pvp

[spiral owl]

As always bag 2 rush 1 till aotn where you bag 3 and it’s easy eos

[hidden robin]

poor the girls

being forced to bear weird name

"oh hi A"

"hello N"

[ocean quest]

N

[clever moon]

Ticonderoga

[glass jolt]

No need to crop the name out. I can tell from a mile away that’s that one waifu person

[winged depot]

swimsuit too

I love this guy

[glass jolt]

Huh. do you think they’re related?

[trail temple]

Not as bad as a certain Washy player who gave his girls a number

[brazen socket]

Dude is on his way to be doxxed

Wait like phone number or smth diff

[trail temple]

Phone numbers aren't 6 digits, so I would assume something different

[winged depot]

is it the cultural numbers?

[brazen socket]

[trail temple]

I believe so

[neon bronze]

gaming

[torpid shuttle]

what're these referencing

[scenic tendon]

Tummy.

Short and cute names ig.

[pseudo copper]

This is saying that Hiryuu is a Jewish Rabbi

[boreal comet]

I see what you did

[bright mauve]

Which weapons does Unzen/Hindenburg gun refer to?,

[boreal comet]

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/thumb/f/ff/33120.png/120px-33120.png

Unzen gun ^

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/thumb/5/5c/43160.png/120px-43160.png

Hindenburg gun ^

[bright mauve]

Thank you!

[sour pawn]

It's funny looking at the damage aginst full german fleets, full of heavy armour and 0 AA

Didnt even get a chance for NJ or BisZ to fire

[torpid shuttle]

these agir fleets are pretty tragic now

[fickle echo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1064232037797597324/1064408519308234792/Screenshot_20230116-0151072.png

[hidden robin]

man, guess I quit sandbagging this season

I keep getting paired with people who made 0 move (even close to ticket reset time)

[ocean quest]

so what

early season barely matters at all

[hidden robin]

huh

so me at 600 pts hitting a guy with 670 pts does not matter?

[ocean quest]

huh?

[scenic tendon]

Truly a KMS fan.

Stop malding or stop pvping, your choice.

[hidden robin]

I really had to google "malding" to see what the heck that is

and bold of you to assume that I was malding

[scenic tendon]

You're a KMS fan, so I just made an assumption.

[hidden robin]

I'm not a fan of any specific faction

I ring girls from all factions anyway

[scenic tendon]

My instinct told me the other way when I looked at your pfp.

Fcking KMS.

[hidden robin]

I don't even pick any faction role

[scenic tendon]

You have Roon's pfp.

That's more than enough.

[hidden robin]

I can change into Brem or Noshiro's pfp if i want to

[finite fog]

If you're malding more than dejwid, it's time to quit pvp

[scenic tendon]

You can't change my mind.

[hidden robin]

I actually did "mald" about pvp but I gave up like...

4 years ago?

[scenic tendon]

4 years...

[hidden robin]

after sending feedback so many times and nothing just changed, so I just accept whatever it is.

[scenic tendon]

Feedback to what?

You have been suggesting pvp ideas to the devs?

[hidden robin]

to complain about how stupid the pvp point system is.

[scenic tendon]

A truly KMS fan.

You guys are insane.

[hidden robin]

whatever, I'll just delude myself and take that as a compliment

[finite fog]

Once you understand the point system

It's like poker

[ocean quest]

higher pace earlier = less bonuses later

[finite fog]

Maximise the chances of you winning

And the rest is luck

[finite fog]

Exactly this

[scenic tendon]

Man, Keasarge has some decent dmg ngl.

[valid oxide]

I overcapped 2

I give up

[hidden robin]

huh, i'll try rushing 1st season next time

[ocean quest]

winable

[scenic tendon]

I overcapped 5 and still reached 2586.

[valid oxide]

I don't have the metal fortitude for that

[finite fog]

I did 4 on 1st week Thursday and reached 2585

[valid oxide]

Overcap of 2 leads to more overcap

I overcap snowball

[scenic tendon]

Keep trying.

Don't give up.

[valid oxide]

I give up

[scenic tendon]

Your love for Kron.

[valid oxide]

I don't even have kron

[stable dawn]

oh you're on amagi

[valid oxide]

This is a persona I have put on to win a contest

[stable dawn]

yeah no just give up lol

[finite fog]

[valid oxide]

I agree I should give up

[scenic tendon]

Shinonome just wants to wall people.

[valid oxide]

Why do I always do PvP in the hope of winning

[scenic tendon]

Just keep climbing

[hidden robin]

should at least try to get the merits

[valid oxide]

My defence fleet is a shitty with just all META ships

I think one of them is fortuneM

[stable dawn]

[scenic tendon]

Atleast you can sleep.

[valid oxide]

My PvP schedule lets me sleep

But I overcapped because I was talking to my dad

[finite fog]

Dad>pvp

[valid oxide]

Agreed

[stable dawn]

wtf you have a pvp schedule

[valid oxide]

Rush before sleep

Or was it rush before reset

I can't remember

Oh wait it was rush second set iirc

Rush second set lets me sleep

[hidden robin]

i rush when i'm sure that i won't be able to open the game in like 12 hours

[boreal comet]

KMS ships when they get hit by torpedos

(they were crits)

[pseudo copper]

Guys, why is Kent so op for pvp?

[ocean quest]

[redacted]

🕵️

[lusty hill]

Kent looks broken

[trail temple]

See through blouse

[pseudo copper]

Does this mean PoW with swimsuit is best bb in game?

[trail temple]

Ofc, she buffs NJ

[pseudo copper]

Does this mean new meta is PoW, Kearsarge, NJ?

[trail temple]

[lusty hill]

seems solid since she has preload too

she buff ancho and juneau top tier pvp ship

[pseudo copper]

When on docs?

[lusty hill]

and when they released laffey II wales will be the main pvp ship

[late heath]

Wait til UR Kashino MK 2

[trail temple]

While we are confident in PoW being t0, we still need to put her through extensive testing to ensure our preliminary results are not erroneous

[neon bronze]

real

[brazen socket]

In terms of PVP would you guys say Kearsarge is just a direct upgrade to Vanny?

She just has higher damage, almost the same damage increase for fleet as her and airstrike to get rid of conceal

Kinda feel like she makes vanguard in the shadow of her for players who havent reached pr6 yet

[neon bronze]

who is kearsarge

[serene epoch]

She is slow tho, so you need to drop radar for other bbs so they can fire after kear applies buff
And that can end with your bb's dead before shot

[pseudo copper]

Kearsarge buff for BB is from aircraft

It is CV that need shells to hit prior

[serene epoch]

Yes, but she launches her airstrike too late for baff, no?

[scenic tendon]

[serene epoch]

Like yes?

[scenic tendon]

why?

lel

[serene epoch]

Why you do not have radar on NJ then?

[boreal comet]

With 30% relaod buff with EU plane?

[scenic tendon]

8% buff from Kearsarge's airstrike.

[boreal comet]

If not then it's like 15s

[serene epoch]

Yes, that's exactly what I said

[boreal comet]

[scenic tendon]

Kear's airstrike > Kear's shell > NJ's shell (+8% buff) > Hiryuu's airstrike.

But the real problem with Kenny is...

[boreal comet]

1tonight kenny supremacy

[scenic tendon]

You are gonna have not a good time with Anchorage.

[serene epoch]

It's 16 even with 200 aff

[boreal comet]

:god:

[scenic tendon]

Sometimes the battle just comes to Anchorage and Hiryuu 's fight.

Lel.

[serene epoch]

And plane must hit to apply buff, so add like 1-1.5 seconds to this

[boreal comet]

I should +13 flapjack

[scenic tendon]

Just remove your NJ's radar if you want the buff.

Plapplap is kinda slow in both reload and speed.

But I guess it's kinda okay to use?

[serene epoch]

Flap even slower

Also flight speed is lower

[scenic tendon]

From my personal experience, I think white shell is a good choice to replace radar.

[boreal comet]

I'd just ignore the BB buff

[scenic tendon]

I saw my NJ and Keasarge sunk a Musashi in 4 shells.

[boreal comet]

Meanwhile Jintsuu buffed Shima does it in 2 torps

[scenic tendon]

Everyone has the same thing.

You have to make something different.

[pseudo copper]

Enough to apply it partially middle of it

Fight will be over regardless anyways

[grim solar]

[serene epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/446389112056971276.webp?size=48&name=KannaConfused&quality=lossless

Chill out

It's more than week until aotn

Where your rank matter

[lime folio]

tigercat over flapjack on kears?

[scenic tendon]

fuck your pfp.

I mean profile banner.

[lime folio]

Yea I do it with Agir too

but jks aside

i was just about to +13 either for pvp so i wanted to know why u chose that over the other i thought flapjack had better aa

[scenic tendon]

I want Keasarge's salvos to have her own buff from aircraft.

So I choose faster and quicker planes.

[lime folio]

Aight

Tigercat it is

[scenic tendon]

Don't copy my white shell NJ.

Also that comp (with Juneau) is designed to counter only Hymen.

[lime folio]

uuuuuuuuuuh I had Musashi on

I miss having the 3 babes on, I hate having to use Hiryuu

[lime folio]

Why did u choose NJ over Musa btw

[scenic tendon]

NJ triggers Keasarge's ARA skill.

ARA buffs Hiryuu.

[lime folio]

And I guess as u said it beats hymen

[scenic tendon]

It does beat Hymen as you should almost win every Hiryuu's duel aganist Hymen.

[lime folio]

hows ur matchuip with MKH

[scenic tendon]

Well-rounded comp.

Who knows? My server doesn't have good fleets.

[neon bronze]

tigercat
if u wanna use flapjack. At least use avgas

[scenic tendon]

Just slap 6 meta ships and remember to look at the screen.

[neon bronze]

quyet special uses hvar and i don't see any benefit for focus firing frontline when they miss anyways

[lime folio]

I mean yea thats what I do

im not a stats guy i just slap meta shit (preferably waifus) and follow whats the meta thing to put

[scenic tendon]

Just rush and sleep.

Ez aotn.

[lime folio]

been playing since day 1 with many top 10s and i still dont know what half the shit I got do

[scenic tendon]

You eos'd?

[lime folio]

No

never quit

copied ur setup

but im keeping mommy musa instead of nj

vanguard i switch depending on whether its fortune harbin or ancho

u like suisei kai on hiryu?

[scenic tendon]

MK Hero is much more well-rounded in my opinion.

[scenic tendon]

That was some of my experiments.

[lime folio]

[scenic tendon]

Suisei on Hiryuu as Tenrai does almost nothing.

[lime folio]

ye its slower

[scenic tendon]

Who knows

It does make sense tho.

[ocean quest]

[lime folio]

[scenic tendon]

🐒

[lime folio]

[torpid shuttle]

jintsuu's aimed barrage is surprisingly high damage

[ocean quest]

yeah basically kills if connects

[torpid shuttle]

torp meta sucks

my opponent and I literally traded kearsarges off preloads

[fickle echo]

4d chess

[neon bronze]

guys vote shimakaze

[torpid shuttle]

im voting uvh

because of ohisashisaburi

the current rankings show a milf bias

and then there's shima

[trail temple]

Avrora player?

[brazen socket]

So im about to mirror match mk hero with anti torp is there any other vanguard/comp I should use so I dont got to reset a hundred times

[torpid shuttle]

somehow doubletorp

[brazen socket]

... I forgot to get a third black torp uhh ill just pray

yay

[torpid shuttle]

what vang

[brazen socket]

both of us were using anti torp

it was a 1:1 mirror match

[torpid shuttle]

gear dif

[brazen socket]

probably, on my 3rd reset I won the vanguard fight

[torpid shuttle]

reminded me that asw torps are kinda bedge

ill just do goldburn toolbox IX on fortmet

[brazen socket]

did u not get shinobi attire?

[torpid shuttle]

what does it do

i have it

[brazen socket]

same stats as celest body but instead of turning u muse it turns u senran

[torpid shuttle]

does that matter

[brazen socket]

well, a little hp minmax doesnt hurt

but yeah it pretty much makes a lil difference at best

maybe one day we'll get an hp aux thats as good as goldburn

[torpid shuttle]

ill just trust in toolbox proc

effectively 527 hp on tb

[brazen socket]

I'm a goldburn lover can we get anotha one

[serene epoch]

I dropped all black torps
It feels like homing make it worst somehow
Torps often disappear not reachin backline of half aim on vanguard and hit bottom/top of screen etc

Also fortme very likely remove slow mag torps

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1088272215017001011.webp?size=48&name=DeadSex&quality=lossless

[torpid shuttle]

it is true that

mag torps only home once

so vanguard fucks them alot

[brazen socket]

yeah, thats why I kinda hate the current meta

its too rng

and even slows down normal games too

its 50/50 whether or not the AI is stupid and aims the torpedos wherever or they do an immaculate shot and nuke a backline

[serene epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/839635015633076224.gif?size=48&name=BuckyPrideAnim&quality=lossless

JintME

[torpid shuttle]

no +13 quad

[serene epoch]

no plates

[brazen socket]

well go get them

do illegal things if you have to

[torpid shuttle]

rn i

am +13ing a wyvern

[brazen socket]

I wish I had a stack of quads, my jintsuu would be winning more vanguard fights

[brazen socket]

Be not afraid, that wyvern will last you since hiryuu is perma meta

[torpid shuttle]

should be able to protocore one soon

[brazen socket]

[torpid shuttle]

im at 46/50 and 4900 protocore so im set

[brazen socket]

... unless they release a ur uss cv and we get another stupid good ur plane

bearcat perhaps

[torpid shuttle]

do people use tenrai hiryuu or skyraider hiryuu

[brazen socket]

the power of a rocket plane with the aa of a flapjack

[torpid shuttle]

no more gacha UR backliners pls

more vang instead

[serene epoch]

Yeah yeah, right after I complete +13 another 457

[brazen socket]

tenrai since hiryuu would be most likely hitting backline by the time she gets her strike, plus its faster than skyraider

[trail temple]

Suisei for earlier launch

[finite fog]

holy shit i love this

[serene epoch]

Rusher with meta fleet somehow

[brazen socket]

I would be a rusher if it werent for the fact I overcapped 10

I forgot to download files in home on my phone bc this game constantly does random updates

[torpid shuttle]

im a rusher with meta fleet

[brazen socket]

I only do a meta fleet on defense to wall and be annoying

[serene epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/851827902979112971.webp?size=48&name=gigachad&quality=lossless

[torpid shuttle]

i do it for flexing my meta fleet

[brazen socket]

I got someone mad at me in general all because I said I wanted to be annoying in pvp and they were going through gymnastics trying to justify how im so wrong for it

[torpid shuttle]

sounds like skill issue

[serene epoch]

God bless rushers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1099450838948266117.webp?size=48&name=ranchBlessex&quality=lossless

[brazen socket]

I get the worst refresh rng

I shouldnt greed

smh I refreshed, got a 1442 from a 1450
next refreshes brought me to 1500+

[serene epoch]

Your rank prob droped because ppl moves

Relog

[ocean quest]

late season experience first week

impressive

[torpid shuttle]

maybe i should just use anchorage, i actually had to reset once

[lusty hill]

Plymouth

[ocean quest]

huh

[torpid shuttle]

i feel scammed

[ocean quest]

that must've been the lowest roll possible

[pseudo copper]

Or just skill issue

[torpid shuttle]

preloads doing zero dmg and vang full dying to zwei

is my skill issue

[scenic tendon]

skill issue

[lusty hill]

Are you using yakuza?

[torpid shuttle]

mkhero antitorp

i might try harbin again

[ocean quest]

[scenic tendon]

Just copy the comp which almost beaten you.

Then repeat.

[ocean quest]

final cycle

[lusty hill]

then everyone will end up copying reiver and himmel

[scenic tendon]

Till someone beats them

[stable dawn]

unless you're on washy

then they'll copy Aoste

[ocean quest]

his fleet beats anyone?

[stable dawn]

idk have you fought him?

[valid oxide]

Is aoste still on that weird ancho shima Aya fleet

[pseudo copper]

Is Aoste still struggling on harby?

[valid oxide]

Even I beat Harvey this month

Harby

[trail temple]

I think Serenity is obsessed with NU

[neon bronze]

do a training arc

Trust

[scenic tendon]

training with better players

[stable dawn]

what's NU?

[neon bronze]

NUr nuts

[lusty hill]

what's NU?

[brazen socket]

New Union

[lusty hill]

New Unicorn

[boreal comet]

New Yunyun

[scenic tendon]

Nice underwear.

[ocean quest]

yes!

[torpid shuttle]

yea even blacktorpless IXes feel better than ASW torps

[torpid shuttle]

i got 3 from a single run and none from the rest

[neon bronze]

it's like that sometimes Lol

[lusty hill]

you have to act like you don't want it and the game will give you drops

[winged depot]

Be tsundere to the gear, you heard it hear first.

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tsundere-pout-petty-upset-gif-8657468

[late heath]

If you buy all the Kashino outfit, marry her, and set her as secretary, your luck will increase

[pseudo copper]

It's not just luck

[steel coral]

azur lane's konami code

[scenic tendon]

Azur Lane is a p2w gae.

[pseudo copper]

Collab ships so op

[stable dawn]

yeah especially klaudia because she can heal

healing is OP in pee vee pee

[brazen socket]

does that mean purple heart gud

if I can have a battle last 150 seconds that would mean purple heart meta

[serene epoch]

Bre||a||st new pee vs pee meta?

[pseudo copper]

According to #al-general yes

[boreal comet]

I remember telling a guy that Jintsuu META works usually better than the previous ancho stalls now in #al-general and got called out because some people there believed otherwise

[pseudo copper]

You deserve to be called out

Captain is highest rank bro

If it beats everything in captain must mean is best

Also post link

[tacit ferry]

💀💀

[boreal comet]

Firi eos'd last season with stall and stepmom

[pseudo copper]

I don't recall seeing him on last season eos

Also not really hard

I nearly eosed despite overcap with Yakuza and old vg

Just that I struggled when facing new meta

Had to reset like 4 times

[neon bronze]

firi was like 2560~

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1161470397926092926.webp?size=48&name=shiSleep&quality=lossless

[brazen socket]

Can you link or show

I wanna see their takes

[floral wave]

are you sure you want to see gen chat takes

[whole salmon]

Firi did decent but only 27th

[brazen socket]

its entertaining
its like seeing a bunch of little labrats

its also seeing little quyets too

[whole salmon]

CN is silent, seemingly given up on trying to find counters

And tbh, I agree

3 more weeks and new UR is out

[sudden spoke]

does he know?

[whole salmon]

Might as well wait until then, no point trying to come up with half ass counters

[brazen socket]

its hard to fight against the sheer overwhelming power of torpedos

You either die to them or you live to them

the only savior we have is if we got a better fortune meta or a ship that spawns torp shields for everyone at start

[brazen socket]

Know what?

that general is stupid at gameplay takes?

[sudden spoke]

Hm? Oh don't mind me. You guys keep doing your thing

[floral wave]

fortune is the issue

[whole salmon]

Most counters on CN side is just close calls Hiryuu duels

[winged depot]

hey mod

[whole salmon]

Which none of us would take

[boreal comet]

New discord update hurts my head

[floral wave]

accessing pins on mobile now smh

[brazen socket]

Oh right a better fortune meta would only make things worse

[brazen socket]

everything got moved to the magnifying glass

[whole salmon]

It is mainly Fortune Meta is indeed a solution to torp but also kinda a half ass solution

It forces both sides to run Fortune and cope for RNG fest

[boreal comet]

Ye

[floral wave]

and an issue at the same time

[boreal comet]

Half of the time fort doesn't seem to work

[brazen socket]

fort is decent but also not a full on counter since she isnt going to work 100% of the time

[whole salmon]

Most of us don’t usually run Fortune def or atk but Fortune is always there to be swapped in when necessary

[neon bronze]

yea, she doesn't do sweeping chores sometimes

[whole salmon]

Ofc some of us just doesn’t care and just keep Fortune as main stay anyways

[brazen socket]

thats why sometimes you just gotta pray and reset with anti torp / triple torp
the only way to win is reset
torp meta is beatable but it walls too hard for bagging

[floral wave]

resetting

[brazen socket]

I like keeping fort in my def and atk, keeps things consistent since shima is just running everywhere in my server

[floral wave]

question, how often does your musashi die to preload on attack?

assuming fort didnt do her shit

[brazen socket]

I cant say much since i've only had a grand total of 3 matches against torp meta comps

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-meme-aggression-confusion-gif-22568593

[brazen socket]

@boreal comet smh still not showing

I need my entertainment

[boreal comet]

Blame new discord ui

[floral wave]

search jintsuu in gen chat

[brazen socket]

everything is on the magnifying glass

hold awn

[floral wave]

theres no way jintsuu gets mentioned often

so that should do

[boreal comet]

#pvp message I can't seem to find the actual conversation but he did come here to confirm what I said

[brazen socket]

Ahh

[void mason]

i have 5 kashino all secretary i have all her skins i have her secret 2 are married i also have a kashino body pillow i also have a life size cardboard cut out of kashino i also have 6 1:4 cardboard cut out of kashino and also a kashino key chain and i can garantuee you it works

[steel coral]

But do you have the mousepad

[torpid shuttle]

going above 5 attempts left literally gives me anxiety about overcapping

[ocean quest]

just set an alarm

[stable dawn]

you eventually get used to it

[ocean quest]

the pvp pipeline

[finite fog]

You'll probably overcap with the alarm for the first few attempts

[late heath]

Believe in the over cap who believe in you

[brazen socket]

maybe the true eos is the friends we made along the way

[scenic tendon]

You haven't eos'd before, have you?

[scenic tendon]

[pseudo copper]

True eos is end of service

[neon bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1176831939752251483.webp?size=48&name=sexSob&quality=lossless

where my pvps

[stable dawn]

taking a break

[boreal comet]

breaking a take

[torpid shuttle]

there are too many meta defense fleets

why i have to keep looking at screen

no fucking way

i had to reset hiryuu vs enty

?????????????????????

maybe i miscounted hiryuu final countdown timer

but fk this

[fickle echo]

[lusty hill]

sounds like something I would say lol

[torpid shuttle]

i dont follow u

antitorp weakness is weird

[lusty hill]

I have skill issue and sometimes stalled to non meta fleet

[fickle echo]

Serenity is self aware

[stable dawn]

the issue is anti-torp is good enough that you often just run it for everything
but Fortune META isn't good enough to consistently counter torps 100% of the time (it's like 70% at best), which makes Juneau unusable.

so we're in this wacky meta where it's aggro because stall can't be used
but it's also not aggro because you can't use Harbin into anti-torp

[torpid shuttle]

if im 1485 0/10

what are baggers at

rn

[stable dawn]

I should be 1473 5/10 when I finish

[torpid shuttle]

i see

[fickle echo]

Just play on

[stable dawn]

I missed JintM, it's over for me

[late heath]

She’ll come into that dossier thing eventually

[torpid shuttle]

like a year from now

[stable dawn]

by then she might already be out of the meta

[late heath]

Run Kashino instead, always meta

[torpid shuttle]

gigajuiced fortmeta coming in march UR

[stable dawn]

wish granted but she's only good against Fortune META

[fickle echo]

By then Lil E will have more pvpers

[stable dawn]

and dies to Ancho

creating rock paper scissors 2

[late heath]

Best rock paper scissor is enterprise meta

[stable dawn]

enterprise META only has 1 skill
it simply changes the year to 2018

[ocean quest]

i choose scissor

[stable dawn]

rock always wins

🪨

[ocean quest]

rock vs c-

[fickle echo]

Wait until they announce Laffey II this month and the meta becomes her equipped with Manjuu

[stable dawn]

would that even make her meta?

if she's slower than shima it'd still be better to run current anti-torp

[fickle echo]

DD gun damage

[ocean quest]

did you overcap

[torpid shuttle]

no, im rank 1

if i overcap then im usually far away

[ocean quest]

hmmmm

[torpid shuttle]

u guys just bag a ton

[ocean quest]

[stable dawn]

[ocean quest]

the altered reality

[lusty hill]

manjuu on laffey II will make her stay alive for 60s

[stable dawn]

laffey vs laffey duels

[ocean quest]

what if sub 2580 rank 1 on washy @stable dawn

[stable dawn]

possible if we have an early maint next week

[lusty hill]

lol

[stable dawn]

[ocean quest]

server nuke

[stable dawn]

2569 R1

[ocean quest]

competing with lil e soon

[stable dawn]

[fickle echo]

R1 score on LE can still get EoS on Washi

[stable dawn]

legit feels like new meta has lowered washy's mover scores by 20 points

wouldn't be surprised to see <2500 R100 eos

[ocean quest]

new strats: meme fleets to inflate scores

[stable dawn]

nah, washy is too toxic for that

for every meme fleet we add, someone else will try to be Amatir

[ocean quest]

give me infinite plates

[fickle echo]

Does people there really wait at 6/10 just to be toxic?

[stable dawn]

y e s

[ocean quest]

4/10 fake pace

[fickle echo]

Are you one of those people?

[stable dawn]

no, I finish at 3-4m

[torpid shuttle]

i havent eaten any minuses either

[stable dawn]

(though sometimes I fight too many meta fleets in a row and finish around 2m)

[trail temple]

ALM was 2503 at r97-98

[stable dawn]

oh no it's actually happening

[trail temple]

He's not far off having absolutely no bonuses

[stable dawn]

[mint mural]

ancho is a better tank than agir for pvp right, especially with the eu damage control aux

[serene epoch]

Well, she was 2 months ago

Now they both succ

But agir succ harder

[stable dawn]

there are no tanks in pvp now

tank meta is dead

[lusty hill]

wait till they release anchorage but with slash instead of smoke

[neon bronze]

unfortunately no one running manjuu ancho atm

[mint mural]

lol alright

[trail temple]

To be frank, there's still a lot of Anchorage in people's def fleets. They're just not as effective as before

Since the current meta destroys tanky vanguards

[lusty hill]

I still get stalled by anchorage

[stable dawn]

[tacit owl]

[brazen socket]

When ancho is on the enemy team one of two things happen to me
I explode her with torps
Or
I explode the backline with torps

[torpid shuttle]

i'll just start eating minuses

people's scores are getting too low

i dont need to deal with this

[finite fog]

[ocean quest]

[stable dawn]

normal washy things

[neon bronze]

chat is pearl bad on fortune meta

[pseudo copper]

You should use pearl on Hiryuu to heal enemy backline

[neon bronze]

how the hell did i not think of that

[lusty hill]

healing enemy meta

[torpid shuttle]

is there a maximum minus

[pseudo copper]

Lowest seen is Lil E exclusive and p sure you can't roll that anymore

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1050731467585622067/1099593407581671444/image.png?ex=6587d9a9&is=657564a9&hm=1714b5acdb3a1a578b0b2b2d59660f8e48e992d7e0f78b63c458d4cc61f6bbb5&

Credit to NArd

[torpid shuttle]

that looks like there's no cap wtf?

imagine getting negative points for winning

[steel coral]

get a server with 2 people

[brazen socket]

EN community famous for negative points because everybody sandbags and then forgets

We are never escaping 2600 hell

[stable dawn]

ded gaem mode

[pseudo copper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/772449785680363520/953120877954875412/unknown.png?ex=658a3d7d&is=6577c87d&hm=fedca45a5bf7b01d8d9e9ccae4887183e2a9e6bbb44cff02d5d4cd88fc3ef509&

[brazen socket]

LMAO IS POSITIVE NEGATIVE ACTUALLY REAL

The fuck it doing out here outside of pre calculus bruh

[pseudo copper]

If you do an exercise and only claim it after reset you get shown - as it calculates diff between new score and old score

So doing an exercise at 2610 and only claiming after reset would show +-2600

[trail temple]

We got 2600 quite often this year

More than last year I believe, can't confirm without Mutsuki Nework

[steel coral]

found the 2s

[neon bronze]

Real

[torpid shuttle]

pls change points so that

the 4 cards are +1 +0 -1 -2

or something

[trail temple]

Or better yet

You always have at least 1 opponent higher ranked than you on your list (unless you're r1)

[lusty hill]

how is it possible to get +2

the lowest one I've ever got is +7 and I was rushing

is this the secret slingshot tech

[pseudo copper]

It's called playing on Lil E

[trail temple]

[trail temple]

With the way the meta is going, we may see some more scores under base

[torpid shuttle]

nice names

so is tripletorp always better against stall than antitorp

i also read here that fortmet was good into only shima

[serene epoch]

Most of us are too lazy to actually swap fortme for harbin

So antitorp vs everything it is

[neon bronze]

tripletorp < antitorp < ancho jintM doubletorp < triple torp

all 3 current frontline metas >>> stall comps

[torpid shuttle]

im getting tilted from needing to reset vs stall

[neon bronze]

and yea, cba using harbin if she just crashes against fortM. Better off using FortM against mirror; which is starting to get common nowadays

[torpid shuttle]

I have several things +13 as well

[neon bronze]

show gears

[torpid shuttle]

it's tenrai hiryuu, else pretty meta

[serene epoch]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1158760245582106664.png?size=160&name=FrierenSkillIssue

[brazen socket]

How are you losing to stall I never faced any issues vs it

I guess we all need a lil harbin in our lives

[torpid shuttle]

it's like every now and then

every several stalls i eye it being too close

[brazen socket]

I wish I had more plates

I been focusing too much on PVE stuff

[stable dawn]

what's your exact gear setup

I've been running Monkey Anti-Torp all season and my only real problem is fighting mirror matches against other Monkey fleets lol

[torpid shuttle]

something like this

[stable dawn]

oh

[torpid shuttle]

idr aa gun on fortmet

[stable dawn]

no oaths?

[finite fog]

120 frontline

[stable dawn]

I'd definitely try to +13 manjuu, beaver, and pearl

[torpid shuttle]

i have 125 frontline

[finite fog]

oh ok

[torpid shuttle]

this was gear so i stopped changing stuff

i have +13 pearl, could do beaver

[stable dawn]

yeah, beaver is also useful in pve so might as well

[brazen socket]

You havent +13'd your beaver?

Wait arent you supposed to take out kears radar so she isnt cucking sashi

[torpid shuttle]

musa is fast enough

[stable dawn]

what

[torpid shuttle]

musa is literally two seconds faster

[stable dawn]

did you actually fall for 1tonight's troll fleet

[brazen socket]

...

Um

I didnt actually use that tech

Just thought abt it

[serene epoch]

it is more than 2 seconds how exactly she could do it

[stable dawn]

she cucks Musashi if Musashi is also using 457

[brazen socket]

Wait, how much does kear cut off flapjack again with skill?

[serene epoch]

[torpid shuttle]

30%

[serene epoch]

rainbow = good

[brazen socket]

I use tiger > flap because no +13 flap but I think tiger might be better with musa, but I do use 410 musa > 356

[torpid shuttle]

just musa

[stable dawn]

musashi is going to fire long before kear's planes reach the enemy backline

since the fleet builder doesn't account for HPFCR 15% reduction skill

[brazen socket]

Even with tiger?

[stable dawn]

even with pirate squad

[torpid shuttle]

tiger is still a 20s plane lol

[brazen socket]

Man

I swear I remember the cut off for kears plane being higher

[stable dawn]

you might be confusing it with NJ's firing time with 457

[brazen socket]

Or I gaslighted myself into thinking it was 50

[stable dawn]

Musashi is so fast it literally does not matter

you will not fire before her

[torpid shuttle]

oop im using WNT atm

are yall fans or not of wnt rn

[stable dawn]

wnt flag on attack?

[brazen socket]

So musashi just never benefits from kear? Sadge

[finite fog]

wnt off flag

[brazen socket]

I dont even have WNT in my inventory to begin with

I think I should though, I got the packs anyways

[stable dawn]

did you accidentally delete it

[brazen socket]

No I just never bothered to mlb the ships

[finite fog]

you can delete it

[brazen socket]

So I just never claimed it

[serene epoch]

wnt on hiryuu, but she is off-flag on attack and flag on def.

[stable dawn]

this is the way

[torpid shuttle]

ok im going on with this

[brazen socket]

Is medal okay to use on hiryuu or am I just better off with feather

[stable dawn]

medal works fine too, honestly I don't even use feather these days due to WNT

[torpid shuttle]

+13s are accurate

[brazen socket]

You should try to get another plygun to slap on jintsuu to win vanguard fight slightly more

[torpid shuttle]

im at 49/50 rn

[brazen socket]

It would be nice to own multiple plyguns now that I think abt it

[stable dawn]

I have 3 but I want 12

[torpid shuttle]

i have 1.98 but i want a ton

[brazen socket]

Plygun is next on my bucket list to own multiples of

More than tenrai actually

[torpid shuttle]

just gonna protocore another one

[stable dawn]

they'll add it to the proto shop soon (tm)

[brazen socket]

We just gotta hold on for 2 more months

[stable dawn]

inb4 next UR event gives us a CL gun that power creeps plygun

[brazen socket]

Inb4 80 fp

[torpid shuttle]

i cant tell if top or flag takes more dmg

for where to plant hiryuu

[stable dawn]

probably top since flag is more likely to get torps slashed due to Fortune META

[torpid shuttle]

hmm

[brazen socket]

Even without fortM I noticed the AI is allergic from firing torpedos towards the middle

They always go for top or bottom

[torpid shuttle]

i noticed that on atk but dont remember defense fleets

[brazen socket]

Defense fleets are a bit more direct in the middle but sometimes the issue is they go back a little too much that the torpedos disappear before they can hit backline

But they're kinda more likely to hit it directly too, eugh too much snipes that I just had to raise fortM immediately

[torpid shuttle]

do WNTs stack

the "if multiple gear of this type are equipped" means to me the different exercise gear on a single ship

[lusty hill]

It doesn't stack

[torpid shuttle]

so what gear takes prio if

enemy is also using an exercise aux

and mine is also procced

[ocean quest]

poland

[lusty hill]

just use your own if you really need the buff

tho some people depend on the opponent fleet to use the gear

[torpid shuttle]

but im asking about the mechanics

[neon bronze]

I distinctly remember fleets with wnt flag proc on either side, more likely on enemy side

and if frontier + wnt, both proc

[torpid shuttle]

so double wnt only proc one

[neon bronze]

Yes

[hollow walrus]

iirc, WNT shows up as proc on enemy side if you both have WNT

[torpid shuttle]

im at 3/10 and still cant dodge minuses 😭

[lusty hill]

is Louisville good for pvp?

[pseudo copper]

She's CA so must be good tank for pvp

[lusty hill]

anchorage killer

[boreal comet]

Aoba better

[stable dawn]

extended maint is best tank

[neon bronze]

imagine being so good you make pvpers lose 5 attempts

[pseudo copper]

Veston would've won season then

He hadn't lost 5

[neon bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/966055596187091074.webp?size=48&name=Basado&quality=lossless

[fickle echo]

Just don't be Beth

[boreal comet]

I'll be 1tonight

[torpid shuttle]

how many bonuses are yall able to get towards end of season lately

per set

[ocean quest]

+1/0 usually

[winged depot]

if its the last day, its pretty hard to get a bonus on set 1 and 2

[ocean quest]

a looot of people cant even be a bonus anymore

[winged depot]

the hard part is if its during 2nd week wed - friday 1st set depending on server

[stable dawn]

+0

-1 if unlucky

[ocean quest]

stay that way

2 people dead last set

im kidding

[neon bronze]

sunday? +1 -1/2 on long set and set 2

[ocean quest]

it would be sad if you did

[neon bronze]

normally i'd just refresh the -1s off set 1 and 2 on2nd week sunday but last season i got fucked w/ 3 refs left

[ocean quest]

nah sunday you save all for eos

[neon bronze]

my Eos usually managable with 3 refreshes at most

before jintsuu meta

[winged depot]

if you get a +1 just eat the +9

5 refreshes on eos is better

[ocean quest]

yeah eos can have you roll 8s

toward the end

[neon bronze]

i'll try that this season

[torpid shuttle]

i mean second week after new torp meta

[stable dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/only-game-heff-be-mad-gif-5038541

[late heath]

I’m already eating +9 on Thursday

[neon bronze]

chat are guam and laffey II meta

ggood in pvp?

[lusty hill]

Laffey II is an allen class DD which mean she's going to have a broken AA which mean she will counter yakuza

[stable dawn]

yakuza finally dead

[finite fog]

f

[shell raft]

Anchorage, Unzen, Guam triple tank meta

[stable dawn]

[floral wave]

unzen tank

[torpid shuttle]

let laffey 2 be good enough to replace hamman2 in w15 pls

[scenic tendon]

Unzen tank

[ocean quest]

shes UR shes surely a good tank

[boreal comet]

None can beat a lvl1 Mutsuki

[serene epoch]

AL is not Skyrim — you can kill child here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1104044376935637062.gif?size=48&name=mutsukiSnap&quality=lossless

[pseudo copper]

You can mod Skyrim to do that

[boreal comet]

Anti torp failing against torp for the 792nd time (i counted)

[serene epoch]

Somehow flexing vs unothed fleet

[boreal comet]

Fortune bad

[stable dawn]

how many tries

[boreal comet]

1

[stable dawn]

guess you heard it here folks

Fortune is bad

[ocean quest]

based....

[stable dawn]

We will be removing her from the sheet with Muschorage and Shinanomakaze

[serene epoch]

lmao @random anchor

[torpid shuttle]

im 2175 with 2/10 rn

what's other's

[serene epoch]

2141
10/10

[ocean quest]

2126 10/10

sad

[torpid shuttle]

fortmeta just wiped like 30 torps vs triple torp

pretty good

torps

[lusty hill]

Kearsarge

[stable dawn]

kear and fortune are bad according to popular opinion

[brazen socket]

aww shucks! time to retire both

[ocean quest]

[pseudo copper]

I wish, damn Manjuu made it impossible

[lusty hill]

There's no direct counter for fortune meta right?

Only rng

[torpid shuttle]

if u believe rock paper scissors, then double torp

[torpid shuttle]

i think scrubadumb uses kenny antitorp

idr now

[random anchor]

even with my scuffed pvp team without UR's i was able to get it again this season, idc about the last placements as long i get this is enough

[stable dawn]

continue rushing for free merit

[random anchor]

nah this will held till its 9/10

[stable dawn]

[random anchor]

Also if u on lex and got me on your list, im only attacking again right before 9/10 turns into 14/10

[fickle echo]

14/10

[scenic tendon]

Bro is flexing.

[torpid shuttle]

Ill keep rushing for bongo

and dejeid i guess

[ocean quest]

[pseudo copper]

What about me?

[serene epoch]

If your only goal is merits you 100% should have rush it to 0/10 while aotn to get extra 10 merits per win

[ivory kiln]

this works right?
im too lazy to look at my screen so i need every advantage
luckily none of these ships actually matter for current meta
table went to biz already so no table for sashi

have 125 fortmeta as well but i feel like she does nothing since attack side is too short

[brazen socket]

If you want to look at screen less harbin > ancho

[ivory kiln]

i fought like 3 fortmeta last reset and it wasnt fun

anyway harb

[pseudo copper]

Just mirror

[ivory kiln]

switching ships take too long

[pseudo copper]

Just use Fortune meta for good

[neon bronze]

Boiler instead of torp bulge on Ancho - a bit more speed might run u into some torps but it's the difference between getting hit by bb salvos or dodging them
Blue torps on Ancho, helps against BB salvos and her survivability in general
Tigercat on Kearsarge
UR AAs if you can afford them, but that AA config is ok as is

[neon bronze]

funnily enough, changing AA gun to either STAAG or UR AA and Wirbel Luft to Goldburn is good loadout for Fortune META already

[scenic tendon]

Just fight when you can look at the screen.

I don't look at the screen.

[torpid shuttle]

[ocean quest]

avg jintsuum fight

[brazen socket]

Lowest average jintsuum damage

god what were the devs thinking when making her

lmao

[steel coral]

assuming the devs even remember pvp exists

[stable dawn]

toxic meta

[brazen socket]

I finally got my third black torp

I am finally free

[neon bronze]

haven't farmed for dress yet

and a 4th

ok. doing just that after the event

[torpid shuttle]

i'd estimate 80 tickets to a black torp at 2x cards

[brazen socket]

I took about 60?

But thats only with 2 black toeps

Torps*

I already got 1 with AN rerun

[torpid shuttle]

so far i've spent 180 runs for two black torps i guess

60 tickets + 1 month of tickets

[pseudo copper]

Have you tried getting better luck?

Does help I promise

[torpid shuttle]

im more interested in drop rates tbh

no one's tested it but WA is super easily testable

[pseudo copper]

People play AL?

Issue is that no one wants to bother testing, but p sure CN did test

[ocean quest]

i think it took me around 230 for 3 copies

it varies a lot

[late heath]

Im too lazy to come up with another comp after mafia

[torpid shuttle]

it's a little less testing and more just

recording how many tickets you used for 3 black torps

literally just start date and end date

[ocean quest]

its prob between 4-5 tickets for 1 print

[spiral owl]

Average should be around 60 runs with 2X buff for one blacktorp iirc

[buoyant parrot]

I feel the suffering is strong in this channel

[half silo]

That‘s just your imagination

[torpid shuttle]

my average is 80 runs a black torp

[finite fog]

I got no prints for the first 30 boosted runs

And now I get 1 per 4 without 2x

[pseudo copper]

Weak

[finite fog]

[vale minnow]

Im in PST time zone

what times does exercises chargews add

[torpid shuttle]

UTC-7 0:00, 12:00, 18:00

[vale minnow]

thanks

time to say goodbye to finals

[torpid shuttle]

NOPLS

[vale minnow]

lol jk, no finals no games

[stable dawn]

just take your finals while pvping

[vale minnow]

if im about an hour late to each recharge, but still complete all, would i be still top 10

[pseudo copper]

We had a person do pvp during an exam, so just follow his example

[torpid shuttle]

if you have 100% winrate 100% playrate, then you always aotn
especially current meta

i got aotn down 7 exercises last season

[vale minnow]

server?

[torpid shuttle]

washy

[vale minnow]

ah

i js run 3 bb

[torpid shuttle]

is strong but isnt the meta

[vale minnow]

shima and unzen cuz op torp

[torpid shuttle]

unzen is strong but isnt the meta

[vale minnow]

whats meta?

[torpid shuttle]

in pins

[vale minnow]

is UR torp worth? for shima

[stable dawn]

pvp gearing is quite different from pve

[torpid shuttle]

equips are also in pins

in the one pvp guide

it has tabs

[stable dawn]

we prepped the sheet to answer most of these common questions lol

[torpid shuttle]

teach sheet literacy too

[lusty hill]

make the sheet into video and post in on youtube

[stable dawn]

I can't teach you how to read

[steel coral]

teach og to so he can make the vid

[stable dawn]

he's too busy grinding Captain rank

[vale minnow]

@torpid shuttle so as long as i have 100% wr and playrate, no matter the time, I can get AOTN right?

nice

[finite fog]

as long as you're over 2200 points

[vale minnow]

and certain rank

[finite fog]

10

[vale minnow]

yup

[finite fog]

and remember to keep playing past that to help out your fellow server members

[torpid shuttle]

that's the only reason why im still playing

[vale minnow]

I have none of the pvp meta ships

like not a complete set

and no gear as well, only have tenrai, no wyvern and wont get wyvern in a while

[torpid shuttle]

there are lower tiers and lower tier gear

[vale minnow]

my pst time schedule is screwing me ovber

[scenic tendon]

Pst?

[finite fog]

only if you care about getting eos

[vale minnow]

11 pm, 5pm and like 8 am

[vale minnow]

pacific time

[finite fog]

wait what's wrong with those times

[vale minnow]

11 pm is like sleep time since i wake up at 6:30, and yes i try to have a normal sleep schedule

and i got club practice during 5 pm

[torpid shuttle]

just rush tho

[finite fog]

it's 11pm, 11am and 5pm btw

[vale minnow]

i can only make 11 am

ill be an hour late for 5 pm

and like 7 hours late for 11 pm

so i guess no aotn for me

[finite fog]

pretty much perfect for bagging

you don't have to move on the dot

[vale minnow]

bagging?

[finite fog]

where you stay at 5/10 before reset

[vale minnow]

do they reset or add up?

[finite fog]

and then when you can reach 2200, rush 10

boom aotn

you get 5 more exercises every reset

there's a sandbagging section near the back section of the pinned guide

probably read that

[vale minnow]

alrright, can youll giove me like times i should get on and do ex