pvp

[floral wave]

[scenic tendon]

And what the fck is wrong with your screen, ykkz?

It may affect my reputation.

And I will become infamous.

[floral wave]

uhm sir

[scenic tendon]

Time to kill 1tonight

Then reborn as someone else

[floral wave]

rename

[pseudo copper]

0tonight

[ancient raptor]

It can happen when you go back from floating window to full screen.

[scenic tendon]

0tonight is 1tonight without his balls

[scenic tendon]

I see I see

The GUI is sometimes affected too

[neon bronze]

Very gaming

[serene epoch]

2yesterday

[scenic tendon]

9eleven.

[ocean quest]

+1tonight

[flint python]

[modern kestrel]

Why didn't my pvp attempts recover? It always recovers at 8 pm in my time zone and it didn't do that for some reason

[stable dawn]

DST

your time may change but the game's clock doesn't

so now it recovers at 7 PM for you, probably

[modern kestrel]

Oh i see, ty

[neon bronze]

fdg - nj - hiryuu good enough

[neon bronze]

frontline, how's your jintsuu Meta point progress? 20k? 25k?

[ornate cosmos]

25k

[neon bronze]

Great, now level her up

Run JintM - Shimakaze (if u get her in the rerun - Noshiro for now

Work on getting Harbin for better frontline

[ocean quest]

harbin middle if no shima yes

[ornate cosmos]

I hve harbin dev 30 fs4 close to on making her fs5

[ornate cosmos]

Will get shima tomm no matter what haha

[flint python]

surely

[scenic tendon]

How to pvp?

[ocean quest]

🤼‍♂️

[lusty hill]

🔪

[neon bronze]

serenity will (not) get shimakaze

[lusty hill]

after I get shimakaze I will be on the leaderboard and then i will be cool

[ocean quest]

[flint python]

[scenic tendon]

Easier said than done

I mean the "getting Shima" part.

[lusty hill]

I have cubes

[scenic tendon]

[flint python]

inb4 pity

[lusty hill]

[floral wave]

mods on this server surely are a special breed

[hollow valve]

your problem not reading rule

[floral wave]

not really, more like your problem not being able to use discord properly

[hollow valve]

so you choose to just get banned?

[floral wave]

whatever floats your boat

[hollow valve]

i literally gave you reminder for these shit

[floral wave]

when

[hollow valve]

go read nimi

or if you block her then your lost

[floral wave]

i got only one message right now

[hollow valve]

yeah so it's a you problem because you have nimi blocked

[floral wave]

if i got the message now that means i didnt have her blocked since i joined the server yesterday, are you trying to tell me you were giving me reminders when i wasnt a member of the server?

[hollow valve]

no

i just gave it like a few minute ago

when i saw you on gph

[floral wave]

thats weird

[hollow valve]

[floral wave]

well i guess we're talking about the same message then

[hollow valve]

if the msg has "reminder" then yes

[floral wave]

not that i left server to avoid it on purpose for months

[hollow valve]

im not saying you left on purpose to avoid

that's the reason why i gave you reminder

im just telling you, leaving for removing role is count as evasion

[deft escarp]

[scenic tendon]

Smh

[neon bronze]

no amagi-chan

That's how you know it isn't 1tonight

The real guy fascinates little ones.

[boreal comet]

Drama in #pvp?

[lusty hill]

someone may or may not impersonating 1tonight potentially ruining his pvp career

wait what happened

[scenic tendon]

You know me well

[scenic tendon]

This is a joke.

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/pewdiepie-9year-old-army-t-gay-congratulations-for-legal-reasons-thats-a-joke-gif-13924557

[scenic tendon]

[ocean quest]

never

[scenic tendon]

never

gonna give you up

[valid oxide]

I am eating well

[scenic tendon]

[neon bronze]

@deep hemlock this u?

[scenic tendon]

filthy

[neon bronze]

Just curious if nagaminogacha is him

gotta go

[scenic tendon]

[modest arch]

does the ranking of your opponent matter in how much rank points you get?

or can i just battle the easiest opponent every time

[scenic tendon]

you want to fight the leftmost opponent as higher points = more bonus points

[modest arch]

ohh so this is what this pinned message meant

[floral wave]

ye

[trail temple]

What career?

[serene epoch]

Imagine being full time pvper: not sleep friendly schedule, no payment, no health coverage and no one care about you exist

[hearty basalt]

how do i get to the rear admiral lower half, rear admiral, vice admiral, admiral, fleet admiral, and admiral of the navy in pvp? the highest i got is captain

[serene epoch]

Short version: do not lose/overcap
Long version: can be found in pvp guide in pins

[floral wave]

except points you also need to be at specific rank or higher to get these and the easiest solution is to do all exercises daily and not lose any of them

[deep hemlock]

Yes

[neon bronze]

Dw, someone moved

Also, 1 lvl higher than me... How's progress on there

[deep hemlock]

I don't even know what's the point of that account anymore, prob clear w15 no gacha next

[neon bronze]

[valid oxide]

I'm able to recover from overcap at this point in the season right?

[neon bronze]

Still doable

[valid oxide]

Good

[wheat anvil]

Yet again it's just 3 of them

I have good level gear on the other 3 as well yet

[serene epoch]

You are at the bottom of ladder and obviously won with preload.
What was you even expecting? They had no chance to fire

[wheat anvil]

Alright I guess time to

Test out

Ain't no way I win this

Bruh

I guess I should level her skill

[stable dawn]

peak pvp

[wheat anvil]

idk how helena does so much damage

With skill level 1

[serene epoch]

She do not need skill for it

She do pew pew

And on your lever Helena have enough pew-pew to be mvp

[wheat anvil]

My backline got railed tho

the Essex is too strong

[serene epoch]

Essex new meta

Time to rise her to 125

[steel coral]

ranger helena combo 2op

[astral niche]

Is this still useful in pvp?
I don't want to be the best, I just want to farm the currency... merit I believe you call it

[serene epoch]

If you do not lose and reach your goals then no reasons to change it right?

[late heath]

should be fine since you're attacker

you need more gears though

[astral niche]

I see 👀
Thanks 😊

[wheat torrent]

Should I make sure someone in my vanguard is wearing the beaver badge even if my pvp vanguard is mintsuu shima harbin?

And who best of those three to wear pearls tears?

[valid oxide]

Put beaver on a backliner

[wheat torrent]

Is it better than Washington treaty on Musashi? NJ is already wearing a manjuu and kear is wearing oil cans

[neon bronze]

Monkey fleet...
Triple BB fleets don't really like WNT skill active, since it means longer fights. Musashi can get Beaver there

Beaver has more worth on backline since backline ships don't really have high EVA stat

Frontline is loaded up on aux slots anyway, especially with 2 of the 3 torpmeme variants using one black torp aux at least

jintM oxytorp, shima pearl and harbin speed aux

[wheat torrent]

Is there a better fleet than monkey?

Which speed aux? Wirbel?

What about gold burns?

[neon bronze]

Higher speed stat aux is better
Wirbel is fine, Boiler is fine as well

do prefer the boiler on Harbin

not sure why Lexington likes harbin w/ goldburn though. Don't believe in that rec'd aux

if ur average speed stat is 48 to 55 for your frontline then ur gucci

[wheat torrent]

I don’t have those collab speed auxes.

So just use boiler?

[wheat torrent]

Kicks better than wirbel or boiler?

Rainbow AA better than bofors?

What about rainbow quint mags? Or ditch them for teatorps?

[neon bronze]

Personally prefer Kicks Harbin myself, I reach speed req's fine with it.
When in doubt, can use boiler

[serene epoch]

Staag for accuracy and rainbow for aa

[neon bronze]

Both are fine, STAAGs are cheaper to craft and +13 enhance. No need to craft more UR AA

[neon bronze]

turns out it's more likely for teatorp torps hitting ships than quint mag torps hitting anything at all

[wheat torrent]

Kk, cool. Just sad about my quint mags and uss pvp torps at +13, when both are inferior to just more tea torps

[neon bronze]

uss magtorps copium

[wheat torrent]

I made them for unzen anti sub warfare in w14 lol

They still suck

[neon bronze]

at least teatorp aren't ur rarity, can raise three +13 twat-torps compared to one +13 quint mag

[wheat torrent]

I should’ve tested them

[boreal comet]

I am on that copium

[neon bronze]

Weirdga

Just go farm Aurora Noctis D1

[ocean quest]

how much overcap

1-2 fights? copeable
5? i dont think so

[scenic tendon]

Sure.

Is your fleet all set?

I want to try things

[ocean quest]

dont touch amagi-chan

[trail temple]

[scenic tendon]

you guys are hopeless

[valid oxide]

3

[serene epoch]

And what is your goal?
Like you can overcap 20 early season and achieve aotn

[valid oxide]

I'm aiming for my first eos

[lusty hill]

20

[serene epoch]

yeah, you still can get in t10

[ocean quest]

oh thats 45, it may be rough

[valid oxide]

I caught a bonus on 4 of 5 attempts of the previous set though

Which was fun

[ocean quest]

last season i overcapped 2 and was behind 41 on 1050 set

ended up 10 behind #1

but i dont think it will be enough for amagi eos

[valid oxide]

I'm simply strong enough to win

Trust

[ocean quest]

[serene epoch]

Nah, it's 30 at worst and if you overcap early you just getting more bonuses mid season and after aotn reset

[ocean quest]

3x15 is 45, and thats on top of what he was already behind the pace leader

and yes catchup will happen, but thats a shit load of points

[serene epoch]

doesnot mater how much you gain now, after 1050 its 10 points base, so overcap 3 = 30 pts

you can even count it as 9s because of late season

[ocean quest]

whar

reality is you will only have a chance to catch up on aotn which is 2-3 days

and even through all of that its rng as hell if you get right movers at right times through the season

[serene epoch]

You will not get less 15s if you overcap before 1050
You getting same number of sub admiral rank pvps nomatter what.
But your total number of exercises in season will be lower leading you to less post admiral rank points.
Thats why no matter when you overcap you will get only less 10s in season

[ocean quest]

ah i remember

still i would bet he could catch up maybe to like 15 behind #1 at best case

[serene epoch]

And if you overcap early, you have more time to recover.

[valid oxide]

I don't think I'll ever get #1 eos

[neon bronze]

t10 ez enough

deathkt prob tell u r1 ez as well

[valid oxide]

R1 easy for death

Not for me

I'm still a month off having enough bulins for shima mlb unless I get dupes

[scenic tendon]

How to reach r1?

[pseudo copper]

Veston has no Shima either

Still r1

[scenic tendon]

I don't have Shima

[valid oxide]

Veston will have shima

But also I'm running only 1 blacktorp on triple torp

[boreal comet]

Friendship ended with Hymen now Monkey is my best friend

[sudden spoke]

[valid oxide]

Rare Varia PvP sighting

[scenic tendon]

Go somewhere else, this place doesn't have enough people for you to bully.

[sudden spoke]

It does have me coming after you for being too silly

[scenic tendon]

Be pure.

[sudden spoke]

Be pure. Talk about PvP

Or there will be blood

[scenic tendon]

Do you have any pvp attempts left?

Lel.

Serious question. Monkey or Musashi/Hiryuu/Keasarge (MK Hero)?

[sudden spoke]

I don't do PvP. Only for missions

[scenic tendon]

You are just looking for people for you to bully.

Smh.

[valid oxide]

1tonight will be 0tomorrow if he keeps talking

[scenic tendon]

its 1:47am alr

[boreal comet]

He meant there won't be 1 tonight anymore

[scenic tendon]

He's dead.

[valid oxide]

I give up on this season too much overcap

[scenic tendon]

Nom nom.

[ocean quest]

hymen stan

[flint python]

[trail temple]

Beat up noob fleets with biszwei, superior strat

[scenic tendon]

Keep trying

You might wall someone

[grim solar]

Bit late but what the hell happened to the Shinano/Juneau fleet from the previous meta?

Damn Kearsarge completely obliterated the composition holy shit.

[valid oxide]

Kear didn't obliterate it

JintM did

Actually kear probably had a part to play but

[ocean quest]

eh, it wouldve been same without kear

[neon bronze]

You can outdamage Juneau + Pearl heals now

Invalidates stall comps now

Which Shinano and Hiryuu to an extent, relies on

[valid oxide]

Isn't hiryuu still good

Since funny invuln

[grim solar]

Are rainbow torps (the aux one) not good on the new torp comps now? 🤔

[scenic tendon]

Battles come down to Final counter's timer.

So you know...

[valid oxide]

I've had hiryuu remain unspotted a few times

My hiryuu

[floral wave]

she is

[floral wave]

its good on jintsuu meta

[grim solar]

Guess I'm farming Aurora Noctis for the next month.

[brazen socket]

Gonna be paying a good visit to aurora noctis

Boutta finish kearsarge and I havent made it past 2 black torps

[floral wave]

at least when you get 3 you'll never need more

unless chapter16 torp support fleet

[scenic tendon]

how many holes do you want to be fulfilled?

[neon bronze]

How many holes do you think a woman has

[scenic tendon]

bro this is pvp

not a medical school

[serene epoch]

according to hentai artists — not enough

[neon bronze]

But you asked?

[neon bronze]

Truly not enough, under the sun

[scenic tendon]

I didnt even mention woman

[ocean quest]

that would be vs 3bb

[brazen socket]

[torpid shuttle]

D30 kear :gasm:

[boreal comet]

1tonight moment

Bottom text

[scenic tendon]

stop stalking

[boreal comet]

I'll dm eos this time

Trust

[torpid shuttle]

so why is monkey the strongest, and mk villain the most consistent

what is the wording meaning here

[scenic tendon]

you are wondering about funny names or why are they strong?

or why does the strongest not equal to the most consistent?

[torpid shuttle]

second

what's making the fleet inconsistent while it's the strongest

[scenic tendon]

its power

and torp rng is the main factor for this meta

[torpid shuttle]

so isnt consistency better

[scenic tendon]

Consistency means less depend on rng. The fleet might be weaker and slower that the strongest (which has higher power, faster, better winrate with attacker advantage yet still depend on rng (mainly bad torps)) but the performances throughout different battles are somewhat the same as you can expect.

[torpid shuttle]

so consistency is still lower winrate than strongest

[scenic tendon]

Who knows if you can get bad torp spawn three times in a row someday with monkey comp lel.

[torpid shuttle]

or consistency will only lose to higher enhanced fleets but wont get fucked vs less

[scenic tendon]

Remind me about Hymen comp when 3BB meta.

Just pure consistency.

But take so long.

[torpid shuttle]

consistent is fine for me

[scenic tendon]

I think consistency deals better with rare bad rng

[torpid shuttle]

i alt tab every fight

[scenic tendon]

You have the attacker advantage... so yeah.

[torpid shuttle]

if consistency just loses very consistently to higher rated comps, but much more rarely to lower

then i go hymen

or mk villain

whichever im vibing

[scenic tendon]

Vanguard fleets are kinda consistent ngl

Because you can use wnt and her skill neutrals the debuff

Free 15% dmg reduction

[torpid shuttle]

the worst part of mk villain is 2 +13 457s

[scenic tendon]

[valid oxide]

MK hero beloved

[scenic tendon]

The worst part of MSN is 2 +13 wyverns, 2 +13 457mm

[valid oxide]

Hymen and mk hero best fleets ong

[stable dawn]

just use mafia

but drop VV for Musashi

[scenic tendon]

I'm still using MSN

No more

Hiryuu comps fights nowadays are just Final Counter's timer.

[valid oxide]

Yakuza cring

[scenic tendon]

Smh

Nothing feels better than 8s fights

[stable dawn]

also drop anchorage and duca

[valid oxide]

Your 8s fight when my 15s hiryuu

[scenic tendon]

Don't you agree?

[valid oxide]

[stable dawn]

use Jintsuu META and Harbin

[scenic tendon]

smh

kanie

[stable dawn]

sandyfication

[stable dawn]

you mean a 15s fight

[scenic tendon]

<20s fights are good

for me

Hiryuu is cringe.

French-ships end with Hymen. Now Monkey is my best friend.

[ocean quest]

you should make a comp like that be a thing

[neon bronze]

a good amount of people did btw

[ocean quest]

no wayyy

[neon bronze]

y'know. Wanna use Mafia but they didn't have NJ

[boreal comet]

[boreal comet]

🤝

1tonight is epic gamer fr

[tacit fox]

what's the recommended gear setup for yume and rikka for the gridman comp?

[tacit fox]

fuck i dont have extra magtorps

[steel coral]

oxy torp works too

[tacit fox]

alright

[steel coral]

just like mag torp more cuz HIT stat

[scenic tendon]

Please do not use Gridman comp.

I'm begging you.

[coarse herald]

Use gridman comp? Guess I'll make one too then

[winged depot]

yes, make them pls

[flint python]

[brazen socket]

Is chise still being actively used for protection or was that chise tech dropped

[flint python]

Protection against what?

[steel coral]

against up to 15 shots

duh

[floral wave]

[neon bronze]

sounds like smth i'd believe in

given i actually tried her for a while

[brazen socket]

protection for fortune meta

or smth

all I could remember is somebody posted abt chise and everyone started hyping up aoste

[neon bronze]

Poggers

[brazen socket]

speaking of

hows flandre tech coming along

[boreal comet]

[serene epoch]

Flanwho?

[neon bronze]

are u familiar with this french invention

[serene epoch]

Never saw her on lexi ladder outside of pr/dr6 flex/showcase def fleets

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/oversimplified-french-revolution-guillotine-robespierre-maximilien-robespierre-gif-8081297201075743631

[brazen socket]

Ig people stopped bothering cooking with her

[brazen socket]

omfg did you just leak the french ur

[neon bronze]

tbh i kinda expected flandre usage would rise a bit

since servers starting to pivot to jintM frontlines

but zero times a bit is still zero

[brazen socket]

it's gonna take like

until early 2024 before people adapt to kearsarge in their fleets

even early 2024 is generous because god forbid people know how to properly research

[scenic tendon]

she got nerfed, sadly

[brazen socket]

they nerfed flandre?

awm

[scenic tendon]

they nerfed her thighs

it used to be much thiccer

[brazen socket]

ew

[scenic tendon]

lol

[neon bronze]

big loss

[scenic tendon]

yeah ik, right?

[ocean quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957644866244980758/1120839229774250104/i-text.gif

idk what would flqn bring to the table, that secondary gun meme seems funny but she needs to be low for that

[neon bronze]

Crying

[scenic tendon]

grinding

[neon bronze]

Pvp gear

[ocean quest]

[scenic tendon]

no

farming gear

[brazen socket]

girl bye not the +13 quints

[ocean quest]

2019 pvp gear type beat

[brazen socket]

and the rudder too

[scenic tendon]

are you happy?

[brazen socket]

No the damage has already been done

[neon bronze]

it's like cnuuyman stacking eva stat on ship of hull type that already have high eva stat

[brazen socket]

I will forever laugh at you for having a +13 quint

[neon bronze]

i kept a +13 quint to use on harbin for a while

[scenic tendon]

I have too many +13'd torps

[brazen socket]

little question, what torps did 1st gen torp meme use?

[scenic tendon]

and the preload does matter

[brazen socket]

I'm like pretty sure by the time they started cooking tea torps werent a thing yet

[neon bronze]

think there were teatorps

[brazen socket]

oh wait

[neon bronze]

cope options were like a quad torp or smth

[brazen socket]

they werent cooking until after opsi update?

[scenic tendon]

[brazen socket]

wtf im snailing so hard

i'm 50 prints away from you

[scenic tendon]

and im broke

ran out of oils and coins

[serene epoch]

Iirc this torps had old pattern, as teatorp rn

But I might be wrong

Not sure about this

[scenic tendon]

Time to buy this pack for exp books.

[serene epoch]

[scenic tendon]

nvm i still have to do aff farming stuff

[neon bronze]

[scenic tendon]

smh

I should not have done that.

-40k coins

Now I'm having coin issue.

[boreal comet]

I have 2

[scenic tendon]

I'm happy as I made someone happy.

[brazen socket]

uahahha happy pill

[scenic tendon]

Or make someone happy forever...

[boreal comet]

Every man's wish

[scenic tendon]

[floral wave]

same, idk whats wrong with +13 quint mag

[torpid shuttle]

im pretty close to running optimal pvp build

[serene epoch]

Same dps as quad mag but cost to upgrade is 3 times higher.
So issue is basically efficiency

[stable dawn]

the bigger FP number is worth

[neon bronze]

Truth

[neon bronze]

Well I had it because i had gold torp plates in abundance and could afford it lol

Probably with very specific and situatonal comps though, defender's frontline is closer to your backline than theirs backline

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-rizz-lightskin-stare-lightskin-monkey-lick-lips-monkey-stare-gif-27631236

[zenith tide]

heh embed fail

[winged depot]

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-meme-epic-embed-gif-19473600

[torpid shuttle]

im lvling kear, jim, and shima all at once
pvp upgrade is nutty

[ocean quest]

rank 1

[torpid shuttle]

mk hero better be consistent afk meta is best

[ocean quest]

i dont think you can be consistent without a big investment

[torpid shuttle]

i think im only short one +13 wyvern and oaths

and i guess one more +13 flapjack on kear

i have one alread

[neon bronze]

[stable dawn]

nothing is consistent due to torp meta lol

you just have to look at your screen and hope you don't get rolled

[torpid shuttle]

did enemy vanguard spawn closer to top or bottom of center

[boreal comet]

Random stray torps killing a backline is the funni

[flint python]

[lusty hill]

Defender torps are more likely to hit backline than attacker torps due to torp range

[floral wave]

im not talking about pve

[grim solar]

Curious question, but how is it that Kearsarge is able to reveal carriers but a ship like Unicorn is unable to on her first airstrike?

Like what is the mechanics behind that?

[torpid shuttle]

you mean why she's recced for reveal, or you just used them both and saw kear > uni

[grim solar]

It's more like why Kear works but why Uni doesn't. Cuz I used to use Uni in PvP only to realize that she doesn't reveal CVs.

Yet somehow Kear is able to with seemingly less planes, so I'm curious as to why that is.

[torpid shuttle]

i can think of some reasons, but im just bs

cant confirm

[grim solar]

Btw not trying to argue against the game but I just wanna understand it.

[torpid shuttle]

it's probably intercept timers

i.e all interceptors are up at T=0, but theyre on cooldown at T=13

[stable dawn]

uni does work. The main issue is uni is super squishy

she will disappear against better fleets

just poof sunk

[scenic tendon]

They just asked why his Uni didnt work mate.

Maybe it was just his Unicorn couldnt intercept.

[flint python]

Does your uni use avgas

[native crescent]

Ideal vanguard was Anchorage, Shimakaze, and Noshiro, right? Or, was Juneau the keeper? I didn't have Shimakaze, until this rerun.

[scenic tendon]

You can check the pin...

[native crescent]

Damn, I need Musashi.

[scenic tendon]

Better raising your Keasarge asap

[grim solar]

At the time she wasn't no. She was using dual steam cats.

[neon bronze]

avgas increase plane hp and plane speed stats

Both stats improve crash damage

first slot is whatever, AVI or HIT stat for more damage or hitrate ig

but avgas always there unless if you know what u doing

[grim solar]

Does it make a difference in revealing CVs? 🤔

[scenic tendon]

Yes, as your planes can be shotted down by AA guns. More plane hp and more speed (which avgas offers) will reduce the chance of it happening, hence increasing the chance of the plans to actually reach the other side.

[grim solar]

Ohhhhh.

Very interesting.

[scenic tendon]

And more plane hp = more crash damage

[grim solar]

So that's likely why my old Uni wasn't revealing CVs.

Aight, thank you.

[flint python]

[serene epoch]

French feather for avi and eva works too

[long glacier]

hi, new to the azur lane discord

been playing azur lane for a couple years now

currently lvl 113

no idea how to actually play the game, been a bit of a noob

whats a good pvp fleet composition

This is what the fleet looks like now

These are the ships that I have

[serene epoch]

Look in pins, read guide

[long glacier]

shmounds good

[serene epoch]

Like it is not #gameplay-help we are not making fleet for you.
But if you will still have questions after reading guide, you can ask then

[long glacier]

ah...my apologies

i'm still not familiar with the community here

or with discord to begin with

[serene epoch]

np

[long glacier]

so I should go to the gameplay place then?

[neon bronze]

[serene epoch]

They gonna redirect you back here. Just read guide in pin

[long glacier]

oh wow

never knew thats how pins worked...

[neon bronze]

Sushi, NJ, all set for backline option

[neon bronze]

Hello there

[long glacier]

sushi?

[brazen socket]

As rogro just said go read the guide in pins as it pretfy much tells u everything there

If you need help for PVE content go in gameplay help BUT don't post your images instantly there

[neon bronze]

Do you have Jintsuu META at full limitbreak?

[long glacier]

no...not at all

[long glacier]

my bad

[neon bronze]

Popular nickname for Musashi

[long glacier]

jeez...i'm really out of touch with the mainstream community

[serene epoch]

Did you start her?

[long glacier]

my apologies

wow, the google sheets is crazy

[neon bronze]

It's as comprehensive as far as PvP gets

Do note that pvp gears can be vastly different to pve gears

[long glacier]

pve?

is there like a google sheets for all the jargon y'all use

[neon bronze]

i think there is

But it's hard to find it on phone

[long glacier]

ah thats fine

dang, this game is pretty deep huh...

[serene epoch]

It is as deep as you want it to be. No one forbids you to play casually.

[long glacier]

true true

imma stick to casual then

but appreciate the support!

again, apologies for the sudden spamming

[neon bronze]

Pve (bit outdated): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRi32cJUxFgwwSk9EmJ40TPJITLnMD4rFlzODCMtK0XVl7pTGaEy21RRGLWGOtq2Qkb3qRmUa4YTtxS/pubhtml

Pvp sheet has their own jargon, can check it out on pvp sheet

[long glacier]

appreciate it

cheers

[sour pawn]

I’ve been trying JintsuuM in PvP and I gotta say this has been much better then I was expecting, but I’m presuming once I get Harbin and Kearsarge I’d wanna swap them in too?

[neon bronze]

yes; noshiro does fine there, she buffs torps. but ofc harbin is better since an extra torp launch outdamages noshiro torp dmg boff
and yes; kear in general is very, very good

for a permanent ship option

[flint python]

[neon bronze]

man why are videos looking like powerpoint presentation for me

Fortune META usage

then again i'm not known for pretty hard defense fleets

[boreal comet]

Misfortune META

[ocean quest]

well fortune should counter 3 torps

[steel coral]

[boreal comet]

That's enough time for your other vanguards to melt the enemy

[flint python]

[neon bronze]

changed team

[ocean quest]

it will take a while to update for others

[neon bronze]

i know

[ocean quest]

like an hour iirc

[scenic tendon]

How to pvp?

[sudden spoke]

pick fleet. Blow up ships

[neon bronze]

[scenic tendon]

Nice guide.

I want to blow up KMS ships.

Even mine.

[boreal comet]

1tonight is too powerful to pvp

[floral wave]

updates at every full hour

so it depends when you change it

[zenith tide]

mods in #pvp? omaga

[deft escarp]

Do you have torp meme ready?

[scenic tendon]

What even is that?

I don't even know what even is torp meme.

But here is my team.

[ocean quest]

[scenic tendon]

where is your r1?

[ocean quest]

in my basement, wanna see?

[scenic tendon]

I can read your mind, lil sht.

Eeek...

What are you even thinking?

[ocean quest]

[valid oxide]

Give me r1 eos when

Pls free season no overcap

Do I need to play on a dead server for that

[scenic tendon]

Come to his basement, he does know how to pull out the trick.

[ocean quest]

[scenic tendon]

It still took me some times to achieved it.

[ocean quest]

old pvpers dont want you to know about it

[scenic tendon]

To be accurate, 2 seasons.

[valid oxide]

Should've played on washi

[scenic tendon]

[ocean quest]

washy rank 1 is harder than sandy rank 1

[scenic tendon]

Don't push yourself too hard.

[ocean quest]

tho eos top10 is easy on both

[scenic tendon]

Pull out a higher score than 2594 then we can talk.

[ocean quest]

yeah yeah

go back to thw basement

[scenic tendon]

If not, it means that I can do greater stuffs than you can in your big server.

Bozo.

[scenic tendon]

go back to day-dreaming.

[ocean quest]

good night

[scenic tendon]

No r1?

[ocean quest]

[scenic tendon]

And I feel Washington is even Sandyficated than Sandy itself.

Smh.

But people can still achieve some good scores.

[deft escarp]

What of your equips?

[scenic tendon]

sheet

[deft escarp]

Everything +13?

[scenic tendon]

Yeah

Even aa guns

and manjuu

and pearl

[deft escarp]

Nice

[scenic tendon]

I'm currently working on... a second +13 457mm

In case if I want to run Keasarge, NJ, Musashi on my attack fleet and leave Hiryuu on def

[boreal comet]

Monke

Stonk

[scenic tendon]

And a fcking ur torp aux

[torpid shuttle]

is anyone here subscribing to manjuu kear

[scenic tendon]

My comp only has 1 USS.

You know it.

[torpid shuttle]

i see

[scenic tendon]

And I want to create some troubles.

So yeah, manjuu keasarge as there is nothing to put manjuu on.

[deft escarp]

Lmao

Don't have Kear yet

Ig I'll just stick to Musashi flag

[torpid shuttle]

why's kear's note in the guide "massive crash damage"?

it's only 4 planes

[scenic tendon]

200% eff fighter slot

tell me if it doesnt hit like a truck

🐒

[torpid shuttle]

so that wasnt just surface damage

[scenic tendon]

it isn't

[torpid shuttle]

the heck is the crash damage formula

[scenic tendon]

I don't know it yet

I can let you know when I'm done

[steel coral]

don't think 1 extra dev level can make up that much

[torpid shuttle]

according to this, it is not scaling off of efficiency of slots

AVI, plane HP, lvls and lvl dif

idk where efficiency is accounted

is it considered damage bonus

[scenic tendon]

[steel coral]

that's gonna double her damage?

[scenic tendon]

You already know it.

[torpid shuttle]

an entire 457 volley is alot of damage

[scenic tendon]

From 2 to 3
From 125% eff to 140%

[torpid shuttle]

yea idk if fighter efficiency boosts crash damage

unless you can prove that wiki formula is incomplete

[scenic tendon]

Same thought tho.

I feel like the main purpose of that fighter slot is to buff and to reveal CVs.

[torpid shuttle]

that much is for sure

[scenic tendon]

For that reason, I just use tigercat on Keasarge

Faster reload and speed to reveal cvs sooner

[torpid shuttle]

does flapjack not reveal before musashi fires?

[scenic tendon]

Musashi always be the first one to burst

And her shelling dmg with blue gun...

She should reveal all the CVs at 20s mark

[steel coral]

just in time for 460mm

[scenic tendon]

Yes

20s mark

So you can't literally time any 457mm bullets.

[steel coral]

should give her +5 mgm or sum

[scenic tendon]

That comp is fcking aggro

And I fcking love it.

Hiryuu has a fraction of Shinano's power.

She does hit like a truck.

[boreal comet]

I accidentally read nard's bio and do not regret it

[scenic tendon]

Are you trying to bait us?

I'll call the cobs.

[boreal comet]

I'll call ur mum

[scenic tendon]

Please tell her to keep herself warm and healthy. Winter has came and the cold can't be underestimated. I did call her yesterday but it'd be better if someone remind her again.

[valid oxide]

Wdym

[grim solar]

So uh, how useful are the new Tempesta ships in PvP?
Cuz I remember reading this Reddit comment saying that Sao might be useful in PvP.

[stable dawn]

essexWheeze

[grim solar]

Welp.

[lusty hill]

Let reddit cook

[neon bronze]

No AA stats means the Tempesta ships are fucked against CVs

For Sao Martinho specifically;
Not being able to equip HSFCR always means she's behind other BBs when firing.
She definitely doesn't have the bulk compared to the staple UR BBs
Skills? Idk they do. But if they were notable in pvp usage, I'd at least known it by now. Yet there aren't.

[lusty hill]

They will add bugs and sao marthino will be broken

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve just overcapped by five fights in pvp

What are my chances for aotn

Too busy writing a review paper sheesh

[neon bronze]

You were bagging right

Still doable, u are probably at rusher pace rn

Got u earlier but didn't feel like colluding with

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly not really, I had to rush, collapsed for a nap then had to cram to finish my paper

That took from noon to now…

Completely forgot about pvp

But oh well thanks

[flint python]

[grim solar]

Didn't think her lack of AA would gut her ranking so much. 🤔
Nearly the same consensus in gameplay-help when I asked about her tiering, in that her lack of AA is a factor in evaluation.

[torpid shuttle]

every 150 aa stat is ~+100% plane ehp from 0 aa

NJ has ~450 AA, so sao takes 4x the plane damage compared to NJ

[grim solar]

Ohhhhh so that's how it's calculated.

[boreal comet]

She does have an 80% buffed reload on the first salvo but yes the rest fucks her up

[whole salmon]

The most sadge part is that she has to use Tempesta gear. It means the enhanced gears that we have been using in pvp so far can’t be used on them. Most of us aren’t also inclined to enchant those new gears for temporary marginal gains when possibilities of meta shifts is equally imminent

[scenic tendon]

Kearsarge's ARA if there is another uss ship on main fleet.

[neon bronze]

Big RIP indeed. All that investment for an absolutely niche ship

[boreal comet]

Well at least you wouldn't have to swap gear on it

[buoyant parrot]

would appreciate if Avrora PvP movers would ping me when you get matched. I'd like to get data regarding the set Def I have. Thank you

[flint python]

[buoyant parrot]

don't even ask me to move or snipe at the last min. Cheshire have an answer for you

[flint python]

[stark carbon]

I'm an Avovra PvP

Also, is anyone here using Torpedo PvP build?

Man, why are not many people using Torpedo PvP build

I rarely, almost never met one

[buoyant parrot]

which Torp Build?

I using this one

[stark carbon]

PvP?

[buoyant parrot]

yeah

[stark carbon]

I personally used Harbin instead

Why's not many people use Torpedo PvP build?

It's literally one of the cringiest build that ever exist on Azur Lane PvP

[buoyant parrot]

Well I mean I use Harbin in Offense

Jintsu Meta, Shima, Harbin

that's my Offense Team

[stark carbon]

Huh

Ever wondered why nobody else used it?

I mean, there are few others

[buoyant parrot]

Im sure there's a bunch who still uses it, I mean its a nuking team

[stark carbon]

I mean, is everyone agrees to not be a cringe and put it on Defense or what?

[buoyant parrot]

this is my offensive team

[stark carbon]

Nice, nice

[buoyant parrot]

I don't use that on def for its easy to break

[stark carbon]

Looks like everyone started to used Kearsarge instead of Aquila

[buoyant parrot]

Aquila is old lol

might want to check out the latest tiering

so get yourself up to date

[stark carbon]

Also, Still Hate Bismarck Black Hole. Always get a lucky shot and obliterates my Vanguard

[buoyant parrot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BewmBsf4EWKAf_UwYax05c7ksL51y6sjs96pIwD73Jc/edit#gid=2106096274

speaking of Aquila

[stark carbon]

Ahhhh

[buoyant parrot]

Aquila's hard counter is Kearsarge

[stark carbon]

I mean, I kinda figured out on my own

Also, I've talked about this before haven't I? About 2 weeks ago

2-3 weeks? Idk

[buoyant parrot]

should you want to know more about the PvP aspects you can join the server of the PvP actives, its also there on that sheet

they chat a lot about things there

and how not be a KENNY

[stark carbon]

Wait, there is?

[stark carbon]

Ohhh

[buoyant parrot]

we're the one who test out comps what's best and META based on use and utility

[stark carbon]

I see I see

Thanks

[brazen socket]

Well gold plates, needing to farm 3 black torps
having to pick up your ass and do opsi for a month for jintsuu meta

It doesnt help people only now are farming more than 1 black torp

[valid oxide]

Oh

[scenic tendon]

just dont be a Kenny

[buoyant parrot]

[wicked surge]

Pvp tryhards

[scenic tendon]

copium

[boreal comet]

I only have 1 at +13

[brazen socket]

The crushing realization that I would have to eventually +13 a 2nd 457...

[boreal comet]

Worth

[scenic tendon]

Stop playing league, it's bad for your mental health.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/772491153022517248/798399439991210054/superSandyRun.gif

Or you can just... use Hymen.

[boreal comet]

You know what's also bad for your mental health

[scenic tendon]

You.

[boreal comet]

Azur Lane PvP

[lusty hill]

I only have one +13 457 and I'm doing fine

[scenic tendon]

I had 2 +11 457mm when I reached r1

[lusty hill]

How much is +11 even increase in damage

[scenic tendon]

4% from +10

10% from +10 if +12
18% if +13

so +4/+6/+8

[lusty hill]

Smaller than I thought

[scenic tendon]

That mindset aint gonna work.

Grind more!

@ancient raptor how many "1tonight" dudes have you received?

I'm kinda curious.

[pseudo copper]

0tonight

[stable dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-shy-blush-danmachi-gif-21117096

[ancient raptor]

Two 1tonight and one 2600tonight

[scenic tendon]

Not included me?

6 here.

[ancient raptor]

It's you i guess?

[pseudo copper]

It's a fake

[ancient raptor]

Oh

[pseudo copper]

Tonight is 140

100% true

[ancient raptor]

I am confused. Too many tonight's

[scenic tendon]

Real ones has Amagi-chan's pfp

[boreal comet]

Not even dev30 Kearsarge

Casual

[zenith tide]

lel

[torpid shuttle]

kear's barrage planes are 537 hp and 2 planes, flapjack's is 1050

so kear's note in the pvp guide is a bit strange

it's not massive crash damage, unless you mean it's only because of its timing

[torpid shuttle]

unless pvpers can prove that this formula is incomplete, i think it's been wrong before

[valid oxide]

4 200% efficiency fighters

That's where the crash damage comes from

[torpid shuttle]

but that's not in the crash damage formula

[valid oxide]

Oh?

Idk then

[torpid shuttle]

right here

[valid oxide]

Test kear for yourself and make judgement then

[torpid shuttle]

whether to call it massive or not? ok

[torpid shuttle]

other types of damage do have slot efficiency and weapon coefficient accounted

why does only jim shima fortunemeta have "strongest vanguard in the current meta" in its description when it's a rock paper scissors

does it have real problems against anchorage? severely bad?

mk hero + jim shima fortune meta sounds safe

[stable dawn]

did someone change it

when I wrote the rock paper scissors effect, all three vanguards were meant to be equal

[torpid shuttle]

idk what it once was

[stable dawn]

crash damage is based on remaining plane HP, is it not?

[torpid shuttle]

avi, lvl dif, and plane hp

[stable dawn]

Flapjack has a ton of HP. Naturally its crash damage is huge in comparison

[torpid shuttle]

people kept saying its 200% effi mattered

but it does not, and it's only 4 fighters

[stable dawn]

looking through the wiki, efficiency increases its bomb damage

[torpid shuttle]

im only looking at this bit

guaranteed cv reveal is its own important thing yea

[torpid shuttle]

so the desc needs to be rediscussed?

or you forcibly change it back

[stable dawn]

I don't see the issue here

it's just about flapjack and aviation fuel interaction

[torpid shuttle]

massive sounds like

it's its own cv that's big dmg

should be less than like hiryuu

[stable dawn]

I guess difference in interpretation

it is massive compared to any other fighter

[torpid shuttle]

if you want to reinforce the rock paper scissors thing, you should add rock paper scissors into the triple torp description as well

triple torp doesnt have it

[stable dawn]

but it's not going to like, rival shinano

(if she was still viable )

yeah I'll fix the vg descs later

thanks for letting me know

[torpid shuttle]

if this is all it is then idm

[torpid shuttle]

wow this is so annoying

+13 increases plane hp but not the crash damage stat that planes have

so i have to use a user page mine to read the +13 increased stats

so it doesnt actually increase plane crash damage

but it makes them more tanky, so they lose less damage when travelling through AA circle

due to crash formula scaling off of plane hp%, not raw hp stat

[scenic tendon]

Base on crash dmg formula, there is nothing other than plane hp.

[torpid shuttle]

huh?

[scenic tendon]

The other factors are just constants if you take that in consideration.

Literally.

[torpid shuttle]

the last 4 are

[scenic tendon]

And as we only have 1 variable: crash damage.

[torpid shuttle]

what are you talking about first 3

crashdamage is a stat on planes

[scenic tendon]

^

What

[torpid shuttle]

crash damage the variable here?

[scenic tendon]

Smh

Let me double check it again

[neon bronze]

psst, flapjack too slow

[scenic tendon]

There are

[neon bronze]

tigercat better on kear

[scenic tendon]

Current hp

The rest are fine

How about crash dmg

[neon bronze]

flapjack will have to deal with UR AA guns firing twice on flapjack

[torpid shuttle]

220 196 on flap vs tiger

[scenic tendon]

I thought crash dmg was just end of screen dmg

[torpid shuttle]

crash damage in that formula refers to this

[scenic tendon]

Now its a constant

[neon bronze]

thus flapjack will have lower health % than tigercat is

important for crash damage

[scenic tendon]

Try AA baiting

[neon bronze]

But Kear prefers USS planes though

[scenic tendon]

I know

Thats why I'm using tigercat on Keasarge

As I'm too broke to upgrade another +13 plap

[neon bronze]

i dread kear

[scenic tendon]

3 bps left

[neon bronze]

need to +13 tigercat if so

[scenic tendon]

Already have it

[torpid shuttle]

i have +13 flap but not +13 tiger, so this choice doesnt matter to me

[scenic tendon]

I need to check Keasarge's revealing time and vanguard torp reload time.

[neon bronze]

Regardless

Flapjack tanky enough to reveal CVs

Which

In 3 BB, resolves inconsistency issues with the fleet

In the sense of time in pvp fights itself

[torpid shuttle]

idk, since comps dont use juneau anymore, there's alot less AA

question matters a bit less

[scenic tendon]

Or you just want the enemy's Hiryuu become the first Hiryuu to be spotted.

Use tigercat.

[torpid shuttle]

my cogs are fading away to kear jim shima

[scenic tendon]

boomer's problem

[neon bronze]

Not gamer enough

[zenith lantern]

The time difference there likely doesn't matter, unless it times to one being revealed before a BB attack and one after

[flint python]

I don’t even use avgas on Kear

Manjuu Table

[scenic tendon]

I think you want to reveal the enemy's Hiryuu asap to create a time gap between their final counter. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[flint python]

[steel coral]

yes reveal right away and then wait the same amount of time until BBs fire again

[scenic tendon]

Time to use 460mm

[stable dawn]

just reveal them immediately so you can kill them before they can launch

[scenic tendon]

[steel coral]

[neon bronze]

Prob lost to this in testing

[flint python]

Gotta use percy for that

That Ancho so out of place lol

[neon bronze]

do i have to +13 a 2nd 457mm...

goddammit

[scenic tendon]

Yes.

[neon bronze]

nooo my 2 +13 406mk7s...

fuck

[scenic tendon]

Or you can just use other comps

Just not Monkey.

[neon bronze]

This comp could properly wall me

Would be nice if I use it myself

[flint python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/516951413411020819/1173586980236447744/RPReplay_Final1699875176.mov?ex=65647f0c&is=65520a0c&hm=8c93a98568efcf593cce4233871fc72e0cac66fb51d9a59a7469112b3acaf693&

Just use something like this