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little bobcat
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ill prob test out some perseus fleets when i get her too

candid sluice
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so you never tested her yet dismiss her viability?

little bobcat
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yes.

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that is exactly whjat i did

fickle echo
little bobcat
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hey ari

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can you read

fickle echo
little bobcat
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yes, she outdpsed two backliners that don't do very good damage

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your point?

fickle echo
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Preloaded Uni dones't have good damage output for mobbing? Ehhssex

neon bronze
little bobcat
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she has a preload

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kinda unfair

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and even then she doesn't even get MVP often for me

valid oxide
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If uni isn't MVP stealing on short fights your uni is broken BuckyPrideZoom

little bobcat
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my uni is 125, oathed and she's running perfect gear minus +13s

valid oxide
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Your uni is broken then Glowow

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Also define "perfect gear" Susge

little bobcat
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flapjack wyvern staag

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how do you improve that more

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w14 uses bf109g instead of flapjack that's it

valid oxide
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Deff just a broken uni then Glowow

little bobcat
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my vanguard is stealing m,y mvp

valid oxide
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But also how is my hellacat vit2 non oathed 125 uni outdamaging yours BuckyPrideZoom

little bobcat
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she probably isn't

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you're just putting hera gainst easy content where she farms mvp

valid oxide
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Major Magda skill issue

little bobcat
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im suffering from success

valid oxide
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Uni when the stronghold onefleet (only fdg/indep beat her on longer fights)

little bobcat
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im grinding c6s rn and my mp and vanguard are fighting for mvp

valid oxide
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Vanguard as in the BB or frontline DunktsukiStare

little bobcat
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as in the frontline

valid oxide
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Also c6 grinding put

little bobcat
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im more specifically just clearing them rn

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not having a fully lit up map in opsi bothers me

valid oxide
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This has been an excellent off-topic conversation, I would like advice on any improvements I can make to my current PvP fleet

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I'll just be one moment

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I'd use Harbin but she isn't d30 yet, noshiro works for now

little bobcat
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whos flag

valid oxide
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I don't have second teatorp, waiting on noctis for blacktorps

little bobcat
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im assuming fdg is flag

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i'd swap warspite or musashi to a slower gun

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spite to 457 or musashi to 410 kai

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you don't have much desync

valid oxide
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I don't have 457 Glowow

fickle echo
valid oxide
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What gears do I switch around then because I don't got many BB guns

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Maybe I just switch back to a hiryuu flag stall comp Portdoll

fickle echo
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The gun on Warspite is +10 right? Then switch it with FDG, a +10 gun instead of a +13 gun might make you miss some kills on backlines

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Or you can go CN and give FDG a HE gun DunktsukiStare

little bobcat
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i'm using musashi / fdg / shinano but it kinda sucks so i wanna test meme fleets again

valid oxide
neon bronze
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Damagewise, yes. Timing wise, either before FdG or before Warkai.

fickle echo
valid oxide
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This look right then?

fickle echo
# valid oxide This look right then?

I think you should use something that also gives HP on Noshiro because she isn't that tanky, use another boiler or that item from Ryza collab that's like a boiler

little bobcat
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^^^

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i was gonna say that

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without wnt you should use double boiler

stable dawn
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just grind a 457 for warspite. Not hard now since it's in the gear lab

little bobcat
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^^

stable dawn
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also I prefer Musashi flag for any triple BB comp as she is more likely to hit the vanguard with her lightning strikes that way

valid oxide
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I'm running sushi off-flag for cope backline sniping with copespite Boisium

stable dawn
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do you have HMS Vanguard?

little bobcat
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i'd rather replace fdg with vanguard than spite

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speaking from experience

stable dawn
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what's wrong with your fdg

little bobcat
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nothing

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the purpose of the fleet was to snipe backlines with spite

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and vanguard helped with that

valid oxide
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I don't have vanguard Ehhssex

stable dawn
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hmm

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could try the aldarn special

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Hiryuu Musashi FdG

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I'm not familiar enough with it to recommend gear tho

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@zenith lantern @fickle echo

valid oxide
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I was running that but with copespite instead

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While I grinded for fdg

little bobcat
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do yoiu have shinano

valid oxide
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No

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I took a break and missed nano rerun

fickle echo
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I never really used 2 BB+Hiryuu, I always used 2 BB+Shinano instead since I already had 2 +13 Wyvern during her rerun and she does more damage to backlines ShiSleep

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But Hiryuu gear is easy, Flapjack if you want damage/Corsair if you want speed+Tenrai/Gold Helldiver+Wyvern

little bobcat
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u know what

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fuck it

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i'm gonna use chaklov for a season when i d30 her

fickle echo
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And for auxiliaries it's just something that gives evasion+air gasoline

valid oxide
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Should I just go back to my hiryuu flag stall fleet but with fdg this time

little bobcat
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hiryuu hits like a wet noodle so

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if you want

fickle echo
valid oxide
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I'm one rainbow away from one noooo

fickle echo
candid sluice
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gonna be honest warkai is dogpiss

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better if use a carrier

zenith lantern
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I’m actually running Hiryuu comp again. It still works but I have to admit 3BB does feel better these days. Better than running Warkai though for sure. Warkai is useless unless you’re also running Vanguard you need both to get the early backline kill.

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My Hiryuu fleet anyway

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I’m not a Flapjack believer but you can run it if you like

floral wave
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maNJuu MutsukiHyperStare

zenith lantern
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yup, still the best place to put it

floral wave
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i guess if your ancho is never in danger of dying

zenith lantern
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Oh she dies. So does theirs.

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When both vanguards are dead your double invun wins the backline duel every time

stable dawn
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your anchorage dies???

zenith lantern
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When she's got 3 battleships shelling her she goes down eventually. Still lives long enough to get the job done.

empty mesa
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Washi player learning about servers with actual defense fleets.

floral wave
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btw, sexybofors vs 57 juneau?

zenith lantern
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They're pretty close in performance, either is fine.

stable dawn
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iirc sex is better if you only hit a plane once, but 57 is better dps overall

zenith lantern
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yeah pretty much depends how many times you get to fire but ti's a small difference either way so you probably wouldn't be able to notice

stable dawn
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@floral wave also you gave me a really dumb idea

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You're welcome

floral wave
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lmao

winged depot
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nice

neon bronze
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crafting in azur lane

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once NJ reruns, i'll be prime HyMEN believer for a while

candid sluice
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blacktorp juneau is crazy

floral wave
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hold your horses, theres a ur event right around the corner

stable dawn
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watch it be a submarine

floral wave
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fuck off MutsukiHyperStare

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its surely laffey2 that will powercreep shima

neon bronze
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i wanna have 2nd black torp...

floral wave
neon bronze
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too bad Monarch_Depressed

floral wave
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shouldve grinded more during rerun

stable dawn
floral wave
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what if its so good that its useful in pvp

neon bronze
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Will give you instant AotN EoS

floral wave
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or just the gun is so good then it goes on harbin EntyLUL

candid sluice
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nah thats going on nj secondary

stable dawn
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obvs since it's a DD gun, you use it on NJ for maximum fleet power

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smh got sniped by salty

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time to commit sudoku

zenith lantern
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I’m hoping for a UR manjuu so we can finally put to bed the manjuu Ancho vs Manjuu NJ debate and run it on both

stable dawn
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but which one would get the UR manjuu?

neon bronze
clever moon
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some of u acc wanna watch the world burn EntyLaugh

neon bronze
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@zenith lantern why not Angel's Feather om Hiryuu?

zenith lantern
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No room, that’s the only slot available for Beaver

neon bronze
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:ok

neon bronze
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based or insane?

empty mesa
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Not even oathed. 🚮

stable dawn
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oh yeah QE has a blu-ray skin now

rustic bridge
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AkagiRage i need a anti anti enty nuke

neon bronze
rustic bridge
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enty is evil op

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she die is good

trail temple
neon bronze
sweet relic
brazen socket
lusty hill
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UR manjuu will be the next rainbow gear from research, it can be used by any faction and no limit in pvp

delicate egret
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I forgot to attack before maint YorkBruh

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there goes the season Glowow

floral wave
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5 not a big deal

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and its still early season

candid sluice
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UR manju will obv go on shima so she can do another toro launch

lusty hill
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UR manjuu can be equiped by everyone except shimakaze

stable dawn
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UR manjuu deletes exercises from the battle menu UI, permanently freeing you from the suffering that is pvp

trail temple
neon bronze
brazen socket
neon bronze
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it is what it is

candid sluice
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ah yes the one cube every 3 weeks

lusty hill
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pvp will be deleted but merit will be generated in academy like coins and oil

fickle echo
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Just generate Bulins and cubes in the academy instead ShiSleep

rustic bridge
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......

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Why only on to strongplayers

ocean prairie
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What planes do shina/haku want for pvp?

hollow walrus
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double TB usually

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actually I guess only Shina is relevant

fickle echo
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Don't use Haku in pvp, Hiryuu is better

candid sluice
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check pin

neon bronze
ocean prairie
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I don’t have any wyverns

lusty hill
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Breguet

neon bronze
ocean prairie
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And I only have one of those

neon bronze
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What BBs do you have rn

fickle echo
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Just use BBs instead

ocean prairie
neon bronze
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Neat-o. Got a 457, 410kai, and a 406mk4?

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Can run

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Stepmom (Musashi - NJ - Vanguard)

ocean prairie
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I’m pretty poor when it comes to BB guns

neon bronze
ocean prairie
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You mean these 2?

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It’s gonna be a good while before I craft ‘em

lunar turret
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Are the ddg good in PvP

neon bronze
rustic bridge
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i need anti enty gear

whole salmon
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Today is the 1 year mark since the complain streak began and it hasn’t stopped

neon bronze
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wait

rustic bridge
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wut2e enty is impossible to kill

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i need anti enty gear

fickle echo
rustic bridge
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fuck enties live dead

lusty hill
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he's been doing it for a year MutsukiHyperStare

rustic bridge
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I where enty kill when a time say yes

late knot
neon bronze
rustic bridge
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BuckyPrideZoom can i win

rustic bridge
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10/ 10 lose CleveDerp JeanDead

valid oxide
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Its because you are using Wichita tank, ply better BuckyPrideZoom

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Esp when oathed (which you should totally do btw)

rustic bridge
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BuckyPrideZoom wichita is red red is evil

lusty hill
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Using evil ship to scare of opponents Glowow

stable dawn
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then why do kms fleets have such low winrates

fickle echo
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KMS ships aren't evil, they're just too tsundere to admit they like the ships from other factions HipperMad

trail temple
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You're right, KMS ships aren't inherently evil. They're just trash outside of a couple of exceptions

lusty hill
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Should I use quint mag on harbin if I don't have another black mag or should I keep using British torps?

rustic bridge
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And my Wichita has great gear

fickle echo
lusty hill
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ok then

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the zoom zoom aux unironically make all my torps miss Ehhssex

fickle echo
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Skill issue ShiSleep

stable dawn
lusty hill
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they should add UR black mag that makes all torps magnetic and remove travel limit

candid sluice
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yea they should make a ur gear for every little inconvenience in this game

stable dawn
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they should add a white torp.
We already have black torp and black shell.
We have white shell but no white torp.

fickle echo
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Yellow torp with crit damage boost to HMS only JavHeh

stable dawn
uncut agate
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torp that decrease travel distance

stable dawn
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double white torp meta when

fickle echo
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We'll need to ask someone how white torps work first NJerseyStare

stable dawn
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I'm not sure anyone knows how white torp works

floral wave
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beats the black torp of course

neon bronze
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are you sure?

rustic bridge
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wut2e can i win

neon bronze
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Yes

rustic bridge
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JeanDead lose musashi easy ägire not

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I need Ur gears

arctic ermine
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Are the pvp tier list fleets also used for defense or is there a different tier list for defense?

uncut agate
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defence is irrelevant so no tierlist

candid sluice
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its only for attack

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u can just use your attack fleet for defense it doesnt really matter

stable dawn
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defense is a factor in higher tiered fleets but for the most part we judge primarily on attack effectiveness

languid pecan
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How good is this? I don't have enough general parts to +10 everything

fickle echo
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UvH MutsukiHyperStare

fickle echo
languid pecan
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Nope, this is all I have

rustic bridge
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9/10 games lose good day for me

fickle echo
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You should level up Hiryuu to replace Enty later, then you can use her with Independence and Musashi and it should be better than anything with UvH since you don't have a 3rd UR BB to make UVH work

rustic bridge
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OwariWOKE Remove enty now

valid oxide
worldly juniper
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If vanguard is drake Plymouth Cheshire, who should i replace with harbin

valid oxide
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Everyone there wants replaced

worldly juniper
floral wave
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just put her in

worldly juniper
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I p much only use ships i like so i do not have ancho leveled or a juneau

floral wave
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then you replace the one you like the least

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and dont expect to win anything

worldly juniper
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Ah kk

floral wave
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i mean youre still gonna win sometimes because attacker advantage and waifu def fleets

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but in reality it doesnt matter which one youll replace

valid oxide
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I'd argue chesh probably has least contribution

worldly juniper
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Tho i do just sit in seaman rank or whatever so like most high-lvl fleets are just enty nj which are p easy to beat

unkempt sentinel
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Well alrighty then... I just got melted by a fleet of just NJ and Anchorage, i had a feeling i was going into a trap... But i thought "it's just two ships, how hard can it be?"

Turns out VERY

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Any explanation?

neon bronze
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fleet do be like that

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especially with a beginner's fleet

unkempt sentinel
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I knew i was fucked as soon as I noticed i wasn't laying ANY damage on their anch

neon bronze
unkempt sentinel
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I'm not really a beginner... Tho this is the first time in a while I've been trying to improve my competitive play

neon bronze
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What was the fleet you used?

unkempt sentinel
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No judgement? I've been pretty much flip flopping through ships i have, trying to base my fleet off of skills and stats... But it's still feels like I'm blind

unkempt sentinel
winged depot
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level gaps are huge in pvp my guy

unkempt sentinel
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So in other words, my first BIG priority is max lvlng

neon bronze
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Yes

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Show your dock and we can tell you who to get or level up

winged depot
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looks like it if you lose to a 1:1 fleet

unkempt sentinel
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Even if it was NJ and anch maxxd?

winged depot
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that's literally 2 ships in the meta

unkempt sentinel
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That's everything excluding rares and commons

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And lvl 1s

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Well if excluding most lvl1s

stable dawn
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max out musashi ASAP

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she's god tier in the current meta

unkempt sentinel
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Whatever changes i make we won't know how they'll work until reset, that 1:1 was my last attempt

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I knew that, i just was tinkering with other ships.

stable dawn
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hmm, you got an FdG too

winged depot
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I can assume you can research anchorage since I see you have georgia

stable dawn
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I should update the sheet to include Aldarn's budget HYMEN fleet

unkempt sentinel
stable dawn
winged depot
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fdg, musashi and aquila is a good backline

unkempt sentinel
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She is on my "should research" but rn I'm halfway into drake

neon bronze
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And New Jersey will rerun this year. Now you can probably use her too

unkempt sentinel
stable dawn
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aquila is dead, she doesn't have enough sustain against MSN, HYMEN, and even triple BB

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usually she launches her preload then dies ~10s afterward

winged depot
unkempt sentinel
neon bronze
winged depot
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get JuneauChrist

unkempt sentinel
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Stuck in the air forever, does damage, dies

stable dawn
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pharah players

unkempt sentinel
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I tried using meta Ari as a sort of defense, cus i thought maybe that "DONT TOUCH MY BABIES" skill could be used like that

neon bronze
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Defense fleet does not matter tbh

stable dawn
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@fickle echo You have a META version now????

neon bronze
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You could run anyone there

unkempt sentinel
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And when everyone meta

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No one will be

fickle echo
unkempt sentinel
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Sorry had to make a joke

neon bronze
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Based newbie

winged depot
neon bronze
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You have promise

unkempt sentinel
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3 years playing and i still feel like a newbie

stable dawn
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3 years and no 125 ships???

candid sluice
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dude talking like he aint one himself

stable dawn
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how far into the base campaign are you

unkempt sentinel
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Just got to 12 the other day

stable dawn
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okay you're at least further than MK

unkempt sentinel
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Pain

candid sluice
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probably just a casul ship enjoyer

unkempt sentinel
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Very much so. I like naval history

candid sluice
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nothing wrong with that

stable dawn
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11-1 is the best spot for leveling. 12-4 is a good spot for higher leveling and gold. But every X-4 map after 12-4 is better for gold

neon bronze
stable dawn
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he stopped at 10-2 iirc

unkempt sentinel
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I'm also... I'm... Well when people say "playing the meta" i get very anxious because i don't want to just copy others

stable dawn
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tbf meta really doesn't matter until you get to super high ranks lmao

stable dawn
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at your stage in AL, you're better off just using exercises as free EXP

winged depot
neon bronze
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And Merits for the bulins and the occasional cube.

unkempt sentinel
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Like my favorite ship girls are Arizona, Prinz Heinrich, and U110.

Ari because she's a adorable woobie and irl my great-great granduncle was... Forcefully buried in her.

Hein because design and she's a genki-girl

U110 cus she's a funny garlic shark

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Sucks that most of them aren't "the best" but i don't really play this game to be the best, just to get the most out of it

stable dawn
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tbf AL is not a pvp game

unkempt sentinel
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Sorry, i know this isn't really related to pvp

stable dawn
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exercises are literally an afterthought

winged depot
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ded gaem mode

stable dawn
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you can tell because they run random hotfixes right before pvp resets and it screws over baggers

unkempt sentinel
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Baggers?

stable dawn
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it's a long tale, I'll tell you if you seriously invest into pvp

unkempt sentinel
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Also as a casual player, i get frustrated when more experienced players throw the literal guideBOOK at me. I find it's content extremely helpful, but i don't want to sweat swamp

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No offense to anyone

stable dawn
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pvp is a niche gamemode and there's really a lot of weird interwoven mechanics

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so it's hard to explain because where do you start???

unkempt sentinel
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What's weird to me is for a "pvp" mode it forces control away from the player

stable dawn
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it's basically AL autochess

lusty hill
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I waited someone too long to move now I overcap 1 attempt BelCry

stable dawn
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who were you waiting on

lusty hill
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I forgot but they stalled me with their mid fleet that has shimakaze

stable dawn
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that's literally 80% of your server so

neon bronze
unkempt sentinel
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So about me not having fully capped ships... I tend to forget about cog. Awk as i continue to use certain ships and once i do... HO BOI

stable dawn
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the later maps drop tons of gold

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12-4 gives around 2.2k per run

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13-4 gives around 2.4k

unkempt sentinel
stable dawn
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and 14-4 gives a whopping 2.8k

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let me see if I can find the graph

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wait that was the EXP one

unkempt sentinel
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Wait so 11-2 is good for XP and oil?

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Wait that's probably XP PER oil use XD

stable dawn
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nah, W11 has terrible gold droprate in comparison

unkempt sentinel
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But XP?

stable dawn
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11-1 is best for EXP yeah

unkempt sentinel
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Good for me

stable dawn
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usually I dorm/book ships to 100 then just run them through 11-1 until 110-115ish

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and from there move on to harder maps

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although sometimes I'm turbo lazy and just stay in 11-1

unkempt sentinel
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As someone who's more into the events than campaign, im fine with 11-1

stable dawn
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but yeah for you, it's best to focus on mastering the base game first before really caring about pvp winrates and all that

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most of the top pvp players are just old players who have nothing else left to do in the game. They can blow up harbiter with their eyes closed.

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And events aren't running constantly

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so, what else is there to play? Might as well pvp

unkempt sentinel
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There's OpSi

stable dawn
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You can exhaust OpSi resources

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the shop has a limited stock per month and eventually you run out of AP and coordinates

unkempt sentinel
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Fair

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Okay so say im not confident in grinding for gold on 12 or higher... Where else?

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Considering i just got to 12

stable dawn
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spam 11-1 until you have enough ships that can

neon bronze
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Highest stage you could consistently do

unkempt sentinel
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Looks like I'll be reverting my fleets... AGAIN... Sigh.

I had them set up for 12 but honestly the way they are set up they are just barely claiming ws in 12-1

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Tho if my goal rn is to simply max out my ships...

stable dawn
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gph MutsukiHyperStare

unkempt sentinel
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Gph?

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Huh?

stable dawn
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@pseudo copper are you willing to enlighten this poor soul? Show him the true endgane? Blessex

pseudo copper
unkempt sentinel
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Haven't really ever complained about lack of chips... More like i have more chips than gold at any one time XD

pseudo copper
unkempt sentinel
pseudo copper
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27k is just 13 SR or so Sleepnano

unkempt sentinel
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Sr as in the rarity?

pseudo copper
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Yes

stable dawn
pseudo copper
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That depends on which site they use for images tbh

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But pixiv is a good place to start

unkempt sentinel
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Still have no clue what gph is

stable dawn
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#gameplay-hell

unkempt sentinel
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Oh Lord, there's a story behind that i imagine

stable dawn
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you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy

neon bronze
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Getting Help Banned role is the cure

pseudo copper
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Beth gph ban soon? PauseChamp

neon bronze
unkempt sentinel
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There's been times i feel I've been helped, and other times ||i feel like some of the people helping me just want me to play the game a certain way||

stable dawn
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the problem is gph blindly parrots things they don't understand and when more experienced players call them out on it, a dispute happens and they often end up banned from the channel

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it ends up making a lot of people like me just never visit gph

candid sluice
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going to that channel is the opposite of help

pseudo copper
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You don't like advice of using CB or Eugen in pvp?

stable dawn
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💀

unkempt sentinel
stable dawn
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Eugen hasn't been relevant since 2019

candid sluice
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calling her below average would be too nice

unkempt sentinel
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I mean thats what I've been told, I've been using Hein, roon and most recently Agir as my fav tank

stable dawn
neon bronze
fickle echo
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Eugen clones being better than her BacheLaugh

unkempt sentinel
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Since gph also said RF was bad, i have to get outside opinions on her

lusty hill
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RF is good if you want to beat the weekly subs raid

unkempt sentinel
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O think her skill set is pretty neat

lusty hill
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yeah she's actually pretty decent vs light armor enemy but her survivability on hard content is pretty cringe

pseudo copper
unkempt sentinel
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Who's CB again?

valid oxide
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CB is just large cruiser

unkempt sentinel
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Ah okay, i knew that i thought you were referring to a specific ship XD

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So wait... Isn't Agir a cb?

neon bronze
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She is

unkempt sentinel
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Not good in pvp?

fickle echo
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Usable at least

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But it's only worth if you have Seydlitz

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Even so Agir's slow doesn't do anything against any properly geared vanguard with Harbin DunktsukiStare

valid oxide
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Do agirs torps apply slow if the ship evades them? (Miss shows up)

neon bronze
#

iirc, no

#

Anchorage biggest offender

fickle echo
#

They need to hit for the slow to work and if the ship evades it isn't a hit

#

Even against Anchorage the slow still works if it hits the other 2 ships

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But if the other 2 ships are Shima and Harbin the chance of they hitting is almost 0

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Harbin has high evasion for a CL and DDs have natural high evasion

valid oxide
#

Is it possible to stagger Harbin/ancho torps to have 11 sec smokescreen on second launch Thinkpitz

fickle echo
unkempt sentinel
#

So where it says "high caliber" exactly what does that mean XD

valid oxide
#

It means CB guns

unkempt sentinel
#

So this?

valid oxide
#

Yes that counts for her skill

unkempt sentinel
#

Excellent

#

Also forgot to send you a friend request because your one of the few who's actually been real nice to me

#

Okay let's say i wanna have Agir as the tank in a fleet, not for pvp, more for general use.

Who should I pair her with?

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@neon bronze don't u complain I'll send u one too ^^

valid oxide
#

General use as in opsi or just campaign BuckyPrideZoom

neon bronze
unkempt sentinel
#

Eh, well... Let's go with campaign because technically i already have her in a OpSi fleet

valid oxide
#

What world then

unkempt sentinel
#

Let's go with 11-1

valid oxide
#

11-1 can be beaten by overlevelled ships so it doesn't matter ShiSleep

unkempt sentinel
#

Fair

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Look gph has made me overly paranoid about efficiency XD

valid oxide
#

11-1 can be beaten by underleveled shitters when it's on safe BuckyPrideZoom

unkempt sentinel
#

Lol, brb, gotta take a walk

lusty hill
#

can I still get t10 eos UniFlox

neon bronze
#

Maybe

lusty hill
#

please no shimakaze Blessex

candid sluice
#

possible if u pick up a few more bonuses on the climb

rustic bridge
#

pvp is to hard too manny enties

uncut agate
#

Give up LilEnty

rustic bridge
#

AkagiRage never i will enty blood see

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die die die die die enty

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2 wins perfekt day for pvp

vital fractal
#

Which one is better?(for Roon).

rustic bridge
#

roon love ap

vital fractal
#

Thanks 🫶

valid oxide
#

Roon just wants the one with the highest raw damage

little bobcat
#

base 203mm kinda sucks

vital fractal
#

Are you sure?

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@little bobcat

little bobcat
#

ye

vital fractal
#

@little bobcat Thanks,I will try

hollow walrus
#

Especially with her ammo changing skill

little bobcat
#

cheshy still better afaik

#

can test

trail temple
stable dawn
lusty hill
trail temple
#

Just get lucky

lusty hill
#

do I really have to dm people and ask them to move to get bonus on every attempts

trail temple
#

Oh and don't lose/overcap

lusty hill
#

if pvp is based on luck how come the t10 is always the same group of people

stable dawn
#

they have shimakaze

trail temple
#

Oh and doing a Kenny doesn't work as much as you think it would. It just pisses people off

#

Also kinda shameless

lusty hill
#

theoretically there should be a noob like me who get to t10 by sheer luck

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or the t10 should be randomized among all pro player

stable dawn
#

if you were that lucky, you'd have shima

lusty hill
#

They should rework the score and bonus system to not be based on luck

#

You get bonus from fighting a stronger fleet, make fleet power relevant

stable dawn
#

they should remove pvp from the game

neon bronze
#

Try waiting instead.

#

Besides, some baggers move earlier before reset because of various reasons. Try taking advantage of that

stable dawn
#

pvp is dead

neon bronze
#

huh

stable dawn
#

there is only cOMEGALULllusion

neon bronze
#

pretty sure it'd be among themselves now

stable dawn
neon bronze
#

not in collusion group Sadge

stable dawn
#

would you like to become an agent?

neon bronze
#

oh well, just need to do my shit

stable dawn
neon bronze
stable dawn
#

because I heard all you need to do is present yourself to their leader

#

Rumi

neon bronze
candid sluice
#

Just join the agency free top10 finish

candid olive
#

"Cuz I-I-I Waaant it... thaaat way!"

#

LOL, this community is doomed!

lusty hill
#

what song is that

winged depot
#

some old song

#

backstreet boys or something

lusty hill
#

guess that makes me a zoomer

neon bronze
# lusty hill guess that makes me a zoomer

Yeah
You are my fire
The one desire
Believe when I say
I want it that way

But we are two worlds apart
Can't reach to your heart
When you say
That I want it that way

Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a heartache
Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a mistake
Tell me why
I never want to hear you say
I want it that way

hollow walrus
#

I feel old knowing there are people who don't know backstreet boys

stable dawn
lusty hill
#

they probably not that popular in my country

winged depot
#

not too late to listen to something great

lusty hill
#

I see they're like american kpop very cool

winged depot
#

the og boyband

candid sluice
#

how old do u have to be to not know i want it that way 💀

lusty hill
#

well they're not popular in my country so

candid sluice
#

i live in the same country as you

winged depot
#

I'm in your walls

lusty hill
glass jolt
rustic bridge
#

AkagiRage enty DIE

honest moon
#

Is there any instance where fdg/musashi/NJ can ignore carrier detection meter and do direct dmg onto undetected carriers?

stable dawn
#

could be barrage/AoE damage

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an untargeted barrage like richelieu's will hit pretty much everything but won't reveal unless burn proc is inflicted

honest moon
#

Untargetted barrage can hit undetected...?

stable dawn
#

some can, most can't

honest moon
#

Fdg/nj/musashi?

#

I run double plane comp against same triple bb comp one match earlier, and both cvs remain at full health.

Next person i fight using same triple bb comp gives the low health warning

#

Hacks?!?

winged depot
#

musashi slash can damage a unrevealed cv. fdg barrage

stable dawn
honest moon
#

Washington

stable dawn
#

yeah your server is full of hackers

#

pretty much all top players hack, especially that NoobAsian guy

#

@trail temple

trail temple
stable dawn
honest moon
honest moon
stable dawn
#

just how the game works I guess

neon bronze
#

what is washington

steel coral
candid sluice
#

i think its the capitol of south america

trail temple
winged depot
#

the home of @stable dawn

stable dawn
whole salmon
#

If it has a fixed position and long enough range to reach the backline

#

It can hit without targeting

#

It was already used back then during the Richelieu FDG comps to use their fixed barrage to hit concealed CVs then use the burn damage to spot them

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Ofc, Musashi’s slash attack could do something similar

knotty kindle
#

question what is the best 3x cv comp?

little bobcat
#

there aren't any unique 3cv comps

#

but the only one i've heard people talk about without recoiling is shinano akaga

knotty kindle
#

Shinaryū-Impy is kinda cracked

little bobcat
#

impy is dogshit in pvp

stable dawn
knotty kindle
#

hard counters ancho tho

little bobcat
little bobcat
#

if impy hard countered anchorage we'd all be using her

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hard countering anchorage is called not having a bad vanguard

knotty kindle
little bobcat
#

aurora reduces the eva of all dds and cls by 20%

#

do you see us using her to hard counter shima and harbin

knotty kindle
#

Impy's freeze + Shinano's ryūsei instantly deletes ancho as long as she doesn't have the manjū

little bobcat
#

any competent pvp fleet uses manjuu lmao

winged depot
#

assuming if they live the first set of barrages

knotty kindle
little bobcat
#

if you're fighting non-manjuu anchorage you're immediately just fighting a bad fleet

#

unless it's manjuu nj

#

then they're just based

knotty kindle
#

Impy is still underrated tho¨

knotty kindle
little bobcat
#

i could test her right now

winged depot
#

lel

little bobcat
#

but i know full ell she'll just be worse than shinano

#

and any dmg cv besides shinano is pretty ShiSleep

#

hiryuu is used for stall and aquila is used to reveal

neon bronze
#

Manjuu E so good. Overcapped one match because of Manjuu Enty.

knotty kindle
#

Aquila is legit the only cv who's better than Mommy nano

little bobcat
#

oh also was that one indep fleet on the tl tested more

little bobcat
knotty kindle
little bobcat
winged depot
#

no, enty is so good she is undefeatable against saltybelfast (the goat)

stable dawn
little bobcat
#

yeah it really is LOL

winged depot
knotty kindle
#

unpopular opinion #banMusashi

little bobcat
#

unpopular opinion ddgs are viable in pvp

knotty kindle
little bobcat
#

for juneau slot

#

but harbin is only good because of torps and smokescreen lmao

winged depot
#

lmfao

little bobcat
#

i think ddg would just die immediately

knotty kindle
#

Is harb better than Noteshiro ?

little bobcat
#

yes

#

for both middle torp slot and off tank dps slot

knotty kindle
#

mby I should go for her... I had very low expectations on her cuz she's chinese...

little bobcat
#

she's literally the 2nd best cl in the entire game

knotty kindle
little bobcat
#

in pvp or pve

#

lmfao

#

in both harbin beats juneau anyways

#

juneau sucks in pve and in pvp you really wanna just maximize aggro with how dominant triple bb is rn

knotty kindle
#

or Plym?

little bobcat
#

in pvp she's best cl

#

in pve she's 2wnd best cl

#

duca and plymouth are shit in pvp

neon bronze
#

pretty sad

knotty kindle
#

understandabile

little bobcat
#

duca was only used to proc more faction stuff on vittorio

#

and plymouth is uh

#

idk why she's used

#

some people think she's good as a buffer and does good dmg or something idk

#

but i've never fought a good plymouth fleet

neon bronze
#

Buffing Musashi flag. That's all there is for Plymouth there

stable dawn
#

no, duca's skill also made her torps last longer so you could legit do some serious backline sniping with her

little bobcat
#

doesn't she just die before musashi gets a salvo off

knotty kindle
#

question, How broken would Shinano be with a prld?

little bobcat
#

just casually 1shotting shinano

stable dawn
knotty kindle
little bobcat
#

maybe ill test vv triple bb NepSmug

stable dawn
#

probs not viable anymore due to slash augments

#

as beth said

knotty kindle
little bobcat
#

prob

little bobcat
stable dawn
#

damage

knotty kindle
hollow walrus
#

isn't nano also slow

little bobcat
#

a.) being a cv in current pvp meta
b.) high investment requirements to be competent
c.) really slow load times

knotty kindle
little bobcat
knotty kindle
#

Y

little bobcat
#

you would fit more there

neon bronze
little bobcat
#

ig yea

#

doesn't she have fdg's ehp

#

approx

stable dawn
#

yeeee

#

nano's DR is pretty nuts

#

it's why you usually pair her with WNT

#

ultra thicc

little bobcat
#

has anyone tested tamaki more

#

aldarn's been vouching her

stable dawn
#

Ari said she was really strong actually

neon bronze
#

Ari also used her in Lil Enty

little bobcat
#

yea i've been hearing abt it

#

seems like she'll be pretty interesting

stable dawn
#

Lil E meta will probably become FdG NJ Tamaki eventually

#

until Musashi rerun

neon bronze
#

今回のコラボ復刻追加艦たまき&ルナは演習向きの性能があります。
ともに巡戦・軽空母ではありますが戦艦・正規空母と比較しても遜色ありません。
さらに敵前衛に対して強く出れる点も演習向きと言えます。
高い幸運と高い命中も格別で、専用特殊装備も通常艦に配られる物とは一線を画した優秀さがあります。

最近のコラボ艦は性能もちゃんと伴ってきていますね。

ただたまきの声まだ搭載されとらん…
QEmeta共々忘れないでな

さて今回のマッチングは奇跡と言って良い都合の良さw
たまきは虹本で急造しましたが、
ルナの方はゆっくり育成中なのでそのうち使ってみようと思ってたのですが
まさかたまき最速完成直後に真面目に組み込んでる編成に出会ってしまうとは…

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little bobcat
#

or maybe the new UR if she ends up being an IB buffer

stable dawn
#

watch her be a sub

little bobcat
#

nah she's def an actual ship

#

we've seen her silhouette

#

big rigging

#

people are saying bismarck 2 but i doubt it

stable dawn
#

tbh it looks kind of like GZ to me

little bobcat
#

but ib seems to focus a lot on faction buffs

#

so i wouldn't be surprised if it's the prime faction buffer for kms

neon bronze
#

3 BB comps eating good these times peepoHappy

stable dawn
#

IB is a minor faction tho so that means we'll probs get a KMS ver. of HMS Vanguard

little bobcat
#

what's uvh's role in triple bb btw

stable dawn
#

she's not that good in pvp

little bobcat
#

her triple bb fleet is t1 so i was wondering if she's just a dead slot or if she had some specific use

neon bronze
#

Copium BB

stable dawn
#

I mean, she has good base stats

#

that's why the comp is there lol

little bobcat
#

ah

#

funny how every ur bb is viable in pvp except uvh

stable dawn
#

uvh banished to opsi forever

fickle echo
little bobcat
#

oh wtf does she use an he gun

#

or is her barrage just strong he

#

chad cn tech HE gun uvh

fickle echo
stable dawn
#

use battle tractor

little bobcat
#

kind of

stable dawn
little bobcat
#

not in a while

#

oh wtf

#

that's funny

stable dawn
#

did they ever fix her reduced damage stacking with the pvp DR?

#

💀

neon bronze
#

who's UvH?

little bobcat
#

uFriedrich vder hGrosse

neon bronze
stable dawn
neon bronze
#

I blame a supertyphoon for that.

old nimbus
#

Is it natural to actually raise your rank past 5k? Usually I can get to top 300 easily but now it's a struggle

#

And it's not like I pick easy fights, I always fight furthest left options

warm crow
#

youre probably overcapping

#

there are three restocks per day (15 attempts per day), so if youre missing even one set per day then you probably wont get to top 100

rustic bridge
#

LilEnty PvP Time

lusty hill
#

Brest MutsukiHyperStare

rustic bridge
#

AkashiHide why not

#

BuckyPride Test in this gears

lusty hill
#

why don't you raise the skill

rustic bridge
#

No Skill books

lusty hill
rustic bridge
#

I hate entys

old nimbus
# rustic bridge I hate entys

When they proc there skill 3 times back to back and your anchorage sipping on the fattest jug of copium with hide and seek

rustic bridge
#

wut2e what a achnorage

floral wave
old nimbus
#

It happened to me yesterday

#

It was a very sad day

floral wave
#

may i interest you in using backline ships

#

or backline ships that arent akashi/vestal

rustic bridge
#

LilEnty i need only better Gear rng

old nimbus
#

Yeah I'll use them in the next exercise when they haven't been sunk NecoArc

rustic bridge
#

Realy how usless is Brest ..... Self my lv 1 hipper is a better Tank

candid sluice
#

youre using her in pvp bro mutsuki would make for a better tank

rustic bridge
candid sluice
#

anchorag

old nimbus
#

Yeah what he said ^

candid olive
rustic bridge
candid sluice
rigid scarab
#

I don’t think I’m to good at managing their levels

neon bronze
#

if there are survivability issues, use a healer in that team too

lusty hill
honest moon
#

Somebody send a sandy meme when anyone posts a number 1 screenshot

queen dew
#

how come rank won't go up? stuck at captain, did anybody else face this problem?

pseudo copper
#

Past captain you need rank + score

queen dew
#

it says 1000 but even if i do battles and win it won't go up

pseudo copper
#

There are 15 exercises a day, so don't miss em

queen dew
#

i do all battles in a day

pseudo copper
#

You need to start from season start

#

Which is next monday, missing exercises means you'll be behind

queen dew
#

i usually do exercises as soon my rank is reset to petty officer, since i log every day and do all exercises

#

but still stuck there at captain rank

hollow walrus
#

ranks above captain need to be top 1000

queen dew
#

i'm aware but even if i win and play everyday all exercises it won't go past that

hollow walrus
valid oxide
#

overcap and lose BuckyPrideZoom

queen dew
#

says rank 1000 but nothing change after i reach captain every season, it stuck there

#

might be a curse

hollow walrus
#

do you have like a pic of what it says

queen dew
#

1 sec

floral wave
#

if you do all 15 every day since the season start and dont lose any battles its impossible to stay above rank 1k

queen dew
#

U mean this right?

floral wave
#

whats your rank and points

#

currently

#

points = seasonal

queen dew
floral wave
#

with how many attempts left currently, 0/10?

queen dew
#

yes

hollow walrus
#

are you top 1000 rn

floral wave
#

you missed a shitton of exercises

#

or lost

#

which is exactly the same

queen dew
#

weird i usually do everytime i log, u think it's that?

hollow walrus
#

also 1382? Yeah this season is like at 1900s already so you lost a lot

floral wave
#

you get attempts 3 times a day

#

3x5

queen dew
#

i usually do 15 attempts a day

#

and i win, well not 100% of the times but i usually do win

floral wave
#

well its impossible

hollow walrus
#

Yeah and you don't get points if you lose

#

1382 is pretty low this late into the season

queen dew
#

thought it was a fleet problem or something, i might have missed some attempts maybe

#

i'll be more careful next reset

#

thanks for the help DorkHeart

floral wave
#

im at 1324 points right now and i havent done ANY pvp in 5 or 6 days

queen dew
#

might have fr missed some even if usually i do all of them, can't be otherwise, or else it can't be explained

floral wave
#

you must have missed/lost exercises

#

thats the only explanation

#

and thats why you cant go past captain

#

because you cant reach rank 1k

queen dew
#

i'll see next reset, and if i find the same problem cause this thing of not going past captain happening since so long but never asked

hollow walrus
#

AotN is top 10 right?

floral wave
#

yes

hollow walrus
#

Hmm I'm close then

floral wave
#

just wait for the reset that will net you 2.2k points breakpoint and rush exercises right after reset

#

and if youre missing points to get into top 10 just try later resets

#

a lot of people stop caring after they get aotn for the season

little bobcat
#

im at like 1400 and i literally stopped doing exercises 5 days ago

queen dew
#

AgirComfy i'll for sure try that thanks

#

i had to ask after so long i was stuck

floral wave
#

youre surely missing resets

queen dew
#

so i can leave it be until the reset

#

since it's useless doing it now if i got it correct

floral wave
#

because even with super fast rushing every reset your points wouldnt be that low at this point into the season

rustic bridge
#

Enty die die

floral wave
#

well you still get merit for battles if you care about that

#

or exp

queen dew
#

yeah well i might do it just for that since i spend all of them, now i wait next reset and see

hollow walrus
#

I almost missed out on some resets but I at least secured the rank just below AoTN

queen dew
#

hopefully i can solve it

floral wave
#

you should be fine for aotn

#

is that 0/10?

hollow walrus
pseudo copper
floral wave
#

yeah should be good for aotn

#

if not the first 2.2k reset then subsequent ones

queen dew
floral wave
#

if you miss one day its very possible

queen dew
#

i still don't know well how exercise works but this was helpful

hollow walrus
#

you can get above rank 1000 it's possible to miss some

pseudo copper
#

You can miss quite a bit to aotn if bagging, but it's much easier just not to miss any

queen dew
#

i might anyway try harder and do 15/15 so i see if i solve

floral wave
#

gotta figure out resets for your timezone

#

and just dont forget about doing it EntyLUL

queen dew
#

that's not gonna be a real problem, but maybe it happened i missed the second refill of those 5 exercises a day

#

might be that

pseudo copper
#

There are 3 refills a day

floral wave
#

quite possible, since you cant store all 15

queen dew
#

i mean i maybe did just 10 a day for most of the week

#

without noticing

floral wave
#

yeah that sounds possible

queen dew
#

i'll keep this in mind, thanks again for the infos SandyHeart

rustic bridge
#

Can i win he has a Low fleet power BuckyPrideZoom

pseudo copper
#

No

rustic bridge
pseudo copper
#

Rainbow there

little bobcat
#

ryuuhou heal azuma

#

and musashi rainbow

rustic bridge
#

MutsukiHyperStare now all stronger as me

little bobcat
#

4th fleet ez

rustic bridge
#

And lose on this guy@little bobcat

little bobcat
#

u bad

#

skill issue

rustic bridge
#

He has enty MutsukiHyperStare

pseudo copper
#

Enty is impossible to beat EssexPoint

hollow walrus
floral wave
pseudo copper
hollow walrus
#

Ah

pseudo copper
#

I could make it more responsive to rank changes, but score highly volatile below 1050 anyways, so no point

rustic bridge
#

I need more fleet Power Blessex

hollow walrus
#

Just hoping I can hit AoTN because I've been avoiding some def fleets at all costs

pseudo copper
rustic bridge
#

I need more luck of Ur gearsJeanDead

floral wave
hollow walrus
#

My fleet is using the budget ships in the guide

rustic bridge
#

Have Not a ships of a guid BuckyPrideZoom

floral wave
#

gear matters a lot tbh

#

because attacker advantage exists you can still beat most meta fleets without a full meta fleet

rustic bridge
#

BuckyPrideZoom kill easy musashi enty is Impossible

#

Fuck OP Lucky e

#

I have this fight lose Lucky e +maju

hollow walrus
#

Here's what I've been running

rustic bridge
#

LouisGun enty die

floral wave
#

idk how you have the mental stamina to keep this going for over a year now

torpid shuttle
#

the big upgrade from ancho harbin juneau is just shima over jun, right

floral wave
#

yeah

#

well shima is an upgrade over anything

hollow walrus
#

Don't you want Harbin Shima for like triple BB or smth

floral wave
#

but depending on your backline youd either swap harbin or juneau for shima, not 100% juneau

rustic bridge
#

Have Harbin use she Not

torpid shuttle
#

hmm, it's just musa shina hiryuu

hollow walrus
#

I should actually level up my Aquila and replace Uni in my fleet

floral wave
#

yeah then you swap harbin

torpid shuttle
#

aight

floral wave
#

unless its lil e server right now

rustic bridge
#

MutsukiHyperStare have where XP Packs

#

And Skill books

hollow walrus
floral wave
#

hopium new UR pvp viable EntyLUL

hollow walrus
#

Yeah most of my BBs are flagship mobbing BBs

rustic bridge
#

Bisco retro BuckyPrideZoom

floral wave
#

fdg could be a pretty big help tbh

rustic bridge
#

My best BB in time Blessex

floral wave
#

but yeah not like its gonna stand up to meta fleets

#

since youre on lexi

#

but since you mentioned aquila

hollow walrus
#

Then again, there are somehow a lot of def fleets that have meta backlines but meme frontlines

floral wave
#

you could do fdg aquila hiryuu

hollow walrus
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Think I've seen someone put their anti-light Opsi fleet in defence

floral wave
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or fdg hiryuu indep

hollow walrus
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I can probably do that since Hiryuu just got 120 while farming Haku xp

floral wave
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ancho juneau for sure

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and third one really depends on what youve got

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ayanami, yukikaze, harbin

hollow walrus
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only got Ayaya

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My fleets would be 100% better if I didn't miss Musashi by 1 week

floral wave
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even that sandy of yours work

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hiryuu is just very strong herself

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doesnt need any exact setup

hollow walrus
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that also requires me to lvl 10 her blue skill

floral wave
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not to mention she provides you with safety because you get guaranteed time to reset in worst case scenario

hollow walrus
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since idk if I actually leveled it up

floral wave
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blue books should be plenty anyway

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but if you dont intend to stop doing pvp anytime soon hiryuu is a solid investment

hollow walrus
floral wave
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eh, yeah i guess

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more survivability for your frontline

neon bronze
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new KMS UR prelim for pvp? PauseChamp

fickle echo
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You should have waited until they've announced her name and asked: "Guys is _ good in pvp?" Smh

lusty hill
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she has preload that has guarantee critical hit and never miss, the damage is 2x if that target is DD and 5x if the target is shimakaze

fickle echo
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Skill name: anti skill issue

stable dawn
candid sluice
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congrats you won pvp

sullen iris
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When do you get 9 pts after battle?

neon bronze
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Someone below you in rank

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May be same score as you, just finished a lil' bit later

sullen iris
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Hmm so the page where I choose the opponent to fight can lie to me even just after I finished the fight before?
At least I think I didn't choose someone below me in rank RichelieuThink

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But maybe I did...me and my goldfish memory
Thx

floral wave
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if youre going to zero attempts and havent missed any exercises in a season it might happen that your leftmost opponent is behind you

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usually happens in when youre around top50 or so