pvp

[floral wave]

as long as it works for you, its fine

just saying that as an example

my point was that fighting same fleet setups but with different gear may yield different results

[merry vale]

^

Good pvp gear on a fleet will perform a lot better, with less rng crits deciding the fight.

If you don't have 100% winrate on everyone your gear could use an upgrade.

[deft escarp]

I have dcp on NJ

356 Kai Musashi just shreds the vanguard and Kicks Anchorage is fast enough to avoid NJ barrage and maybe even avoid some lightning strikes ig

[merry vale]

It's always funny seeing an enemy vanguard crawl like a snail.

Because they lack kicks beaver or boilers.

[deft escarp]

Yeah lmao

My Anchorage lasts even longer than some with dcp because of the evasion and speed

[merry vale]

Kicks + washing machine is really good.

I'm coping without NJ so she's still using manjuu though.

[deft escarp]

Dcp Anchorage would pretty much be a requirement anyways if you're running double CV because you need to win the vg fight

[merry vale]

All of your BB's are super fragile, slow and musashi is using one of her worst pvp guns.

Yes, but you complain about not winning some times due to luck.

It's very much a gear issue not a luck issue.

[candid sluice]

💀💀

Average fleet on sandy

[merry vale]

Because your backline is fragile and slow. And you're not even using anti torp bulge or the full team heal from juneau.

[candid sluice]

How long are your matches with 20sec guns and no hpfcr

And quint 610 shima

[merry vale]

You want washing machine+ Radars on all 3 tbh.

Yikes.

5 min?

Teatorps on shima would help too.

Beaver on musashi, anti torp on plymouth.

[candid sluice]

That’s crazy

[neon bronze]

You can swap New Jersey's Rudder w/ Anchorage's DCP, if you want.
Juneau can get the UR AA gun that your Shimakaze has, currently.
Note: I forgot some of Ancho's gears arent maxed to +13. Do so

[merry vale]

Now that's how you build that fleet.

[candid sluice]

Nice fleet beth

[merry vale]

They're war archive exclusive.

Run polaris dry, im sure you have max keys sitting there.

[neon bronze]

Passionate Polaris War Archive.

[stable dawn]

maybe you got hacked. All the top pvpers are dirty cheaters after all.

[merry vale]

Anyone actually needing to cheat in pvp.

[stable dawn]

I'm sure our resident top cheater @trail temple can attest to it

[merry vale]

There's like legit 0 need to cheat in the first place.

Being under 100% winrate means you're trolling yourself or you're super new to the game.

[deft escarp]

Why 460

With 356 Kai Musashi can trigger barrage more often which shreds vg faster

[merry vale]

Exactly.

356 lets you land 3+ barrages every fight.

The alpha damage on 460 sucks compared to her extra barrage damage.

You can get nearly 2 shots off before one 460 shot fires.

It's not a rng issue if you lose the VG battle with Musashi/NJ/Shima.

[deft escarp]

I forgot to put +13 on Musashi's AA

Nevertheless, that's basically the current state of my fleet

If you don't have Shima then just replace her with Yukikaze, Harbin or whoever fits your team more

Harbin probably the best candidate though

[whole salmon]

Define “perfect”

[merry vale]

Perfect TM

[whole salmon]

Tbh what I consider a good fleet is approximately 70-80% wr against similar level fleet

Due to attacker’s advantage

Eventually you will win

But it wouldn’t take you like 2-5 mins for a fight

[merry vale]

"Perfect" i call 0 resets for an entire season.

[whole salmon]

The 85-90% wr fleets are the top fleets

There’s rarely a 100% wr fleet against similar tier cus Shima and BB rng always happen

Eventually you will meet a match where idk enemy Seydlitz 1 shot your NJ from her preload

Or Shima crippling a core

[deft escarp]

How's my fleet?

[whole salmon]

But this tier is good enough for eos

[whole salmon]

While this is when you can kinda start aiming top 1

[whole salmon]

Depends on enhance

But tbh I don’t need to comment on it

You are on Sandy

If you have trouble on Sandy then that’s skill issue

[merry vale]

[deft escarp]

[deft escarp]

I meant gear choices

I'm working on Shinano's planes rn

[merry vale]

Musashi's aux gun isn't amazing.

[deft escarp]

Pearl probably gonna be next to make Shima live longer and then washing machine

[whole salmon]

It’s okay

As in its enough for you to not struggle

At least you shouldn’t struggle

[deft escarp]

I'm also trying to get another Harbin gun for Musashi

[deft escarp]

Yeah

[merry vale]

You could just make the 137 from the gear lab.

It's a better harbin gun.

[deft escarp]

The only time I struggled was against Shima snipe

[merry vale]

https://i.imgur.com/HvgefyC.png

Great gun low reqs.

[whole salmon]

There’s a thing called

Leaving the match then rejoining when RNG isn’t on your side

[merry vale]

You guys reset matches?

[whole salmon]

There’s 3 people I struggle against

I don’t meet them often since I move early tho

[deft escarp]

[merry vale]

Must be Amagi privileges. I think i've seen 0 fleets that need a reset in months.

[merry vale]

The situation given should be super rare though.

Not using evasion on your BB's increases the frequency it happens.

If you're actually losing to rng jank frequently, it's on you.

Matches are kinda consistent once you're gearing your ships properly.

[zenith lantern]

It's like a 0-2 times per season thing though. If you have a fully optimally geared fleet there likely aren't more than 5 players in the server with a fleet that can make you reset, against the average fleet if you have bad rng and they have good rng you still won't need to reset the fight.

[merry vale]

[whole salmon]

Please don’t ignore the part where I said actual good fleets have around 80%+ wr against fleets of similar caliber

Which would translate to roughly 99.5%+ wr against most fleets of the server except for maybe 10 people

[zenith lantern]

until it doesn't work and you resort to blaming rng for losses instead of fixing the problem

[stable dawn]

pvp doesn't require any skill.
It's all luck.

Any login warrior can get #1 by just finishing all their exercises

[merry vale]

Pvp takes luck?

At a certain point luck really doesn't factor into win rate more than half a %, that's the point.

Winning is just the status quo.

[empty mesa]

Pvp isn't about winning tho.

[merry vale]

It needs neither luck nor skill, just reading comprehension and a slice of motivation.

[fickle echo]

Reading comprehension on EN

[stable dawn]

Show your top 1 finishes then

[merry vale]

That's bold assuming i care about eos.

[fickle echo]

Where's your motivation?

[stable dawn]

sounds like you need to be more... motivated.

https://tenor.com/view/vergilsmile-vergil-vergil-dmc-vergil-devil-may-cry-vergil-dmc5-gif-24388059

[merry vale]

Bingo, my motivation isn't there.

That's why i rush.

[floral wave]

[empty mesa]

Luck really matters tho.

[merry vale]

It matters more on movers vs non movers, and less on matchup v matchup.

[empty mesa]

Like using 5 refreshes in a row and getting -1s.

[merry vale]

Week 1 cucking.

At least week 2 people are consistently moving in most sets.

[stable dawn]

how does one get cucked week 1

[merry vale]

No one moves and you lose a lot of otherwise free points.

If you get a good amount of rushers in week 1 you set up a really strong pace.

[empty mesa]

You should try going for EoS once. Maybe it will change your perspective.

[merry vale]

Quite possibly, some day.

[stable dawn]

while true it doesn't actually matter as week 2 is what really decides scores. iirc Reiver entered their 2600 season with 1035 on the 1049 reset

[merry vale]

Yeah for sure, you can nickle and dime out a ton of extra points on week two, usually i rush week two and make other people that care more about eos happy instead.

More time at the top of the ladder for vanity reasons.

[deft escarp]

Luck still plays a lot of factor week 2 chasing eos

You can eat a bunch of -1 and -2 rushing ten minutes before eos or get no minuses

[merry vale]

Luck matters for EoS, but anyone chasing EoS has a team good enough they're not just losing to pvp jank. Hopefully

Luck actually matters way more outside of the pvp match itself.

[empty mesa]

Yeah, that's the point.

[pseudo copper]

Luck is a skill

If you lack luck then you just have skill issues

[merry vale]

[winged depot]

Oh yeah, i'm at 5/10 at that point and sleeping

[cinder wolf]

you bag you lose

[dim portal]

Have no idea what's your ign there but you probably haven't faced a few players with an optimized triple BB yet

[fading mango]

does the rank you have when doing exercises affect how many points you get?

[floral wave]

your opponents points do, which are tied to their rank

you rank affects the base points you get

3rd from the top pin has a table with base scores

[fading mango]

Damn I looked at that for like 2 mins and couldn’t figure that out lmao

So base scr is how many you should get?

[floral wave]

its how many you get for beating an opponent with 1 to min diff amount of points more than you

or 0 to min diff, not sure actually

[neon bronze]

whatsapp notification sound

[floral wave]

if opponent is more points than min diff above you, you get base+1

[candid sluice]

(Base scr) is the points you would normally get for a win and for every (min diff) points your opponent is above you u will get a bonus point

[rustic bridge]

time a New fleet test hope i can on this enty kill

[arctic ermine]

if i lose a match, can i still reach AotN?

[stable dawn]

easily

[rustic bridge]

pvp is salty

[neon bronze]

whatsapp notification sound

[snow ibex]

might be in danger

[tacit fulcrum]

I got aotn with 2 loses

[neon bronze]

omg, it's bucherlord! big fan.

[rustic bridge]

1 win on a New fleet

Yorki Bad

[candid sluice]

maybe if she had more stars she would perform better

[rustic bridge]

no dups

use i Elite hornet instand of yorki

[lusty hill]

my dude have lv105 0lb york2

how do you managed to level her?

[candid sluice]

dorm queen or 10hr comms probs

[rustic bridge]

w8-4

[floral wave]

getting maya so she can shred all enemy planes with new augment?

[neon bronze]

maya has an augment now?

[floral wave]

ye

10% aa eff, 100% aa, dd torp spread, double torp launch

oh and ghost aa gun

[neon bronze]

[floral wave]

you just wait until your meeb gets countered by maya

[neon bronze]

[lusty hill]

Maya aug looks like poverty harbin

[floral wave]

except evasion and smoke

and 2 less speed, altho only 2

and shit torp stat

and being medium armor

[fickle echo]

An IJN ship with shit torp stat

[floral wave]

is it actually shit when compared to other CAs?

very similar to drek

[fickle echo]

It's good for a CA even Ibuki's torp stat isn't that higher

But still much lower than any top DD

[floral wave]

unfortunately still CA

[rustic bridge]

No my flag ship has to low lv für hight worlds

[valid oxide]

[floral wave]

waifu fleet

[gritty quiver]

18k + 17k power

[rustic bridge]

13k Power

[neon bronze]

whatsapp notification sound x 3

[umbral saddle]

is it normal to get 1vs3ed by enterprise
enemy's enty dodged all my attacks and mine didnt

[floral wave]

no, enemy enterprise should be dead or at the point her proc wont matter when she launches

[rustic bridge]

have a enterprise killed

[rustic bridge]

what on this should i yorktown 2 remove she is shit

[frigid hamlet]

[trail temple]

A lot of energy going into low effort shitposting

[winged depot]

[neon bronze]

whatsapp notification sound in 8 minutes

[junior trench]

York 2 shouldn’t be that bad, should she? What gear are you running on her?

[winged depot]

its shit if its SaltyBelfast

[merry vale]

[junior trench]

How bad are we talking?

[winged depot]

10/10

[junior trench]

Like BB Firework gun bad?

[winged depot]

no one knows what goes in the mind of trolls

[merry vale]

Is it really trolling? Bragging about ones own incompetence?

[junior trench]

That sounds like some sort of philosopher quote

[gritty quiver]

is a 357 sushi with hsfcr and autoloader a thing

[untold crater]

Autoloader no

[steel coral]

how else are you gonna beat twin torp lvl 1 red skill ancho

[gritty quiver]

wait is lv1 red skill ancho actually legit

i tot it was a joke

[stable dawn]

It is legitimately superior because there's a higher chance of getting the reload shortening

[gritty quiver]

but the 15% eva tho

i wish i knew earlier before i made it +10

[lusty hill]

are you saying it seriously or are you being ironic

[stable dawn]

no it's actually real

But since 99% of the playerbase already upgraded the skill and can't undo it, it doesn't matter

[rustic bridge]

my best gear

[lusty hill]

Level 1 skill

[rustic bridge]

No skill booksn

[winged depot]

[rustic bridge]

i make no daily

[junior trench]

I think we found your problem. Skills are SUPER essential to run any ship, there are very few good ships in this game that don’t need their skills. Make sure you do those dailys to get books; the good thing about dailys is that after they get S cleared once, you get the ability to instantly clear them meaning they take up no time at all.

[timber flax]

Lvl 1 skills

[gritty quiver]

isnt a purple corsair better than the reppu

[lusty hill]

Anything is better for salty belfast

[snow ibex]

salty is trolling like always

[winged depot]

You're talking to a wall bro, just ignore him

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-wall-gif-5021467

[rustic bridge]

what is a purple coiser

[candid sluice]

strongest saltybelfast ship

[gritty quiver]

f4u corsair is a poverty fighter option

[neon bronze]

Bataan gaming.

[rustic bridge]

She is my stronstes

[lone fjord]

Hellcat of the Swarm

[junior trench]

The Independence-class is really just gaming

[neon bronze]

Who are u

[gritty quiver]

u could prob cheese them with stronk vanguard

[neon bronze]

no i'm asking who runs this account

[gritty quiver]

just kill them and ask later

[pastel jolt]

I think his discord is RyZe#4703 lel @neon bronze

If you want to ask him for collusion/him to do attempts for your EoS run

[neon bronze]

Eat him right now and get a 10, or wait/collude for an +11

i haven't overcapped past Captain yet

[winged depot]

[frosty goblet]

[pastel jolt]

Message RyZe#4703

He'll feed you

[frosty goblet]

Feed me

[pastel jolt]

[neon bronze]

sent friend request

lel

[pastel jolt]

@neon bronze You sent a discord friend request too? Idk if he checks ingame, he's not too active in guild chat

[neon bronze]

can't send fren reqs in discord, trying through AL friend request

[pastel jolt]

Ah okay... Need to share a server with him maybe

Since he isn't on ALO afaik

[neon bronze]

which i'm not in pepega

[pastel jolt]

It's okay, i'll talk to him later if he's online

In case you still have him on your list, that is

[rustic bridge]

I hate pvp

[timber flax]

Don't we all

[pastel jolt]

@neon bronze He is moving now if you're still awake

[neon bronze]

Someone else moved though...

[neon bronze]

He doesn't have to move now

[empty owl]

Um so I did like a whole fleet change and was wondering about some help If anyone I willing

[winged depot]

Post dock

[empty owl]

Um would you like the whole thing or just like the highest level?

[winged depot]

I can see more options if its everything

[winged depot]

[rustic bridge]

Pvp is hate

[coral wren]

Hi, how to improve my fleet in exercise? Same offense and defense fleet, I am thinking of using a DD such as An Shan or Yuudachi instead of Helena. Recommendations please, thanks!

[neon bronze]

Send dock, your SRs and URs.
Also, do you have Juneau?

[coral wren]

Yes, I have Juneau, do you have other ships in mind

[neon bronze]

Frontline is ehh, CAs would be shredded by opponent backline. Get Anchorage - Shimakaze - Juneau

[coral wren]

I want to send my dock but I can't create a thread here...

I dont have shimakaze, do u have other ships in mind

like An Shan or Yuudachi Kai

[neon bronze]

It's fine, pvp doesn't need threads. Just send the entirety of your dock

[neon bronze]

I'd recommend Harbin and Ayanami retro w/ her augment. Other 2 choices are Noshiro and Duca

[coral wren]

Thats nice, I have all of those

[neon bronze]

Backline should be fine

[coral wren]

yup, too bad I dont have uvh kron and shima

[coral wren]

Thank you for the help I appreciate it

[dim portal]

How to pvp?

[stable dawn]

be good at the game

[frosty goblet]

How to be good at the game ?

[stable dawn]

play more

[frosty goblet]

[rustic bridge]

what is good as flag ship

1 pvp fight she is lv 125

[lusty hill]

no need for fire tower she already got semi preload

holy shit salty belfast has 1000 ships

[rustic bridge]

yes

Lose on lv 40 ships front

i think i scrap yorktown

[neon bronze]

from my experience, she's basically a preload with HSFCR

i might be forgetting things though, haven't used that 3 BB fleet in a while

[floral wave]

80% skill, 15% hpfcr

[candid sluice]

[lusty hill]

would seydlitz with preload have more benefits than semi preload in pvp?

[floral wave]

id rather not use a full preload

[torpid shuttle]

@floral wave what ur personal strongest fleet

[floral wave]

musashi/seyd/vang ancho/harbin/juneau

fdg not fs5 yet

im using fdg/musashi/seyd or nano ancho/aya/harbin currently

fdg/musashi/seyd ancho/harbin/juneau probably the safest bet of what id run

[kind radish]

I named this fleet “where did the enemy vanguard go?”

[floral wave]

dont you mean "why enemy anchorage is a cheat"?

[neon bronze]

[kind radish]

i have counter for that

its called retreat button

[stable dawn]

do you have NJ?

[kind radish]

me? no

[stable dawn]

could still make a T0 fleet (Meeb), then

[kind radish]

meeb?

[stable dawn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BewmBsf4EWKAf_UwYax05c7ksL51y6sjs96pIwD73Jc/edit#gid=1356744907

there's also other useful info in the pins

[kind radish]

thanks for the info

ill try those build later

[lusty hill]

I hope Implacable have a preload and a bullshit ability that can one shot shimakaze

[valid oxide]

Implacable 100% hit rate for first airstrike

[floral wave]

honestly its about to man the fuck up and realize shimakaze isnt an issue

[frigid hamlet]

I hope implacable can spend my exercise attempts for me automatically and instantly every day

[candid sluice]

i hope implacable can play the game for me so i dont have to log in every day

[stable dawn]

I hope implacable can do my taxes

[candid sluice]

you still do taxes?

[wide prawn]

I had a look at the guide, but I don't really have any of the ships listed. Would this be an alright setup: ?

[valid oxide]

The vanguard only needs one more USS ship to farm anchorage exp

[umbral saddle]

other than swapping portland for anchorage and z23 for junea, what other easy replaceable options are there to improve this fleet? i dont have any other UR ship

[rustic bridge]

my fleet

9s 1 front ship survial

[marsh sand]

[trail temple]

No, not really. Monarch barrage only really hits the backline ship in front of it. Essex is meh and Enty is pretty vulnerable outside of Lucky E (i.e. she can get one-shot).

Sandy in lead is bad, she's not that bulky at all. Helena is alright for beginner teams and Z23 is not a pvp ship. This vanguard would probably get destroyed by any half-decent team (and if it survives the defence team sucks).

This is before we even touch gear btw

[rustic bridge]

Enty is fucking op for me impossible to kill

I lose self on a lv 1 enty

[stable dawn]

maybe you were the enty all along

[umbral saddle]

i sometimes get 1vs3ed by enty. or my enty does 1vs2

[winged depot]

[candid sluice]

Have you considered using enty yourself?

[azure swan]

"or my enty does 1vs2"

he is using enty

[neon bronze]

Implacable good in PvP copium.

[rustic bridge]

I need a enty slayer

[vast cloak]

i need a boat that ignores all active invincibility states

Implacable please.....

[flat veldt]

Enty needs to be banned in AL PvP.

[spiral aspen]

skill issue

[candid sluice]

Put enty in ubers tier

[vast cloak]

Hiryuu is cancer when shes just standing there like a goober doing nothing

[valid oxide]

Would warkai be better than amagi(4 sakura ships so she has semi-preload) in a backline consisting of hiryuu flag, sushi+x off-flag?

[valid oxide]

The fleets (ignore odd gearing)

Pretend amagi has mk4, forgot to switch it out

[zenith lantern]

Warkai is best paired with another HMS BB. She'll do damage but won't kill on her own but if you run her with ideally Vanguard their first volley will kill whatever you aim Warkai at.

[lone fjord]

More Bataan MvP

[neon bronze]

👏

[verbal skiff]

have you tried ramming your fleet into enty?

[floral wave]

have you tried manualling in pvp?

[verbal skiff]

I would if I could

my fleet keeps ramming itself into musashis

[fickle echo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974751857585045616/1023765518676660325/ADng9w.gif

[lusty hill]

That always happens when enemy has shimakaze

[zinc cape]

hi guys i'm new, does anyone know where i can find a tier list for pvp, so i know which ships i have to prioritize, thanks.

I have been playing for 2 weeks, I am level 50

[vagrant pike]

There is a guide in the pins

[dim portal]

She's bad in PVP when it comes to meta. Only good for captain rankers

[dim portal]

She's not entirely cancer. She's way more manageable than most meta fleets

[flat veldt]

It's unethical that Enty alone is gatekeeping newer players from hitting past Captain rank. A famous PvPer once said that "a real man" doesn't use any of that "insurance shit".

[winged depot]

[valid oxide]

Enty cringe because sushi kills her before she launches

This is why hiryuu is gaming

[dim portal]

TLDR: Don't try to rank high in PVP if you're under lvl100 or you don't have good pvp ships leveled up

Many people's just rush and most miss sets of turns which is why they're not able to get past captain rank

[trail temple]

Commander level doesn't mean anything

[dim portal]

Mostly yeah

[trail temple]

Not mostly, at all

If you have levelled ships that are relatively meta, you can eos

[dim portal]

All depends if the player has the meta ships at max level so that they'll beat many fleets easily

[merry vale]

Ships and gear matter.

[dim portal]

It's just a matter of RNG in winning

[trail temple]

Proved my point

[merry vale]

People intentionally sandbag entire accounts to end of season at low commander level.

[flat veldt]

I don't believe anyone would do that

[merry vale]

You'd be wrong.

[trail temple]

Flaccid Torp is just that good, he didn't hold his levels back at all

Same with Gorrillaz

Gorrillaz even hit aotn his first time without a meta fleet

[winged depot]

level does not matter, I literally hit level 100 with only 1 UR and that's kronk

[flat veldt]

Those low level accounts are cracked

[winged depot]

[trail temple]

If those 2 are coming up through the ranks, at least the old pvpers can properly retire

[wide prawn]

Enty haters seethe, because muh new shipgirl gets spat on by OG cover girl. If PVP is badly implemented, of course people will reroll, smh.

[winged depot]

Lmao

Enty is not even meta anymore

only works on lower ranks

Oh yeah she also works if you're named SaltyBelfast

[merry vale]

I forgot about the buff she gets vs Salty. She gets +1000% invincibility duration.

[neon bronze]

lmao

[winged depot]

I'm not surprised that happens to you

[flat veldt]

Enty struggle is real

[trail temple]

At this point, I think you can consider the defence team having won here

[stable dawn]

triple BB with Seydlitz and FdG

[neon bronze]

copium failed.

[candid sluice]

There are lvl70s who rank higher than lvl120s on ladder skill based gamemode

[zinc cape]

guys, what do you think of this fleet?

[stable dawn]

where gear

[zinc cape]

I'm building the fleet first, then we'll see about the equipment haha

[dim portal]

It loses quite a big on damage because no targeted barrage

[zinc cape]

tell me what you would change if you don't mind, I'm here to learn

[candid sluice]

Needs a new jersey

[dim portal]

Like what arrow said

There's several fleets you can make to make sure you win most of the time. Be it MSN, Triple UR BB, Yakuza, Meeb. But 1st 3 are generally what's used

[zinc cape]

ok thank you very much, I have to say I started the game recently, so I don't have most of these ships, but it's to get an idea of what I want to aim for

[dim portal]

Ahh you don't have NJ?

If that's the case, you can just try Meeb fleet ig. It not as good as MSN and tri UR BB but you can manage most fleets with it. Meeb consisting of Musashi-Shinano-Hiryuu

[zinc cape]

No, but I know that soon they will release a light rerun of it

[zinc cape]

ty I'll keep that in mind, but first I have to focus on cleaning up the story haha

[merry vale]

Shinano was confirmed 2022 but she was rerun at the back end of the year.

So 'soon' may not be that soon.

If they do the same thing for NJ you still have 6-8 months to wait.

[valid oxide]

I may work towards a fully oathed fleet

I think it would be fun

[dim portal]

That's being serious in PVP. Full oathed meta fleet to chunk in as much stats as possible

[valid oxide]

I've already got the oathed sushi

I will oath ancho next

[dim portal]

Can you show me the fleet you use?

[valid oxide]

It's awful but sure

Forgot to set sushi as 200aff, she should be like this

[dim portal]

You don't have shima and NJ-Vang-Shinano atm?

[valid oxide]

My only URs are poikai and sushi

And I'm working on ayaya to replace nosh

[dim portal]

Ahh. NJ rerun would be in few months probably so save up cubes. She's highly recommended

Try harb instead of Noshiro

[valid oxide]

I don't have harb

I can get her once I have Chinese vanguards at a level high enough to farm 11-1

My only other UR I can get that would be potentially but probably not relevant is warkai

[trail temple]

He needs IJN for Amagi if he wants to fire earlier

So Noshiro is needed for that purpose

[zenith lantern]

It’s really good ask @fickle echo

[fickle echo]

I almost won last season using it if wasn't for the +8 on the last exercise

[stable dawn]

[fickle echo]

As the most successful user of this fleet I shall call it "Musashi KMS" or "MK" for short

[winged depot]

[stable dawn]

got any videos of it in action?

[fickle echo]

https://youtu.be/cfdpYQOXULk
If you go to 3:34 you can see FDG taking 2 airstrikes from Hiryuu like it's nothing even when all my backline ships have bad AA

[stable dawn]

How does it fare compared to Musashi NJ FdG, Musashi NJ Vanguard, and Musashi NJ Seydlitz, though?

[fickle echo]

As good as VG support skills are she dies to anything that hits her and her barrage miss the enemy vanguards almost everytime she target it

How good Seydlitz is depends on how many shells she hits at the start, it he hits a NJ or Ancho with enough shells they'll take a lot of damage or even die at the start

But even if she miss all shells as long she survives to fire a second time she'll kill most of the backline ships since at this point the enemy vanguard is likely to be dead and most backline ships at low-mid hp

[trail temple]

Very fitting, calling it the MK fleet, because we know what MK complains about the most

[stable dawn]

You didn't answer about Musashi NJ FdG

[fickle echo]

https://youtu.be/4km7idHhE7Y
Musashi NJ FDG like this one?

[stable dawn]

no I meant as in Musashi NJ FdG vs the HYMEN comp

ofc on attack triple BB just wins

it's been like that since vanguard was released lol

[fickle echo]

Brah was using Musashi NJ FDG and he walled Kaoru so hard he switched Aquila for Hiryuu on this season

[stable dawn]

wait have you been describing matchups against other triple BBs this whole time

I was asking about comparing the different triple BB comps

[stable dawn]

bro what

[fickle echo]

Oh you mean how the fleet works?

[stable dawn]

walled Yakuza???

[stable dawn]

No, I mean like,
(MK vs Hymen winrates) vs (Musashi NJ FdG vs Hymen winrates)

etc etc

basically pitting the different triple BBs against the same def

to gauge how well they perform

[fickle echo]

Losing the backline fight against any 2BB fleet running Nano or Hiryuu is most likely a reset, if it's Aquila the backline usually can tank the hit and kill her from full HP
Against any other 3 BB fleet running Musashi FDG + Manjuu NJ or even Seydlitz it usually comes to what fleet can keep the invincibility for more time, if the manjuu is on Anchorage instead of NJ it's a easy win

[trail temple]

So, do you have a table of the results? Like you have all the other previous comps?

[stable dawn]

yeah, these triple BB comps seem strong enough to add to salty's pvp doc

[trail temple]

I mean you can, you have write/edit access

[stable dawn]

'course, but we just need to gather information from the source

[trail temple]

Just test them yourself first

[stable dawn]

[fickle echo]

Right now I only have 3 videos where I tested against top players, I tried to test against other players but my fleet was winning so easily it wasn't even worth recoding

I can do more tests once I get good opponents, the problem is I usually only find them when I'm moving at 5min to the reset

[stable dawn]

guess I'll just wait for the meta to mature a bit more then ping you or pink for more info

[trail temple]

What fleets were they against?

and in those 3, how many games (roughly) did you do on each?

[fickle echo]

MSN (Pink), Musa/FDG/NJ (Aldarn), and Hymen (Kaoru)

[fickle echo]

MSN: only lost when I lost the vanguard fight and Shinano kept hidden, otherwise it's a win
Musa/FDG/NJ: only lose when NJ keeps her Manjuu invincibility until the end of the fight and my Seydlitz doesn't
Hymen: same as Musashi/FDG/NJ also Hiryuu doesn't really seem like a problem because my backline can tank her airstrikes much more easily compared to Nano's

[trail temple]

So how many games was that, roughly?

5? 10? Each of course

[fickle echo]

I didn't count but it should be around 5-7 I also made another video fighting Aldarn again later
https://youtu.be/Ms1fnJBWIMg

[stable dawn]

interesting, no Juneau on either side

[fickle echo]

Harbin looks better for triple BB fleets because her torpedoes help with killing the vanguard and you can use blue torps on Ancho without worrying much against carrier fleets

[stable dawn]

you'd think a stall comp would be better so they can detect CVs by outliving the enemy VG

[fickle echo]

Nah, your backline will just keep taking damage from hidden CVs and the enemy Ancho will bait your shells when invincible making your damage decrease a lot

[stable dawn]

so does that mean you just run full dps loadout?

white shell on BBs?

[fickle echo]

Harbin+Shima+Seydlitz sometimes just kill NJ/Ancho at the start making it insta win almost everytime

And if the enemy vanguard dies before 30s and all my backline ships are alive to fire a second time they'll fire one right after the other faster than the enemy backline can react thanks to the fast guns I'm using

[stable dawn]

But the real question is can it handle Meeb?

[fickle echo]

Last time I fought against it my vanguard easily survived thanks to Harbin

But I can't test on this season because I can't find anyone using it, Letan isn't even playing this season

[empty mesa]

Letan running T0 comp?

[fickle echo]

It's not t0 because no Shima

[stable dawn]

[fickle echo]

Without Shima any fleet should drop 1 tier below

[empty mesa]

[gritty quiver]

are these kinds of nuclear teams legit

does 406 mk4 crit dmg buff affect warkai barrage?

cuz that means i can snipe a enty

[trail temple]

Looks pretty mid

[keen juniper]

stall speed DD

[trail temple]

To answer your question, mk4 buff is this:

When equipped by a ship: increases her Main Gun DMG by 10%, but increases her reload time by 35% from the 5th shot onwards.
So, no mk4 does not apply to Warkai's barrage

[winged depot]

no anchorage so that's gonna die instantly

[lone fjord]

Ultra combo of Bataan and Akagi chan

[keen juniper]

They moved really fast, sometimes preload torps and salvos would eventually missed, unless it’s parallel torps

[winged depot]

still squishy

[trail temple]

It's a mid comp at best

Wouldn't even consider putting it in the spreadsheet it's that mid

[empty mesa]

It can delete noob fleets but that's about it.

[winged depot]

anchorage just broken

[keen juniper]

Not that broken

[trail temple]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[neon bronze]

If I run Ancho - Shima - Harbin with only one black torp, do I give it to Shima?

And do I run teatorps on both Shima and Harbin?

[floral wave]

but you dont have shima, no?

or only no nj

[neon bronze]

this

[floral wave]

got shima, can aotn

[keen juniper]

I don’t have shima, can AoTN

[floral wave]

no you cant, according to letan

[neon bronze]

[keen juniper]

What?

[neon bronze]

Not you.

[ember parrot]

How do I keep my rank? I keep missing the 12h PvP reset of the day bc sleep and I get down rank to cap, I can get back to rear adm in the 18h reset but it really irksome

[keen juniper]

Keeping your score, not keeping your ranks, your score depends what rank you’ll be

if you’re not updating your score while everyone else increase their scores then you’ll pushed down

[ember parrot]

My current rank is 817 but if I miss the 12h mark then I got down rank to 1000+, my score is 1734

I am on Avrora sv, everyone here is crazy with PvP

[keen juniper]

Put it simply just make sure use your exercises to 5/10 or 0/10 before reset

[stable dawn]

@keen juniper What server do you play on?

[keen juniper]

Lexington

[stable dawn]

interesting

so you're with Ari, Pink, and the other triple BB users now

[keen juniper]

Triple BB? I’m a MSN user

[stable dawn]

they're saying it counters MSN now, but I'm waiting for more data to roll in

[keen juniper]

Me simply put meme defense, MSN as attacker and repeat for bad rng

[stable dawn]

[keen juniper]

[whole salmon]

Triple BB on Offense is quite promising

On Defense then not so much

But Defense doesn’t matter as much anyways

[stable dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

[whole salmon]

I still use MSN

But my Aquila, FDG and Vanguard are geared incases when I want to switch

Which is still quite rare

[keen juniper]

Yeah defense doesn’t matter as much, people will always find out how to beat yours either better fleet or repeatedly

[whole salmon]

I do use other fleets but MSN is still my go to

[knotty kindle]

msn?

Musashi Nj?

[candid sluice]

shinano

[hollow walrus]

Musashi Shinano New Jersey

[whole salmon]

Musashi Shinano New jersey

[knotty kindle]

I use Musashi, Fdg Aquila

This is how I would rank the rainbow ships in pvp, What's ur opinion?

[zinc cape]

Prinz Rupprecht is trash?

[knotty kindle]

this is just rainbow ships...

[bold kayak]

Why isnt sandy in the number one spot

Bad tier list

-rep

[zinc cape]

Ye but I wanted to know if it was viable in pvp since I don't see it in many fleets

[gritty quiver]

nobody rly uses ruppy for anything tbh since theres just better options

[stable dawn]

Agir good???

[knotty kindle]

She's honestly the weakest rainbow imo. No survivabillity and she get's instantly shredded by anything that isn't planes plus Seattle is a better aa wall anw

[knotty kindle]

yes, again this is just my humble opinion and not 100% facts but ye. I would say that Ägir is the best tank aside from of course Anchorage

[stable dawn]

well you heard it here folks

pvp is over. Agir is good now.

[knotty kindle]

I may only be in top captain and the lower admiral ranks but I also play a lot of pvp so...

[fickle echo]

So Hakuryuu is as good as Warspite?

[knotty kindle]

haku too fragile...

[candid sluice]

why do u have large cruisers high on that list

[zinc cape]

Shimakaze is by far the best DD in the game no?

[fickle echo]

Probably they're large so they should be better than normal cruisers

[stable dawn]

shima is so bad people replace her with Harbin

[candid sluice]

uvh is more relevant than agir

[keen juniper]

Please say you guys being sarcastic

[stable dawn]

Check out my sick new pvp fleet @fickle echo

I call it the MK mk. II

[fickle echo]

MK Ultra

[trail temple]

Agir is good in PvP, definitely can't argue with that

Not at all

[candid sluice]

good at eating torps sure

[trail temple]

She's KMS, she's obviously top tier

[candid sluice]

true

[fickle echo]

She's a heavy armor ship so of course she's gonna tank torps like nothing

[keen juniper]

The solid CB that stall far long just Kron, others are torps eater

[trail temple]

Agir tanks everything, literally invincible

[stable dawn]

yeah she has really high FP

that's why her FP score is so good

[candid sluice]

u guys are missing the point

its her torps

[fickle echo]

No, it's her armor break skill+high FP

[trail temple]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[fickle echo]

She can kill any ship

[stable dawn]

you can also put 2 cosmic kicks on her to maximize her FP. Just go full feet power

[trail temple]

She becomes an AA monster with the UR AA gun too

Why have Sandy when you can Agir?

[fickle echo]

No, don't give her more speed she's gonna be too fast and it's unfair against other players

[stable dawn]

are you afraid of getting stepped on?

[fickle echo]

[rustic bridge]

I by 11k fleet power

[stable dawn]

just use Concord and Ajax

maximum feet power

[keen juniper]

Yukikaze with high heels and boiler can evade anything

[candid sluice]

just use full french dd squad

the enemy cant win if they cant hit u

[stable dawn]

[fickle echo]

Nah the enemy players are just gonna use the ultimate evasion counter ship: Bristol

[rustic bridge]

10/10 lose

[keen juniper]

[lusty hill]

Even mlb york2 doesn't save him

[keen juniper]

Oh look Top rated vanguard, Agir Shima and Anchorage

Not so good in front of my Foxes

[fickle echo]

[keen juniper]

[rustic bridge]

Yes York 2 is fucking shit

[keen juniper]

Also power difference doesn’t really matter in PvP, just slightly different

[whole salmon]

Agir can be used in pvp but it is only used in 1 very specific comp that only specifically counters another specific comp

It is the Seydlitz, Aquila Swordfish, Agir Quint Mag comp

Which countered Def Weeb fleets back in the day

Is only used in a super specific case where the slow stacks help you kill the enemy stall frontline easily

Rn Agir is indeed quite dead ever since Musashi came out

[merry vale]

Everything changed when the fire nation Musashi attacked.

[whole salmon]

Fate 5 FDG also kinda makes Agir less necessary in Seydlitz comps

But Seydlitz comps aren’t that common or good anymore

Not that it was that common or that good to begin with

[empty mesa]

She is just annoying because of invul.

[whole salmon]

There’s usage for Seydlitz but she isn’t a main stay by any means

But it is still a fun comp worth trying sometimes

[zinc cape]

Does anyone know if you can do a 1 vs 1 with a friend?

[spare lily]

Don't have any idea sir..

PvP with ur friend till both of u reach rank 100 maybe u can do 1v1

[zinc cape]

ok ty np

[zenith lantern]

All the 3 BB fleets destroy meeb. It's one of the most one sided matchups there is. Normally it ends up 3 dead ships and a manjuu procced Ancho on meeb side before the carriers can even launch. Having 2 CVs just means your 4 remaining ships get focused really hard as there's less targets to pick.

[neon bronze]

3 BB either smokes up the frontline (happens on attack) or snipe the lone Musashi (happens when I encountered 3 BB fleets w/ Meeb)

NJ's a better option than FdG when it comes to pressuring both.

[stable dawn]

I misread that as pleasuring both

[neon bronze]

well... they could. kinky ships

up to them i suppose

[trail temple]

Not in that sense, no. You can perhaps find them on the ladder if you're lucky

[lusty hill]

Fuck this fleet and fuck the shimakaze in particular

please stop wallling the newbies

[stable dawn]

Anchorage still no skin

[winged depot]

looks doable

[lusty hill]

never

[valid oxide]

Ancho oath skin soon

[winged depot]

[trail temple]

Another season, another instance where Serenity gets walled by sussy bakas

Agent F really be inspiring people

[gaunt girder]

I have achieved my dumb goal after weeks of trying

[azure swan]

nice

[stoic moon]

[candid sluice]

hey ive seen that fleet

[flat veldt]

[keen juniper]

Okay I have MSN here

1x try, well Akagas really destroy Anchorage

[stable dawn]

that FP is abnormally low for MSN

[keen juniper]

It’s a mid

Not oathed

Still a wall if using a noob fleet

[stable dawn]

anything is a wall if using a noob fleet

[keen juniper]

I’ll try testing my foxes next season against Ari and the others

[winged depot]

[robust oyster]

[lusty hill]

No 36

Lost too many battle this season don't know if I can get aotn

Fuck shimakaze making me lose a lot

[winged depot]

You can still get it

[neon bronze]

just rush. You can get AotN

[lusty hill]

I hope people on top would stop using shimakaze when I rush

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-gif-25530022

[lusty hill]

Like couple of days ago a literal meme fleet with shimakaze almost decimate my fleet

[winged depot]

lmao

[lusty hill]

Meta fleet isn't a thing when shimakaze can put literally anything to top tier

[candid sluice]

[neon bronze]

[winged depot]

I literally don't get oneshot by a shimakaze anymore.

[lusty hill]

Do you shimakaze?

[winged depot]

Nope

[lusty hill]

What you use

[lusty hill]

Haven't finished harbin yet

[candid sluice]

the torps cant kill u if they dont hit u

[lusty hill]

But still I doubt she'll do better since shimakaze is literally broken

[winged depot]

Haven't had that problem when I used ayanami back then too

Only one who gets oneshot back then was ayanami

[pseudo copper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1064232037797597324/1065513827577384990/Screenshot_20230119-090841_Discord.jpg

[lusty hill]

Well from my experience shimakaze has like 100% hit rate or something while my ayanami contribute much like bulin

[stable dawn]

anvy

[pseudo copper]

Shima destroyer of hopes of admiral of the anvy

[stable dawn]

[winged depot]

[pseudo copper]

No non-Shima haver can beat her

[winged depot]

I'll just call all "shimakaze is needed" statement as skill issue from now

[lusty hill]

Not to mention enemy anchorage is always invincible when preload while mine don't even block shimakaze

[pseudo copper]

Why from now? Always was

[winged depot]

I was still pretty humble on the topic ngl

[neon bronze]

@lusty hill this should help you https://youtu.be/BO-9mnzUrYQ

[keen juniper]

Skill issue, that’s Ayanami who brought me to AoTN instead of Shima

[winged depot]

I got to eos t10 cause of ayanami too

[uncut agate]

my shima launches her preloads into oblivion and dips, bad ship

[stable dawn]

I don't have battle tractor or UvH, can I hit top 10 EoS? @fickle echo

[lusty hill]

Doesn't matter I will always hate shimakaze until I have her

[floral wave]

@stable dawn you can have royal oak now

[winged depot]

[fickle echo]

Do you have at least Yukikaze? Maybe there's some hope

[stable dawn]

no. Is she event locked?

[winged depot]

Yukinanoda our lord and saviour

[winged depot]

When did you made this a sticker

[fickle echo]

If you don't have her then you aren't lucky, just give up on pvp

[stable dawn]

blu-ray skin

[candid sluice]

i think i got a faulty shima

her torps never hit

[winged depot]

can't relate

no shima

[stable dawn]

hopes and dreams destroyed.

[fickle echo]

PvE is still fun, probably

[winged depot]

[pseudo copper]

I have no broken ships, Letan told me to quit

So doubt pve is fun

[keen juniper]

[floral wave]

wdym, you can use the jarbussy now

[candid sluice]

wtf is pve

[floral wave]

with royal oak buff

[winged depot]

Jarbussy my beloved

[pseudo copper]

PvP gear prep

[fickle echo]

Player vs ||Essex||

[pseudo copper]

Ah #sandy-general when mods are around

[stable dawn]

[dim portal]

Very nice season to sleep

[knotty kindle]

anyone know if the datamine is out?

[floral wave]

it is

[junior trench]

Royal Oak looking PvP oriented

[lusty hill]

I hope her time stop can one shot shimakaze

[stable dawn]

Royal Oak can stop time???

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/za-warudo-jojo-bizarre-adventure-power-gif-14292027

[lusty hill]

lmao didn't notice

my display name is unironic

[merry vale]

[merry vale]

This sounds fun to play around with.

[neon bronze]

looks like a viable option lol

[stable dawn]

inb4 stronger than Shinano

[valid oxide]

The 10% is reload stat and the 4% is airstrike reload, so definitely not 14% faster airstrikes

[whole salmon]

There’s other more major issues with her

Regarding survivability

When she looks even more paper than Haku

[merry vale]

[whole salmon]

The slow is fun to play around but it doesn’t seem like a main stay

There may be things I am overlooking certain things but she doesn’t seem to have as much of a potential as Royal Oak

And even Royal Oak doesn’t exactly have that great of potential to begin with

[stable dawn]

if she has faster reload than Shinano you can potentially run MSN with her

and just obliterate vanguards for free

[whole salmon]

She’s not that much faster

And that was with Pirate

10% reload stat increase requires Divebomber to be in slot 2, which in this case would be Tenrai

Double Wyvern is actually slower than Shinano

[whole salmon]

The difference isn’t as major since it is reload stat

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

And besides if you want to meme with slow comp

There exist Independence + Northampton 2 meme fleet

[stable dawn]

No we have to use that guy's UR pvp tier list

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749898857567223848/1077945019081703434/my-image.png

[whole salmon]

Or Seydlitz, Agir, Aquila Swordfish meme fleet

[stable dawn]

Agir

[whole salmon]

Indep fleet was funny for a week

It is pretty bad tho

Bad but funny

[uncut agate]

pink sugar's my seasonal wall, happens every 2 week

[whole salmon]

Ping if you need early move

[uncut agate]

[deft escarp]

@rustic bridge

Best PvP ship obtained again

[rustic bridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1019513950037098566/videotogif_2022.09.05_23.56.47.gif

[gaunt sparrow]

What is the best Vanguard trio if I'm trying to stall until my slow backline does its thing? I assume Anchorage and Juneau Kai are two must haves, what about the third?

[floral wave]

shimakaze/yukikaze

harbin works too i guess

[gaunt sparrow]

Shimakaze is what I currently have in the third slot, but I am concerned about potentially not committing enough to stalling by picking her

[floral wave]

nah, thats fine

[gaunt sparrow]

Yukikaze is a good pointer though

[floral wave]

if you have shima its shima and ancho

third slot can be flexible

but for slower fleets its gonna be juneau

killing enemy also gives you more time

[gaunt sparrow]

Fair enough. The best defense is a good offense

And Shimakaze's ability to just delete ships in certain instances is admittedly kind of stupid to witness sometimes, might leave a gaping hole not to have that

[merry vale]

And people try to play without Anchorage.

Shima just preload kills their entire Frontline.

[deft escarp]

People be complaining about Shima and then not using Anchorage

She's permanent content too and you can easily get her to dev 25 in just a couple weeks thanks to catch up

[uneven fable]

I can do some magic tricks on your aircrafts.

[neon bronze]

Pog.

[lusty hill]

Backline use rainbow AA too?

[neon bronze]

Rainbow AA guns on BBs aren't recommended. Use STAAG instead

[valid oxide]

I now have oathed anchovy, shall 200 aff on D3 when it's out

[boreal parcel]

If you could permaban one ship from pvp forever, which one would you choose?

[merry vale]

Vestal.

[stable dawn]

Yuckykaze

[coral wren]

Hey, is Musashi > FdG the excercise choice now?

[zinc phoenix]

She was for a long while

I am seeing a lot more triple bb than before though

[boreal parcel]

German Fleet isn't all that powerful. You can easily destroy full KMS defense fleet with a mono Sardegna or Iris/Vichy fleet

[coral wren]

Does she use sakura gold AP gun or sakura purple HE gun?

[boreal parcel]

Her barrage improves if she uses a Sakura gun.

[zinc phoenix]

There’s an equipment guide pinned

[coral wren]

Yeah, Im not sure if she'd rather have the multipliers or the damage downtime on her side

[zinc phoenix]

Sakura gun anyways. 410 kai, blue or purple

[coral wren]

Ah, thanks

[zinc phoenix]

Speed is king in pvp

[neon bronze]

ah shit

[stoic moon]

[forest vapor]

Is Meeb the best current fleet for someone who has been playing since SSSS Gridman (Don't have Italians, NJ, or Shima)

And do I use Noshiro or Yukikaze for Vanguard middle slot (still devving Harbin)

[winged depot]

Your situation looks like mine so i'll just put it here. Also it depends actually imo I would go noshiro but ykkz is also solid

Fdg needs to be at least fs 3 though

[neon bronze]

1. Yeah. You could also run 3 BB as what Veston sent you, 2 BB Shinano or 2 BB Hiryuu, assuming you got Musashi, FdG and Vanguard. Up to preference though.
2. Yukikaze in an age where Musashi exists... wouldn't take that risk. Use either Ayanami retrofit w/ her unique augment or Noshiro.

[forest vapor]

Gotcha thanks!

[steel coral]

meeb 2strong pls nerf

[zenith lantern]

At least on Lexi Meeb is going to struggle right now, a lot of 3BB fleets and Meeb is really bad against them. 3BB could work but it needs Shima more than most fleets. 2BB plus Shinano or Hiryuu is probably your best bet.

[fleet laurel]

is hiryuu kai stil meta in pvp?

[whole salmon]

2BB 1CV is the most balanced between offense and defense

Without any notable counters and without issues with consistency

2 BB here usually means Musashi and NJ

The CV could be a fast comp like with Aquila or a slow comp like with Shinano/Hiryuu

Although these comps might not be the fastest, they can still handle both 3BB or 2CV comps quite okayish

[golden lantern]

any fleet builders in here im so clueless in this game

[neon bronze]

Send your dock

[golden lantern]

i mean i copied other pvp fleets

but equipment-wise and such im lost

i got the prototype ur plane from the shop and the AL guide website says its kinda useless for me

[neon bronze]

Slaimuda. There goes your problem

that's for PvE gearing

[golden lantern]

o

i dont think this site has pvp guide does it

[neon bronze]

#pvp message

[golden lantern]

like for equipment and fleets

[neon bronze]

refer to this comment link, it links to a pvp guide. it also has gears for meta ships

[golden lantern]

also what can replace noshiro on the vanguard?

i still think my fleet can do better

[neon bronze]

Shimakaze and Harbin. Duca is a sidegrade

[golden lantern]

ok let me send u my pvp fleet and u decide what changes

[golden lantern]

idk why shimakaze transformed into ticonderoga

[neon bronze]

HUH

[golden lantern]

but in the middle its shimakaze

[neon bronze]

You got Musashi?

[golden lantern]

ye

but idk what equipment to put

[neon bronze]

Replace FdG

i'll make it for y

[golden lantern]

i shit u not my fleet might look strong but i have no clue whats going on in this game

[neon bronze]

A Yakuza fleet.

1. Musashi and NJ's auxillary guns are craftable in the Gear Lab. Specifically the Twin 137. You can also upgrade a Hazemeyer AA gun to a STAAG there; use it for Harbin.
2. You could swap NJ's Rudder for Anchorage's Manjuu. Up to preference though, people prefer one or the other.

3. Juneau Retrofit can also be used if you don't have Harbin atm, to which the gearing is as provided in the image.

[golden lantern]

no idea how to get 1/2 of the auxillary

the shoe, duck, shiny orb, black torp, feather, the beaver emblem and those barrels

[gritty quiver]

black torp and feather are event gated iirc, the rest are obtainable through war archive and through collection rewards

barrels are from core tho

[golden lantern]

do i need that feather badly?

[gritty quiver]

nop

it just trades a bit of avi for eva

nice to have but not needed

[golden lantern]

well thank you good people for the help i will save the images in case i decide to go through this madness in the future

[neon bronze]

Gold Catapult is an okay substitute for that Feather, though it lacks Evasion.
I'd use Washington Naval Treaty

[gritty quiver]

i wish i didnt miss the event with the torp aux

[golden lantern]

i have only 1

idk what its for honestly

[hollow walrus]

Curious but why DD gun for Musashi if she can equip CL guns?

[golden lantern]

is this one worse?

[gritty quiver]

depends, but that usually works too

just 1s slower iirc

[golden lantern]

does damage compensate it?

[gritty quiver]

barrage is good enough to let u run faster ijn guns without sacrificing too much dmg

[golden lantern]

i c

[neon bronze]

1. The shoe is from the Passionate Polaris event, which is in the War Archive SP right now. 60 runs in SP5
2. The duck is obtained from the Memento.
3. The orb is from Memento.
4. The Black torp is from the Aurora Noctis event. Currently not in War Archives.
5. Angel's Feather is from Joffre's Raid event, it ran last 2021 iirc.
6. The barrels on Aquila can be purchased from the Core Shop.

[neon bronze]

Plymouth gun is better on Musashi. However, since the guy doesn't have that, I've adjusted that for him.

[golden lantern]

alright ty

[neon bronze]

A tip, you can reset. It won't spend an exercise, so it basically gives you another chance to redo a fight against a troublesome opponent fleet.

Welcome.

[golden lantern]

ik

ive abused it before

[neon bronze]

[valid oxide]

Should I farm WA for cosmic kicks specifically for PvP?

[lusty hill]

it's a good gear for pve too so you probably should

[merry vale]

Cosmic kicks are really good, grinding for it is worth it.

[coral wren]

Should I use aviation fuel on enterprise with homing beacon?

[valid oxide]

How much does wnt affect PvP battles and why does it go on flag hiryuu?

[merry vale]

A fair amount. It smooths out rng damage spikes that could lose you fights. It goes on any flagship. Hiryuu flag is just really good for eating the enemies preloads.

[empty mesa]

It kinda slows you down if you move late and want to finish your fights faster.

[stable dawn]

technically you'd still be faster if you don't have to reset

[merry vale]

I don't use it so my defense fleet can hit bad teams harder.