pvp

[stable dawn]

also in pvp best loadouts for aquila auxes are:
wnt + fuel
feather + fuel
depending on flag

[candid sluice]

And put manju on anchorag

Swap your bb aa guns to staag

[winged depot]

maybe wnt vg and feather aql?

[stable dawn]

not going musashi flag?

[winged depot]

maybe

[dry dawn]

cant afford pancake plane for aquilla (yet) Bf ap or something else?

[merry vale]

Seahornet if you have it.

[dry dawn]

i have 4 YD

[stable dawn]

it's fine to run it at +10 for now

[neon bronze]

yeah

[stable dawn]

any amount of intercept is better than bf109

if you have a Tigercat you could use that as a temporary replacement

if you don't have any of the 2x1000lb bomb fighters, just use skypirate

[neon bronze]

this is with aquila flag, right? i rather prefer either musashi/vg flag, most other ppl have aquila off-flag in their defense fleets

[stable dawn]

you can run musashi flag with wnt and put feather on aquila instead of wnt then put beaver + hpfcr on vanguard

[winged depot]

Reason why there's comments below that lol

[zinc phoenix]

Plus13 tiger or pancake?

[stable dawn]

pancake is better

it's a direct upgrade over tigercat

[neon bronze]

and sea hornet, sea hornet was BiS until pancake

[zinc phoenix]

I mean, plus13 tiger at or plus10 pancake

[stable dawn]

oh

[neon bronze]

oh

[stable dawn]

not sure, I'd go for +13 tigercat personally

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t have the plates

[winged depot]

+13 one

[neon bronze]

yeah, +13 tigercat until you could +13 the pancake

[little bobcat]

the manual mkix'?

[neon bronze]

yes

[little bobcat]

i don't have black torp so 🤷

if i had it i'd be using them tho

[pastel jolt]

You dont need black torp

Why is everyone saying black torp is needed to put pressure on the backline? It’s just helpful

Pure parallels with proper speed adjustment can hit backline semi-reliably even without teatorps, and even if you don’t resetting is okay especially for non hardbaggers

[uncut agate]

my teatorps very rarely hit the backline cuz attacker starts very far away and the enemy vanguard generally attracts the magnetised torps towards the sides

[candid sluice]

it all depends if u prefer consistency or volatility

[neon bronze]

@floral wave what's the gears u use in ur 3 BB comp?

hmm, VG 406mk4, Warkai 457, sushi 410kai?

[floral wave]

sushi 356

[little bobcat]

why is wnt good?

[stable dawn]

damage reduction, HIT, and EVA

[hollow orchid]

Can anyone suggest a good exercise fleet for beginners?

[stable dawn]

Define "beginner"

[merry vale]

Yeah, gonna need a list of your ships and gear to even start making suggestions.

That isn't just 'copy meta'.

[neon bronze]

The PvP guide in pins has fleets, but nothing beats crafting an available PvP fleet with the ships you have on your dock rn

[plucky arch]

Do any ships reliably replace Shimakaze? I've been looking at a lot of the meta teams in this channel and the pins, and she's the only one I'm missing

[merry vale]

Anything but Shima is pretty cope.

Harbin or Aya work if you're truly needing to cope.

[floral wave]

harbin not as much cope

[marsh sand]

These are the ships that I have and my fleet on PvP, any suggestions or upgrade that I can make ? started playing on Nov 2022, so I'm missing a lot of ships

[stable dawn]

Just do your daily exercises for merit

I wouldn't even think about competitive pvp this early into the game

[marsh sand]

Somehow I managed to at least stay on top 1000

[acoustic rose]

ibuki good for pvp?

[merry vale]

Not particularly.

[acoustic rose]

hmm i see what are the tops CB rn then?

[merry vale]

Anchorage >>> literally every other option by multiple miles.

[acoustic rose]

shit i dun have her, whos second to best then

[merry vale]

Even agir is pretty trash in pvp.

Tanks aren't that good in pvp. Anchorage is just busted.

[acoustic rose]

oh so we dont use them then?

[merry vale]

Your tank is made of paper in pvp thanks to preload torps and current meta ships.

So torp reduction and evasion boosting is way higher priority.

Without Anchorage everyone else is equally as squishy.

She's a staple you can't compromise on.

[acoustic rose]

i see, imma just avoid anyone using anchorage then

[merry vale]

That's basically everyone.

[acoustic rose]

bruh

[merry vale]

She gives a 35% evasion boost to your entire Frontline.

And she's insanely tanky, and she can use manju.

Everyone who cares even remotely about pvp uses Anchorage.

[stable dawn]

she's also permanent content

play at your own pace

[pastel jolt]

Yukikaze

Better than other competing options, lacking Shima's pressure but fits better with slower fleets

Using Harbin/Noshiro makes your vanguard too slow unless you stack speed on Anchorage, and Ayanami is a cheap, inconsistent option that swings heavily making her not ideal for hardbagging

[undone aurora]

when I pvp I my fleet power is always a little bit lower, what is being lost?

[distant thorn]

Don't worry about fleet power it mostly comes down to ships/gear, for example my main fleet is only 16k and I still beat people with 18k fairly easily

And if u want a better pvp fleet just post your dock and wait for someone to help you

[candid sluice]

Fleet tech

[untold crater]

Fleet tech does not apply in pvp

[undone aurora]

whats fleet tech? like skills based on the composition of the fleet?

[untold crater]

Upgrades from acquiring and leveling ships to 120

These

[distant thorn]

Oh he just wanted to know

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[undone aurora]

of that fleet tech, thanks

[pastel jolt]

in reality your fleet has 0 difference, its just that the displayed number is different

[stable dawn]

[neon bronze]

Yostar staff preparing an announcement to extend the maintenance by exactly 6 hours

[lusty hill]

No 4

[winged depot]

[empty mesa]

So close yet so far.

[flat veldt]

Who won in Amagi?

[pseudo copper]

Kotori 😭

[candid sluice]

unultra did

[lusty hill]

I'm glad I emptied all my tries

[neon bronze]

Yostar staff preparing an announcement to extend the maintenance by exactly 5 hours

[marsh sand]

[lusty hill]

If they did I can get eos

[untold crater]

acting like there isnt an extension every maint

[pastel jolt]

Hi, do you have any pvp attempts left? lel

[neon bronze]

lel

[merry vale]

[pastel jolt]

Hello, esteemed individuals of Azur Lane Official's Player-versus-Player channel. Could anyone please rate my Tier 0 Musashi Weeb fleet and its construction? Would love to hear some feedback from the great players here

[stable dawn]

You could potentially get #1 eos with that but I get the feeling you have done so already

[pastel jolt]

My highest is 5th (or 6th) on Amagi

[neon bronze]

Feel like this is something else... but answer nonetheless.
Shinano: Fulmar to Suisei 12a
Hiryuu: Sea Hornet or Flapjack, whichever you prefer, though that VT-17 squadron plane is fine if you have a lack of either
Musashi: Either Plygun or Twin 137 over Nepgun secondary, whichever you prefer

I'll let someone else finish it, about to sleep

[merry vale]

Off the top of my head other than that, sexy bofors or the new UR gun on your Vanguard would be a good upgrade.

I'd maybe give your Yukikaze the pearl and a tool box, give Juneau a boiler for speed.

DDs need hp more than evasion since they come with high evasion and low hp.

[floral wave]

🍿

[pseudo copper]

No advice Brah?

[floral wave]

[final granite]

Do i still receive less points than usual if i fight the person on the left?

[merry vale]

Yes. You will get a 9 for doing that.

[final granite]

Fuck

[merry vale]

You need to be rank 6 to gain a +10.

[final granite]

Hm

So in order to be #1, you just don't use all of your attacks

Even late season

Except maybe at the very end?

[merry vale]

To get #1 eos you sit at 5+/10 the entire season and sandbag for your life.

Rushing sees the top of the ladder more often but you won't end up high on the eos.

It's a food chain.

[final granite]

Which i tried
Thing is i sleep in 2 hours so i just empty my 10/10 everyday before we get 5/10 in 10 minutes

[merry vale]

You ideally hold it till 30 seconds on the final day to truly get a good eos.

[final granite]

Fuck that

[merry vale]

I cba.

I like being at the top of the ladder more often.

[final granite]

Seriously
That just means any error can wreck you lol

[merry vale]

Yes.

[final granite]

By error i mean like something happens in real life that takes time from you

Or you don't beat the opponent first try

[merry vale]

Yep.

Overcapping too.

If you overcap you lose 10 points and can get fucked out of eos.

Can't overcap if you rush.

[candid sluice]

just go about your day like normal and do your tickets whenever convenient

dont make your whole life revolve around azure lane pvp

[trail temple]

People do that?

[pastel jolt]

MK does

[lusty hill]

you guys have life?

[winged depot]

nah bro, we're all robots

[merry vale]

[hollow prairie]

What’s the current best meta fleet?

Haven’t done pvp in a while feel like im outdated

[untold crater]

Something like Musashi/NJ/Shinano/Anchorage/Shimakaze/Juneau

[neon bronze]

#pvp message

also a 3 BB option with any of these three: Musashi, NJ, Vanguard, Warkai, UvH, Seydlitz to add to these 4 fleets I just linked

[hollow prairie]

Thank you! Is who’s Flagship? Musa or NJ or Shin?

[untold crater]

musashi barrage too op

[neon bronze]

Musashi usually

[untold crater]

NJ doesnt need it for hers

and shinanos barrage is just those butterflies

which do nothing

[lusty hill]

does anyone know why sometimes my airstrike can do infinite crash damage and sometimes do almost no crash damage?

I use a meeb with equip like in the pin but I only have one tenrai and one wyvern

[untold crater]

depends on your opponents setup

[lusty hill]

I don't remember but they're a top tier fleet

[candid sluice]

gear difference probably

[lusty hill]

I think some of them use Aquila

[untold crater]

non revealed CVs do 10% more damage

[lusty hill]

That could be it

[sleek saddle]

is vanguard any good in pvp?

[uncut agate]

yes

[little bobcat]

i'm starting to despise anchorage more than shima

[distant thorn]

Nah fuck shima 😮‍💨

[little bobcat]

shima is fucking annoying but at least she dies instantly

anchorage tanks EVERYTHING for shima then stays there the whole fight

[distant thorn]

Both annoying

[merry vale]

Anchorage is dummy thick.

[distant thorn]

If only they would give her a skin

[merry vale]

I want an Anchorage skin.

[stable dawn]

maybe we'll get her new year's skin teased in last year's splash art

[merry vale]

Manju Anchorage stays alive even through acts of God.

I can count on one-hand how often she actually dies on me.

[old portal]

Would the VH armor plating be good on Plymouth since she has light armor?

[uncut agate]

She can't equip VH armour plating and heavy armour takes more dmg from torps and planes

[old portal]

Ohhh right

I read it isn’t even that good but it should work best for heavy armor ships right?

[uncut agate]

it's mostly for opsi mobbing and campaign stages when you're using a CB.
It uses to be good on Amagi way back when Warspite snipes were still prevalent, like 3 years ago.

[lusty hill]

+12

[merry vale]

[winged depot]

nice

[lusty hill]

Another +12 lol

[neon bronze]

Slingshot.

[quartz laurel]

If I'm running meeb with ancho/noshi/Juneau frontline, what gear should I equip all of them with

I also don't have any tenrais

But I do have wyverns

[neon bronze]

what gears do you have on the fleet atm

[quartz laurel]

I haven't put hiryuu in cause I don't have tenrais

Lemme put what I have in fleetmaker to show

[neon bronze]

golddivers and helldivers are fine to use on hiryuu

[quartz laurel]

This is what I have rn for pvp

Idk what torps/aa I should use for noshi and Juneau when I swap them

And if I should move my auxes from shinano to hiryuu

[candid sluice]

put another sexbofors on jun

or if u have the rainbow aa put it on ancho and then give the sex to jun

[quartz laurel]

📝

And it's fine if I just move all the gear from ayanami to noshiro?

[candid sluice]

swap the gun should be fine

not sure how teatorps blacktorp does on noshi tho

might be better to just use magtorps and build tank aux

[quartz laurel]

What tank aux?

Like pearl boiler?

[candid sluice]

rudder shoes

tho u might need to stack speed since theyre gonna be slow

[neon bronze]

2 BB Shinano changes:
Musashi: Plymouth's gun as the Auxillary gun. If unavailable, Twin 137 DD gun from the Gear Lab instead. If neither are available atm, that's fine as it is.
Vanguard: Same Auxillary gun suggestion with Musashi. Swap her Rudder with Anchorage's Beaver Badge.
Shinano: Angel's Feather is an alternative to Frontier Medal. Down to preference between survivability for herself (Angel's Feather), or a bit more dmg for CVs and a bit less dmg for BBs on both sides (FM).
Juneau: SaltyArrow's advice regarding AA guns. If she's oathed, use Gyro. Otherwise, replace her Gyro with a Boiler. Double Boilers are also an alternative option for more speed.
Ayanami: That's fine. Between 76mm and that main gun, the difference doesn't really matter for nearly all situations.
Anchorage: See Vanguard's changes and SaltyArrow. Another option to consider is Cosmic Kicks instead of Rudder for her. The rest are fine.

Meeb request:
Musashi: Twin 410 kai in Gear Lab, Plygun/Twin 137, STAAG, AFCR, Beaver Badge if you use her off-flag. If she is the flagship, WNT is preferred over Beaver Badge.
Hiryuu: Flapjack/Sea Hornet, Golddiver/Helldiver (doesn't have a Tenrai yet, if so, prioritize it on her), Wyvern/Breguet/Barracuda (in decreasing order), WNT, AvGas; if she is the flagship. If she is off-flag, use either Frontier Medal, or a Gold Catapult instead of WNT.
Shinano: Same gear. Angel's Feather is more preferred than Frontier Medal for survivability reasons, though. If Hiryuu's off-flag, have Shinano use Angel's Feather.
The Frontlines: see advice above.

If you only have two Wyverns available, give one Wyvern to Hiryuu and use Breguet/Barracuda, Golddiver/Helldiver (Tenrai can be used if you don't use a 2nd Wyvern on her), and Wyvern for Shinano. Same auxes/aux changes for both CVs. (adding this part just in case you do have this situation)

sorry for wall of text, but it covers what to use to make your fleets better.

[quartz laurel]

Thank you so much!

[neon bronze]

Welcome.

[candid sluice]

I ain’t reading all that 💀

[pseudo copper]

[neon bronze]

I ain't reading all that.
I'm happy for u tho.
Or sorry that happened

[pastel jolt]

I think that if u find that the vanguard is a bit too slow

You can consider using DD over noshiro

so like yukikaze/suzu/any filler

[quartz laurel]

I don't have any idea of whether a vg is too fast or slow

Is there an easy way to tell?

[stable dawn]

do they sink after first airstrike?

[quartz laurel]

Uh usually not?

They get blasted by parallel tops but they usually live

[stable dawn]

speed probably isn't a problem then

[lone fjord]

You cannot kill the Bataan and Akagi-Chan

[winged depot]

Uh

Cool? I guess

[untold crater]

CdL buff

[sweet breach]

my exercise rank is stuck at captain and will not tell me how many points to rank up. is there any way to fix this?

[neon bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/643697081210503168/724535999522144266/rank.PNG

[floral wave]

yeah, check the screen again

[sweet breach]

i did 5 exercises and it does not say how many more points to rank up and the bar looks full (here is before i won 5 exercises and after i won them) do i just need more exp?

[neon bronze]

@sweet breach refer to this chart for the requirements. Rear Admiral Lower Half and the other higher ranks are ranking-dependent, regardless of how many points you have compared to the state of the season and the points of the players.

[neon bronze]

You are at rank 3541 atm

[sweet breach]

it says i have 1050 points

[neon bronze]

RALH requires rank 1000 and above

[sweet breach]

i see

[floral wave]

youre not getting past captain this season

[sweet breach]

i can never get past captain lol

[neon bronze]

don't worry, next season 2 days later you can go above Captain rank

[floral wave]

well then maybe start doing pvp when season starts, not halfway through

[sweet breach]

it resets bro

[floral wave]

thats the point

everything resets when new season starts

[sweet breach]

i do pvp, i usually never get up to 10 possible exercises

[neon bronze]

people will outrank you, so you move too

[sweet breach]

i usually always do them at 5

[floral wave]

are you sure youre not missing one reset per day

theres 15 attempts per day

[sweet breach]

yes and i usually do them i may miss 5 of them some days but i always do at least 10

[floral wave]

doesnt matter

[sweet breach]

do i need to do all of them to get past captain?

also do i have to be 1000 seasonal rank or total rank?

[floral wave]

you need to hit it once in a season to get reward

[winged depot]

current rank needs to be 1000

[floral wave]

and theres no total and seasonal

[winged depot]

1050 points + rank 1000

if not rank 1000 even with 2000 points, then captain forever

[sweet breach]

yeah i dont think that i can do that

[neon bronze]

You can, if you do all exercises

[floral wave]

youre 100 points above me and i havent done a single pvp in 5-6 days

[sweet breach]

but i need to go from 3000 to 1000 right?

[winged depot]

took me a month of playing to get it but I am playing on a friendly server for newbs

[floral wave]

you cant anymore, wait for next season

[neon bronze]

Not possible at this state of the season atm

Only time you could do that is literally early season

[sweet breach]

so since i started playing in early 2021 i cannot get past captain?

[winged depot]

just do your attempts and win it in the early season and you can get it

[neon bronze]

For this season, you can't.

For the next seasons, hell yeah you can.

[winged depot]

next season is on monday

[neon bronze]

On a bi-weekly basis

[floral wave]

season is 2 weeks long

[sweet breach]

but i am 3541 and i need to be 1000 right?

[floral wave]

it resets on monday

[winged depot]

like the 2 are saying, its impossible this season, but next season should be doable

[floral wave]

you wont be 3541

[sweet breach]

so what place am i at in the start of the season?

[winged depot]

same as everyone since its the new season

[warm crow]

same as everyone 0 points

[sweet breach]

does it matter what fleets you fight in pvp?

[floral wave]

if youre not at the point of beating every opponent, yes

if you lose its just as if you didnt do the fight

[neon bronze]

No

But because of the hard fleets you will be encountering later on, a strong fleet is recommended to beat nearly everyone

[sweet breach]

i cannot beat everyone i look for low power fleets and i was just wondering if high power fleets gave more score or something

[floral wave]

bonus points are calculated based on points difference between you and the opponent

[sweet breach]

so if i beat them with my ships barely taking damage then i will move up more?

[floral wave]

no

points as in your score

[warm crow]

its the number beside "seasonal" on the pvp page

[sweet breach]

but seasonal doesn't matter, right?

not for getting higher rank at least

[floral wave]

seasonal = points

[neon bronze]

The "Base Score" section is the points you will get at your rank, e.g. Captain

[floral wave]

and it does matter

[winged depot]

it matters a lot

[floral wave]

for getting past captain you need to be rank 1k or higher AND at least 1050 points

[sweet breach]

what is the highest rank that you all have gotten?

[winged depot]

[floral wave]

highest possible ingame since its pretty easy once you understand the system

and have a decent fleet i guess

[sweet breach]

how many players of each rank can there be?

[floral wave]

theres no limits for that

you need to hit that rank once per season and its done

[warm crow]

you can reach aotn in a season and get kicked out in less than a minute, but you still get the bonus merits

[sweet breach]

what if your fleet is just average?

[floral wave]

then you need to improve it

[neon bronze]

~~ ~~

[warm crow]

maybe if youre playing in amagi its fine since you can get 1 to 2 meme fleets on your list even in top 100

[sweet breach]

ok then, what is the highest rank you can get with an average fleet

i play on lexington

[winged depot]

hard to say

[untold crater]

1

[winged depot]

yukana

[neon bronze]

Technically it's true even with a half-assed fleet

Just expect a lot of resets against ppl with hard defense fleets

[winged depot]

some random guy with an ayanami could get rank 1, that is true

don't know who that guy is

[neon bronze]

[floral wave]

you guys realize his definition of average isnt the same as yours

[winged depot]

can post fleet to sort things out tbh

[untold crater]

got the three musketeers here

[winged depot]

[sweet breach]

i will post my fleet 1 minute i am doing a battle

[neon bronze]

[sweet breach]

i am working on independence right now her level will be 125 in a few weeks

[untold crater]

show dock

[floral wave]

youre better off posting dock

[sweet breach]

i only have a few other level 125 ships and they arent that good

[untold crater]

you are getting nowhere

[floral wave]

neither of these are

[neon bronze]

it's fine, we can see what ships are great to use in the long-run if you post your entire dock, sorted by SRs and URs

[sweet breach]

here are first 3 i can send more if you want

[floral wave]

beth denying juneau and hiryuu again

[neon bronze]

They're the exceptions, there's too much ships. Would count as image spam

[floral wave]

theres no image spam here, this aint gph

[neon bronze]

All for just 2 ships

[warm crow]

you have musashi and shinano, you dont want to use them?

[sweet breach]

they are not level 125 and their gear is not the best

[untold crater]

musashi/shinano/Hiryuu/anchorage/ayanami/juneau

[floral wave]

gear can be swapped

[sweet breach]

i have hiryuu but she is not retro

[neon bronze]

No New Jersey and Vanguard?

[winged depot]

beth, read his name

[sweet breach]

i want to be able to beat the story tho

[neon bronze]

[untold crater]

its like what if i told you that even at their levels theyre still better than your current fleet

[sweet breach]

we do not talk about vanguard...

[neon bronze]

ok... understandable. Yeah, follow Yukana's suggestion

[neon bronze]

it's fine

[floral wave]

gear can be swapped more than once per day

[untold crater]

your gear for pve barely matters

120 it and u clear all until w14

[sweet breach]

i have all of the main fleet ships here but hiryuu is level 90 no retro and i dont have any of the vanguard ships here

[sweet breach]

in the story?

[untold crater]

yeah story u dont need to gear for

[floral wave]

all the vanguards yukana listed are permanent content

[neon bronze]

Juneau, 5-2. Ayanami? Every stage from 2-1 onwards, together with the other 3 starter DDs after MLBing the other 3 starters. Anchorage? PR4, permanent content.

[sweet breach]

i keep dying on 10-4 hard mode

[untold crater]

anchor is free; aya is reward for MLBing the 3 starters; and juneau drops 5-2

[winged depot]

you can get ayanami by mlb'ing the starters

[sweet breach]

i will farm 5-2 now

wait juneau is not even an elite?

[warm crow]

juneau also drops in 11-3, 12-2, and all of w13 so no need to farm non-oilcap

[floral wave]

juneau is elite after retrofit but doesnt need it to be useful in pvp

[sweet breach]

what exactly does oil cap mean?

[neon bronze]

I also recommend clearing out Memento stuff for great gears, e.g. WNT, Beaver Badge, Pearl's Tears. Ergo, you gotta MLB relatively unimportant ships too

[untold crater]

why juneau is good

[sweet breach]

wow

[floral wave]

means if oil cap is 30 and your fleet costs 100 oil to battle it will use only 30 anyway

[sweet breach]

yeah i found the beaver thing a few days ago so i am mlb them now

[neon bronze]

[untold crater]

on every cleared stage starting 9-1

means no matter how expensive my fleet; the oil cost wont surpass this

[sweet breach]

i see

[untold crater]

it goes up a bit with each stage

[sweet breach]

i just got juneau

i had enough exp pack saved up to make her level 33

[floral wave]

now just 5 more copies

or use bulins

[sweet breach]

yeah i used my last 2 purple bulins

it will take forever to get anchorage tho

[floral wave]

why

[sweet breach]

because of the exp grind

i mainly use the royal navy

[floral wave]

then start lvling americans

[sweet breach]

indep retrofit is my only semi high level eagle union ship

[untold crater]

backline uss gives most tp

[sweet breach]

oh she gets exp from backline? that is good i can finally use essex

[floral wave]

no she doesnt

exp is the least relevant part of pr grind

yukana meant backline gives tech points to unlock ancho

[sweet breach]

but its the longest part, for me at least

i have enough tech points to start any ship

[floral wave]

so youre saying grinding xp is going to take longer than obtaining prints?

[sweet breach]

ok now that is close and it depends frm ship to ship

but overall, yes

[untold crater]

juneau is a good start

[floral wave]

just use two american frontlines with a good tank and unicorn retro in any world past w9 that you can comfortably grind

[untold crater]

just level any good uss frontline

[sweet breach]

i thought juneau only gained exp from vanguard?

[untold crater]

juneau+?

u mean anchorage?

[floral wave]

stop too much confusion

[sweet breach]

wait i am researching kitakaze right now

and i have to wait a few hours to develop something else

ok i need to sleep now

[floral wave]

then throw some american frontline into dorm for now

since you cant start grinding ancho xp right away anyway

[pastel jolt]

@untold crater please stop being toxic

[untold crater]

Fair

Shouldn't have excluded you in hindsight

Guess it's the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

[pastel jolt]

[merry vale]

[candid sluice]

[neon bronze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745143627608752179/1064198608330698752/Screen_Recording_20230115_230037_1.mp4

JP's damn crazy. And it's their newest server, to boot

[tropic merlin]

Is this still good?

[floral wave]

yes, except for shinano flagspot

[lime folio]

Did they change the point system?

I'm getting way more off of sandbagging unless I'm schizoing

like something that shouldve been a +11 gave me +12

[floral wave]

the chart isnt 100% accurate, but if its "way more" then youre most likely schizoing

nothing has changed recently

[lime folio]

cause i also saw a friend getting +13

was just checking

[floral wave]

+13 sounds like overcap into someone moving twice

[uncut agate]

+11 at 35 pts difference
+12 at 71 pts difference
+13 at 108 pts difference
nothing's changed

[little bobcat]

is refreshing always worse

[merry vale]

No, it's rng.

When I'm rushing I reroll a lot when I get to the top of the ladder to avoid +9s.

Needing to pull someone rank 10 or better takes a few usually.

[vestal hearth]

if it's in the middle of the set and no one in your list has moved for a long while, I would consider refreshing then to be bad

if you have just won an exercise against a mover and you think the chances aren't great that anyone in your new list are going to move for the rest of the set, or they're going to move very late, and you're not saving refreshes to avoid 9s, then refreshing isn't bad

I should add that this is advice for you only if you're bagging, if you're rushing, save your refreshes for avoiding demerits when you're expending your attempts

[candid sluice]

[azure swan]

silent made a major grammatical mistake, it's "WE mods cannot stand her"

[winged depot]

what's even to look at here?

[candid sluice]

a bit W obviously

[winged depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/948277339396124692.gif?size=64&quality=lossless

[stable dawn]

[little bobcat]

birmingham memes?

i'm feelin an ayanami replacement

[empty mesa]

Low-level pvp.

[pastel jolt]

Hi, do you have any pvp attempts left? lel

[neon bronze]

let him be

[prisma pagoda]

Yes

[violet kernel]

Low level pvp is where the cool shit happens

[pseudo copper]

The cool shit happens when real pvp happens

[coral wren]

Hi how do you get high score in pvp?

[warm crow]

by beating opponents that will give you bonus points as indicated by "min diff" in this image #pvp message

[coral wren]

I have no clue how that works

[warm crow]

if its just aotn, just not losing/missing exercises is enough to get you to admiral of the navy rank every season

[coral wren]

I would like to try out getting to top ranks

[warm crow]

every time you win you get points, the higher the point (roughly determined by rank) difference between you and your opponent, the more bonus points you get

[coral wren]

I'll try this one out, thanks!

[warm crow]

roughly its always waiting for the opponents on your list to do their exercises so that the point difference between you and them increases that when you beat them they will give you bonus points

[coral wren]

What is a good fleet for exercises?

[warm crow]

check the pinned guide

[pseudo copper]

how 2 git gud?

[warm crow]

read beth guides

[neon bronze]

i haven't made any guides

[coral wren]

Beth? As in elizabeth?

I might be missing something here

[neon bronze]

well, except fleet suggestions

[pseudo copper]

Thanks

Time to eos

Btw @warm crow you bagging this season?

[warm crow]

probably not, just ping if you need points

[pseudo copper]

Thanks

[pastel jolt]

Bro, just ping him in CdL server

[candid sluice]

cant im banned there

[pseudo copper]

He was here so I ping here

ALO best server obv

[lusty hill]

how many pvp server are there

[pseudo copper]

Wdym by pvp servers? As in discords?

[lusty hill]

yeah

I know this one and alm, are there other

[pseudo copper]

None that are public, CdL is a guild discord and CC too, CC open though but p much everyone there in ALM

[untold crater]

i know one

amagi ranch server

so pro

[neon bronze]

[pseudo copper]

[torpid shuttle]

do yall prefer torp bulge or just more boilers

and double gyro or boilers on juneau

i remember some dont like hp

[merry vale]

I'm not sure at this point.

[torpid shuttle]

on juneau

im also not sure cos of musashi lasers

[merry vale]

After running cosmic kicks+ 2x boilers I'm seeing my Frontline die a lot more.

But they are also kinda zooming.

Anti torp Juneau+ washing machine Anchorage dies less often for sure.

But speed means they eat tons of extra torps, but also run away from NJ barrages a lot easier.

[deft escarp]

I use gyro+boiler on Juneau

[merry vale]

Although.

When my Anchorage actually dies. It's usually the enemies Anchorage solo vs 2-3 of my backline.

[deft escarp]

Yeah

I'm liking gyro+bulge on Juneau rn because she doesn't get instakilled by Shima preload while dying at the ~15s mark consistently

[merry vale]

I understand that, with higher speed you also do just run into more torps.

[deft escarp]

If the enemy Anchorage survives she's either half hp or have dcp

And Kicks on Anchorage makes the fleet move fast enough to avoid NJ barrage

[merry vale]

I might throw torp bulge back on Juneau.

[deft escarp]

Sometimes both vanguards ram each other right at the start and face torp each other

[merry vale]

I agree with you about shima. That's why I used anti torp bulge a lot

[lusty hill]

I slept for 8 hours and literally nobody climbed

[winged depot]

heh

[floral wave]

7 movers so far

[little bobcat]

the pvp guide shows mic as a niche option for hiryuu, what usage does it have? same with awakening pearl

[floral wave]

hit stat for mic which is good and aa stat which is also good, but it lacks evasion and there are better options

[little bobcat]

i see

what about the pearl?

[floral wave]

what does it even do

oh was it the eva/hit one?

[little bobcat]

eva + hit

[floral wave]

yeah, so basically good stats

eva+hit is usually what you want the most on your backline

[candid sluice]

Mic was used when a lotta carriers were present in meta

Now it’s more of a niche pick

[little bobcat]

i'm still thinking of birmingham it's probably such a bad idea to remove my only decent vanguard dmg but stall woudl be so nice for shima counters rn

aren't her fp and aa absolutely nonexistent tho

[candid sluice]

Only reason u would even consider birmi is if you’re using indep

[little bobcat]

using meeb

[torpid shuttle]

the worst part of pvp is the changing gears holy fk

[empty mesa]

@brave ridge bro can you move?

[pastel jolt]

Mic is pretty good...

[rustic bridge]

Never luck on pvp

[pseudo copper]

Stay Salty

[rustic bridge]

I m to weak for All

[torpid shuttle]

is weeb fleet still competitive vs aquila fleet

[neon bronze]

SaltyBelfast tech.

[candid sluice]

salty gang rise up

[rustic bridge]

I can never win on one of this fleets

[pseudo copper]

Weeb vs Mafia?

[torpid shuttle]

yea

[pseudo copper]

Just use MSN

Musashi, Shinano, NJ

[torpid shuttle]

is that named in the pin guide

ah, alright

guess i just got gated by vanguard dif then

[pseudo copper]

Yeah

Andy is a boomer

[torpid shuttle]

alr

ill be catching up the pvp meta next few reruns

[pseudo copper]

Who you missing?

[neon bronze]

I assume either NJ or Aquila

though missing themm ain't too bad imo

[floral wave]

guys, is fdg fs5 good in pvp

[empty mesa]

Not as good as Warkai.

[brave ridge]

@empty mesa U can move

[empty mesa]

Thanks, bro.

[brave ridge]

btw. i rush this season

[torpid shuttle]

nj shima aquila all

but mainly i'd like shima to change my vanguard

cos im deving harbin atm

[pseudo copper]

Just use Meeb then with Harbin ig, though not as good as Shima since

[torpid shuttle]

hmm, my musa shina hiryuu is well equipped

[pseudo copper]

But most times you can clear with ease anyways

[torpid shuttle]

i just got gated by vanguard dif a couple times

[pseudo copper]

Not many people run proper def fleets

[torpid shuttle]

yeah, but it's sad when i have to give up a good sandbag

[merry vale]

Only specific assholes do that.

[empty mesa]

[lusty hill]

No 9

[pseudo copper]

#1000

[stable dawn]

whoa is that the EN tourney winner at #2???

[winged depot]

dudes smurfing again

[stable dawn]

p sure that's his main

[winged depot]

ye its a compliment my dear bongo

[stable dawn]

[pseudo copper]

@glossy fulcrumer

Ffs

Sorry

Discord is shit

[empty mesa]

Guys, who won Amagi?

[candid sluice]

Unultra

[neon bronze]

Unultra

[pseudo copper]

Beth Log won this reset, Unultra won by retiring

[whole salmon]

Notice

Fate 5 FDG’s barrage no longer hit concealed CVs cus it has been changed from fixed to aimed

[vestal hearth]

damn...

my FdG clincher...

[merry vale]

Hidden nerf.

[vestal hearth]

I'm unsubscribing

[whole salmon]

Use Fate Sim 4 FDG or something idk

[candid sluice]

fate4 new meta??

[golden lantern]

hello, i have no azur lane knowledge and im here to ask whats better for Anchorage - roomba or ur weapon from the gear lab

[velvet tapir]

when i was waiting for restock around 5 second and hours at 8:00 AM i suddenly got 10 attempts

[deft escarp]

[trail temple]

Anyone able to track their pvp rewards? I have a feeling the bonuses have been messed with

[restive elbow]

Is good?

[winged depot]

nope

[lusty hill]

if you managed to get aotn reward you should get around 32k each season

this were my past records, ignore the first two those was when I was cringe in pvp, the last one I just stopped counting

[trail temple]

Sorry for the ambiguity, I am talking about bonuses

+1, +2, etc.

[whole salmon]

A bit

I got a +19 when it felt like it should have been a +18 or a +17

It was a rank 1.5k ish vs a rank 300 fight

[trail temple]

I was hitting people in the low 100s when I was 2k and only got +17, normally that's a +18

Hard to verify since not in top 100

[whole salmon]

Weird, now that’s the opposite

Yeah hard to verify

@trail temple also they said they are patching FDG

So ig we can’t give conclusion quite yet

Man, what a pain

[trail temple]

I know they like to make KMS ships bad, but they did out do themselves this time

/s

[little bobcat]

fighting someone unironically running manjuu / pearl juneau and it makes me wanna kill myself

i need to stop afking pvp

[pseudo copper]

Tried to #gitgud?

[candid sluice]

Losing to manjuneau?? 💀

[little bobcat]

no i won it was just annoying

i just have really bad luck

[little bobcat]

taking 20 resets for a single fight is skill issue

[pseudo copper]

Yeah, you shouldn't go past 1 if your comp is good, 0 against Juneau manjuu

[little bobcat]

i'm literally missing the 1 ship that matters lmfao

no shima

but i have everyone else maxed out except a few ur gear

[pseudo copper]

[little bobcat]

how do u manage to be so inhumanly intolerable

is saying skill issue constantly ur only redeeming quality

[pseudo copper]

Yeah

[little bobcat]

baah

[stable dawn]

[pastel jolt]

@winged depot Hello, is shimakaze good?

I heard someone was able to consistently get EoS and AoTN without Shimakaze. Is this true?

Shimakaze is such a broken ship! How will I ever be able to live without her?

[winged depot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1064418362941255811/4A382285-7320-4D74-A6B0-56A1769F0B3C.gif

[floral wave]

no way rank1 eos is possible without shimakaze

[pseudo copper]

Shimakaze is a must for aotn

[floral wave]

[winged depot]

This definitely didn't happen without shima

nor without nj, yeppers

[pastel jolt]

[neon bronze]

[pseudo copper]

Hacking

[floral wave]

hacking ayanami proc rate, surely

[winged depot]

True, check him pc

[trail temple]

Think Gorrillaz did it a couple of times before his Meeb fleet was ready

[little bobcat]

running meeb without shima is pain

[floral wave]

its not

[winged depot]

Its not

[little bobcat]

say that to my aya doing 0 dmg

[whole salmon]

Then why use Aya

[floral wave]

use harbin

[little bobcat]

i don't have better

[floral wave]

or noshiro

[little bobcat]

don't have

don't have

[whole salmon]

Skill issue

[winged depot]

I used aya on this one my guy

Shinaryu, musashi with ayanami

[little bobcat]

then you got lucky

[winged depot]

Nope

well getting those bonus points are lucky I guess

[floral wave]

or just stop using meeb, run triple bb to guarantee vanguard fight win

[whole salmon]

Pvp isn’t about how strong your fleet is

You just need a strong enough one to get bonus

[pastel jolt]

noshiro

unaware player truly

[whole salmon]

The rest is about how you play

You can have a strong fleet but still have skill issue when playing

[floral wave]

i used noshiro before

[pastel jolt]

Bro also brought in harbin, almost as if you can have enough speed with 2 cl

[whole salmon]

Wasting refresh trying to fish rushers only to get nothing then eating +9s

[whole salmon]

You do

Have enough speed

[winged depot]

[pastel jolt]

sure

[little bobcat]

send what gear you used

[pastel jolt]

Maybe when u play without shima u will see

[whole salmon]

Just run 2 boiler 2 heels on Ancho and Harbin

Boiler Bulge Juneau

[winged depot]

Give me a bit

[whole salmon]

Beaver backline

Still works

Heals + Boiler is meta after all

[pastel jolt]

You do know that’s not enough? Shima buffs her own speed + Harbin with 2x speed does nothing ingame

[whole salmon]

It is enough speed, you don’t need to be zooming around the map to be considered “enough speed”

[pastel jolt]

maybe if you tried playing without shima, you would have more credibility

[winged depot]

On the top of my head, since I don't use it anymore

[little bobcat]

oh magtorp that's why you won

[winged depot]

Whut

[floral wave]

magtorp juneau the gamechanger

[little bobcat]

my bad i forget you're all fucking braindead

[floral wave]

prolly means the black one

[little bobcat]

black torp

[little bobcat]

oh black torp that's why you won

[floral wave]

then just run yukikaze

[winged depot]

Before ayanami I used a yukikaze with no black torp

got t10

[floral wave]

im not even using teatorps currently

[little bobcat]

how do your ayanamis even hit

[floral wave]

the secret is to not use ayanami

[little bobcat]

i don't think using another dd would fix the issue of a full set of torps hitting and doing literally 0 dmg to a vanguard

because anchorage unfair

[floral wave]

[little bobcat]

that's literally my whole issue with ayanami

[winged depot]

Hmm when I was still using her if lucky enough she kills the whole frontline or just delete one backline except musashi

No matter how much she tries she can't oneshot musashi

[little bobcat]

30 resets for a single mediocre frontline fight is pain

i guess i'm jsut too unlucky to play pvp

[winged depot]

Tbh, at least you have a musashi rn I started with vanguard, perseus, warkai and it was anything but easy

[merry vale]

Richelieu Warkai and Percy.

[winged depot]

my early days were nightmares

[floral wave]

my first aotn was richie, uvh, chise

[candid sluice]

My first was with long island enterprise

[stoic moon]

u guys got ur firsts already?

[winged depot]

Bub

[stable dawn]

show ship and gear setup.

[untold crater]

akaga hood for aotn

[neon bronze]

Vanguard Warkai Percy iirc for mine. And a subpar frontline

still haven't got aotn eos

[pseudo copper]

Stop pvping on boats

[neon bronze]

Stopped doing that already

For the foreseeable future

[little bobcat]

missing a few ur gears and +13s on backline but it's not like it matters because main isn't the issue here

juneau sometimes switches to double boiler / double gyro, anchorage sometimes gets sex bofors

also forgot to change nano's db

it's usually comet

[pseudo copper]

Bow and quad mag oxy Aya

[little bobcat]

i wasn't here for black torp so

[pseudo copper]

Just drop Aya

[little bobcat]

i don't have a replacement

[pseudo copper]

Or cope with parallel no black torp

[trail temple]

Bub on his away to becoming an aotn wizard

[unreal leaf]

what are your expectations for fs5 fdg after theyll patch bugged barrage

[candid sluice]

new meta

[unreal leaf]

new meta :pogu:

Musashi + FdG tanks cows

[neon bronze]

FdG fs5 barrage is bugged?

[static tartan]

https://streamable.com/a0uht8

[lusty hill]

Huh I didn't know the needles were that powerful

[torpid shuttle]

[merry vale]

[floral wave]

3 strike hiryuu strong

[merry vale]

According to nuygen, they've fixed fdgs barrage. Not sure if we got the patch yet.

[floral wave]

they did

but it doesnt hit cvs

[merry vale]

Still though. For a coinable fs5 she's not the worst for pvp now if you lack tons of meta backliners.

Some of her inconsistencies were fixed by her fs5, she's not quite as blind anymore either.

[floral wave]

i guess

still not swapping my seyd

sms > kms

[spark locust]

Agir

And yeah I'm still running old meta because I'm too lazy to change

[floral wave]

if it works, it works

[steel coral]

good skin

[candid sluice]

Based agir enjoyers

[winged depot]

The feet skin

[floral wave]

still doesnt beat noshiro/indep

[trail temple]

It's a KMS ship, ofc it doesn't

[lusty hill]

is skyraider better than helldiver in pvp?

[merry vale]

Skyraider is better than a helldiver if you aren't running 2x wyvern with it otherwise it's too slow.

[lusty hill]

Nice

It's for hiryuu

[merry vale]

If you lack a tenrai then yeah go ahead and throw skyraider on Hiryuu.

[heady creek]

Can someone explain to me why friedrich is doing so poorly its been going on since I've gotten her and it's driving me crazy

[merry vale]

Yes.

Her gun is bad and so are both her auxes and her AA gun isn't good either.

Your fdg isn't dev 30 either.

So she's missing most of her power.

[heady creek]

I know her aux aren't great but like cmon 2k thats it

What gun does she need?

[lusty hill]

your gun isn't +10 and not dev30, it could be that the fight ended before she fired anything

[heady creek]

She fired at least twice

[merry vale]

She has -1 mgm which means she tickles even if she hits.

[heady creek]

Mgm?

[merry vale]

Main gun mount.

It means fdg is at least 30-50% weaker than she could be.

This is roughly how I'd build pvp fdg.

The bottom gun if you lack a 457.

[heady creek]

The mgm problem is because of not being dev 30 then?

[merry vale]

Yes.

Fdg tickles till dev 30 for that exact reason.

[heady creek]

Gah

Alright

Well thanks for the info

[merry vale]

Fdgs fatesim 5 is also a good buff too.

I recommend fs5 her.

[heady creek]

I plan too I know she can be busted it's just gonna take me a while

[merry vale]

[deft escarp]

Maybe stick to FS4 for now

[pastel jolt]

Better to use helldiver, rockets are quite unreliable in pvp and you should keep hiryuu/shinano launch times closer together

[lusty hill]

Ok then

[trail temple]

Serenity trying to take less than 10 mins trying to beat Famine with unorthodox setups?

[lusty hill]

I was wondering since skyraider have higher hp than helldiver and maybe rocket could oneshot shimakaze

Like I could cover my lack of NJ with musashi but nothing can replace shimakaze

Not having shimakaze is the greatest deadweight in pvp

[floral wave]

oh no, another one

[pseudo copper]

Though he says people without top ships should quit but isn't following up on it, so made this https://chng.it/CjjJ22S9

[floral wave]

[neon bronze]

Lel

[lusty hill]

💀

[winged depot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1064418362941255811/4A382285-7320-4D74-A6B0-56A1769F0B3C.gif

[candid sluice]

[brazen socket]

what do u guys think of fdgs5 over nj

[empty mesa]

Straight upgrade.

[pseudo copper]

[deft escarp]

[deft escarp]

I think I'll try out FdG

[fleet laurel]

which gun best for juneau in pvp?

[pseudo copper]

Would be smth along lines of twin 114, in future can just check pin

[vague fox]

Been a bit now, how is York2 stacking up against Shinano? Specifically with Musashi/Hiryuu

[candid sluice]

she doesnt

[neon bronze]

sushi - hiryuu - yk2n... yk2n doesn't benefit from 2 wyvern bcs of her loadout
plus, shinano would fit in more than yk2n there because of musashi, hiryuu that'll buff her dmg output, a bit of synergy for running these ships.

only usecase I'll see Yk2n viable in a PvP comp is Yk2n - Enterprise/Essex-class CV - Indep retro 3 CV variant. Or replace one of the CVs with New Jersey.

Point is, Yk2n's practically niche here.

[vague fox]

Got it, thanks. Have Shinano at 125 but never MLB'd her, guess it's finally time

[untold crater]

What's the thought process

[lusty hill]

Apparently if you get your score just below the promotion and you get bonus, you could get even more score than you would normally got if you promoted first

[winged depot]

1049 tech

[candid sluice]

weve all been doing that already

[lusty hill]

not me

is this how you guys get to eos?

[pastel jolt]

It's like early season matters

[pastel jolt]

Any gun works well on her but generally you go for AA minmax

[merry vale]

So, stop me if I'm being stupid here.
But I'm thinking of dropping Hiryuu for fs4/5 Fdg and just shoving Musashi flag without wnt. Anyone worth caring about will already have wnt on their flagships anyways and they don't stack. Fdg seems like new copium if you lack NJ.

[neon bronze]

Been thinking the same.

Though I'll wait for me geting my own FdG to Fs5 before I say smth about it

[merry vale]

If I wait till midnight mine Is already fs4.

Then again.

Flagship fdg sounds kinda dope.

Flagship with wnt, she gets her 20% damage reduction off her skill and she gets a bonus for being taken down to 30%.

But I think flag shipping her wouldn't be worth it at fs5. Since flag gives Musashi's barrage a much better position to hit the Vanguard.

[neon bronze]

True. As I've read, fs5 makes her viable to go off-flag, since her barrages now aren't position-reliant. Image related

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[merry vale]

I'll flag her with wnt till I get fs5.

She's also 2x the hp of Hiryuu so that has some value as a preload sponge.

[fickle echo]

@little bobcat Hi, do you have any pvp attempts left? lel

[little bobcat]

yea i have 5 left

i haven't done this reset's exercises

[fickle echo]

Can you use them?

[little bobcat]

no

[fickle echo]

[little bobcat]

im doing opsi rn

[fickle echo]

I didn't mean right now, anytime before the reset

[little bobcat]

oh yea i probably will

[winged depot]

hi Ari

[fickle echo]

[wicked surge]

That is a pretty easy to kill fleet

[little bobcat]

all fleets are easy to kill if you have existing luck

attacker bonus

[merry vale]

[neon bronze]

[whole salmon]

The disadvantage of which is also there

It being aimed now means that she can no longer target concealed CVs

Which pre Fate 5 FDG can do

With bonus of using burn to spot them

It being aimed also have the chance of targeting the frontline

And with how slow the shells fly, you know what’s in store for you

Not saying that Fate 5 isn’t worth it, just that some people look for that niche of fixed barrage that FDG has for some comp to work

[neon bronze]

[whole salmon]

There used to be a niche comp of Richelieu and FDG

Where their fixed barrage HE shell burns would auto spot CVs

So you can run triple BB

This comp isn’t as viable anymore but just a proof of concept worth noting out there

[neon bronze]

kk, noted

won't stop my NJ coping though

[whole salmon]

Seems a bit lacking for pvp, her DPS isn’t high enough to make up for lack of survivability. She also doesn’t bring anything too spectacular

[gritty cove]

What's the opinion on the new main fleet aa guns? The "long range" fan shape thing

[gritty cove]

Fair

[merry vale]

Yeah it's pretty trash.

It could've been something cool, but it turned out to be dead on arrival.

[untold crater]

best

[brave ridge]

[candid sluice]

whos that guy

[untold crater]

@rustic bridge is that you

[winged depot]

that guy sus

[merry vale]

[rustic bridge]

no

this is my Ac my best ships

[winged depot]

omg its saltybelfast, big fan

[lusty hill]

Very strong opponent, literally took me 10 minutes to beat him, and by the time I managed to beat him apparently his hiryuu live literally 1s longer than mine and I ended up losing

Also it seems he use multiple wyvern rendering my airstrike useless, will craft more wyvern if I met another crazy strong opponent again

Good thing his NJ doesn't use manjuu, it would be impossible to beat if she has manjuu

[merry vale]

You lost to Donald Trump. In other words, you got walled.

If you run into my team let me know how that goes, I'm now curious.

[lusty hill]

His shimakaze is literally broken like in a few run my ayanami managed to oneshot his NJ and Shinano with preload, but for some reason his shimakaze already decimated my vanguard and killed one of my backline

[merry vale]

Yep, she does that.

I wonder if he's running glass cannon Shima.

[pseudo copper]

Serenity is Avrora

[winged depot]

wrong donald trump on amagi

its zurump

[merry vale]

Ahhh.

Sorry my bad.

I've ran into Donald Trump a few times on amagi.

[winged depot]

wondering if its the same person

[lusty hill]

I hope the next UR can replace shimakaze, ayanami literally contributed as much as Juneau

[merry vale]

Triple torp preload??

Also let's be real.

Shima+ her usurper would still be in pvp.

You'd stack them to guaranteed nuke the Vanguard and backline.

Who needs Juneau when your entire Frontline kills the enemies immediately.

[uncut agate]

defender's vanguard starts closer to your main fleet, defence has an advantage when it comes to torps

[lusty hill]

Welp you're right lol

It's at least a year for shimakaze rerun

[merry vale]

NJ this year though.

Can't wait.

Musashi NJ Shinano all the way baby.

[lusty hill]

Well more BB is better when shimakaze breach the backline

[merry vale]

I'm still probably running manju Anchorage.

Keeping your Frontline alive so the enemy Vanguard isn't face hugging your backline is pretty important.

Every time I see someone's Anchorage blow up early I just laugh.

[lusty hill]

It makes little difference when I fought shimakaze

Cuz 50% of the time my fleet decimated their backline but shimakaze decimated my vanguard and it ended up with musashi having to kill whoever still alive with her secondary gun

Most of the time it's either anchorage, shimakaze, or duca abruzzi

[winged depot]

haven't seen shimakaze oneshot my vg anymore

not even juneau

[merry vale]

The only time I saw it happen was when I was using kicks+ double boiler.

[pseudo copper]

People look at fights?

[merry vale]

Both vanguards were point blank torping eachother.

[winged depot]

true

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1066562820336009226/chillHead.gif

[merry vale]

Kicks boiler and anti torp bulge has fixed Shima doing any kind of significant damage to my Frontline.

[unreal leaf]

hello

Avrora 5/10 seasonal points check

curious if i have any chances for top 10 on final seasonal rank

[unreal leaf]

Vive shima rerun 🤬

give

[pseudo copper]

What's your pace?

[unreal leaf]

would be #1 with 2 points more than current #1 if rushed 5 left

no luck for rushers last 2 days

only 1-2 ppl with bonus each reset

😵‍💫😵‍💫

[pseudo copper]

I mean current score

[unreal leaf]

1286

[winged depot]

at 0/10?

[unreal leaf]

5/10

dont feel like using those 5

[winged depot]

that's 16 points below me and i'm on break

[unreal leaf]

:/

[pseudo copper]

If going for eos you don't 0/10, but atm your pace isn't too good

Can make it up maybe

[unreal leaf]

looking for that

[pseudo copper]

In general continue bagging to familiarise yourself with people that move for next season

[unreal leaf]

y once went for 0/10 and couldnt avoid 9pts

[unreal leaf]

haha doing spreadsheet with potential rushers