pvp

[floral wave]

stall offensive

[neon bronze]

Hacker detectado

!!

[untold crater]

[winged depot]

Yukana

[untold crater]

Veston bro

Did you overcap

[winged depot]

Nah, I'm just on break

+1s every reset

[merry vale]

https://i.imgur.com/pgwFY1s.png

We're still pretty close in score.

[trail temple]

@delicate owl So what's your winrate like?

[trail temple]

Didn't see this until after I posted

[floral wave]

actually, do i use double dd gun or dd+aa for seyd

[untold crater]

Not 100% smh

[pseudo copper]

Matcha ran into Unultra

It's excused loses

[deft escarp]

Ultra when he un

[warm crow]

I've been trying double wyvern + cuda dive bomber on shinano and it seems pretty good. At best, I've seen it erase ~60-70% Musashi with full HP while only sacrificing a bit of reload time (around 0.5-0.6s?). Anyone else care to test it if it's more consistent than suisei 12A?

[untold crater]

12A better

[warm crow]

cause its faster?

[untold crater]

Jes

Better for duels

[warm crow]

makes sense. though lately all my fights make musashi/ancho the last one standing so I never got into a shinano duel scenario

[untold crater]

That's the most likely scenario yea

[warm crow]

btw, when hiryuu sinks does the wnt effect gets dispelled?

[untold crater]

I think so? iirc all buffs/debuffs stay unless gear/skill has "while this ship is afloat" clause

[neon bronze]

Shit. Outbagged.

I doubt I could get T100 at this rate pepeg

[untold crater]

What pace? @neon bronze

[neon bronze]

3 mins b4 last reset

[untold crater]

That's

Top25 ish pace

[neon bronze]

If consistent +51 or +52?

[untold crater]

+52 top 15

+51 top 30

U should +2 easy

Esp with soon AoTn rush

[neon bronze]

Yep

[barren patio]

why is juneau good?

[untold crater]

Heal

[neon bronze]

Think our legit gamer (FlaccidTorp) also en route to AotN rush so certified +11 or +12

[neon bronze]

Her heal when she sinks

Heals 25% of the other ship's health

[barren patio]

oh cool ty

I dont really have any of the teams shown yet. Who can I use for now?

[neon bronze]

holy based, Anchorage

Show all of your SRs and URs in dock rn

The only exception that's viable in lower rarities is Juneau

Hmm, frontline is Anchorage - Ayanami (w/ her unique Augment) - Noshiro/Juneau

[barren patio]

there arent that many and my onl UR is sandy xd, 1 sec ill get em all

[loud peak]

what does the point differential need to be to get +11?

oh nvm, just scrolled down the pins

[high lichen]

Thats the first time i see someone with akashi

[trail temple]

Did you have a look at the budget fleet section too?

I am going to restructure it a bit but has copium ships to deal with situations where people don't have ships x, y or z

[untold crater]

Man

This is one scuffed dock

Unikai/Hiryuu/Warspite/Ancho/Helena/Juneau maybe works

[trail temple]

Noshi might provide more benefit than Helena, it's unlikely that Warspite will be firing within that period and if it does, you're gimping either helena or warspite

Actually

Fuck

You have ayaya

run with that

[delicate owl]

99.97% but it's rounded up to 100%. All my losses happened back in 2020 when I was still trying to get my maiden eos podium

[delicate owl]

Yup I ran into him for the first time but it was during the final reset so I can't intentionally lose against him

[pseudo copper]

Not even M-lord can be safe from Unultra

[barren patio]

wait why?

[vestal raptor]

Is there any tournament running atm?

[neon bronze]

Most of us (well, ppl who frequent #gameplay-help and here) know she's bad for any content

Even her heal gimmick... lmao just use Unicorn retrofit

[barren patio]

ye i wasnt really wondering about her mechanics

[neon bronze]

Nope, ALM pvp ended last, last season

[vestal raptor]

Is it better to snipe fast or stall with Meeb comp?

[trail temple]

Yeah, the ALM tournament ended already, won't be one for a while I think

[trail temple]

Generally principle of meeb is outlasting and overwhelming the opposition with planes. This is the high level answer

Defence fleets generally aim to stall where as Offence fleets aim to clear as quickly and consistently as possible

[vestal raptor]

Ooo

Some of the really strong Meeb I encountered was pretty scary. Everytime their CVs launch, it looks like a thick cloud of planes on the screen and massive dmg to everything

[trail temple]

So, depending on what your circumstance is, will dictate what the answer will be

That's the intention for meeb

[high lichen]

Well i still am doing akashi's side mission/task and its a real pain in the ass rn

And i dont think i saw alot of peeps showing their docks having akashi, tho since i saw akashi being an SR ship and a green gear am really wanting to speedrun my credit card then oath her

[candid sluice]

most players have akashi they just dont bother showing it

[neon bronze]

i have not finished her quest, she looks like she's going to spook me in wanted banners

[pastel jolt]

[winged depot]

[stoic moon]

guys can we rename the channel to amagi-colluders

[feral orbit]

helldiver and breguet to suisei kai and wyvern on shinano
helldiver and breguet to tenrai and wyvern on hiryuu

besides these, are there any other improvements i can make to this fleet?

[neon bronze]

I'll rush for you and give an +11 or +12 if these guys can move 5 attempts for me

[winged depot]

Switch the wyvern and breguet slots and instead of white shell go for a beaver badge on musashi and if you can sextuple on anchorage too

[feral orbit]

oh shoot lmfao i just realized the aa gun on anchorage LOL

[winged depot]

Feels like you should put a twin 410 kai too as a main since there's no conflict

[neon bronze]

410kai for dmg, there's no NJ 457

[winged depot]

oh yeah, the feather too instead of the idk what's the name of the gold aux in your shina

[feral orbit]

ok updated

[winged depot]

Looks good atm

[neon bronze]

What frontier medal do

Forgor

[feral orbit]

cv damage up bb damage down 10%

[winged depot]

Make sure to flag hiryuu

[neon bronze]

And have Musashi directly oppose the more annoying off-flag ship to deal with e.g. Aquila

[floral wave]

tbh id give harbin and juneau actual guns instead of aa statsticks

[winged depot]

true like twin 128 or something

[floral wave]

8*

127 is the american twin

[winged depot]

sorry

[warm crow]

which is better between twin 135 (italian DD gun) vs twin 128 for juneau?

[floral wave]

id rather use 128 on juneau and pompeo gun on harbin if you use her

sap if juneau is the lone cl in fleet doesnt seem thst good

[warm crow]

i'm using aya juneau atm

[floral wave]

and 128 pierces

[warm crow]

[floral wave]

what was juneau gun eff again? brb

[warm crow]

105

[floral wave]

wanted to check ingame

but 36 mb update

yeah just 128 i guess

[warm crow]

aight, thanks

imagine getting a +9 while testing cause you're expecting manjuu ancho/nj but they don't have it equipped

[floral wave]

helena manjuu

[neon bronze]

t100 and AotN (not EoS though) doable?

[floral wave]

t100 and aotn 100%

wouldnt be surprised with top50

[neon bronze]

[floral wave]

im 16 behind you

[empty mesa]

Hope I can get AotN too.

[floral wave]

only 1 season left to try not to overcap at all

[neon bronze]

i am in your walls

[merry vale]

2065 with 5/10

[neon bronze]

finished my 5 attempts, here's your cue to rush

deathkt, veston and nomico

should be +11 for you

now all that's left to do is to not oversleep and overcap stuff

or should i rush over daniel toda

[merry vale]

I think I over capped either 2 or 4.

[sterile tinsel]

I fckng lost 3+ point due to this trash randomiser...

Giving me only lower,than me

[floral wave]

dont rush then

[sterile tinsel]

Game-i lo e you

[sterile tinsel]

I'm going to sleep now

I must do this now...

Or +90 would be lost...

I don't want to wake up in the middle of the night cause of game

[floral wave]

fair

[sterile tinsel]

[neon bronze]

[neon bronze]

wait is deathkt a free +11

lemme log in later

[merry vale]

[neon bronze]

daniel is at 2141, t5 after them are all on 2130s

nvm

[neon bronze]

2123

[merry vale]

Yeah rip, I'm only 2115 if I finish my last 5.

[hasty shadow]

What's the current meta fleet?

[merry vale]

Meeb or Musashi mafia. Both are in the pins.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BewmBsf4EWKAf_UwYax05c7ksL51y6sjs96pIwD73Jc/edit?usp=sharing

[hasty shadow]

Nice

[hasty shadow]

So Hiruyuu is still meta?

[neon bronze]

For the most part, yea.

[neon bronze]

Thought I left the game eith a 4/10 and shook myself

Just a 10/10 rn,don'y knoe if i overcapped. 1 h and 15 min since the last restock.

[merry vale]

Rip.

Hope you didnt overcap.

[neon bronze]

The image showed I lefr it at 5/10, so it didn't.

Just... not sure. Woke up extremely early today, too cold

[merry vale]

I got lucky and someone rushed to rank 1 after reset.

[wheat torrent]

Love the glasses fleet

[merry vale]

2089 at 8/10

That guy rushing got me my first +12 in a while.

[winged depot]

Based

[winged depot]

based cheshire enjoyers

[valid oxide]

This is roughly what I could make somewhat soon, I don't know who is a passable substitute for anchorage though. Should I put hsfcr on sushi instead? I think this fleet would trigger amagi fast load

Please ignore some of the poor gear choice, I don't have much

[floral wave]

thats uh, prettu bad gearing tbh

[valid oxide]

I know

[floral wave]

and for last slot you could use yukikaze or helena with manjuu

suzutsuki could work aswell

shells arent a good choice either

you want hpfcr+ eva/hit aux

[valid oxide]

So hsfcr + sg radar?

[floral wave]

sword instead of bowgun too

yeah sg radar is the cheapest substitute i guess

[valid oxide]

Il go look through what I have and change some things

[floral wave]

beaver tag, washington naval treaty, pearl tears, manjuu

[valid oxide]

Who should tears go on

[floral wave]

ideally not juneau

depends on who youre going to use for 3rd slot

if its something tanky, then noshiro i guess

if not, maybe that 3rd unit

[valid oxide]

Poikai ok for 3rd unit?

I have Helena but still need to get manjuu

[floral wave]

try poi then

[merry vale]

She's still pretty much wet paper though.

I had to stop using her.

[valid oxide]

Also is my hiryu gear fine?

[floral wave]

for poverty, yeah

could swap the tank for actual avi fuel

if you have it

[merry vale]

You'd still want wmt and avi fuel ideally.

[valid oxide]

I think I can get Avi fuel now

[floral wave]

if thats gonna hurt your other core shop choices dont do it for now

[merry vale]

Whats your dock looking like for Vanguards?

[valid oxide]

Not the best

[merry vale]

Yeah I'd rock poikai but don't make her your main tank imo.

[valid oxide]

Who would go main then

[merry vale]

She'd also like the pearl tear.

Noshiro i guess and she might really want an anti torp bulge.

Against Shimakaze anything to keep your Frontline standing against her helps a ton.

[valid oxide]

Thank you

[merry vale]

Anti torp on Juneau too I could argue.

Especially since your Frontline is kinda fragile.

[floral wave]

and blue gun musashi

you dont have time to spare with this frontline

[merry vale]

Yeah.

This blue guy right here.

[floral wave]

or the non gear lab version

[merry vale]

I'd say noshiro tank Juneau off tank. Put poi in the middle with a pearl tear.

Both tank and off tank definitely want anti torp bulges.

That'll buy you you most time.

I might argue anti torp bulges on poi.

One wrong crit and she's dead.

[floral wave]

eh, probably just tears+toolbox

[merry vale]

[floral wave]

or fire extinguisher

[valid oxide]

Poi can't equip anti torp

[merry vale]

Ahh okay yeah nvm.

Fire extinguisher or toolbox would work.

[floral wave]

too smol for bulge

[valid oxide]

How much better is this and would it be better to put German DD gun on Juneau

[floral wave]

you have only one of that gun?

[valid oxide]

I nearly have one of that gun

I don't do much opsi

[floral wave]

then just on poi

also magnetic quads if you have them

overe the ones youre using

either juneau or noshiro gets the crossbow aug aswell

5% aint much but its better than nothing

[valid oxide]

I unfortunately have no quad mags

[floral wave]

then these will have to suffice for now

[valid oxide]

I know what I need to farm for now, thank you

[floral wave]

the most important are the auxes tbh

beaver and naval treaty

[merry vale]

Yeah both are insanely good.

Put that beaver on your Musashi when you get it.

[floral wave]

wnt on musashi if musashi flsg

and beaver on amagae

if hiryuu flag then wnt hiryuu and beaver musashi

[merry vale]

I'd argue for moving musashi off flag overall.

[valid oxide]

Are amagi debuffs skills of any significance?

[merry vale]

Hiryuu flag is really nice for drawing all the preload burst.

[floral wave]

they probably are

a bit

[valid oxide]

Is wnt Washington naval treaty?

[merry vale]

Yeah.

[floral wave]

yep

[valid oxide]

I don't think I have that

[merry vale]

It's really good.

[floral wave]

you need to mlb northampton class CAs for that

[valid oxide]

Ah

[neon bronze]

First AotN doable

[winged depot]

You can do it now

[warm crow]

that's a risky climb. you're prob gonna take 2-3 +9s

i took 4 +9s to get to 2200 lul

[neon bronze]

Haven't used at least 3 of my resets

Ima spend my first 5 attempts then see if that's doable

[warm crow]

[neon bronze]

Also recording for epic gaming

Suffering starts today. Very risky, as Zirael said.

Only hope to get 1 +9. Preferably with the last exercise

[warm crow]

next reset in 20 minutes, you can rush asap then

[trail temple]

Honestly, better to do it next reset yeah

[deft escarp]

Man

Only at 5/2172

[floral wave]

[trail temple]

@neon bronze You know you're gonna screw over your refreshes at this point?

r28, you're gonna start getting +9s

[warm crow]

stall defense fleet?

[deft escarp]

Should I claim a +1 rn or wait after reset for a potential +2?

[deft escarp]

[trail temple]

I did say that you'll screw yourself over doing that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[neon bronze]

Only one +9 so far

[trail temple]

With 0 refreshes

You'll get it next reset

[delicate owl]

[neon bronze]

Lmao

[floral wave]

ayo, im useful

pog

[neon bronze]

Thought that was you against me lol

[floral wave]

dont even know if it works and had to unequip gears to gear up the actual fleet to win against weeb

[warm crow]

just the seyd and hiryuu invul is annoying for rushers

[floral wave]

hence hiryuu not flag pos

idk whats the interval for gear update tho

[warm crow]

i think its every x:00 though I just read it here some time ago

[floral wave]

well then its gonna be weak once reset drops

first

wait

wrong screen ree

[merry vale]

https://i.imgur.com/YCUnTo3.png

[floral wave]

discord being dumb not seeing screenshots to upload lately

[merry vale]

Now i can chill and not eat anymore 9s.

EoS wasn't completely nuked.

[pastel jolt]

Your EoS would not have been good anyways

Better to eat 9s and take 100 merit fight

[merry vale]

[deft escarp]

Is 2580 good enough for Snadi eos

[stable dawn]

Did Beth Log make aotn?

[pseudo copper]

No

2190 with +9 on list

[pastel jolt]

[pastel jolt]

He made it already

[pseudo copper]

Oh yeah, made it this reset

[stable dawn]

[pseudo copper]

Forgot it reset, I'm retired

[pastel jolt]

Mlord can feed +2?

Or zero

[deft escarp]

Man

My Reisalin is gonna be impotent

[neon bronze]

@floral wave its done, hust going to send my video recording

[floral wave]

send a screenshot in alm submission

[neon bronze]

Damn data connection being dogdhit

[delicate owl]

No pvp attempts left

[pastel jolt]

[winged depot]

Is it aotn time?

[floral wave]

not for you, you go get rank1 while we cheer for you

[winged depot]

Looks impossible lol

[floral wave]

damn

[pastel jolt]

[winged depot]

No one rolling me, no +2 smh

[delicate owl]

this is already a +11 anyway though i ended at 2223

[pastel jolt]

Yea its +36

Can't take too early, or the risk of 9 is too high/lacking instant +35

[winged depot]

You could roll me for another +1

[delicate owl]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749898857567223848/983321056754409562/pvp_credit.gif

[floral wave]

im still 3/10 if anyone rolls me

[neon bronze]

Edited video soon, don't have wofi currrently

[floral wave]

next season we go eos :pausechamp:

[pseudo copper]

Ok Yukana

[floral wave]

wait

you just admitted im not brah

no voices bullshittery, thats a clear evidence

[winged depot]

Its the same

The voices are strong

[trail temple]

Brah is Yukana

Just another voice

[floral wave]

no man, come on andy, not you too

[trail temple]

[winged depot]

Bingo bango bongo

[pseudo copper]

Brah is Yukana, you are Yukana, you are Brah

Ez

[floral wave]

no

i refuse

[winged depot]

no one can escape the voices

[uncut agate]

every voice gets one account

[trail temple]

Even Beth is just another voice in Yukana's head

[candid sluice]

we are all voices

[neon bronze]

call me as either "Beth Log" or "Chicharon/ChicharonLover"

[stoic moon]

sheesh nice pronouns

[trail temple]

If I type "LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL" this happens on my keyboard

[candid sluice]

U gotta address the lord with proper pronouns

[neon bronze]

i won't tolerate just calling me Beth

just like the fact that there are two Saltys in this channel

[candid sluice]

But we are the same person

[neon bronze]

Get a better keyboard

[trail temple]

Sure... in a year's time when I have the money

[neon bronze]

Skill issue

😔

[neon bronze]

Serious, hope you get one though

[trail temple]

Not made of money, sorry

[candid sluice]

But u won some money from the pvp tournament

[trail temple]

Went to my rent

[candid sluice]

Damn full time azur lane pvp pays the bills

[sterile tinsel]

'kin hell...Lost one with +9...Scheisse!

due to inattention

[untold crater]

[neon bronze]

[stable dawn]

[trail temple]

Noticing a lot of noobs on Amagi ladder hitting AOTN this season

[winged depot]

hekkers

[untold crater]

Future EoSers

[pastel jolt]

[pseudo copper]

Hackers smh

[delicate owl]

Gorrillaz just got AOTN this reset there is also a supplementary vid in #media-content though it's a meme so i can't post it here

Anyway, I made a guide on getting extra points for Admiral of the Navy (AOTN) even without being in contention for the End-of-Season Top 10, which I hope would help those that are still trying on reaching AOTN https://imgur.com/a/i9MpYlj ~~sorry for the ping, i forgot to turn it off ~~

[storm ore]

Ultimately, I really did become a meme :')

[delicate owl]

In a good way, sort of. tbh it's good that you're observant with potential hackers and cheaters but as the others said, you can "speedrun" pvp as long as you started in events that have the meta pvp ships

[pseudo copper]

Dw, Gorrillaz is a hacker

[uncut agate]

oh wow, mk

[storm ore]

The thing is that I've never been very interested in pvp in Azur Lane, I just did it for the merit so I didn't know how to climb up the ladder, nor what the norms are. Seeing a lvl 80 top 1 guy so far in the season felt weird because I just assumed it was the same as with EX missions

Makes sense ?

[neon bronze]

p0st it on ninja society

[delicate owl]

I'm not in ninja

[storm ore]

:')

[uncut agate]

pvp is different from EX leaderboard because the ranking changes every reset

[pseudo copper]

Guy is a hacker, I can say that he is same as EX boarders smh

[neon bronze]

mf you alrdy have AotN

[pseudo copper]

Matcha is above joining ninja

[neon bronze]

post ur proof on ALM server's submissions channel

[stable dawn]

sounds like something Gorilllaz would say

[storm ore]

Well yes I get it now, but I didn't back then

[stable dawn]

[pseudo copper]

I quit AL

So no

[stable dawn]

prove it

[pseudo copper]

[delicate owl]

Yeah, it does. With the imgur guide I posted, I'm confident that you can get aotn (if you haven't) easily as long as you don't miss/lose any attempts and ask for bonus points nicely

[stable dawn]

wait who took the screenshot

[storm ore]

Ty but it's fine. I think I'll get it this evening ? If everything goes as planned

[pseudo copper]

Me on my acc

[stable dawn]

sounds like hacks to me

[pseudo copper]

I just am too good for you

[stable dawn]

hacer

smh

[pseudo copper]

If you were Astolfo you'd understand how

[uncut agate]

one of yukana's voices

[untold crater]

[stable dawn]

Yukana haces too???

[pseudo copper]

Yukana is well known TOS breaker

[untold crater]

Hack so much my guild even has banned players

[neon bronze]

hacks prevented me from getting Aquila and NJ

[stable dawn]

smh pvp full of cheaters

[neon bronze]

😔

[stable dawn]

dead gamemode

[delicate owl]

Good luck! Like what Gorrillaz did, just choose the weakest opponent in your lists if you can't defeat your leftmost opponent. And if you need to defeat someone who has a lower rank than you, then don't hesitate and just take the +9. What's important is that you reach AOTN, not how high your final score come end of season is gonna be

[trail temple]

Imagine having alts on the same server

Disgusting

[pseudo copper]

Also ping people to set weak defence fleets if you see them on discord if you can't beat them, 100% viable tactic

@flat veldt can you put ez def fleet pls?

[flat veldt]

Not hacks, he just used NArdVPN to travel to a different timezone

[delicate owl]

I already did back then. I just left without elaborating

[storm ore]

Ty for the advice 👍

[stable dawn]

but NArd is just Yukana, which means NArdVPN is just spyware from the Yukanaverse

[neon bronze]

people who recommend CAs should be banned from #pvp without question

[pseudo copper]

[neon bronze]

that isn't anchorage

[pseudo copper]

Mods don't check this channel

So 2nd best option is bullying them out

[neon bronze]

ok

[pseudo copper]

Well not 2nd, since first

[trail temple]

[pseudo copper]

He is just trying to get #pvp ban

[uncut agate]

[pseudo copper]

Let him have it

[neon bronze]

Fuck

sayonara-bye

[stable dawn]

[trail temple]

Knew there was an ulterior motive

Man is in ALM's ninja chat, now doesn't want to be here anymore

[stable dawn]

what a shame

[neon bronze]

i genuiny have a problem recommending what frontline ships to use

CA ships worked for me so that's what I used until around the time before Musashi event

[untold crater]

[neon bronze]

Forgot abt Ayanami retrofit and Yukikaze, ima put them there?

[trail temple]

I said it earlier in the piece that he has Ayanami kai

[neon bronze]

ykkz is light pool gacha, ehh...

[untold crater]

Where even is this

[trail temple]

Literally in this chat

[neon bronze]

sure, that can replace Noshiro

[untold crater]

What a world

[trail temple]

Nah, go Ancho-ayaya-noshy

[neon bronze]

I am the author of that wall of text

[trail temple]

Or Juneau over Noshy

[lusty hill]

Is mafia still relevant?

[neon bronze]

This got good reception. Mostly from Fluffy here, but reception nonetheless.

[neon bronze]

As defense fleet, no. Musashi shreds backlines now 🙂

As attack fleet... not sure abt that myself

[pseudo copper]

Only if you are Aoste

[trail temple]

Attack fleet, generally fine until you come up against Musashi fleets

[lusty hill]

I'm glad they released musashi

now I won't be harassed by shitton of mafia anymore

[neon bronze]

serenity villain arc

[candid sluice]

Mafia fell off hard only boomers use it nowadays

[stable dawn]

pretty sure those are corpses

💀

[candid sluice]

💀⚰️

[trail temple]

You'll be harrassed by a shit tonne of Yakuza instead

[barren patio]

is prinz eugen any good in defence? keep seeing her used in ppls defence

[pastel jolt]

Yes

She is defence meta for KMS Simps

[barren patio]

why exactly is she good?

[pastel jolt]

Because she is KMS

I love KMS man, they have the best waifus

#1 KMS Simp in chat, nice to meet you!

[stable dawn]

what's your opinion of Kronk and how many mistake her for KMS?

[glossy nest]

Wot

[pastel jolt]

She's fake KMS.

[sterile tinsel]

Damn!I love that shit!

3 in the row

[floral wave]

i mean

[sterile tinsel]

||But 2 weeks ago||

[floral wave]

mafia is quite easy these days

[deft escarp]

They're not that bad

[sterile tinsel]

Much easy

[deft escarp]

Though I do remember having to reset a couple of times against mafia

[sterile tinsel]

But still annoying

[stable dawn]

just run torpmemes

ez win

[deft escarp]

Seems like pHneutral geared his quite well as his mafia is the only one that I actually had to reset against

[sterile tinsel]

Everywhere that Slutmakaze

Ez oneshot your vanguard

[deft escarp]

Wouldn't Anchorage just eat most of the torps for your vg?

[sterile tinsel]

I don't have that autistic girl

But

If you have her

She did

But

[stable dawn]

anchorage is permanent content.
Play at your own pace.

[sterile tinsel]

Still random for another ships in vang

[floral wave]

how come no one that uses ancho experiences random shima preload oneshots

must be hacks

[deft escarp]

Even my Juneau main tank doesn't have too much trouble surviving Shima preload rn

Though this is Sandy server, so they might not be geared too well

[merry vale]

[floral wave]

use offmeta stuff
complain you lose to meta

[deft escarp]

This kinda reminds me of that post in LW subreddit where the guy complains that using Fes and above units is p2w

Which is like saying that using ships above common rarity in AL is p2w

[stable dawn]

reminds me of that guy who rage quit on the subreddit after shinano release because URs are "p2w"

[deft escarp]

Man

[uncut agate]

Yes, Saniek from Lexington

[merry vale]

Shima can still dent Juneau quite a bit even with Anchorage.

[deft escarp]

Yeah

Still decent damage even with bulge

Just doesn't get one shot like that guy's vg

[floral wave]

mans probably using agir or kron with vh plate

or both

[sterile tinsel]

Nope

[floral wave]

pog, heavy armor out of the way then

[sterile tinsel]

Any armor goes to sink cuz of huge damage

Shields and smokes make you vg evade that shit

[deft escarp]

Then just get Anchorage

[sterile tinsel]

But if Ancho take 2-3 torps from shima,even she will say hello from the bottom

[deft escarp]

I'm probably gonna be forced to purple my ships in order to not make Reisalin impotent

[sterile tinsel]

I'm not one of this metafaggots

But...

[deft escarp]

Then don't complain about getting owned by a meta fleet when not using meta

[sterile tinsel]

Thx to random

[floral wave]

?

[sterile tinsel]

Now,I'm owning that metascrap,but if they not geared specially for pvp

And yes

[deft escarp]

Also, Anchorage would just get 100% evasion after her shield breaks

[uncut agate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/z5pdpt/i_think_that_exercises_might_actually_be_harder/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
fun read

[sterile tinsel]

If breakes...But not when she under its effect

[deft escarp]

And that shield is deployed along with the smoke when she launches her torps

[deft escarp]

?

[merry vale]

[deft escarp]

PvP isn't as complicated as LostWord's strat magnum opus

[sterile tinsel]

I meant if shima send to her torps when she isn't under her shield

[deft escarp]

But how

[trail temple]

Timing of Anchorage's torps and Shima's torps, if built correctly, tend to align

[deft escarp]

From my experience, most of Shima's deadly torp damage comes her preload which Anchorage basically negates

I only had issues with it if her torps one shot my NJ

[sterile tinsel]

Put pre-death uss chicken on her

Addictionaly 8 sec of living

[deft escarp]

Choncern

Dcp isn't gonna be useful if Shima just procs it right at the start of the battle

[untold crater]

Daniel is right here lol

[candid sluice]

💀

[untold crater]

If your VG and Enemy VG go back when battle starts, by the time the mag torps land, the ancho timing is gone

Literally how shaNJuu gets his wins

[deft escarp]

Damn

[merry vale]

I still think manju on anchorage is the right play, unless there's some reason washing machine NJ is really bad.

[pastel jolt]

Rest in peace Shanjuu

[deft escarp]

Yeah, I don't think washing machine NJ is as good vs dcp

Just had a mirror match (with Izumo gun instead of 356 kai Musashi for dome reason) and the durability it gave was a bit better

Though I don't think the guy even optimized on hit stat

Dcp also pretty much guaranteed a second salvo from experience vs rudder

[merry vale]

My question would be how frequently would NJ actually be getting killed before the second Salvo.

[deft escarp]

That idrk lol

Afaik there's only like 1 or 2 people in Sandy with 356 kai

[merry vale]

Against the NJ Musashi Aquila comp, your Frontline is at a huge risk of dying early.

[deft escarp]

And they may not even be running +13 HPFCR/table for extra acc

[merry vale]

As long as she isn't consistently dead by the second Salvo I think it would be worth keeping your Frontline alive longer even if NJ isn't quite as strong defensively.

Manju NJ wont save you from the enemy vanguard face hugging your backline.

Thanks for testing it either way.

[empty mesa]

Barely made it, guys.

[vestal hearth]

omg gratz

[empty mesa]

Can retire for this season.

[valid oxide]

Farming for noshiro, nearly have Juneau fully retrofitted and farming levels for amagi musashi and hiryuu while doing all this. PvP fleet soon™️

[merry vale]

I'm happy, I rushed up to rank 5 and pulled 3 +11s and 2 +10s from it.

Behind rank 1 by 8 points.

[valid oxide]

PvP defence fleet beloved

[neon bronze]

Based

[merry vale]

Either these two or the triple purple mags.

[valid oxide]

What Dev lvl. Can anchorage start being used for pvp

[merry vale]

25 is plenty for Anchorage but she worth d30ing.

Might not rush to fs5 her, but dev 30 is worth it.

[neon bronze]

if you are in this list, please move

@pastel jolt can you move, or is this wromg pinged guy

[winged depot]

Probably need to wait for 10 mins or less, he's bagging

Although strix might move

[merry vale]

[neon bronze]

i'll take the +51

also, owo, bucherlord. may the better Meeb win

[merry vale]

You rolled me.

[neon bronze]

Did you change ign? Last time your IGN was Master Fluffy.
And at how many exercizes you still have left?

[merry vale]

Yeah I changed it recently. I'm at 0/10 that's as low as I'm going.

[neon bronze]

How many points rn?

Bravo six, going dark. Opening event irl starting

[merry vale]

2325

[warm crow]

at least 10 for the preload torp

[pastel jolt]

If you can bag off me when I finish at 1min sure

[steel coral]

aoste could

[floral wave]

would pausing the battle at sure win and ending it at 0:50 work? or whatever time you know the person finished moving

or do you need to start battle after theyve finished

[merry vale]

If you're caught in a battle and overcap it counts that as one of your current X/10s so you lose it. That makes me think everything is updated around your match, so it sounds like it works but i honestly don't know i've never tried lmao.

[floral wave]

just a random thought yeah

[steel coral]

it's from when you start the battle so it would be +10

[floral wave]

would work only with 6/10 anyways

oh

okay nvm then

[merry vale]

[pastel jolt]

Pause doesn't work

[neon bronze]

nah i rushed earlier

sorry

was impatient af

didn't realize fun runs are faster than it seems

[pastel jolt]

[floral wave]

mans found fun in pvp after getting first aotn

[neon bronze]

Currently at here atm

[merry vale]

First aotn is a hell of a drug.

[pseudo copper]

I'll never reach AotN

[floral wave]

you already did

[pseudo copper]

[floral wave]

alright, im sending this to andy

if you dont stop calling me brah

[pseudo copper]

I'm in ALO, I literally can't hit AotN

[pseudo copper]

Ok brah/Yukana

[floral wave]

why dont you just play along

im too lazy to screenshot this

[pseudo copper]

@trail temple brah wants me to sext you ig

[floral wave]

[neon bronze]

@merry vale you're at 2245 and 3/10, right?

Woops, 2345

[merry vale]

Uhhh, i believe so.

[neon bronze]

Mind reaching 2373 for me?

doable even if you eat 2 +9s

[merry vale]

2/10 i fucked up 1 specific match and lost. I didn't think any team would 50/50 coin flip me tbh.

Can't hit 2075 for ya.

[neon bronze]

So 2345 2/10?

[merry vale]

Yeah.

[neon bronze]

understandable

[merry vale]

Got cocky and took an L.

[merry vale]

Pretty much ideal, i'd maybe use Hiryuu flag with wmt. And maybe torp bulge instead of a gyro.

[warm crow]

is manjuu+rudder better than manjuu+kicks for anchorage?

[candid sluice]

beth shameless coll*sion now

[merry vale]

Honestly staring at the stats of both items, i could see solid arguments for both.

Rudder is more tanky, but 5 speed is still 5 speed.

15 evasion 72 hp and the passive vs 5 speed.

I'd value the tank stats more probably.

[neon bronze]

Sea Hornet over Tigercat in PvP.

Choice between thr gun you currently have on Musashi (preferred if going 2 BB) and 410 mm Kai in Gear Lab.

Otherwise, yeah.

[steel coral]

fighter timing doesn't matter on hiryuu

could make an argument for pirate squad on hiryuu for more potential crash damage from nano

[floral wave]

how does pirate squad make nano do more crash dmg

[steel coral]

more AA means more damage to enemy planes

and if the enemy planes get shot down that's less damage to your planes

more health on planes means more crash damage, right?

[floral wave]

ah, didnt think of that interaction

yeah, makes sense now

[pastel jolt]

Pirate Squad plane also leads to less crash damage taken and a marginally faster airstrike (though not fast enough to actually matter a lot)

[neon bronze]

good day @warm crow what's cooking? can you move?

[warm crow]

im at 5/10 2326 atm, so just +11 at most

i can move if its fine with you since ive already overcapped quite a bit this season

[neon bronze]

understandable, it ok. +52 this set

tell me if you're done

[warm crow]

sure, give me a few minutes

[warm crow]

done. 2367 now

[neon bronze]

ty

[warm crow]

if you don't get eos top 10 this season with all the collusion i'm going to judge you

[neon bronze]

nah nope, lemme hook up the Kaga bot command

lost once and overcapped twice, with a sweet tinge of impatience

[warm crow]

probably at least top 20, top 30 at most

[neon bronze]

Prayge

[neon bronze]

overcapped one more

[warm crow]

you overcapped with 2 attempts left?

[neon bronze]

no, one

nomico moved, then scudworth
both gave +11

[warm crow]

last minute rushes aren't favorable for shinano/hiryuu comps. better to use an aggressive comp with aquila/musashi/nj

[lusty hill]

How to counter full oathed T0?

I've spent over 10 minutes and still can't manage to beat it

The furthest one I could do, his NJ got manjuu so I'll probably still lose

[winged depot]

Famine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/948277339396124692.gif?size=64&quality=lossless

[lusty hill]

I think I've seen someone mention him before

is he famous or something?

[uncut agate]

dunno

[stable dawn]

[velvet tapir]

best ship to counter Hiryu's defensive and Enterprise's offensive skill?

[deep glacier]

Famine is the strongest pvper bro

[uncut agate]

win the vanguard fight and hiryuu and enty can't do anything to you

[neon bronze]

slanderer of lexington server

and as serenity experienced first hand + his EoS listings, really good

[trail temple]

Famine, the Supreme Lord of Avrora

[deep glacier]

^

[pastel jolt]

Famine is scary

[winged depot]

[neon bronze]

any 2 BB w/ twin barrel guns, preload CV or Hiryuu can deal with an Enterprise

[lusty hill]

[pastel jolt]

Famine supreme overlord of Avrora and Smurf of TW

[neon bronze]

alteranativley, as captain fluffs said, win the vanguard part of the fight i.e. opponent vanguards down

[lusty hill]

I'll copy his fleet when NJ and shimakaze rerun

[trail temple]

@lusty hill You ran into a monster, sorry about that

[flat veldt]

Does anyone have Famine's discord account? I wanna ask him for some coaching

[neon bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745143627608752179/892037508995620914/Famine_meme.png from ALM

[deep glacier]

and that's not even his final form

[pastel jolt]

You can dm @untold crater , he’s budget famine

10% of him for 10% rate

[trail temple]

Famine, confrontational though? Tactless maybe

[deep glacier]

he is pretty chill imo, is fun to hang out with him

[stable dawn]

watch out he might hear you

[neon bronze]

[mint hornet]

That looks sussy
How can anyone be lvl 120 for that many seasons and be first

And 2507 1st place probably wasn't even eos

[neon bronze]

counterpoint for this specific EoS score: Microlayer Medley maintenance moment

[pastel jolt]

You really think he doesn’t know

Unreal bro

[neon bronze]

ok i stand corrected

[stable dawn]

[flat veldt]

clearly a hacker just like everyone else here

[pastel jolt]

Hacker to add to the ranks of FlaccidTorp and Gorrillaz, these low levels can’t be dominating the ladder!

[winged depot]

you've done it now oomfie

[neon bronze]

they used code written in java, with gorrillaZ even getting assistance from now revealed hacker matcha

[pastel jolt]

@delicate owl you gonna stand for that, M-Lord?

[stable dawn]

The hacker known as 4chan????

[trail temple]

These low level players can't possibly be this good!? Sounds like a good ln title

[neon bronze]

his imgur post... is the ultimate proof

[trail temple]

Accusing the greatest amagi pvper, after UNULTRA and Bucherlord, of hacking!?

[stable dawn]

inb4 Beth Log himself is a hacker, trying to hide his hacks by accusing others of hacking!!!

[neon bronze]

wait i have not used hacks

me losing is proof of that

losing exercises*

[trail temple]

Cover up

[neon bronze]

don't remove my gamer blanket

[untold crater]

10% of 0 is still 0 no?

[neon bronze]

🧠

[pastel jolt]

You lost to Resu

[untold crater]

Talking my rate

[pastel jolt]

O

[untold crater]

Not the only one

[pastel jolt]

🤡

[neon bronze]

reads About Me
i'll put Demetori music in my first PvP video

[untold crater]

[stable dawn]

Yukana Jr????

[pseudo copper]

@crimson bear should make a video about it and expose the hackers

[flat veldt]

hackers ruining my highly immersive gaming experience smh

[stable dawn]

unethical

[stoic moon]

real pace

[neon bronze]

how much

points

[untold crater]

[stoic moon]

+19

[winged depot]

he hit the lottery

[pseudo copper]

Break phone later in season next time

[stable dawn]

is this the slingshot tech?

[neon bronze]

35, 71, 108, what's next?

[flat veldt]

do the +49 tech

[neon bronze]

i see, there's a 35+n pattern

[flat veldt]

guarantee win next szn

[untold crater]

35,36,37,38..

[pseudo copper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/962974246567567430/unknown.png

[untold crater]

So 146 is next

Then 185..

And it caps out at +19

[trail temple]

I have written the formula a few times already

[stable dawn]

[untold crater]

Should update that ... Pvp chart one day

[delicate owl]

I know FlaccidTorp since that's an alt of a pvper in alm ninja. On the other hand, Gorrillaz is an ultra casual player judging from their 5* kronshtadt and unorthodox yet logical fleet. For the hacking/Gorrillaz being my alt accusations against me, all I can say is that I gain nothing from tryharding with an alt given that I'm already retired from the pro scene :essexgamer:. Skills, luck, and some collusions are all I needed back then. If you're looking for a TOS breaker in the Amagi pvp scene, I am not the guy for that

~~Sorry for the late reply. I swapped to desktop since my phone didn't just hang up and sent some gifs a while ago 🙈 ~~

[neon bronze]

understandable, Matcha

we just partaking in some amount of tomfoolery

[uncut agate]

just look at ex leaderboards if you wanna spot cheaters

[untold crater]

yeah on amagi saw on named "Rumi"

[trail temple]

We don't joke about hacking, the devs take it very seriously

[candid sluice]

tos

[crimson bear]

This a meme?

[pseudo copper]

[candid sluice]

cheaters are a big issue on leaderboards now

a video covering the topic would be nice so devs can be aware of it

[deft escarp]

[lusty hill]

Are you saying the cheaters are indeed real or are we still being ironic?

[candid sluice]

theres more than one form of cheating

[lusty hill]

[neon bronze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/697475157739962509/902144573256663110/nj_get_real_.gif

[merry vale]

[valid oxide]

NJ death looks so funny

I didn't know she just falls to pieces

[uncut agate]

just wait for the next wall of shame and you'll know

[late heath]

Hax, reported

[pseudo copper]

@merry vale got 1 more?

[merry vale]

One sec I'll check.

@pseudo copper

Nope. 0/10.

I fucked up 1 match last night now everyone must pay for my sins.

[winged depot]

rough

[pseudo copper]

Actually Ark moved more for me so am saved

[winged depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/948277339396124692.gif?size=64&quality=lossless

[merry vale]

[neon bronze]

2517 EoS score?

[merry vale]

[neon bronze]

Hope I can get AotN EoS next season

[merry vale]

I think I fucked up 3 total matches this season.

Overcapped 2 and lost 1.

[neon bronze]

overcapped thrice and lost once; EoS score 2550-2560

[merry vale]

Decent, good on you.

[neon bronze]

had i lever lost and overcapped it would've been 2594-2596

never*

[winged depot]

its not that easy

[neon bronze]

there's one more season

[candid sluice]

The jokes write themselves

[floral wave]

have i not overcapped 10 i'd be 2600 instead of 2500

kek

[winged depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/948277339396124692.gif?size=64&quality=lossless

[floral wave]

real

[pseudo copper]

If I wasn't so cute I'd be 2700 instead of 0

[late heath]

Over cap is just skill issues

[winged depot]

facts

[floral wave]

true

[winged depot]

so is not using cowshino

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/665062713076088848.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[merry vale]

[trail temple]

If I was using Kashino my pvp score would be over 8000

[candid sluice]

hidden pvper modifiers nerf kashino so she wouldnt win the game immediately

[thorn obsidian]

Ok 2 pvp based questions

1. If I save up 5 battles before the season ends, do they disappear at the start of the next one

[late heath]

They saw me got #1 5 times in a row on Kashino so they had to nerf her

[late heath]

Yes

[thorn obsidian]

2. With this fleet, is the only improvement besides gear changing Percy? To I’m assuming Italian ships?

[untold crater]

Yes

[uncut agate]

Perseus can be replaced with Aquila/Shinano/Hiryuu/NJ/off-flag UvH

[late heath]

Saw

[untold crater]

I don't k ow why i typed saw

[late heath]

Saw Kashino

[untold crater]

🥛

[untold crater]

Italy not meta. Idk wym

[winged depot]

Kashino has proved once again that she's op

[uncut agate]

Lexi's eos aotn

[thorn obsidian]

This is my current loadouts

So idk what I could change

[uncut agate]

those main gun on both your BBs

[winged depot]

9 and 10s have massive point diff across servers

[uncut agate]

and give manjuu to Anchorage, give beaver badge to someone else

[late heath]

manjuu NJ

[thorn obsidian]

What nj

[late heath]

New Jersey

[pseudo copper]

@late heath ily btw

[thorn obsidian]

Like?

[pseudo copper]

And as soon as I say that I get you on my list

[thorn obsidian]

Also what guns?

[late heath]

The correction list

[thorn obsidian]

That musashi

[uncut agate]

give beaver badge to Vanguard i guess, instead of the gold shell

[thorn obsidian]

So is Percy better than shinano/Hiryuu at all?

[uncut agate]

No

[thorn obsidian]

So use shinano I guess?

[uncut agate]

you're using Juneau, use Shinano

[thorn obsidian]

Ok, and what loadout?

[uncut agate]

the gear loadout is in the pinned tierlist, check there

[pseudo copper]

That and my simp for list

[thorn obsidian]

So; why that blue gun for musashi? And what Aux gun if no rainbow

[uncut agate]

blue gun is very fast, musashi's barrage proc faster is more important than the gun dmg

[uncut agate]

go for Harbin gun/Neptune gun/Seatte gun, whichever one you have. harbin gun is probably best

[thorn obsidian]

I got Nep guns, also I can’t find the shinano pin..?

[pseudo copper]

2nd time rolling you, we were meant to be

[uncut agate]

colour coded

[thorn obsidian]

No tenrai on shinano?

Nvm I’m blind

[dapper yew]

Hmm what have I done wrong? Only 126 after 5 attacks

[candid sluice]

you rushed

[thorn obsidian]

Why frontier medal? Or should I go for feather?

[uncut agate]

just use wnt, no need for frontier medal in your fleet

wait

wnt on musashi, feather+avgas on shinano

[thorn obsidian]

Ok, and speed medal on vanguard?

The Bb

[dapper yew]

Is that normal? everyone else on the ladder was like 140 by the time I was done

[thorn obsidian]

Like this?

And how about these 2

And which one for her?

[winged depot]

looks fine imo

[thorn obsidian]

So is this the best fleet? Without having NJ or UvH?

[winged depot]

would go for hiryuu instead of vanguard but that works too

[thorn obsidian]

Hmm

[neon bronze]

Musashi - Hiryuu - Shinano shill coming through

speaking of your currebt fleet, do you have any 457s?

[thorn obsidian]

No

[neon bronze]

Oh the gun you have on Vanguard is fine

[thorn obsidian]

ignore the gear this is my Hiryuu rn, still leveling her

How would I gear her? I’d assume I need to give her beaver?

[winged depot]

yeah stick with vanguard atm

[stable dawn]

[thorn obsidian]

I said assume

[winged depot]

avi tank, wnt. sea hornet, tenrai, wyvern

[neon bronze]

Meeb is the strongest Tier 0 fleet

If Shinano strikes twice, well free win. But it's slowest compared to the other Tier 0 fleets, 8n which you are equipping one rn, albeit without a New Jersey you used Vanguard.

[thorn obsidian]

Meeb?

[neon bronze]

Musashi - Hiryuu - Shinano

[thorn obsidian]

I don’t get how that’s meeb but ok

[floral wave]

weeb but musashi variant

[thorn obsidian]

457… that’s pr2 gun right?

[floral wave]

yeah

[neon bronze]

Before Musashi was released, one of the best fleets was New Jersey - Hiryuu - Shinano, and it was given the nickname "Weeb"

Come Musashi release, Musashi replaced New Jersey's spot in that "Weeb" fleet

It now became "Meeb" fleet

[floral wave]

but you dont really need it for vang atm

[thorn obsidian]

I mean I’m close

[trail temple]

The Avrora group like Meeb the least, that is all