pvp

[frank pebble]

Are there alternatives to noshiro?

[winged depot]

shimakaze or yukikaze I guess

[untold crater]

Harbin I guess lol

[neon bronze]

do harder defense fleets give more season points?

since i mindlessly just clicked on whoever is at the leftmost side to fight and beat

and realized some of them give less season points than stronger fleets

[winged depot]

no, and yes fighting the leftmost side is the way

[neon bronze]

because of pepega lineups, etc.

[winged depot]

you can have a +9 when fighting some meta fleets but is lower rank than you. You can also get a +11 if you fought a defense fleet of bulins if the opponent has +35 more score than you

doesn't really matter how much difficulty is the fleet you fight

[untold crater]

Points gained is purely based on the point difference between you and your opponent

[lofty herald]

Yukana Hellow

[untold crater]

Yahallo

[coral wren]

Yo sup yo

[tough blade]

When you try to make the gap between you and your opponent bigger in order to get more for the victory, and he does exactly the same

[floral wave]

interesting

how do you try to make the gap bigger

except waiting

[candid sluice]

by artificially making a gap

[pseudo copper]

By asking people to move

[floral wave]

unsportmanlike conduct

[pseudo copper]

Collusion is only way to get half of Unultra's score

[mellow charm]

Unultra is simply too good for us

[cursive jackal]

is triple preloads good for PvP?

[untold crater]

Not really

NJ doesn't have preload

[cursive jackal]

I don't have NJ, not a player during her event

[trail temple]

As long as they don't have anchorage, you can nuke the vanguard fairly easily

[tacit fox]

is nagato a good substitute for nj for the weeb comp?

[untold crater]

Vanguard is better

[flat veldt]

Today's PvP tip is sponsored by the one and only M Lord

[cinder wolf]

M Lord leaked online class

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

Getting premium content for free

[flat veldt]

if you want private tuition/coaching, please consider enrolling at the M Lord Academy

[cinder wolf]

is there any code for discount?

[untold crater]

Under the table discount

[pseudo copper]

I gotta get on my knees first for that discount?

[untold crater]

You don't fit under the table while standing up?

[pseudo copper]

No, gotta crawl

I'd be on all 4

[untold crater]

Well, you're too tall to ride the matcha rollercoaster

😕

[pseudo copper]

I can fix that by losing some of my height

[untold crater]

Yes I'm sure something can be arranged

[pseudo copper]

How much for an amputation?

[floral wave]

enter Famine for 2600 discount

[coral wren]

Amagi Supremacy
Because of Matcha posting a GIF of my fav anime one time

[neon bronze]

what kind of forbidden knowledge got leaked

pvp is a conspiracy, dedicated to weed out the weakest among us

[candid sluice]

pvp is a battle of the mind

[coral wren]

You just said mind games

[neon bronze]

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS CLOSE

[untold crater]

You know you can leave battle if it's too close right

[lime folio]

⏳ 🛍️

[random radish]

is azuma dev30 good for pvp?

[cinder wolf]

no

[arctic sluice]

I’m assuming it’s impossible to reach top 10 without nj

[floral wave]

wrong assumption

wrong for both end of season and aotn range

[untold crater]

Fleet ≠ Score

[arctic sluice]

Is vanguard only good with other rns or nah

[floral wave]

best setup with vanguard has no other hms ships

[untold crater]

Vanguard used as a VV replacement

[neon bronze]

who's better for sniping, VV with Duca, VV without Duca, or WarKai? don't have Aquila and NJ

[untold crater]

None of those ships

Vanguard/Shinano/Hiryuu

[candid sluice]

Shimakaze

[river marsh]

can you guys please move

i need my +2

[untold crater]

Who

[river marsh]

no idea if the people in my list are afk or baggers

they haven't moved since reset

[untold crater]

Show list

[river marsh]

Bubhead32
Eightin
Bumblebutt
Waddler

[pseudo copper]

Bub is bagging

[untold crater]

bubhead moves for ya

[pseudo copper]

Just ping him

[river marsh]

what's his @

[untold crater]

C*llusion?

[pseudo copper]

@stoic moon

[untold crater]

@stoic moon

[river marsh]

move pls

i need my +

[pseudo copper]

He'll tell you when he'll move

[untold crater]

Asking for mover when you will overcap

💀

[stoic moon]

oh

can move gonna go to sleep soon anyway

[river marsh]

nice

[untold crater]

bub how's your pace this season

[river marsh]

[stoic moon]

was 2570ish but lost some today so prob lower

[untold crater]

oh you Overcapped

[stoic moon]

no i just didnt get bonus

idk if thats bad

[untold crater]

2570 +2 or +1?

[stoic moon]

+0

[untold crater]

2570 +0 pace...?

[stoic moon]

wait no

[river marsh]

2570 +0

[stoic moon]

2566 +1 2530 +0

[untold crater]

Ah okay

[stoic moon]

cant read 😔

[untold crater]

So you will be around 970s

[pseudo copper]

You share smth with me then

[untold crater]

That's pretty decent

[stoic moon]

icic

done at 5/10 981

[untold crater]

wat

[river marsh]

i can +1 with that

[untold crater]

That's 2574 bro 💀

[river marsh]

thanks

[stoic moon]

oh

[pseudo copper]

Bub just told you he can't read

[untold crater]

Damn what's your pacing jinji

[stoic moon]

i thought i lost points today

guess im just dumb and illiterate

[untold crater]

Fellow dumb guild leader

[pseudo copper]

Like the rest of us

[stoic moon]

[river marsh]

yoo

i got +2

[untold crater]

Ofc that's a +2

[pseudo copper]

Best pace is to retire

[untold crater]

Your pace would need to be super high for that to be +1, but you wouldn't have rolled bub if you did have that pace

[river marsh]

what are your paces rn

[untold crater]

Was 926 and 922

[pseudo copper]

Retirement pace for me

[river marsh]

like your attacks rn and points

[untold crater]

954 8/10
936 9/10

I don't remember right now

@river marsh and you?

Maybe ahead of me

[river marsh]

950 8/10

[untold crater]

: 🥪

In-between

[pseudo copper]

Not after you overcap

[untold crater]

Still after i Overcap

Jinji will overcap with me

[river marsh]

[untold crater]

Never see this dude not overcap

[river marsh]

[pseudo copper]

Just overcap all resets like me

Ez

[untold crater]

Then it ruins the fun of overcapping

All good things in moderation

[pseudo copper]

So overcap eos

[untold crater]

Nothing better than that

[pseudo copper]

You and Kirito like that

[untold crater]

Learning experience

Next time i just need to do 6 in 3:30

[pseudo copper]

3:30 too long

Gotta do 6 in 1 minute

[untold crater]

Clone app slower loading screen

Loading longer than battles

[pseudo copper]

Makes it more fun

[untold crater]

Then you finish 2575 on envy sheet lmfao

[pseudo copper]

That's like t3 in Washy this season

[untold crater]

t1 cn

[dreamy lance]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-immense-cap-gif-22340171

[flat veldt]

M Lord's Tip of the Day
Remember to submit your applications to the M Lord Academy with your statement of intent and at least 3 recommendation letters from professional EoS players. Applications close on 8/2 and enrollment will be capped to 2600 students.

[untold crater]

2600 student cap 15 members in the classroom

[flat veldt]

you count as 2000 students because of all the voices in your head

[untold crater]

Wonder how you graduate m lord school

But I'm not in the school

[flat veldt]

Kirito also has a thousand alts so spots get filled up very quickly

[untold crater]

[empty mesa]

I am too pleb to be accepted.

[flat veldt]

surely one of your many alts will get accepted

[coral wren]

[pseudo copper]

Would Astolfo chan count as professional EoS player?

[flat veldt]

not sure if the Committee would find any value in a LoR from a retired player

[pseudo copper]

Astolfo chan is cute

[flat veldt]

Well the thing is... sorry but you're too casual for the M Lord Academy. Since, if I recall correctly, you should be quite the senior player, and your 2022 EoS AotN standing results are not good enough. Plenty of other Academies you could try however.

[pseudo copper]

I have mastered the art of retirement

[river marsh]

i feel like a weirdo if i just dm random guys from the server to move in pvp

@mental narwhal move in pvp pls

[stable dawn]

I'm skeptical of this M guy. Has he even got a 2600 before?

[river marsh]

lmfao

[river marsh]

fully oathed weeb fleet tho

[candid sluice]

i got kicked from M Lord Academy because my gpa was too low

[coral wren]

[lime folio]

more free points

😩

[late heath]

If you want to join, you’d also have to 125/200 Kashino

[strange tide]

I somehow got a +13 every fight. I guess I was that far behind.

[lime folio]

Latias

Sorry all my homies love Latios

[untold crater]

Latias solos all latios

[pseudo copper]

@jolly lichen
https://youtu.be/zBHuVS74MNU

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

[coral wren]

[void mason]

i have kashino at 121 and 4 others on 70 all secretary 1 200 since 2 years ago i plan to marry kashino 2,3,4 and 5 is that enough

[late heath]

125/200

[void mason]

sadge

i dont get it why is my kashino not yet 125

ive been using kashino on everymap

[late heath]

You don’t love her enough

[void mason]

NO I LOVE HER

SINCE THAT DAY I SAW HER

I NEVER FELT THIS MUCH OTHER THAN HER

[candid sluice]

chadmiral of the navy

[void mason]

Yo I have 125/200 kashino now

[young storm]

would replacing Suzutsuki with Juneau in this composition do any help? or is it just a waste of dmg

[untold crater]

Replace that whole vanguard more like

[north timber]

Replace gear lol

[untold crater]

Assuming you don't have Ancho and Shimakaze, can make Juneau/Helena/Suzutsuki for now I guess

[young storm]

they're not geared in the pic xd

[north timber]

Bruh

[untold crater]

Obviously not geared...

It was to show the conp

[dense isle]

So uh, i dont have NJ, shima, anchorage or any of the italian ships, but would someone help me make a pvp fleet?

[untold crater]

Anchorage is permanent, should work towards her, but until then can use
VG/Shinano/Hiryuu/Juneau/Helena/Suzutsuki

[dense isle]

I aint got any UR from banners or suzutsuki 💀

[untold crater]

How new are you to the game?

[dense isle]

Not very, took a year break and missed all the URs

[untold crater]

💀

[dense isle]

Indeed, bit of a pickle im in

[untold crater]

Shinano was 2 years ago bro, didn't get her?

[dense isle]

See i also started aftee shinano 🗿

So lose lose lose basically

[untold crater]

Well let's see your dock

[dense isle]

Aight 1 sec

[untold crater]

Honestly with perma ships your best bet is

[untold crater]

Warspite/Unikai/Hiryuu/Juneau/Helena/Yuki

Juneau drop 5-2

[dense isle]

Alright, thanks bro

[untold crater]

Gears wise need a few wyverns, assume you don't have tenrai, use a 457 if you got one

[trail temple]

There are some budget fleets in the pins that don't require URs or limited ships

[candid sluice]

andy made a budget fleets section?

[untold crater]

Didn't see that

[trail temple]

Untested but yes

[trail temple]

[candid sluice]

still need to work on a better cover page

[coral wren]

Ballin

[random radish]

Is there no way to beat nj, aquila and vv without using the same fleet?

[untold crater]

There is

📌 Has different fleets that are competitive

As long as you can get gears you'll be golden

[pseudo copper]

@jolly lichen Brah made a continuation of testing Percy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VLyp0_-os

[winged depot]

I run a fleet without any of the mafia ships, since I just started this year. Also can win against them if you reset

[neon bronze]

???

quick question, is 18k main fleet power possible without hacking rn? found one

[untold crater]

Yes..

[winged depot]

its possible

[untold crater]

19k possiblr

[neon bronze]

ah

good but the fleet's shit though

[winged depot]

oh definitely

[neon bronze]

should we boo them or aight

[untold crater]

That fleet crumbles

[neon bronze]

also @untold crater how did ppl reach 19k legit?

[winged depot]

all rainbows with some rainbow gears I guess

[untold crater]

.

Stack rainbow

On rainbow ship

Having a bunch of 120s will help since tech stat numbers still go up even though it doesn't apply in pvp battles

[trail temple]

#pvp message

[neon bronze]

[neon bronze]

thx @trail temple

[trail temple]

[oblique silo]

It’s possible. Even for some meta fleets

[wanton kite]

Does fleet power matter for PvP tho? Cus I tot ppl ignore fleet power

[floral wave]

it doesnt, at best you could treat it as an indicator of how well is fleet geared

since you cant see opponents' gear

[oblique silo]

What really matters is synergy

[finite wraith]

[untold crater]

[flat veldt]

Dam that's rough... It's okay, there's always next season

[untold crater]

Imagine trying to win vs him, RIP

The one that can never be ShaNJuu'd

[flat veldt]

Irresistible force paradox

[untold crater]

Unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

[candid sluice]

Unultra has a n*ke code in shima name

[flat veldt]

Shanjuu also gonna get shadow realm'd?

[coral wren]

U N U L T R A

[untold crater]

It's guild Ad bro

Smh

Fake unultra fan

[candid sluice]

When I see unultra I don’t bother checking his defense fleet because I know I can’t win

[untold crater]

You don't even gaze in awe?

Especially this early, it's like, you have nothing to do for the next 7 days

[trail temple]

That fleet will steam roll everyone

[zinc phoenix]

So apparently there’s a bb damag reduction apart from the auxiliary in pvp,

Would say uvh deal 35% on off flag position?

Is the attackers bonus multiplicative?

[untold crater]

Additive

So UvH is garbo in pvp

[trail temple]

Don't say that! The KMS community will be up in arms over someone saying that KMS ships are bad in PvP

[untold crater]

You're right, KMS op, need more

[arctic sluice]

What are good counters to the mafia?

I messed up this season and got trolled by mafia again

[untold crater]

Read your name

Hiryuu/NJ/Shinano/Anchorage/Shimakaze/Juneau is a great fleet vs mafia, but obviously there is no 100% winrate counter for a top tier fleet like mafia, at times you will need to reset

[arctic sluice]

okay

[flat veldt]

M Lord just dropped this hot mixtip

[empty mesa]

Instructions unclear, +0 reset.

[untold crater]

Instructions unclear, rolled 5 baggers

[coral wren]

[untold crater]

[thorn obsidian]

Sir this isn’t a meme channel

<@&472236072743600148> can someone deal with this troll thanks

[leaden jay]

@coral wren This isn't a meme channel, can you stop posting off-topic stuff?

[reef sedge]

@coral wren this is not a meme channel, cut down on the edgy content completely too while you're at it ktyx

[untold crater]

Man

I saw his name and knew something was up

[reef sedge]

you didn't see a thing, nothing happened and pvp is fun

[untold crater]

Prinz Eugen isn't a PvP ship

[river marsh]

🍿

[flat veldt]

[coral wren]

Tbh I used Eugen for PvP in the past

[untold crater]

I lost to Eugen oncs

Not my brightest moment

[coral wren]

Now she's barely useful for PvP

[candid sluice]

based prinz eugen

[finite wraith]

[ancient skiff]

[candid sluice]

shanju dropping a new diss track vid soon??

[stable dawn]

[pseudo copper]

I the latter

[somber monolith]

Ulrich Von Hütten has a maximum of 12.29 seconds reload max setup,

Plus her -55% reload time means about 6 seconds

Now exercise mode has a 300% reload rate and 300 reload stat buff once all vanguards are destroyed

How quick would her reload be then?

[azure swan]

2 seconds

oh wait i forgot about rld stat buff

pretty much 0

machine gun

[floral wave]

dont forget to run wnt on flagship for style points

[coarse linden]

Should I worry or cringe?

The name sounds familiar, can't remember who exactly.

[untold crater]

Cap on rld so probably still like 8-9 seconds at most

Not like it matters, firing 15% dmg or whatever every 10s lmfao

[somber monolith]

No, it definitely is 6 seconds
It doesn’t count towards reload as it isn’t a star, but a reduction

I’d know since I tested it in a meme reload fleet

Can’t tell if 300% reload and 300RLD buff in exercises Works, but since it’s not straight reload previously

[untold crater]

It works, just that RLD basically hard capped until a certain point

[rare flicker]

When will the aotn title be granted?

Last 3 days of season?

[untold crater]

aldez from amagi server

Will be granted when you reach 2200

And top 10

At the same time

Generally Friday reset 3

[torpid shuttle]

shinano hiryuukai is still top tier right

[rare flicker]

Yes yukana pwo

[untold crater]

Top tier? Yeah it's a top 2 fleet

[torpid shuttle]

alr, i'll try it out

[untold crater]

Favored in winrate and consistency

But slightly longer battles

[torpid shuttle]

youve helped me before, going to use vanny hiryuu shinano juneau noshi ancho

just need to skill up hiryuu for awhile

[untold crater]

Ah yeah without NJ you struggle A bit more, but can assume you get aotn with that fleet

[torpid shuttle]

i got aotn before alrdy, just didn't finish season aotn

[untold crater]

Oh you're going for top 10 hmm

Be careful not to move too late

With that fleet would go to 5/10 at 10-15mins maybe not sure

[torpid shuttle]

that long? huh

i'll probably use naval treaty with it

[untold crater]

Yeah if naval use on Hiryuu and give her flag

[dreamy lance]

@stable dawn new washy eos'er??????????

[untold crater]

It kinda depends on your server, but i think you can start going down from 10 until you find your limit

[torpid shuttle]

my limit depends on accidentally afking and losing abattle

[dreamy lance]

can't lose with IJN

[torpid shuttle]

only for merit

[untold crater]

VG IJN maybe

[dreamy lance]

didnt white use to play vg ijn

[untold crater]

White always testing wacky fleets yeah

[dreamy lance]

its not that wacky tbh

[untold crater]

Haven't seen him this season

[stable dawn]

who what

[untold crater]

That one less wacky, i tested it too

[dreamy lance]

Read above, guy from washy wants to do eosing

[untold crater]

Substantially lower WR than normal IJN

[dreamy lance]

you probably have to use more tank on juneau, because nj 5% dmg reduction doesnt exist

[stable dawn]

I saw UvH and my brain shut off

[untold crater]

Where uvh

[rare flicker]

Does that gear good for pvp

[untold crater]

Nop

[rare flicker]

Safe to scrap?

[untold crater]

Why scrap gears

Just put it on ship that you don't use, equipped gears don't count for depot

[rare flicker]

Ah oki

[untold crater]

I wouldn't wanna scrap gears than aren't perma

[cursive jackal]

Who can counter enty?

[azure swan]

preload

[winged depot]

Use a preload ship, and a cracked bb

[azure swan]

kill the enty first

[untold crater]

akaga counter enty

[cinder wolf]

[oblique silo]

New Jersey and Shimakaze

[trail temple]

A preload carrier and warspite

[neon bronze]

preloaders
e.g. aquila, perseus, shimakaze w/ teatorps + black torp aux
snipers
e.g. new jersey, vanguard, warspite retro, vittorio veneto (?)

don't do shinano, hiryuu , etc. they're unreliable at best because enterprise has rng on her side

[candid sluice]

[floral wave]

is this why shinano/hiryuu is top3 fleet and nobody even considers enty?

[untold crater]

Enty is just dated

Gapped ship

[stable dawn]

Enty is not consistent enough to be meta in pvp. It's the same reason no top players use Helena.

[untold crater]

MK would like to know your location

Actually nevermind he has radar scan he already knows it

[trail temple]

Yukana doesn't know the true power of Enty

[pseudo copper]

@jolly lichen Brah made a 3rd update to the series: https://youtu.be/XUlkPOj5IEc. Truly Percy underrated

[jolly lichen]

very cool, you can stop pinging me with them now

[old nimbus]

But I thought she was InCoNsIStEnT

[floral wave]

how is percy inconsistent

[dreamy lance]

He is discussing Enterprise

[old nimbus]

No, peresy and I don't think she's inconsistent Im just a messager who doesn't deliver messages
So i listen

ask the people that do instead

[untold crater]

Percy is probably one of the most consistent ships

Guaranteed 2 AS and die

Rare to get a 3rd AS and lose

[neon bronze]

In the context of against enterprise, they're reliable normally but is prone to get owarida'd by enty

In the context of the pvp meta as a whole. They hit hard, in the case of Hiryuu she survives a bit more after taking lethal dmg and possibly beat the opposing fleet with that airstrike.

But preloads and fast hitters are prioritized because they practically disable the heavy hitters before they get to fire salvos or airstrikes.

[old nimbus]

Duca or rikka?

[neon bronze]

Duca, rikka too pepega for pvp

[old nimbus]

What do Pepepa mean now?

[neon bronze]

in response to a stupid situation, usually from a streamer

looking back i may have misused the emote. A lot.

[candid sluice]

twitch word cringe

[untold crater]

Aware

💀

[pseudo copper]

Enty meta again?

Enty > weeb? @candid sluice

[untold crater]

I don't see Enty on the tier list bro

Do i have to get White on your ass or what

[candid sluice]

no its clearly persus

[pseudo copper]

[candid sluice]

we need a part 4 to make sure she truly is new meta

[pseudo copper]

I'd have pinged Brah now, but Brah isn't here anymore

[untold crater]

He is here

In spirit

What happen to that guy anyway

[dreamy lance]

He became an esper

[pseudo copper]

#gameplay-help tells me Stryk is his alt

[candid sluice]

dont worry hes still active in the superior server

[pseudo copper]

I am unsure if this is true or not

[floral wave]

[pseudo copper]

Even uses , must be his alt

@floral wave when 4th video?

[floral wave]

theres no pepelaugh in here

if i was brah my breguets would be +12 or 13

[pseudo copper]

Are they?

[azure swan]

baguette plane

[floral wave]

nop

[pseudo copper]

[floral wave]

[pseudo copper]

Dw Brah

Your secret is safe with me

[candid sluice]

ban evasion?

[pseudo copper]

It's just Brah's brother

[oblique silo]

Evading a ban that wasn’t even warranted

[candid sluice]

too true

[floral wave]

feels like im getting ninja'd onto

[pseudo copper]

He called EU BB outside NJ and Georgia 🚮. Was 100% warranted

[untold crater]

I can't even name one EU BB outside of NJ and Georgia

And mine are all like 120

[floral wave]

already forgor rld tech grind?

[untold crater]

It was some states right

Utah, Iowa, Illinois, Kansas?

I forget which ones

Wyoming?

[floral wave]

california, pennsylvania, tennessee, nevada, oklahoma

[untold crater]

I didn't even know those were in the game damn

[floral wave]

your bb rld not at max?

[untold crater]

Oh would you look at that, they do exist

[untold crater]

Is +15 max? Or am I missing a state

Where is USS Rhode Island BB

[floral wave]

no clue, im mid bb rld atm

its either 15 or 16 from 120ing i think

depends whether uvh is +2 or +1

[untold crater]

She 1

[floral wave]

15 then

[untold crater]

Only +2 were gasc and doy

Iirc

Was doy even rld?

[floral wave]

ye

+2

[pseudo copper]

You should let the voice that simps for freedom out in this case

[dreamy lance]

Pity they didn't allow espers into ALO, once they found out Brah unlocked his powers they had to ban him

Evidence for this was his sabrina thumbnail from the most recent video, they could not let psychic powers control ALO

[pseudo copper]

Hmm, so Brah hopped from simping Misato to Sabrina now

Just like Brah to do this

[candid sluice]

real gamers simp elesa

[stable dawn]

[dreamy lance]

His misato simping hasn't ended.

[flat veldt]

[trail temple]

Just remember guys, Enterprise comps beat weeb

Well, that's what I understood from what that other guy said...

[untold crater]

TIL weeb is cope

[trail temple]

Weeb fleet bad, embrace USS

[untold crater]

Nard approves @steel coral

[flat veldt]

Is that the White tech?

Manjuu goes on Enty right?

[untold crater]

Indep bro

Get that 2nd AS off

[steel coral]

manjuu goes on bristol

[candid sluice]

Quyet meta

[torpid shuttle]

is vanny in vanny shinano hiryuu just a meatshield

do i still run the 457 afc shell when im running naval treaty?

[winged depot]

She can kill if all her salvos hit nj

[untold crater]

She does good dmg

Can out MVP NJ sometimes

But that's more due to firing first tbh

[torpid shuttle]

so

i was wondering if i do rudder or smth

ill stick to it

[cursive jackal]

Is JB enough to counter her?

[untold crater]

JB is trash

[dreamy lance]

if you mean in IJN you can run hiryuu as the meat shield and run more tank option on your backline

[coral wren]

I love kashino , is she good in pvp?

[oblique silo]

No

[coral wren]

Why?

[empty mesa]

Only with Manjuu Vestal.

[flat veldt]

Shanjuu tech

[pseudo copper]

@late heath Someone wants Kashino enlightenment

[late heath]

She’s very good, good ship, use her, set her as your secretary, 125/200 her

Once you start using her, you’ll be successful just like me

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/892024913764950036/1016629750980157500/unknown-39.png

It’s all in the power of Kashino

[candid sluice]

the numbers dont lie

[coral wren]

People use vestal in pvp? idk she's that good in pvp

[coral wren]

[empty mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4tm7fvbeOg

[candid sluice]

shanju should apply for cc with all these exposing vids

[stable dawn]

watch out, you could be banned in this discord for less

[coral wren]

Who? Me?

[dreamy lance]

you could be banned in this discord for saying that a certain faction is shit

so never call a ship shit

[floral wave]

but kms ...

[untold crater]

Especially not kms

Never know which Nazi gonna pop out of the woodworks

[floral wave]

now thats a report for sure

wait no, crauce is banned here i think

[coral wren]

I'm not saying anything bad about factions, i was just surprised

[oblique silo]

Or for saying “PP”

[empty mesa]

Time to ban this dude.

[sour oasis]

I always thought it was HMS

[random radish]

If I don't have vv, aquila and nj is it going to be impossible to reach leaderboard?

[untold crater]

Show dock

[untold crater]

No

Gears and attacker bonus can carry you quite far

[random radish]

Idk how to make pvp dock so here is mine

[untold crater]

Show your dock

All your ships

[random radish]

ok

[untold crater]

But seeing you have these ships i can already make you a great fleet

Swap FdG for Hiryuu, Kron for Anchorage, and Sandy for Juneau

[random radish]

I don't have ancho but I'm planning to get her soon and jeneau I got her

[untold crater]

When you do get ancho, dev 10 is enough to make her usable in pvp

[random radish]

alr

[untold crater]

Until then you can use Juneau/Shima/Helena

[random radish]

ok

thank you

kind stranger

pearl's tears to juneau or shima?

[untold crater]

As for the gears check the pins and look for those ships on the tier list, i don't think there is that specific comp but you should be able to figure it out

[random radish]

alright

thx

[untold crater]

Actually 1 sec

[random radish]

ok

[untold crater]

Something like this

[random radish]

ok

[candid sluice]

💀

[flat veldt]

Can you make the gears more noob friendly pls

[trail temple]

There's some event only gears in there, can't assume noobs to have them

[untold crater]

This dude playing since Shima event at least so maybe doesn't have goldburn yeah

[rare flicker]

How many hp +13 goldburn has

What aug sud aquila use? Scepter or bow?

[frigid hamlet]

640
scepter

[rare flicker]

Oki

[random radish]

I don't got this for shinano

but right now I'm using f7f tigercat

and I got some sea hornets

[candid sluice]

Use barracuda

[random radish]

ok

[trail temple]

Want torp bombers for Shinano

[untold crater]

Have 2 tenrai but no Breguet?

[flat veldt]

@jolly lichen sorry for the ping someone told me you wanted to see "Part 4" of this series?

https://youtu.be/4jdSnCpm5yo

[untold crater]

[stable dawn]

[royal beacon]

Harbin pvp meta now?

[jolly lichen]

no, I didn't

[sour oasis]

Another interchangeable IJN torpedo ship

[untold crater]

Harbin IJN

[sour oasis]

Close enough

Duca degli Abruzzi is IJN

[untold crater]

Good = IJN

[sour oasis]

||Kisaragi and Mutsuki meta when||

But to me, "IJN" is synonymous with "torpedo boat" Azuma isn't IJN enough

[random radish]

I don't have any ur planes

And other gears

But I have half of the things in there

[trail temple]

Yukana having unrealistic expectations for casuals smh

Purple or gold helldiver works if you don't have tenrai

Barracuda or breguet (if you did the event) if you don't have a wyvern

Breguet is faster than barracuda and can intercept like Wyvern

[untold crater]

Point is i give what i think is BiS and they tell me what they don't have so we can figure out an alternative

[flat veldt]

Why Juneau tank?

[untold crater]

Over off-tank? Can argue without NJ DR she want off-tank, but i slapped boiler and bulge ti try and mitigate that

Can swap to off-tank if she's dying too soon

[trail temple]

I think I know what's going on. Yukana is trying to be like Famine and give sussy advice

[candid sluice]

Unaware

[atomic steeple]

I hate Anchorage

She can dodge all my ayanami and yukikaze torpedo like it's nothing 😭

[untold crater]

Eva rate

[atomic steeple]

I came back after 1 year and miss everything

Bruh

[untold crater]

[neon bronze]

at least you can start saving for them buildable URs and meta ships

and Ancho's free in PR4

[random radish]

what Dev ancho become useful in pvp?

[dreamy lance]

25+ is basically the same as 30, anything above dev 10 for preloaded torps is useful already

[untold crater]

10

[sour oasis]

Set her on fire
||But yeah, you got power crept; so many UR gear to get||
On the upside, game has a lot more PvP players. The number of tryhard defense fleets is down from what they used to be. (Avrora went from 95% to 90%; with some luck, you can run into some no Anchorage or bad Anchorage defenses.)

[winged depot]

what are the chances I resetted the same 4 opponents

[sour oasis]

On one try? Very low. At least the 4th should change.

[winged depot]

I got all 4...

again

[sour oasis]

Try again. You get 5 resets a day.

[winged depot]

that was my last reset

[sour oasis]

Well.
Why did you want to reset? Find easier fights?

[winged depot]

higher ranks, cause all of them are below

[sour oasis]

Oh. If you're in that high of a spot, then the chance of getting the same group is much higher.

[winged depot]

[sour oasis]

I spent four refreshes and saw the same top three in three of them.

I was like rank 9, so...

Just eat the +9 and rush to your AotN. ||And get sleep the rest of the season||

[winged depot]

yeah probably

[sour oasis]

You can drag anchor and sandbag... If you can guarantee you won't lose any tickets.

[candid sluice]

Ranchchamp

[winged depot]

I saw someone who could move so I stopped

[river marsh]

@winged depot

move pls

nvm someone else moved

[winged depot]

[untold crater]

Ping for movers players

[rare flicker]

Amagi??

[untold crater]

Amagae players

[frosty goblet]

[frosty goblet]

Aldeez

[dreamy lance]

who has gotten their aotn?

[untold crater]

Not me bro

[river marsh]

percy meta in pvp?

[untold crater]

[torpid shuttle]

is naval and frontier additive or multiplicative

why run both for weeb

[untold crater]

You don't run both for weeb

Only one applies

[torpid shuttle]

that's not the pins

well ok

ill be running frontier then

[untold crater]

FM has basically same stats as catapult

[steel coral]

frontier medal on flag for the effect, naval treaty on off-flag for the stats

[untold crater]

Backwards

[torpid shuttle]

i misread it as having dupes of these unique items my bad

[untold crater]

But now we have feather to use over FM off-flag

[candid spoke]

Has there been any changes for pvp meta? kinda sick of venetto never using her barrage

[steel coral]

why would anyone use FM just for the stats?

[candid sluice]

Wait till stream announcements

[torpid shuttle]

did u try the zoomer fleet with vanny

[candid spoke]

Which one is that

[untold crater]

You +13 it before cata in case of needing to use it flag

But yes, cata has more HP than fm

[steel coral]

then why not just use it flag

[untold crater]

Swap VV for VG and maybe Duca for Harbin or Noshiro

[untold crater]

More winrate with WNT imo

[candid sluice]

💀

[steel coral]

cuz people prioritize NJ survivability over nano

[untold crater]

Prevent your nano dying more often

That ijn crash already overkill anyways

[candid spoke]

Oh right I can +13 the aa for the dmg

[torpid shuttle]

oh what is the treaty vs frontier use case

since im using vanny as opposed to nj, im not rly batting an eye tho

[untold crater]

More dmg with FM but you're also more susceptible to getting sniped by torps since you don't have that 15% DR that WNT provides

[strange tide]

Good god.

[river marsh]

can EN not make their defense fleet a pain in the ass to beat?

😭

fully oathed mafia/weeb fleets are so annoying

[untold crater]

Welcome to EN

2595 servers

[stable dawn]

competitive gamemode

[river marsh]

CN and JP with meme defense fleets even at EoS

then there's EN with tryhard defense fleets all season long

[mellow charm]

@jolly lichen ayo, part 5 just dropped and its epic
https://youtu.be/4YuapE9H7QY

[dreamy lance]

[pseudo copper]

Brah made a part 5? What dedication, but question is, will he make more?

[wide minnow]

If he does make more

And one of you pings silent for part 6

I’ll warn you for it

So knock it off. All of you.

He’s asked nicely for it to stop, and he won’t be asking again

[untold crater]

[thorn obsidian]

I’m working on skills/lvling now, how is this loadout

[winged depot]

probably use the dd gun with 25 AA and 20 fp, and if you can sextuple (a good AA can work I guess) and a boiler

[thorn obsidian]

Which dd gun there’s several

Also boiler?

[untold crater]

Don't use rudder

[winged depot]

you'll have a hard time killing her if you're using rudder

[untold crater]

Use boiler, if she dies too late, swap to Gyroscope

[thorn obsidian]

Oh I don’t have any of those

[winged depot]

you probably have some in craft

[thorn obsidian]

Maybe

Why those items exactly?

[untold crater]

Most likely

Speed

[thorn obsidian]

Oh

[winged depot]

speed is great in pvp

[untold crater]

Boiler gives HP, causes Juneau to die too late at times, so u use gyro to make her die earlier

You'll have to see with your own experience which works best for your fleet

[thorn obsidian]

Which dd gun?

[winged depot]

oh sorry, I'm using the twin 127mm Mk12, though you can also use the ijn one

[thorn obsidian]

So not the HMS gearlab one?

[untold crater]

I just use the kms AP from lab

[thorn obsidian]

Cause it’s also the same aa/fp

[winged depot]

nah, you'll probably waste those materials

[thorn obsidian]

I already have several made

[untold crater]

Yeah no reason not to craft them

[thorn obsidian]

What I have to work with

[winged depot]

well, if you have them already just use them I guess, doesn't really matter

[untold crater]

in reality it doesn't matter, Juneau does no dmg anyways

[coral wren]

This one @thorn obsidian

[dreamy lance]

Just use anything with the highest AA stat

[flint python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864969051163066409/919352340698513448/SpeepoDance_x69.gif

[pseudo copper]

@late heath What effect does the new Kashino skin have on the pvp balance and how many times should we buy it in order to gain an advantage?

[late heath]

Her new skin will boost Musashi so much that it is impossible to lose on attack

Buy it on every account that you have for maximum effect

[untold crater]

🧹

[stable dawn]

[pseudo copper]

How about the Kashino retro?

[late heath]

We don’t need retrofit, we need Kashino-chan

[untold crater]

Wouldn't that be Rare ship

[late heath]

UR Kashino-chan

[untold crater]

Or still Elite

UR? So next year unlucky

[late heath]

[fading wing]

Juneau retro was confirmed tho

[candid sluice]

juno retro new meta??

[trail temple]

Inb4 Juneau retro is a downgrade

[fading wing]

Likely the case, if she gets some whacky skill that causes her to survive she might not die early enough

[uncut agate]

just raise another Juneau then

[zenith lantern]

If the retro gives her damage having her survive might not be as bad as it is now

[torpid shuttle]

@neon bronze ask here about warkai and vv things

[neon bronze]

Ah, thx. I slept at that time.

[dreamy lance]

juneau surviving
just play her main tank

[random radish]

Is there a counter to mafia fleet?

Or is it just mafia vs mafia and whoever has best gear wins

[neon bronze]

read pins

there's sniper fleets that could beat mafia fleets.

[random radish]

Oh

I don't have nj

Guess I'll wait for her rerun

[thorn obsidian]

Can anyone replace this backline?

[candid sluice]

who do u have to replace with

[thorn obsidian]

Well that’s why I was asking who can replace

[candid sluice]

aquila over persussy

[thorn obsidian]

Ok so I’ll have to wait for her rerun

And as for Kron/Shima/Yuudog, it’d be anchor and Juneau right? Shima is still bis?

[candid sluice]

indeed

[south leaf]

Shima is recommended

[neon bronze]

can a lvl 100 anchorage with maxed skills be viable in pvp

[trail temple]

Up to a certain point, sure

[untold crater]

At dev30? Maybe

But leveling up takes no time

[neon bronze]

Just busted my xp packs on JdA and Aegir

[untold crater]

[gray beacon]

Idk who I'm saving my packs for. Perhaps ur or sub

[pseudo copper]

We can use subs in pvp?

[river marsh]

[random radish]

Imagine that

The last ships remaining just all subs

[past sonnet]

Jesus new Jersey just shreds the backline in pvp

[dreamy lance]

https://youtu.be/k3-msWya3ps That's the second Lexington player to use Perseus, are they onto something?

[somber monolith]

She focuses too much on the vangaurd if they aren’t dead

[dreamy lance]

that guy inthe video above also got top 10 EOS many, many times since the start of Lexington, it's really a tough fleet to beat

[untold island]

[candid sluice]

[somber monolith]

Isn’t the mob/mafia outdated now?

[untold crater]

Mafia used overwhelmingly still

[uncut agate]

mafia is still at the top of pvp meta

[merry vale]

Percy Warkai and Vanguard can take out mafia fleets relatively easily, killing Aquila before she can do anything usually guarantees a win.

I run that exact fleet just with yuudachi retrofit instead of abruzzi for the Torp crit buff she gives.

I don't need to reroll fights very often.

Teaboo fleet puts in work.

[coral wren]

Wish there was more variations, but then again pvp is piss easy content and just a gold bullin farm

Best pvp is to wait and use cool looking ships at lower ranks. Much more satisfying

[river marsh]

rip to being top 10

my eyes were being cringe on daily reset

i read 6/10 as 5/10

[empty mesa]

Yukana moment.

[river marsh]

probably the stupidest reason i have overcapped so far

[untold crater]

Did the same as u jinji 💀💀

[steel coral]

imagine

[untold crater]

imagine not overcapping yet

[pseudo copper]

[steel coral]

[untold island]

[stable dawn]

[candid sluice]

if you arent overcapping then what are you doing

[random radish]

I'll try that fleet when I get ancho. Thanks for sharing

[river marsh]

[dreamy lance]

anyone ready for EOS?????

[flat veldt]

[trail temple]

almost been a year since I was on the avrora ladder

[thorn ingot]

i hope musashi can rival nj

[waxen saddle]

Is this decent enough?

I did well against this

[merry vale]

UVH is gimped in pvp, FDG works but isn't winning any awards. FDG also wants flag.

[candid sluice]

That fleet is not good to base performance on

Fleet power too low to be properly equipped

[waxen saddle]

[trail temple]

That backline needs another 2k fleetpower, otherwise it's unlikely that it's properly geared

[uncut agate]

Nice, I got 2nd rank.
So many Perseus users

[untold crater]

[strange tide]

Oh, I think I never did the last five fights.

[untold crater]

Saving them for the next season i see

[empty mesa]

Amagae top10 plz. Thx.

[upbeat acorn]

@river marsh?

[river marsh]

what

[upbeat acorn]

I presumably killed you

[river marsh]

i always have a shitty fleet as defense

more people in EN need to do that

[upbeat acorn]

Yes you had a level 70 KGV

[river marsh]

is that a problem?

[untold crater]

She got wiped

[coral wren]

Hi everyone! Would some good samaritan help with my pvp fleet? I feel like I’m getting similar results, if not worse, than when I had Akaga (will make thread with photos)

Oh, can’t we make threads on here? Will post it here if that’s the case

[river marsh]

just post your pvp fleet or something

someone will help you

[coral wren]

Good, will do then

I can post my dock too, although without threads I don’t know if I should

[winged depot]

its fine if its here

[coral wren]

👌

And that’s it!

[winged depot]

you could do this backline VG, shinano, hiryuu. Front is juneau, yukikaze and anchorage

your ships seems similar to me anyways

[coral wren]

VG on flag?

[winged depot]

hiryuu

[coral wren]

So Hiryuu flag, ancho front, juneau back and yuki middle?

[winged depot]

could work, But I prefer juneau main tank, ancho off

[coral wren]

Could try this comp, it looks sturdier at least

👌

[candid sluice]

send your equipments too while youre at it

[coral wren]

Okey, those are the equips from my actual team (I have no hiryuu, yuki or juneau built up atm)

I do have Shinano built up tho

[candid sluice]

do u have hpfcr put it on warkai and give her 457 or mk4 if u dont have

should use gas on persus over a cata

also whats up with the vg are u trying to go full torp

[coral wren]

The hpfcr in exchange for the black shell right?

Will try those changes, thxs! (While I build the other team)

And compare the two

[candid sluice]

yes and swap her main gun to 457 or mk4

[coral wren]

Ok, what is gas haha

And yeah the vg is trying to be that and it seems it isn’t working. Might try with juneau and yuki

[pseudo copper]

Aviation fuel

Core shop aux

[coral wren]

👌

[coral wren]

I don’t have the 457, the mk 4 refers to Twin 406mm (16”/56 Mk 4 Prototype)?

Well, it’s more accurate say that my 457 is in VGs hands haha

[candid sluice]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(16"/56_Mk_4_Prototype)

make sure that vanguard shoots first tho so put the faster gun on her

[coral wren]

So 457 should go to Warkai and VG should have something slower like mk 4 prototype or?

Thanks for everything!

[winged depot]

VG needs the faster one

[candid sluice]

im pretty sure mk4 is faster so give that to vanguard

[coral wren]

Which one would be best suited? I don’t have more rainbows on me rn

[winged depot]

I feel like regardless of what you give her she's still fast cause of her skill

[coral wren]

From what I see mk4 looks like the fastest one from those ones. Maybe the triple 305mm is a bit faster

[candid sluice]

no dont use that

i meant the faster out of those two

[coral wren]

👌

[neon bronze]

Nice PvP placement

Surely there isn't something stopping me from doing PvP dailies?

am student

||unless if I force a classmate of mine to share their mobile data hotspot||

[untold crater]

What?

[neon bronze]

Woulda do pvp competitively for extra merits.

[candid sluice]

the struggle between education and azure lane pvp

[wicked surge]

Just get good WiFi

[thorn ingot]

can i ask for pvp fleet build here

[neon bronze]

First, read pins, and if you have the ship, copy that

If not, send ur dock. We'll help

I myself are not well versed in PvP. But the others here are.

[thorn ingot]

yeah looks like i don’t have most of those ships

[floral wave]

then post dock

[floral wave]

anchorage/juneau/hiryuu?

if neither then idk tbh,
shinano/warspite/enty or indep
jervis/helena/suzutsuki

[floral wave]

youre fighting shit fleets with harbin

how is that suddenly an easier kill

[honest moon]

Imagine being a coward and using trashchorage- juneau

[ancient skiff]

Damn man, where did anchorage hurt you

[candid sluice]

Ah yes let me be a big brave man and use mutsuki

[untold crater]

[floral wave]

just paint her rainbow and shes ready

[honest moon]

Oh don't get me wrong, i have no issues taking the backline down.

It's just using invulnerability is for pussis

Now pair that invulnerability with a healer and a "elite" damage control unit that extends invulnerability

[floral wave]

healer

in pvp

[honest moon]

The ultimate act of cowardice

[honest moon]

Juneau

Who btw is getting retro

[floral wave]

if it wins, it wins

[honest moon]

There is no honour in ill gotten gains

[floral wave]

win as long as not collusion is a win

[candid sluice]

I found somebody saltier than me

[ancient skiff]

[winged depot]

Sounds like a massive skill issue

[river marsh]

bro just win smh

[honest moon]

In using pussi invulnerability? Indeed.

Btw I'm just raising this here even though i have no issue deleting backlines. Pussichorage can't do jack on her own

[winged depot]

Sure

Since you have no issue deleting backline, why are you still salty af?

You said it yourself, she can't do anything herself smh

[candid sluice]

Just kill her faster

[winged depot]

Facts

[honest moon]

You're claiming I'm salty

[winged depot]

You're not?

[honest moon]

I'm just pointing out flawed skill design

[honest moon]

Shocking ain't it

[winged depot]

[honest moon]

Imagine having invulnerability

Weak

[river marsh]

if you're gonna be this salty, you're gonna start thinking that you're doing stuff right and that the game is the one at fault

[honest moon]

Pathetic

[river marsh]

therefore making you less likely to see your problems

[honest moon]

Pls i delete meta backline with ease

[river marsh]

yea

[winged depot]

#game-feedback exists too

[river marsh]

and you're still complaining?

[honest moon]

Cos a flaw is still a flaw?

[river marsh]

deleting backline is almost always a guaranteed win

go to feedback then

[honest moon]

The flaw will even be more striking with juneau retro.. just saying

[winged depot]

Again #game-feedback i'm redirecting you

[river marsh]

go to feedback and complain there

[floral wave]

juneau isnt even used that much nowadays

[trail temple]

I see more perseus than juneau, js