history

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er

why can't you

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Check my roles

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Previous record holder was the 11.15in Amiens gun outside the Australian war memorial

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that only says that you can't not why

unless that's a forbidden topic

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Man posted a pic of Foch with the tiniest camel toe visible

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lmao

[spring briar]

I wanna go visit the museum of naval firepower

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how the fuck did albert kesselring avoid execution while the generals under him who followed his orders were executed

kinda bullshit if you ask me

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Lot of factors there

The death verdict against Kesselring generated outrage in the United Kingdom, where Kesselring was viewed sympathetically by his former foes, including the former Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, and Alexander, who sent a telegram to Prime Minister Clement Attlee in which he expressed his hope that Kesselring's sentence would be commuted

Then there is the fact of Italy being against execution punishment since it was a thing of their fascist regime

Then there is cold war where Germany needs more manpower to have more chance against Soviet forces

And health reports of him being very sick for smoking too much

He only lived 7 years free anyway. Would die in prison less than 5 years

Kesselring maintained that the order to kill ten Italian civilians for each German soldier killed by partisans was "just and lawful".

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Tho yeah this was super sus

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i assure you that executing these civilians is not a war crime

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🤝 🇺🇲

Yorktown and Admiral Levchenko exercise

[tough quail]

good lord yorktown looks weirder the more i look at her

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https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1543305992737267719?s=20&t=GHn55S0sxLF0mDj-K1nauA

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

In 1990, a @USAF B-52 was five miles out from USS Ranger and asked permission to do a fly-by. The carrier granted the request, but said they had no visual on the plane. The B-52 told them to look down, and then flew past the Ranger below the flight deck level. #SeaStorySaturday

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jesus christ

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it's down there because it's weighed down by the balls of the pilots

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Uss Ranger with Tu-16

[fervent bobcat]

This game has corrupted me so much I didn't see a beach ball at first

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Good you share that fact here

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history, yes

historical photo indeed

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Loving how educational and historical this is bro

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solely because of the "historical photos" name

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wtf???

[spring briar]

ah yes #history

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> Family And Pets

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#history moment indeed

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Bear and Enty

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https://youtube.com/shorts/LIQrRp6o9WM?feature=share

Who wants to brave the YouTube comments section

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I predict the following:

• I am not a [Nazi, Nazi sympathizer, Nazi apologist], but...
• It should be alright to say that...

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man

a lot of Denmark slander

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I am not a Nazi apologist but Denmark is a Danish country.

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I'm not a nazi but man it's a shame they lost

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I am not a Nazi apologist but Denm a rk is a D anish country.

[alpine onyx]

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💀

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Pavlov's house is a few magnitudes further away than Paris

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Excuse me sir please don't use logic

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Oh, okay

Bismarck is the best, he's the only true battle ship since he could go on the atlantic with only a single escort instead and wasn't shore bombarding

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Bismarck was actually a battlecruiser because he’s the only ship that can cruise consistently at 30 knots and my source is quora

[chilly osprey]

It's also a submarine, it dived to a record depth in 1941 and then came back up 28 years later to establish a base on the Moon

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the only reason that bismarck is called a he is because of the stubborn admiral right?

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Captain

And really, mostly because some later writers decided to “acknowledge” his choice by using his preferred lingo

[alpine onyx]

The prominent reason is Lindemann, yes

[spring briar]

*Blindeman

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*Lindybeige

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Bren > Spandau (MG34/42)

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Lewis better

Lewis can hold 97 rounds, clearly superior

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Lewis can sustain 600rpm in rough seas

[spring briar]

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God Tie Fighter is so cursed

It's so much more advanced compared to current fighters for space flight abilities and weapons

Yet it's max speed in atmosphere is 746 mph (1,200 km/h) only

And has no shields so any missile can take it out

Likely has no flares either

[spring briar]

[delicate beacon]

No hyperdrive, no atmosphere. It's a minimum weapon of war. Tarkin doctrine meant they want as many of them as possible rather than good ones for actual combat.

But why are we talking SW?

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Just a what if as Empire attacked earth today

Wonder if nukes would work for Star Destroyers

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No

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Main issue is its two massive squares blocking vision on both sides

why

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Just use cameras and a HUD

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You also become a massive target

Imagine engaging an x wing on its side

Versus engaging a tie fighter on its side

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Spaced armor

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Interceptor is better I guess

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Also it would be a deflection shot so eh

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Or tie phantom

[spring briar]

Tie your shoes

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are people still making that joke

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You know what, fuck you
F-22s your shuttle

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Submarine Rio Grande do Sul with GUPPY silhouette

Although i don't know if that's the Balao or the Tench class one

It doesn't help that in the same year the Balao one was retired (1972)
The Tench class one came, with the same name
And same hull number

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Jaba the Empire apologist

[rapid junco]

Same year
With 9 days apart
The Balao class one was retired on May 2nd, 1972
And the Tench class one was commissioned on May 13th, 1972

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French ww2 surrender jokes will carry on for a while

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no i mean the stalingrad lasted longer then x joke

[spring briar]

Bruh seriously

That isn’t even a thing

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stalingrad lasted longer than your mum last night

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Novgorod lasted longer than France, Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands, Yugoslavia, Greece, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, Monaco and Italy combined.

[tough quail]

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moresby lasted longer than bataan

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sweden lasted longer then the kingdom of denmark,the commonwealth and the tsardom

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China lasted longer than the USSR and US combined

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actually no

ussr yes but china no the qing fell when the US was still young

[spiral cedar]

I meant Second Sino-Japanese War

8 years is more than <4 years + <4 years

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I subscribe to the 1931 start school of thought

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That also works

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14 years

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Still doesn’t last as long as your GFs in bed

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san marino lasted longer then the most of europe

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what's this about bataan?

🤨

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bhlx/images/6/62/BataanSleepy.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20190731162205

Does she look like she lasts long

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yes she lasts long in bed because of the comfy pajamas

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You can thank MacArthur for fucking the Philippines and Bataan

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filipinos know more about macarthur than filipino generals

that was how powerful his propaganda was

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"I shall proceed to ignore warnings that an invasion is afoot, and even let the Japanese have their hands on a B-17"

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japanese couldn't possibly invade before april 1942

-macarthur (probably)

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Part of me wonders what could have happened if US decided to go for Formosa instead and have Sho-II-Go put into action

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formosa is taiwan right?

[eternal veldt]

Yeap.

The whole strait just littered with IJN wrecks

Or the Mariana Trench, albeit some distance away

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shame that the majority of filipinos don't know much about ww2 even though the country was devastated during the war

[eternal veldt]

Its an interest, tbh

You tell most people these things and they'd go "oh, okay".

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fair enough

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Doolittle Raid moment

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Hello

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Something is wrong here.

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Even Zhukov had more hair

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More hair, less testerone

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https://tenor.com/view/zhukov-zhukov-mad-death-of-stalin-gif-21151732

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theres a couple of things wrong

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this is probably one of the most insane shit I've ever seen

translation is roughly "Hidden Secret: Napoleon Bonaparte is a Muslim, thought to be from Makassar"

TLDR it claimed Napoleon changed his name into Ali Bonaparte and was planning to turn France into a Caliphate, which was why the Wars of Coalition started, because European powers are afraid of a resurgent Islamic empire

@spring briar you may find this highly interesting

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Enver Pasha as Turkish Napoleon in German Magazine

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"The United States have no hostile intentions. Their battleships simply want to be melodious mermaids going around the world to sing about peace and love... be alert, sailors"

the image was published on the cover of Il Fischietto magazine, mocking the 'Great White Fleet' that sailed around the world 1907-08 in a demonstration of US naval strength

Italian propaganda

[dapper parcel]

Don't worry, there's a lot of similar stuffs going around

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We should have never left.

[dapper parcel]

Fringe and conspiracy theories getting disproportionally large attention isn't unique

In fact, I believe some are just that, trying to sell books

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So you're saying I should add a fringe conspiracy theory to my book.

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you know funny thing is this isn't the weirdest thing that has been going around lately

[dapper parcel]

The more outlandish your claims are, the more people curious to find out what the fuck was going on
Bonus point if you catch actual nutjob, you got future clients

[remote monolith]

you know Borobudur? The painfully obviously Buddhist monument with Buddhist iconography, reference to the Buddha, has Buddhist architectural style and has an inscription literally saying it was built by a Buddhist dynasty?

well some nutjob said it's actually built by King Solomon

who walked all the way from Israel to Indonesia

and that Borobudur was actually teleported from Iraq to Indonesia which caused an Ice Age

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Parted the sea too I pressume?

[remote monolith]

unfortunately no sea parting

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King Solomon is Buddhist ig

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Then how did he walk there

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He floated there

With his enlightenment aura

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Walked on water

)))

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Like zenyatta, founder of Buddhism

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Oh wait that's different story

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teleportation probably

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Lets not get too Christian

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the guy did claimed he teleported an entire temple complex

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https://www.amazon.com/Helicopter-Pounds-Dinosaur-Billionaire-Novel-ebook/dp/B011YHWHPI

[remote monolith]

also another incident had Majapahit being claimed as an Islamic empire

[spring briar]

fanfic level: 1000000

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Oh I have an idea

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with Gajah Mahda being said as an Arab named Gaj Ahmada

[dapper parcel]

how do you pronounce Gaj Ahmada?

[remote monolith]

no fucking idea

[delicate beacon]

I should claim the Soyuzes were Dutch orders for project 1047 but because the Germans invaded they commissioned them at neutral dockyards. Project 23 + 24 = 47. It makes sense.

[remote monolith]

but yeah, this is just part of a series of weird revisionist crap that all says basically the same thing, which is various figures actually being Muslim yadayadayada

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Shakespeare is actually Sheikh Pir. Thus he was an Arab Muslim not British

[remote monolith]

also they must always have the caveat that these figures are actually Indonesian

[spring briar]

Soyuz is actually a muslim called So'Yadus Ibn al Feid

[remote monolith]

for example, Hitler being claimed as a native Surabayan and died in Indonesia

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Soyuz in Hijab

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Haram

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pretty sure some poor shucks actually spent time trying to track down Hitler's Indonesian grave some years ago

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Soyuz with 16" belt

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So Project 24

[spring briar]

wait

what was pr 23's belt

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Depends on where

Middle is 375mm

[spring briar]

bruh

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Goes higher under magazines

Vanguard moment

[spring briar]

so about 250 mm when accounting for armor quality?

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If non cemented 375mm armor makes it fall to 250mm of cemented armor than I have no clue why people don't worship that armor

[spring briar]

250 mm rated to just stop a fast tennis ball

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@spring briar

Explain this

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that's kinda cute

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Ye careful with the red one

[spring briar]

but remove swastika chick and turn it into a nugget

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[dapper parcel]

Would you eat nazi chick?

[spring briar]

hell yeah

turn that straight into shit

the biological way

not the design bureau way

also the drawing isn't accurate

where's the channel

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"The Jewish Plot against Europe" Vichy France

[spring briar]

I mean this is true for the right part of the poster

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doesn't include Turkey

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[spring briar]

also krem you got some sources on the 1000 lb bomb tests against Soyuz prelim deck

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I know of the torpedo tests. Let me check for bombs

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Here the belt while I am at it

[spring briar]

I know lol

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That's a cursed armour scheme

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Cursed and not very logical

[dapper parcel]

Works™️
until the enemy come from the wrong direction

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Great for bow tanking

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Nah couldn't find anything about 1000lb bomb tests. Only I know she was designed to withstand 500kg HE bombs.
But the testing model was done for Torpedos only from what I read

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Kinda. That's why the proposed upgrades (1941) for series 2 Soyuz class (Starting from 5. Sister) were these

1. Speed increase to 30 from 27-28

2. Increase AA (twelve to sixteen 100mm)

3. Improvements over armor scheme as well as simplification in terms of number of different armor thicknesses

4. Replace Pugliese scheme with Multibulkhead American type (Torpedo damage tests showed American was better)

5. six KOR-2 Seaplanes instead four.

6. Increased range (10,000 miles at 18 kts)

Tho of course June 1941 happened then the engineers who were working on this design had to transfer from Leningrad to Kazan near Moskov together with archives. These boys there eventually transformed the design to Project 24. (Design was transfered from TSKB-4 to TSKB-17 later)

Fun fact TSKB-17 was also working on Stalingrad design. So it could explain why Soyuz style appreance of Project 24 suddenly turned to Stalingrad X Soyuz later

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Actually Tskb 17 was working on Project 68k, 68bis, 65, 82, 24 at same time

Tho of course because Stalin's fetish for Heavy cruisers. 82 got more interested than the battleship 24. But still the design evolved nicely

[spring briar]

eh

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Oh cmon Richy

Appearance of Project 24 would likely save Jean Bart from scrapping

[spring briar]

JB was scrapped in 1970

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Yep

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I don't think PR.24 would survive to fight against another BB in 1970

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Why wouldn't she. Iowas are still floating and got their refits few decades ago

[spring briar]

the engineers from PR.23 went on to design the battlecruisers

I doubt it would've been much different

but assuming missiles are out of the question and battleships would've been continued to be built

expect to see some true bullshit

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Hey its 1950s. Missiles weren't perfected yet

Not even Jean got missiles on her like Iowas right

[spring briar]

Jean did get a missile on her

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What was the year

I missed that it seems

[spring briar]

it was for the missile school

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I see

[spring briar]

the French also had nuclear 15" shells

but these are still classified

a lot of shit from the early cold war still is

also, could you give me the source for the Russians asking the French for the 450mm

[remote monolith]

how long do archives usually get declassed? 100 years?

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It's from good ol Soviet Battleships by Stephen Mclaughlin

[rapid junco]

Today is 4th of July
77 years ago, cruiser Bahia sank while doing her mission of guiding aircraft through the Dakar-Natal aerobridge
On the explosion, at least 100 lives were lost. Including 4 USN radio operators.
The ones who survived the explosion had to endure almost 4 days without water and food, being attacked by sharks and man o' war (Physalia physalis)
The final death toll is varied depending on the source
But i stick with the number of 336 (332 being Brazilians)
Which I saw on the Brazilian naval history, Volume V, Tome II

[spring briar]

send

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Nah, they get declassified once they're shared on a WT forum or when they realised they lost it.

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Here

Wait you want the whole book?

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Wrong

Even if its leaked. It will still stay classified

That's why Gaijin said they can't use info from leaks

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si

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Ok

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1- 356 mm
2 - 305 mm
 3 - canister with a charge for 305-mm/52 guns
4 - 406 mm

Gawd that Soyuz shell

Does look similar to Izmail's 356mm

[spring briar]

The one on the left is not 356

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What is it then

[spring briar]

320 from Novorossysk

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Bitch ass book lied to me

[spring briar]

What book lol

[spring briar]

Hahaha

It’s a Russian copy of the Italian shell

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Another reason for Undef to like Soyuz

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Also got info on these babes?

Soviet 368mm ultra long range shells

[spring briar]

They’re HE for long range shelling

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When firing with a full charge of 223 kg, the initial speed was 1390 m / s, and the range was 120.5 km. Thus, the same range was obtained as that of the "Paris" gun, but with a heavier projectile.

[spring briar]

There’s two paris guns

Well

Two types

One used by germany

And one used by france

And the latter was an interwar testbed which outclassed that russian shell

But that’s normal it was literally a 224mm/150 gun

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one to shoot at paris and the other in paris

[spring briar]

One to shoot at Paris

The other at Berlin

Rome gun time

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Ice cubes in wine

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i dont drink wine anyway so i dont care how you drink yours

and i like drinking cold stuff so ice good

[rapid junco]

I drink wine like
Once at a time
Never been into alcohol

[shrewd pecan]

optimal

[dusty kraken]

Wait, bicycles are meta?

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The meta is just flying

Shrine maidens in the army when

[dapper parcel]

He use helicopter at last
wait, what?

[eternal veldt]

Murmpixel required

[spring briar]

hahahaha

[ivory ridge]

Choose your fighter

[maiden citrus]

murm I choose you

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[dapper parcel]

I recognize that 12px murm

[tepid mulch]

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/images/sidearmslug/QSPR05.jpg

Lee-Enfield modified for tunnel combat

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Mozharovski Mk Kombain 

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Reminds me of people claiming a French cavalary charge managed to capture Dutch ships.

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Schelde S21 is that you?

[spring briar]

is that fake tho?

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_of_the_Dutch_fleet_at_Den_Helder

"capture of ships by horsemen is an extremely rare feat in military history"

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[spring briar]

bonjour protestants

what a beautiful day isn't it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIrLLG2ctzo

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Jan Willem de Winter sounds very French

[spring briar]

Jan Willem de Winter, graaf van Huessen (Kampen, 23 maart 1761 – Parijs, 2 juni 1812) was een brigadegeneraal van het Franse leger ten tijde van de Franse revolutionaire oorlogen en admiraal van de Hollandse vloot ten tijde van de napoleontische oorlogen. Hij is de enige Nederlander die in het Panthéon begraven ligt.

doesn't really matter when he spent basically all his life fighting for France lolw

franco dutch chad

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He used to Serve Dutch

Joined French later

Then defeated the Dutch as French

Smh

[spring briar]

there's a lot of foreign people mentioned on the arc de triomphe

since we atleast respect those that fought with us

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For Ulyanovsk

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Progress D-27

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only contra-rotating propfan engine to enter service.

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oh my, this looks lovely

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Indeed. Unlike Normal IL-2 Sturmovik. She wouldn't need to dive

Would use these moving barrels under pilot to shoot down instead. And bombs inside wings

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of all the enlightment era secret socities

why did the illumnati gain such a big name after they went away even though they werent exactly a global influence

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Why did Star Wars become more popular than Star Trek?

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Oh God

I forgot Rafale M doesn't have folding wings

France why

[spring briar]

oh no 36 feet vs folded up F 35 C's 31 feet what are we going to do

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that doesnt really answer it

and star wars did a deal of advertising for a new hope

the illumnati lasted less then a generation

[spring briar]

it has a catchy name

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fair enough

i mean looking at their actual history they seem to be more of a sub group of the much larger free masons then a actual big threat

[spring briar]

they were just a bunch of hippies in Bavaria with a cool name that got picked up by people with an agenda

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them being behind anything major is the dumbest conspiracy theory

that and the free masons given the outside of lodges i've seen i cant take it seriously

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Wish I was behind Soyuz

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suprisngly

havent really seen many that claim the illumnati was behind the soviet revolution

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It's usually related to Jews instead

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but thats because marx was a jew

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Ye

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and a decent number of jews got places in the party

[spring briar]

that would be hard without cutting back a lot on the fuel capacity and overall performance of the plane

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Design flaw

[spring briar]

as a carrier based aircraft maybe ye

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Scrolled up, saw that sentence, didn't narrow things down by much.

[spring briar]

I calculated that you can fit about 7 folding wing rafale M's in the same area you could normally only put 5 in

but you'll lose a lot from that juicy 3700 km range

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That's like. 42 planes instead 30

I would take that

[spring briar]

42/30 = 7/5

5head

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Find a new plane for PANG

Rafale will hurt her potential

[spring briar]

we've got plenty of time to figure out folding wing rafale

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[spring briar]

kremlin salty f18 fanboy

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Rafale is likely the only carrier fighter that can't fold its wings

That's the weird part here

Nah wait

Harrier couldn't too

British moment

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https://twitter.com/CiroNappi6/status/1544396196009197574

Ciro Nappi (@CiroNappi6)

According to RID magazine, the two brand new FREMM-ITA frigates optioned by Italian Navy to Fincantieri shipyard (to replace the two sold to Egypt), will be an "hybrid" version, as ASW warfare capability and 127/64 Vulcano OTO Melara naval gun (instead of 76/62 of ASW version).👀

Twitter · Jul 5, 2022, 7:02 PM

[chilly osprey]

Rafale isn't really that wide to begin with so folding wings aren't especially worth it

Also, it has to be said that filling carriers is not a game of tetris

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But Rich said 7 folding planes could take place of 5. Isn't that actually big difference

[chilly osprey]

You aren't usually cramming aircraft every place you possibly can because that makes moving them around and maintaining them a PITA, and can easily drop your effective sortie rate

[spring briar]

yes I put them as closely together as possible in a box just to show the maximum amount saved
likely it would be more like 6 vs 7

also decreases payload

increases complexity

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[spring briar]

and comparing the full wingspan of rafale M (36 ish feet) vs 43 feet for full wingspan of F-35C
you can understand why

[chilly osprey]

That is not as crammed together as you seem to think it is

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Ye bigger wing is better for arresting gear. That's why J-20 as carrier variant sounds big iffy

[spring briar]

the rafale has a large delta wing
with all benefits this gives
adding a significant fold would be shite

[chilly osprey]

But, for example, Cavour's hangar is divided into twelve 230 mq parking areas, for 12x AW101 or alternatively 10x AV-8B+ or F-35B. Similarly QE's hangar is sized for 20x F-35B.

If you decided to play tetris, you could definitely put more aircraft in the hangar, but that's not particularly effecient for aircraft handling and maintenance

[spring briar]

nor is it very helpful when damage occurs

you would ideally be able walk freely between the aircraft

and not climb on the ones on the outside to get to the cockpit

[chilly osprey]

Likewise, deck park is a thing, so your aircraft capacity isn't wholly just how much you can cram into your hangar

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Seems India will give a go for Folding Delta.

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[spring briar]

folding wing rafale would be pog tho
unnecessary but pog

I calculated that a folding wing Rafale would normally have something like a 26.3 feet wingspan

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😭

[spring briar]

F-14

sleeps

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Yeah but still

Folding wings may be one of the main factors India prefer F-18 over Rafale M for their carrier

[spring briar]

that's India's problem

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And France's problem is losing a customer here

[spring briar]

not the first time

nor the last

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[spring briar]

atleast we can cope

because our stuff is actually good

[delicate beacon]

So hows your assault rifle production doing

[spring briar]

famas or 416

[delicate beacon]

416 because you stopped FAMAS production no?

[spring briar]

416 is fine

[delicate beacon]

And very French

[spring briar]

France invented smokeless powder so every modern gun is French

except L85

[ivory ridge]

[spring briar]

in all seriousness I know we're using an HK rifle

and it hurts me

new french AR program pls

[exotic scarab]

Use the m4

[spring briar]

no that would be stupid

[chilly osprey]

Tbh selling to India is such a colossal PITA I'd kind of consider them not picking Rafale to be a bullet dodged for France/Dassault

[dusty kraken]

If the FAMAS is so good why isnt there a FAMAS 2

[exotic scarab]

There is

It's called the battle rifle in halo 2 and 3

[spring briar]

[exotic scarab]

It even has a burst that's barely enough to kill a grunt

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True

[tough quail]

https://twitter.com/QAZ_jpav/status/1544000588211523586

qaz (@QAZ_jpav)

Comedy on Wikipedia

Twitter · Jul 4, 2022, 4:50 PM

[spiral cedar]

Someone do the reverse but with GZ

[delicate beacon]

Someone do the reverse but with Fritz-X

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Don't ask Wehraboos why Soviets preffered design of Illustrious over Graf Zeppelin for Project 72 and why they sunk Zeppelin instead finishing it after war

[tough quail]

dont ask where the backbone of the entire german carrier program came from

[maiden citrus]

they saw the blessed hamburkagi and were like 'we need one, but in hamburg'

[desert agate]

Hippers are just German Myokos

Or something

[exotic scarab]

[frigid karma]

Fdg is German Mutsu

[spiral cedar]

Bismarck is German Nagato

Just with smaller guns

[desert agate]

I mean I think it's quite objective that the type 1936 destroyers are just copy's of the Fubuki class

[maiden citrus]

type 1936 destroyer engines are just german mutsu turret 3s

[exotic scarab]

the arisaka is the german 98

[tough quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553365243733213205/992066920826273892/image0.gif

[fierce sparrow]

. . .

[spring briar]

No

[dusty kraken]

nah man Panzer 4 is a Chi-Nu copy

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[fierce sparrow]

[delicate beacon]

Occasional reminders that the wehrbs are now right; the Panther is a main battle tank!

Hmm, Java's turrets may have been RP

[fierce sparrow]

the KF-51 interior is so odd for me.
I personally dislike the 4crew with an autoloader layout.
I feel like in practice, wont work.

[delicate beacon]

Oh yeah they were

[shrewd pecan]

depends

if you don't need the 4th crewmen just leave the spot empty

if you plan on having your tanks commanding a bunch of drones and other tasks the 4th crewmen can be valuable for both that and maintenance tasks

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Reload slave replaced by drone slave

[strong plank]

I like how we’re progressing toward tanks carrying drones for spotting

like how ships used to carry their own spotting aircraft

[shrewd pecan]

eh I think it will be valuable for providing C&C for accompanying unmanned vehicles

[ivory ridge]

So next up is Tanks with radar

[strong plank]

Next is smaller tanks to accompany the battle line of larger tanks

[shrewd pecan]

I mean K2 has one

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[delicate beacon]

Speaker tower upgrade is complete

[shrewd pecan]

anyone have a metric for how much weight TUSK 1 and TUSK 2 adds to the abrams

[strong plank]

Oh no

[spring briar]

k

[shrewd pecan]

ignoring that things entire mission set

[frigid karma]

posting binkov on this channel is questionable

[strong plank]

I just wonder what they’re gonna call the new vehicle

[shrewd pecan]

hoping not Schwarzkopf

since the light tank is only meant for airborne and infantry units

Not deserving the name of a armored officer in my opinion

[remote monolith]

quick, find a cat species name that hasn't seen much use

[strong plank]

That’s a rheinmetall thing

[spring briar]

Lynx

[fierce sparrow]

Task & Purpose viewrs also watch this channel
. . .

[remote monolith]

there's the Luchs tho

[strong plank]

lynx is already taken

[spring briar]

Ocelot

caracal

[strong plank]

It’s probably gonna be named after someone

[remote monolith]

the Brits got to Ocelot already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocelot_(vehicle)

[spring briar]

[remote monolith]

Caracal is nice tho

[strong plank]

wait it’s meant for airborne and infantry units right

name it after Gavin lmao

[desert agate]

Big floppa

[fierce sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627334630827098143/985855012687204372/IMG_4630.jpg

Thx France... for coming up with that weird crew config layout

[shrewd pecan]

I mean

it’s not actually the worse

it’s still preferable to keep at least one crewmember in the turret

[spring briar]

commit death

[fierce sparrow]

Imagine getting out of the tank...

[shrewd pecan]

(I’m assuming he’s in the turret since that’s the only logical thing to do there)

[spring briar]

also

isn't that sketch

like

wrong

with the driver being in the hull
and commander and gunner in the turret

[tough quail]

if thats supposed to be a leclerc yes thats wrong

[spring briar]

looks like a next gen tank concept maybe

and someone fucking oof'd on the crew placement

[tough quail]

this crew nonsense is getting old so fast

the drone guy for us tanks is already an assault to my brain cells

[spring briar]

the nerd

[shrewd pecan]

I mean if you’re planning on fielding a bunch of unmanned platforms alongside the next gen tanks it makes sense to have

[tough quail]

it's so transparently "we really want to keep a fourth guy but we're running out of excuses for it"

no it doesn't

there is no reason to need to command drones from an actual tank

just.. pilot them remotely

instead of where you can get fucking shot

its absolute nonsense

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Drone slave*

[tough quail]

useless bullshit*

[manic latch]

Abrams fans uno card: Useful for repairs

[delicate beacon]

Even Sweden had to make up an excuse to add a 3rd crewmember in the Stv.

[tough quail]

oops my tank got clapped and now i've also lost the capability to pilot the drones assigned to it because putting more eggs into once basket is a good idea

it's so goddamned stupid

[shrewd pecan]

how the fuck are you going to maintain the STRV-103 with only two crew members

regarding the drone operator thing

[fierce sparrow]

Isn't the S tank has like two drivers -ish... one from the front and the rear?

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What if repair drone

[tough quail]

🧠

[fierce sparrow]

repair drone... sounds very CnC games

[manic latch]

Ye slap a welding machine to one

[tough quail]

its just a shitty baby drone with a bunch of wrenches and glue strapped to it

[shrewd pecan]

depends, again I doubt it would only be a single tank commanding the drones and it would likely be overlap with other assets regardless

[spring briar]

one femboy per tank to keep the morale up

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[spring briar]

[delicate beacon]

one scout drone per platoon, the rest uses repair drones

[spring briar]

ayo horse
someone in another server:
"İ mean french stuff end up in the lower end of reliabllty trials in modern procurement programmed too"

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Big "i" Turk spotted

[tough quail]

source: dude trust me

[shrewd pecan]

for the C&C while under fire crap

[spring briar]

exactly

[shrewd pecan]

idk it’s a armored unit historically have been able to handle it, we had command abrams fighting off multiple Iraqi tanks during the gulf war

[spring briar]

mf's had to beg the Hungarians to engineer a siege mortar to breach the walls of Constantinople

[manic latch]

Make crew name their tanks after females.
Commission artists to draw tankgirl versions of her
Keep sending these arts to crew

Crew morale increased to maintain the tank and repair while also care it's safety

[spring briar]

imagine

begging the hungarians for engineering expertise

truly ottoman moment

[spring briar]

name each individual shell

[tough quail]

the drone thing is just throwing extra eggs into the basket for no reason

and, lets be real

its 99% a marketing gimmick for congress

[spring briar]

guy with Ipad in the back of the tank

[manic latch]

Dildo names

[tough quail]

because it sounds ADVANCED and FUTURISTIC

[spring briar]

you know dildo names?

[shrewd pecan]

yeah and we don’t need to have a entire maintenance company follow every tank unit as well

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Bad Dragon site visit

[tough quail]

it's the usual US brand of overbaked nonsense like every goofy ass integrated future rifle program

[fierce sparrow]

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

Don't do it Rich

[spring briar]

remember the advanced rifle program

mf flechette bullets

hahaha

2 bullets 1 shell

G11

[fierce sparrow]

I wonder how many of you remember MetalStorm

[shrewd pecan]

wasn’t textrons NGSW also making use of flechettes

[spring briar]

when's the last time people used caseless ammunition again?
of right
paper cartridge bullets in 1870

[tough quail]

at least one of those flechette meme guns looked really cool

[spring briar]

new tech is great but ffs think

[fierce sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8hlj4EbdsE

[spring briar]

I remember when I first saw this

a decade ago

electrically primed bs

[shrewd pecan]

Metal storm CIWS

[spring briar]

[fierce sparrow]

I blame Future Weapons TV show for this...

[tough quail]

i always liked this one

[shrewd pecan]

American AN-94

[fierce sparrow]

[spring briar]

metal storm mf's when they gotta replace the entire gun to reload

[shrewd pecan]

shame that program didn’t end up with everyone with carry handle acogs

[fierce sparrow]

way too tall...

[tough quail]

lmfao

[shrewd pecan]

it’s actually ideal

[spring briar]

good eye relief ye

[shrewd pecan]

especially compared to the giraffe neck mounts everyone is pulling these days

[fierce sparrow]

I'll stick with M1913 rail on the upper receiver.
Thx Mr. Swan...

[spring briar]

me with my aimpoint floating 2 feet above my rifle

[shrewd pecan]

Better than this

[spring briar]

not high enough

[fierce sparrow]

[spring briar]

you need to be able to hip fire it an still see through the reticle mate

[fierce sparrow]

gonna need a bigger cheek riser...

[spring briar]

ar on my hip

can't wait to get my new AR with 5.56 underwater ammunition to amphibiously invade your home through the toilet

[shrewd pecan]

removes carry handle from AR

spends 500 dollars on piece of plastic for raising sight to the same level as carry handle

[spring briar]

no boogaloo

shoots all stockpiled ammo

no ammo.exe

[shrewd pecan]

do your job every july 4th and mag dump the sky

[spring briar]

government gonna kill me.exe

buys new gun

stockpiles ammo

repeat

[manic latch]

Buy Rivets

[tough quail]

am i not supposed to do a mad minute with my mosin for the 4th

[shrewd pecan]

did you buy for it a stupidly cheap price surplus?

[manic latch]

AK fans enjoying cheap ammo

[shrewd pecan]

cheap ammo in the US?

especially for AKs

what are you crazy?!

[manic latch]

If only the president didn't become butthurt about AK bullets

[shrewd pecan]

its protectionism for the US gun industry more than anything

[spring briar]

that's bolt action

by the sheer power of math shall you not waste ammo

also it's literally a mosin

7.62x54R grows on trees

[tough quail]

u rite

i still need to buy one of the giant spam cans for funsies

[manic latch]

Second Prototype of twin seat J-20

Yup boys. Seems China will get the first twin seat fifth gen fighter

Really shame F-35 didn't get Twin seat variant. It would help her for future drone wingman ops

[shrewd pecan]

depends

F-35 doesn't really need twin seater with its avionics plus its typical support infrastructure

[manic latch]

Doesn't pilot control the wingman drones?

[shrewd pecan]

No

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Ground base does?

[shrewd pecan]

its autonomous

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Wait who gives orders

[cinder escarp]

Remember what they took from you

There was going to be an F-22B

[manic latch]

[shrewd pecan]

its either preprogrammed or given mid operation

its not directly you know piloted by anyone

[manic latch]

Don't forget F22N either

[shrewd pecan]

F-22N was dumb

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Only thing that killed her was collapse of Soviet Union

[shrewd pecan]

????

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Project cancelled in 1991

Good timing I would say

[shrewd pecan]

No it carried on longer than that

wasn't until 96 when it was canned

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Wiki lied to me

Wiki says 1991

[shrewd pecan]

swept wing fifth gen

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"Naval F-22 variant – a planned carrier-borne variant of the F-22 with variable-sweep wings for the U.S. Navy's Navy Advanced Tactical Fighter (NATF) program to replace the F-14 Tomcat. Program was cancelled in 1991"

[shrewd pecan]

scratch that

I read the wrong thing

I was looking at the twin seater F-22

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[shrewd pecan]

idk

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[shrewd pecan]

navy never really wanted it from what I can tell

only were in the program so the Airforce funded the A-12

[ivory ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/754162364718514226/994230350760906792/1657113371452.mp4

[shrewd pecan]

then the airforce cut its funding for the A-12

[manic latch]

Yet they got F35 later. Turns out there was a thing for Fifth gen on carriers

[shrewd pecan]

I mean they wanted a fifth gen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_A-12_Avenger_II

just not

a traditional fifth gen

[manic latch]

Does that thing have folding wings

[manic latch]

Oh it does

Now I want B-2 folding wings

[tender monolith]

that's just a cone

[manic latch]

By the looks sixth gen planes will look similar

[tender monolith]

gross

[manic latch]

Tempest will end up Fifth gen

[tender monolith]

i don't like new planes

[manic latch]

Stealth geometry ruins the planes

Like it did for ships

Can't wait for stealth geometry tanks

[tender monolith]

god

[shrewd pecan]

so this?

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Leo moment

[shrewd pecan]

SAAB Barracuda camo netting

[manic latch]

Is that umbrella or cage

[shrewd pecan]

umbrella

[manic latch]

What for

[shrewd pecan]

the sun

[manic latch]

So giving crew comfort

Interesting

[strong plank]

for camouflage presumably

[shrewd pecan]

also that

[strong plank]

since it’s real close to the roof of the turret

[shrewd pecan]

Barracuda reduces thermal signature along with some other nice features

[manic latch]

Put it on new Light tank

Speaking of new light tank

Why US decided to invest on them now

After decades

[shrewd pecan]

it has a actual need for it now

[manic latch]

And kinda Ironic. Marines no longer use Abrams right?

[strong plank]

Marines won’t be using the new one either

[shrewd pecan]

yes because there moving away from being 2nd army to focusing on their intended mission

[manic latch]

[shrewd pecan]

👁️ if they need tanks the Army is fully capable of providing them

[manic latch]

This girl can move now

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[shrewd pecan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Frank_S._Besson-class_support_vessel

[manic latch]

Will be needing them for future in Asia

[spring briar]

and rip your hand open when you slip with the can opener
good plan

[strong plank]

but yeah it makes sense for the marines to let the army handle the tanks, so they can free up funds for other stuff

like anti-ship capabilities

[shrewd pecan]

if the marines need the armored capability they can just get a assault gun version of the ACV

[manic latch]

Smol

[shrewd pecan]

its the Brazilian version of the super AV

there's a 105 armed version of it

[manic latch]

How about

New light tank

But

With wheels

[shrewd pecan]

No

With the requirements of the marines vehicle should have high commonality with the rest of the marine corps ACV fleet

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https://tenor.com/view/angry-black-kid-mad-guy-gif-11227855

[shrewd pecan]

It would be a pain and a half to make the griffin amphibious

and you’d likely make a bunch of unwanted sacrifices while doing it

[manic latch]

How often do you even use amphibious modes

[strong plank]

Well like

It’s the marines

[shrewd pecan]

It’s the marine corps

[manic latch]

You need to make a whole maintenance right

[strong plank]

The US isn’t Russia

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The day before

[strong plank]

we’ve got oceans between us and whoever we’re throwing down with

[shrewd pecan]

it needs the amphibious capability especially under new doctrine

[manic latch]

But you got tons of bases too right. Don't you guys drop your units through them?

[shrewd pecan]

The marine corps entire new doctrine is intended to fight extended island campaigns with limited logistics

[manic latch]

Ah the Asian Sea moment

Ok makes sense

[ivory ridge]

technically

the guarani came first

[shrewd pecan]

why would you throw in a non amphibious vehicle with no commonality with either the LAV replacement or the ACV?

[ivory ridge]

In 1999, the Brazilian Army made a requirement for the development of a new family of APC and IFV, by 2009 a contract was signed with Iveco Latin America for the production 2044 units of the VBTP-MR Guarani 6x6 APC, the 8x8 variant was later adapted to the SuperAV.

[shrewd pecan]

fair but it shows the platform is still capable of being made a assault gun if needed

[strong plank]

whoops

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[strong plank]

Sure, but think about the pacific

[manic latch]

Yeah I realised the Islands

[ivory ridge]

idk why but it looks bigger than the Freccia despite actually being smaller

[strong plank]

like, the amphibious requirement would be for making landfall, not for smaller stuff like river crossings

so it’s not really that negotiable when it comes to the marine corps’ needs

[shrewd pecan]

combine that with how few vehicles the marines usually work with

Like a MEU only has about 12-20 AAVs/ACVs for the entire battalion sized combat element

[strong plank]

I mean the light tank can still be designed with the pacific in mind, it just wouldn’t be for the marines

[shrewd pecan]

I mean it exists to support army airborne and infantry units

it’s intended role is to be rapidly deployable and give much needed firepower for those unit types

pacific wise I don’t really see it being too useful outside of situations with accessible airfields

[strong plank]

Yeah

[shrewd pecan]

but for rapidly reinforcing places like Europe and Korea it’s rather well suited

[strong plank]

right, but in a hypothetical conflict in the pacific, the marines wouldn’t be the only ones doing the fighting

[shrewd pecan]

Yeah but I doubt the army would be bringing the MPF around

[strong plank]

and I can sorta see how a smaller, easier-to-transport tank would look appealing for that sort of environment

[shrewd pecan]

honestly would be more likely to bring its abrams fleet especially with the capability offered by the US army’s landing ship fleet

[strong plank]

fair enough

[shrewd pecan]

heavier support for the marines

and you can get the job done with the M1A1SA fleet

Considering how few MPFs there are gonna be compared to the abrams fleet

it really depends on where the airborne units end up going

but I kinda doubt airborne are gonna be doing amphibious operations all that much

[strong plank]

yeah, I think I phrased my earlier statement poorly

[ivory ridge]

tfw

[ivory ridge]

not real

kekw

[shrewd pecan]

I couldn’t find any images of the 105

[ivory ridge]

i mean yeah it was planned

[shrewd pecan]

they weren’t like you know

[ivory ridge]

but they never even did a mock up

[shrewd pecan]

idk I still think the platforms capable of mounting either a 105 or a low recoil 120

[ivory ridge]

put a centauro 2 turret on it

[shrewd pecan]

probably would be a hitfist turret if they ever end up making a vehicle of the type

[ivory ridge]

considering a marder can use the 120

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684721152739770371/994227177774133310/16571126280656254550236051731195.jpg

this is the turret of the Centauro 120

[shrewd pecan]

seeing from what the marine corps would probably be fighting 105 would likely be sufficient

airborne and marine corps have plenty of tank killing potential especially with the overkill amount of javelins both are getting

[ivory ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684721152739770371/994236247243497613/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684721152739770371/994236297130541106/unknown.png

[shrewd pecan]

Along with loitering munitions in the near future

[ivory ridge]

Ascod with centauro 105 turret

[shrewd pecan]

god the army is gonna adopt the puma or something out of the blue despite already operating a griffin variant

[manic latch]

Bradley replacement

[ivory ridge]

i still want to see the Hitfact 2 version with the 105

[shrewd pecan]

thinking about it

when are we gonna get AMAP CV-90 in warthunder

[manic latch]

Should be soon eventually

[shrewd pecan]

like we have puma at 9.3 with stupid survivability due to AMAP

[manic latch]

Did PUMA had anti tank or anti air missiles

She doesn't have it in game

[shrewd pecan]

It has spikes

[manic latch]

That will carry her to 10.0

[ivory ridge]

Spikes, which Gaijin is allergic to

[ivory ridge]

lol

lmao

[shrewd pecan]

Which nothing in the current game but like two vehicles can counter

[ivory ridge]

10.0

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[spring briar]

Soyuz has a cute bow

[shrewd pecan]

actually I don’t even think the merkava IVM could counter spike

[manic latch]

Its PUMA. They ain't gonna yeet her to 11 instantly

[shrewd pecan]

due to the attack angles involved

[manic latch]

She is cute

[shrewd pecan]

if the puma gets spikes and immediately isn’t 11.7 or some shit

[ivory ridge]

idk, the APS ingame can destroy hellfires

[shrewd pecan]

it would destroy any game

[ivory ridge]

which are also top attack

so

[shrewd pecan]

idk hellfires usually come in a angle APS can handle

[ivory ridge]

heli hellfire?

eh

[shrewd pecan]

Yeah

[manic latch]

Would top attack work from 100m fights

[shrewd pecan]

It’s rarely smacking the top of the tank

usually hitting the side

[manic latch]

Do we even have top attack ammo in war thunder

Maybe they don't have the mechanic yet

[shrewd pecan]

we do

TOW-2B

and whatever the Swede missile is

[ivory ridge]

bill

[manic latch]

Thinking about it. That poor game engine was designed for ww2 plane fights

[ivory ridge]

the vehicle is called bill for a reason

[spring briar]

where MN

[shrewd pecan]

Swedish naming scheme for missiles

[spring briar]

[ivory ridge]

The Robotsystem 56 "BILL" (Rbs 56)

[shrewd pecan]

idk I only have like half of Swedes top tier since I b lined it for the CV90 and 122s

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T-90M with sexy nets

[shrewd pecan]

||assuming there’s any left intact by next year||

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684721152739770371/994231247092068442/16571135915602224020356444205488.jpg

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We do need more missile carriers in game. But I guess Gaijin doesn't want it

Since they aren't popular

Used for meme

[shrewd pecan]

we’ve been getting new ones

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What was the latest one. I only remember Japanese as most modern

[shrewd pecan]

just no F&F or NLOS ATGM carriers since they’d be broken as shit

[spring briar]

[shrewd pecan]

They literally just added a French one

[manic latch]

Nah not those type of carriers

Katyusha type I mean

You know

Spam and pray

[shrewd pecan]

they’re joke vehicles

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[shrewd pecan]

yeah lemme direct fire tanks with a HIMARs

[spring briar]

where MN

put me out of my misery

[manic latch]

Or M270

[shrewd pecan]

No HIMARs cooler

[manic latch]

Bullshit

Got the tracks and double firepower

[shrewd pecan]

and HIMARs has mobility

[manic latch]

Good luck on mountains

[shrewd pecan]

why would I be going on mountains in either

[manic latch]

If you had to

You would pick tracks

[shrewd pecan]

they can fling munitions out to 400 KMs

And have rockets that we now know can reach out to 82 KMs

[manic latch]

Yeah. Other one can fire %50 more of those

[shrewd pecan]

and?

[manic latch]

So it's better

[shrewd pecan]

It can’t as quickly relocate after firing

[manic latch]

True

But what will shoot you back from 400km

[shrewd pecan]

the second either fire

They’re priority for enemy air support or counter battery

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[shrewd pecan]

They’re firing multiple guided rockets with a CEP less than a yard into the enemy back line

|| makes me wonder what the actual range of the M31 GMLRS is since it’s apparently hitting targets out to 82 KMs despite being only “75 KMs” ||

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How do you confirm it was done by them. Checking the shell fragments or they have special way of exploding etc?

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it’s something I can’t really talk about here since it happened I’m -current event-

but they geolocated a firing position to the closest possible target that was about 82 KMs away

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Rheinmetall Skyranger 30 on Boxer 8x8 

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8x8? but those are 4 wheels on either side

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So how many wheels it has in total?

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dozen/1,5

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Bites

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massa

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https://youtu.be/GMOyNgLSX2g

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TIL Myanmar has its own stealth cupola for the 76mm

Also TIL Myanmar has such a relatively big navy

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I mean in that country you appease the arm forces other else

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Myanmar's arms industry is also surprisingly proficient

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Curious shape

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produces ton of crap domestically

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the soviet plan to encircle german troops in stalingrad by hitting them from behind was called operation uranus

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wait wait wait

Neostorm

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Hispanic nazis

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Expect the seven years war was over Silesia

And ww1 wasn't about colonies it was more about nationalism

I can't verify the first part but the second part literally contradicts book one of mein kampf and there is a large amount of proof of a systemic execution of jews even before camps and I'd like to see the claim that gassing was disproven but I don't want to end up on a watchlist

tl;Dr lol no that's almost all wrong

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Jfc now I have terminal fucking cancer

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I guess maybe the first claim was talking about whatever Hess was trying to do

But I would kinda like to know where he got it in his head that there was no gassing since I can't even think of how you would get that

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"delousing" is the usual excuse

ignoring that due to the differences respiratory system, it takes a higher concentration of hydrogen cyanide to kill an air breathing arthropod than it does to kill a human

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I'm sorry

But that claim doesn't make sense since if there delousing was causing everyone to die it would have ended after the first one

Oh also if they didn't want to exterminate them what was the einstatzgruppen or crystal night

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the point is that the claim was about the gas chambers being for delousing clothing and belongings

not with people in them

which is then also combined with a fallacious insinuation that a human could obviously survive more than some tiny louse even if there was some exposure

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what the fuck

they wanted to move the jews to madagascar

a french colony