history

[humble mulch]

Cause we can't find anything

[ivory ridge]

With a text like that?

Lmao

Unless you posted it in the previous thread and not the current

[spring briar]

what a nice and likeable person

[manic latch]

Dissapointment he will get if image turns out fake

[chilly osprey]

[manic latch]

[chilly osprey]

At least it's an improvement from 1939?

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

True

It will get even better in 1942

Oh wait

[spring briar]

[tough quail]

eh just give it a decade you're gonna slingshot past literally every navy but the USN anyway

[manic latch]

No Soyuz tho

[spring briar]

Soyuz is in our hearts

[tough quail]

yeah but the coolest looking DDGs by a wide margin

[manic latch]

[spring briar]

ayo horse

check my ride

[ivory ridge]

the water is made of the blood of her enemies

[tough quail]

immensely based

[delicate beacon]

*replaces the trips with quads*

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

Fren

[shrewd pecan]

Richelieu in the blood pool

[tough quail]

da

is good aesthetic

[manic latch]

[ivory ridge]

Ok but consider

[manic latch]

I think stealth fucked up the modern designs. Example from type 55

[ivory ridge]

front facing AShMs means you cant broadside fire them

which lowers the cool factor

[tough quail]

but they look so cool thooo

[manic latch]

Bow tanking meta smh
Average Jean Bart viewer

[ivory ridge]

muh broadsides
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/982998820860342342/jdike2r26r391.jpg

[spring briar]

"who would win bis or jb"

[ivory ridge]

Littorio

[manic latch]

Marat

[ivory ridge]

shes can take both of them

(not in a fight)

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

'Fujian' CSG

Type 055 DDGs
Type 052DL DDGs
Type 054B Frigates
New nuclear Subs
Carrier-based J-35 Fighters
Z-20 Helis
K-600 AWACS

Wait. Isn't that

Kinda low ammount of destroyers

[tough quail]

what if we put moskits on jean bart though

[ivory ridge]

British CSG looking ass

[manic latch]

Oi

[spring briar]

TDS

[manic latch]

Wait a second

Only 1 bottom?

[spring briar]

double bottom

[manic latch]

Oh thank god

Scared me there

[spring briar]

bruh

[chilly osprey]

mfw doesn't recognize a double bottom

[manic latch]

Counted thick plate as one

Dum move

[spring briar]

a 1.12 meter thick bottom

[delicate beacon]

Those aren't thick plates

[spring briar]

imagine

[manic latch]

WIDE PLATE

[delicate beacon]

No one's gonna call that ship top heavy

[chilly osprey]

'It's ballast'

[spring briar]

JB's bulge

[manic latch]

[delicate beacon]

If soviet ships get thick plates at the back of their turrets, JB can have a thick butt

[spring briar]

triple bottoms...

that's for people who wear bullet proof vests to the grocery store

coincidentally

[manic latch]

America: that's normal ye

[spring briar]

literal americans

ye

[chilly osprey]

idk the exact function in the Iowa-class, but in Italian battleships it tended to get used as automatic balancing channels

[spring briar]

wait
apparently JB had a basketball hoop on the rear turret plate

[chilly osprey]

which turret? No.II 380mm?

[delicate beacon]

Gotta keep gymming on those ships

[spring briar]

the B turret ye

doin a dunk from the top of the ss

[chilly osprey]

lol

[manic latch]

What's the plate writing on barbette

[delicate beacon]

Device

[spring briar]

"youre mome gay"

[chilly osprey]

Too far away to read

Usually those kinds of plates are there to commemorate actions the ship has taken part in

[spring briar]

Phoenix, can you guess who this is

[chilly osprey]

Do you have a date for this? And which ship specifically?

[tough quail]

oooh oooh i know this one it's nevada

[spring briar]

close but no cigar

[humble mulch]

Fuso with no guns

[spring briar]

hush

I'm asking the firebird

[chilly osprey]

Hmm, distance makes it hard to tell which member of the class it is

[spring briar]

It's ex-Eugenio de Savoia

[manic latch]

Don't think so

[spring briar]

as seen from JB

[chilly osprey]

Ahh, knowing it was a post-war photo would have helped a bit XD

[spring briar]

[chilly osprey]

[edgy linden]

this is fake btw

[ivory ridge]

and you know because...

share a source at least, we've been looking for one

[manic latch]

Gib source

Everyone is searching it

[edgy linden]

from dynamic on bilibili

[manic latch]

[edgy linden]

he does fan art of AL wows ships

[manic latch]

Share the news on on AL lore. They will want to see this

[edgy linden]

not in that chat

[ivory ridge]

can you send like an actual link and not a screenshot

[edgy linden]

:kek:

i don't have a bilibili account

[ivory ridge]

bilibili is stupid and i cant navigate chinese

[manic latch]

Then I will do it myself

[edgy linden]

https://space.bilibili.com/11696799/dynamic?spm_id_from=444.42.0.0

[delicate beacon]

[edgy linden]

literally just scroll down once you kick the link

although i will say

he might just be added to the yostar team for art

because he does really good stuff

[manic latch]

Fuuck

[ivory ridge]

knew it

it's them

[edgy linden]

trolled

his stuff is good though

dishwasher started with fan art so

he could join along

[ivory ridge]

The soviet battleship is garbage, holy fuck that face is cursed

and his coloring is sub par

the black and white art is fine

[manic latch]

It's Vladivostok

[tough quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737123827967983617/867587917604716544/image0-8.gif

i thought i was clear of double ijn/kms DRs

and now the fear seeps back in

[manic latch]

Lenin

[edgy linden]

well he improved a lot when he did schieffen

[tough quail]

i appreciate going for the special camo color scheme

[delicate beacon]

Project 1047

[manic latch]

Day 2038 of flying turrets

[tough quail]

dutch sorcery

[delicate beacon]

[manic latch]

Also Undef. Chriss says it was him who posted on alg

[delicate beacon]

Listen I only ever drew real ships before that so drawing rigging was hard (especially when the file is so large you wait a second after each brush)

[edgy linden]

i like his vladivostok so

[manic latch]

[edgy linden]

he did an awesome conde too

wonder if AL will ever do super ships

[tender monolith]

hope not

[tough quail]

probably

[edgy linden]

superships would be broken

[delicate beacon]

[tough quail]

power level is arbitrary in AL

[ivory ridge]

No superships because Italy doesnt have any yet

weegee pls

[tender monolith]

[delicate beacon]

They'd have to come from PR though

Since none are real

[manic latch]

Super PR

[manic latch]

Concept can work in a grind way

Like making all PR5 ships dev 30

Only then supership of pr5 unlocks

[delicate beacon]

That said, why do those fan kansen never include Dutch waifus

[alpine onyx]

For all the times I told him

Mattzo still uses wrong armor values for Bismarck

[spring briar]

shall I tell him?

[spring briar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/990180359180271736/tenor_1.gif

[ivory ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/uohhhh-cunny-gif-24323890

[manic latch]

Soyuz lily

[spring briar]

Russian naval forums be like:

• one guy that talks like a dude in the 1900s
• one authoritatian guy (usually boris/dimitri) telling everyone to re-take high school
• one guy misunderstanding something but starting a rant about the philosophy of wording and semantics
• a guy with direct access to the russian archives who posts everything, resolving the situation
• someone who rants about western imperialism
• царский

[chilly osprey]

lmao

[manic latch]

It's best when submarine vs carrier simps fight

[spring briar]

not even close

I've seen the wildest shit in pre-dreadnought discussions

[manic latch]

[spring briar]

@chilly osprey

[manic latch]

Soviets big man 💪
Italians puny man

[spring briar]

here's the semantics guy

blower fan - ventilatore aspiratore an
exhaust fan - ventilatore di estrazione
and there is even a blower fan - ventilatore di mandata

[desert agate]

wait hang on thats just ALO #history

[spring briar]

https://tenor.com/view/so-true-gif-24068595

[ivory ridge]

so true bestie

[spring briar]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-moment-social-interaction-be-like-social-interaction-meme-wall-meme-guy-talking-to-wall-gif-21768244

[manic latch]

Wish I filled Soyuz like that

[spring briar]

oy

[ivory ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/684721152739770371/980101958042013756/ezgif.com-gif-maker_7.gif

[chilly osprey]

Christ

You weren't exaggerating

[spring briar]

I wouldn't make a meme about it if it weren't true

I've seen worse but don't remember where

I think it was in a forum post about Marat or smth

[tough quail]

marat doesnt deserve this

[spring briar]

isn't this the T3 russian BB in wows?

[ivory ridge]

tfw the russians have a T3 BB but the italians dont get the original dreadnought design

[spring briar]

Izmail armor

[frigid karma]

I actually didn’t really like his schlieffen

You’d think as a BC she’d have less rigging tbh

His Venezia was nice though

[ivory ridge]

His what

[frigid karma]

He didn’t draw a ship named ‘what’ iirc

Do you have a link?

[ivory ridge]

i dont think he did a venezia

[frigid karma]

You know

The one with the pizza compartment

[ivory ridge]

not him

[frigid karma]

Wasn’t that the same guy

[ivory ridge]

no

[frigid karma]

Just checked

It’s the same guy

[ivory ridge]

well it's not on his fucking pixiv

[frigid karma]

I didn’t even know he had a pixiv

[ivory ridge]

?? that's not them?

what

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/16792743

[frigid karma]

Ohh that’s another guy

[edgy linden]

well tis the design of most IB ships now

[frigid karma]

[frigid karma]

Especially emden

[delicate beacon]

👀

Stronger Engine Dutch TBD

[maiden citrus]

[spring briar]

[frigid karma]

Plen

[maiden citrus]

and here we see the airplanis aeronauticus, being groomed by symbiotic lifeforms to remove parasites and dead skin

[manic latch]

One day they will be replaced by laser cleaners

I think this thing had 1 problem
Except the cost

Issues with pilot oxygen

Even blamed a F-22 crash for oxygen deprived pilot

"Root cause of the problem was due to a mix of shortcomings in the hardware of the pilot's life support gear"

[maiden citrus]

seems like a relatively easy fix

[manic latch]

I think it was fixed by adding automatic backup oxygen supply systems in 2013

[maiden citrus]

yeh

[manic latch]

Otherwise. It's an amazing plane

Shame it doesn't have F35 systems

[tough quail]

just add an extra pilot in the back in case the first one dies

[manic latch]

Hah double seat fifth gen? I think only China has such prototype irrc

With the J-20

Would loved to see twin seat F-22

[frigid karma]

No, you add the extra pilot so top gun 3 can be made

[manic latch]

From what I heard Topgun didn't used F-35 for that reason

It doesn't have twin seats and dogfights would look stupid with her

[frigid karma]

That, and the helmets are opaque

And navy wants the cockpit classified

Plus f35 job isn’t even to dogfight

It’s like telling a trained sniper to get into a boxing ring for rocky iii

[manic latch]

Exactly. Movie would be boring

B-2 could have done their job in 5 minutes

[frigid karma]

Not even that

Like

They have tomahawk barrage destroy the enemy airfield

Why not just

Aim it at the uranium thingy

[manic latch]

Yeah..

[tough quail]

who cares i got to see an F-14 and an Su-57 angrily gesticulate at each other

immensely based

[manic latch]

It's not Su-57

It's a Fifth generation fighter

Sukhoi doesn't exist

To be serious tho. Why call them fifth gen fighter

First movie at least called enemy Migs

Copyright i guess

[tough quail]

presumably weird licensing jank and because of [CURRENT CONFLICT]

[manic latch]

I guess that yeah

[tough quail]

either way it's cool ad fuck

[frigid karma]

Funniest scene in the whole film is that Mach 10 part though

[manic latch]

Yeah he would die irl with a crash like that

[frigid karma]

I’m pretty sure Tom cruise should have been sent to Guantanamo for crashing that 6826382 trillion dollar wunderwaffe

[tough quail]

i think thats the point

its literally a tool to say right off the bat

"this movie is stupid"

"dont take it seriously"\

[frigid karma]

[maiden citrus]

only background characters die to stuff like that

[manic latch]

Project was literally about the get cancelled for drones

So plane was going to rust in a corner anyway

[tough quail]

to be fair with the amount of like

[frigid karma]

I have to say though, unrealistic as it may be the canyon scene is a masterpiece

[tough quail]

obscenely stupid stunts tom cruise has done over his life

you could probably fire him directly out of one of iowa's guns and he'd probably somehow survive

[maiden citrus]

I have not seen this movie

[frigid karma]

Oh shit sry

[maiden citrus]

[surprising everyone]

[manic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/sukhoi-plane-cobra-maneuver-su27-sukhoi-su27-gif-20743994

[frigid karma]

I assumed you would’ve already

[tough quail]

spoilers:

its fucking sick

[manic latch]

This scene tho

[maiden citrus]

Idc about spoilers

in anything

just thought it was funny everyone has seen this movie but me

[frigid karma]

Why haven’t you yet

It’s great

[manic latch]

You aren't true American wtf

[maiden citrus]

working extra shifts to cover sick co workers

have not had much free time

[manic latch]

[tough quail]

the best way i can describe it is that like

it has a retired navy brick shoot down an su-57 and it doesn't piss me off

[maiden citrus]

[tough quail]

because it's the coolest shit ever

[desert agate]

[SU-57 slander]

[tough quail]

fuck off spon

[manic latch]

First kill is understandable
Second kill is pilot decides to suicide suddenly
Third kill was...marvel hero timing

[frigid karma]

I’m disappointed that Tom cruise didn’t eject out the cockpit then take down the su57 by shooting in the jet exhaust with a desert eagle

[manic latch]

Or the Hind

[tough quail]

tom cruiser shouldve started doing air combos to daze the hind like its mgr

[frigid karma]

Same timing as the heli getting shot down

[manic latch]

Exactly

Moment it fires

[frigid karma]

Or that guy who passed out waking up in the last few seconds

Shouldn’t the jet have an auto pull up system

Like

Iirc Stuka had that system

[maiden citrus]

cod moment where he ejects from his vehicle, takes out a sniper rifle from the nth dimension, snipes the other pilot with a headshot while his parachute opens, then glides back into his own plane via autopilot

[frigid karma]

That’s a rendezook

[manic latch]

That's BF

[tough quail]

thats battlefield doe

[desert agate]

my favourite part of top gun 2 was when maverick talked about how xenu brought all of humanity to earth on the DC-8

[frigid karma]

Cod doesn’t even have jets in multiplayer

[manic latch]

Wat

[maiden citrus]

sorry got my generic shooters mixed up

[frigid karma]

It’s ok

[desert agate]

tom cruise scientologist joke

[frigid karma]

Hollywood actor tries not to join a batshit religion or do drugs [literally impossible]

[maiden citrus]

I would have used tf2 but that's something that would canonly happen in tf2 so

[tough quail]

my favorite part was when the guy piloting the hind channeled the power of the lifestream to let the gunner cast [Meteor] on tom cruise

[frigid karma]

Personally, I think Tom cruise crashing his landing gear-less tomcat into nimitz’s shipgirl tits and instantly fucking dying is my fav part

[desert agate]

this wikipedia article is such a trip holy fuck

[maiden citrus]

I do need to get around to watching it, not a big movie watcher but it sounds fun and is vehicle related

[manic latch]

Ye

She movie star now

Would love to see Topgun 3 giving J-20 attention as enemy this time

[tough quail]

what about the scene where tom cruise had to flee to japan and got into a fist fight with kazuma kiryu

and then they became best friends and hijacked a foxhound in vladivostok to shoot down the north korean nukes

[desert agate]

i hope to god there is never a top gun 3

[frigid karma]

Well uh

[manic latch]

You have any idea the budget/profit topgun 2 made

[frigid karma]

Either China wouldn’t like it or US wouldn’t like it

[tough quail]

why

[desert agate]

top gun 2 was an exceptional reboot/sequel but a third would be just awful

they closed the narrative so well

[frigid karma]

I thought they hijacked the retrofitted KC Yamato with triple 510mm guns

[manic latch]

Well J-20 would be destroyed. Could make China market angry. It's a big market

[tough quail]

my man they made the og top gun in the middle of the 80s

[frigid karma]

And

[tough quail]

if the us didnt care about migs then i dont exactly think they're gonna care about J-20s now

[frigid karma]

They weren’t selling top gun movies in the ussr

No like

[tough quail]

they're gonna go WOWIE ZOWIE

PLON

[frigid karma]

If you have a movie with j-20 China will have to be a bad guy

[maiden citrus]

third movie is against aliens

solved

[frigid karma]

Brilliant maka

[desert agate]

TG 2 wasnt against russia so

[frigid karma]

We’re promoting you

[desert agate]

[maiden citrus]

the f35s and j20s must fight the aliens

[strong plank]

Also there’s the uhhhh

Taiwanese flag

[desert agate]

regardless this discussion is stupid

[strong plank]

That was removed from 2

[frigid karma]

No it wasn’t

[tough quail]

just go the usual cod/battlefield route and just say it's some rogue dipshits

[strong plank]

Wait it wasn’t?

[tough quail]

get the actual government on board for shitting on them too

[frigid karma]

I saw it

[strong plank]

Was it just the trailer then?

[frigid karma]

Yep

[maiden citrus]

good

[strong plank]

Oh fuck yea

[tough quail]

you can blow up chinese and russian shit and wank everyone at the same time

have the cake and eat it too

[maiden citrus]

have the dog

and heat it too

[frigid karma]

won’t the Mexicans find it offensive though

[strong plank]

There’s a cowboys vs aliens joke to be made here somewhere

[maiden citrus]

look I know those of the triple alliance are saved from a man who became the sun for the current age but aliens might be a strong term

[manic latch]

Topgun 2 enemy was just enemy with some Iran reference added on it

Since F-14

[maiden citrus]

true unde

[manic latch]

Exactly

Imagine the potential of US if they spend %20 of their gdp to military instead

Zumwalt would suddenly look cheap

[maiden citrus]

every single normal person: wow high tech military stuff is cool

some person on twitter: did you know, cringe?

[manic latch]

WHy NaSa LowEr BuDgET

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-nawh-no-way-fr-gif-22615915

[frigid karma]

We must give space force 4619747152 morbillion robux for rods from god

[maiden citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/f14-tomcat-gif-19848236

[manic latch]

Can you fund 7 Morbillion $ for FB-22 concept

Such wasted opportunity

[maiden citrus]

all you have to do to get money for anything is release a nevada skin

it goes straight from my bank account to you

[manic latch]

[tough quail]

turbo dorito

[maiden citrus]

azur lane on eu patches with tons of skins like

'we need another $100'

[strong plank]

maka crowdfunding a mod to retexture every ship as Nevada

[manic latch]

Ye like F-16XL

[maiden citrus]

'guys we've had low event profits, what should we do'

'release a washington skin'

'what will that do, this is an hms event?'

[maiden citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[manic latch]

I hate my gummy bear addiction

[maiden citrus]

I love gummies

[frigid karma]

I’m at a restaurant rn

[maiden citrus]

[manic latch]

That's the problem

[frigid karma]

Eating lunch at 4 in the afternoon

And uh

[maiden citrus]

mmm welches

[frigid karma]

So this place has 2 Wi-Fi’s

Restaurant staff and restaurant guest

I ask a guy for password to the latter and he says

“Yeah we don’t give out passwords for that wifi bc it slows it down”

Then why do you have that wifi in the first place

[maiden citrus]

see the event was so profitable that the current pass doesn't even lock an eu skin behind it

they didn't need my help

I think it's the first time too

they turned my hype for wash skin directly into profit and are sated for now

[ivory ridge]

Ah found it

[maiden citrus]

Indiana Jones is archaeology propaganda

[maiden citrus]

'did you think the plane was cool, you can drive one'

yeah how dare those demons

[spring briar]

Don’t look at her aft

[maiden citrus]

pretty bote

[ivory ridge]

A theater had the airforce

[delicate beacon]

She's missing a barrel

[ivory ridge]

"Who's gonna tell them?"

[manic latch]

[spring briar]

Soyuz had a theatre

Well

Should have had one

[ivory ridge]

[maiden citrus]

erie class had one

[manic latch]

[maiden citrus]

why the gallimimus class so pretty

[spring briar]

Weakest ships ever

[maiden citrus]

some of the best looking tiny cls

[spring briar]

[maiden citrus]

eries are pog

[spring briar]

They do look cute

[manic latch]

Old graph from 2018. But did Leo really did better than Thales?

[maiden citrus]

incredibly capable DEs before DEs were a thing

[spring briar]

Small botes with big personalities

[maiden citrus]

just lil baby cuties, with big bite

[spring briar]

Bismarck vs erie

[spiral cedar]

He's had the updated version out for a while now

https://i.redd.it/aas53mnur4g71.png

It's the one with the blue

[maiden citrus]

pretty indepth

[spring briar]

[maiden citrus]

also really shows how well protected sodak and rich are when you add those numbers up

[ivory ridge]

[maiden citrus]

ahead of the pack and fight for like 1 inch here or there in protection

[spring briar]

Yes but

[maiden citrus]

that is a thing to consider indeed

one must always consider acrs

[manic latch]

Ah

Still. Not bad for 30k employee difference

[ivory ridge]

I think in general Thales is responsible for much less in terms of diversity of products

[manic latch]

[ivory ridge]

You can probably guess which is which

[manic latch]

Yeah...

[spring briar]

Tennessee?

[maiden citrus]

correct class

it's nc in specific

[manic latch]

What if

[maiden citrus]

rewards with a baguette

[maiden citrus]

[spring briar]

You just made her slow

[maiden citrus]

she'll be fine

[manic latch]

isn't submission better than extinction?

[maiden citrus]

you just triggered my fight or flight response

unfortunately for you, I sacrificed flight long ago for additional fight capability

[spring briar]

Joffre of my phonecase
What should I do tomorrow

[manic latch]

Madlad didn't even removed her name

[spring briar]

Was a try-out

[frigid karma]

Cry that you used inferior Bremerton

[maiden citrus]

you should have a nice dinner with me

[tough quail]

if only brimp's design was nearly as dope as a sick spooky angel

[spring briar]

Hotdogs?

[maiden citrus]

yes

[spring briar]

[tough quail]

shaped like a friend

[maiden citrus]

I will take the dog, you take the best french bread

[spring briar]

Indeed

[maiden citrus]

we will combine them

[spring briar]

And we will share among all the friends here

[maiden citrus]

true

[maiden citrus]

also honestly this is really cute even if kinda questionable

[ivory ridge]

Colonize northern africa

[humble mulch]

declare war on the british
invade Moscow

[spring briar]

Questionable is not a word in the late 1800s

[humble mulch]

you have my swords
and rifles

[spring briar]

[strong plank]

re-annex New Orleans

[spring briar]

Not a bad idea but

New orleans is happy as it is rn

And I don’t want to disturb the tour guides in the french quarter

[maiden citrus]

we should share new orleans

[tough quail]

yeah im not sure about new orleans being happy atm

given protests about

certain things

[spring briar]

Franco american union?

The united west

[tough quail]

that and apparently there were four different shootings last night

[spring briar]

Superioria

[tough quail]

omegalul

[spring briar]

Bruuhh

[maiden citrus]

turns out when everyone is out doing stuff that stuff happens

[tough quail]

https://i.imgur.com/EvVX0Q2.png

[maiden citrus]

should we tell him about the Brussels protests

[spring briar]

Me sleepy

[maiden citrus]

sleep friend

[maiden citrus]

and take that with you

[spring briar]

Is so efficient tho

[tough quail]

..were there fatalities during the brussels protests?

[spring briar]

No

[tough quail]

when you try to punch down and end up hitting yourself in the knee

[maiden citrus]

when you try to inject politics into a discussion about protesting, when the exact opposite side is also protesting

[spring briar]

When you just want to talk about ships

[maiden citrus]

exactly

[tough quail]

[tough quail]

long

[tough quail]

my eyes bugged out and saw the pier as like

a line of people

and it spooked me

[spring briar]

Lol

[maiden citrus]

it's kan-sen waiting for a ride

in line

[spring briar]

Followers of jesus

[tough quail]

tfw you set sail and there's like eighty guys sprinting across the water to chase you down

[maiden citrus]

'I booked a room don't you run away from me'

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/goober-cat-swim-gif-25288340

[maiden citrus]

mmm, chimken

I ate a little before work but still hungry since it's been a while

the rough life

[spring briar]

Imma head off tonight

Cya

[tough quail]

farewell friend

[spring briar]

I leave you with modernized danton

Take care of her

[maiden citrus]

I will do my best

[humble mulch]

Nice ass

[eternal veldt]

But have you really seen a nice ass?

[frigid karma]

Go on silver

[maiden citrus]

oh my

[silver crest]

when napoleon 3 seized power and proclaimed himself as the emperor, how did the public view him?

did the public want another bonaparte in power?

[frigid karma]

Silver that's straight up porn

allow me to contribute

[maiden citrus]

look at the size of that butt

[silver crest]

touch the butt

👉 🍑

[dapper parcel]

look at that hole

[fierce sparrow]

[eternal veldt]

You've got a hole in your l-

[pallid grove]

I just watched a video on the USS Barb, and uh... when are we getting the first UR submarine?

The only ~~sub ~~ ship to sink a f***ing train.

[eternal veldt]

Silversides' crew blew up a hotel toilet.

Checkmate.

[pallid grove]

I need this story now.

[silver crest]

you guys talking about 2d or irl ship butts?

[eternal veldt]

They were making illegal alcohol while staying at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel during shore leave.

The still exploded, wrecking the toilet bowl and flooding the whole bathroom.

[silver crest]

no

[eternal veldt]

No persecution, but likely a hefty bill.

[silver crest]

no UR sub

[pallid grove]

That's not really the same thing. They were also the only US servicemen to invade the Japanese mainland

Making hooch is standard for grunts

[eternal veldt]

Was more a joke, but I think there are a lot of wild stories for subs in general. Was it barb's torpedo that broached and wrecked the train?

[pallid grove]

It wasn't a torpedo, they sent a crew out to the tracks and used a homemade pressure sensor on a scuttling charge. It sent the train 200 feet into the air before falling into the ocean.

They also started modern submarine warfare when they decided to ram other boats, and had a rocket launcher installed so they could do shore bombardments.

[eternal veldt]

Ah, it was bowfin.

Once in a good position, the Captain ordered three torpedoes shot at the moored vessels in the landing. The first torpedo overshot and exploded on the beach. The second torpedo hit a vessel on the port side and completely tore it apart. The third torpedo was not observed due to a loss of depth control. Bowfin quickly moved into the second planned position to fire three more torpedoes. Each one ran true to its calculated course and hit their targets. Debris was thrown all over and high into the air from the explosions. The target was moored at the pier, and the pier itself, the crane and a bus were destroyed from the attack. CDR Corbus had planned on hitting the pier and everything on it, and to his excitement, that was exactly what happened! An examination of Bowfin’s battleflag shows a crane, a bus and a pier, and this the story behind it.

Blew up a bus with a torpedo.

[pallid grove]

Nice.

I still maintain that giving flight lessons to a train is better, but that's not bad.

[eternal veldt]

and if we really want UR, personally would like none other than Venturer

But we know Manjuu thinks British subs don't exist

There is also another incident with Bergall, crippled after fucking with Myoko and had to travel 2000 miles home without diving

[strong plank]

I was looking at pics of Joffre's design earlier

I like how it looks different from its contemporaries like the essexes and illustriouses

a lot more rounded in places

[eternal veldt]

You mean the flight deck?

It's actually not that rare, Lexington's flight deck was pretty round before her big refits

same for Furious and Hermes

Oops, missed the word contemporary. Then yes.

[maiden citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/hampter-soft-round-gif-24743996

[tough quail]

fantastic content

[strong plank]

Joffre's is also more offset from the drawings I've seen

[eternal veldt]

Remember, Taihou's offset too

[alpine onyx]

I recall a different graphic he post well after that which still had the wrong values, lemme dig

Oh Discord you stupid...

[alpine onyx]

Replying to this

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/uwx7co/on_this_day_1941_the_battle_of_the_denmark_strait/

Zis one

[spiral cedar]

Ah

[pure creek]

Does someone have any historic key data on Musashi that could be used on a potential design of hers? So far I have that she thick and was at some point appointed as the flagship of the combined fleet and was trained as such and was also constantly being upgraded in equipment unlike her sister and of course her demise in the battle of Leyte gulf. Anything else?

[alpine onyx]

I can offer some details on her machinery

[pure creek]

Is it more than the simple data on her equipment?

[alpine onyx]

looks a bit like that

[pure creek]

Seems like nice info but I doubt it would have any relevancy in drawing a design of hers

[alpine onyx]

would a detailed assessment of the damage she took during Leyte be more relevant?

[junior trench]

give her an inferiority complex and imposter syndrome

[pure creek]

Maybe.

[pure creek]

Seems like a nice idea tbh

[alpine onyx]

page 21 in Adobe, page 16 if you look at the paper

[spring briar]

Shortening the barrels helped a ton

[maiden citrus]

[eternal veldt]

@pure creek I take it you want the schematics of the vessel?

[eternal veldt]

And that is strictly false, both vessels constantly received a stream of upgrades throughout their years; Yamato received even more anti aircraft guns than Musashi during her final operation at Ten-Go.

[spring briar]

almost done now

added the salvo clock, crane supports and the correct mast arrangement

[delicate beacon]

Richie, I has Dinosaur chemistry question

Where did all the extra oxygen back in the day come from?

[spring briar]

plants

[delicate beacon]

i.e. Large amounts of water and carbondioxide were converted into plants (carbonhydroxides) and oxygen?

[spring briar]

yes

[dapper parcel]

It's heavily debated because the absolute amount of oxygen must be higher back then

[spring briar]

it's also a result of the geology of the time

[spring briar]

seriously

[dapper parcel]

Where the "excess" oxygen went is still not exactly clear
easiest explanation is calcium carbonate, but still

[cinder escarp]

So does the Scharnhorst

[alpine onyx]

Drach is primary source for information

[spring briar]

CaCO3 -> CaO + CO2
CO2 -> C + O2

[alpine onyx]

[spring briar]

so increased calcination and photosynthesis

[delicate beacon]

Time to update wikis with Drach

[spring briar]

this must've been a very gradual process though

otherwise you create a greenhouse effect

[dapper parcel]

Drach is decent when dealing with operational history
but, damn, I almost always facepalm everytime he talk about engineering

[eternal veldt]

While you were spending your time discussing your favourite waifu and cooming over their art,
I studied the Drydock; Breathed in it; Every single piece of opinion, integrated into my skills.
And now the youtube comments beckons me, and you dare to oppose?

[alpine onyx]

It makes for an easy time arguing with them tho, because you'll always know where they got their nonsense from

[eternal veldt]

Honestly, it's a bit of a headache now that everyone takes his words as gospel

[alpine onyx]

And then I can have the appropriate primary source as counter

[delicate beacon]

My secondary source beats your primary because 2 > 1

[eternal veldt]

Problem: You're arguing on Wikipedia

Now get out of here with your original research and sources that need "interpreting"

[delicate beacon]

Just write your own book.

[alpine onyx]

Also haven't shared it here yet, but his justification for saying that Bismarck had vulnerable cables (because no armor around the ones running to the spotting top, not even splinterproofing) is false

The cables running to the forward tower position shall be protected to the same degree as on the Battleships D and E within a dedicated splinter-proof tunnel which is to run to the uppermost level of the tower. The tunnel is to be made out of 12mm thick Wh n/A material.

[eternal veldt]

you'd need to find a publisher though

[humble mulch]

Can't you publish it yourself

Or use like wattpad

Ao3

[eternal veldt]

War diaries? Or from Koop or someone else?

[humble mulch]

Be like those model guys and just put it on a weird form website

[eternal veldt]

tea, that makes you as credible as the combat reformers

[delicate beacon]

Right now my Publisher is secretprojects

[eternal veldt]

[alpine onyx]

Building instructions for Bismarcl

[humble mulch]

It's a start tho

[eternal veldt]

Any RM inventory number?

[delicate beacon]

Wiki doesn't care

[humble mulch]

Especially if you're actually citing your shit in the open

[dapper parcel]

Wikipedia's no primary source policy was partly to counter dishonest first party, which is very common in biographies, politics, or even scientific papers
On the other hand, it does create a very frustrating situation when the information is obvious

[alpine onyx]

I uploaded the full thing to Kingpin's library

Bauvorschriften für die Schiffskörper [...]

Something like that

[eternal veldt]

I'll take a look. Thanks.

[eternal veldt]

Sure, but then people will start coming around and questioning your book, whether it is peer reviewed, etc.

You don't want a reputation as bad as David Irving's

[humble mulch]

We are peers

[eternal veldt]

[humble mulch]

Idk who that is either

[delicate beacon]

🍐

[eternal veldt]

Irving?

Holocaust denier

[humble mulch]

Is that the crocodile hunter?

oh

[eternal veldt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving

Lots of revisionist work

[humble mulch]

Looks like a nazi

[spiral cedar]

Irwin

[humble mulch]

Irwin is a G so it's a honest mistake

[spring briar]

Among other things:

1. He's responsible for almost all of the myths about Dresden

2. He claimed Hitler was actually the biggest friend the Jews had in Europe and that he actively attempted to stop the Holocaust
   Telling Lies about Hitler was Evans explaining how he came to the conclusions he did, refuting Irving's arguments and explaining how the historian should act and work.
   A transcript of the trial is available online and its really good reading.
   But I'll give you Evan's closing remarks:
   "Irving has done all of these things from the very beginning of his career. Not one of his books, speeches or articles, not one paragraph, not one sentence in any of them, can be taken on trust as an accurate representation of its historical subject. All of them are completely worthless as history, because Irving cannot be trusted anywhere, in any of them, to give a reliable account of what he is talking or writing about.

It may seem an absurd semantic dispute to deny the appellation of 'historian' to someone who has written two dozen books or more about historical subjects. But if we mean by historian someone who is concerned to discover the truth about the past, and to give as accurate a representation of it as possible, then Irving is not a historian. Those in the know, indeed, are accustomed to avoid the term altogether when referring to him and use some kind of circumlocution such as 'historical writer' instead.

Irving is essentially an ideologue who uses history for his own political purposes; he is not primarily concerned with discovering and interpreting what happened in the past, he is concerned merely to give a selective and tendentious account of it in order to further his own ideological ends in the present.

The true historian's primary concern, however, is with the past. That is why, in the end, Irving is not a historian."
So yeah; Evans went for the throat by not only saying he wasn't a historian but also a Nazi

[dapper parcel]

I mean, didn't someone create a whole networks of publishing company just to publish some shit

[eternal veldt]

laughs in my Uni having multiple Irving books

[spring briar]

https://www.hdot.org/

his trial

[delicate beacon]

Sirene

[eternal veldt]

itadakimasu https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/760331443560906773/IMG_20200929_104511.jpg

[delicate beacon]

You should quote games like WarThunder and World of Warships as secondary sources

[desert agate]

Tea...

[delicate beacon]

Hunter is a big word for someone that hugs them

[humble mulch]

Hit
Please understand due to work I only use people's last names so I 100% ignored the David and only read Irwing, and the closest thing I know of to that soley off name is Steve Irwin and his son

[eternal veldt]

Just remember to get your alarms blaring if the name "Irving" is used

[humble mulch]

Also cause I'm a weeb

[desert agate]

Wait you actually remembered Irwin has a son?

[humble mulch]

Yes

[desert agate]

Most people only care about his daughter

[eternal veldt]

Not sure if you remember, tea

[humble mulch]

I worked like one of the biggest zoos in the world, kinda a funny role model I guess

[eternal veldt]

There's a guy going on saying Irving's work is acceptable and that everyone else's work can be discarded because they're brainwashed

[humble mulch]

Also he has a daughter?

[eternal veldt]

has a roon pfp, of course

[desert agate]

Yeah

She's a solid B list celebrity in Australia

[humble mulch]

Sliver if they enter this channel I'm hitting them with trolling

I do not play holocaust games

[desert agate]

Mostly because she's hot and people gotta simp

[humble mulch]

Understandable

[eternal veldt]

tea, the rules are written bright as day now, so there shouldn't be any concern

[dapper parcel]

I mean, it sometimes fun to see how a particular issue is viewed through a completely different viewpoint

[eternal veldt]

and if anything...I don't think the whole channel is going to greet them politely if such takes do happen

[humble mulch]

OH WAIT FUCK HIT I DO KNOW HER

[desert agate]

But Bindi has also historically been way more involved in Australia zoo than Rob, although she's taken a step out of the limelight since she got married

[humble mulch]

She had her own show with her dad

I just thought she was a random child actor

[desert agate]

Yeah

No that's his daughter lmao

[humble mulch]

Holy fuck I watched entire fucking show too

[desert agate]

She's had a few TV shows

She ran a game show back in the day as well

Kinda like Ninja Warrior but with kids

[eternal veldt]

Ard, it goes deeper than that

I'll just leave this here...

https://imgur.com/a/iKSi3Fk and this absolute trainwreck.

[desert agate]

Rob... literally never hear about Rob these days, or even back in the day

He makes an occasional appearance on morning TV and shit ig

[humble mulch]

[desert agate]

But otherwise he's just... there I guess

News barely gives a shit

[humble mulch]

I've seen a few tabloids on him recently

Something about turning another Zoo keeper down very nicely

[desert agate]

Lmao guess he's been busy lately

[humble mulch]

Thanks facebook

[desert agate]

I think since Bindi got married, Rob's kinda taken over pr for the zoo

Last time I saw him he did that standard thing of brining a snake into morning TV and giving Kochie a heart attack

[spiral cedar]

[eternal veldt]

35 knots??

[spiral cedar]

And 29 knot Yammy

[eternal veldt]

Also, why run away

just call Mitscher to do his thing

This comment made by the Essex gang

[dapper parcel]

IDK man, I've been desensitized by internet that every time I stumble upon such guy I'll simply assume them just trolling. The shallow and confrontational way of engagement feels way too obvious.

[eternal veldt]

That's what most of us thought.

I think we'd be willing to listen if a well-constructed argument is thrown out, inaccurate or different notwithstanding.

[spiral cedar]

Ah yes, the naval tactic of playing chicken until your enemy runs out of fuel and gets stranded at sea

[spring briar]

the enemy must be a bunch of 4 year olds

[eternal veldt]

it's fine, just tell these babies to come and help you, amirite

[spring briar]

fixed the ss some more

and added the french flag

[manic latch]

Average Roon fan

[delicate beacon]

I love how armchairers always assume perfect scouting as if fog of war doesn't exist; or think ship combat is two ships sailing in a straight line one running and one chasing.

[maiden citrus]

dude just fire at 40km out

[eternal veldt]

Well... It used to be like that, age of sail, maybe

[spring briar]

[eternal veldt]

Shannon vs Chesapeake is still a classic

[maiden citrus]

but yeah sailing distance is an interesting one

[eternal veldt]

Except now everyone sails with an escort

[maiden citrus]

like ah yes let me just sail my ship in battle for

uh

1,000 hours

until the other guy runs out of gas

wrecked pleb

the true one on one

[eternal veldt]

Technically possible, if you need it, might as well have a tanker top you off

Actually, one point Ive been wondering

[maiden citrus]

matters in a campaign, not a one on one

[dapper parcel]

Imagine assuming 100% machinery reliability and/or that their machinery will break down before yours

[eternal veldt]

If I recall, the Brits couldnt do parallel refuelling during WW2

I think it was only the US, actually?

[spiral cedar]

They did from the bow/stern right

[maiden citrus]

I seem to recall that too

[eternal veldt]

Why such case?

[maiden citrus]

yeah

[alpine onyx]

Hey if that is a valid strategy then Bisko can enjoy wrecking Yamato as well

[manic latch]

I really love Soviet BB concept as defensive BBs. Likely inspired heavily from Italians. They don't have great ranges since their fuel storage is small. Because they wouldn't sail too far or too long away from ports

[alpine onyx]

Three month solo operation and 12,500nm cruising range go

[eternal veldt]

Bismarck lures Yamato around Cape Horn

Yamato capsizes

Bismarck ez win

[manic latch]

Yamato no fuel would be awkward

[alpine onyx]

Also Silver

Germans also used side by side refueling

I had a pic somewhere of them doing that, lemme dig

[eternal veldt]

I dont recall which navies specifically had it

I only remember the Brits were stupefied the US could do that

[delicate beacon]

Oh hey

new Drach video

🍿

[alpine onyx]

Here we go, Nürnberg refuelling a Type 1923 torpedoboat

[dapper parcel]

Tbf anyone who ever handle a ship would know that controlling lateral position is much easier than longitudinal

[alpine onyx]

But the Germans also used in-line refuelling a fair bit, so maybe it's only certain combinations doing the side by side

[delicate beacon]

Drach doesn't know about Isaac Sweers and ZH-1

[manic latch]

I wonder if Edinburgh could have refueled Gremyashchy. So Gremyashchy wouldn't be forced to leave her for lack of fuel

[delicate beacon]

Would coal fired large warships have been a viable option for Italy in WW2?

[spring briar]

Bretagne WIP and Brennus

[delicate beacon]

Where Richie

[spiral cedar]

The first refueling of destroyers was conducted on May 10 – in heavy seas – from the battleships and carriers. The fuel-line astern method proved slow going. The Royal Navy was at this point nowhere near as proficient at underway replenishment as their US counterparts.

It’s something the officers of USS Saratoga noted – and relayed back to Admiral King.

From armouredcarriers

1944

[eternal veldt]

My guess is that the RN had enough locations enough around the world that underway replenishment was hardly necessary

Compared to the US dragging across the vast, empty Pacific

The performance of Richelieu during this sortie was particularly impressive in one respect. Despite refuelling two destroyers at the halfway point of the outward passage and a third during the return, she entered Trincomalee with half her fuel remaining, whereas the British Queen Elizabeth and Valiant were reduced to 20 per cent of their capacity. The British were also impressed with Richelieu’s ability to conduct alongside replenishment, American-style, which was significantly faster than the traditional over-the-stern method employed by the British ships.

[maiden citrus]

considering rich chomps gas, yeh

[alpine onyx]

British BBs and fuel capacity, name a more iconic duo

[maiden citrus]

british bbs and trials at almost no capacity

[spring briar]

Rich keeps ticking the good boxes

[manic latch]

A Soviet Sverdlov class cruiser refuels a Riga class ocean escort during the 1960s.

Question

Why Sherman had Stabilizer

While most other tanks of same time didnt

[junior trench]

because US tank doctrine was, and is, based upon fire and maneuver to the extreme

[eager dove]

because US tank doctrine was, and is, based

Fixed

[spring briar]

no?

[junior trench]

the MG spam existed because an MG makes up for the lacking accuracy while on the move with the amount of shit being thrown

[dapper parcel]

It can be simply why wouldn't you put a stabilizer if

• you have the technology
• you can afford it
• it does not impede functionality
• it does not go against doctrine/tactics
• it does not strain the logistic

[fierce sparrow]

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/t-vi-100/

[delicate beacon]

Ah yes, 550mm belt

[manic latch]

Makes sense

Lot of captured tigers

But not enough 88mm shells for them

So if you put your own gun. You will solve the ammo

[delicate beacon]

That's one beefy minelayer

[ivory ridge]

https://twitter.com/CiarliniKoerner/status/1541056917417725953?t=TgJkRqSAlSLKdvnCdg1QFQ&s=19

Ammiraglio Nerd (@CiarliniKoerner)

A sequence from a film shot in the early 1920s (the archival source says the film was completed in 1924) aboard the Italian battleship Giulio Cesare, showing her 305 mm turrets.

#RegiaMarina #navalguns #ContediCavourclass #battleships

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 26, 2022, 1:52 PM

Bote

[manic latch]

https://patrimonio.archivioluce.com/luce-web/detail/IL3000000083/1/marina-militare-italiana.html?startPage=0

Luce archive is like deepweb for Italian warship

May found treasures there

[tough quail]

stabilizer tech wasn't really matured at all yet

the sherman one is kind of a vague suggestion of stabilization

[junior trench]

kind of?

Trials of the armament yielded interesting results. The hull machine gun had no sights, as per American tradition. The assistant driver fired at a 2 by 2 meter target from 100 meters, aiming with tracers and observing through his periscope. 86 bullets hit the target out of 100. The coaxial machine gun scored 85 hits out of 100 in the same conditions. Trials of the 75 mm M3 gun showed that the peak rate of fire is 20 RPM. The main gun was also fired on the move, with and without the stabilizer. Thanks to the stabilizer and good crew placement, the gunner hit his target 47% of the time with a rate of fire of 3.87 RPM. With the stabilizer turned on, the rate of fire increased to 5.17 RPM and the accuracy rose to 87%. The hydraulic turret traverse mechanism was also rated highly.

http://www.tankarchives.ca/2020/12/the-best-of-varangians.html

[dapper parcel]

Relieving the gunner from the need to re-acquire the targets after every shoot is already big enough improvement

[junior trench]

speed isn't indicated, but it can be assumed that when operating within the limits, then the stabilizer must be pretty damn stable

there's some weird wording there that makes me think they're talking about the stabilized gunsight and the stabilizer for the gun separately

but not really specifying

[tough quail]

i was wondering how the fuck it was more accurate than the m60s stabilizer tests until i realized it was at

[junior trench]

as stabilized sights were pretty normal

[tough quail]

1/20th of the range

yeah okay that makes sense

afaik it works pretty well when you're rolling around at infantry speed it just kind of eats shit faster than that

which is still better than anyone else is gonna be doing at the time

[junior trench]

87% at a 2x2m target at 100 meters still means you could be on the move in combat and successfully pulp some jugend with a panzerfaust and more bravery than brains

with HE

[tough quail]

yeap

[junior trench]

at pretty decent range

[tough quail]

what's more weird to me is why the US just kind of

stopped bothering after that

[junior trench]

AGF in Europe had an obsession with 70 rounds

[tough quail]

and just didnt get proper two plane stabilizers until like the 70s

[junior trench]

which T25 w/ stabilizer didn't achieve

[tough quail]

ohh

[junior trench]

and things went from there

[tough quail]

alright, there you go

just put a little hinge on the shells to let them fold in half

for better stowage

🧠

[dapper parcel]

Stabilizing the train would also need pretty large (or fast) servomotor, which quite hard to come by at that time

without compromising the above mentioned ammo capacity that is

[junior trench]

interestingly from the same article

In the spring of 1943 it also turned out that the T-34's gun couldn't penetrate the side of the Tiger tank, while the 75 mm M3 gun could penetrate it from 400-650 meters.

which I guess isn't too surprising when the projectile for the T-34 is a blunt (read: flat) nosed projectile with a windscreen smacking into a pretty thick plate

so if it can't force a plug it just

totally fails

[tough quail]

i like that it doesnt specify which gun or the ammo used by either

[manic latch]

How about APCR

[manic latch]

1943, the thick armor of the new German Tiger and Panther tanks had rendered the F-34 gun obsolete, and experiments were conducted to find a replacement. The better-penetrating 57 mm ZiS-2 high velocity antitank gun was installed on some T-34/57 tanks, but the smaller-bored gun couldn't fire an adequate high explosive round for general use

In the end, the F-34 was replaced by the D-5T and ZiS-S-53 85 mm calibre guns on the T-34-85 tank

[spring briar]

I can't post images ffs

[junior trench]

https://www.tankarchives.ca/2020/01/how-to-kill-tiger.html

Turret and upper hull side:
45 mm model 1937 gun with a subcaliber shot from 200 meters.
45 mm model 1942 gun with a subcaliber shot from 400 meters.
57 mm gun with an armour piercing shell from 1000 meters.
76 mm gun with a subcaliber shot from 400 meters.
76 mm AA gun with an armour piercing shell from 300 meters.
85 mm AA gun with an armour piercing shell from 1500 meters.
122 mm gun with an armour piercing shell from over 1500 meters.

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[junior trench]

400 meters with APCR to M61 APCBC's/M72 AP's 450-600

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I wonder about that 150m jump between

[tough quail]

not bad, not bad

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Why is that

[tough quail]

jank early soviet APCR

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Bitch I am speaking of m61

[junior trench]

http://www.tankarchives.ca/2013/03/sherman-vs-tiger.html

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Why it's between 450-600

[junior trench]

Side, shell type M-72, distance 625 m. Result: penetration, minor spalling on entrance and exit.
Side: shell type M-72, distance 625 m. Result: same as above.
Turret: shell type M-61, distance 650 m. Result: dent 50 mm deep, 140 mm diameter. Penetration of the turret platform.
Turret: shell type M-61, distance 650. Result: dent 40mm deep, 120mm diameter.
Side: shell type M-61, distance 650. Result: Penetration. Shell knocked out a cork-like section of armour.
Side: shell type M-61, distance 650. Result: same as above.```

because that's the range of ranges recorded and apparently the author just listed that rather than the max range

even though both M72 AP and M61 APCBC did the same

which is kind of

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[junior trench]

the 76mm APCR doing the same as the 45mm APCR is pretty bruh

though apparently HE-derping the Tiger was doctrinally noted

Front:
76 mm gun with a subcaliber shot from point-blank range.
85 mm AA gun with an armour piercing shell from 1000 meters.
122 mm gun with an armour piercing shell from 1500 meters.
76 and higher HE-fragmentation shells can break through the roof.

[tough quail]

absolutely blessed

[spring briar]

[junior trench]

of course this also seems to be a case of a Tiger where the armor is actually performing properly

https://youtu.be/BelIlcdse8E?t=310

kind of annoyed that he only relayed it via video

but meh

tl;dw being

57mm (6-pdr) against the test tiger scored a pen against the ~80mm armor at a range where only ~63mm of British armor was penetrated

basically German armor quality was going down the shitter long before the years people think

just less consistently

[frigid karma]

simple

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[tender monolith]

still shorter than the L/100

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[edgy linden]

okay so pretty much the current tech in the game is up to the 1974's