history

[runic prairie]

Lol. They think Japan’s problem was airframes.

[frigid karma]

end of story

[wintry moat]

Germany and Japan have a similar problem

[desert agate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-class_battleship

[frigid karma]

picking fights with bigger people

[autumn sorrel]

Do u guys want to know why so many Nguyen in Vietnam?

[wintry moat]

Thank you

I knew it existed

[spring briar]

Existing

[maiden citrus]

you probably could have sent every plane germany produced in that year to japan and they still couldn't win a battle even if all those planes had pilots

[shut wren]

If a APFSDS round is fired and found in good condition can it be rearmed with another sabot

[spring briar]

No

[autumn sorrel]

No

[wintry moat]

I was gonna say by the time their production was able to keep up, they were outta pilots to fly them

[desert agate]

because a king decided everyone in the country should be called nguyen a few centuries ago

[shut wren]

[maiden citrus]

like nya

[grave ravine]

When APFSDS rounds hit things they experience substantial deformation

[shut wren]

What are the main types of rounds for tanks

[spring briar]

Use google

[grave ravine]

You are not going to find an APFSDS dart in good condition after firing it

[shut wren]

Like if it’s found in perfect almost perfect condition

[frigid karma]

Should I ping tea for this

this is getting

like

excessive

[grave ravine]

Literally impossible

[shut wren]

[spring briar]

Feel free qwerty

[autumn sorrel]

That's more like favor the Nguyen Royal house bestowed but it actually dated back to Chen dynasty in the 13th Century

[spring briar]

I’m starting to get annoyed too

[runic prairie]

Chinese Divest is getting you.

[grave ravine]

I mean the dart stops when it hits something, and when it does its not going to be in good shape

[frigid karma]

@humble mulch MSS over here is trolling

[wintry moat]

You have a hard object going very very fast

It's gonna break

[autumn sorrel]

Have I ever annoy you like MMS does?

[frigid karma]

nah giang you good

[spring briar]

You ok

[shut wren]

[autumn sorrel]

[grave ravine]

APFSDS rounds actually experience fluid like dynamics as they penetrate armor

[spring briar]

Not perfect but ok

[wintry moat]

Could you explain?

I dont quite follow

[runic prairie]

At extreme forces solids act like fluids.

[wintry moat]

Ah

[grave ravine]

They go so fast and experience such extreme forces that they act similar to liquids

[wintry moat]

Weird

[runic prairie]

Remember everything is a spring.

[wintry moat]

so like how sim tests show them?

I've seen a good few of those

[grave ravine]

yeah basically

[wintry moat]

How it just melts and squishes

[spring briar]

It doesn’t melt
It simply corrodes away

[grave ravine]

Like the way NERA composites actually work is by basically allowing it to splash outwards through the armor

rather than punching straight through

[runic prairie]

That’s more for HEAT

[grave ravine]

It doesn't actually melt, its just under such extreme forces that the forces holding the metal together are negligible

[spring briar]

Creating high temperatures sure, but it’s pretty much like grinding steel with a grinder but at extremely high velocities

[grave ravine]

HEAT jets and APFSDS darts actually act quite similar as they penetrate armor

[wintry moat]

I couldn't think of the right word there

[frigid karma]

here's a phase diagram

[wintry moat]

But I understand what your putting down

[frigid karma]

you can see w/ higher pressure solids began to act like liquids

[autumn sorrel]

Well, continue with why so many Nguyen, when the Chen clan usurped the Lee dynasty, they start killing Lee clan members, problem is, there are too much of them, so to consolidate their new rule, they choose to be "lenient". All surviving Lee that haven't run to China or Korea yet are allowed to live, provide that they change their name to Nguyen, it become a tradition when your house doing something wrong, get exile or something like that, you change your name to Nguyen. And then a Nguyen Clan take power so everyone are Nguyen now.

[frigid karma]

that's..odd

so everyone who does something wrong gets their name changed to nguyen?

like as a tradition

[tough quail]

i like the idea of saving japan by sending them worse german planes

[autumn sorrel]

More like the big clan and when the Emperor want you dead but don't want to deal with the trouble of going to that length

[spring briar]

Here king, watch this and you’ll understand

[wintry moat]

Thanks guys for explaining

[runic prairie]

Not really, that applies to the physical state of a material, not necessarily its performance.

The distinction has to do with the kind of bonds the molecules/atoms form with each other.

Under extreme forces the bonds that hold a solid together are easily overcome, meaning it acts like a liquid, which only has very weak bonds.

[autumn sorrel]

I legit have a friend whose family are descendant of the Chen clan but his Family name are Nguyen, dude's family only dare to change the name back during the French colonial rule

[shut wren]

How did the German naming system work?

Like Bf-109E and such

[spring briar]

At the point of impact, the material of the dart and the armor create such pressure that large sections of the materials start shearing off extremely fast, this creates high temperatures and causes even more shearing and weakening of the armor. Since the dart is much harder and denser than the armor it hits, it will erode slower than the armor, thus penetrating

[autumn sorrel]

For plane, it will be the first letter of the Manufacturer name

[shut wren]

No like with the letter after the variant

Like E and A

[autumn sorrel]

Just Variant

[shut wren]

[autumn sorrel]

You got A to Z variant and you also get sub variant with number behind the alphabet

Ah, the German, every little tweak or another screw added will become a new variant

[shut wren]

[manic latch]

@tough quail Pizza Mig-21

[shut wren]

[tough quail]

based?

[spring briar]

Chineser 105 apfsds @wintry moat here you can see the energy of an apfsds impact.

Idk why the music

Cope

[manic latch]

MiG-21I performed its maiden flight. The fighter was a testbed for shape of Tu-144 (supersonic passenger a/c) wings

[tough quail]

neat!

[shut wren]

Holy shit

But why did they use the old shit

[manic latch]

Physics apply same to old things

[wintry moat]

Back in 2020, in Atlanta a guy was fighting the HOA over his Sherman tank

Over parking it right next to the curb

[shut wren]

[spring briar]

@manic latch

[manic latch]

[tough quail]

real

[wintry moat]

Hauling ass

[manic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ссср-gif-21034412

[runic prairie]

To be more specific in liquids Intermolecular forces (van der Waals, hydrogen bonding, dipole-dipole) are predominant and fairly weak whereas solids, specifically crystal structures (as some solids do utilize these intermolecular forces and are fairly weak) forces more reminiscent of intramolecular (ie: covalent, ionic, and metallic bonds) forces, hold it together. These are far, far stronger and constitute more ordered structures.

[shut wren]

Nah it’s just coal powered we’re poor

[tough quail]

sounds about right

[manic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/m60t-turkish-tank-syria-desert-gif-23298789

When you are suffering from weight

[tough quail]

boing

[shut wren]

It’s called being fat

[wintry moat]

Or overturned brakes

[ivory ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/975883329771552781/1095909212598579322/T-59_back_in_the_days_albanian.mp4

[tough quail]

i think any tanks suspension is gonna bottom out like that from a fall that steep

[autumn sorrel]

IDF Magach?

[tight notch]

Red and Black chest

[ivory ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3MefF-ZWA

[autumn sorrel]

Why do all Chinese military tiktok using pop music

I see the PotC theme song coming up the most

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7vnLHR3mw

[shut wren]

We’re idiots

[tight notch]

💪🇦🇱

[tough quail]

it helps distract from how goofy their tanks are

[shut wren]

[wintry moat]

I was gonna say tik tac trends

[spring briar]

@manic latch @tough quail

has AP cap
shatters

[runic prairie]

Skill issue

[tough quail]

sad trombone

[shut wren]

[spring briar]

HRONSE

[shut wren]

[spring briar]

HROONS

[shut wren]

[spring briar]

Get trounced

[humble mulch]

what

[shut wren]

I was genuinely curious

[manic latch]

There is no way MSS

Some stuff you ask for is Google search level

[shut wren]

I was in class

Too risky to Google search

[autumn sorrel]

You're using discord

[humble mulch]

i cant ban people for being dumb

[subtle prawn]

I got away with being on my phone almost everyday when I was in school not too long ago

[shut wren]

I can hid that easier

[wintry moat]

What

[shut wren]

[wintry moat]

Your still on your phone

[humble mulch]

dog use fucking

firefox

[shut wren]

Not class time anymore

[humble mulch]

or some other search engine

like you are in school

[shut wren]

[humble mulch]

you have a brain

[wintry moat]

I'm so glad I'm outta high school

[shut wren]

[humble mulch]

use said brain

fuck put google on dark mode

[spring briar]

Or like

Follow class

[humble mulch]

that as well

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

[shut wren]

Got it

[wintry moat]

If I may ask

What class?

[manic latch]

[wintry moat]

I got shoved into Agriculture

So

[humble mulch]

probably HS/ an variant

[wintry moat]

I didn't do shit

And still passed it

[shut wren]

Algebra 1

[autumn sorrel]

Ah, math

[wintry moat]

Rip

[humble mulch]

nah

[autumn sorrel]

I fucking hate Algebra

[humble mulch]

math is a class you shouldnt skip

[wintry moat]

understandable, may God have mercy in your soul

[humble mulch]

or fuck around in

[wintry moat]

I hated Algebra with a seething passion

[humble mulch]

it can teach critical thinking skill

[wintry moat]

It wasn't the teacher, I'm just a brick when it comes to any higher maths

[humble mulch]

Algebra aint that bad

[spring briar]

@manic latch

[humble mulch]

yeah you arent really gonna use it a lot irl

[spring briar]

[wintry moat]

I could understand it

Sometimes

But getting to that point fucking sucked

as it was just beat your head against wall until understand

I much preferred Science, Social Studies and English

[humble mulch]

but if you can look at an issue
And use what you know to slove it
or know a way to look into how to fix it
You'll be pretty alright

[frigid karma]

[humble mulch]

fuck calc tho

[frigid karma]

Didn’t you threaten to ban me

[wintry moat]

Also

[frigid karma]

For being dumb

[frigid karma]

Calc is easy asf

[autumn sorrel]

I excel in History and English, I used to be somewhat good at math but it mostly thank to me being tutored instead of study at school

[frigid karma]

Just git gud

[humble mulch]

Yes but you are still here

[wintry moat]

I was so bored at work I came up with a new term for Superheavy tanks like Ratte

“Treadnoughts”

[frigid karma]

The only remotely tough part of calc is alternating series, fuck that shit, but that’s only bc no one knows how to teach it

[humble mulch]

History and English are what im better at as well

[frigid karma]

[wintry moat]

yes I made a pun and yes ill leave

[frigid karma]

Das good

Land ships

[shut wren]

I’m good at almost anything other than ELA

[wintry moat]

was it Fuller or Littleheart that wanted actual landships

[humble mulch]

wtf is ELA

[wintry moat]

during the 1920s

or both?

[humble mulch]

im American idk your foriegn terms

[wintry moat]

Engilsh Language Arts

[humble mulch]

Ah

[wintry moat]

its dumb I know

[humble mulch]

makes sense tho as a term and class

only ELA i know is

[autumn sorrel]

I can actually score 100% in English during Vietnamese national examination, I intentionally answered wrong 1 question bc there were rumor that 100% will get you question whether you cheat or not, my mom never let that down

[humble mulch]

electronic Arts

[delicate beacon]

Elektrisch Luister Apparaat

[humble mulch]

lmao ive had tests like that

mainly cause shit teachers

[shut wren]

English language arts

Fancy for English

[wintry moat]

Man

We had a teacher for English that got harassed cuz she was good looking to the point she broke and tried running off with a student

[frigid karma]

LOL

[autumn sorrel]

My English grammar is very avg but my Speaking is top notch, I work part time in my family company as interpreter sometimes, mostly when my mom don't understand a word the Foreigner said

[wintry moat]

I can't believe that's an actual thing that happened

but

[frigid karma]

I had a teacher that bitched about Asian kids only learning for the test and grades

And then

Only taught to the test

[humble mulch]

Me

[wintry moat]

bruh

[autumn sorrel]

It actually true

[wintry moat]

she was married and shit

like

[frigid karma]

He’s wrong

[shut wren]

Well

[wintry moat]

Whole life ruined

[frigid karma]

Literally everyone only studied

For the test

[shut wren]

Imma come back later

[frigid karma]

Not just Asian kids

[wintry moat]

I'm on 3%

[autumn sorrel]

It is the universal truth

[wintry moat]

And about 10 miles from home

[deep apex]

Some jackass pulled the fire alarm just now

[wintry moat]

Oof

Some kid made a bomb threat on a stall at my old Elementary

for a joke

fucking idiot

[subtle prawn]

I once had a bomb threat called which resulted in classes being cancelled for the rest of the day

[humble mulch]

Bro

[frigid karma]

I had a gun threat called in once

[wintry moat]

he signed his name iirc

[frigid karma]

Spent the whole day in lockdown

[wintry moat]

which us

What?

[humble mulch]

Ive had a bomb threat once and they refused to do anything about it

[frigid karma]

I played coolmathgames on a chromebook under the table

[wintry moat]

Wht

[frigid karma]

For like

[wintry moat]

the hell

[frigid karma]

8 hours

[wintry moat]

lol

[shut wren]

Somedudes “gang” tried to pull the fire alarm for revenge against the school and got caugh because the fire alarms were not actually connected and just played a Loud sound

[wintry moat]

Bruh

[shut wren]

I’ve had my 5th bomb threat this year

[autumn sorrel]

I saw one of the student from the other class jump himself from the 4th floor, dude didn't die, just broke both of his legs

[wintry moat]

ever hear of the guys who stole a urinal for a tictok trend

[wintry moat]

Jesus

[deep apex]

Think the closest we've gotten to a gun near our school was someone walking around with a toy lever action

[subtle prawn]

No, and I don't think I want to know

[shut wren]

Somebody brought a matchete to school

[wintry moat]

I brought a lighter to school once

By accident

[humble mulch]

I cant say what I brought to school

[wintry moat]

sat there in math absent mindedly clicking the flint

[shut wren]

[deep apex]

Also some weird maniac on the loose that got in the vicinity of the middle school once

[wintry moat]

I love that sound

*I might be a little bit of a firebug

[autumn sorrel]

My classmate sabotage a fire extinguisher, make it into a makeshift spray and thrown it into the Girl bathroom, dude was never caught

[wintry moat]

Wow

[humble mulch]

I like the smell of phosphorus

[wintry moat]

the engineer

[humble mulch]

so I have matches

[shut wren]

I forgot I had a 40 pack of matches

[wintry moat]

so

[deep apex]

On a funny note, we broke the slides in elementary because we launched our beyblades down them so much

[wintry moat]

I nearly burnt down my house oncd

[autumn sorrel]

I once try make bomb with matches head, never test it out

[wintry moat]

pro tip

[shut wren]

Don’t

Use gunpowder instead

[wintry moat]

Don't use gasoline to start a house fireplace

[humble mulch]

lmao

[wintry moat]

Learned that lesson the hard way

[autumn sorrel]

I can make them but the Sulfur smell so bad

[deep apex]

[humble mulch]

Ok i have yall teaching each other how to make bombs

[shut wren]

Gas mask

[deep apex]

Least insane pyromaniac

[shut wren]

Do it

[humble mulch]

i dont wanna be on a watchlist

again

[shut wren]

Second time?

[deep apex]

I already know how I just won't say it

[shut wren]

Rookie numbers

[humble mulch]

i've been to 8 prisons bro

[wintry moat]

damn dude

[humble mulch]

[subtle prawn]

What'd you do last time?

[wintry moat]

What for?

[shut wren]

[deep apex]

Bro needs to fight his demons not the system

[autumn sorrel]

Any idiot that learn Chem know what need for bomb, hard part is the amount, too little and you have a firecracker, too much and you end up losing finger at best

[frigid karma]

How many of those weren’t because of children

[humble mulch]

[wintry moat]

Way too much and goodbye shed

[shut wren]

You can cook blue

[wintry moat]

“Why are you blue?”

[humble mulch]

"loss of life"

[wintry moat]

Oof

[shut wren]

💀💀💀

[deep apex]

This is like that one 4chan thread where the dude posted a pic of a spent fuel rod he had in his house

[humble mulch]

lmao

[shut wren]

What

A nuclear fuel rod?

[deep apex]

Tl;Dr: got 2 millisieverts short of a year's annual background radiation in the time it took him to take the pic of the damn thing

[frigid karma]

https://youtu.be/kEpdLKn0Mtc

[humble mulch]

also no I work security, been one for "work", 1 for a tour, rest to visit family

[frigid karma]

He’s probably dead

[autumn sorrel]

Dude was exposed to a year worth of rad exposure just to take a few pic and posted it on 4chan, in the end, he piss blood

[wintry moat]

Or that guy who built a model Nuclear reactor in his shed

[shut wren]

[deep apex]

This guy yeah

[humble mulch]

I loved this story

[shut wren]

Mfs are crazy

[wintry moat]

yes

Sad part is the guy is banned from any Nuclear work

[autumn sorrel]

Now, that was a good story, that dude just have a bad ending

[shut wren]

Promote that man

[wintry moat]

Fr

[deep apex]

Or that one dude who posted a pic of a literal skull he got from the catacombs of paris

[shut wren]

Mf can build a nuclear reactor from scratch

[wintry moat]

He was in high school as well

[shut wren]

Fucking genius

[wintry moat]

it wouldn't generate power

[shut wren]

[wintry moat]

but the Breeder reactor concept is wild

put in Uranium, it burns it into Plutonium, use plutonium

[autumn sorrel]

Like he exposed how easy and compromise the nuclear management system are, instead of nurturing a future scientist, they snub him

[wintry moat]

he did?

[humble mulch]

yeah I wonder why

[wintry moat]

well,

Nothing he did was illegal

[humble mulch]

You cant legally own a reactor

[frigid karma]

Alright

[wintry moat]

wait

No

[frigid karma]

You are in charge of writing a new 4chan opsi file

The trick is

[wintry moat]

Opsi?

[frigid karma]

It must involve chatgpt or something

[humble mulch]

This is #history lmao

[deep apex]

Ah yes because irridating your neighborhood is totally fine

[frigid karma]

Fuck

[deep apex]

[frigid karma]

Alright

[shut wren]

Yea fr

[wintry moat]

Godspeed gents

My phones at 1%

[shut wren]

Godspeed

[autumn sorrel]

He get the mats from fire alarm and even make fake name to even order Nuclear mats for research purposes, yeah he exposed how incompetent they are

[wintry moat]

And I don't have a charger

he also stole thorium from gunsights

about a 100 of em

The hard part was the Beryllium

Iirc

[humble mulch]

iirc some like

fallout nerds dod the math and shit on how to make mini nukes

[wintry moat]

what?

[autumn sorrel]

That's was inside the fire alarm or something like that

[wintry moat]

well

[humble mulch]

which basically would be radioactive grendades

[shut wren]

Be back in 12 hours bye

[wintry moat]

No it was Thorium from Fire Alarms

[autumn sorrel]

Isn't that like a 3rd of a Davy Crokett? Can it be miniaturize to that size?

[runic prairie]

What yield?

The smallest nuke I’ve heard of is a ~10kg concept for the smallest possible nuclear device feasible.

[humble mulch]

so

it doesnt really go boom

mini nukes from fallout are like as big as a football

[runic prairie]

I mean W48 and W82 warheads aren’t very big.

Same with the Russian/Soviet 152mm designs.

[humble mulch]

give me a sec

watching the vid rn

[autumn sorrel]

Ehh, isn't the Soviet version is for 203mm gun?

[runic prairie]

They have 152mm designs.

Same with 203 and 240mm

Supposedly about 1 kiloton for the 152mm

The American W82 was to have a yeild of 2kt and fit in a rocket-assisted 155mm shell.

[maiden citrus]

forbidden ice cream cup

[runic prairie]

IIRC the 203mm shells could go up to to 10kt while 240mm were up to 15kt or so (basically Hiroshima and Nagasaki yeilds).

[humble mulch]

ok so

Idea is to use Californium as it has a much lower critical mass weight thing

[runic prairie]

Using Tritium-Deuterium boost gas, having a neutron-reflector tamper, and proper shaping of a two-point implosion device can make the necessary fissile material to reach critical mass far lower.

[humble mulch]

probably can for sure, im not a nuclear engineer

[runic prairie]

Could you link the video?

[humble mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUgRi7cN1OA

[frigid karma]

Don’t we have an 81mm nuke mortar

[humble mulch]

I dont think so lmao

[grave ravine]

There is the Davy Crockett, but its a fair bit bigger

[runic prairie]

No, you could probably make a nuke but it would be a gun-type and be very inefficient.

[grave ravine]

Its the smallest nuclear warhead I know of

[runic prairie]

I’m fairly certain the W82 is smaller but it’s also highly classified.

[grave ravine]

Yeah you right, the W82 is smaller

the Davy Crockett's warhead was 279mm

The W82 and W48 are smaller

[frigid karma]

peak design

when 1.6% is like 1/4 of 53.7%

[humble mulch]

lmao

[runic prairie]

Yeah, you don’t need obscure isotopes to create a nuke that size.

It would weigh more but it’s certainly doable.

[tight notch]

LMAO

You are Turkish? @frigid karma

[frigid karma]

Yes

[ivory ridge]

Inshallah the watermelon seller will be gone

[tight notch]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-tiktok-kaan-ozdil-smash-gif-17416135

[runic prairie]

The trick isn’t volume, it’s mass.

W54 weighs less than the W48 but I’m pretty sure the W82 is lighter than even the W54.

[autumn sorrel]

So you trade "war with Kurd" for "war with Greece"?

[runic prairie]

There were also plans for a 127mm nuclear shell for ships but that fell through.

[autumn sorrel]

Isn't that a bit too much?

[runic prairie]

No kill like overkill

[autumn sorrel]

There's dif between overkill and rad poisoning

[runic prairie]

The UCRL Swift: 43.5 kg with a tested yield of 190 tons. Planned yield was 1kt.

[runic prairie]

Not really. Prompt radiation is pretty short range and NBC systems can easily combat fallout.

Fallout from really small nukes is also pretty localized.

[autumn sorrel]

Ah, the begin of the Atom age, everyone start thinking of lobbing nuke around as problem solver

[runic prairie]

I mean these were developed well into the 70s and 80s.

[dapper parcel]

Naval use is probably one of the cleaner use of nukes in practice since fallout mostly come from updrafted particles

[ivory ridge]

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/04/18/cno-very-important-to-add-2nd-constellation-class-shipyard-build-4-frigates-a-year

[frigid karma]

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3BHyOhVXmE&vl=en

[loud cape]

song of the onion

😟😨

[delicate beacon]

This song always makes me sad.

It's a good song but the catchphrase when interpreted as Dutch reminds me of a memories.

[wintry moat]

there's a sad wholesomeness to it

[rapid junco]

It could be used as an ad for Outbacks in France

[shut wren]

For current engines and technology what’s the heaviest tank I can design and build with the heaviest/biggest gun

[delicate beacon]

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/04/18/navy-to-decommission-2-carriers-in-a-row-2-lcs-set-for-foreign-sales-says-long-range-shipbuilding-plan

[frigid karma]

when CSG to sudan

[runic prairie]

Hidden under bricks and rubble

[zealous vine]

Can torpedoes, or even artillery, be able to cause a battleship's hull to break (not necessarily in 2, but a crack through 50% of the beam)

[shut wren]

Homie got 725 kills in the plane

[humble mulch]

I know torpedoes have broken the beams/kneels of smaller ships but most bbs, especially later ones were designed to be able to take many torpedo hits with their TDS. They are quite massive so it’s probably not realistic what so ever

Artillery could, if you are able to detonate ammo storage and what not

[shy haven]

Maybe later and bigger torpedo can inflicte significant damage to the hull but certainly not break the ship in half

[humble mulch]

Bombs could achieve that as well

Yeah like idk how powerful modern torpedos are

Or which bb you want to test it on

There’s a lot of variables but you probably aren’t able to reach that outcome with torpedos of an era against a bb from the same era

[shut wren]

Has there been a ship where It has survived one turret's ammo going boom?

[shy haven]

Not that I think of

Well maybe on smaller ship

[shut wren]

[zealous vine]

Technically Iowa's turret 2..?

[eternal veldt]

Seydlitz

Twice, with good damage control saving her

[zealous vine]

Silver tears, you mind if I ask for your opinion?

[eternal veldt]

In the case of WW2, I don't remember any cases of a torpedo breaking a BB apart.

Most battleships are usually structurally well built to the point that its usually a magazine/boiler explosion that would cause enough stress for a ship to be broken apart.

[shut wren]

I see

[eternal veldt]

A good example is Roma, arguably the most advanced battleship Italy put to sea - even her hull was intact for a good 20 minutes after her forward magazines detonated - and only did she break apart after rolling over and stress was unloaded onto the ceiling.

In fact, being well built in that case was probably why her turret 2 was thrown sky high and into the sea - explosions seek the path of least resistance.

[eternal veldt]

I think this depends where it hits. You have magnetic exploders back then already, which allows the torpedo to explode directly beneath the keel - arguably one of the most vulnerable part of the ship.

And I think the modern Mk48 does exactly that?

Either way, if you bypass the torpedo defence system entirely and just explode right beneath it, I don't think the BB will fare well.

Because that's exactly what happened to the Cavour at Taranto (left 2 panes).

[runic prairie]

Yes. In fact the Mk48 has its warhead split into two parts for keel shots.

Never mind I was confusing the general torpedo with a mine-laying variant.

[zealous vine]

Interesting..

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1648436187185680387

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#OTD in 1988, the U.S. Navy engaged in its largest surface battle since WWII when it launched Operation Praying Mantis against Iranian targets. The operation was in retaliation to the Iranian mining of the Persian Gulf that had severely damaged the frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts.

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Twitter · Apr 18, 2023, 9:19 PM

[frigid karma]

Was browsing warshipporn today and someone asserted the freedoms have bigger issues than the independences

Can anyone here pitch in and which class has less operating issues

[cinder escarp]

The freedoms have a lot more. The only real issue in the indies is they have a side-main hull joint less robust than calculated, so bracing is being installed.

Freedoms have gearbox issues, are overweight, and can't meet KPPs.

They can neither meet the originally required speed or endurance KPPs.

[frigid karma]

@humble mulch is posting about sudan allowed here?

there's some interesting pics popping up

[autumn sorrel]

Whose fighting in Sudan again? I kinda lost track after a few years

[frigid karma]

military and paramilitary, rapid support forces

[autumn sorrel]

I don’t think posting about sudan military isn’t allowed, it’s not like it will turn political when you talk about their tank and equipment

[humble mulch]

No you guys can't talk about Sudan

[frigid karma]

If ww3 starts, will everything be banned

[humble mulch]

Posting stuff on what they have in stock/equipment is fine but like

[frigid karma]

I mean, the paramilitary captured some tonks

got some pics

[humble mulch]

Try not to go into current events

[autumn sorrel]

Define “current”, is it fine if it is second hand info or like its happen last week?

[humble mulch]

Lmao

[autumn sorrel]

Is it the Iranian copy of Chinese copy of T-55?

[frigid karma]

@spiral cedar found a gold mine of content

[humble mulch]

If it's from an ongoing conflict it's apart of current events

[frigid karma]

gonna post these 1 by one instead

https://preview.redd.it/ejp2rol0smua1.png?width=559&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=d5491289c92927f773366f42b94121b9e38b5364

[humble mulch]

We generally, don't want to talk about ongoing civil wars, military conflicts, and etc etc like politics and shit here

[humble mulch]

Cause some people can't keep with wanks in their pants or are just bad people

[frigid karma]

you get brain damage! and you get brain damage!

EVERYONE gets brain damage!

[humble mulch]

God those all look bad outside the anti tank vehicle one

Never heard of that claim but would be interesting to read if true

[autumn sorrel]

I half tempted to engage in such conversation just bc it is interesting to know why some people come up with such a wacky ideas

[spiral cedar]

The most amusing parts of these is actually the biographies under their names

[humble mulch]

Lmao

[spiral cedar]

Like this one

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/515583624083406848/1098125745169113259/cxm4epl0smua1.png

[frigid karma]

https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-a-M4-Sherman-platoon-meet-a-Spartan-Army

crunching sounds

bob, you hear something?

[manic latch]

Only applies to M4A4

[autumn sorrel]

I only go to Quora to ask math problems

Their history chat is full of wankers

[frigid karma]

also ship

[spiral cedar]

https://www.quora.com/How-long-would​-an-M1-Abrams-last-against-​a-platoon​-of-M4-Shermans

[spiral cedar]

This is a very common flat earther one

[frigid karma]

and then

the answer goes in the opposite direction

tell colorado that!

[autumn sorrel]

We need MAG gun armed Iowa, with CIWS all over the ship

[autumn sorrel]

So IDF is planning a new “tank” to replace Merkava mk4, they described it with railgun tech and stuff. Are those official goal or just some newspapers exaggeration?

[frigid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

[autumn sorrel]

This I have no word for

[cinder escarp]

This is actually a very complicated thing to answer, because there were three original IS tanks!

It had a very cursed development (it only became IS instead of KV, because the designer was superstitious about the tank being indexed KV-13)

[frigid karma]

kliment voroshilov really fell from grace after finland

but comparing a kv-13

to a t-34

just, no

[cinder escarp]

https://www.tankarchives.ca/2017/12/unlucky-kv.html

https://www.tankarchives.ca/2018/01/second-to-last-step.html

https://www.tankarchives.ca/2020/07/an-is-in-hand.html

There were quite literally three separate generations of KV-13/IS-1.

[frigid karma]

@spiral cedar last one for tonight: read the description

well, if the navy guys say so..

[spiral cedar]

I’ve seen that one

[frigid karma]

[spiral cedar]

Don’t forget the classic

[manic latch]

Least biased US navy fan

[autumn sorrel]

“364 upvotes”

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wooK8A5NECo

[spring briar]

Former fire control man

No wonder he’s no longer one

[runic prairie]

When you forget about refraction, let alone spotting from aircraft.

[runic prairie]

E-3

[spiral cedar]

https://wnus.usz.edu.pl/sm/file/article/download/20024.pdf

[spring briar]

I love Polish people

[runic prairie]

That’s a lot of footnotes.

[manic latch]

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/04/sikorsky-boeing-will-not-sue-army-over-flraa/

[shut wren]

I couldn’t find a answer on Google so how long did the clean up for the battle of Kursk in 1943 take

[manic latch]

Months. Since harvest season was coming, Soviet farmers had to farm around the tank wrecks

[shut wren]

Thanks

[digital mantle]

What is the closest thing to Hwah Jah’s AA guns in the game?
I’m told her guns are the AA guns are RBL 12-pounder 8 cwt, but I don’t know what that would be in the game…

[manic latch]

Type 625 armed with missiles( range of 15m to 6km ) and six-barrel 25mm Gatling-style anti-air gun

[autumn sorrel]

RBL 12Pdr 8 cwt is a field gun

Not AA gun

[digital mantle]

Oh…

They had these things all the way back in the WWII-era?

They look too modern and advanced for the time…

[autumn sorrel]

Maybe in NZ but the gun was a 19 century design

[manic latch]

Italian, Japan, British used them

The Italian Cannon 76/40 Model 1916 was a licensed derivative of the QF 12-pounder used in a number of roles during World War I and World War

[digital mantle]

It said she and most the other Dragon empry ships have 76mm guns, but there are one too many…

[autumn sorrel]

This is the gun you named

Are you sure you got the name correct?

[manic latch]

I think he meant 12 cwt

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_12-pounder_12_cwt_naval_gun

[digital mantle]

So as far as Harbin and Hwah Jah go, which guns in-game are the closest to matching their real-life counter parts (even though Harbin doesn’t exist physically)?

[manic latch]

Harbin is full Soviet but sadly we don't have those AAs yet

So use NP single 37mm as best alternative or Oerlikon

I think Harbin had few Oerlikons

[digital mantle]

I’m just gonna have Harbin keep the Northern Parliament Single AA gun then

[manic latch]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_37mm_AA_(70-K)#Type_3-0

Harbin use twin or quad version of this depending on hull

[digital mantle]

That one… I wish Northern Parliament equipment was available in the gear lab… OR MAYBE ADD A NORTHERN PARLIAMENT EVENT TO THE WAR ARCHIVES, DEVELOPERS! HINT-FLIPPIN’-HINT!

[manic latch]

Yeah I also hope more NP equipment

Especially 130mm/55 B-2-U as Udaloi class dual purpose guns

Even better than Tash gun

[autumn sorrel]

Not yet, they only just add France gears, you need a bit more special gears to justify a fully fledged NP tech tree

[digital mantle]

So once more for the sake of ensuring I understand, Hwah Jah’s AA gun is…?

[autumn sorrel]

Eagle union 76mm AA gun, it should be the closet one to irl performance

[digital mantle]

I see…

Thank you!

[eternal veldt]

Krem, admit it, you just want the BL-132

[manic latch]

Nah unlikely it would be stronger than Plymouth gun for CLs

Buuut can be really lit secondary gun for my Soyuz

I want Nevsky's DP 180mm alot

[digital mantle]

Man, whatchu talkin’ about? I’m steady over here tryna stock up on Sardgenan purple twin AA guns and Iris Torpedoes!

[manic latch]

@spring briar

[eternal veldt]

this monstrosity

[autumn sorrel]

Ah, I remember the salt when it was first introduced

[manic latch]

Do mind this is the quad 100mm
There is also BL-127 as Quad 130mm

Smolensk is famous user

[ivory ridge]

Ah yes the gun that would totally work™️

Just upscale a quad 100m, totally how it works

[manic latch]

Ansaldo quad 381mm

Italy Frens likely inspired Soviets

[ivory ridge]

[spring briar]

I have this image in my folder from multiple angles krem

But thx

[manic latch]

Fren

[digital mantle]

The fresh hell is THAT!?

[eternal veldt]

Haven't seen this before, have you?

MLK-16-130, the aforementioned "Smolensk" small cruiser.

[delicate beacon]

I have some cute pictures

Need to transfer everything to PC though

[ivory ridge]

[digital mantle]

You guys and your Murmy Meme!

[manic latch]

[digital mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/god-damn-it-craig-tucker-south-park-s21e2-put-it-down-gif-20402476

[manic latch]

You know

I will forever respect South park fans/memes over jojo ones

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1648682376472457218

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

Happy 77th birthday to actor Tim Curry. As Dr. Yevgeni Petrov, he was duped by Captain Marko Ramius into abandoning the Red October.

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Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 1:38 PM

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1648503298318823424

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#OTD in 1906, Xerox was founded as the Haloid Photographic Company. The Xerox 914 photocopier transformed office work by making info easy to share. For that reason, Admiral Thomas Moorer said the "Xerox machine is one of the biggest threats to national security ever devised."

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Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 1:46 AM

[delicate beacon]

I took like half a thousand pictures

[wintry moat]

Got a star wars turbolassr turret

[deep apex]

Ah yes the company Apple would later buy the for the keyboard and mouse computer interface from

[maiden citrus]

yee

they were sittin on the tech, car vs horse scenario, their investors wanted faster horses

[manic latch]

@spring briar

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obrv_GdvNf0

[delicate beacon]

Last 106 are uploading

[delicate beacon]

And then the u-boats turned out to be a paper tiger.

[deep apex]

I wouldn't call sinking 526 ships one year a paper tiger

[grave ravine]

I mean sure they weren't going to be able to actually win in the end, but they were a serious threat

[deep apex]

Japan had a similar number of ships sunk in the Pacific (548) in 1944 by subs alone.

It was like taking a sledgehammer to the face

[delicate beacon]

Well, yeah, u-boats did do some damage.

But not the war-ending threat kind.

[deep apex]

Just because they can't win the war doesn't mean you disregard them entirely

[delicate beacon]

Fair.

But I thought the fear in reference was mass starvation and britain being isolated etc. etc.

[deep apex]

The country was already rationing at home.

They'd effectively being rationing the rations.

Which can be concerning at best

[ivory ridge]

Kid named LRASM, NSM, JSM and SLAM-ER:

[delicate beacon]

Cloud upload complete

2gb zipped

[shut wren]

Smartest paid Chinese bot

[manic latch]

@tough quail

Murm memes
look inside
Undef

[ivory ridge]

I am the murm

[tough quail]

that is the funniest looking angle

[runic prairie]

The U.S. doesn’t have anti-carrier missiles

What the hell do they think the Zuni is? That rocket has damaged more super-carriers than any other weapon.

[ivory ridge]

[shut wren]

[manic latch]

I get it

Zunis are a curse

[ivory ridge]

I just found out of the KH-41 used by the US as target drones

Interesting

[manic latch]

Jerma anti ship

JERM

[delicate beacon]

Unpacking

[manic latch]

Jamming Enormous Range Missile

[delicate beacon]

what a cuties

[manic latch]

The devil

[runic prairie]

Should’ve been smothered by a pillow once it was born.

[delicate beacon]

What

Don't you shittalk these cuties like that

[manic latch]

Their ugliness %90 main reason not being produced

[runic prairie]

They got what they deserved.

[delicate beacon]

The last one actually entered production with a different weapon system.

The former kinda has too, but not in a naval configuration

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHLYeBtGvOg

[autumn sorrel]

What did Cheong said this time?

[ivory ridge]

The war understanders™️

[frigid karma]

Ah yes the totally

[autumn sorrel]

I come to conclusion that if you don’t understand a field, refrain from acting like an expert

[spring briar]

@manic latch found Stalingrad long range shell

[frigid karma]

Infantry obsolete

They die to small fast pointy things

[manic latch]

Holy fucking how

[frigid karma]

Everything obsolete because a ballistic missile kills it

[spring briar]

Next to Stalingrad normal AP

[autumn sorrel]

Tank obsolete bc Javelin

Conveniently ignoring APS system

I know that guy, some western tankie live in Vietnam, he so fucking cringe

[manic latch]

Current APS doesn't work for Javelin

[autumn sorrel]

Can’t lock on?

[manic latch]

Top attack

Need a variant that can cover top

[autumn sorrel]

Isn’t Iron Fist capable of aiming high?

[manic latch]

Guess exact angles are classified. But it's made by Israel. And Israel rarely faces top attack atgms if at all

[frigid karma]

Believe it or not, he said that too

Musk, that is

[autumn sorrel]

Hmm, if can’t aim high then can Arena be program to detonate in the cone that intercept Javelin?

[manic latch]

Germany will try something with Leo2A8

Top faced radar and uhh modified trophy turret

That could work for Javelin

[autumn sorrel]

I have a turn around on him after he intentionally short sell bitcoin thing, I start to distrust him since then

[chilly osprey]

Musk is, believe it or not, actually not that smart, he just happened to start out with enough money to fund other people's ideas

[autumn sorrel]

Didn’t PLA have top attack missile? I remember reading about one

[spring briar]

krem happy?

[manic latch]

I like him more becuase of SpaceX. Not many rich people do that sort of thing

It's better than building gold plated towers

[autumn sorrel]

The golden “dong”

[manic latch]

Of course

Stalingrad long range shell

[autumn sorrel]

Seriously, which idiot approved the design

[spring briar]

It was possibly colored like this

[autumn sorrel]

The shape have better aerodynamic?

[spring briar]

it's lighter

[manic latch]

Things "Rich Saudis" doing right now

1 trillion dollar 120km wide skyscraper wall

8 billion dollar Turtle shaped megayacht

Jeddah Tower (Aimed to beat Burj Khalifa's height)

Gold plated skyscraper

So yeah. Elon is not that bad

[spring briar]

don't forget starship being the dumbest idea and design ever

[autumn sorrel]

Ngl, I want the Wall to be complete, it so dystopian that it sound fun

[manic latch]

Current construction

Project

[autumn sorrel]

Proto hivecity

[manic latch]

Ye

[autumn sorrel]

We are well on our way to Mega city one

Wonder who will get the bright idea of implementing Judges system

Wait, how are they planning to provide energy for the whole city?

[spring briar]

@ivory ridge

@manic latch

[autumn sorrel]

Armament seem a bit light

Which class is it?

[spring briar]

Etna class

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etna-class_cruiser_(1941)

[ivory ridge]

[autumn sorrel]

Ah, for the Thai

[ivory ridge]

Is it tho

Why is there a second funnel

And a superfiring AA gun behind A

Ok bottom is Tre Kronor

[manic latch]

Holy shit

[ivory ridge]

I'm not sure what that straight funnel version is

[spring briar]

[autumn sorrel]

What ship can be classify as light battleship?

Like in term of dif between a CL and a CA

[spring briar]

uh

Espana?

[autumn sorrel]

The shitty Dreadnought class?

[spring briar]

"shitty"

they were very small yes

and lightly armoured

[autumn sorrel]

Hmm, make sense

[spring briar]

basically a slow VdT without armor

and better guns

[autumn sorrel]

VdT?

[spring briar]

Von der Tann

[autumn sorrel]

Ah, I like Von der Tann

[spring briar]

Yeah I like her too

[autumn sorrel]

I don’t know, I like Dreadnought in general, I have some misgivings with the early gun placement and especially the weird wing turret but I can’t find myself loving the Espana

Something about the class doesn’t sit well with me

[spring briar]

[autumn sorrel]

On the other hand, I wish the french had gone through with the quad turret on their dreadnought, they look cute

[humble mulch]

I adore wing turrets

[spring briar]

we were gonna fit them
blame WW1

[autumn sorrel]

I find asymmetrical a bit hard to grasp

[spring briar]

Modernized Espana

I too love wing turrets

[humble mulch]

To bad they didn’t find a way to buff the super structure to allow for full arc of firing

I think they are more like a weird radical symmetry then the bilateral sips ended up going too

[delicate beacon]

My man

Tea what's your opinion on the Roma class layout

[humble mulch]

I fucking love it

[spring briar]

[humble mulch]

This one right?

[spring briar]

@humble mulch the protected cruiser Vasco da Gama only has wing turrets

[humble mulch]

This is the type of shit i’d make in UAD

[spring briar]

[humble mulch]

Wing turrets let you do age of sail shit

Which I love

Just slam your lines into each other and brawl

[spring briar]

@humble mulch

[humble mulch]

Goes so hard

Lol that’s cute

[spring briar]

Portugal's only capital ship in history

[autumn sorrel]

Look cute ig

[spring briar]

[autumn sorrel]

Pointy

[spring briar]

Mle.1949 HE shell used by Richie and JB

[runic prairie]

Hot

[shut wren]

Tbh I like the bronze swim shells

Like those of the 57mm Soviet

[spring briar]

bronze swim?

[autumn sorrel]

Bronze trim?

[spring briar]

bronze ring?

[autumn sorrel]

This I guess

[spring briar]

the soviet 57?

[autumn sorrel]

Yeah, ammo for S-60

[shut wren]

Auto correct

Bronze shells

[shut wren]

Yes this

But bronze

[autumn sorrel]

Hmm, maybe it is Chinese made shell

[shut wren]

[spring briar]

shells aren't bronze
bullets can be bronze

but I've never seen or heard of a bronze 57mm

[shut wren]

Dunno I recall it was bronze

[autumn sorrel]

PAVN manufacture ammunition to Soviet standard

[shut wren]

The PLA used to do that

[spring briar]

there is soviet 14.5mm bronze ball ammo

[autumn sorrel]

Maybe casing? I do recall some Chinese made 37mm casing look bronze

[shut wren]

Meh good enough

[autumn sorrel]

So casing

[spring briar]

the middle shell

[shut wren]

Maybe it was my imagination

[shut wren]

[spring briar]

[shut wren]

I think it was a arty or anti tank shell

Not a tank one

[spring briar]

[shut wren]

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/USN_Submariner/status/1648735551929843712

🇺🇸𝗢𝗹𝗱 𝗦𝘂𝗯𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗲𝗿⚓️ (@USN_Submariner)

Guests in the splash zone got more than a feeling as USS Boston (SSN-703) was lunched #OTD in 1980 after waiting a long time. Sailors were able to hitch a ride manning the rails, but were told don't look back as they held on for peace of mind.
#USNavy #Submarines

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 5:09 PM

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbK3FkpqD4

[spring briar]

[maiden citrus]

bismarck vs fletcher: anti-aircraft battery

[runic prairie]

We have to be fair, make it a PT boat.

[shut wren]

Too high,make it a flak 88

[delicate beacon]

New WoWs ship descriptions are

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1648805862071320576

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

In 1945, HMS Reaper (ex-USS Winjah) was allocated to the U.S. for Operation Seahorse which was naval part of Operation Lusty. Lusty was the allied effort to recover top secret German aircraft. The planes shipped to NJ included Me 262 and Arado Ar 234 jets. #WarshipWednesday

Twitter · Apr 19, 2023, 9:48 PM

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt5UzWwfajo

[frigid karma]

nuke the french

[frigid karma]

hypersonic

glide

missiles

[shrewd pecan]

people assuming its impossible to shoot down hypersonics

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/zotTactnmap7PM3/status/1648858847841505280

ken akiyama.2000 (@zotTactnmap7PM3)

護衛艦かが！⛴️⚓️
2023.4.20

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278

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 1:19 AM

[frigid karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy7gBTQgrK0&ab_channel=SimulationBros

allied weapon to defeat maus

[glass trail]

they chose rafale over both f22 AND f35???

[deep apex]

Oh wait this isn't AzurKnights

[sullen canyon]

[deep apex]

[subtle prawn]

Bruh

[runic prairie]

In the terminal phase they’re just fancy MARVs, which, while difficult to intercept depending on evasiveness, are possible. The advantage they give is in midcourse interception, which is substantially harder.

[shrewd pecan]

ALL WE NEED!

MORE SM-6s

GODS GREATEST ANTI EVERYTHING MISSILE

[runic prairie]

Facts

[shrewd pecan]

👁️ the navy buying more hulls they don't have the sailors to crew over just buying thousands of SM-6s

[autumn sorrel]

You need ship to project power, sm-6 can’t

[runic prairie]

This message has been sponsored by Raytheon

[shrewd pecan]

I'm talking like

LCS procurement

[runic prairie]

Oh but it can

[autumn sorrel]

Yeah, LCS is shit

[runic prairie]

You can hit ground targets with it.

[shrewd pecan]

it can strike literally any type of target

[autumn sorrel]

Are we having a wonder weapon now

[runic prairie]

All we need is an ASW variant.

Wait, what if we add a drag chute so the second stage can make a soft landing in the water.

Then it acts like a supercavitating torpedo.

I think I’m onto something.

[shrewd pecan]

sm-6 with a Mark 54 in it

[autumn sorrel]

Are u saying that if alien come to invade us, just throw sm-6 at them?

[shrewd pecan]

YES

[runic prairie]

Yes

[shrewd pecan]

WANT TO KNOW HOW TO KILL A UFO?!

[runic prairie]

SM-6, SM-2ER/RIM-67/RIM-156 with an active seeker.

RIM-67, SM-2MR/RIM-66 with a booster

This thing: an SM-6 without a booster.

We’ve come full circle.

[alpine onyx]

Am I havin' a stroke?

[shrewd pecan]

air to air SIM-6 when

[autumn sorrel]

SoonTM

[runic prairie]

No, they’re just

[frigid karma]

but can it penetrate concrete

[shrewd pecan]

if you throw enough of them

[frigid karma]

put a penetrator on it

i'd say, 12 inches

ribbed (for aerodynamics) of course

[runic prairie]

Revive the nuclear standard missile project.

It doesn’t matter if it has a 10 kiloton warhead.

[frigid karma]

Air to air sm-6 with nuclear warhead

The b-52 can probably mount it

Let’s see Hit call it a death trap after it yeets 5 nukes in the direction of anything near it

[tough quail]

revive deez

[frigid karma]

I main medic in bf1

So, no

[tough quail]

[frigid karma]

I have two med crates up my ass good luck killing me as I one tap you with general liu

The closest thing the Germans got to airburst in ww2 is shooting at trees in Bastogne

[shrewd pecan]

nuclear ABM

bring it back

[grave ravine]

The guy appears to be asking why the Axis countries didn't use DP secondaries, and the answer to that would be that other than the Japanese 100mm, they didn't manage to make any good DP guns, though nothing could compare to the glory of the 5"/38 with director fire and VT fuzes.

[alpine onyx]

It appears so, indeed. But it does read like a salad. Though I wouldn't call the 100mm to be good, it was amazing for IJN standards, but mediocre compared to some other Axis dp guns (like the 105/65)

[spring briar]

The Italian 90mm was ok?

[alpine onyx]

Probably a tad worse as a gun, but much better otherwise

[maiden citrus]

it was also primarily an anti air weapon, the 100

[spring briar]

[maiden citrus]

japan's 5'' dp guns were mediocre but functioned

[spring briar]

For the short time Richie was an “axis” ship, she did shoot down some aircraft

[alpine onyx]

The Japanese 127/40 was workable, but they always struggled with fire control being crude and lacking the fancy features that other navies would eventually adopt

RPC was not in the dictionary and stabilization was dishonorable

[spring briar]

Sirene

[alpine onyx]

Here?

[spring briar]

[alpine onyx]

[desert agate]

The fuck you want

[frigid karma]

you called the b-52 a death trap before (and rightfully so), and since I was shitposting about putting nuclear-tipped sm-6s on a b-52 i brought that up

anyhow

cursed xf5f

[autumn sorrel]

https://twitter.com/annquann/status/1601082406911365120?s=46&t=VmBPf9V3wtTffwschA-ygw

Lee Ann Quann (@AnnQuann)

"Air cover"

Close-up of 9K35 Strela-10 and upgraded ZSU-23-4 (Duc Minh).

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Twitter · Dec 9, 2022, 5:12 AM

Vietnamese ZSU upgrade seem to take a lot from Poland Biala config with 4 Igla and Made in Vietnam FCS

[subtle prawn]

https://tass.com/defense/1606933

[manic latch]

Guess only Nakhimov will be left as last Kirov

@tough quail Object 279 with 240mm Siege gun proposal

[autumn sorrel]

How do they plan to dampening the recoil?

[supple sandal]

They don't

[autumn sorrel]

Guarantee ear ringing and deaf for the crew

[spring briar]

If it is a siege gun, the recoil might vent through the front of the barrel like on the sturmtiger

[manic latch]

There is also missile proposal

Man what a weird tank ngl

[manic latch]

This is one of my favorite Object 279 proposal. Godly 85mm/100mm guns

Best shell having 1980m/s velocity

85mm/175 barrel

And 100mm/162 as alternative

[main trench]

What's the difference between bc and bm ?

[spring briar]

What in the fuck

Why