history

[manic latch]

Hope WT adds F-111 and Su-24 together

[shut wren]

Su-33 pls

[manic latch]

No

[shut wren]

Need the J-15

[cerulean ice]

whatever, this isn't WT general either

[shrewd pecan]

https://discover.dtic.mil

[manic latch]

Say

What classified leak would be very horrible for a plane

Max range and ceiling level? Speed? G endurance?

[spiral cedar]

Composition and distribution of stealth coating probably

[manic latch]

[shrewd pecan]

Half of the public F-22 documents

Are japans attempts to buy them

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA472652

[manic latch]

they really wanted F22

[shut wren]

They got the 35

[manic latch]

"May consider repealing this ban"

[manic latch]

Do you know what most classified plane is?

[shrewd pecan]

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA435449.pdf

[shut wren]

It’s so classified that I don’t know

[manic latch]

Yep

[shut wren]

I would guess U-2

[manic latch]

Nope

It's a plane we don't know

[shut wren]

Or SR-71

Alr imma stealth Area 51

[shrewd pecan]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_RQ-180

[manic latch]

Army/Navy: Look at our 30 morbillion $ prototype. Pls give more budget

Air Force:

[shut wren]

Saw some meme about Biden ordering gaijin to shoot down the balloon

[manic latch]

We don't even know the design of Stealth Black Hawk but it's back rotor

[tribal mortar]

Fun fact that’s from one of the A-10 demo team pilots

[shrewd pecan]

It takes a demo team pilot to pull the true stunts

[cinder escarp]

Yeah, the Q-180 is a good contender for most classified

Outside of a few other planes that are even more deep black

The Q-72 and (2nd) Q-20 are also something

What is YQ-11A?

[shrewd pecan]

which Q-11 and Q-20?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-20_Avenger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroVironment_RQ-20_Puma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroVironment_RQ-11_Raven

assuming your just talking about the MQ-20 developments

[cinder escarp]

Go look up YQ-11A, it's... a sister to the Avenger

Although details on to what exactly it is are a complete mystery

And yes, the funny thing is they hid the "normal" Avenger under the Puma's Q-20 designation for years.

And this is the XRQ-72

[shrewd pecan]

I was assuming you were talking about the SR-72

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_SR-72

[spring briar]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-fast-jet-plane-top-gun-gif-15818264

[frigid karma]

mach 10 babeee

[frigid karma]

least crazy techincal

[shut wren]

What if we mount a DD Turret to it

or a DD AA gun

[manic latch]

Wait isn't this the one you usually use as Kamikaze drone in Bf4

RQ-20

[shrewd pecan]

no that's the RQ-11

loitering munition I think is a switchblade 300

[frigid karma]

a 127 on a truck

yeah that'll die

[shrewd pecan]

I mean

[shut wren]

76

[frigid karma]

Well that’s a much bigger truck

Not a Toyota

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1622313075360628746

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

After the Italian sub Nautilo was scuttled in 1943, it was raised by Germany and commissioned as UIT 19. Sunk in an RAF air raid, UIT 19 was then raised by the Yugoslav Navy and commissioned as Sava. Stricken in 1971, Sava became the Croatian disco "Yellow Submarine." #SubSunday

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Twitter · Feb 5, 2023, 7:15 PM

[frigid karma]

[shrewd pecan]

ah

[subtle prawn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAESAR_self-propelled_howitzer

[spring briar]

CAESAR and M777 my beloved

[shrewd pecan]

remember what the Gaz Tigr took from you

[maiden citrus]

always been one of my arguments on the viewpoint personally

as for jaba asking if the reverse scenario would be true of japan not being at war making it not considered a world war, I would agree

[cinder escarp]

As a certified plane autist, in no way would I consider a PR napkin sketch from LockMart an actually well classified program.

[frigid karma]

to play the devil's advocate here

[cinder escarp]

The greatest thing about the Vodnik was the universal chassis!

[frigid karma]

At 1939, would people consider the war in Asia and the war in Europe the same war?

[cinder escarp]

Like a boxer, the rear half was just a flat open platform for modules

[shrewd pecan]

god I love this awful shitbox

[cinder escarp]

It was a good idea!

[maiden citrus]

as the countries perform their invasions, since they are allies, I would assume it would be counted as such as their end goals are clear

[frigid karma]

I mean

[shrewd pecan]

tho the mortar carrier does not properly match the patrias

[frigid karma]

at that point in time the germans are actually aiding the chinese

in their war against japan

so i guess by 1939 you could say, china is part of the axis?

idfk myself lmao

[shut wren]

So

Sino-japanese was Axis infighting?

[frigid karma]

Sort of yea

The Japanese would shelter Jews

The Germans would shelter Chinese

[maiden citrus]

when you're both racist friends with benefits

but can't understand the other guy's racism very well

[shut wren]

Me and my friends:

[humble mulch]

I absolutely love this

[shut wren]

funny mod man

[cerulean ice]

No, not really

[shut wren]

r/woosh

you missed the joke

[cerulean ice]

say that to the guy who replied to you with "yea"

[shut wren]

"sort of yea"

[ivory ridge]

i see we posting guns on trucks

this doesnt count but still

[shut wren]

[Insert any imagine of russian spaag during ww2]

[ivory ridge]

ok but those arent artillery

[frigid karma]

What if we call it spaaag

[maiden citrus]

it counts in my heart, as it looks cool

[shut wren]

This thing

[delicate beacon]

Why does that gun remind me suspiciously of the Bofors.

[shut wren]

76mm

[manic latch]

It's inspired from a Soviet model that was inspired from Vickers Model 1931

[jagged monolith]

The museum piece says HI AND FUCK YOU!

[manic latch]

Fren

[manic latch]

I'm worried about your fps rates

[jagged monolith]

Mistake not the Thunder's name for it being all noise. It brings lightning as well.

[shut wren]

Gib PLZ-05/45

[jagged monolith]

Dare the Chinese attempt to fight the Ministry of Firepower? We may lack... uh, human rights for our soldiers, but we have more boom than the PLAGF.

[shut wren]

that starting to change

Soldiers are getting more boom

[shrewd pecan]

I mean if there's a western artillery army

its the South Korean Armed Forces

South Koreans operate more M109s than the US does rn

and they have more K9s than the US has SPGs as well

[jagged monolith]

The ministry of firepower has, in raw numbers, the largest number of self-propelled 6" barrels.

[ivory ridge]

[shrewd pecan]

🤨 tho that doesn't stop the fact that South Korean procurement and modernization being a rather massive cluster fuck

[jagged monolith]

3,000 155mm barrels of the Ministry of Firepower.

Yes, this figure is accurate.

Fortunately artillery is not a clusterfuck aside from the PGMs.

1,200 K9s, 1,200 K55A1s, and something like 500 KH179s. Literal museum pieces though, those things.

[shrewd pecan]

now if it didn't take 2+ decades for the army to make a actual M109 replacement

we were so close
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM2001_Crusader

[jagged monolith]

Fear not, we will realize Crusader for you.

[shrewd pecan]

K9 has a partial autoloader

[shut wren]

Wt mfs on their way to leak it

[shrewd pecan]

Crusader is essentially a naval gun in terms of function

[jagged monolith]

K9A2 has a full one.

[shrewd pecan]

https://youtu.be/hBm-FPcz850

[jagged monolith]

K9A3 is going to be fun.

[shrewd pecan]

beyond that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1299_howitzer

ERCAs going to have a full blown autoloader

[jagged monolith]

Really stretching m109 to the limit if that's going to happen, I'm skeptical if it can at all.

[shrewd pecan]

it has M109 DNA with it tho its a lot bigger than a M109

its gun can throw rounds at around 70 KMs with the range likely being stretched up to 100

[jagged monolith]

There are so very few things anyone at all does better than the americans in war. I can't resist gloating about this particular one.

[shrewd pecan]

in terms of gun artillery the US has been lacking beyond the adoption of guided rounds

tho with ERCA

and the 777 replacement for Stryker brigades

there's going to be quite a bit of well needed modernization

[jagged monolith]

Fucking PGMs

Kimchi PGK now

[shrewd pecan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M982_Excalibur

[jagged monolith]

The envy of the Korean Army. Oh well, it'll all be fixed by 2027.

[shrewd pecan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M712_Copperhead

[jagged monolith]

CAESAR. How... annoying.

K9's eternal rival.

[ivory ridge]

remember what they took from you

(for those who dont know, this was always a mock-up)

[shrewd pecan]

eh could be worse

we could of ended up with the 105 MM equipped Stryker

[ivory ridge]

same for this

[ivory ridge]

oh that

still a LAV technically

it confused me when i was looking for wheeled light tanks

[shrewd pecan]

it was pitched to be the main artillery asset for Stryker units

south african turret with the G7

[ivory ridge]

there are like

[jagged monolith]

Wheeled SPGs. Disgusting.

[ivory ridge]

3 more 105mm equipped LAVs other than the stryker

actually well

what i said it's true but

the LAV-600 is a completely different thing from the LAV-700 and the stryker

they just have the same name

[shrewd pecan]

all I can say is uhhhhhh

[ivory ridge]

[shrewd pecan]

I hope to god

that this is not adopted

[ivory ridge]

LAV-600

[ivory ridge]

LAV-700AG

[shrewd pecan]

personally

[ivory ridge]

LAV-AG

[shrewd pecan]

the LAV-700 is my favorite out of the bunch

[ivory ridge]

3 different vehicles

all 105mm

[jagged monolith]

Thanks I hate it

[ivory ridge]

this is a list for warthunder so it's missing all the vehicles already ingame

[jagged monolith]

Wheeled abominations!

[ivory ridge]

want to see an actual abomination

thanks UAE

[shrewd pecan]

I want

one of the US experimental light tanks

with a 120 MM ETC gun

[ivory ridge]

i fucking hate it

fucking BMP turret on a vehicle that likely costs 10 times as much as one

why is the UAE obsessed with BMP turrets

this one is on an OF-40 hull

[shrewd pecan]

they have a bunch of BMP-3s

and I'm assuming

a bunch of surplus turrets

[jagged monolith]

They're the brainiest of the Arabs anyhow, cut them some slack.

[ivory ridge]

tfw the only russian vehicle i would ever like doesnt actually exist

[jagged monolith]

Besides, even oil states are cheap.

[ivory ridge]

come on just slap a fucking

what's the name of the russian light tank again

just slap its turret on a bumerang

[ivory ridge]

2S25

As of 2014 the South Korean and Indian militaries have expressed interest in acquiring the 2S25 Sprut-SD

[jagged monolith]

No idea where that came from

India idk

They are exponentially more stupid than arabs

[ivory ridge]

neither does wikipedia

there are less spruts than i thought

i was wondering why we didnt see any during current events

[jagged monolith]

Indian project mismanagement is legendary btw

[deep apex]

The Bradley's are estimated to be in Antwerp in 4 days based on the due date of the ship they're on

[shrewd pecan]

The sprut is in a constant state of development and delays

Shame honestly since it’s the only part of the BMD family of vehicles that actually make sense to field

[frigid karma]

i love f4f i love f4f

[shut wren]

"Here you see,An wild new war thunder american main,Figuring out all the details about his surroundings"

My us tree in shambles

[maiden citrus]

the rotund

[shut wren]

Rush P-40s they have more freedom per plane

[frigid karma]

first game

4 kills in 30 seconds

[shut wren]

Goddamn

[maiden citrus]

one for each browning

[frigid karma]

it shreds things so fast

[maiden citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/rango-hat-tip-tip-hat-tip-of-the-hat-cartoon-gif-26464084

[frigid karma]

my p-26 takes like an hour to kill a pby

this thing does in 50 ms

[shut wren]

Maybe because P-26 is ass

[maiden citrus]

30 cals are weaksauce

[shut wren]

Those are 7.62s

F4f has 12.7s

bigger size more pen

[maiden citrus]

half inch, all freedom

[frigid karma]

i even my p26 with like one 50cal

[maiden citrus]

for you see if you have less than half an inch, less than half is freedom

[frigid karma]

still lost that game because teammates dont know how to bomb thigns

ah, oh well

[shut wren]

Get A-36 if you dont have it

[maiden citrus]

if you only have one third freedom, how you expect to boom

[frigid karma]

ram

[shut wren]

aw yes great times

Where mfs dont know how to pull away

[frigid karma]

still find it weird why ramming isnt considered a kill

the spirits of kamikaze pilots are mad

[shut wren]

Big snail let us kamikaze tanks

please

[maiden citrus]

isn't ramming and surviving considered a kill

[shut wren]

Nope

[maiden citrus]

it was used a few times historically

[shut wren]

Only if you did some damage

[frigid karma]

ramming and dying isnt

[maiden citrus]

good

[shut wren]

You gotta do some damage first

anywyas

[frigid karma]

aand this is a loss

[shut wren]

for ground get the M10 and m18 gmc

rip

This man has more money than me

Teach me your ways of how to save money

[frigid karma]

bro i just started

[maiden citrus]

On 10 May 1945 over Okinawa, Marine First Lieutenant Robert R. Klingman and three other pilots of VMF-312 climbed to intercept an aircraft they identified as a Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu ("Nick") twin-engined heavy fighter flying reconnaissance at 25,000 feet (7,600 m), but the "Nick" began climbing higher. Two of the FG-1D Corsairs ceased their pursuit at 36,000 feet (11,000 m), but Marine Captain Kenneth Reusser and his wingman Klingman continued to 38,000 feet (12,000 m), expending most of their .50 caliber ammunition to lighten their aircraft. Reusser scored hits on the "Nick's" port engine, but ran out of ammunition, and was under fire from the Japanese rear gunner. Klingman lined up for a shot at a distance of 50 feet (15 m) when his guns jammed due to the extreme cold. He approached the "Nick" three times to damage it with his propeller, chopping away at his opponent's rudder, rear cockpit, and right stabilizer. The Toryu spun down to 15,000 feet (4,600 m) where its wings came off. Despite missing five inches (13 cm) from the ends of his propeller blades, running out of fuel and having an aircraft dented and punctured by debris and bullets, Klingman safely guided his Corsair to a deadstick landing.

[frigid karma]

its called playing reserve only

[shut wren]

I could barly save 40k without wasting it on stupid shit

[frigid karma]

https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/32868323860823877

[shut wren]

mfs wont let me join

[frigid karma]

here's the replay if anyone's interested

[shut wren]

Repair cost hella expenive

[maiden citrus]

dauntless

good choice

[shut wren]

lots of boom

and freedom

[shut wren]

Add me We should grind US together

[frigid karma]

@maiden citrus

it was actually 3, the fourth one was a later kill

still pretty cool tho

[shut wren]

Mfs actually use the I-16 type 5

[frigid karma]

anyways, no more wt

[shut wren]

but yes or nah

[frigid karma]

i DM'd you

[shut wren]

gotchu

[maiden citrus]

the chonker flies freely

[shut wren]

me and Qwerty will grind our way into Top tier

Hopefully

[frigid karma]

@rapid junco

[rapid junco]

[maiden citrus]

that's only a joke

[rapid junco]

Hmm

[frigid karma]

bush thought brazilian was a number

like million, billion, etc

[rapid junco]

Just like Google?

[jagged monolith]

Welcome "South Joseon Blasting Collective"
A very unfortunate translation of Korea Explosives Group.

[jagged monolith]

This little incident is why Hanwha is named Hanwha and not Hanguk Hwayak. It has become a minor meme on the KRNet, and I hope my translation to english of a mistranslation gets the message across as well as I could in Korean.

[delicate beacon]

Still no mails back

[manic latch]

Italian Midget subs and manned torps

[glass plank]

Posting this because i think its neat but also double checking the accuracy of it. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974954929661825057/1071905336056893560/FB_IMG_1675632488053.jpg

[manic latch]

I will be honest

Someone is posting this like

Every week or 2 days

Its turning to Texas flooding herself for range level

[glass plank]

Huh. Okay. Fair enough. My bad. Forgiveness please for this lurker.

[glass plank]

Also that's a thing?

[eternal veldt]

When your guns don't have enough elevation for the range, flooding causes the ship to list, providing higher elevation.

Unfortunately, Texas' tidbit is now repeated ad nauseam,where we keep hearing the same stuff every week or two.

[delicate beacon]

I'm more surprised her FC was able to get a solution that way.

[glass plank]

Ah okay okay I know what you mean then fair enough

[eternal veldt]

It's about as bad as hearing Piorun's myth

No standards on my feed today

Bleh, snow covered Victory instead, then

Ship Model of the Month

Unknown French prisoners in Britain during the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars created this model, made mainly of mutton bone, between 1793 and 1815.

Using discarded bones from their rations, French captives created a variety of objects to sell at markets. Some prisoners were known to have worked in teams under a British officer to sell models for a more lucrative price that enabled them to purchase additional materials, extra food and tobacco.

After their release, many of the French sailors continued their model work, joining the established bone and ivory souvenir trade in French ports.

[alpine onyx]

When your guns get outranged by the German predreads

ftfy

Also that Victory pic is mine now, thank you

[eternal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/poi-yuudachi-theft-gif-22854108

[fierce sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJMP3lGMQQw

[desert agate]

Afaik it did indeed happen

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1622621946176237569

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#OTD in 1991, an F-14 from VF-1 shot down an Iraqi Mil Mi-8 during the Persian Gulf War. It was the last air-to-air kill scored by a U.S. Navy Tomcat and the only one over a helicopter. A victory mark representing the helicopter was stenciled onto the F-14. #FlyNavy

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2023, 3:43 PM

[strong plank]

funny training leopard II

[manic latch]

Challenger one doesnt have barrel

T-72 Fahrschulpanzer

[manic latch]

Polish version

[frigid karma]

doing some research into the bonus army of 1932 i found that a lot of sources disagree on whether it was 6 or 5 tanks

and i still can't find any pics or info of which tanks exactly they were

[shut wren]

Take a dive in the war thunde forums

Find some good shit there

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1622420231451721729

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

During World War II, submariners accounted for fewer than 2 percent of all U.S. Navy personnel but were responsible for 60 percent of all Japanese tonnage sunk.
#SubSunday

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2023, 2:21 AM

[manic latch]

I wonder how much fucking percentage AA crews took on navy personel

[frigid karma]

reading about race riots on vietnam war aircraft carriers is super interesting

goes way deeper than just Stop Our Ship

Constitution straight up had a borderline mutiny

“In July fires were started on the Forrestal and Ranger, the eighteenth instance of sabotage aboard the latter vessel,

[deep apex]

Oh yeah they were bad

[shut wren]

Theres a certain point where maybe you gotta look at the security of said ranger

[frigid karma]

i mean, if the security also hates the war

[shut wren]

Off to Gulag

Or alctraz

[deep apex]

There's a segment of a news report who was interviewing Vietnam protestors that showed a WW2 veteran who was protesting the war saying "I was in WW2 brother. I served for years. I know what it's about."

https://youtu.be/QISY1nNCwVg

It's in here

[frigid karma]

@desert agate

gallipoli, two aussies pose with captured turkish sniper

[shut wren]

They just had to leave the bushes on?

[tough quail]

[ivory ridge]

[spiral cedar]

Average random redname

[deep apex]

We don't claim this man tf

This man is in a league all of his own

[jagged monolith]

🫡

[sullen canyon]

Wait why is their a meme here in #history

This is also why I switched from red to blue myself

[deep apex]

I'm not letting this dude drag me down with him

[frigid karma]

Bro has ultranationalism in his bio

At least he’s honest about it kekw

[jagged monolith]

Hmmm

I can’t even see what the meme is tr you ng to say

[deep apex]

animesexual
Boi if you don't getcho-

[desert agate]

Must be 3rd division

Far too clean for 1st or second

Uniforms also seem a bit odd

Where's their webbing

im trying to find the image source and all i get are people talking about cannabis

bro what

[frigid karma]

weed helps you hit those 360 noscopes better

[desert agate]

i dont think im going to find any useful information on that pic tbh

if i had to guess its staged

[frigid karma]

https://www.thecannachronicles.com/cannabis-camouflage-1916/

This also has a lot more pictures about cannabis in ww1

[desert agate]

i dont care about cannabis i just want to know what unit theyre from

see

that australian is wearing a more australian uniform

darker colour

definitely a weird picture

the hats arent out of place

gonna stay with saying its probably 3rd division

[frigid karma]

ww1 cameras aren't the best quality + fucky lighting

[jagged monolith]

What the fuuuck spon

[desert agate]

what

[jagged monolith]

http://world.kbs.co.kr/service/news_view.htm?lang=e&Seq_Code=175672
Good.

It is an expression of confusion; you are very interested in knowing where these units come from, but I cannot discern the motivation.

[desert agate]

because the uniforms seem odd

and i want a date

and a unit

im going to guess its shortly after 3rd divisions arrival

but im really not sure

[frigid karma]

he's an aussie?

he's interested in what his countrymen did at gallipoli

[jagged monolith]

I know I don't go looking into every little uniform KLA wore.

But maybe that's just me.

[frigid karma]

then he's just more passionate, ig

@desert agate https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/G00377

found a more official source

Two Anzac soldiers stand on either side of a captured Turkish sniper. Turkish snipers sometimes concealed themselves in bushes for camouflage. This scene could depict the capture of a Turkish sniper described in a letter from 1763 Private (Pte) Arthur Greenwood, 8th Battalion, Royal Victoria (RV) Hospital, Netley, Hampshire, to his family, dated 16 February 1916. Pte Greenwood's letter was written in response to his parents having seen a photograph of himself and another Anzac, identified by Pte Greenwood as "G. Clifton NSW" (possibly 1930 Pte George Clifton, 8th Battalion, later 5th Pioneer Battalion), escorting a camouflaged Turkish sniper. Pte Greenwood wrote: "That Black you see in the picture was concealed in the scrub decorated as you see him you could not see him in daytime he being exactly like a bush..." The sniper had been hiding in scrub for some time -- "He was getting a lot of our men all the time" -- before Pte Greenwood and Pte Clifton disabled him at dusk. Pte Greenwood noted that at least two photographs exist of the scene. However, the authenticity of this photograph remains uncertain. Charles Bean often drew attention to its uncertain origins. He wrote of it as "a complete fake. It was taken at Imbros. The Australians are from the Field Bakery, and the Turk is a prisoner from the camp there."

turns out, it may have been a fake as you said

[desert agate]

figured the uniforms were too clean

and no webbing

first division though so i was wrong on that

[jagged monolith]

Interesting stuff that goes way over my head lol

[desert agate]

Bean is pretty trustworthy

he wrote the official history of the war and was probably on Imbros or near it at the time

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/02/06/freedom-class-littoral-combat-ship-marinette-delivers-to-navy

[thorn trail]

Wait iirc didn't they plan to shut down the LCS program?

[desert agate]

they cancelled all future orders but ships that had been started are being completed

[chilly osprey]

Yep. This is the third to last Freedom, afterwards that yard will be delivering Constellation-class frigates, the first of which is already under construction

[manic latch]

These are last of their kind

[eternal veldt]

@desert agate

[desert agate]

pretty bote

[eternal veldt]

"bote"?

my guy, that's your waifu

[desert agate]

yes

the prettiest bote

[manic latch]

The last Typhoon class, Dmitry Donskoi has been decommissioned

Pls make it a museum pls make it a museum pls

[desert agate]

they wont

too expensive

since the nuclear reactor needs to be removed by cutting the hull apart

then replacing it with dummy hull

[manic latch]

[desert agate]

and then you need somewhere to keep it

and then someone to maintain it

just not worth it for nuke subs

especially not for a country like russia which no doubt has better things to spend its money on right now

[manic latch]

Speaking of

Did Royal Navy handled the scrapping problem of their nuclear subs?

Or are they still planning

From 2022 https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1562544/royal-navy-nuclear-submarines-scrapped

Why it's that hard to scrap nuclear ships?

[desert agate]

You need to figure out what to do with the reactor

Apparently there's 20 nuclear subs sitting in Faslane awaiting scrapping

[manic latch]

Can't just dug under somewhere with anti radiation walls etc?

[desert agate]

Britain has some really complicated land ownership laws

[thorn trail]

Just put it on one of those small islands in the middle of the ocean that Britain still has /j

[mystic basin]

Pull a napoleon

[shut wren]

Tanks

[manic latch]

Leclerc XLsmh with Scorpion? Protection system

Fucking loved it. Really reminds me of T-80BVM style

[tough quail]

im glad everyone decided to do yuge side armor bricks into slats in the rear

the aesthetic is rad

[frigid karma]

This certainly puts scherzo in a different light

[tough quail]

nw imagine what happens when rodney gets her hands on bisko

[frigid karma]

"PUT ON THE SUFFOLK COSTUME AND BEND OVER"

[strong plank]

"the bleating will continue until morale improves"

[shrewd pecan]

bleating?

[manic latch]

Crying of a sheep

[frigid karma]

Also a pun on beating

[shrewd pecan]

man I was just surprised to see that was a actual word

[manic latch]

caterwauling

[fierce sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odG4GK7JNdw

[spiral cedar]

What missile is that

[shrewd pecan]

harpoon

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/RyszardJonski/status/1622974415024664576

Junsupreme (@RyszardJonski)

According to DefencepointGr - Rheinmetall Landsysteme GmbH (RLS) is proposing the advanced Lynx IFV for the Indian Army , and offer is accompanied by a technology transfer.
Rheinmetall says the Lynx may also have a third virtual crew member using AI.
https://t.co/D8A12fcPMq

Twitter · Feb 7, 2023, 3:03 PM

[tough quail]

"please god someone buy this piece of shit we're begging"

[subtle prawn]

Somebody did, it was Hungary

[frigid karma]

Imagine getting into a firefight with isis rebels and the server tell you chatgpt is overloaded

[spice vortex]

😹

[shrewd pecan]

are they just replacing the vehicle commander with a AI trained to spot targets

[tough quail]

uh oh

china devastates the indian military by just putting cardboard boxes around their tank turrets

[shrewd pecan]

Perhaps the Philippines was onto something

[shrewd pecan]

In regards to AI spotting for vehicles

[frigid karma]

AI can do a lot of things but spot things well ain’t one of them

Hence why we still do those stupid captchas

[desert agate]

guys hear me out

AI loader

[frigid karma]

Say

[shrewd pecan]

Yeah I think that’s something that should be a thing eventually

[frigid karma]

When is that book with the excerpt about marines fooling darpa coming out

[shrewd pecan]

Replacing tank commanders with it, obviously no

[frigid karma]

You know

The somersault/metal gear box/fir tree thing

[shrewd pecan]

I mean that’s why you have humans working alongside the AI

For the cases in which AI cannot account for human creativity

[manic latch]

I don't trust AI when it comes to identification of Allied and enemy troops

May pull an ED-209

[shrewd pecan]

I mean that’s when the human operator overrides the AI

[manic latch]

So which one failed worse

Lynx or Ajax?

Maybe X is unlucky name

Sorry Abrams

[shrewd pecan]

Lynx has gotten actual buyers

Ajax’s only real success is it developments for the US

[ivory ridge]

in what way is lynx a failure

[shrewd pecan]

It hasn’t been plagued with issues like Ajax as well

[ivory ridge]

like currently its only real competitor is the CV90

[shrewd pecan]

yeah

[manic latch]

You know speaking of

Isn't it kinda odd Bradley replacement is like

Unknown

There was OMFV but it died

I don't consider MPF replacement until they slap an autocannon

Oh wait nvm I think OMFV is still alive

GCV died OMFV started

[shrewd pecan]

MPF isn’t a replacement

It’s a completely different requirement

In regards to the brad replacement the army keeps putting out trials and can’t really find anything to replace the Bradley to their requirements

The first two programs for this was to be fair unrealistic or idiotic (I don’t know how we went from the Bradley replacement has to fit in a C-130 to 70 ton super Bradley)

[tough quail]

i mean

the lynx's only real competitor is the cv90

but the Cv90 has been sold to everyone under the sun

as opposed to

hungary

and just hungary

[shrewd pecan]

Yeah but the CV-90s been around for three decades horse

[spiral cedar]

Uh huh, shells designed and issued before Yamato was even completed. Definitely meant specifically for them. Yup.

[shrewd pecan]

where it’s been able to grow and mature as a platform

vs Lynx which is brand new and just getting customers

[tough quail]

its only customer was three years ago

[shrewd pecan]

yeah and it’s currently competing in multiple competitions

[tough quail]

and as far as im aware nobody else is very interested, its just rheinmetall pitching it to them

[shrewd pecan]

Tho in regards to the Bradley replacement

the Bradley is going to keep chugging along likely no matter what even if a replacement is chosen

It’s not really like it’s all that outclassed by the competition rn

[manic latch]

Omfv tests does look cool ngl

[ivory ridge]

is the leclerc a failure because it was sold to just the UAE while the leopard 2 was sold to 90% of europe?

it's a dumb claim

[manic latch]

Tho Leclerc hasn't been build since 2008

[tough quail]

i mean, yeah kinda

things can be good and still fail anyway

[manic latch]

YF-23

Ok it had some problems still

[ivory ridge]

but kremlin asked which was worse between the ajax and the lynx

[tough quail]

given nexter pretty much got bought out by germans too

yeeeeaaah

[ivory ridge]

the lynx is a commercial """failure"""

the ajax is a

failure failure

[frigid karma]

look at this terrifying instrument of war

no wonder the USN built 16 inch guns for them

[spiral cedar]

She did outlive the battleship Yamato, so

[strong plank]

last I checked you can't use MPF to carry infantry

[shrewd pecan]

Depends are the infantry in or outside the vehicle?

[strong plank]

true

[maiden citrus]

lmao

[strong plank]

bradley replacement alignment chart when

[ivory ridge]

wtf greece has 105mm armed 2a6s

????

https://preview.redd.it/53wp7bnqslb21.jpg?auto=webp&s=f5afa8da40dfc3ec8c3690b31ad2f1b71867b003

[shrewd pecan]

How all maneuver warfare should be done

[shrewd pecan]

what

[strong plank]

"an adequately fueled and armed toyota hilux can be a bradley replacement"

[strong plank]

must be cold out

[frigid karma]

is it possible to fire a javelin while on a bicycle

[shrewd pecan]

Is that shit meant to be a urban warfare vehicle or some shit

Ah I see

The L7s for training

[strong plank]

makes sense?

[shrewd pecan]

idk they have tons of 105 in storage so

They’re the eternal M48 operators alongside the Koreans and Turks

[strong plank]

wait the koreans still use m48s

[shrewd pecan]

yes

I have no idea what’s going on with K2 procurement beyond the poles seem to be buying the entire next production batch

[spiral cedar]

Ah yes, Yamato’s main guns (which have somehow gained 0.1” of diameter) with a 40s firing cycle can only fire once for every 3 times that Iowa’s main guns with a 40s firing cycle can fire

[shrewd pecan]

Clearly you do not know of the Iowas magical autoloaders

[spiral cedar]

I would certainly not want to be getting firing solutions from the SG search radar when there’s a perfectly good Mark 3 fire control radar sitting aloft and pointed at the enemy

[shrewd pecan]

people assuming the search radar does everything

[maiden citrus]

it searches

for the solution to the problem you're currently having

[spiral cedar]

Deutschland is a BC now

[ivory ridge]

truly

[manic latch]

Altay is buying it's transmission irrc

[frigid karma]

it grew a .1 inch after the type 3 shell blew up

[spiral cedar]

Hey, did you know that 2559 < 2500? Amazing

[spring briar]

[shrewd pecan]

The transmission that doesn’t work so they keep using German ones?

Altay is a K2 development tho I’m not sure how much Korean industry is involved in producing it

[spiral cedar]

1 hit 1 kill. Also Johnston survived 3 but shhhh

[tough quail]

im not sure korea even remembers turkey exists right now

after getting every customer under the sun after russia started doing a little trolling

[spiral cedar]

South Korea’s sending rescue teams to help in Turkey right now

So, they do

[tough quail]

i mean from an arms industry standpoint ofc

[shrewd pecan]

I feel like those are rather particular words to describe a war of cultural genocide and mass rape of a country and people tho I’ll won’t expand on that further here

[tough quail]

yes tato im aware committing warcrimes in ukraine is bad but you're also supposed to dance around the topic

you sure taught me a lesson

[shrewd pecan]

man it’s like referring to the Armenian genocide as the Turkish being silly

[alpine onyx]

Back to Deutschland being a battlecruiser

Instead of her true designation

Intercontinental coastal defense ship

smh

[maiden citrus]

I thought douchelund was a country

[tough quail]

ah yes

[shrewd pecan]

tho I’ll drop it there

[tough quail]

deutschland, proudly defending france and polands coast

[spiral cedar]

[maiden citrus]

oh dear

[alpine onyx]

Can have Deutschland patrol Italy's and the US East coast, in one trip, operating from Germany

:D

[tough quail]

my blessed girls

[maiden citrus]

coastal defense ships are based

[tough quail]

you can defend my coast bby

[tough quail]

it has incredibly high strategic value please do not let norfolk and newport news blow up

[spring briar]

The first ships with smokeless powder guns were coastal defence ships
Thus, every big gun warship after them are their offspring

[shrewd pecan]

ah

[maiden citrus]

remember for that one ship design contest

[tough quail]

broke: fast battleship
woke: super mega ultra turbo coastal defense ship

[maiden citrus]

where I made a super Väinämöinen

[spring briar]

Say hello to your grandpa, Iowa

[maiden citrus]

what if had more gun and more armor

[spring briar]

So a pre dread?

[maiden citrus]

thickened the armor and gave it cleveland style 105mms arrangement

on like 500 more tons

[spring briar]

[subtle prawn]

Last I read, they supplied something for the Altay tank they were developing

[maiden citrus]

was probably like 2 years ago so I';ll never find the file

but I did send it to horse so they might remember

[shrewd pecan]

The altay is built off of technology transfers from the K2 so it’s not surprising

[spring briar]

Maka

[spring briar]

🌭

[maiden citrus]

[spring briar]

Iéna genuinely looks good

[maiden citrus]

true

[spiral cedar]

[ivory ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/430896709812486154/1046163136702599198/live_soppy_reaction.gif

[frigid karma]

[manic latch]

Isn't she literally K2 but Turk

Looks wise too

[frigid karma]

You get to make out with one irl famous shipgirl

But

You also have to make out with someone on quora who defends them

[tough quail]

ah yes i forgot iowa was the like

[frigid karma]

Who do you pick

[tough quail]

batshit insane 1945 lion proposals

[shrewd pecan]

There’s quite a few differences

Tho she is built off of the K2

[manic latch]

Tho one cool feature of Altay is you can slap her turret to Leo2 hull

[spring briar]

What if we kissed on the bow of Dupuy de Lome

[frigid karma]

That’s a safety hazard

[spiral cedar]

Iowa STS armor belt

[shrewd pecan]

That’s just for testing

[spring briar]

[shrewd pecan]

They don’t want to use the German engines and other items due to export restrictions and sanctions on Turkey by Germany

[spiral cedar]

Now the 14” guns get free supercharges ig

[manic latch]

Another lesson why relying on Nations for weapons ain't good

You can cripple an air force by deciding to not sell them planes anymore

If they are reliant

[spring briar]

Démocratie pics (best kind of D pics)

Who said french pre dreads are ugly

[shrewd pecan]

I mean it depends since one nation can’t make everything

[manic latch]

What US for example need from others for weapons

Dutch chips?

Uhh

German barrels?

[shrewd pecan]

Almost all of the USs ejection seats are made by the British

[spring briar]

French thermals

[shrewd pecan]

The F-35 uses foreign made parts as well

[manic latch]

Oh yeah Chinese part accident

[shrewd pecan]

Look around enough and you’ll find something in every US system that’s made abroad

In regards to Turkey foreign suppliers have often had a double standard

🤨 for example the Germans being willing to sell certain systems to the Russians while being unwilling to do so to Turkey

[manic latch]

Turkey was pulling stuff in Syria back then dunno

[shrewd pecan]

So was Russia

[manic latch]

And US ye

Germany sanction Turkey some reason

Feels personal

[shrewd pecan]

I wouldn’t really put the USs involvement on the same level as turkeys and Russias

[manic latch]

🦅

+100$ added to your account

[shrewd pecan]

Up to you if you believe if the US should still be in Syria tho it’s intervention is in a different context compared to turkeys for example

[spiral cedar]

They did have firing solutions at 37,000 yards but they held fire until about 22,000. Where did 30,000 come from

[manic latch]

I don't know the context of Syria anymore

There was Isis but it's gone silent

Now there is uhh

No clue

Like you would expect Us and Turkey to work together as NATO for Syria

But no

[spring briar]

Assad vs rebels

[shrewd pecan]

For Turkey

[manic latch]

See Turkey used to support Rebels but now it's getting friendly with government

[shrewd pecan]

It’s issues with the kurds alongside wanting a say in the conflicts end

[spiral cedar]

navyweaps

[shrewd pecan]

and no it’s not

It’s still very much has its rebel proxies

[manic latch]

Didn't they supported Free Syrian army

Huh

[shrewd pecan]

They still do

[spiral cedar]

Cross…T…by turning sharper…what??

[shrewd pecan]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_involvement_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

[manic latch]

[spring briar]

Such a sad sight

[manic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-gif-22199181

[spiral cedar]

Mm, yes, torpedoes, the best test of armor

[sullen canyon]

But could it handle AP shells?

[spring briar]

Yes

Most definitely

The sheer thickness allowed that

And the metal defects are often overstated

[spiral cedar]

[frigid karma]

Warships dogfighting

[sullen canyon]

Uh

[frigid karma]

Warships dogfighting

[sullen canyon]

What

[spiral cedar]

Gotta love sliding at full speed broadside-on

[sullen canyon]

What about the rangefinder

[deep apex]

You still looking at that?

[frigid karma]

Kansen d-d-drifto??!!!

[sullen canyon]

I mean don't they exist during that time?

[frigid karma]

Hornet best armor in pacific

[sullen canyon]

Besides broadsiding only works for like old wooden ships though

Like

[frigid karma]

?

[sullen canyon]

Like during the Golden Age if Piracy right?

[spring briar]

22cm high angle coastal defence mortar from 1864 vs Yamato deck armor

[frigid karma]

Wdym broadsiding only works when

[spring briar]

Next tempesta main gun

[spiral cedar]

Iowa then opened up with 27 rounds of 16-inch/50 caliber shells, and then expended 50 rounds of 5-inch shells (USS Iowa 1948)

Ah yes, when you fire fewer main battery shells (27) than it took Bismarck to hit Hood (40), at a ship with empty powder magazines, and people take it as saying you can’t sink anything

[spring briar]

[manic latch]

[spiral cedar]

I like how Iowa’s forward bulkhead is considered belt armor now
2 inch deck eh? also 13.4 inch deck?? Who even came up with that number
This shortchanges the thickness of both Yamato’s (26”) and Iowa’s (17” on 2.5”) turret faces
A few other details wrong but w/e

[deep apex]

ARM Cuitláhuac (E 01), formerly USS John Rodgers (DD-574)

[spring briar]

E•0I

[deep apex]

Aka, the last of the Fletchers to be retired and scrapped.

[spring briar]

*So far

[deep apex]

I figured people would've figured that out

[spiral cedar]

88mm supersonic (wow what a rarity) > 5" guns

[strong plank]

Can you even call them a wehrb if they misspell Bismarck

[spiral cedar]

Of course

It's a badge of honor

[alpine onyx]

That reads more like parody

[spiral cedar]

Given the rest of the answer, it’s unfortunately very sincere

[spring briar]

Someone pls add a speech bubble to this one

[spiral cedar]

[eternal veldt]

End-on fire is not optimal naturally.

[manic latch]

Ok I realised image had bad emoji

[eternal veldt]

Firing to broadside ensures the maximum of guns "unmasked" on a target.

[spring briar]

Near penetrating shell is better but this rusty DP shell is for specific hot takes

[spiral cedar]

Gif version

[spring briar]

[eternal veldt]

Is it not? End on fire IIRC is not good for dispersion.

[spiral cedar]

Richy asked me for this

(Well, not me specifically, but not many other people make these)

It wasn’t a response to your comment Silver

[eternal veldt]

Okay, thought I was being dumb.

[spring briar]

I didn’t mean to make you feel bad silver

You are not actually a rusty 12” DP shell

Are you?

[eternal veldt]

Maybe I am rusty

[spring briar]

12” DP without cap

[maiden citrus]

yankee no brim???

[spring briar]

[strong plank]

yo no cap

[spring briar]

manual labour

The staple of any navy

[lone bloom]

Why must you spell labor with a u

[frigid karma]

part of the british belgium alliance

[delicate beacon]

Because that's how labour is spelled.

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/02/07/first-fighters-land-aboard-indias-new-aircraft-carrier-ins-vikrant

[cinder escarp]

Amusingly they landed/launched the plane that will never serve on it

(because it's crap, even though its one of the only planes that will fit)

[shrewd pecan]

I mean the airframe might be crap but I'm surprised at how good its electronics are

tho that's mainly since there imported

[cinder escarp]

India has a long partnership with Israel in that manner, which does mean a lot of their electronics are surprisingly good

[shrewd pecan]

EL/M-2032 radar, Elbit's HMDs and the ability to take Litening targeting pods

tho its rather impressive they actually got the thing to land a carrier

[cinder escarp]

It's very light (depending on exact config/model, less than a MiG-21), has lots of wing surface. Delta-wing low speed control issues have long been solved by fly-by-wire (the Mirage 2000s fly wonderfully well at low speed).

[shrewd pecan]

man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Prachand#/media/File:HAL_Prachand_during_a_flight.jpg

I'm trying to remember what game for some reason had this thing in it

ah

"Bombs:
Precision-guided munition
2 × HSLD-250 (planned)
Cluster munition
Unguided bomb
2 × Prefragmented Bomb 250 (planned)[86][87]
Grenade launcher"

there doing the Russian thing

[deep apex]

Maybe you guys shouldn't have taxed the ink to shit

[frigid karma]

hes dutch

[deep apex]

Damn, y'all supported us and still use their dialect?

[frigid karma]

he's european

[deep apex]

the Dutch offered support during the American Revolution

In case you haven't figured out

I'm kidding

[delicate beacon]

I'm not using their dialect. I just dont use yours.

[deep apex]

Labor
Labour

Same fucking thing let's be real

[cerulean ice]

you are saying that about a language that can't even decide how to pronounce the letter "a"

[deep apex]

Even in both it sounds different based on the word

[cerulean ice]

it is different depending on the word - exactly, that is the joke

[deep apex]

That's a...weird joke I suppose

[frigid karma]

fox, you showed up in history twice in two days

[deep apex]

But whatever

[frigid karma]

do you need to see a doctor

this is highly irregular

[cerulean ice]

in the context of "same fucking thing"

anyways nice shells

[humble mulch]

Fox are you doing alright

You don’t have rabies or anything right?

[frigid karma]

Tea, stop asking people if they possess the traits your fetish desires

I know you have a thing for crazy bitches

[shut wren]

Ayo orange man Caught in 4k

@frigid karma You hopping on?

[frigid karma]

im busy

and dont ping me on a public server for this lmfao

[shut wren]

My bad

[frigid karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbv40ENU_o&ab_channel=TheTomLehrerWisdomChannel

This song is a banger

[eternal veldt]

Ah yes, phonetic consistency

The thing that doesnt exist in English

[frigid karma]

caption:

[shut wren]

First kill:balloon

[manic latch]

A-10 is incapable of that

45,000 ft max

Need at least 10k ft more

[shut wren]

Missiles

[shrewd pecan]

What type of AIM-9 are you flinging that’s able to climb 20 clicks

[shut wren]

The new mf,Range from 0.6 to 22 miles

[frigid karma]

upwards 22.2m?

[shrewd pecan]

They used the F-22 since it was the only aircraft in inventory able to climb that high

[jagged monolith]

Maneuvering and attacking that high is very difficult.

[desert agate]

F-15 can climb to 65'000

[frigid karma]

F-35 is also supposedly able to hit 60k

[jagged monolith]

Nein, it's same as f-16.

Wonderful fighter, but F-22 is definitely its superior in kinematics.

[shrewd pecan]

fair

I kept hearing the F-22 line repeated

[tough quail]

standard show of force

dudes went apeshit over it when mainstream media caught wind of the funny balloon so the big scary wunderjet shoots it down to calm people down

[frigid karma]

Same dudes then proceeded to complain about using missile to down balloon

Cant please em

[manic latch]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/the-soviets-built-bespoke-balloon-killer-planes-during-the-cold-war

[tribal mortar]

b-17 heresy edition

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/02/07/australias-first-nuclear-submarine-could-be-a-reality-in-30-years-former-pacom-commander-testifies

[desert agate]

Lmfao

Could be ready 20 years too late

[shut wren]

let me look over the funny manual,I remembered it said 22 miles

[ivory ridge]

~~thumbnail that looks taken from an esport or twitch news site tbh ~~

[shut wren]

Does say 22

[manic latch]

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/02/worlds-largest-submarine-drone-being-built-in-germany/

[ivory ridge]

your MUM

[hollow wind]

is it true that the spitfire mk1 e had a paint job like that in the bottom part of the wing

[manic latch]

I forget if someone posted this before but

I just love these

$Billions LASER Aircraft Carrier

[maiden citrus]

$Trillions HOT DOG condiment carrier is ready to beat china

[tough quail]

are the

Are the aircraft lasers too

[maiden citrus]

3d holographic aircraft

[autumn sorrel]

Sometime I do wonder, what kind of idiot fall for those kind of thumbnail and content, and then I remember how dumb human are

[tough quail]

we just had thousands of people rally against the US government for letting a chinese balloon spy on them

that thing they need a balloon for

[autumn sorrel]

Still don't get it why the balloon though?

[tough quail]

standard air defense probe

china does it like every two weeks with japan/korea with actual jets

the us is just ages away

[maiden citrus]

[autumn sorrel]

Based ig

[desert agate]

the human rights violations are not indeed based

[frigid karma]

it does make very nice historyfeels music though

[tough quail]

le ebin government hit squads owning those evil brown peasants

[desert agate]

more meant the whole uh

torture thing

[tough quail]

yeah

[manic latch]

[tough quail]

im glad they specified the breed of dog

[frigid karma]

i mean

the meme is specifically about him blasting Demon Hunter while blasting Bin Laden

[tough quail]

i thought she had four arms for a minute

[frigid karma]

it is effectively a limb since she can control it, yea

[maiden citrus]

sometimes it writes itself

[frigid karma]

although knowing wows smaland she should be considerably bloodthirstier

much bloodthirstier

[tough quail]

ill get the ketchup

[spiral cedar]

See, the way this is worded, it makes it seem like you should pick up the rifle instead

[tough quail]

and then you get a free mine too!

[spiral cedar]

[autumn sorrel]

I start to think Warthunder leaks are intentional

[ivory ridge]

this reminds me that i havent listened to that band in ages

i used to when i was playing wow back in legion

...while playing a demon hunter

pretty fitting

[tough quail]

10% stat boost

[ivory ridge]

i remember specifically listening to them while doing the Mage tower challenge

[spiral cedar]

[maiden citrus]

lol

'honor'

[ivory ridge]

kantai kessen moment

[autumn sorrel]

It is Asian thing, in some case, alive is actually worse than death

[remote monolith]

ah yes the honorable tradition of...despotic rule under a special societal class who can do everything without repercussions

[strong plank]

somehow the pfp makes it funnier

[remote monolith]

oh I'm sorry, what's that? The 'honorable tradition' Imperial Japan did was a total fabrication made up after the supposed period where they were created in?

[autumn sorrel]

Who do I blame for the samurai spirit weeb shit?

Like who spread the line of thinking?

[strong plank]

Also about the music thing

[maiden citrus]

the japanese did

[strong plank]

Doesn’t South Korea blast kpop towards the dprk as a psychological tactic

I seem to remember reading about that a while back

[remote monolith]

him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamamoto_Tsunetomo

[autumn sorrel]

They doing it like everyday

[remote monolith]

he was the guy who wrote about the bushido crap about a century after the actual sengoku period ended, and his book ended up getting adopted by Imperial Japan during WWII

[autumn sorrel]

Ah, samurai during Tokugawa Bakufu peace time. That's explain why the matchlock gun part was left out.

[remote monolith]

all the things about most Japanese samurai preferring death over living in shame are for the most part his idea, since as we know actual historical samurais were perfectly capable of selling themselves out to save themselves

[autumn sorrel]

tbf, when your entire social class system depend on taking someone else head to climb up the ladder, you will do anything to preserve your own neck first. I guess the stuck up honorable one get to stand out.

[remote monolith]

its more like Yamamoto's ideas created a nation wide amnesia of how samurais historically acted, which resulted in the fantasy where all samurais are honorable and prefer death over dishonor and reveres the blade etc etc

hence, this man is indirectly to blame for the modern phenomena of weebs

[maiden citrus]

I had to argue that in a different server actually

samurai were er... basically just nobles with bad attitude

to the point you get funny laws like 'it is illegal to sit on the road and kill anyone who comes by'

[autumn sorrel]

More like merc with superiority complex

[spring briar]

It’s a job like any other
Some people are just dicks

[remote monolith]

for the most part they were basically just European knights, being a class unto themselves with certain codes of conducts, but otherwise perfectly willing to do despicable things to their own advantage, and most of them being indifferent to contemptuous to people of lower classes. Basically, every warrior classes in history ever

[autumn sorrel]

But stand by the side of the road and kill anyone who come by is technically legal right?

[maiden citrus]

in a way, but as stated they were basically their own class, so essentially samurai were the worst case scenario nobles people often attribute to european society instead

[frigid karma]

300 years down the line you're gonna have modern PMCs and bodyguards for the rich seen as modern perceptions of knights and samurai

[autumn sorrel]

Is "War on the sea" a good game to buy?

I seen some playthrough and I am interest in it but somehow the ASW part is putting me a bit off

[remote monolith]

speculative, but these days, with emphasis on soldiers instead of warriors and greater civilian oversights on the military, that seems unlikely unless something drastic occurs

[frigid karma]

Fair takes

I wonder what effect the internet will have on historiography 1, 200 years down the line

Hell, even 50

“Hi, I’d like to do research on this 200 year time period of this ancient tribe”
is handed 5 or 6 books
“Hi, I’d like to do research on these 24 hours of [current event]”
is handed 80 petabytes

[shut wren]

“I would like to reasearch the war thunder leaks”

[manic latch]

Depends

It's like Civ games

Either hit or pass for many people

[spiral cedar]

Subs are broken and I hope you like aircraft

I don’t play the campaign mode, just the custom tactical battles

If that’s something you like, then it can be fun

If you want the campaign, you may want a rebalance mod if subs and planes aren’t your preference

[frigid karma]

Sounds like wows

Or what the ijn are saying at 45

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1623414927594496003

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

In 1967, the amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LPH-2) experimented with a white flight deck to test if the change in color would reduce the temperature in the electronic, office and living spaces, as well as better facilitate flight operations at night. #WarshipWednesday

Twitter · Feb 8, 2023, 8:14 PM

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/JanesINTEL/status/1623381147920080896

Janes (@JanesINTEL)

Assembly of 1,000th F-35 begins https://t.co/mGf9WU3X5M

Twitter · Feb 8, 2023, 6:00 PM

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=108900

https://twitter.com/JonHawkes275/status/1623332456244867075

Jon Hawkes (@JonHawkes275)

Some useful angles of the first K2PL tanks in Poland, courtesy of Facebook (https://t.co/tZG5mHMJpc)

Likes

385

Twitter · Feb 8, 2023, 2:46 PM

[spiral cedar]

https://youtu.be/4Z7g7SSOS9s

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1623462476850380800

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

The Honduras-El Salvador "Football War" in 1969 was the last conflict with dogfights between piston engine fighters. Both sides used planes of World War II-era design. During one sortie, a Honduran Corsair shot down two Salvadoran Corsairs and a Mustang. #WarbirdWednesday

Twitter · Feb 8, 2023, 11:23 PM