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It looks like there's a problem with how the table gets the values for non-retrofitted ships. I don't know enough about curl to try and figure out how to fix that though.
It worked fine before the cargo update... after though. I haven't found a way to fix it yet :/
Ah, I mucked around for a bit trying to figure out what was broken. A few of the values didn't seem to be read from ships. I don't know where to find the ships table to figure out what's broken there, but maybe that helps?
ami and mami doesnt have oxy and ammo values
fixed
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Torpedoes
on this page it shows the torpedo speeds as 20,30,etc when in the datamine they're 1,2,3,etc
and the note to convert them to unit/s is also unhelpful since the devs don't use that as a metric
this makes it difficult to tell how large skills which effect torp speed (i168, duca, for example) are meant to be since duca's references the code speed decrease by 1
just wondering why torpedo speeds are listed in this way
because that's the units ship and plane speeds are in
we might standardize on units/s and add a note to skills
i don't know why the devs decided to use two different scales for speed, neither of which is units/s
@sweet shadow this one
hello for ark royal, her retrofit skill is not noted as retrofit
Destruction Bolt
on https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Sengoku_War-Band! it says you can receive Hatsuharus skin, not Isokazes. Iso's wiki page also doesn't have the skin posted in gallery yet.
gais, every other ship with Main Gun+1 has it listed in all parts of their barrage. Except for Kita
last I checked guns don't launch torpedos so I don't see how MGM+1 would be relevant to the torpedo part of the barrage 
It's relevant because all mgm+1 does is change the spawn time
its not wrong
I mixed it with the other
;suggest add a tab that has the ship's stock guns
Suggestion to stick to one naming convention for All Out Assaults in the "Limit Break Ranks" column of ships.
Most ships have it as "Gains Full Barrage" ->Vampire, Z23
Some have it as "Gains All Out Assault" -> Tashkent
and some have it as "Gains/Gained Special Barrage" -> Sirius, Avrora, Yuudachi
At 11-4 Hard Sendai doesn't have an hyperlink as the others have 
Same at 5-4 Hard
6-1 and 6-1 Hard
6-2 and 6-2 Hard 
top 10 lowest effort scams of all time
i'm sorry if this has been mentioned before but the lines for the 3rd anniversary skins haven't been added
no mention of the fact that hard mode gives 2x badges for the first clear of the day in the rerun versioN
naut has 0 oxygen on the wiki 
also on the "list of ships by stat" page the reload is scuffed for whatever reason on everyone
gangut quotes EN page seem to be forgotten?
do you have a screenshot?
not of wiki of nautilus
nevermind forgot I pulled her today
nope havent pulled any event ships besides reno 
is reload still messed up?
Which Ingraham skill is correct? Increase TRP by 50% of AA stat or increase AA by 50% of TRP stat?
Whatever it says on the wiki, and not ingame
Heee, why skill description mess up
If anybody here is able to edit the wiki pages, Prince of Wales' skill needs to be fixed. The wiki says that both of the buffs she gives to Eagle Union ships are 4.5%-12%. However, they are 5%-15% in game.
wiki right rawr
i thought the ingame was wrong on that one
so the in-game text is wrong then?
correct. references have been added to assign blame
oh wow reference system doesn't work with skills cargo page at all hmm
uhm, why italian swimsuits are missing from the big list?
meanwhile the USS event skins that comes after italian's are in the list 
is the big list meaning all skins page?
how come the JP patch notes page hasn't been updated since the last russian event 
Guess I forgot around that time, they are added now, along with the new bunnies.
JP got no patches anymore JP patchnotes guy went on vacation, nobody bothered to keep up the work on 2 patchlistings, it got abandoned.
Atleast it's more recent than our CN patchnotes ;P
the CN patchnotes page says to look at JP patchnotes 
it is not really that important anymore at least, as since EN is largely caught up, then whatever updates come there, come to EN without delay
We should probably look at just one patchnotes since we're kinda cau... ninja'd
unlike the past when systems such as air superiority or PR was being delayed
and for events I think the "Events" page is actually updated regularly?
couldn't you just make 1 patch notes page then, and have small sections per patch note as needed depending on what minor thing got added to CN/JP?
I for one, agree with that idea yeah.
are there even so many jp players that use the english wiki

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Affection#Morale
this is no longer tied to 2nd floor only since some time but seems like this page was too sneaky 😄
fixed, armor break is correct cuz one is chance to AB while the other is the value of AB
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Battleship_Guns?useskin=citizen
Surface dmg chart isnt visible
It's the skin, has low contrast with the background for the surface DPS columns.
that's your problem not ours
I didn't even know there was skins, tbh
it's probably a dark mode plugin for the browser
no, that's a specific URL and if you go to the page it'll show up as dark.
It's not a plugin.
Notice how the URL specifically says ?useskin=citizen

then it goes from not being the wiki's problem to just not my problem 
although it makes me wonder how tf that page is styled
it looks like somebody installed a skin called citizen for the MediaWiki install but didn't make sure it actually works. Makes me wonder how Amy found it
the skin is WIP
Lol
Does this not suffice: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_ASW_Equipment
I don't think there is a asw plane page specifically
is there an exact explanation how this was figured out?
i remember before it was said its based on oil cost,something changed?
i guessed a rough pattern
someone gave a counterexample so i edited it
but we didn't come up with an exact solution so it's still trash tbh
Images are not loading (shipgirl icon, art, gallery arts)
For example, London's page: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/London
Works fine here
can you check your browser console for errors?
the inspect thing, right?
yeah
yeah, its coming up with errors every time an image of some sort tries to load
whats the error
Failed to load resource: name of resource
net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
Some of them have ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT
Ngl I think the old layout's better
i prefer horizontal orientation cuz its easier to scan thru, but i dont see the merit of comparing it to its lower level versions.
there should be a search bar beneath the stats - and by typing in a ship name, the two stat bars should be aligned to easily compare. i would like that sortve feature
can you try force-refreshing via ctrl-f5 (if using Windows and chrome/firefox)
Mac equivalent is shift+command+r i think, lemme see if it works this time
hmmm
nope
I am not sure why you are getting these issues as images are served from CloudFlare
hmm
for example does https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images//e/e0/London.png work for you
Well that loads here in discord
nope not in browser
Welp.
Honestly idk if its something about the wifi network im on somehow blocking the images from loading
cuz im at college
Can't connect to the server (Safari)
Refused to connect (Chrome)
I'm almost 100% sure I used the wiki successfully last fall while at college
this has never happened before but then again i havent been on campus in a year-ish
well, last autumn it did not use Cloudflare for images
I added that literally 2 or 3 days ago
it is only images/audio though, everything else does not use CF
Yeah, only the images are not loading, and now that you say that i bet audio wont load either
I am not sure what to do about this, because the reason for using CF is that people in Australia and Oceania like @forest mantle are severely shafted by the fact that my server is in Paris
images load extremely slowly for them
Rip
Eh, I know what they all look like anyway 
I was just trying to look at skins, bluegill's specifically at the time of finding this problem
Perhaps so. RIP me
Q: what prompted the change to combine A/C and B/D stages?
just seems a bit more cluttered now even though it saves space
@rough frigate sadly CF DNS has no way to set something up like "if DNS requests come from ASN #...., return this, else return Cloudflare"
Rip
so I do not see a way to work around this :\
I will later think of something maybe
I personally never really wanted to rely on cloudflare but the image loading issue is noticeably severe for people far enough from Europe :\
wiki pages themselves are lightweight
Oki
hella weird to block cloudflare tbh
if your college is blocking stuff you could probably try using Google DNS (8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4) or Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1/1.0.0.1) to get around it
If the university is properly blocking restricted IPs then DNS requests to anything that’s not their DNS servers will get redirected to their DNS server, and the restricted IPs will be blocked on a firewall level
vpn or proxy :^)
or rather if they are blocking by IP, it does not matter if you use their resolvers or google/CF
since the resolved IP will likely be the same
VPN will be the best idea
On I-19's page (and probably some others) the closing > was placed before the rowspan property:
for other subs as well
❤️
Sidebug of reordering lvl 120 to the top, should fix it soonish
Should be fixed now
A: Condensing the page, reducing duplicate info like the intro texts, event rewards for one or the other, the map or shipdrops in 90% of cases, some people on the team complained the table had too much "white space" and was thus badly designed and underused, now it has less, less inclusion errors due to less items for the campaign maps, several errors where found lately on hard tabs since they are looked at less, with them not being seperate these don't exist or are easier to spot.
And I probably forgot a few more... but as always, feedback is welcome if you think something can be improved about it.
👍 I see ty
I'd just like to suggest something like this (please excuse the bad paint skills)
separate the requirements for normal/hard into columns
and then for the ship drops, use a similar thing but with rows
similar to how the ship drops are done
the row headers will be normal/hard
the column headers will be each ship
and for formatting, u could have multiple rows of ships
@hidden rain
this would make things clearer imo because I did get used to the old format
now when I look, I keep reading the info for normal mode rather than hard mode which takes me longer to read the info because it's not easy to quickly identify all the hard mode things
While that would be nice, the module doesn't really support an execution like that, not that I know off atleast... and the one guy that is well known with modules is long MIA.
i see, so it's not really possible to add another column to break up the info?
the ship thing could stay the same tbh, I thought it would just be more compact if it could be done like the ship drop pages
the wiki isn't that nice on mobile for me even before tho
still have to scroll to the side for tables
all my homies hate mobile
the thing is
we don't have to make it even worse
if its already bad
i am already very close to reversing the map template change
I got something for ships now, but it's very late now so I will implement that tomorrow.
I use desktop view on my phone, much better imo
Doesn't help editing and recent changes in mobile view is 100% unusable
@wheat solstice
did y'all change the ships wiki UI?
I dont like this new stat table for ships
some ships have this (langley)
while others have this (lusty)
which one have y'all choose?
looks like this to me
yes but what i mean is langley's wiki has the old Character image on the right, stats on the left while lusty has the new (?) huge picture of the character on the top, stats on the bottom
wait nevermind what the hell
you might need to do a bit of ctrl+f5
is your browser window less than 1420 pixels wide
nah nvm it's fine, i think what happens is lusty has a bigger resolution so she takes up more space, changing the zoom to 90% on my PC fixes it
doesn't happen a week ago though which is weird
I can't find Ibuki in the list of ships by stats. Am I mistaken somewhere?
Seems cargo got borked somehow, Friedrich is missing too apparently
Maybe there's a problem with research ships. Only 16/22 ships appear here. The missing ships are Izumo, Ibuki, Friedrich, Saint Louis, Monarch and Roon
Ibuki and Izumo missing
Yeah this applies to all pages populated by cargo, so no need to report it again
Main Screen 4 EX is missing from every translation (Aquila)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Iron_Blood
friedrich and u-47 missing
Bro
moment
should be fixed now
recreating the tables so a lot of stuff might not be working right now, should take about 2-3 minutes
Is this better for shipdrops? (Only applied it to A/C so far to test)
I think it does look better than before yeah 👍
btw is there no way to indent the info so that this stuff is all in a line? Ik you said adding another column isn't feasible but is indentation possible?
also for the gear, does this mean only the gear after HARD: drops in hard mode and none of the prior stuff or does it also include the prior stuff? It isn't too clear
Not that I know of, but modules are pretty much gibberish to me anyways. So if anyone actually understanding them is around, they might know a way?
First row is normal, second is hard.
ic ty
qwert which server do you play on
what's your ingame name
why are we talking in strikethrough, it's just Qwert
nice
if you talk in strikethrough it becomes magically invisible to mods so they don't kill you
no
I just have a habit of asking people of they play on avrora and then adding them
I guess one reason is I get to see people's dorms
anyone else know why the table for the ships by construction time is broken?
both of the tables on the construction page are broken actually
New charts for event drops feels extremely cluttered and confusing to look at, especially for the character drops, a main tab to toggle seeing the normal/hard mode might be better
or just using the old one
Can't visualize ship drop tables
should be fixed now
they said they wanted to combine the tabs together so there's less checking that has to be done. I think this is less cluttered than how they tried to do the combined modes before. I do agree it's more cluttered than it was when they were separate tabs but it doesn't seem like it will go back to that in the near future at least so this compromise is alright ig
any updates about the details of agir's armor break? tried asking in gph but no one seems to know
Well, most new events hard and normal shipdrops align, and even in older there's usually just some changes. Never realised ALL normal ships are different between normal and hard here, and I don't think other events have it like that.... unless I literally never noticed in 20 months O_O
I never look at normal mode drops to begin with xd. Only the event limited ship drops
.

I am very close to revert the change
pog, wiki images are working now for me
voiceline for ingra and nauti isn't up yet i guess?
both are up now. ||hopefully no mistake||
Thank you
not yet, just checked
It shows for me on mobile. But not in my laptop
Ouh
It doesn't show up in desktop views
yeah the desktop one i didn't see it
Honestly idk why. So need to wait for other wiki team i guess
take your time
on the Combat page for recon value, it should be included that the game takes the higher recon value between the two fleets
like its not calced with the two combined
portland wiki page is wrong 
also the beginner rewards page is wrong as well since it says the same thing
it is not wrong
the final mission only appears after you clear others
thus why it says "receive Portland after claiming victory"
because a mission to clear 2-1 will appear there, being the victory to be claimed
thats misleading
but i see
perhaps the wiki could include a note there somewhere that the requirement for this task only appears after completing all others, maybe
If that seaplane can really intercept planes may include it in the list
The list appears on every plane list page, inlcuding seaplanes
The alternativ name "Lützow" for Deutschland is writen incorrectly as Lutzow in the history section of her wiki-entry
Also why does it say Kreigsmarine instead of Kriegsmarine
Because it's not the German navy, but in fact Kreig's marine
The boats all belong to a guy named Craig
the ‘history’ sections are most certainly not things that get reviewed often
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Happy_Lunar_New_Year_2021#An_Shan.27s_Drawing_Book
Broken Images, also An Shan's page doesn't list this as a way to obtain her (Probably also applies to other ships)
Is the wiki supposed to look mobile like on smaller screens now?
Slightly bigger screen
13 inch screen
A 13 inch screen is really small so of course it's going to change the layout so everything is not squished together
Used to be the old layout hence why I am asking
Well it also depends on screen resolution and zoom
I'm experiencing an issue on the https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Ships_by_Weapon_Efficiency page. Trying to sort Slot 2 by max %, and every time I click to sort, it swaps the position of base, max, and max# instead of sorting
Actually, looks like the whole coding for the page is screwed up. See screenshot for more info
Right, I still had to fix that one after the whole wiki update screwed up cargo.
Page should be fixed now but let me know if any information on it is screwed up/wrong.
Looks good to me, thanks. If I see anything else I'll let you know.

Is there any specific reason for Bidder to be listed as "Acoustic Homing" when it's actually Normal*
Probably because the game says so in the gear lab.
huh, is there any gear that's listed as Normal* in game?
no, there is not
wiki makes those distinctions because game names them the same, but still has them have different stats
it might be that someone did not update it properly on the wiki, or is it that "cargo" thing again?
would it be possible to add dates to ship/gear pages e.g. when they go introduced/buffed etc?
ik it's not super important but combing through patch notes is kinda long and sometimes I can't easily find dates for other servers like JP or CN
same for when events are added to war archive
Seems its set up like regular torpedoes (who all have the same modifiers) to just show charastics, not the ammo type (which is a part of sub torpedoes). Involves bloody modules though so no promises if I can add the proper row :/
All I can say is good luck
Cuz it'll add a lot of relevant info to the page if ya manage it
That sounds like something well outside the scope of the corresponding wiki pages, to be honest
I see, fair enough
We do not really have a goal of keeping change logs
i usually see stuff like this at the bottom of wiki pages though like important dates
ic, yeah that's fair enough
As I see it, we are documenting the current state of the game so anything that ‘was’ is out of scope w
would a separate page with those dates be an option?
e.g. list of dates of important events
ik the patch notes kinda do that already but it's just not very easy to look through them
Oh, events are different, it is fine to have a history page for those
Since they are large scale stuff
But documenting stuff like stat changes for individual equipment etc.
Feels a bit too micro
Obviously, this is just my opinion and if majority of wiki contributors are in favour of keeping that data, I am not going to protest w
Not like I have ever played this game anyway
It's called wiki history...
Page edits history is horrible for this
You cannot really find anything there quickly
"Events" page already notes when each event ran on which server 
If you know which event introduced ship/gear - it's easy to check
We would probably be documenting smaller changes if the patch notes were more extensive
not for event for buff changes. If the editor is being reasonable and frankly it should be standard there should be a commit note why the page was changed.
Oxy has left the chat
Hold up
Accidentally ran into this rather silly entry: a CA gun listed with a DD gun's compatibility.
Fixed
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Odin has no AntiSub values on level 100 stats and base stats
went hunting for stuff again
im sorry if im being annoying
The New stat template for the shipstats looks worse than the old one in my opinion
And it looks less comprehensible than the old one
Also the ships nation is missing
nation missing where
also how is a table where the columns are the stats and the rows are the levels less comprehensible than a stats table with levels separated by a tabber
Cuz no one cares about non 120 stats
In the Desktop Version there is no link to the nation like in the old format
Sorry if i was unclear
I have gotten used to the stats now but something about the spacing for Classification and Voice Actor just doesnt sit right with me
By the way this is how it looks for me on my laptop
The link to the ships nation on Hammanns Page for example is Hardly there or entirely missing as in the case of Essex
Better now?
your screen appears to be at a very low resolution that it managed to squish the contents out
though using a regular sized monitor thats 16:9 essex is too fat and so is le malin
anything that takes up 2 lines worth of text will push everything below it down outside of the box
Okay think I fixed it, except for 5 whole pixels of width where you can slightly cut off (should also be gone).
I mean, that one is cause I screwed up the Illustrator location, but that's fixed now
Some of these night commissions are still wrong and need to have their lengths and rewards updated
Sup, Indo.
anyway, example on my side, 1920x1080 res
Hello, I have a request for the wiki :
To search more easily the events with a focus on a particular faction, the event pages should receive new categories (exemple : "Dreamwaker's Butterfly" could receive the 'Sakura_events' category)
This would allow users of the wiki to search and find events by faction (in case of an event with multiple factions like "Iris of Light and Dark", just use 'Iris-Vichya_events' as it hold the majority of the ships in this event)
What do you think ?
Great idea
so I'm clearing VDIR right now to get to D3, and uhhh the levels of the mobs don't match what the Wiki claims. Wiki says War Archive C1 is level 80 mobs and level 82 boss but as you can see...
the stat requirements use the higher CN amounts and the fleet restrictions use the CN amounts but the mob levels are the EN rerun ones?
I just found something that caught my Eye : on https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Eagle_Union
Both Bunker Hill's and Arizona's frame are not the same size as the others
Also I've check all other shipgirls and all other nations, these two seem to be the only ones with this
hey, does the wiki have a list somewhere with all the ships images LINKS, so i can copy them all at once?
no
but arent the image links saved in the source code of the pages?, do you maybe have the specific directory of that source code that i need with the ships image links?
it's more that if you scrape the wiki for images the wiki host will personally kill you
if you need a ton of images it's easier to just extract them yourself
🥲 ok, ty still
(extracting images isn't exactly secret info so i guess i could explain how to do if it you want)
it might only be for smaller monitors (im on 20 inch atm) but the texts overlap for the ships with longer names
oh, ill gladly take you up on that offer then, ty
do you know where the game files are on your emu/phone?
ok good
i usually use memu but i just switched to bs5 so idk how the file system works yet 
do i need to find the azur lane folder of bluestacks?
found it
i still have to figure out how to move it to pc

i sent you some links in DMs
did you tell him the about the part where he has to assemble the images
So, I hate to be that guy, but it’s been almost 7 months and the 2021 valentines lines have yet to be added... more recently, the lines for Saratoga’s Cup Ramen Ambassador skin also have to be added.
ok i'll write a script to finally add all valentine lines
Thank you!
You got this right?
Yeah they are pinned
"list of fighters" wiki page lists the max damage of the AP rocket as 160 but game says 189 which is correct 
or did you not update the table when +13 was added 
I'll do it later 
forgot to tell. the VL is uploaded
it still doesn't show up for me and idk why
Ok
Purge and they appear
It appears now. Actually I don't understand what purge cache do so I'm afraid to touch it
doesn't appear in desktop for me yet
Is it showing now?
Azuma, Ark Royal and Rodney are still missing their VLs for their Oathskins
Does Azuma HAVE Oath skin lines?
She should have at least one
Afaik azuma doesn't. But ark and rodney have(just checked patch notes)
I'll upload it later
Thanks
After i fix my pc not launching Minecraft
wdym your server
what does that have to do with anything
Do they exist tho?
Like, in the files?
haven't checked 😇
WHEN SOURYUU META LINES

ARE THEY EVEN IN THE GAME FILES YET
I NEED CONFIRMATION
they probably is, probably.~~ i can't check since they moved where it located and idk how to read the new files~~
||ask nozo||
Wait they what
now the lines(and many other things) are in sharecfgdata(i think, since they removed it from usual files and that file is new). that's why i've been asking everyone i know how to read that files
You... offered to extract it, remember?
The 100lb on this plane should be T0 instead of T3
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Aichi_D3A2_Type_99

i want results not excuses
your cries bore me
then wait
Complain to the devs that they change the filesystem then...
edited. Thanks for pointing out.
excuse me i want to know it's that true that Ryuuhou, Chitose, and Chiyoda certificate become a Zuihou-class?? in real life event, they're separated from Zuihou-class...
I mean... check the Fleet Tech tab ingame? If you don't trust us.
how come the wiki has Heinrich and Ägir's ghost guns but not Odin
Has all 3
this needs to be fixed. VDIR war archives only has fleet constraints and HM requirements of CN version, the mobs are the same level as the EN rerun.
thx
thats not a wiki issue, thats a game issue
make a bug report instead
holy shit @uneven quarry take a look at this
why is the oil gone?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Ark_Royal
Ark Royal's page is still missing the Retrofit table showing individual costs per node etc.
total cost is still available here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Dockyard#Retrofit
there is no souryuu meta data or anything yet i guess?
devs have changed stuff about the game files and i only figured out how that works yesterday
maybe i finish updating today
ah okay. just a bit odd that almost a week old data isn't in wiki
it also took a week last time the devs changed something 
at this point the wiki role should be called "cyberforensic detective"
alrighty.. at least theres some clarification
@hardy hull 
@fickle scroll
work faster the CN wiki already cracked the code
or you could help the wiki by doing just that
instead of pretending to be a petulant child :|
This is what you're paid nothing to do though, wiki team
chop chop

stop complaining on discord
uh, sure, mind telling me your ISP's IP range?

isn't asking ISP related info could a ban-worthy reason ?
No
lol
@abstract star you are welcome to get me banned, that would lighten my load with wiki stuff since I would not be available for all the complaints about something broken
Oh chillax i just thought isn't it a privacy breach for asking IP range for isp related info. Since i was working for network infrastructure and knowing ISP IP range info, can be a way find someone's IP and maybe to DDoS someone
how do you find someone's dynamic IP just knowing the ISP's /18 or even /16
@abstract star serious question ^ since I am a CCSP/CCNA/JNCIP-SEC
and your statement makes me ???
doesn't ISP have unique IP ranges regarding their dynamic IP or for static IP where customer can pay extra monthly to get that specific ipv4 address?
your ISP might do that, most do not, because there is no real difference between a "static" and "dynamic" IP from DHCP server's perspective
and like, I do not want to go deep into off-topic, but I highly doubt any ISP would separate their static and dynamic ranges on RIR block level.
On the Site with the new Patch Notes Belfast is a Battleship
Where's the new ship's!
working on it
, data will be late but hopefully today
mee6 impersonator?
a real mee6 would have the bot tag
can someone add Shimakaze build time in the build wiki section, her build time is 0:30 (i dont have wiki account)
Already there for some time now? (on the eventpage, patchnotes. No shippage yet so she wouldn't appear on the construction page)
scroll down to bottom, click desktop view
thanks
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can i get the wiki role 👀
Ping a mod with proof that you have a wiki account
o ok
does this count https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/User:Rekunan
@dense quest for wiki role 
Did wiki break?
i think u enabled the screen reader thing in firefox
wait no it's not called that
o it's just called Reader View
if u ctrl+f5 the page should return back to normal


@sonic sorrel
donezo
let's go
where can i access the square thumbnail of the ships? i need it for my guide
the page for the details of a ship shows a rectangular thumbnail now compared to the square thumbnail some time ago
i don't really know how to answer but maybe you can use this to search for specific ships. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Special:ListFiles. the files usually ends with "Icon"
or maybe i can send it to you if you want it, since idk how to teach people get the picture
the link you provided is enough for me since i can search the icons i want there, thanks 
ETA on the ship page stats for the new event ships?
At the cost of our sanity and will to live i think we have stats and quotes
Probably tomorrow
Cheers, I was only looking for the ship stats and skills but 👍
Sounds like you guys need more hands on deck.
shimakaze will be up soon
Can you upload her l2d on the wiki too
I'm curious, are the afterimages in Shimakaze's background separate pictures? it'd be nice to have then for creative purposes if they are
I just want to give you guys a big
for how fast the event page (and all related pages) is being fleshed out. The event has been live for only a day or so and already so many stuff is updated 
is the limit break text for ships taken from game files or something?
did souryuu meta quotes link bricked completely? no voice lines or even the quotes at all
They are seperate in her l2d file, making it easy to cut them out if you want to
Usually, yes. Not sure if at the moment though. Sometimes they are incorrect ingame though (as we noted now for Souryuu META)
yeah, that's why I was a bit confused. Since in-game it calls the barrage all-out-assault for Sirius, but the wiki has it listed as "Gain Special Barrage". But then Shimakaze has "EX Barrage" in game and in the wiki
Both Umikaze and Katsuragi have the same ID (520)?
oops
where would I go to download the l2d file 
algwiki.moe
that site doesn't seem have the dynamic base art nor a way to download it if it was there 
For Katsuragi, it is drawn by same artist as Hakuryuu. For Shimakaze, it should be https://twitter.com/kuroboshi
I guess Z26 artist is https://twitter.com/px_zerowang/status/1439173598774632449?s=20
For Kii's artist, it might be Manjuu art group. When Southampton's artist uploaded the concept art, it said it only did the initial setting.
thanks! 
Someone might wanna fix this...
press ctrl+f5 on that page
Nope, nothing happened
what page is that?
:( css broke again
Everything
@jaunty mantle https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/load.php?lang=en-gb&modules=site.styles&only=styles&skin=vector returns nothing on first load again, breaking lots of css on pages
@quaint stream click that link and normal refresh that as a temporary work-around
ok
@rugged trellis I wiped Varnish cache, what about now?
yup working again
ok just because of that nickname i'm going to try
can you check if i made any mistakes

Btw vj, do you have any script that you use to rename the voicelines quickly that i can have?

hello, in the chikuma/quotes there are some typos in some of the lines, that make some end with \u266a
the problem is
i'm pretty sure i know why that's happened
but i have no idea how to fix it
(just gonna say that all the ship lines have the same problem if it's using my method)
Sometimes it shows the symbol, sometimes it shows the encoding
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Skills
i could be completely wrong, but saint louis's skills aren't listed here
also i could be wrong again, but either the game is glitching or shima got 2 torp mounts not one
cause when i use her with neptune the cap is 4
She's supposed to have 2 preloads so 
yeah but i can't see how she can get 2 preloads with only 1 torp mount 
like logically that don't make sense
so its either wiki messing up or game messing up or game logic being wack 
I'd be willing to bet the latter
she gets a torpedo base +1 at limit break 2
VL for recent ships + souryuu meta i assume isn't up yet?
Neither are Monarch's, Ibuki's or Izumo's
It seems they are not in the cargo, so they might need to be rebuild again (yay!)
:njrun:
No idea what you're talking about, but did you check you're in desktop mode on bottom of the page?
Get new skin voices please. 
get a new fucking discord profile please.
this is how her page looks for me
it's just an issue with her page, all the other ships load fine for me
Guess you have a slim monitor then, that's the standard layout now 
i have a 1920x1080, dont think resolution is the issue here

also like the fact that it's just her page and every other ship loads perfectly fine
Mine performs perfectly normal
If I squish it, the picture gets broken below the table like in your ss, if I make the window wider it gets put on the right side
yeah, it defaults to normal if i zoom out to like 90%
it just seems really odd to me that it's only an issue with her template and none of the other ships have issues at 100% zoom
Hmm yeah honestly I don't have the slightest idea why PH breaks so much earlier than other pages
i assume whatever template you guys have set up scales all the art images to the same px width right
No.
then no lines for you :^)
I see the wiki still misses quite a lot of barrages GIF, is it still in the works ? 
Doubt it tbh

the trouble is that the internal organization of bullet textures is really bad so i cba to find them all
and they've been adding more and more unique textures recently
Tirpitz's Seasonal Pine and the Frost Flower lines are still broken on the wiki
secretary idle 2 line specifically
fixed
just a reminder this is still a thing
👌
the only one on top of my head
ark royal's skills dont appear on this page
Quite some ships don't, cargo is broken or smth
Its supposed to, but the div that makes stuff appear besides each other is pretty much "trololol, I do my own thing"
s m h b e p a t i e n t
they dont have voice lines...
Wiki editors, how about adding original laffey art to the wiki
https://i.redd.it/53kuae858h941.jpg
formid latest skin
the ex lines are not there
just remembered it since its the second skin to have ex lines on top of already default ex lines
if there's a way to make the faction image non highlightable, thatd be much better
otherwise it's impossible to highlight the jp names by themselves
what was the other one?
What does ex lines on top of already default ex lines even mean?^^
formi has ex lines for default skin and timeless classics
Ahh
EX lines are up
first one is gasco for beach skin and base,but iirc her lines are up and good
hi hi, Im just wondering. Why does the Research/PR ship's page doesn't have informations about their Fatesim 5 upgrades/buffs?

ark Royal retrofit's yellow skill barrage data is not on here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Barrage
| Region = EN
| Skin = Skin4
| ShipDescription = Oh... Welcome, Commander. Can I take your order...? Or maybe, you just wanted to kick back and relax? ...Either way is fine with me.
| ShipDescriptionNote =
}}```
```{{ShipQuote
| Region = EN
| Skin = Skin3
| ShipDescription = The annual moon gazing festival's upon us again~ Ah, so you know a thing or two about the Mid-Autumn Festival, Commander? Then I reckon you know what we're doing tonight, right~? ♡
| ShipDescriptionNote =
}}```
Here are your "lines"
have fun
it just had the wrong icon, fixed
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Skills the <li> has weird text
im wondering if i should ask why they're not on each of kansen's site 
Well thanks, i just realized of the existence of that page.....sorry for bothering 
FS changes are there on ship pages too tho
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Affection#Post-Oath_Voice_Lines
dont forget to update this one later 
where map 
^


its been days 
why are you like this
Its kinda interesting to see how spoiled everyone has become in the last two years since our processes have become so automated
~~wait it's automated?
~~
If i do it yes
~~btw do you by any chance have script to convert the files in sharecfgdata into json?
~~
i literally can't do it myself
like
you have no idea how much i've wanted to see the pages myself, but i don't have the nine billion iq script that makes the pages
as a part of playerbase its not our problem to deal with
technically not ours either
^ lol
we'll start to push out data right after maintenance once we start getting paid to do this 
Just give Nobby as much money to never work again and you'll never have wiki issues ever again
stop whaling on the game and start whaling for nobby
i actually did donate to dim once on ko-fi
if nobby has a donation link or something then gimme
Also technically WE are part of the playerbase ourselves. Most of us anyway.

tfw the wiki host and the guy who does the most work don't play the game
but everyone else is busy farming
lmao
bruh.
Just bringing this up again, since it seems like an easy fix as there's no footnotes in the page and the text can just be deleted
Umm well the page is populated by cargo, so the fix isn't thaat easy
you'd have to filter out the <ref> tags (and its content) in the module that pulls the data from cargo
(and that's why putting giant strings that contain extension tags should NEVER be put in a database)
are we too deep in the fuckery to redo the whole thing
yes
fuck
that's why the calling module should just filter out the tags
I mean we are also missing quite some ships on that page
sharecfgdata is on the way (as it turns out there actually is reason besides performance why the devs aren't using giant single files for it anymore)
And what is that?
i see
you can always just read the pepega guide i wrote for riceist :^)
that only takes a whole hour to follow
:))
well i managed to follow that somehow. i just don't know how to automate it(because idk lua) since usually i just use files from nobby json repo
TIL nobby has a json repo 
i'm too lazy to copy paste manually
and even the converter is open-source :)
Huh so their files just got too large? 
yes
as it turns out not using a database for something that should use a database is not good
Who would've thought
lua 
I'd die
No Normal/Hard/Special stage info for the event added yet?
ie. blueprint/ship drops/node map, etc
also agree with this, seeing as it's still this way while looking at Microlayer Medley Rerun page
we don't add them if they haven't been in the EN client
the first image almost certainly was in the en client from my memory, cant remember for sure about the last 2
Theres some older ones that are missing
That is also not true, we add those from other clients too if we notice them

Someone doesn't know that Xth doesn't work for every number after 1st and 2nd
I've seen it in some anime subs before too, always gives me a kick
"October the threeth"
Ok now this really annoys me, if on Isuzu's page I switch between retro and non retro pic the pic changes locations
does it?
At least for me it does, guess it's cuz the screen I use atm is rather slim
oh yeah it does it to mine too 
@pure thunder quote and voicelines since shimakaze till new party skins is up?
Peter Strasser's new skin's "without BG" file hasn't been uploaded yet?
it's up now
I noticed that all the new, limited skins added in the Sep.23 update (Peter Strasser, Cheshire, Aquila, Emile Bertin, Exeter, Vauquelin, Vincenzo Gioberti, Fortune, San Juan) are mislabeled as "Permanently Available" in the gallery tab. Dunno if this is the best place to point it out or not?
Also noticed that quotes for the new limited skins are missing as well. Also dunno if this is the right place to ask about that. 
it is likely because today is the 24th and stuff may not have been sorted out or even pulled yet
so what you see is the defaults
quotes will be added soon™️
are the main wiki contributors CN or something?

then why is the censored version of Chikuma uploaded and not the regular version 

i'm not home so i guess if no one's fixed it by monday i'll do it 
I uploaded only the versions from the EN client
There shouldn't be a censored version
inb4 we were the ones who got baited all along
how is it censored? CN has the same version as EN/JP
just asking why the event map info aren't on the wiki
The game's file structure changed significantly last update, it takes a while before the relevant info from the files can be read again
yes it is important to remind that people working on the wiki content do not have any insider data nor any channels to obtain it
You got us... we're all high ranking members of the CCP here to destabilize the west through gatcha information. Can't believe we got caught.
So...this is a pepega suggestion but could y'all add that oathed ships have a 9% bonus regardless of affinity?
You done with that experiment already 
I got to 2 checkpoints, the bonus didn't drop at 99 affinity or at 80 affinity
I doubt it'd drop at 60 either
Check the stats, it's entirely possible that the oath page doesn't update properly
the imgur also has the stats screenshotted https://imgur.com/a/4DeeyCQ
Unless oath stats are listed somewhere else that I'm not aware of which is definitely possible
The page just mentions 100-200 for oath rings right? Or is it implied that oathed ship is 9% for all affinity values other than 200?
Probably should clarify that, and while at it change every mention of affection to affinity, the proper ingame term (along with intimacy).
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Voice_Actors
This page was last modified on 11 September 2019, at 11:10.
some bugs i guess?
can we have the date for the time a skin was added in the game below the "Live2D model" box?
absolutely not trying to make the wiki team rewrites hundreds of wiki page
All of the VAs are there. The page calls a module to get the ships and VAs so no need to update
Probably the same response as when asked for adding "add" date for ships, just check the patchnotes? Or look up the corrosponding event? It becomes iffy in the past since skins did not launch simultanious on EN (or even recently when Z23 wedding and Amagi was released earlier for EN than other servers).

ctrl+f on patch notes is your friend
but f3 
EN/JP vs CN
How is that a skin?
i didnt say skin
I actually just said chikuma. Maybe I should have added loading screen 
Still "what?" though (and the EN was added before CNs even)
upload dates say they're an hour apart but for some reason the uncesnored version didnt show up on recent files yesterday when I only sorted through images
🐌 moment
Your wiki feedback rights have hereby been revoked 

Taihou oath skin when?
When it actually comes out in game. We can't hack into manjuu server, yet
Go away and come back with useful suggestions when
^ only on max enhanced tab, if you don't see what the heck is the guy talking about
It's because there is no "damage11" in the code for T0 100lb bombs...
you mean not at all, or just not in your database?
what's ‘your database’ in this case?
I thought the data on the wiki is mostly extracted from the game data files
Added
Hello, could I get the Wiki Contributor role? 
you'll need to ping a mod with proof that you have a wiki account
usually it's just creating a user page and putting ur discord info in it somehwere

I do not recall seeing a request with this user tag hmm
@teal hawk can you provide your wiki username?
\o/
Nyaa
Cheers Ender 
I'm collecting colours across servers 
So I noticed that there's no info on the Hedgehog damage modifiers if you're insane enough to +11 or more it. I assume they're known and it just got overlooked?
I assume it works the same as the damage modifier for other gear?
so base modifier is 100%, then?
It looks like base modifier for Hedgehog is 100% yes
I think since hedgehog is an aux if you +11 or higher it might only increase asw 
Or it will affect the depth charge damage like how plane +13 increases the bomb damage
I dont expect a "damage modifier level 3" like with guns on it
But then again gotta consult the madman with a +13 hedgehog 
It does have that, corrected = Damage Modifier \ Coefficient. Base one is 100%
Oh I guess the coefficient does change differently for different starting coefficient / gear though
I updated the page, Hedgehog shows the coefficient values now
Awesome
Lol, it doesn't boost Siren damage? Fail.
It does boost siren damage as well according to ingame, I think it just doesn't have that info in that file?
Isn't all +11 or higher gear supposed to do that though?
Sure but it probably just isn't in that file since all +11 gear does that so they don't need it listed for every gear
Like champagne gun doesn't list that either for example
No, it should be there, its just bugged I guess. As I said... fail.

Unless they changed the entire system with the sharecfgdata stuff (I cannot open that)
Is this the relevant property?
All +11 is supposed to have anti_siren = 100, 200 for +12 and 300 for +13
Ok yeah that's just in a different file
anti_siren is in equip_data_statistics files, corrected is in weapon_property files
Oh, nevermins then
I think none of the asw gear lists the improved coefficient (for purple +11 gear)
Im pretty sure ticonderoga's friendly and stranger voicelines are mixed up
fixed and added her bunny lines
ah nice
I have a consistency issue.
The wiki seems to move around with the definition of salvo and volley.
Dork's yellow skill is the same in the wiki with the word salvo meaning all mgm's.
Bismarck's s1 says "first volley" in game and "first salvo of each volley" in the wiki.
JB's s1 says "First volley of every salvo" while wiki says "First salvo of each volley"(same as bisko)
The game sticks to the constant definitions of salvo=all mgm and volley=individual mgm, while the wiki doesn't stick to one definition.
I also asked around in #history and was told that the two words effectively mean the same thing and it's more of an in-game way to differentiate between the two. So maybe the wiki could also follow in-game nomenclature?
aww i didn't even have enough time to meme him 
added
that lines doesn't have voicelines. somehow
one of zuikaku skin dont have VL yet
I'll do later 
add Ammunition ships to the Glossary page
@forest mantle can you add @sullen bramble to wiki people thinger
Should be added now
arigathanks gozaimuch
@hidden rain I sent you a friend request to message you about a revision I made if you get a moment
@forest mantleAdd@sweet mirage to wiki please
Added
scroll down and click desktop view
just wikimedia things
I do not think wikimedia foundation has anything to do with this
mediawiki 
I hate to bring it up again, but it's still worth changing if possible
Because with wiki nomenclature as is, it implies that Dork's 50% bonus only applies to one shot instead of all 3 of her mgm's in the first reload
misspelling
Where?
didn't even send a link
yeah sure can i have shimakaze's bunny skin in fortnite
@shell hawk
Banned
so much for free skins 
Yeah that was the weirdest "scam" I've seen this far
daily reminder yeeehaw
Is yuudachi retrofit on the wiki yet?
no

no
if you want stuff on the wiki that badly just do it yourself
And before you ask, knowing you, no we didn't add World 14 either or Operation Siren chapter 5...
Nope, eva stats for DDs just increased a lot with the update
ahh ok 
Yeah, even though they said "lvl 2-119 changed" 120 DDs and CLs have higher EVA
ok that's a valid complaint
Belfast || best maid and waifu|| Lil Bel chan and Minneapolis due to the tattoo match and dido is the last one sirius but klook like her
@native arch
I would fix it if I was on pc
But rn I'm in bed listening to really weird asmrs
So I'll do it tomorrow
Define weird ASMR
Algérie
HUGE
They're so big their gravitational field is going through my phone screen into reality
And they're sucking me in
Classy
it sounds like my head is getting sexually assaulted save me
no
Also for the loading screens, thats not Helena with Honolulu its St Louis and neither is Noshiro with Centaur, thats Ryuhou
Gimme a sec
I must witness this sacrilege with my own eyes
...
Hasssatttt

I thought hassat played the game
Heinrich and NJ screen is also missing the names btw
I'll do them all when I get home tomorrow 
I can't help all your waifu's look the same... that's why I never do the maids anymore...
But don't you play the game
You just learn which one is which after staring at all of them for thousands of hours
I stare at Malin's butt...
I've stared at murmansk's ass since she got released 

But apart from some of the IJN DDs I still know every ship in the game 
Or at least
Recognize them
Nice








