game-feedback

[winter hearth]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_classification_symbol

Wikipedia says, that Deutschland-Klass und P-Klass should be CB 🤔

[sinful cloud]

There was even a suggestion to allow them to equip Azuma gun but they havent changed anything yet

[winter hearth]

They should have retro to CB

But with Heinrich it's harder

It seems like a big failure because Deutschland-klass was released early while it was no CB

[copper nest]

wiki says there's no such thing as kms prinz heinrich either so should she be removed, or moved to pr?
jokes aside with new cb gun they could at least get ability to equip them, it won't break the game

[winter hearth]

Ägirgun is practically something like next version of Deutschlandgun, so it makes sense if Deutschland-Klass and P-Klass could equip at least Ägirgun

If they could also equip Azumagun it would be even better, but at least Ägirgun

[kindred vessel]

Desuland Class were never classified by the Kriegsmarine as Large Cruisers though, they were Heavy Cruisers.

[winter hearth]

But everything says that they are CB.

[agile gazelle]

Deutschland was put way before CBs were a thing

Heinrich isn't a PR

[winter hearth]

I mean, there's reason why they are called Pocket Battleships.

[kindred vessel]

that's was because of the 280mm guns and low displacement

[naive cobalt]

could you please move historical trivia to #history

[sinful cloud]

So for not being PR, she cant have her classification?
And Desuland was actually classified as sort of a large cruiser at first but then changed so it makes sense for them to at least be changed to equip CB guns

[naive cobalt]

it was suggested for them to be able to equip CB guns

[winter hearth]

CB was extra for Alaska-class because it has more than 203mm. So, Deutschland-Klass should be CB. But I understand that it's hard to change in the game, so allow them to equip CB guns is at least something

[kindred vessel]

letting them equip CB guns makes more sense than reclassifying them as CBs because they were never CBs irl.

[winter hearth]

That's thing for #history but it was so, because Germany was not allowed to build BCs, so they called them as CA to not start a conflict

Practically they are CB

[kindred vessel]

Well yes but actually no. Deutschland class displacement: 10,900 tons. USS Alaska: 29,000 tons.

[sinful cloud]

I mean (Spee and Deutsch would be nice to get a buff) making them full CBs would probably shift the stats a bit which knowing how it goes it would be a 50/50 to be nerfed or buffed so I would be happy with the gun change alone

[winter hearth]

I think it makes sense to give them retro to CB, but it's desicion of devs

But I agree. At least CB gun would be nice

[kindred vessel]

imo gun only would make more sense than reclassifying them.

[high pond]

The real buff that Deutschland class needs is mgm+1

[kindred vessel]

and since they don't take suggestions on retrofits we can't really speculate too much on a theoretical retrofit

[winter hearth]

That's the problem. Practically all old KMS need buff. And Scharnhorst-Klasse could be buffed through retro (even historically it's ok) but we cannot suggest this, so just wait

[high pond]

If you think you like a ship you should learn to accept their flaws

[sinful cloud]

They did do some buffs some time ago so one can hope for more
Graf's was a nice one

[kindred vessel]

it's totally understandable WHY they don't take retrofit suggestions, though.

[winter hearth]

Graf is strong even now

[kindred vessel]

cause otherwise they'd be flooded with them

[winter hearth]

With Ägirgun or Azumagun Spee will be really strong

[high pond]

No mgm+1 btw

[winter hearth]

I agree, this makes sense. But it doesn't changes, that only devs decide if a ship has retro or not

[cloud sable]

not really, its not like agirgun is significantly better than the spee gun

[winter hearth]

More FP and bigger crits. And no VT

And this is already topic for #gameplay-help

[cloud sable]

20 FP isnt as much as you would think, especially consdering spee has like almost 300 base FP
and bigger crits ye, but in the end, the average DPS youre doing will be similar, in the end itll average out. and plus my point is just that spee being just able to equip agirgun wont really be a massive game changer its not like spee cant equip drake gun anyways for dps

[velvet adder]

so true king a it their flaws that i love her more

[velvet adder]

can we have a buff to second floor so that it can keep up with 2x second floor kinda useless ngl

[topaz otter]

That assumes you have one in the first place, which isn't the case for a vast majority of the playerbase though

In addition to research being overall nerfed in the recent update.

Unless you are spending cubes now, it wasn't really the case previously. Sad to see this go the more whale-friendly route

[hearty crane]

Just because one thing got broken doesn't mean we should let something else get hindered from it... I rather have both got handled.

[winter hearth]

Gold D were really buffed. Now they are the best target researches

[hearty crane]

Still have yet to spawn one since the update (same for UL). Plenty of blue's and purple's though.

[topaz otter]

Not even close, cross comparing the data from the Collective Archive and recent empirical data slowly compiled by my community

Gs went down. Qs went down. Bs also went down. Ds weren't really touched in total blueprint count. I guess the developers don't actually want us to complete PRs.

Unless you blow money on cubes that is

And I can only imagine the pain of focusing equipment and not ships that you might not want to use

[winter hearth]

All people with I speak already have 30+ BPs for gold PR. That means in 1-2 mounts it will be 30 dev. And some of them just spent gold, even no cubes

Researches were buffed. But now you need to use different strategy, therefore it seems to be nerfed

[copper nest]

with that logic, if you changed nothing with your strategy, you shouldn't feel the difference 🤔

[topaz otter]

All of them or only one? Previously G projects were good overall for blueprints, now they are actually a scam because the overall yield is now half of what it used to be, same for equipment from those
Qs which were good for equipment, now yield just a bit more than half of what they used to be
Bs were nerfed a little even if you rarely picked them
Ds didn't change in overall BP/project count
If that isn't a nerf, then I don't know what is

And let's not get started about Es which were bad since the dawn of PR.

[winter hearth]

Earlier blue Da were the best and gold Ds scum. Now gold Ds are best and blue Ds scum

[topaz otter]

How often do you get gold Ds though?
Exactly

It's a nerf no matter how you look at it.

[winter hearth]

I use cubes for me it's buff because I can do fast skip gaining extra BPs.

[topaz otter]

Not everyone does though. There's a gacha to pull from too

[winter hearth]

Than go to blue Ds. They stayed as earlier

[topaz otter]

I shouldn't be completely crippled in PR progress if I decide to pull the gacha instead, like it is with the recent update

[winter hearth]

I mean. The change of researches is cool. This is what was necessary

[topaz otter]

I don't get how elongating this already arduous time-gate is "necessary" in any way.

[winter hearth]

Earlier u got 2 BPs from gold and 2 BPs from blue. Now 2 from blue and 10 from gold. Everything is how it should be

[faint hinge]

A second research slot was necessary

[topaz otter]

You do not get 10 BPs from gold, more like 6 on a low roll
And 1 on blue, rarely 2
Considering how commonly you get blues, it is a HUGE nerf.

[hearty crane]

Gonna put doubt on that, unless they somehow manage to pull UL's out of their ears atleast 5 times in this short timeframe.

[topaz otter]

No matter how you look at it.

[winter hearth]

I agree, Ds are too rare now, but I'm agree with all another

[topaz otter]

I'm honestly getting tired of this game at this point when the grinds are getting worse by the minute.

[winter hearth]

I'm 2 days on Pr4 and I have 20 BPs for Augusta

[hearty crane]

Purple D's give me 3 PR's, blue 1 or 2. It's not a whole lot. Gold, UL? None appeared as of yet. Tell me how to plan RNG.

[winter hearth]

It's really good change.

[topaz otter]

Just because you are lucky does not mean the remaining playerbase is

[hearty crane]

You got an August UL then I presume. It's hard to call "just plan" when that's a result of luck.

[winter hearth]

Not only me is so

[topaz otter]

At worst it should take me five months to do a PR playing casually

[winter hearth]

No one Gold and UR was gotten

[topaz otter]

But with the recent changes it's closer to ten. And let's not talk about DRs because that is a whole different category. It seems like the developers actually want us to sell our soul and sleep to the research system instead of "reducing burden on the commanders", like they themselves stated in one of the dailies'/weeklies' changes.

[winter hearth]

The first is mine. The second one is from my friend, and he didn't spend cubes. The similar picture have a lot who have chosen right strategy

[topaz otter]

I suggested a queue to not have to lose sleep over all of this but it seems the diehard players didn't really like the idea, considering the downvotes. Sad for me to know you can be met with so much incosideration these days

[topaz otter]

Cool for you, you two got lucky. I haven't broken 15 on any. I want equipment by the way

The new german plane looks cool and I want to try it out on my carriers

[winter hearth]

Even after full PR is ready this was buffed. I got 3 Drakegun BPs in 4 days and 5 30min gear research. And this was not only me. Researches were buffed and really good buffed

[topaz otter]

I don't think so. Haven't seen a single 30 minute so far since update.

[velvet adder]

I have 17 for both hakuu and agir most of them from D researches, the 2 golds that i did get for hakuu and agir gave 4 and 4+1bonus golds still dont seem super great to me

[hearty crane]

I did get a bunch of 30m Q's. But I don't feel those are worth it, I'm in it for the shipprints. Not going to waste coins on gear.

[topaz otter]

Even if you are in it for the ship blueprints, the overall yields have went down by about a quarter.
This is a ship collection game by the way, they want you to collect and complete the ships.

[hearty crane]

People keep talking about 10, but those are the UL drops, those give 10-11 (as far as I can tell from screenshots. Again, none here). Gold isn't quite that level yet people lump them together. Then yes, it'll look skewed.

[sinful cloud]

My experience is mixed but the system will continue to be crap until they let go some layers of rng to make it more consistent imo

[winter hearth]

I would also suggest to make more EXP needed for getting PR, because 1KK EXP can be reached in half day But I know everyone will be against

[topaz otter]

That'd honestly be better than having to wait for blueprints since you can do it within your pace and without being at the mercy of luck

[hearty crane]

The amount of drops in D itself seem fairly unreliant on RNG. Their rank seems to be low, like 1-2 (DR:1 ), 3-4 (DR: 2), 10-11 (DR: Unknown). They are just low, and you still need to get them to appear in the first place.
Someone before talked about D being specific, G being "random" and I would LOVE that, but G is still the unreliable discount D, so it would need changes to fit sucg a role.

[velvet adder]

4-5, 10-11? what kinda golds and purples have you been doing?

oh you changed for dr now ok

[topaz otter]

Provided they revert the changes and actually buff the pre-update research that is

[winter hearth]

4-5 is normal for purple. Gold I know only from experience of my friends

[copper nest]

I'm going after pr3 now but overall personal experience is leaning more towards bad/awful so far, one purple face for pr4 dr got me whole 2 bps 😐 (no good researches for season 3 were available)

[hearty crane]

3-4 is purple, 10-11 is UL. Screwed up first value, sorry

[velvet adder]

The fact they halved them for DR ships is kinda shitty ngl

like thanks for just extending the grind for literally 0 reason

[topaz otter]

They will not change anything it seems from my recent experience here. Maybe it's time to drop this and find actual games

I'll see this week, Hades looks cool.

[winter hearth]

[hearty crane]

Yeah, and they are rarer to appear too. There's a reason that a lot of my Drake DR's came from D missions of Cheshire and such.

[winter hearth]

I think it's good that I won't have Hakuryu from my Ägir researches

I can be sure that my Waifus will have 30 dev

[hearty crane]

Just at the same time you could have dev30'ed all 5 in the past. Seems an odd "benefit".

[sinful cloud]

Some things that seem good on paper arent in pratice
Maybe they forgot the 2nd part

[winter hearth]

But this will be longer. I think it's better to have your waifus fast, than all, but long

[topaz otter]

Except the problem is you get one ship at the same rate as you used to get ALL ships.
I assume that's what they said at least

[hearty crane]

[topaz otter]

Whichever way you want to interpret it, it is a nerf to research and I'm not going to deal with that as a player. It was already frustrating enough to wait for the blueprints, now I will simply consider quitting for actual games

[winter hearth]

If I don't want to upgrade a PR, so it makes sense to not to take researches for that ship and gain some for another

[topaz otter]

Except now you can't really do that because all the other researches suck

[winter hearth]

I explained already why I think, this is a good buff. I don't want to repeat myself

[topaz otter]

I already explained extensively why it's a huge nerf, not a buff in any way

[kindred vessel]

I dunno about you but I'd rather have 1 Dev30 worth of prints for a single ship over 5 ships with 100 prints each.

[topaz otter]

Just going to point to this since I already repeated myself so many times

[sinful cloud]

Ppl are gonna have mixed opinions, you can see it as nerf but others as buff
Its all rng upon rng so everyone is gonna have different results leading to seeing it as better or worse

[raw quest]

nice feedback guys 👍

[winter hearth]

🥴

[velvet adder]

[formal oyster]

We're not even 1 week in and people already figured how long it will take them to dev30 their PR despite the changes.
Personally so far I find DR print drop to be more consistent, which is nice. But as I said, it's not been one week yet, I may just have been lucky so far.

[fluid grotto]

just skip blue

[velvet adder]

[eternal bronze]

Thing is, the system is still RNG, it ins't going to be the same experience to everyone, hence why there are mixed opinions.

[sinful cloud]

And you cant "just skip blue" cause rng screws you like its done to me these last 2 researchs Ive done (literally the best it gave me)

[hearty crane]

Gimme more re-rolls than 1 per day then... I can't really choose... and I already do Q and 1.5 G for refresh... still nothing.

[eternal bronze]

3 refreshs per day would be the ideal imo

[fluid grotto]

this kind of rng still screw u even pre pr4 tho, only changes are D and G

[velvet adder]

[sinful cloud]

Then maybe, just maybe it would have been good to keep other bps on the researchs if it aint consistent
Gotta target the main problem before others

Apparently the rng was the complain for CN too and they ignored it so considering it a lost cause since it took them this much for any change that didnt address the playerbase problem (except for PR1...a bit, which was the good thing)

[fluid grotto]

but H blue and Q blue are quite common to pop so i dont really see a problem on refreshing, id still take blue face if its the girl im working on/planned too.
yes overall bp count gain from new mech is bit slower than pre pr4, but i rather max one ship early than having a bunch of unusable low dev prs.

which probably the direction dev took

[velvet adder]

some research is not preference and others are but i pick the one best for my time of them and sometime i win sometime i do not and that is ok only wish for quick finisher so i can try again before closing game longer time i think it is fine

[sinful cloud]

If they are, and you acknowledged it that they are, quite common and would take it if its the one you're working on then you cant "just skip blue" to gain more bps can you?

Rng determines the research youll do and the tier it will be, it has no consistency for the player and that sucks

[fluid grotto]

yeah cuz ppl keep qq ing the low rate of blue, just skip em

[sinful cloud]

[ornate basin]

if we can keep this channel purely to feedback that would be well appreciated, while we encourage discussion of feedback this is truly getting us no where and has been going for days

this is just discussion that has run full circle multiple times

[fluid grotto]

yeah clearly

[sinful cloud]

Honestly the thing I got from the discussion is that its pretty much the old system but tweaked which divided the playerbase even further
Ive said that it would be good with consistency so guess best thing I can do is for the devs to open their eyes and ignore it until some changes are made to not repeat the same thing

[fluid grotto]

i mean i never say new research is all better than pre pr4, old has better overall bp gain, while the new one reduced the rng factor but lower the overall bp gain amount. idm either of them tbh, but i just dont get why some ppl too busy qq-ing instead of looking for a better way to do research lol. game mechanics changes, big deal. just find a way to get around it, its not like its only affects you. if dev not gonna do anything about it just take it as raised of game difficulty.

[velvet adder]

pr require patience not hard

[naive cobalt]

if you want to fight - this is not the place

[sinful cloud]

I hate everyday with the PR stuff is just that
One says smth that think its good then other says that just doing it wrong, procced to "then tell me how to do ut right", the other doesnt give any worthy advice and says to improve the system, the first repeat their change and finish it with "you're just whinning"
Man, can we at least agree on smth without being dumb (and that goes for both sides)

[velvet adder]

pr giving you powerful ship over time play each day you get sooner time gating is intention it keep retention it over all good i do not want to finish too fast and be bord with a ! on my bar and no reason to start research again too soon

[fluid grotto]

you can start with checking the data collected in etcl server for better judgement on making research decision.

[sinful cloud]

some have take that into account already and met with "just do better, its good now"
Its 1am, im just sick of this thing by now

At this point, just screw the entire system and give me a massive exp bar for dev levels so I can take Essex's advice and play at my own pace each day

[fluid grotto]

always good to know numbers

[velvet adder]

can we please make it so that elites dont pop up when i recieve them? its so annoying, after like my 10000th bulin pls stop showing me

An auto skip ship intro screen, would be great to toggle in settings

If you have a locked copy already it should just be skipped for every rarity

[dark root]

Instant dorm food filler, preferably with a customizable template for each food and individual amount of food you want to use, just one tap of a button or something and it'd fill the dorm food for you

Getting real tired of tapping each food one by one

[naive cobalt]

you can hold it
you don't need to tap 1 by 1

[velvet adder]

good to know that thanks

[fluid grotto]

hold and pray u send the right amount

[velvet adder]

[ornate basin]

we dont exactly need all the comments for everything you two

[fluid grotto]

my apologies

[velvet adder]

i like this alot alot no reaction is a suck but i will try to stop

If it fills up exact it doesnt take any extra and if you dont and its going to waste food it specifically asks you so you dont need to pray

its a good system already

[round verge]

Make it so stronghold icon appear first

[modest island]

its kinda confusing with skill stacking when formi's skill "supporting wings" has the same english name as the "supporting wings" on casablanca/independence, but the CN/JP names are different

[pure gyro]

Maybe it's just me but having my BB's take dmg from nothing is a little BS. I say this because I watched one of my BB's lose the last 25% of her life even though I made sure that I killed the 1 suicide boat and shot down the 3 planes well before it reached the back. While only 2 DD enemies were on the screen, I intentionally ate all the 3 torps with my Vanguard to make sure a stray torp didn't reach the back to possibly hit her because she was getting low on life. Yet still my BB's health bar magically drained the last 25% with no visible shot, torp, plane, or suicide boat reaching my back line and no dmg indicators being displayed. MAGIC 😄

[kindred vessel]

FYI torpedos literally can’t hit main fleet in PvE, they wink out of existence the second they get past the vanguard.

[cursive horizon]

I'd often wondered about that, since you do see them in the Exercises. Thanks for confirming!

[pure gyro]

This game has the tendency to... surprise me with "magical" dmg so I didn't want to take the chance.

[astral mantle]

maybe your BB was on fire.

[pure gyro]

Nope. she was not. I Just happened to get to see her shoot her salvo before she died.

[kindred vessel]

That seems like the most likely answer as the only damage I know of in the game that doesn’t show up directly is the “take X damage every Y seconds” from Abyssals

[pure gyro]

I was fighting a mob fleet on 10-4.

[winter hearth]

We are waiting for video

[merry grove]

Maybe its sub dmg?

[pure gyro]

I wasn't recording, as I wasn't expecting what happened to happen. If you meant me, as for the subs, none were present.

[crude pasture]

Do you mean you did not call in subs, or that the enemy wasn't fielding subs?

[pure gyro]

The enemy wasn't fielding subs.

[crude pasture]

What particular level were you on?

Oh, you said 10-4 derp

Could it have been burn? I don't think burn can finish you off tho

[pure gyro]

No burn, my main issue with the whole ordeal is that I received no visual feedback to indicate what she took dmg from. From what I seen she had life, then the last 25% of her health bar drained in one go and she died.

[cursive cape]

why not just make it "Can be converted for all DR ships" ?

[raw quest]

Pr5 coming soon ™️

[cursive cape]

this kind of bp will always be for all series ...

[astral mantle]

if they changed it to "Can be converted for all DR ships", people would save them thinking they can speedrun pr5 ships with them

and then come complaining in this channel when it doesn't work

[cursive cape]

well i guess

lol

[hearty crane]

G didn't change???

And in the past blue D was a good pick, so why would I skip it?

[hearty crane]

You cannot find "better ways to research" since its the same old rng picking 5 slots for you to deal with... with blue being far more common than the supposedly buffed gold (can't say since none spawned). How should I better spawn ULs? Already did and do the Qs and 1.5h G's. Do say how you can 'do better'? That's like saying "just pull better" on Gatcha really.

[hearty crane]

No, its not, when PR5 releases it'll remain up to series 4. This way they don't need to rewrite those descriptions each year.

[fluid grotto]

yes you can, why do you think people gathering data of the new research. you just gotta make a better decision from information you have. game too hard? yeah bohoo, everyone have it the same

[blazing heart]

Just cuz everyone has it the same doesn't mean it's good, basically you're saying "deal with it"...in a feedback channel
Anyway I just hope there will be some more changes to research coming, especially for gear and with that I'm done with this discussion

[fluid grotto]

eh, fair

[hearty crane]

I don't see how knowing D is worse makes RNG change itself to supply ULs more. Also D was the best print research, so its not like it being nerfed makes other things better, those still suck as before aswell. There is nothing much to compensate that loss, EXCEPT whaling on H.... yaaaaaay.

Explain me how we got 'buffed' again?

[fluid grotto]

it's more of whining than a feedback tbh

[hidden siren]

Try reporting it to Belfast using the !Feedback command? My guess is that they used a special character for the I to bypass the profanity filter.

[hearty crane]

The feedback is "Your buff is worse than before, please buff to pre-quote unquote buff levels". But sure call it whining when we point out something that was intended to change to something changed to something else instead...

[ornate basin]

yes, please report the user and please dont post screenshots of offensive content as well in public channels

[fluid grotto]

yeah sure, research too hard, dev pls give us more bps pls

[hearty crane]

How dense are you. They wanted to make it easier. If instead they make it harder, that's not the intention, YOU THINK? But go on, strawman harder...

[raw quest]

nice feedback guys 👍

[fluid grotto]

im agreeing with you man 👍

[fierce sonnet]

permanent content take it at your own pace

[thorn dust]

Is there proof that research is harder? A graph showing BPs per week before the update compared to after?

[fluid grotto]

people still gathering data

but some other people started complaining over small sample of bad rng

[hearty crane]

Which is funny since it seems the range of rng is literally one value or the other now. 1 or 2. 3 or 4. 10 or 11. Rng in D itself is barely a factor

[fluid grotto]

can't speak for everyone but i got more bps than pre pr4 with less cost.

[gray patrol]

Dude just submit your feedback to Belfast or something

[ornate basin]

I’d suggest we stop going full circle every few hours and either introduce something new (and constructive) or just drop it thank you we do not need constant comments that just spiral into bickering again

[fierce sonnet]

yeah this pr conversation has devolved into brick walls talking to braincell deficiency send feedback thru the bot and be done

[fluid grotto]

yeah i'm agreeing to cut the loop

[ornate basin]

dont mean to become cactus and be prickly, but echoing is included in the comments as well

[fierce sonnet]

perhaps there is a better way to express our agreement? maybe... thru reactions?

[ornate basin]

this is #game-feedback not #discord-feedback

[sinful cloud]

Doing what I said before going to bed again, some ppl are just a broken record

[tardy arch]

unless you have something to add to the feedback, then you don't need to, and shouldn't comment.

[cursive horizon]

If I understand it right, the face researches have become more obscure? Or just worse results? Perhaps it's because there's four PRs now but I've only seen like 2 face researches since the update. Heck, even with PR2 focus I'm hardly seeing those now, as well. I'm lucky to get one or two and have to just basically pray to RNG that it's not weapon research when I'm trying to get blueprints.

[astral mantle]

I've been getting almost nonstop face researches. Maybe you're getting really unlucky (or I'm getting really lucky)

[cursive horizon]

Yeah, it's probably just horrible RNG, wasn't sure if it was more common so I brought it up.

[fierce sonnet]

yeah i dont think its a matter of obscurity because ive definitely seen a face project almost every other cycle

[merry grove]

I think the problem is the amount of bps small face research gives, it's overall lesser than before the revamp? Since before the revamp, even if you get 1 bp of that specific PR you may still get other PR bps. But now if you get 1 bp of the specific PR, that's it nth else.

[fluid grotto]

i mean it's even a week yet and people alr complaining without looking at the better way to do it

[blazing heart]

What ppl are complaining about is that PR4 didn't fix what they were complaining about before the release of PR4.

[fluid grotto]

i mean i got better overall bp result after revamp tho,same goes to guildies. since it's not the place to discuss strat then cant really say much

[hearty crane]

The results. Yes I see less face (or atleast it seems that way) but fairly sure that's just rng and it's hard to identify it either way. The drops itself are far easier to differentiate pre- and post since there's a ton less factors to it than all getting x research out of the giant pool.

[hearty crane]

Just so we're 100% clear on it now, what are said "better ways"? You keep saying this, but can you extrapolate on this? Cause D was the best pr print research... and still is. So, what can we do?

[raw quest]

H

[tough void]

regarding no. 1, what about existing skin ? can we ask for a feedback ?

[hearty crane]

You can. Plenty drop in to request higher res image of Hood party skin for example so suggest away.

[tough void]

got it. thank you.

[sinful cloud]

Exactly this, my complaints before and now were that Im at mercy of luck upon luck and the changes didnt do anything about that
If it was missions like the guild one that rewarded a few prints everytime you completed it, I would be overjoyed cause its smth I can grind and know that the ships would be completed If I didnt get lazy and then it would my fault not the system

[fluid grotto]

not the place to discuss strat, but essentially spamming cheap research to refresh till u get targeted research.

[hearty crane]

Okay I do that... they do not appear. How can I "do better"?

[fluid grotto]

idk how unlucky are you, ive been getting face card all day, been asking others in club and general they never have a problem with spawning face either

[sinful cloud]

Didnt you say to just skip blue tho? How can I do that while skipping

[shell bramble]

Unless this is feedback at this point, could you move this discussion to somewhere such as #gameplay-help

[fluid grotto]

skip blue face if u dont really want them, use Q/H/E to refresh

and yesh go to #gameplay-help , theyre just discussing bout it a while ago

[sinful cloud]

Been trying to give feedback for some time but then met with "just do good" while contradicting themselves (which should go against the last pin made) so please I would like to know how to properly do it?

[shell bramble]

Just leave your point and move on. You don't have to defend your point against other users

[sinful cloud]

Fair but then the pin should come into action too

[shell bramble]

They were also told just now to have the discussion elsewhere

[slate monolith]

Well since we have the CrossWave event back, is there a way to add that repeat button for the dailies when you are actually doing them, and not the quick buttons we got now

[viscid moon]

I have a counterpoint to "Face researches have become harder"

That is, DR face researches. The fact that you only get them, means you can do a lot better now than before

And if completing a PR ship, means you don't get face researches of that ship anymore, it should be comparatively easier to complete the PR ships, then get a ridiculous number of PR face researches one after the other

As it stands, with the majority coming from DR face research, I have 20 Hakuryu, and 21 Agir BPs, in less than a week. I don't mean this as a flex, I don't see it as having been feasible before.

Basically: Since DR blueprints are worth so much more than PR ones, and the chance of getting DR blueprints in PR face researches is super low, I think the system is now geared to give you a lot more DR blueprints, especially once you have completed PRs and removed them from the pool

[arctic siren]

Ppl said the same thing about PR3, and then a month later the rates mysteriously got reduced

Idk how true it is

[eternal bronze]

Could collabs be rerunned please? Everyone who din't happended to participate would be happy .

yeah i already know that

just giving my thoughts

[merry grove]

Weekly raid that give random Bps across all PR season

[hollow sand]

Can I get uhhhhhhh
More than 6 fleets pls

[eternal bronze]

i made a submit to Belfast about that

don't know when its going to be added on #collected-feedback

but be sure to check

[hollow sand]

I submitted some stuff and never saw it on collected feedback

[eternal bronze]

yeah i think thats my case aswell...

its honestly so bad when you are punished just for playing the way you want to

game has 9 factions and you cant even build more than 6 fleets

[uncut bobcat]

18 fleets

[hollow sand]

Maybe one day we will have more fleets

@ staff more fleets pls

[modest island]

everything i submitted that i wasn't notified of a rejection for showed up

[eternal bronze]

what does this mean?

[hollow sand]

I'm guessing there's a chance of submitted stuff showing up eventually if you haven't received a rejected message

[eternal bronze]

yeah thats what i thought

that just happended to me then

[velvet adder]

i heard if you dont get a message it was just missed although that happens to like 90% of mine

[eternal bronze]

mood

funny how the one i sent right after got rejected (it was a different feedback)

[velvet adder]

make auto retire have more fine tuning so that i can tell it not to scrap my precious common carriers

since the ships i want to enhance are in battle i have no choice but to retire things but im too lazy to pick and choose myself, i want the game to do it for me

i guess i could go into sort and choose every class except carrier but im too lazy to keep redoing it and undoing it when i want to see other ships so id rather it was available in another menu

[velvet adder]

LMAO also why is hazelwood not in these when shes a monthly login (also add bache so i can buy copies of her) and you can report someone through belfast bot im pretty sure, possibly the same way as submitting things?

[jolly jacinth]

Yeah you can report things in game through Belfast bot

[cursive horizon]

And that's why I can't have custom names on, I really wish we could make customized names on our side only without seeing what other players name their stuff.

[fierce sonnet]

Guys please why is the confirm button on the left I’m just trying to mow some lawns and I get pranked by akashi

[void schooner]

Can always just hit the red x in the top right corner. It's always in the same spot.

[fierce sonnet]

that button is much smaller than the cancel button (which should be on the left )

[hearty crane]

You can also as always just tap anywhere outside the window to close it. Generally a blessing, with very tiny buttons a curse.

[hexed vale]

can i have a number showing the number of refreshes left here?

[sinful cloud]

Except it makes the pause button useless if you want to see any notification and personally it gets out of everything without me wanting to cause big fingers

[uncut bobcat]

we need dis

[past ridge]

Can we please have 1 guranteed gold retrofit blueprint a day?Or at least let us craft them with purple prints. The rng is annoying af

[undone swift]

Its called Rng for a reason.

[rugged spire]

Add a button that make we can move to the target zone. I found it so hard to search a zone by its name.

Here, i want to farm this map, but it take a lot of time to search .

[agile gazelle]

or a number on map

[reef basin]

I've been full clearing OpSI every month and I really think OpSi needs some form of making it easier/faster every month instead of having to do the same grind every single month.

It would help if a lot of the filler stuff got removed. There's no real reason for the shop to have a bunch of random blue/purple materials except padding the time it takes you to buy out the good items in the shop, thus forcing you to play it more.

Resource nodes are completely useless. C6 zones resource nodes should at least have a chance to give purple plates.
You end up spending hours burning thousands of AP on cat nodes to get maybe 5 or so gold plates.

I almost want to also say theres no need for c1-c3 loggers.

Im rambling, but overall, once you get the gear you want from Gear lab, OpSi feels like a massive time sink just for some gold plates and you get horrible exp and no ship affection.
There needs to be improvements in either how long it takes to use your AP to get rewards, or the rewards that you get in general.

The easiest solution atm would be to add a button that just restarts the zone after autoclearing. at least then spamming c6 zones wouldnt be as tedious, improving the drops from resource nodes, and removing a lot of the garbage from the port shops

[acoustic helm]

could definitely use increased xp and purple plate drop or increased gold plates. maybe just make more gold plate and even purple plate available in port shop to exchange for token. the blue and purple materials are just ehh..just make better things appear in the shop thats all i ask

[cursive horizon]

I wish the Cat nodes would detect that you have a Super Rare cat in the Staff slot instead of always, always going with the Command Cat.

Oscar & Bishamaru are both Staff Cats.

[velvet adder]

i just use 2 super rare cats in both slots

[crude pasture]

both cats are always sent out

and the command cat is just the one that gets displayed

[cursive horizon]

It'd be nice if the game made that clear, then.

[reef basin]

really i just want more gold plates...and wishful thinking/hoping for some affection

[velvet adder]

yeah its like they felt forced to make it give shit rewards just because its free to play technically, if it gave gold plates as often as purple plates id gladly spend oil on it

even so called "end game" abyssal fights give like 10 plates

[blazing heart]

I'm pretty sure only the command cat is relevant for reward calculation too tho (?)

[mortal haven]

Can we get 2 slot of lab, please?

[mortal haven]

Ok, Thanks

[inner frost]

Assuming that this is still true, why do we have to pay more resources to upgrade SR gear than players on the CN server?
The feedback for this is obvious: Either make EN and JP pay the same amount as CN, or CN as much as EN/JP.

If this info isn't true then you can ignore this.

[obtuse breach]

because CN is easy mode server

[sinful cloud]

Cant buy half the skins so had to give them smth

[sinful cloud]

@naive cobalt do you have the link to send the values for the PR chart?

Never remember about it until after some time the research is finished
Keep getting less than pre update so would like to send it there

[copper nest]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScY838pyJHsv0TTW5-OttPINcV6upoU5NOMnpy10h1vO5P6wA/viewform?fbzx=-559382142143260230

[hearty crane]

It is true. JP/EN also take more XP per ship to level between 70-100 than CN does :/

[inner frost]

[sinful cloud]

Thx

[golden cape]

Can't CN also level up ships past LB points without limit breaking them?

[modest island]

yeah they can get lvl 100 0lb

[crude pasture]

lv 120 for that matter iinm?

[raw quest]

they can't be awakened unless max limit broken

[crude pasture]

aah

got it

[stone valley]

we can craft purple books to gold books, how about being able to craft purple tech boxes to gold??

[uncut bobcat]

this pls and gold to black

[visual coral]

can we sell items in Depot pls? I'm getting tired of items piling up in my Depot without opportunities to use them

most notably, the retrofit blueprints and weapon blueprints

[gray patrol]

Beyond 60fps when , super smooth bote action ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[velvet adder]

arent the guns tied to fps or something

goodluck with that

the ghost guns anyway

[kindred vessel]

It’s to make up for the fact that they get censorship

[bright verge]

So I found this ad of a game, which featured an “OC” that blatantly stole Noshiro arts and claimed it on their official ads

[naive cobalt]

thanks, we'll let staff know

[crude pasture]

mmh CBT

[bright verge]

Oh and since u dont play much AL anymore, can you notify yostar if they can transfer any rewards for this report to anothet game (ex. AK)?

[naive cobalt]

[slate monolith]

[delicate lance]

[hearty crane]

We get rewards?
Anyway, just leveled a META skill and wondered why I wasn't getting XP for doing the META Showdown stuff anymore, finding one, battling one. Then I realised we do get that, but the "new" system isn't capable of showing this as the old system was, but it's still incremented. Why did it change again when it can't properly show several ways to gain META XP? I do appreciate the popup if auto-ing (since afk) but if active playing what use is hiding info from plain sight to one of the smallest buttons in the game, and only for active combat (so no auto-dailies, META coordinates, might be more). Also since you now got a bar in the Auto menu for XP, can it be used to show the actual XP given for my ships use, which I would care for more than META XP. Would be nice to see which are lower morale, which steal the MVP, that kind of stuff (or quicker realise ships are 120 than 5 more runs into grinding D3)...

[copper nest]

Wow you fixed guild missions not refreshing automatically at crosswave event, good job! 😄

[chilly bloom]

Is it possible to eliminate the same research copy so we can have more options.

[subtle perch]

that is the most simplistic genius idea i've seen on here

[ornate jasper]

Please set PR1 BP discount reset at the same time as any other reset in the game and not 4 hours later

[modest island]

feedback has already been submitted on that btw

[ornate jasper]

Sorry, I didn't find it here

[modest island]

all submitted feedback is in #collected-feedback btw

its fine the most support for the idea the better

[ornate jasper]

Ok, thank you

[blazing heart]

I can't find it, could you enlighten me with a msg or trello link? Or was it just submitted, but not accepted yet?

[modest island]

#collected-feedback message
~~ik cause i submitted this originally ~~

[blazing heart]

Weird why wasn't I able to find it? I must be blind. Couldn't upvote it tho cuz I already did

[ornate basin]

not all submitted feedback is in there, the channel is fairly recent
if you are trying to not make a double suggestion and cant find it in #collected-feedback , it might be in our trello

[limber jolt]

Add a rainbow research project that uses gold plates and gives more rainbow prints or guaranteed rainbow print, cause why not

[viscid moon]

SO apparently JP has an animation for Hakuryu (and Aegir?) when they are obtained. Why don't we?

[high pond]

https://tenor.com/brzDe.gif

[full wyvern]

well we do have them if you look in their archive, it just doesnt play when we actually obtain them

[narrow sage]

for Hakuryu, EN'll likely have to wait until the next patch since it rarely does little hotfixes like how JP/CN got it.

[uncut bobcat]

add oil on guild shop

[viscid moon]

@full wyvern Oh, so it's a bug?

[undone swift]

Nerf kashino's chest size.

[hearty crane]

Oh, yes, definitely what we need right now... even more deluted research pool.

[limber jolt]

Wow man I didn't know rainbow researches appeared so often to you, if so then yeah, it needs a rework if it's this unfair.

[uncut bobcat]

this pls

[hearty crane]

I'm just saying people, rightfully, complained a lot about how research selection is RNG, and getting the actual research you want is already a burden, before going into that research's own droprates. Needing to keep doing Q's just to refresh the selection over and over and over till something appears you might want. Adding even more of them is counter to that. Now the "no dupes" above would be a good start to counter that, but since that's not the case...
No need to bite my head off...

[sinful cloud]

[limber jolt]

Then that's another suggestion, it has nothing to do with mine. What's 1 more low drop rate rainbow research gonna do to the pool?
Also I don't see people complaining about the rng in rainbow researches as it has just the right droprate (talking about after the update)
Not gonna continue, just notice that you're the one pulling the trigger into a pointless argument

[finite dome]

my wish come true

[twilit pawn]

quick someone ask for PR5

[gray patrol]

[sinful cloud]

Will it have subs tho

[gray patrol]

Oath ring in other shop pls Even if it costs a lot of merit/cores (Also limit buy per month or so and make it expensive)

[uncut bobcat]

ah yeah this

[nocturne garnet]

Bruh :v

[uncut bobcat]

add weapon bp on merit shop or guild shop or both

[obsidian spear]

Make Gear Skins as Drops like we had them in the Muse Events

[hearty crane]

Pretty sure collabs have that, it was that way in DoA too.

[obsidian spear]

i mean like in all Events when there gear skins

[raw quest]

???

[vast berry]

Buff Georgia

[winter hearth]

Allow us to give ring and get oath on new Collab ships. That makes no sense to not allow to oath on waifu in the game where you can oath each waifu. The diadem and "friendzone" is not oath

[copper nest]

There's 99% chance it's part of the collab deal so I wouldn't expect anything to change idc either xd
Maybe it isn't but communication is eh so we can only guess

[merry sonnet]

The problem is that it appears they have made a collab deal that limits them so much, that the collaboration does not even look like an actual azur lane event at all.

That's not just the rings, that's the character design as well.

[potent fractal]

Hi, I recently switched to a new device with a wide screen, and while the game works fine on it, there seems to be an inconvenience with the way these big gray margins cover the screen and the position of the view.

As you can see from this sample I recorded, the view is leaning more to the left side making half the enemies essentially invisible unless you get dangerously close. Manually aiming your salvos are also a problem with enemies that stay on the far right of the screen because the aim crosshair goes beyond the viewable stage and ends up behind the grey margin. It's not as big of an issue in this sample but when you're in the middle of a hectic fight such as Helena META, it becomes drastic even causing me to shoot beyond the boss' position because I literally can't see my crosshair and the boss with only an arrow guiding me.

[teal terrace]

Dunno if someone already made this suggestion, but... what about a Retry button on the Daily Raids?
You know, like the one on the Crosswave event that allows you to come back to the Formation screen

[hearty crane]

Someone suggested that a couple days ago, but you might want to try suggesting it to Belfast. Not sure it'll get much support though, everyone's probably quick finishing those things anyway now.

[nova tide]

Hey guys,just my random opinion, What if we could retrofit/limitbreak 6 bulin into single purin ? My dock infested by bulin if no chat border event

One more thing
How bout aux gear that allow exp to be directed/ignored equipped ship
Just like we once used to have on pokemon back then
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735816210414960672/865666843717140490/1626461402745-770673929.jpg

[velvet adder]

some option to completely skip collab events without having to stop playing

[hearty crane]

Just never click the collab/event button. There, done.

[eternal bronze]

Instead of releasing flops like this collab, what about listening to the community and give us at least a new version of the older ones, like what happended to Polaris, since reruns are hard to negotiate for.

[velvet adder]

unmarriage ship should not exist in azur lane idolmaster is takin dump on us and you shoundnt take it call it off dont be simps for idols muses are better make poleris is placement or dont anything but this ntr event garbage collab 🚮 🚮 🤮

[hasty mountain]

remove weather effects when you capture the base, this stupid combination of fire and fog has just ensured that I have to manually move my fleets through to the other half of the map through the smoke because the stupid AI will always try to go through the fire

[velvet adder]

unless the event has some weird cinematic stuff that i won't care about just thrown at me while login

[cursive horizon]

I thought the Idolmaster collab was kind of a bad idea to begin with, especially since we already have Polaris as has been stated. Of course, I felt the Dead or Alive collab was pretty stupid, too. It even had the weakest "plot" of all the collabs so far. The Kizuna & HoloLive stories were so much better than "we need a contest because". Not that I planned to oath any of these collab girls, but it's pretty unfortunate when their usage agreement interferes with the game's mechanics.

[hasty mountain]

I for one welcome the pepega collabs, the harder they tank the more they are forced to admit that hololive/neptunia/kizuna is where it was at :v

[pliant otter]

pepega collab
literally gives you an alternative which basically functions the exact same way as rings in AL
"but it's not oathing the girls tho"

Yeah, no shit, you don't get to marry the girls in Idolm@ster either, and there are a ton of deadass fans in IM@S considering that the franchise is a fucking giant.
What's your objective? To pit IM@S fans against AL?

"Oh, but I can marry your idol in my waifu game though"

Think, shikikan, think.

tl;dr the tiaras functions exactly the same as rings, it will just be the same exact oath mechanic with different flair, and not "marriage". Let's wait to see what the collab really is like before we judge.

[fluid grotto]

can pre pr4 research achieved this amount in a week?

[velvet adder]

yeah i have roughly the same tbh

[crude pasture]

what they wanna know if this level of prints was also achieved in previous seasons

barring turbowhales dumping cubes I assume

[velvet adder]

probably i think yeah if you spam cube research

[fluid grotto]

probably achievable with spamming cubes

[crude pasture]

or are you one of said turbowhales, Ruu?

[velvet adder]

cubes would be higher in pretty sure at like 30-40 or more of everyone

[fluid grotto]

but this was mostly from faces

[ruby robin]

this sounds like #al-general not feedback

[fluid grotto]

yeah mb

[fluid grotto]

misread that lol,
and no, most i do is blue H using hoarded cubes

[strong escarp]

Let's take a hot moment and discuss the real issues of Azur Lane, has anyone noticed how Murm's special touch for her PJ skin is not in the correct location? Of course I am not going to find tails in her chest! No animal, or shipgirl for that matter would be so radioactive as to have tails in their chest... as far as I know. There may be a more appropriate location for the special touch on her skin such that quote makes a bit more sense.

[hearty crane]

I see we were not allowed to critisize D cause "You might have bad RNG" Praising D with good RNG is perfectly fine though. I followed the "just research better," and git nowhere near those numbers. Infact I got 4 Haku prints, most probably from H in the first place. Always Agir.

[hearty crane]

I reported it and in his infinite wisdom Travis marked it 'not a bug': https://trello.com/c/YnEdj9B6/1858-murmansk-skin-special-touch-dislocated

Trello

Murmansk skin special touch dislocated

User Info: 137185344
System Info: Samsung Galaxy A51. Android 10
Frequency: Guaranteed. It always happens no matter what
Perceived Severity: Minor issue that does not impact core game experience (e.g., misformatted graphics or poorly translated text)
How to Reproduce: The line says "no tails DOWN THERE" today. Indicating the ...

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[spark abyss]

is lil lusty's skill bug still marked not a bug

[strong escarp]

Does improper design still count as "not a bug"

[fluid grotto]

nothing wrong with criticism, but when majority of my guildies having the similar result by doing the same method i can only say the research mechanics actually improved.
or maybe the whole guild is just lucky right? who knows

with this pace i can expect to finish DR within 4-5 months,that doesn't include freebies general print from events

[humble ruin]

I have once again come to request

Mikasa Z-Flag when

It's been like 9 months

[kindred vessel]

[fluid grotto]

yeah z-flag should be in core shop since mikasa alr archived

[kindred vessel]

Hell, put it in the Prototype shop for UR bulin coins

[crude pasture]

and maybe add the minievent into the rerun archive we now have?

[fluid grotto]

yea, that's probably better

[kindred vessel]

yeah it's not like you'd ever use it on anyone besides Mikasa anyway

[sinful cloud]

Yeah, if the rng was good
Still getting screwed with researchs which the changes didnt help

[fluid grotto]

yeah im sorry my whole guild just have better rng

barely have coins to pay all the faces

this morning research

[sinful cloud]

#trophy-room

[fluid grotto]

ah sorry, that pict should be in trophy room

along with alot others

[sinful cloud]

Then if you know, put them there unless they're with actual feedback

[fluid grotto]

here's some actual feed back, can we reduce face research cost pls? i keep getting them and my coins can't keep up

[blazing heart]

That please, I'm only doing research that costs gold if it's a DR face and my gold still can't keep up cuz I get DR faces almost nonstop

[fierce sonnet]

or maybe add more ways to get coins? i cant mow lawns all day man i got other things to do

[fluid grotto]

it's like my third face research just from today

still puzzled me how people complaining about not getting face research

[velvet adder]

I don't know if this could be implemented or not in the future but could we get an option to add or remove rigging for ship skins? (I mean chibis, not the actual skin art) Like show/hide rigging option. I have a lot of skins I like but don't find them too appealing cuz they don't have a rigging, just my personal preference of course but felt like sharing it

[copper nest]

Be careful what you wish for
They will lower cost of research like a genie, with unwanted side effect of less bps

also, +1 for above suggestion

[crude pasture]

exactly, what's the point of shipgirls if you're just gonna amputate the "ship" part

[velvet adder]

I find it kinda weird seeing the girls just shoot ammo or torpedoes from their hands or body but with rigging on the skin it makes sense imo, maybe I'm just nitpicking but I'd really like to see this as a feature in the future

[scenic flower]

Is it at least possible, that we'll get the collab with Arpeggio before I die of old age? Or you in a state of war with author? It's just weird that we're getting the collabs with a random girls, while there are true shipfus with interesting personalities.

[fluid grotto]

some recent ships have this feature but i dont think they're gonna do a total art revamp for the whole shipgirls

[velvet adder]

I don't think it would be that hard though since they already have the default rigging and it doesn't have to be a change on it, just so we can slap it on a skin and that's it. Also I didn't mean like an entire revamp thing, more of a show/hide rigging option where the default rigging gets slapped onto the skin where the rigging's position is in default skin. Also, which recent ships have this feature for example? maybe I missed something

[crude pasture]

thing is, the main images are angled rotated differently relative to the camera, which would necessitate altered Rigging art

[fluid grotto]

yeah like the lastest muse ships have object removal toggle, well it removes some object behind instead rigging but only mean its possible to separate ship layer and rigging layer in the future

[copper nest]

He wants it on chibis in-game
at least I think so

[velvet adder]

oh yeah, I meant the chibis my bad I wasn't clear on what I said

[crude pasture]

on the chibis it sounds doable

[fluid grotto]

if on chibi then it's gonna weird tho cus they're gonna shoot bullet outta nowhere

[crude pasture]

but then, I am not a programmer at Manjuu

[velvet adder]

yeah thats what I specifically meant in my original message, not the actual art on the skin but chibis only

[crude pasture]

what we want is the default skin rigging on skins to alleviate that exact issue

[velvet adder]

how though? if there is rigging and the bullets come out its gonna make sense cuz they have riggings, but without rigging then it looks like they shoot out of nowhere/from body

[fluid grotto]

ah, i thought u want to hide them

skin has their own rigging tho? at least for skins that i own

[velvet adder]

If you go to shop in game you'll see a lot of skins don't have rigging in the preview

[fluid grotto]

[sinful cloud]

Thats my main complain about Odin's skin, without rigging she looks like a lamppost that jumps when firing

[leaden sigil]

I feel like this game takes too long to play everyday to keep up with things
Soon as the day starts gotta check comms/skills/lab/academy/dorm/meow/exercises all of which have timers you'll have to check back again several times throughout the day
Then you need to head over to opsi and spend about an hour or more doing missions/strongholds/hidden/abyss every single day
Then you unlock the META boss and that can either be fast or an all day thing calling for help every 30min depending if you want to dump oil to solo it or not
and you have to do it twice
All of that isn't even counting the time spent during events manually unlocking the stages to SP, then letting the game play itself for hours repeating the highest stage you want to farm
Between juggling all the timers/opsi/event it just takes too much time when 95% of the game is playing itself on trival stages until you do get those rare challenging manual play fights, those are what are worth it, but getting one a day or something after several hours just isn't fun

i could make some suggestions but I worry, they'll distract from the core issue

META boss could be one a day with doubled rewards, no reason for 2 a day

OpSi and event farming is going to be slow no matter what happens unless we get a "skip battle" option: If I bring my lv120 mobber to a lv80 battle, there is no reason to watch that battle for a minute before I move on to the next one, just insta clear it

But don't make insta clear remove rewards, when you remove rewards from these things, people are going to do what is more hassle for the rewards instead of using the convenience thing which completely defeats the purpose
Still there is no reason my Lv120 mobber should take 10min to clear a lv4 zone

As for all the timers from comms/skills/lab etc only thing I can thing of that is not a hassle to the player is adding a queue system based on player level
Just like unlocking 1-4 comms at a time
The point of everything is making sure the player logs in once a day isn't it?
We shouldn't be pulled into checking the game every 30min or every hour for these things, queue up 6 or 12hrs worth and be done

[velvet adder]

You're right more skips can be pushed into the game now we have 3x daily skips etc, i mean even hard mode could be skipped too (its essentially skipped anyway)

I advocated for 2x game speed a lot in the past if im on auto why cant it just be put on fast forward essentially

I also dont have any idea why the 2x tickets are scarse they should just be a base feature, why is it locked behind hours and hours of content in opsi every month (and only 30 of them) like gee thanks thats a lot

[velvet adder]

Suggestions :
•More skins(even just oath skin will do) to the ones without one ranging from rare to ultra rare rarity
•either lower the price at core shop in munition or make core gathering much easier
•please add something like a 2x battle time option so that players can farm stuffs faster
PS:It's up to the developers if they want to add my suggestions

[fluid grotto]

i want pr/dr can be limit broke by using bulin, this game takes too much time smh

[velvet adder]

I mean from actual statistics (although theyre old now) azur lane is/was the biggest time sink of any gacha on the app store, I think it came in at around 6 hours a day people were using the app on average. Idk does this sound like a good thing or a bad thing yes the game is a lot of auto but 6 hours really? speeding up the content would be nice

[blazing heart]

Wym you already got x2 plans, want x4 plans now?
I mean imo the things that take lots of time are not necessary for having fun or progressing in the game really (Whatever progressing means when the last chapter of the story is from the stone age)

[velvet adder]

where's the point in having pr ships if we have to farm bps for months to make them better than regular ships

[sinful cloud]

Nowhere cause they rather have a towered rng system than a good one

[sinful cloud]

Honestly I dont even mind the time, Ive spent much more on other games before, problem is that the biggest thing that eats time is Opsi and never changes
Same thing every month that you're forced to redo cause reset if you want the materials
Either that or events, which yeah the main point is the story, but at least the shop on those have things worth grinding for

[kindred vessel]

that's... the entire point of PR ships?

[verbal marsh]

Too many ships, not enough cog chips. Put them in gemshop please. T_T

Give me an excuse to give you more of my money.

[fluid grotto]

i thought we like instant stuff

[north wave]

Add an auto open and scrap feature for tech boxes

Just to make getting gold from tech boxes easier

Automatically scrap if gear below this rarity or smth would be nice

I have over 600 purple boxes of each nation and i can't be bothered to open them all

[errant lodge]

I’ll be totally honest with you, if you’re just starting off you may not have enough cog chips, but I assure you once you get into a semi-regular play pattern, you’ll have more cog chips than you know what to do with. Just ask me, I’m sitting on 20k right now with plenty of 100+ ships lol

[fluid grotto]

nah, for more active player the cogni gain is pretty low, even buying from core shop dont cut it. so yeah more cogni sources would be nice

[velvet adder]

Just play at your own pace, you cant expect everything instant right? just wait for the cog chips

theyre permanent content

[fluid grotto]

maybe if i qq here they would listen

[velvet adder]

maybe

[fluid grotto]

free awakening button pls dev

[verbal marsh]

I've been playing 2yrs, ComLvl 121. Have all ships (except for 3 loli alts and BH.) Every ship other than PR4 is lv80+ and MLB.

Currently, have 4x ships stuck at 115, 7 at 110, and ~150 ships lv100+. I can easily burn 2k chips daily, and supply does not match up. Lemme whale the darn things. lol

Up to ~4k chips atm. For last 3-6mon, was doing cube researches for nothing but chips and cores. Lack of chips is the only thing slowing me down at this point. ._.

[blazing heart]

I think cog chip gain is fine as long as you gain more cog chips per month than you would need to MLB the new ships per month
Which I absolutely cba to calculate

[verbal marsh]

It's not. Dailys+comms = ~250/day > 7500/mon.
2200/SR, 1320/Elite, 880/R. Even if going only to new ships, basic chip income doesn't cover the average event, and you'd never be able to awaken existing ships if relying strictly on that. If you include event rewards, then it works out to right around break even on average.

If they don't want to take my money for chips, then multiply dailys' x10 and remove the cap on # of chip comms allowed to spawn daily.. That might be enough to keep up with me. <,<

[agile gazelle]

So this one is weird, and I am not sure how to best explain it and not sure if it was reported.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/612660555102289926/866023351272472636/image0.png
I don't speak German, but I checked google translate and consulted with my friends and all that and apparently "Unhulde" means "disgrace" in German. My friends think it's supposed to be "Unholde" meaning "foul" or "monstrous".

[sinful cloud]

#known-bugs message
Already a card on that

[astral mantle]

Yea she calls herself "魔女" in CN/JP which is more like "Witch" etc.

[blazing heart]

Huh I see yeah that sucks then, I do think it should at least cover like all event ships + 1 or 2 SRs every month

Also where did you get that Unhulde means disgrace!? Unhulde doesn't mean anything in German, that's not a word lol

[winter plaza]

I was wondering when will they add Tirpitz Oath skin?

[hearty crane]

I want you guys "problem"... since DR faces are really rare here. And only blue.

[kindred vessel]

Tell Google Translate then cause it says Unhulde means disorder, and unhulde means disgrace.

[blazing heart]

I mean google translate also says the German "please" means "sorry"

And states that's community confirmed

[kindred vessel]

Well I’m not sure how Dutch works with adding un to make a word an antonym of itself, but hulde is Dutch for tribute

[naive cobalt]

It's not Dutch, it's German

[kindred vessel]

Yes and hulde is only a word in Dutch, not German.

[blazing heart]

Okay I guess it was a German word like a few hundred years ago

[sinful cloud]

Does she have any other "medieval" talk? Could be smth like if thats the case

[hearty crane]

Unhulde isn't though. We don't un here.

[kindred vessel]

Okay that establishes it’s just a typo then

Cause I’d be very impressed if the TL team looked up Middle High German words

[blazing heart]

Yeah it's just one of many ways Unholde was written back then and there's not rly a whole lot of references either (I mean there are a lot of references, but there's just as many for say Ohnholde)

[verbal marsh]

She calls herself "majo" (aka "witch"), and calls SKK her familar. TL shouldn't be that hard.. What's oldy-moldy German for witch?

[blazing heart]

I mean Unholde isn't too bad a translation cuz that (apparently) was a word often associated with witches in religious texts (Basically a female that is for some reason condemnable)

[verbal marsh]

That usage sounds more like "damned", "abominable/abomination", "sinful", etc.

Sorceress might work as a base. Google-sensei sez could be Zauberin or Hexin

Sexy Hexy? >.>

[blazing heart]

*Hexe, but yeah those are more direct translations of witch, just not really anything oldy-moldy about them

[fluid grotto]

they just need to make cogni in core shop unlimited , the longer you play the less value of core data has, since you probably alr have enough gears from there.

that'd fix that problem

[verbal marsh]

GTrans doesn't have archaic languages available :/

[verbal marsh]

I'd honestly prefer gem cost to cores. Cores are limited, cash is not.

[fluid grotto]

might as well ask them to sell pr/dr print too

[verbal marsh]

Entirely different issue.

[fluid grotto]

nah, doubt they gonna do that

core shop tweak is more sensible solution

[modest island]

We got auto sub how about now adding auto request recon

[hearty crane]

They are though. Also going to be t4 parts apparently in those paid resource packs. Still a waste of money imo.

[verbal marsh]

1x pack, once per account. Do we know if those reset w/ anni like 2xGem bonuses?

[fluid grotto]

yeah thats just limited pack, not directly gem > print kinda deal

[hearty crane]

They reset per event basically. As far I can tell. Don't really pay too much attention to that tab.

cough cubes cough H cough

[verbal marsh]

No. The existing I-III don't reset regularly. Meant to be one-time purchase.

[fluid grotto]

yeah it's only reset once a blue moon iirc

[verbal marsh]

I just never bought 'em myself, so don't know if they reset w/ anni or not.

[blazing heart]

Yes pls auto recon, is that suggested to belafst yet?

[hearty crane]

[verbal marsh]

This is what I was doing prior to PR4 release... -_-;;

[fluid grotto]

not worth going H except blue now, purple/gold face just much more valuable

[verbal marsh]

~10 chips : 1 cube = feels bad man.. plus not reliably available, and involves RNG on return.

Just lemme buy chips at 1k/100gem ratio and I'll be happy.

[fluid grotto]

increasing cogni from H research could work too

[verbal marsh]

Gem shop addition would be easiest to implement too. I'd be surprised if other shops are coded to handle infinite quantities, and again H research is not reliable.

[fluid grotto]

the only way i see it on gem shop is as limited pack

which they alr did few times

[verbal marsh]

They sell infinite coins, cubes, oil already. Chips are the only remaining standard resource missing.

[fluid grotto]

possibly but doubt it, since cogni itself is there to wall, while cubes and coins are gachas related

selling them with another limited currency is only thing that makes sense

[naive cobalt]

@verbal marsh please send this suggestion via Belfast-bot by using !submit command in #bot-spam and following bot's instruction

[hearty crane]

They also sell infinite quick finishers... you know, the worst usable in the entire game. But yeah all of those seem aimed at appeasing/cashing in on the eastern Gatcha craziness.

[verbal marsh]

Which bot do I poke to suggest that they flag the incoming iM@S ships to count as Muse? (Haven't heard that they don't, but they do use Muse rigging according to the event stream, so it makes sense to do so.)

[glacial coral]

Make guilds more fun. For now it's only used to socialising which no one does and for the guild shop. Make guild pvp with other guilds of the same player size possible like a 5v5 excercise pvp style and maybe even throw in a 6 main 6 vangaurd fleet battle or make like a campaign for guilds so that guilds players and members can complete it for rewards (not guild effort but individual effort with maybe assisting ships from guild members)

[cursive horizon]

At least in my guild we don’t socialize cause of the absurd limitations on the message size/filtering. We just Discord instead, and post gifs/images in the actual guild chat.

Going to check the chat and have the game crawl for 10-15 seconds while the log catches up isn’t exactly great, either.

[rugged spire]

add an option in setting to hide the character when they using air strike/ salvo. Because the art is too big and i cant see the ground behind .

[eternal bronze]

this has been mentioned so many times already that i think it will never be fixed

gonna try to send a submit to belfast later about it so keep in touch

at #collected-feedback

[eternal bronze]

ok just sent it

hopefully they accept it

[scenic flower]

Before releasing more munition ships, could you please make them not completely useless, at least?

[modest island]

you never know this one might be more useful
im reserving judgement until datamines reveal how she is

[scenic flower]

Munition ships usefulness is determined by their gear. And their gear is meh.

[modest island]

you never know what the slots are gonna be since it is a collab ship

[cloud sable]

not really tbh, the problem with kashino wasnt really that munition ship gear was bad, it was just that her stat line was far too poor to use in general.
so theoreatically if the new munition ship had even slightly decent stats theyd be pretty usable
Given AL's history of collab ships though I doubt there will be anything groundbreakingly good but thats that.

[scenic flower]

I don't think they'll give some OKayish stats to munition ships. They'd better make them useful exactly as the munition ships, with good HP pool, maybe (so they wouldn't die fast and could survive at higher words).

[indigo holly]

ironically its Repair ships that sort of do that

they add 1 extra ammo to the fleet

[scenic flower]

Yeah, but someone still use repair ships?

[indigo holly]

i said ironically, not "just use a repair ship"

im saying, Repair ship adds ammo, but a munitions ship doesnt

which is weird

[modest island]

yeah as a solo backliner for 12-4 grinding

[scenic flower]

coz of AA, right?

[leaden sigil]

i'd rather see kashino get a retrofit for the butterfly rerun than a new munition ship, maybe with a retro she could be pretty good, especially if it adds another cargo slot

[fluid grotto]

munition is one of few that can directly buff bb, they have they own niche use, and as for boss fight buffer they dont really need to survive since their eff is floating

[scenic flower]

One or two cats are giving better direct buff to BBs, than a useless vanguard ship.

And not just the direct one, most of the time.

[fluid grotto]

it called min maxing

[scenic flower]

I think a good vangurad CL/CA/CB/DD will give more profit than another +35 FP to BBs.

[hearty crane]

We'll just need to wait for SR (and UR lol?) Munition ships to see their true worth. And merge AE and AR tech (even if this girl wont even help with that :/)

[scenic flower]

At least, they have to do something.

[raw quest]

kashino is mainly used for EX min maxing

[fluid grotto]

yea

[narrow sage]

part of the issue with ammo ships is the cargo gear's too weak for someting that only affects one fleet

the limit of one doesn't help. So as it stands it's better taking another ship as most normal ships with supporting skills A) tend to have more of an effect on her fleet and B) not be dead weight in combat. But it's not the first time we've gotten unit that's only good for waifu; just look at 99% of Royal Navy DDs.

[scenic flower]

You mean, 100%?

Well, there are tons of N-tier ships, but to make a separate class for them is... strange

[winter hearth]

We have ships buffing EXP for every ship type except BBs. I think it would be good idea to add one ship can do this role

[scenic flower]

Maybe

[blazing heart]

Idk why everyone says the issue is that the gear is weak lol
I don't think 10% FP for all BB and CB on top of lots of HP for the equipping ship is a weak gear.
The problem is that the munition ship is just a floating device that doesn't do anything aside from equipping those gears
So yeah it's more a combination of the ship itself being conlletely useless and the gear not being strong enough to justify using the ship

[scenic flower]

Coz if buffing the ship instead of gear, then what for? We already have the ships with average stats, that are buffing various classes. What is the point in munition ships then? If this is a different class, then it should give some nice buffs instead of being an average CL by stats.

[fluid grotto]

this the point of munition as for now

[hidden siren]

She isn't even average by stats. Her evasion and AA are objectively bad, while her FP is only really comparable to DD. The closest comparison I can find in tanking is Pensacola, and I haven't been able to make her work. Apologies, I forgot to turn off the @ on the reply.

[uncut bobcat]

analyze bp even u didnt use in enhancing

[eternal bronze]

i have a question if my submit by belfast about feedback and it doens't appear after days should i send it again?

[sinful cloud]

Was looking at #collected-feedback with the LB suggestion and dont mean for every ship but why do DRs have increased oil with every LB but URs dont?
You already have a massive resource sink into DRs and then have to pay more to use them

[blazing heart]

I don't get what you mean since DRs neither have LBs nor does their oil cost change with dev lvl

[sinful cloud]

might have remembered wrong but the point still stands
They should both cost 17 per sortie

[raw quest]

it's the same as UR, they can reach lv120 at 0lb and their oil cost increases as their level goes up

[blazing heart]

You mean why DRs are more expensive than URs then? Well PRs are also more expensive than SRs

[sinful cloud]

Didnt even noticed those tbh but then its really awful
The PR system is already terribly expensive and after the ships cost more to use them

[raw quest]

you could suggest it to @agile otter then

[fluid grotto]

higher quality products have higher maintain cost, makes sense

[sinful cloud]

You're right, will do in a bit
Kinda with my hands busy now

[blazing heart]

"Higher quality" tbh I don't really mind the higher cost too much myself, but I also think it would be fine/fair if they just cost the same as the rarity they kinda represent

[formal lion]

can we do away with duplicate research? like what is even the point of this, I don't need PR3 ship BPs and in no instance here can I get any PR4 ship BPs

[indigo holly]

damn bruh, 5 options and u still only got 3 different research choices

[sinful cloud]

Good to see that im not the only one suffering with PR's rng

[narrow sage]

Javelin kai and Esmiko are decent by DD standards (Icarus would be pretty if she had stats/etc of another faction's DDs)

[hearty crane]

The bad thing about Kashino that she got JUST the gear. Every other ship got something akin to said gear as skill. Then 2 more skills. Then their own gear and stats. But Kashino's skills are just terrible.

Also yeah, PR/DR and UR already start out with MLB oil costs, it'll still go up from leveling, but it wont from limitbreaking. So there's no reason not to stuff them full with Rainbow bullins ASAP. Of course PR/DR don't allow you to max them quite as fast... Leaving them (for me) in OPSI duty, with the only downside I need to put them in regular combat sometime to get affection from 90-100.

[sinful cloud]

Can we pls have the PR print purchase at the same time as the reset next update?
Was going to sleep but suddenly remembered about it since it wasnt there in the morning when I check things

Hurts to see the good PR change being affected by a dumb decision

[hearty crane]

In #collected-feedback it got 90 upvotes, 1 downvote. And nobody who knows why they picked 4AM in the first place.

[sinful cloud]

Its at midday (i think) for me and at that point im just working on smth or playing another game to let AL's timers do their thing, ends up easily forgettable

[blazing heart]

Just do it daily after reset then, that's how I do it too

[sinful cloud]

Gonna probably forget one day and being like that but really dont want to pass them on purpose

[copper nest]

I missed it two times already 🤣
Do something either move reset time to normal or add ! reminder that free bp is available

[sleek ore]

how do i create a suggestion card again...?

[indigo holly]

High Rarity focus research(gold ones ect.) need to have their minimum blueprint drops increased

8 hours for a gold and i get 3 BP's and then i do a Blue rarity in 2.5 hours and still get the same 3?

thats just bad design

[velvet adder]

yeah it should never be the same as others 1-2 3-4 5-6? like hello thats how math works

[uncut bobcat]

rework commision or scale up reward as level goes

[undone swift]

Azur Lane X Fast And Furious pls

[slate monolith]

[cursive horizon]

Does Fast & Furious even have female characters?

[gusty rapids]

we not going to take feedback and suggestions about certain topics:

1. New ships and content (events, skins, retrofits, etc);
   sorry but they ignore all such types of suggestions, new content ones I mean

so whether or not it could happen doesn't really matter, since they ignore such suggestions

[undone hull]

Family is stronger than gender divides.

[limber jolt]

I don't know if it's a coincidence but I just noticed that everytime I pick Q researches consecutively all I get after that are only Q or trash researches and then I pick face researches everytime I get the opportunity to bring it back to only face researches (with trash researches of course)
What I'm trying to say is: Is the rng managed by an AI for researches or is it just pure coincidence?

[hasty mountain]

I know this event is a rerun which is going to be canned forever as soon as it's over so it's whatever but, for the next event that follows this same template, when you hit retry please add the ##/15 count for the stages somewhere in the screen

[cursive horizon]

Agreed, I rarely keep mental track of how many I've done since they blend into each other after a few minutes. Having to go out and double check cause I can't recall if I've got 3 or however many left is almost as annoying as having to return to the preparation screen when I hit Retry.

[merry grove]

I really don't feel the research revamp is an improvement... especially for DR prints, their drop amount is still abysmal

[earnest mist]

It doesnt really look like an iron blood dorm to me. Might as well give an appropriate background

[sick oak]

Equipment is a bit lack luster. There is the handful of meta equips and then everything else that gets scrapped. A few ships deviate from meta equips some but generally the disparity between meta and non meta is great enough to never have a need to use anything else.

[cursive horizon]

I think all the "dormitory" scenes use that background, right? Even the commander, I think.

[winter hearth]

Let us see all phrases of PR ship after oath. I mean, I spent some gems, so I think this would be fair if I could listen all phrases of the ship

[raw quest]

dev25

[winter hearth]

I know. But if you give a ring, you can listen all phrases even without dev25

That's what I mean

[raw quest]

[inner frost]

We paying to skip content now?

[fluid grotto]

pay for dev30 pls

[winter hearth]

But I don't mean, it should be directly the dev 25 after giving a ring. I mean I should have possibility to listen all phrases of the ship in the game

Even if my PR is lower than dev 25

[raw quest]

life hack: use the wiki

[winter hearth]

in the game

[sinful cloud]

PR system is perfect, changing it is bad

[normal musk]

anyone else been getting trash PR drop rates recently ? After PR4 dropped i was getting at least 1, even 2 PR commissions for Azuma/Fred in each commission set. I assume this is what they meant by optimizing the drop rates for uncompleted remaining ships. But after the latest update 4 days or so ago, feel like its back to pre-PR4 drop rates

[naive cobalt]

No, you just been lucky.

Optimization removes face researches for ships you've completed FS5 for, which indirectly buffs rates for ships which you haven't yet, but it doesn't guarantee DR commissions each time.

[limber jolt]

I think pr3 got trashier than pr4 but it may just be bad luck

Rarely seeing face missions in a week (only blue ones tho) and not a single ur gear print in two weeks even tho I'm focusing on pr3 (I haven't even finished with the main 343 for pr3 ships)

[normal musk]

iv fully fated all my PR2 ships. just need fred and azuma prints. gotten 1 azuma commission today out of maybe 5 commissions ?

[blazing heart]

When you complain about your bad luck, but just don't know actual bad luck smh
Anyway I don't think I agree with oathing unlocking all the lines, I just think it's weird that the lines play in the game perfectly fine, just not in the archive, should imo either be that you can listen to all of them anyway or should not play in the game at all

[velvet adder]

tfw nobody really knows what bad or good luck is since we all just "maybe get x" from everything

[ionic matrix]

Would it be possible to add a toggle on/off for artillery support in Meta fights?

I've been trying to test out different comps to see how high I can push my damage with manual play, but the artillery support that's active right now makes the total damage higher than what my fleet is achieving, even with doing the fights right after analyzing coordinates (seems to be around 55k worth each fight). I think it'd be a nice QoL thing to be able to turn it on or off depending on whether or not you want/need it.

[blazing heart]

Instead just make a testing/practice mode with that option

[ionic matrix]

Either would work honestly

[normal musk]

Who's complaining ? Was asking if anyone has seen a trend in lower PR drop rates between PR4 launch and the the latest update that was sometime last week. For context, my fred went from lv 24-28 in a week to barely 12 prints over 5 or 6 days.......

[sinful cloud]

Been getting less since the changes, not even the latest patch
Mostly cause rarely getting face researchs now

[blazing heart]

I was just saying that one UR gear BP in 2 weeks and 1 Azuma in 5 refreshes really isn't that improbable
And I can assure you that you seeing less faces is just bad rng as a lot of ppl myself included are getting many face researches and are above 20 BPs for most PR4 ships (Most I've seen for DRs is 70/60 btw)
I agree that reducing the rng in research selection should be reduced though

[indigo holly]

at the very minimum gold rarity research needs to be buffed to actually be worth it

their minimum bp drops are way too low

purple i just as bad most of the time

but if im getting 3 bps from an 8 hour gold, and then follow it up with a blue of the same type of research and still get 3 blueprints? thats just stupid

[blazing heart]

Higher rarity face researches at least are fine now, I've seen the suggestion 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, but that'd be dumb if you had far better results from taking one 8h instead of 3 2:30, so the way they are now is good really

[limber jolt]

Not complaining, just pointing out about how pr2-3 is compared to pr4, cause I had more luck with that and I'm not even focusing on pr4 atm so idk if it's really luck or something else. Also most players are already grinding for pr4 so idk if there are players still grinding for pr2-3 that have actual feedback for it.

[indigo holly]

i can do 3 2:30's and get triple the amount i get in a gold, how is that fine right now

the minimum for a gold needs to be at least 5 or 6

im not talking their total chances, im saying their minimum drop

[blazing heart]

That's like saying you can win in the lottery with one try and not win if you try 5 times

[limber jolt]

I can't ask someone that is doing pr4 how is he doing with pr3 cause he's probably done or just jumped to pr4 research

[indigo holly]

gold 8 hour research should not be able to only give 3 BP's thats what im saying

[blazing heart]

If the min for gold was 5 BPs for example it would be like almost the max you can get from 3 blue researches

Yeah and I'm saying why shouldn't they

[indigo holly]

and right now the min is lower than that

whats the confusion there?

gold is almost never worth it due to how wide the drop margin is

[sinful cloud]

I would say to put every PR season as S1 for bps but then some certain ppl are just gonna be dumb and prefer to get fucked over with rng with resource waste instead of 10 consistent BPs per day for 3k gold
Still no clue whats their point behind "you just want everything for free" when the system is a rng mess thats nor easy or difficult, its annoyingly stupid

[blazing heart]

Lol gold is totally worth it, you get the same stuff as for 3 blues and what are the chances of getting 3 blues in a row?

[indigo holly]

id get more from 3 blues in a row

and it would take less time

[blazing heart]

But more gold
Also where is the proof that you'd get more?

[indigo holly]

this was a gold research

[astral mantle]

make all the Pr like Pr1 and you'll have whales being done with the ships in a few weeks

[indigo holly]

this was the very next blue

[blazing heart]

Lol and now? Am I supposed to send a pic of an 8h where I got 10 BPs and a 2:30 where I got 1 BP?^^

[indigo holly]

im saying

that the minimum needs to be higher

whats hard to understand about that

thats just logical

[blazing heart]

Tbh I dislike this cuz then my motivation to do research for gear would totally be gone

[high pond]

How come? the minimum is perfectly in line with blue research, 1 vs 3

[indigo holly]

there should not be overlaps between the highest of a the lowest rarity and the lowest of the highest rarity

[blazing heart]

What Delirium said

[sinful cloud]

Would take that over not being able to complete a ship for months when at that point theres gonna be smth better already

[astral mantle]

I'd personally rather not have the game turn into a whale competition

[blazing heart]

I don't get why you think that something that takes 3 times the time and 3 times the gold should yield more than 3 times the rewards on average

[sinful cloud]

In all honesty would remake the whole system to be an exp grind but they'll never make that so want at least some consistency

[indigo holly]

as it stands

the majority of the time, gold research is a bait

and a follow up gut kick

[blazing heart]

In your opinion

[indigo holly]

never mind cube research gold

[sinful cloud]

Or smth like the unlocking proccess, thats the only fun part of PR imo

[blazing heart]

Yeah I'm only talking face research rn, other gold research is often bad

[indigo holly]

there is a reason why its advised to avoid all gold and purple gold research

because, the blue, is simply miles better

as a whole, gold rarity research, if its not the 30 minute ones

is an absolute bait and waste of time

[high pond]

Gotta love the mental gymnastics

[blazing heart]

Okay I believe this is where our main disagreement stems from. Ever since PR4 I haven't seen that advised for DR face researches at least

[indigo holly]

that was referring to the cube researches

i just typo'd and failed to say that

[blazing heart]

Ah well yeah cube research is just weird. I'm afraid they'll simply nerf blue tho if someone complains

[indigo holly]

i avoid most gold face research now, since its not worth the 8 hour wait and throw of the dice

if i could spam nothing but blue research day in and day out

id be happy

since thats they only research with value

[sinful cloud]

Wont deny or agree that the researchs need tweaking but would be better to get smth for the researchs we want to do first
Focus is more like "focus" since it still gives researchs from other seasons and the duplicate researchs problem

[indigo holly]

the only benifit i gain from gold face research is the increased weapon blueprints

but seeing as thats not really their purpose

its a sour consolation prize

[blazing heart]

I'd advise you to do gold DR research, the chances of getting 3 blue DRs in a row are slim (Unless the end is timed badly ofc)

[indigo holly]

i did nothing but blue DR research for 3 days

only problem was it was all Hakuryu

[blazing heart]

You sound like you're just (okay, relatively) lucky with blue researches tbh^^

[indigo holly]

im unlucky in general

which is why i avoid gold face research

since the launch of PR4 ive not had a single gold face research be higher than 4

id rather sell all my cubes to the research demons in blue cube researches than do any others at this point

[blazing heart]

Yeah I think removing the face researches for already finished ships was a good step in the right direction, but that duplicates are still a thing...hasn't that been submitted ages ago?
And yeah only 2 guaranteed slots from the focused season is kind of a joke
I think it would be kinda great if there was for example always one forced G and one forced D slot or something like that

[sinful cloud]

Would be funny if they made the limits by the research cost
Blue 1-3 since 3k
Purple 5-8 since 5k and gold being 8k
Gold 8-11 since 8k

[indigo holly]

i have no issues with any of the current research caps, yes u can get lucky and get really good rewards, but waiting 8 hours to get less prints than any other research combination u could have done over those 8 hours is a punch the mouth

[blazing heart]

That just looks cursed
I mean the rewards are great atleast for purple and gold, but the scaling...

[indigo holly]

ey look 3 from a blue again

and then a new blue

ill correct myself there

it was only 3 due to the catch up

[blazing heart]

Lol so if you got 1 BP from 3 blues in a row that would feel better?
Also slowly this is becoming #trophy-room or something

[indigo holly]

it would make sense

it doesnt make sense only get 3 from a gold

[sinful cloud]

Ik it is, wasnt being serious
And do agree that the tweaks were a nice step but the main complain that I saw/felt wasnt directly the number of prints but the consistency you get them and like you said they did good with stop showing the maxed ships but that barely touched the problem

[indigo holly]

as its supposed to be better, not equal

getting 1 bp 3 times from blues would be logical

as its low rarity, u expect that kind of thing

but getting only 3 from a gold when its supposed to be better doesnt make sense

[blazing heart]

Wait so your problems would be fixed if they changed the colour of all researches to blue?^^

[inner frost]

Might as well remove purple and yellow since they are scams most of the time

[indigo holly]

what kind of backwards gymnastics is that

a higher rarity of something is supposed to denote something is better, so whats the point if its just equal

[sinful cloud]

Wouldnt be better to tweak the rewards of gold going by his problem instead of removing it?

[indigo holly]

a low rarity thing and a high rarity thing should not overlap in quality

[inner frost]

It would be better, but it seems like we are allergic to doing so

[indigo holly]

there should not be an overlap between the best blues and the worst golds

purple is supposed to be that overlap

it shouldnt just skip purple

[limber jolt]

oh I think I get it, so you're saying that 3 blue shouldn't be equal to 1 gold but it should reward more as it's of a higher rarity?

[blazing heart]

Yeah right...you hate the ships in this game too right?
In research the colour just denotes the length and cost of the research not the quality

[indigo holly]

im saying that 1 blue shouldnt be able to match 1 gold

cause ive had it happen numerous times

and im sick of it

[indigo holly]

as a wiki contributor

are you really going to say they dont denote rarity?

[fierce sonnet]

you shouldnt count bonus or catchup prints in the total print count btw because well theyre bonuses

[blazing heart]

I said quality not rarity

[sinful cloud]

So for example
Blue giving 1-5 so gold should give 5-10 and purple would give anything in between, if I understand it fully?

[blazing heart]

No, there you still got 5 as overlap, would be like now with 3 as overlap

[limber jolt]

rn the system is working like 3x min blue (3) = 1 min gold (3) and 3x max blue (9) = 1 max gold (9+extra from the half an hour remaining)

[sinful cloud]

Oh right

[limber jolt]

same goes for purple

[blazing heart]

Problem is that it wouldn't be possible to make Predator happy in a senseful way without some major tweaks to BP drop rates that would probably have some pretty drastic consequences for total BP gain

[indigo holly]

u mean increasing the minimum of gold from 3 to just be 4 or 5 would never be possible without breaking the game?

damn, didnt realise the game was so close to being in shambles

[sinful cloud]

When I asked Restart about the non catchup bonus for the research data gathering thing, he said to count them
Now im confused if ppl being sending them with or without and thinking the values might end up borked

[indigo holly]

the max of 1 blue should not overlap the minimum of 1 gold

nobody can ever change my mind on that

[limber jolt]

would be nice to know the probability of getting the lowest rewards and the highest from any research and the only suggestion from it would be to give it the same probability instead of a curve if it even exists, idk how the sheet is doing

[blazing heart]

No, but my senseful wouldn't apply to that because I absolutely disagree with you that gold should average better than blue

[indigo holly]

oh hey look at these handy spreadsheets on the wiki that show the gold D research statistically gives less blueprints per hour than the blue

its almost like the gold research really is worthless afterall

[blazing heart]

Yeah all those new spreadsheets on the wiki

[indigo holly]

should a Gold rarity ship perform better than a blue rarity ship?

[blazing heart]

Btw I always send with bonus I mean it only makes sense to count them since in the end that's what you get
And I believe that particular sheet just averages it all and doesn't do any further fancy analysis

Does Mikasa outperform Nevada retro in solo main fleet?
Tbh I wouldn't mind some actually useful elites from an event for example

Anyway good night

[indigo holly]

lots of Elites have value

what does that have to do with Blue's

[blazing heart]

Nevada is common
Just saying elite cuz last event with rares was quite a while ago

[indigo holly]

ill never actually understand why Mikasa is gold rarity

she is pre WW1

fairly certain the Nevada class was built after her, so that little song and dance really doesnt make sense as a whole

[fierce ember]

she is an old ingame ship,if you actually played the game you would see that older ships in comparison to newer ships,even "gold" have plain worse designs in terms of skills or stat distribution
and at her release she wasnt as bad
its just that if developers cared to update older ships that is not via retrofit it would matter
and right now rarity means nothing to even care

[indigo holly]

if i actually played the game

im not really talking about her in game

also ive played since before PR2 was a thing in JP, im referring to the fact that Mikasa was built in the 1890's, and the Nevada class being built in the 1910's would be more advanced than her

im simply stating that Mikasa being a gold rarity ship is odd

and never mind the fact that the comparison was between Mikasa and Nevada not newer ships

[fierce ember]

if the game really cared about how they were in the history,things would be different,but they mostly rely on how known the ship is or just a personal bias towards stuff

[sinful cloud]

Spoot and Avrova hiding before getting dragged
I mean if we go by build year for perfomance then we would most likely have the game controlled by DDs, CVs and subs

[unique adder]

ok so i think it would be cool if u could increase ships skill lvls by buying a rainbow skill book from the shop u can increase the skills lvl by 1 and continue to send ships to class with reg gold books

rainbow books would cost cores

prototype shop would have the rainbow books

rainbow book would limit break 1 skill on any ship

[hearty crane]

I got more since thursday, almost makes it seem D wasn't nerfed for a bit...

[unique adder]

maybe 4000 prototype cores for 1 book

[hearty crane]

Why? That's the point of higher rarity. Gold is rarer too. Nobody complains training gives more from T3 books than equal time spend with other books...

[indigo holly]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

say it again for the people in the backrow

[modest island]

yeah i agree gold/purple researches should have better rewards that justify the extra cost/time

[hearty crane]

This. With people here clamoring Gold is great and "proving" that with UL screens, and including bonus drops in the base value drop I'll just trust my own research, not any values provided by others.

[limber jolt]

Btw why do 30 min projects give just 1 catch up print? Shouldn't it give more since it's rare?

[copper nest]

something something based on time spent on research

[limber jolt]

oh ok

[sinful cloud]

Wait, must have had a brainfart earlier
It counts the rewards for time spent and not the cost? Did they seriously not only gave piles of rng to the stupid system but timegated it too? Fucking hell, cant even blame anyone for asking for free prints with that godawful idea of theirs

[astral mantle]

they're talking about the pr2 catchup prints

[sinful cloud]

Well guess the brainfart wasnt earlier

Being the catch up ones makes sense

[fluid grotto]

research bad,pls make it better

[uncut bobcat]

two research slots

[merry grove]

I got 3 8hr DR research and all 3 of them gave only 3 DR prints... wth is this? Where improvement?

[kindred vessel]

3 each? That’s a huge improvement

[fierce sonnet]

3 is greater than 1 i see that as an improvement

[kindred vessel]

Yeah pre-PR4 you would have only been guaranteed 1 each per research

[indigo holly]

its more of a point of the researches seem to have gotten skewed to only give minimum drop lately

cause i get the same thing, where my golds only give the minimum 3

[kindred vessel]

could be they adjusted the percentage slightly since PR4 launched as there’s already people with Dev16 ships

[indigo holly]

idk how that happened i dont have enough for anyone to get passed dev 10

[crude pasture]

UR cores in weeks that end before the month does should not give an overcap warning, since there is no way for you to use them

[blazing heart]

Cuz it would be annoying, gold already is a good choice because as I said the chance to get three blue DR faces in a row is very low, by now making gold better you just cuck anyone who doesn't have the luck to get golden DR faces, I don't need research to be even more of a lottery than it already is

[indigo holly]

then remove different rarities like you suggested

if there is no reason for different rarities to be better than each other and "they should all be equal"(as again, you stated)

there is no point to them

[thick pine]

Enemies have to fall over and finish exploding before they're treated as defeated.
Player is treated as defeated first before triggering their fall over and explode animation.
When both ships are hit at the same time, the player always loses because of this. Many such cases in PvP.
No, I don't like this.

[indigo holly]

you realise you also just counter argued yourself right? "by making gold better you cuck anyone that doesnt get them" so what ur saying is, those people who ever get them and get excited to finally get one, should feel robbed when it turned out to be a waste cause its no better than the blue's they were already doing?

[blazing heart]

You have that feeling for 90% of the research projects there are

[indigo holly]

getting 3 blue faces in a row is significantly less rare than getting a gold, the fact that you literally proved everyone elses point with your own counter argument is hilarious

[winter hearth]

What about to rework Intel in OS? I mean, everything you need is 188/188/144 so everything what's over is practically useless.
So my suggestion is, every Intel you gain over this 188/188/144 will go to the fourth Intel "Luck". Luck Intel don't give you buffs in the fight, but it gives after. More Luck Intel = better chance to have better drop.
On this way it will make sense to farm Intel after 188/188/144 and there will not be 400/400/400 Intel that practically bring you nothing

[indigo holly]

wow its almost like research needs to be buffed or something

[blazing heart]

I'm not saying research doesn't need a rework lol

[indigo holly]

as you have already stated, according to you, "gold researches should not be better than simply doing the same thing with 3 blues, they should always be equal"

then just remove the gold ones

if they arent meant to be better, why do they exist

just change all research to be the same shit blue ones

at least then nobody will feel excited or robbed

[blazing heart]

Also I don't believe that getting 3 blue Ägir researches in a row is more probable than getting 1 gold one

[indigo holly]

you argument falls in on itself anytime you make a counter argument at this point

oh really?

[winter hearth]

This was earlier. It was no sense to do purple and gold researches because they were equal to blue

[indigo holly]

considering i did nothing but blue face research

for 3 days straight, without seeing a single gold or purple?

[primal valve]

increase to 4.5k or 5k

[indigo holly]

i know, thats what Thorin seems to advocate for, to me it seems like he is one of the people that never gets gold, so he wants gold to stay being bad so he doesnt feel left out

he wants gold to be worthless compared to spamming blue

[primal valve]

4k per month is not enough

[blazing heart]

Anyway I'm done with this discussion

[ornate basin]

I just want to say, reading all the discussion for the past 24 hours, I have gathered little to no actual feedback that is helpful to us

[indigo holly]

gold being buffed to have better drop rates would literally be better for everyone involved

there is not a reason for it to not be better than it is

its supposed to be good, thats why its high cost high time investment

[primal valve]

whats the command for belfast bot?

[indigo holly]

its the entire premise behind them

[ornate basin]

if you want to keep arguing/debating back and forth, please do so in another channel then come back here with the consensus, or keep your feedback to Belfast bot by submitting it to her directly if you dont want your feedback to have any comments against or in support of it

[blazing heart]

There's !feedback

[primal valve]

for suggestion

[ornate basin]

If you want to suggest new things for the game - please use !submit command in #bot-spam or send a direct message with it to @Belfast.

[primal valve]

thanks

[indigo holly]

ive stated that the gold face research minimum blueprints should be increased to at the very minimum 4 but 5 would be fairer, but Thorin throws up a huff about how gold isnt supposed to be better than doing a large number of blue's

thats proper feedback that should be considered helpful

[ornate basin]

thank you

[indigo holly]

Gold Face Research minimum = too low
please increase to reasonable amount to denote its higher cost and rarity

[fluid grotto]

do anyone here really do research? lmao

[ivory pewter]

no but let me complain

[merry grove]

yea the gold face research, at least for DR, is ridiculous! I had 3 8hrs Haku's research and 1 Agir's and all 4 of them literally only gave 3 each. Is 3 the maximum you get from a gold DR face research now? If 3 is the minimum why is the chance of getting the minimum amount so goddamn high? Especially after the changes made to the research that there won't be any chance of getting other ship's bp so I'm double fucked by high cost and long research time to only get a maximum of 3 bp. Great!
But of course, giving feedback here is basically pointless. Dev only listen to china, only when china complains then they act

[kindred vessel]

They don’t read this channel. They read the actually submitted feedback. Complaining in here and not actually submitting any feedback is the same as screaming into a pillow. This channel is for hashing out an idea before submitting it.

[merry grove]

When did any "ideas" from EN ever get the Dev to implement it into the game that isn't already given by the Chinese players

[kindred vessel]

…quite a few? Fleet Lock in OpSi is the first one I can think of off the top of my head.

Plus, Devs don’t say if something was added due to feedback so good luck figuring out what was changed due to feedback.

[indigo holly]

i hope my submission for a buff to the 305mm Skc AP Vanguard variant gets implemented

having only 75% mod vs heavy as a near BB caliber AP gun is illogical

especially when the 310mm HE gun has 75% mod

right now its sitting at a very high amount of upvotes so who knows

[kindred vessel]

The highly upvoted stuff is more likely to be looked at by the Devs from what I’ve heard

[narrow sage]

it's silly to make an Ammo type subtype but only have 5% more on med armor (CB AP^ compared to regular CB AP)

Though that's partialy due to regular CB AP being the same as regular CA AP (the 283 gun that only german 'pocket battleships' (certain CAs) and large cruisers can use)

[merry grove]

You know the whole text box situation that it blocks the skins, I suggested to edit/remove the text box last year and it got lot of upvotes on the collected feedback channel. But guess what, they only implement it after the Japanese rage on twitter during VV event

[narrow sage]

money speaks and a sizable Chunk of EN wear their F2P status like a symbol of pride.

[kindred vessel]

EN bunch of cheapskates so of course Devs don’t listen to EN as much

[ornate basin]

this is not true

[kindred vessel]

They actually read this cesspool?

[ornate basin]

the staff read the channel, but if you make a feedback that is to implement something rather than voice a concern or i.e., submitting to belfast is better because it is more proper to hold the idea in a card than in a discord channel where we have that suggestion needing to be remembered by key words

[sinful cloud]

And thats why they players feel that they dont inplement anything from here
Wouldnt cost much to make some notes

[indigo holly]

which is why i didnt even bring up the AP Heavy mod of the Ägir gun here at first, i skipped right to making a submission

seeing it climb higher than 50 upvotes in roughly 2-3 hours was nice

it especially didnt make sense to me as someone who actually plays Ägir on World of Warships, and know just how much hurt she can put someone with "heavy armour" in

[fierce ember]

wanna bring up one little QOL that is not worth the trelo card,weird its not been like it since the start
mostly refering to suruga-like events as an example
1)why can you not select multiple backline and vanguard ship types at the same time with it being locked for only one per selection?in events that require you to build a new fleet regardless its a pain,that also could be done in hardmode as well along with regular fleet building menu
we already have that system for doms or commissions,just apply filters in there and we are done(to prevent selecting things like a BB on vanguard slot),twice as less clicks and less searching in the dock

2)why can you not just press some whatever X button with a list and just add already existing fleet to event fleet formation that has no requirement locks in the event?
we also already have this feature in the game btw,but for some unknown reasons its barely even used,instead we have "advice" button that just doesnt work the way we want for the most part
people already probably just fill it out with the same fleet they already use,theres very little of those who build entirely new fleet to max things out,then why not just let us fill what already is a thing?
at least we dont need to select equipment as well

3)"adjust" feature that was already introduced and is in the game but is not there for some reason?you have to re-assign all the ships in that class if you messed up the positioning

[void schooner]

For 3, you go to the battle prep screen after selecting your fleet. You can reposition your ships there.

[hearty crane]

We get punished more for H-whales that always existed? Since the D income is pretty pitiful (and yet still the best print income that ain't cubes)...

[copper nest]

Aquila's skin is one of the biggest offenders, animation is super long (omg pay to win???!?!?!??!?! )

[sinful cloud]

Longer than NJ's base?

[copper nest]

Probably? Both are long

[kindred vessel]

Amagi’s special defeat animation (it doesn’t always trigger) I’m pretty sure is the longest

[hoary warren]

Compared with Aquila on SD Viewer

Aquila's defeat animation is way longer than Amagi's

[humble ruin]

Z-Flag when

[unique wind]

Sorry if I brought other game, but is it possible for AL to be as optimized as PGR (regardless from the PGR sh1tshow)? I'm impressed by the PGR performance.

[hoary warren]

Actually not

@sinful cloud @copper nest

[copper nest]

oh

I know amagi has long one on skin too, but never heard about or seen special rare animation (and I don't think it's available on any tool to view?)

[hoary warren]

I think they meant skin animation

[kindred vessel]

She has 2 different death animations

Same as Kaga and Akagi

[hidden siren]

3 was already added to the known bugs, awhile back. Go add a plus here: https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/474210478311211029/863392364898811955
Apologies, I forgot to turn off the @ in the replies. Does anyone know a way to set the default state to no @?

[fierce ember]

its not really a bug when devs outright didnt bother updating it

[blazing heart]

There is no way to change the default as of now

[hidden siren]

They didn't bother updating it, but it's something they intended to do. That's why it's in the known bugs.

[hidden siren]

Lame, but thank you.

[winter hearth]

What about to add some rewards to this medals? Something like rewards for stars in OS. It can be banal cubes and gold, but also it could be permanent buff for ships. Like for example medals for nations could give a little buff of stats to the whole fleet, like Tech Lab. Also there could be something like permanent exp buff or skill training time reduction.
I think if medals will have at least small rewards, it will bring some interest to gain them, because now I guess, not everyone can remember that they exist because they are kinda useless.

[sinful cloud]

Would leave the ship buffs to tech lab but I like the skill training/exp buff idea

[blazing heart]

Medals are there to flex so idrc, but I guess a lil buff wouldn't hurt
Also new lvls for feet tech when?
New lvls for medals when?
Why tf do those faction medals have "earn 2 million exp with xy ships" when they have "get 12 xy ships to 120" as if it was possible to get them to lvl 120 without earning like 30m exp anyway...

[sinful cloud]

Guess its just in case anyone is crazy enough to get them to 120 with dorm only

[blazing heart]

[hidden siren]

Isn't that how everyone levels up submarines?

[obtuse breach]

You guys level submarines?

[modest island]

yes

my 4th lvl 120 is a submarine

[blazing heart]

[velvet adder]

I only have 1 little suggestion

ESSEX OATH SKIN

[blazing heart]

They don't take suggestions for that

[velvet adder]

Sadge

[cursive horizon]

There needs to be a better way of leveling submarines besides constantly moving them around for extra oil in stages, hence why I've said a couple times now there needs to be an option of having them work like they do in Operation Siren. They still cost oil to deploy but can be launched from anywhere on the map. Even if you have to bump up the oil a tad to account for them moving, it'd still be better than having to manual them all over the place in order to actually use them outside of the 2-3 nodes they default to.

[silver cliff]

rainbow blueprints are p2w now? smart.

[astral mantle]

it's a one time pack, and aren't BPs usually in lucky bags anyways?

[normal lily]

yes IIRC

[sinful cloud]

Grab Nürn, go back and forth in their zone until you get ambushed
No need to waste extra oil and extra xp

[blazing heart]

Also I fail to see any rainbow prints there

[sinful cloud]

But still agree with the idea of them being able to move freely

[crude pasture]

there's five PRIV selector prints in the left image

[blazing heart]

Yeah but those usually can't be used for DRs

[raw quest]

???

[sinful cloud]

Also wanted to ask, Z2 is getting a new skin but is it gonna rerun or stuck with the collab like Sara's Kizuna outfit
Would love to get it someday but no money atm and since collabs never rerun

[cursive horizon]

I never consider the possibility of using ambushes. I normally avoid them like the plague, will try this. Thanks.

[hearty crane]

Best way to level subs is OPSI anyway, no oil cost either. Just pop them in when they cost 0AP and profit.

Also the 5 prints shown are DR. I'm more interested in what that gear lab drop box is... not that I would ever pay for ingame itemry.

[blazing heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/866984894105387038/unknown.png

Is what you can get from that box

[sinful cloud]

Meh

[winter hearth]

Why are you against buffs like from Tech Lab? It will be fine if we got extra 4-6 AVI/RLD/FP/TRP for whole fleet from national medals. (I just want to know how can I improve my suggestion so a lot of people will like that)

Or even something like 0.25% buff for all stats, so with full medals you can gain 2% buff for all stats

[sinful cloud]

Just dont feel that it should be overstacked with buffs and having the same as an already existing thing specific for that takes the unique factor of it

[winter hearth]

That means it would be better to suggest only something like exp buff, training time reduction etc. Without something that affects fights?

[sinful cloud]

Pretty much, for more stat buffs they should expand the fleet tech instead like someone said here

[winter hearth]

Yeah, I can agree

Than I will think in the direction of out fight buffs

[sinful cloud]

Was checking if there is medals for spending coins/oil but there isnt
Thinking about faster resource generation with them

[winter hearth]

This can be for medal for daily missions 🤔

I surely need to make a grid with all medals and buffs are possible to them

[fluid grotto]

bout time for medal update yeah, silver/gold factions and rainbow ssr drop

[zinc acorn]

Please allow EX lines on other skins as well. It really feels unfair that I spent money on a skin and getting a downgrade because using that skin loses EX lines.

For instance, Howe, Le Malin and Suruga.

[cursive horizon]

I agree that outfits should acknowledge your oath rings. Heck, I wish the default one would, too.

[winter hearth]

I made a grid with some ideas to the medallion buffs. What do you think, should I change something?
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Ars1FYJocF-bgR17BdebqD2OgcmD

[indigo holly]

i actually just noticed something about my 305mm Heavy mod buffs submission that i left out

not only do all 3 CB guns share the same 75% despite being large caliber guns and one being HE

but one CA gun also has an 85% mod vs heavy where Ägir's 305(which should be hitting heavy harder) doesnt

i think adjusting it to 80% or 85% would be fair considering its a CB gun not a CA gun

80% would make it roughly equal to the USN 203mm from the gear lab, 85% would make it slightly better

[arctic siren]

Anchorage is stated as a CL instead of a CA here

[hidden siren]

Is it possible to grant submarines a 360* firing arc. It’s currently possible to get U-101 too far forward to actually target the boss ship.