gameplay-help

[timid beacon]

NO WAYY nice Perseus coming soon for me

[solar sapphire]

Because since it's been 3 years many things have changed

[undone plover]

just careful prioritize limited stuff first not perma stuff

[soft raft]

Get Aquila/Volga instead
Perseus isn't really worth it these days

[timid beacon]

Damn so there are better healers now

[noble pawn]

You can just use any that have specific type for stats i.e Traf for torp and Eld for EVA

[solar sapphire]

These are my UR

[tulip tinsel]

4 zwei dupes

[solar sapphire]

Basically here only Soyuz is from the new ones

[noble pawn]

4 BisZ for whoooo

[solar sapphire]

I do remember I was trying to pull for the SR but got no luck

I don't remember who was the SR of that event

[undone plover]

zwei and soyuz and finish up yorktown II with perma pity imo
zwei with dupes NOT bulins

[eternal basalt]

You need 2 BisII to finish her up, don't need the other 2

[solar sapphire]

But basically I have all UR but Shinano and Shimakaze from the old ones and from Unzen onwards all the UR

[strong tartan]

Is there also a reason why you're keeping two vanguards

[solar sapphire]

Because I don't like to scrap UR, so they will remain there

[undone plover]

where is moskva then ?
if u have moskva can skip soyuz i suppose

[solar sapphire]

Who is Moskva?

[undone plover]

the latest UR

[solar sapphire]

I came back 3 days ago

[noble pawn]

Aw hell nah he skipped

[undone plover]

oh

[strong tartan]

I mean it's not like he could control when he came back

[eternal basalt]

Then I hope you have deep pockets

[solar sapphire]

Don't worry, if it happens... I know how to deal with it

[strong tartan]

You have 4 available dock space I hope you know how to deal with that

[solar sapphire]

Yeah, because I was farming today, currently I have 14 dock space free

Ans around 15 purple bulins and 2 gold ones

[noble pawn]

U can just delete those elite bullins if u don't need it

[solar sapphire]

Don't worry, I will just level purple units so I need to use them again

Never scrap a bulin you may need later

But in general, I should focus on Yorktown II and Soyuz?

[noble pawn]

YorktownII paired well with Lexington II or Essex
BB Flag can be Kearsarge or Lion

[solar sapphire]

Wait, what do you mean by finish Yorktown with perma pity?

[solar sapphire]

I don't have any of those two

[timid beacon]

Aquila better than Perseus?

[undone plover]

u only need 1 more copy for her
when perma pity slowly builds up when u do daily pulls u should get enough to hit the perma pity 400/400
claim yorktown and MLB her then

[solar sapphire]

Currently my flag is kinda Jean Bart along with Ulrich Von Hutten and either Essex or Independence

[noble pawn]

Soyuz if you have Nakhimov for NP Anti-Heavy boss fleet

[hard dock]

Is Perseus good for pvp

[strong tartan]

Perseus' damage takes a free fall after her preloads due to her weird reload debuff

[solar sapphire]

All the units I'm needing are new

[strong tartan]

No

[solar sapphire]

Then who are those two bulins for?

[hard dock]

and ig Percy's eff isn't that great either

[eternal basalt]

She's TERRIBLE for PvP

[hard dock]

why though that can like vipe the vanguard

[strong tartan]

Not really when the entire enemy vanguard is supposed to stall the battle

Perseus to a laffii/eldridge/lyme vanguard is like throwing a water balloon at a tank and expecting it to do something

[exotic wren]

#pvp lurkers can help you a lot more, but no I'd put other preloaders before her, heck I'd put hiryuu/NJ with repair before her

[timid beacon]

I really though Perseus was good 😭

[solar sapphire]

Time flies

[soft raft]

She used to be good back when Unicorn retrofit didn't exist

[strong tartan]

well it has been 6 years since her release and 4 years since unicorn so

[timid beacon]

So Volga is better than Perseus then

[solar sapphire]

So basically who I have to use the bulins for? You said Zwei no, neither with Yorktown, but I assume you meant Soyuz?

[undone plover]

Save until u have 4 and come back to ask
Or save for may UR(s)

[lethal jolt]

i want to do a iron blood team what should i use

[strong tartan]

In general yea both as a healer and as a dmg dealer

[timid beacon]

Roon is a must

[strong tartan]

Tho who is using Perseus for damage

[hard dock]

wait you alr have Zwei copies to mlb zwei

[solar sapphire]

Since I'm a returner I might soon have 4, in that case, who should I max?

[undone plover]

Of what u have rn soyuz is best imo

[timid beacon]

Best 16 dollars I’ve spent getting roon for sure

[solar sapphire]

I see...

[wind hazel]

that's crazy

[hard dock]

get her skin too

[strong tartan]

interesting

[wind hazel]

oath her too

[timid beacon]

Wish she had more

[solar sapphire]

Alright, I will try maxing Soyuz asap

Also, if I'm planning on getting Essex retrofit I can actually max her rn? Like, from 120 to 125

[strong tartan]

I'm assuming you don't have her retro item

[timid beacon]

Level wise yea but you need to get this one item to retrofit her

[solar sapphire]

No, I don't, but I plan to whenever that happens

[noble pawn]

Sure, why not? You need atleast maxed her to fully utilize her anyway

[timid beacon]

Essex herself is good from my experience at least I know the retrofit version is a whole lot nicer

[solar sapphire]

Cool, give me a moment, I'll send my roster this time, but just 2 screenshots because the whole amount is ridiculous

[timid beacon]

Also a lot of t3 carrier plans…

[solar sapphire]

Basically this is what I normally use, it is better to give context than just tell it

[timid beacon]

Sex user

[solar sapphire]

You could say that, yes

[timid beacon]

Damn you got allot of good stuff

[solar sapphire]

For OpSi normally I use a 3 CV

[solar sapphire]

I'd show more but I don't want to commit flood

[noble pawn]

What content you want to achieve?

[timid beacon]

How long have you been playing?

[exotic wren]

Dude's been here since I was last active

[solar sapphire]

I don't really have an objective right now, I just came back because I missed the game, it's been so long I forgot about most stuff

[wind hazel]

you should show everything. open a thread and dump your dockyard in it

[solar sapphire]

Alright, if that is fine I will do that

But in general, aside from PR and DR I have all ships from the time I started playing up to the moment I left not counting on Indomitable

Shimakaze and Shinano hadn't rerun either while I was playing

[wind hazel]

nobody in this world is gonna know what you have or not. start dumping your screenshots in a thread

[solar sapphire]

Alright, my bad

[noble pawn]

There's major content focus like story/mission progression to World 14/15/16, Operation Siren/Hard Arbiter, or META Fight so it's better to narrow it down

[solar sapphire]

How do you open a thread here?

[timid beacon]

Go to gameplay-help hold the channel

Scroll down and threads show up

[solar sapphire]

All the dock I have

In advance, sorry for the large amount of screenshots

[timid beacon]

If I remember someone wanted to see it idk

[solar sapphire]

And the many copies of different ships, I've come back recently and I have to actually clean that mess myself

[flint arrow]

Any tips fleet wise for 13-2 hard? 1st fleet is mob and it does fine enough in getting me to boss. But boss fleet gets giga destroyed by the boss ,particularly the backline just gets melted

[viscid swift]

well it would help to get some actual AA in there

not sure what your airspace control value is either bit I wager it's not above Air Superiority

[flint arrow]

its air parity

[viscid swift]

could also do better in taking down the boss quicker than NJ, Implacable, and Kearsarge

[viscid swift]

yeah that's bad, should be Air Superiroity at least

[flint arrow]

so replace some vanguard in boss fleet ig?

[viscid swift]

wrote this for W13 normal mode but the same still applies

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide#chapter-13

[soft raft]

Maybe also yeet Kear for a actual carrier

[viscid swift]

just with higher requirements

[viscid swift]

honestley create better fleets as a whole, they're kind of janky

[flint arrow]

do i want 3 bbs instead?

[soft raft]

Fuck no

[late flame]

lol

[soft raft]

This is plane hell and you want 0 CV? Your goose is cooked

[flint arrow]

ah i cant go 3 bbs anyway lol nvm

[forest palm]

3 BB stops working after world 11

[flint arrow]

i dont have another good AA carry than sandy

[viscid swift]

well stick to W12 then

not that much incentive to do W13 hard mode anyway

[forest palm]

CVs do the bulk of AA either way

[flint arrow]

trafalgar would do as the AA carry for boss fleet?

i have her and she rated 3 in AA in that link

still have to finish leveling her though

[viscid swift]

she has above average AA though she's not exactly an AA carry

[frail stump]

returning player here, pretty lost on what to do. Pretty capped on oil rn, whats the best way to spend them? is there a new farming stage rn and what is a support fleet?

[viscid swift]

farm Chapter 12 really as usual

[frail stump]

was it 12 4?

[viscid swift]

and if you're not there start progressing there

12-1 or 12-4, personal preference

[frail stump]

is there like a big difference between the 2?

[sweet delta]

Support fleet is for chapter 15 and 16

[frail stump]

just wondering are the event stages for this one already closed?

[ivory pawn]

Yep, they're closed.

[soft raft]

Yop
the event for that ended basically 17 hours ago

[slow fox]

That's awesome

[frail stump]

oh yeah one more thing where do i farm these again?

[viscid swift]

weekly pack, OpSi exchange shop

[frail stump]

aight2 thanks

[weary edge]

what is a wishing well? ive heard about it but havent seen it yet

which is weird because ive been playing for half a year now

[weary gust]

It's like a real wishing well, you throw stuff in hoping for something and get nothing.
You can pick two ships to get a rate up, but only ones currently in the perma pool. New players shouldn't bother with it, they're mostly useful for if you're only missing a handful of ships that are also in the permapool.

It only happens like once a year.

[strong tartan]

Isn't it twice a year

[stark quiver]

It is

[weary gust]

Idk maybe it's twice. It happens on anni is all I know.

[weary edge]

how long does it usually run for?

[atomic abyss]

CN Anni and En Anni

So 3 weeks and 2 weeks respectively

[weary edge]

ah, so right before i started playing 😭

[stark quiver]

💀

[atomic abyss]

You'll have one soon ig

[stark quiver]

Who do I pick in ww

[weary edge]

although i cant imagine it being all that useful for early-midgame players

since usually those players (me included) dont really have the spare cubes for that

[stark quiver]

I was early-midgame and it was important

[atomic abyss]

It is extremely valuable to early-mid game players
...if they could actually spare the resources at least (very unlikely)

Well for EN Anni maybe you could squeeze a little bit

[weary edge]

cause it's like, why spend cubes there for characters who are included in the same pools as limited UR banners

[atomic abyss]

But for CN Anni unlikely

[stark quiver]

becuause the characters you choose in ww has rate up

and youll be lucky if you get some off rates on limited UR banners

[weary edge]

that's usually all i get lol

when is cn anniversary

[soft raft]

May

then EN in Aug and JP in Sept

[stark quiver]

im sure you do
its also really good for getting perma ships with good tech like aquila for +1 reload obtain and the other hms mf

i have quite a few to choose from

[zenith heron]

Me hoping for a Zuihou rerun
Which curious when will it be?

[weary edge]

so like, do we got any events between then and now? or is it just gonna be nothing burger events for the next 2 months

[stark quiver]

idk

also, when was kamikaze farmable in a map
or whens the last time she was

[viscid swift]

read my name

we also probably have the DOA collab rer-rerun next month

[weary edge]

collect my pages ahh vibe

[soft raft]

Definetly will have SR banners
Maybe a UR rerun as well if they feel like it
DOA collab likely next month too

[viscid swift]

was she ever?

[weary edge]

what's doa

[viscid swift]

Dead or Alive

[weary edge]

never heard of it

[sweet delta]

Dead on Arrival

[weary edge]

the 2017 movie?

[soft raft]

Nop

[weary edge]

i tried searching it up and all i got were results for a british pop band from 1979

[soft raft]

Look at the second wikipedia link listed

[weary edge]

al had a collab with this game? this game looks like a 90s era fighting game 😭 feels like it does not match with al at all

[viscid swift]

I mean yeah

[weary edge]

lol, any of them useable?

[soft raft]

It's a very famous and long running fighting game franchise (Most recent game was 2019 and there's a new one being announced) and pretty women go brrrrr but that's for a discussion that's not for this channel

[viscid swift]

About as usable as ships from 2020 can be

[soft raft]

Honoka is a rare case of a healer BB but pales in comparison to regular healers even during her time
I think Luna was brought up as a solid mobbing option

Everyone else I don't really remember

[weary edge]

ig ill pray for a ur rerun then

[soft raft]

Honestly if DoA collab is next month, we prob wont have enough room for a UR Rerun before CN Anniv UR

[weary edge]

true, might be better for me to just amass my cube stock before it hits

do we got a prediction for cn anni faction?

[viscid swift]

It would mean Alsace gets under the 2 year mark and we can't have that

[humble citrus]

Is the new 16-4 clear mode the best stage for coin farming?

[viscid swift]

haven't checked the numbers yet

[atomic abyss]

What does best even mean in this context

[stark quiver]

16-4 got clearing?

[atomic abyss]

Cos I feel that like

If you are really grinding w16 or w15 for coins

[stark quiver]

oh shit it did
@viscid swift hi cheekyman, what fleet and gear are good for 16-4 auto

[atomic abyss]

It's just stupid cos you're forced to use max or near max-level ships

[stark quiver]

but it might be the best stage for coin farming

[viscid swift]

what did you use to clear W16?

[atomic abyss]

^

[stark quiver]

i forgot

but it was pretty shit

[viscid swift]

anyway
Mob: I used Raffaello, Cowpens, Aquila, Laffey 2, Shimanto, Z52

[atomic abyss]

Imo best is maximal efficiency where you're killing multiple birds with 1 stone and you're also doing exp grinding

Rather than just simple oil:coin

[humble citrus]

Just coins, not exp or difficulty

[timid beacon]

Coins pls

[stark quiver]

do you have gears :laes:

[atomic abyss]

Well in theory it probably is the most efficient but like
Can you even clear it reliably?

[humble citrus]

16-4 is also very short with only 4 mob and 1 boss battle, so it also wins for time?

[stark quiver]

we can start reccing 16-4 for coin farm

[atomic abyss]

Yes I'm sure we'll start recommending the map most people can't even reach for coin farming

That'll truly be useful advice

[viscid swift]

everything else was standard

[stark quiver]

thanks babe

it seems renhex had a successor

[stark quiver]

what was boss fleet

[viscid swift]

Lion, Lexington 2, Independence, Guam, William, Eldridge

[stark quiver]

3m xp and <100 affinity 💀

[viscid swift]

that was before Musashi was fixed though

how on earth did you manage that

[stark quiver]

i dont even know myself lmao

[humble citrus]

I‘m doing 16-4 with only one fleet on safe. The other fleet is just crossfleet spam It‘s nice, that your sorties are exactly 5 battles long as your ammo count

[viscid swift]

oh right that's now a thing

[stark quiver]

what fleet

[humble citrus]

I‘m using this one

[stark quiver]

kurumi 😭
did it get consistent s ranks and stuff for boss as well

[humble citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531474177027473409/1474905629821763674/K9IvFEL.gif

[woven star]

How about wave clearing? Fast?

[humble citrus]

Not sure if fast. I just let it auto clear But the fleet is healthy and fast enough for S-Rank on all stages.

[zenith heron]

||Kurumi the undying for the win ||

[woven star]

Last time I tried z52, Kurumi and +1 feel like lack of aoe dmg. Incredibly survivability but lack of aoe dmg

[stark quiver]

i infact do not have kurumi raised
so thats that

[woven star]

Eldridge?

[viscid swift]

or just Laffey 2

[stark quiver]

ill try yours first cheeky for one fleet
it cant be that bad

[zenith heron]

Kurumi's strength is just being a Survivor, she has decent AA but that's it. Sadly if Laffey 2 is there, what is the choice of using Kurumi unless you love her so much

[stark quiver]

shes kurumi

[viscid swift]

I leveled her for Yorktown META

[lyric stump]

Abt 5 to 10 bar away from kill
Idk what is wrong.
Meta fight btw

[viscid swift]

didn't end up using her but

[stark quiver]

who, kurumi?

[viscid swift]

yeah

[stark quiver]

i was gonna raise her for pvp, but i didnt get her skin, and i never pvp with skinless ships

[zenith heron]

||Kurumi is shit on pvp nonetheless||

[stark quiver]

there are a lot of things that can be wrong
gearing, timing, stacks so ships die early, lack of +13s, lack of tech

[humble citrus]

Kurumi‘s clones and slow/stop field is kinda nice for the vast amount of mobs in 16-4

[signal path]

IJN Unryuu only SR🤔

[woven star]

Even wdp torp

[woven star]

Yeah. I love when slow expired and pack of stopped suicide boats ramming to main fleet

[viscid swift]

I mean yeah, next new UR ain't until May

[stark quiver]

damn, these modern campaign fleets are very tanky

[lyric stump]

how does the 5 markers work?

[stark quiver]

uhm

[humble citrus]

Sushi nullifies ramming damage

[timid beacon]

Any good way to Idk get more ap?

[stark quiver]

theres 5 different stats, make one ship have the highest amount of each stat
for you, lion gets 1 mark, lexington gets 1 mark, z52 gets one mark (preferably for eva), aurora get one mark preferably for HIT), wdp gets one mark for torp

that way one ship doesnt get nuked by 2 stacks

[viscid swift]

waiting

[zenith heron]

Is C1 farm also good for farming AP?

[stark quiver]

i got fucked, not enuff dmg agaisnt musashi

[viscid swift]

did you get it down to safe already?

[humble citrus]

But as IJN Belfast said, Laffii is probably better. I just use Kurumi, because I obviously like her, and she is pretty good here, and I didn’t want to switch gears on my PvP Laffii

[stark quiver]

i did not

[viscid swift]

might wanna do that first

[humble citrus]

Yeah, safety first

[stark quiver]

maybe thats the problem
its on 10/10 lethal 💀 i was at 29 bars left at 1:00

[viscid swift]

yeah but you need like 1k AP on hand to start

[stark quiver]

i need 1k ap to start getting dmg against musashi

[whole crypt]

what does Musashi do now

[viscid swift]

damage aparently

[timid beacon]

What if you don’t like to wait

[atomic abyss]

You spend oil on it
And 💳

[whole crypt]

did they fix the airbases

[ionic osprey]

Good day a friend of mine wants to clear chapter 13-4 what ships he can use??

Thank you for advice and help :>

[viscid swift]

tell your friend to read that
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/#chapter-13

[timid beacon]

I mean I do have 60k oil in mail

[viscid swift]

and that
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

you my as well just use the oil on campaign stages then

[timid beacon]

I think I shouldn’t spent it there tho

[ionic osprey]

Thankyouu

[south shard]

So... Need help figuring out who to use and who not to

[viscid swift]

for what exactly

[south shard]

Basically who got powercrept and such

[viscid swift]

might wanna read that
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRMH0Yyv6vWH1apqWU7t0xV9xax73CELlCIC5g7Lw-pJnKpwDM4UBcTN22oqnfRKKq-3GQ6_0FbhcB8/pub

[south shard]

Woah lion is absolutely broken huh

[frail stump]

what does fleet lock do again?

[inner delta]

it makes it so you dont have to keep showing the fleet screen when enterng next battle

[south shard]

Opinions? Forgot to type it before sending haha

[viscid swift]

what are these fleets for exactly

[south shard]

I had em named

[viscid swift]

meh, 3/10

[south shard]

fleet 1 for mob, fleet 2 for boss, fleet 3 as misc/flex, fleet 4 as sakura, fleet 5 as misc/fllex 2, fleet 6 for affinity and pr xp farming

[viscid swift]

I mean if you're not doing hard content it doesn't matter too much but

[south shard]

oh I have no plans going beyond 12-4 lol

just making sure Im up to date with the power crepts as I suddenly got curious when I saw how many URs I had

[viscid swift]

I mean if you have no plans to do hard content then keeping up with the meta is rather superfluous

[south shard]

more of for farming efficiency sake

[viscid swift]

what farming efficiency

the most efficient farming uses ships that aren't maxed out

[south shard]

better ships can make farming more faster isn't it?

[inner delta]

no, wasting exp is not efficient

[viscid swift]

not tangibly, and you'd be wasting massive amounts of XP using maxed out ships

also doesn't matter how a good a ship is if you don't limit break them

[south shard]

interesting, welp Ive been so focused with lore that I haven't been keeping tabs with gameplay lol, oh by max, you meant maxed ship refer to those that reached the 3m limit?

[viscid swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9neFkkE-Wgw&t=1s

[viscid swift]

no I mean ships that reach level 120/125

[south shard]

oh my 120 and 125 are reserved for SP or truly hard fights, Im often using my new ships like Fleet 6, accompanied by either misc. fleets as supporting barrage

[inner delta]

no he meant literally like lving up tech ship for tech like fp, rld, avi, hit, etc anything that isn't at 120 already

which for example you using z52, sandy, agir as example is a waste of exp

[south shard]

oh?

[inner delta]

they aren't gaining exp for any lv breakpoint = waste

[south shard]

hmmm, Im really struggling to get it lol

[inner delta]

if you are actually doing hard content like w15/w16 or any pushing world is fine but for "farming" wasting exp is just not efficient at all

[south shard]

hmmm, lemme try to say what I got

basically I should be using non 120 to level up ships that aren't 120 yet?

[solar sapphire]

Hello again

[inner delta]

yes

a full fleet of not 120

[south shard]

for faction tech?

[inner delta]

yes

[south shard]

Ive already unlocked all series though?

[inner delta]

there's more for individual stats

[solar sapphire]

Why is Aurora good? She doesn't seem like she is that good

[viscid swift]

you know you get stat bonuses for getting ships to level 120 right?

[south shard]

yeah

[viscid swift]

-20% evasion rate for DD and CL bosses

[inner delta]

each ship reaching 120 will give that +1 stats, there's a few important stats like rld, avi, fp, hit

so lv those up

[viscid swift]

and most content is easy enough to clear with justa bout any ships that are level 90-100

[inner delta]

like nevada is a +1 rld example

[wind hazel]

some even give +2! 🤯

[viscid swift]

like that's my current W12 farm fleet

the backline is basically doing nothing because they have 0 gear

[inner delta]

before you ask, why he use 120, because he ran out of backline to lv

[wind hazel]

wait we can get regeM already

bro i forgot to assist people since last week FUCK

[south shard]

hmmm, so all my fleet should be below 120? my first 2 fleets are reserved for hard content, how am I supposed to do SP stages then?

[solar sapphire]

Bosses? So basically those will be less likely to avoid hits?

[viscid swift]

the fleets that you farm with

and SP stages you just 1-1 that stuff

[wind hazel]

yes which translate to more damage from your side

[viscid swift]

I used Unicorn-Fu Shun, Alsace-Z52 these days

[viscid swift]

yes your main fleet can go from 70% to 90% hit rate thanks to her

[south shard]

assuming you are an old player, wouldn't your unicorn, alsace or z52 be a 120+

[solar sapphire]

I see... That makes sense, a different one... Has Fu Xun and Tai Yuan got a retrofit like her sisters?

[viscid swift]

yes

[inner delta]

yea but you are doing SP, which is once a day

[viscid swift]

yeah

[solar sapphire]

Are they both worth getting?

[south shard]

hmmmm, I only farm with new ships below 100 to begin with so Im doing fine I guess

[viscid swift]

I mean Fu Shun's retro item is still event limited

[solar sapphire]

I still use An Shan and her sister, have we even got other DDg (?

[viscid swift]

really though the DDGs haven't been used that much

[solar sapphire]

Sorry if didn't remember the correct name

[south shard]

speaking of, maybe I should buy 6 UR bulins

[forest palm]

An Shan, Chang Chun, Fu Shun, and Tai Yuan are all the DDG we have

[solar sapphire]

Oh, right, so it was event locked?

[viscid swift]

is for now

[solar sapphire]

I suppose Tai Yuan is not?

[viscid swift]

her's is in the Prototype shop

[solar sapphire]

Cool, I'll try getting her I guess, since in my fleets I do use the DDGs a lot

Probably because they were solid by the time I played and didn't have anything better

[south shard]

next month is Alsace rerun?

[viscid swift]

probably not

[south shard]

or next year's next month?

[solar sapphire]

What? She will return?

[viscid swift]

June or July would be more likely

[forest palm]

Alsace rerun is probably June

[solar sapphire]

Oh, that gives me time, cool

[south shard]

Once she reruns, Ive successfully come around and completed my UR collection as I started as Alsace event ended

[forest palm]

well late May is a new UR...

[solar sapphire]

I have a question, what about Shinano and Shimakaze reruns? How have they handled that? They will not rerun anymore?

[south shard]

they are permanently in pool

[solar sapphire]

Permanent?

[south shard]

you can claim them in pity

or if you get lucky get them in special pool

[wind hazel]

@sweet delta what causes the 1/20 failure kearsarge comp? just not enough dmg by 4th strike? or some CV reveal entire time run or something

[viscid swift]

Which you shouldn't

[south shard]

I think heavy too? except light

[solar sapphire]

Where do you mean?

What pity?

[viscid swift]

Pity for the permanent URs

[solar sapphire]

Oh, I might try something there in the future

[brisk cedar]

Looking for a way to improve my sub fleet , would I-404 plus some American subs work together ?

[wind hazel]

light build count towards the exchange, you don't need to specifically build heavy or special

[solar sapphire]

By the way, Sandy is still used mainly for her AA capabilities?

[solar sapphire]

Light works?

[wind hazel]

yes, 1 cube=1 point

[solar sapphire]

So I can get an UR with 200 cubes?

[wind hazel]

400

[solar sapphire]

Oh

[wind hazel]

non UR banner will also contribute so you don't need to worry much if you pull during events

[solar sapphire]

And is there any UR in light?

[viscid swift]

Eh no, really just check the end game tier list I linked in the thread

[solar sapphire]

I see... So that's the catch

In heavy especial they are, you can technically get them but it cost the double, in light it cost half but you are guaranteed not getting anything on the way

By the way

What are the permanent available UR by now?

[wind hazel]

click the UR Exchange and view it yourself

[solar sapphire]

Oh, you can do it?

[solar sapphire]

Wait a minute

Sorry, sorry

So next is Unzen then Guam?

Last one I saw was Implacable so it should be

Well, at least I got them all aside from Shinano and Shimakaze

I just have to get Guam whenever she returns

[viscid swift]

Guam already reran a few months ago

[solar sapphire]

So after her next rerun she will enter there?

[viscid swift]

What

[solar sapphire]

Into that pool of UR characters

[wind hazel]

theres only 1 rerun and it happened

[viscid swift]

Ships rerun once and then they go into the perma pool after a few months

[solar sapphire]

Oh? Then why doesn't she is, so the last rerun and the time they become permanent available is not the same?

[viscid swift]

Correct

[wind hazel]

next is zwei, then unzen

[solar sapphire]

I see, what a pity

[viscid swift]

There's delay of 9 months to a year

[solar sapphire]

So basically, I have to get Shimakaze, Shinano and then Guam

From that system, yes?

[viscid swift]

Something like that

Though it would probably be better spend on dupes for limit breaking rather than Shima

[solar sapphire]

Well, no wonder I found it odd

By the time I left even Shinano hadn't been added permanently

Just asking... Was Soyuz a rerun as well?

oof

[noble pawn]

I-404 with Flasher+Archerfish/Albacore

[solar sapphire]

Wait... An UR sub?

What's next? A royal navy sub?

[viscid swift]

Just check the archives and see what we have

A lots been added in 3 years

[solar sapphire]

I see, is the archive accessible in game? Or you mean something here?

[late flame]

[solar sapphire]

[noble pawn]

I hope for Alsace rerun

[wind hazel]

you dont need to hope

you just need to wait

[whole crypt]

should be in Jun/Jul

[late flame]

-# more copies for skin showcase

[rapid grail]

does w16 have farming mode now

[noble pawn]

Then I will patiently wait

[viscid swift]

Smh not having 2 Mogador dupes for both her skins

[rapid grail]

aight neat

i wonder if 16-1 has good rates for cogs over 15-1

[wind hazel]

@ dataminer

[viscid swift]

Maybe?

[wind hazel]

but kinda cringe you need to bring a lot of maxed ships there

[soft raft]

Also before I go update the rerun list, what format is the upcoming IJN event? SP?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[wind hazel]

even 15-1 is already tough, i dont wanna think about 16-1. staying at 14-1

[soft raft]

Ight

[viscid swift]

Maybe I should too with my almost 100 ship backlog

[wind hazel]

faer convinced me to run from 12-1 to 14-1

[viscid swift]

But i also still have tech to grind hmm

Also down to real garbage now

[soft raft]

And there's no event name for the event yet right

[viscid swift]

Nope

[soft raft]

Guess this works for the time being then

[dense arch]

hi chat, my dorm food supply is kinda running out, should I use my oil to exchange for curry?

I was prioritizing morale recovering than leveling tho

[viscid swift]

Your ships still recover morale without dorm food

[whole crypt]

what is there to mine for

[wind hazel]

how many cogs chip you get from ch 16?

[whole crypt]

isn't that drop handled server side

[wind hazel]

idk

ping me again when you have the answer

[stark quiver]

@wind hazel

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933801860366348/1393808774376062976/14fea1a90c6b4622b1db1e7c01c0b6c6.gif

[rain bobcat]

ijn event mid year monkaS

[wind hazel]

first time in history right? to not be on anniversary

[whole crypt]

fairly sure chip drop is server side and what we have is based on testing

[rain bobcat]

well major maybe

we had zuiho like 2-3yrs ago

[wind hazel]

oh yea zuihou

nvm not first time in history

[solar sapphire]

Wait

[rain bobcat]

and the older ones ig

[solar sapphire]

Math is not mathing

[whole crypt]

this is an SP event so it's not really major more like medium

maybe something closer to VT

[solar sapphire]

How can there be so many UR? I see a couple of retrofits, but have they started to launch 2 UR at the same time?

[wind hazel]

since alsace yes

[whole crypt]

for like 3 years now yes

[rain bobcat]

long ass time ago thats been a thing

[strong tartan]

since guam and laffey ii

[ivory pawn]

Not every time, but like twice a year.

[wind hazel]

oh lol true

[viscid swift]

Last year we had 3 double UR events

[maiden mirage]

Am I losing anything from being in a guild by myself? Been playing for around 7 years and got it to level 10

[wind hazel]

mogador was 2nd?

[solar sapphire]

Huh?

You have to pull two UR?

[viscid swift]

No

[whole crypt]

one pull one shop

[strong tartan]

no 1 in gacha and 1 in shop

[wind hazel]

yes you're doing extreme hard mode, i doubt you can defeat guild boss by yourself

[viscid swift]

They were shop like Laffey 2

[rain bobcat]

laffii mogador z52 traf i404 wdp

[maiden mirage]

takes like 3-4 days for the last one

[wind hazel]

wtf you can

[rain bobcat]

4 days def not lol

[wind hazel]

can you complete 2 operation in a month by yourself?

[maiden mirage]

its one attempt a day and goes down like 33 percent

[wind hazel]

... is it hard?

[rain bobcat]

prob depends on number of ppl

[maiden mirage]

the operation takes like a week or something

[wind hazel]

we're talking about compiler right?

[rain bobcat]

ur not denting shit if many ppl join and ur the only one hitting

[whole crypt]

if I remember correctly guild boss HP is scaled by number of members or some shit

[crisp wraith]

Huh

[solar sapphire]

That's... Idk, I would say generous? Or not, probably since UR bulins are so rare that might even be bad?

[viscid swift]

You get 2.5 ur bullins a month

[whole crypt]

we still get more bulins than is needed to LB new UR ships each year

[viscid swift]

Plus one for every UR event

[ivory pawn]

Plus another not bulin but kinda if you go for the shop ship dupe.

[maiden mirage]

How long does it usually take for a guild to fully complete a operation?

[whole crypt]

my guild usually takes 4-5 days

[viscid swift]

Mine takes what 9 days for Solomon

[whole crypt]

only for the boss

[ivory pawn]

Mine'll finish the second op in a few days, so like 11-12 days ish.

[whole crypt]

the whole op takes like 2 weeks

[stark quiver]

you contribute to boss everyday?

[viscid swift]

Yeah

[maiden mirage]

Ig imma continue soloing it then

[wind hazel]

if you can finish 2 operation within a month then go ahead continue

[whole crypt]

this is what my guild boss rankings usually looks like so yeh around 4 days

[stark quiver]

oh, i do not

[solar sapphire]

Alright, alright

I guess I better find out myself by playing

[maiden mirage]

I think around 900 points from me is enough to kill the boss

[viscid swift]

So 3 rotations

[wind hazel]

that's crazy

this guy is solo leveling

[whole crypt]

I think boss is scaled roughly to 3-5 days for a fair bit of your guild doing 301s

[sweet delta]

CV never reveals, and I don't think anyone died, so probably just a low crit rate RNG

[stark quiver]

suchi can you 5 ship one shot

[timid beacon]

Heey so I accidentally started developing Neptune.. any way to cancel it 😭

[atomic abyss]

Click on someone else?

After 24h

[knotty jolt]

Wait 24 hours

[timid beacon]

Yea

[atomic abyss]

After 24h you can switch

[timid beacon]

Alright I’ll wait then thanks guys

[whole crypt]

you could just do what you can with neptune in the meanwhile, also what ship do you want to work on instead

I have a feeling you need to change your research focus if you haven't already, there shouldn't be any reason that you have a bunch of random PR1 prints

[rapid grail]

does anyone remember the 16-1 sub loadouts for the starting Atago? iirc it had rainbow torps on pretty much everyone

nvm wtf was that 16-4 oil costs

[whole crypt]

best is pretty much 404fish with G7eK and T95K

[stark quiver]

Flame and ace on 2 different cats

[whole crypt]

average cat turnout

[timid beacon]

I alr have I’m focusing on Plymouth to and her gun

[whole crypt]

I would recommend focusing on 7 or 8, Plymouth can be worked on with coins so you don't need to do PR5 at all, rest of the series isn't too spectacular

[timid beacon]

Coins?

Idk where ppl are buying these prints

[whole crypt]

ships up to DR5 and PR6 can be enhanced using coins instead of actual prints

you don't buy the prints, once all prints are spent the menu changes to charge you coins instead

and there's free/discounted prints you can "buy" every day through this

[timid beacon]

So I can get kearsarge instead

[whole crypt]

but anyway I assume then you are looking to work on Plymouth next for unlocking? do you actually have enough faction tech?

[timid beacon]

No….

[whole crypt]

because if not then you could just unlock Neptune who'll give you HMS tech

[timid beacon]

Havnt looked too into that much

[whole crypt]

and also a ship you can use to spend free prints/coins to enhance for now, and later to use to grind XP for Plymouth

like you don't have to stay with Neptune, but you might want to check if the next ship you want to work on can actually be accessed first

[timid beacon]

Ohhh I see what you mean sort of

[timid beacon]

I didn’t fully get what you meant by this, you don’t buy the prints, but all prints are spent on the menu?

[whole crypt]

so when you enhance the ship you can spend prints on them, once you run out of prints on the exact same spot the menu will ask you for coins instead and you can continue to enhance directly by spending coins

[timid beacon]

oh so this?

I though this was for ALL

Pr seasons*

[whole crypt]

only older seasons, and DRs get it slower than PR ships

which is why you should generally focus research on the newest ones first

[timid beacon]

(Also I don’t remember why I have her regardless it was a waste of money)

[timid beacon]

Alright then I will, ima look over some of the stuff you said earlier

[whole crypt]

you probably bought the voucher, I don't think you'd have the tech for her

[timid beacon]

Yeah I remember buying her but I think it was an impulse buy because I thought her "ghost gun" was op 😭

Damn so I’ve been working on the wrong thing I should’ve been getting tech points instead of getting these blue prints

[whole crypt]

research is pretty much a gradual process, and also the later you get into the game the more resources you will have to spare for it

just take your time here on

[timid beacon]

Yeah I’m still not so sure about letting go of cubes and some purple materials, unless I see the 30 minute gold research project or whatever it is I’m sure you know what I’m talking about

[whole crypt]

don't worry too much about cube researches, and prioritize plates for your gear first if you're still short especially purple ones

[timid beacon]

Yes I’m very broke and just got my first rainbow gun and right now I just got the flap jack plane and I’m deciding what to work on currently, ima go watch a guide on tech points and so on

Thanks nnt ill switch up my research right now

[whole crypt]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

[desert tapir]

Tossing level 99 Moskva into 12-1 (safe) for grinding. With Uni on overwatch she doesn't need to be fully kitted out right? This will be fine?

[whole crypt]

she can probably even tank it at this point, kursk on the other hand though needs to be mid

[onyx flame]

you dont even need uni for that lineup for 12-1

[timid beacon]

Also why did you recommend 7-8 ? Is it because of the weapons?

[desert tapir]

Was being too lazy to change fleet twos flag after removing Cassin from vanguard okay. Was why I asked if I could use less then optimal gear.
... supoose I could move Litto to flag but not sure who else to grind.

[whole crypt]

see stig's research focus page

[timid beacon]

Thanks, so for gear mostly and I work on fleet points in the mean time, alright it’s a whole lot clearer for me now thanks man

[safe nexus]

now that META boss is lvl 15, what ship should i use?

my ships

[whole crypt]

this showdown has an awkward stat check mechanic so it's not so straightforward who you should or shouldn't use, besides summoners

[desert tapir]

....is this everyone 120(+) or everyone everyone?

[safe nexus]

yes i dont have anyone better

[tender vortex]

Hey who would yall recommend content creator wise

[whole crypt]

suchi, jimmy

literally no one else

[desert tapir]

....for fun or learning?

[tender vortex]

Mostly just like gameplay and gear loadouts, I’m tryna be efficient but I’m so overwhelmed with all the differing info

[whole crypt]

because yt is full of outdated shit and hottakes

[tender vortex]

I wish they kept updating the slainmedia dude it was so simple 💔

[whole crypt]

ectl is also shit

and that's before they stopped updating

[timid beacon]

Nah fr I don’t watch them because they are 4-5 years old and like naaah I’m looking for newer content

Instead I got cheeky telling me to read

[tender vortex]

Bro I don’t even care about the purist gear builds I just want something that isnt a aneurysm to follow

[timid beacon]

I don’t read what he sends me but he won’t read this message

[rotund narwhal]

what are the best cruisers for pvp right now

[whole crypt]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[whole crypt]

#pvp guide is pinned

[desert tapir]

Honestly it changes so fast and even "current content" is super situational most of the time. Id day take it at your own pace and mostly just talk to the discord. Yes its a lot, but this community is (generally) pretty nice and patient.

Heck they've put up with my mushy casual useless gay brain for ....wait its been three years?

[whole crypt]

it doesn't change fast at all, a good gear build 2 years ago is still a good gear build today even if it's no longer the best

the problem is just gearing and ship options are very content-centric

[tender vortex]

Well I appreciate you guys and thank you for the the resource nnk

[whole crypt]

so a good build now wouldn't have worked 2 years ago even if you had it if it was for the wrong content

[desert tapir]

To be fair this is also true. The game very much runs on a power scale that was left behind years ago

[whole crypt]

there's really not a whole lot to remember, once you get around to it the incremental changes aren't that much

[safe nexus]

triple CV for META bossa or BB 2 CV?

[whole crypt]

the biggest problem you'll have is getting your vanguard to survive if you don't do something about the stat checks

[desert tapir]

Manual or auto?

[whole crypt]

as it stands both top triple BB and USS anti-light can oneshot but you can build neither of those

[desert tapir]

. ... wait I have not done this meta yet what's the status check?

[whole crypt]

CV is also going to be worse if you don't have a bunch of HVARs

[whole crypt]

Regensburg META marks your top ships for FP, AVI, TRP, EVA and ACC
if a ship is top for more than 1 stat she can get more than 1 mark
the first mark makes your ship take 110% damage, every additional mark is another 220%

so if you have a single higher level vanguard that just tops the stat table she's going to evaporate the moment Regensburg hits her

[desert tapir]

[safe nexus]

i got helena for HIT and WDP for EVA/TRP, do i get 1 BB for FP?

[signal path]

With All this Gear, What should I buy in Prototype? Im confused and lost I dont know what I need 😭

[whole crypt]

WdP is going to die find a vanguard to top her EVA or TRP

the mainfleet is secondary if your vanguard doesn't make it

[whole crypt]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/

[scarlet fiber]

Where can i get fujinami?

[onyx flame]

16-4 drop aint it

[scarlet fiber]

Aight thnx

[safe nexus]

got laffey to cover high EVA, do i use a single BB then?

[whole crypt]

do you have an avi aux that fits on ships other than carriers
if not do 2BB+1CV

[desert tapir]

Right... cool... good to know. As for @safe nexus I think (take with caution. Filthy casual and all) but I think you can do two BB to cover FP and Acc. I'm not sure about the stats for your 4 bb off the top of my head. If you keep your vanguard alive you can probably take advantage of the manual damage boost to both BB aim for a lot of damage. But with the dock shown I don't think you can single clear.

[whole crypt]

if you do then see if you can fit it on a vanguard and move top ACC to main fleet

[safe nexus]

no idea what you mean by avi aux

[whole crypt]

an aux gear that has avi stat on it

but it can't be catapult because that only fits on carriers

the "ideal" way to gear triple BB involves making the BBs take top acc and using Aurora to fit albion report for AVI

[safe nexus]

i guess i dont have since i dont see one

[desert tapir]

Would a bbv do? Not that Yay has one, but im curious

[whole crypt]

if you don't know or can't do any of that then just go 2BB 1CV

a BBV would fit the avi top but BBVs are also just shit unless it's Kearsarge

[safe nexus]

so do i replace helena?, she have 240 while my bb cant even reach 200

[whole crypt]

just go 2BB + 1CV

[desert tapir]

The 2nd is not terrible IIR.

[whole crypt]

for most part you're going to have to count on assists, I suspect most less-than-motivated players will

[desert tapir]

To be fair this one is very, very, mean. This knocks most of my URs right out, and if the stacks are able to be moved after the first ship girl falls

[onyx flame]

if a shipgirl carrying a stack dies, it goes back to regeM and she gains 20% dr per stack so you rather anyone not die in the first place

also does the RegenM sit close enough for oumi to rake her with secondaries?

[whole crypt]

the real problem is just the stat management

[safe nexus]

my laffey 2 died so quickly

[signal path]

Do we only get Faction tech Points once we MLB ships of the said faction?

[onyx flame]

obtain, mlb, lvl 120
thou typically only consider up to mlb

[whole crypt]

Laffey II is bad for this showdown

[tender vortex]

I’m torn between using the moskava gun or the Agir gun on agir, is the +12% efficiency on the agir gun worth more than the raw stats of mosk gun

[atomic abyss]

CBs want CB guns

[tender vortex]

Okii tyy

[safe nexus]

what if i go with a full healer team for main side? for META boss

[atomic abyss]

Won't work

Your damage will shit itself

And you probably won't be able to out heal the damage anyways

[desert tapir]

On top of that I think Uni, Klaudia, and Percy have diffrent healing conditions so you could never sync close enough to matter

[whole crypt]

realistically it's really just 2BB+1CV and 3 vanguards splitting stats
if the vanguards are still taking too much damage even with only 1 mark then use a healer for the CV
you're really not going to get very far with damage on this one

[hollow gust]

You can pull hit into the backline

[whole crypt]

have you scrolled up to see his ship options

[hollow gust]

[livid wyvern]

for rainbow 406 gun vs purple 406 gun, is it worth using rainbow if both is +10

[whole crypt]

Mk7 (or perhaps Lion gun) are both better than Mk6
we just don't recommend crafting Mk7 very much because the cost efficiency is low for what it offers over Mk6, without bringing it to over +11

[livid wyvern]

Ah i see thank you!

[noble pawn]

Try bringing Kazagumo maybe?

[safe nexus]

Ye I did she somehow didn't get even a single stack, gave up slap my best ship and I just brute force 400+k

Couldn't even get 300k with the suggested team

[twin bronze]

Does Houston2 drop on all bosses or just in third boss?

[strong tartan]

Just the third

[exotic sorrel]

Is cowpens a better healer than unicorn retrofit by value in campaign chapter 12 and above?

[muted wind]

if your vanguards have low max hp, usually yes. otherwise, unicorn's preload may outperform that

[onyx flame]

i mean even then, uni is still better cause she heals more ships in general

[muted wind]

yeah, 8% of cowpen's max hp to 1 vanguard and 1 main fleet vs 8% of each vanguard's max hp and once per battle 5% of each main fleet's max hp. i'd say you ultimately need to try out which works better for your fleet

[zenith heron]

Sadly you can't compare One ship who can heal all ships at once per airstrike vs a ship who target heals a the lowest hp ship per airstrike. Its all about situations.

Both can be used on Mob but different usability.

Edit: Lowest HP not Random

[muted wind]

i wouldn't say "lowest hp ship in main fleet and vanguard" is random, in fact it's very reliable, but yes

[zenith heron]

||Oh wait forgor to remove random ||

[muted wind]

ultimately, depends on how much max hp your vanguard ships have, how the damage is spread between them, and honestly also how much main fleet healing you need. you can also totally just use both, cowpens brings enough damage to the table

[zenith heron]

The only time I can think of when you use cowpens a lot more than Unicorn if you have another healer other than Unicorn (Zuihou, Aquila, Volga), but still it falls down to situations to which your fleet needs to get either full fleet heal or single target heal, or both...

Literally transitional...

[noble pawn]

She got most torp stat among your vanguard

[wraith pendant]

depends, I use Cow over Uni in OpSi just because Cow has more damage, and she heals just what I need, where Uni overheals and does overall less damage

[gusty crater]

hi all any units recommended for chapter 16?

[north gorge]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-16-fleets

[gusty crater]

big thanks!!

[safe nexus]

Yeah but somehow no stack which is why I got confused and then she still died first

[north gorge]

Did she still have highest after skills taken into account?

[hard dock]

Does PR coining reset happen same time as daily reset?

[north gorge]

4 hours after

[exotic sorrel]

So let me get this straight... Unicorn = pure healing and Cowpen = more dmg and so it'll just be up to my team composition okay

Therefore the superior choice is... Perseus! /Hj

[hasty phoenix]

Is it worth grinding HVAR?

[undone plover]

Depends if u find it worth
U will need sth like 170 runs to get 25 prints for 1
And it could be added to another shop in the future

[flint arrow]

can i put coins into storage?

or is it only for withdrawing

[north gorge]

afaik only stuff in mail can go to storage

[flint arrow]

do you ever enhance ships with blues or purples

or only greys

[inner delta]

only grey

blue and purple scap to medal

[flint arrow]

thats unfortunate i have so much gold now and i will definitely run out on some event :X guess i will enhance rnadom equipments

also, is the guild currency overly abundant or have i been not utilizing it properly? i have like 50k. usually i only bought gold and purple plates, sometimes books or chips

[onyx flame]

its pretty abudunt if you dont spend on a lot of things

[undone plover]

Do u use the refresh?

[flint arrow]

yeah

[undone plover]

Buy books as well imo
And the odd cog chips

Early on a lot might be used on guild tech as well
But it can slowly accumulate over time

[flint arrow]

i have so many books i will never use them all but i grab them yeah

[exotic sorrel]

How many are we talking

[flint arrow]

chips i definitely should have been buying, i always felt these dont end as i havent been raising that many ships previously, but now im out of them and regretting 🤣

[exotic sorrel]

I have too much defensive books and no support books at all I have a weird obsession with support type skills

[tulip zenith]

Do u no longer get mail while on hiatus?

[viscid swift]

did you ever

[tulip zenith]

Ya I used to come back to hella stuff in my mail

[mint sedge]

Hey! I want to make a fleet against heavy armor, so I don't have to keep changing gear. I'm just starting to level them up, but the idea is: Vanguard: Moskva, Regensburg meta, Ozornoy (to synergize with Moskva, but I'm open to suggestions, as long as they look heavy). On the main: Nyakhimov, Sovetsky, and I don't know what other carrier to use? Would Yorktown meta work? Although it doesn't look very heavy. Yoshino? I like how it looks in chibi.

[viscid swift]

well that won't last

[mint sedge]

painlevé locks heavy to....

[viscid swift]

are Soyuz and Nahkimov even max limit broken

[mint sedge]

nyakhimov only needs 25 more blueprints when I finish my dev missions 7; she'll be complete in 2 days. Sovetsky is at 5 stars; I have an extra copy and 1 Bullie. I was debating between giving the Bullie to Hakuhou next month and maxing her out, or giving it to Sovetsky.

[viscid swift]

begs the question of if you have the likes of Amagi CV, Shinano, and Hakuhou then

or heck, even some good BBs

[viscid swift]

anyway, this might be useful for you
https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

[mint sedge]

I have them, Hakuhou needs a Sakura BB in the main fleet if I'm not mistaken, and it's in my ADS fleet. Shinano doesn't look heavy, Moskva, Resen, Nyakhi, and Sovetsky look like heavy, ostentatious weapons. Maybe I'll take Musashi out of my ADS fleet and put it in this one.

[viscid swift]

what

you know looks has nothing to do with what armor type they're good against right

and no Hakuhou does not need to be sortied with an IJN BB but she does want to be sortied with other IJN main fleets

[wheat ore]

How does the game know which fleet to use in opsi?

[mint sedge]

I usually choose based on how they look. I've noticed that non-meta ships are functional with good gear, so I choose fan service over the meta and it's worked for me; I've already started 15-1.

[viscid swift]

the one you're on currently

[viscid swift]

functional up to a point yes

anyway, if you're doing easy content it really doesn't matter what you use

[wheat ore]

So what is the point of forming 4 fleets when it just autos with 1

[wind hazel]

because your fleet 1 might fail

[sonic nova]

Need a good fleet for CH13, any suggestions on who to build and what to build around with

[viscid swift]

Abyssals, Hard Arbiter, etc only allow you one rotation with each of your fleets to kill them

[mint sedge]

I think I'm doing pretty well considering I started in October, so any ships that seem a bit heavy?

[viscid swift]

I mean I look at ships solely based on how they perform

I make no judgement or reccomendation based on how a ship looks

[wheat ore]

Oh I see, I never got there. Would you say If I can clear 14-1 then I can do abyssals and stuff?

[mint sedge]

A healer, When I couldn't clean it, I used Unicorn and the problem was solved.

[viscid swift]

might wanna read that
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/#chapter-13

[viscid swift]

not necessarily

[mint sedge]

But you know them, right? Can you suggest one that looks powerful and has some synergy? Like, a buff for using a certain ability or a damage increase against heavy armor, and that looks good.

[sonic nova]

any suggestions on who to pair for my carriers? It's mainly EU-based so I have options like enty, essex retro, yorktown II & lex II

[viscid swift]

not really because appearance is subjective, what "looks" powerful to me might not look powerful to you

[viscid swift]

good ships mainly

outside of that I can't really say without knowing what you have

[mint sedge]

True, or rather, as big as Musashi's arms or that black thing Nyakhimov carries on his back

[viscid swift]

what

[viscid swift]

this might help though
https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com/

[mint sedge]

I have Implacable and it looks heavy, according to your link it's good... does it synergize with the fleet I have in mind?

[sonic nova]

I'll consider using unicorn, though here's what I havr atm, mainy a hodge podge my most built ships

[viscid swift]

not really considering her root is redundant when you have Nahkimov and Soyuz and her damage is poor

[sonic nova]

carriers

[viscid swift]

oh easily dead

so many ships under leveled and not max limit broken, I don't even want to know what the gear looks like

[sonic nova]

yeah everything just melts to planehell

[viscid swift]

you might want to read the progression guide I sent

[sonic nova]

guh

[viscid swift]

and the all the section before it to, you need a refresher on the basics

and use this to sort out your gear
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[mint sedge]

oooh i see... And Hakuryuu? I can develop it in 2 days hahaha it also looks big, from your link the most badass and biggest is Fritz Rumey but I don't have it 🙁

[sonic nova]

For a start though, what ship combos are good to start build ing on

[viscid swift]

first and foremost you should be using good ships

worry about if there's any synergy later

[viscid swift]

and you have plenty of good ships to work on,

Aquila, Unicorn, Independence just from this

also

[viscid swift]

I mean sure

[mint sedge]

It would be an option while I wait for the Fritz Rumey rerun. Well, the link helped me see the chibi versions and choose, thanks.

[viscid swift]

you'll be waiting for a year still

[mint sedge]

I don't think they'll shut down the servers, and I'm not in a hurry; it's just tedious to change loadouts.

[mint sedge]

When did you start playing? Because I can't buy that Enterprise skin, and that's the only one I'm missing.

[viscid swift]

eh, unless you're consistently doing hard content you'd just keep your fleets for those set up and use them to kill Abyssals and such

and your farming fleet takes care of all the easy stuff

[sonic nova]

it was on sale last year ago

[mint sedge]

Well, I'm at 12-2 on hard, the 3 attempts per day make it very difficult to progress

[viscid swift]

progress through what? hard mode?

not much incentive to progress past W12 for hard mode at least

[mint sedge]

So what hard mode are you talking about? The SP and hard events? I clear them, the EX events? Meta Showdown? I clear it, Oops Siren, I cleared them. I almost always reach Royal in Exercise, but I don't play much, so it's a genuine question. Exactly which "hard" events are you talking about? I've already cleared 15-1, so I don't think I'm that lost.

[viscid swift]

Exercise, my META one shot fleet, and though I don't really keep it geared up a boss fleet to take down arbiter and Abyssals each month

everything else outside of late campaign stages past W13 I would consider all easy content

and that gets delegated to the farming fleet which just contains ships I need to get levels on

oh and I guess my W14 hard mode boss fleet as well

[flint arrow]

how does training meta skills work, i thought i could train only 1 ship at a time but apparently not?

[rain vine]

you set the skill you want to level for each ship, then complete the tasks listed for exp

[mint sedge]

But my EU fleet against bosses cleared in one attempt at Resenburg and last month at Yorktown. I've already cleared Ops Siren; I just do the daily missions, unless a super difficult boss appears before the end of the month, which didn't happen last month... As for Exercise, I don't play much because I don't see very good rewards. One-shotting is fine, but I prefer to look at ships I like for a minute than one-shot everything in 20 seconds. I know I might sound insistent, but since I've been playing for 6 months and haven't seen any more events besides what I've unlocked, I still don't understand the "hard" part you're talking about.

[hard dock]

Is Monarch's aug good

[hidden pasture]

should i retrofit saratoga?

or wait for better carrier

[eternal basalt]

You can, or wait how the new CV next week is

[woven star]

Guess wait

[hidden pasture]

we have a new CV next week?

SR or elite?

[ivory pawn]

Yes: #game-news message

[eternal basalt]

SR

[hidden pasture]

is there any SR retrofitable?

[ivory pawn]

Several, though they all need a special unique item in order to finish the retrofit.

Some can be bought with spec cores in the shop, such as San Diego's.

[woven star]

Noticeable SanD, Essex, Eldridge
Some other less... Warspite, Yuudachi

[flint arrow]

fuuuuck i never even thought it would let me train more than 1 at once. about to be training 40 meta ships at once

[hidden pasture]

there's alot of good SR but i seems to have none xD what a chance

[flint arrow]

just started tactical training on every meta i own which is all except like 3

[viscid swift]

Maybe I misspoke, what I mean by hard content is content which actively forces you to change your gear set up

I find it odd that you complain about switching out gear when you should be at a point where that can be kept to a minimum

[hidden pasture]

no event so keep 1 pull daily in light banner yeah?

[pastel notch]

is there any guide for the new tb yet

[flint arrow]

Are these bad? Someone once told me they are the go to CL gun but they're nowhere in the gear guide. I think i was misinformed...

[eternal basalt]

No, but #1204845559790440488

[hidden pasture]

what is opsi

[wary hawk]

Operation Siren

[hidden pasture]

what does that do, i just unlock it

[wary hawk]

Its your primary source of plates and gear

[hidden pasture]

is there a guide how to do it correctly?

[ivory pawn]

Cheeky's got a longer one somewhere, but tldr is finish the story mode to unlock the monthly reset, then do daily missions and clear everything once, especially the numerous popups.

[hidden pasture]

are you answering my question? Sorry in advance cuz i dont understand 😔

[wary hawk]

Go bash your head against it, youll understand before long

[hidden pasture]

so i have to finish the story mode first?

[wary hawk]

Inside of opsi, yes

[mint sedge]

Oh, I see! My EU fleet with Entychan is the one that takes down bosses, and I switch their equipment depending onit's heavy or medium/light armor. I'd like a fleet I can switch to when it's heavy, without having to change the loadout for each ship. So I have an EU fleet I'd like for medium/light, an ADS fleet with a healer, a medium-sized ADS fleet I never use (haha), and I want one that looks heavy for heavy armor bosses. It'll help me start using more ships. Thanks for the clarification; I thought I was missing more events and things to do.

[hidden pasture]

oh i see

[wheat ore]

does anyone even like the opsi puzzles, they seem to be really annoying and doesn't add much

[wary hawk]

I wish I remembered them

[ivory pawn]

You only have to do them once thankfully. I liked them as a one-time thing.

[mint sedge]

That's right! I didn't get any puzzles last month or this month.

[wheat ore]

wait really? like not every month?

[wary hawk]

One time ever

Plus you can just make tb solve them for you if you hate them that much

[hidden pasture]

whats tb

[wheat ore]

oh that's nice then

[mint sedge]

So once you complete Ops Siren, no more puzzles appear in subsequent months?

[ivory pawn]

No new puzzles show up after completing opsi story yup.

[mint sedge]

I always missclicked so that TB would work

[mint sedge]

nice! i hate that part

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub

[hasty phoenix]

What's the better gun for a BB at W14?

[ivory pawn]

For w14 specifically you want 155 kai, but the twin 130 or whatever it was on the left is good too, and best option for DD only BBs iirc.

[flint arrow]

https://azur-lane-regal.suchiguma.com is this the best tier list?

[hasty phoenix]

Alr thanks, I've been seeing these two a lot lol

[hidden pasture]

Tks 😍

[ivory pawn]

It's the only up to date English one worth looking at afaik.

[flint arrow]

i see, thanks. im just bit confused, its not me disagreeing with it cuz i legit dont know shit about what is good and why, but a lot of positions on it seem to go against stuff ive heard before... for example Cheshire, I think people always said she's good but apparently D tier... same with Allen M Sumner

[viscid swift]

Powercreep among other things

[quaint tapir]

cheshire was pretty good... when she released lol. that was also when w13 was top, and w13 only cares about AA really

[viscid swift]

As well as campaign getting more difficult

Like, NJ when she first released would be where Lion is now

And now she's considered a bottom of the barrel UR some 5 years later

[thick pond]

How Moskva works?

[robust onyx]

Very well with Nakimov

[dim tundra]

as long as I log into my yostar account and this shows up, my account is safe right?
(btw this isn't my own screenshot)

[undone plover]

From what i understood this is fine for now but they are changing it in may or sth
I would actually love to know what I should do as well

[timid beacon]

[stable badger]

is the new rainbow Sub Torp. worth crafting? in gear lab, ironblod

[viscid swift]

not really because end game sub content not found

[stable badger]

ah. collection it is~

[desert tapir]

I don't need to remove my Type 1 AP shell while battling the current META do I?

[viscid swift]

why would you need to?

[desert tapir]

I'm trying to eek out every bit of damage. I'm pretty sure I don't half to worry about these, but I also figured I should double check.

[viscid swift]

I mean depends on the ship and other aux gear but

unless you can't eek out a 4th shot without replacing it with an auto loader

[desert tapir]

I think I can get that in.

[flint arrow]

this current skin "event", i can use the 300 gem discount on any skin under category "party dress" or only the ones with the little "event" mark?

[subtle grotto]

Which character do I UR exchange i already have NJ and ulrich

[wheat ore]

is there a channel that has links to the google docs and stuff, i can't find the opsi guide. mainly trying to see what to buy from the shop

[woven star]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRPJgxnXwC4r3Z8AlbzPUhHDXt0Dr7KP4TPriFnGafQrt1wE7Jb5AdRgfy8tXaLpTC-CtYAVMZgJE0g/pub try here

[vestal prawn]

So how to make sure my account is safe ??

[wheat ore]

do you just have this doc saved?

[woven star]

? Have a link

[hard dock]

What level range should I farm exp in 12-4 is it best upto 120?

[ivory pawn]

All the way to 120, or even 125 if you intend to go that high.

[wheat ore]

yeah ik but i'm just asking if this link is someone on the server or do you just hav ei t

[ivory pawn]

I don't believe it has a command yet, it's just something that's been shared around.

[woven star]

Ask @viscid swift

[viscid swift]

It's not saved anywhere on the server no

[wheat ore]

don't seem to see a guide for what to spend the tokens on

[viscid swift]

are you sure about that

[wheat ore]

lol i did not see that

[white agate]

what comp used 4 la-9?

[viscid swift]

Fritz, Nahkimov

[wheat ore]

i don't seem to see the UR design plans gold plates and all that?

[cobalt robin]

check st petersburg

[white agate]

guess i can't get away with 3?

[viscid swift]

is it your first month?

[viscid swift]

I mean you can for now because Regensburg is light armor

[wheat ore]

as in first ever time playing opsi? no, but i didn't fully get into it before, i haven't completed chapter 5 i think

[cobalt robin]

thats not the first month shop tho

[wheat ore]

ah yes i see it now, but it says unavalible

[cobalt robin]

you need to clear more zones then

around the st petersburg port

[wheat ore]

okay ty

[viscid swift]

not specifcially around the port

just more explorable nodes as a whole

need to clear 50 to unlock everything in the shops

[cobalt robin]

[knotty dome]

i'm doing 9-3 and notice this, what is it? i don't remember it from when i first did w9

it takes the place of the BB firing button sometimes

[viscid swift]

Gouden's airstrike

[knotty dome]

does it block BB?

[viscid swift]

it can block BBs yes

[knotty dome]

so she's best with CVs then

[viscid swift]

ig, she's mainly a campaign ship though

[knotty dome]

ok, thanks

[coral elk]

Can OpSi still be completed with not the best fleets if I put proper gear on them and not using very weak ships?

I really just want to use as much ships that I actually like as possible

[hollow gust]

You don't even need URs

[onyx flame]

doable for just about everything cept maybe harbi and abyssal c5/6 depending on how possibly bad your fav ships are

[timid beacon]

Yes you gotta be prepared for abyssal I lost 2 of them because my adaptive stuff was not high enough

[hollow gust]

You don't need URs for killing hard arbiter either

[coral elk]

My Eastern European heart loves the Soviet shipgirls and I just finished D30 Nakhimov

Though it's been a while since I played, so is the optimal team setup Mob/BB1/BB2/CV? Or one of BB teams could be swapped for a second CV fleet?

[atomic abyss]

BB + 2 CV

[coral elk]

So far backline seems to look like

Mob
Sov Belorussiya, Kazan, Unicorn
BB
Soyuz, Sov Rossiya
CV
Nakhimov, Chkalov, Volga
CV 2
Kear

No clue what to put in vanguard and, uhh, Musashi/Alsace/Raffaello as a third for BB and what kind of ships does Kear even want to be paired with?

[atomic abyss]

are any of these URs max stars?

[atomic abyss]

kears wants US carriers only
and isnt used in campaign

[coral elk]

Besides Kear which I'm trying to Dev30, yes

[coral elk]

That's for OpSi

[atomic abyss]

if you dont have MLB Yorktown 2 and Lex 2 you can forget about kears in opsi tbh

if this is specifically for OPSI

do you have moskva?

[coral elk]

I do have York 2, though I guess I have to invest to MLB her

[atomic abyss]

more like just dont use kears at that point

[coral elk]

I have every Soviet ship besides Grozny which has escaped me so far and Dmitry which I'm working towards

[atomic abyss]

nakhimov + 2 UR CVs in 1 fleet
moskva in the front with her
musashi alsace soyuz in another fleet

ignore fleet 4 if you have no other URs

[twin sail]

Hi

[coral elk]

Ehh, I like Kear more than every other UR ship I have(besides Soviet ones), but I guess I could do something else till I d30 her

[atomic abyss]

you can use kears in team 4 when you have all the working parts

like mlb yk2, lex 2, laff 2

[stable badger]

if i wanted a Cross fleet to support, who'd be best used in it now?

[twin sail]

Is it possible to make my fleet with Bismarck zwel and lion in it but still be good

[viscid swift]

I mean Lion is the best BB in the game and Bismarck Zwei is one of the best

[atomic abyss]

assuming they're MLB, they'd be good together in most content outside w13+

[twin sail]

Mlb?

[atomic abyss]

max stars

[twin sail]

Lion is zwei is one star away

[atomic abyss]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[coral elk]

So who do I have with Nakhimov - York2, Amagi, Hakuryuu, Implacable?

[atomic abyss]

refer to bottom row in image @stable badger

[atomic abyss]

amagi and haku probably?
i thought you said yk2 wasnt mlb?

[viscid swift]

and it's fallen behind again

[coral elk]

She isn't but I have enough cores for almost 6 bulins

[atomic abyss]

save them

[coral elk]

And York only needs the last star

[atomic abyss]

just use what you already have

[flint arrow]

i'm trying to progress through w13-2 HM, would you guys say Lion, Kearsarge, Yorktown 2 as main fleet and then agir plymouth cheshire makes sense for boss? i know cheshire is mid but i dont have a better AA ship. alternatively put her into mob fleet and sandy in boss

[atomic abyss]

yk2 isnt as good without her sisters and kear

kears
please use an actual carrier

[viscid swift]

You kinda need Sandy in the boss fleet plus Cheshire, slog it out with 3 CVs in the mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

sandy in boss, chesh in mob could work too

you want as much AA as possible for boss

if you only have the 2 then well, what's said above

[flint arrow]

hmm if i dont take kearsarge then i dont take yorktown 2 either i guess? as i dont have lexington 2 and i missed the essex retro material

[atomic abyss]

if you have nothing better yk2 is fine

kears just doesnt really belong in campaign

[covert dagger]

Kears is anti-light bossing ship

[woven star]

Mob CVs usually based on torp bomers or dive bomers and at least 1 fighters slot for AA. Choose the most ships which have these slots

[covert dagger]

For METAs, CM, EX, etc

[viscid swift]

that's where she shines the best but

[atomic abyss]

the main issue here is moreso

you really want as many carriers as possible for w13H

[flint arrow]

These my carriers

[covert dagger]

Yeah gotta get that ACV and interception up

[viscid swift]

Aquila, Unicorn, Independence mob fleet ez

if you do 2 CV Amagi and Shinano

[woven star]

And Saratoga can be

[coral elk]

Which spot does Moskva take?

[flint arrow]

this for real?

[atomic abyss]

yes?

[viscid swift]

yeah, why would it not be