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aaaa i forgot where to delete augment modules
feed them to other augments
if that doesnt work then equip 24 of them on mlb ship, then enhance
its fine now, thnx
2nd
Should I be able to oneshot YK Meta with Lion (flag) + Meck + BisZwei and Plymouth + Trafalgar + Kurumi?
sonaru was around a minute faster than 3BB
up to you, don't have to use, loot is usually not impressive
Does sonaru have higher medium DPS than 3 BB?
BB was very desynced towards the end of the 6+ minute run
would probably have taken longer if I didn't break auto to realign bis and meck
didn't test sonaru last month but triple BB was 3 min
Is it worth to level 125 sandy retro
Thanks, you too (Updated)
if you're gonna be using her in hard content which you will then yes
Generally ships that you use in hard content (and have a good reason for using them in said content) are worth to 125
Is there a beginner guide here
Which one should I buy here I'm kinda new
Island planning is not tied to any ship or important item acquisition, right?
Is this fleet good for w14-hard ? Fleet 1 is boss fleet 2 is mobs BBs nodes are giving me a hard time for back lane specifically the 3 stars spam
A progression guide for new and returning players, including how to farm ship levels, farm player levels, choose and enhance gear, and manage resources. Also covers fleet compositions by position and role for clearing Chapters 1 through 13.
San diego, CA is really just pick whatever you need for faction tech, meta shop are purple meta which arent really useful except for their lvl 120 tech
why is shinano using parallel torp rather than converging torp ? maybe can change to converging torp
you run parallel in campaign
oh even on bossing fleet?
yea cause the bosses in campaign arent alone
K thanks
i assume the position isn't reflecting how they are in game
for safety i'd just put rudder or fire extinguisher on every backline on your boss fleet. let plymouth offtank instead of unzen
change the saiun to breguet/wyvern on amagi. or you can even run la9 tenrai spearfish on her
Um it reset I didn't notice so can you tell me which one should I buy
What's a good UR aircraft to craft from gearlab using UR design plans?
if you dont have any decent BB, alabama from BB
kazagumo from DD
/gearlab
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Thanks 
only thing ur aircraft design can make is wyverns 
maybe another use when ad1 get added
I see, I gues I go for It then
be like me, accidentally exchanged for 4 UR plane plans instead of AA because sleepy as hell and blind
a month worth of blanks gone
wont cope for it prob because 460 still isn't even perma
unless they do both at once
Actually I'm going to ask what would be better to craft considering I didn't buy anything OpSi yet and I have this. Also can get 3 plans from blue loggers
u need like 7 to craft 1
wyvern if not 2 already else just follow guide or get what u want
I have 0 

Wyvern then 
is 15-1 mob nodes at least lvl 121 or smth?
neat
What UR gera should I craft first in Gear Lab if I only have a Tenrai for main fleets?
Wyvern 
oki, ty
craft only 2 wyvern
make an effort to either craft or buy (from core data) 2-4 Breguets as well
these TBs will be sufficient for all of mobbing and most of campaign
do I buy the blackburn firebrand from the shop or craft it?
whichever is easier for you, because electronics and data core should both still be in relatively short supply
Rest of future materials can then be used on good to great gun & plane gears
Firebrand... when I crafted my Wyverns, I used to buy my Firebrands from Core Data shop.
Nowadays my preferred prio would be to prio OpSi farming to craft both planes and leave some Core Data for some good gears there, especially if this were for newbie SKK. Preferably something that is not already on the Gear Lan
Hey guys, does my choice matter in the event's story ending? I haven't played for a long time and surprised when i see the story has multiple endings
does rigging gear in PR5 had anything worth taking for abit of BPs?
Nah, you can see both endings.
For lore questions, can go to #al-lore
Aight thx ๐
Ply gun but thats craftable and DRs will be coinable soon so zero reason to focus it
And Plym by own should be coinable soon
Do i can clear stage 4-4 with this fleet lvl? i cant clear boss many time because main fleet captain died to suicide boat
before the gear lab update, it was Plyguns. Spam a shit ton of them.
Now that it (and the other PR5 gear offerings like the Harbin gun (?) is there), everyone and their mother can go craft it. So uh, look into going to PR6 (Hinden gun), PR7 (La-9) or PR8 (Mecklenburg gun) instead for gear; besides you only realistically want one to four Plyguns for most content anyways
Your ships isn't full limit broken
limit break your ships with copies of them or Bulins, if passable. Go farm the latest stage that they won't die to
Also a 3rd mainfleet ship would help a lot
need lvl 70 for last limit break
And Portland should be in left tank position
before gear lab update it was only q152 spam if you were done with PR7/8
No. 10, 30 and 70. Three times lb. Your Pensy 0lb. She can't tank
is F6F Hellcat (HVAR mounted) good? and is it for lexington II
Best fighter for light dmg and thats what lex2 is best at
ok thx and the F4U from the event shop is for lex2 third gear slot?
Tf what fighter is better than HVAR for light???
That DB is only for timing really. Purple helldiver is better for dmg
imaginary rainbow HVAR
do i need her to 4 lb? if so i need to use durin or i reset shop
for the record hellcat HVAR is the best fighter for light
I forgot Skyraider is DB not fighter lol
what case do i use it over helldiver?
Timing adjustment for syncing
i see thx
She has drop chance from chapter 2-2. You can try get some copies or wait until shop resets
Okay
just use purple bulins
you get enough of em
what do I get after I have wyvern and tenrai? lol
i assume a bb gun, but idk which one
Actually not sure but elite bulins can be a choice. But better use them on elite ships for now
rather they use the purple then go backwards to farm map drop 
Laffy still 1lb...
ju87 for bossing
I better spend first on them
either graf, kuyb, impero or riche. none are that good honestly
Imper or Rich as 4me
honestly just pick the one you need their faction tech more
ngl it prob be graf to get your hands on agir/fdg faster 
Just my thoughts. Why Impero or Rich. Most all ships coming from easy sources if needed. IB tech points are not a problem too. But out of this what a chance to get these two ships?
impero and richy are the best ships there from a gameplay perspective too
IB tech let's you get some nice earlier research ships, like Roon, FdG, Agir then eventually Meck
I mean from a collector's perspective you'd just hold on to it until you got all the ships but one anyway 
What should I prioritize getting from event?
or hold on to it until you actually want any of them ships and then forget about it
event have another week?
yuh
from gameplay perspective you can get independence, a far stronger ship than impero. riche... well, other than preload, nothing else to write home about
should i take any meta ship from meta supply?
that's why it is better to just pick for faction tech than looking for little to no fleet improvement
They're pretty worthless other than their tech
Anyone?
1st copy of william D, the gear, then everything else you can refer to the pinned doc
wait till the last day before you buy the ur vouchers cause you can get more from daily missions
if you manage to clear all the daily mission from today till before event ends you only need to buy 130? more which is about 19.5kpoints total 
Question, why are my CA doing less damage than DD interms of guns
My CAs are doing 6 damage per shot
While my DDs are doing 34 damage avg
lets put it this way
even the least gun oriented DDs
have 80% efficiency on their main gun slot
for CAs, their secondary slot is usually around 60% or less
Oh
the main dmg from a CA, should be from their main gun
which fires far less frequently and mostly infront of them only
If i want dps
Should i have 1 dd for support 2 ca for damage?
hull doesn't determine their role
Whats a good way to defeat the bomb ships
I mean 6 dmg sounds more like builtin secondaries, those are just always trash
your backliners
CA can be dps, can be buffer, can be tank
DD can be dps, can be buffer, can be tank
they can help
New question, should my backline be carriers or bbs or a mix of the two
~~ram them witht he vanguard
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1 BB 2 CVs by default
depends on the content
one of them should be unicorn
campaign is usually a mix, typically 1 bb 2cv/cvl
in certain cases, you will want different comps
but that's for later
Ty
why do ap bb guns perform so... badly? in campaign? I thought most of the ships in this game have medium armor, so shouldn't they outperform HE?
which AP BB guns do you use, because there's good ones and bad ones
flandre gun rn
in early campaign, most enemies are light
im talking world 12 for now
are there any ways to boost the HVAR drop rates..?
most enemies are not medium at that point
unfortunately nope
there's a difference
oh, uhhh, when does that change?
~~grind more really
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despite how rare they are
ic... ive been like grinding whole day non stop and only got 2 prints... the rates are quite bad
kk, guess I'll just use my ol reliable purple 406
how reliable is eldy slow for hakuhou/shinano/amagi2 fleet assuming they all launch within 0.1s of each other
its sufficent
just use the 410 if you're farming 
aight thanks good enough for me 
isnt it possible that your "guns" are performing worse
hi brah
because you have them synced with carriers
hi nagami hows life
it is bad 
tbh I like the 406 A LOT more after testing both for a while
by all means then
only ship i use the 410 on is musashi, cause obvious reasons
tbh the only AP gun i would use in campaign is like, 457
use more oil, use the dorm for faster mood regen
or ya know, the other UR guns not the musashi gun
457 is the simplest one if you have access to it
I just got 400 pulls in who should I take from the options
got musashi? take musashi if you dont
Alright but I won't be able to mlb right away cause I'm saving my bulins for another ur rerun
that's fine, Musashi is still the best perm UR pick for now
Alright
you dont get anything like fleet tech for retrofitting all ships in the game, right? it's optional I assume?
well you do get a better ship, other than that nope
collection %, no tech
does that collection thing do anything? or is it just a number to feel good about for completionists lol
number only
is this decent?
oki
I've finished A1-B3 of the event but can't beat C1. Any tips?
grind b3
if you cant beat c1, stick to farming b3 to get currency and also more levels
Noted, thanks
Reflections of the Oasis never got a rerun, did it? I havent found anything about one yet and it aired in summer 2023
That is a raid event
And raid events do not get reruns
shipgirls are jailed forever
oh. I hope the Shipgirls will be available eventually, once more.
do we have precedence of older raid-events that had their ships released afterwards?
Off the top of my head i can only name Independence, but they'll come back eventually one way or another
After all they still count for collection % so it would be scummy of the devs to fuck over people trying to 100% collection
noted. Thank you
im trying to complete my Sardagenia-collection because, well, i like their designs. And i was missing these ^^'
does buying skin boxes put the boxes in your depot or like why can't I find it anywhere?
it either auto opens and puts it in skin inventory or gives you the box -> you can open it and get the skin
Only one that doesn't auto open are ones you can pick 
shouldnt be buying skinboxes btw esp if your a new player 
that's based ngl
just need to farm more lol
What are augments and how do they work?
for most ships they have defualt augments which are only minor boosts
however for other they have unique augments that are gamechanging
Tier list for augment modules, rating each unique module's effectiveness and how recommended it is to craft.
Are any of the ships in the medal shop this month worth grabbing?
which one u had?
its server dependent and depends on your progress
Huh, did not know that
yeah, i didnt noticed until i saw the role.
But yeah if u are newbie that hasnt had a team for Ch12 farming yet, consider getting them as your main team lv120 build
Else if u already midgame player, you can use them as 2nd or 3rd team, unless if u already had tons of UR in hands then it is depend on your progress on Fleet-tech / faction-score
Is Belfast good enough to play most of the game with her? Is the game heavily meta-reliant, or is it "play whatever you want but some are better than others"
are u belfast simp ?
if that so, i think let someone who is belfast expert answer then...
although... mobfleet are my advice if you really want to build her
meanwhile to fit her as a bossfleet, i think you should read some Endgame tierlist for it
she works for most events and early campaign stuff but if you want to tackle actually hard content she wont make it
So most of the content is clearable, only the one meant to be hard isn't? Awesome!!
In simple terms, Belfast has been heavily powercrept, especially since she was a year 1 ship
Perhabs
Campaign up to W12 is pretty much baby mode
W13+ and the harder aspects of Operation Siren are where you really have to lean into meta
That's cool!!! So most of the game is playable with her?
13 isn't that hard nowadays, the real challenge is 14+
you will however spend a fair amount of time leveling and preparing in 13
Is it sanctioning to play a fully meta formation but swapping one ship with another, mediocre ship?
Do whatever you want man
the endgame tier list only important when you're in endgame tho
it is quite unnessary for earlygamer
But as a newplayer you really want a best team as a FOUNDATION so you can raise your favorite girl in future... so... maybe take a step back to prepare for other better option, then comeback to build her after got 1 good team for chapter12 (for coin/stuff farming to build her)
but usually when people ask for fleet advice in this channel, they're more focused on meta not waifu
you can use belfast for endgame stuff its just the rest of your ships will have to pick up the slack 
Thank you, got it!!!
at least she is VG ship, so not too painful
Yeah, of course!! Thank you for your advice and patience!
top of VG meta is basically: do everything, don't die, don't let your team take dmg, make enemy take more dmg from main fleet, don't die
Wow, but what's more important? Vanguard or Main? Cuz like, Vanguard does most of the fighting, but main is called "main" so I'm probably missing a massive elephant
main is your main dmg dealers, your vanguard first obj is to survive
Main is important, your VG just exists on the side, there are a few strong VG options in terms of dmg, but they are outclassed by those who buff main fleet or make you virtually unkillable
top of vanguard meta depends on what you're doing
Okay, thank you for explaining!!
unless you need AA specifically, it's kinda the same 5 to 10 ships, cause shit like Z52 and Eldrige are just way too op
Do you really think a newbie would have either of them
even if it's the same ships they can be useful for different reasons
and there are ships that you use for some contents and not others
in what world are z52 and elridge assesible to newbies or anyone rn
in no world, I'm just saying "If you have every ship" there is very little reason to use other ships (unless you need AA)
Main fleets are much more split into niches, while VG ships have way less variety, because the top ships just kinda do everything and make you borderline immortal at the same time
Gouden Napoli Kurumi Sandy Trafalgar Brest Anchorage Laffey2 Guam Mogador Z52 Kazagumo Sirius Hindenburg need i continue?
Shimanto is great for reducing burns in 14
Momo is great with sonaru for current showdown
Kurumi is great specifically for mobbing and survivability in late campaign
these aren't just thrown around interchangeably across "endgame"
"Main fleets are much more split into niches" when we've had UR BBs fighting a bloody war for top damage BB for the past 3 years
also a lot of new players asking don't have access to many if not most of the ships

they did say 'top of VG meta' meaning endgame
Main Fleet Meta is the most stale and uninspired bullshit for years
those are all endgame ships

no but some people are mentioning new player accessability when they stated endgame vanguards
They are claiming Vanguard meta is more stale then mainfleet which hasnt been true for years
that, I wouldn't know yeah
explaining endgame meta to a new player is unnecessary because of accessibility and the time and resources it takes to get there
the key is getting a solid working set of ships that places you in the position to grind for lategame
agreed
aside of the few examples, lets say I accidentally take Z52 instead of any of these 3 ships in their given content and it's not a meta fight that has a hyper specific condition like needing summons, do you think Z52 would all of a sudden majorly negatively impact the run?
Because I feel having a mismatch in the main fleet is much more painful than one in the VG.
also main fleet now if you want top it's basically the BisMeckLion and SoNaRu
you could maybe throw in Kear/LionYorkLex but there's no relevant light boss now
campaign maybe sees more variation but it's still the same pool of Raff Musashi Alsace Soyuz
the UR carriers are relatively interchangeable in the sense they offer little specifically thesmelves compared to the likes of Unicorn, Aquila, Volga and Cowpens
if Raff event isn't on the 2026 reruns list, has she already been rerun? or yet to
She was Feb this year
It hasnt even been a year since she came out
oh she's pretty new then
oh right it's 2026 now lol
lmao
we're already in 2026, and Feb this year hasn't happened
I wish Feb would come, I'd have Guam Laffey II and fingers crossed a UR BB in Feb
can i ask huski bro, is hardmode 11-4 hard? like which Hard chapter are you often farm?
nowadays
And here's the full list while we're at it
Just like there is a specific comp of vanguards that are substantially better there are also a fleet of main fleet that are better. Doesn't mean other fleets don't work
I don't have any good DDs so torp requirement is hard to fulfill, I just farm Chapter 10 hard mode at the moment, maybe 11 when I get Laffey II
mismatch is specific to the content you're running and can occur for both main and vanguard, and with each other
seems I have an older version of it saved, ty
let's say you "accidentally take Z52 instead of any of" is a case of what content this is and what vanguard did you remove and what did that vanguard offer

Z52 is fairly straightforward, but was the ship you took out offering something Z52 can't?
just give gridley like 2 levels or some shit
just level up gridley or william a bit, enhance them
i dont think i try to make absolute statements here, the only thing I'm trying to say is, "if I had to choose between a mismatched VG and a mismatched main fleet, I would always choose the VG, because there is much less margin of error for mismatches in the VG, as long as they survive obviously"
would Gridley even survive there...
if I had to choose between a mistached VG and a mistached main fleet I'm building my fleet wrong
dont need to, just use fleet 2 and stomp it
there is no case where it matters and you'd say to yourself "hey I screwed up with this part of the fleet but the other's fine so it's okay"
yeh but there is a reason why you guys say that main fleet is more important
that's basically the entire point
we say main fleet deals more damage where it's relevant
yes and killing quicker reduces load on VG
I know these 2 are intertwined, VGs can help main and main can help VGs, but all I tried to say is that the main fleet is more impactful and that's why the VG just naturally matters less and you will ultimately feel having "one bad VG unit" less than "one bad main fleet unit".
What even is your argument at this point
, first it's vanguard meta is stale and now it's mainline is more important
shit what am i missing, what did i miss
Main fleet meta being overrated vs Vanguard Meta being stale. Atleast that's my understanding hahaah master
Hey, how do I get pass this absolute cancer of a map. I cant even step near the red tiles. I didnt even go into the red tiles and it resets
Its driving me insane, how tf am I suppose to move then.
walk a bit and TB will solve it for you
i didn't say it's stale, idc if it's stale even if it was. I'm just trying to say that for the guy who wanted to run his belfast, that it's good that he chose a VG ship as his wife, because that's still less painful than, idk, wanting to run uhhh idfk North Carolina in your main fleet, because she is your wife for whatever reason.
that's the entire point of an argument, if I had to give up one slot to a bad or mediocre ship, I'd happily give up a VG slot over a mainfleet slot
you could use Belfast and North Carolina because of voice reasons and it wouldn't matter for about 85% of the game 
Do you know if theres a time limit, like after walking for 10 mins etc then TB will help me. Thanks btw
it should be based on a number of steps/turns, just keep tapping around
unless he turned off the tb guidance?
doesn't matter
well, true, I just wanted to cheer the guy up over wanting to use Belfast lol
TB guidance is a separate thing, TB will still come to laugh at you help you skip the puzzle if you take too many steps without solving
~~ I TRIED~~
๐จ is move
๐ต is get teleported
I dont know how to turn off TB guidance I quit the game for like 4 years and I just came back. So not very familiar with it
Aye thanks, will try
I mean if you really want to there should be a guide out there somewhere but we usually just tell people to wait for TB to do it at that point
Alright
Hikaru Nakamura type Commander
I can only coin/develop 1 PR and 1 DR ship at a time correct?
as a bulin MVPer I know exactly what it means to use waifu for shits and giggles 
Let me show you how to solve the puzzle, which is Siren Research Facility No. ZKT5G-II in Azur Lane.
Music Used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kJkQsx88T4
damn i forgot how ass opsi is with the puzzles for beginners
like whats the point lmao, they should revamp opsi
tf is that thumbnail art ๐
Azur Lane 2 leak
Technically you can do more at once, but the daily discounts arent applied individually per ship so you may as well just do one at a time
wtf
and I can only research/unlock one ship (of any rarity) at a time right
if you wanna be efficient with your coins, then that is what you will have to settle with
you can coin more than one ship but you only get 2 free and up to 13 more discounted prints for each rarity each day
and the discount drops very steeply after the first 10
I personally like the 5 DR prints and 7 PR prints combo per day
that's annoying, research exp mission takes so long and I could be unlocking so many other ships rn 
you will say that till you realize that coining and getting prints takes INFINITELY longer
XP mission can be finished in like 2 days when you're later in the game
I just don't have the oil atm, doing 12-4 whenever I can though
also broke on coins rn
I have like 10 research ships unlocked and I have fully dev'd only 2 of them.
yeh take your time, will get better as you're more caught up
keep in mind we get like 5 new ships a year so as long as you finish more than 5 a year you're going faster than the game
at least I got 2 HVARs
, don't need to farm event anymore
no rush, believe me, the prints will be your final boss, not the research exp, that one is such a small obstacle on you getting a useful ship
farm SP for the 5 vouchers
oh right yeah
how many score u got in event
?
80k
if you focus correctly, a new series only takes less than half a year to finish
which sr do i invite from the card except for kuybyshev? im able to develop all pr ship so tech pts dont matter
crap I forgot and I was thinking of skipping SP
oh for sure, I'm just doing coinable only ships so far though
back to SP I guess sigh
true, but tough for newer players who still spend coins on many other parts of the game
can keep the invitation for now
use it when gacha doesnt give u the last ship from there
I've done uh Roon, Anchorage just needs a bit more exp, gonna do FdG right after her since I have the tech now
watch me end up with excess HVAR prints
did u farm WA?
yeh so you can drag that out then realize it's still doable well before the next series comes
for IB tech?
I got Tirpitz from somewhere recently (don't remember where) so she helped a ton
probably from a shop
medal shop 
does this mean I have to farm another 20 prints just so I end with a round number
speaking of hvar 130k points only 60 prints 
already had Bismarck from somewhere too so yeah those 2 carried a ton (plus I had mlb Prinz Eugen from when I first got the game)
my perfect 50 leftover hvar prints were ruined now I have 8 extra
from SP alone and 1x B3/day 1x D3 total 
based on his team here i pretty sure he had quite much WA farmed || #1441564631268331721 message ||
Also what the heck is that lv100 Warsprite 
sounds about right
nah didn't farm any WA except Polaris
also I thought Warspite was good 4 years ago okay, don't blame me
she was
still is kinda but cost to performance is 
how about the medal shops? for now i got BB and DD, i alr got kazagumo on mlb
inb4 hitting confirm
if you need the HMS tech, not a bad option
Warspite basically only had a short stint in PvP after retrofit
I'm probably gonna grab PoW for HMS tech when I work on Plymouth
she is also +2 acc iirc, warspite i mean
Are there any guides for the meowficers or whatever they are
Mori told i should focus on UR BB (NOT WARSPRITE)
but yeah i was wonder about tech too
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Ok so Iโm still in SO and have over 2000 action points. Whatโs the best way I can use them to build up the tickets for reset?
Thx
c5 spam 
or if you dont mind it taking longer c3
u havent reset yet?
Just clear everything? If you have nothing to clear then C5 spam as said above
thats what im wondering too
No I fell asleep doing Siren ops last night when I woke up it didnโt reset so Iโm able to keep going somehow
8 hour post maint no reset 
how did u manage this
at this point just burn everything ASAP in C5/6 and get back to your normal game, you're missing your commissions, researches and books
if you havent left/got forced out of opsi it doesnt reset
c5 fastest
c3 best for AP but i would just do C5 at this point
you can stay in OS for as long as you don't restart or leave the mode
Here Iโll post pic
op hack, I'll keep that in mind if I'm ever late
u also got a bonus 6/7 missions doing this 
Itโs not a hack
to be fair I didn't reset opsi for 4 hours after reset time cos I had 5 strongholds, arbiter and some loggers to clear lmao
Not like I cheated any of the stuff I have in
I bought it all in shops of SO but didnโt use it through the month
yeah it is a known trick dw
i used to do it for the bonus missions but i cba now 
can I buy another after clearing my current file mission? the ones that give UR plans
I probably should try this next month 
should i buy agir gun BPs or should i just wait until guam gun rerun?
you can buy a new one after you clear this one but there's no rush since they're one time only
the last mission is actually a bit diffcult for new players btw 
last mission of each? or last logger specifically
if you can spare the proto cores you can buy the prints but you'll need 25 for a gun, shop only has 20 each month
assuming you don't have short term plans to use more than 1 CB I'd just wait for guam gun
if u lucksacc an abyssal coord it could be 10/15 extra plates 
i alr have 6 of them
last of each has a bit harder of a boss, but you can use 50 energy to heal
wait for guam
no reason to have more than 1 CB gun tbf
each classified logger makes you clear 10 zones
after you clear all 10 you can buy and use the next
the loggers don't repop in shop so there's no rush to do them, I'd recommend buying other things first
having 1 HE gun i guess is ok too but for AP 1 is only rly needed
Is it worth spending these vouchers? It costs a lot, and I don't quite understand how it works in practice. I've already had my first operation reset. I still have to buy a lot of these loggers for, apparently, story notes. I don't know if it's worth taking it either.
HE guns just do PR8 really
this is all I need to buy out though right? I have 4400 vouchers left so considering just buying the file missions one by one
both are qol options so its up to you
right removes fog of war for the yellow loggers
hidden zone is worth since u can get 10-12k vouchers per month which is enough to sweep the resetting part of the shop
oil is up to u
it is only QoL but 5k oil can be worth more to some ppl
why not buy the books and the crystal frags
the loggers don't go anywhere but the expendable items refresh each month
yes the coords are highest prio
fragment and books not so much
can speedrun the files
or get the hidden zone logger for end of month QoL
yeah fair enough, I'll do that thanks
the only reason to speed run classified loggers is to speed run rainbow designs
speed run that wyvern 
by the way what sort of UR plan is dropped from these file missions? is it the blank or a random one
blank
that's what I was thinking lol
the problem if you try to speed run wyvern is you'll likely just end up stuck without enough electronics anyway
if I buy the blackburn firebrand I could make one...
but I have been saving for tables
after wyvern what next ?
wat
I bought it in mindlessly does it mean i screwed up? 
dont buy it imo
just craft it fully
coredata is worth even more now cause of the UR table
tbf I only need like 5 more electronics anyway, to craft from fulmar
btw at some point u might also want to look into this thing for opsi
#gameplay-help message
but now now
do it like 6 months into the game
it wastes some AP
last zone is higher level but whatever
at some point when you realize it's a thing you'd already have about 50% of the stars from auto
what the fuck is that
files for exploration stars
Isnt that for collection/lore wise etc?
it is also for the stars
and some stars give abyssal coords and cubes 
it is but a bunch of them are tied to one of the stars for that zone
Hmmmmmmmm
yummy
yes but the star itself is not tied specifically to the files, it's based on number of stars cleared for the zone
how many cubes do I want before doing cube research again?
and most of the 4 and 5 star rewards are junk
๐ณ not gonna say 1000 but yeah u do it when u swipe
I think most just say no below 1000-600, your tolerance may vary
800+/1k+
I play 2 years now and only do rainbow/gold cube research
hmmm okay okay
that is for full cubing
ocassional rainbow/gold cube research is fine even at 200/300/400 depending how much of a risktaker u are
I have yet to see any sort of rainbow research...
i think i got my first 4 months into the game
it doesnt happen that often
to be fair you start doing them and you don't notice your stock is down then you're kind of cooked, safer to just not start before you have a fairly safe line
I only did it once last week
It does gave mutiple girls BPs at once
But tbh compare to gear wise it is not worth
also what was the supposed rate I should be getting of Meck prints per day/week?
0.5hr face costs cubes but it's the second best research for gear
honestly there isnt any data
let me check my log for pr5
i skip my 1st rainbow research for Gouden and it never appear again
0.5hr soul forming on the other hand is only if you're rushing ships or trying to use as a refresh
honestly 0.5hr face if only for ship prints saves you maybe a day or two on research overall, personally I recommend taking it because gear prints, but only if your resources permit
Huh warspite gave free in 7days if you leave the game and return long enough... how long was it?
i not gonna 4 years like huski bro
this was my average BP/day when focusing full PR/DR face research minus catchup
i sadly dont have only ply/brest data
at least a month, I'm not sure of the exact window
what...
that's a lot.
last few entries is where some ships where done
so i expect around 15/day early and later 10/day when only DR left should be the expected values
Naruhodo 
I remember being told my Meck prints were low for how long I've been focusing her
you can fit 9 2.5 hour researches a day, they range from 1-3 prints
10+ prints a day is perfectly notmal
it is not DR only remember
PR+DR and I did prio faces over Q and G
and also i was ~5 months into the game at that point so better coin income and research uptime
it can be only DR if it's after you clear out PR pool
only listen to ppl who have data 
oh right PR too
maff doesn't lie
If follow that
how many day to dev30, assume no catch up/ no selector bps)?
though I was told to do Q whenever I can since I'm new
Can someone give me some thoughts on pr8 gears
Has anyone ever a guild operation start by itself? (I'm the master in my guild and still trying to figure it out)
you can lie with maff though
i logged less data for PR/DR6 but i was still on full D focus and this was the rates
so on full focus u can have ~13-15 early to ~10 in the end
officers can start em, you can also check in the expenditures tab of guild log
this advice is not the same as when i started
since gear focus is becoming more mainstream and also the best season which used to be PR4 is now coinable so less incentive to do full ship focus
my preference is DR+Q focus personally so i agree with that advice
It's pr8 gear not gearlab update or im missing something?
my face priority goes something like Meck > Gouden > Plymouth > rest
with PR I just grab whoever really
but overall research prio has been Meck face 2.5 or 5hr, Gouden face 2.5 or 5hr, any Q and then PR ones, with shortest time being prio
additionally you want like a few copies of the rainbow gear nowadays 
that is probably the best focus
ditch plymouth imo tho since she will be coinable soon
i would take G4h over any PR face tho (the gold faces)
i honestly wouldnt bother grabbing ply faces
cause coinable soon and gear is alr in gearlab
G research can give DR prints and gear prints
and G4h is overall very good
oh I was doing it since I plan on using the BPs for her after I do Ancho then FdG, I'm gonna be converting all of Roon's, Ancho and FdG prints but if you think I should coin then I can
oh PR8
it's pretty much just meck gun or bust
the torps are a new fast launching torp
stig should have a vid on it too dig lower
nevermind someone else already linked it
well i assume u will get Mecklenberg in like next 3 months
Assume u use 2 month to prepare the Research, but 1 scenario is u fully on Gear research, 1 other u is fully on BPs research
So yeah, 2 months, would u choose to "Having a meck gun" or "having a 700bps meck" then wait 1 month to get her
do i aim for sec wyvern ?
idk, I just look my Meck BP rate and it seems very very slow
up to you if u want to convert FdG catchup to protocore
last time I did the math u only "needed" 3 DR protocore conversion to get most of the required gear
azuma and drake gives u 2 and u can pick 1 for the last 1
FdG/Agir/Brest all possible
could someone let me know the protocore conversion per PR and DR print
ofc this will all take a lot of time

oh lmao, ty
en reading strikes again
can i request a darkmode for the pic?
also gotta factor in the longer it takes the more cruise pass woulda gone by increase your protocore count 
lemme just calculate how many protocores I'll get from conversion currently
I did take that into account that is why the numbers are not exactly the same of the required catchup and total protocore needed 
are we really need 3 of those bf-109?
i've gotten the first 6 items of this list and only anaylzed pr1
only for fighting light bosses and you can just craft em from gearlab, or use bbs instead
technically there are compositions that could use 5
but 3 is a good amount to have until u get more La9
or in 5 months have 3 meck guns and every PR8 ship at dev30
And a lion? 
lion should rerun in 2027, like near summer
im at month 3 and a bit for pr8 and i gotten 1.92 meck gun and a dev 30 meck so its not that bad tbh 
that is actually quite good
did you mean priority + recommended for 'required gear'
all of it tbh
even counting luxury and the potential La9 u only need 3 DR catchups converted
converting DR prints for gear is not particularly realistic or practical
the confusing part is I demoted everyone so no one but me should've been able to start it. Ghosts in my guild ๐ป
i would still take 1 extra drake gun over getting drake dev30 15 days earlier tbh
i mean you could check the guild log it definitly say who
well I was definitely planning to convert FdG prints at the least, maybe I should do Plymouth too then
since my DR ship route I planned was FdG then Ply
why not just keep those 2 guns for later when u finish prio and can convert drake and azuma 
which guns?
getting ply and fdg 15 days later is fine tho tbh
as long as it wont hurt your progress
you can't convert prints before dev30
if you don't use the 150 prints then you're taking (150/(your daily discount prints)) days longer to finish the ship before you can convert the prints
which ship's guns are those
drake and hindy
drake and hindenburg
drake gun in pr3 and hinden gun in pr6
are they both CA guns
yes
I'd be getting Guam gun soon right
yes
do I really need those guns?
yeah but guam is CB
not rly comparable
these guns are mainly for unzen/hindenburg
if you use CAs yes
guam is a cb gun, drake and hindy are for ca
oh I see, though neither I'll get soon I think (Unzen and Hindy)
they're incredibly low priority so yeh
not rly that is why it is luxury 
my point is if u are only thinking about getting this part for now then u dont need to analyze DR catchup
only 1 maybe for the La9
trusty eugen gun shoved on all of my CAs 
Unzen's HE gun is better for CBs though, and it's the only case where this is true 
unless your name is Agir
Is there a current guide on cats?
/cats
MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE
What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.
How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!
How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.
What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).
What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.
Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.
thanks
sonaru is so stable I dropped +13 catapults for beacons and all it's doing is killing 2s faster 
why would it be only 3 DR catchups, isn't that only 9000 protocores?
you need what, 4125 + 7125 + 4125 for everything but Luxury
which is 15375 protocores
not considering handbook missions but those take a while
so it's including all those PR ships? being converted?
Yes u should convert pr1-2-3 and 5
The ships are not worth getting them early
It is also much cheaper and easier than DR
Only use anchorage catchup on her
Why on slaimuda they recommend ca guns on gouden leeuw but from what i read in game it's more beneficial to put cb gun on her? 
even ancho I'm not gonna convert since Laffey II and Guam are good enough tanks for now (I think)
The only CB gun she can use is a goofy ass purple rarity gun
that's wrong
the only cb gun she can equip is her own gun from pr8 as well as that purple gun, and the CA guns are just better
her personal gun is a CB gun
Oh right
always keep thinking that it's cateogrized as CA
her own gun
that assumes I've done catchup for all of them though right
That is fine if u dont need her soon
I forget if her gun outpaces most all SSR CA guns, but it doesn't outpace UR CA guns afaik 
I wouldn't say CA guns are just better, GL gun works fine on GL and is much cheaper than giving her a rainbow CA gun
Sry not sure what u mean
It assumes u should convert those catchups yes
Not when
The order is up to you
that's kind of the point, you need rainbow CA guns to outdo her gun at which point just use her own gun unless you really have no place else to use CAs
ya being in the market for UR CA guns basically means you have fuck all left for gearing priority 
I wasn't sure if I'd be able to do catchup for them all in time that's all
So tldr rainbow ca > gouden gun > gold ca
caveat
+13 rainbow CA > +13 GL > +10 rainbow CA
don't know why you'd put that much investment into, but sure
just slap on her gun and call it a day
Oh u can dw
U should dev 1 ship per season anyway
This guide is more of a goal
Not follow it exactly
It just gives you the least painful way to get the minimum required gear imo
If u choose to take it slower/faster and convert more/less catchup for more protocore that is perfectly fine
I can get behind putting 120 plates in for GL
terrible investment
if you have your Main Fleet Main Gun priorities settle, I guess 
I mean of course they're after BB guns still
also why did you skip PR4 for conversion, is it because you'd want to use the catchup for Ancho and AvP
Anchorage yes
use +13 GL where, shitting light mobs at w12? lol

wherever you use GL really
Because of anchorage mainly yes
Most newbies lack good tanks and should get her asap to make opsi less painful
where we use GL, hind gun is the choice lol
it also has the advantage of being a bracketing gun so it works on the dogshit rammers in 14
surely there's better options than that though...
Oh now that you mention i forgot i have 2 hinden guns
it kind of boils down to what you're using GL for
how long I have to wait
8 months
and like 14 days
maybe 9 
L for dev
this year en anni 
it likely is, but in shop and not free from event
actually now that you mention it I should check where my rainbow CA guns are 
just to make sure though, I only need to do catchup and start unlocking those coinable PR/DR ships once I've unlocked and dev30'd the ships I plan on using right? Such as FdG, Anchorage, Monarch (filler), Plymouth, Agir, Meck, GL
damn bro cant retrofit anything ๐ญ
Hi, I'm trying to improve my BB fleet. What can I use from here along Lion and Vanguard? I was using Musashi until now
BisZwei
when did they make Yuudachi's retro item perm relative to when it reran 
Well im trying to find a use for my 2nd hinden gun, idk if putting both 2 of them on Hindenburg is the right way ...
it is if you're using her
nothing from the current states, keep using musashi lion vanguard
I probably should reorganize my CA guns my 2 +13 hindenburg guns are on ships that aren't seeing active duty 
a year after it reran
I would yes
Unless u have downtime between those ships
If your meck is not ready (prints I mean)
No reason to rush her
Prioritize ships over gear
The handbook protocore should get you the 3 BB guns which is really the only super priority gear u need
I have the 3 BB guns and halfway to a Tenrai atm
Okay, do I replace her when I get Zwei mlb? I'm going for that right now
Then yes u can take your time with the catchups
Get the ships u need then when u have downtime research stuff for catchup > protocore
uh, i guess depends on the boss?
alright tyyy
sorry for dragging this out so much lol, just wanted to fully understand it
Btw for the tenrai there is no time limit
So only get it when u have the full 3k
No worries
Better understand and not make mistakes u regret later 
AFCT also exists
Removes fog in explorable zones and lets u strategic search them
The rewards are same as clear reward u just get them faster
Aweeee, there is still actionpoints there?
U dont get more rewards by buying it
It is just qol
Ye ok, not wurf for now as poor on oil then
I only bought it once
It is just for ppl who dont want to manual clear those zones
I've always bought the 5k Oil logger, the convinence is just so nice 
it does turn all zone bonus rewards into a care package 
not quite. You still have to run 50 zones to unlock all the shops..and with the purple tube things that raise stats ..they make it easier (for newer players)..so, it does have a really good use..not just the healing and extra AP packs. (at 150 of the op siren stats, forget the names..you've got the highest bonus from them for 90 percent of the maps or so). So..it's quite worth it if you have the oil, and a "necessary evil"
Tubes have to be used from storage tho to count
I mean not really
just gotta be strategic in how you go about clearing the nodes
not to mention you can buy 60 adapts for each stat from the exchange shop every month
150 would imply the tuning samples and the ones the oil logger give
like i said - for newer players that aren't beyond a certain power threshold..it can be quite helpful
you're also free to just heal in port as many times as you like
but if you have enough oomph to steamroll everything than it really doesn't matter if you do or don't.
like, just target c1 nodes first, then c2, then c3 etc
you don't have to go straight for C5s and C6s first
it overall does break down the tedium, cause you do have to manually clear these zones, and it does depend on how you choose to clear them 
oil logger is just there for convenience overall and that's kind of it, it's not something a new player should normally afford because oil should be going towards campaign clear 
does one need lvl 30 cats for max loot from meowofficer search in opsi?
the game only mentions that High Rarity, and High Level affect the loot, nothing more specific
does anyone have the ship tierlist on hand? the google doc
this?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
ty
do we have an ideal opsi mob fleet?
unicorn + 5
Unicorn + 5 trash is not ideal
i was thinking maybe
unicorn/lexi 2/lion and whatever vanguard?
Hi, on what circumstances UR mags are better than SR quad mags?
how good is the dive bomber from this event?
only used for timing reasons for single target bossing iirc.
I use that French cvl that launches an air-strike around 10 seconds after the fight started
None really
Okay, thanks
is willy dih actually usable
Like only frontline or full USS fleet
Backline is what matters. Frontline can be whatever.
well I can manage backline
any tips for getting lucky?
luck harder
level up your gambling skill
get more resources to gamble
if need more, farm or ๐ณ
is F4U(VBF-94 Squadron) good?
In Operation Siren, how tf u get back to the exchange shop that opens when it resets? I needed to get out since didnt have enough oil for that one item that costs 5K... so I grabbed some, went back in... have no idea where to open that shop x _ x
bottom left
of?
overview, when you see the map/nodes
ooh ty
Niche usage for its timing
cool thx
When do you start seeing UR gear drops or is that something that has to be built in gear lab?
There are several ways to get UR gear
Mainly gear lab and research
Gear lab u have to craft them with opsi materials
Research is slow
U get random drops of blueprints
50 prints = 1 gear
There are some other sources like event shop and shops like coredata shop and protocore shop
Ok thanks. I'll look those up. I had seen the ones in the gear lab and knew those would be a slow build.
Been playing a few months so still figuring it out
not all UR gear is worth while btw, so do a little research
Thanks Taz I will. I've been looking up info on gear recently to try to improve fleet. That was why I was curious about UR gear.
/equip Make sure u check the new QGG
Equipment Guides and Tier Lists
๐น Equipment picture guide by samheart564
๐น Quick Gear Guide by elp
๐น Full details on equipment statistics
๐น List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
๐น Augment modules guide
use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs
Second link 
is there an alternative to BisZwei for the black hole thing she does among BBs?
No
NJ vs warspite retro? Resources aside
Warspite retro is such a massive resource dump...
Sure is but she better than NJ?
they're basically on par
Yeah ok
Anyone gotna IntrepKai/York2/Lex2 setup? Intrepid is firing way faster then the others
And I got the Skyraiders and light killer planes
Who is intrep Kai and why not just use kearsarge or lion
Intrepid and sunk cost fallacy
intrepid got a UR retro 
Hi, why does Zwei desync to fire last after first sync point? I see the main gun reload is faster than Lion, may be I missed something?
this is crazy, I ran out of ap didnt even get to clear the map yet
She got blocked by Vanguard. Lion got blocked too but she doesn't care because 2 salvo capacity
did you just repeatedly use 8 ap for recon
no
What does that mean? That she got blocked
How can I check the capacity thing?
Maybe I slow Intrepid down?
Click some questions marks or documentation on the calculator
Salvo capacity is mentioned in limit break text, currently only Lion Alsace Meck have extra capacity beyond their reloading
Oh okay. Thank you so much. I will look for it 
@red sapphire
Try using something like Larscalc ( https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ ) to be precise. Also her name isnโt Intrepid. 
Thank you 
Ahhh, I got their names mixed up lol
these reset every month ?
no
wtf. how rare is this one, I have legit never seen it?
Rare, but dw. It doesnโt guarantee gold, just has a chance. Last time I got it I got a blue iirc.
damn, sad
worthless anyway, best commission is the gem one
the reason is the pool is still the starting one
,also gems better anyway
Where can i find that AA pictuee showing all the ranges?
samheart guide,also suchi i think
Thanks
unless you mean "all ranges" for that you go to the wiki
Thats the exact diagram I was looking for
was there a map with a good cap to farm affinity in 1:1?
affinity gain is a set value per battle
so just find the one that uses the least oil
yes, where is it?

tbh mvp doubles it
How does this work?
Be honest how long does it take for me to unlock a meta character
like 1-2 weeks
And thatโs playing non-stop? Okay
Iโm talking fully limited break
Once you have enough tech points, you can start work on the tasks on the right that unlock once a day. Once done with all the tasks, you can obtain the ship.
To MLB the ship, youโll need a lot of blueprints. Older ships you can just buy the prints with coins, but newer ones like Nakhi you have to get them from the Research Academy.
So 25k points, bit less than a month.
its useless anyway, why even bother; no tech
Maxing a waifu is never useless.
because she looks like saber and same goes for repulse
thats my reason XD, no meta reason just for the love of the character XD
can oath and get skin for 0lb
Guys serious question what should I do to a musashi that I rolled after I already max limit broken her before
Like I already max limit broken musashi with UR bulins but now I have another musashi
retire it.
Why are you rolling for Musashi 
Guam and Laffey are like in a week
2-1 probably
but you should really be doing campaign oilcapped stages
He's been pulling heavy or special for a month, dont bother at this point
guys how do I get Prototype Cores
Because sheโs hot
Why should I care about them?
I'm pretty new, should I use my UR bulins on WDP or wait for Laffey? I have no leveled DDs that aren't Z23
Laffey, Willy D is far far far more niche
from what i understand, mostly through grinding and weekly stuff. see the wiki: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Specialized_Core_Collection_Plan
damn. and she was bad as hell too.
i c
Wrong one
The one they want is obtained by fodder pack exp and pr prints
sorry like i said, i am in fact new and confused the two similar sounding resources used in the same place.
Another question about MLB for UR ships. I have Shinano who's one limit break away from being maxed out, and I haven't claimed the UR ship from the commander handbook yet, should I prioritize that over Laffey II then?
idk how much difference the final limit break makes, she's already able to reach max level right?
Always mlb your URs. Even if you can max lvl her the limit break stats is totally necessari
For this you probably may want to show your current URs so if someone can recommend you a better option they may want to check
I wouldn't prioritize bullins for perma URs
my only UR is shinano lmao
i don't think i understand what you mean
permanant URs
Shinano is permanent pool (no event)
How can i speedrun the xp needed for the shipyard ships
Probably spam 12-4 with the needed ships
3 ships back or front , and w12
I'm struggling getting napoli and nakhimov
first off, are you in chapter 12 yet
Yea, i can do 13-1 also
then just farm 12-1 or 12-4 with 3 applicable main fleets/vanguards, preferably ones that need levels
And we'll have guam rerun in january?
yes
ah so basically your point is i shouldn't use a bulin on shinano since eventually i'll probably get a dupe from construction,
and that i should save the bulins for laffey 2/wdp or some other limited UR?
this game is kinda harsh with me, i took 1 year break and the last 2 ur events i got them at pity and now i'm at lexington at 194 pools and i have only 2 cubes
also you get invitations that give you sinano or other ur's
rip. consolation prize is that you'll hit hard pity pretty soon.
kinda
the older URs tend to be powercrept, you also never want to pull on heavy or special just get perma URs by accumulating points on pity for the permanent banner
so i've been told, but it does seem like UR event banners are pretty common, so idk if i'll ever even get the opportunity to pull on a permanent banner lol
You should be pulling one light a day
You technically don't need to pull Guam event , the two best ships in the event are free anyway
is that for the daily mission
Yes, the mission refund the cube so... free stuff
that makes sense, i restarted halfway through the event so i've been spending everything on lexington II anyway
@viscid swift what is your advice for a decent comp for northen parliment/ sardegna empire for main
might wanna give that a read
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/progression-guide/
A progression guide for new and returning players, including how to farm ship levels, farm player levels, choose and enhance gear, and manage resources. Also covers fleet compositions by position and role for clearing Chapters 1 through 13.
Garibaldi, Kirov, and Pompeo
you really don't need much to make a fleet work in W12 on safe
And for main something like perseus mushashi new jersey
oh you gave them AA
ok that's dirt cheap only decent gear on cleveland meta, i think i'm overthinking it too much :))
I was running cross fleets but yeah
dont forget he has like balls crazy amounts of crossfleet
if you bother to put together something half decent and gear them well it's not that difficult
only Musashi, Alsace, and Soyuz
anyway, use main fleets that need levels as well
what was the gem eff spreadsheet
Oh, this is helpful.
Guys who should I get with wish-fulfilling card
apparently either your waifu or save it for when you have all but one of them from other sources
I mean like the best one for me to continue on the story
none
Crazy๐ญ๐
ironically there are older invites with more useful selections but this lineup's just not doing much
Impero and Richy would be the best
Choose the one that might get you to a research ship you want
it's a case of some ships may be better or harder to get regularly, but none of them will actually be useful to a newer player, or worth the resources to raise over an otherwise easy to obtain ship
oh right we're not expecting new ships till end of Jan are we...
correct
and feb should be fairly light-weight with CNY banner? (until new UR)
pretty much
typical 1 SSR banner + 2 elites or smth
Do we have a stable 14-4h hardmode fleet? Clearing mode boss only. And opsi gear if ships will be used in opsi. Tysm
La9 also end of jan right?
whenever that shop update is around there
if it's tagged to CNY then more likely early to mid Feb
check pins for stig and jimmy's clear fleet
It used to be at end of dec and last year its end of jan
don't expect them to be 100% stable on lethal, you'll still be subject to RNG on the mob nodes you get and how good/bad you fare against the BBs
it was never end of Dec?
I dont need lethal full clear tho. I just need stability and efficiency
Am on clearing mode. Boss only
double BB should be most stable then
that's just less RNG without needing to do 0 ammo fights, you're still subject to being vaporized by bad BB shots
I did but sometimes my alsace die 1st or my volga does
safe mode should provide stability
Its unstable 1/10 fail rate
do you have it on safe already
try lion musashi and another CV
Yes
I was doing lion alsace and volga. Il try sushi tmrw
why volga
He or ap gun? On sushi. And who flag
Aquila heals main fleet better if you need a main fleet heal, or now Cowpens
People suggested it. Supposed to be cowspen but not max lv
think i used 457 on lion and daisen on musashi, but you can experiment other variation
honestly I'd say Lion's only real claim to 14 mobbing is cheesing sub burns, if you're not doing 0 ammo and have decent ASW other UR BBs are better
U think in few days i get cowpens up will fix it?
I can't be bothered to set up something for 14-4 at this point, I'd just default to 14-2 or 14-3, they drop more useful META mats anyway
what were your vanguard?
Its boss so sub doesnt matter
maybe because cowpens is a lot better than volga but im not the biggest offhealer in boss fan
Laf2 ply and eldridge
oh boss well good luck with BBs
A lot? That much?
go more aggressive vanguard
you basically just have to kill very fast or manually clear BB shelling
Nah once my vanguard all died
or be very lucky
vanguard can die because you dont kill stuff fast
I watch them ate 3 mogami torp and half health
I feel like the only way to get a consistent fleet is to go defensive auxes in the main fleet
a more consistent fleet, which is still not very consistent
you're not going to be able to consistently dispatch the BBs in time
14-4 boss just likes to melt your main fleet if you're not looking
yeah, like I said I'm not bothering with 14-4
Ig il follow u and do 14-3 when i get 4 more new orleans to save bullins
Cause 14-3 i can pretty stable do it
14-2 and 14-3 are easier and drop better meta mats anyway
if you want NO do it on normal, you don't farm on hard
I have one
of all the times to try and save bullins with dupes late campaign drop ships is not one of them
yeh
I dont need to like farm for her. I just wanna get lucky drops to save bullin
New Orleans also nothing spectacular to bother raising unless you're just running out of ships anyway
I mean its hardmode il do everyday soooo
start doing pvp everyday if you havent ig
just farm 14-4 like me? like idk why you want to do 14-4H
But i want do my tech and things
maybe shimanto will be better? idk
Cause i do hardmodes everyday but not 14-4 everyday
trading dmg with deburn, not sure which will be better
I used to and now no too much effort
like I said are you running out of ships to level
you won't farm 14-4H every day becasuse as you said yourself you want a dead consistent fleet which currently doesn't exist
either do it in safe or just do 14-4 normal daily idk
locking gear on 6 ships for 14-4h is more effort than doing 15 attacks in 10 minutes total
and if you want to farm dupes to replace bulins do it on normal
new UR g7e always better than bidder even if UR one can't go for 2 reload right? 
True ig i need oath some ships and get their affinity fromn100 to 200 anyways
what sub setup are you using
if old g7es get an extra barrage in they should be better
U-81 (currently using 2 bidder)
like getting tech is one thing, getting tech from NO first is another if you have other ships to raise anyway
if you're using non-maxed wolfpack I'd honestly just stay with bidders until you max the wolfpack or move to fishpack
Whats 4 ship realy worth to oath. Like still be useful even 2 years later
unicorn
I have
if you're limited on rings just oath your favorites
helena 
we have no idea what the meta will be in 2 years
if ur being cheap then just oath whoever you like lol
or even if the game will be around in 2 years
I did. I just got extras from events abd such
eos foreshadow
then save your oath for future favorites
ranger remains the best backline ship in game
I believe yes
I hate RNG and so should you
there's probably one guy out there who just has a ranger who's never missed a proc
that's me
So is new g7e worth? At least 2 for i404?
dependsโข
Best now is 2fish and 404 right
subs are kinda of not worth in general but if you're balling out on rainbow torp prints and torp plates
i404 can get maybe up to 3 reloads with G7eK but that needs her in flag which takes away from Flasher
I have 16 now soon il have 18 for 2 torp
you can just save the mats until you actually use subs for w16 or eos or next mechanic something
maybe they make a good surface rainbow torp in summer gear lab update
according to stig 95K is still better for bosses
according to # G7eK is better against light/med
G7eK is probably better for mobbing
O ok
according to everyone though, end game sub content not found
honestly the best reason to craft G7eK is if you have +13 G7es since you can reinvest the gold plates
reinvest gold plates into what torps
into the G7eK but only manage +11 
I have like 1k gold plates.....
ok jeff bezos
i have like 1k torp gold plates too
I just want spend them and idk whether g7e is worth
if you don't know whether it's worth just don't make it
if you care about sub gaming, they are worth
noobs
it partly depends on which subs you're using and what your current subs are
If not ig il continue to stack until some good surface torp
i have 500
turns out i never craft anything
I only have 3 u at lv120 which is kinda joke. I want to raise 404 and 2 fish but idk how or when ig
I don't know how you guys have so many excess torp plates actually I do but I don't want to talk about it
Question to the mine(craft) people, does any form of burn reduction affect lion? like durations and direct burn dmg reduction or no?
Lion burn is not a burn
hopefully you +13ed at least the 2 improved quad mags
its classified as a dot but not a burn?
lion burn is just dmg tick, not burn
yeah, so nothing really works against it
O ya and also few normal ones and a ur one
and thats why its BS
just set up Flasher/Archerfish/404 and auto summon
it's partly why it's so broken in PvP
so pvp broke 3 times in 1 year, incredible
Wut abt affinity?
Lion, Lexington 2 and who again
eld
Cause all my mob are in 2nd floor for affinity


