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wind hazel
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yes

digital vault
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aaaa i forgot where to delete augment modules

boreal wagon
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feed them to other augments

digital vault
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I cant even cuz im over the cap ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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173/150

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oh wait i can enhance

wind hazel
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if that doesnt work then equip 24 of them on mlb ship, then enhance

digital vault
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its fine now, thnx

vernal thunder
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is there a better choice or does it not matter

silver lintel
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2nd

deep cypress
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Should I be able to oneshot YK Meta with Lion (flag) + Meck + BisZwei and Plymouth + Trafalgar + Kurumi?

whole crypt
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sonaru was around a minute faster than 3BB

whole crypt
sweet delta
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Does sonaru have higher medium DPS than 3 BB?

whole crypt
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would probably have taken longer if I didn't break auto to realign bis and meck

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didn't test sonaru last month but triple BB was 3 min

upbeat wagon
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Is it worth to level 125 sandy retro

inland shoal
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Thanks, you too (Updated)

sharp socket
inland shoal
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Generally ships that you use in hard content (and have a good reason for using them in said content) are worth to 125

inner nova
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Is there a beginner guide here

still knot
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Which one should I buy here I'm kinda new

crisp estuary
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Island planning is not tied to any ship or important item acquisition, right?

onyx flame
onyx flame
trail dagger
onyx flame
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you run parallel in campaign

trail dagger
onyx flame
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yea cause the bosses in campaign arent alone

wind hazel
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for safety i'd just put rudder or fire extinguisher on every backline on your boss fleet. let plymouth offtank instead of unzen

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change the saiun to breguet/wyvern on amagi. or you can even run la9 tenrai spearfish on her

still knot
red sapphire
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What's a good UR aircraft to craft from gearlab using UR design plans?

wind hazel
odd rootBOT
red sapphire
onyx flame
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only thing ur aircraft design can make is wyverns NurnNom

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Boisium maybe another use when ad1 get added

red sapphire
rain bobcat
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be like me, accidentally exchanged for 4 UR plane plans instead of AA because sleepy as hell and blind

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a month worth of blanks goneGlowow

rain bobcat
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unless they do both at once

red sapphire
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Actually I'm going to ask what would be better to craft considering I didn't buy anything OpSi yet and I have this. Also can get 3 plans from blue loggers

rain bobcat
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NurnNom wyvern if not 2 already else just follow guide or get what u want

rain bobcat
red sapphire
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Wyvern then Noteshiro

rapid grail
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is 15-1 mob nodes at least lvl 121 or smth?

wind hazel
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higher lol

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126

rapid grail
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neat

peak fable
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What UR gera should I craft first in Gear Lab if I only have a Tenrai for main fleets?

onyx flame
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Wyvern NurnNom

peak fable
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oki, ty

rapid grail
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craft only 2 wyvern
make an effort to either craft or buy (from core data) 2-4 Breguets as well

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these TBs will be sufficient for all of mobbing and most of campaign

peak fable
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do I buy the blackburn firebrand from the shop or craft it?

whole crypt
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whichever is easier for you, because electronics and data core should both still be in relatively short supply

rapid grail
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Rest of future materials can then be used on good to great gun & plane gears

Firebrand... when I crafted my Wyverns, I used to buy my Firebrands from Core Data shop.

Nowadays my preferred prio would be to prio OpSi farming to craft both planes and leave some Core Data for some good gears there, especially if this were for newbie SKK. Preferably something that is not already on the Gear Lan

dark glade
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Hey guys, does my choice matter in the event's story ending? I haven't played for a long time and surprised when i see the story has multiple endings

ivory sigil
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does rigging gear in PR5 had anything worth taking for abit of BPs?

rapid grail
rapid shard
woven star
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And Plym by own should be coinable soon

meager path
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Do i can clear stage 4-4 with this fleet lvl? i cant clear boss many time because main fleet captain died to suicide boat

rapid grail
# ivory sigil does rigging gear in PR5 had anything worth taking for abit of BPs?

before the gear lab update, it was Plyguns. Spam a shit ton of them.

Now that it (and the other PR5 gear offerings like the Harbin gun (?) is there), everyone and their mother can go craft it. So uh, look into going to PR6 (Hinden gun), PR7 (La-9) or PR8 (Mecklenburg gun) instead for gear; besides you only realistically want one to four Plyguns for most content anyways

woven star
rapid grail
rapid shard
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Also a 3rd mainfleet ship would help a lot

meager path
woven star
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And Portland should be in left tank position

whole crypt
woven star
safe nexus
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is F6F Hellcat (HVAR mounted) good? and is it for lexington II

rapid shard
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Best fighter for light dmg and thats what lex2 is best at

safe nexus
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ok thx and the F4U from the event shop is for lex2 third gear slot?

hollow gust
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Tf what fighter is better than HVAR for light???

rapid shard
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That DB is only for timing really. Purple helldiver is better for dmg

whole crypt
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imaginary rainbow HVAR

meager path
whole crypt
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for the record hellcat HVAR is the best fighter for light

rapid shard
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I forgot Skyraider is DB not fighter lol

safe nexus
rapid shard
safe nexus
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i see thx

woven star
onyx flame
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just use purple bulins NurnNom you get enough of em

peak fable
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what do I get after I have wyvern and tenrai? lol

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i assume a bb gun, but idk which one

woven star
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Actually not sure but elite bulins can be a choice. But better use them on elite ships for now

onyx flame
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rather they use the purple then go backwards to farm map drop NurnNom

woven star
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Laffy still 1lb...

wind hazel
woven star
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I better spend first on them

onyx jacinth
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does it give the ship?

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what should i pick as a newbie?

wind hazel
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either graf, kuyb, impero or riche. none are that good honestly

woven star
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Imper or Rich as 4me

wind hazel
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honestly just pick the one you need their faction tech more

onyx flame
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ngl it prob be graf to get your hands on agir/fdg faster NurnNom

woven star
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Just my thoughts. Why Impero or Rich. Most all ships coming from easy sources if needed. IB tech points are not a problem too. But out of this what a chance to get these two ships?

atomic abyss
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impero and richy are the best ships there from a gameplay perspective too

ocean terrace
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IB tech let's you get some nice earlier research ships, like Roon, FdG, Agir then eventually Meck

inland shoal
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I mean from a collector's perspective you'd just hold on to it until you got all the ships but one anyway ShiSleep

rapid tusk
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What should I prioritize getting from event?

late flame
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or hold on to it until you actually want any of them ships and then forget about it

plain saffron
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event have another week?

soft raft
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yuh

wind hazel
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from gameplay perspective you can get independence, a far stronger ship than impero. riche... well, other than preload, nothing else to write home about

onyx jacinth
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should i take any meta ship from meta supply?

wind hazel
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that's why it is better to just pick for faction tech than looking for little to no fleet improvement

inland shoal
rapid tusk
wind hazel
onyx flame
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wait till the last day before you buy the ur vouchers cause you can get more from daily missions

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if you manage to clear all the daily mission from today till before event ends you only need to buy 130? more which is about 19.5kpoints total NurnNom

stray frost
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Question, why are my CA doing less damage than DD interms of guns

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My CAs are doing 6 damage per shot

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While my DDs are doing 34 damage avg

atomic abyss
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because that's the CA secondaries you're seeing

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not the CA guns themselves

stray frost
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So even if i put the same gun

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They do less damage than if i put it on a dd?

atomic abyss
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lets put it this way

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even the least gun oriented DDs

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have 80% efficiency on their main gun slot

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for CAs, their secondary slot is usually around 60% or less

stray frost
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Oh

atomic abyss
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the main dmg from a CA, should be from their main gun

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which fires far less frequently and mostly infront of them only

stray frost
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If i want dps

atomic abyss
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otherwise, it's their torps

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to put it bluntly

stray frost
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Should i have 1 dd for support 2 ca for damage?

atomic abyss
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gun based CAs are more DPH

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no

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irrelevant

wind hazel
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hull doesn't determine their role

stray frost
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Whats a good way to defeat the bomb ships

inland shoal
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I mean 6 dmg sounds more like builtin secondaries, those are just always trash

atomic abyss
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your backliners

wind hazel
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CA can be dps, can be buffer, can be tank
DD can be dps, can be buffer, can be tank

atomic abyss
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it's your BB's job is to handle bomb ships

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not your frontline ships

wind hazel
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NagaShock they can help

stray frost
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New question, should my backline be carriers or bbs or a mix of the two

onyx flame
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~~ram them witht he vanguard EssexWheeze ~~

atomic abyss
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1 BB 2 CVs by default

atomic abyss
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one of them should be unicorn

onyx flame
atomic abyss
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in certain cases, you will want different comps
but that's for later

stray frost
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Ty

peak fable
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why do ap bb guns perform so... badly? in campaign? I thought most of the ships in this game have medium armor, so shouldn't they outperform HE?

plain saffron
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which AP BB guns do you use, because there's good ones and bad ones

peak fable
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flandre gun rn

atomic abyss
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in early campaign, most enemies are light

peak fable
atomic abyss
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w12 is still about 40-40-20

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what IS true is that the MAIN threats are medium

wanton dawn
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are there any ways to boost the HVAR drop rates..?

atomic abyss
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most enemies are not medium at that point

plain saffron
atomic abyss
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there's a difference

peak fable
atomic abyss
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w13+

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that's when the main threats become heavy armour

onyx flame
atomic abyss
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despite how rare they are

wanton dawn
peak fable
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kk, guess I'll just use my ol reliable purple 406

versed elk
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how reliable is eldy slow for hakuhou/shinano/amagi2 fleet assuming they all launch within 0.1s of each other

hollow gust
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its sufficent

atomic abyss
versed elk
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aight thanks good enough for me problem

atomic abyss
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isnt it possible that your "guns" are performing worse

plain saffron
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hi brah

atomic abyss
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because you have them synced with carriers

versed elk
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hi nagami hows life

atomic abyss
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you can have your private conversations in DMs

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not here

peak fable
atomic abyss
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by all means then

peak fable
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only ship i use the 410 on is musashi, cause obvious reasons

atomic abyss
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tbh the only AP gun i would use in campaign is like, 457

white agate
atomic abyss
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or ya know, the other UR guns not the musashi gun

forest palm
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457 is the simplest one if you have access to it

azure coyote
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I just got 400 pulls in who should I take from the options

wind hazel
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got musashi? take musashi if you dont

azure coyote
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Alright but I won't be able to mlb right away cause I'm saving my bulins for another ur rerun

whole crypt
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that's fine, Musashi is still the best perm UR pick for now

azure coyote
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Alright

peak fable
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you dont get anything like fleet tech for retrofitting all ships in the game, right? it's optional I assume?

plain saffron
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well you do get a better ship, other than that nope

wind hazel
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collection %, no tech

peak fable
tulip tinsel
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number only

eternal pine
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is this decent?

wind hazel
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put penny in the middle

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limit break your ships. the fleet is fine

eternal pine
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oki

rapid tusk
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I've finished A1-B3 of the event but can't beat C1. Any tips?

wind hazel
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grind b3

atomic abyss
rapid tusk
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Noted, thanks

gilded carbon
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Reflections of the Oasis never got a rerun, did it? I havent found anything about one yet and it aired in summer 2023

soft raft
onyx flame
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shipgirls are jailed forever

gilded carbon
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do we have precedence of older raid-events that had their ships released afterwards?

soft raft
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Off the top of my head i can only name Independence, but they'll come back eventually one way or another

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After all they still count for collection % so it would be scummy of the devs to fuck over people trying to 100% collection

gilded carbon
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noted. Thank you

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im trying to complete my Sardagenia-collection because, well, i like their designs. And i was missing these ^^'

eternal pine
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does buying skin boxes put the boxes in your depot or like why can't I find it anywhere?

tulip tinsel
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it either auto opens and puts it in skin inventory or gives you the box -> you can open it and get the skin

hollow gust
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Only one that doesn't auto open are ones you can pick ShiSleep

onyx flame
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shouldnt be buying skinboxes btw esp if your a new player NurnNom

rapid grail
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that's based ngl

just need to farm more lol

summer patio
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What are augments and how do they work?

hollow gust
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for most ships they have defualt augments which are only minor boosts

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however for other they have unique augments that are gamechanging

hollow gust
silent zodiac
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Are any of the ships in the medal shop this month worth grabbing?

ivory sigil
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which one u had?

hollow gust
ivory sigil
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oh... Little Enty

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DD is ka__za__gumo
BB is Alabama

silent zodiac
ivory sigil
# silent zodiac Huh, did not know that

yeah, i didnt noticed until i saw the role.
But yeah if u are newbie that hasnt had a team for Ch12 farming yet, consider getting them as your main team lv120 build
Else if u already midgame player, you can use them as 2nd or 3rd team, unless if u already had tons of UR in hands then it is depend on your progress on Fleet-tech / faction-score

summer patio
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Is Belfast good enough to play most of the game with her? Is the game heavily meta-reliant, or is it "play whatever you want but some are better than others"

ivory sigil
onyx flame
summer patio
soft raft
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In simple terms, Belfast has been heavily powercrept, especially since she was a year 1 ship

soft raft
summer patio
whole crypt
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13 isn't that hard nowadays, the real challenge is 14+

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you will however spend a fair amount of time leveling and preparing in 13

summer patio
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Is it sanctioning to play a fully meta formation but swapping one ship with another, mediocre ship?

soft raft
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Do whatever you want man

ivory sigil
# summer patio Perhabs

the endgame tier list only important when you're in endgame tho
it is quite unnessary for earlygamer

But as a newplayer you really want a best team as a FOUNDATION so you can raise your favorite girl in future... so... maybe take a step back to prepare for other better option, then comeback to build her after got 1 good team for chapter12 (for coin/stuff farming to build her)

soft raft
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but usually when people ask for fleet advice in this channel, they're more focused on meta not waifu

onyx flame
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you can use belfast for endgame stuff its just the rest of your ships will have to pick up the slack NurnNom

peak fable
summer patio
peak fable
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top of VG meta is basically: do everything, don't die, don't let your team take dmg, make enemy take more dmg from main fleet, don't die

summer patio
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Wow, but what's more important? Vanguard or Main? Cuz like, Vanguard does most of the fighting, but main is called "main" so I'm probably missing a massive elephant

onyx flame
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main is your main dmg dealers, your vanguard first obj is to survive

peak fable
whole crypt
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top of vanguard meta depends on what you're doing

summer patio
peak fable
soft raft
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Do you really think a newbie would have either of them

whole crypt
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even if it's the same ships they can be useful for different reasons

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and there are ships that you use for some contents and not others

hollow gust
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in what world are z52 and elridge assesible to newbies or anyone rn

peak fable
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Main fleets are much more split into niches, while VG ships have way less variety, because the top ships just kinda do everything and make you borderline immortal at the same time

hollow gust
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Gouden Napoli Kurumi Sandy Trafalgar Brest Anchorage Laffey2 Guam Mogador Z52 Kazagumo Sirius Hindenburg need i continue?

whole crypt
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Shimanto is great for reducing burns in 14
Momo is great with sonaru for current showdown
Kurumi is great specifically for mobbing and survivability in late campaign
these aren't just thrown around interchangeably across "endgame"

soft raft
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"Main fleets are much more split into niches" when we've had UR BBs fighting a bloody war for top damage BB for the past 3 years

whole crypt
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also a lot of new players asking don't have access to many if not most of the ships

strange sphinx
ocean terrace
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they did say 'top of VG meta' meaning endgame

hollow gust
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Main Fleet Meta is the most stale and uninspired bullshit for years

hollow gust
strange sphinx
ocean terrace
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no but some people are mentioning new player accessability when they stated endgame vanguards

hollow gust
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They are claiming Vanguard meta is more stale then mainfleet which hasnt been true for years

ocean terrace
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that, I wouldn't know yeah

whole crypt
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explaining endgame meta to a new player is unnecessary because of accessibility and the time and resources it takes to get there
the key is getting a solid working set of ships that places you in the position to grind for lategame

ocean terrace
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agreed

peak fable
whole crypt
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also main fleet now if you want top it's basically the BisMeckLion and SoNaRu
you could maybe throw in Kear/LionYorkLex but there's no relevant light boss now

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campaign maybe sees more variation but it's still the same pool of Raff Musashi Alsace Soyuz

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the UR carriers are relatively interchangeable in the sense they offer little specifically thesmelves compared to the likes of Unicorn, Aquila, Volga and Cowpens

ocean terrace
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if Raff event isn't on the 2026 reruns list, has she already been rerun? or yet to

soft raft
ocean terrace
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oh she's pretty new then

soft raft
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oh right it's 2026 now lol

ocean terrace
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lmao

whole crypt
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we're already in 2026, and Feb this year hasn't happened

ocean terrace
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I wish Feb would come, I'd have Guam Laffey II and fingers crossed a UR BB in Feb

ivory sigil
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can i ask huski bro, is hardmode 11-4 hard? like which Hard chapter are you often farm?

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nowadays

soft raft
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And here's the full list while we're at it

hollow gust
ocean terrace
whole crypt
ocean terrace
whole crypt
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let's say you "accidentally take Z52 instead of any of" is a case of what content this is and what vanguard did you remove and what did that vanguard offer

ivory sigil
whole crypt
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Z52 is fairly straightforward, but was the ship you took out offering something Z52 can't?

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just give gridley like 2 levels or some shit

wind hazel
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just level up gridley or william a bit, enhance them

peak fable
ocean terrace
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would Gridley even survive there...

whole crypt
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if I had to choose between a mistached VG and a mistached main fleet I'm building my fleet wrong

wind hazel
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dont need to, just use fleet 2 and stomp it

whole crypt
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there is no case where it matters and you'd say to yourself "hey I screwed up with this part of the fleet but the other's fine so it's okay"

peak fable
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that's basically the entire point

whole crypt
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we say main fleet deals more damage where it's relevant

peak fable
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yes and killing quicker reduces load on VG

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I know these 2 are intertwined, VGs can help main and main can help VGs, but all I tried to say is that the main fleet is more impactful and that's why the VG just naturally matters less and you will ultimately feel having "one bad VG unit" less than "one bad main fleet unit".

hollow gust
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What even is your argument at this point Wotspite , first it's vanguard meta is stale and now it's mainline is more important

wind hazel
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BuckyStare shit what am i missing, what did i miss

strange sphinx
little heart
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Hey, how do I get pass this absolute cancer of a map. I cant even step near the red tiles. I didnt even go into the red tiles and it resets

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Its driving me insane, how tf am I suppose to move then.

wind hazel
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walk a bit and TB will solve it for you

peak fable
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that's the entire point of an argument, if I had to give up one slot to a bad or mediocre ship, I'd happily give up a VG slot over a mainfleet slot

whole crypt
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you could use Belfast and North Carolina because of voice reasons and it wouldn't matter for about 85% of the game ShiSleep

little heart
whole crypt
strange sphinx
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unless he turned off the tb guidance?

whole crypt
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doesn't matter

peak fable
whole crypt
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TB guidance is a separate thing, TB will still come to laugh at you help you skip the puzzle if you take too many steps without solving

ivory sigil
little heart
little heart
whole crypt
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I mean if you really want to there should be a guide out there somewhere but we usually just tell people to wait for TB to do it at that point

peak fable
ocean terrace
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I can only coin/develop 1 PR and 1 DR ship at a time correct?

whole crypt
wind hazel
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damn i forgot how ass opsi is with the puzzles for beginners

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like whats the point lmao, they should revamp opsi

soft raft
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tf is that thumbnail art ๐Ÿ’€

peak fable
soft raft
plain saffron
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wtf

ocean terrace
peak fable
whole crypt
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you can coin more than one ship but you only get 2 free and up to 13 more discounted prints for each rarity each day

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and the discount drops very steeply after the first 10

peak fable
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I personally like the 5 DR prints and 7 PR prints combo per day

ocean terrace
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that's annoying, research exp mission takes so long and I could be unlocking so many other ships rn EssexAAAAAAAAA

peak fable
whole crypt
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XP mission can be finished in like 2 days when you're later in the game

ocean terrace
peak fable
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I have like 10 research ships unlocked and I have fully dev'd only 2 of them.

whole crypt
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yeh take your time, will get better as you're more caught up

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keep in mind we get like 5 new ships a year so as long as you finish more than 5 a year you're going faster than the game

ocean terrace
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at least I got 2 HVARs Glowow, don't need to farm event anymore

peak fable
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no rush, believe me, the prints will be your final boss, not the research exp, that one is such a small obstacle on you getting a useful ship

ocean terrace
whole crypt
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if you focus correctly, a new series only takes less than half a year to finish

sick kettle
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which sr do i invite from the card except for kuybyshev? im able to develop all pr ship so tech pts dont matter

whole crypt
ocean terrace
whole crypt
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back to SP I guess sigh

peak fable
undone plover
ocean terrace
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I've done uh Roon, Anchorage just needs a bit more exp, gonna do FdG right after her since I have the tech now

whole crypt
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watch me end up with excess HVAR prints

whole crypt
ocean terrace
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I got Tirpitz from somewhere recently (don't remember where) so she helped a ton
probably from a shop

onyx flame
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medal shop NurnNom

whole crypt
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does this mean I have to farm another 20 prints just so I end with a round number

onyx flame
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speaking of hvar 130k points only 60 prints EssexAAAAAAAAA

ocean terrace
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already had Bismarck from somewhere too so yeah those 2 carried a ton (plus I had mlb Prinz Eugen from when I first got the game)

undone plover
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my perfect 50 leftover hvar prints were ruined now I have 8 extra
from SP alone and 1x B3/day 1x D3 total RaoraHands

ivory sigil
ocean terrace
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also I thought Warspite was good 4 years ago okay, don't blame me

onyx flame
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she was NurnNom still is kinda but cost to performance is Ehhssex

sick kettle
ivory sigil
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inb4 hitting confirm

ocean terrace
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if you need the HMS tech, not a bad option

whole crypt
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Warspite basically only had a short stint in PvP after retrofit

ocean terrace
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I'm probably gonna grab PoW for HMS tech when I work on Plymouth

undone plover
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she is also +2 acc iirc, warspite i mean

rapid tusk
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Are there any guides for the meowficers or whatever they are

ivory sigil
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Mori told i should focus on UR BB (NOT WARSPRITE)

but yeah i was wonder about tech too

undone plover
fallen jay
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Ok so Iโ€™m still in SO and have over 2000 action points. Whatโ€™s the best way I can use them to build up the tickets for reset?

onyx flame
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or if you dont mind it taking longer c3

peak fable
peak fable
fallen jay
undone plover
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8 hour post maint no reset Nautiwtf
how did u manage this

whole crypt
onyx flame
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if you havent left/got forced out of opsi it doesnt reset

undone plover
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c5 fastest
c3 best for AP but i would just do C5 at this point

whole crypt
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you can stay in OS for as long as you don't restart or leave the mode

fallen jay
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Here Iโ€™ll post pic

peak fable
undone plover
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u also got a bonus 6/7 missions doing this EntyLul

fallen jay
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Itโ€™s not a hack

ocean terrace
fallen jay
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Not like I cheated any of the stuff I have in

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I bought it all in shops of SO but didnโ€™t use it through the month

undone plover
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yeah it is a known trick dw
i used to do it for the bonus missions but i cba now laffeysleep

ocean terrace
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can I buy another after clearing my current file mission? the ones that give UR plans

whole crypt
sick kettle
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should i buy agir gun BPs or should i just wait until guam gun rerun?

whole crypt
onyx flame
ocean terrace
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last mission of each? or last logger specifically

whole crypt
#

assuming you don't have short term plans to use more than 1 CB I'd just wait for guam gun

undone plover
tulip tinsel
undone plover
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wait for guam
no reason to have more than 1 CB gun tbf

whole crypt
undone plover
#

having 1 HE gun i guess is ok too but for AP 1 is only rly needed

gritty spear
#

Is it worth spending these vouchers? It costs a lot, and I don't quite understand how it works in practice. I've already had my first operation reset. I still have to buy a lot of these loggers for, apparently, story notes. I don't know if it's worth taking it either.

whole crypt
ocean terrace
onyx flame
undone plover
whole crypt
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the loggers don't go anywhere but the expendable items refresh each month

undone plover
ocean terrace
#

yeah fair enough, I'll do that thanks

whole crypt
#

the only reason to speed run classified loggers is to speed run rainbow designs

onyx flame
#

speed run that wyvern NurnNom

ocean terrace
#

by the way what sort of UR plan is dropped from these file missions? is it the blank or a random one

undone plover
#

blank

ocean terrace
whole crypt
#

the problem if you try to speed run wyvern is you'll likely just end up stuck without enough electronics anyway

undone plover
ocean terrace
#

if I buy the blackburn firebrand I could make one...

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but I have been saving for tables

stray crane
#

after wyvern what next ?

ivory sigil
undone plover
ocean terrace
#

tbf I only need like 5 more electronics anyway, to craft from fulmar

undone plover
#

btw at some point u might also want to look into this thing for opsi
#gameplay-help message

but now now
do it like 6 months into the game
it wastes some AP

whole crypt
#

last zone is higher level but whatever

whole crypt
whole crypt
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files for exploration stars

ivory sigil
undone plover
#

it is also for the stars
and some stars give abyssal coords and cubes EssexRun

whole crypt
#

it is but a bunch of them are tied to one of the stars for that zone

ivory sigil
#

Hmmmmmmmm Cubeyummy

whole crypt
#

yes but the star itself is not tied specifically to the files, it's based on number of stars cleared for the zone

ocean terrace
#

how many cubes do I want before doing cube research again?

whole crypt
#

and most of the 4 and 5 star rewards are junk

ivory sigil
whole crypt
undone plover
ocean terrace
#

hmmm okay okay

undone plover
#

that is for full cubing
ocassional rainbow/gold cube research is fine even at 200/300/400 depending how much of a risktaker u are

ocean terrace
#

I have yet to see any sort of rainbow research...

undone plover
#

i think i got my first 4 months into the game
it doesnt happen that often

whole crypt
#

to be fair you start doing them and you don't notice your stock is down then you're kind of cooked, safer to just not start before you have a fairly safe line

ivory sigil
ocean terrace
#

also what was the supposed rate I should be getting of Meck prints per day/week?

whole crypt
#

0.5hr face costs cubes but it's the second best research for gear

undone plover
#

honestly there isnt any data
let me check my log for pr5

ivory sigil
whole crypt
#

0.5hr soul forming on the other hand is only if you're rushing ships or trying to use as a refresh

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honestly 0.5hr face if only for ship prints saves you maybe a day or two on research overall, personally I recommend taking it because gear prints, but only if your resources permit

ivory sigil
#

Blessex i not gonna 4 years like huski bro

undone plover
#

this was my average BP/day when focusing full PR/DR face research minus catchup
i sadly dont have only ply/brest data

whole crypt
#

at least a month, I'm not sure of the exact window

undone plover
#

last few entries is where some ships where done
so i expect around 15/day early and later 10/day when only DR left should be the expected values

ivory sigil
#

Naruhodo GlowNaruhodo

ocean terrace
#

I remember being told my Meck prints were low for how long I've been focusing her

whole crypt
#

you can fit 9 2.5 hour researches a day, they range from 1-3 prints
10+ prints a day is perfectly notmal

undone plover
# ocean terrace that's a lot.

it is not DR only remember
PR+DR and I did prio faces over Q and G
and also i was ~5 months into the game at that point so better coin income and research uptime

whole crypt
#

it can be only DR if it's after you clear out PR pool

undone plover
ivory sigil
ocean terrace
ebon verge
#

Can someone give me some thoughts on pr8 gears

sage bone
#

Has anyone ever a guild operation start by itself? (I'm the master in my guild and still trying to figure it out)

whole crypt
#

you can lie with maff though

undone plover
#

i logged less data for PR/DR6 but i was still on full D focus and this was the rates
so on full focus u can have ~13-15 early to ~10 in the end

onyx flame
undone plover
#

my preference is DR+Q focus personally so i agree with that advice

ebon verge
ocean terrace
#

my face priority goes something like Meck > Gouden > Plymouth > rest
with PR I just grab whoever really
but overall research prio has been Meck face 2.5 or 5hr, Gouden face 2.5 or 5hr, any Q and then PR ones, with shortest time being prio

onyx flame
#

additionally you want like a few copies of the rainbow gear nowadays NurnNom

undone plover
#

i would take G4h over any PR face tho (the gold faces)

onyx flame
undone plover
#

G research can give DR prints and gear prints
and G4h is overall very good

ocean terrace
whole crypt
#

the torps are a new fast launching torp
stig should have a vid on it too dig lower

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nevermind someone else already linked it

ivory sigil
# ocean terrace though I was told to do Q whenever I can since I'm new

Blessex well i assume u will get Mecklenberg in like next 3 months

Assume u use 2 month to prepare the Research, but 1 scenario is u fully on Gear research, 1 other u is fully on BPs research

So yeah, 2 months, would u choose to "Having a meck gun" or "having a 700bps meck" then wait 1 month to get her

stray crane
#

do i aim for sec wyvern ?

ocean terrace
undone plover
ocean terrace
#

could someone let me know the protocore conversion per PR and DR print

undone plover
#

ofc this will all take a lot of time

ocean terrace
#

oh lmao, ty

onyx flame
#

en reading strikes again

ivory sigil
#

BulinStare can i request a darkmode for the pic?

onyx flame
#

also gotta factor in the longer it takes the more cruise pass woulda gone by increase your protocore count NurnNom

ocean terrace
#

lemme just calculate how many protocores I'll get from conversion currently

undone plover
sick kettle
onyx flame
onyx flame
undone plover
whole crypt
ivory sigil
#

And a lion? NurnNom

tulip tinsel
#

lion should rerun in 2027, like near summer

onyx flame
#

im at month 3 and a bit for pr8 and i gotten 1.92 meck gun and a dev 30 meck so its not that bad tbh NurnNom

undone plover
#

that is actually quite good

ocean terrace
undone plover
#

all of it tbh
even counting luxury and the potential La9 u only need 3 DR catchups converted

whole crypt
#

converting DR prints for gear is not particularly realistic or practical

sage bone
undone plover
#

i would still take 1 extra drake gun over getting drake dev30 15 days earlier tbh

onyx flame
#

i mean you could check the guild log it definitly say who

ocean terrace
#

well I was definitely planning to convert FdG prints at the least, maybe I should do Plymouth too then

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since my DR ship route I planned was FdG then Ply

undone plover
#

why not just keep those 2 guns for later when u finish prio and can convert drake and azuma essexTinFoil

undone plover
#

getting ply and fdg 15 days later is fine tho tbh
as long as it wont hurt your progress

whole crypt
#

you can't convert prints before dev30
if you don't use the 150 prints then you're taking (150/(your daily discount prints)) days longer to finish the ship before you can convert the prints

undone plover
ocean terrace
#

which ship's guns are those

onyx flame
#

drake and hindy

whole crypt
#

drake and hindenburg

undone plover
#

drake gun in pr3 and hinden gun in pr6

ocean terrace
#

are they both CA guns

whole crypt
#

yes

ocean terrace
#

I'd be getting Guam gun soon right

whole crypt
#

yes

ocean terrace
#

do I really need those guns?

undone plover
#

yeah but guam is CB
not rly comparable
these guns are mainly for unzen/hindenburg

whole crypt
#

if you use CAs yes

onyx flame
#

guam is a cb gun, drake and hindy are for ca

ocean terrace
whole crypt
#

they're incredibly low priority so yeh

undone plover
onyx flame
#

trusty eugen gun shoved on all of my CAs EssexWheeze

forest palm
#

Unzen's HE gun is better for CBs though, and it's the only case where this is true ShiWoke

whole crypt
#

unless your name is Agir

dawn scarab
#

Is there a current guide on cats?

undone plover
odd rootBOT
#
Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

dawn scarab
#

thanks

whole crypt
#

sonaru is so stable I dropped +13 catapults for beacons and all it's doing is killing 2s faster EssexWheeze

ocean terrace
#

you need what, 4125 + 7125 + 4125 for everything but Luxury
which is 15375 protocores
not considering handbook missions but those take a while

undone plover
#

Because there is also 4 pr catchup EssexRun

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Pr 1-2-3 and 5

ocean terrace
#

so it's including all those PR ships? being converted?

undone plover
#

Yes u should convert pr1-2-3 and 5
The ships are not worth getting them early
It is also much cheaper and easier than DR
Only use anchorage catchup on her

ebon verge
#

Why on slaimuda they recommend ca guns on gouden leeuw but from what i read in game it's more beneficial to put cb gun on her? NagaThonk

ocean terrace
#

even ancho I'm not gonna convert since Laffey II and Guam are good enough tanks for now (I think)

soft raft
forest palm
#

that's wrong

onyx flame
forest palm
#

her personal gun is a CB gun

soft raft
#

Oh right
always keep thinking that it's cateogrized as CA

ocean terrace
undone plover
forest palm
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I forget if her gun outpaces most all SSR CA guns, but it doesn't outpace UR CA guns afaik ShiWoke

whole crypt
#

I wouldn't say CA guns are just better, GL gun works fine on GL and is much cheaper than giving her a rainbow CA gun

undone plover
#

The order is up to you

whole crypt
forest palm
#

ya being in the market for UR CA guns basically means you have fuck all left for gearing priority EssexWheeze

ocean terrace
ebon verge
#

So tldr rainbow ca > gouden gun > gold ca

whole crypt
#

caveat
+13 rainbow CA > +13 GL > +10 rainbow CA

forest palm
#

don't know why you'd put that much investment into, but sure

onyx flame
#

just slap on her gun and call it a day

undone plover
#

Oh u can dw
U should dev 1 ship per season anyway
This guide is more of a goal
Not follow it exactly
It just gives you the least painful way to get the minimum required gear imo

If u choose to take it slower/faster and convert more/less catchup for more protocore that is perfectly fine

whole crypt
#

I can get behind putting 120 plates in for GL

wind hazel
#

terrible investment

forest palm
#

if you have your Main Fleet Main Gun priorities settle, I guess NurnNom

whole crypt
#

I mean of course they're after BB guns still

ocean terrace
whole crypt
#

Anchorage yes

wind hazel
#

use +13 GL where, shitting light mobs at w12? lol

forest palm
whole crypt
#

wherever you use GL really

undone plover
#

Because of anchorage mainly yes
Most newbies lack good tanks and should get her asap to make opsi less painful

wind hazel
#

where we use GL, hind gun is the choice lol

whole crypt
#

it also has the advantage of being a bracketing gun so it works on the dogshit rammers in 14

forest palm
#

surely there's better options than that though...

ebon verge
whole crypt
#

it kind of boils down to what you're using GL for

true kraken
#

how long I have to wait

wind hazel
#

8 months

forest palm
#

and like 14 days

wind hazel
#

maybe 9 NagaShock

true kraken
#

L for dev

onyx flame
true kraken
#

dont tell me it is also 8months

#

F

whole crypt
#

it likely is, but in shop and not free from event

#

actually now that you mention it I should check where my rainbow CA guns are EssexWheeze

ocean terrace
wind hazel
#

damn bro cant retrofit anything ๐Ÿ˜ญ

red sapphire
#

Hi, I'm trying to improve my BB fleet. What can I use from here along Lion and Vanguard? I was using Musashi until now

soft raft
#

BisZwei

forest palm
#

when did they make Yuudachi's retro item perm relative to when it reran SpeeThink

ebon verge
whole crypt
#

it is if you're using her

wind hazel
whole crypt
#

I probably should reorganize my CA guns my 2 +13 hindenburg guns are on ships that aren't seeing active duty EssexWheeze

undone plover
ocean terrace
red sapphire
undone plover
#

Then yes u can take your time with the catchups
Get the ships u need then when u have downtime research stuff for catchup > protocore

wind hazel
#

AkashiHide uh, i guess depends on the boss?

ocean terrace
undone plover
undone plover
forest palm
#

AFCT also exists

proper violet
#

That 5k oil thing in Opsi what is that?

#

It says free movement ts, and rewards?

undone plover
#

Removes fog in explorable zones and lets u strategic search them

#

The rewards are same as clear reward u just get them faster

proper violet
#

Aweeee, there is still actionpoints there?

undone plover
#

U dont get more rewards by buying it
It is just qol

proper violet
#

Ye ok, not wurf for now as poor on oil then

undone plover
#

I only bought it once

#

It is just for ppl who dont want to manual clear those zones

forest palm
#

I've always bought the 5k Oil logger, the convinence is just so nice ShiWoke

#

it does turn all zone bonus rewards into a care package fifiNom

civic ridge
# undone plover It is just for ppl who dont want to manual clear those zones

not quite. You still have to run 50 zones to unlock all the shops..and with the purple tube things that raise stats ..they make it easier (for newer players)..so, it does have a really good use..not just the healing and extra AP packs. (at 150 of the op siren stats, forget the names..you've got the highest bonus from them for 90 percent of the maps or so). So..it's quite worth it if you have the oil, and a "necessary evil"

#

Tubes have to be used from storage tho to count

viscid swift
#

I mean not really

#

just gotta be strategic in how you go about clearing the nodes

#

not to mention you can buy 60 adapts for each stat from the exchange shop every month

forest palm
#

150 would imply the tuning samples and the ones the oil logger give

civic ridge
#

like i said - for newer players that aren't beyond a certain power threshold..it can be quite helpful

viscid swift
#

you're also free to just heal in port as many times as you like

civic ridge
#

but if you have enough oomph to steamroll everything than it really doesn't matter if you do or don't.

viscid swift
#

like, just target c1 nodes first, then c2, then c3 etc

#

you don't have to go straight for C5s and C6s first

forest palm
#

it overall does break down the tedium, cause you do have to manually clear these zones, and it does depend on how you choose to clear them RichyThink

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oil logger is just there for convenience overall and that's kind of it, it's not something a new player should normally afford because oil should be going towards campaign clear fifiSip

eternal grove
#

does one need lvl 30 cats for max loot from meowofficer search in opsi?

forest palm
#

the game only mentions that High Rarity, and High Level affect the loot, nothing more specific

wary skiff
#

does anyone have the ship tierlist on hand? the google doc

wary skiff
#

ty

wooden osprey
#

do we have an ideal opsi mob fleet?

tulip tinsel
#

unicorn + 5

stark quiver
#

Unicorn + 5 trash is not ideal

wooden osprey
#

i was thinking maybe
unicorn/lexi 2/lion and whatever vanguard?

red sapphire
#

Hi, on what circumstances UR mags are better than SR quad mags?

weary edge
#

how good is the dive bomber from this event?

fair lance
#

only used for timing reasons for single target bossing iirc.

stone sluice
#

I use that French cvl that launches an air-strike around 10 seconds after the fight started

red sapphire
rotund narwhal
#

is willy dih actually usable

ivory pawn
#

Very.

#

Good in USS fleet. Otherwise worse than other URs but still decent.

rotund narwhal
ivory pawn
#

Backline is what matters. Frontline can be whatever.

rotund narwhal
vernal thunder
#

any tips for getting lucky?

stark quiver
#

luck harder

tulip tinsel
#

level up your gambling skill

white agate
#

get more resources to gamble

rotund narwhal
strange sphinx
#

if need more, farm or ๐Ÿ’ณ

twilit wren
#

is F4U(VBF-94 Squadron) good?

elfin hollow
#

In Operation Siren, how tf u get back to the exchange shop that opens when it resets? I needed to get out since didnt have enough oil for that one item that costs 5K... so I grabbed some, went back in... have no idea where to open that shop x _ x

ocean terrace
#

bottom left

elfin hollow
#

of?

ocean terrace
#

overview, when you see the map/nodes

elfin hollow
undone plover
twilit wren
wind shore
#

When do you start seeing UR gear drops or is that something that has to be built in gear lab?

undone plover
#

There are several ways to get UR gear
Mainly gear lab and research

Gear lab u have to craft them with opsi materials
Research is slow
U get random drops of blueprints
50 prints = 1 gear

There are some other sources like event shop and shops like coredata shop and protocore shop

wind shore
#

Ok thanks. I'll look those up. I had seen the ones in the gear lab and knew those would be a slow build.

#

Been playing a few months so still figuring it out

forest palm
#

not all UR gear is worth while btw, so do a little researchfifiNom

wind shore
#

Thanks Taz I will. I've been looking up info on gear recently to try to improve fleet. That was why I was curious about UR gear.

undone plover
#

/equip Make sure u check the new QGG

odd rootBOT
undone plover
#

Second link AkashiHide

peak fable
#

is there an alternative to BisZwei for the black hole thing she does among BBs?

hollow gust
#

No

proper violet
#

NJ vs warspite retro? Resources aside

forest palm
#

Warspite retro is such a massive resource dump...

proper violet
forest palm
#

they're basically on par

proper violet
#

Yeah ok

static harbor
#

Anyone gotna IntrepKai/York2/Lex2 setup? Intrepid is firing way faster then the others

#

And I got the Skyraiders and light killer planes

sweet delta
#

Who is intrep Kai and why not just use kearsarge or lion

static harbor
stark quiver
#

intrepid got a UR retro god

red sapphire
#

Hi, why does Zwei desync to fire last after first sync point? I see the main gun reload is faster than Lion, may be I missed something?

stray crane
#

this is crazy, I ran out of ap didnt even get to clear the map yet

sweet delta
stark quiver
stray crane
#

no

red sapphire
#

How can I check the capacity thing?

static harbor
#

Maybe I slow Intrepid down?

sweet delta
red sapphire
sweet delta
#

@red sapphire

ivory pawn
red sapphire
static harbor
stray crane
#

these reset every month ?

white agate
peak fable
#

wtf. how rare is this one, I have legit never seen it?

wind shore
ivory pawn
white agate
white agate
rapid shard
#

Where can i find that AA pictuee showing all the ranges?

white agate
rapid shard
peak fable
#

unless you mean "all ranges" for that you go to the wiki

rapid shard
#

Thats the exact diagram I was looking for

white agate
#

was there a map with a good cap to farm affinity in 1:1?

stark quiver
#

affinity gain is a set value per battle
so just find the one that uses the least oil

stark quiver
white agate
#

tbh mvp doubles itAkagiLUL

rapid yoke
#

How does this work?

rose stump
#

Be honest how long does it take for me to unlock a meta character

white agate
#

like 1-2 weeks

rose stump
#

And thatโ€™s playing non-stop? Okay

white agate
#

actually should be like 7k points per week i think?

#

and you need like only 1 copy

rose stump
ivory pawn
# rapid yoke How does this work?

Once you have enough tech points, you can start work on the tasks on the right that unlock once a day. Once done with all the tasks, you can obtain the ship.
To MLB the ship, youโ€™ll need a lot of blueprints. Older ships you can just buy the prints with coins, but newer ones like Nakhi you have to get them from the Research Academy.

ivory pawn
white agate
ivory pawn
#

Maxing a waifu is never useless.

rose stump
#

thats my reason XD, no meta reason just for the love of the character XD

white agate
wary saffron
#

Guys serious question what should I do to a musashi that I rolled after I already max limit broken her before

#

Like I already max limit broken musashi with UR bulins but now I have another musashi

weary gust
#

retire it.

hollow gust
#

Guam and Laffey are like in a week

versed elk
sweet delta
barren quarry
#

guys how do I get Prototype Cores

wary saffron
wary saffron
hollow gust
#

No wonder why you complain about cubes so muchJavSigh

wind island
#

I'm pretty new, should I use my UR bulins on WDP or wait for Laffey? I have no leveled DDs that aren't Z23

hollow gust
wind island
#

damn. and she was bad as hell too.

barren quarry
#

i c

tulip tinsel
hollow gust
#

The one they want is obtained by fodder pack exp and pr prints

wind island
#

sorry like i said, i am in fact new and confused the two similar sounding resources used in the same place.

#

Another question about MLB for UR ships. I have Shinano who's one limit break away from being maxed out, and I haven't claimed the UR ship from the commander handbook yet, should I prioritize that over Laffey II then?

#

idk how much difference the final limit break makes, she's already able to reach max level right?

red sapphire
red sapphire
viscid swift
wind island
#

my only UR is shinano lmao

wind island
viscid swift
#

permanant URs

red sapphire
silver pike
#

How can i speedrun the xp needed for the shipyard ships

red sapphire
hollow gust
silver pike
#

I'm struggling getting napoli and nakhimov

viscid swift
silver pike
#

Yea, i can do 13-1 also

viscid swift
#

then just farm 12-1 or 12-4 with 3 applicable main fleets/vanguards, preferably ones that need levels

silver pike
#

And we'll have guam rerun in january?

viscid swift
#

yes

wind island
# viscid swift permanant URs

ah so basically your point is i shouldn't use a bulin on shinano since eventually i'll probably get a dupe from construction,
and that i should save the bulins for laffey 2/wdp or some other limited UR?

silver pike
#

this game is kinda harsh with me, i took 1 year break and the last 2 ur events i got them at pity and now i'm at lexington at 194 pools and i have only 2 cubes

silver pike
wind island
viscid swift
wind island
#

so i've been told, but it does seem like UR event banners are pretty common, so idk if i'll ever even get the opportunity to pull on a permanent banner lol

red sapphire
hollow gust
#

You technically don't need to pull Guam event , the two best ships in the event are free anyway

wind island
red sapphire
wind island
#

that makes sense, i restarted halfway through the event so i've been spending everything on lexington II anyway

silver pike
#

@viscid swift what is your advice for a decent comp for northen parliment/ sardegna empire for main

viscid swift
# wind island that makes sense, i restarted halfway through the event so i've been spending ev...
viscid swift
silver pike
#

And for main something like perseus mushashi new jersey

viscid swift
#

this was my 12-1 farm fleet just a few days ago

stark quiver
#

oh you gave them AA

silver pike
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ok that's dirt cheap only decent gear on cleveland meta, i think i'm overthinking it too much :))

viscid swift
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I was running cross fleets but yeah

stark quiver
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dont forget he has like balls crazy amounts of crossfleet

viscid swift
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if you bother to put together something half decent and gear them well it's not that difficult

viscid swift
viscid swift
hollow gust
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what was the gem eff spreadsheet

rapid shard
clear harbor
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Oh, this is helpful.

boreal ginkgo
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Guys who should I get with wish-fulfilling card

silent zodiac
boreal ginkgo
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I mean like the best one for me to continue on the story

stark quiver
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none

boreal ginkgo
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Crazy๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ™

whole crypt
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ironically there are older invites with more useful selections but this lineup's just not doing much

atomic abyss
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Choose the one that might get you to a research ship you want

whole crypt
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it's a case of some ships may be better or harder to get regularly, but none of them will actually be useful to a newer player, or worth the resources to raise over an otherwise easy to obtain ship

rigid onyx
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no maint tonight right

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wait its thursday already

whole crypt
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oh right we're not expecting new ships till end of Jan are we...

viscid swift
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correct

whole crypt
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and feb should be fairly light-weight with CNY banner? (until new UR)

viscid swift
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pretty much

rain bobcat
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typical 1 SSR banner + 2 elites or smth

lyric stump
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Do we have a stable 14-4h hardmode fleet? Clearing mode boss only. And opsi gear if ships will be used in opsi. Tysm

lyric stump
whole crypt
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whenever that shop update is around there

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if it's tagged to CNY then more likely early to mid Feb

whole crypt
lyric stump
whole crypt
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don't expect them to be 100% stable on lethal, you'll still be subject to RNG on the mob nodes you get and how good/bad you fare against the BBs

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it was never end of Dec?

lyric stump
wind hazel
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double BB should be most stable then

whole crypt
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that's just less RNG without needing to do 0 ammo fights, you're still subject to being vaporized by bad BB shots

lyric stump
rigid onyx
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safe mode should provide stability

lyric stump
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Its unstable 1/10 fail rate

rigid onyx
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do you have it on safe already

wind hazel
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try lion musashi and another CV

lyric stump
lyric stump
rigid onyx
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why volga

lyric stump
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He or ap gun? On sushi. And who flag

whole crypt
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Aquila heals main fleet better if you need a main fleet heal, or now Cowpens

lyric stump
wind hazel
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think i used 457 on lion and daisen on musashi, but you can experiment other variation

whole crypt
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honestly I'd say Lion's only real claim to 14 mobbing is cheesing sub burns, if you're not doing 0 ammo and have decent ASW other UR BBs are better

lyric stump
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U think in few days i get cowpens up will fix it?

viscid swift
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I can't be bothered to set up something for 14-4 at this point, I'd just default to 14-2 or 14-3, they drop more useful META mats anyway

wind hazel
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what were your vanguard?

rigid onyx
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maybe because cowpens is a lot better than volga but im not the biggest offhealer in boss fan

lyric stump
whole crypt
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oh boss well good luck with BBs

wind hazel
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go more aggressive vanguard

whole crypt
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you basically just have to kill very fast or manually clear BB shelling

lyric stump
whole crypt
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or be very lucky

rigid onyx
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vanguard can die because you dont kill stuff fast

lyric stump
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I watch them ate 3 mogami torp and half health

viscid swift
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I feel like the only way to get a consistent fleet is to go defensive auxes in the main fleet

whole crypt
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a more consistent fleet, which is still not very consistent

viscid swift
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you're not going to be able to consistently dispatch the BBs in time

whole crypt
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14-4 boss just likes to melt your main fleet if you're not looking

viscid swift
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yeah, like I said I'm not bothering with 14-4

lyric stump
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Cause 14-3 i can pretty stable do it

viscid swift
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14-2 and 14-3 are easier and drop better meta mats anyway

whole crypt
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if you want NO do it on normal, you don't farm on hard

viscid swift
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of all the times to try and save bullins with dupes late campaign drop ships is not one of them

whole crypt
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yeh

wind hazel
lyric stump
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I dont need to like farm for her. I just wanna get lucky drops to save bullin

whole crypt
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New Orleans also nothing spectacular to bother raising unless you're just running out of ships anyway

lyric stump
rigid onyx
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start doing pvp everyday if you havent ig

rain bobcat
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just farm 14-4 like me? like idk why you want to do 14-4H

lyric stump
wind hazel
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maybe shimanto will be better? idk

lyric stump
wind hazel
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trading dmg with deburn, not sure which will be better

lyric stump
whole crypt
viscid swift
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you won't farm 14-4H every day becasuse as you said yourself you want a dead consistent fleet which currently doesn't exist

rain bobcat
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either do it in safe or just do 14-4 normal daily idk

rigid onyx
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locking gear on 6 ships for 14-4h is more effort than doing 15 attacks in 10 minutes total

whole crypt
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and if you want to farm dupes to replace bulins do it on normal

static dome
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new UR g7e always better than bidder even if UR one can't go for 2 reload right? MutsukiHyperStare

lyric stump
rigid onyx
static dome
whole crypt
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like getting tech is one thing, getting tech from NO first is another if you have other ships to raise anyway

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if you're using non-maxed wolfpack I'd honestly just stay with bidders until you max the wolfpack or move to fishpack

lyric stump
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Whats 4 ship realy worth to oath. Like still be useful even 2 years later

wind hazel
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unicorn

lyric stump
rigid onyx
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if you're limited on rings just oath your favorites

wind hazel
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helena HelenaWink

viscid swift
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we have no idea what the meta will be in 2 years

rain bobcat
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if ur being cheap then just oath whoever you like lol

viscid swift
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or even if the game will be around in 2 years

lyric stump
wind hazel
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eos foreshadow

rigid onyx
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then save your oath for future favorites

stark quiver
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ranger remains the best backline ship in game

lyric stump
viscid swift
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I hate RNG and so should you

rigid onyx
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there's probably one guy out there who just has a ranger who's never missed a proc

wind hazel
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that's me

lyric stump
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So is new g7e worth? At least 2 for i404?

whole crypt
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dependsโ„ข

lyric stump
rigid onyx
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subs are kinda of not worth in general but if you're balling out on rainbow torp prints and torp plates

whole crypt
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i404 can get maybe up to 3 reloads with G7eK but that needs her in flag which takes away from Flasher

lyric stump
rigid onyx
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you can just save the mats until you actually use subs for w16 or eos or next mechanic something

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maybe they make a good surface rainbow torp in summer gear lab update

whole crypt
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according to stig 95K is still better for bosses
according to # G7eK is better against light/med
G7eK is probably better for mobbing

lyric stump
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O ok

viscid swift
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according to everyone though, end game sub content not found

whole crypt
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honestly the best reason to craft G7eK is if you have +13 G7es since you can reinvest the gold plates

rigid onyx
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reinvest gold plates into what torps

whole crypt
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into the G7eK but only manage +11 NepSmug

lyric stump
wind hazel
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ok jeff bezos

rigid onyx
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i have like 1k torp gold plates too

lyric stump
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I just want spend them and idk whether g7e is worth

whole crypt
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if you don't know whether it's worth just don't make it

wind hazel
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if you care about sub gaming, they are worth

viscid swift
whole crypt
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it partly depends on which subs you're using and what your current subs are

lyric stump
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If not ig il continue to stack until some good surface torp

lyric stump
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Just checked

stark quiver
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i have 500

rigid onyx
wind hazel
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turns out i never craft anything

lyric stump
whole crypt
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I don't know how you guys have so many excess torp plates actually I do but I don't want to talk about it

south sequoia
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Question to the mine(craft) people, does any form of burn reduction affect lion? like durations and direct burn dmg reduction or no?

viscid swift
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hopefully you +13ed at least the 2 improved quad mags

south sequoia
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its classified as a dot but not a burn?

rain bobcat
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lion burn is just dmg tick, not burn

viscid swift
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yeah, so nothing really works against it

lyric stump
rapid shard
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and thats why its BS

whole crypt
viscid swift
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it's partly why it's so broken in PvP

south sequoia
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so pvp broke 3 times in 1 year, incredible

lyric stump
viscid swift
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Lion, Lexington 2 and who again

rigid onyx
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eld

lyric stump
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Cause all my mob are in 2nd floor for affinity