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grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 5:34 PM

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with FDG and Kotori ig

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:35 PM

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she is a bit worse than owari according to sushi but i remember when i started my owari was pulling FdG numbers so owari is unfair CheshireXD

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 5:35 PM

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yeah shes like the best SR BB

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:35 PM

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i think daisen is the best SR BB now actually but idr 100%

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 5:36 PM

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ok ok ty I'll work on Shangrila, dev Roon and Ancho then Kansas and FDG

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:36 PM

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Blessex

ashen crescent Dec 22, 2025, 5:36 PM

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cunning cedar i think daisen is the best SR BB now actually but idr 100%

oumi actually NurnNom

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ijn triple sweep EssexWheeze

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:36 PM

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oumi is a special case BiskoLUL

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 5:36 PM

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but oumi is for non moving bosses iirc

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:37 PM

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on average she might be best i asked neko as well amagipat

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 5:38 PM

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another great BB I missed out on yay

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:38 PM

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i started 2 months after zwei who was arguably the most broken BB when she released WarPat
look to future events dw too much about older ones
they will rerun

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 5:39 PM

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funny how my account is a 2021 account

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:39 PM

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older than me AmagiWow

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 5:39 PM

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create account, oath Prinz, leave

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lmao

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:39 PM

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essexGigaChad

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understandable

ashen crescent Dec 22, 2025, 5:39 PM

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mines 2018 EssexWheeze

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 5:41 PM

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shit do I need to buy Kansas her new skin now ffs

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ugh I guess I'll HAVE to

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as well as Meck's who I don't even have

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wait does this mean WillyD will actually be a good investment for me

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Guam, Laffey II, Kansas, Lex II, Shangrila, Independence

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I see a lot of USS ships

ashen crescent Dec 22, 2025, 5:45 PM

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grizzled oasis as well as Meck's who I don't even have

aint that bad, i got amagi cv skin like 3 months ago and i dont got her EssexAAAAAAAAA

cunning cedar Dec 22, 2025, 5:59 PM

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grizzled oasis wait does this mean WillyD will actually be a good investment for me

Possible
But with guam and laffey and musashi and feb UR idk if u can fit her in

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 6:09 PM

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if this doesn't sound too bad, I think I'll do Kansas after Ancho, ignore IJN completely and go for Meck after FDG

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then I'll decide if I wanna do HMS for Ply or IJN for Shimanto

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@fallow vale general thoughts on this? if you don't mind

fallow vale Dec 22, 2025, 6:16 PM

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I think you've thought it out well

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so go ahead

grizzled oasis Dec 22, 2025, 6:17 PM

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alright thank youuu

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:30 AM

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hmmm I just realised, Kansas won't be coinable nor catchup-able

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does that mean I'll need 343 Series 8 PR prints

opaque beacon Dec 23, 2025, 7:32 AM

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grizzled oasis does that mean I'll need 343 Series 8 PR prints

NimiYes , shouldn’t be hard at all

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You want to max your PRs anyway to speed up DR

ashen crescent Dec 23, 2025, 7:32 AM

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if your ship focus you prob finish the prs first before dr anyway

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:32 AM

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should I be prioritising Kansas face then

opaque beacon Dec 23, 2025, 7:32 AM

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Focus DRs, you naturally get PR

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:33 AM

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alright ty

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though I hope I get enough for her soon since I'm planning to do her right after Anchorage

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:37 AM

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no, try and get from general bps or through G

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tbh you can get flandre instead. coining next month iirc

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or even just use rupprecht

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gold PR BB are pretty average, if they arent daisen lol

ashen crescent Dec 23, 2025, 7:40 AM

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they definitly cant do either yet cause not enuf IB tech EssexWheeze

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:41 AM

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if he can do fdg, he's close enough for rupprecht

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:42 AM

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only reason Im going for Kansas is cos I have 860 USS tech

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and I'm still 150 off FDG

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also cos my BB options are few

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:43 AM

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thats very close already

ashen crescent Dec 23, 2025, 7:43 AM

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480 IB tech, bis will get you another 80, and if you can mlb gneisenau and scharnhost you have enuf NurnNom

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:43 AM

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proven plover thats very close already

but I could do both no?

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FDG DR and Kansas PR

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:43 AM

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sure

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:43 AM

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FDG will ofc be a good BB and Kansas would end up being my 2nd best

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:44 AM

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but you'll have to wait on kansas cause of BP

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:44 AM

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yeaaah

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but I have to wait a while for a good BB anyway

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even if Feb UR is a BB

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still 2.5 months off

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:45 AM

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ashen crescent 480 IB tech, bis will get you another 80, and if you can mlb gneisenau and schar...

do I HAVE to farm WA ugh

ashen crescent Dec 23, 2025, 7:45 AM

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you can actually start working on fdg pretty quick assuming you can yoink the 2 german bc fairly quickly

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:46 AM

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1 of them can be bought from core data lul

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:46 AM

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probably a waste

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:46 AM

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but if you gonna farm for the other one from WA, might as well get through farm. who knows she drops before the other sister

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:46 AM

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not gonna be able to farm 12-4 for ages

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at least I can relax on research after that tho

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FDG, Ancho, Kansas

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:47 AM

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that's what you think

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:47 AM

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that'll last me a while

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:47 AM

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plymouth coining next month

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:48 AM

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well I've decided on that sorta

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either Ply or Shimanto

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:48 AM

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definitely ply first

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:48 AM

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so I farm IJN or HMS tech

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alright HMS

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but timing should be pretty good for that

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:48 AM

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ijn tech will be suffering, it's the route of every newbies

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:48 AM

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I should have FDG and Ancho done by then

ashen crescent Dec 23, 2025, 7:49 AM

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900 RN faction tech for ply BiskoSweat

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:49 AM

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it's 900?

ashen crescent Dec 23, 2025, 7:49 AM

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NimiYes

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:50 AM

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ffs

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might do Kansas then while I farm HMS tech

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:50 AM

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EssexWheeze

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RN isnt that hard, a lot of accessible BB

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but you gotta do filler PR too

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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Kansas can be my filler right

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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like monarch drake etc

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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grizzled oasis Kansas can be my filler right

sure

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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or is she not that good

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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did you get monarch yet?

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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cos idk she seems meh

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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proven plover did you get monarch yet?

nop

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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she is. told you most PR BB are meh except daisen flandre

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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I would do Monarch but Kansas is slightly better at everything

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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even monarch is better i'd argue

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since she got augment

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:51 AM

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but she's coinable

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I mean Kansas would be a placeholder, but she'd be a placeholder for a while

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until I get 3 UR BBs

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same for Monarch

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:53 AM

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monarch augment has slow and eva debuff AkashiHide

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:53 AM

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how viable is Monarch for opsi BB fleet and campaign (W14/W15)

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:53 AM

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viable for mob w14 at least

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:53 AM

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they're basically the same tbh

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except Kansas can sorta do W15

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:54 AM

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proven plover monarch augment has slow and eva debuff <:AkashiHide:588629670430507028>

i prefer monarch

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:54 AM

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but I did say I'm taking a break after W13

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well, a break from campaign

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:55 AM

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using kansas for w15 is asking for trouble really

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:55 AM

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yeaaah

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alright fuck it

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Monarch it is

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:55 AM

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at the very least it's musashi+FDG

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lol

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 7:55 AM

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Ply is an endgame vanguard after all

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might as well

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thanks for the help

proven plover Dec 23, 2025, 7:56 AM

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np gl grinding the tech

glacial ingot Dec 23, 2025, 8:16 AM

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why kansas though

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do you need kansas for ancho or something

opaque beacon Dec 23, 2025, 8:17 AM

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glacial ingot do you need kansas for ancho or something

Prob just likes Kansas

ashen crescent Dec 23, 2025, 8:20 AM

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iirc they just wanted more bbs in general due to the lack of bbs, and since they are doing s8 research they can use her along the way while waiting for ur bbs

grizzled oasis Dec 23, 2025, 8:21 AM

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pretty much ^^^

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since I won't be getting a better BB till Soyuz rerun

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and Ancho required a lot of USS tech points

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Kansas is only 90 off for me

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and after Ancho, there aren't outstanding options I can do for PR since I lack in IJN and IB

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and ideally I want to be building a CV and BB fleet for opsi

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but yeah I've decided to go for Monarch since I'd forgotten about Plymouth being coinable next month

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Agir is lower prio since Guam and Laffey II soon

grizzled oasis Dec 24, 2025, 9:20 AM

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dock Glowow

arctic pebble Dec 24, 2025, 9:23 AM

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There's nothing to sync to, so fast Cowpens is fine to put

lament plinth Dec 26, 2025, 4:30 PM

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Are the grey characters worth keeping?

grizzled oasis Dec 26, 2025, 4:33 PM

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lament plinth Are the grey characters worth keeping?

erm, wrong thread

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might wanna post that in #gameplay-help

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:04 PM

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what I'm thinking to clear strongholds and normal arbiter right now, what do we think?

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not sure if I should make a more concrete mob fleet for the strongholds though, then just the remainder on a shittier 2nd boss fleet

ashen crescent Dec 31, 2025, 2:11 PM

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you want to give your mobbing fleet the high level cats ngl since they will be the one interacting with cat nodes most of the time on auto

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:12 PM

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ashen crescent you want to give your mobbing fleet the high level cats ngl since they will be t...

this is just for strongholds and arbiter, guess I need to do abyssals too

ashen crescent Dec 31, 2025, 2:16 PM

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cats nodes also appear in stronghold (iirc) so unless you wanna keep swapping your loatout constantly it prob better to just have the cats on the mob fleet so you dont have to worry about missing cat nodes

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:16 PM

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ashen crescent cats nodes also appear in stronghold (iirc) so unless you wanna keep swapping yo...

sounds good, what about the ships themselves though

solemn kayak Dec 31, 2025, 2:28 PM

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Portland actively doing nothing in that mob fleet NurnNom

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:32 PM

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solemn kayak Portland actively doing nothing in that mob fleet <:NurnNom:1023947331344793620>

you know I went out of my way to level from 20 to 90 and retrofit her

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just so that I can put her in that fleet

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I had Admiral Hipper there before lmao

solemn kayak Dec 31, 2025, 2:33 PM

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Portland's main function is to tank, her damage is adequate at best, but easily replaced ShiWoke

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:34 PM

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yur but I have no one else

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I have a 3* WillyD I guess

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who'll explode in 3 seconds

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anyways if there's nothing else that could be improved on

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I'll start clearing

short gust Dec 31, 2025, 2:45 PM

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Eugen is fairly useless there with Kurumi tanking

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:45 PM

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right but I don't think I have anyone else

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who won't blow up

short gust Dec 31, 2025, 2:45 PM

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Yeah if anything you could consider doing Kawa

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Since Sandy can offtank fine

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:46 PM

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Kawakaze? What's she good for

short gust Dec 31, 2025, 2:46 PM

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Kawa has decent dmg with her aug

proven plover Dec 31, 2025, 2:46 PM

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raise your clarence

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ARA for your CV fleet. move helena to BB

short gust Dec 31, 2025, 2:46 PM

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But yeah Clarence is great to replace Helena

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:47 PM

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ARA?

proven plover Dec 31, 2025, 2:47 PM

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air raid assistance

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CV buff skill

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:47 PM

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she actually has a use? Glowow

short gust Dec 31, 2025, 2:47 PM

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Yes

proven plover Dec 31, 2025, 2:47 PM

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until you get kazagumo, yeah

short gust Dec 31, 2025, 2:47 PM

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Though Kazagumo is just better

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And I think Potter is as well?

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:48 PM

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is there a way to get Kaza other than build

proven plover Dec 31, 2025, 2:48 PM

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DD medal shop

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:48 PM

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ah, but then opsi would reset if I waited for next month

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is it worth raising Clarence just to do these strongholds and arby

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might just have to suffer with a load of port trips

short gust Dec 31, 2025, 2:50 PM

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I mean there's no guarantee you get DD in meal shop next month

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:50 PM

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yeah true

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is it fine to use 3 CV for mob fleet in opsi?

proven plover Dec 31, 2025, 2:53 PM

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ye

grizzled oasis Dec 31, 2025, 2:54 PM

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lack of good Vanguards and BBs here really fucks me

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once I get FdG, Monarch and Guam/LaffeyII it should be a little better at least

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 4:38 AM

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Hello hello, I've come back from a short break and I need some help with 2 things

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UR bulin upgrade prio and some vanguard sorting for both fleets

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atm I have enough spec cores for 7 UR bulins (can get another from this event)

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current fleets:

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and my URs at 0lb are: WillyD, Laffey II, Moskva and Guam

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which ones should I mlb, if any, and where do they slot into my fleets?

fallow vale Feb 27, 2026, 4:44 AM

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Moskva and Willy D. I guess

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 4:46 AM

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fallow vale Moskva and Willy D. I guess

over Laffey II? Is that cos I have tanky enough ships

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someone earlier in #gameplay-help said I should prioritise Laffey II so

fallow vale Feb 27, 2026, 4:46 AM

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Mainly because I doubt you'll be tackling w15 and 16 anytime soon

proven plover Feb 27, 2026, 4:47 AM

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i'd just do moskva, and get soyuz mlb

fallow vale Feb 27, 2026, 4:47 AM

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And you have Kurumi aa a zombie mob tank

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I would not anticipate soyuz for a month or so

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Seeing as they didn't say when she would rerun

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 4:48 AM

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I think I should be able to get 4 UR bulins by then anyway

proven plover Feb 27, 2026, 4:48 AM

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true

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 4:48 AM

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alright Moskva and WillyD

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where would they fit into my fleets?

proven plover Feb 27, 2026, 4:48 AM

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boss fleet

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can kick off helena yamai

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 4:49 AM

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Moskva as main tank then Ig

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oh and I have cowpens almost at 120 now

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would she replace anyone?

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I'm currently looking to tackle W13 then possibly W14 tho I doubt I'll get far

proven plover Feb 27, 2026, 4:49 AM

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unicorn 😂

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if doing w13 then you can replace kotori instead

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go full cv/l mob

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 4:50 AM

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ooo okay okay

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tyyy MainzHeart

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:08 AM

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grizzled oasis Hello hello, I've come back from a short break and I need some help with 2 thing...

@fair crater the convo isn't too long, just from here

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:08 AM

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what level is wdp

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:09 AM

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70 atm, but I'm grinding D3 anyway so

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Moskva and WillyD will level from there

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:09 AM

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oh

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whose skills are you leveling now

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:09 AM

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no one

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I know I should be but I was taking care of other things

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:09 AM

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then yeh whatever just start leveling them, you can probably throw WDP in for leveling anyway

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:10 AM

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so replacing Helena and Yamai twins is fine?

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for uh Moskva and WillyD

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:10 AM

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I'm fairly sure they can survive 12-4 or at least 12-1 unless you throw them in naked

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:11 AM

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alrighttt ty

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:11 AM

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D3 is even easier so

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:11 AM

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that should be an upgrade tho right

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I just thought Helena would last me a lot longer

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since I don't have the top buffing vanguards

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:11 AM

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there's no direct upgrade to Helena in general, her buff is just too big, it's just when do you retire her when you do enough consistent damage while her debuff becomes overkill

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:12 AM

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is that the case though with my fleets?

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:12 AM

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any fleet where this isn't true is basically dead

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her buff margin is basically giving your a fourth main fleet ship nuke worth if the attacks are synced

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:13 AM

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fair crater her buff margin is basically giving your a fourth main fleet ship nuke worth if ...

so then why would you replace her

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overkill is never a bad thing surely

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:13 AM

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because consistency

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:13 AM

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hmmm

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do you think I shouldn't mlb WdP then?

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:14 AM

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Helena doesn't proc 100% of the time

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:14 AM

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I have Guam and Laffey II as well

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Moskva already mlb'd

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:14 AM

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why not? WDP is great

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:14 AM

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yeah but if Helena is just that good for boss fleets, is it worth replacing her for WdP is my question

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:14 AM

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the point is when you can do 110% damage 100% of the time why gamble for 130% damage 60% of the time, and miss the shot on that 40%

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:15 AM

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I see I see

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:15 AM

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we also let go of Helena from ch14 onwards for campaign because the environment changes significantly

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but for up to ch13 and OS/showdown bossing working with Helena is fine

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:16 AM

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got it

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:16 AM

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for bossing at least until you start to turn to 100% kill fleets instead of gaming for Helena procs

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:16 AM

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I should be able to tackle W13 now with Moskva and WillyD, think I'll need to wait for Soyuz for W14 though

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I'll come back to it when the time comes

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:16 AM

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14 is a whole different beast and there's no hurry to get into it

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:17 AM

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prior to Moskva though, I was told to mlb Laffey II

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over Guam and WillyD

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:17 AM

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not to mention your tops are now 120, you kind of want as much 125 as you can get for 14+

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Laffey II is great yes

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:17 AM

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yeah so I was just little confused on why the mlb prio changed

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:17 AM

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changed to what

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:17 AM

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since both Mori and cheeky agreed on Moskva + WillyD

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:18 AM

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Laffey II shines especially in late campaign where the vanguard pressure can get very high

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:19 AM

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she'd replace Ancho then right?

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or Tohka in boss fleet?

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:19 AM

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for a bossing fleet though she's mostly just a minor AA debuffer

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or in some extreme cases she can tank some of those bosses, but there's no such boss active right now

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:20 AM

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I see

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:20 AM

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if Mori and cheeks recommended you to do Moskva and WDP first just stick with that and worry about Laffey later

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:20 AM

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I am planning to replace Kotori with Cowpens though

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for W13 at least

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she's almost 120 so

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:20 AM

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that can work

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:20 AM

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alright thank you

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I should have FdG up and useable by the time Soyuz comes

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so that'll be 2 UR BBs which'll help a lot with W14

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since I don't have any good BBs atm

fair crater Feb 27, 2026, 6:21 AM

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just don't worry about ch14 it's more than just getting good BBs

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you're also under basically no pressure to do it

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:21 AM

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true true

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my gear isn't great either

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gotta work on that

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Moskva gun seems real good though

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that'll be nice to get

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I've missed out on a month's worth of research and AL gameplay unfortunately

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oh well

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ty for the help MainzHeart

zealous lintel Feb 27, 2026, 6:38 AM

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Bro is lower level but have so much Ssr when i havr shit

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 6:46 AM

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zealous lintel Bro is lower level but have so much Ssr when i havr shit

when did you start?

zealous lintel Feb 27, 2026, 10:11 AM

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grizzled oasis when did you start?

wednesday

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i saw ur old image

glacial ingot Feb 27, 2026, 12:10 PM

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husky started like nov last year

zealous lintel Feb 27, 2026, 12:14 PM

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MutsukiHyperStare

grizzled oasis Feb 27, 2026, 1:27 PM

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yup I think it was uh 29th November

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