gameplay-help

[cobalt robin]

Pleaseee

[rain bobcat]

it's because CN wanted to join the fray and fucked the entire thing up

[viscid swift]

and instead we got a CN stream today which did only partial reveals, tweets revealing other shit a JP stream tomorrow right when the patch will have dropped

something isn't right

[ocean terrace]

wait so when exactly is the maintenance/event start?

[onyx flame]

this thurs

[ocean terrace]

and JP stream is Wednesday

[onyx flame]

yea it wonky

[viscid swift]

yes

[ocean terrace]

from what I've heard there were minor politicals issues between Japan and China so CN decided to do their own thing but pure speculation

[cobalt robin]

Server says 18th

[ocean terrace]

also is it normal for Elite ships to get such skins in new events? Pasadena skin seems to be a big thing they're showing off

[viscid swift]

I read that but it still does not explain all of this

[wind hazel]

very normal

[viscid swift]

there is an ongoing joke an Elite always has the best design

[ocean terrace]

right? Willy D skin wasn't nearly as hyped

[verbal plinth]

artists prob gets more leway with elites imo

[viscid swift]

well then again there is a trend of sorts

[ocean terrace]

wish they'd put effort like that into the SR/UR ships

[viscid swift]

they do

[verbal plinth]

we havent seen lex 2 skin yet

[onyx flame]

Not putting effort into the ur is kinda shooting their own foot

[rapid summit]

Could they have something more planned? I feel as this event is very important to lore

[ocean terrace]

Lex 2 skin must be good regardless, Willy D seemed mediocre personally but I guess it is an L2D

[wind hazel]

not the first time tbh lol

[viscid swift]

I doubt it

the devs have been sloppy as of late

[bleak junco]

She’s super cute so I think it’s a really good skin

[ocean terrace]

fair enough

[verbal plinth]

lets me honest its jp/cn opinions on skins they care about

[rapid summit]

Something def isn’t right but could be for a even future update or sum

[viscid swift]

what future event

[bleak junco]

I guess since they probably bring in more revenue too lol

[cobalt robin]

Im eating good either way cause I was just hoping it would be a uss cv

[viscid swift]

isn't that bloody hard to do announcements

[ocean terrace]

I love Lexy II's design though, no complaints there, hope the skin is great too

[sharp socket]

did the stream say anything about guam/laff2 rerun

[wind hazel]

no

[bleak junco]

No

[sharp socket]

👍

[meager path]

is date alive collab end

[cobalt robin]

it ended a while ago

[meager path]

guess i miss the time to come back oh well ill enjoy this game

[cobalt robin]

You had plenty of time 😭

[meager path]

yeh i literally miss the collab date that i thought it was jp server

[sinful relic]

question, if i bo-ught all 6 slots for the dorm, does that mean when i unlock the 2nd floor ill have 12 slots?

okay! thank you. ill buy all dorm slots.

[clear harbor]

What the difference between the base 134 mm and the Timing Fuse variant?

[ocean terrace]

Could you rank Origami, Enterprise and Saratoga in terms of how suitable they are for mobbing, then the same for bossing?

[clear harbor]

The general recommendation is to buy 3rd dorm slot and the second floor only. Buying the last three slots costs a lot of gems and is likely not worth it.

[ocean terrace]

they spend a lot of money on the game

[clear harbor]

Oh.

If you are okay spending, then it matters less.

[stark quiver]

that advice only applies to f2ps

[clear harbor]

I mean, it still sort of applies to people who spend on a budget?

[wind hazel]

sara mobbing>
enty more or less equal to origami at bossing, less if bad gear

[stark quiver]

sure

but i like all 12 to level and farm so

and i specifically bought them to farm my hvars

[clear harbor]

What do you mean by that?

[ocean terrace]

I assume they were farming an event for HVAR print drops, so they needed morale and got all 12 dorm slots since morale drained a lot with 2 fleets

[clear harbor]

Ah

[stark quiver]

Two fleets?

[ocean terrace]

well you'd get 12 dorm slots for 2 full fleets no?

[stark quiver]

6 1:1s

[ocean terrace]

ah, either way 12 ships

[stark quiver]

2 fleets would be too slow

[wind hazel]

now you can do it with one fleet, just hide the message box

[stark quiver]

what

[wind hazel]

nvm i mistook the setting

[viscid swift]

Just checking their rankings in the end game tier list

[ocean terrace]

well I assumed W12, W13, W15 etc all have different enemies and needs so it might not be as accurate as asking here

but I guess if it's good for W14/W15 it'll be good for any campaign

[viscid swift]

That would be a safe assumption

[clear harbor]

Why Is Sextuple Bofors better on AA ships than everyone else. What's the difference?

[wind hazel]

higher alpha damage

[clear harbor]

Sorry, what do you mean by alpha damage?

[viscid swift]

Damage done in one shot/cooldown

Trade off is it has relatively poor range and reload

[clear harbor]

Oh, so you balance it out with guns with better range and reload? AA takes the vanguard's average, right?

[viscid swift]

Reload and range yes for the entire fleet

[clear harbor]

Oh, entire fleet. I see.

[meager path]

do i use common ship as mlb mat or use them for formation?

[ocean terrace]

huh. you mean to enhance? you should use common ships to enhance your good ships

[meager path]

oh i thought there are also to limit break so only upgrade mat then

guess cygnet is supposely enhance material after im getting new vanguard build.

[onyx flame]

If shes alr lvled and mlb dont feed her as enhancement

Also why are you using cygnet in the first place

[ocean terrace]

should I always pick EU for tech boxes? how do I determine which one I should pick

[rapid summit]

We’re can I find abyssal zones in opsi?

[wind hazel]

depends on your current depot. get enough hellcat, corsair, helldiver etc, then move on to other tech box and get your other gear

[meager path]

she is lvled but not mlb also yeh about that i literally just use whatever tutorial do so i thought main team will be ok no wonder she is even tho level is...squishy

[ocean terrace]

I have plenty of helldivers and hellcats, 0 corsairs
should I move on? if so which is next prio?

[sinful relic]

how much gold do i need? for 200 rolls

[wind hazel]

uh, im not too sure tbh

[ocean terrace]

is there a site that shows you all the drops from tech boxes then

[north gorge]

1500 per roll for event banner

[wind hazel]

i'd probably get at least 2 155 from sakura techbox if you're doing w10 w11

[north gorge]

Grab a calculator

[wind hazel]

then move to ironblood for quad mag, eugen gun

[ocean terrace]

im on W12, just got there

[sinful relic]

so 1500 x 200 = 300000

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/items?term=tech

[sinful relic]

oh boy, im at 60k rn.

[ocean terrace]

you'll earn 300k during the event dw

[onyx flame]

You prob wanr to give this a read if you havent
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[wind hazel]

then probably royal navy, has roomba and baracuda, could help w12 w13

just mainly the roomba really. breguet is better, buy from core shop lul

[ocean terrace]

yeah since Lexy II is a CV, I'll hold out on buying Independence for now

[wind hazel]

it become less of an issue what to pick as you'll get more techbox randomly from farming

[upbeat wagon]

How many coins does it cost to pull on event banner

[sinful relic]

im really tempted to retrofit helena since i have all the mats, but ill hold back for now. also from the stats do you think william d portor will be any decent?

[ocean terrace]

btw how much worse is a purp Barracuda from a gold one?

[upbeat wagon]

No stats revealed yet

[sinful relic]

they revealed the graphs in twitter though?

[ocean terrace]

tells us nothing, never trust those

[sinful relic]

ahh okay

[upbeat wagon]

They dont mean a lot

[sinful relic]

my bad

[ocean terrace]

no you're good, Willy D's stat wheel makes her look like a common ship

[wind hazel]

not by that much really, just mainly avi and some minor dmg difference, the rest are pretty similar

[sinful relic]

her description for port is hilarious though

[onyx flame]

1.5k times 200 or scroll up

[stark quiver]

300k is ez to get

[upbeat wagon]

thanks

[sinful relic]

1500 gold per roll, so in total you need 400 cubes and 300k coins for pity.

[rapid summit]

Do I have to kill the sirens in the map coordinate or am I just here for the loot?

[sinful relic]

for exercise is it 10 per day?

[ocean terrace]

could you check my depot real quick in my thread, I'm pretty sure I don't have much gear left from tech boxes that would improve my current gear, other than gold variants of them

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/1441564631268331721

[onyx flame]

Blue enemies dont give anything, red gives a lil exp if you care bout it

[stark quiver]

@wind hazel do you think lexy 2 can bring back kearsarge

[onyx flame]

15

[rapid summit]

Nah I’m just here for gear stuff

[onyx flame]

Yea then just auto and leave once you pick up all the other stuff

[sinful relic]

if i get enterprise is she worth investing intowards?

because honestly enterprise is beautiful and i want her, that being said ive seen her in a fair few defensive line ups for exercise so i was just wondering if shes any good

[onyx flame]

I would but depends on your cv situation

[sinful relic]

i need more CVs if im being honest

[onyx flame]

She like the best gold cv by far iirc

[hardy whale]

Hi there, I just got enough mats to MLB my Shimakaze, do I do that or do I Limit Break my NJ or Ulrich to 5 star?

[onyx flame]

Non of em shouldnt use bulins on perma ur

[sinful relic]

ill be swapping kiryuu with lexi2, and i was thinking of swapping rodney with enterprise if i get her sometime so i have 2BBs and 4 CVs. 1 bb and 2 cvs per team.

[hardy whale]

1. holy shit brave frontier
2. i only have them 3 atm and id say im a newer player, still save the bulins?

[stark quiver]

yeah

[onyx flame]

Yea cause new ur coming this thurs

[hardy whale]

icic, does the UR pity carry over to that new UR or nah

[onyx flame]

Nah

Pull 1 copy and dip basixally

Back to 1 light pull a day afterwards

[hardy whale]

I def dont got enough lol, probably about 20 pulls only 😂

[sinful relic]

at the rate its going, ill be getting more UR ships than what i can get for UR bulins. since i was told jan has more URs?

[onyx flame]

Ya thats life but ur event also give 1 free bulin

[rapid summit]

When is Laffey II rerun?

[onyx flame]

Next year prob jan

[sinful relic]

at the very least i can full MLB lexi2 when i get her

[north gorge]

Early next year

[ocean terrace]

Origami is great if you have her

[sinful relic]

.... shes the onlyu one i didnt get.

[rain vine]

pvp defense fleets dont really matter

[rapid summit]

So Guam Laffey II Yorktown II and Soyuz all coming in the first quarter of 2026?

[ocean terrace]

well Enty is more or less as good as her so

[sinful relic]

thats good to know

[onyx flame]

York2 is this thurs

[sinful relic]

wait HUH

[ocean terrace]

York2 being added to perma

[onyx flame]

Added to perma

[ocean terrace]

your UR pity priority doesn't change much though

[sinful relic]

OHH shes one i wanted, will she be more worth getting than- oh okay

[ocean terrace]

I think she's 1 less prio than Vanguard?

[sinful relic]

can i invest in getting her if thats the case after musashi?

[onyx flame]

[ocean terrace]

sashi then nano

[sinful relic]

sashi?

[rapid summit]

I CAN HAVE NICE AND CARING SHIPGIRL IN MY FLEET

[bleak junco]

Thank you for answering my question before I even asked

[ocean terrace]

musashi then shinano

[sinful relic]

OH okay

[ocean terrace]

I forgot where she fits exactly, but definitely below those 2

[sinful relic]

oh god that means i actually have to focus on OPSI after i get lexi 2 as ill need some actual good gear for her.

[ocean terrace]

until then stick with the usual purple gear you probably have (helldivers, barracuda etc)

[sinful relic]

oh btw been meaning to ask, for events pity, do they transfer to normal banner pity or they carry over to the next event banner. or do they just get sent to the shadow realm

[ocean terrace]

separate pity

[onyx flame]

Shadow realm

[sinful relic]

noted thats good to know.

[ocean terrace]

that's why you want 400 coobs

[sinful relic]

hold on i can show my planes in a minute, ive been only getting planes which is why i was thinking of getting 4CVs for my mob and boss fleet.

[ocean terrace]

better to show in a thread and get someone to check on them

in general though, BBs are easier to gear

[sinful relic]

ill send them in my thread then.

[stark quiver]

[ocean terrace]

you can only start/queue new research after all of the previous queue is completed right?

[stark quiver]

no

[ocean terrace]

since the research available doesn't refresh

[stark quiver]

as long as there is an option slot in the queue

[ocean terrace]

but my current researches available aren't changing since 1 of them is queued

[stark quiver]

can you ss

[ocean terrace]

I have to wait for this one to be done no?

[stray crane]

u can refresh

[stark quiver]

uh no
cancel this research and pick the cuniberti research

[stray crane]

q it

[fair lance]

You can't because you picked the middle one I think which wants you to complete x amount of campaign on x stage

[ocean terrace]

but I did complete it, it's just queued

[fair lance]

click on it and screen shot that

[stray crane]

\

queue it

[stark quiver]

please just

[stray crane]

ur queue slot full ?

[stark quiver]

why is everyone giving shit advice

[ocean terrace]

I usually don't do face unless it's Meck or Gouden

[stark quiver]

thats why you dont have any gouden and meck face prints

[ocean terrace]

how does that make sense...

[stark quiver]

you do know getting getting enough prints to dev30/current max dev level a ship cancels them out from the research pool for the time being right

[wind hazel]

[ocean terrace]

oh so you have to end up taking ones you don't want?

[wind hazel]

is your meck and gouden dev30?

[ocean terrace]

hell no

[wind hazel]

just do what alpha said, cancel and pick cuni

[ocean terrace]

alr

but what is he talking about regarding face research

[wind hazel]

he misunderstood you

[stark quiver]

i didnt

[wind hazel]

this doesnt make sense then

[stray crane]

these give u ship prints

[ocean terrace]

I know but why would I want Kansas and not Meck/Gouden

[stark quiver]

let me explain

[fair lance]

When a ship becomes dev30 they are removed from showing up in research until you have dev30 every ship in that pr.

[wind hazel]

unless you mean it's because he's taking longer researches, and thus having less prints of them

but your follow up explanation doesnt make any sense

[ocean terrace]

I only take up to 4 hours, and even then I try to take Q or G if no face for Meck/Gouden

[stray crane]

i m saying anything with face on it give the taht ships print

[ocean terrace]

I know I know, I think he's explaining something else

[stark quiver]

i mean by targeting only the DR faces, and picking shit researches everywhere else, that means more time to get the PRs done and out the pool, thus decreasing the spawn rate of DR faces

[wind hazel]

that's what i said

[ocean terrace]

it's usually either G or Q, with Meck or Gouden

[stark quiver]

You see how I have enough prints to dev 30 cuniberti, Kansas, and the other pr?
That way, they are now gone from my pr8 research pool, which means I only get either Gouden/mecklemberg face researches now

[wind hazel]

yes but from this list, cuni is the best choice

[ocean terrace]

got it

shorter time = more chance for meck and gouden

[wind hazel]

kansas, too long. C, shit. B, also kinda shit. H, pricey

[stray crane]

wait so u dont have to dev 30 all u need are prints

[ocean terrace]

I'm just being iffy about using coins for a ship I don't need, but I see why it's good to go for it

[stark quiver]

thats the immediate outcome
this is the long-ish term outcome

[rain vine]

you have 259k coins, you can afford to spend 3k to get through this round of research selection

[wind hazel]

but it's also possible to max DR before PR

[stark quiver]

it goes both ways

[ocean terrace]

right so I shouldn't think I don't need any other PR8 prints, it's more so I should get them all but ideally Meck/Gouden when I can

[stark quiver]

yes target the DRs if they are in the pool
if not then take the lowest time PR face

[wind hazel]

you just follow this really

[ocean terrace]

I just spent 20k on gear upgrade and awakening, it hurt to watch but you're right

[wind hazel]

as you can see 2.5hD appears before any of the 4 in both route

[stark quiver]

i spent 400k in 1 minute before, dont worry coins are easy to come across

[ocean terrace]

alright ty guys

it's taken like 5 different instances of asking about research and probably more to come lmao

[stark quiver]

i asked a lot too back then
My research choices were also horrible

[ocean terrace]

pissed I only learned about queueing today

[cobalt gate]

whats the new team for yorktown meta

[stark quiver]

i learned about it 3-4 years after i started

[cobalt gate]

whats queing?

[wind hazel]

[stark quiver]

Research queue bro

[cobalt gate]

oh that nvm then

[ocean terrace]

I should pick Agir for catchup after FDG right? she's almost at 150

[tulip tinsel]

coin and use catch up to convert bps into core

[ocean terrace]

right but I assume I'll be coining Anchorage or Agir after Roon and FDG

[stark quiver]

maybe not agir
anchorage is good

[ocean terrace]

reasoning?

[stark quiver]

you are getting gouden right?

thats already 2 tanks

[ocean terrace]

Anchorage only provides smokescreen as her use right?

is she just more versatile then for vanguard

[stark quiver]

anchorge has support skills which is good

[wind hazel]

can he even develop gouden

or get enough print to be useful

[ocean terrace]

Meck and Gouden will probably take me half a year to get to lmao

[stark quiver]

Surely we can get that done before agir coining

[ocean terrace]

well I've decided to coin every ship I can

[wind hazel]

getting agir after anchorage is very natural for new players. armour break is useful for your BB team too

[stark quiver]

[ocean terrace]

yeah my understanding was Roon, FDG, Agir/Anchorage

[wind hazel]

and with plymouth getting coin next month, you can use plymouth DR prints for protocore

[strange sphinx]

[ocean terrace]

but anyway should I focus Anchorage or Agir then?

[stray crane]

🫡

[wind hazel]

or go back to azuma drake, if you really desperate for protocore. but i dont think it's that needed

[tulip tinsel]

me who didn't get ancho only after agir kear and hinden

[forest palm]

Anchorage and Agir have about the same eHP btw...

[strange sphinx]

I just got D30 Plymouth this past 2 months and I will hear that she will be coined

[wind hazel]

anchorage first

comes online way quicker, cheaper

[slow fox]

-# I haven't had an eHP query in days
-# It's a desolate land

[ocean terrace]

Willy D eHP please

[wind hazel]

D's eHP in 2 days

[onyx flame]

soon ™ with willam

[slow fox]

Oh right

[verbal plinth]

calm before the storm

[lavish scroll]

Does exp buff appliable on Operation Siren?

[ocean terrace]

think I asked this recently but to make sure I'm not fucking up,
I should convert all available PR blueprints to Roon so I can convert them to protocores asap right?

[ivory sigil]

Cuniberti the upcoming skin is somethin dingaling

[rain vine]

are you asking about the general bps?

[ocean terrace]

yes

[rain vine]

if you can coin that season, then convert
otherwise use the bps on their respective seasons

[ivory sigil]

I think protocore is very worth no matter what

[ocean terrace]

what about seasons above PR6?

for DR, I'm saving them right. But for PR?

[rain bobcat]

shimanto

[ocean terrace]

ah so don't convert PR6 and above

[fair lance]

You could wait iirc pr6(not DR) should be coinable soon.

[ivory sigil]

combat data? I did remember someone said convert it

[ocean terrace]

does that change anything though?

I can do that when it occurs since I'll have PR6 general prints available if I'm not converting them rn

[rain vine]

not really, i would honestly still use the pr6 general prints on shimanto to get her online faster

[fair lance]

I'm just giving you more info to make a decision. You can either get Shimanto faster or wait till she's coinable.

[ocean terrace]

im planning to coin every ship I can, including DRs

[ocean terrace]

I don't have the faction tech for every ship above like PR2 anyway
but ty for the info

[wind hazel]

@hollow gust lion gouden lion 1% hp as boss spawn lmao

[hollow gust]

How tf did you lose

[sweet delta]

have you tried raising their levels?

[wind hazel]

more like how did your lion not explode

can you record yours, i wanna see what's the difference ~_~

[stark quiver]

2% hp before boss spawn

[sinful relic]

should i get this? was looking at the gear recommendations and i think this is the DD gun for 3rd boss?

tashkent? i may looking at it wrong

[rain bobcat]

it's a very bad habit to consistently try the next best thing as a newbie especially when it's not a massive improvement in hindsight

[sweet delta]

It is indeed Tashkent gun and is good for a gold, but it is not worth 800 core data

[sinful relic]

idk what to get for core data if im being honest

[upbeat wagon]

White and black shell

[sinful relic]

only thing i bought was the white bullet which people told me to get

[upbeat wagon]

If you only have one buy another/buy a black shell

[sinful relic]

this?

[ocean terrace]

you need like 3 white shells, 1 black iirc?

[upbeat wagon]

Yeah

[sinful relic]

since it hasnt reset i only have 1 white shell

[upbeat wagon]

could go for more after buying other stuff

[rain bobcat]

3 white 1 black > indep > breguet > other stuff you might need like sub gear

[ocean terrace]

yeah but at that point I think Indep and Breguet are higher prio for new players

[sinful relic]

should i get the black shell now? or save till i get 2 more white shells?

[rain bobcat]

also arrays are very important later on to buy

[rain bobcat]

just get it

[sinful relic]

got it

i know itll be a while till i grind for roon but i honestly cant wait, she looks cute

[stray crane]

dman another roon lover

[ivory sigil]

Does a golden red skill book still worth 2k4 coin to buy in your opinion?

[ocean terrace]

don't buy anything unless it's at least 70% off, even then you should ask here just in case

[ivory sigil]

Why not 3white 1 black idont get it, rn i only 2 BBs

[onyx flame]

you eventually form a 3 bb fleet for opsi

[ivory sigil]

I mean i still buy 2k4 daily for any skill book but recently the book is getting pile up after to DAL event end and free 10 skip book a day arent here anymore

[stray crane]

why u need a 3 bb fleet for opsi

[wind hazel]

not a need. more like a natural progress for any newbie. it's simple and effective boss fleet

[rain bobcat]

because they're good, they're cheap, they work

[sterile jolt]

Cv-fleet more expensive in equipment ig

[forest palm]

I forget don't Abyssal have a weakness to certain hull types

[stark quiver]

mfw shelling damage = 1

[onyx flame]

they get the weakness at 50% hp but if you one tap it it doesnt really matter

[stray crane]

my random fleet can clear opsi without any issue

not the hard boss tho

[rain bobcat]

here and there yeah

[wind hazel]

so can mine. what's your point...

[stark quiver]

i use my pvp fleet for everything

since its the only geared fleet i have

[ocean terrace]

I assume they're saying they don't see the point of a 3 BB fleet if their fleet is working fine

[forest palm]

well sure steam rolling anything would make something pointless, but it is something low end players can learn to take advantage of....

[wind hazel]

their account is not other newbie account either

[sweet delta]

My random fleet can one tap the hard boss in 19 seconds

[rain bobcat]

that's not a great benchmark mate

[stray crane]

u got the gear of cause u can

[stark quiver]

same, my fleet can tap the boss once in 19s too
but 3-4 more taps follow

[sterile jolt]

Xddd

[rain bobcat]

just about anything can kill anything that's not hard boss

[ocean terrace]

oh right I forgot about that lol

[wind hazel]

wow now you can start to see the logic! a little more

[rain bobcat]

[stark quiver]

[gray sphinx]

[onyx flame]

damn my fleet cant one tap lvl 12 yorkm

[stray crane]

[ivory sigil]

-# Why akashi not send me to police after the mission tell me to touchher

[stray crane]

tf bro?

[sinful relic]

huh

[ivory sigil]

The mission said touchher twice daily to gain free mail, but today isnt had any mail

[sterile jolt]

Help channel, anyways...

[scenic mesa]

Nice Mutsooke bro

[ivory sigil]

So the T3 skill book is not worth 2k4 coin for late game player right?

[stray crane]

just buy it

[rain bobcat]

nothing not cube is worth in reset coin shop lol

[sweet delta]

Id buy it for 3.50 coins

[sterile jolt]

For w11< is ok you can just farm another 2.4k

[rain bobcat]

[ocean terrace]

do you reaaaally need it... 2.4k is almost 2 pulls in the event

[rain bobcat]

mathematical symbol fail moment

[sterile jolt]

W11< "your progression", whats wrong?

[rain bobcat]

gold is especially annoying to get w11 and below

that's the main reason farming events feel like absolute shit

[lofty thistle]

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[sterile jolt]

below, yes. But my answer is after w11

Huh?...

[rain bobcat]

nvm I just misread

[wind hazel]

nah it's just terrible sentence structure lmao

[rain bobcat]

you usally phrase it as >X not X<

[wind hazel]

"for world 11 less than" like wtf is this lol

[rain bobcat]

its very very wrong to phrase it like that

[ocean terrace]

W11< means under W11

[upbeat wagon]

The crocodile's jaws look for the bigger food

[sterile jolt]

Oh, ok than

[stark quiver]

{x|x>w11}

[wind hazel]

nerd

[rain bobcat]

nono in technicality it could be right, it's just very counterintuitive

less than w11 is <w11

greater than w11 is >w11

[ocean terrace]

I mean if they said 'W11 < your current chapter' then yeah

[wind hazel]

quik mafs

[lofty thistle]

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[sterile jolt]

Xddd

[ocean terrace]

well you gotta put something after the < to make it viable

[upbeat wagon]

not rly

11< can mean anything bigger than 11

[ocean terrace]

W11+ would be a lot better in that specific sentence

[wind hazel]

Brother, just speak proper English. Stop using symbols!

[sterile jolt]

How to make "help channel" into "math sentence" channel

[wind hazel]

in the end dont buy 2.4k red skill book, the end

[ocean terrace]

we love a debate over here apparently

[rain bobcat]

w11< is saying w11 is less than something but what the fuck something is we don't know

[ruby grotto]

Is crafting any two of these worth it

[wind hazel]

2nd one for pvp, kinda

[stark quiver]

pvp mentioned

[rain bobcat]

maybe 2nd but niche

[sweet delta]

You haven't seen a real gph debate yet

[hollow gust]

Is yours on safe?

[wind hazel]

ye safe

[ocean terrace]

is it bad that I went back to see what the berke lore was about
(someone forwarded it)

[hollow gust]

How tf you lose on safe

[wind hazel]

dont talk so much, show yours

[rain bobcat]

what stage

[sweet delta]

That's not a debate

[rain bobcat]

that's the legend of gph himself

[wind hazel]

13-1H, he suggested lion gouden. i tried and fail

[whole crypt]

gph has real debates?

[clear harbor]

Anything in mind I should check before entering an abyssal zone? Make sure I have a Regroup and Rest order ready to go?

[hollow gust]

13-1H? Or w15

[wind hazel]

13-1H bruh

[lofty thistle]

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[wind hazel]

why would i do w15

[lofty thistle]

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[clear harbor]

I can leave Abyssal zones?

[rain bobcat]

you only need that if you are weak

[forest palm]

like cheap chip farming on HM?

[wind hazel]

no just low oil

[forest palm]

fair enough

[whole crypt]

for the record repairing does not remove low resolve, and for abyssals you can't leave

it depends on your use case

[hollow gust]

I don't even know what's happening

[wind hazel]

alpha asked, i suggested the saratoga/indep ham2/z52 one. me and nnt had experience doing it before

[whole crypt]

doing what before?

[wind hazel]

low oil 13-1h

[whole crypt]

oh yeh

[forest palm]

there are 2 mobs that spawn if you follow the tiles up and through the back of the map that you can use to clear Low Resolve in Abyssal fights

[whole crypt]

I forgot what it was but it was pre-GL era

that and I stopped bothering anyway

[wind hazel]

same. only becuase alpha asked and grey suggested lion gouden and i got baited again -oil

[hollow gust]

What are you even using 1-1?

[wind hazel]

my brother in christ, what you suggested. lion gouden

you're not gonna tell me you suggested blindly and thought we were talking about w15 now are you

[whole crypt]

I did it before but it was pre-GL was probably Sandy or Shimanto or some shit

it also had like a maybe 2% fail rate I don't remember

[sterile jolt]

Uni/d7p and indep/shimanto for boss. So we tested 115 lvl d7p for this xdd

[whole crypt]

eh, it's hard, if you're lowoiling it's only the boss you can load up the second fleet

[wind hazel]

i dont think those 2 fleets alone pass the requirement check lol

unless that's w13 and not 13-1H

[whole crypt]

yeh I remember it was strictly a problem of finding the right ships to fill the reqs

[verbal plinth]

that sounds like 1-1 chip w13

[sterile jolt]

but why do you even trying 13-1H with 1-1?...

[wind hazel]

yea it sounds like that

[whole crypt]

tryharding saving oil

[wind hazel]

[whole crypt]

I'm not saying you should, but it's a thing that some people tried and/or still do

ah right yeh it's a bitch filling up the AA with the required ship slots or something

mainly because you're down 2 vanguards

[ivory sigil]

I guess so... i already bought tho
That's a quite amusing math debate up there

[strange sphinx]

[wind hazel]

ye had to use bunch of aa radars lol

[inland shoal]

I don't see the point tbh
Unless you can't do can't do w13 with your lvling fleet? But then again if you can do it 1-1...

[strange sphinx]

oil in hard is not even that high

[wind hazel]

in the end i went back full fleet 13-4H

[whole crypt]

also another problem being ACV because you might be stuck in parity

I do 13-3 because I never 100%ed 13-4

[hollow gust]

[whole crypt]

again, not recommending it

[ivory sigil]

Is there is a ranking in Endgame tierlist for Exercise PvP? I dont think EX are refer to them

[wind hazel]

#pvp pinned doc

[whole crypt]

#pvp check pins

[hollow gust]

Why do you like endgame tierlist anyway, kinda useless at your level

[whole crypt]

you can float maybe 40-60 oil a day, I wouldn't surprised if there are tryhards who still do it but personally I stopped bothering

[ocean terrace]

still a good benchmark to know what ships to invest into

since even Elite ships are mentioned there if they're useable

[lofty thistle]

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[whole crypt]

raising ships get easier as you go, there's no need to optimize lategame ships for early to mid

[ocean terrace]

for the most part we aren't pulling so I get your point, but hey nice to look at ships I might get in the future

[hollow gust]

Newbies should be investing into different stuff though most of the time. Its incredibly useless to max out a Sandy so early on

[whole crypt]

save for new UR

[wind hazel]

wait until thursday

[ocean terrace]

isn't much to do imo

[whole crypt]

oh right was it CN stream last night? did they announce UR?

[wind hazel]

ye lexII

[rapid shard]

Lex 2 and willy d

[lofty thistle]

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[wind hazel]

more like they didn't announce lexington

[verbal plinth]

forget that was a stream and wait for jp lol

[ocean terrace]

stream didn't announce much other than Willy D, Cleve Meta, Pasadena and Maury retro
as well as skins

[whole crypt]

lol what maury retro?

[rain bobcat]

yes mori retro lol

[wind hazel]

lexington and cowpen skipped on stream

[hollow gust]

Newbies are so addicted to stuff like Sandy when they don't realize how hard stuff like Juneau and Nelson carries. Not to mention how cheaper they all

[ocean terrace]

but that's assuming we haven't got a mobbing BB already

[whole crypt]

damn is that our first moroboshi ship...

[ocean terrace]

you can graduate from Pennsylvania in like the first 2 days

[whole crypt]

and what's with USS and their rainbow DDs

[rain bobcat]

replace uss with AL

[wind hazel]

ngl but grey you chose a really poor example. sandy vs juneau lol

if you had to raise one of them for 2nd fleet, sandy is no brainer

[ocean terrace]

to be fair I haven't started retrofitting Sandy yet, but I will after I finish pulling this UR event

[whole crypt]

ok so nothing important for me CV wise

[rain bobcat]

CV is just so dead unless lexi becomes the goat of goats

[wind hazel]

lexii spawn 10 butterflies, trust

[rain bobcat]

CVs are either best in 1 armour and not the best in other 2 or they just can't even beat BBs in any armour

[hollow gust]

One is exponentially cheaper to use. Juneau is sufficiently enough for you run through w12

[whole crypt]

for the record that's not the CV I'm refering to

[ocean terrace]

but so is Portland no? and she's mentioned in newbie tips

[hollow gust]

They do different things

[stark quiver]

debates being the :im right youre wrong stuff

[whole crypt]

nowadays I can't honestly recommend Juneau when there are other shit to retrofit, pre-retro Sandy with aug is also great

[ocean terrace]

fair enough, but there have been plenty of great ships recently so

[wind hazel]

yeah seriously who the fuck would say go raise juneau instead of sandiego under ch13 lmao

cheeky would wake up and flame you fr no 🧢

[whole crypt]

Juneau retrofit lasted right until Sandy aug

[stark quiver]

ngl i raised juneau to 125

[ocean terrace]

I've had my Sandy mlb wit her UA for like 2 weeks straight now
don't even use her

[whole crypt]

I raised Juneau to 125 too but that's PvP

[wind hazel]

🤝

[hollow gust]

If it's not well timed , you basically don't get augment currency for weeks. That's what happens regularly for lil e accounts

[wind hazel]

if you dont have augment by 2nd fleet, you had bad planning

[inland shoal]

Yeah but no way that is better than just full lvling fleet or even just using 2 maxed ships and rest lvling

[whole crypt]

yeh but you're also struggling to juggle a bunch of retrofits at the point where you're moving up 12-13 ish to actually afford Juneau

[ocean terrace]

only ships I've retrofitted so far are Helena and Unicorn lol

oh and Maryland

but tbf DAL event came with a lot of accessible good ships

[whole crypt]

Helena is a low priority retrofit

[rain bobcat]

helena is a low prio

[ocean terrace]

don't have anyone else needing retrofit tho

[stark quiver]

surely this works

[rain bobcat]

you need helena retro maybe 5 months in

[ocean terrace]

plus Helena was the squishiest vanguard by miles for me

[whole crypt]

that's why you keep stocking CV for Independence, or Portland as tank for second fleet even if you have Tohka

[wind hazel]

since you have trouble understanding, allow me to explain it to you grey. newbies at most only have alabama as their first unique augment to worry about. they won't be using sandiego on their first fleet. it's usually by 2nd fleet they will start to raise sandiego. if you don't have enough augment module to get sandiego's augment when you get to your 2nd fleet, then it's your poor planning to blame

[ocean terrace]

I have enough prints for Independence and Sandy atm

just saving coins for UR event pulling

haven't even mlb'd portland due to DAL vanguards being so good

[stark quiver]

kotori good for me

[wind hazel]

you can forget about portland really

[ocean terrace]

and I'm so close to unlocking Roon, I don't think Portland will ever be used in my fleet

this probably doesn't apply to most new players though since DAL was full of good vanguards

[wind hazel]

lemme know the result

i tried z52 solo vanguard before but sometimes she rams and explode

maybe cowpen will save us

[whole crypt]

what class is Lex II?

[hollow gust]

Mori have you even played early game in years? your progression is just warped asf. If you aren't lucky with busted as events like DAL or Medal then you will be stuck with worst ships when you want to rush w12. Juneau would be a worst investment if you get lucky with event timing , but she is still a solid go to for utility

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

brother wtf are you talking about. newbie fleet literally will be fine until ch9 or 10 lol

[stark quiver]

indep got slaughtered

[wind hazel]

by then if you have to choose between sandiego or juneau, you pick juneau? wtf

[rapid shard]

Newbie fleet with solid early gear clears 11

[stark quiver]

plan B
we use double radar

[rapid shard]

Wouldnt wyvern be better than spearfish for intercept?

[wind hazel]

you can ask anyone here and see who they would pick as 2nd fleet investment. sandiego or juneau

[stark quiver]

she lived for 2 more seconds

[stark quiver]

probably yeah
but i dont have +13 wyv

[random rain]

is there any scenario where a spearfish is better than a wyvern? I see most setups use the latter than the former and im just curious about it before I spend any mats on the spearfish

[stark quiver]

theres a lot

[wind hazel]

if your AA is solid and you want more damage

[stark quiver]

if you arent a dirt poor noob for one

[hollow gust]

you want two fleets preferably for w11/12 ? You can literally use both , Sandy is just for AA, and dps if you grabbed her Aug

[wind hazel]

?????

[random rain]

huh, cool; too poor for now though maybe when i get more mats or smthn

[wind hazel]

you want 2 fleets by ch10 already

wdym you can use both, of course we wanna use both. that's the entire point of making 2nd fleet. what are you saying now, i don't get you

and of course raising sandiego means using her with augment

there would be no point in using sandiego otherwise

[hollow gust]

Then what the fuck is wrong with Juneau and cheaper ships? Idk why you are so obsessed with Sandy being better, you want to use both anyway

[stark quiver]

can you two kiss and make up

[wind hazel]

it's literally because sandiego is the better ship. you can choose to raise another ship other than juneau

[ocean terrace]

this is fun to watch, plus I'm interested in seeing what's better anyway

[ivory sigil]

I will slowly build Sandy i didnt expect her resources sinking until i actually tried pardon me for a miserable newbie

I do heard Juneau being good in pvp
So i might consider building her up on my 3rd team progression,

About Nelson.... her skill sound underwhelm? I mean i did get my hand maxout retrofit on Maryland 1st and yet her power seem really lacking without other BBs fleet.

Since our next UR are not going to be a BB, guess start invest to a Nelson now is not a badchoice right? I still in middle of investing Ark Royal

[rapid shard]

+10 should be fine tho.

[wind hazel]

your first fleet, if we use newbie fleet, are already portland, helena, DD starter

2nd fleet, another tank, sandiego, and now 3rd slot can be another ship than Juneau

[hollow gust]

Mori arguing for the sake of arguing

[wind hazel]

no, it's because you said something silly

[hollow gust]

For w12 if you don't have higher end ships you still want a solid AA ship for both fleets

[stark quiver]

id rather get in as much dmg as possible
its a 1:1 afterall

[wind hazel]

yes and unicorn indep can take care of that in your mob just fine

you can even shove saratoga as 3rd cv, with how many CV we getting in recent years

[ivory sigil]

Roon is BB?

[inland shoal]

Idk about that, Nelson is kind of another Mary
Just finish Ark

[hollow gust]

The entire point is that if you don't get hit with a lucky event you will have to pick permanent alternatives. Juneau limitbreaks herself , she is a decent AA ships. That's it . What takes are you even trying to say

[ocean terrace]

what. she's a CA and Portland is a CA

[wind hazel]

it's because you said people are obsessed with sandiego

[ivory sigil]

I see, no other viable BB then

My ironblood tech is nearly 0 since i was laffeybased

[ocean terrace]

I didn't talk about BBs...

[wind hazel]

she's more expensive, yes. but it's only the gold bulin and augment

which isn't much an issue for new players by 2nd fleet timing

so it becomes rather pointless choosing juneau over sandiego

[ocean terrace]

honestly I've gathered plenty of resources for retrofitting Sandy, as long as you do it in one go, I think it's fine

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

please go back to this

this was your initial statement, don't escape from that

[hollow gust]

What's wrong with that statement?

[wind hazel]

sandiego can carry better than juneau

[hollow gust]

Have you even bothered playing at earlier game at all?

[wind hazel]

yes, i have 3 newbies accounts across other servers lol

[hollow gust]

When I played LilE again it was literally impossible to get augment mats for weeks until the event pop around. Where tf are you going to grab Sandy augment?

[wind hazel]

did you buy lv70 pack?

[hollow gust]

Investment in Juneau in that case was viable, it lets me push through w12 easier

[whole crypt]

the problem isn't Juneau retrofit isn't good, it's whether it's worth the resources for the retrofit depending what your other expenditures are at that point

[wind hazel]

most newbies won't be pushing through w12 in less than a week, i hope you understand that first.

[stark quiver]

ima +13 a toolkit for this

[hollow gust]

June is a rare ship, you get enough copies to limit break her without bulins. She is an alternative investment that can benefit you, nowhere did I say she is must get.

If you are chasing every single SR improvement all you are doing is hampering yourself. When cheap rare and elite retrofits are perfectly capable of carrying you through early game

[rain bobcat]

[inland shoal]

Good luck +13 a purple

[stark quiver]

+11

[hollow gust]

Max is +11

[stark quiver]

same diff

[wind hazel]

yes, that i agree. notice how i never said juneau isn't good

[hollow gust]

Then what was the problem of the original statement?

[wind hazel]

i am comparing juneau vs sandiego as the next investment for 2nd fleet

[wind hazel]

again go back to this

literally nothing wrong with picking sandiego

it is better to pick sandiego

[hollow gust]

Sandy was an example, half the people here go for her retrofit when there is no need. The Sandy I used didn't even have Aug.

[wind hazel]

nobody here is talking about sandy retro

[rain bobcat]

that usually happens because they don't ask

[wind hazel]

also where is your fucking video 13-1H lion gouden

[rain bobcat]

none of us actually rec sandy retro until w13

[wind hazel]

are you seriously telling me you told me lion gouden because you thought it was for w15???

[hollow gust]

It was originally talking about w15, as for w13-1 you aren't gonna hit air supremacy with only a BB in fleet

[wind hazel]

btw it was all for this

[wind hazel]

fuck you, seriously

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

so you didn't bother reading context and recommended fucking lion gouden

[hollow gust]

And you say I'm a dick

[inland shoal]

Can we not

[wind hazel]

tell me how is this w15

[whole crypt]

just cut it out or have fun in DMs

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

yes i guess your ego is too big to even admit your own fault for being unable to read

[forest palm]

[hollow gust]

Okay I assumed it was w15 and I was mistaken, that's pretty obvious

[wind hazel]

i respect thorin, hard worker for wiki. bye

[hollow gust]

Tf you mean ego, ffs

Every time I'm here you act like a ass

[whole crypt]

I think in the end I used something like Aquila + Sandy

[hollow gust]

Why Sandy instead of something like Z52? aa?

[ivory sigil]

Sandy is still there for w13 probably. So she might there as a 2nd-3rd fleet member

But yeah i do agree Juneau is really something worth build whether she is 1st fleet or 2nd fleet
Retrofit her was a ease of mind anyway.

But yeah idk about w12 - w13 with them tho... it all seemingly underwhelmed if not lvl120?

[whole crypt]

yeh

[cobalt rapids]

its unlikely to not have better investments than juneau

[clear harbor]

Do Abyssal Zones scale with their corruption level? I managed to cleared a Corrosion level 5 Abyssal zone okay. WIll CL 6 Abyssal be more difficult?

[whole crypt]

was it alpha asking for the 13-1 1-1?

[lofty thistle]

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[whole crypt]

I'll see what I can put together tonight

it's been too long since I've done it

[cobalt rapids]

stats scale
modifiers are "random"
a zombie/shield c5 could be tougher than c6

[wind hazel]

i went batman a bit on your img and found indep sara z52, 3 ships

or was it indep volga i forgot

[whole crypt]

that's not really how it works in AL

[abstract ore]

Is investing cube on H research worth it currently, bcuz there would be a new UR comin soon

[upbeat wagon]

Make sure you have at least 400 cubes

[wind hazel]

depends on your cube

[whole crypt]

even if you're paying you're paying to catchup on missed progression compared to a veteran player

[abstract ore]

351 rn

[hollow gust]

When you use rare ships they will be extremly restricted, main consideration for June and Sandy was that they are extremely easy to obtain permanent ships.

In early game especially when you want to hit a AA heavier world you won't be able to rely purely on air supremacy. Thus Juneau is survivable enough and provides for AA for mob

[wind hazel]

skip cubing

[upbeat wagon]

nope

[analog tendon]

Nelson retro is my boss fleet flagship. Until now i've been using white shell + HSFCR as auxiliaries, but i just got Nelson's Pennant of Victory. Which aux should i replace?

[cobalt rapids]

shell

[upbeat wagon]

If u dont need timing, the latter; if you do, white shell

[inland shoal]

No gifs in this channel thx

[whole crypt]

[hollow gust]

personally don't see the point of a sped up BB, they are quite fast in comparison to early game BBs already. Shell just gives more FP

[wind hazel]

it's rupprecht time

[hollow gust]

Grant donation, after you showed me the wonders of 4hrs I haven't looked back

[whole crypt]

I'm only inclined to take the 4G because it drops ship prints lol

[upbeat wagon]

Research help

[rapid shard]

Speaking of rupprecht, How important is her FS5? just got her to dev30

[inland shoal]

Don't take 4h G, yalls 4h G are only good cuz mine are so trash

[hollow gust]

I haven gotten a nice chunk of rainbow gun bp

[whole crypt]

I'm 1 print short of last gun so I'm happier just collecting FS prints now lol

[upbeat wagon]

#1450409447368167564 can somebody help thanks in advance

[wind hazel]

just healing lol. also half the requirement i guess for fp trp buff

[cobalt rapids]

stagger and avoiding shields is good

[hollow gust]

You finished 3rd gun?

[whole crypt]

49 for 3rd gun

which means I'll be generating waste prints once that's done

[hollow gust]

It naturally staggers without hsfcr though no, especially since early CVs have basically no reload

Even then staggers kinda redundant since vanguard has more impact early in

[inland shoal]

I'm getting the feeling you just asked which research to take to brag about your gun bps again

[hollow gust]

I bet some tryhards are halfway through the 4th gun

Rushing weapons is so boring , would rather have the ships maxed first

[whole crypt]

the thing is you don't need a 4th gun

making a 4th one would also mean using another 360 plates

[hollow gust]

It's always about the flex, theoretically you don't need more then 4-5 LA-9s either

[whole crypt]

which is why I stopped at 5

as it turns out now you need 0

[hollow gust]

Lexy powercreep will come , happens every event

[cobalt rapids]

u either need 0 meck guns or 0 la9

[rain bobcat]

[hollow gust]

URDD could also have super ara

[rain bobcat]

im guessing its just top 1 med maybe

unless she saves the CVs and becomes lion 2

[hollow gust]

Bye bye Nahk

[rain bobcat]

all cvs went bye bye after lion release and meck release lol

[hollow gust]

I never liked Sovietrockets

[whole crypt]

is WDP another AMS?

[rain bobcat]

wdym ams

[cobalt rapids]

allen m sumner class

[rain bobcat]

oh. nah she's a fletcher

[cobalt rapids]

thats what a quick google search revealed to me aswell

[rain bobcat]

the most infamous fletcher

[ocean terrace]

she replaced fletcher to carry the torp in loading screen

[rain bobcat]

yeah

[analog tendon]

just like in real life it's becoming faster to point out who ISN'T a Fletcher-class

[hollow gust]

Manjuus's Ship selection is so shit , if ironblood gets the first UR CL im gonna riot

[rain bobcat]

you already know first CL is prob axis because manjuu is axis simp

[inland shoal]

If only there was an easy way to find out

[verbal plinth]

reading smh

[cobalt rapids]

UR CL copium still on the menu

[whole crypt]

I don't really look at EN xwitter

[rain bobcat]

I wanted a CL or BB instead of DD

[inland shoal]

Me neither, I just checked #game-news

[rain bobcat]

can you not read jp

[cobalt rapids]

i realistically dont see the diff between a cl and dd except which guns i have to bother to give

[inland shoal]

Dido class

[whole crypt]

I can but I also was just looking at pretty pictures and skipped the tweet text

[inland shoal]

I wish more ppl read before asking

[rapid shard]

Reading and EN do not mix well

[sick kettle]

how useless are the web charts to the point where the new ur dd doesn't have a single S on it?

[inland shoal]

Pretty useless

[verbal plinth]

always has been

[inland shoal]

I actually made a wiki page on it
At least most of the time S is on average better than B etc.

Within the same hull anyway

[analog tendon]

the fact you say "most of the time" S is better than B....i'm morbidly curious how these web charts are made now

[ocean terrace]

I mean base stat-wise it could be accurate, it's just that skills matter a lot more

[inland shoal]

No it is absolutely not accurate in any way

[analog tendon]

i also realized only now i technically just pinged a mod

[ivory sigil]

Who's dido?

-# the one that had large amount of hotty fanart in certain fanbase site?

[rapid shard]

a ship

/wiki dido

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dido
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dido_µ
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dido/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dido_µ/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dido/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dido_µ/Gallery

Dec 16, 2025, 9:22 AM

[ivory sigil]

She look cool.

And big...

Sort of.

[inland shoal]

I think they give the ship name to an underpaid intern and he bases it on that
Makes sense WDP is so bad then too cuz who in their right mind would've thought her UR

[inland shoal]

Dido class can equip DD guns

[ocean terrace]

I mean she is somewhat iconic, maybe it's the name value that determines her rarity

[ivory sigil]

turn out 8hour of C isnt give any BPs either

Newbie regret 💀

[rain bobcat]

[ivory sigil]

Btw what's this hotty

[rain bobcat]

and guess what, the rewards you got are less than an average g2.5 or g1.5

[rapid shard]

all RNG lol im 6 prints off meck gun and havent gotten a single one in 3-4 days

[inland shoal]

Chapayev
As it says

[rain bobcat]

this is why you should trust approved vets

[atomic solstice]

my mother

[ivory sigil]

i see... so that's her name.... got it....

[inland shoal]

She was pretty good against previous 2 metas

[rain bobcat]

just do gun focus tbh, you should average 0.8 prints a day over the course of a few months

which technically means on average you should get a gun every 3 months

[inland shoal]

8h C is fine iff your other options are bad and/or you're out of coins and you know you'll be gone from the game for at least 7h

[rapid shard]

Yeah i either run Rigging, DR face or fastest reset. RNG just been not on my side

[rain bobcat]

unlucky yeah it happens

[inland shoal]

4h G is also not bad

[ivory sigil]

Thanks
you had a hot mom is your area
But yeah she just for collection for now right?

[rain bobcat]

^

I exclusively do 0.5 dr or rigging>meck face>any rigging>gouden face> g4 > fastest reset

[inland shoal]

I mean idk your fleet, but generally yes

[ocean terrace]

pretty sure she's used against CL (or was it DD) bosses? due to her skill

[inland shoal]

DDs, as I said previous 2 METAs

[ocean terrace]

ah yeah last meta was yuudachi right

[inland shoal]

Ye and Fubuki at home before that

At any rate she's worth raising, but not for a newbie imo

[ocean terrace]

very niche ship for endgame boss min-maxing is how I see it

[ivory sigil]

I see, i just gonna slap myface with her unbuyable skin preview either ingame or in wiki then

[inland shoal]

CL FP is what I see

[ocean terrace]

at what point do I even focus on getting fleet tech? after W13? W14?

[cobalt rapids]

when ure not raising surface fleets for content

[rapid shard]

Once youve pushed campagin to at least 12-4. depends on if you want to try pushing 13+ right away.

[ocean terrace]

hmmm I think I'll sit at W12 for a while

[rapid shard]

I speed ran clearing up to 14-4 personally. now im just raising tech and specfic ships for W15/Bossing

[ocean terrace]

depends how my fleet changes after this event though

[inland shoal]

Fleet tech is really just for when you have nothing else to do

[whole lichen]

any of the meta dossiers worth unlocking

[ocean terrace]

if u care about pvp, jintsu

[onyx flame]

i've been camping 12 for 5 months now after reaching it only cleared 13-1 recently cause i was floating on oil

[rapid shard]

JintsuuM for pvp. Wichita has some uses for DPS

[cobalt rapids]

i camped ch 12 for 1 year

[ocean terrace]

thing is I've been preparing Independence and Sandy for retrofit once I finish pulling this event, so I feel confident enough to take on W13 right after levelling them

[inland shoal]

I camped w9 for over a year

[rain bobcat]

because we're old lol

[rapid shard]

Seeing these comments makes me realize how fast i pushed campaign lol i cleared 13 5 weeks in lol

[onyx flame]

me when the i first played the game

thou i spend like a few month is everyone fav fox mines

[verbal plinth]

7-2 my beloved

[rain bobcat]

I did upto w12 and then did 7-2 mines for months

[ocean terrace]

3-4 mines my beloved

[inland shoal]

Game without auto search was just bad tbh

[rain bobcat]

yes

[ocean terrace]

there was a time without auto search??? how do you live through that

[cobalt rapids]

events are bad i agree

[rain bobcat]

newbies will never realise how bitch of a grind it was every single event

manual pressing for 10 mins every single stage x3 because you needed 3 clears for 100%

and then you have to repeat it for hundreds of times

[ocean terrace]

I manual'd through some opsi nodes before realising I can clear fog and auto but doing that over and over for campaign sounds horrible

[strong tartan]

roon grind in 2019 was hell on earth

[rain bobcat]

I started all the way before even the first ever valentines

[inland shoal]

When was the first valentines? 2020?

[strong tartan]

2019

[inland shoal]

EN started end of 2018?

[strong tartan]

september 2018

[atomic solstice]

real ones had avrora from beta

[inland shoal]

I keep forgetting if it was 18 or 19 thx

[rain bobcat]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

dinosaurs

[rain bobcat]

the og ui lol

[rapid shard]

Side note, Would it be a terrible idea to +11 3 mk6s? Not gonna be crafting a mk7 anytime soon due to focusing on getting AA guns first.

[rain bobcat]

yes its a pretty bad idea

[onyx flame]

35 plate for 4%? boost kinda

[rapid shard]

thanks, im not crafting a monarch gun so they gonna be my light bb guns for a hot min. probably wont get around to making a mk7 for a few months

[ivory sigil]

i wouldnt progress this fast if auto button didnt exist, imagine spending hours and hours in opsi without auto

[wind hazel]

dont worry there wont be many place where you'll be using them anyway

mk6 suffice for opsi

[rain bobcat]

like rn iirc til ch9 its one clear to clear a stage in campaign

used to be 3 clears per stage starting from like ch3

[atomic solstice]

when we get coin-up for pr6 do we get pr7 catchup or is that on a different schedule?

[rain bobcat]

yes we do

[atomic solstice]

hella

[ivory sigil]

Next year/ or during PR9 release probably

[inland shoal]

Luckily auto cane before OpSi
By now even OpSi as it is now is too much of a slog to persistently do to me

[rapid shard]

Any of the PR7 Golds worth knocking out the catchup immediately?

[rain bobcat]

daisen technically but wtver

its basically just mobbing focused

[rapid shard]

What about Bayard?

[rain bobcat]

daisen bayard both just mob or wtver

[onyx flame]

tohka but more AA

[rain bobcat]

bayard is just barrage spam

in hindsight only shimanto is greatly useful in pr6-8

[rapid shard]

Im mainly trying find some decent VGs with damage. thats biggest thing im lacking atm

[rain bobcat]

i mean they certainly wouldn't truly help in ch15

[ocean terrace]

dw Willy D will carry you through W15

[rapid shard]

Mainly for META fights. Im not super stressed about at 15 atm. bulins is gating me on some main fleet stuff anyway and needing some slightly better gear

[rain bobcat]

not gonna help in meta much either

ur want dps+buff not just dps in meta

agir/guam/maybe if willy is good+ply+helena will do you well early

[rapid shard]

Im maxxing my dmg i can do in meta right now due to tech/gear (each bb doing about 250-270k) front line just doesnt offer much damage with the support

[atomic solstice]

twinsies :p

Ive managed to consistantly 2hko and im happy with that for now

[rapid shard]

Im working on Wichita and getting consistent 800-880k on the fight with Agir Helena Eld Sashi NJ and Spoot.

[rain bobcat]

ultimately 2hko is what you will need

[rain bobcat]

kind of doesn't help that all 3 suck piss in light lmao unlucky

[rapid shard]

Yeah but sadly best VG i got atm. gonna try swapping agir or helena out for Tohka once i get her to 120 maybe 125 since i got unzen gun now

[rain bobcat]

nah I meant the BBs

[rapid shard]

Oh yeah they not the best but best i can run till New BBs drop or reruns. i tried swapping spoot out for Oumi but it was inconsistent on dmg

[ocean terrace]

out of these researches, which ones are unskippable as in, if you get it, you MUST do it or you lose out huuuugely

just not sure since they're so expensive

[warped bear]

Spam golds for best returns, reset with low cost Grant donations

Or riggings

[ocean terrace]

I just got a 0.5 Q so

[warped bear]

Research in general is for people who swiming in cubes and resources, so if you're new just spam low cost ones

[strange sphinx]

Imma bet that Lexington 2 will be good at light armor

[wind hazel]

0.5h Q can be a disappointment

[ocean terrace]

isn't that just YorkII

[wind hazel]

0.5H D at least guaranteed some BP return, if not more

but generally you would wanna take 0.5h Q regardless

[ocean terrace]

ah fuck it, I unlocked 12-4 might as well spend some coins

the cubes ones I'm avoiding though

[strange sphinx]

[ocean terrace]

unless it's Mecky then I'll consider it and ask I guess

[wind hazel]

0.5 D takes cube, and it's worth it, unless you can't pity without your stash

[warped bear]

Yeah that's normal. Research is more of an endgame time investment sink

[ocean terrace]

I have 510 cubes, just worried I can't guarantee Guam, then also Feb UR

[strange sphinx]

It is waiting game

[warped bear]

If you aren't chilling at 1k+ cubes you aren't endgame

[strange sphinx]

pray to rngesus

[wind hazel]

it is okay skipping Guam, plus you never know if you'll get her from the free tickets lol

[ocean terrace]

isn't she like top 5 vanguards atm

[strange sphinx]

[wind hazel]

uh, no. she's top 5 for w15, but not top 5 for everything else

[ocean terrace]

hope Willy D powercreeps her

[wind hazel]

Gouden is basically her sidegrade, and is permanent

[strange sphinx]

[wind hazel]

what you want more is laffey2 tbh

[ocean terrace]

and she's free

[wind hazel]

of course, getting guam would be nice too

[warped bear]

Gouden will take you forever to grind to 30 tho

[strange sphinx]

what's the weapon in her Event again

[ocean terrace]

I don't even have faction tech for any ship past PR2 atm lol

[north gorge]

Alaska Gun iirc

[wind hazel]

funny but very unlikely he will want to mlb Guam either, with Lexington and D. and new UR on March Feb

[ocean terrace]

thought new UR is Feb?

[wind hazel]

actually idk LOL

[warped bear]

Just FYI all ships in this game are free just not the dock space. The rates in this game almost don't allow you to not get full collection.

[wind hazel]

lemme check the dates again

yes feb

[ocean terrace]

honestly not my aim for the next year or so probably, just want the best ships I can get

[wind hazel]

i mixed march and may slot

[ocean terrace]

oh I misread, my bad

[rain bobcat]

its feb and may end

[warped bear]

Yeah take your time, catching up on resources should be your main goal although having 500 cubes is okay. But I find 1k is the ultra safe point for consistent play. You can pretty much pull on every banner safely with a nice buffer.

[rain bobcat]

feb has lny, and gem event then UR then end of may is CN anni

[warped bear]

World 12 is already decent gold farming, everything after that is a cherry on top

[ocean terrace]

what's the usual oil spendage on event stages?
in case I need to stock up a little

[warped bear]

Depends on fleet comp and clearing mode

[ocean terrace]

I think I could 1:1 up to D3

but not with Ranger Cassin, my main fleet ships

[warped bear]

Oh your trying to be giga reserved

[wind hazel]

you can start event with 5k oil and still farm enough to buy everything important from the shop

[warped bear]

I just mash full fleets these days

[rain bobcat]

eh depends

[wind hazel]

that is assuming there's nothing to farm

[ocean terrace]

that's throughout the event period right?

[wind hazel]

yes

[rain bobcat]

a lot of gph vets low cost for the most part

[ocean terrace]

god DAL event made me use so much oil for so little rewards

[rain bobcat]

let me tell you this

dal is far cheaper than a normal event lol

[wind hazel]

nobody like those type of event lol

[ocean terrace]

cheaper? in what way

[warped bear]

DAL was not worth farming it was a clear and leave event

[onyx flame]

i just low cost the clear, gonna jsut farm normally

[rain bobcat]

less oil needed for 55k+ points

[ocean terrace]

it was the only oil cap stage I had access to unfortunately

[wind hazel]

less oil but also far less rewards tbh

[warped bear]

You only really farm an event "when it drops gear you need"

[wind hazel]

normal event you get ship drop, blueprints, commission spawns etc

[rain bobcat]

the take of the year

[ocean terrace]

so should I be stocking up on oil?
I have 4k in storage

[warped bear]

I mean if it drops nothing but common golds why bother

[whole crypt]

you farm an event for as many points as you need for shop/milestone
you farm harder if it adds new unique gear that doesn't look shit

[wind hazel]

just have some reserve

[warped bear]

Tfw I never farm gear skins

Just chars and actual gear

You do you tho

[whole crypt]

what gaer skins
I'm talking about new gear that doesn't look shit

like they can add a new unique gear that does nothing and it wouldn't be worth farming

[warped bear]

You do know new gear is incredibly rare these days right?

[wind hazel]

but you never know

[warped bear]

I agree if it's unobtainable outside of the event

Like the ryusei kai we just got

[wind hazel]

they did it with hvar. they did it again with tempesta, though thankfully tempesta ships are shit

[whole crypt]

just because it's rare doesn't mean it doesn't happen
the point is you farm what you need

[wind hazel]

and ryusei kai wasn't the map drop gear we were talking about lol

[warped bear]

Alot of the unobtanium gear we have tho is already in archives. But yeah HVAR F4Fs was the last event I actually farmed copies of

Yes I know

[rain bobcat]

55k thats it

[wind hazel]

60k gang, because i am stingy with bulin

[warped bear]

Imo manju has been kinda stingy with game breaking gear lately outside of research and lab

As of late

[whole crypt]

at least 70 for books

[crimson glacier]

what even counts as game breaking gear

[wind hazel]

hvar lol

[inland shoal]

Stingy with purple bulin

[wind hazel]

i have a lot waiting in the back room

[ivory sigil]

if that really happen i guess i wont bother buying her a Oath ring/ skin outfit tho

[lucid orchid]

How to get that battery

[atomic solstice]

:(

[wind hazel]

wait for it to be added next year

[north gorge]

Wait for it to get added to proto shop

[lucid orchid]

Uwu

[sick kettle]

does every ur events always give ur bullin on its milestones?

[whole crypt]

yes

[sick kettle]

great

[warped bear]

Inb4 farmable gold Fletcher guns

[inland shoal]

Aren't you old enough that you should be done with LBing all purples

[wind hazel]

im younger than cheeky

[rain bobcat]

[wind hazel]

-# and i kinda goofed around on first year

[inland shoal]

And Cheeky has more 120s than me

[wind hazel]

cheeky hard worker 💪🏼

[whole crypt]

try harder

[ivory sigil]

Really? You are right tho
Compare with the unzen rerun event
the DAL is way so generous as a 2nd week player able to clear lv100 map for full oilcap grind

[ocean terrace]

wait fr? holy shit I can mlb 2 URs then

[onyx flame]

it gives 1

[whole crypt]

collabs tend to be easier/more generous because the target is newer players who joined for collab

[ocean terrace]

I have 4 UR bulins, 10k spec cores and haven't finished cruise pass

that's 8 total right

[inland shoal]

Just pull Lexy2 5 times, no need for UR bulins