gameplay-help

[sweet delta]

Because using raffaellos skills at their max extent is just worse

[slow fox]

-# what

[crisp dust]

what can I tell u

[upbeat wagon]

the original question: is raff worth to level 125

[next escarp]

Roon muse good for tanking shells?

[stark quiver]

yes if you plan to take her to harder content

[upbeat wagon]

Will use her for opsi

so i guess

[stark quiver]

shes an alright tank

[rain bobcat]

just use portland

[next escarp]

Nah, I use Exeter. Partland other skill is pointless due to synergy issue

I need someone that block shells

[sweet delta]

What are you cooking

[stark quiver]

[ocean terrace]

nah let him cook

[next escarp]

I need someone that eats shells for breakfast

[stark quiver]

so a shell block shield

[ruby sinew]

is there any war archive worth using the passes on. I'm currently max 60/60 and wanted to know if there is anything worth using them on

[next escarp]

This are all my CAs available at the moment, I don't know who to invest

[stark quiver]

portland is good

[next escarp]

[stark quiver]

exeter is a far worse tank

[next escarp]

Explain

[cobalt gate]

portland is pretty good tankiness wise after retrofit

[next escarp]

Won't argue, just asking. Sorry if I sound rude...

[sweet delta]

@slow fox explain

[stark quiver]

portland has more hp, more eva stat, more luck, exeter's skill is super rng and short duration so its almost not worth to put in the convo, its also the same skill as portland lol

[upbeat wagon]

Are there any guide sites other than ecgc and sushigummy's

[slow fox]

portland has more hp, more eva stat, more luck, exeter's skill is super rng and short duration so its almost not worth to put in the convo, its also the same skill as portland lol

[upbeat wagon]

Not cuz they are bad but for even more reading

[stark quiver]

[next escarp]

ohhh, thanks for clarifying. I haven't started retrofitting them, must invest to Portland then. Thanks friend

[tulip tinsel]

retro unicorn if you haven't

[next escarp]

I have her, she's a life saver for me.

[stark quiver]

exeter has more eva stat than portland after skill, but still not enuff to bring her over portlands hp pool

[next escarp]

I see, thanks for letting me know. I was lvling up Exeter skill at the moment, will change focus to Portland

[sweet delta]

Don't level Portland skills

[next escarp]

The yellow one not good for lvling up?

[stark quiver]

not worth the time and books

[sweet delta]

The benefit is miniscule

[next escarp]

I see, I tallinn good too?

[stark quiver]

shes a better tank than portland
but just use portland because you can get better soon

[next escarp]

Can I use Portland in Opsi?

[stark quiver]

yes

[next escarp]

I mainly use CLs and DDs as of now

To farm lvl 3 threats, I don't want to see everyone suddenly burn LOL

[stark quiver]

portland good enough for you

[topaz smelt]

you can take port thru most of the game

[sweet delta]

Some of the best tanks in the game are DD or CL . And not all CAs are good tanks

[next escarp]

My whole life was a joke, feel free to laugh at me

[stark quiver]

gph indoctrination 😭

[ocean terrace]

what's the recommended adapt for normal arbiter? and how hard is it compared to strongholds or abyssal

[forest palm]

Normal Arbiter isn't that difficult, probably tougher than an Abyssal, but you can just throw yourself at it till it's dead so it eliminates a bit of difficulty, like Strongholds

[undone plover]

203/203/156*
it is easier than some abyssals because u can leave and heal

[forest palm]

203

[undone plover]

but yeah u will not be able to kill in 1 try

[ocean terrace]

except the first stronghold I came across was the self-healing one, so I haven't been able to clear it

[forest palm]

eh...strongholds you can leave and come back...

[ocean terrace]

and that was with like 10 trips to the port

[stark quiver]

i still do that too dw

[forest palm]

no reentry fee or anything, just throw yourself at it till it's dead

[undone plover]

have you tried nuking it with 6x CV strikes?

[ocean terrace]

no but it instantly heals itself at 30% hp

[undone plover]

manual and save 6 airstrikes
then nuke it and pray it works

[ocean terrace]

uhhhh like 3 CV fleet?

would a level 100 saratoga work lmao

I have Enty and Origami as my others

[undone plover]

was it your first opsi month? i forgot

[ocean terrace]

yeah...

[forest palm]

if you're struggling with a Zombie go manual, and hold all strikes and salvos, and once everything is ready you throw it all at once

[stark quiver]

ex type strats

[ocean terrace]

what if it's sitting on 30% hp atm and just heals to 50% instantly at the start of battle

[undone plover]

worth a try if they are level 120
sara not ideal but could work

if not just wait till later in the month when u are stronger

[forest palm]

strong holds need like what 188/188/142 or some shit...

[ocean terrace]

I haven't retrofitted Sara since I'm hoping she'll be replaced soon by Independence or UR CV

I have plenty of resources to retrofit her or Independence but just don't wanna waste it

I'll just keep doing these then to raise my adapt

[undone plover]

yeah I feel like once u have indep sara is redundant
she was notable in 2 META bosses
dealing UR level dmg so she is a very strong CV
but UR still better

[ocean terrace]

indep deals UR level damage?

[undone plover]

in ch15
but I was talking about sara

[ocean terrace]

I thought her main strength was the crossfleet, and being a decent CV

I thought she'd be the weakest CV I have by a good margin but maybe not then

would be funny if I replace Sara with Lexy2

[tulip tinsel]

indep really shines in campaign

[undone plover]

I would argue her main strength is this
2 4x slots at ~150% base efficiency

her x fleet and anything else is a bonus

[ocean terrace]

yeah I have no clue how CVs work other than the type of plane they use

like nano has 9 planes? I assume 3x of the 3 planes you slot her with

[sweet delta]

Not all slots are created equal

[ocean terrace]

oh I see, but having more of TP bombers or dive bombers would make them better suited for a specific battle

[undone plover]

it could yes
fighter slots are great vs light and medium
TB slots vs heavy
DB slots are usually awkward but can be good situationally

this is due to the planes we have available
not an inherent effect of those slots

[ocean terrace]

right okay okay ty

[undone plover]

no worries
I am sure u will get the hang of it
when u get 3 proper bossing CV and start learning to sync them
dont be afraid to ask

[ocean terrace]

oh I ask about every little thing I'm unsure about so I'll definitely be asking that sorta stuff

[warm cliff]

should i use 76mm for this so that i can shoot the all out assault more frequently

[viscid swift]

no, use a decent DPS gun
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[nimble cypress]

What are the best torpedoes to use on I-404? Bidders or G7es? And what auxillaries for her? The ECTL is kinda useless because its update rate has become glacial at best.

[rain vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhvKc4iZsU

[sweet delta]

Update to the video

[topaz smelt]

so how are you guys net pos in c1

im down 300 ap

[wind hazel]

commit to it, be lucky

[viscid swift]

yeah lets just say there's a reason you want to start out with around 1500 AP

you gotta set in for the long term to even out RNG

[topaz smelt]

im trying to not dump all my ap so i can still do meta fights for the week

idk its always been net neg for me over 10k ap

bricked account, bad seed

[true zenith]

how's eldridge without her retrofit item?

[sweet delta]

Pretty useless

[true zenith]

thanks

[rain bobcat]

get lucky

[analog tendon]

How does the Rigging Fortification for META ships work? I see there is a Rigging Upgrade Rate percentage. Does this mean i need to choose how much i want to enhance each of the 2 available stats because once it reaches 100% i can't go further?

[rain bobcat]

I was 1500 consistent last month, while grinding atleast for 2 weeks of that month

[wind hazel]

it's like normal ship enhance, you just enhance until they max out

[warm cliff]

i just got to commander lv. 60, should i start prioritizing operation siren & gear lab?

[wind hazel]

start doing your research academy, keep it as close to 100% uptime

opsi... depends on your fleet right now, but try to finish story up to chapter 4

[next escarp]

Hood still good?

[inland shoal]

Decent starter SR, kinda bad later on

[next escarp]

I see, thanks

[warm cliff]

i am already at ch8, should i push even further?

[ocean terrace]

they're talking about opsi story

[warm cliff]

oh, i see

[ocean terrace]

after chapter 4, your map and shop will reset every month

[edgy carbon]

Is she not maxed? What do I do with the extra blueprints?

[ivory pawn]

She's maxed. Can convert the blueprints to protocore in Shop > Monthly > Proto > Analysis.

[edgy carbon]

Thank you!

[wind hazel]

you cant push beyond 8-4 regardless, because of commander level. go do passionate polaris or universe in unison's SP5 to get better cmdr exp. they have oil cap there

they are under war archives SP stages

[warm cliff]

alright thanks, should i try retrofitting san diego as i lvl up?

[ivory pawn]

Unicorn first if you haven't yet.

[next escarp]

Yep, should be able to use due to good AA

[wind hazel]

not a priority. can delay until you wanna tackle w13

mlb+augment is enough for now

[sweet delta]

Alabama is better, if you're asking about medal shop

[warm cliff]

i already retrofitted her along with nelson and portland, idk abt helena tho bc im currently running, le terrible, and laffey 1

[next escarp]

I got her on my previous pull from unzen event, I thought she good for W12 or higher

For mob

[sweet delta]

Anything works until 12. I wouldn't bring hood to 14+, but it can be done

[next escarp]

I should focus on alabama then

[sweet delta]

You keep asking about ships one by one. It would be more effective to ask given your whole dock and available shop options

[wind hazel]

maybe you have even better BB

[next escarp]

Sorry, I suck at asking opinions

This all I have for BBs, I don't know who's good or not

[sweet delta]

Owari is one of the best gold BBs

And you see Hood is already 3 gold bulins further than Alabama, so Alabama would not be in consideration anymore

[next escarp]

My bad...

[sweet delta]

If you need another BB besides Owari then it may be Kotori or Amagi or a UR ship

or Hood

[next escarp]

I was planning to get Ulrich after completion, should I choose other ships instead?

[rain vine]

musashi

[wind hazel]

musashi

[next escarp]

Got it

[ocean terrace]

out of these 3 in the gear guide, which is best as a BB aux gun?

[sweet delta]

The CL guns are better

[ivory pawn]

Choose the correct row based on the BB/situation, then if it's in the same column it either doesn't matter or depends. In this case it doesn't matter.

[ocean terrace]

got it ty

[next escarp]

I'm about to complete monarch grinding, is she good too?

[sweet delta]

Expensive and will take another 34 days to collect blueprints probably

[next escarp]

My blue prints are at 330 at the moment, is it not enough?

[sweet delta]

She would be similar to Kotori in strength

[next escarp]

371*

[ocean terrace]

did they do catchup on her

[wind hazel]

[sweet delta]

That would be enough, but that means you lost the protocore

But no use crying over spilt protocore now

[next escarp]

What's protocore, are they valuable

[wind hazel]

very valuable in order to catchup on good gear

[ivory pawn]

Stuff you can buy old research gear with. It's valuable when you start to get a boost in good gear.

[next escarp]

Ohh, are they the one used to buy UR prints?

[ivory pawn]

But it's not too big a loss, nbd.

[wind hazel]

the UR gear print on the shop, yes. among other things

[sweet delta]

So Monarch is 4 gold bulins and a few thousand coins cheaper than Kotori for similar strength

[ivory pawn]

Gold prints are recommended first, but you can buy enough prints to get one of each past UR research gear.

[wind hazel]

how did you get so many monarch blueprints btw? did you do research focus series 1?

or 💳 PR1 voucher

[next escarp]

Begginers handbook, plus event store and focus on series 1

[next escarp]

I'm too broke for that

[wind hazel]

change your focus to 8 now lol

[next escarp]

Did I miss too much since my last play

I thought they're still the meta's

[wind hazel]

focusing series 1, or 2 or 3 provide no benefit at all

the ships can be coined, the gear can be gotten via other mean, you're basically wasting time focusing series 123

developing ships from series 1 is not the same as research focusing series 1, just to avoid more confusion

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus/

[next escarp]

Thank you for your effort, your a lifesaver. I'll learn more

[ocean terrace]

as a new player, would you be aiming to get prototype Tenrais from both gear lab and protocore shop?

or would you want to aim for Wyvern in gear lab

[sweet delta]

they use different rainbow materials in gear lab. And I think 1 twin 457 is better than a second tenrai

[ocean terrace]

well I'm looking to make my first gear lab gear at some point soon, just wondering what I should actually be aiming for
and yes I've checked the gear lab guide but still not sure after looking at it

[wind hazel]

get wyvern from gear lab first. then get your first tenrai from protocore, then get 457

[ocean terrace]

so ignore vanguard stuff and AA for now

[hollow gust]

whens the CN stream, that should be sunday?

[wind hazel]

monday

[hollow gust]

monday morning ? like when est

[wind hazel]

<t:1765800000:F>
https://live.bilibili.com/7761331?spm_id_from=333.1387.0.0

[hollow gust]

sweet ty

[ocean terrace]

should I convert these into the necessary amount of SR aircraft plans needed to craft the planes before Wyvern?

don't have any UR plane plans yet tho

[sweet delta]

If you can create wyvern then yes

Then

[ocean terrace]

right but that's what I mean, should I not be crafting anything before wyvern, even if I might have/be getting close to the materials for it?

[wind hazel]

dont craft anything if you can't create wyvern yet, plain and simple. you can save electronics by buying blackburn firebrand from core if you have excess core data, but that's about it

[ocean terrace]

yeah I assume independence would take priority over that atm

[wind hazel]

well, depends on your dock

[ocean terrace]

only decent CVs I have are Sara, Enty and Origami

[wind hazel]

you can skip indep for now then

[ocean terrace]

oh really? I was holding out on retrofitting Saratoga so I can replace her for Indep

do I go for a Breguet then?

[wind hazel]

those 3 are enough for campaign with unicorn

[sweet delta]

We don't know whether next week's event may have independence II or Saratoga II

[wind hazel]

until w13, or even 14 if you are stacked on vanguards

[ocean terrace]

I just thought Indep will come in handy at some point, over Saratoga in the long run
so it might be worth investing into her

[wind hazel]

i mean yes, indep is stronger

[ocean terrace]

pretty sure I have enough retroprints to retrofit either of them, so might as well save it for Indep no?

[wind hazel]

but you dont need her in getting to w12 w13

[ocean terrace]

I guess so, I'll wait and see if the UR event brings good CVs

[wind hazel]

inb4 UR vanguards

[ocean terrace]

to me, I don't see a point putting resources into Sara if I can get Indep who's more useful in both campaign and opsi (crossfleet)

[sweet delta]

Me neither

[wind hazel]

i value getting better gear than getting minor upgrade that make no difference to farming in w12 w13

[ocean terrace]

true, I would get that Wyvern quicker

eh I'll probably ask again when the time comes

[undone plover]

I dont want to promote hoarding mentality
But if u are someone who wants to be efficient
Only use resources when u know why u are doing so and double check with ppl

For example if your main goal right now is farming coin for event
Dont craft anything
Just wait
Then decide
What is your priority
Ch13?
Pushing to ch15?
Getting better bossing ships for opsi?
Just farming tech?
This will make it easier for u to decide what to do next

And again I am not saying dont use resources
Just know why you are using them
This way u wont regret it

[ocean terrace]

mhm, I don't even have the resources to get a Wyvern yet, I just like to know ahead of time and ask so that I know what I'm aiming for and what my next steps should be

I certainly haven't wrapped my head around certain things yet like gear lab and research so bare with me if I ask too many questions

[undone plover]

Yeah that is all good dont worry
But just an example
If you are planning on making stronger bossing fleets
Wyvern might not be the highest prio
Maybe craft 1 ju87-d first
Just an example

[ocean terrace]

see, I'd think pushing campaign is higher priority than bosses atm

[undone plover]

And that is perfectly fine
In that case you can go for wyvern

[ocean terrace]

I'm on the verge of getting commander level 80, unlocking W12 which I should be able to clear (maybe some difficulties)
though I don't know what I'll be focusing on after/during the UR event

Ju87 just seems to be a bit more niche than the Wyvern, in terms of it's only good for bossing

[undone plover]

For me after reaching chapter 12 I stayed there and worked on my opsi fleets
But everyone has different goals

[ocean terrace]

if I'm working on opsi fleets though, should I be focusing on bossing gear?

[wind hazel]

you gotta have the ships first

having ju87 without a slow/freeze would be useless

[ocean terrace]

yeah I'm limited when it comes to ships, which is why I'm praying this UR event brings good ships

at least the DAL vanguards are good enough for a while

[undone plover]

U almost always work on several things at the same time
So dont worry too much
As long as u are not wasting resources u will be making good progress

[stark quiver]

faerlein text walls

i promote hoarding because using shit without any direction does nothing

[ocean terrace]

im hoarding anyway since everything uses coins and I'm saving for UR event

[wind hazel]

a more general approach would be
fleet 1, campaign focus
reach w10/11, fleet 2, campaign focus

use both these fleets for opsi for now
reach w12, expand your options

opsi, make super mob fleet, BB fleet
farm w12 for more options,
opsi, get AVP, start 3rd CV fleet

[ocean terrace]

what's a super mob fleet

[undone plover]

Pretty much yeah
Once u get to chapter 12 your goal is working on shipyard + research + opsi
Unless you want to speedrun clearing story

[ivory sigil]

I done clear all opsi except hardabieter

[wind hazel]

basically same as campaign mob fleet, but with stronger ships

[ocean terrace]

is that a separate fleet to campaign mob fleet? or upgrading it

[wind hazel]

for example, maybe instead of penny, portland, you upgrade them to FDG, Anchorage. just example

[undone plover]

It can be different
Since campaign later chapters need certain considerations

[ivory sigil]

Yeah i think for my opsi abysall i would love to have 3 fleet

My 1 DAL keep had to go back n forth to heal low resolve

[undone plover]

But early on you have limited ships so your opsi and story fleets will look very similar

[ocean terrace]

what's the point of a CV fleet?

[stark quiver]

to not use a bb fleet

[undone plover]

Ships that have similar loadouts have an easier time syncing to each other and working together
And you can stack buffs better
For example kazagumo has a 15% carrier buff
That is better on 3 carriers vs 1

[ivory sigil]

Pls do hardarbeiter they give reward for every 10 or 15% hp of the boss i think

[forest palm]

sometimes it's more effective to use a CV fleet and sometimes a BB fleet

[ocean terrace]

but can't you do that with BB salvos

[ivory sigil]

Meanwhile abyssal is like 25% hp every time reward

[undone plover]

Not sure what u mean
U can sync BB as well together
You can even have mixed fleets
But traditionally we recommended 1 BB fleet and 1 CV for simplicity’s sake

[ocean terrace]

if I have a mob fleet and a boss fleet, is a 3rd CV fleet necessary? especially when BBs are easier to gear?

like I wanna know the point of the 3rd fleet

[undone plover]

For harder bosses it helps
Having 3 fleets to fight is better than 2

[sweet delta]

To clean up when your first boss fleet fails

[undone plover]

Remember not all bosses allow u to leave and heal

[wind hazel]

and you're very unlikely to have multiple BB buffer for 2 fleets

[ocean terrace]

right I get it

[wind hazel]

sometimes even 4th fleet is necessary

[ocean terrace]

so for someone new, 3rd fleet will be a mix of leftovers until they get either a good combo of CVs or BBs or both

[undone plover]

Altho I get what u are saying
When u get strong enough 1 fleet is usually enough
And hard arbiter will need 2 at most

[undone plover]

Yes
If a person somehow ends up with 6 amazing BBs and bad CVs
3rd fleet would be another BB fleet
But it is likely u will run out of good BBs and will have some decent CV lying around

[ocean terrace]

eye opening conversation, thank youuu

is there any point in saving AP boxes or can I just open them all for convenience

[ivory sigil]

no, use them as like they were medkit it is never enough nor ran out

[rain bobcat]

AP regen

[ocean terrace]

oh I see it

[rain bobcat]

u lose 1 AP every 10 mins

[ivory sigil]

Yea if you somehow ranout of AP box then that would be major, tho i have never seen it happen

unless u plan to spam 1000 AP box on 1 boss for 1 hour speedrun which is not possible since 50Rest require 8 hours cooldown

[ocean terrace]

I redeployed my fleet like 4 times in a row when I unlocked opsi, that used a lot of AP

[undone plover]

Everyone makes mistakes

[ivory sigil]

You using 3 BB team rn? Tho Unicorn heal was god tho

[ocean terrace]

just using my best ships + uni (mostly DAL)
I'm impressed you cleared opsi though, I tried strongholds and they were horrible to get through

[ivory sigil]

-# (adapt6) you will get there when the time comes, but if you worry you can buy the potions in shop for faster adapt, they were also sold in akashi

[ocean terrace]

true, only stronghold I tried I was adapt 100

and it's the self-healing one ffs

[ivory sigil]

Wait can i ask, so people speculate the next UR is gonna be the one in USS right?

is there any UR in the past that is from USS and that's still OP in the ranking?

[ivory pawn]

All but confirmed it's USS tbh. There's Guam and Laffey II as some examples.

[ocean terrace]

main fleet wise maybe only Essex and Yorktown II? even then they aren't top top ships

[sweet delta]

transitional ships at the bottom, according to Min. for Administrative Affairs

[onyx flame]

//you want more to deal with the stronghold boss closer to like 188/188/144, got till the end of the month anyway so no real rush

[ivory sigil]

yeah perhaps u get there by the 3rd week of this month (as long as u hasnt anything worry beside newyeareve)

[ocean terrace]

making my way through the coordinates I have right now, I think these are hidden zones

will then tackle some abyssals and hopefully strongholds after

[ivory sigil]

hmm most BB i build so far are only ranked C or some B in some aspect which include kotori / marylane,

[ocean terrace]

that's why im working towards getting FDG

[cobalt gate]

Anyone have a good witcha meta team? Mine is inconsistent

[ocean terrace]

but tbh, won't need better BBs for W12 so I'm in no rush

[ivory sigil]

i havent try to build Nelson yet despite she had a B ranking in Map14mob, tho i really interest in building more BBs

[ocean terrace]

whos your other BB other than kotori

[ivory sigil]

marylane

[ocean terrace]

retrofit?

[ivory sigil]

i learned that from u tho

[ocean terrace]

yeah she's a decent boss BB

[ivory sigil]

all done for now

[cobalt gate]

I feel like just wait for new event

We usually get a bb

[ocean terrace]

idk... there's a lot of speculation about it being a USS CV
but I'd love a BB for sure

Iowa-class if I pray hard enough

[cobalt gate]

Most likely cv ur

But could get a good good bb

[ivory sigil]

I'm scanning the Endgame tier list for any possible BB that had similar ranking to either Kotori/ Maryland to build

if i cant find any, i would had no other choice than build nelson

[ocean terrace]

yeah maybe the SR BBs are good from the event

[ocean terrace]

Nelson retrofit is decent, but honestly I don't think we need to build her right now

our ships can get through W12 fine so

[ivory sigil]

the Blackshooter event had BB that's good too but it is May2025
same as how we get kotori in Nov2025

[cobalt gate]

Eagle kibda lacking in good bb general. I think constellation New Jersey and that’s kinda it?

Kearsage if you count her

[ocean terrace]

any good main fleet really, Essex retro and Yorktown II are the only decent ones for hard content

[ocean terrace]

also they have a document with all the meta ship comps that goes in detail

lemme try find it

[sweet delta]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[cobalt gate]

I feel like eagle tries to do the faction buff so hard but we don’t enough good backrow to make it work

[ocean terrace]

meta chronicles, there you go

[cobalt gate]

Oh thanks

[ocean terrace]

wichita is on page 96 @cobalt gate

[cobalt gate]

Shoot I was checking eagle union. Man feels like the weakest backrow out of the main 4

Hopefully 2 backrow ur then

[ocean terrace]

heard it's usually 1 main 1 vanguard if it's a double UR but I could be wrong

[cobalt gate]

It is but can dream we got a sub last time

[viscid swift]

anything but a bloody battleship at this point

[cobalt gate]

lol I just realized Sakura got full carrier backrow way faster than eagle

I guess we can kinda squint if we include kesarge as a carrier then eagle has 3 carrier fleet

[stark quiver]

as long as its a terrible ship im good

[viscid swift]

I'll take another broken BB over a "bad" UR

[wind hazel]

wont be a battleship... maybe battlecruiser

[stark quiver]

terrible ship means i dont need to oath and level

[rigid onyx]

they're gonna bring our enty meta (ur)

[cobalt gate]

I mean last bad ur was yuddachi to be honest

[viscid swift]

sadly BC design sort of stopped passed the early 30s

[onyx flame]

alaska trust

[stark quiver]

hood 2

[ivory sigil]

i thought dossel META we just grab any team any then spend oil for them to auto it for free coin? reading excel file only help min max the dmg valuation

[cobalt gate]

Maybe essex if compared to current meta

[rigid onyx]

yuudachi was good for the time especially considering how she's good for w14

[wind hazel]

wdym free coin lol

[viscid swift]

Napoli was the last bad rainbow

[stark quiver]

napoli isnt bad tho

[ocean terrace]

is she even bad or just powercrept

[cobalt gate]

I mean napoli does her job well

[wind hazel]

she doesn't improve the fleet

[viscid swift]

Eldridge made her useless one month after she released

[cobalt gate]

I mean if you don’t count yuddachi then it’s drake?

[ivory sigil]

i been auto some DosselMeta and keeping the reward for coin in there 😂 use when the timecome

[wind hazel]

i only remember someone using napoli for uh.. one of the meta, was it repulse? for consistent 1shot

[sweet delta]

eldridge just as consistent but also protecc

[wind hazel]

was it veera or someone else

[stark quiver]

veera yeah

napoli good fokr me\

[wind hazel]

that's legit the only use of napoli, and i havent seen her being used anywhere else after

[stark quiver]

i use her a lot

[cobalt gate]

15-1 farm I guess

[wind hazel]

[cobalt gate]

I forgot did drake get fate yet

[sweet delta]

Drake's fate is to be a gold ship

[stray bay]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RjBWAGW2gNAFgMzSYgnNMA2ReSGCU0AHGQQOz4KaZhI2IBEVZAhl9y8gLoJwpWDAQoATOOIp4xJLhTEwzEjBS16jMuNbtuPfoIgxYtCVMRJIeRONy4dq8rSnFNSMrTad9HXkj4BEGNYaDQSVGlJYjt8AhhsREhKOgYmFO9fP0MhE2hHcSpGAjTEFG1aRiUiLDTKXR99fyCQ2Bii6VKEcTJiiOq3OuJM32aBMECAQmgAOmgqScKOcQAjXCQgA

hello this is the "best" loadout I could come up with, any suggestions for what I should focus on in like gear lab?

[onyx flame]

augment will save her trust

[cobalt gate]

Hmm I don’t feel like that really saves her

But it’s been so long since I used her

[stray bay]

yugioh gx reference wtf (judai's my goat fr fr)

[barren token]

I know Drake is considered the worst UR CA but are there any gold CA's yet who can claim to be stronger than Drake?

[viscid swift]

Roon, Tohka

[onyx flame]

tohka prob ngl

[cobalt gate]

Awesome. And a lot of good hero cards coming out next set

[viscid swift]

Freidrich Karl

[cobalt gate]

Anchormage?

[onyx flame]

seems fine, only questionable thing is suisei, onigiri and maybe ryusei kai depending on where your using it

[stray bay]

do you have any recommendations on what I should try to craft first in gear lab?

[onyx flame]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[ivory sigil]

i think is not worth it.
tbh skipping 1 day of passive coin, that's mean 7k coin gone missing per day

meanwhile the UR would announce like 5 next days aka 35k gold, i think it is unnecessary to skipping passive gold for 300k just to speedrun the UR
You would eventually get 100k coin within week from oil/gold farm, that's even exclude the Retire coin, so i just assume we get like 150k coin per week

So yeah by just last of 2nd week u would able to get the UR with 300k coin and 400 cube.... exclude the event reward/ map reward/ mission reward etc etc

unless they release 2 UR and u plan to get both
that mean u need 800 cube

[ocean terrace]

no, double UR event = 1 in gacha, 1 in shop

usually through event missions and event points

[ocean terrace]

but yeah you get more coins by claiming your passive, I just don't have a need to spend coins at the moment so I'm saving (at 200k now)

[ivory sigil]

so yeah no need to get harsh on yourself like 200k coin in stock, just keep it at minimum like 50k

and keep your oil 8k fulfilled to ready to spam

[ocean terrace]

but I want to pull the UR on my 1st day heh

[rain vine]

theres no point in forcing a claim when you have that much

[cobalt gate]

I mean still takes a while to train anyway

[ocean terrace]

meh, I haven't used xp books for ages, plus I'll have W12 unlocked by then

[ivory sigil]

we had emergency method tho

[ocean terrace]

nuh uh, I'm f2p for now

though if the new UR is good AND has a nice skin

[stray bay]

i can make the ju-87 now and the 155 kai soon, those good then?

[ocean terrace]

also I'd rather just pull the event ships quickly and forget about pulling for the rest of the event
then I can focus on stuff to progress on

[onyx flame]

ehh i only make em if you need em maybe teh 155 kais if you dont got better CA/cl guns
cross check you gearing with this https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

oh right dont forget to read the disclaimer for the quick gear guide

[stray bay]

i can make flapjacks instead of ju-87 and those seem good

[ivory sigil]

u still had to pull 1 per day for daily

[ocean terrace]

lol that's tiny, like you said I'll get 10k a day from passive + farming W12
and event stage grinding

[topaz smelt]

this is what i typically recommend
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/fleetsandgear/gearprogression

[ivory sigil]

also lets do akashi headpat quest, build 10 get 3 in return 70% self-discount by just headpat

[upper raptor]

How to unlock more , I got like 1.5k shards already

[ivory sigil]

click that fog @upper raptor

[upper raptor]

Bruh…, ok ty

[ivory sigil]

will noted that

i got halucinate

[ocean terrace]

I should treat Abyssals as bosses and use Helena and no Uni right?

[ivory sigil]

#gameplay-help message

• Abyssal: (decent) (random)
  • Drop great stuff for GearLab for every 30%-35% hp boss beaten
  • boss require to hit manytime if fleet get defeated
  • you can't return to port after enter,
  • if get defeat middle of fight,
    • (recommend) use other fleet (use the 2ndfleet 1st to discover their weakness)
    • (recommend) use heal box and fight 2mob ship standing outside using side road to recover LowResolve
    • (last recommend) Rest with 50AP (once every 8 hours)

[onyx flame]

ehh i would use all your fleets to smack em unless they got the funky healing one

[ocean terrace]

also where are the hidden fleets again in abyssal?

[onyx flame]

at the bottom, you can access from the sides

[ocean terrace]

and is there a way of knowing the hull type of the enemy before engaging
I assume I use champy for med/heavy and mk6 for light

[onyx flame]

turn off fleet lock and/or just wiki it

[ivory sigil]

use /sirenstats

[sharp pine]

Am I understanding Yorktown Meta's mechanics correctly that using ships that spawn summons give bonuses against her?

[stark quiver]

yeah

[trail dagger]

Why talking about operartion siren, is it better to do all Logger rather than save it up for voucher?

[stark quiver]

not using loggers to save vouchers to buy loggers

[onyx flame]

imo do all of em mats is more important than voucher, thou c2-c3 is kinda eh

[stark quiver]

only noobs thinmk c3 is eh

[ocean terrace]

I'm skipping the blue ones atm

[onyx flame]

c3 logger only drop purple dont it

[stark quiver]

there are cat nodes

[onyx flame]

i mean ig fair

but cat gotta bless you first

[stark quiver]

thats opsi in a nutshell

[ocean terrace]

does the red mean anything in particular

[ivory sigil]

they got defeat middle of fight aka Toll of war

[ocean terrace]

but if my resolve is fine, there's no debuff or anything right?

[ivory sigil]

and you can only heal Toll of war via 50AP rest if u stuck in abyssal

it is easy to solve low resolve with heal box and mob, but toll of war only use it via 50 AP

[ocean terrace]

that's rough

[ivory sigil]

you can still fight boss, but they wont use skill
kurumi might die instant i think 💀

[ocean terrace]

can you leave boss fights before your ships die and save the damage lmao

[ivory sigil]

yes, that's what i been doing if my kurumi died too early

[ocean terrace]

wait you can?

[ivory sigil]

no, the damage to boss is not
the damage to your fleet also not too... so techically... "save from the damaged 😂"

[sweet delta]

if you quit a battle, then the battle didn't take place (except the oil spent)

[rain bobcat]

dont you recover oil too

with like a 10 deduction

[sweet delta]

you don't recover oil

[onyx flame]

You want to clear tolls of war cause they disable your ship skills and reduces their stat by like 60%
You can clear it by the 50 ap command or using the fleet deployment at port to clear it for free every 24 hour

[sweet delta]

for campaign or whatever event stuff, when you enter the battle then it deducts 1 oil per ship.
If you quit, then you don't recover anything

[stark quiver]

ship skills dont work

[sweet delta]

if the battle completes, then it deducts the full oil cost minus 1 oil per ship, so the total cost is the full oil cost

[atomic solstice]

In abyssal, theres a mob node in the corner you can kill with another fleet to restore toll of war

[sweet delta]

/opsidebuff

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

OpSi debuffs for getting rekt
Sinking:

• If a ship sinks, they aren't removed from your fleet but instead go to 5% HP and get a red spinning wrench. This is called Toll of War, and it disables their skills in combat. Disabled skills also includes all-out-assault.
• You can clear the skill-seal by healing at a port, or using Regroup And Rest. Out-of-combat heal items do work on skill-sealed ships, but they won't remove the skill-seal debuff.
  Losing:
• If you lose a fight, the fleet that lost gains a Low Resolve debuff that decreases its stats. Losing more fights in a row increases the magnitude of the Low Resolve debuff (max III). Depending on how you lose, you can skip directly to Low Resolve III.
• Low Resolve gives major stat debuffs. Additionally, fleets with Low Resolve III will refuse to fight bosses. They can fight mobs but be warned - they are also likely to be skill-sealed too. They might die again, immediately.
• Low Resolve can be cleared for all fleets by winning any fight with any fleet in operation siren (win = B-rank clear or higher). It can also be cleared by using Regroup And Rest. Healing at a port will not cleanse Low Resolve.
  How do I handle debuffs?
• The usual strategy in a stronghold is to save your mob fleet and not attack bosses with it. After throwing everything else you have at a boss, take your mob fleet and attack one mob. Win, even if someone sinks. This clears Low Resolve. Then go to a port and heal everyone up, which also cleanses Toll of War. Return to the stronghold and continue to maul the boss. (Stronghold progress will be saved.)
• If this is an abyssal boss, then you can't heal at port, but you can still use heal items. You won't be able to clear Toll of War without Regroup And Rest from an abyssal boss, but there are some mobs if you go around to the side that you can bully with your mob fleet to clear Low Resolve.

[ocean terrace]

well no, I got rid of my resolve debuff but not toll of war

[stark quiver]

then this

[ocean terrace]

also I just lost after regroup and rest, am I cooked?

[stark quiver]

maybe

[onyx flame]

I mean if the rest of your fleet can clear it its fine

[ocean terrace]

idek where my other fleet went, it disappeared

[stark quiver]

go take another mob if u can
in the abyssal

[ocean terrace]

alright restored resolve again

still have toll of war tho

[soft raft]

Bruh just take the L and leave

[ocean terrace]

managed to win

[onyx flame]

[ocean terrace]

yeah but I have nothing else to do in opsi then

my adapts aren't even high enough for strongholds or arbiter

[ivory sigil]

Fought too soon maybe?
Tho since we had plenty of AP box, lets just take pace

[weary edge]

when farming main fleet xp, is it more optimal to have the mvp as flagship

[sweet delta]

1 + 1.5 + 2 < 1 + 1 + 3 in terms of main fleet exp

[ivory sigil]

Hmmm
-# i learned that Champy gun can craft to rainbow... does that mean i should get 2 of it instead of Flandre gun since it cant be craft to any other?
Oops misread

[sweet delta]

where did you learn that

because it's untrue

[ocean terrace]

'next best' =/= crafts into

they probably saw that column and assumed it could be crafted into the gear

[sweet delta]

actually why is 457's next best champ gun with a gain of A, shouldn't it be twin 406/410 or some

@viscid swift

twin 410 with gain S
champ gun with gain C
add note * For campaign

[viscid swift]

Given it's a rather premium item with a premium price tag, the idea was to look at what's the next best reasonable to get option

[sweet delta]

then people thinking it's "A solid upgrade" over champ gun

[stark quiver]

pun intended?

[viscid swift]

yeah lets bump it down to C gain

[sweet delta]

or add note

[viscid swift]

that also works

[rapid summit]

What are the Gear lab priority guns?

[onyx flame]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/

[olive cedar]

What ships has the Air Raid Assistance skill or skills with same effect?

[sweet delta]

Kazagumo, Kearsarge, Hammann II, Ardent (Retrofit), Ariake (Retrofit), Bellona, Benson, Curlew (Retrofit), Hazelwood, Stephen Potter, Yuugure (Retrofit)

[olive cedar]

Thanks bro 👍

[rain bobcat]

kear

[lime vapor]

Do u guys have any ideas to clear through 13-2 and so on aside from leveling up?

[wind hazel]

it's plane heavy chapter, use more CV, good AA vanguards, appropriate level 115~120 on all your ships

[ivory pawn]

What's your current fleet look like? Might need more AA or better ships.

[lime vapor]

I feel like my fleet is still lacking something. I kept upgrading gears

[sweet delta]

w13 is harder than w13

[lime vapor]

Here's my main 2 fleet

[sweet delta]

i can see why

[hollow gust]

yikes

[sweet delta]

i think youre lacking a healer

[wind hazel]

what is this, doc for ant?

[lime vapor]

I know 😭

[viscid swift]

something that'll hopefully be coming to the mini guides section soon TM

[agile patrol]

hi should I 125 BRS or is 120 good enough
she's on my opsi mob

[ivory pawn]

What was said previously about off-flagships in the mob fleet also applies [to off-flagships in the mob fleet].

[wind hazel]

i have my accessible "budget" friendly template for w13

[agile patrol]

oh and saratoga. i assume saratoga is an automatic 125?

[lime vapor]

What would be your ideal fleet then if u have mine?

[viscid swift]

in my defense, this is just one part of a relatively big package

[ivory pawn]

From said small part, it looks like it should say flagships? Unless you're talking about mob off-flag repeatedly.

[sweet delta]

not so mini is it?

[viscid swift]

fair....

[onyx flame]

Imo only really need to 125 stuff that is actually fighting the hard stuff like arbi/meta
I 125 waifu just cause

[viscid swift]

I do mean off flags

auto correct might have been doing some funny things

[ivory sigil]

pls gib me Long island 5star + skin

[hollow gust]

Nah tis more budget

[wind hazel]

[viscid swift]

needs more oaths

[hollow gust]

yeah and im still using uni, too accessible ngl

[viscid swift]

also just going to ignore that coin count

[onyx flame]

Ur uni when

[stark quiver]

its pretty high

i average 5k

[hollow gust]

working on it

[wind hazel]

Æíkø w13

[stark quiver]

what collection % are ygs at
who arent named cheeky

[viscid swift]

100%

[sweet delta]

#al-general

[hollow gust]

99.5%

its basically all reetrofits

[wind hazel]

noob

[hollow gust]

aint leveling those shitter ijn dds

[rain vine]

exp books

[lime vapor]

I feel like i shouldn't have used all of my coins on retrofitting every ships that i see 😆

[onyx flame]

Perhaps

[agile patrol]

very good point!

[true kraken]

How do I get this

[upbeat wagon]

april fools skin for ur bulin

[true kraken]

So next year?

[wind hazel]

might never rerun

[zenith heron]

The problem is that it might not be available next year since the other Bulins' Skins are within their respective April Fools Year...

[past bear]

UR boobulin

[covert sierra]

Is this a good BB gun?

[sweet delta]

it's a good gun for BBs and pretty good for CLs

[soft raft]

Isnt that one of Napoli's guns

[onyx flame]

Donskoi

[sharp socket]

thats a russian gun, napoli has 152s and 254s

[soft raft]

Damn no wonder

[stray crane]

is it next thursday new UR ?

[soft raft]

We've got a livestream link by now right?
I'm assuming Monday morning

[onyx flame]

Cn is 15, jp is 17

[ocean terrace]

yeah mori sent the bilibili one

this one I think?

[stark quiver]

new ur on finals week 💀

[onyx flame]

Who got final on the week before christmas 💀

[rain bobcat]

usa peeps

I had finals in late nov/very early december

[weary edge]

i have one the day the event starts 😭😭😭🫩🫩

does meck want a dd gun or cl gun

or does that vary with what content im doing with her

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[uneven cave]

is there a full list of subs that don't need hull? only know of u101 and aqua

[weary edge]

also how likely is next UR to be lexington II

[stark quiver]

50/50

because its not announced and everything said here is a baseless speculation

[sweet delta]

i think only ectl keeps a full list of unique gear requirements

nvm, they can't have a full list if theyre so outdated

[uneven cave]

yeah because my next question was when they were last updated

but flasher, archer, i404 need hull at the very least, right

[sweet delta]

assuming past me marked all the special movements in REGAL, 101 and aqua are the only ones with a full hull built in. Baracca and da Vinci have 5/8 of a hull built in, they can use or skip the hull

[uneven cave]

ah thanks

[uneven cave]

So if I’m using vinci or baracca, then I can put them flag and skip hull comfortably

[sweet delta]

you can, but that may come with a cost of not having a better sub at flag

[kind needle]

Should I save my 3 UR bulins or MLB Vang?

[weary edge]

do they announce everything the day before the update?

[rain vine]

save for the new UR in a few days

[stark quiver]

theres a livestream

[kind needle]

Damn, my cubes aren't ready yet due to the Date A Live collab...

[stark quiver]

same

[viscid swift]

Save, new UR event next week

[kind needle]

Aight

[ivory sigil]

Anyone theorycrafting?
How good can we expect from our UR?
-# (E.g: Better than PR/DR)
And How worse can we expect too?
-# (E.g: Worse than warsprite UR)

[strange vale]

help

[stark quiver]

it can be anywhere between absolute trash or best UR in game
who knows

[strange vale]

i need guide fleet for killer faster boss

[rain vine]

open a thread, say what exactly youre fighting, and post your dock

[echo vector]

Are vote ballots carryable between phases ?

Or will it expire with every phase ?

[plain saffron]

expire

[ivory sigil]

uh... lets vote for our favorite before it gone

SADGE there isnt collab ship in the vote

[median prism]

Is georgia usable?

[onyx flame]

depends on what you mean by useable but for endgame stuff not really

[median prism]

worth getting and lvling up?

[stark quiver]

There’s like a good amount of better options than her
But she gives really good obtain and level 120 tech stats

[median prism]

How abt seattle

Tbh i just want 100 more points to start getting anchorage

[rain bobcat]

yes because she has nice tech

[uneven barn]

Wanna understand my russian green cat. I just got her but many said she's unusable if you don't have Soyuz (I don't have her). Why? How can I find substitutes for Soyuz?

[rapid summit]

Uhhh why do people react weirdly at UR warspite? Apparently she’s just there but then has the damage of lion and stuff?

[gilded carbon]

For that, they Work, yes

[onyx flame]

less unusable and more not as great cause of this skill which soyuz can help proc as well soyuz buffing her

[onyx flame]

shes near bottom for the ur bbs while having a very heavy investment cost

[rapid summit]

Oh dam that sucks

[zinc hornet]

can someone throw me an opsi fast-clear build for ibuki?

[uneven barn]

Then what are the substitutes for her atleast till I get soyuz

[zinc hornet]

depends what you have

[onyx flame]

tashkent

[uneven barn]

I don't have soyuz's event ships and volga in NP faction

oh and kiev, I don't have her too

[onyx flame]

it has to be an NP ship that can provide slow which is legit only 4 ships
soyuz, tash, pamiat and kazan

that and they have to go off before nakh launchs among other things

kazan just ran recently, and pamiat isnt guarantee so that leave tash as your as your best option but well just wait for a bit more soyuz is rerunning in 2026 anyway

[uneven barn]

I do have Kazan, pamiat and tashkent

Out of three, who is better?

[uneven barn]

I'll get Soyuz during her rerun. But I wanna use Nakhimov because I bought her lewd skin during Black friday

[onyx flame]

prob kazan since you can sync her the easiest but you might get better dmg just by running a better bb and foregoing that part of nakh skill

[uneven barn]

Oh thanks man

[rugged vapor]

Who is good for chapter 14?

[forest palm]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[warm cliff]

what should be my daily routine so i can be efficient with my oil

[ivory sigil]

-# according to https://azurlaneecgc.com/common_resource/ you should able to get 3k7 oil everyday. Please use them all as you will. Depend on your future purposes, you will either use it all or keep for perfect moment
For efficient of using oil to help it min-max exp or coin, please read this as an example: https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins/

[valid forge]

should i start research of neptune or roon after saint louis?

[rain bobcat]

thats assuming max canteen lol

ur not getting anywhere near that as a newbie

[rain bobcat]

roon

[valid forge]

okay

[upbeat wagon]

What is "low level" being assumed here, is it around level 70 or around 100

[ivory sigil]

Since im lv75, my canteen/merchant lv is 9

6k6 coin per day for me

@upbeat wagon for u it should between 6k6 to 7k7

[warm cliff]

Wut does “allied” mean, guys?

[ivory sigil]

Please watch this video for easy explaination

https://youtu.be/dMZgy9GoGss?si=wh7FzWwjqqGxlF9X

[onyx flame]

basically an ships/summons so your full fleet alr counts as 6

[rugged vapor]

Thanks

[ocean terrace]

which ships am I saving General Blueprints for? Both PR/DR

[wind hazel]

usually the ones that you cannot coin, or the one that will bring big impact if you speed up their development

[ocean terrace]

hm, what if I'm doing catchup for a ship, should I use general blueprints on the same ship ever?

[wind hazel]

depends on which ship

[ivory sigil]

If you think u need rai, go for it
Else go for fdg but keep half for tenrai

U seem enjoy jdg but she didnt use tenrai imo

[ocean terrace]

still not sure if I want to convert my FDG catchup prints when I get to her, but assuming I coin FDG, Agir and Anchorage
I should save my DR General Blueprints for Meck then right?

[wind hazel]

you can only save DR8 prints for meck

[ocean terrace]

oh yeah

[wind hazel]

dont forget the blueprints have series tied to it

[ocean terrace]

true, can general blueprints be converted into protocore?

[wind hazel]

if you convert them to dev30 ships yes

[ivory sigil]

Yeah, pick the one u dev30

[ocean terrace]

and there's no limit to how much protocore you can earn from 1 ship?

[ivory sigil]

Just spam it on roon when u dev30 her

[wind hazel]

ye the limit is the amount of bp you have

[knotty jolt]

Limited by how many prints you got

[ivory sigil]

No, basically free tenrai for ppl who play az since the earliest day

[ocean terrace]

hmmmmm

[wind hazel]

in general i wouldnt trade bp for anchorage, for example

[ocean terrace]

I could also do a mix of using my catchups + converting general prints too right

[ivory sigil]

U like anchorage?

[wind hazel]

i would use DR2 for FDG, DR4 for Agir, DR5, 6 on Plymouth

DR7 for nak and DR8 for meck

[ocean terrace]

oh rather than using higher series ones on lower series ships

[ivory sigil]

Yeah that sound doable, for maximum protocore just use them all convert to protocore right?

[ocean terrace]

but if I were to decide to convert it all into protocores, theres no difference in converting them all into FDG and then into protocores
than converting them into their respective series and then converting into protocores right?

[wind hazel]

i dont follow lol

[ocean terrace]

for example, 50 FDG prints = 20 FDG + 10 Agir + 20 Nakhimov prints
purely protocore-wise

[wind hazel]

they all have the same protocore value yes

[ivory sigil]

You only convert into fdg if you are like this

[upbeat wagon]

No no, it says for example 12 1 good for leveling low level ships

[ivory sigil]

"want to dev30 on the 1st day lol"

[upbeat wagon]

my ass used pr1 catchup on roon

[ivory sigil]

Can you guys help me explain the last part????

What they mean the excess???

[woven star]

Hard cap. When number don't grow anyway

[ivory sigil]

does thaat mean if they capped they go straight to the mail????

Probably not

[wind hazel]

i never hard cap so i cant tell

[ocean terrace]

I assume it means that once you go back under hard cap, you can collect the excess that went over hard cap?

so none of it goes to waste?

[wind hazel]

ask lars

[woven star]

You can get for example coins still from chapters but not daily from canteen. That's mean soft cap

[ivory sigil]

Sorry i was mistook it

if u click the bubble when your coin is cap it basically collect until the cap only and keep the excess in bubble

That does happen to us all the time
I misread it go to mail

[ocean terrace]

they're referring to the 'any excess will be returned and be available for collection' part

[wind hazel]

you can't even collect past your soft cap lol

i dont get the meaning of what's written on wiki tbh, it's so confusing.

[ocean terrace]

I thought it meant there'll be an invisible count of the coins and oil that go over hard cap, that's returned to you after you get back to soft cap

[woven star]

Haven't deeply knowledge about hard cap. Ask later. Having 300k coins. Can tell when hit 600k

[wind hazel]

@boreal wagon do you know?

[ivory sigil]

Yea that's why i mistook the bubble, they mean it bubble is the collection

While i mistook collection as storage mail

[ocean terrace]

no I don't think it's talking about Canteen/Munition

[wind hazel]

it doesnt make any sense with the hard cap though, because the coin and oil bubble cannot be collected once you're past your soft cap lol

[boreal wagon]

no matter what it is talking about, it doesnt make sense

cuz collecting anything when you are at hard cap is either impossible or gets voided entirely

[wind hazel]

right? so wiki is wrong

[boreal wagon]

i do think it means soft cap and someone just confused the heck out of everyone by also including hard caps in the brackets but even that is wrong because it doesnt "return" anything it just fills you up to softcap and doesnt claim the rest, and past softcap u cant claim anyway

[ocean terrace]

do you guys know who's in charge of wiki anyway

[wind hazel]

the green people

some evolved into other colour

[ocean terrace]

goblins?

[wind hazel]

no wiki tag for normal users...

[ocean terrace]

what

how important is it to do this cos I haven't been doing it

[onyx flame]

preferable you get started with the lvl 65 one

[ivory sigil]

nvm

so let's continue the coin min max thingy, for a merchant to max its coin it need about 1.5 days

If the speculation said CN would announce the UR on 15th Dec, then surely the best time to be pausing Merchant collection is 13th Dec at half day before dailyreset...

[ivory sigil]

errrr they drop some 🚀 bps, but better let it there
drop some gold, just quite minimal

[onyx flame]

the lvl 65 one is easy enough to clear with 1 sub and you can just skip that every week after to start rolling in gold sub equipment bps

[ocean terrace]

my subs are ass though, haven't put any gear or levels on them

[ivory sigil]

wait u havent watch the vid? somebody drop the guchisama vid pls

[ocean terrace]

vid of?

[woven star]

You can get some aux golden gear parts for upgrading your gears over level 10. So as higher as better

[knotty jolt]

You can blitz it with the tempesta girls

[ocean terrace]

didn't play during Tempesta unfortunately

my subs aren't ass, they just dont have gear and mlb

plus im not too sure what im meant to do anyway

[knotty jolt]

I mean if you're willing, ya could drop 1200 core data on royal fortune but that'd be hella wasteful just for this.

[onyx flame]

all you need is the starting sub to beat the lvl 65 one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxC2Iy4XVfE&t=120s

[ocean terrace]

so I shouldn't do lvl 75?

[ivory sigil]

if you build other sub then go ahead, but i think it is not worth at all

[onyx flame]

anything higher needs more investment which isnt recommended for new players

[ocean terrace]

well I just assumed higher = better for the daily stuff

[onyx flame]

since subs isnt that useful earlier on and you got surface fleet you have to invest into

[ocean terrace]

right I see, thank you

[ivory sigil]

that's mean harder investment into the SR sub u have up there, aka goodbye 200k coin

how u had 3 subs and i only had 1 purple

[ocean terrace]

I guess I'll HAVE to mlb the sub though

[onyx flame]

just watch the video man

[ocean terrace]

I did, my point is I have subs that are better than the starter so should I invest in them instead

since I'll probaby use them in the future anyway

big difference too in terms of rank

[woven star]

It's all question of investment and resources. Best way have opportunity to pass lvl 95. But it's all on your own

[onyx flame]

purple bulins are like so cheap compared to gold ones

[ivory sigil]

-# well, time to goodbye to some bulin. Thanks for your joining with Husky team. It's time to do your part 🫡

[ocean terrace]

I'm fine on bulins, not like I have any ships to mlb rn

[ivory sigil]

bro just say me poor in a pic with over 12+ goldenbulins

[ocean terrace]

I have more SR bulins than Elite

[velvet slate]

is there any ship that can reliably counter the absolute cancer yukikaze+eldridge+laffey II are in exercise? other than using the same vanguard yourself? (which i currently am tbf)

tried, shima, ibuki, z52, anchorrage, jintsuu meta. nothing works reliably

[onyx flame]

#pvp is prob a better place to ask

[ocean terrace]

by the way I have no clue on subs which is why I'm asking, but just based off the sheet rankings I might want to mlb my SR sub over starter no?

I'll still do lvl 65, just don't wanna have to spend resources on a deadbeat sub if I have something better

[woven star]

Imo best way to level up subs just put them in the dorn for a month

[wind hazel]

i'd rather save the gold bulin on better ships than sub that you cannot use becuase you dont have their gear

[ocean terrace]

do I refer to quick gear guide for sub gear

[wind hazel]

ironically, you invest some purple bulin and purple gear on i-58 to farm lv65 daily raid... in order to get gear for your subs

[ocean terrace]

oh that makes sense

[woven star]

Some notes about subs gearing. But no mention abou subs rates there https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/submarine-calculator/

[ocean terrace]

so something like this is ass

[wind hazel]

kinda

[ocean terrace]

in that case I'll just use the starter one

i dont even remember where i got my SR subs from

[wind hazel]

beginner rewards

[ocean terrace]

oh so everyone gets them?

[wind hazel]

yes

did you miss i404?

[ocean terrace]

she was Hakuhou's event right

[wind hazel]

yes

[ocean terrace]

I started on the day DAL event started

[rain bobcat]

[ocean terrace]

would've been nice to have started during Hakuhou event

[woven star]

So best way wolfpack subs

[wind hazel]

then just use i-58 and see where the game takes you, because wolf pack sub isn't the best anymore

not even 2nd best 😭

[forest palm]

you losing nothing investing in I-58...

as long as you can start passively doing your weekly sub raids that's far more important

[ocean terrace]

I don't even have 3 wolfpack subs, only 2 so

[rapid shard]

Well you in luck cause flasher will be part of Guam rerun.

[woven star]

U-96 you can get from medal shop. Idk if it's worth. But can be your 3rd sub

[forest palm]

the problem there is having to fish Archer out of the gacha somehow....

[ocean terrace]

honestly if I get both Laffey II and Guam, I'm not complaining

fuck the sub

[forest palm]

nah Flasher is massive in terms of subs

[rapid shard]

True but snagging her from limited run give him the hardest part of fishpack to get

[sinful relic]

was it 12-4 or 12-1 thats more recommended to get to for leveling ships and PR?

[ocean terrace]

nevermind give me the sub then

[rapid shard]

Personally preference between them

[woven star]

12-1 for exp. 12-4 for coins effectiveness

[rapid shard]

Only minor difference between them.

[forest palm]

you'll get about 45 free pulls either way, and plenty of time from then to now

also Laffey II is free

[ocean terrace]

I have 500 cubes right now and I'll hopefully not have to use them all for the UR event

[sinful relic]

slightly off topic, but good news is ill be able to get the UR, though coins is gonna be a hassle, with how good my fleet is atm, i can prob push into w12. but itll be sketchy.

[forest palm]

either way you won't be absolutely wanting subs till 14 ~ 15

[ocean terrace]

that's fine then, much later prio

probably won't be going for 14-15 for another year

[forest palm]

you'll get there quicker than you think, being prepared for it is another matter though

[ocean terrace]

but do I wanna struggle through it or have all the shiny rainbow ships to blast through it

[onyx flame]

how M do you feel

[ocean terrace]

can the event come any sooner, I want a rainbow ship

[slate blade]

Firstly streams, than event

[ocean terrace]

my UR bulins aren't satisfying enough to look at anymore

also is there a difference between CN and JP stream? in terms of what's shown and stuff

[undone plover]

CN stream speedruns the information

[forest palm]

CN slightly censors its stuff, but no there's overall no difference

[ocean terrace]

guess I tune into JP then

[sinful relic]

question, since 12-1 is good for exp, whats the average amount of matches from 105-120?

[undone plover]

but this is the first time sth like this happened
2 streams very close back to back
so idk what to expect tbh
maybe CN will be like a mini stream?
I doubt they will do 2 streams with exactly the same information

[ocean terrace]

oh fr? I assumed they stream for each of their servers around the same time

[forest palm]

I love the goofy cloud censorship they do

[undone plover]

well the content is the same for all servers
and anyone can tune in to the streams

[forest palm]

just make it look worse in some cases

[ocean terrace]

are there EN streams lol

[undone plover]

the irl secion at the end is local events sometimes so i guess that part u can skip

[forest palm]

only EN anniversary

[remote kernel]

What is better for Yorktown II third plane slot, fighters or bombers?

[ivory sigil]

When will oumi rerun lmao i cant wait to get her

And the Ayase

[upbeat wagon]

Are these 3 subs good enough for 14 and 15

[slate blade]

Oumi in 2 years

[velvet slate]

not even an exageration

[undone plover]

around 207 12-1 sorties with >120 morale and S rank clears
less if the ship can MVP

if u do 17 sorties per day that is around 12 days

[slate blade]

Sadly

[sinful relic]

noted

[undone plover]

depends on the enemy boss armor
YKii wants to fight light and medium enemies
so usually u want fighters

[sinful relic]

my girls are at 105 im tempted to EXP book them so i can get to 120

[onyx flame]

just grind you need money anyway

[velvet slate]

saving books to bring characters to 70-80 for quick integration in a farming team is better use of books imo, cuz you want to farm anyways for gold, xp, medals etc

[upbeat wagon]

only use xp books so they have enough level to not die in farming stage

[undone plover]

this is the first shop UR rerun we get correct?
would be interesting to see what they do with the bunbun vouchers
cuz 1 week is not enough to farm a lot with OG event rate

[slate blade]

Discounts

Lel

[velvet slate]

USS fans will be eating good in the next few weeks/month, 2 double UR events back to back :))

[onyx flame]

my cubes and coins wont be eating good

[wind hazel]

it's ironblood UR CL

[slate blade]

You wish

Especially CL part

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 damn i think i need to xp books momo

[velvet slate]

hoping the event brings 1BB + 1CL if no CL at least another bb (dont care there's already a ton of UR BBs, i love them) . unless im forgetting someone i dont think there's even been a UR CL in a banner since sandy is retro and ply is pr

[slate blade]

Yep. But UR BB... Eh

[late flame]

-# UR submarines x 2 kek

[velvet slate]

would be an utter fail event with 2x subs as far as hype is concerned. like yeh UR subs are nice to have but their use is so limited :/

[ocean terrace]

am I just ass if I've failed lvl 65 supply line 5 times in a row now

and yes I'm watching the video on repeat

[velvet slate]

you could just be underpowered, and if you just are bad you can always retry and improve so not a big deal

[rapid shard]

Is that vanguard or Main fleet?

[wind hazel]

non flag ship

[trail dagger]

that 17 sorties 12-1, is that more that daily oil income?

[wind hazel]

yes, 17 per day is 15kish oil if 12-1

triple the average oil we get a day

[slate blade]

15k?

[wind hazel]

oh i forgot 888 is 3 sortie. my bad

5k oil 🤓

[trail dagger]

[wind hazel]

basically need to spend whatever you gain

[slate blade]

A bit of miscalculation

[wind hazel]

indeed thanks for correcting

[undone plover]

1 sortie
Not 3x sortie

[trail dagger]

I guess still doablee? 3,8k fixed + Commision luck maybe?

[undone plover]

Oh someone corrected

[wind hazel]

yes need to get additional oil from commissions to reach 5k daily

[undone plover]

5k sounds about right when u consider monthly login and weeklies averaged by the days

[slate blade]

[wind hazel]

drue

[rain bobcat]

if u grind hard you'll get 120-125 before you even max 3 skills

[sinful relic]

if only

[undone plover]

How many rainbow books was it for 1 skill 1 > 10?

~14?

[onyx flame]

about 6 and a lil iirc

[tulip tinsel]

that's gold books

[undone plover]

Was it rly?
I thought it was 6 days

[undone plover]

So ~3 days gets u level 10?

Oh I mixed the hours and books

Not bad
Time to stock up

[rain bobcat]

yes 3d

[rapid shard]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[scenic mesa]

Which one is worth buying?

[rapid shard]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[scenic mesa]

Thanks

[undone plover]

Not explicitly mentioned but u want 3x of white shell
1-2 black shell
Then indep maybe if u want a strong mob/story carrier

[rapid shard]

Berguets are also very high value. The wyvern is only real upgrade over them

[undone plover]

Wyvern being better
Cuz the way u worded it might be confusing

[ocean terrace]

3x white shell? I've been told 2 before

[rapid shard]

Yeah realized that after I read it lol hopefully makes better sense now

[rapid shard]

3 for triple BB teams

[undone plover]

Hmmm I wonder why?
Maybe they rec yellow for lion?
2 is enough for campaign
U want 3 for triple BB fleets

[ocean terrace]

yeah I've always heard 2x white 1x black then indep/breguet

[slate blade]

Interesting suggestions

[undone plover]

That is fine also
Breguet and indep is if u want to push campaign
If u want to tackle hard arbiter u might prio sub gear or CV timing gear over them

I would just grab 3 white shells tbh

Well maybe wait gear lab update u never know

[rapid shard]

Drake should be added to that sheet as well for pickup

[undone plover]

The cat?

[slate blade]

Update with aux someday™

[rapid shard]

Yeah

[undone plover]

Probably yeah tbh

[undone plover]

UR shell

[slate blade]

UR reloader

[rapid shard]

Early-mid game and even some late game account wont have a better cat thats as good as drake is

[undone plover]

Unless they lucksacc sth incredible

[stray crane]

Ark Royal better than saratoga ?

[rapid shard]

Different uses, Ark is a slow support and Sara is a campaign ship

[ivory sigil]

just dive and go pass them, 2nd time is already high enough, had u not yet mlb her???

[ivory sigil]

@ocean terrace yeah me too i also thought it was 3 shell
but had you checked this guide? https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/fleetsandgear/gearprogression
they told to had 2 as newbie
4 when you getting Opsi
and 6 when you reach final Opsi boss

[tulip tinsel]

if you stay submerged you can easily clear it

[ivory sigil]

use the best team that u had

but please refer to the Endgame Tierlist,

-# https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=803392514#gid=803392514

especially the Hard Arbeiter column where it highly rating which ship had higher benefit from it

more importantly is how you react to each different boss: please refer to use /sirenstats in #bot-spam to change your fleet's DPS equipment over certain boss Armor

for more in depth, check your fleet building skill from the guide to ensure your team is best in act, sync/desync etc

-# or you can just post your team here (or in a thread) so people can help build a proper accessible team...

[barren cedar]

Is any stage worth completing ?

[ivory sigil]

Divergent chessboard if u need Fleet tech for KMS
or S.P -> Polaris / Unison are the one that had some useful Aux

[onyx flame]

only if you arent at w9 and need commander exp, then you do polaris or if you need IB faction tech chessboard
other niche reason is seyditz for pvp

[exotic wren]

Kronk gun isn't craftable yet right?

[onyx flame]

if you need it from krons you could slap donskoi gun as the cl just to meet the skill req

[woven star]

Wait little bit. Maybe HVARs will appear in WA

[sinful relic]

does unicorn only heal vanguard>?

[forest palm]

after the frist strike, yes

[soft raft]

Only her preload has the backline heal

Honestly it's not like you really need more than that for backline tbh

[sinful relic]

mainly cuz the air strikes when im moving in w11

[terse thicket]

Does operation siren count towards xp for research?

[onyx flame]

just need to pack better AA or change formation to circle

[forest palm]

it would reduce a lot of pressure if she could heal the backline though

[sinful relic]

ohh i havent changed formation yet...

[onyx flame]

ur unicorn trust

[sinful relic]

i have singleline assault.

[forest palm]

world 11 doesn't need AA, what you're likely dealing with is Burn Damage, and Suicide Boats

[ivory sigil]

-# bring yoshino 2nd healer?

[sinful relic]

i mean the air stikes when your moving between battles like ambushes

[onyx flame]

oh that lol i have not seen those in forever

[sinful relic]

every 2 squares istg i get harrassed by them

ambushes rarely appear

they barely damage me but i was just wondering if unicorn heals the backlinetoo

[onyx flame]

your recon might be lacking prob

[ivory sigil]

please build proper AA

[onyx flame]

AA does not affect acv

[ivory sigil]

namely use CV.CVL

[sinful relic]

recon?

[ivory sigil]

Anti-Air stat is AA right?

[sinful relic]

im totallly doing fine

[forest palm]

this is a better explination

[onyx flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Encounters

[forest palm]

basically your evasion sucks

[onyx flame]

get more dds into your fleet

[sinful relic]

so gear. yeah i have horrible luck when it comes to tech boxes

[onyx flame]

gear help but you need dds since they pack a lot of eva on their own

[junior fractal]

Is there any reason why my gear presets don't seem to save? I go into the preset menu and hit save but then I feel like the next time I check the preset isn't there, or a few days later the preset is gone.

Also do presets not save between devices*? For example I set a gear preset on my ipad and then when I open the game in Bluestacks the preset isn't there.

I have ships that I know I set and saved a gear preset for and there's no gear preset saved in the menu.

[onyx flame]

it doesnt save between devices that i can confirm

[sinful relic]

should i change myformation then? i have 10% LESS evasion because of single line

[junior fractal]

not saving between devices makes some sense. I still run into the issue of it not seeming to save on the same device. It's super annoying.

[onyx flame]

depends on how bad your recon is tbh it might not change anything

[sinful relic]

hmm

i stilll have a single team XD

[onyx flame]

at 11? you should start working on a 2nd team already

[sinful relic]

im saving my rolls for the UR im nearly at 300 Cubes

[onyx flame]

doesnt matter, that like 1 ship out of a formation of 6 do you not have anything else?

[sinful relic]

hmm

i have a thread i can show my other ships

[ivory sigil]

Who's reown

someone i should build? the stat in endgame tierlist is all D

[soft raft]

No

[rapid shard]

Only elite i can think of immediately thats worth building is Aurora for EVA debuff when fighting DDs and light crusiers

Not counting Uni and Independence.

[forest palm]

recon value is averaged between your 2 fleets no wonder you're being ambushed

[turbid marsh]

well 3 weeks into game shouldn't be looking at end-game tierlist... but there are some strong ones that you can get very early in the game thats for sure

[ivory sigil]

well i often read endgame tierlist as an baseline to ensure my decision wasnt off-track too much, who know if i suddenly bought Tai yuan as my favorite ship could be suck for early player?
That's when the baseline come into handy... it ensure me not to go too far.

but can should i awaken yoshino from lv120 to 125 ?

it sound so wrong on so many level lol

[rain vine]

probably not

[ivory sigil]

okay i will see the next UR if she taken all my coin then perhaps yoshino would be postponed

ah man weirdest hard11

kurumi and helena had 0 TRP, i end up had to use other

who should i use? (sort by TRP)

wait is there any mainfleet with TRP ??

[wind hazel]

some

easiest solution for you would be using oxytorp aux on one of them. you're still level stuck anyway

[ivory sigil]

ajax solve the trp but not lvl

[wind hazel]

or you could remove jeanne, put sandiego on CL slot, and use another DD preferable IJN DD

or any other DD will work in this case, since already so close

[forest palm]

Aux Torps are an option nowadays

[ivory sigil]

idk , according to stat, Yamai had 325 TRP, Sandy only had 150

[ivory sigil]

lets lvl jeanda and aux torp then

[wind hazel]

leveling up your shiranui and enhance her, that works too

[ivory sigil]

i forgot adding cat

[lucid orchid]

🫠 btw how to do with full cat longe, cannot retire cat

[knotty jolt]

Feed them to other cats

[forest palm]

cannibalism

[tulip tinsel]

you can't retire cat, feed them to other cat

[knotty jolt]

The strong devour the weak

[forest palm]

cattobalism one might say

[ivory sigil]

press enhance and then...

[lucid orchid]

[strange sphinx]

that's the only way to clear your cat storage

it is a small sacrifice for salvation

question, Does the summon of Lala counts as "Summon entity" for YK meta?

[lucid orchid]

u ask me??

[knotty jolt]

A thing said prior is, if it got a health bar it should effect York meta

[lucid orchid]

meta is still early for me

[onyx flame]

if you got momo she's a good one for york meta

[strange sphinx]

my lvl 120 momo is just relaxing atm