gameplay-help

[red sapphire]

It's purple, check below

[wind hazel]

good luck

[sinful relic]

dont have a single one

[wind hazel]

if it's below, then he doesn't have enough blueprints lol

craftable are all at the top, like the octuple

[red sapphire]

Sure, but if he was close he could get some bp from drops

[wind hazel]

[sinful relic]

pulled my 2nd barracude

[ivory sigil]

holy what box is that? Eagle union USS ???

[sinful relic]

this is what unicorn has btw aswell

[sinful relic]

forgor

[wind hazel]

you can +10 the barracuda

[zinc cave]

barracuda is in royal navy tech boxes

[wind hazel]

+10 your mk6 as well

[sinful relic]

been trying, little poor since i 10+ the main weapon.

[ivory sigil]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[wind hazel]

basically you need to start enhancing your main weapons now, can't leave at +6 anymore

[ivory sigil]

fckx

[sinful relic]

yeah ive been doing that, ill repeat a few levels and try to 10+ everyones weapons

is it higher the level the more upgrades i get?

[wind hazel]

uh, wdym

[sinful relic]

like the higher the world the more i get of the higher rarity enhancing items for gear?

[zinc cave]

yes but the curve is rather gradual compared to the content difficulty

[wind hazel]

uh i think around chapter 10 you start getting gold techbox, but the plates are roughly sameish. maybe 1 or 2 more ish

[sinful relic]

i can do 10-1, should i just repeat that?

[wind hazel]

at least that's what i gather from wiki lol

yeah if you're having difficulty

[zinc cave]

yeah just farm the highest level you can do comfortably

[sinful relic]

got it.

[rapid shard]

Between Hiden and Drake gun in protoshop which should I grab first? Or is it a "doesnt matter choice"

[agile patrol]

hi im having an issue
how do i get T3 general parts :((

[rain bobcat]

hinden

[agile patrol]

nevermind i have 560 universal parts

[zinc cave]

oop you said drake or hindenburg, go hindenburg

[rain bobcat]

drake gun is like 10% better on light but most enemies will be medium/heavy

and for light... unzen gun

[rapid shard]

Yeah I know they basically the same almost in performance. Or should I hold off for LA9?

[rain bobcat]

I would

[versed forum]

is it worth it to farm fleet tech for subs?

[rain bobcat]

depends on u

I don't give a fuck about subs personally

[versed forum]

need to spend my coins almost cap

[rain bobcat]

I just spend coins on augments and upgrading random shit for fleet power

[zinc cave]

dont take that as concrete advice

[wind hazel]

semi liquid advice

[scarlet cosmos]

is mainz in 2025 bad :(

[rain bobcat]

not good

[zinc cave]

but cute

[agile patrol]

which gun do i use for saint louis? twin 203 mm Mle or triple 203mm MkX?

[zinc cave]

the twin 203mm mle is the better HE gun of the two

[agile patrol]

thanks

[forest palm]

you're talking about the BL 8" Mk X Prototype and the Mle 1931, right?

[rapid shard]

W14 Fleet help.

[agile patrol]

these things

[forest palm]

answer doesn't change

[agile patrol]

amazing

[ivory sigil]

does abysall allow me to leave to repair? or it is better to rest and digest ?

[onyx flame]

Cant return after leaving

[forest palm]

typically there's 2 mobs that spawn if you take the back path out of the abyssal arena which will help with the low resolve, but you can't leave and repair

rest and regroup works

[zinc cave]

Regroup and Rest should work for Tolls of War debuff from being sunk

Same with Low Resolve that you get for losing a battle, winning a battle will also resolve this

[ivory sigil]

Like jesus, that's abyss4

[rapid shard]

#gameplay-help message

Just so it doesnt get lost

[rapid shard]

Honestly would highly reccomend waiting till end of month to worry about your Abyss clears. Your fleet will be in a much better place to clear them instead of not getting full rewards now

[ivory sigil]

I cleared it after 1 toll reset

I claimed some stuff that boost my adapt too

[ivory sigil]

How? I was able to meet those dud outside arena but dunno what are their purposes
We fought 1 and use item to restore hp?

[rapid shard]

Yeah you fight it to remove the red triangle debuff that prevents you from fighting boss again

[zenith heron]

Niche or bad?

[small quarry]

Aside from Unicorn and Saratoga, who is "reasonable" enough to be in the main deck... I have Prince of Wales, but it's on commission... Kotori has already reached level 100, so I want to level up another one.

[warm latch]

just keep using kotori

[nova burrow]

So just to make sure (again):
To get the UR weapon bps it is the best to do witch research?

[west mural]

What's the word on these guns, any recommendations

[wispy cosmos]

niche ignore good

[warm cliff]

what's the call to arms event about

[tulip tinsel]

some ships get more XP (20%)

[tulip tinsel]

What UR gun you want

[warm cliff]

so we will get a limited banner this upcoming major event?

[tulip tinsel]

soon new UR banner

[nova burrow]

Mecklen, im at 44/50 and im getting like 2 bp per week 3 if im really lucky

[tulip tinsel]

Mecklenburg gun bps only drop from PR8 researches

[nova burrow]

Ikr

[undone plover]

Are u focusing on gear research? Or trying to get ships to dev30 first?

[nova burrow]

Mixed tbh, focusing PR8 ofc

But currently focusing on the guns

[tulip tinsel]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[ivory sigil]

[tawny dirge]

any tierlist for the latest collab ships?

[tulip tinsel]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/466085633551761430/1447586649235259494

[gusty olive]

How good is Warspite Retro with augment on hard content?

[rain bobcat]

NJ level so basically usable but worse than every other UR BB

[gusty olive]

So also worse than Vanguard?

[rain bobcat]

that's if you consider harbiter and abyssal "hard content". if I was to be completely factual, hard content means w15 or META and she's dogshit there

[rapid shard]

#gameplay-help message

Any input appreciated

[rain bobcat]

I would say yes

[gusty olive]

yeah, im faction fleeting bs
So it's either QE, Lion and Vanguard or QE, Warspite and Vanguard...

[rain bobcat]

QE is not it mate

[gusty olive]

non-negotiable

cus if it was, I'm using Warpite, Lion and Vanguard

[rain bobcat]

have fun sucking in all content ig

well you will probably still clear because lion will save you

[gusty olive]

I have the generic UR comp in terms of OpSi anyways

[rain bobcat]

anyway just use vanguard

[small quarry]

The experience points required to level up your account are the same in all locations that use oil barrels, or in specific location that gives more experience points.

[gusty olive]

Lion and Vanguard?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[rain bobcat]

more ships used in a fleet and harder stage give more

[woven star]

Lion, Vanguard and Trafalgar ar good composition in this light meta fight. Not sure Warspite can replace Vanguard but everything can be

[rain bobcat]

w14 like 40 per fight or smth

[rain bobcat]

mrlar if ur lurking has formi not been fixed

[atomic solstice]

what happened to the emergency repair thingy in campaign

i stg it used to be a thing now its always empty

[hollow gust]

Cause monthly reset

[atomic solstice]

not opsi, campaign

[rain bobcat]

[atomic solstice]

am i crazy?

[rain bobcat]

you only have that with ARs otherwise its 1 daily

[whole crypt]

1 free daily

also if you need to use it regularly you probably should be fixing your fleet up

[rain bobcat]

you should never be using it anyway

at most ur fleet should survive at 1hp in any situation when farming

[atomic solstice]

i dont even get 1 per day

[rain bobcat]

are you sure

[zinc cave]

Emergency Repair Kits are from ? mark nodes

[rain bobcat]

it only pops up when ship is like <10% hp

[zinc cave]

You get 1 free ship revive/heal per day

Those two are different

[atomic solstice]

yea that one

[zinc cave]

You never get this one for free, you have to find it from ? nodes.

[rain bobcat]

that fucking thing

I even forgot that existed it's been so long

[atomic solstice]

wild

[whole crypt]

if you need to use any of these repair things you need to fix your fleet, period

[atomic solstice]

I dont

im just wondering what happened to them

10% megauseless

the revive was nice tho

[valid forge]

there are 4 modes of auto search so how to swap them?

[soft raft]

Huh 4?

[zinc cave]

Not sure what you're talking about, did you mean Threat Level or something?

[valid forge]

wait a minute

[tulip tinsel]

you click the boxes

[woven star]

4 modes? As close as I know 3(?) fleet formation. Anyway

[obtuse shadow]

You can have 2 of this if you use vestal

[valid forge]

Looks like it works only if there are 2 or more fleets in battle

[strange sphinx]

ah the long lost ER, When "?" is nowhere to be found in higher levels

[tulip tinsel]

.

[valid forge]

Which boxes

[tulip tinsel]

When you have 2 fleets in and click role tab

[knotty jolt]

The roles tab on the right side prior to entering the stage

[valid forge]

Okay

[uneven cave]

should implac be using/avoiding tenrai in slot 2

[forest palm]

better off using TB for Imp

[uneven cave]

thanks, also should rumey be using a skyraider for light, or just 2x hvar

[woven star]

depends on synch and other two ships. but TB almost always better

[woven star]

synch, boss, mobs... which content?

[uneven cave]

opsi bosses, no sync

[woven star]

idk. hope someone help. i'm not a fan of skyraider unless for synch with DB companions

@forest palm#gameplay-help message any ideas?

[red sapphire]

You can use this guide without much hesitation for equipment if you are not syncing. What's the fleet if I may ask? https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[forest palm]

HVAR are more effective imo

[uneven cave]

so basically suchi reckons skyraider

ig i'll go try both

[red sapphire]

On Flex slot yes, probably you want to use HVAR on slot 1 anyways

According to the guide

[wary saffron]

How do I finish this without spending 2 days of my life

[ocean terrace]

by spending 3 days of your life

[wary saffron]

Very helpful thank you

[uneven cave]

they mean that quite literally

[wary saffron]

I know I figured

[ocean terrace]

getting to 12-1 would help, for the exp

[wary saffron]

What if I spend those dark blue chips

The speed up process

[red sapphire]

It's better to analyse them for Protoshop currency

[uneven cave]

You'd rather convert them into protocore for better gear, it's better longer term

[wary saffron]

I hate my life

[ocean terrace]

don't worry I've been doing Roon for a couple days now and that's the only thing holding me back

[uneven cave]

Say that to everyone who grinded everything from pr1-8

[wary saffron]

Good to know I’m not the only idiot that’s suffering

[red sapphire]

I developed Mecklenburg but didn't even start Roon

[wary saffron]

I spent those chips on saint louis bc I felt like it( that was weeks ago)

[ocean terrace]

how'd you manage that...

[red sapphire]

Yes.

[uneven cave]

11 is fine, because that's where the exp jump is
12 is obv better for xp ratio and chance of chip drop, but in the grand scheme of things, if you can't reach w12 then w11 is fine for pr grind

[ocean terrace]

oh fr? would that be 11-1 or 11-4
cos I'm on W11 right now

coin/oil wise 11-4 seems to be a lot better than 11-1

[uneven cave]

I personally prefer x-1 for higher marginally better xp to oil ratio, but x-4 does have better coin to oil ratio

[ivory sigil]

Nah im aware that fleet tech wont help you grind exp for them, maybe stick with War Archive

[ocean terrace]

I'm saving coins for the event, might as well do 11-4, thanks for the advice

[ivory sigil]

I spend too much time in opsi that i end up had nothing else to do in opsi beside hardest stuff

[ocean terrace]

that's good tbh, now you have the whole month to improve your fleet before finishing opsi

[red sapphire]

Do you have plans to progress?

[haughty skiff]

12-4 grind using 3x iron blood vanguards; ideally one of them gets MVP, and all 3 are above 120 morale .

if you're not at chapter 12 yet then you shouldnt bother with shipyard

[woven star]

Btw how good Tenrai against single target bosses? Cos in general use for Fritz against L/M/H bosses DB slot sounds better. They have even faser launch time vs Skyrider

[ivory sigil]

1 month for a f2p to progress isnt ideal. Being focus in DAL team which made the fleettech feel out of place

Tho i still following a plan someone told me in #1445637185918468096 message
(Tl;dr: stick with Highest research for those PR/DR8 char) (plus rerun of laffey2 and etc etc)

But the big trouble is coin is always empty so i not sure progress
Even Research thingy are not able to get those character BPs
So i quite unsure if i ever had chance to get 1 PR after 5 months

[analog tendon]

Me, grinding the 2M exp for Neptune with only a lv 100 Amazon: Vietnam flashback intensifies

[uneven cave]

full DAL team at 1 month? did you make that choice yourself, because that sounds very coin and purin heavy

[haughty skiff]

depends on the armor type, this chart should give you a answer;

TBs / Fighters > DBs for single-target bosses, but it depends on what you have available

[woven star]

I know but I talking about general use opsi bosses when you don't like to swap gears against every bosses. This guide good when you fight against meta bosses or guild bosses or you know which boss armor type against you

[ocean terrace]

wdym you're not sure if you'll get the chance for a PR?

[ivory sigil]

The DAL team is just act as a foundation, Kurumi and Tohka is good defense anyway
I had huge gain and resources upon using them after 3 weeks.

Meanwhile to progress W13+ need certain SR/UR niche character and gear
Which DAL team didnt provided

[ivory sigil]

Being empty out in coin forced me to research Basic/gear

[ocean terrace]

but you can do PR1 for now, don't need much fleet tech for that

[haughty skiff]

there isnt really 'general use' for bossing planes, since it's so dependent on the armor type and if you have a slow*

fritz's DB slot is also a Fighter / TB slot so just refer to the gear guide for that.

you can disable fleet lock and see what every opsi boss' armor is, then just change your gear. it's all also on the wiki

[ivory sigil]

You remember i select Pr6 for protocoin handbook right? There isnt other way beside i had to coin Flandre when the PR6 is coinable, to use her ASAP with the hope of maybe she will be useful for my 3rd BB

Just as planned

[haughty skiff]

you dont 'need' any specific characters to clear W13, you just need AA & a healer (Unicorn).

W12 is the best general farming chapter, you can just farm 12-4 for both EXP & Coins and not run out

[ocean terrace]

yeah once I get to W12, I'm planning to gather more gear and resources before pushing campaign again

[ocean terrace]

I mean you could just do the PR1 ship development for now, and finish PR6 later

or else you're doing nothing for shipyard for the next 5 months as you said

[ivory sigil]

I see, i will see if #1447544444785004545 can handle w12 normally or not

[ivory sigil]

Yeah St louis was desperate need Exp from Eagle union iirc
Farm which map should be ideal for now?

[wary saffron]

I’m commander level 56 ;-;

[haughty skiff]

War Archives -> Universe in Unison, it has accessable oil caps that you can use to farm commander exp (SP5)

[wary saffron]

I love u no homo

[woven star]

Heh. It doesn't work when you have over 20 bosses at the end of month. Thx for overpowered URs when my heavy fleet kills everyone. If not work second bb fleet helps

[ocean terrace]

well leave the exp for now since you're using DAL ships, just push campaign and worry about vanguard exp for later
do the other development missions

[ivory sigil]

Hi commander level 56
Im commander level 71

[haughty skiff]

just wait until W12 before you bother with farming EXP for Shipyard; it's a lot easier later on

[haughty skiff]

current chapter ?

[wary saffron]

Hi commander level 71
I’m commander level 56

[ivory sigil]

Gated in W10

[ivory sigil]

Yeah i was wonder if i could farm EXP dev that way

This doesnt mention war archive so idk

[woven star]

No I'm just lazy and old to swap gears against every boss. Unless arbiter or meta

[ivory pawn]

It counts. Consider it under Main Campaign or Events.

[ivory sigil]

Cool

[ivory pawn]

Probably the latter, they are technically old now permanent events.

[ocean terrace]

shouldn't he do Polaris for now? for the EVA aux

[haughty skiff]

oops i mixed up the names

[ocean terrace]

I think it'd help his gear a little too

this is his fleet as of now ^^^

[haughty skiff]

@wary saffron farm Passionate Polaris, i mixed up the two fanservice events; this one has a EVA Aux as the 60x clear drop

both of them have decent auxes, but the eva one > hp one

[ivory pawn]

The EVA aux is a bonus, if you get it great. You're there primarily for the oil cap.

[haughty skiff]

yeah, that was explained earlier

[wary saffron]

What I didn’t get it

[ocean terrace]

just clear all the stages in Polaris, then farm the final stage

[undone plover]

did anyone tell them to flag BB

[haughty skiff]

War Archives -> SP -> Passionate Polaris
Farm SP5 for the oil cap so you can get more commander exp without bleeding oil in campaign pre-W9

[undone plover]

also kurumi should tank afaik not the twins

[ocean terrace]

well they were told to put Tohka as main tank

[ivory pawn]

Tohka's an acceptable main tank too, but Kurumi's better there if the levels aren't disproportionate.

[ivory sigil]

Just a gear compound and not really a team, i always priortize my Tohka as tank and Kotori BB as flag

Footage here: #1447541820195213396

[haughty skiff]

it's two different people as well as a fyi

[haughty skiff]

@wary saffron Do you understand now, or ?

[woven star]

No matter how good Kurumi and Tohka are once you'll get hard stage with trp stats locker and...

Anyway at least we got some good dds from medal shop and some last events

[uneven cave]

is there a list of subs that don't need hull

I only know of u101 and aqua not needing one

[red sapphire]

Do we know how less dps does Experimental compared to Tenrai? Suchi guide sets Helldiver as 2nd option after Tenrai but I thought Experimental was a Helldiver upgrade

[heavy crag]

should you scrap your purins? i think i no longer have any1 need retro or lb up
soon

[stoic forge]

Yes

[ivory pawn]

Might as well finish the last couple LBs first.

[stoic forge]

Is this the best torp to get

[red sapphire]

Yes but you can get it from gold boxes as well

[stoic forge]

No

[onyx flame]

it 'technically' is but its deadend upgrade for just 20 more avi stat

[stoic forge]

I just opened 31 and got non

[ivory pawn]

That's just RNG.

[red sapphire]

It's a 15% rate of gold and has to be the surface torps, but It can drop

[red sapphire]

I see. Not worth It then

[stray crane]

how about the UR one

[onyx flame]

which the quint mag? not really worth the mats

[stray crane]

do we go for the UR one or stay with gold ?

[red sapphire]

Slightly better, you can use golds safelly

[undone plover]

here is a list of planes by dmg if u want to crunch numbers

this is expected hit rate of bombs vs a large hitbox enemy

it is a cool read
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BombSpread

[stray crane]

should i swap to ju87 ?

[undone plover]

last table also accounts for diff avi scaling of planes which is a can of worms u dont want to open

[red sapphire]

Oh this is great, thank you. I can't see the experimental... Is It there?

[undone plover]

rule of thumb
mobbing = parallel torp
bossing = converging if u have a slow/stop (which you should otherwise just use BB)

[red sapphire]

Oh wow thanks. I will have a look

[onyx flame]

a skypirate?

[red sapphire]

You can use Bréguet or the Barracuda you have there

[onyx flame]

they alr got the skypirate might as well use it

[undone plover]

it has the exact same loadout as the helldiver so I guess they didnt feel like including it

[red sapphire]

Colorblind filter I have hit hard, didn't recognise Skypirate lmao

[woven star]

This damage already included hit rate? I mean 50% of some damage is the same 100% of another?

[red sapphire]

Oh, I see. Thanks for the research

[undone plover]

it calcs for physical hit rate i.e where the bomb lands
it doesnt account for hit/evasion check

[stray crane]

so stay with skypirate ?

[undone plover]

so yes rng aside this is expected average results
it explains it all but too complicated for my brain

[onyx flame]

the only upgrede after is wyvern

[stray crane]

for real need one more

[undone plover]

check if u have selectors

[stray crane]

i dont

[wary saffron]

Yh thanks

[undone plover]

did u already buy this months?
also there is opsi exchange shop have u already used up vouchers?

[stray crane]

yeah i m done with opsi shop

[undone plover]

this shop has blue files which can give 1 UR selector each

these files

[onyx flame]

they added a new one

[undone plover]

maybe I am just lazy and forgot

[stray crane]

i dont have enough ticket

[onyx flame]

nah a new one got added, mine was cleared out and i just check and i got a new one

[undone plover]

pray for cats to fish it for u then
or wait next month

[woven star]

Sounds like Skyraider best in slot at any case

[tulip tinsel]

When

[undone plover]

middle boss also gives 1 selector
did u already fight her?
central map scary boss

[onyx flame]

prob from last patch

[stray crane]

now i trying to lvl my iron blood stuff so i can unlock fdr

[onyx flame]

just mlb some ib ship

[stray crane]

lvling this rn

[undone plover]

eugen is not rly worth 2 gold bulins
u might have other options
check medal shop or farm war archive

[onyx flame]

no commons or rares?

[tulip tinsel]

just mlb purple

[ivory pawn]

How close are you to dev30 AvP?

[stray crane]

half maybe

wait nvm

30k gold

[ivory pawn]

So what, 20 blueprints?

[stray crane]

yeah

i can wait couple more days

[ivory pawn]

Just buy half the remaining blueprints tomorrow and the other half Wednesday, and then you can start FdG.

Alternatively, MLB Z19 and Z20.

[stray crane]

after i get fdr i should be able to go for agir

[woven star]

Having Anchorage?

[stray crane]

no

[violet grail]

Might be better to go AvP before Agir then if you cant do anchorage no? cause you want to be coining 1 DR and 1 PR ship at the same time.

oh nvm u have her

[stray crane]

they both gona have the discount ?

[violet grail]

yeah for pr and dr the discount is separate

[stray crane]

okay i see

[brave rover]

i just 3 star'd all of ch 13 how painful is 14

[violet grail]

Theres new mechanics introduced (concealment) and battleships that target your backline and tankier suicide ships

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/

[analog tendon]

Why does the guide to protocore suggest to have any 3 combination of the 2 SR main guns? Why specifically 3?

[violet grail]

So you can have a x3 BB fleet if needed for specific bosses
I think its mostly an opsi thing.

[haughty skiff]

do you not have Gneisenau & Scharnhorst ?

You need 3 MLB Iron Blood Main fleet ships to actually grind the EXP; Gne & Scharn are Elite BCs that give 85 IB Tech each upon MLB

[analog tendon]

If i'm leveling ships in 12-4 using the 2x rewards should i go for full clear of every enemy fleet, or just go for the boss once it spawns?

[ivory pawn]

As always, straight to boss.

[stray crane]

i m gonna use avp roon and rupprecht for the exp

[tulip tinsel]

1 main fleet 2 vang, those 3

[ocean terrace]

how much of a priority is 3 starring normal stages? I've just finished W11 and they're all 2 stars, should I farm 11-4 or work on 3 starring?

[tulip tinsel]

juicy gems

[ocean terrace]

on lower chapters I'd 3 star them asap since they don't have oil cap anyway, but after W9 I've been unsure

[haughty skiff]

You need 3 Main fleet. Roon is a Vanguard

You should go to Divergent Chessboard and get Gne or Scharnhost, then MLB them instead of Prinz. That'll give you a third Iron Blood Main-Fleet ship that is usable

[stray crane]

okay

[tulip tinsel]

3 star → gem → more dock space

[haughty skiff]

just rush to D4 and farm until you get one of the sisters; use 1:1 fleets until you have the D4 oil cap (Unicorn + Roon)

[woven star]

Roon expensive for oil... no dds?

[brave rover]

if im making w14 fleet would eldridge be better in boss or mob?

[woven star]

Vote for mob

But useful in bosses too if retro ofc

[brave rover]

hmm if im following the budget mob and my saratoga isnt 120 its kinda doomed

[woven star]

Lack of dmg/heal/AA?

You can use FdG for mob against suicide ship. Eldridge for protection and SanD for AA and dmg

[brave rover]

thats what i was gonna do but i looked and she is lvl 67 :C

[woven star]

Otherway Eldridge for slow in boss fleet

What other ships do you have? Or just leveling her

[brave rover]

my 120+ bb's are new jersey, richelieu, warspite the rest are below

ive got a thread where i posted my doc i could @ u if u want to take a look xd

[woven star]

I think doomed not only Saratoga

[haughty skiff]

@ me in the thread

you dont need double healer if your vanguard is tanky enough, so it depends

[tulip thorn]

15-1 FARM

[cobalt gate]

almost done with fp, what is the stat to focus on next

[forest palm]

Hit and TRP if you're talking about vanguards

[cobalt gate]

ok

[stark quiver]

how to make level 12 matsukaze survive in 12-1

[viscid swift]

don't take damage

[stark quiver]

[forest palm]

use xp books

[stark quiver]

she exploded

[kind slate]

What’s best gun for musashi

[haughty skiff]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[orchid jacinth]

Guys Any advice for beginners

[ocean terrace]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

give it a read

[weary edge]

w advice?

[orchid jacinth]

Also when do u unlock limited banner?

[ivory pawn]

From the start, there just isn’t one currently.

Next one is expected 12/18 ish.

[weary edge]

and it's gonna be a UR event (99% sure) so save your cubes

[orchid jacinth]

Oh okay

I just got a ship called LA terrible is she ok?

And another one called kiev

[ivory pawn]

She doesn’t live up to her name thankfully, but you’re better off saving your SR bulins for now.

Same for Kiev.

[orchid jacinth]

What should my lineup be I have
Z23
Universal bulin
Indianapolis
Vincenzo
Kiev
La terrible
Unicorn
Hu pen

And some other 3 stars

[viscid swift]

Beginner fleet is listed here

[orchid jacinth]

I don't have the ships listed there

[ivory pawn]

Then what’s stopping you from picking up the ships from the Guild shop?

[viscid swift]

it tells you how to get them

in the section right before starter fleet

[orchid jacinth]

Oh goodness I am sorry I didn't see it

Ok i followed the formation starter for the other slots should I just put my already leveled ships or the SR ones?

[viscid swift]

what have you got to work with exactly

[viscid swift]

stick to one fleet for the time being

and you know you can refresh the guild shop for 50 tokens right so grab Helena

[ivory sigil]

I think you need to check Endgame tier list to check your other Ship too, cuz even if they are leveled 100 but underwhelm skill, they still worse for future content/end game content. Check their name in the Excel list

If they are in Vanguard slot, check their name in VG Sheet and Ctrl F their name via find tool
Same thing if they are in Mainfleet slot, check Main Sheet

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[orchid jacinth]

Okay tysm

[spice phoenix]

are the ning hai-class cruisers able to do late-game content or useful tech? i’m considering scrapping

[viscid swift]

end game tier list would pretty useless for them right now

[viscid swift]

no but they are CL reload tech which isn't the worst tech

[spice phoenix]

thank you

[viscid swift]

as always though I do not reccomend retiring unique copies of ships

[ivory sigil]

-# I know but it at least get the gist for them to know what UR is recommend and slowly learn the baseline. Even if they just peek 5 second and check nothing they would still call it as a small progress
unless they are having read issue

[viscid swift]

the end game tier list would not tell them which URs are reccomended

[ivory sigil]

Tbh gear guide is the best for newbie rn. They are indeed long and hard to understand at 1st but with it we can avoid badly mistake
Cuz resource for upgrade 1 gear like Aux could easily empty their wallet
(Even me could also)

[orchid jacinth]

Where should I place her?

[viscid swift]

she replaces suffolk

[stray crane]

lol first clear dropped her

need 2 more points

[rain bobcat]

endgame tierlist is not too helpful for ch13 and below

because the stuff you can get away with largely varies

[ivory sigil]

i mean it is the only source i could believe rn, it is highly reliable even for a newbie like me to had high hope to build Sandy

also avoid not to wasteful and start build a cute and funny team

[ivory sigil]

gibe me pls

[ocean terrace]

I mean surely this is worth buying right?

[ivory sigil]

OMG that one cost like 20k GOLD for 5boxes and you had it with 2k5 ??????

[ocean terrace]

I've avoided buying anything from the normal shop but this looks too good to pass on

[weary gust]

If you get a team cata from it sure.

I buy cubes, red books, purple aux plates, and occasionally dorm food from normal shop all the time for coins.

[ocean terrace]

yeah but I'm saving up for the event + not at W12 yet

[abstract nimbus]

Managed to pull this somehow in someway, is this good?

[ivory sigil]

Bro i LITERALLY spend 5000k for 1 box like that and still feel not enough and u say u skipping 2k5 for 5 box like wtf?

[rain bobcat]

[ivory sigil]

good af, for midgame player i really need her

[rain bobcat]

pulling in heavy/special isn't good, and getting vanguard is also a useless pull

[ocean terrace]

lmao I didn't say I'm skipping it, just asking here for confirmation

[rain bobcat]

musashi will always be the priority for pity with shinano after her

so eitherway ur atleast 8 pities away from mlb vanguard

and non mlb vanguard is very shit

[weary gust]

Don't do builds outside of events except for once per day light pool.

[ivory sigil]

pls open it immdiately i want to see what golden gear it drop

[ocean terrace]

nothing good lol

I don't think there are many gear in techboxes that would upgrade my current gear other than gear lab upgrade stuff and a couple gold gears

[stray crane]

some research take gear boxes

[ivory sigil]

only purple gear boxes i think
unless i was desperately search for hydraulic or fire extinguish i wouldnt bother open it nowaday

[weary gust]

I used to open all my boxes and sell the gear for coins when I was newer and still needed coins constantly and the gear in the boxes was not worth anything to me anymore.

This was long before you could open more than 10 at a time and it went straight to sell menu Xd

[ivory sigil]

i should about 1 or 2 months for u to get a fully rainbow gear, meanwhile for us newbiie it is perhaps only 1 gear since we are gated by lots of restriction

I didnt even to continue the Handbook for locked myself in PR6, now i need to had 1 PR6 girl to unlock it

[weary gust]

What's the unlock condition for the story segment for this Memories in Echo event? I already got 1k points and it's stuck at 3/19 for the story.

[stray crane]

u gotte click the gray area

its said click to unlcok the story

[weary gust]

Well that's unintuitive. I thought it meant the fog would go away once you unlocked the next segment.

[weary gust]

Not that you just ... click it. Why even have it there.

[ivory sigil]

but what good about sagarota?
why everyone is building her despite i dont see any special guide said she need to get ASAP like unicorn treatment or sandy for w13 thingy

[weary gust]

Saratoga is good for mobbing. She's not uniquely recommended because there are lots of good early mobbers and usually any random event ships can fill the role below w14.

Whereas Unicorn is one of like two main healers in the game and the best of them.

[rain bobcat]

very large area damage

[sinful relic]

honestly do not wish to use saratoga, im fine with Nelson.

[ocean terrace]

Saratoga is a CV... Nelson is a BB

[ivory sigil]

We are fine with 2 BB, the 3rd BB better be an UR lol

But yeah i think the December UR wont be...

[weary gust]

Doesn't really matter what you use before w13, game is so easy that anything leveled with decent gear will clear it fine. W13 is the first world that even slightly cares about your comp.

[whole crypt]

where best to farm for common BBs

[ivory sigil]

Tbh my old 7 years AZ old friend was shock to read the newbie guide said no farm fox lol, his old days were like spending months and months for that map

[stray crane]

i think its one of the lvl grinding map

[rain bobcat]

why would he be shocked

3-4 has always been a shit map even before oil cap

[ocean terrace]

pretty sure you only farm it for the fox sisters

who aren't great ships

[sweet delta]

According to my sources, akaga used to be in the top meta

[whole crypt]

2017-2018

[hazy hatch]

What happen to the new comer support campaign? I stop playing like a year or two ago came back lost my acc and now I’m just restarting.

[atomic solstice]

hard cap for coins is 300k?

[oblique canyon]

Which is fleet tech is more important for carriers, reload or accuracy?

[rapid shard]

RLD first

[woven star]

600ig

[viscid swift]

that was a limited time event

[whole crypt]

600k

[hazy hatch]

Oh rip

[whole crypt]

is it that thing with the XP boost if you're below lv80

[viscid swift]

no it was the broken campaign that allowed you to retro Unicorn day 1

[woven star]

AVI tech for CV is nice. idk how really important rld for CV. how many CVs can have 4th launch in 80 sec with max rld tech? except Fritz...

[whole crypt]

oh the special shop thing?

[viscid swift]

yeah

[whole crypt]

damage stat tech is always nice but the scaling is less significant

[viscid swift]

alone it doesn't but can certainly help with other factors

[whole crypt]

the thing about reload tech is it's not only about 4-launch setups

timing differences like these can add up

or this

especially if you're trying to line up buffs or some shit

[woven star]

as I know only with max rld BBs can have 4th main gun salvo
CV rld more about synch between BB and CV.... ok maybe for some specific synch between few CVs in one fleet for lower difference of plane launch

[whole crypt]

like I said, it's not only about 4-strike timings

[woven star]

that's why I ask. I can understand same for BBs... almost +30% damage... for CV it's diference 69.3 sec and 65.60 sec......

[whole crypt]

it could be a buff window you're trying to meet, or it could also be a window of any particular gimmick or stop time on a boss

[woven star]

ah. ok. in this point of view i understand... about bosses

[whole crypt]

also having more RLD doesn't hurt, if it happens to be too fast for any of the above reasons you can tune the tech bonus down

but not having it is not having that option at all

[woven star]

25 ships with 120 just for 3.7 sec difference... it should be a real reason ig

[desert tapir]

About to toss Hakuhou
Into 12-1 for exp grind as an off flag. Does she need any special consideration or will the standard mob fleet configuration work?

[woven star]

Imo doesn't matter in this condition. Maybe Tenrai (for her skill), helldiver/tenrai, parallel TB

[flat fractal]

Any recommendations for retrofits I should go for? (Bonus if sakura as i'm grinding xp for shimanto lol). Can also include any common/rare ones that might be worth it. I have a lot of the important ones already like uni, indy, sandy, etc.

[digital pivot]

If you wanna go for retros for the ships you already have leveled up (and in general), Warspite (plus her augment) and An Shan for sure, if you want some Sakura retros, Ayanami and Shigure are fine, and retros you can come back to once they're leveled up more are Nelson, Glowworm, Fu Shun.

If you want 100% one of these days you'll need all of them of course lol, but imo these are the ones you should prioritize. :)

[rapid shard]

Hwah Jah is one of best supports for W15 if you want to plan for future.

[flat fractal]

Thanks! Got it. I've basically just been farming events and 12-4 for coins/unit levels (p sure I'm strong enough for W13/14 but haven't used the effort to attempt yet). Mainly just prioritizing building out my ships and lab research so trying to get retros out of the way.

[ivory sigil]

why is that, there isnt any rating telling her she is D in W15 ?

[hollow gust]

cause thats D in using her in the actual fleets

[ivory sigil]

oh, is there anywhere we can see the support thingy ranking or it is just mouthly rumor ?

[rapid shard]

W15 Support fleet is something thats not listed on that. One of the reasons why you cant just use that list as a end all be all list

[hollow gust]

you will know what you are doing when you reach it, all you want are 6 fighter CVs

[rapid shard]

Also its mentioned in the notes for her

[hollow gust]

you want to max illustrious class ships anyway for fleet tech, they are more then sufficent 6x figters CVs too

[ivory sigil]

does this mean the only way to get her is hope?

[rapid shard]

Special build pool only right now from the look of it

[lyric flume]

What’s the best way to grind for vanguard xp

[rapid shard]

For PR ships? run 3 of same faction in 12-1/12-4

[whole crypt]

not having Hwah Jah is far from the end of the world you won't really bother with her till late game and even then she's fairly optional

[lyric flume]

I was running 12-2 why 12-1?

[whole crypt]

if you don't pick her up through an event build by then just deal with wishing well later

12-1 is very slightly better XP/oil and easier

there's generally not a whole of reason to do your grinding in -2 or -3 unless it's for a ship drop

[flat fractal]

What's generally a safe level I should dorm/book my ship to survive 12-4 farming, like 90-100?

[whole crypt]

depends on the ship, gear, presence of carries and crossfleet

90 is a fairly safe line for good ships if you can gear them

bad ships might want more, if you have carries can start lower

[rapid shard]

Depends on full fleet setup and how well they are geared. I started with Belfast Javalin and Glowworm all around 75ish with no healer and they survived 12-4 no issues

[flat fractal]

Aight i'll start at 90 and see from there. Lab xp farming really is a pain lmao

[whole crypt]

just leave it as a long term goal

you can definitely grind faster than PR ships get added, you can take your time with them

[rapid shard]

That was with 2CVs aroud 90ish and Nelson around 90ish but i have them geared pretty well

[ivory sigil]

just do polaris if u dont have exp book

[alpine musk]

huh cool, I dont remember having this cost limit thing before

should I just full send 3 3 formation if I want to grind XP for PR ships instead of running cheap vg/main ships like erebus/phoenix/etc

[rapid shard]

If you can do 12-1/4 polaris is not worth doing

[ivory sigil]

i'm chap10 gatelocked by lv72

[rapid shard]

Yes on Oil cap maps (W9+) always do full fleets

[whole crypt]

9-1 exists

[rapid shard]

W10 is better than polaris

[alpine musk]

nice, no more headache trying to figure out a cost effective comp

[rapid shard]

you only grind polaris if you want the item or are commander level blocked from W9

[whole crypt]

9-1 is also easier and better XP/oil than 10-1, the jump doesn't happen until ch11

[ocean terrace]

11-1 seems to be the most efficient in terms of XP/oil

[whole crypt]

short of some strange event shit it is the higest XP/oil in the game
we do still recommend grinding ch12 instead because it's generally easier to handle and drops chip/aug stones

[zealous tree]

so i js pulled ulrich von hutten is she good

[whole crypt]

first of all you really shouldn't be pulling on a banner that UvH drops from

[rapid shard]

Not really and all URs are basically useless until MLB

[zealous tree]

oh

aw man

[whole crypt]

she's not really worth spending bulins on over newer URs and maybe some other older archive/rerun ones as they come along

to be fair she might seem a lot better even without LB compared to other early game BB options

[zealous tree]

wha

[ivory sigil]

aka: i would love to build her if i dont have other UR BB

[rapid shard]

I can say from personally using her at 0LB, Maryland at MLB without retro was double her dmg

[hollow gust]

You realize we are gonna have a UR event in like 2 weeeks right?

[wind hazel]

10days

[hollow gust]

Is a single rainbow ship event right?

[soft raft]

Who knows
could be double

[wind hazel]

could be even triple

[cobalt robin]

where am I gonna get that many bullins

[fair lance]

Just pull dupes(Don't do that)

[west steeple]

will there be a new banner after next maintenance?

[fair lance]

No, the one after

[west steeple]

What is the cap for coins?

[fair lance]

600k

[soft raft]

Actual resource caps are 600k coins and 25k oil

Any number that isnt that is your "Soft cap" which means you cant claim resources from the HQ buildings once you reach that

[ivory sigil]

Shouldnt the next UR having bigbody or smallbody?

[zealous tree]

i just started the game yesterday ion know much

[hollow gust]

do not roll, save as hard as you can

[zealous tree]

oh

[clear harbor]

URs good. If low on cubes (as you are likely to be just starting out) save for UR events.

[zealous tree]

aight

tbh im just priortizing story and js figuring shit out as i go rn

[clear harbor]

If you're looking to save cubes, you typically build 1 light build a day and leave it at that. You use 1 cube, but you get one cube back, so you end up even. Any other cubes you earn in the meantime will put you in positive gains.

[cobalt robin]

well you don't have to save for long since new UR is in 10 days

[ivory sigil]

Yea we expect the next UR to be powercreep other 1 or most earlier UR
But i think dev is starting to be generous? For the most recent collab, every char is very well use

I even maxout Yoshino so you guys dont have to jk lol i simp her for 1 decade already

[zealous tree]

i see

[cobalt robin]

She will at the very least be good, I don't think it will be another lion

[clear harbor]

Lion is one of the best BBs and was released a few months ago.

Basically, they're saying they expect the UR to be good, but maybe not the best in class/slot.

[ivory sigil]

Yea her dmg from someone in my guild shocked me

[zealous tree]

oh
ngl i had to google what BB meant i know jack shit about ship terminology

[clear harbor]

Oh yeah, hold on.

[ivory sigil]

I mean whatever UR they give i would still roll anyway

Not the UR Sub

[clear harbor]

Common Ship Type Abbreviations
CV: Aircraft Carrier
CVL: Light Aircraft Carrier
BB: Battleship
BC: Battlecruiser
BM: Monitor (a type of heavy gunboat)
CB: Large Cruiser (Battlecruiser/Heavy Cruiser hybrid)
CA: Heavy Cruiser (Cruiser, Armored)
CL: Light Cruiser (Cruiser, Light)
DD: Destroyer (Destroyer)
SS: Submarine (Submarine)
AR: Repair Ship (e.g., Repair Ship)
Thank you Google AI summary.

[zealous tree]

i see i see

[clear harbor]

BB = big gunships in your main/rear fleet.

[ivory sigil]

Idk the priorty in strength

But as a newbie i only see BB > CV> CL > DD
-# i know i would be roasted if i dont explain this is just a newbie assumption since everyship role had its usage and benefit on certain map

cuz i even see a team with 6flaglooking type that obliterated my team with 10000 million of fireballs

Her name is San Maritini or something

My team was like 80% win chance and then all a sudden she shooting fireballs like i was 300 Spartan soilder

[clear harbor]

Well, ships serve different roles. The recommended starter fleet has good mix of hull types anyway.

BB, CV, CVL, CA, CL, and DD.

[ivory sigil]

Does we need to clear everything in OPSI?

I clear everything and the items in my opsi storage slowly gone.... is that a wise choice or a bad choice

[clear harbor]

I beieve so. Your storage inventory resets anyway.

[tulip tinsel]

should be mostly empty by the end of the month

[onyx flame]

yea, always use up loggers and ap boxes before reset, the mats is more useful then vouchers anyway

[clear harbor]

I am bad at OpSi.

I save for the last few days and forget or IRL comes up. 😩

[ivory sigil]

But if i clear it they wont be convert into voucher

[clear harbor]

the mats is more useful then vouchers anyway

[onyx flame]

you get vouchers from excess coins/exchange tokens anyway

[ivory sigil]

How much is recommend

I been spamming it for my ship regen

[onyx flame]

for what vouchers? enough to buy all of this assuming you can clear them

[ivory sigil]

Opps
Her name is Sao martinho
https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/2/2b/São_Martinho.png

Yeah she shooting fireballs on me like i was touching the wrong redbutton

[onyx flame]

If your losing to tempesta in pvp, your pvp fleet just isnt strong enough

[ivory sigil]

Yeah i had clear most of them
The last node is Abyssal so i think it require 1 Rest or maybe

[ivory sigil]

No i did win like 90% already, their vanguard is nothing to be worry

[ivory sigil]

They use 6 tempesta iirc
Lv120 all 6

My team was basically #1447544444785004545
With exception of using Unicorn and Laffey for lvl wise

[rapid shard]

Is Wichita META next up for dossier?

[fair lance]

#gameplay-help message

[covert sierra]

Does bullins also take docks space?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[desert epoch]

Any way to quickly complete the exp mission for Ship Research?

[onyx flame]

grind 12-1 with 3 ships that is need

[desert epoch]

No 12-1 yet

[onyx flame]

then ngl ignore it for now and push to chp 12

[desert epoch]

Welp time to grind my ass off

[stray crane]

looks like my unicore reach max exp will i still get the exp for the lecture hall ?

[chilly birch]

What roles do dev30 Mecklenberg and dev30 Gouden Leeuw take and how do they compare with the other top ships?

[onyx flame]

meck is top anti heavy bb, gouden leeuw is basically a guam sidegrade iirc

[rain bobcat]

meck is the best medium and heavy dmg dealing BB outside of lion and gouden is less tanky than guam but has better everything else

[chilly birch]

Cool thank you. For Meck which is the best gun for her?

[onyx flame]

follows the same as an bb loadouts, depending on what your fighting

[chilly birch]

Can you send me a link where I can find those guides?

[desert epoch]

Btw why 12-1 specifically?

[onyx flame]

do read the disclaimers
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[onyx flame]

efficient oil/exp rates and its easy enough to drag low levels ships to level

[chilly birch]

This is great, thanks for your help

[desert epoch]

I see

[trail dagger]

This hermit arbiter is hard eee, my main actually died faster than vanguard

[desert epoch]

But exp gained does not scale with level right?

[rain bobcat]

I wonder why.....

[desert epoch]

I mean like every ship gains the same amount of exp right?

[onyx flame]

yea, flag gets 1.5x and mvp gets 2x

[near cargo]

I'm sorry but what do Ammunition ship do besides the extra ammo? I never use one

[rain bobcat]

nothingin particular

[eager mulch]

still no UR helena or amagi-chan?

[onyx flame]

doesnt amagi chan exist alr?

[eager mulch]

what’s cheeky up to

[fossil vale]

Is there any way to turn purple bulins into gold ones?

[stray crane]

no

if u want u can retire em and trade in the medal shop

[tulip tinsel]

just retire blues and buy from it

[viscid swift]

non zero chance we get Helena 2 this UR event....

[eternal moth]

So many original ships they can use, especially in USS fleet, I'd prefer to see new ones, but I know that's probably not going to happen.

[sweet delta]

What are Helena 2's specs

[eternal moth]

The next Helena was a CA

[whole crypt]

double the damage debuff but half the proc chance

[sweet delta]

is formidable aug still broken?

[eternal moth]

CA-75, served in the Korean War.

Although apparently there was a Fargo-class CL cancelled in 1944, so they could use that as well

[weary edge]

is perseus worth building

[eternal moth]

Do you have Unicorn? If so, not particularly

[weary edge]

yeah and aquila so

[fossil vale]

Boise META looks cool as hell
She worth using?

[eternal moth]

Not really

[weary edge]

what abt volga, i also dont have her, ik she's from kronshradt event but idk if those units r in perma banner yet

[eternal moth]

Krohnstadt's event is perma, as evidenced by her being in the UR pity.

[weary edge]

yeah i see that, but i was looking up perma banners and didnt see her so idk if wiki is outdated or smth

[eternal moth]

This is Volga

[weary edge]

okay i see, but is she worth using

[eternal moth]

She's pretty good in chapter 15 IIRC

[weary edge]

is she worth using over aquila and unicorn tho

[eternal moth]

I seem to recall her being preferred over Aquila

[rapid shard]

Aquila is very very good for second healer for W14-15.

[weary edge]

using budget gear rn

[rapid shard]

Could be wrong but pretty sure Volga is just next best option for secondary healer if you dont have Aquila

[weary edge]

does the extra xp from the xp boost from the prelude event also count towards pr development xp farming?

[onyx flame]

good time to get us ship xp research

[halcyon nymph]

Is she good?

[weary edge]

she has a weak slow and buffs other np dds, she’s not bad from what im seeing but dont take my word for it

[clear harbor]

It takes 200 AP to enter a stronghold in OpSi. Does it cost 200 AP to reenter if I leave?

[onyx flame]

no, its free entry after

[rapid shard]

no, once you pay to enter it doesnt charge more to leave and come back

[clear harbor]

Phew. Thanks

[ivory sigil]

🔒 yes. for basement

What should i pick for research? Cognition that use 5k coin for 5 hours? or Select Nothing and go for Coining instead? (Assume it is PR coinable, not DR)

[weary edge]

depends who the cognition is for

[sweet delta]

cognition for who? coining who? why do you need to choose

[weary edge]

are your projects not pr8 focused? if it’s a coinable no point in spending coins on a project when u can get more bps worth by just coining

[west steeple]

Who should I get here? I'm lacking a DD ship

[weary edge]

kazagumo

[weary edge]

also if u havent already, get eldridge from merit shop and retrofit her

[onyx flame]

only get eldridge if you have her retro item

[ocean terrace]

retrofit item is limited

[weary edge]

oh right, forgot about that

[ivory sigil]

im in broke state, so the quesstion is kinda dumb sorry... since PR6 had yet to be coinable, i guess it is an assumption that just don't waste 5k coin on a random PR6 rn, but what if they were PR8 DR ?

[weary edge]

then 100% go for it

[west steeple]

I dont see her on my merit shop

[weary edge]

it rotates, but dont bother if u dont have her retrofit item

[onyx flame]

before you even buy her make sure you have her retro item

[west steeple]

Is the retrofit item still obtainable?

[weary edge]

nope

[ivory sigil]

4months ago iirc

[onyx flame]

you have to wait till next year en anni prob

that or when it gets added to spec core shop

[reef bane]

i just got shinano, where would she fit in my fleets?

[ocean terrace]

well you need her to be mlb to use her, same for musashi

[rapid shard]

She would fit better in your boss fleet. but dont use her at 0 limitbreaks. same with Musashi being 0LB

[reef bane]

oh

i only have one UR bulin

[rapid shard]

Save your UR bulins. new UR is coming in like 10ish days

at 0LB majority of Blues and purples at MLB with out preform Sashi and Shinano right now. just keep grabbing dupes from pity when you hit it of Musashi first till shes MLB then start getting dupes of Shinano.

[reef bane]

oh shi

[sweet delta]

3 star Musashi is Musashit

[rapid shard]

@sweet delta with torps doing manual, would Shima torps or the gold Iris one be better against light armor for overall dmg?

[reef bane]

lowkey i think i could feel the team being weaker ever since i switched to musashi from mlb richlieu

[onyx flame]

sashi is worth using ur bulins on imo but i wait till you have 4 bulins to mlb at once and wait for dec ur first

[onyx flame]

i mean your musashi is missing at least 2/3 of her dmg at 0lb so idk what you expect tbh

[ocean terrace]

any ship that's not mlb is weaker than an mlb ship, no matter the rarity (I'm sure there are weird exceptions)

[reef bane]

fukkk should i js go back to richlieu

[desert tapir]

I'm still not sure what I'm doing with Arizona META. If I post my dock may I please have help with putting to gether a one and done fleet?

[ocean terrace]

no need to panic lol, just put your gear back on your old one and use them
you'll eventually get enough bulins to use those shiny strong URs dw

[reef bane]

yea i wanna be part of the UR club

[ocean terrace]

I do too trust me, I have 6 UR bulins ready to be used atm but I'm holding myself back for the UR event

pretty sure I can get 2 more this month too so might be able to mlb 2 URs this month

[reef bane]

how tf u get six UR bulins

how do you get UR bulins actually

[ocean terrace]

honestly no clue, I think protocore shop, cruise missions and commander handbook? maybe homecoming missions had one too?

[rapid shard]

Just takes time. you can get about 2.5 a month from all sources

Specialized core, Cruise pass mainly

[reef bane]

yee i got mine from specialized core

[onyx flame]

you buy them from spec shop
it cost 4k spec cores per bulin
you get 5k spec core from play a month plus another 3k from medal shop
giving you 2 ur bulins a month if you play
cruise pass give a ur bulin every month and ur events give 1 ur bulin

[rapid shard]

Dont buy them till your going to use them FYI they will take up dock space for no reason

[onyx flame]

also dont buy ur bulins until you need them

[ocean terrace]

that is strange though, how have I gotten 6 in 3 weeks

[ocean terrace]

yeah I have 8k spec core points atm

[onyx flame]

there some other non renewable sources

[ocean terrace]

I think homecoming does give you one, not completely sure

[onyx flame]

doesnt but the bulin support plan gives 1

[ocean terrace]

and another from cruise pass, then 2 from last month's spec cores

actually I doubt I got 2 last month, considering I'd only played for a week before reset

eh too much thinking, at least I've got enough for december UR

[reef bane]

haha there better be an event with that UR banner as well cuz im so low on cubes rn

[onyx flame]

ur event is on 18 dec

[reef bane]

yooo after my finals lesgo

[west steeple]

it lasts 2 weeks right?

[sweet delta]

Safe to assume 2 weeks is the minimum

-# Minus maintenance times

[desert tapir]

Is the 533mm Mark 35 Torpedo Mount (Quad Consecutive Launch) any good? I don't see it any of the guides so I assume No, but also can't remember when it came out so wanted to double check.

[whole crypt]

the homing is too weak with the torp going too fast to actually track almost anything

[desert tapir]

Roger.

[civic ridge]

I use it, it's not horrible, but it's not the best - i keep it mostly for ch 14 so i have another way to hit subs (granted, that's mostly out of paranoia). It does the job, works, and hits enough with how fast it is.

At least on auto it seems to work decently

(it's also cheaper to make and "enough" if you're low on materials) but there are better options..probably...

[desert tapir]

Almost always a better option in AL. Or will be one soon. I found one in my inventory but can't remember when I got it. I'll be the first to point out I'm a space case so it's possible I built it while trying to build the recommended one right next to it, then simply forgot it.

[whole crypt]

there should have been an event at some point that gave either a copy or prints for it

otherwise it's lab exclusive

I personally don't think it really helps with subs on 14 than just making sure you have proper ASW

[desert tapir]

Just looking to see if I can eak a little more DPS out of Shima.

[whole crypt]

best torp is imp quad
next best is normal quadmag or rainbow quint, cost wise it's easier to just quadmag

[wind hazel]

manual her and use her rainbow torp 👍🏼 thats how you can improve shimakaze's damage

[ivory sigil]

does it related to a comeback event?

[whole crypt]

you get enough spec cores for 2 every month if you bother
there's one at lv100 for cruise pass
UR events/reruns have 1 in milestone

[wind hazel]

newbie get 1 free for completing the bulin thingy

[whole crypt]

that too

[wind hazel]

6 checks out

[whole crypt]

or if you happened to just have spec cores you haven't spent from before really

[wind hazel]

actually does it

[whole crypt]

6 sounds like a stretch without extra stocked spec cores

[ivory sigil]

yeah i have 2 UR bulin
1 from the last cruise
1 from the newbie bulin event

how to 6 ?

[onyx flame]

you also get another 2k spec corefrom the bulin event that give 1 free bulin

[ivory sigil]

yeah i only have like 6k spec, so that's still a 3rd URbulin
so i was speculation it was relate to the returnee event
nvm i had no clue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS8J1rmyzm0

[elfin bay]

hi, whats the expected rerun of a colab event? is it 1 year or 6 months?

[onyx flame]

2 years

[wind hazel]

they are expected to not rerun lol

[onyx flame]

oh wait collab, yea its just up to manjuu

[elfin bay]

oh, thank you, I missed out on Kurumi for the Date a Live so I wanted to ask

[ivory sigil]

how, arent she is the easiest to get tho

[elfin bay]

I just came back today from 2 year hiatus got busy with work lol

[boreal wagon]

negative

[ivory sigil]

oof

yeah she literally appear when u just ...
login

butyeah anyway, i' m new to this game and i happen to create my account on the day it started

[clear harbor]

Well, you had to accumluate enough trust so that she would permanetly join the roster.

[ivory sigil]

i mean yea, 1000pts is quite simple to turn NPC into permanent
unless u login in the last hour of the event

[elfin bay]

nice, good luck and happy AL to you! 🙂

[wind hazel]

bruh, he just came back today. which part of that you can't read 😂

[ivory sigil]

-# typo

-# (i mean on the day of event, kurumi enter everyone's rooster upon login)

[wind hazel]

as NPC 💀

which is still irrelevant

[ocean terrace]

don't think I had any spec cores from before since I barely played (literally 2-3 days of casual play 4 years ago)

[whole crypt]

shrug

[ocean terrace]

I mean I'm not complaining

[ivory sigil]

well im not u either so i cant investigate, although u did play plenty enough to reach the 5000limit monthly spec core

meanwhile i still havent unlock my 1st UR bulin 💀 during the time you had it

[desert tapir]

Alright where am I Mucking up. I just can't seem to get my three BB into a 20 second window. Should I swap for another BB?
Should I forget useing AP rounds for Arizona META and Just put Helena in to see if I can Brute Force the fight?

[muted wind]

that's not with max rld tech, is it?

[desert tapir]

uhhhh...

My BB Reload is at +5?

[wind hazel]

give mogador the moggun, let shimakaze have 76/113

let shima use staag/76UR for aa

also wdym you can't fit them into 20s window

also maybe use plymouth

[desert tapir]

.., Is AA even Relevant in the Arizona META Fight? I dont recall seeing any planes, so I most just left Place holder AA on. I recall being told my BB's should all fire with in a 20 second window when dealing with boss's?

[wind hazel]

it's for the HIT stat

[desert tapir]

Oh yeah... Plymouth is not an option. She's level 70.

[wind hazel]

it's just a range, it's not that you MUST fire at 20s sharp

and using table/hpfcr is already under 20s lol

[muted wind]

don't you still need to be under 20s due to the battle only really being 77s?

[rain bobcat]

I mean you really want to be UNDER 20s not exactly or over 20s

plenty of shit in the game is working against ur favour if you fire 20s and above especially without hpfcr

[muted wind]

you can definitely use faster guns instead, though not sure if that would cost too much damage to be worth it over just going for a 3 reload battle. though maybe you should just invest more into RLD tech, that should fix it too

[rain bobcat]

20s gun is quite unforgiving in META

you need I think 15+ rld tech to fully get out 4 salvo's on any BB combination

[muted wind]

also i remember all heavy armor metas to just be a pain to fight. except QE. might be best to settle for less

[rapid shard]

+5 RLD tech with NJ with champ and HPFCR fires 4th salvo at the 0:06-7 mark when running 2 CVs to avoid jamming

[warm cliff]

how to get anti air gun parts

[desert tapir]

Did you just want me to wap there weapons around?

[muted wind]

no, give shima a fast gun like z52 has and give mog her own

[rapid shard]

For gearlab crafting you need to grind opsi.

[desert tapir]

Never mind found my 76 MM. Forgot about that. Have not used SHima in to long... does she even have a barrage skill?

[onyx flame]

She does, tis why she runs the 76

[warm cliff]

i need it for retrofiting unicorn 😭 i dont have opsi yet

[muted wind]

yeah, her all out assault outperforms anything her gun could do

[rapid shard]

If you mean the Anti air plates you just get those from clearing stages

[warm cliff]

yeahhh

[desert tapir]

...I always forget about assault.

[muted wind]

... username checks out then

[rapid shard]

just keep clearing stages and youll start to rack them up. shouldnt take long

[desert tapir]

At least I'm consistent?
Any way should this do better against Arizona META?

[onyx flame]

Chp 6 + starts dropping t3 plates so its just rng after

[rapid shard]

Mog gun on Mog instead of 100kai

[wind hazel]

bruh, give mog mog gun.

and why 457. also why that aux gun

[desert tapir]

Can I have the model for the Mog Gun?

[wind hazel]

what you had on shimakaze

[muted wind]

what you had on shima before

[rapid shard]

Mog gun

[wind hazel]

why is soyuz the only one with sword

why not all crossbow

[muted wind]

i feel like there are some constraints in terms of available gear here

[wind hazel]

impossiburu

[desert tapir]

Didn't I....Sorry. Swapped them In the Game, not in the calculator.
I don't have have a third sword. And the 457 Is pretty much as good as my AP guns get.... also don't have a lot of AP guns.
Also those Aux are preety much the best I can put on them with out pulling from the OPsi Fleets... more then I already Have.

[muted wind]

ngl, if this is the best you can do to get below 20s, it's fine. alsace doesn't need the hfcr for the 4th reload like this, but the hit is still worth it (well, might depend a bit on tech against this boss, but still)

[wind hazel]

can he even get 4 salvo? didnt he say 5 rld

[muted wind]

well, we see the final reload time in that screenshot

... did you enter your tech in the calculator?

[desert tapir]

Thank you everyone for helping me improve my set up. Sorry for not having a lot of options.

Alsace has a Preload.

Where and how?

[muted wind]

tech button at the top of the page in the navigation bar

[onyx flame]

You asking about how she has a preload or how to enter tech?
Preload comes from her limit break

[muted wind]

well, i was assuming alsace with preload and then 4 more reloads (so 5 shots). with a 457 that's easy enough.

[wind hazel]

5 rld :susge:

[muted wind]

soyuz at 20.01s

[verbal plinth]

whats max rld tech for bbs atm

[onyx flame]

18 iirc

[wind hazel]

18

[muted wind]

18

[verbal plinth]

thanks

[wind hazel]

just go for 3 strike, use helena if you want

[desert tapir]

I was confirming I get four should when counting her preload.
Also tech now added in.
New calculations.

[muted wind]

also do you really not have another 155mm for alsace to use as a secondary?

[wind hazel]

or plygun/any other 45fp CL gun

[boreal wagon]

-# why is the swapper constantly active

[wind hazel]

✅ ❎ ✅

[desert tapir]

i can find another 155. I pulled Alsace from looking for a Map drop with lots of Bomb Boats. Again I did not thing it was relevent to the fight so I left it as is.

Dang. I can still only get her down to about 40 HP Bars before either time ends or my Vangaurd bites it. I take it untill I get better, more reliable gear thats the best I can ask for?

[wind hazel]

you have soyuz gun right?

use back your first main gun setup, remove shima, try z52 helena mogador

i forgot if we used boiler on helena or not, i think we did can try both version, with and without

[desert tapir]

Triple 406mm (MK-1)? Its not 10+ but I have one.

[wind hazel]

why isnt it 13, let alone 10

you should +13 your gold AP guns

[rapid shard]

someone just +13'd that gold twin 380 gun now

[desert tapir]

At the risk of being rude, please see my name. Most things are on "I get around to it eventually" time. I only got around to finally beating Helena META In October of this Year.
It still takes me all four fleets to beat most Hardbiters assuming I even bother to do opsi for the month
I Mostly play the game on break at work, on nights I can't sleep. Or if I'm laid up in bead sick with nothing better to do.

[wind hazel]

well if you wanna improve your damage on arizona meta then start +13 your gold AP guns, that's one of the easiest way to more damage

if you wanna continue being filthy casual then you can continue +10

or less, idk

[desert tapir]

I was under the impression 13+ was Opsi Specific and did not affect the META fights?

[wind hazel]

it's universal

[red sapphire]

Good morning chat. I had a look at Tohka because I need tanks for my fleets. Does she perform better on vanguard front or back?

[wind hazel]

what else are you using? not many ships are tankier than her

[rapid shard]

She tank for most non-endgame content no problem. shes around 130% Ehp

[red sapphire]

I have Anchorage, Plymouth, Kurumi, Cheshire and Neptune. Also developing Ägir. That's all
Oh and also have Kala Ideas

[wind hazel]

if you're using together with either anchorage or neptune then tohka can offtank

this is assuming neptune with aug

[red sapphire]

Yes. I will do that, thank you

[rapid shard]

Speaking of tanking. on the Ehp sheet what does VV, VH, and pewpew stand for?

[onyx flame]

Vh is the plating aux thing

[wind hazel]

in general you can use this chart to see who gets to be tank. some circumstances may want specific ship to be in other position, but in general this works https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/edit?gid=1013080823#gid=1013080823

VV? vittorio 🍝

[rapid shard]

Yeah i was thinking that for that one. but VV and Z1 on Felix i got no idea

[wind hazel]

i forgot pewpew is what gun

[onyx flame]

Z1 is prob the ship lol

[wind hazel]

yes z1 is the ironblood DD, her augment has some ironblood buff

z buff to be specific

[red sapphire]

Oh, thank you so much. This is compared to Portland, right?

[rapid shard]

ah gotcha. i seen felix go from 130% to 161% with Z1 mentioned so got my curiosity peaked

[onyx flame]

Big jump in ehp but it aint like ping hai/ning hai

[rapid shard]

aint spending spec cores for the wall any time soon

[red sapphire]

By the way, this gun any use?

[rain bobcat]

no

[wind hazel]

it's super shit

😭 one piece ended before it can shoot

[onyx flame]

They dont need spec cores to retro thou

[red sapphire]

Okay, unfortunate

[rapid shard]

even at +10 its way too slow

[rain bobcat]

it's barely faster than musashi gun while doing much lower dmg

[red sapphire]

I see, good to know. Thank you

[rapid shard]

Dont they need those medalions for the retro?

[onyx flame]

Nop they exist before the whole spec core system

[rapid shard]

shows how much attention ive paid to empry, with the execption of Harbin and Hwah

[onyx flame]

I mean they are like the first empery ships to even exist

[rapid shard]

Ive only gotten the ones avaiable from guild shop/Hwah during collab build pool. ill get around to finishing them at some point

[onyx flame]

I was gonna say use em to grind exp for harbin but iirc your is alr deved

[nova burrow]

Isnt its point to synergize with kansas skill?

[rapid shard]

Yeah i cheaped out and got her with the PR boost pack when i started.

[woven star]

Harbin vanguard, Hwah main...

[onyx flame]

We were talking about ping hai and ninghai before hand

[wind hazel]

it is, but the point is useless

[woven star]

Anyone found how cooking Kansas?

This ship looks too slow and she want to be that

[onyx flame]

sr bb found dead in ur bb meta

[wispy cosmos]

u wait until the fs changes the timing

[woven star]

Even between another sr ships she looks too weird

4 main guns with 115 eff. Her skill get full buf if she doesn't fire in 24+ sec. 147 rld and no buff... rly weird

[rapid shard]

She does have a 10% RLD buff in her blue skill

[woven star]

Ah. Yeh. I missed this.

[rapid shard]

Shes still not amazing lol im using her at lv85 farming 13-4 right now with 457 and shes doing better than expected

[woven star]

She looks like dummy for beating with hard salvo in the end

[rapid shard]

Shes taking next to no dmg, i just swapped nelson retro out for her since she hit 120 and Nelson was around half health by end of mob fights. Kansas is still full by end, she seems decent defensive wise and 2 sack barrage clears fairly well

[woven star]

Interesting how she compares too SDakota

[rapid shard]

Once she hits 105ish im gonna try her in 14-4 farming to really see how well defensive wise she holds up. should get around to that end of week

[orchid jacinth]

Hey guys I have a question how can I level up my ships and are San Diego and suzutsuki good?

[rain bobcat]

you level them up by using them, and yes they are good

suzutsuki is less good but not horrible. sandy is great

[inland shoal]

Just do campaign to level your ships, highest you can run or 12-4 are the most common stages. Dorm and comms are a trickle for your lowest xp ships
Sandy is good, but needs augment and/or retrofit, Suzu is a bit meh at this point

[orchid jacinth]

Ah okay I thoight the exp thingies u get are used to level up ships tysm tho

[inland shoal]

Exp books are also used to lvl ships yes
Mostly to get them to a level that you can farm in campaign with though

[orchid jacinth]

Yeah but how I've been looking everywhere but can't find where

[late flame]

also beyond a certain point using exp books makes less sense since its diminishing returns

[inland shoal]

Dock > ship > exp bar

[nova burrow]

And id say suzu is okey until u have kitakaze, or even stronger gunboats - but dont listen to me, got "flamed" here often enough for my off-meta opinion 😮

[orchid jacinth]

Oh bruh tysm I legit did not notice it

[inland shoal]

I'd probably use her over kitkat, just not sure I'd put 4 gold bulins into Suzu when you're kinda likely to get a better bote soon enough

[nova burrow]

I used them together for some time.
I guess suzu is a bit more allrounded, will kita still pours decent dps

[lyric stump]

laf2 coming soooooon

[barren cedar]

is the 12-1 the stage everyone grinds or was it 12-4?

[wind hazel]

both are valid

4 if you need more coin

[rapid shard]

-1 slightly more xp -4 slightly more coin

[rain bobcat]

14-4

[verbal plinth]

yk 2 going perm after maint

[rapid shard]

?

[rain bobcat]

they're rushing to get skyraider into gearlab?

[rapid shard]

I thought that wasnt expected till like may/june

Now im curious how she will rank on priority for Pity exchange. Only perms left till MLB for me are UvH Van and Kron

[rain bobcat]

yk2 value is heavy hinged on kear

[rapid shard]

Just so happens im a kearsimp and been waiting to start using her

[rain bobcat]

its basically still musashi>shinano>vanguard>yk2

could make the case that yk2 is nice because double fighter on campaign

[rapid shard]

Yk2 niche is light dmg with HVARs right?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[onyx flame]

sentence to war archive for hvar when it gets added

[forest palm]

I have sparsely used Yorkii since her release

[rain bobcat]

yeah

[strange sphinx]

if hypothetically you can farm 13-1 or 13-4 for exp or coins. Is it more efficient than w12 or no?

[forest palm]

for coin yes, xp no

[rain bobcat]

for exp no because you lose 1 ship of exp

[strange sphinx]

Ic, Hmmm yeah Imma stick in W12 then

[rain bobcat]

you realistically need a carry for 13-4

it's technically whatever for the 5 other ships but you lose 1 whole ship worth of exp

not that I care about 1 ship, that's why I farm exclusively on 13-4 and 14-4

[strange sphinx]

Just asking, why though?

is it because of 125 ship?

[rain bobcat]

yes

you will quickly go into a point where there's not enough good ships that you need to slot in a carry

[forest palm]

so the transition between 13-1 and 12-4 is very miniscule, and worse oil eff for xp. while 12-1 is far more rewarding for the oil you spend, and world 12 is a lot easier to raise ships. 13-4 will only really be good for coin farming due to the restrictive nature of the map, because you can't dedicated more than maybe 3-4 slots to a low level ship while you need stronger ships to carry.

[zenith heron]

Best Support Ships for W15 are Nakhimov, Essex Retro, and Fritz Rumey right? or are there any Retro or UR that can be better than the mentioned?

[sinful relic]

do i need two teams for opsi?

[onyx flame]

Eventually that or your 1 team is super strong

Usually you have a mob fleet and X no of boss fleet

[old crest]

Are PR6 blueprints available for coin purchase now?

[onyx flame]

Not yet

[zenith heron]

Also is Formidable's Augment be used as a good Freeze/100% Slow Mechanic like Nakhimov-Soyuz, Peter Strasser w Augment, August Von Parseval and Implacable, or are the latter mentioned are still better that Formi's Slow isn't a good replacement?

[hollow gust]

Don't see the point of minmaxing support fleet when you could be using those ships in actual fleet. Such a waste to use Fritz as support Cv

[onyx flame]

Her aug doesnt fix her freeze being rng so avp/implac is still better

[sinful relic]

my main team can do 10-1 if that counts?

[onyx flame]

I mean you can run 1 fleet first till you get a 2nd fleet up

[grizzled mortar]

here's my UR set, now that I just got a lucky build shimakaze - should any of them get bulins or do I hold onto those for the next new one?

[sinful relic]

i just need to do one operation as i need it for a mission in handbook.

[onyx flame]

Hold and see what dec ur one is, also depends how many ur bulins you have

[woven star]

Wait for next one. And Musashi may be next desired mlb ship

[grizzled mortar]

got enough for 2 rn

[hollow gust]

Shima is just worst then so many ship at her niche. Also you shouldn't be pulling right now, we have a Ur in under 2 weeks

[remote yarrow]

-# Shouldn't *

[onyx flame]

Shouldnt

[hollow gust]

Investing bulins in any permanent URs right now is such a waste

[grizzled mortar]

I have 640 cubes and was capped out on coins lol

[onyx flame]

Unzen is better than shima jn her niche anyway

[hollow gust]

Then spend coins on cats and research