#gameplay-help
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z52 should be where eldridge is
How are you supposed to level up submarines? Like directly using exp packs on them or putting them in dorm maybe? Because they are so low level somehow 
the mob fleet is fine ish but I prefer watarase coping
both 
exp book to mlb or to like lvl 100 then dorm
use secretary to get them to 90 aff
alternatively people also cope on 13-1
that's also fine
but thats only for affinity
the levels u get from event are horseshit
Instead of who?
I was using aurora cause I like the idea of the "strong vanguard" for fast clears with hindenburg ignoring shields
Just use ibuki
people like me use bois bellau flag percy flex, flex, watarase ibuki/unzen
answer me gph 
just makes clearing faster
No
thats not until next cruise which is next month
thanks 
🚪
she is however already in game
Just obtain her ez

yes i got baited by larsdb 
Lars db baited my oils
i make 0 guarantees so my conclusion is 

Hmm ok
So no place for hindenbug 
Thanks
I mean u could just abolish ur 3rd fleet
and make 2 mobs, 1 for fun another for speed clearing
ur 3rd fleet is useless anyway
Or I just make it for crossfleet only
I use all four fleets for arbiter
It’s not useless

Is there a list for which crossfleet skills are the best?
I don’t have a bb fleet 💀
what does solo challenege vs collation battle mean
One fleet does all battles vs one fleet per battle
also coalition gives u 30 more points every run
Iirc they incapable of doing coalition due to lack of ships etc
pretty sure they were on W3 or W4 so yeah
Where do i use secret tickets
how do I get the kurumi augment?
Is there any other way of enhancing ships other than using other ships? Like does sweeping work?
which prototyoe weapon blue print should i get
no
Dam alr ty
event points, I think it was 18k you need, check event missions
already accumulated 30k, still dont have it
is it not in event missions?
if you participated in sector 6 before it went down to 0%, it will be sent to your mail. if you did not, you have to do a mission to get it
oh mail got it
what level ships do u need to do the event 3 4 and 5
normal mode is what level 65 enemies?
level 65 for hard, level 50 for normal so a good benchmark would be to at least match that
normal mode for all
also what doed this mean
what does it mean 95/100 coins
pretty much what it says
it means you currently have 95 points and the next reward is when you reach 100 points
okay
and i got her already but i only got trial
how can i keep her if said something about friendship point but idk what it is what do i do
you need to reach 1k to keep her permantly
Is she good and should i put her in my team?
not at 0 limit break and you shouldn't waste bullins on her
What if i want to
I'm pretty sure all 3 of the Date a Live vanguard characters do more damage than her except against heavy armor bosses and are tankier
Damn
Can i still get in time
she's pretty bad compared to the 3 date a live vanguards even is she was mlb
so when she isn't mlb she's just pathetic
I got 2 copies in the 1 day 
I mean I got all 3 dupes shortly after as well
send help 
Yeah that shit is righed to make it easier for new players to farm. The best stage is unironically Sector 1
shouuld i wait for the white shell to reset or go for the back shell or independent rn
minimum 2-3 whites and 1 black before buying indep
I got one white shell rn, 6 more days i guess i can wait
how many core data do you have now?
1200
what hard mode do you farm?
didnt farm got the new player pack

gave me 1k
well you gotta do your hard mode daily, to get more core data
yes
assuming you can only get to 4h or 5h, you're looking at around ~400 core data next month
i spent all my gems on the lvl packs
so 1200+400 is enough for a white and black shell i guess, if you play daily
Whats the best way of getting gold im kinda goldless😔
How do i get Kurumi's Aug?
event maybe ?
misson i think
Is sirus better than any character here?
@keen owl
Like the mode itself or the shop?
So its on mail. Thanks
just farm the event
event sucks at getting $. go farm w12 if you need gold urgently
Whats w12
chapter 12 campaign
Campaign story chapter12
Im like at 6
then stay poor
I m on stage 10 rn so i just farm event
Fair
like im not kidding, coin income sucks at ch6 max
just keep doing event for now yeah and push campaign after it ends
I spent 4k oil yesterday i think i got around 10k gold
try and push for ch9 at the very least cause while not good for coins is better then literally everything prior to it
and lvl up my ships too
one run of chapter 12-4 is 317 oil and gives roughly2.1k-2.4k coins 
I barely clear 9-4 lol
Upgrade gears and ships
are there any good fighters and torp bombers available to grind in ex and sp stages ?
no
well i need coins now so I juust farm event
Only good ones to farm are the HVAR hellcats but that event isn't happening
Best you can farm for a fighter atm imo is hellcats
not worth farming
i got almost 14k rn still got the oil reserve packs from the commander lvl packs
yeah i missed that one twice , once in the original event and then in the rerun
Still not recommended to farm gear prints tho 
I myself only managed to get one extra hvar cat during the rerun
was not able to dedicate considerable amount of time in the game
Just cope for tech packs
prob gonna take me a couple weeks to get to stage 12
lol , those are so random tbh , i got that maintainace aux from a rainbow sakura box just now
got gold f6f hellcats? use them
need upgrade? craft flapjacks from gear lab
got golden barracuda? use them
need upgrade? craft wyverns from gear lab
-# not all that glitters is gold
I doubt his far ahead for that
got purple f4u corsair? use them
got purple barracuda? use them
no
2 of this enough or i need 4 ?
At most 6
in due time you'd want 8 at least
Okay
I mean 12 for 2 fleets atleast
u dont run bb ?
nah you'll never run 6 CVs for 2 fleets
1bb 2cv fleet is pretty standard so at minimum 8. Once you hit W15 you'll need more for your support fleets.
Its gonna take me a while to reach that at stage 10 rn
Map 15 is gatekeeped by truly meta ships anyway, its too far ahead
I dont have any good vanguard to use
w12 is the start of midgame
what do you have
giveme a sec
you have roon and sandiego and the DAL vanguard -tohka
Roon with. Augment preferably
this ? max it ?
did you buy them with voucher or you're just not a new player
Yes
vouvher
Iirc he spread the chips to other ships
what chips??
The blueprints i mean
i mess up i traded this
avp and rupp can dev30 lol, i get gascogne need 2 more level
anchorage
oh wow. colossal fuck up i see
yeah
that's a fast pr research for someone who's this new
you basically spent your money but didn't get anything out of it 
or did you used those exp cards ?
one week in
He bought the paid packs
holy heavy spender
Even the player lv packs iirc
i ran out of gems
Akashi will thank you for your purchases
Eh i have personally bought all PR packs except PR4 onwards - it would have been better to just buy gems instead though
yeah u get double first time buy
if you're willing to spend, pr vouchers will make your new player experience infinitely easier, and i wouldn't say it's a bad purchase
... just not by doing the above
i mess up
an expensive time skip, but yeah first time seeing this lol
Onlyroon is usable for now
who should i prioritize research on after getting plymouth and agir ?
just save your money
yeah i dont think its woth it
i need tons of golds
gonna fram event all night
5 rounds 1400 coin i think
doing normal
just stop at 60k
Its worth it with the books alone or ur tech pack as a noob
last 3 rewards aren't worth the oil. yoshino at least will help you in the beginning to save gold bulin scarcity
just to give you a visual of what crap you might get
sandiego needs 2. can invest in kotori
that's already 6 gone
I saw kaguya yamai its pretty high on the teir list
all the DAL units are okay
If you want to get her, go ahead and keep doing S6
go for 6-4 ?
yeah dats what i m doing rn I can only clear normal tho
No worries, she will drop regardless
tbh only reason pushing beyond 60k is only good if you want affinity up (to oath the girls) faster than gaining levels
+more yamai twins / equip skin farming
i do need that t3 stone for roon augment
there's really no need to go to 60k either if you actually do ur pvp
too strong
seaman rn they all max ouut fleet
I'd say this really depends on your goals, I'd rather go to 60k than need another week to save for a bulin
Imo by the time you reach 60k you've farmed the event a lot, chances you get additional copies of the drop ship going to 80k+ are not great. But I would definitely go to 60k if you're bulin limited and the oil cost isn't prohibitive.
Plus limited gear skin farm if you care about that
the 60k milestone reward isn't even the map drop ship 🤦🏼♂️
sweep pvp when
early game pvp is just go in anyway win or lose there is still rewards
should one wanna tryhard, there is also a spreadsheet in #pvp
start tryhard when laffey2 rerun, easier life
I manage to find very weak/low power fleets every couple refreshes so it's not too hard to progress imo (I'm sure theres a limit to that at some point)
from what i'm reading in pvp yeah lol
she's not meta if that's what you mean
one less ship to use cog chips on
freeze bugged and she simply doesnt survive long enough thanks to lion
Why the tierlist endgame isnt in pin
I want to find a possible DDs any yet cant find that previous one in pin
ask the mods
cause it's in the bot command /tierlist you can do in #bot-spam

It is still a ship drop that if you need a copy for limit breaks instead of a bulin.
What is the freeze bug
one relies on RNG, the other is a guaranteed
That's intended behavior according to the skill text
I know, which is why I said I would go for 60k if you need the dupe and not further than that because map drop is low chance.
i see, i misunderstood then, my bad
Except the giving stacks part, but idk how the player counted the number of stacka
so probably not intended to work in pvp i guess
the stacks are only given once the zone is spawned in first cause you get stacks from stuff being in the zone
unless I'm misremembering
i'm certainly not hardcore pvp enough to wanna run tests lol
But there isnt a way to sort DDs in that endgametierlist either, so we just gonna pick the top5 top10 DDs for progression from newbie to midplayer?
Like i just want to ask what is your top5 most use DDs nowadays?
Or just follow the newbie guide and grab ... the Elite one DDs one in the guildshop (iirc her name is Taichi? Oh Taiyuan)
The end game tierlist is use-case specific. You get which ones you need for each case.
Most used ones though are Eldridge, Z52, Laf2
just get tai yuan yes
Is Tohka better than Drake?
my top 5 most used DDs are not ships you can obtain
So I have heard.
yes
Tai Yuan is only good if your retrofit her which requires her retrofit item and 1600 core data worth of gear
I always forget Trafalgar is a DD. Her design screams CL to me.
if you want a solid transitional DD level Glowworm if you have her and retrofit her
Too many L for drake
I forgot glowworm retrofit good
Is Drake bad meme back again?
saying she's better than Drake is an understatement, Tohka's about as good as Fs5 Bayard
543404 compared to 544404
Is drake just bad by current standards due to new ships like Tohka or has she always been bad
Drake has been powercreep to oblivion
drake gives me the "devs couldnt decide and so fuck it" vibes
Drake was good on release but she really didn't have much competiton back then
Her whole use case is just DPS right? Ive finished all the high priority PR/DRs and now just knocking out randoms and was thinking of starting her next
she was dps while being decently tanky
Vanguard units as a whole were pretty crap in terms of damage until Shimakaze was released, and from there it's grown rapidly to the point Shimakaze is considered low damage. Drake is low damage compared to Shima.
-# i levelled drake for this
Ive got all the high prio coinable ones to fs5 now, just doing random coinable ships while I wait for meck BPs to roll in. On average how long should it take to get 305ish bps for meck? Always grab her face card research when it pops ip
Worth it
maybe a month, or more, depends on your research
Less than expected. I focus rigging projects unless meck or lewu pop up. Still only at 33/50 for meck gun after about 1.5months
Im not doing any cube cost ones other than the rainbow meck faces that ive gotten yeice so that does seem to slow me down a bit.
a season for the average player takes about 4 ~ 6 months 
Full gear focus is just spamming riggings nnktt is around 2.5 guns rn
wow that’s crazy i’m taking every Q i see and i’m at 90 prints only
If you are gear focus and only 90, you are doing something wrong
i did full gear + mecks/gouden and i'm like uh 1.5 gun only
I'm at what 81 right now
it is what it is
i am doing the same thing i did for pr5-7 and this is by far the worst luck i got
and I went hard cubing for a bit
Hell I may be a touch ahead then. Kansas is dev30 and the NP vanguard is less than 100 from dev30.
Im assuming taking rigging projects 99% of the time and grabbing meck/lewu face cards is fastest way to get gun and them to dev30?
one reroll per day is shit
why they all show bareback and look to the left''
You realize im doing pure ships and im 83. And this is my worst year for Pr since I took like a 3 week break n
i just realized i missed out on essex and eldridge retro event. any news or leaks about reruns for them?
Next year at earliest
iirc eldridge retro reran alrd so u have to wait another yr
Essex should rerun next anni. Eld no idea
wow that sucks. are they good after retro at least?
eld yes
essex not so much (in comparison with eld)
EldRetro is one of the best vanguard units
fuck man
hmm 2 months ago
yeah i only heard about DAL collab for like 2 months ago so if i start around those i might just perfectly become a wellplayed az player
it will be added to core data shop eventually, although its not known when
i cant beat lvl 80 plz help
Can you be more specific what you're doing?
i think they'r ereferring to sector 6 normal
cause that's the enemy level there
I'm 95% sure those dates are wrong
based on your latest teammate pic, pls stick with lower sector
lvl80 are for lv70-lv80 char or lower depend on how well your SR / UR
and rest your girls
how do i do l l 80
you're underleveld if nothing else
get more levels upgrade your girls and fully max limit break them + retrofit unicorn
wow it really did stick around
and also open purple tech boxes improve the gear
You need to do lower level stages first to train your ships so they become stronger.
i did it
then become even stronger - this is far from it
Just as a heads up, the difference in level between you and the enemy effects how much damage you deal and take from them
for every level your ships are under the enemy's level they take 2% more damage and deal 2% less damage
that stacks additively up to 50%
Considering enemy levels are 80 and you're like 25 levels down you're dealing alot less damage and actually taking a fuck ton more damage
idk what gear to put
so you need to get your levels a lot higher than they are currently
how to level up fastest
Grind
grinding
Okay gear is majorly an issue here. You have starting gear, not even full slots, and no upgrades.
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/also give this a quick gander
You're asking how to compete in the 400m olympic backstroke event and you don't even know how to swim.
have you able to beat this before think about lv80
I mean they just flat out refused to read the newbie tips
@gusty badger what about the spaceship
had u maxed them
wait im gridging
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
ah fuck didn't put a space when i started typing after the copy paste 
*enemies deal 2% more damage it's not a damage taken increase on ur ship directly xd, its the same diff unless ur dealing with stacking of other effects anyways
TL;DR - rest your girls, give these stuff a read, and then help yourself
That's interesting. So the game checks the level of the target and buffs/debuffs the ship attacking, while the ship being attacked remains unchanged in stats?
yes
tbh all you need to know is level differences cause damage differences
Not to be confused with threat level stuff which is damage reduction effect only which is separate
however threat level also artifically lowers ship levels for the level advantage formula its confusing but i documented it on wiki while ago its all there
-# i'm supposed to be on sick leave on this lovely wednesday morning i cant do math
Still tuesday for me as a merican
-day1 (18th Nov): I start play AZ with laffey lv1
-day2 (19th Nov): follow newbie guide
and made a team of Laffey + unicorn
portland/Helena and some N rarity ally #gameplay-help message
Spending oils and team went from lv1 to lv40
laffey n unicorn become lv50)
-day3 (20th Nov): DAL event start,
got Kurumi for free and Tobichi from DAL gacha, but havent built them
farm both Main chapter and Event spam abit for dailyquest,
-day4 (21th Nov): Farm DAL event
till enough pts for Yamaisister + Yoshino, remake team (with help from Laffey n unicorn lv65)
-day3 (22th Nov): build DAL team
help 4 other DAL ally reach about lv30 via doing main chapter
meanwhile the previous team are lv55 only focus in DAL event
manage to beat lv65 hard of Event in lower sector #gameplay-help message
-day4 (23th Nov):
Got Touka from DALgacha, use EXP book to make her catch up with DAL ally,
Learn more about gear / retrofit on wiki and start progress on doing Hard mission for them
-day5 (24th Nov)
Got Kotori from DALgacha, replace her to BB slot
Spend all oil to catch up the DAL team, ditch Yamai sister
Unicorn retrofit progress 70%
-day6 (25th Nov)
DAL ally reach around lv60-lv70
Limitbreak all DAL ally with 1 SR bulin
able to make them beat sector6 easy (lv80) with help from Laffey lv90 + unicorn lv80 #gameplay-help message
-day7 (26th Nov)
Retrofited Unicorn 100%
Laffey reach lv100
max Limitbreak Touka and Kotori for Augment wearing
Beat sector6 hard (lv100) #gameplay-help message
-day8 (today)
postpone Yoshino and Kurumi due to lack of gold and event progression
i'm telling the @gusty badger of how to progress
not showup
while the effort is appreciated,
-doubt he gonna read that
-should be done via DM
-this isnt the place to post it
why i cant use those
what are you trying to limit break?
Is there a stage where I can farm gold auto loader?
my formation
there is no gold autoloader
Gold Bulin can only be used on gold colored ships. Purple Bulin can be used for white, blue, and purple ships.
Oh my bad it's the purple one
what does ? Mean
I mean you get plenty just by opening tech boxes and you don't want/need that many anyway
it's a random retrofit print
That icon is for a purple retrofit blueprint piece, of a random type.
can also craft gear from your depot with prints
what should i do to get it
also i have like 100 of those so why does it only show i have 1
you gotta earn more points....
They're milestone rewards
that shows how many you get from each run of the stage, not how many you have
You earn points by completing the Date A Live event stages. The music note icon you opened is the points for earning Kurumi, and that image is just an example of what you get. The number you get depends on which sector you complete.
You need to collect a certain number to get rewarded, in this case you're at 165 and need 35 more to reach 200 for the reward
yea i have like 100+ of the blue one
but it only shows 1 note
lvl up canteen, merchant or mlb san diego
what is the blue one sues for
cause that's the first milestone reward you obtained
That 1 note is just an example image, not your total obtained.
so what is this used for
Canteen
they're the same
-# facepalm.jpg
nothing but collecting to get the other milestone rewards
You need to earn enough to keep Kurumi permanently.
also notive the 7 in the bottom right corner
that indicates how many you get per bloody run
TL;DR do missions get nightmare cleffs, collect enough you get reward, collect more and you get kurumi, fail to get enough kurumi vanishes from your dock
You need 1k total to keep Kurumi permanently. You also get a duplicate of her at the 2k,3k and 4k mark to save on bulins to limit break her
i have 165 rn
go do more battles then to get more
what should i do to get the blue question mark it just takes me to stage 3
do the stage then, preferably the highest one you can do comfortably without dying
okay
well i have to wait for my morale to increase
should i buy the thing that i get to level 70 instantly
up to you if you think it's worth 5 bucks
That is entirely up to you and you alone. Your money your rules
feel like id be skipping the game if i did
its just timeskip for cash
Commander level really is just a glorified age counter
it isn't, all it does is remove some level gates
you still have to grind through everything and the level 70 pack doesn't just magically make your fleet stronger
rainbow equipment pack when
i wish 
do i need to awaken them ?
what do you mean awaken btw
retrofit? if there no other better choice then okayish
when they start dying, maybe
after they reach 100 i dont really have good sr ship rn
around w11 onwards you'll find the level advantage handy
if you're referring retrofit then portland ye but if you're talking cognitive lv increases then for the most part no
iirc someone said the gem packs that purely sell gems are the best value due to the 2x gems for 1st purchase?
lv100 is always good for comms later on
how about helena? she good ?
helena's great and doesn't NEED the retrofit, works as a buffer and DPS
okay i will awaken her first
if you've got ships from the DAL event, I don't think you need retrofit portland or phoenix
no, awaken portland first if you're using her
ffs it's not about retrofit lol. it's going past lv100, awakening
oh I read retrofit somewhere, my baddd
for one phoenix doesnt even have a retrofit
I meant retrofit portland, or phoenix
yeah i talking about going past lvl 100, So i should retrofit portland
you should
may as well just not have crafted it at that point
are you the PR voucher guy, i forgot. you could just use roon instead of portland
You can earn Kurumi red note 🎶 by spending oil in Event or doing normal quest
But priortize getting double score by bringing Kurumi in 6th final spot so the rednote 🎶 is doubled (x2)
if u havent build kurumi then only by use EXPbook lv30-40 that she's possible to build along.
Or else just continue team without kurumi, the event had like 7days left
my event score is like 20000 but the score for all Kurumi rednote 🎶 is over 4000 already, so i assume it will be easy for non-kurumi team without x2
in the end, Kurumi should have a greatspot for future progress if u dont have other better ally, she can be use on 2nd fleet
so good luck @gusty badger
the aug is pretty pointless without the improved skill which only unlocks at +10
level your DAL units
make sure you have them equipped competently https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
port helena ddstarter
roon yamai kurumi
i prob gonna farm event for maybe 2 more hour than i m gonna try to clear stage 10
make sure everyone is at least lv100 average before attempting
dont go in naked lv70 or something
😭 why he didnt read?
-average newbie experience-
do i really had to summary it into TL;DR ????????
follow newbie guide
farm both Main chapter and Event spam abit for dailyquest to make laffey n unicorn become lv50-60-70-80-90
Learn more about gear / retrofit on wiki, speedrun Unicorn retrofit by 3star the ONLY 1-4HARD, 2-4HARD, 3-4HARD, 4-4HARD and 5-4HARD
maxlimitbreak strongest ally make them reach lv70-80 for that DAL sector6 and spam event on that
on stages without ammo count does ulritch von hutten skill still work or no
5% dmg lol
lol
unless you move her to flag. one of the reason she kinda sucky in campaign
wait I think they mean literal stage no ammo like boss or opsi
Wait what?
Hutten skill is if she is using a main gun with HE ammo not whether or not the fleet has ammo etc
she reduces her main gun damage by 45% when off flag
in campaign, this stacks additively with the out of ammo debuff
in campaign, if UVH is offflag, the gets reduced damage. with out of ammo debuff, she gets 95% dmg reduction
pov shit dmg gets reduced to 5% dmg 
ngl that 5% still destroy 12-1 ships, i raised her without mlb back then. still mvp ez
my mind might not be working cause im still confused. Cause with or without ammo the skill functions as intended
they mean if the 45% dmg part still works if its opsi
did anyone ever try unleveled skill UVH? does she really do 1 or 2 digit damage when ooa

I think we tested that on release
it's -55% I think at level 1
ye 55% lv1
so she literally did just 1 main gun damage
pacifist
so basicially give her flag on stage without ammo mechanic like opsi meta fight etc
no

because there's no out of ammo debuff to inflict on her
she doesn't get the 50% ammo debuff if THERE IS NO AMMO in the stage
off flag wherever possible.
with out of ammo, flag her
she still does -45% dmg in opsi etc
or put her on boss fleet offlag to save yourself some sanity
why
she gets -50% salvo cooldown for the price of dealing 45% less dmg
have you read her skill
i skimmed it 😛
Salvo is twice as fast and half as strong. Pretty simple

sigh
just follow this, very simple
its alot of ships okay i cant remember every ship's nitty gritty
it's not about remembering its about being able to read lol
I mean, you can atleast remember the URs cause 99% of fleets use almost entirely them
i dont remember the URs
I presume you're asking because you're thinking about using her at which point, why not give her skills a decent once over
i got her maxxed out on skill and stuff without reading tbh
good, just put her off flag, the end
so it was a gun problem that cause the low dmg then....
wait im using 406 triple proto gun tho why wasnt it doing high dmg to elizabeth meta...
did you read QE METAs skills
Speaking of reading. Sirius and Kazagumos CV buff skills stack with no issue right? Didnt see anything that says they dont but want to make sure
yes
yes
Is there a 3rd CV fleet specific buffer? I only know of those 2 for vanguard
not really
helena coping
or someone with very high AA like guam to keep concealment
wut?
u can do that?
This ship exerts a field of dominion and summons Phantom Knights during battle. The Phantom Knights are resistant to attacks from non-META ships.
Once all Phantom Knights have been defeated, this ship becomes weaker and permanently takes increased DMG.
also QE meta is heavy, the complete opposite type that uvh should be fighting
Sadly Wichita META is the most recommended ship to use for this fight, especially to people like me who started with Nagato Meta instead
, Unsure if any other Vanguard META Ship can defeat em immediately
you can just use Lion and burn your way through the knights
but if not relying on Lion's Burn, which META Ship is ill recommended if no Wichita META?
Kirov, Helena, any meta really with decent gun damage
but your margin of error does go down
Then I guess Jintsuu META Can do?
I haven't tried it, would not rely on her alone though
then I guess Kirov META is my Best bet 
yeah i cant kill the knights is it the amount of hits or do u need some kind defense pirecing or ignore thing
you need to use a META ship to deal damage to them or DOT like Lion's burn
more like ignore thing if you don't have META Ships, since it really says use META Ships, which is so limiting
And Lion's Burn is by far your best bet...
did try ryu lion didnt seem to be enough
the actual UR HMS Lion btw
wrong one lol
I mean HMS Lion
Choose a different dossier
lose the battle, win the war
when is it recommended to do opsi? also is there a link to where it's explained in detail? I know little to nothing about it
As soon as you can. You follow the prompts and story missions. The mode explains itself as you go if you actually pay attention.
got it, I'm close to unlocking it by commander level so just wanted to be prepared, thank you!
Doing it with level 100 fleet is pretty pointless , big rewards are from harder zones
Where do you see your old commemoration stickers?
um
@viscid swift
i took a break for 1 hour to wait for mood to improve but when i had came back the battle said it was cleared and it gave e the next story
but i never cleared it
are getting the light cognitive chips that important, or maybe i am not leveling other ships fast enough? i feel like i have more than i'll ever get through, but iirc i saw them suggested to obtain as a priority on several places, and i have been playing for about a year everyday
you will eventually need a ton of them for fleet tech farming
you need more than you think
oh, i have 86k rn but i dont know how i would start leveling ships that fast to use them faster than i get them, right now i was trying to level good ships and ships i liked but it didnt seem very fast
by farming the crap out of 12-4
small main menu button beside battle button > memories > commemorative album > show unobtainable
Are you leveling full fleets at a time?
if you never use lvl 120 ships in 12-4 (which you really shouldn't apart from those you need to 125) ur chips will start going down at a steady rate until you are piss poor broke on the side of the road
i was more worried about coins right now to get dupes into lb, but i wasnt sure if 12-4 or the collab is better for that, and earlier when i tried to farm 12-4 i had to add a ship who was already 120 for them to not die
I saved up a Lil over 8k chips and down to 400 in 6 days lol
collab is awful for coins and exp

:<
this is every collabs skin right?
if ur a newbie and you read guides then you will be more broke than usual
you will need to gear your ships fairly well and ideally have crossfleet ships to help with the clearing
even without crossfleet lvl 100's clear
if your fleet cant handle 12-4, then 12-1 would be the next best option
im running a bunch of ships that suck and its getting pretty sketchy on the last few fights
oh khronstat was on it and was 90 but everyone else was 100+, and checking the gear and taking and giving from every ship tedious oof...
Are you initially clearing or have you reduced the threat level to safe?
its on safe
Is backline dying or vanguard?
Ive been able to clear with no healer and fleet being lv75-85 with crossfleet support with semi decent ships. 90 and up ive cleared with basically abysmal ships
vanguard
Does vanguard have all HP auxes on?
yes
What's your fleet comp?
In my experience only the purple china ships and if you run all bad DDs in front does 12-4 get sketchy on safe with decent gear on them at mlb/level 100
shinano chan - nagisa - taihou chan
memphis meta - z20 - cassin
Is it running all battles or just mob?
mob
I mean as long as it's not getting totally wiped 1-2 ships dying (especially on the last ooa fight) isn't unbearable. That IS a pretty bottom of the barrel fleet.
i guess its fine, but id rather avoid the -10 morale
so, how are the otherworld girls?
vanguards are good
main fleets are mediocre
ah, i didnt realize i needed to hit show unobtainable, weird

Is this a decent cat for wolfpack?
it has basically none of the good talents
no flame, alpha wolf, or officer
wait, even for an IB subs?
it has like nada lmao
its pretty shit
I have been using trash for a decade D:
Figured. Seen the IB officer and SS skill so wasnt sure if it was a decent poverty option
i mean it can be worse
so you don't recommend attempting it as soon as you unlock it? if so when would you say is a good point to start doing opsi
are all the skins in the shop limited
Not all the top tab ones are limited and will disappear after a while
Bottom tab one is all perma iirc
no cross?
understandable, backline is kind of lowest of low
Maybe one level 110 fleet
would this suffice? (maybe level them up a couple more levels)
vg will 100% die
Just do it
You can start opsi at any time but with a weak fleet all you'll get is weak rewards for too much effort
no but I'm asking in general if I should be focusing on opsi at all at this stage, if it's not worth the time and resources, why bother
None of what you just said made any sense
i'd say about a good point to go opsi is when your fleet can clear campaign world 12 onwards
At least 2
at least 1 viable fleet yes
you can run up to 4 fleets (+1 sub fleet) in OpSi
got it thank you, so not something I'll be focusing on in the near future
is musashi good?
is there any unit from the collab I should get?
all of them if you want them cause they might not return in the future
get the ones you want but if you like the series I would get everyone
my head hurt when I try to optimize too much, I guess I'll just have to go slower than usual, but I wasn't sure how much I should do 12-4 either since I only get so much oil and there are events too
really doesn't take that long to get 55k to 60k event points which is your typical stopping point
just why
you might as well have just low costed area 1 at that point
Too late for that
thanks, sorry for asking so much
if i got fs5 avp is it still worth it to mlb peter?
peter is horrible to begin with
she does have like 2 avi though so atleast get her to 120
please start your battle and make sure attention to the time-limit above
could it be that you forgot it had press start but B ranked score?
guys can someone explain to me how the heck kurumi can summon 4-5 clone at a time?
It's what her skill does 
only 3 can exist at a time so....
If you're referring to the event map those are not your kurumi but a support one
Yep its the auto support one procing lol
This fleet does not have kurumi , it's Guam laffey2 and Plymouth yet there is a kurumi supporting me
It's part of the map and personally wish I could disable it cause the intro cutscenes for her support slows down farming
hello, when there's a UR event in builds, if I was on 0 pity on both permanent and event banner, and I pull with 400 cubes, would I get both UR pities?
no only event pity
so event pulls don't count towards permanent pity? I guess it's different to the DAL event then
ur event pulls dont count towards perma pity
UR*Event has its own pity doesnt count for perma pity
It is also stated as such in game
it is stated in game that only banners that don't have a UR in them count towards pity
ahhh got it, thank youuu
any info on upcoming UR?
I've heard we have to wait until a week before it
I see
azur lane does all of their testing internally, so they only show stuff for big events like URs a week or so before the event starts when they post the drip marketing
help... 
hm?
event doesn't really feel like giving coin... so even after spending lots of oil... no coin..
Welcome to coalition event
Thats why its advised to only grind the event to get the required things from the shop/milestones then return back to highest campaign stages (W9 and up or War Archive if you cant make it to oil cap maps yet)
ngl this event grind stinks doesnt even give fodder ships for enhancement 
when is event over
7 days
Or urgent comms
Only nice thing is letting 4 low level ships get some xp while the other 2 nuke the boss for pretty low oil cost
Yoshino buff just dropped
I got a ton of AP boxes and need to use them up, is it more efficient to spam C3s or C5s for ords and gold crafting mats
What did they change?
C3 is more efficient, if you're low on time then c5
If you got a ton then c3, if you got two tons then c5
Roughly 1.5k saved up
Buffed Zadkiel's damage by like ten times
i tried to do the stage 6 but i couldnt finish it and when i came back 1he later it was finished
Did that move her up to actually good status.
nah i dont get it either, but yeah the timer only allow u to do a stage within 12hours of afk probably?
Does anyone know how to make chao ho and her sis good?
you use them in easy content where enemies are weak and die to wind, then they will be good
lol, theres no other way?
I want to use them instead of ning hai and ping hai like the game keeps suggesting
wdym game suggesting
The game keeps on recommending ning hai and ping hai instead of the chao ho and her sister despite them being similar levels and having purple blue gear
if you mean advice, it's just rarity+power thing
oh
the advice button often give terrible recommendation anyway, don't use it
I see.
Btw, where can i see the buffs on DAL ships
they got buffs?
yoshino did apparently 
less of a buff and more of a fix but yes
is kurumi still the same?
i have 9 blank UR gear design plans, what should i craft according to my gears?
1 more wyvern
another twin 76mm for biscuit?
but im using unicorn, mushy and raff for mobbing, is it necessary to craft another wyvern
erm no, im using lion biscuit and vang
waiting for alsace rerun to repalce vang
havent touched w14 so far...........
if you dont wanna push campaign then i guess wyvern is less of a priority
is there any problem with using 3 cv?
Maps with suicide boats can be a issue if your vanguard cant kill them quick enough
i see...
How do I get materials to limit break shinano ?
sortie, weekly missions
also exchange from medal shop
through this currency system
huh, which sortie gives the uncap thingy for her
Oh
erm boss fleet i suppose
you can also get duplicate of her from UR exchange, but there might be other priority for you
but generally UR bulin is time gated to 2 per month, excluding from UR events/rerun and cruise pass
Well, I came back to the game for the collab and shinano is my first ever UR ( from the 400 spark )
Oh okay, thanks thanks
why literally every t5 box i open, i cant find the gun in tierlist.... are they worthless?
does that mean scrap or using at low upgrade?
what gun are you trying to find cause box got a limited pool of drops anyway
Twin 100m can be upgraded into an UR gun
errr try to use? idk i have not lv60 yet to understand gearlab knowledge
Also what would be the best build for shinano ( I’m lvl 50 )
does it mean if i use it they would be bricked?
No, but it is not the best gun
if she isn't mlb then don't bother using her
but generally what shinano uses change according to the content you're doing
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
this is a guide on what to use for most cases
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
Im gonna use her anyway because she is my fav in the game
MLB or not
mlb blues are better than non mlb urs
like over 2/3 of a ships damage comes from just limit breaking them
I dismantle all my blues and only use Purples and golds…..
Also another question
How can I quickly get „points?” To unlock building aegir
Like where do those points come from
obtaining, max limit breaking and levelling a ship to 120
Is there a way to calculate how many of ships need to be done like that to reach certain point mark ?
wiki
fleet tech tab shows only ships you already have, but you can see how much youd get from mlbing or levelling them to 120
there are some useful blue gear like fire extinguisher, camoflage and steering gear 
also higher rarity doesnt mean better gear
doesnt necessarily mean better ship either
portland is your best tank if youve just started, shes the baseline that all tanky ships are compared against
It was about ships, gears I use blues as well as I don’t have almost any gears at all
i hope you are using good ships rather than just highest rarity ships
you dont want a lot of high rarity ships if youve just started because you dont have the resources to mlb them
Why dont you Screenshot your Dock/Fleets?
Those are the ships I have and I’m gonna say instantly I have0 clue what any stat means and 0 clue how to team build, so so far I just stacked up whoever looked pretty and was high level and cleared like that
So many Bulins XD
I started during music event, quited for 560 days and came back last week
Aaand gears here
Is that good or bad ? ( those were the uncap stuff right ?)
Idk, I just used the other ones
MLB Uni with Bulins and start t retro her. She is broken good
unicorn should basically permanently be in your mob fleet
Retro ?
Always use max limit broken ships if you can , hell that shinano is worst then commons without the limitbreak
Retrofit
also I am holding the gold uncap stuffs for collab units that I don’t manage to max out form event / building
Retrofit is a process to update certain Ships. You will see a retrofit-tag when you click on Unicorn
I know the term form uma
OP Healer
THERE ARE HEALERS IN RHISGAME !?
Yes
A few. And Uni is both the best and most easily accessible onr
By far. No other can compare, especially when you consider how easy she is to get
Could I please ask for w couple of team comps I could run to clear stuff ?
I have 3 fleets avalible atm
Use only 1 until ch9
you can't add npc to the 2nd floor?
npc cant be added to dorm or Secretaries slot among other things
???
Tohka mlb would be better than Indianapolis
indiana 😭
He should also buy Helena from the guild shop
There is no point leveling a Helena this point
Could you make the fleet suggestion I'm not that great at it
Unicorn Kotori LongIsland
Tohka Kurumi Tallin
Long Island is the most replaceable, some ships you can slowly level could be someone like Essex, formidable U is just a mediocre ship. Max limitbreak as much as your ships as possible, which is full stars. For kurumi I suggest you grind out all 4k of her points so you won’t need to spend as many Bulins
What could be the other fleet then ?
Should I later replace Tallinn and longsiland with the other collab units once I level them up ?
None of the other ones are worth using
If you had better BBs kotori wouldn't have been worth either
Actually yoshino can replace Long Island , if you get her augment she gets decently strong and better then Essex before retrofit. For gear https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/ follow this, it has budget options, if you lack those use whatever you have
I mean
I should have a lot of crafting materials, also what can I do with 138 blueprints of ägir that I have?
Also this stuffs
analyse the combat data into currency for the proto shop id say
And with the blueprints
thats up to what ship you want to prioritise for building from the shipyard
BPs for the SR shipyard ships are basically just a way to save on coins
The ones for UR ships are pretty slow to gain alot of and you need like 500 or so I think to fully dev a UR buildable
and some have fate sim as well
Blueprints needed for various levels. Dev30 is "MLB" for PRs/DRs and its just like normal ships, they basically useless until they are Dev30.
are all the skins in for sale currently limited
So even if I get enough Aegir Blueprints I still cannot get her cuz of faction points ?
the bps are meant to enhance her, you still gotta get her in the first place
Blueprints do not matter for faction points. You need to get more Iron Blood ships, MLB the ones you have or Lvl IB ships to 120 to increase faction fleet tech
Sigh , it’s gonna be pain to get to the required points for aegir then
You will get there eventually
Get Roon first to help start gaining IB faction points. Then you can move to FDG and AVP and that should be enough to get Agir
sentenced to war archive, divergent chessboard
why did u buy 2 ur retro items
What retro items
where to check recommended builds for shipgirls
greatsword and spice thing -4k cores
She is almost done but I’m missing some cruiser or carrier blueprints idk
And idk where to get them
You can get those from your daily hard mode clears.
Oh that, I didn’t know what those points were for
So thought that gold stuffs could be good ( before discovering I need these to limit break shinano )
I am not joking I know nothing about this game, am lvl 50 and at 5-3 in main story
/guide
Guides to Azur Lane
If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564
Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:
- Newbie Tips
- Common Resource Guide
- Research Guide
and more!
If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma
Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:
- Chapter 14 and 15
- Challenge Mode
and more!
Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with
Please read through these lol
feel free to do that
Thats what its here for lol but seriously actually reading the guides helps out tremendously and answers 70-80% of questions you probably have right now
Also before I read that stuff, how do I get xp books because leveling up manually is pain
Youll eventually unlock the lecture hall (I think commander lv60 but not sure) and you'll passively gain them by using lv100+ ships
who can i replace with kurumi in this temporarily
If you cant MLB her then no one. Also MLB your current ships
i need her for event
for double reward
what level and limit break is your kurumi?
lvl 1
You still gain points without using her and using her a 0 limit breaks will be significantly worse than what your using
forget about it, just grind without her
if u use her u get double
If your activitly playing it doesnt matter. I haven't been using her and im over 7.5k points for her
i have the hall but i only got 1 book in 2 days, so i need to use lvl 100 ships and they give more books then ?
if you use her, she will die. dying means getting a-rank rewards at best, which means less resources for you in the end, just to speed up kurumi's currency, which you can still farm with a week left
what way do ya use to get ply gun? do ya just buy prints with proto cores or just research focus pr5
protocore shop
both
both
but dont go and focus s5 now
damn, seems like ya have multiple of it
just pray for it to get added to gear lab 
its really only important for plymouth
eh i only has 2 ply guns lol
ply only, ahh
oh that one gun from that event
guichen gun

or shove donskoi gun and call it a day 
marseillaise i think
lars calls it guichen, suchi calls it mars
And this is why pictures are important on guides
i upgrade my 155 and call it a day

im pretty sure its marseillaise gun
unless i reading the wrong irl ship wiki page
Donski and 155 work good enough
suchis guide is written by cheeky but i think both might be right
but people refered to it as guichen gun at the time of me making that alias (u can even find it by searching here) so at most id add mars gun as another alias if cheeky confirms it is truly correct (by pinging me)
lets call it gucci gun
ye cause i remember getting the gun from clem event, which has guichen
cheeky sleeping...
looks close enough
this also looks very close though
prob closer to marseillaise
-# ENHANCE
100% marseillaise. Gucihen doesnt have black bar on rear of the gun
funny that guichen cruiser class only ever had twin guns irl
ill just add both 
Mars gun makes it sound like Le Mars
where to find recommended gear set up for ship girls
Meanwhile wiki on the AP version of the gun: The first French cruiser gun to be mounted in triple turrets (on Emile Bertin), these suffered from loading and ammunition feed problems, particularly when changed from single-purpose to dual-purpose mountings. 
Also shouldn't Marseillaise have the same guns as La Gali?
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
Equips depend on not only the ship, but also the content and other ships in the fleet. Refer to what Mori shared
it's the guichen gun if we go by which ship it was released with ingame, it's the bertin gun if we go by which ship historically introduced it, it's the gali gun if we go by which class of ship is most associated with it historically. marseillaise gun makes no sense and is too long to type
howmuch pts does we need to clear all event dal shop? 
108550 at least accourding to the pinned sheet 
Everything nice: 75550
Including purple/blue cat boxes: 80550
Including gear skins: 100550
Inclduing shop ship: 108550
All copies: 140550
140k
yeesh
r/theydidthemath
ded gaem, not even enough players left to maintain wiki
I have updated the gear situation from yesterday on the thread, since it's still connected to stuff I was told to do yesterday
Is it okay use cube for research?
Looking at the state of your account, no
Also I wouldn't really recommend season 6 focus
Wtf idk how much cube i use So far
You need cubes for building
But i don't have coins so hard for me to get that
you only cube research if your rich like 1k+ rich and nothing better to do with the cubes 
I follow wiki
push further into campaign, are you at chp 12 alr? that like the usual money grinding spot
Wiki isn't a guide
Man IM stupid really stupid, it say if u have large amount
Still lvl60
Yeah coins can be rough, Q researches are good to do though if you can. Otherwise not the worst to skip or do C if you are completely out of coins, eventually you should have enough coins for research to be peanuts
Yeah i make a big mistake , im using cube for research For 2/3 weeks ☺️
Thanks guys for help
are there recommendations for chapter 13?
should I?
I think having decent anti-air is the main thing, typically having San Diego retro helps.
you'll probably eventually level her for tech but you might want to prioritize awakening a ship with more impact for now
^ ah i should be chillin then
Awakening till 120 is fine, 125 you will be limited by arrays so should be more picky.
Do you not have any better BBs yet? if not its fine, but if you can replace her with someone like Nelson or Owari then switch her out imo
I wouldn't really spend cog chips this early on a blue ship of all things 
she is my one and only BB
time to change that 
you can awaken other ships first
is it that rare? i have like 5k is using 80 bad?
it isn't but you're also not getting much out of it
hmm... ok 👍
ya Cog Chips and Cog Arrays are kind of a gated resource that can go real fast
You will burn it when using to Sr ships
you will have spare chips in about 8-10 years
Even with my 7yrs account, I sometimes empty out my cog chips
He wouldnt really have the means to retro someone like Alabama/Hood/maryland so not worth recommending that, hmm.
how do I get event points faster
Here we go again
Clear maps faster
grind at higher stages and/or coalition mode 
pardon me but is there any chance for me to get this lady? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hobby
I'm 8 years and I'm only out of the drought because I've also been buying with gems
i got a question about the event characters, is origami good coz shes the only one im missing
oh nice your first now compared to being 2nd earlier on
eventually
you guys are crazy 
Some peeps says she is as good as enterprise
my BB, who to spent my limited sr bulin too then?
Lutzow
ive got kotori like 5 times idk how i dont have her yet :C
you can raise kotori for 2nd fleet
Ehh so kotori better than lutzow?
but i heard theres a ur event soon so im worried ima be broke for that
you're saying like lutzow is anything good
even hp or asw tech is better than zero tech 
DPS calculations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wvigE4P1-2XUt3tnGuXKPeD-WiDtOxbm9GEkSeTO9mY/edit?gid=1096217536#gid=1096217536
End game tier list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
Quick Gear Guide: https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
Support my ...
But you guys shitpost kotori as mid
depends on how much you care about the collab ships because they're not likely to return
URs will rerun and become perm eventually anyway
lutzow is below mid 
define "you guys", because i definitely didn't
Some strangers here
Please do not confuse this with #al-general
I mean read carefully what stig actually wrote for kotori, lutzow does worse in everything listed
what does 0% mean on top
it means the server has cleared the map
Raid ended
wdym
the event stages uses a pseudo raid format
Means sector is completed by server
other players ?
Yes
Those people who participated in the raid gets the item below immediately. But late comers get a mission instead
the game has a raid format where stages have a "global" HP which is taken down by everyone running it, if it's 0 it means it's cleared for that server
if you clear along with the server, you will collect their augment reward through mail system like this
or else just simply doing event quest, the different is nothing much
kotori is peak collab for newplayer like me, best sister
she's well above avg as gold
T2 at most I suppose
whats owari used for? i have her but i dont use her for anythin atm

idk bro, i managed to farm 4 la9 last season

