#gameplay-help
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I mean Marsei rerun you don't even have to spend cubes, you get her free 
Well thats nice. I just seen rerun and haven't looked into it fully yet. Been trying to save up for collab and Unzen banners
Is she collection tier or actually decent?
Well she wont be getting bulins for quite a while then
reasonable 
Quick question, the thing for gold UR ships, should I convert it into things to use on the proto shop?
The ones that give you blueprint, or should I use them to get more blueprint for a ship?
You talking about the blank blueprints that let you choose who they go to?
Same question with combat data for shipyard ships at rank IV, I still don't have Anchorage so I don't know if I should use them on her
Yes, those ones
The prints no, the combat data yes
Probably /2 points since 1 week rerun, and x5 each day 
Dont use the data packs for XP, turn those into protocores.
So each day 1000, 7000 total is all rewards 
should be able to just slam it in a day 
But it's x5 each day first clear
eh...
1. The event period has been shortened from two weeks to one week.
2. Each stage of the event will earn five times the amount of "Blank Sheet Music" once per day.
3. The number of attempts required to reach 100% of the event area progress has been reduced.
4. The event-exclusive "SP3 Clear" mission has been added (the exclusive icon frame "Stretch Award" can be obtained).
5. The exclusive furniture item "Stretch Ball" has been added to the cumulative points reward.
6. The following enhancements will be applied until the 11/20 maintenance:
Increased condition recovery speed for ships stationed in dormitories.```
again you can do this in a day....
But once a day x5 
omg who fucking cares. farm however you want
mhm 
Ok, thx
And she's gonna get scrapped for me anyways. I want gold parts and t4 books
burning bulins is more entertaining tbh 
I personally love this, because for me as a early-mid game player, that leaves more oil for more oil efficient activities, also known as Chapter 12 (I am always low on coins, oil and chips)
~~As if us late-game players don't farm there too
~~
are these thing worth using or do i just stick with the x4 ones?
Gold Quint Mag is bad
Guys what should I do now that I'm lvl 30 and I'm at chapter 3
And I'm trying to search agir in the shipyard
Ignore the shipyard until you get to chapter 12 basically
Should i get trade license over cruise pass if i want the gems? Or is cruise pass's other rewards worth it for the 200 less gems
Ohh okayyt thanks and anything else?
All the yt guide are at 2 years old now
So im not sure if it's still useful
What does the arrow mean? Get the cruise pass?
if your just valuing gems technically both of them arent worth it
New player tips 
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips
how do use the reward from level 8 intimacy for taihou in 3d dorm?
Should be in collection
i get the "beloved companion" thing alongside the cutscene but don't know where is that one
thats a decoration for the room im pretty sure
dang here i thought she get new stuff to wear
that's for gems
my dock doesnt have any good BB so i want to use her as my BB, is it good? or i just wait for unzen?
unzen isn't a BB but yeah mlb sushi if you don't have other priorities
what's currently the best lineup for non sub tempesta fleet
i-404, Flasher, Archerfish
some combinations of all the SRs I'd imagine.
don't think anyone's bothered to try and work out which is the best considering they'd all be mediocre
yea i know they're not the best, but using them together is aethetically pleasing, thanks for the advice tho
QAR plus two of
Ganj (heal)
Sao (real stagger plus buff, probably always pick her)
Pearl (slightly earlier damage)
And I believe there are 3 gold vanguard ships
yea it's between ganj'i or pearl for me
When was the last time this got upgraded?
2 or so years back it used to be Lv 7
Full tempesta fleet isn't good idea cos they used their own guns. If looking for this event it's 3 main gun from t5 and 6 dd guns from t6. It's very expensive in oil value. And this's only for back line. For vanguards maybe better guns from shop as lowrld and better dmg.
so where does QAR shine best?
there's no content where you'd really want to use her...
waifu fleet
in a map where there is like 0 enemy planes
is the gold suisei worth using or is it another helldiver low diff?
it's a worse helldiver
nothing that comes out of tech boxes beats the helldiver
there is no more reset before maint correct?
Are any of these ships worth keeping?
keep limited ones like kersaint and nuke the ones you can obtain
yeap most for stat
usually u save BB, CV, and DD one
It give bonus stat if u lvl them up to 120
yea keep ones that give fp/reload/avi/eva ones with hp can get nuked
^
I'm starting to work on 15 now, but I noticed Georgia at 120 has some high stats. I thought, Is it worth taking her to 125? Hmmm, looking her up on https://azurlaneecgc.com/samvaluation/ suggests it's not worth it. I'll leave her at 120. Good-enough 😄
she really isnt
she's so far away from even the best gold BBs
stats dont tell you the whole picture
MGM and skills, gear, other ships per usual.
short answer, no
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit
long answer: no, no, no, she's been powercrept to hell
she has less MGMs than usual
even when she came out she was already facing stiff competition
She's a mannequin for skins 😄 Thanks for all the other resources to check too.
I think a YouTuber recommended Georgia for chapter 15
The one you should avoid at all costs for gameplay Advice
which one there's so many
this is probably a fair bit to ask but would anyone be willing to help me in dms so i can show what ships i have and what the best teams i can make are? im earlyish game in chapter 6.
+2 bbs FP is maximum what you can get
you could just start a thread in here and post that there
how many bps for dev30 mecklenburg? for wtv reason wiki doesnt wanna tell me
Same as every other dr 513
Chapter 6 Player fleet making help.
/devbp
@weary edge as per wiki info ^
that's quite a few blueprints
it is yes
if anyone has some spare time and wouldnt mind looking over my dock to help a newer player build my fleets i would greatly appreciate it 🙏 https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1435729099824824440
since musashi will be added um, will she be better than lion (boss fleet) or nj (mob fleet). or if should be musashi boss fleet and lion mob fleet
musashi does like, half of lion's damage but is a cheat for campaign -- do what you will with that information
Shes just better
Is it time to dig up the game feedback post about Lion having the lowest HP of all rainbow BBs by far?
send it to me please
so lion is better or who is...sorry im bit dumb
can mlb musashi instant btw dw
Musashi and Lion are similar through chapter 14 but Musashi is notably better if your main fleet would be dying in 14 or 15
Ok, from the little that ik, Lion is better dmg dealer than Musashi, in Heavy/Med Boss, but Musashi is better in Mob Fleets
im at world 13 kinda, forgot doing it xd
Musashi has a defensive skill that lets her take all of the damage the main fleet would take. Combo with being generally tanky, and a single target healer like Aquila, your main fleet will be incredibly safe compared to normal.
Stigma can you confirm this?
i use unicorn in healing in mob fleet
Yes, but add Musashi as offFlag for the defensive skill
- Some AA (not much but some atleast)
well lemme say the backline:
boss fleet- shinano, lion, hakuho? that ur girl in ninja event
mob fleet- unicorn, nj, enty
As you should. The common mob setup to sleep through w14/15 is Uni-Musashi-Aquila.
i dont even know who aquila is 
Italian carrier
Her main thing is she has a targeted heal which works well to keep Musashi healthy as she tanks damage for the backline
but ima just use musashi instead of nj and thats it ig
no
you just have to not have ur acv at air denial and below
yeah i didnt had her not even having her lmao
flagging her is optimal
What about vanguard? How 2 build?
I use Guam for lead, and Kronstadt for other end is that alright?
Your right, I have become way too dumb for not even remembering my Waifus skills
you only off flag her if you dont have a secondary healer for whatever reason and backline takes heavy dmg
she tanks for backline til 40% which means now that shes 40% and no healer if you have her flag and she sinks you lose
Which chapter was suicide bomber heavy?
-# 11
Which BBs are stronger (does more damage or have more util) than Musashi in Med/Heavy Single Boss?
so if musashi is coming to perma soon should i pick her up or a shinano for LBing
like every single BB after her?

If you dont have Shinano MLB, get Shinano
name em plz
but do they have a correct fleet for shinano
Isnt Shinano pretty good by itself?
bismarck soyuz alsace lion and in technicality raffaello is better in w15
literally every single bb after musashi is better than her in damage and utility
And Against Med/Heavy Boss?
What
Please elaborate
Not like I can really help you rn since I'm working rn
musashi's value is her tanking skill and her still having great damage even if she's powercrept
Soyuz is worse than Musashi against heavy
they're within like 3-5% iirc?
I know zwei and alsace are within 3% of musashi in heavy
Top heavy BBs are Lion and Meck and the third would be Bisz or Alsace depending on needs
Top mediums are Lion and probably Meck and the third is Bisz Alsace Soyuz
Soyuz is much worse than Musashi against heavy
You got Meck Dev30?
No, I am a casual player
Really? you who got banned for being too good?
But Meck is second best only if shes dev30?
that much should be obvious since dev 30 is max limit break
(keeping in mind for my question that i have MLB Hakuhou and am developing Hakuryuu soon and have a 0LB Shinano)
how many bulins you have and what BBs do you have
Musashi
I just used my bulins to finish Trafalgar, and I have Zwei, NJ, and FdG maxed for UR BBs
plus warspite if I finish her retro
Musashi at 2LB is easily better than any gold BB, at least for mobbing
She's fallen off a bit for boss fights, but is still at or near the top for mob AFAIK.
does anyone have any tips for hard mode as a more midgame player? i dont quite understand it and im struggling to get 3 stars even on the early ones
uh, is the musashi bunny fit coming with her perm release
Is this a fleet comp question or a mechanics question?
-# Zen is understanding they are the same thing 
The bunny skin did not come out with her event so no
However it might show up during this year's black Friday sale
Does she beat Oumi?
Quite handily
Musashi is still on the higher end of the UR BB power scale while Oumi is closer to the lower end/higher end SR BB
Ah I see
So essentially, Oumi, whilst being practically the peak of SR BB power, still doesn’t hold a candle to URs, and with the exception of healers, that point holds on every other ship too.
That last part is generalizing it a bit too much when it varies case to case
Esp since there are no comparable URs for the main healer role
So one thing to know is you can cheese the 3 stars by defeating the escort fleets then retreating before fighting boss. This doesn't use up one of the 3 daily attempts. If its in clearing mode, escort fleets will no longer spawn so you may have to turn off clearing more if you are missing escorts defeated.
If your struggle is just with actually winning, just stick to whatever hard chapter you can farm, and keep progressing in normal campaign to chapter 9 for oil cap then chapter 12 for efficient farming.
if i have mlb musashi and then get another dupe
what happen if i dismantle it? is there bonus or something?
You get 30 medals
so that's all i see thank you
You also get 500 specialized core but that counts towards the monthly limit so it's effectively 0 if you play half regularly
just gonna save it for collection
while at it.. if i have multiple musashi can each of them use different skin at same time?
1st using base skin and 2nd using oath skin something like that
hi chat, i’m new to the game and dont know what kansen I should use, how do I know which ones to use?
can try showing what u have first
suchi do you remember which archives got selector
one of my mates said he's never seen one but I know shima and NJ def got it
I can't remember something I never knew
yes thats what people usually use dupes for
Read the first few sections and use the starter fleet there. You can use Ark Royal, Unicorn, and a random BB for now and buy Alabama from the BB medal shop asap https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
Okay thanks
what do i get ? i checked the cats i have i don't see those 2 . not sure if they're worth?
i like getting unique event stuff
teach is good iirc
bonnet not sure but it is only 1k
u have pearl already
get oil
and cog chips + arrays after
blueprints are no longer a top priority ?
probably never was
too expensive
like u can get them if u farm enough
and ususally for ppl who farm 55k it is an easy pick up
but 10k tokens for 10 prints is not that amazing tbh
yeh i bought her very early. didn't trust my luck in the farm " nor did i trust in the time i can farm" and i was correct c:
talk to me like a player who came back after not palying for 3-4 years
cuz all my info is outdated and brain too stressed to update :c
no worries
from what I see I would grab oil (if u havent)
then the cats and cog arrays and chips
don't make me question my memory more than i already do. please tell me it was actually "top" priority back then
it was top prio in some guides for sure
like it is good to pick up if u can afford it
i just mean in this case since u have 10k it doesnt matter much
grab the other stuff
done
like 10 selector blueprints mean u finish a DR ship 1 day early maybe
do u guys use these to speed up the process or just convert them?
bet ty
may I ask howlong it takes Queen Anne's Revenge to cook before unlocking?
if its a different chatroom, I apologize

I'm trying to pull QAR, how long does it take for her cube to be finished developing?
its not on the wiki
-# 4:46:10
thank you
once i hit max limit break with a character i dont need to keep any more copys for anything do i?
unless you can retrofit, no
does retrofit take a copy?
but dont keep dupes when the ship doesnt has a retrofit, all ships could get one one day but who knows when and how many ships do you want to keep :O
yeah, i was planning on just retiring those
i mean if u got nothing else to spend ur medals on then ig, make sure ur buying specialised cores first tho
ig ill buy them cores then
I'd say those are the third worst way to spend medals, after blue plates and requisition
i shouldnt use ur bulins on musashi right (as u shouldnt with any perma ur)
What UR should I get I have hit 400 ships
musashi
Depends on who you already have, but odds are wait until tomorrow and pick up Musashi.
she’s coming to exchange after maintenance tn
It can be worth, but as always it depends on what other URs you have and how many bulins you can buy.
literally nothing 😭😭😭 and i have 4 rn
I have her and NJ
if u dont have her mlb then get her again anyways
if u do have her mlb then either shinano or vanguard, proly shinano
I have shinano as well
If she's really your only UR (or only UR not already MLB), and you can buy 4 bulins right now, I'm of the opinion to MLB her.
i mean aside from i404 yeah
mkay thx boss
Guys, what fast metode to get this things? I know it's from siren ops. But what ops? Im doing stronghold but for to get this thing almost never.
they're pretty rare to get as drops
Abyssal node not stronghold
fortunately you're guranteed to get 3 selectors from the shops and one from normal arbiter each month
Abyssal Sirens, particularly 5 and 6, and cat nodes are the main RNG sources.
They are cat drops (rng rare) or abyssal drops (less rare but still rng)
You get some guaranteed from this ^^
i need 500+ ap to farm c3 right
You just need to have finished everything else.
Just note we have 3 (4 if you want to tryhard) strongholds remaining in the month, plus all the daily missions.
But the energy tho, searching 200 meta point almost drain energy. And not enough for red zone area.
Yes, so don't squandor AP packs until the last week. Just use natural regen to clear dailies and blow the rest on c3.
should i craft the twin gun for my BB and is the bofor worth using?
That twin is used most commonly on musashi as it's IJN gear
And the twin 40mm is good for its hit stat increasing BB damage reliability
That Borfor is a worse Stagg, So do not craft imo, while that twin gun is just best on Musashi, don't craft it if you have the Tripe 410 3rd Year gun (Izumo Gun)
You can upgrade it also in the gearlab to essentially double it's bonus hit stat too
its just a cheap option dont actually upgrade it to staag thats just a waste
Izumo gun better than that twin gun?
izumo gun is a 20s boss gun
The twin gun is barely better
you use izumo gun when you pair musashi with other BB
so izumo gun just niche use?
can i use it for other BB like nelson retrofit?
well its niche/useless if you have other BBs better than musashi for bossing since you will never use it on mobs
Just use the normal bb gear that's more specialized
CN Datamine 11/5/2025
so does the twin gun for mentioned, both are either alright for Musashi, but not great for almost any BB if the Champy Gun exists
datamine
so the gun i have and izumo gun is good for Musashi but other BBs?
Other BB usually use champy/flandre gun for AP bossing
And twin 457 for mobbing
@sweet delta
Amity 300 s
Whydah 293 s
Royal Fortune 256 s
Adventure 237 s
Mary Celeste 231 s
Dolphin 132 s
poor dolphin
No datamine cause its all reruns
theres new augments but im not gonna make a datamine for them wait for wiki or other sites to get updated
-# @viscid swift high all
Can't reply to the creation to a thread which is what I was exclaiming to for the datamine 
tbh we dont even need it when It can just be summarized in that screenshot I posted
everything else is just reruns go brrrrrr 

im so high
hi so high

Does event end tommrow ?
In ~3 hours
Do events ever come back?
yes
Yes, they do Reruns and later to the War Archive (Which is permanent)
ok thanks 
Like currently they are also rerunning the last Tempesta Event too

okay thanks vulkar 
for pr4 do i coin up gïr or haku first?
usually agir
Do i need to craft the augments before the event ends?
for the tempesta ships? no pretty sure they are perma
Yea tempesta ships. Got ya.
na they perma
who are the top 6 worst al content creators in terms of gameplay
active, inactive, or both
both
Worst content creator is me
1: Extremely cryptic
2: Not that accessible
3: Barely online
4: Does exactly what 90% of community doesn't care
-# Second worst content creator is Suchiguma for not putting me in the footnotes of all of his videos
Kimo Cheese, Just3c, Quyet, OG investigator, gunnar03,
-# I'll post my first video when I finish 15-4 and 14-4 tests
check elp in 5
Oh and dishonorable mentions to hawker20, Azur Lane META, Ander, DeathUsagi, and many more dishonored mentions
ill switch gunnar with alm
Hawk isn't even a gameplay content creator. 
I know
But tbh his video on the state of AL left a really bad taste in my mouth and he has even followed up on it like he said
just3c for recommending people to not go ham on farming hvars on og run of parallel superimposition
How dare someone voice an opinion that more and more people are having lately.
Oh and OG gangster for being an actual criminal and disgusting human
I don’t have an issue with him voicing the opinion so much as the manner he went about it
how long until maintenance?
That video seemed to be made to create drama and stir up feelings intentionally or not
I mean, that one video was a bit more reactive to much more recent content. He's working on a much longer, much more thought out video.
Like, was the dramatic music really necessary if he was just putting his initial opinions out there
1 hour 16 mins from now
I don't know what music that was since it seems he removed the video, but I'm almost 100% certain it was music from AL itself.
No off topic images here btw fyi
I don't know but where it was from but either way it was very doom and gloom as well as dramatic
Either way, a poor choice
I mean... Yeah, his opinion on the current direction of AL is kinda doom and gloom since it's like AL is trying to hold on through fanservice and nothing else.
So in a way the music fit his feelings about it.
Which is fine
But stirring up even more controversy and drama on the matter which the video seemed perfectly set up to do
Is not going to endear me to such a creator
But like I said, that video was a bit of a reaction to the most recent content at the time. He's working on a longer, more structured feedback video on the current state of AL.
Given it would have been less work to not have music at all, I am not impressed to say the least
isnt hawk the guy who made state of AL
Yes
understandable
which box is the most worth buying?
If your new eagle union iirc
if not just uh take a look at what gold/purple gear you want to gamble grab
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment#Equipment_box_contents
thanks! these new ships with the canons good at all? i grinded tf out of this event but only got enough canons for one girl
tempesta ships are not good, since they lack AA among other things
bummer
useable but they will perish against any type of plane spam
got it will not bullin any
-# I got daylight saving'd
-# I thought I had an hour
Lyme and Fancy are tanky and have decent damage, so they are decent even in chapter 15 as long as you have other AA
+1 ammo slot, they are goated. Better than ARs because you don't have to sacrifice a backliner slot; they just occupy the front. Backliner Tempestas don't have that privilege though since they don't even have the AA that makes ARs barely worth considering for.
-# assumes: 1. farming content; 2. get a certain aux from current event shop or core data shop; 3. the other ships can cover for the Tempesta botes' weaknesses such as AA and damage
-# Wao which aux
wut
-# Isn't that only sub ammo
what that does is basically increase sub ammo count by 1
that's not fleet ammo in campaign maps
it does increase fleet ammo by 1 as well if equipped on a non sub IX
whats the musashi outfit selection pack, it includes the bunny fit?
its usually any outfit they have and you get to select one of them
doesnt she only have two, disregarding oath skin
also contrary to what the in game description wants you to believe sub ammo does not cap at 6 but fleet ammo does
yes but i was more so saying thats how those UR outfit selectors work in general
so uh, said picking would mean just getting the skin thats not the bunny fit no?
you can choose between her bunny skin and her boat skin
fr? I was under thr impression hrr bunny fit wouldnt rerun
its not rerunning but every time a UR gets made permanent a voucher like this is added to the shop that just lets you pick any of their skins
ah
How much do they go for usually bte
i dont remember unfortunately
The patchnotes list this, no? Atleast the JP does

wait now that lars is here
do you know which archives got selector?
my friend says he's never seen it before but I definitely remember NJ and shima -- dont know abt the rest because I missed their archive runs
holy ecarp
Does it stack
on normal fleets no
aka this
on EN only shima and ulrich
CN had NJ i believe but dont quote me on that
did they rerun the skin on archive for those who didn't get it or just none
idr how they did shina and kron but vanguards skin just reran
ty mr database
oh kron and vanguard also had a selector but its name was diff so i didnt see it (which is funny cuz they only have one skin)

NJ and Shina prolly had them only on CN but yeah dont quote me on that 
i will quote you
I saw something about a collab, is that still going on or did I miss it?
You mean date a live? That's still coming
Oh nice I'm just on time then time to grind I suppose
If you mean danmachi that one's over for a while
Nah I already knew I missed that one, nothing I really wanted from there anyway
I will be getting kurumi tho 
~~You cursed it. Kurumi not included
~~
yostar loves money to much not to
Do we know that Independence augment will do?
Thank you 
What's a crokid ?
thats the US plane bonus equip
oh damn the improved that skill huh, means now i gotta level it
how much eHP boost is Independence augment to Laffey2 Guam Eldridge vanguard? @slow fox 
time to fork over 21k coins after maint 🥀
is there an active maintenance on rn?
yea
Ok thanks
hopefully nothing breaks
yea
Was indep not high prio? She's rlly good in opsi right
indep is a campaign ship
Why haven't you already 💀
does little prinz eugen reward at least 8 faction points
Iirc child ships dont give tech 
But there is KMS ships u can grab in merit shop and war archive
i'm 8 away from getting FDG
which war archive
Check merit shop and war archive divergent chessboard
What should i use my UR pity pull on, its my first one
Musashi is top prio now iirc or the other floof
soo um ho do i get ?
read above your post
Literally the post above that one -.-
my bad
If i have both skins from that pack that has mushashi skins, what happens if i were to buy it? Lol
You likely get gems instead of a skin
it should tell you 
u-81's aug worth getting?
1080 discount coupon
Ah not bad not bad
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/34300?level=11 this best mobbing gun for sushi right
yea
good
unless your mobbing above w13
fuck. If so what is the best
uh daisen gun
which is...
oh this thing
Does it matter which fleets these units are in?
they need to be in the fleet that fights the boss
and you only need one of them for the bonus
so this best gun for above world 13
i see, thanks
Bossfleet
Algerie META counts too, even if not listed
what about La Gal META
how do u get more research 7 stuff.
do i need to 3 star each stage? or just the boss is enough
for musashi mobbing ya
perfect.
how do I get more research 7 stuff again
up to you if you deem the 3 star reward worth bothering for the oil cost
research academy and picking season 7 gear research
I completely forgot how to pick gear research. its just the normal research thing right
yea gear just means picking the research that is most optimzed for giving gear bp, just look at the pic i sent above to see for gear focus, but it still subject to rng
k
Marselaisse retro when
tomorrow
Did this update include the QOL changes or is that coming later?
any information about next week?
Unzen rerun
what is the +10 from?
its the replacement for the onsen that wouldve normally reran
ohhh
can you get 11k event just by doing daily? or need to do some farming?
I got Shinano how do I make her nuke people
is the gun in SP3 worth grinding?
then i just grind for merseiabwishdjebdbc
daily runs give you 8750 over the course of the week, so you need to farm a bit
Independence augment feels so meh, is the barrage even good

btw, is Independence aug worth crafting? or just collection tier?
We getting a separate chat for Island planner, or is it this channel too?
Likely to be A tier for new player on my list but 🔮 I can't calculate it this week
It's worth crafting yes
Shop priority is only prints, right? I got Pearl through drop and already have the grapeshot and chest
So idk if those items are good.
I'd get the cog chips first but your needs may be different from mine
I am an old player, so I have 224k cog chips so for me it is about if the item is great or not.
then get the prints

Is there cheaper than 6 oil for T3?
should i use these weapons on nj on musashi? or change
what if i am doing mob fleet...
It's just a 13% or so increase to her own damage, doesn't make Wolfpack better than fish 404
but yeah its sakura empire uh, so other stuff keep? just the main gun?
i dont recognise that aa gun so its probably bad, and musashi wants cl secondary gun not dd gun
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
anyone know how much extra event points using one of the mentioned ships like richelieu gives? can they be in the second unused fleet or actually have to be in the fleet that fights?
nvm, scrolled up and found the answer 😛
Noob here
Is this worth it for dewey meta?
Dewey meta isn't worth
The twin 120 in the back would be much better if you must use Dewey
Indianapolis is shit so take it from her no problem
hi, most of the Meta faction ships are not considered worth using at all. I'm still semi noob myself but i can point you at some guides if you are fairly new.
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
Ah thanks guys
oh and in general if you are looking at Destroyer (DD) main guns the twin 120 mm main gun mount is usually the recommended purple if you have that.
if not just keep progressing in campaign and opening tech packs for gear, you will get useable stuff soon enough
Oh cool, I don't use much DD but I'll keep that in mind.
Thanks for the tips m8
Who should I give a golden aa gun btw?
Idk who to prioritize
Main fleet or vanguard ?
depends, if it has any hit bonus give it to a backline ship like your battleship, if not then whoever
anti air guns all combine into one during battle, that dotted circle that shows up when planes start attacking is the range of all your anti air, and its just a combination of all the aa guns
It's a 105mm SK something
Ah yes I know about this
put it on any vanguard ship
its in the gear guide i linked, start getting familiar with it and ask if anything is confusing
Out of curiosity, how much worse is using leo, maggiore, and i404 than using 404 with wolf pack, j would use archer and flasher, but don’t have flasher lol
Leo Mag may be equal to or better than 2 wolves
uhhh, do we farm this event as well??
Ah thanks again
Sorry I didn't see it
Yeah it's a bit confusing when it names some guns as specific ship guns but I think I'm getting used to it
You'll get used to it fr, it's better than calling the gun Triple 406mm when there are a dozen such guns in game
Gotta farm a little if you want ship and gold plates. Just using the 5x bonus per day gets us 8,750. Need 11k for plates, so just 15 extra bonus-less runs of SP3.
If you run the 5x bonus with a bonus ship, you’ll get 11,200 instead and thus can only run each event stage once a day to clear.
that's pretty much the answer I was looking for, thanks!
Hi I’m a new player that is trying to push to ch9, here is my current fleet. I was wondering if the ones that aren’t fully limit break worth limit breaking/will it help me to farm Ch9. I’m currently on 7-4 and I’m struggling quite a bit
pick one of Saratoga or Joffree and replace Lyme
Where did your Portland go
and get a battleship for your fleet
^
You have zero suicide boat interception in the backline so that's prob one of the reasons why you're struggling
is Lyme wrose than Portland? I was kind of hoping she can fill in that role and for battle ship is yamshrio good or i should just invest in pennsyvania instead
lyme is tankier than portland, but being a tempesta ship lyme has no aa so isnt good for later chapters
Pennsylvania
And idk enough about Lyme but Portland is very cost effective
also way cheaper to mlb portland than lyme
Lyme is also heavily restricted in terms of gear options
ah i see, thats unforuntate
also my laffey is performing way wrose than lyme and helena, am i using her wrong or i just did not invest in enough?
and lyme needs her skills levelled to be tanky
Considering that she's 20 levels lower than the other two, you prob just didn't invest enough
Her gear may also be bad
That’s the gear I’ve got on her
i kinda just shoved the +6s i got from the lvl boost pack thingy on. Probably not the best thing to do lol'
So chat how good is the new U boat augment
Ah gotcha, good to know since i like thr design of leo, mag more
how strong is the indep barrage
is this for the dorm?
well there's a gear lab update due next month
UR sub torp time? 
Nah
January, no?
based on what they promised last fiasco with CN being upset itll be june/july (idr which one of the 2) and december going forward
manjuu/beacon, whats this?
Aux gear for CV
Found in core shop
Used for timing
What's the best way to level up Affinity/Affection for submarine, assuming I have access to all worlds? Go into earlier stage and unequip vanguard/main fleet and pray?
I think the raid events are pretty efficient for that
just farm normally and turn on auto summon for the sub fleet
is the full name homing beacon?
ty
Raid events are best since u guarantee a sub call
Normal maps have the issue of sub being out of range
It is not that inefficient just means u take longer time wise
If u can make it so your subs can mvp it would be doubly efficient but not always easy 
Any tips on this part? Say, for the ongoing event stages right now
Gimp your vanguard and main fleet to some extent. Subs naturally are pretty good at outputting mvp damage when properly geared if the fight only lasts a short time.
Pretty much
Having good x fleet so the fight finishes around 20s
Subs should fire before mainfleet
Give your ships bad gear
When I was farming i404 affinity in ch12 I had 0 offensive gear on 5 ships and only hakuhuo had gear for boss node
If u just fight mob nodes with mob fleet it should be pretty easy
As long as u have decent cross fleet
Thank you!
No worries
Watch the fights and see what u can do about it
Dont be afraid to experiment
U will soon find out if it is worth the min/max or just eat the extra oil cost
musashi worth going for now?
I had LDV + u552 (I think it was her) who also gave 2 extra ocean support (where submarines can join the fight from anywhere even out of range)
But if they are already raised or aff farmed u might want to chuck in 2 other subs since it is otherwise inefficient or just wait for raid
LNY is in 2-3 months and usually a raid event as well as an affinity boosting module/buff usually meaning passive aff can go >100 from secretary
These should rly boost the aff farm
From perma pity yes
Save cubes for limited content
k
Dont roll perma for her
Just wait for it to slowly accumulate
Whats the most efficient farm for the event? Best I've found so far is Ranger and Le Terrible (only event ship I have) on SP2
Both lvl 70 no limit breaks
Running each stage once per day with one of the bonus ships in the boss fleet.
Will get you just enough points for the gold plates.
Bonus ships make little difference, they don't get x5 
Wait they don’t? Well that’s dumb.
Nope, 800 on SP3, 150x5 +50 bonus
Does the bonus ship have to fight?
AND survive
Only the boss.
So dailies would get you 6600?
(30x5+5) + (70x5+15) + (150x5+50)
Not counting today
1250 per day, or 8750 total. 7500 if we ignore today.
With bonus, 1320 per day, 9240 total, 7920 ignoring today.
Oh yeah sorry. Im used to another game where it says it ends on 11/12, but it actually means 11/11 at midnight so you dont get that day. Also i get 1320 a day how did you get 1250?
er nvm you're not counting the bonus ship
I can't read evidently
(We all can't, we're EN)
True
What are the Valentines thingies?
Just an item in the depot and a luv letter in the mail
am i missing something by not playing island planner?
I believe there are affinity gifts and 1000+ gems but it would take months to get all those gems
Is Tashkent any good?
Poverty pair for nakhimov or BiS for certain EXs to high score
Aka no, not particularly good in the general content
In fact the upcoming Unzen rerun is one such EX
I should get a level 70-100 unenhanced Tashkent
Why would you not want to enhance them?
Lower the investment, higher the score.
Interesting mechanic
who to pick for UR exchange? these my URs
this event only goes up to sp3?
May as well get Kronstadt since you literally already have all the other URs in that exchange and it's pointless to raise dupes
ye thats what I was thinking... just wanted to be sure, thank you
Is it true that war archive sorties grant more rewards than the normal event sorties? Or are they basically the same?
Is painlevé good?
they are worse because no event shop or milestones attached
Oh who should i choose than?
choose where
Rerun when? 😭
in 1 year
byebye 1 mil coins
actually shop is still up
so u should grab teach rn
Here are my ur’s/sr’s i only have like 3 ur’s so yeah…
-# lyme mentioned
Who should i switch painlevé with
level oumi
Ok! Thx
and get helena aswell
Oh where can i get her??
guildshop
Oh
She’s currently not in the guildshop but thx a lot
I appreciate your help
Are the tempesta ships good anyway?
what happened t 460
For general campaign is it better to have subs in support or attack mode?
What are Queen Anne and Pearl's special interactions on their skins?
shes always there
choose her from here
anne, I haven't done pearl because im lazy
ill try to get most modern L2D's sorted by december and release my sheet
didn’t know all this exists bruh
Me neither
Tempesta events don't seem to rerun in the proper way
The ships will show up again next year, but the event itself gets archived instead of the typical rerun 2 years later
NNN is suddenly a lot harder now that i found out
If you want the special touch animations touch the first crystal in the string between Pearl's feet and touch Anne's breasts
Does it exist for every L2D Skin???
both pearl and QAR guides are posted above
yes
Where are they posted?
cn forums/servers
Could I get a link?
yes, lion big damage, and traf has support skills
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=36411181&rand=22 this was a megathread but it stopped getting updated and new guides are on individual posts u gotta browse nga for
why is the message from half a year ago 
ty
every l2d skin later than 2023 may
almost always has "some" interaction
Those are simply marvelous! I'm glad I got them both
Nice work!
-# gph now helps with skin interactions? 
That‘s crazy
just got this from my first T5 tech box, is it good?
Nope
the game's gameplay is segs in the menu+auto battle wdym

^
we were always supposed to, since gameplay isnt supposed to only include pve content
but some assholes decided that being elitist and only helping people with pve minmaxxing is worth this channels time
But only L2D, I think?
I still consider it not completely gameplay related but aight 
I don't mind it 
considering other skins have little to no interactions , yeah
Z23 is she good
shes good if you are a new player
i mean it depends really, pvp is also gameplay, but got exiled, so are other things such as tb, 3ddorm, island, and other stuffs
since this is a help channel and the only channel named help in this server, it would be natural for people to come here for skin help since its a gameplay feature, and again, redirecting them to general where their messages get drowned out or ignored realy doesnt help
I am currently lvl 80-ish should i switch her
what other ships do you have, like full dock
Depends on what you're gonna switch her with
Here’s my full dock
ya could swap her for ryu lion or jeanne maybe, what's the fleet she in look like?
Euhmm san fran grenville meta z23 as vanguard
Painlevé dead master and graf zeppelin
As main fleet
Is that your only fleet or do you have another one?
I do have another one
Chapajev, belfast and san diego as vanguard
Bismarck zwei, unicorn retrofit, hakuhou as main fleet
ok then so we know which fleet is getting more love 
is there gonna be as much skycancer in ch14 as 13
yesn't
There's almost no planes in Ch14
oh huh
planes are still a issue in ch14 but the bigger threat in 14-3 and 14-4 are submarines
oh subs arent that hard to deal with now
Cuz you haven't encountered them yet
how many is a lot a lot
youre really not gonna like ch 15, by the looks of it
and they move relatively fast to your backline
ah that might be an issue
Haha lol i just put random characters in a fleet i used to have black rock shooter and dead master in my fleet with chapajev
eldrige + a ship with a hedghog will take care of it mostly
but like how much planes I wanna see how much I can get away with BBs
just equip a hedgehog on vanguard OR eldridge and one of the anti sub plane auxes on unicorn
just gotta balance your boss and mob fleet so either one isn't to ASW making the other die to subs
Honestly is just kinda w/e? You can keep using her or swap her for Helena to level her for bossing stuff
Unrelated but please make some space
Yeah i was thinking of that too but i like all the ships
And unless you are planning to Fleet Power there's no need to have 6 Pearls retire one of them lol
You can limit break ships with dupes, no need to retire
What’s fleet power
you can maybe make ch 14 work, but thats not gonna fly for ch 15
Something ppl with alot of time and money do
an arbitraury number that people measure
i myself am a fleet power gamer but i do it via one copy of ship
Oh yeah this game is p2w…
It's not?
It's literally a meaningless number
That's not fleet power, that's just collecting lol
Oh thx i didn’t know
I gear them all out tho even if im not using them
So how many copies should i have for each ship?
Still isn't but aight 
ideally only 1
More is like whatever and waste of dock space
Huh why you need multiple for limit breaks right
If you care to keep them one of each, you can actually retire them after 120 if you have no intent of using them after that
yeah you use the dupes to limit break the one ship till it's maxed then you just stick with that one ship that is now maxed
Ok!
Or use bulins
bulins are timed gated quite abit so usethem wisely
But like I said, if you don't/won't care about Fleet Power just use your dupes to limit break
Yeah i am actually stock on bulins
Okidoki! Thx a lot!
Are the tempesta ships vanguard or main fleet
both
Srry for the shitton of wuestions
lyme for example is vanguard while queen anne is main fleet
you can sort by vanguard or mainfleet with tempesta faction tag to check
They also kinda suck
Oh
They are mainly "woah cool pirate ships" and that's pretty much it
is marseillese good
Ohh
I thought they were good lol
i just got her im new
She's pretty decent
Saw somewhere that lyme actually has somewhat abnormally high ehp for a frigate so she's somewhat usuable, still not w13+ stuff tho
Lol when i started every sr i got was instantly in my fleet now i found out half of my resources are gone
Since you are new I recommend not pulling for her any further, if you got her from Light build, we got an UR rerun next week
i got her from daily pulls
then a UR this decemeber iirc
I have been told that unicorn is all i needed until w12-13 is she rlly that good
Good, keep doing daily pulls
Unzen is rerunning next week and we got a new UR on December
should i use marsei
Yup if she is retrofitted
Oh i just pull on practically every cool-looking banner
Yeah
Stupid me
relatable but also try to use your resources more wisely
Alot of stuff in the game is time gated
should i replace sandy then? cause they both cl idk if that works idk
best to make use of your stuff as best as possible
Only till like way later you can do whatever
Depends on what else you are using
i use this
No san diego is good i think
The latter doesn't matter, you can use any combinations of ships without worrying
shes god AA bro
That looks fine as is imo, why not start work on a second fleet
After retro
im on 5-1
But you already invested your bulins on Sandy so just keep using her
Dw about it use ur fleet as it is make a second fleet with marseille
r u new too bro? we r gonna be good friends
ill do that when i need a second fleet probably ch9 ive no good bbs
I wouldn't recommend starting a second fleet if my only one looked like that
Yeah but idk if we’re gonna be good friends i mean i play league, valorant, bf redsec, warthunder, osu and have 1500 hrs on fortnite
work on that then first then worrying over vanguard slots
yes, im going to get alabama soon with medals instead of hood
Hood is bad
Why her 
okay i played valo
Hood is usuable albeit very old and power crept
why not she’s hotter
I used her and wasted like a lot of resources on her and now i dont wanna disassemble ger
Can we not say X ship is bad when she's not?
Oh boy stay away from it
is she your flagship
Hood is perfectly usable until W12~13
No bismarck zwei is
my pc broke now i cant play
u have bismarck
Aww that’s sad what broke if i may ask
ya can try for nelson retrofit if ya want
If comparing Hood to Zwei makes her bad then 95% of the ships in the game are bad then
motherboard
I sound like a girl ngl
She's a usuable budget BB
So let's not do that 
should i not get bama
No i just know hood is bad and zwei is better but ur totally right srry for the misunderstanding
Let's compare every ship to lion while we're at it 
hood isnt even good anyore, her only niche got nuked by alabama or massa i forgot
alabama is better now because of her augment, which she got recently
That’s fixable and pretty cheap i think
It was Alabama but idk where the Hood slander came from 
Hood isn't even "Bad" bad, she just got powercrept yet again
Go ahead and get her 
im broke im saving for a new build my pc is crazy to last 9 years
Remember the old days when hood was good and the only thing to worry about was monarch people?
is that sarcasm? or should i really get her

yes, you should get her and her augment
Yes go get her
Get her
My cousins pc is already 10+ years old and still uses it so if u have good quality it should be usable for a long time
problem is, that pc was a prebuilt
It should be possible to upgrade it
Normally…
i would use the okayish parts, probably the ram sticks, but im not using that gpu bro😭
a 1050 ti btw
not to be that kinda person but can we move this chat to offtopic or somewhere else
yes sorry
That is old
Sorry

anyone knows how to get ur gears?
Some are from gear lab
Some are from events
Some are from research
Some are from shops
Some are in both research and gear lab
Oh and Protocore Shop
Opsi= operation siren if you didn’t know
I usually et the from those ur grade teh boxes ( idk what they are called)
Tech boxes*
Those don't drop UR gear
They're guaranteed SR
thanks guys and do u guys know who the ur ship will be for next week? and is she worth pulling for as a new player without any UR ship?
You cannot get UR Drops for T5 boxes, just guaranteed Golds
Oh whoops my dumbass is rlly in need of help
Unzen Rerun is soon
Gacha UR always pog
Unzen Rerun, December, we don't know
what’s pog?
Pog is like very good imo
A Gen Z term for "Good"
Twitch slang
Oh yes i still belong to gen z
Unzen will have a piece of UR gear
nicee
grind normally and youll get it
Don't worry it's not that hard
no im pretty sure u can get that no?
it's 1/5 of what you normally should grind for
like literally just login everday and do dailiesabnd sp
reruns have 3x first clear on hard mode and 5x first clear on normal mode
We recommend getting 55k on events if possible, or at least 30k for the UR bulins on UR events
You'll have to grind 15k (usually 30k) for the free UR Bullin anyways so you'll get enough
Just grind harder
plus you'll have plenty of build tickets to get the 3x build daily points
Oh right, reruns ask for half
yeah its doable men dont worry
Uh yeah if i make my ships hate me for letting the fight over and over…
Just put them in dorm
They get decreased stats
And their affection drops to zero
isn't it like -50%?
just let them rest in dorm
Get 3/4 dorm slots + 2nd floor and you can have a full fleet resting for grinding 
Oh yeah lol, my dumbass forgot about that
Yeah but i am f2p and crying in 50 gems i soend all my gems on dock expansions so yeah
Then swap out the ships or just play less often
And campaign is of limits too bc my fleets suck hard
I dont have any other decent ships besides my fleets
Ill send you a screenshot
what campaign r you in
you can literally toss whatever together in another fleet and throw it at stage 1 
Idk like 11??
how many days have u been playing bro woah
Oh
Uhmm not very long 3 months??
Maybe 4
There are ppl out there with probably 1000+ ships i have only 190
Well get ready to spend on dock space if you wanna keep collecting ships 
Anyway gtg was fun talking to you guys
I know life’s hard on me but gotta keep pushing through
But I imagine your main problem right now is just holding off to your dupes, if you used them you could probably free up like 20~30 dock space 
Also do yourself a favor, set this up and press quick retire
For common ships, use them for enhancing, no need to retire them
thanks for this man
How much spearfishes needed to craft?
need 0, I've got 3 as flexes/curiosity/experimentation
Is it possible to extend the dock size to 800+?
mine is 900
I wanna spend all my gems there
Or whatever they called
yep
there are people here likely with 1k+
Max is 4030 or something
Tf can't imagine how much dat would cost lol
I've spent well over 1.2k on this game so 
*3030
I wanna "catch em all" one day m8s
gl with that
that only requires around 850 dock space at the moment even accounting for extra to deal with overflow
and I got that much just as a free to play
pretty sure I saw Nao with 4000+ 
Eh I wish I could extend my dock space easier
200 for 10 space sounds ouch
you did
did they increase the cap recently or something
cheeky lives under a rock
Recently as like 3 or 4 months ago
huh

weird
It's around $200~300 per 1000 dock space iirc
idk i just got a irl job to whale
it'll take you 4+ years
It's how the game gets ya tbh, hot characters limited space to hold them
I believe in da free gacha gamer spirit
Always carried me
If it takes time so be it
More fun dis way
I mean you can get enough gems as a f2p to do it
the problem is the vast majority it will from anniversery/event prizes that typcially only happen once a year
Wonder who'd win: Free gacha gamer spirit or EOS 
Free gacha gamer spirit ftw
Trust the spirit
if you actually wanna grind gems, it's so inefficient that you'd literally be better getting an actual job and making minimum wage(and I don't mean in a 1st world country either ) and buying gems with real money
3rd world country citizen here 
Eh idk
If I desperately need space
Maybe I'll consider it
But I trust the spirit for now yk
Gives me luck in gacha
/gems
Gem Spending 101
Gems
in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.
As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.
Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.
This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:
- 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
- Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
- Dock space (remaining gems)
The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.
The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.
Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).
Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).
While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.
-# Mucho texto
I was tempted to buy the third dorm slot
But I didn't
I would
You should
massive QofL
You think?
I got saved up so
Aight thanks
Imma get it later
I created a new account and the first thing I'm gonna do is buy the third dorm slot 
Second floor?
How much that costs
400
means i can continually farm 1:3 fleet style and just rotate my flagship
Hmm it's fine
It mirrors the slots you got on 1st floor
I usually put the submarines there coz I rarely use em
I'm low level still
So if you eventually get 4th slot on 1st you'll have 8 total and so on, until 12
Should I keep Dewey in my fleet?
I have Takao and Eugen. Should I put them there?
Also get Unicorn from Guild Shop and replace her for Chen Hai if you don't have her
Probably Takao and get Helena from Guild shop too
Alright.
the fact that z23 is the best ship in that fleet is wild
I swear I don't have favoritism towards any ship in my fleet, trust.
average ironblood enjoyer
in all seriousness, do just read the beginner's guide; don't waste gold bulins on ships that just aren't worth it. building only / primarily one faction will hinder your overall progress
bismarck & graf aren't good, even moreso for a newbie - but you've already fully invested in graf so you might as well use her 
also; ships that aren't max limit broken (MLB) are useless, they deal significantly less of their damage
penny / unicorn / graf , portland / helena / z23
rarity also doesn't mean a ship is good; a lot of rares / purples (elite) are just better then a lot of gold ships whilst being significantly cheaper
what planes to give i404
bearcat from PR7
more info in this video
https://youtu.be/1MhvKc4iZsU?si=nyN37wMpXryRkrAR
if she also equips seaplanes and has no requirement on the slot, then sure ig, but she's not a good submarine
hm
archerfish / flasher / i-404 is the best general sub fleet at the moment; there's more info in the video i sent
subs are niche though, you'd only use them in w15 and w14 if you need it
i got alabama now, should i invest bulins on her
yeah, she's the best gold bb from the medal selector due to her augment
but you dont need to invest in her until later
not for mlb?
assuming you're following the newbie guide ; just dont split bulins between ships and focus on unicorn retrofit
I kinda just use I-13 to buff main fleet damage
but other subs are good to have ig
the recommended starter fleet in the newbie guide will clear most content, alabama without limit breaks won't be better then a mlb penny
Aka MLB her
whats with helena why every new player uses her
either mlb her or dont invest in her at all, but she isnt a 'must' 


