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eldridge gonna need it too if you have the retro item
My first fleet is okay for mains with Oumi, Hakuhou and Unicorn
Second fleet is either gonna be another Oumi, a carrier and something else or just a whole new thing entirely
Yeah, eldridge retrofit is amazing
EldridgeNightmare
lmao
I would not reccomened building 2 Oumis. You would be much better off saving gold bulins and MLBing a different ship
Is essex retro item limited to an event?
Yes to anni
Atm yes
Ahhh dang when will it rerun
Next August lol
Dang it
i just came back yesterday lel
In all fairness Oumi's only one LB away and it'll be a transitional
given my alternatives are Nelson and Impero
RNG has been fairly kind to me in giving a concerning number of dupes
Still a massive waste of gold bulins that are time gated and will hold you up from being able to MLB other ships and improve fleet tech.
Fair enough
welcome back. I wish you luck in getting up to scratch again
Dupes save you from having to use bulins
Nelson retro isn't that bad an option all things considered with her price 
Tbh I'd rather use gold bulins considering how many I have
I suppose Impero-Nelson retro-Saratoga retro could be good
And think of the amount your limited to. 1 a week 2 from monthly medal shop 1 from monthly login and 15k merit a piece. You need 4 per ship and gold retros like eldridge sandy Essex need a additional 3 as well..
Is Impero okay?
hows this for w14 mob?
Don't have her so cant speak to ot
use ap gun
... and questionable toolkit on seattle
Can you replace the blue boxes with purples?
Do ya not have more purple toolkits or somethinng
Same with the depth charge launcher
oh mb im colorblind
People still use Seattle?
Valid reason tbh
they will all be purple, ap guns on who?
BBs
Fdg
champ guns on odin and fdg?
Do ya have a spare twin 457 Georgia gun?
nope
Then ye champ guns will have to work
Champ/flandre gun will work
poggers
I just realized I haven't buy Tashkent gun for this month
trashkan my beloved
Does her hair comes blue from your perspective?
msot shades of blue and purple look the same
Ah I see
and this would be my boss fleet
good?
oh not the fuckass purple cl intercept guns
pretend those are 155 kais
Mainz tank?
dont flag uvh
💀 Don't worry I just made the mistake earlier too
also do you not have another good IJN vanguard in place of mainz
noshiro
no shima? or dog retro?
dog?
yuudachi
yuudachi and shima arent mlb
also I highkey think mob wont survive especially a full escort clear so you might have to get it to safe before full clearing but I might be wrong since I stopped farming 14-4 a while ago
thats fine tbh
i could swap uvh for hakuhou once she gets some more lvls for shinano ijn buff
my input is
- get a 3rd IJN on the boss or just replace shinano with hakuhou
- consider using aquila/volga if you have them in place of odin you might get chunked on main fleets
I have volga, just thought the bodyblock from odin would be nice, ill put volga instead
noshiro -> mainz?
i dont think the bodyblock does literally anything
:(
seems ur using the purple gun because of the spread to kill BBs idk if that can one shot the boats but its prob fine
thats a misinput, im using 155 kai
I would do that yeah else shinano is just missing 20% stats and dmg reduction
Wouldn't kron be better off with the torp bulge aux over sandy due to armor type?
kron is medium.
Smoothbrain moment. Thought she was one of the few heavy armor crusiers
oh yeah is there better auxes for boss than torp bulge?
not really
Purple Toolboxes would probably be the better choice on sandy and Maines
Idk if better but it is an alternative, that being naval camouflage or hydraulic rudders, the blue evasion AUX
torps hurt in ch14
oh wtf I have champ gun on musashi
Always an option to put faith in EVA RNG 
what if... I dodge the torpedoes
holy shit i can make georgia gun
thank you cruise mission protocores
Give to fdg
do you get enough aerospace control with only 3 cvs?
Imma find out when i finish clearing 13-4 i guess
many people can but most don't
it can happen
To one clear it's usually up to RNG
If you got the best possible fleet sometimes RNG just says no
currently it takes 9 tries🌾
the best fleet will most likely never not kill
Knowing my luck I still won't 
it's up to rng in the sense that you start having a % chance to one-kill and then you start optimizing the chance, but the current meta fight has like 99%+ comps
How do you guys fleet build for opsci? Im just doing one mob and 3 bosses
That's usually normally what people do
1 heavy 1 light boss 1 mob then 4th is just crossfleet stuff
1 mob, 1 CV fleet, 1 BB fleet, last fleet is flex but i recc another 3 BB because bbs are cheaper to gear
a xfleet spam fleet is only an optimization for people who'd otherwise never touch a 4th fleet; it will never add more damage than just another good fleet.
r we talking like all ur ships and all ur gear
No
For some stuff an elite ship is actually best in slot that ship being Aurora
its trafalgar

to one shot new l15 meta fights you're expected to have +13 gear and most URs
they're usually at the end of powercreep to give endgame players something to do
alright
keep in mind the bar between a one-shot and a two-shot is 50 bars while the bar between a three-shot and a two-shot is only 17 bars
it's fairly easy to make a two shot comp for meta fights provided you arent in abject poverty
it could also be a knowledge gap
Theres a guide for Yuudachi fight in the pins
say what now
Meta fights have gimmicks to them
Yuudachis is the burn on the vanguard reducing dmg she takes
Bring fire extinguisher basically
oh what how do u find out what gimmick each boss has
wiki or sum?
They have it displayed on the meta fight
as the meta fight goes on there will also be air support throughout the fight that gets rid of more hp bars,
you can request support and sometimes get somebody who has a one shot
There are two tabs one for damage players have dealt to your meta and the page showing its gimmick
There is breakdown of Yuudachi meta fight i linked
What is flex?
flexible
incredible
all the ships i dont have
yeah the meta fight one shots are very much suited for long time players
is there any chance i cn get yuudachi by js clearing the daily low level meta fight
i mean 9 shoting is fine
Just keep sending out support requests
Ive got next to no fleet tech but ive gotten it to consistent 3-4 fights to clear. RNG on Helena buffs hitting determines if 4th is needed
Oh, ty ty!
Ive got nothing on the list. Just play around with mechanics and build for the armor type
do people look at the application message on guilds
is that why i keep getting rejected😭
Alot of people are requesting support and the list is slow to refresh etc plus ya only get 3 assist battles
Some probably just already expended their assists
alr ty
what should I use? 2BBs 1CV or 2CVs 1BB or 3CVs or BBs?
Depends on what your doing. 1BB 2CV works for most things but W10 and 11 2BB works better W13 triple CV works great
Wat abt 3BBs? when will we use it?
Triple BB can work for when AA isnt as needed or for some bosses
also why 3 CVs work great in w13? AA?
Yes W13 is plane hell
ah, planes battles
But i only have 5 CVs, i cant do 3 CVs for 2 fleets. which should i prioritize? mob or boss
13-4 boss stage has x60+ planes up constantly strafeing so AA is a must.
You dont super need 3 cv for w13 imos just pack a AA carry in your vanguard like san diego
it's just for mob, not for boss
and you can still use 1bb2cv for w13 if you have adequate aa
triple cv is just the easy way to take care of the aa issue on mob if you have sucky ships
Which ships did have good AA? i already got sandy
for chapters 1 through 13 your competition will be determined by the options you have much more than the theoretics of 2cv vs 3cv
should i do 3CVs for mob and 2CVs 1BB for boss
shimanto scylla dezeven guam laffey2 eldridge z52 etc etc, too many
so i gonna put eldridge in mob and sandy in boss? will it work?
sure
should i use DDs in W13? they didn’t have good AA
will this work? ignore the lv, i will lv up them soon
I forgot i only have 4 not 5 cvs
too many tank on mob, lol
move eugen to boss, louis to mob. can remove portland for another dps or buffer
dps buffer? i dont think i have one
i doubt it. show your vanguard
no starter dd?
Portland and Eldredge for mob and smthing between like Laffy or better
Btw Saint Luis is not bad HE dps ship
and i'd swap hood and zenker too
sure
zenker relies on being in mob more than hood
Vangurd help
how is champagne these days?
ships dont get worse. she's still mediocre
What's the command for the gear/equipment to keep link?
What's the best gear & lineup for i-404?
in #bot-spam /equip
Ty ty
Who are the team meta comp on pvp rn?
The pins are kinda old?
The document in the most recent pin is being updated as time goes on
can anyone rec some teams for ops
is elbing good? just got her from my daily pull
Zwei NJ howe agir helena flex
Replace howe with oumi when oumi is higher level
For mob use
Hakuhou unicorn essex anchorage + 2 more
Get some levels on your good carriers and maybe u can make a third fleet with them later
ECGC down? side doesnt load
https://azurlaneecgc.com/
It loads just fine for me.
Contains guides about the mobile game Azur Lane! Developed by samheart564.
now it works for me too
I need expert opinion on how best to level Dewey META and 3 subs 
Dorm/exp packs to 99 -> throw into w12-4 with other ships for leveling. Subs on autocall while farming w12 for affinity gain, exp pack/dorm them for levels.
12-4 has shit sub coverage and Dewey is already 115
Idk what world stage has the most efficient coverage for subs.
Can put the sub as secretary too for some more affinity.
already 100
Then all you need is exp, just stick them in the dorm or exp pack them.
I have considered that but then I'd be generating no coins and chips 
You know all the ways in the game to level things, just pick one.
Opsi autocall, w11/12 autocall, wait for a raid event, dorm, exp pack
was just thinking whether folks like cheeky or stig might have a better idea 
Thoughts on sheffield?
https://azurlaneecgc.com/early_ship_recommendations/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
Assuming you're asking because you're new and she randomly dropped from you building off-event (which you should not be doing)
No I plan on making historical fleets in the future
that's fine, but understand most historical gear is bad 
how should i set up my opsi fleets?
It's your own preferences, just have a fleet for each armor type
how do i check the armor type of enemies?
wiki or https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses
in opsi you can disable fleet lock and see the boss armour, it's written there along with their skills
ty, btw do u happen to hold private classes on tuesday?
huh?
nvm, thought i read a book on you or smth
yes i have private Azur Lane lessons with my harem in my 3D dorm every Tuesday
elite ball knowledge btw
is this thing worth crafting and 10+? (its series 7 cl gun)
nah
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also i was under the impression that there was some date alive collab but now there's some other collab? so like did the other one get cancelled? im not really familiar with collab events
no there's just 2 collabs
Date A Live is set likely in November
no, Date a Live wasn't expected until November
we already had 2 collabs earlier this year so it's not unusual
i see, and i was told that collab units r typically not that powerful?
In most cases
some good some bad
i see, so we will first get this danmachi event then unzen rerun?
Collab items though are something to look at
true true
im only around 300 cubes should i refrain from pulling and save for unzen?
the Danmachi collab will likely have the 2 ships only be grindable anyway
I would do daily pulls on the event, if you like the collab then pull since these might not get a rerun, Unzen should get added to the perma pool in like 7 months
true but who knows how useful unzen will be in 7 months 💔
going off of the Black Rock Shooter collab which was announced in a simillar fashion, it's likely it wont even be a banner
She's still really good at her niche as a Torp DPS CA, only real problem is that there really isnt anywhere that would majorly benefit from her usage nor does she offer much outside of DPS
For all intents and purposes, she directly powercrept Shimakaze by having better bulk and an actual semblance of gun damage
I'd prefer it if it is that, gives me more time to stockpile cubes for later banners
i see, i wasn't really sure what unzen's usage was before this. i like to go to playgrounds and kick small children. does unzen's gun at least server a greater purpose? because as of now i dont think i have the ur bulin to actually invest in her
do we know who the next UR comes after unzen is?
for the rerun? not sure
Do i really have to play operation siren to craft the gear lab stuff
Yes, you do
Next rerun after unzen is Guam and laffey.
For the next new UR we never know what they are.
At least now I can skip all UR reruns, since I got Unzen when I returned to the game. So, more cubes for me
i see, thx, would u say guam and laffey 2 r worth more than unzen?
Yes honestly
When is guam
Same time as Laffey II, they're in the same event
Early next year.
Likely February time frame
welp do we have any ur rerun before that?
I think Unzen
Unzen
Other than unzen no.
save for guam or get unzen too?
ts breakin my heart
honestly by the time the event comes you'll proly have made back the cubes u lost pulling for unzen
Really up to you
also the guam/laffey II event was the first time we got a UR in the event shop (to my knowledge)
It was the 1st double UR event
Is mogador good and what role she play i got her during alsace event and kinda forgot she exist lel
She good for quick stop and damage immunity for a few seconds
If anything hits during it though is up to your setup of characters
Well guess thats kinda good so combo her w/ peter and u got slow setup then
Why Peter
I wouldn't base it on that
also good luck syncing Mogador (or most vanguard slows for that matter) with backliners
Ahh dang welp ig she is usable
so u guys got any team recomendation for campaign and ops with these vanguards i have
what chapter are you on?
Currently at 10
I mean I'm fairly new, bout 3 weeks in. On ch 12. I know portland helena will work just fine as vanguards, san diego takes care of anti air on her own pretty much. But you have a ton of ships I don't know yet that might be better so maybe someone else can give advice 😛 I think before chapter 13 just about any ships can work though tbh.
Ahh i see welp just gonna use my strongest one
Until chapter 13 any mlb leveled unit with decent gear will clear.
Minneapolis and Mogami are deadweight. Mogador not being mlb is weighing her down.
Where is your Unicorn?
Already retrofited i filter the selection to just vanguards
Looks like a vanguard list
If it help here's also my main list
what is the best campaign map or OpSi level to grind out golden steam catapult parts?
im ngl w10 to 12 shouldnt be a problem with your unit line up
Item boxes
Whys that
Alsace/Unicorn/Saratoga/Portland/Sandy/San Fran for mob, NJ/Shinano/Enterprise/Roon/Helena/Monty for boss.
thanks
I-404
?
That’s a UR in the event shop
Yeah, lmao
oh my bad I’m stupid
You win this one, Eldridge! But Tommunism will come again to make another stupid comment!
do not say such negativities. you are the smart. why say you are of stupid? simple misunderstand is all it was ❤️
What purpose does this gun serve?
best ap gun
For Battleships.
Against heavies?
And medium (though Raff's gun is best vs medium out of all BB guns)
Can I use it alone? (with out syncing)
Yes.
Technically you can use almost anything on its own without syncing - it’s more for the effect of boss nuking before you have to actually fight it. The exceptions are the increasing number of ships that provide buffs.
Then again the last time I was in late game was when the Mk 6 was still incomparable
That gun is still best vs medium armor.
meck one is 2nd after raff
Sorry, didn't see the edit.
Whos the better healer uni or perseus
Unicorn.
She does more damage and more consistent damage. Perseus drops off after her initial preload strikes.
p sure it dev 30
Thats gonna be a long grind....
Is Shouhou a usable early game healer (for a fleet other than Unicorn fleet
Mainfleet ships need dev30 99% of the time because that's when they get their last airstrike/salvo round, which is 33% of their damage.
should I take one of my Hakuryuu's prototype Tenrai's and put it on Amagi CV? atm Amagi has double Wyvern but I think Amagi's one of those ships that gets stronger when she has at least 1 of her faction's gear on her
ngl im more confuse why amagi got double wyvern
"one of"? Haku shouldn't be using two tenrais
She could be, but you can get Unicorn at any time from the guild shop and game gives you enough currency to outright buy her, so no reason to use shouhou.
And you don't need more than 1 healer (in early game)
Oh, I wasn't aware of that
I don't see where in Amagi's skills she wants an IJN gear
hmmm, maybe what I saw on that tier list was Amagi with other IJN ships or something
lemme see if I can find that tier list again for endgame stuff
they can use standard planes according to what they're fighting https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#main-fleet-weapons-cv-airplanes
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
The complete old meta light-medium-heavy set is retired.
ok yeah, it was Amagi CV with other IJN ships, not IJN gear. my bad
the only exception is the four old gold converging TBs being as good as BFG against medium because they're buffed by Amagi
who told you mk7 is retired
i dont think we have enough lion guns for a full BB fleet yet
What's its purpose then?
... its purpose? for anti light, what else
well you will use it for light armour because you dont have 3 lion guns
even 457 isn't retired. still used as mobbing gun
Maxing 457 and 460 
the only one that was arguably never relevant is the 460
you dont?
i would be surprised if goose didnt have one admittedly
not that it's a sound investment unless you have as much resources as goose
I do it for the flex, not that good of investment for newbies though
Musashi gun was never meta for anything.
Oh you mean give it to others, that's the other thing, I meant the absolute meta.
how do you know he is new
not even 2
yes the mk7 is no longer the best BB gun for light armour
but if you're gonna be using triple BB for light armour you will need to use them
I meant a single gun relative to another.
Musashi gun was never the best for anything.
ok, still doesn't mean any of those guns are "retired"
i used mine to sync soyuz with CV in one meta i forgot about
where am i supposed to get citrus from? i can't buy any orchard seeds
Which stage is worth farming in the war archive
only really do war archive for IB faction tech or if you need oil capped stage but havent reach em yet
other than that its collection, there are some notable gear like cosmic kicks but its prob better to spend your oil on other things first
It’s not all bad, I got a random Noshiro once
I've heard current Meta battle needs fire extinguishers?
I do wonder, however, is War Archive better for grinding commander XP than my shitty cheap team
oil capped war archive is better than chapter 9 and below
c1 opsi clears both
trees in island arent one-time harvest only, right?
~20m respawn if you go to click them again it shows you
i see. just unlocked it, so i was concerned 
Which ones are oil capped?
Only two danmachi girls for collab ? Seems unusual.
I was hoping for more girls in the roster
minor collab like black rock shooter
probably that way because we have date a live collab in the next 2-3 months too
I see
Excuse me, I've heard current Meta battle needs fire extinguishers?
yes, check pins
Thanks.
all of war archives should be oil cap if your doing hard mode and like on the D stages
How many teams u need for ops
3 and a crossfleet barrage fleet
You can get by with a mob and boss fleet if you're just getting into it, but ideally you'll end up with 1 mob, 1 BB boss, 1 CV boss, and 1 crossfleet for fleets
2 if you're just starting
recommended at least 3
constantly have this "!" and no way in hell i can get rid of this
It's probably the items added to the shop in there that you need to check
no matter what i do in the shop the !s stay
Wish it wouldn't have that for private quarters honestly it's super annoying
Same for me
Finally stopped playing mono fleet and able to auto farm xp for mob fleet on 12-1 (was having to do manual for a while before). Gear is still pretty bad on mob fleet.
Should I try to push any further or is it fine to stick with 12-1 to get fleet 2 to 120 and start working on a third fleet for opsi?
are you clicking on the new items to bring up the buy option? that's what I had to do, otherwise idk
check the shop, there's a item that refreshes weekly in there
only 2 chars in collab?
That work.
There was one specific item that I had to click on
ya it's probably gonna be BRS type collab with no build 
y nelson lookin at me like that 💔
Just had a collab rerun and there's another collab before end of year, I'm happy they're considering my cube count tbh 
what 😭
Is Yudachi retro worth getting
She's still pretty solid, but nowadays she's not as top prio as before
Well i got warspite and sandy retro which retro to chase for next
Yikes Warspite retro 💀
Out of the SSR -> UR retros, I'd say it's prob
Essex > Eldridge == Sandy > Yuudachi >>>>>>>> Warspite
Its a long time ago i played since 2020 but took 5 year hiatus
wait not 5 years i came back in 2022 lel
Eldridge > Essex/Sandy >>>>> Warspite >>>> Yuudachi
sex > eld is crazy 
crazier than yuudachi >>>>>>>> warspite ?
Guys quick question I spend 10 cubes on haluhou banner, will i still have 10 pity or whatever it’s called in the future banner
pity doesnt carry over
So… I lost 10 cubes.
for event banners that have a UR rate up, it does NOT count towards permanent pity
you spent 10 cubes 
u hopefully spent those cubes to get haluhou in which case they arent lost
The best I got was an elite…
10 cubes isnt a big deal anyway in this game
it happens, 10 cubes isn't that much and was worth the chance at UR
Yh I would’ve lost more than half my soul if I didn’t get around 50 cubes with quests
not trying = 0% chance of getting her
I started azure lane like 5 days before her banner ends😭
Welp I’ll just save up for Alsasce or graff zappelin
Or any character with a good l2D
graf zeppelin?
Yh
why bruh 💀
maybe they just like Graf
i mean alsace isnt anywhere near
and graff zepp isnt worth aiming for
permanent banners arent worth rolling for in the first place except for the daily free light build (refunded through missions )
Like every other of my reasons of why I play gacha games
The baddies
you'll get graff zeppelin from just pulling in banners (which includes event banners)
Ok good thanks
but u will eventually get zepp the baddie so its better to save ur cubes for limited baddies and end up with more baddies in ur dock
graf zep was farmable in some event
collect your baddies >:D
I’m gonna catch them all(I’ll die in the process)

i caught them all, i didn't die
Lucky
you can get every ship in this game if you play consistently and for long enough, monetization is primarily through skins not the gacha
except for collab ships
Yh I need over 500 more gems
More quests for me ig
I mainly want Alsasce bc she has SO good l2D skins
holy goon 💔 💔
Alsace is both precious and hot at the same time
I made a gif of her l2d skin💀🙏🏻
well if u play consistenly ull be able to guarantee alsace because theres like 3 more UR events that need to rerun before her
Exactly
And then there's Mogador. And she, well....
For every second you are not running, she is getting closer.
Also how do I get vittorio
Lol
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vittorio_Veneto the wiki lists the obtainable sources for all ships in the game
the PR8 one or the gacha one?
Also when will they add Yamato
we dont know 💀

probably 10th jp anniversary
that's our last hope
thats just speculation 😭 🙏
I don’t care as long as they dont make her a loli
finally a normal person 🙏 🙏
so many fucking weirdos hoping she's a little girl
i hope she's a tanned loli
Yh I’ve seen some on Reddit
this isnt the channel for this discussions 🥀
#al-general is that way if you're gonna continue to goon 💀
Yh my fault
Also quick question is it good that I fuse some characters to another
wdym by that?
what is fuse
limit break or enhance ?
Like idk I have 5 of the same elite charecter
if you mean limit break then that is the intended use of the dupes
consuming the others
always limit break the og with the dupes yes
if u mean enhancing then only enhance with gray ships and retire blue + extra copies that u dont need for limit break anymore for medals
Yh so I should mix all 5 elites
is nelson worth retrofitting
if ure a newbie with no good bbs options
pick 1 as main, limit break that main with the 4 duplicates
my only BBs r oumi hood and penny lol
oumi hood are enough
Whats oumi
i have a lot of cvs, uni retro, aquila, hakuhou, sara, and uhhh yeah that's p much it lol
hood and oumi are more than enough to push to w12 where u set up perma farming tent
oumi is also the best gold bb and can reach UR lvls depending on situation so shes gonna last a while
if ure in w12 ur focus is to work ur research ships and get em going rather than raising another hood slightgrade
aww man i miss the banner lel
Does Xp gained in Opsi go towards PR research?
yes
/prgrind
Whos to focus for the pr catch up
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus i recommend giving this a read
Makes a recommendation to new players for how to set their Research Focus. Lists the pros and cons of focusing on each research season.
the catchup is covered in the PR Catchup minmaxing section
whats a good plane for i-404
research feck
does bismarck rerun coming anytime soon
She already Reran, you are gonna have to wait for her to be added to the permanent pool
Noooooo daannggg
Oh well I mean its not like im gonna need her for FDG right
Wait do you mean Bismarck or Bismarck Zwei?
zwei ofc
Then, no
Expected around CN anni, cause then it's 3 years she's ingame
Is there an updated Rodney meta team with haiku now
Sooo still a while?
Like 7 months
Nope, why would she? 
not at all
Ulrich also came out like 2 years before BisZwei so how could she even rely on a ship that at the time didnt even exist
who is better? Asama or Ibuki?
Ibuki 
mmmk. i thought so. My Asama is at 120 and pretty decent but my ibuki seems to be already doing almost as much damage
and shes only 99
Ibuki with Augment is like a lidl Unzen 
yeah i got the augment, but its only at 7 so far so ill see how much better it is. BTW is her fate good?
iirc it gives her some Evasion? So it's decent
good, but not critical like AvP
AvP?
August von Parseval
Augustus Von Parseval
PR4 IB CV
Her Fate Sim buffs the proc chance for her freeze to 100% which is wonders for her consistency
Btw are there any good IB main tech that is somewhat easily accessible that isnt tripitz/graf wanna grind exp for avp but my tripitz and fdg are basically 120 and i dont wanna 'waste' the exp
ah ok. i almost have 900 sakura tech, should i Shimanto or Azuma first?
if youre just choosing between the two, definitely shimanto
yeah im trying to figure which i should grab first, they are both 900 sakura tech points. I also have 92 BP for shina and only 2 for Azuma so i was leaning towards Shina but i heard Azuma was pretty damn good in her own right
plus Azuma would be my first DR+
azuma basically sees 0 use nowadays
She just has a lot of bulk but lacks utility
ah so just a standard tank with decent damage?
Pretty much
a good research tank that is not worth the investment given other better research tanks for the same or even less investment
anchorage is tankier and requires far less investment and time
Yeah i got Anchorage and nearly have her at 120, shes pretty awesome. my other main tank is Takao, shes ok
agir takes the same amount of time as azuma, but is way tankier
unfortunatly im pretty far from getting Agir, i only have 254/700 iron blood tech points. i started during the last event and so most of my strongest ships are sakura
Sentenced to chessboard 
so what im reading is that Shina is a fantastic AA unit with pretty good torps, is that about right?
Shima*
You prob dont want to shorten shimanto to that way but ya
you might want to call shimanto anything else than shima
Considering shimakaze is usually what shima is associated with
Anyway bump if not i just take the l with the lost exp 😔
but you have the correct understanding yes
Manto it is then! 😛
Btw you seem to be mentioning different season PRs, just to make sure what's your research focus at? 
research focus is currently set to 8
Saved 
seydlitz from rondo at rainbow's end d3
scharn and gnei from divergent chessboard
yeah i got some help a few days back regarding research and have a better understanding of it (i have 0 idea what any of it meant)
This new CB gun doesn't bring changes for Azuma? I don't think it's good for Agir. But does someone make tests?
Ah nvm. Azuma has her own gun
so when i EVENTUALLY get to 8 ill have a pretty healthy amount of BP
Looks like the closes one to getting on PR8 is Kansas, is she pretty good?
Pretty decent, but not crazy good like some other gold BBs or even URs
theres just too many rainbow BBs now so golds are basically never that special
Kansas? Slowpoke ship? This ship interesting but not sure have a niche now
yeah...it looks like she focuses on being tanky and her Barrage (with charge stacks) but the charge mechanic doesnt seem strong enough to incentivize holding off on it.
She wants 3 stack and this mean gun fire every 24 sec. It's too long. Noone focus on this. But she has 4 mount guns so
How do u set the mob clear fleet and boss clear fleet for autoplay
Seem like so random which one is moving
Role Tab
Escorts for Mob and Flagships for Boss
Ahh dang i forgot that exist
Keep in mind Mob fleet won't kill all the enemies and will swap to Boss fleet once it spawns
should i use my boss fleet for exercises?
So the few guides ive read dont really say much at all (or anything really) about suggested buys in the META shops, i have 232 Crystal Fragments now but 0 idea what i should buy from the shops.
specifically the META shop i mean
You shouldnt really buy anything from the meta shop
How to get eldrich retro item
Event item, just reran so you gotta wait again
Wait for it to get added to the Proto Shop
Agaaaiinnn ugghh i always comeback to the game at the worse timing lel
I don't think it's gonna rerun again?
then what should i do with the Crystal Fragments?
The ships in meta shops is mostly used for lvl 120 fleet tech
Just sit on em no real need to spend it straight away
so basically the META ships in the shop are ass and none of them are worth looking at twice?
You eventually get like 4? Of em for lvl 120 fleet tech purpose but yea thats bout it
thats a shame, ok good to know, ty
only helena meta is good
Just to clarify you dont need to only play top ships. Most content is easily beaten and that includes the events. If you see a wifey in the shop insta buy her
Helena Meta isn't in Shop. 
but i dont think lots of people use meta most of the time
...helena meta isnt even in the meta shop now is she
and she isnt good either
i know she aint in the shop
If we include Dossier ships, there's a bunch of at least good METAs then.
Ngl why are they so slow in adding the older cruise pass meta into the meta shop we're alr at s25 and meta shops only at s9
because they only started this year
why that took so long is as mysterious as the island
is there a reason why meta ships exist? not saying that they shouldnt be.
that is something #al-lore may answer better
They run back 2 years, pretty standard AL rerun time
I'm currently serving my chessboard sentence rn 
should i build Roon ?, i need some vanguards rn
How much do you need another Tank CA?
idk what u have but roon is a good tank with good dmg and one of the recc pr1 picks but coining her will take a while
Muse roon meanwhile: 

my vanguards are kinda bad rn since i havent mlb Shimakze and im still farming for retrofit stuffs for San Diego
i do, its not a priority
From the sound of it youre better off using Portland retrofit for abit till you can get more resources
keep working on roon and slot her in when shes mlb
and shima is useless
yeah dont bother with Shimakaze for the time being
yea i didnt know URs r bad if not mlb back then
How do I get one more of this?
you cannot, its 1 per account
UvH or Vanguard better for bosses? (just got 400 exchange points)
vanguard but neither is good at lb0 and permanent URs arent worth using UR bulins on in 90% of the cases
where specifically?
opsi
Is there any niche for mogador to be used
not if u have everyone
The niche is, she's funny
But i saw many tier list placing her at top tho or is that just endgame high level content
Never trust tier lists without proper context etc
at the top in what tier list
in the endgame tierlist she isnt at the top vanguard in any category
She just gets herself killed even after the buff upon initial release
her survability is fine now
she just doesnt compete with the other options at the top when it comes to total fleet dmg contribution or other roles if needed ( shes mostly a pure dps excluding the specific fleet torp dmg support)
I see well their reasoning being she synergies with alsace with her slow and debuffs
can META ships equip skins?
whose reasoning
gear skins ? yes
theres no skins for meta ships otherwise and skin sharing doesnt work with META variants
Saw on yt iirc channel named jimmy but its also weirdly ranked
ah ok ty, i meant the skin sharing thing
jimmers
Welp either way i just got anchorage and get her to dev 30 is she good enough to clear campaign and opsi now
yes
mebot sure is typing a lot today
How can I build a mob fleet for testing in W15 that,
1: has no healers
2: has no AA Mounts
3: has the main fleet survive longer than the vanguard fleet
4: has no carriers
5: has the vanguard fleet die before the enemy is cleared
?

Nice and lastly can i get my FDG to dev 30 by using just coins and how much will it cost me
idt thats doable without everything imploding
It's fine if everything implodes. I want the vanguard tank to die first.
do you unequip all vanguard guns and nerf main fleet damage?
depends
And unequipped all main fleet guns LOL
kashino has no aa
but shes frontline
São Martinho and ganji sawai has no aa, healing
musashi sodak meck?
What hp% do I have to get hard arbiter down to for the first reward?
(Musashi dies before Portland does)
isnt running no aa skeweing the dmg distribution in ch15 towards planes ?
I plan on running a second set of tests with AAmaxxing
Thank you 
Uhhh so how do i read the chart there if im aiming for d30
the first number is the blueprints u buy per day, the 2nd number is the number of days u will spend coining, the third number is the total amount of coins spent
common advice is to get max 10 per day 
the d30(red line) doesnt have the 3 numbers but ucan estimate based on plot location
Short answer: 10 BPs per day
Long answer:
Ahhh so d30 if i buy 10 bp per day would take me 52 days
that's including fate sim
Unless you meant the DR one which yes that would be the case
yea the dr one
Flagship protection vanguards?
A hamman II
This question may require posting my entire Dock but I've grinded enough IB Tech to be able to research FDG. I'm about 5 weeks into the game and still researching Roon, should I drop that research and switch to FDG? Eventual goal is to get more IB tech for Agir and Mecklenburg and of course acquire great ships and expand my fleet.
if u have a use for roon u should finish her because u can coin a gold and rainbow ship at the same time because they have different discounts
Roon will take a bit, 12% left on the first 1M vanguard exp and then I'll need another 2M exp. @cobalt rapids
my IB ships suck but I'm able to limp through 12-1 with Z46 and Prinz Eugen, but it's been slow to grind the xp
like i said if u have a use for a tank then building roon is fine
unless u can start anchorage and finish her faster then no point dropping roon yet
unfortunately Anchorage is hundreds of fleet tech points off and doesn't seem nearly as easy to work towards than IB tech was, so Roon is my best bet to replace Portland, unless Saint Louis could also replace Portland, I have her at dev 29, just need to level her.
well roon doesnt outright replace portland because u need tank for 2nd fleet aswell
well sure, I guess I meant as an upgrade
I have Eldridge Retro, Prinz Eugen, and Asama for tanks/off tanks as well
maybe start fdg then
What do people usually use for a 0mlb 1:1
ranger mahan(cassin/downes)
Meck Musashi SoDak
TESTER Hamm2 Yukikaze
Allows TESTER to consistently die before Musashi does. I can run my tests now.
thanks for your input and advice 🙂
what's the strat for C1 AP farming?
Get 200 AP first, dump all into C1, come out with more and then dump the rest into C3/C5?
200 is a small investment and rng means u can lose it all and come with 0 to c3/c5
only do it with like 1k ap and after ur done with the other important stuff like loggers and hiddens so u dont end up in negative and u dont have ap to clear those
sooo
near the end of the month after i'm done with strongholds/abyssals/hiddens/etc
i invest my AP into C1 in batches, and then dump whatever I get into C3/C5
how much time does it usually take to AP farm? just so i have an idea
if u know u can grind yes
c1 takes alot of time
i would start earlier
when do you start 👀
i dont c1 farm
im heartbroken.
anytime you have enough ap
i like to have 1k + more incase i go hyper negative
so for example if u spend 2000 AP in c1 u will get decent xp and maybe you get 2100 AP if u are lucky and dont mess up (dont skip akashi shops
)
-someone
wait its not even that much AP net gain?
i seeee
When do you actually 'stop'?
Like. Let's say you start with 1k AP. How long do you keep spamming C1?
At some point you'll have to stop and dump into C3/C5 because then you're wasting the passive AP gain
i stop when i feel like it
i farmed c1 once a few months ago and never again
maybe twice b4 that
because it's gonna take about that long to burn all of it on C3
im heartbroken.
Honestly dont hand you head the game is a grind and Hakuhou is an end game UR
There are more banners on the way, just do your daily pulls and when a banner comes around with a ship you need then spam cubes
Alright you got it boss
Anyone have an opinion on which gear skin boxes in prize shop have the coolest skins?
Oh I didn't realize I could preview them by clicking info.
Once Mushashi enters the perma pool, which should be by end of year I think, you'll be able to do any end game content easily with everything that is available year round. Until then just work on your missions and pushing campaign to W13
Once your at W14 then your in what I consider end game and the type of fleet you build and having specific ships for specific jobs matters
I’m at world 3 I can’t even survive the first wave I’m so terrible
It takes time but youll get there
First off I have a SR charecter how do I make her like one shot people
Just make sure to not do more than 1 light pull a day unless your pulling banner to accumulate the cubes
Wait am I supposed to do one pull a day?
For pulls the game is really F2P friendly if you pace yourself, with 1 light pull a day your getting 3 cubes a day from dailies, allowing you to sack all your cubes from monthly, weekly, and game pass
you'd give her better gear
but realistically even the best gear would not save a ship that is terrible from being terrible when you can just give those to the actually good ones
For now, go give this a read if you havent already https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/early_ship_recommendations/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
I think will be easier for you looking at those help pages.
guide wall 
Just post 2 screenshots if your ships one sorting by main, another by Vanguard
Alright noted I’ll forward it to my own dms
Should I screenshot my 2 main fleets?
Na just what you have in your dock
yeesh that is already a huge red flag
you should not be working on a 2nd fleet that early
Alright 2mins
I will see what you have in your fleets currently but also see if you ahve other options
he wont have jack shit if he's at W3 💀
For W1-9 you really only need one Fleet so we can concentrate everything into 6 ships
It will be fast then 🙂
He probably just needs to go guild shop and get unicorn and portland
Yh so I have 4 screenshot of all my shipgirls
Unzen rerun when?
Unzen added to list
wait wheres the SR? did you mean the bulin lmao
Ok so the 2 things I am seeing is one just a lack of Unicorn lemme see where she spawns at pre Chapter 3
she spawns in guild shop 😛
The gold ones I am seeing atm are not SR ships but ones you use to make SR ships bigger
Why the 2nd fleet is a good meat shield or smth like I use them to clear out lvls without my strongest fleet taking dmg and that helps me lvl up my charecters quicker
What??
The way the game works is it easier to just pump up ships bigly for W1-9 since at the current level cap you can actually just roll the content with one fleet
this lets you get into farming for materials and coins earlier
You're technically not wrong, but currently you barely have enough resources as is to work on 6 ships, you will be straining your resources to the breaking point trying to raise 12 ships this soon into the game, even if you're not spamming SRs
Good point
@clear pelican if you go into the shop and select Supply > Supply > Guild does it show you having any coins?
So I need to focus on my strongest fleet and forget my 2nd fleet until the end of W9?
Basically, this will also let you get alot of ships to pull from and build more cohesively
Ok Roger
Should I enhance my SR by mixing the other SRs?
Lets see if you have any guild currency first
I’m not in a guild
just go to shop -> supply -> guild. From the elite and rare ship options grab unicorn, portland (you will need extras for limit break and retrofit). refresh the shop and get helena and pennsylvania. you can keep using the z23 you alreay have levelled I think.
You will keep using unicorn, portland and helena well into mid-late game. A fully limit broken and retrofitted rare or elite ship will be way stronger than non limit broken SR.
Noted
Keep the bulins, you don't use them to fight, they are for use as food to limit break other ships. Don't spread them, when you have 4 use all 4 on same ship for limit break specifically, not enhance.
There is a channel for guild I would join one ASAP, doesnt have to be a good one you just need a way to grab Unicorn, she will take you to W15
Thanks
Until then slot Portland into your fleets and I would back down your difficulty until there is a level you can clear with 1 fleet, use that to EXP grind
Another easy tip for now, for purple/blue ships you dont need or are not using go dismantle them for medals. There is a medal shop in the monthly you can use to buy a couple of SR ships to use your bullions on
You need 80 medals a ship but if you are farming like normally you'll have those in no time
Ok that’s a lot of info so I’ll forward them to dms
Also what now
oh yeah commons to enhance, blue to retire. With purples check if they can be retrofitted first, if yes then keep them, if no usually safe to retire-
get gold plate
pick main gun
click elite and rare and look for unicorn portland helena pensylvania
alright
HELL YEA
Pick the top left one, and select unicorn
pensylvannia will get replaced pretty fast but probs still worth as your flagship bb for now
I got unicorn
Now helena
ok now bottom right theres a shop refresh button
how the hell do i get more of this
Ok done
Ok now go back to your maon Farm daily raids and buy from monthly store
Refreshed
I would say you need a BB hold on lemme look at whats available
monthly is only with core right? already did
What’s a BB
Battleship
Should I just share my screen if that’s alright
In your fleets for campaign you need a mix of Battleships and planes
its the ship you put in the middle in the back typically and is your biggest source of damage
Ok noted
Eh not worth it options should still be the same
For your BB I would grab Maryland
Alright
Ok form the same elite stuff that I clicked where I got unicorn from
https://azurlaneecgc.com/common_resource/
go to this page and click on cognitve array, it should show you all the sources
Yep, especially if you already have helena
Ok I got maryland
I didn’t get helena yet
Ok no biggie we can get her next week when that refreshes in like 2 days
It says it refreshes in 8 hours so I’m chill
Yea I cant count your right
Under rare ship now grab Shouhou, same menu as elite ships
Ok what’s the next step of me making them stronger
This will give you 2 carriers that can heal your frontline
Ok I got shouhou
From here Your fleet should look like
Maryland as your flag ship, Unicorn, and Shouhou
Yes correct
level them up, limit break them when you get more copies of them (better to save bulins for harder to get ships), retrofit them (unicorn first highest priority) and eventually gear but dont worry about that just yet
So I should level them up by doing the W1 missions
highest chapter you can comfortably clear without any of them getting destroyed
Ok bet
Then on the vanguard You'll have
Portland, Z23, and your other front ship of choice, probably a light cruiser if you can
third would be helena normally no?
TOmorrow thing
thats practically now, on the timescale this game operates on 😄
Am I alright if I do that tho?
Yea you can enhance your ships at any time but the items are where the real money is made
does the new island planner give anything useful for the main game or nah
I’m not scrapping the items and gears yet
Ok
You'll get there eventually but basically your vanguard is there to tank and your backline is to clear the screen, just level your ships and upgrade your items where you can
The infodump really is overwhelming when you first start this game eh.
Ok so that’s my current formation Portland is currently in commition so I can’t add her yet
Move maryland into the center, she has a barrage you want to go down the middle
wait for reset or something and get helena from guild shop to repalce shropshire
maryland flag
Ok what else should I change
Alright
portland will be leftmost slot, cause that slot takes most damage
Other then shropshire for helena in 8 hours that fleet comp will take you to work 9 given enough time
Alright thanks guys
Out of curiosity, can you go to depot and select items
basically the center of vanguard is where you put the squishiest one, left tankiest right second tankiest
then send screenshot
Ok sure
There u go
Ok was just seeing if you had a slip that could let you pick an SSR
Other then that the only thing that really takes ships to the next level is to make sure your upgrading their skills in the training center
So I could’ve gotten an SSR? But fumbled?
No not atm
Ok good I was worried that I fucked up my inventory
Which ship should I upgrade
Also this is my current main fleet
Who should I replace Long Island with
I would prioritize Unicorn > Portland > Maryland > Z23
Long Island or Shouhou is fine
Oh shouhou where should I place her
You would swap her with Long Island
Done what’s next
Basically just farm and upgrade where you can
See what chapter you can clear without issue and spam that until you can do the next one
Ok so that fleet will make me reach W9 quick correct?
Yep
Ok bet thanks for the help guys
Now when we say quick thats not like tomorrow quick
Ik ik it takes time to get better
this game is a slow burner with alot of farming but its IMO the best F2P game if you take your time
My only complaint is how fucking honry looking new ships/skins/loading screens are
True
i believe i'm doing the island thing wrong. i have no money and i only unlocked two characters. what is the way to get some money for research in the game, and how do i get actual new characters. i know i can spend gems on this crap, i'm not doing it
I joined azure lane for the fan service so I’m ok with it
But NOT when I’m in public
I just downloaded the game for the first time and I’m stuck in checking for updates in the loading screen
Do I just wait or is something wrong ( I’ve been here for about 5 minutes)
Reset, should be a 20gb download
Got my Nakhimov to a little past Dev29, can I spend even my DR8 prints on her?
quick tip the game doesnt explain will, after you clear a map, for each time you clear it the first 10 times you get a 2% reduction in damage taken up to 20%, so if you can barely scratch through just keep hammering
Ok thanks man much appreciated
^
320 a month? thats crazy
^
General rule of thumb is to only use blanks on the highest season they go up to
Ok so my fleet just speedrun through W1
Well yeah, but how good are the DR8s
good
meck is great
Now I need to destroy W2
Leewu is kinda like Guam
Meck is new best anti-heavy UR BB
DR8's are all good except Kansas I think but thats just because the BB class ship has so much competition for being a big stick
I'm not making them anytime soon only to be unable to use them for a year
Kansas isn't a DR
Sorry PR8
Honestly the PRs In PR8 aren't really noteworthy
Kansas suffers the usual PR BB curse, the Italian one is fairly unremarkable, and I nearly blanked out on Donski's existence while typing
Also didn't they stop making DR7 prints
You can still get them from research
How do I get more battleship retrofit blueprints
I only need 4 more of them so I can get a ship and I have 89 out of the 150 blueprints for the ship
(Medal shop is fairly overpriced tho)
Should I keep going with the research as well
Just keep grinding at the pace I am grinding at to get more stuff
In Island Planner mode, how can I get Peanut?
Is there a way to save a fleet build so i can just quickly change fleets back and fourth?
from the animal farm, its an event drop so there are only 2 pickup points on the map
The game gives you like 8(?) fleet slots that you can use and switch out willy nilly as required so yes
you have 6 fleets and 2 sub fleets
the fleet slots are not the problem, i have a limited roster still and im trying to grind a few more ships up, but i need to swap characters back and fourth. then if i want to go back to trying to make progress i got to put them back. i unfortunatly have a bad memory so im wondering if theres a save feature, in the way that you can save loadouts.
oh then in that case no
take screenshots and save em to a folder
shame, ill just screenshot i guess
is Takao - Ibuki - Asama a good vanguard? I feel like they synergies pretty good, but its hard to tell because either im fighting easy stuff or hard stuff (12-4 VS 13-1)
its not that good
world 13 isnt that difficult, you just need to have better anti air ships
is le hardi worth investing into?
hmm...i still dont have too many PR ships, maybe switch out Takao for Harbin and go Asama - Ibuki - Harbin?
that's not how fleetbuilding works
If push comes to shove majority of US ships have innately high AA stats
first off, what specific map are you trying to clear? Is this mob? boss?
I have a few decent AA ships, i just need to level them up. im working on the retro for sanny
good fleet tech
otherwise kinda average gold
and im looking at this vanguard for bossing
Normal sandy legit works fine for the purposes of shooting planes
San Diego doesnt need the retro to be stonks AA
She's already stonks AA by default, it's mainly her DPS that gets boosted by her retro and unique aug
yes, im working on leveling her up and retro, shes still low level
This is my current boss fleet for 13-1, ive leaned into fighters on the CV, Asama is one of my stronger units ATM because she was my first gold. Her skills are 10 and 8
Taco, now that's old
i just got flapjack and stuck it on indy
ship rarity is not an indicator of whether its good or not
im aware...
would do better with a battleship in the fleet
? ;-;
and more levels
she's okay, +1 DD FP at level 120
should i build a different vanguard
for what content?
i was thinking about her cause i already lbd her once
story mainly ch13 onwards
retro juneau for 13 mob aa
mob
agir - shrop - juneau
boss
ancho - helena - sandy
someone else probably knows better 
well, youre gonna want to work on kazagumo eventually for an opsi fleet
I have three white shells and Independence what do I buy from core shop next
did you buy 3 black shells?
I have zero black shells
Does anyone know how this quest works, I've walked across verdant
And there is nothing to pick up or anything
you have to send a shipgirl or manjuu to gather it from the forest manager
So do I buy black shells before stuff like angel feather or breguet or any of the purple aux stuff?
i mean, you should be able to buy them at the same time
im assuming you dont get enough core data?
I have 800 rn to spend
I bought three white shells to this point I just didn't know if there was anything else like planes or something I should get before another BB aux
is the new island worth grinding?
I'm pretty sure most if not all the purple gear in the core shop isn't worth buying
Plus it's hard to go wrong with more shells
there's like 3 or 4 that are somewhat worth it, if fairly niche
ehhhhhhh
nothing too exciting if you dont really care about it already
hull design and homing beacon are the only ones that see consistent use
kai
Ryusei Kai and it's not even close
Higher avi stat and more damage
Ryusei Kai > Ryusei > Tenzan Kai > Tenzan
Ok cool, just wondering cause sometimes purples are better that some gold
-# til
Plus if you want a seperate sakura torpedo bomber the normal ryusei is an option
only purple iirc better then most golds is the sb2c helldiver
do you get anything good or is it like quarters
Well for planes I dunno but I know someone told me I should run a purple BB gun instead of the gold one I was using so far so I just wanted to make sure
iirc there's gems in the mode but it's gonna take a long ass while and it prob wont really be worth it
I've 0 interest in it
and considering a good chunk of it doesn't even work properly
azur lane players when they ask for new content
or is designed horribly
I just want to be female commander 
There's no commander profile picture in the base game so that's kinda stupid to have female and male captain in this island thing
Is Laffey II like main tank that can be put to the front or put to the back?
She can absolutely main tank
Does anyone know where I can get peanuts for the seasonal event in island planner?
animal farm, there are two gathering spots in the ranch area
For eldridge retro for heavy boss team comps. Is the twin100kai a massive boost over the twin 127 type D?
Thanks
Wait I've been thinking, can Laffey get 2 retrofits? I never checked cause it's an epic and assumed the UR version is an event but I'm starting to realize I might be stupid
no?
laffey 2 is a completely separate ship
I'm going to make a thread for W14
spamming 12-1 or 12-4, along with exp books
alot of farming
W14 Help
Are you ready
-# aye aye captain
so um i have a very dum question...
is hanazuki good enough to actually consider using, i think shes cute
no

Probably not with like deeper level
has anyone tested G7e vs the Type 95s for 404?
was thinking that she could possibly be good in an opsi carrier fleet or smth
hanazuki does nothing for CVs in opsi carrier fleets
kazagumo:
oh i thought aerial support was a carrier dmg buff, not an aa skill
its a self buff

reading the skill descriptions is a good idea instead of taking the skill name as what it does 
i was remembering a different skill on a different dd
ARA or Aerial raid assistance are the ones worth using, even then kazegumo is pretty easy to get these days]
yea i have kazagumo. shes in my opsi carrier fleet lol
Just wondering, what is the version number of this update? Just curious.
I don't know if they release that info. Let me check
Managed to find it. Version 9.2.169
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