gameplay-help

[small violet]

True enough

But is something to keep an eye on eventually. Especially when you are out of gems. Thanks to doing that, i have 1k gems saved atm and hoping to save more as time goes on

[void walrus]

MLB is pretty much required tho

[hardy creek]

Who should I do next on pr, I've already done:

• Roon
• Louis
• Monarch
• FdG
• Cheshire
• Anchor
• Agir
• Hakuryuu
• Plymouth
• Kearsage
• Nakhimov

[undone plover]

shimanto

[hardy creek]

Alright I'll do that next, how about Augustus? I've seen some people use her

[rain bobcat]

is having 2 +13s better than having a plygun+rainbow aa on BB?

[viscid swift]

what

[rain bobcat]

is having 2 +13 golds better in opsi

if the plygun/rainbow aa is like +11 or 10

[thin shore]

and how do i get em to level 120?

[viscid swift]

again, what

it's not exactly universal

[azure coyote]

Where can I look at the abilities of ships I don't have unlocked yet?

[grizzled creek]

In the “handbook” tab do I wanna start/unlock a specific dev mission

[rain bobcat]

its just comparing dmg though isn't it? is the bonus %dmg better than the fp and hit bonus from the rainbows?

just against opsi bosses like arbiter and abyssal

[viscid swift]

gold what's though

[rain bobcat]

staag and a random gold cl gun

so its just a difference between the %dmg, and extra fp+hit from the rainbow ply and austin gun

[viscid swift]

well I would argue neither gold equip is worth +13ing at this point to begin with but

I'd take the extra 5 hit and much better AA of the 76mm over a stagg anyday

[rain bobcat]

kind of already have it from a long ass time ago

[viscid swift]

as for the CL gun, kind of a wash

[remote yarrow]

How much currency did you need to trade for the 2nd UR copy if you did all the event missions? 165?

[viscid swift]

95

[remote yarrow]

Is it because it lasts 3 weeks?

[uneven knot]

i just got roon to dev24 is there an estimate on how much gold it would take to raise her to dev30?

[remote yarrow]

Depends if you do 10 or 15 per day o w/e number

[uneven knot]

would it just be smarter to do 15k gold a day so i can take advantage of the discounts

also is my research prioritization bad

[remote yarrow]

it's awful

[viscid fulcrum]

is there a priority for shipyard or what

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/#research_project_priority

[uneven knot]

LMFAOOO no wonder i feel like i don’t get that many prints i’ll check that guide out

[remote yarrow]

Ignore H research if you don't have over 400 or 600 cubes

[bleak junco]

Ain’t it just random though… don’t think you can always get the blueprint for priority ships/prototypes for gears (at least not the ones you’re focusing on)

[viscid swift]

well it would help if they actually took good researches to improve their overall rate

or setting research focus to a season that was actually worth doing

[remote yarrow]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus give that a read too

Cuz you are wrong both on the Season Focus and Research types

[uneven knot]

ngl i was just choosing whichever was free which makes sense that i was not doing it correctly 😭

[undone plover]

should be 85 cheeky
our initial math assumed 20 days for some dumb reason

[sweet delta]

[stark quiver]

[warped acorn]

is hakuhou for boss or mob in campaign?

[late flame]

she should be able to do either

[warped acorn]

oh damn, thinking who to replace in my fleet prob unicorn

[native robin]

Is it possible to use the triple 460 main gun mount for Champagne, considering that she has a 40% decrease loading time for her main gun?

Y'know, the triple 460 has a long ass reloading time

[fallen verge]

will there be any more opportunities to buy this new alsace skin before her rerun or would i have to wait till next jp anni for it to come back?

[stark quiver]

2026 black friday prob
or some event in between maybe

[stark quiver]

she will be desynced from the rest of your bbs who run champy guns or any 20s bb gun

[inland shoal]

Atm it looks like every JP anni reruns the skin of the previous JP anni

[sweet delta]

So what gun to use

[stark quiver]

not 460

[fallen verge]

alsace should be around may next year right?

[uneven knot]

is level 3 worth doing in opsi or should i only target higher

[stark quiver]

but for mobbing itll work ig

[stark quiver]

all coordinate loggers are worth using

[uneven knot]

bet ty

[native robin]

can you tell me more?

[stark quiver]

basically, this is a champagne with 460 vs lion with champy gun
champagne gets off 5 shots in a 77s battle vs lion's 4
which means she and lion arent synced together, and that can mess up either timings or be out of sync with other buffers in the fleet

but if you are using champagne in campaign boss/mob, then 460 is alright

[native robin]

I see, thank you, I'll watch out for her unusually fast salvo rld

[fiery pelican]

If I missed Essex retrofit item so there's no way to retrofit her right?

[soft raft]

you will have to wait until her retro item event reruns next EN Anniv

[fiery pelican]

I thought she is not that good

[rigid onyx]

what champagn gun is alright? I dont think there's one that would properly sync to 20s gun timings

what you sent seems fairly synced for champagne

[tardy skiff]

If u leave ur guild do u lose the upgrades

[stark quiver]

its not synced

champy is never synced

[rigid onyx]

so what gun is good on champy if not 460
so why do you say 460 is bad on champy unless in a campaign context

you said 460 is bad on champy because it desyncs from other BBs in the fleet but every gun on champy desyncs

[slow fox]

It's so hard to search for ehp queries now smh

3/4 of the entries are the @odd root smh

-# smhsmhsmhsmhsmh

[stark quiver]

just make it a paid service

[ocean oriole]

Nah

[eager mulch]

mehp

[proven current]

So guys, im in the final lap for my beautiful Admiral Nakhimov, now, IM JUST 21% IN THE 2.000.000 EXP, AND I CANT WAIT MORE

So, im still pretty rookie in the stats/framing thinga honestly, even if i play this game for 3 years straight, so, wich one of these i should level up and put in my Soviet fleet for grind exp faster?

this is my actual soviet fleet (yeah ikr, perhaps not the best formation)

and wich would be the best level for grinding? i have been using 9-4

[void walrus]

12-4 is best for coins

[proven current]

And for EXP?

[void walrus]

Also 12-4, I think

[dark hazel]

Research xp is either main fleet or vanguard - main fleet is backline vanguard is frontline. 12-1 best for xp

[void walrus]

Any higher and the gimmicks get silly

[proven current]

Interesting, i should level up my soviet fleet to 110+ prob

[dark hazel]

Faction fleets aren't good and are not recommended

[void walrus]

Yeah
For any fleet, Higher Rarity is better. But MLB (Max Limit Break) is essential

Ditch Bearn for Unicorn

[proven current]

Beautiful one

[void walrus]

Uni is one of the best healers ingame

[proven current]

Pamiat Mercuria enchanced version its worth it?

[void walrus]

Probably?

[proven current]

been upgrading her retrofit

[void walrus]

Kronshtadt should be your first UR

[proven current]

My first UR was New Jersey

[void walrus]

First build UR, I know about the mission UR but failed to mention it

You can choose a UR after 400 spent cubes

[grizzled creek]

As a newer account I wanna do B1 til I can reach the Ds n stuff for the event ?

[void walrus]

Don't rush yourself with building, just do 1 build a day

[void walrus]

Do the highest level you can, and you should be fine

[viscid swift]

right now you should forget about farming XP and push to W12 if you haven't already

[stark quiver]

me when event exists

[viscid swift]

also Bearn META is a META faction ship

[grizzled creek]

Thx ya

[proven current]

you got a point there

[viscid swift]

and running a faction fleet is pointless for combat data collection grinding

you only ever need main fleet or vanguard XP

[void walrus]

It might just be vibes, which is ok

[proven current]

Ooohhh

dammit

[viscid swift]

also yeah, there's ongoing event you should be farming as well

[void walrus]

For the main fleet, Sov Ros is good for boss fleets, and Sov Bel is better for mobbing.
Avora should be in your vangaurd, and you should get her module if you don't have it allready

[proven current]

ye i do

[viscid swift]

it doesn't matter

it's farming in W12 on safe

you can use just about anything there and it works

[proven current]

Where do i get her module?

[stark quiver]

Dont get it

[proven current]

nothing, i found it

[void walrus]

You can just craft it (It needs coins, lots of them)
Just go into her module slot and you will see it

[proven current]

daaammit i spend my coins in the banner

[void walrus]

Eh

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't bother honestley

[stark quiver]

thats fine, dont craft the unique augment
its a waste of mats and resources

[void walrus]

3-5 builds a day is good enough

[proven current]

never knew what they do honestly sooo

[viscid swift]

you don't need it to farm in W12 and you hopefully won't be using her for anything else

[proven current]

i do 7-10... i had been saving like 200 cubes for this

[proven current]

so only having one soviet ship in my main fleet its enough for the xp grinding?

[stark quiver]

just bonus stats and sometimes skill upgrade
which is unimportant for what youre doing
and avroras unique augment is not good

[viscid swift]

well you'd preferably run 3 to maximize XP gain

[proven current]

any recomendation of the ones i showed above? or doesnt really matters?

[void walrus]

Main Or vanguard research

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

might wanna give these a read

[stark quiver]

[proven current]

interesting, never saw those

[void walrus]

You probably want Sov Bel instead of Sov Ros, as bel is better for mobbing (Slightly)

[proven current]

that slightly makes any important difference?

[stark quiver]

no

[void walrus]

No

[viscid swift]

Poltava, Impero, Rossiya

Italian ships also qualify for Nahkimov's CDC

[proven current]

Oohhh perfect, i have those 3

[viscid swift]

I know

[void walrus]

It's 8% less damage on the third and beyond sortie, to be specific
as opposed to 5% more ACC per NP or DE ship (Up to four) for the first two sorties

[viscid swift]

I recced them because you already had them leveled up

again, rather irrelevant for farming events and W12 on safe

[grizzled creek]

In the handbook do I wanna unlock any of these specific “dev” missions?

[stark quiver]

is 100 blue ap box normal

[ocean oriole]

Guys is this team okay for PVP? Or should I add unicorn?

Should I switch somebody for Helena or San Diego?

[rain vine]

#pvp

[stark quiver]

its not ok
check the pinned sheet in #pvp

[ocean oriole]

Cool thank you.

[rustic robin]

How to unlock that?

[soft raft]

tf even is that?

[late flame]

ask #al-general

[rustic robin]

a interaction in alsace's skin.
kay

[soft raft]

oh is this some sort of L2D shenanagins

yeah AL general is where the skin experts live

[round hare]

I’m not trying to coin her but I’m wondering why it doesn’t let me, considering that i can coin FdG

[soft raft]

Because currently only PR1-4 and the PR5 PRs can be coined

[cunning bison]

im running u556 meta, and i plan to run i404 with her, what other sub would fit this? (not homura)

[round hare]

Ahh i see

[broken bluff]

Anyone know the usual time between UR Banners nowadays? Thinking of pulling for a second copy of Hakuhou

[viscid swift]

Unzen is due for rerun in the next few months

[soft raft]

Dont pull for dupes man

[viscid swift]

and we have a Date a Live Collab in November and a new UR event in December

[broken bluff]

Date a Live collab? Damn

[cunning bison]

oo speculated faction?

[soft raft]

New URs are every Feb, May, Sept, and Dec
and UR Reruns can happen anytime in between

[broken bluff]

Time to save then 🙏

[viscid swift]

don't know, don't care

[soft raft]

And there are better places to speculate than here

[autumn yarrow]

Are they ever gonna add another us ur bb

[soft raft]

Do we look like we would know

[stark quiver]

Yes

[round hare]

I have access to develop most people in shipyard, who should i develop next? Currently 7/8 missing like 10k xp for Nakh (not seatle)

[stark quiver]

We don’t have any leaks or info until the actual event comes if it ever does

[autumn yarrow]

I see

[round hare]

Any besides Plymouth? since I’m already half way retroing sandy and im missing like 50 tech points

[wind hazel]

agir avp, then whatever else you want really

[stark quiver]

not seattle

[round hare]

i actually have done 6/8 agir and AvP, the only thing i struggle is xp cuz i dont have built ironblood vanguards and main fleet… any recommendations on that?

💀

[wind hazel]

just pick any 3 you want really, boost their level a bit to ~90s, go level them at 12-1

like roon z23 emden work, bismarck alvitr gnei work. though maybe run into aa issue a bit 💀

maybe use graf zep

[round hare]

Ill try that out, thank you :)

[weary edge]

should i have aquila second gear fighter or bomber

[stark quiver]

what are you doing with her

[weary edge]

mobbing

[stark quiver]

fighter probably

[wind hazel]

mobbing where

[weary edge]

w9 and w10

[wind hazel]

just go db

[weary edge]

dragon ball?

[wind hazel]

dive bomber

[round hare]

Dive bomber

[weary edge]

oh right

[wind hazel]

@ mods

[round hare]

[stark quiver]

no gif

[wind hazel]

that's right, or i call mods

[plain saffron]

@ Moderators

[round hare]

Is z47 worth leveling, she looks funny, and how far she could go with copium that shes not meta?

[wind hazel]

if you have her mlb, you can level her, sure

otherwise not really a priority

lv1
nvm dont use her

your gold bulin is better invested somewhere else

like this little turd you have

[round hare]

LMAO I KNOW, i was trying to get level before mlb cuz its more satisfying, i definitely have enough gold bulins, also got enough for retro too :)

[wind hazel]

do you? i dont think so

unless there's another row of bulin above

[round hare]

Still have core shop and unclaim from free bp cuz they take up so much space

[round hare]

Ye there is indeed, i skipped it on ss

[wind hazel]

guess you have enough indeed

[round hare]

Ive been consistently only getting on, do dailies and stuff, get off for so long😂, resources isnt really a concern

[tropic tusk]

isnt really a concern ofcouse u didnt even level up anything yet

[round hare]

Yeah ik, been racking up resources

[rapid summit]

Is unzen the next rr?

Next update/this month?

[forest palm]

best we can say is soon™

[fallow cape]

should i mlb the new UR CV ships first or mlb the UR SSV one? im lack off bulin. my main fleet is fine now, is the new UR CV big gap other UR CVs?

[wind hazel]

it's the strongest anti heavy CV out there

[fallow cape]

🇹 🇾

[wind hazel]

which also has not many use in the next 2 months lol

[forest palm]

same can kind of be said for 404, she can kind of just sit in ops doing nothing as well

but ya HKHO over 404 tbh

[wind hazel]

assuming you have everything i would rate 404 better for campaign than hakuhou

[forest palm]

though if they're already done with 15, or have a sub fleet already that's a horse of a differen't color

[stark quiver]

I’d rate neither

[wind hazel]

both arent used in pvp, trash :shima:

[forest palm]

filthy PvP enjoyers

[fallow cape]

idk i have every ur ships but not the one eye german ship and its Vanguard UR ship, which named Z-something. but struggling 15-1, maybe gear issue

sorry stupid english

[forest palm]

no Fritz, or Z52, what are your subs looking like right now?

[stark quiver]

Awful of you people to assume I enjoy PvP

[wind hazel]

try reading https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15 and see if it helps

[tardy trench]

should i keep pulling ?

[wind hazel]

did you get hakuhou already?

[tardy trench]

yes

[wind hazel]

then stop lul

go back to 1 Light daily, save your cubes

[fallow cape]

I haven't really paid attention to SS, and I'm planning to build an SS fleet since i got the UR SSV. also come with trash gear

[forest palm]

looks like you should invest in 404 then

[fallow cape]

ty, then i will mlb 404 first to farming Opsi. i think i dont need new UR CV yet since my current CV fleet still work fine

[forest palm]

HKHO is the best CV for Anti-Heavy and replaces Shinano in the current top Heavy comp, but right now there's no major heavy content that you'd need HKHO for immediately

[fallow cape]

how about Essex retrofit. which comp i should use that ship? im thinking about replace its with Independence retrofit in mob fleet but not sure if its work

[wind hazel]

can put her on support fleet

[whole crypt]

maybe next META

also can't find 404

[supple wraith]

we can't auto campaign hard mode and clear escort nodes right?

[wind hazel]

ye if you wanna clear escort you gotta disable clearing mode

[spare harbor]

should i ahve a boss and mob fleet in opsi like for story mode
or should they be balanced

[wind hazel]

if you just started, just use your campaign fleet

if you have more than just campaign fleet raised, then make 1 mob fleet, the rest dedicated boss fleets

[woven star]

If I decide to focus on I-404 fleet with all her skills what best SS composition will be? I-19 plus one from Sardegna's SS?

[azure coyote]

Should I craft this for z23

[wind hazel]

no

[azure coyote]

Why?

[wind hazel]

not worth it, gives little impact on your fleet, z23 herself is a transitional ship, so not great value at all

[azure coyote]

Alright

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys, where can I find the prototype shop priority list?

I searched on Google and couldn't get anything good...

[gilded carbon]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

under Ship priority by Season

[ocean oriole]

Thank u 🙏

[rapid summit]

Is there a Ur tier list on campaign/events?

[supple wraith]

am basically at 50k cumulative event points rn, can I just go and push Campaign again since dailies will get me to 55k anw?

[tepid spire]

Where could I check for the best ships in the game?

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys, when should I start farming coins for the next UR event?

Isn't the next UR event right after this one?

[tropic tusk]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=992971658#gid=992971658
theres no best but theres end game usesage

[stable badger]

well. this is embarresing. just noticed i don't have the bagde for the last Iron blood event...

even though i unlocked everything on it... minus the story

[red sapphire]

Good morning chat. Is this a good mob fleet?

[rapid shard]

Little overkill with double healer unless your pushing W14 or 15

[late flame]

not if percy+unicorn together, its redundant*

[red sapphire]

I see. So, i swap one of the healers?

[rapid shard]

Yeah keep uni but swap pers out

[haughty skiff]

what chapter is this for ?

and as others have said, percy + unicorn is redundant ; aquila, independence or saratoga retrofit would be more useful than percy alongside unicorn

also the torp bombers aren't for mobbing, those are converging

i'd recommend reading this;

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[red sapphire]

For now, general use. I'm on chapter 12 for now, I'm not stuck or anything just grinding the event a little bit

[red sapphire]

Alright, thanks

[tepid spire]

Thank you

[late flame]

if its chapter12 you can get away with anything tbh

[haughty skiff]

it'd be better to post your dock and then go from there; the requirements for W12 / W13 and W14 for example are quite different

W12 is basically anything so long as you have levels and budget gear

[rapid shard]

Ive got 2 lv70s in W12-4 mob fleet and they survive no issue with just uni

[late flame]

w13 is less forgiving with AA but yeah doable with most random setups
w14 and 15 will be an entirely different story yes

[tropic tusk]

u can do w12-4 with uni and all random as long as u got decent gear

[rapid shard]

Oh i know, that was meant for Raka. W12 once safe is random bullshit go long as uni and a decent tank is there

[red sapphire]

That's the stuff I have

[rain bobcat]

for the soyuz nakhi lion comp, how much will it affect if you use alsace over lion if you want to use the fleet against all armor types and just switch gear

[haughty skiff]

firstly i just want to state that URs are useless unless limit broken, so you shouldn't use them for progression; secondly, only invest in URs if you will max limit break them - don't split bulins between URs

secondly, for URs; MLB Hakuhou since you have her almost there and then check back in after you get those

musashi / unicorn retrofit / independence retrofit
cheshire / shimakaze / neptune

lion / shinano / haku
portland retrofit / helena / shimanto

should work just fine for W12 + W13

[red sapphire]

Alright! Thank you

[haughty skiff]

sub out helena for sirius if you can't get the timing correct or if you're too lazy to raise helena

you should but understandable if you want to push W12 as soon as possible

[red sapphire]

Thank you so much. Will do ^^

[haughty skiff]

I'm a bit unaware about Lion, but i don't see why you can't do this with the Lion / Soyuz / Nakhi comp already ?

[rain bobcat]

I have all UR BUT lion

[haughty skiff]

should've clarified that; then just use alasce, yeah lmao

[rain bobcat]

yeah but can it still kill all bosses? because I know lion is still a noticeable difference even though alsace is really good

[fierce lantern]

Is the normal version of Amagi good

[haughty skiff]

Depends on the gear, fleet tech and boss but it'll likely be worse but it seems like the best you can do

[haughty skiff]

not noteworthy; just a older BC, not recommended to invest in as a newbie

[late flame]

+amagi bc skins is not interchangeable with amagi cv

[quaint estuary]

which subs are good to pair with i-404 if I dont have any USS subs nor homura? maybe raffaello and baracca? or u-556?

[oblique canyon]

I'm assuming you meant Leonardo not Rafaello? Maggiore and Leonardo Da Vinci seem like common pairs, and I'm using them myself for the extra out of ASR attacks

[late flame]

raffaello is not a sub.. anyway any of baracca / 1-58 / 1-19 / wolfpack subs

[quaint estuary]

yeah I meant Leonardo sorry

[twin bronze]

What other CV gives RLD tech?

[haughty skiff]

I-404 + Baracca + da Vinci if you lack fishpack and homura

Subs are quite niche and only used in W15 or for min-maxxing OPSI, so it isn't worth investing UR bulins into I-404 as a newbie

[haughty skiff]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

use that for everything fleet tech related

[quaint estuary]

yeah that's exactly what Im doing. Im min maxing all opsi fleets and the sub fleet has been the same for like the past 4 years

[oblique canyon]

I404 has an unconditional accuracy and damage buff, a burn, and a barrage for both surface fleets, I feel like that itself is worth having her around at all times if oil isnt an issue

[quaint estuary]

I was sold at the barrage

[haughty skiff]

I-404 is the most impactful min-max due to the crossfleet, so don't stress too much about it

Flasher reruns like early next year as she's in Guam / Laffey II's rerun, so you can just wait for that without really any drawback

I-404 / Flasher (Flag) / Archerfish (Albacore if no Archerfish) is as good as it gets

[quaint estuary]

oh ok then I can just wait, only thing I regret is not getting homura when that event was out. Didnt expect her to be a godly ss

[hard mantle]

new player here, was just curious on how to get Taihou

[haughty skiff]

SS is so niche and I-404 is a huge power boost to SS in general so she's all that really matters

[haughty skiff]

gambling; don't waste cubes pulling on the permanent banner for her

as a newbie focus on trying to get the current event ships, such as hakuhou / oumi and i-404 / asama from the event shop

[hard mantle]

I see

[haughty skiff]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

read this as it'll answer 80% of your questions and how to actually play

[hard mantle]

thanks 🙏

[quaint estuary]

Thanks for the help!

[fierce lantern]

Who’s the next permanent Ur if it’s known

[barren token]

Musashi is due in November

[fierce lantern]

Is there a list?

[wind hazel]

how do you know it's november

[tropic tusk]

there is but theres no excit date

also that list is just assume

based on past expericence its after UR first release > wait 2 year for rerun > perma

[supple wraith]

do yall 3s Hard Mode stages for guaranteed Retro prints?

[elfin condor]

When doing story should I 3s clear them or should I just speed through them for the wisdom cubes

[soft raft]

Ideally you'd get the stage down to safe threat lvl before 3*'ing

[fierce lantern]

Speaking of safe threat do I have to spam clear a mission to make it safe

[onyx flame]

every time you beat the boss node it helps bring it down closer to safe after you 100% a stage (different from 3*)

[elfin condor]

Does bringing a stage down to safe threat change anything?

[kindred grotto]

on top of enemy ships doing less damage as threat decreases, enemy ships have their levels reduced at safe, so they do even less damage, and your ships do more damage, based on normal level difference mechanics

[supple wraith]

when 3sing a hard mode stage, are we just doomed to consume much more oil cause oil cap not working on non-clearing mode?

[eternal basalt]

Just fight it in boss-only mode, 3-star clear guaranteed

[red sapphire]

Hi, what's the best slot 1 torpedo bomber for Haku?

[supple wraith]

no I mean, for the 3s clear reward for the retro prints

[eternal basalt]

^, maaaaaybe you need to disable to get more of the second star kills in though

[supple wraith]

yea that's what am saying

that basically has no oil cap right?

[eternal basalt]

As soon as you have enough you can just leave though

[slender cobalt]

What ships is the best for mobbing in W13-W15?

[soft raft]

Short answer: There's lots of ways to approach W13-15, esp considering how different each of them are. But safe to say Unicorn still remains an absolute must
Long answer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[slender cobalt]

Oh wow, thanks for the spreadsheet

[inner idol]

What's the best sub team you make rn?

[late flame]

probably flasher/archerfish/404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhvKc4iZsU

[fleet berry]

The extra cost is minor in the long run. It's not like you'll run hundred of sorties to lower your threat level.

Better using more ships to ensure you can kill the enemies rather than gambling with fewer ships but needing to restart which consumes more oil.

[supple wraith]

I get it, its just painful to lose like 720 oil to kill 10 escorts so I just wanted to make sure there no other work-around

[wind hazel]

3* the one that matters first, leave the rest for later, when you can 1:1 or use the least amount of oil to clear

8H and above have oil cap for what it's worth

[left cedar]

imagine gamble to spen less oil, and in last node u get wrecked and have to done everything again speding a bit more than twice cuz u have to build a new fleet that use more Oil ...

also if its about Hard mode(campaign), the oil consuption isnt a problem since, its gona be boss node only

[manic spear]

Wth I got the UR in first 10 pull

How good is she?

[late flame]

#trophy-room is that way for bragging, but yes UR is good

[kindred grotto]

any sakura torp bomber that isn't the ryusei kai (since that should be in slot 3), whichever that syncs best with your supports

[grizzled creek]

Is Alsace still considered good? Is she as good/better then the new UR?

[balmy skiff]

which fleet is better?
U-trio or Homura-Baracca-I404

[fleet berry]

Tbf any conv TB can work; having a Sakura plane will buff her avi by 10%.

[wind hazel]

still good

[grizzled creek]

Is she still one of the better ones or just good ? I’m mostly tryna see if it’s worth tryna recover my account with her or keep my new one with the new UR

[left cedar]

of course a UR SS that buffer cross fleet is better just by this, but, aside the cross fleet, she just nail it in dmg ... so of course a Fleet using I404 is better

also she brings quite a flexibility to SSs, of course top tier already difined, but if u lack any of top tiers, u can change for others that it will bring quite gud usability

[wind hazel]

still being used in current meta showdown

that should tell you how relevant she is

[grizzled creek]

I see, that’s good news then. If I recover that is it worth going after then new one then or saving u think or would it depend on its roster

[wind hazel]

new UR=pull

[grizzled creek]

Bet thx u

[left cedar]

till now this apply, one less than others, but yeah, New URs = go for it

lets see for how much time they can keep the endless powercreeping URs in every new UR Event

[balmy skiff]

is i-404 the lowest priority MLB'ing out of all these ships that i own that isn't mlb'ed yet?
(Mogador,Trafalgar,Unzen,UvH,I-404 and Laff2)

[left cedar]

imo I404 can be 0LB and still rock it, cuz she can cross fleet buff, so her main use is like, being there

from this others, i cant say each one is better, cuz i dont like DDs

PS: UvH should be MLB with her own coppies, but u have to go Shin MLB first by her own coppies

[south shard]

Where should I spend my 4 bulins

I-404(4 ⭐), Hakuhuo (3 ⭐), Fritz Rumey (4 ⭐), Bismarck Zwei (4 ⭐)

[wind hazel]

traf priority, ask again after unzen rerun and see if you got dupe or not lol

[wind hazel]

show all ur

[tropic tusk]

who should i mlb first? got all except unzen

[wind hazel]

traf

[left cedar]

why people still try to equally MLB all they ships ...
i will never understood that

Rumy and Zwei are quite awesome in general Rumy for campaign, Zwei for BB Fleets

[tropic tusk]

u mean me?

[left cedar]

oooh, i dint notice Haku there

[wind hazel]

maybe it's from duplicate, don't assume

[tropic tusk]

3q

i can actually do 1 more tho who else

[left cedar]

dammit, Mamagi, Kron, Traf ... all them almost MLB but not ...

[south shard]

Sorry casual player lol, so I'm both old yet a noob

[wind hazel]

hmm this kinda tricky depends if you wanna push w15 or not

[left cedar]

in theory is there a chance of Mamagi, Haku and Haky works for Anti Heavy without freezy ?

[south shard]

Hmmm, I barely do Campaign ever since I was informed that 12/13 is all you need for gold and exp

[left cedar]

yeah, W12 its best farm land in game, cuz u can easy lvl up all ur ships there, and get enough XP and Coins from it

[south shard]

The 4 bulins by the way are newly bought lol

[wind hazel]

if you dont plan to push campaign then zwei fritz traf. campaign it's a bit different, i'd probably do raff amagi first

[south shard]

Hmmm lemme try

[grizzled mortar]

the equipment guide lists the iris twin 203 as the second best HE CA gun, but i see there's another beyond it in the gear lab tree - is that one not worth crafting?

[wind hazel]

nah

[left cedar]

idk, alot can be considered here ...
rumy rocks when its about Med and light bosses, but need freezy for sure
Haku an Mamagi nail it when its about heavy, can be doable without freezy, but better with it

mixed fleets its a option for cheap and high dmg, but not enough for top notch ones here

campaign its quite a investment, since no Musa, u need quite alot in gears to be able to beat W15, so u need Raff, Rumy, Y2 and quite alot top gears to ... so is a long road investment

[tranquil rock]

rumey is also the best carrier to put in the support fleet for w15 iirc

[fast frigate]

is hakuhou worth to pull

[left cedar]

Rumy is top notch in general, being in Supp Fleet or in a fleet ... cuz is alot of dmg just taking planes down and dropping few bombs

[wind hazel]

i'd just save, mlb the one you need in the future

[hardy creek]

What gear should I put on ply?

[tropic tusk]

anything i can replace z52 bird with?

[south shard]

Made a mistake lol

I accidentally did full MLB Amagi and Zwei rather than fritz and traf

[rocky lake]

Out of these what should go on Vanguard and Oumi?

[left cedar]

twin 410 ... i suppose u are kind begginer for lacking of gears ...

[wind hazel]

aa gun depends on where you're using her, the 2nd aux too to an extent i guess

[left cedar]

and yeah, purple gear beating the shitty out of gold gears ...

[rain vine]

toolkit

[rocky lake]

yeah im trying to get the mats together to get the US 16" triple Mk6 turrets as from what ive seen those are like

the gold standard for good BB guns that arent UR

[left cedar]

406mk6 is similar to 410, main diff is 410 is faster and better for mobbing cuz fires quickly and more barrage to helps with mobs
406 have more bullets, better for bossing since more dmg in Single Target

[wind hazel]

just open eagle union tech boxes

[left cedar]

this is a general explanation, things a bit complex than that

[rocky lake]

👍

[fast frigate]

whats the best way to farm cubes

[frigid sedge]

Is there any lifehack to complete it quick?

[wind hazel]

playing daily, do cube commissions

[silk helm]

farm w12 w a full main line of IB ships

should go by pretty quick, IB main xp isn't bad

[frigid sedge]

what is w12? chapter or what?

[silk helm]

yh chapter 12

[red hawk]

how big of a boost is the fate sim for ships like sanrui and roon, for a lower account, are they useable right at dev 30

[forest palm]

15 Luck is quite a boost in terms of surviability, the skill upgrades are pretty servicable as well

[red hawk]

how does luck work exactly

[forest palm]

I tend to suck at explaining Luck past that it can determine if you avoid enemy fire and that it's weighted against the enemies' luck

[red hawk]

so it's another stat that can help you get some more enemy misses

[forest palm]

it can also help with hitting a target

[atomic comet]

Hello , for musashi , i should get this one or this one ? for OPS

[forest palm]

Twin 410 Kai, yes

[red hawk]

i don't need it perfectly mathed out, the concept is enough thanks. oh so it's basically almost like a "lucky dodge lucky hit" stat that can give you extra on top of your base eva/hit

[forest palm]

ya eva hit and crit

[atomic comet]

oh thanks

[red hawk]

i know I probably explained that poorly but I get what it's supposed to provide anyway

[forest palm]

that's why the most massive part of FS for PR/DR is the luck cause it is a noticable improvement, and FdG is sort of the prime example of what Luck and some Extra Hit can do for a ship

[frigid sedge]

where can i find guide for equipment for girls?

[sinful fern]

Where can i get wisdom cubes aside from daily and weekly quests?

[autumn yarrow]

does plymouth have fs?

[zenith heron]

not yet

[ivory pawn]

Commissions mostly. Plus some from events, first time clears, handbook, and keep an eye on supply shop and merit shop in case some show up there. (don't buy with gems!)

[autumn yarrow]

will they make pr5 bps buyable with coins anytime soon? i really dont wanna focus pr5 to dev 30 plymouth

[silk helm]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[wind hazel]

next year

coin update usually drop around january

[hot turret]

A coin update?

What's that?

[wind hazel]

read the question

[sharp comet]

oath skins r next week?

[frigid sedge]

ty

[sinful fern]

The game doesnt show the secretary change button and im stuck with special secretary how do i fix this

[peak fable]

hello, I was wondering what the recommended way is for a new player to level low level ships? I honestly just wanna MLB them for dock space. Just don't know if I should go low level stages with full low level fleets or if I should level them one by one in high level stages.

[sweet delta]

Use exp packs

[left cedar]

book them to 70, MLB, gear them with gud gears, throw them to 12-1, reach 120, repeat process till u 120 all ships in game

have fun

[azure coyote]

Who is better

Warsprite or roon

[late flame]

They do different things

[left cedar]

[azure coyote]

Yeah well I know that

[late flame]

Therefore you cannot do any direct comparison

[left cedar]

kinda, wtf is this comparation
one is Main another is VG
one is "build ship" other is "PR Ship"
one is a BB other is a CA

[late flame]

It's like comparing a lemon with say leek

[plain saffron]

since when they show how much event currency they gives??

[azure coyote]

Oh wait I thought roon and warsprite were both VG

[left cedar]

more like comparing a glock with a RPG

[wind hazel]

since long ago

[plain saffron]

how long

[wind hazel]

idk

[late flame]

-# nagami doing some weird research

[wind hazel]

as long as since they changed the event format i guess?

[plain saffron]

time to scrub streamers vod

[sinful fern]

Is oumi limited ship?

[wind hazel]

ye

[late flame]

Event limited yes

[azure coyote]

Also the game literally refuses to give me T3 blueprints for retrofit, is this a luck issue?

[wind hazel]

also ye

[late flame]

It's called RNG

[plain saffron]

it's not guaranteed

chance to receive

[azure coyote]

Well looks like I'm not retrofitting my ships any time soon

[late flame]

buy from shop

[azure coyote]

Which shop?

[ivory pawn]

Keep an eye on guild shop. Can technically buy from medal shop, but imo is a scam.

[azure coyote]

Not the medal shop 😭

[wind hazel]

3* your hard mode

[soft raft]

retro prints from medal shop are fairly overpriced anyways

[azure coyote]

Yeah well I've been doing hard mode and the only T3 BP I got are from the missions

[silk helm]

can the yuudachi meta fleet also ohko mintsuu?

[wind hazel]

yes

[silk helm]

dont need a freeze or slow?

[sweet delta]

Ohko all light metas except kawakaze and Wichita consistently. Add Eldridge, ohko all light metas consistently. Unless u're new player

[silk helm]

ty

[oblique mortar]

can someone give me that one UR tier list?

[tropic tusk]

ther is a end game tier list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=992971658#gid=992971658

[atomic comet]

normal if i cant equip CA gun on 3rd slot of hinderburg ?

[soft raft]

She only can do that when she's D30

[tropic tusk]

wanst it dev 25 ?

[soft raft]

no

[atomic comet]

oh ok

[soft raft]

D25 is where she gets the rest of her bulk like all research ship

[forest palm]

even then she's not a tank, and she's pretty mid CA without that 2nd gun slot

[soft raft]

yeah
she's basically all in on the DPS CA role
Which also locks her into OpSi mob as her most realistic use case

[forest palm]

Hindenburg is the new age Drake, though unironically Drake is at least more beneficial as she can put out damage, tank, and self sustain at least up to 14

mob wise anyway

[austere grove]

Is fairy garnet good? Trying to use anti submarine support in stage 15

[forest palm]

I assume you mean Fairey Gannet, which yes it's the best ASW Plane you can get

[austere grove]

Thx

[sinful fern]

I need to get 300ish gems, where can i get them without buying or commissions? Is it possible??

[hot turret]

Get 3 stars on some lvls for free 50 gems

[late flame]

If you are f2p don't buy paid skins

[sinful fern]

I did get 3 stars but none gave me gems

[soft raft]

was this in campaign or event

[sinful fern]

Campaign

[atomic comet]

your tought for OPS ? i know i need to lvl some ship but , im asking about the fleet building ( hakuhou is lvl 1 but i'll swap with hakuryuu )

[soft raft]

what is Mikasa doing thre 💀

also why is Helena in the CV fleet when it's more easier to sync BBs with her

[wind hazel]

looks very bad

[hot turret]

Weird, check missions for which level give gems at 3 stars

[viscid swift]

this fleet building is ass

[wind hazel]

put agir trafalgar plymouth with your lion fleet. move kazagumo to your IJN cv fleet, move implacable over as well since i assume you dont have eldridge, kick out hakuryuu. let anchorage be with kaza helena

[viscid swift]

consistently the tankiest ships are in the middle, Kazagumo doesn't stack with Kearsarge

parrallel TBs in a boss fleet, why

[atomic comet]

i have eldridge with her item but lvl 70

[viscid swift]

the lack of Staggs for the main fleet is concerning

[wind hazel]

yeah that's the same as having none, lv120/125 then we can let her in

[sinful fern]

I dont plan to play al seriously so..

[atomic comet]

dont worry about it , just putting ship

[viscid swift]

really questionable chices of aux guns not that it matters in this context

I also presume Hindenburg is not dev 30

[atomic comet]

25

[tropic tusk]

anyone know wht can i replace the chicken on z52 with?

[viscid swift]

any HP aux

[wind hazel]

any hp aux, use 76mm

[atomic comet]

but i think i could 30 her ( 186 series 7 + 86 series 6 )

[sonic arch]

What's the most efficient way of farming cog chips? Oil is not an issue

[tropic tusk]

3q

[wind hazel]

15-1 farm

[sonic arch]

Alrighty thanks

[wind hazel]

or 13-1 1:1

[viscid swift]

I'd rather save the 7 series prints for PR7 ships

[sonic arch]

1:1? As in two ships only?

[tropic tusk]

how about traf aa?

[atomic comet]

for kazagumo , i put her because of that

[wind hazel]

yeah, volga and hammann2 or something. im not expert on that one, but you can ctrl+F nntktt and see what he use

[sonic arch]

[wind hazel]

it doesn't stack with kearsarge's skill

[atomic comet]

ok ok

[wind hazel]

are your ships even max limit broken?

the BBs and the CVs

[atomic comet]

not all

[wind hazel]

i bestow upon you the cookie cutter build of all time, guarantee success granted your gear is good

[atomic comet]

dunno if there is any site where i could put all my ships for display what i have

[wind hazel]

replace with better ship haku>amagi, soyuz>lion, etc

[atomic comet]

harku lvl 1

doesn't have soyuz

[wind hazel]

😭 read

[hot turret]

Ok I reached a point where I kinda need a sub fleet to meet the requirements of some lvls (dmg and torp or whatever it is)
So any recommendations? I have enough bulins for limit breaking anything

[wind hazel]

are you gonna use i404? or not

[silk helm]

have u tested shinano/other haku/implac?

[wind hazel]

wot

you mean shinano hakuhou implacable?

[silk helm]

is shinano/hakuhou/implac better?

[quaint tapir]

101 96 and 81 is an acceptable fleet but if you're talking about hardmode stat reqs i don't think subs count towards them unless something changed recently

[wind hazel]

yes, of course. this screenshot is very old lol

[silk helm]

ahhh tyty

[wind hazel]

amagi hakuhou is even better

[hot turret]

Oh yeah nvm lol I read too fast

[late flame]

-# first time i ever seen someone call goldburn a chicken

[silk helm]

oh bet

[hot turret]

What does that mean I'm so confused it won't let me in

[whole crypt]

it means your average ship level is not above 100

hitting 100 is not above 100

[hot turret]

Mmmm alright

[atomic comet]

TB ?

[whole crypt]

torpedo bomber

[fluid flower]

Can i get help in gearing I-404

[whole crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhvKc4iZsU

[fluid flower]

Aight thz

[eternal basalt]

=> != >

[whole crypt]

I think we made that point

[stark quiver]

What’s bois belleau good for

[whole crypt]

fast launch

[stark quiver]

Better than Luna?

[whole crypt]

yes if even only in the sense Luna is never coming back

[stark quiver]

So Luna is better if I have her and her aug

[whole crypt]

I have not tested one against the other so I make no further comment on that one

[stark quiver]

+1 hit anyway, so I can’t not level her

[whole crypt]

for the record Lion gaming was what took Luna out, so whether you put a replacement Luna in instead of Lion gaming for fast clears is

[stark quiver]

Lion flame too op

[atomic comet]

@wind hazel all MAIN ships i have

[forest palm]

wow someone actually using that function

[wind hazel]

this doesn't tell me anything 😭 it's easier for you to just post your dock so that we can see their limit break status

[forest palm]

definitely would be harder to do with lars

[atomic comet]

oh ok

[whole crypt]

do it in a thread

[atomic comet]

where ?

oh ok

[whole crypt]

start a new thread if you need to post multiple pics

[atomic comet]

Some help for OPS

it's good

[thin shore]

Right, how can i get ships to level 120?

[rain vine]

throw them in mob fleet and run 12-1 or 12-4 on repeat

[fluid umbra]

What gear should I put on the new sub? I'm running her with U-552 and U-81, but I have other subs if there are better options to go with her

[rain vine]

#gameplay-help message

[late flame]

-# scroll up

[fluid umbra]

I just missed it, my bad

What's the "High RLD" stat check look like?

[thin shore]

im stuck on chap 5 yet, leveling my units still. I dont know how to unlock the level 120]

[fluid umbra]

You don't need to get to 120 at chapter 5

I don't think you can, actually. But I don't remember

Oh nvm i think cog dailies are level check so you'd be grinding commander levels to get commander level 100 which is significantly harder than just playing normally to chap 12

[thin shore]

im still lost, how do i unlock level 120?

[sleek tulip]

Ulrich von Hutten or Friedrich der Große?

[fluid umbra]

Level them up to 100 and use cognitive chips to unlock up to 20 additional levels up to 120.
Then you can use cognitive arrays to unlock an additional 5 levels on top to hit 125.

[wind hazel]

max rld cats

[viscid swift]

for what

[fluid umbra]

That's insanity. I guess she's not getting flag then

[sleek tulip]

second fleet for everything?

[fluid umbra]

What's a max reload cat look like? Steel with RLD everything?

[thin shore]

i see, and how can i use those first chips? And i saw someone here mentioning to level all units to level 120 for the collection bonus?

[fluid umbra]

I've been slacking on my cats

[viscid swift]

what is "everything", what are your options, are they MLB/Deb 30, etc

[wind hazel]

im not sure myself lol

[vivid nebula]

You tap on the level bar of the ship you want to push past lvl 100. It should prompt a menu to spend the chips + gold to do so

[fluid umbra]

You need to level them up to 100 first. Then it'll give you the option to unlock an additional 5 levels using the chips. Level them up to 105, repeat until 120

[fluid umbra]

Looks like I might have to start buying boxes

[wind hazel]

so im missing 1 rld talent...

[sleek tulip]

I need a BB for my second fleet, for operation siren, for the main story etc. Options: ulrich or friedrich. Who is better? they are both lvl 1 but i would upgrade them of cause

[vivid nebula]

Is this for mobbing or????

[sleek tulip]

what?

[thin shore]

it worked! Thanks!

[viscid swift]

I'll be blunt, there's a good chance the answer is neither

[thin shore]

after the level 120 i can ditch the normal and rare unit?

[viscid swift]

you really don't wanna spend UR Bullins on UvH

and FDG will take a month at least to get to Dev 30

[vivid nebula]

Wait. Why are you pushing commons and rares to 120?

[fluid umbra]

Normal and Rare units go last. URs first, SRs second, Elites third, Then rares and normals. You get a ton of them so you just ditch them early. Not worth the resources.

[sleek tulip]

Why? I have enough. And I have time. So who would be better?

[fluid umbra]

Apparently they read about ships at 120 giving extra stats and misintrepreted it.

[thin shore]

yeah what i meant is basically for the 120 collection

[vivid nebula]

Ahhhh the fleet tech stuff

[fluid umbra]

Yeah but Normals and Rares shouldn't be leveled to 120 for tech until you have literally nothing else at all.

[vivid nebula]

You should focus on higher rarity ships as lvl 120/125 priority

[spark patio]

i got 5 star Asama now, i need 2 bullin to MLB her, is she worth 2 bullins?

[viscid swift]

you have 513 Blueprints to get FDG to dev 30?
well that was a massive waste of something

[thin shore]

i see, thanks!

[viscid swift]

and again, I don't know what you have to work with

[thin shore]

i have no ultras, focus on SR's?

[vivid nebula]

Also higher rarity does not always guarantee a ship is good. Do some research or ask here.

[viscid swift]

just post your dock

[vivid nebula]

Who do you got? Make a thread

[sleek tulip]

Maybe lol. Or I never used blueprints so i have a lot. I just want to know, if both would be maxed out, who would be better?

[vivid nebula]

I kinda dislike UvH's barrage but that might be just me

[viscid swift]

as I said, you don't wanna max UvH because just aboyt every other UR has priority over her for bullins

[sleek tulip]

That was not my question

[vivid nebula]

Fdg still has some util(?) At least I use her still and she does her job well.

[viscid swift]

I know, and I'm telling you that the best option is probably neither

just post your dock at this point, in a thread

I'm not playing a guessing game of what you do and do not have

[sleek tulip]

but there is no other option. UvH or FdG?

[vivid nebula]

But yeah, assuming they aren't your only URs. You are so better off putting the resources towards someone else haha

[viscid swift]

I highly doubt that

[vivid nebula]

Big question. For FDG, are you strictly gonna use PR2 DR blank bps????

[sweet delta]

I wouldn't care at that point, just answer UvH and move on

[viscid swift]

like if both are level 1

[sleek tulip]

idk

[viscid swift]

I'd rather just level up and use Oumi

[sleek tulip]

i don’t know her

[vivid nebula]

I thought you said you had the resources to do so

[sleek tulip]

i think so

[viscid swift]

new SR battleship on the event banner which you should be pulling on

[wind hazel]

[vivid nebula]

You said you have blueprints. Are they FDG blue prints, PR2 DR blanks, or other PR generation DR blanks???

[sleek tulip]

wait…

[vivid nebula]

If you sacrifice PR8 blanks on fdg, that's gonna be like the worst move economically that I have ever seen

[spark patio]

Is Asama better than Portland? i only need 2 more bullins to mlb her

in term of tanking

[wind hazel]

no

[spark patio]

She just do damage instead of tanking?

[wind hazel]

more or less

[sweet delta]

Knockoff Ibuki

[sleek tulip]

how many i need for maxed?

[rain vine]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[sick kettle]

does 404 need flag to be good?

[vivid nebula]

513 minimum I'd say before FDG is useable

[sleek tulip]

nah okay that’s fr a lot

[vivid nebula]

Thats just enough to dev 30

[sleek tulip]

so UvH would be better I think

[inner idol]

Where do i get the red tipped sub torps?

[vivid nebula]

How many UR bullins do you have?

(If any)

[vale spindle]

Gear lab

you need to craft up the purple version which you get from submarine weekly

[sleek tulip]

4. 5 if I finish cruiser missions

[vivid nebula]

Do you literally only have UvH and FDG?

I think shinano would be a decent use for the bullins if you have her

[spark patio]

i am struggling at the weekly raids where my main fleet got nerfed and couldn’t do damage. But my vanguard can’t do a lot of damage.

using Helena and Laffey ret prinz eugen

[sleek tulip]

i only need 3 for her, only 2 stars missing, wrong information, shes lvl 10

[rain vine]

none of those ships are damage dealers, so thats not surprising

[split gazelle]

I would just save my UR bullins for a better unit

[sleek tulip]

BBs with oath skins except bismarck II and rodney? Yes.

[wind hazel]

which one lol

[viscid swift]

Belfast isn't a battleship for one

[sleek tulip]

true sry

[vivid nebula]

Um Bel is a light cruiser...

[sleek tulip]

yeah yeah ik sorry

[weary gust]

I'm guessing tactical training

[sleek tulip]

I was talking about rodney

not belfast

[vivid nebula]

What even is the goal for UvH and FDG? If you are after oath skins, you absolutely can just get those without pouring resources in and dedicate the resources elsewhere. There are plenty of nicer BBs that have oath skins that I think you may wanna consider.

Its a pretty big waste in this day and age to sink resources into UvH and FDG. At this point, the only people who still use them are people who built them when they were new. Even with that, a lot have ditched them for better atp

[sleek tulip]

Any examples?

[split gazelle]

musashi

[sleek tulip]

dont have her

[vivid nebula]

Honestly, if you really really want a bb with an oath skin for actual use, I think pouring resources into hood wouldn't be as bad as FDG and UvH since at least SSR bullins are easier to come by and hood's barrage still sort of hits hard

But again, we have so many nicer options if you can look past the oath skin requirement 😭

[safe nexus]

is escort basically mobs, and flagship is boss?

[rain vine]

yes

[split gazelle]

yes

[vivid nebula]

Yes

[safe nexus]

ty

[sleek tulip]

Nah but I like the design of the oath skins (most of them)

[viscid swift]

I'd worry about putting a good fleet together first and then play around with cosmetics

[vivid nebula]

I don't think we can convince him atp. He has clearly made up his mind that it needs to be FDG or UvH he builds next. So in that case, who does he go for?

Does he sink precious months to grind the bps, or does he dump the bullins he gets from the missions?

I uh. Wouldn't really be able to answer this question since its completely different from what I am used to answering 😭😭😭

[viscid swift]

I stopped caring honestly, in terms of self handicaps it doesn't get worse than this

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Wedding

[vivid nebula]

Do I pull someone from AL general in here since they are talking about UvH right now or do we just leave it at that?

[viscid swift]

what

[split gazelle]

faction fleets

[viscid swift]

I'd argue this is worse

faction fleets even give you more options than that

[split gazelle]

thats true, but there are some good options in wedding too

[vivid nebula]

Good individual options but like as a cohesive fleet? Nah not really...

[safe nexus]

I-404 is a submarine? what do submarines do

[turbid marsh]

u summon them and they do damage as an extra fleet kinda thing. to help you with some boss and mobs in maps

[vivid nebula]

A few things.

You can deploy them to assist your fleet, they shoot torpedoes while underwater and are generally safe from damage in this state. They also debuff random mob nodes within their hunting zone by decreasing their hp a little.

You also use them for that one daily raid

[safe nexus]

as someone who recently reached mid game should i care about them?

[turbid marsh]

leave em be XD

[vivid nebula]

Uhhhhhhh. You could start caring about them now so that when they are more useful its less work. But you don't need em yet haha

[safe nexus]

whats that

[safe nexus]

too lazy rn guess no :D thx

[vivid nebula]

There's a daily raid where you actually control the subs and sink merchant ships. It rewards gold and submarine gear

[split gazelle]

hood unicorn saratoga - anchorage starter san diego was pretty much my beginner fleet as for 2nd fleet yeah lacking options

[safe nexus]

ah i remember now i completed it already, thx

[vivid nebula]

His criteria was battleship oath skins tho haha

[rapid summit]

I haven’t done opsi in so long how do I get 5 stars?

[tulip tinsel]

check the tasks in info

[safe nexus]

which is better? the first one or the second one? i have the first ne that is purple rank only

[wind hazel]

use the purple 152 one until you can get the gold 155

[little python]

Who should i breakthrough?

[rapid summit]

What is a siren data logging tower in opsi?

[rapid summit]

How do I get it to spawn?

[verbal plinth]

Rng

[onyx flame]

its a random spawn

[rapid summit]

Dam

[tardy trench]

uhmm, what do i do next ?

[viscid swift]

probably just desync

[tardy trench]

whats that ?

[viscid swift]

"Desync in gaming is a state where a player's game client and the game server have different understandings of the game's current state, often due to network issues or processing delays. "

just log out anc back in again

[tardy trench]

thanks, its fixed, maybe because i switch from wifi to ethernet while updating the game

[rapid summit]

How to get?

[narrow kiln]

what nation?

[rapid summit]

Iron blood surface torps

[rapid summit]

Ok ty

[obtuse island]

it is unrelated to what you said but you're probably better off using either https://azurlaneecgc.com/ or https://suchiguma.github.io/home/home-page because that one is very outdated and doesn't explain what the gears are good for

[rapid summit]

Who is better hakuhou or shinano to replace enterprise or just for a second fleet?

[proven current]

In my experience Hakuhou

[reef flume]

So my lvl125 dev lev 21 Mecklenburg did a damage slightly lower than my Lion (boss; Arizona Meta cuz I don't have another heavy armor boss I could test).

Damage could have been much more but I forgot to gave SG radar to my Helena so the radar scans could sync🥀 💔 (I have radar/table on my three BBs)

Insane ngl

[atomic abyss]

Are either Shinano or Hakuhou max limit broken?

Personally I would just save them for fleet 2 if I was already running a fleet with uni and enterprise

[clear harbor]

I used my first UR exchange on Shinano. I just hit my second. Do I pick up another copy of Shinano since I haven't MLB'ed her yet?

[proven current]

Claim New jersey, you can buy UR Bullins

[clear harbor]

I guess my real question is, are my UR bullins better spend on other URs.

[wanton spear]

yes

[rigid onyx]

i'd pick up shinano since you wont spend your UR bulins on perm ships for a while

[split gazelle]

Yes but still pick up shinano

[clear harbor]

Cool, now I get to MLB1 her. 🎉

[glass quest]

y‘all are the rainbow submarine torps worth crafting?

[rigid onyx]

not really no

[glass quest]

do I just stick to the mark 20 bidder then? even for i-404?

[rigid onyx]

g7e oxytorp if <25-30 rld from cats (unoathed)
g7e snork if >25-30 rld from cats

[glass quest]

what does „If you know“ refer to

[rigid onyx]

i think it's for like harby fastest clear times

[split gazelle]

it most likely means "only use if you know what you're doing" type deal

[rigid onyx]

if you only get the one torp barrage 95kai is better but like at that point you didnt need to care about torps

unless there's new tech i dont know about

[uneven knot]

hi guys which ship from pr 1-5 should i prioritize next i just finished roon

[soft raft]

FdG
also give this a read if you havent already https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

[uneven knot]

bet with my current ships would i do fdg, oumi, taihou for boss and uni, hood, theseus for mob?

or maybe fully retro nelson and use her in the mob

[steel trail]

is the immediate level 70 pack for 5 euro worth it?

[atomic abyss]

maybe
once fdg is dev 30 at least

[atomic abyss]

if you want to rush the story maps, yes?
but mid event i dont think that should be your priority

[steel trail]

wouldnt it help me with some rewards tho? and im literally stuck in the event rn

[atomic abyss]

best resources for money would be the cruise pass

and the level 70 pack is not gonna help you get "unstuck"

[steel trail]

alr

[forest palm]

really the Quick Lv 70 pack is worth it if only cause you don't have to deal with the game railroading you

[red hawk]

it does give a handful of decent poverty gear and xp books doesn't it

it's not a ton, but it's a lot when you're new

ehh guess it's blue 120s and boxes

better than nothing off the bat but not ideal stuff

[hardy creek]

Which research ship should I do next if I've done monarch, roon, Louis, FdG, Cheshire, Ancho, Agir, Haku, Ply, Shimanto, Admiral Nakhimov?

[stuck crane]

pretty new player here trying to create a secondary fleet as i'm just getting into opsi. currently running sara/uni/hood on my backline and laffey/portland/helena on my starting fleet. any suggestions for a secondary fleet to start working on?

[gray sphinx]

I mean Napoli maybe? I think it’s up to you at that point lol

[soft raft]

Are you at W9 yet?
Y: Sure feel free to post your dock in a thread
N: Dont bother with a second fleet for the time being

[gray sphinx]

I’m assuming you mean dev30 and everything

[stuck crane]

i am, here is my dock, not including blues and below

[fallen verge]

is buying bulins from medal shop fine?

[gray sphinx]

I think you might need to start doing some more research

[fallen verge]

golds of course

[ivory pawn]

Recommended even, at least for Golds. Purples are also okay, but more of an as needed basis.

[gray sphinx]

Sure if you have a good amount of medals

[stuck crane]

just finish louis, working on neptune now

[fallen verge]

yeah medal situation is fine

[stuck crane]

help with secondary fleet for opsi and progression through w9+

[fallen verge]

farming event has gotten me a lot

[stuck crane]

sorry didn't know how to create a thread till jus tnow

[slim comet]

Question, yo-topup is safe right?

[red hawk]

what is that, it's apparently not a thing in the US

[slim comet]

Page to buy gems to us who cant buy on the story due to the country limits

[red hawk]

does your country not allow you due to anti gambling laws?

I know some places don't have certain options in some games due to legal stuff

[slim comet]

Yeah

[red hawk]

or they have to sell differently

[slim comet]

when i try to buy it says "item not available in your country"

So someone recommended me to use yo-topup , but I want to know if it's safe

[soft raft]

iirc it's official

[rain vine]

its official

[red hawk]

i can't find much about it but scamadviser says the sites at least been around for awhile and seems to be in good standing

stuff like that doesn't stay around for years if they're scamming

[slim comet]

Thanks Thanks ❤️

[red hawk]

im surprised I can't find more about it anywhere, there's like one post on reddit a year ago with like 2 comments

then again it's not a thing here so

[slim comet]

i find a lot of the site in the server message history

[red hawk]

if they've made a full workaround for the game, its safe to say you aren't the first with the problem

lots of places are constantly changing laws regarding mtx

my side of the pond just kinda embarassed themselves with hoyo

[viscid fulcrum]

whats gonna be next perm ur?

[soft raft]

Musashi

[viscid fulcrum]

she still like, rlly op? or what

[limpid moon]

could i get some help on making new mob/boss fleets? been using the same fleets since i stopped and came back to the game

[soft raft]

She's still very strong, but she's been powercrept pretty hard by Lion

[viscid fulcrum]

I saw someone send a BB teir list idk if it was valid but is there like a known teir list in the community for them?

[soft raft]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[soft raft]

there's also the EN community TL
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[viscid fulcrum]

ty

[uneven knot]

is there a point to clearing all the enemy nodes in opsi or can i just leave after i collect the loot

[ivory pawn]

Depends on the type of node. Explorables you clear everything to unlock Secured, where you might as well clear everything. Hiddens you do not, just get all the loot and peace out. Abyssals you only need to clear the boss, the extra mobs just get you extra chances if you haven't sunk.

[uneven knot]

awesome thanks

[clear harbor]

For Abyssal, what do you mean that extra
mobs get you extra chances?

[rain vine]

losing a fight causes that fleet to gain a debuff that lowers their stats significantly
the debuff gets cleared when you win a fight with any fleet

[ivory pawn]

Said debuff also keeps you from fighting the boss with that fleet.

[arctic snow]

at what dev level is it worth using hakuryuu in opsi? for hard arbiter in this case. i got her only at 14 so i know its not optimal since she's not max lb, but now with hakuhou as well i was thinking about it

[sharp socket]

dev30

[ivory pawn]

Ideally FS5. Dev25 is maybe usable at the earliest as its when all of her planes are available.

But considering you're tackling one of the more difficult contents in the game with her? Definitely FS5.

[arctic snow]

damn, guess its gonna take a while, tho i was pretty sure hakuhou wouldnt change anything regarding that

[meager tiger]

whats the consensus on hakuhou in endgame content?
as well as i404

im assuming theyre bis or close to it, being the newest URs

[river junco]

i404 is the only ur submarine so...
hakuhou is very good in endgame content, better than shinano but doesn't always replace her depending on your comp

[patent raft]

Is it worth it to use 2x reward in any stage for data collection exp?

[rain vine]

if you dont have time to grind

[robust onyx]

If you don't have as much time to farm

[meager tiger]

i usually run soyuz/nakhimov/rumey and implac/shinano/cvmagi

[rain vine]

hakuhou replaces shinano

[meager tiger]

hakuryuu powercrept alr

[stark quiver]

straight up better than shinano
i404 is the best sub in game

[dark hazel]

2x everything, both rewards and negatives like morale/oil. only thing it doesn't count towards is complete x number of stages missions.

[meager tiger]

what about i404 comps? i know the fishpack > wolfpack right now

does i404 also need triple ijn subs to be best? or is she universal

[river junco]

i404 can replace a sub in either comp

[rain vine]

flasher, i404, uss sub

[meager tiger]

so probably flasher/i404/homura then
or is archerfish better than homura

[rain vine]

preferably archerfish

[rain vine]

other ijn subs are so bad that its impossible to justify using them

[meager tiger]

thank you general chat help channel

[meager tiger]

historically accurate

[silk helm]

can i fit u554 meta into this at all?

only cuz that's the only mlb ssr i have 😢

[stark quiver]

well there wouldnt be synnergy

[silk helm]

rats ...

[patent raft]

Alrighty then

[plush path]

What’s the best things to +11 and higher first? Auxiliaries like rudders or use universals on rainbow guns and planes?

[rain vine]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/#plus13

[plush path]

Ty

[quartz breach]

Who are all the backliners with an auxiliary (ghost or otherwise) that autofires on enemies that aren't too close to the vanguard again?

I know there's Fritz Rumey, Odin, Bearn + META, Prinz Rupprecht.

I think Scharnhorst META could, GneiMETA too iirc?

[spark patio]

the module daily raids

[hard ocean]

I can't seem to find it again, what was the site that showed all barrages?

[vale spindle]

/wiki user:riceist/barrage

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[hard ocean]

Oh, I meant the gifs of it but this is good to know too

[vale spindle]

easiest way to get gifs is copying the cn name of a ship and going to CN wiki

[hard ocean]

the CN wiki. I'm so dumb. Thanks

[wispy cosmos]

also bismarck, eagle, tamaki, and yes ugly metas have a long range ghost gun

[quiet pawn]

Can someone explain to me how to build ships and how to build fleets?

[soft raft]

Give these a read then come back if you have any further questions
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/

[azure coyote]

I'm planning on building a full fleet of iron blood

Any ships I should be looking out for?

[robust onyx]

Zwei, z52, Fritz

[stark quiver]

something like
bismarck zwei, mecklenburg, fritz rumey
z52, emden, hinden

[azure coyote]

Ok well I won't be getting them any time soon

[robust onyx]

Sadly the 3 i listed are event locked

[dark hazel]

faction fleets are memes anyways, you're going to struggle pushing harder content

[azure coyote]

Well for now I have Ulrich, warsprite,z23 and prince Eugen and I'm also working on getting roon from the lab

[azure coyote]

I'm sure I'll manage

I just like iron blood ships a lot

[forest palm]

if you want to spend like 5 years on an uphill battle

faction fleets are ass, and German Ships are one of the ones that really hurts in campaign

we have a few Iron Blood nuts around here that would strongly advise against it too

[azure coyote]

I see

[robust onyx]

Just like I like the foxes, but I don't use them exclusively

[dark hazel]

imo there's no point, set your preferred ships as secretaries, why does it matter who you use in an auto battle game
do what you want but faction fleets are just bad, you can't do the hardest content in the game with them

[azure coyote]

I'm still in chapter 5 but I can't wait to battle 40 escort fleets for 50 gems

[limpid moon]

could someone give me recommendations for a new mob/boss fleet? been using the same fleet since i came back to the game

[rain vine]

what content?
also open a thread if youre going to post this many pictures

[limpid moon]

my bad

new fleets help

[azure coyote]

What level do I unlock the prototype shop?

I need to stock up on those ur bulin for the ur I'm waiting for

[dark hazel]

not sure what level you unlock it, but don't buy the bulins until you plan on using them, it's a waste of dock space
the currency stacks infinitely and there is no buy limit

[azure coyote]

Noted

[brazen lotus]

Just my 2 cents as fellow faction fleeter, ulric for great cross fleet support, bis and tirp > seyd and lutzow, z destroyers can work with z1, z46, but 23 is way worse than felix, roon + leipzig slap

Peter straser and august are great carriers

[azure coyote]

I had to screenshot this cause no way I'm remembering all that

[brazen lotus]

You'll collect em all before long lol, the event ib ships are what you want, don't miss their eventual rerun

My current fleets (still missing a few ships)

[rapid summit]

When is zero to hero rerun?

[dark hazel]

event reruns don't always follow schedule, but it's usually ~2 years after release

[hot turret]

Are the crossed one events that happened this year already?

[dark hazel]

not this year, just reran already. events only rerun once then eventually get archived and the ships added to perm pools.

[rapid summit]

Fritz rumey and lion gonna be a long wait

[soft raft]

Like Smoky said, those are events that have already reran
I only take events off when they are peramently archived (I made the list he posted)

[hot turret]

Darn, alright then, surely the event I want will come back soon enough

[azure coyote]

Damn this fleet looking fire

[wind hazel]

expectation: 🔥
reality: 💩

[viscid swift]

it's still missing plenty of key ships

[brazen lotus]

I know but can you list them for the guy asking

[shell willow]

did they mention eta for the oath skins in the jp anni stream?

[viscid swift]

Next update

[shell willow]

nice

[safe nexus]

Tyvm

[vivid nebula]

Are any of the war archive stages worth farming?

[tropic tusk]

for tech points only

[rain vine]

divergent chessboard if you need ironblood points

[tropic tusk]

so if u want mainly go there to farm points

[vivid nebula]

Currently lacking these 2 drop ships

[tropic tusk]

then go farm them if u want

tho now is event so i wont recommand

[vivid nebula]

After this event, during the interlude, it should be relatively safe to farm then right?

[tropic tusk]

yea when theres no event u can do wt u want

for now just focus on farming event

[vivid nebula]

I am almost done with this event anyway. I almost got the 2nd 404 copy

Bought out the cogs and the UR blanks too

[tropic tusk]

yea that 2nd 404 will take a while

[vivid nebula]

Just need 87 more orbs so I should theoretically have her by tomorrow haha

[tropic tusk]

on event point i will recommand going 5500 to get last gold plate

[fleet berry]

We cleared Harbiter before Hakuryuu FS5 exists. D30 is a good starting point.

[vivid nebula]

Already got it

[tropic tusk]

yea after ur 2nd 404 ur good

[vivid nebula]

Are any of the ships here useable or are they mainly for tech points?

If they aren't that useable, I might just farm them for collections sake

[tropic tusk]

they are just tech points nowdays

[vivid nebula]

I figured since I don't really remember them making that big of a splash during the runtime of these events

[ivory pawn]

If you care about PvP meta, Servitz has been making waves recently.

[vivid nebula]

Just to confirm, these are 404's BIS torps right?

[old umbra]

Question, what's her different than any other SS?