gameplay-help

[eternal basalt]

She is not released yet, friday

[red hawk]

mori was saying the usual combo with shin is Haku/Amagi

[stark quiver]

thats only a viable combo if the boss is stationairy

[red hawk]

wait is that supposed to be amagi CV or BC

[stark quiver]

cv

[viscid swift]

Don't because end screen damage numbers cam be incredibly misleading

[hot tiger]

I limit broke all 3 ships but one still dies mid battle

[strange sphinx]

Level diff, skill level diff, and probably equipment diff

[hot tiger]

Would I need to enhance them some more?

[oak cove]

you kidding?!? ALL MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN DUMBASS QUESTIONS

[strange sphinx]

well what's your average Ship level?

[hot tiger]

90-100

[inland shoal]

The equips? Wouldn't overinvest, some are good enough to go to +6 or 7, few are good enough to +10 early on. Beyond that only invest when you know you have top tier gear

[hot tiger]

The ships themselves

[eternal basalt]

We don't see gear like that

But yes, do max out their enhancements

(and like, retrofit unicorn)

[inland shoal]

There's nothing you should do with commons other than use for enhancement anyway

[red hawk]

Would I need Uni to farm d4 with this? I'd like to run a few without a maxed ship

Divergent CB sorry

[forest palm]

shouldn't be an isse

[red hawk]

I feel like they should be good enough with gear

what does eldridge gearing look like? standard DD?

[stark quiver]

is that eld retro

[red hawk]

almost

[stark quiver]

make st louis tank or mayb sandy tank

[red hawk]

it's eld and 3/4

[sweet delta]

Considering that the Eldridge retro rerun hasn't reached the 7th day

[red hawk]

uhhhh

it started on the 28th friend

[frank phoenix]

will the new sakura UR be worth pullingif i have 0 sakura ships atm? XD

[hollow gust]

All new limited URs are worth it

[frank phoenix]

when's the next coming after this? XD

i missed Alasce by like a week :c this one ain't that hot tbh

[sweet delta]

my bad then you're slacking

[eternal basalt]

12 Sept: 2 UR
?: Unzen rerun
Dec: 2(?) UR

[frank phoenix]

they coming on 11th,not on friday?

[stark quiver]

its on friday

take his balls away

[eternal basalt]

My bad

[frank phoenix]

enough time to save cubes until december ,we ball

[red hawk]

I think I got all my guns sorted properly?

[eternal basalt]

Tempesta and Date A Live inbetween, if you care for these

[stark quiver]

oh right.... the tempesta shit hole

[frank phoenix]

depends on who will be the collab char

[eternal basalt]

Kurumi, for the rest I need to watch DAL

[viscid swift]

Tohka, Kotori, and Origami most likely as fan favorites

[red hawk]

are any of the collab ships ever good enough for more than early campaign and opsi?

[viscid swift]

nothing better than the top SRs at the time

[red hawk]

shame, I liked the last set, and they always seem to be easier to obtain/gear

from what I've seen and heard

[hot tiger]

Best gear?

[sweet delta]

Yumia easy to gear

[hollow sail]

if they are newer they'll be better than the old stuff, and more likely to be serviceable in later campaign. of course it's all a balance, the more ships you bring that aren't meta the more you have to compensate with gear or even more outstanding ships on the remaining slots

[red hawk]

I just mean they had all the gear as part of the event collection anyway

[sweet delta]

Helldiver > Suisei to begin with
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#bb-main-gun

[red hawk]

I had just started and I was able to clear it all and get everything

with one fleet

[eternal basalt]

Plus no tech means forever 100

[obtuse island]

would it be worth it to MLB shinano along with hakuho to use both

[eternal basalt]

Wait for datamine

[red hawk]

yeah that's true, I definitely don't have three atelier collab ships at 125 rn 😓

[obtuse island]

alr

[hollow sail]

for all we know (which is nothing) hakuhou boots shinano and keeps amagi, so do nothing

[red hawk]

which amagi is she usually paired with

[hollow sail]

then again you probably don't even have amagi

[eternal basalt]

cv amagi, the only one they care for

[red hawk]

she's obtainable from medals right? next time CV comes around?

[obtuse island]

that's amagi bb

[rapid shard]

For W13 Mob fleet would Triple 406mk6 or champ gun be better on Georgia? running 1bb 2cv

[red hawk]

ahh ok CV is the event one

[eternal basalt]

Rerun next year

[red hawk]

mb I was looking them up earlier and got them swapped

[hollow sail]

use champagne gun if you don't have georgia gun, the more threatening enemies are medium armor carriers

[eternal basalt]

CV amagi is the one getting the oath skin, BB amagi gets NOTHING

[red hawk]

ship no new players can get is getting oath skin cool

[obtuse island]

does shinano count herself for her self buff

[viscid swift]

yes

[red hawk]

I know it's a long haul game, but it does kinda suck that so many of the big meta ships are on such long rerun cycles

[rapid shard]

Which one is georgia gun? havent heard about that one

[viscid swift]

that's every ship in the game, besides they usually get powercrept before they rerun

[hollow sail]

rainbow twin 457mm

[forest palm]

[rapid shard]

Timeframe wise how long till laff2 and alsace rerun? Feb-April?

[soft raft]

who knows
I remember someone pointed out a pattern a few days ago but I've mostly forgotten what it was

[forest palm]

mid January probably

[ivory pawn]

Alsace more like April/May whenever that UR rerun is.

[forest palm]

can't be May, it'd be June

[ivory pawn]

Then June it is.

Guam & Laff2 should be mid-Jan.

I totally didn't think Alsace and Laff2 were together for a moment.

[forest palm]

I forget if it's Cheeky or NTTK who documents this data down to the date

UR ReRuns this year were June, March, and January

2024 was Nov, July, April, and Jan
so if I looked a little further might see some more inconsistency but it's clear that they keep Feb, May, Sept, and Dec for New URs, and outside of those Months you can expect a rerun to land

[daring oracle]

quick question does Essex count herself for absolute evasion

[sweet delta]

Yes , but you're unlikely to activate it in standard good fleet building

[daring oracle]

plane hell

[rigid onyx]

is there a UR event this thurs

[rapid shard]

Yes

[strong tartan]

yes and event info is in #game-news per usual or #jp-8th-anniversary-livestream-discussion

[agile patrol]

i have like. 10 opsi daily missions
do these stack up or will they disappear after a bit (do i need to rush them or not?)

[viscid swift]

Friday not Thursday

[sweet delta]

They don't disappear until the end of the month, and they stack up to a limit. The problem is that if you hit the max, then new missions don't spawn.

And the max is like 10 to 15, maybe wiki says

[hollow sail]

you can only have so many missions active and the menu where you accept them can only have 12 at once iirc

considering you get 5 on weekdays and 6 on weekends per day it's good to stay on top of them

there's no time limit to do any particular mission so if you want to leave a specific one for later you can

but i guess monthly reset counts as a time limit

[agile patrol]

-# crap.
How do I auto these? Strategic Search -> Secured, yes?

[hollow sail]

you can't automatically do dailies to my knowledge. you will have to click the mission then autosearch each one specifically

[round hare]

is this kawakaze build still good?

[agile patrol]

ohhh.. you can't strategic them
Secured strategic search finds random zones instead

[hollow sail]

strategic secured used typically to repeat the same zone over and over, which is useful for AP burn at the end of the month on C3/C5 zones or farming AP on C1

[viscid swift]

I dunno if a build that doesn't use quad mags would have ever been considered good but it's servicable

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[round hare]

true, i never got around on getting them

[round hare]

im looking at the massive sheet called Equipment and Misc Guide rn, is it still updated?

[viscid swift]

yes but this is easier to read

not quite as comprehensive but it serves

[round hare]

gotcha, so i should aim for any of these 2? is the left one event locked

[viscid swift]

yes

[marsh tusk]

is le malin in the permanent pool?

[viscid swift]

probably not anymore but she is in the medal shop rotation

[marsh tusk]

alright ill have to keep an eye out then

thx

shes actually there now, must be my lucky day

[small linden]

is there a cat guide?

[haughty skiff]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[haughty skiff]

cats are very late-game minmax though so don't stress too much about it unless you're at that point

[small linden]

Thank you every much. I've been out of the cat loop for a long time...even thou ive played the game for nearly 7 years.

[small linden]

Oh believe me. Ive been at late game for like 6 years now xD Ive just been lazy about the cats.

[red hawk]

do meowfficer stats count towards hardmode reqs

[viscid swift]

no

[versed notch]

should i ever pull on the standard banners?

[red hawk]

so really, outside of just using the ones I have with the best stats that match my fleet, I should just be hoarding the SR catboxes for awhile? or keep training and just not investing more than the daily into it

I don't go out of my way to buy cat boxes at this point, but events and stuff, they come a fair bit

[versed notch]

also, who should i get rid of

[sweet delta]

Better early than never. Buy daily free and do comf forts daily, train all gold and purple boxes and keep the good ones

[forest palm]

at least once a day on light, otherwise no

[red hawk]

you can retire any duplicates of anyone you have fully limit broken, and rares you can pretty freely retire and just get more later when you want to level one

[sweet delta]

You have 70 free space, why do you want to get rid of ships

[versed notch]

clear the clutter

[red hawk]

the greys you usually use to enhance your ships

[versed notch]

isn't portland good tho?

i've mainly just been keeping ships that can retrofit

[red hawk]

you only need one copy of her fully limit broken

[forest palm]

like you'll want to search for good CV, BB, and SS based Cats, but also you want to at least have 2 SSR Lv 30 cats for Ops mobbing cat nodes

[red hawk]

you don't want multiples of the same ship, outside of what you can use for limit breaking

and some with retrofit are good, some arent? it really depends

like some even with retrofit are just expensive and mid

the ships that people want that have retrofits, are because of certain stuff the ship or the retrofit does that augments a certain need, like san diego being valuable for AA or Eldrige Tanking

or uni preload heal

[rapid shard]

Portland with Retro will work fine as a tank till you hit W13ish. she starts falling off then but just fine till then

[red hawk]

yeah I wasn't trying to imply portland isn't useful but I just meant don't keep doubles of ships you've got mlb

[rapid shard]

I was just pointing that one out cause he mentioned it.

[red hawk]

yeah I think I see how I worded it wrong, I said blues are usually free to retire, but yeah you want to keep pennsylvania and portland and all copies of those till MLB

otherwise you can pretty well dump a lot of the map rares

[rapid shard]

How high is the difficulty spike from W13 to W14? Autoing W13 and bout to finish it without much issue at all and curious how big of a spike 14 is

[rapid shard]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[rapid shard]

Check out this guide to help with which ships to keep and work on early ]

[versed notch]

how are these fleets

[haughty skiff]

read the guide first

[rapid shard]

Read the guide and portland needs to be in leftmost slot

[soft raft]

to put it very bluntly, dogshit
Give this a read if you havent already https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[haughty skiff]

terrible; you don't need two fleets until much later, like W10 / W11

also, how many cubes do you have currently ? just before i even get into anything

[rapid shard]

Leftmost slot is the "Tank" slot they tank most of the dmg and laffey is a DD so not a good tank.

[haughty skiff]

they have bigger issues then vanguard placement

[hollow sail]

very substantial. 14-1 and 14-2 are ok, but 14-3 presents quite a sharp difficulty spike from even those two stages

[soft raft]

submarines go brrrrrr

[rapid shard]

Also wouldnt reccomend using any META ships early they take a lot of investment to get full potential out

[red hawk]

as far as meta ships go how bad is dunkerque

[rapid shard]

Apperciate it. I take it Subs will actually be relevant in 14?

[red hawk]

nvm im gonna look at tier

[hollow sail]

they are helpful, especially if you want to go for that third star on lethal

[haughty skiff]

Friday

[soft raft]

terrible

[rapid shard]

Not worrying about third on lethal ill handle that once it hits safe. I havent even began to start working on subs

Zero idea on which are worth investment in the first place

[red hawk]

I was using dunkerque because I had all the stuff from cruise pass and didn't really spend a lot investing in her, that's unfortunate, I'll swap her out

[soft raft]

general rule of thumb is that elite rarity METAs are all dogshit

[rapid shard]

Are any of the METAs actually good?

[haughty skiff]

the new sub is likely to change the sub fleets but it's usually either fishpack (archerfish / flasher / albacore) or kms, i can't remember who exactly but it's a specific 3 of 'em

[soft raft]

a few of the SR ones from showdown can be roughly summed up as "Good but better options exist"

I think the most viable META period is U-556 META if you arent able to get a wolfpack or Fishpack going

[viscid swift]

I doubt I-404 sudenly makes IJN subs relevant

[red hawk]

I mean outside of the fact that yeah I could be levelling a more useful ship in it's place it's not like it was anything more than filler in my c1 levelling fleet anyway

[viscid swift]

it'll probably just be fishpack with Albacore kicked out or something

[red hawk]

god I'm sorry i know this is help but that name makes me fucking laugh

I-404

[rapid shard]

This is my full sub options. been just letting them passivly gain XP and randomly throwing in dorm. Any of these worth actual investment?

[haughty skiff]

Probably would make it I-404 / Archerfish / Flasher with Flasher as flagship

[soft raft]

besides U-47 possibly, no not really

[red hawk]

honestly from what I've been told for most of the game all you really need is I-58 to clear the weekly content

[sweet delta]

Jintsuu is used in quite a lot of endgame content

[rapid shard]

Thats actually who im working on right now funny enough.

Is there a guide on the Jintsuu fight?

[viscid swift]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[viscid swift]

check the META chronicles

[versed notch]

9 rn

[haughty skiff]

I'm guessing you spent your cubes all on the permanent banner ?

[small linden]

Im reading about armor break on the wiki and it says it increases the battleship firepower...does it not work for CV damage? Making sure Im reading it correctly.

[haughty skiff]

Have you spent your gems ? I'm also gonna assume that you're f2p but feel free to correct me if you're not

[versed notch]

a few

mainly cuz i was bored

[versed notch]

yeah was recommended to use them on my dock

[viscid swift]

no, it's an 8% damage debuff to enemies for FP based damage

[versed notch]

and yes im f2p

[viscid swift]

being free to play has nothing to do with anything
no one sane in this game spends money for pulls

[haughty skiff]

i'm asking these questions incase they spent all their gems on cubes / coins, that's all

[viscid swift]

what does that really change though

[obtuse island]

has anyone received the rewards from the web event yet

[haughty skiff]

their account seems really cooked, they've done like every newbie mistake and if they also wasted gems then it'd be better to just start over

[viscid swift]

just read the newbie tips and follow the newbie tips

just sub Hood or Nelson in for Penn

[haughty skiff]

this ^

save your cubes, there is a brand new UR event on the 12th

[versed notch]

also they say to retrofit asap

but how do i get the materials to do that

[haughty skiff]

you should be focusing on retrofitting Unicorn, but just read the newbie guide to start

[viscid swift]

honestley, unless they've retired the hedghog and/or are really early in the game I wouldn't consider such mistakes to be bad enough to be worth starting over

especially with a collab ship in there

[soft raft]

the game also doesnt really frontload you with resources at the start

[quaint tapir]

cooked for the upcoming banner probably but long term it'll all average out
biszwei is still a pretty good baseline

[haughty skiff]

collab ship isn't worth missing most of the handbook cubes when a UR banner is popping up imo

[versed notch]

😭

[haughty skiff]

but i think they'll be fine since they havent wasted gems, which is the main thing in the long term that'd ruin them

[versed notch]

it's my first gacha (but i quit for a while and played a few more)

[soft raft]

^
And eventually you'll forget all about the new UR by the time it reruns

tho i feel like that's mostly a me thing and the fact that Shimakaze ended up being very low on the UR list

[viscid swift]

I don't think it's that cooked

[vapid valve]

Is roon u bettter then normal room am I missing anything or much at all

[viscid swift]

just looks like a typical newbie account from someone who hasn't read the newbie tips

[soft raft]

technically yes, but not enough to make shilling out 1.5k core data to be worth it in the long run

she also doesnt give fleet tech so lol

[viscid swift]

she's worse

[soft raft]

oh wait I keep forgetting about post-aug roon

[vapid valve]

DAMMMM

[soft raft]

nvm she'd be worse yeah

[versed notch]

i was really just driven by big titty ships

[sweet delta]

Roon mu has unnecessary costs, is weaker, and gives no tech

[versed notch]

but now i see i should take it more seriously

[quaint tapir]

you can just play for big titty boats but that's like
3/4ths of them so good luck

[vapid valve]

That’s the one of the reasons why we are all here

[haughty skiff]

it is but isn't really anything special either

[quaint tapir]

i've been playing since a week or two after JP launch and didn't touch w13+ until last year, had more or less 100% collection outside of the map drops from those stages
point is you don't really need to hyper-optimize unless it's gem economy

[viscid swift]

why would you expect anything special from a newbie account

[haughty skiff]

yall really misunderstood what i said

[sweet delta]

Ok

[vapid valve]

I’m thinking of getting more stuff like books and what not but not sure if it’s worth dropping the cash on it

[quaint tapir]

i think the only time a reset on an account with biszwei already in dock would be relevant would be hedgehog delete, all protocore wasted, and spending all gems on taihou skins instead of dock slots as f2p tbh

[viscid swift]

why you would spend any money on this game other than for gems is beyond me

like the only resource pack that's actually got decent value is the 5 dollar level 70 commander pack and that's only for new players

[quaint tapir]

only non-gem thing ever conditionally worth it is the level 70 boost, otherwise you're just kneecapping yourself

[red hawk]

I got the cruise pass for the hell of it

[viscid swift]

you get the cruise pass for the skin

[red hawk]

I don't even use monty

[haughty skiff]

i dont think it's a bad idea for a newbie to reset if they can get most of the handbook in time to pull on a limited UR banner

[viscid swift]

the resources are just a bonus and certainly not worth 7-8 bucks

[red hawk]

bro they gave me some dopamine on a really bad day, well worth the money and I've spent more on stuff that was more disappointing. But from an economic standpoint I won't argue, they're not high value

[soft raft]

and yeet one of the best UR BBs in the game in the process for a CV that we currently know jack shit about? No thanks

[red hawk]

the commander pack is the only thing I've ever actually recommended to people

[viscid swift]

how quickly can you even get the cubes from the hand book as a new player anyway

[quaint tapir]

i'm not 100% sure hakuhuo will be as good for a new player as biszwei is

especially given shinano's presence as a super easy freebie

[viscid swift]

by virtue of being a CV 90% chance she won't

BBs are just easier to equip than CVs and utilize

[quaint tapir]

CVs are significantly more costly to get good gear for and usually reliant on other CVs

[red hawk]

one of the biggest slowdowns for doing handbook has got to be opening tech packs if you're always doing t3s and the building if you're only doing dailies

[viscid swift]

not those, we mean the mechanic tutorial missions that give cubes

[red hawk]

oh, mb I was thinking the rookie missions

[haughty skiff]

I know, they won't be able to invest in Zwei for a while anyway- just seems better in the long term to grab the event UR even if Zwei is better in the short term

[viscid swift]

why not just get both

[haughty skiff]

they have 8 cubes

[viscid swift]

rerolling isn't gonna magically give them more

[rapid shard]

Ive seen a lot of people say they waitied forever to hit W13 and up. Im about 5 1/2 weeks into the game and cleared 13-4 fully now lmao

[quaint tapir]

so reroll for a chance at getting a new UR that will do jack all for multiple months?

i rerolled just before lion banner and only got around 160/200 towards pity with the cubes the game gave me

[red hawk]

isn't it kinda moot because unless you're paying on the reroll account for commander boost aren't you going to get gated too much in progress for the event to be worth anything?

[soft raft]

the commander pack would barely do shit in regards to cubes to reroll with

[haughty skiff]

Both Zwei and new UR will still take months either way

Also events don't have a commander level lock

[red hawk]

not even about cubes, just about being able to do content to level into doing event content

[soft raft]

I still dont get why you're so willing to yeet one of the best UR BBs in the game

[small linden]

Ah ok...So having Enty or another US CV using one plus with Kearsarge will have kearsarge do more damage...Just have to time it well...which I always have issues doing. lol

[red hawk]

I wouldn't reroll, maybe do an alt account for fun

[quaint tapir]

being 100% i'd rather have shinano + biszwei vs. hakuhuo + new jersery (or shinano) regardless of how good haku ends up being

[viscid swift]

would not bother trying to utilize the Tenrai's armor break

[small linden]

Copy that.

[red hawk]

am I wrong to think that even if I MLB'd shin today, she'd probably not really be much of an upgrade anywhere considering she needs the right comp? (not going to, just curious)

[quaint tapir]

oh yeah something i never actually had to ask before since i've had the georgia 457 on my main forever now, but is the 457 the best use of the first set of T6 ordnances?

i've been debating between the 457 and waiting for the LA-9

[rapid shard]

Well for a diff topic. Regarding Healers my Uni is fully retrod and 125 at XP cap. I wanna raise a second healer ship and main 2 i have is Persues and Klaudia. which would be the better to start running?

[haughty skiff]

ig we'll see, the convo is kinda redundent at this point now

[wind hazel]

perseus, at least she gives tech

[viscid swift]

the La-9 won't in the lab for 2 more years at the current rate

as for if it's the highest ehhh

1st 457 probably, 2nd 457 debatable, not that it has much competition

[rapid shard]

I know Uni is the best healer hands down but is perseus worth using? ive seen on diff list her being solid to Do not use at all

[haughty skiff]

La-9 is going to be in protocore next year if that effects your choice

[wind hazel]

unicorn is the better healer, so not much reason to use perseus

[red hawk]

so the tierlist says klaudia is good for w14 and 15? what use does she have

[versed notch]

guys

[wind hazel]

doesn't mean perseus is useless on her own, it's just that why use her when unicorn is there

[viscid swift]

she's another healer

[versed notch]

out of my ships what could i use for damage

[red hawk]

do you need multiple mob fleets at that point?

[quaint tapir]

next year is enough time for me to save ordnances up again for it, it's mostly whether or not the 457 itself is worthwhile still vs. an extra la-9 whenever that happens

[viscid swift]

also you know you can craft T2 into T3 ordinances at a rate of 8 to 1 right

[quaint tapir]

yes, i'm aware

[haughty skiff]

1st one would be worth it, 2nd is debatable

[quaint tapir]

i'm using the gold ordnances to build up pancakes and the 457 precursor wants 7 as well

so i have to be a little mindful of where i'm dumping them

[viscid swift]

you have 2 years, you'll be fine

[wind hazel]

just get the first 457 from protocore

[haughty skiff]

you just reminded me that i need to C1 farm and clear most of OPSI tonight

[quaint tapir]

i'm fresh outta protocore after the tenrai + AP guns

[wind hazel]

or use musashi, no 457 worries

[slow fox]

Musashi mentioned

[wind hazel]

get more

[quaint tapir]

problem: reroll was just before lion banner, no access to mushy

[versed notch]

guys

?

[wind hazel]

?

[viscid swift]

my dude, I gave you a fleet to use and a guide to read ages ago

[versed notch]

u did?

[quaint tapir]

i have most of everything on my JP account but google is threatening to lock out app sideloading from 2026 onward which would more or less fuck me over turbo in the long run

[sweet delta]

Who is the highest eHP main fleet ship against something that does like 70 damage * 6 hits with 1/1/1 armor mods, plus 750 damage from burn

[hollow gust]

get a iphone and a JP apple account , ez

[sweet delta]

eHP gear like rudder, 🧯 , and augments are allowed

[viscid swift]

@versed notch

[soft raft]

[wind hazel]

dogshit mentioned

[slow fox]

World's first burn calc

Off the top of my head Musashi or like Zuikaku lmao

when include burn, Musashi.

Are there other backline ships with more HP and/or DmgRed than Musashi?

[molten axle]

whats a good Mecklenburg build?

[viscid swift]

pretty standard BB Build
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[versed notch]

wdym sub in

[fallow bobcat]

What is the Royal fortune good for?
I can't deploy her

[viscid swift]

I mean use instead of

she goes in the sub fleet and she's good for cheesing the sub raid, that's about it

[fallow bobcat]

Ah thank you

[sweet delta]

Does musashi damage reduction work on burn?

[soft raft]

she's a submarine slot
and she's really only used to make the submarine weekly a clown show because not being submerge is not condusive to survival as a submarine

[fallow bobcat]

When did Yamato and musashi get released in America...

[viscid swift]

Yamato has not been released period in AL

[molten axle]

thanks

[soft raft]

Yamato has not released period
Musashi came out Sept 2022 and reran like last Nov for all three major regions at the same time

[viscid swift]

Musashi released on Global at basically the same time she did for CN and JP, September 2022

[versed notch]

so use penn over hood or nelson?

[viscid swift]

no the opposite

[fallow bobcat]

Joy I was not playing the game for a long time.

[rapid shard]

You have that backwards

[versed notch]

ohh mb

[sweet delta]

I think they got released from this world by America back in ww2

[versed notch]

but im not using penn

[slow fox]

Ask dataminer.

I think burn damage is different than other received damage.

[versed notch]

my vanguard ships are unicorn, hood, and nelson

[soft raft]

he means who you would replace out of the ships that the newbie guide reccomends

have you actually even given it a read? genuine question

those are backliners not vanguards

[fallow bobcat]

I am well aware

[versed notch]

ohhh mb

[versed notch]

i read through a few of the articles

adhd doesn't help

[slow fox]

Have you seen ships get burned in invul periods? Manjuu, IPH proc, Eldridge, etc?

[rapid shard]

Honestly read the whole thing it will anwser 99% of the questions you will ask in the next few days

[versed notch]

some of the stuff is for end game tho

[soft raft]

what

[slow fox]

-# Maybe musashi damage reduction DOES work on burn, then.
-#

[viscid swift]

the newbie tips don't mention anything for end game

[rapid shard]

These are not talking about endgame

[versed notch]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-hatsune-miku-hatsune-washing-machine-gif-4863029126409914383

[slow fox]

-# We need a midgame guide. I'll charge myself with putting Sam and Suchi through ChatGPT and take a language average of either guide.

[viscid swift]

also no unrelated gifs in this channel

[versed notch]

i have trouble paying attention

[sweet delta]

[wind hazel]

i can tell

[viscid swift]

ok? it's still against the channel rules

[slow fox]

Can test in PvP by having your fleet burn

[sweet delta]

Trouble paying attention to the rules

[versed notch]

nono i mean in general

i sent that to express my emotions

[mint flint]

its still against the channel rules

[viscid swift]

it's still unrelated to the channel

[versed notch]

I KNOW THAT NOW

jeez

[rapid shard]

Reading is hard lol

[hard ocean]

I can't remember, does them dying make their morale drop faster?

[viscid swift]

yes

[mint flint]

yes

[viscid swift]

-10 morale per death

[hard ocean]

Got it, thanks

[versed notch]

can i ask one last stupid question

[wind hazel]

no

[viscid swift]

you just did/s

[wind hazel]

ask smart question

[viscid swift]

but shoot

[versed notch]

should i swap out regensburg and prinz eugen

[wind hazel]

if not max limit break yes

[viscid swift]

just copy the fleet in the newbie tips with the appropriate modifications I already told you to make

[versed notch]

i shall become a sheep

😔

[slow fox]

What is the relationship between the theoretical std when working with a harmonically averaged ship eHP for shipgirls with multiple EVA shipstates vs shipgirls with multiple DmgRed shipstates

[wind hazel]

idk but it's more complicated than the relationship between me and my neighbour's wife for sure

[versed notch]

tbf i dont have enty

[rapid shard]

The guide has other options listed

[versed notch]

whaAaAaAaAat

[rapid shard]

Shes listed as a medal shop pick. If you dont have medals look at the other sections like drops and guild shop recs

I will bet money you have Ranger Leander Langley or someone like london

[crystal juniper]

do guild tech upgrades like dock space stay with your account or are they linked to your guild, if you change guilds will you loose those upgrades and have to repurchase them?

[wind hazel]

stays

[rain vine]

they stay with you

[spark patio]

is it worth using guild tokens to upgrade them?

[rain vine]

dock space, absolutely

[fiery scroll]

Hi Guys, im currently commander lvl 34, and i cleared Stage 5-4. and Stage 6-1 requires lvl 40.... is it recommended to just keep Sortie Stage 5-4? or should i focus other stuff, if so like what?

[rocky tinsel]

Is the primary cap on how much you make in the gear lab just how many ordinance testing reports you have? I have a million of everything except for those

Just grind out operation siren?

I mean, other than clearing everything and stacking a ton of ap items what's the trick?

[haughty skiff]

Yes you should keep playing 5-4, you can also play War Archive's Passionate Polaris; It's a SP stage.

SP5 has a Oil-Cap and after 60 clears gives you the Cosmic Kicks, a great EVA aux. It's generally the best stage you can farm for commander exp early on

[rocky tinsel]

Do level 5 zones over and over?

[rain vine]

corrosion 3 if you have time
corrosion 5 if you dont

[fiery scroll]

ah naise, thanks mate, but for War Archive, ppl say that its around lvvl 80?for the ship? and its hard to grind on oO. thats why i havent touch that yet

[haughty skiff]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19P3KPrgOrzCySoUrjDZgsfqJsCpJCyb9XmmSKozVzbw/edit?usp=sharing

this helped me out generally

[spark patio]

any guide for war archive?

[wind hazel]

yes, it's very unlikely you can do SP/UU SP5. just stick to 5-4

[fiery scroll]

aite thanks hehe

[ivory pawn]

Pretty much, yes. Ord reports are rather rare, pretty much only from Port Shop, Abyssals, and Cat nodes.

[haughty skiff]

It is unlikely you can do SP5 but you can begin progressing to it for future use if you'd like

[haughty skiff]

there isn't really a guide persay as it depends on what is needed

Divergent Chessboard D4 is for getting essential Iron Blood ships needed for Fleet Tech

Passionate Polaris & Universe in Unison's SP5 60x clear gear are great auxes for your vanguard

[rocky tinsel]

In operation siren, is there a limit or reduced chance or something for the number of times the mysterious merchant shows up per day?

[wind hazel]

no, it's all rng

[rocky tinsel]

The guides don't mention

[rain vine]

its just rng, unaffected by how many times youve already seen it

[wind hazel]

akashi appear more on hidden zones, around 5% at secured

[spark patio]

shouldn’t grind it for ships?

[haughty skiff]

None of the ships are anything noteworthy; Divergent is only grinded due to the hefty amount of IB ships which enable you to get FDG, Agir, ect..

[spark patio]

and those mode affect morale too?

[rain vine]

yes

[haughty skiff]

Yes, they do ; they also cost oil

D1+ in War Archive have oil caps

[wind hazel]

reminder to use HECLP if you're doing War Archives, x2 rewards for 1 key

[spark patio]

what is HECLP…

[fiery scroll]

yeah this game have a dem hard learning curve with all its Abbre.... as a newbie myself too....

[spark patio]

I just do everything but this mode lel

[wind hazel]

high efficiency combat logistic plan

the... the thing you can tick to get x2 reward

[rain vine]

high efficiency combat logistics plan

[spark patio]

ah this thing, I thought it was for campaign and event only, thanks

[wind hazel]

war archives is technically event past events

[spark patio]

one more thing, i will be kinda busy in the next 3 weeks, so should i use the HECLP on events to grind?

also, where can i get those HECLP

[rapid shard]

OPSI gives a bunch first time clearing things

[rain vine]

opsi exchange shop and free weekly supply pack

[rapid shard]

For normal xp/coin grinding is 13-4 better value than 12-4 overall?

[rain vine]

more coin heavy and more restrictive on what ships you can bring

[rapid shard]

Better drop rate on cognitive chips? Basically out at the moment and needing quite a few

[rain vine]

yes

[rapid shard]

13-4 it is then. appreciate it, already got choukai MLB from 12-4 so was looking for a decent change on the grind and bunkerhill looks pretty good

[fiery scroll]

guys, as per the new player guide, the 1st step is to keep clearing till around chap 9 right? in the mean time (Parallel), what else should we focus on?

[rapid shard]

You wanna get to W9 because of Oil Cap and rest on content like Opsi you wont be able do much till your fleets are lvld more and Oil Cap will be key to doing that efficently.

Other than events just try to get to OilCap worlds first

[fiery scroll]

btw, issit recommended to expand dock? and how should i do that? with gems?

[ivory pawn]

Yes and yes.

[rain vine]

buy 3rd slot dorm and 2nd floor of dorm, then dump into dock slots
outside of the 30 slots you can get from guild tech, the only way to get dock slots is buying them with gems

[fiery scroll]

wait, dorm slot, youre using gems?

or use decor coins oO

and guild tech, how do i upgrade, or is it upgraded by the guild

actually.... is there a guide on gems spending?

[viscid swift]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[rain vine]

you have to use gems to be able to put more ships in dorm
for guild tech, the guild has to unlock it, then you have to buy it with coins + guild tokens

[ocean trout]

are we getting this too? a yostar shop for outside the game

[silk helm]

gems?

[verbal plinth]

prob only jp sense they didnt show it in ours

[stark quiver]

how many coins does it take to uncap a gold ship to 120

[viscid swift]

at least 10k

[stark quiver]

over or under 20k
i only have 120k coins and 2 golds to uncap

[viscid swift]

22k total

[stark quiver]

should i do it
and total for 2 ships or 1

[viscid swift]

1 ship

[stark quiver]

[hardy creek]

What type of guns should I use for w14?

[silk helm]

i swear someone from elp had an info graphic on xp and coins needed for 100->120

[stark quiver]

its probably from wiki, but im lazy

[forest palm]

it is

[silk helm]

how often do u guys take oil out of ur mailbox?

[forest palm]

I tend forget I have oil in the mail
doesn't help I buy oil

[versed notch]

ughhh how do i get more retrofit mats

[silk helm]

prayge that yostar gives another hvar event

[versed notch]

i did the three daily hard mode runs

[forest palm]

but typically if I'm hammering away at PR ships, event point grind and so on are what I pull from the oil reserves

[versed notch]

but i need more to retrofit unicorn

[silk helm]

wait till tomorrow and do it again

[versed notch]

sigh

[silk helm]

sometimes it's in the guild shop

[bleak junco]

Medal of honour, maybe research project and guild shop too I guess

[versed notch]

how do i get more medals

i barely have any

[silk helm]

would not recommend using medals then

[bleak junco]

Retiring rare and above ships from my knowledge

[silk helm]

clearing hard mode stages w 3 stars also gives u bonus

[versed notch]

agh

i'll just do it tomorrow then ig

[hardy creek]

Fairey ganett is good for w14 right?

[rain vine]

yes

hedgehog + gannet should cover asw for 14 and 15

[stark quiver]

nah

werent you here for the rerun

[hardy creek]

Should I make 2?

[soft raft]

Didn't they fix the drop rate for the rerun tho

[rain vine]

you should only need 1

[soft raft]

You shouldn't need to

[silk helm]

only the rerun - most fun week of my al career

all to be powercrept by BBs :/

[stark quiver]

worst week of my career 20 minute sleep wakeup schedule was infact not healthy

[silk helm]

holy gamer

i don't think map gear drops have been that good since right? all the event gear from maps r mid

[stark quiver]

not as meta defining

[hardy creek]

Do I need ap gun for 14-3 mob fleet on my bb flagship?

[stark quiver]

run a 457

[knotty jolt]

If ya really need more asw eldridge is a good option cause she has a built in hedgehog

[hardy creek]

This one?

[knotty jolt]

georgia gun good

[hardy creek]

Yeah I'm using her

[stark quiver]

yeh if said ship isnt musashi

[hardy creek]

I'm running FdG, so I should use the Georgia gun?

[knotty jolt]

Yes it's what i used for my fleet

[hardy creek]

Sorry which one is the Georgia gun

[knotty jolt]

the twin 457

[viscid swift]

This

[knotty jolt]

We tend to call some guns by the ships they belong to

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[severe tinsel]

BRS and admiral zenker, which one is better?

[viscid swift]

For?

[clear harbor]

Which ship is this?

[stark quiver]

strasbourg

[clear harbor]

Thank you. She appears to be an event ship for now. 😩 Or maybe not?

[zenith heron]

She'll probably be at next year, since she ran last year, but unsure what month will it be next year

[clear harbor]

Cool cool

[civic prairie]

Is the only way to get gold ordnance report by buying it in port shop?

[soft raft]

It's a possible map drop in OpSi
Just keep farming corrosion 5 zones

[civic prairie]

Alright

[severe tinsel]

Bossing

[viscid swift]

Zenker then but neither is particularly remarkable

[severe tinsel]

Ok

[safe nexus]

i just unlocked reasearch aademy and shipyard do i do anything about them?

[rain vine]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

[wind hazel]

set research focus season 8 on your Research Academy
go to shipyard, start Roon/Saint Louis, then you can forget about shipyard until chapter 9/event hard mode

[safe nexus]

to summarize, shipyard is to research and get ships for either the ship or the gear?

[wind hazel]

shipyard is the place for you to develop the ship

research academy is the place for you to get ship and gear blueprints

shipyard ships need blueprints to limit break, they don't use bulins

older ships, specifically PR1 to PR5, and DR2 to DR4, can be coined. you can buy their blueprints with coin for enhancement purposes

PR=gold ship
DR=rainbow ship

[safe nexus]

i saw this at the wiki and i dont get about coin up

[mint flint]

You spend coin and get bp

First few get a discount daily

[wind hazel]

so normally, for example Kansas from PR8, you can see I need her blueprints before i can enhance her. to get these blueprints, i need to do research academy for the blueprints

they give us the option to buy these blueprints with coin for older ships from PR1-5 DR2-4

so we don't need to do researches from Research Academy for their blueprints anymore

[rain vine]

if you see this icon in shipyard, then the ship can be coined and you dont need to do research projects

[safe nexus]

ok ty

started reasearch on saint louis, do i have to wait 6 days before i can use her or something?

[rain vine]

you have to wait 6 days to have access to the missions to unlock her
after that point, you will need to spend 35 days of buying 10 bps per day to get her to a usable state

[safe nexus]

😭 what is this

[mint flint]

You also need to complete her dev missions first

Research and dockyard are huge timesinks, you'll get there eventually

[rain vine]

35 days is actually quick for research
without coining, youre looking at several months

[wind hazel]

basically game's way to give you strong ships for free, but the cost is time

[stark quiver]

the cost is coins

[wind hazel]

you're coin

[safe nexus]

i feel like i reach chapter 9 before saint louis is usable then

[mint flint]

You definitely will

[wind hazel]

yes, you will

[mint flint]

Farming xp before w9 is terrible, and remains bad until w12

[wind hazel]

louis is just a beginner pick because you can't pick anyone else, truth to be told. you don't need to use her

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[wind hazel]

what you really want is stuff like Anchorage

[safe nexus]

at handbook it says i can unlock mision i can unlock all or only 1 series, and if its 1 which do i pick

[safe nexus]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Priority_ships

do i target these at the future same for DR list

[rain vine]

for DRs, agir and fdg

[rapid shard]

Anchorage Harbin Chesire and Georgia are all very solid PR ships. Can only speak for those as they are what i have leveled and running atm

[wind hazel]

it's usually
Roon/Louis>filler>FDG>Anchorage, Agir, the rest PR4 except Marco>Plymouth>whatever you want

[rapid shard]

Hardest part will jsut be getting fleet tech to start them

[wind hazel]

Monarch might actually be good pick nowadays

[rapid shard]

Is marco that bad? Havent had a chance to check out the kit

[wind hazel]

i forgot what's her condition

[wind hazel]

just underwhelming, standard gold BB

[rapid shard]

Her augment is like a flat 30% dmg boost which i seen some vids testing and its doing pretty solid dmg

[wind hazel]

the rest of PR4 are really strong ships compare to her

[rapid shard]

Not UR level but pretty good

[wind hazel]

monarch 10 RN mf ships should be doable?

[rapid shard]

Im finishing up kearsage right now then either gonna go back to get roon or her

[wind hazel]

uni rodney ark repulse hermes renown qe. 3 more easy to get RN ships?

[rapid shard]

Doesnt IB ships give more fleet tech compared to others?

[wind hazel]

• nelson, 2 more

[rapid shard]

royal navy stuff is actually pretty stacked to start out with and ease of acquiring them

[wind hazel]

erebus and terror 10 ships, i guess doable very fast

[drowsy gust]

What is the best lineup for PvP right now?

[wind hazel]

i guess it's like this
Roon/Louis>Monarch>filler>FDG>Anchorage, Agir, the rest PR4 except Marco>Plymouth>whatever you want

[wind hazel]

check pvp pin #pvp

[rapid shard]

Yeah i need someone whos better at testing to see how Monarch does in later game content and overall value

[honest sequoia]

where do i get eldrige

[wind hazel]

merit shop

[rain vine]

pvp shop

[rapid shard]

Just gotta wait for rotation

[wind hazel]

monarch isn't better than daisen, and even daisen isn't used for later game content, so there's that

[rapid shard]

That with the new augment factored in?

[wind hazel]

it's great value for beginner though

yes with augment. otherwise not even worth considering

[rapid shard]

Once i finish Kear i need to focus on better late game so i can start building for W14 now. Chesire was tank for mob fleet to help with AA and did great in 13 but tried 14-1 and she couldnt quite hold up. Would Roon with augment be able to hold up better or will i need to get Agir for mob tank?

[wind hazel]

agir is overkill, and should be put on boss instead

if you have eldridge, she's great for w14 mob

[rapid shard]

Anch is Boss tank currently. swap them around? and havent gotten lucky to snag eldridge from merit yet

[wind hazel]

depends on what you have, i usually recommend putting agir and anchorage for boss

really depends on what you have

[rapid shard]

Ive got a severe lack of actual tanks. Best ones in fleet right now that i know of is Anch Chesire PortlandRetro and Eugn. no other notable ones that ive seen on lists

[wind hazel]

and while roon can work as mob tank i prefer someone tankier for that role for w14

[rain vine]

would put ancho in mob and agir in boss

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief#budget-mob

[crystal flume]

this week maintenance include new IJN UR right?

thank you

[rapid shard]

Yeah ive benn looking over that. i dont have really any of the stuff he has listed for tanks other than anchorage right now. Is the teh Samheart list that the bot has still good to follow?

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/

This one specifically

[wind hazel]

it's not chapter specific

w14 requires different fleet building

if you got the time, you can skim through the w14 threads in this channel, see what people use what cheeky recommend to give you some picture of the fleetbuilding, particularly on the gear

[rapid shard]

Yeah im still working on trying to optimize gear a bit more.

For anchorage specifically is it worth the drop in dmg to run fastest torps over gold quadmags to proc skill more?

[wind hazel]

more like it's recommended to do so lol

her torp damage is poop regardless what torp you put on her

and you want the smokescreen more than her poopoo torp damage

[rapid shard]

This is her current setup atm

[crystal flume]

any kind rarity BB can give reload stat once reach lvl 120 right?

[wind hazel]

either one of these if you can, and give that AA gun to your main fleet

if you're using staag on main fleet already then remove and use better aa gun for her

[wind hazel]

it's ship specific, not rarity specific

[rapid shard]

the haze is just there cause im working on building stags and dont have many other Gold options

[crystal flume]

ah good to know then thank you

[wind hazel]

only these ships give bb rld

[crystal flume]

!!!

so few

[rain vine]

just give them gold 113mm (roombas)

[wind hazel]

[rapid shard]

Ive got a single gold roomba and its on Sandy atm lol

[wind hazel]

quad bofor?

[rapid shard]

One on chesire

[wind hazel]

only two gold guns?

[rapid shard]

are the Octuples decent? got a few of them

and twin 105mm AAs

[wind hazel]

anything gold is fine

hit AA gun=give main fleet

only some case where you want hit aa gun, but it's definitely not on anchorage

[crystal flume]

still thank you again

[wind hazel]

then again maybe also work as accelerator?

[fiery scroll]

Hi Guys, dumb question here, X-4 means stage 10-4 right?

or is it any stage, -4?

[stark quiver]

any stage -4

[rapid shard]

any stage 4

[wind hazel]

what about final fantasy X-2?

[rapid shard]

What is this auxiliary on the suchi list for W14 on unicorn?

[sweet delta]

/wiki fairey gannet

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Gannet

[rapid shard]

Thats better to run over a second gold catapult?

[rain vine]

its an anti-sub aux
that plus a hedgehog on vanguard will cover subs

[copper pine]

what is rodney meta's Armor?

[rapid shard]

heavy

[copper pine]

CV or BB better comp vs her?

[rain vine]

cv, but you need to space out your airstrikes by at least 1.5 seconds

[stable badger]

azur lane wiki has not been updated since atelier event. something happened?

[gilded dune]

How many cubes typically does it take to get everything off a banner?

[eternal basalt]

what?

[stable badger]

usually i get everything within 200 cubes. but there have been* 2 events for URs where i had to used 400 or more

[sweet delta]

200 cubes for a full 3 or 4 ship banner or something?

[eternal basalt]

2 - ⁸

[safe nexus]

please help

[stable badger]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki

[rain vine]

UR banners is 400 to pity
its possible to get very unlucky and not get the purple/gold ship on banner even within those 400 cubes

[stable badger]

This. it happened once to me. and another had to go to pity for the UR itself

[versed forum]

15-4 where to put eldridge and essex ret?

[stark quiver]

essex replace implacable

[versed forum]

is my boss fleet strong enough to clear 2 bosses

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&limit=50&days=7&enhanced=1&urlversion=2

[stark quiver]

potentially with proper gearing
do you have eld retro?
she'd help with frontline sustainability

[versed forum]

yes already have her

[stark quiver]

personally slot her in replacement with trafalgar and make mob do two bosses
suchi's guide has the strat

~~i need to ~~

[versed forum]

thanks

[safe nexus]

do i focus on reasearching 8/7/4 with priority in that order? for unicorn?

[wind hazel]

huh?

you focus research on series 8 for series8 ships and gear, not for unicorn

[vivid nebula]

Is this worth doing?

[wind hazel]

no

at least not on this ship lol

[vivid nebula]

But these types of research are ok to do?

[wind hazel]

rainbow ones

[vivid nebula]

I always got turned off by the fact it uses cubes

[fleet berry]

It's relatively rare and drops a lot of BP. Worth if rainbow ships and have a lot of cubes (400+).

[vivid nebula]

Cube econ not too great on my end

I do the rainbow ones when I have like 460+

[grizzled sundial]

Hence you practice saving and not waste cube early on.

[vivid nebula]

I actually had quite a bit before. Roughly 900 and then I got dropped down to 100 by 2 events in a row and ended up quitting

I came back around July and this is what I have saved up so far (considering I rolled during Ryza 2)

[fleet berry]

Like I said, it's rare and very worth it on DR. I'll take it even if you only have 100 cubes. Maybe 150 or so.

I kept my research queue at 100% all the time and I will be very surprised if I see one once every two weeks or three weeks.

[vivid nebula]

The last time I saw one was back in January before I quit XD

What's the most optimal way to rack up T3 Ordinance Testing Reports btw? I am swimming in the other print types but not these, unfortunately.

[rain vine]

play opsi every month and buy them from the port shop

[vivid nebula]

Yep. Ive been doing that

[rain vine]

you inherently will get them very slowly over time

[vivid nebula]

Currently sitting on 3 of them

thanks

[fleet berry]

Converting Gold Ordnances to the Rainbow one, but it's quite expensive. Hence why you just be picky and wait faster.

[modest latch]

im looking at the Riceist Meowfficers guide what does he mean about having 9 or 10 point cat?

[safe nexus]

which augment do i target? the ones for unicorn?

[rain vine]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[light trail]

are any of the PR7 fate sims really good or can i just work towards them in any order because it doesnt matter

[fiery scroll]

btw, when is the restart time for this game? (Like the next day)

[light trail]

is halford a ship that exists now

[modest latch]

it happened 41 minutes ago, this should be the next reset <t:1757487600:F>

[harsh gust]

40 minutes ago, so whatever it is in your timezone

[fiery scroll]

ah okok, thanks mate

[safe nexus]

do i use Z23 or leander?

[rapid shard]

Check out the starter fleet guide in the bot channel

/ guide check out the en compendium guide link

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[safe nexus]

ty

[fiery scroll]

btw, is there an event soon that is recommended to pull for?

[rapid shard]

Yes Friday will be a new UR event

[fiery scroll]

cool 🙂

[rapid shard]

Check out the #jp-8th-anniversary-livestream-discussion channel for info

[onyx flame]

Means all the talents points are invested into good talents
4 points from base talents other 6 talent points from every 5 levels up to lvl 30

[modest latch]

ah tyty

[muted delta]

for the hard mode missions that award gold retrofit blueprints, can you just 3 star a node and not reach 100% completion to get the blueprints?

[muted crescent]

yes, you can do that for retrofit bps

[muted delta]

aight ty

[versed forum]

is i404 completely free or is it just like UR DD shop 2dupes?

[wind hazel]

shop with dupe

[fiery scroll]

newbie question, for Hard 1-1, how come i sortie it, and the "Kill escort ship" or something, [1/3] doesnt get completed? i sortie-d like 3 times....

[wind hazel]

clearing mode will turn off escorts on hard mode

[fiery scroll]

ah so, need to manual it?

[wind hazel]

yes, unfortunately

[fiery scroll]

thats annoying.... along with the Daily mission of "Sortie it"

[vestal raven]

should i retrofit yuudachi? or nah

[wind hazel]

very low priority

[gritty mulch]

Is she good ?

[barren token]

She now has an Augment which makes her better

[gritty mulch]

Ty

[orchid fulcrum]

ask>if i have 1 mlb new jersey and i got 1 more copy of her...should i keep or retire it?

[stable badger]

she a good off-tank with has very strong HE dmg, if you put the right gun on her. that said, there's are better options~

[bold girder]

if u re not going to 2.team with nj then no need i think

I get one extra Bismarck 2 for extra opsi team

If you're going to do it like me, then you don't need to retire. But as I said, this is just my opinion; others may disagree

[orchid fulcrum]

okay...

[rapid summit]

Should I focusing on maxing out all dorm slots so I can have 6 slots and always have them at 150 mood instead of like 113 mood

[harsh gust]

dorm 2nd floor mimics amount of slots you have unlocked, so if you have 3 slots and buy 2nd floor (which is cheaper than 4-6 slots iirc?) you'll get 6 total slots for morale regen if that's what you after

[rapid summit]

Ohhh Okk ty

[harsh gust]

later on you can expand to get more slots which might be worth it for some passive exp gain, but it gets pretty expensive and you probably will be better off just getting more dock slots instead

[twin parcel]

Is there any gap between JP/CN server vs Global like how Blue Archive is behind 6 months?

Or do we get events & banners about same time on all servers?

I was just curious when is next update coming...

[harsh gust]

technically the gap is like 3 hours due to timezones

but no, the servers are in sync

[twin parcel]

Eh, so it's same then. Thanks, when is the next update coming?

Those UR & SSR teased in Game News, was it 8th anniversary one...?

[harsh gust]

yes, JP anniversary
update is on friday iirc

[twin parcel]

So 12 for me, thanks...

[spark patio]

hi gph, i can buy eldridge now. is she worth buying?

[deep totem]

if you have her retro item then yes. she very good after retro

[spark patio]

the micro?

i did have

[twin parcel]

Is Tashkent any good? Just got her randomly from standard banner...

[spark patio]

time to grind again...

[shy iris]

genuine question what does this gun do

[hollow gust]

Time fuse , basically nothing

Normal version is just for fp

[shy iris]

wdym by time fuse

[rapid shard]

Any actual gain to upgrade it?

[wispy cosmos]

do u have nc's aug

[cobalt rapids]

good dmg with aug but nothing special
depending where u are and what u have shes not worth raising

[rapid shard]

Not yet gonna get her archive once ijn event over

[wispy cosmos]

then no

[gilded carbon]

Are any of the story-locked farmable Characters still worth it outside of collection and Tech?

Currently Farming 9-4 because little else to do

Got her?

[twin parcel]

@cobalt rapids

[terse roost]

What happens when you try to play on 2 devices simultaneously

[bold girder]

[twin parcel]

Only one will log in & other will be logged out I guess. Like other games...

[twin parcel]

I just started from the Massena banner...

Was saving for her skin but was short of 20 something gems before it ended...

[cobalt rapids]

no u got ur hands full with other golds u need to mlb
tash is benched

[bold girder]

If you're going to try to get all the ships, you might need to spend a LITTLE gem on docks

[twin parcel]

Who should I focus on? What should be my team...?

[cobalt rapids]

if u got essex retro item
massena essex unicorn portland helena laffey

[gilded carbon]

Hood. A great BC for a start

[cobalt rapids]

otherwise use enterprise over essex

when u reach ch9 consider raising a 2nd fleet

[twin parcel]

Oh I forgot to mention, I also have New Jersey I forgot to include her in filter...

[bold girder]

mlb?

[cobalt rapids]

unless nj has 6 gold stars u wont use her

[twin parcel]

No? Just started. Lv70...

[cobalt rapids]

and we have new UR in a few days so she doesnt take prio for UR bulins

[twin parcel]

And now I just got Akagi from 3-4 hard grind. Is she good...?

[cobalt rapids]

nno

[bold girder]

You can look at the ships from here if you want. https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb

[twin parcel]

Cool, so my current Boss team is New Jersey, Enterprise & Essex (Main) and Portland, Helena & Indianapolis.

Mob team is, Massena, Unicorn & Hood and London, Laffey & random...

[twin parcel]

I was thinking of getting Shinano from Pity once I reach 400, I'm already at 200, got 200 more cubes. Waiting for UR banner assuming she's good...

[cobalt rapids]

UR banner wont build perma pity
u shouldnt spend ur cubes intentionally on perma banners and only stick to 1 light build / day outside events because its fully refunded

[twin parcel]

[cobalt rapids]

ships need limit breaks to be good
and perma pity ships are old ships that are very likely to not be good investments compared to the new shinier URs

[bold girder]

i would prefer vanguard

[twin parcel]

Oof, I didn't know that...

[bold girder]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-crying-crying-girl-crying-anime-crying-anime-girl-gif-4473502144398719776

[twin parcel]

Tho I am doing 1 build per day, I just pulled some on previous banner of Massena guess that's why it's 200 now...

[umbral briar]

ask, If I haven't LB'd my ship and its level is already maxed, can I still got XP for the PR ship?

[gilded carbon]

Should, yes

But mlb-ing these three should be a matter of a week or two more at the earliest

[obtuse cloud]

zeppy :0

[simple ice]

might be a dumb question, regarding helenas debuff, how to tell if it worked, does the skill activation on screen only show if it worked or does it always show ?

[wind hazel]

it will show on screen if it activates

[safe nexus]

Is there a way to make the loading screen not having questionable scenes.

[wind hazel]

sadly no

[onyx flame]

how worth is it to upgrade the lecture hall (looking at the steep coin cost)

[safe nexus]

I want to play in public 😭

[gilded carbon]

Put the Phone in your Pocket or lean it front-first against something while in Public

When a loading-screen happens. Also disable lewd Skins beforehand

[safe nexus]

I did and it's hard cause I play this game brain ded where I press start and then nothing goes on my mind then I forgot

😭

[tropic tusk]

just incase i somehow miss it is there a way to switch the hit zone to stright instead of sideway like now

[undone plover]

No but u can move ships into the zone using the other ability
But u shouldnt use the move just for this purpose

[soft raft]

I doubt it but did they say anything on stream about the new plane being added to gear lab or not

[tropic tusk]

nice thx

[soft raft]

(for context, some guy on the subreddit thinks it's going to be added there)

[strange sphinx]

operation rainbow + for Eldrige? how's the dmg

[undone plover]

I really doubt it
I dont think that has happened with any event so far
And we are not due for a gear lab update anyway

[compact helm]

does anyone have the link to the google doc that list tiers for everyship in the game for a bunch of mode? i forgot where i found it and couldnt find it again

[undone plover]

In general eldridge’s dmg is not that impressive
If u are asking about which gun to use for her then typical DD guns are fine
Rainbows > twin 127/twin130/harbin gun/battlegun

[undone plover]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[tropic tusk]

i assume date alive should be nov collab right?

[undone plover]

What happened to the command

[compact helm]

tysm!

[strange sphinx]

No I meant the skill that I always see during battle

[undone plover]

@compact helm
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[undone plover]

Check here
Search rainbow+
Very little dmg
That skill is more important cuz it makes your vanguard invulnerable for a few seconds
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[undone plover]

Most likely if we go by old schedule
But didnt they mention 2 collabs? Or am I wrong?

[tropic tusk]

there was 2 collab? or ur talking about the ninja one if so isnt that sakarua?

[undone plover]

Idk let me check the summary

[safe nexus]

New players should save up for impactful unique augments instead of crafting or upgrading blue/purple augments.

this mean i shouldn't craft unicorn augment or

[undone plover]

What was the one at the top?

[wind hazel]

unicorn doesn't have any unique augment

[tropic tusk]

u will be using unicorn event at wrodl 15 and she dont have have unique aug

[undone plover]

And yes save augment cores for impactful unique augments first

[tropic tusk]

oh wtf theres a 2nd one ... they didnt post in twitter

[wind hazel]

prioritize unique augment like for Hood or Sandiego's first, you can check it here https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[safe nexus]

normal and unique augment have what difference?

[undone plover]

Normal is a minor stat boost
Unique is SR rarity and does a lot more if it is good

[eternal basalt]

It was a tease before the ACTUAL announcement AFAIK

[safe nexus]

oh ok ty

[tropic tusk]

most of the the unique aug are better and ofcouse there a ones that makes the ship more bad

[undone plover]

For example check san diego
U will see u can craft a gold augment for her

If u want assessment of unique augments check this page

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[safe nexus]

ok thanks

[wind hazel]

am i shadowbanned

[forest palm]

some people are speculating Strike Witches due to font style

[undone plover]

So I guess it might be similar to BRS? 1 mini 1 major?
Guess we will see

[undone plover]

No I just missed that u linked it

[tropic tusk]

lets hope the mini is all free like brs

[eternal basalt]

If we got a mini in week 3, they would have announced it...

[undone plover]

It is probably not for next event yes
If it even is mini
Which I am not sure
I just said it is possible

[eternal basalt]

~~Next november ~~

[native robin]

world 13 is such an ass

need tips lmao

[tropic tusk]

if world 13 is ass wht is world 15 lol

[weary gust]

World 13 is the first world that requires any kind of actual fleet comp and good gearing. Everything up to that can be easily brute forced by level alone. You need to have decent AA and fleet comp.

[undone plover]

Make a thread
Show fleets and dock

[rapid shard]

AA is key to 13 you need good vanguard units like sandy Cheshire etc, CVs as well

[wind hazel]

what are some good accessible, including medal shop, CV/L? other than indep saratoga enterprise

[hollow gust]

unicorn

[wind hazel]

other than that too

[gilded carbon]

And a good set of AA-guns that Work together. Only the Roomba's wont suffice anymore

[hardy creek]

Is this good for w14?

[hollow gust]

you can only roomba w15

[wind hazel]

no, change 155 to 155kai. give hit aa gun

and give hpfsr instead of black hell

[gilded carbon]

When i first asked about it, i got told that only Roomba wont cut it at some point

[wind hazel]

basically this

[hardy creek]

Alright thx

[native robin]

World 13 helppppppppp

[wind hazel]

what can fill last slot? lol

[civic prairie]

Is helena good for w11+ and opsi?im not build her yet

[wind hazel]

good up until w13, opsi forever good

[civic prairie]

Oh alr guess ill start build her

[hardy creek]

Is it possible to 1:1 12-4?

[eternal basalt]

Friday the UR

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 accessible

[eternal basalt]

It got oil cap, so you don't really want to though

[hardy creek]

Yeah, but I need lots of coin to coin FdG and Agir at the same time

[atomic abyss]

you cant coin them at the same time though

you cant coin DRs at the same time

[wind hazel]

you cant?

[atomic abyss]

or well

[silk helm]

haku 😄

[atomic abyss]

you can it's just not very efficient

[tropic tusk]

u cant coin with discount at the sme time

[wind hazel]

they just share the discount isnt it

[atomic abyss]

but even then why would you choose to do both simultaneously

[eternal basalt]

You can, but only 2 free prints per day... they are both DR

[atomic abyss]

it's like spreading UR bulins

[silk helm]

yo so true

[wind hazel]

i mean if i need both...

[atomic abyss]

darling fdg is just gonna be worse than almost everything else if it's not d30

i suppose you can make the case with agir

[wind hazel]

precisely

what do you think he's farming gold for lol

[atomic abyss]

at what dev level does agir outport even

[wind hazel]

should be 15

[atomic abyss]

i summon @mebot

let me try that again

i summon @slow fox

[silk helm]

who pinged me

[tropic tusk]

if i run auto with this how should i change my boss fleet?

[wind hazel]

i have romantic dates with mebot sometimes, we share passion for eHP, he told me dev15 agir outtank portland. more real than our eyes in the mirror.

[tropic tusk]

on w15 -4

[atomic abyss]

ayo mori lore

[atomic abyss]

reject IJN
accept USS supremacy

like unironically

[tropic tusk]

wt should i use for auto 15-4

[eternal basalt]

Get new IJN UR, worship IJN supremecy

[atomic abyss]

i mean why do you want to change the fleet

[wind hazel]

just try it auto. if fail, go back to manual like how you did before clear, then auto clear when threat is lower lol

[atomic abyss]

^

like try it out first

if it aint broke dont fix it

if it isnt working
then we need to see why it isnt working

[tropic tusk]

i dont want to manuel anymore

[atomic abyss]

i only made the line for USS because AA could be an issue

[eternal basalt]

(Might need to keep an eye on things till safe)

[tropic tusk]

typo

[atomic abyss]

so identify the issue, if any

then decide the course of action from there

[wind hazel]

true if you have essex retro, she could be better

[late flame]

-# essex supremacy

[tropic tusk]

sawp with amgi?

[wind hazel]

enough EU to activate the 1dmg

[atomic abyss]

you would replace nano before amagi to begin with

[wind hazel]

ok maybe need more lol i forgot, is it 4

[tropic tusk]

same gear?

[silk helm]

yes

[wind hazel]

yorktown2 time

[silk helm]

4 incl essex iirc

[atomic abyss]

welcome back to 2019
where essex dominated engame AL (w12/13)

[tropic tusk]

my yk2 is lb0

[atomic abyss]

[wind hazel]

it's ok essex still great, you can double fighter her

[gilded carbon]

Gear-lvl aside, is that acceptable for Shinano as a Boss-Fleet member? Exchanging Enty for her?

Gear will be upgraded of course

[cobalt rapids]

gear depends on content
and timing

[wind hazel]

the idea is correct

vs heavy anyway

[gilded carbon]

Pure Boss-fleet so converging Torp-Bomber? With AvP to slow and Amagi CV. Timing ist being tested soon.

Augment too, of course

[tropic tusk]

so jkust exxex with nano and same gear is better?

[wind hazel]

probably this

[cobalt rapids]

loadout depends on armor
you run rockets in the first slot for l/m unless ur pairing her with amagi
and ofc u want her to sync with avp so ur ordonance actually hits
and 2x ryuusei nano is very slow so its unlikely she syncs with an activated avp

[tropic tusk]

ok 3q

[wind hazel]

is double wyvren a thing?

[cobalt rapids]

for rich ppl

[late flame]

in pvp on russian cat

[gilded carbon]

Oh dear. Maybe i Made a mistake then. I have the gear that fastens her airstrikes?

[cobalt rapids]

adjusting tbs is more dmg gain than switch catapults to beacons

[tropic tusk]

thread only goes down per map clear right?

nice 3q

[eternal moth]

Later stages require more clears to remove threat

[tropic tusk]

how many does 15-4 require

[eternal moth]

I want to say 10. Do you know how many you've done? Click the threat and it'll give you a number

[eternal basalt]

10

[tropic tusk]

in a bit , trying to auto run it and see how life goes

does it says here

[eternal basalt]

At the intro screen

[tropic tusk]

i shall leave the auto run one sec

so 7 more?

[gilded carbon]

I will open a thread when im Home to have more Attention for it

Thank you so far, Umi

[wind hazel]

have you been manualing the first 3 post clear? or what

[tropic tusk]

yes, hand clear 3 times

[wind hazel]

[tropic tusk]

7 more times to go looks like

[eternal basalt]

~~And then 50x auto for drop ~~

[tropic tusk]

hey its going to dorp this run

trust

[wind hazel]

technically houston2 is the easiest drop by %

[tropic tusk]

in mori i believe

[wind hazel]

every other map drop is only 1 per sortie

[turbid marsh]

yeah by oil, pretty much the highest XD

[tropic tusk]

oh yea this is 3 boss

[wind hazel]

yes

at least you get the idea, unlike hassat 😭

[tropic tusk]

in mori i trust