gameplay-help

[stark quiver]

bro is broke

[wind hazel]

well, DR

[cobalt robin]

leave me alone 😔

[stark quiver]

dw im also a new player

[wind hazel]

me too

[cobalt robin]

top 10 lies

In 10 months prolly

Need to dev 30 anchorage, fdg and agir 😔

[narrow kiln]

I realized that I wanted to ask this...
And what do you think about Dead Master and BRS?

[cobalt robin]

dead master has a nice bikini skin

[stark quiver]

they ok
probably never be used for me

[narrow kiln]

I hate skins like this.
(Oh, off-topic), I got a skin in PGR to dress up character.

[cobalt robin]

her bikini skin is pretty and not just fan service

[narrow kiln]

My dream is to give normal clothes to BRS.
I have her from two collabs.

I don't have a skin on Belarus because I think they are too naked.
In general, I have this attitude in everything.

[cobalt robin]

police will be here soon 🤫

[narrow kiln]

The only thing that can scare me is the KGB.
XD

[balmy wharf]

Is 15-3 plane heavy? Or just tons of subs?

Or both…

[stark quiver]

w15 itself is plane heavy

[balmy wharf]

Ah… I’m cooked then, thanks

[cobalt rapids]

give the campaign guide a read

[stark quiver]

take chapter 13 hard, times that by a few
and then chapter 14

and slap then together to get chapter 15

[little tree]

Hi new players you should research mainz as first ship best for new players

[balmy wharf]

Oh… 15-3 is plane & sub heavy and has a double boss too…

[little tree]

[little tree]

15-4 has 3 bosses and 2 super carrirs

[balmy wharf]

Ohhh…. Autoing it will be hard then I reckon

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur fleets, gear, etc.
it can range from hard to easy cruising

[eager mulch]

how do I easy cruising

[little tree]

Just have cheekys dock and it's easy

[little tree]

Retire amagi chan

[eager mulch]

[stark quiver]

manualling is easy af, autoing requires some semblence of fleet building

[eager mulch]

[little tree]

Does auto search go for the super carrier nodes?

[sweet delta]

it cannot, because do not exist

[cobalt rapids]

auto search only works on clearing mode and clearing mode removes supper carrier nodes

[little tree]

What clearing mode easier this is outrageous

[muted crescent]

chat who do I use the gold roomba on?

[narrow kiln]

I understand that I am running ahead for eternity...
But what is sCV

[muted crescent]

I have these (fleet 1 is main boss fleet)

[cobalt robin]

Sandy

[muted crescent]

got it, thx

[cobalt rapids]

everyone in order of the best users
u can find roughly whose the best user by muliplying their mounts eff and aa modes
or just use mebot chart

[narrow kiln]

How stupid is the idea of taking New Jersey from the notebook for the sake of crossfleet skill?
(I have such an idea, and non-MLB Shinano)

[wind hazel]

getting shinano to mlb is the better idea

[cobalt rapids]

very
in the first place xfleets scale with the stats of the ship that provides it
in the 2nd place xfleets dont rly matter they are just helping hand for lvling fleets and alil bit in opsi
so lb0 nj would be just useless even for xfleet

[narrow kiln]

It won't be soon... (we need to spend another 350 cubs for this)
By the way, a fleet of Shinano and Akagi and Kagi, without taking into account the complete lack of protection against suicide boats, how stupid would it be?

[balmy wharf]

Turns out the first boss nodes are roughly equivalent to 3 star BB or CV nodes from 15-2, perhaps even easier. Not even a hint of difficulty.

[hybrid forge]

30 minute cube PR or 5 hour purple DR face?

[cobalt rapids]

akagi and kaga are weak ships
shinano doesnt magically make weak ijn carriers good
and it also has a lack of slow supports
so good luck finding a boss that has stop timings for both akaga fast launches and shinanos
unless its completely stationary

[cobalt rapids]

UL

[balmy wharf]

I just hit my first 15-3 BB node… wiped out my entries fleet from full health…
Yikes, those boss nodes are a joke, BB however are a nightmare

[dire kestrel]

What's Unicorns special weapon?

[cobalt rapids]

wdym special weapon

[cobalt robin]

What

[dire kestrel]

Special gear

[cobalt rapids]

augment ? she doesnt have a personal augment

[dire kestrel]

Really? I thought she would since Laffey has one

[cobalt rapids]

really really

[viscid swift]

not everyship has a unique augment

[soft raft]

what kind of correlation is that?

[viscid swift]

most of the don't actually

[cobalt robin]

is w14 difficult? I'll attempt it soon (well I still need 3 commander lvls so not soon)

[cobalt rapids]

if u read the ch14 guide and go prepared its not

[cobalt robin]

where is it

[crimson glacier]

its massive difficulty spike compared to previous campaign stuff tho

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief also in /guide

[cobalt robin]

Alright

[cobalt robin]

Are the ur gear needed for w14?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[stark quiver]

no

[cobalt rapids]

but pls dont scroll only to example fleets

[cobalt robin]

I am reading it

[balmy wharf]

For 15-3 should my fritz use CL gun or AA gun in the third slot?

[viscid swift]

AA gun

[balmy wharf]

Thanks, sextuple right?

Or twin 240? Or stag?

[narrow kiln]

How good of an idea is it to keep this letter in reserve until I can get Shinano?

[wind hazel]

very good

[cobalt rapids]

give her rainbows or staag

[hybrid forge]

I think I have the same idea, if only because the faster I clear out PR the faster I get only DR face research

[cobalt rapids]

H can give u rainbow prints aswell anyway, the UL is just good value

[balmy wharf]

Should I prioritize frontline or backline for rainbow AA?

[cobalt rapids]

front

[hybrid forge]

Face researches can't give you prints for anything but the face ship I'm quite sure

[balmy wharf]

Ok, staag it is then

[cobalt rapids]

im just assuming all ur vanguards have better slots than fritz tho

[balmy wharf]

Z52, Sandy and Eldridge (gold AA).

What formation should I do for 15-3 mob fleet, circular (AA boost) or line (TRP & Hit boost, -Eva)?

[stark quiver]

whats the backline

[balmy wharf]

Uni, Raffy, Fritz

[cobalt rapids]

alternate as needed but prob circular

[balmy wharf]

Ok thanks

[dreamy blade]

you can fight a 3*/boss node on double line and quit out before finishing, try again with circular, see which one leaves you with more hp

[balmy wharf]

I presume I use my six subs for Super carry, Boss nodes x2, and 3 star BB nodes?

[soft raft]

six?

[balmy wharf]

you have six ammo for sub

[soft raft]

oh that
that read like 2 submarine fleets

[cobalt rapids]

i would just avoid large BB formation altogether if i were u unless ure 3 staring

[balmy wharf]

They don’t really run out of oxygen even if I use them, I run out of ammo long before that.

[cobalt rapids]

if you dont summon them early they dont run out of oxy yes

[crimson glacier]

uhh what

[eternal basalt]

They run out of oxygen pretty much every battle

[balmy wharf]

I was indeed hoping to three star, but I suppose 100% is fine for now then

[crimson glacier]

you dont run out of ammo in a fight

[storm olive]

Just 3 star on safe, it's alot easier

[dreamy blade]

most sane people dont try to 3star 15-3/15-4 on lethal

[cobalt robin]

Maybe he's not sane 😔

[balmy wharf]

Oh… I forgot that was even an option lol

[cobalt rapids]

clearing mode and safe are a night and day difference when 3 staring

[balmy wharf]

These things, I was wondering what 6 targets I should use my subs on. But now that I know Easy mode is an option, it doesn’t even matter.

[crimson glacier]

you arent meant use use the ammo outside of summoning

hunt dmg just doesnt make enough of a difference

[balmy wharf]

I exclusively summon, but attack mode is the easiest way to show the ammo count thingy

[crimson glacier]

okay but even then the subs ran out of oxy basically every fight

unless you delay the summon

[balmy wharf]

I’m pretty sure summon also uses sub ammo right?

[crimson glacier]

yes it uses 1 ammo

[dreamy blade]

how is the new CL gun from pr8? compared to seattle gun or 155kai

[balmy wharf]

As I thought, I was just wondering which enemies to throw that stupid ammo at. But now that I know easy mode is an option, that makes this 15-3 world so much easier, since I don’t have to 3 star on clearing mode

[cobalt robin]

Is Eldridge non retro still good?

[crimson glacier]

no

[cobalt robin]

😔

[balmy wharf]

iirc she doesn’t get her built in “hedgehog ASW” until after retrofit, thus no

[dreamy blade]

her retrofit event is due to rerun soon™

[crimson glacier]

the asw isnt even the reason why she is good

[cobalt robin]

soon 😔

[balmy wharf]

Isn’t it? I just use her for ASW. What else is she good at?

[crimson glacier]

frontline survivability

[dreamy blade]

you can look at the current meta showdown to see why eldridge is irreplaceable for vanguard survivability

[hollow gust]

Not like new players should invest into her anyway . They just don't need it

[balmy wharf]

Ah she’s a “light” tank as well then

[crimson glacier]

she isnt a tank

[dreamy blade]

she periodically makes your entire vanguard immune to dmg which is a pretty good thing to have

[hollow gust]

Sandy is a far better investment for players , and warspite if need be

[stark quiver]

🔥 ♿

[balmy wharf]

Oh… cool. So should Eldridge, sandy or z52 be in first slot?

[dreamy blade]

z52

[balmy wharf]

Due to her high EVA I suppose?

[crimson glacier]

high eva high hp dmg reduction skill

[dreamy blade]

assuming this is a mob fleet, z52 also heals herself

sandy in the middle, eld is usually offtank

[hollow gust]

Eva not really what makes Z52 tanky, all DD Eva are high

[dreamy blade]

although according to the sacred texts, eld has higher ehp than z52 (136.92 vs 123.41)

[crimson glacier]

you are comparing eldridge with eldrige buff to z52 without eldridge buff

[dreamy blade]

yeah

[crimson glacier]

when z52 has eldridge buff if they are on the same fleet

[balmy wharf]

I didn’t know Z52 had heals. Perhaps I should start reading skill descriptions, rather than just using whatever ship looks the best…

[cobalt rapids]

once u go back to w12 farming using w.e looks best will work

[dreamy blade]

unless im missing something about the stats, it looks really good? assuming i dont have infinite plyguns

[balmy wharf]

Do I even need to wipe out the super carrier, or should I just leave it alone until I’m on my 3 star easy mode run? Does that super carrier even do anything extra if I just leave it alone? I assumed it gave extra air support to the other enemy fleets

[stark quiver]

do you wanna get slapped by even more planes

[dreamy blade]

you have to kill it ASAP

[balmy wharf]

If it lets me avoid BB node, yes, otherwise no.

[stark quiver]

what bb node

can you show me a ss of whats happening

[cobalt rapids]

its a worse 155kai unless they have an ap gun skill

[balmy wharf]

I meant 3 star BB enemies on 15-3. they kick my …. In. The first boss mode is easy mode comparatively

[dreamy blade]

so similar to nep gun?

[hollow gust]

BB nodes is what you heal from

[stark quiver]

is it blocking the path to the super carriers?

[balmy wharf]

So the Super carrier DOES result in more planes being thrown at me in other fights?

[viscid swift]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

prob better

[hollow gust]

Also you know there are skills to move fleets around In w15 eh?

[balmy wharf]

No, but it still terrorizes me whenever I clicked on it lol

[balmy wharf]

Yeah I do, I use it to line up the air strike skill for maximum effect

[viscid swift]

I'm pretty sure that doesn't work against the Super CV nodes

[balmy wharf]

idk, but I can still hit 4-5 ships rather than 3 if I use the move thingy before an air strike

[sweet delta]

nep < donskoi < felix < ply as far as AP vanguard CL guns go

[balmy wharf]

Does sub oxygen reset between every battle? Or is it a full 15-3 run total oxygen counter, rather than an individual battle counter?

[viscid swift]

Oxy resets after each battle

[dreamy blade]

worse than felix gun is crazy

[balmy wharf]

Then what’s the point of waiting to launch subs on mob fleet? If I launch them the second the battle starts (against non 3 star BB enemies), then the entire enemy fleet is wiped out within literally a second or two of the subs running out of oxygen and surfacing?

[stark quiver]

so they dont surface and die

[fair lance]

If they surface they'll take damage and maybe die

[viscid swift]

no, you run the risk of the subs surfacing before the battle ends and taking unecessary damage

they might even die

[cobalt rapids]

u shouldnt be using ur subs ammo on easy nodes
and they will run out of oxy before waves end on 3* nodes

[sweet delta]

if they don't surface, then i guess you're overpowered

[austere trail]

How can i make a good team

[stoic badge]

There is a type of mission in opsi for stars that asks you to "Perform Reconnaissance in anomalous zones X times". What is an "anomalous" zone?

[frail hamlet]

are any of the dossier rewards after the 5th copy at 25k points worth it?

it takes me 3 attempts/60 oil each time

[soft raft]

completely up to you

[robust nymph]

theres an event starting on the 17th?

[soft raft]

we would've gotten news of one by now if that were the case

For example, ship reveals usually would have came out by now

[robust nymph]

am i reading this wrong

[viscid swift]

event here means a series of missions to be completed over the course of 7 days basically

[soft raft]

oh that
that's a event for a free skin, not a actual event

[viscid swift]

One of these basically

[robust nymph]

ahn okie.. sadge i wanted content

[viscid swift]

just wait another week, Ryza collan rerun probably drops then

[runic cobalt]

Ryza collab rerun? just when i retired my lvl 120 ryza ships

[stark quiver]

What why

[runic cobalt]

Started playing at the time ryza collab was about to end so i couldn't get their special gear and aug

I thought they never gonna rerun it so decided to retire

[viscid swift]

They announced the rerun 2 months back almost now

[robust nymph]

we are at a point where endgame players retire 120 ships?

[jagged path]

Other than Uni, need a second one because my second fleet keep getting scrapped

[viscid swift]

You don't need a healer in the boss fleet

[sweet delta]

some do, some don't

[soft raft]

You dont need a heler in your second fleet, if you feel like you do, then that's a issue with your fleet as a whole

What does your second fleet look like?

[soft raft]

what content is this for?

[jagged path]

The main missions

[soft raft]

but where exactly?

like W13? W12?

[jagged path]

The main stages, to be more exact 14-2

[viscid swift]

yeah that fleet is garbage for 14-2

[soft raft]

that vanguard definetly doesnt have enough DPS

[viscid swift]

you don't need a healer, you need a better fleet comp

[jagged path]

Crap

[soft raft]

what is Juneau even doing there in the first place? Planes arent that much of a concern in W14

[viscid swift]

I'd reccomend giving that a read
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief

[jagged path]

So who should I be more worried about?

[velvet slate]

some people retire for dockspace sadly

[river junco]

Is the gear for PR8 pretty bad compared to existing equips except the new UR BB gun and the new sextuple AA gun (slightly faster fire rate to roomba)?

[viscid swift]

yes including the AA gun, 25 range kills it

[soft raft]

Damn even Leewu gun?
Looked like it would be a better Azuma gun, tho then again Azuma gun is barely used

[vocal sonnet]

Are coin fleets easier than recon/destroyer nodes in C15-4?

[viscid swift]

Gouden gun might be okay for light and heavu armor on Gouden herself but that's abou the extent of it

[soft raft]

Better than the other PR8 gold gear, I suppose

[stark quiver]

Yea lmfao
Free win and heal

[forest palm]

PR6 is still worse than PR8 that's for sure

[fiery pelican]

Which one to LB guys? Bottom ships are 3*

[viscid swift]

Got 4 UR bullins?

[dreamy blade]

does being at 120+ morale affect affinity gained too or only exp

[viscid swift]

just XP

[fiery pelican]

Not atm, once I get one more from pass

[inland shoal]

You can still get it from the current cruise pass? Just to be sure

[fiery pelican]

Yeah, I'm not lvl 100 on pass and I have 12k currency for bullins

[dusk dirge]

Anti heavy armor, which of these three should I pair with Implc. Shinano, Amagi II, Haku

[dreamy blade]

shinano amagicv

[stark quiver]

Shinano
Amagi

[stark quiver]

Only mvp affects affinity

[dreamy blade]

haku

[inland shoal]

Think I'd go with Fritz then

[inland shoal]

(And low morale ofc)

[dreamy blade]

yeah fritz looks good, you have enough BBs but not many CVs

[viscid swift]

Trafalgar then

[inland shoal]

If you have 12k special cores you can just go for Trafficgal + one of the others once you collect cruise pass

Which I'd think should be Fritz

[fiery pelican]

I mean I can get 4 bullins, I don't have any atm

Can only LB 1 UR

[inland shoal]

Oh that's how you meant it

I'd personally go for Fritz, but Traffic is great against the current META boss and you can MLB her rn instead of having to wait for cruise pass

[white agate]

who is traffic?

[viscid swift]

I would lean towards Trafalgar mainly because it looks like they're lacking planes to really make her shine

[dreamy blade]

what would the needed planes be in this context, 2x la-9?

[viscid swift]

La-9s, HVARs, SKyraider, etc

not to say she's bad without them but you're certainly gonna get a lot less value out of her if you don't have said planes to put on her

[fiery pelican]

Will check out

[stark quiver]

Without proper plane investment, a well built bb fleet would certainly do better
Due to they having easily accessible guns, mk6 is around 13% worse than mk7
And champs for heavy and med are easy to get

[turbid marsh]

Seems like I don’t have to make a lot of pr8 gun. Yall recommend going back to pr5/7 after 3?

[viscid swift]

Yes

I really can't think of a scenario where you need more than 3

[visual bane]

Is the carrier boss in last guild operation heavy armor? I was running sap gun and saw gray numbers

[muted crescent]

yo is someone on the Little Enty server? I need them to clear Kawakaze META for me 😭

[worldly pewter]

i always use haku don't worry

[worldly pewter]

do a better fleet and spend oil for it
if u can't 2 shot it then just pub and hope for the best from the others u don't have another choice but to wait or pay a heavy amount of each time

[stark quiver]

Send a request to world

[muted crescent]

I alr did

ok nvm they expire woops

bro 2 ppl simultaneously carried my ass 💀

thanks y'all, I needed it bad

[boreal merlin]

What is gear from PR8?

[turbid marsh]

i thought so too. oh well probably still gonna do q focused strat as well

[wet prairie]

Still no W16 yet?

[viscid swift]

Nope

[rain vine]

even more plane spam, the gimmick is that your game crashes

[soft raft]

• UR BB gun that's a marginally better Champagne Gun
• SR Torps that aren't magnetic so that's an automatic snooze (especially for people who run the game on auto)
• SR BB Gun that has Triple 460 levels of reload time so that's an automatic snooze
• SR CL Gun that certainly exists. Theoretically Donski would want it since she has a skill that requires a AP gun, but Plymouth Gun from PR5 is right there
• SR AA Gun that has 25 range which automatically kneecaps it against its competition
• SR CB gun that is a better Azuma gun and can be equipped by a couple of CAs that can equip some CB guns (Deutschland class, P Class, and Leewu)

[boreal merlin]

ty

[warped acorn]

what are those guns that it seems the bullet can only fire nearly straight

[opaque galleon]

Some of the German vanguard guns are this way, very little spread, if that’s what you were looking for

[warped acorn]

damn
it hurts man

[opaque galleon]

?

[warped acorn]

the bullet spread

[opaque galleon]

Eh, there are plenty of vanguard guns that have some spread but are still considered very good

It’s not the worst thing in the world, just don’t use stuff that has a bad firing pattern like the IJN 155mm

[warped acorn]

[stray cobalt]

Are the rainbow quintuple torps worth crafting in gear lab over the gold quads?

[sweet delta]

1 rainbow quint homing could be useful sometimes

[stray cobalt]

When?

[royal copper]

does someone have a list of all the healers in the game

[sweet delta]

staggering in mob, or reloading 3 times in 80s meta showdown for ships who don't have enough RLD for reloading quad mags 4 times

[opaque galleon]

Speaking of mags, wasn’t there some weird situation where the quad anti sub mags were bis against Rodney meta?

How rare is that specific situation?

[stark quiver]

Klaudia
Unicorn
Perseus
Ryuuhou
Zuihou
Houshou
Shouhou
Arizona
Volga
Aquila

Probably some I missed

[stark quiver]

I mean you could just run eld retro lol

[molten zinc]

it's better than normal IB quad mag in certain sittuation where you can make all of its torp hit the boss (or when you know wtf you're doing with it)

not for anti sub purpose since Rodney not even have sub

[stark quiver]

I didn’t even read Rodney 💀

[opaque galleon]

Yeah my understanding was that by sortieing your torpedo carry in the third slot, the preloads from those quad mags have a pretty good hit rate

[molten zinc]

it have a bit higher alpha dmg per torp but lower hit chance (geo hit) so it's sometime better if you know what you're doing

[warped acorn]

who do i use from the 2 fleet for meta, etc

[viscid swift]

what is etc here?

[warped acorn]

maybe monthly challenge

[worldly pewter]

lvl 15 meta fight is still early for u
the best that u can do is do as much as u can and put the fight for others mainly because of the vanguard line won't hold much and use lion + BZ

[stark quiver]

Go follow a guide for monthly challenge

[warped acorn]

alr

[warped acorn]

wheres the guide

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/challenge-mode/

[sleek spade]

hey guys who should I prioritize for new DR? RN CA girl or new KMS BB girl

[viscid swift]

For completing the Battleship

The CA is also Dutch by the way

[sleek spade]

hmmm maybe I should yoink KMS BB girl first. but KMS UR backline is alr very strong so Im not sure if she'll be helpful

[hybrid swift]

Hi guys I kinda started opsi should I clear other zone or stick to the chapter 3 zone

[sweet delta]

keep doing the campaign story

[hybrid swift]

ok thanks

[viscid swift]

she's the highest damage Battleship against heavy armor

and one of the fastest

[sleek spade]

nice

ok I'll get her then ty!
Btw, are any of the new PR 8 equipment any good?

[viscid swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWlZLu9VTaU

[sleek spade]

ty

[rapid summit]

Are sirens able to be obtained and used for your fleet?

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

no
tho that's something alot of people want so who knows

esp with the way the story is going lol

[slow fox]

Z52 buffed by Eldridge: ~185

[sleek spade]

wait how does that work

[iron blade]

Hey. This might be a dumb question, but I've never tested it out, so I thought I'd ask here.
If you have dupes of a ship, say Biszwei, can you put Biszwei on two different fleets and go on the different game modes? (I.e. Campaign, events, Opsi)

[slow fox]

Eldrige increases the eHP of her squad by 50%

[whole crypt]

you can use dupes in separate fleets on campaign or events but not OS

we don't recommend it of course

[iron blade]

Why is that?

[soft raft]

Simply put, it's a complete waste of resources

Especially for URs because UR Bullin income is pretty damn slow

[whole crypt]

every ship has a viable replacement or better than to waste resources or time for raising a dupe

[iron blade]

Makes sense.
Thanks for the answer and advice 😊

[sleek spade]

ah I see but that applies to anyone tho?

[slow fox]

-# mutsukiwow

[slow fox]

Yes. She makes a great buffer.

[sweet delta]

Is it possible for one hand of 5 projects to contain more than one 30 minute research?

[slow fox]

I once had two 30 minute gear researches in one hand

[viscid swift]

yes

[sweet delta]

One bird in my hand is better than two birds in mebot's hand

[stark quiver]

your hand is infused with bird?

[slow fox]

-# Suchiguma leaked Umikaze as secret PR8 6th ship

[storm olive]

Is it fine for jda to die in 15-4 3rd boss as long as the other 2 survive?

[viscid swift]

something I'd like to avoid if at all possible truth be told

[stark quiver]

i mean
you lose the chance to drop houston 2

xp , coins, etc

[storm olive]

It would need alot of resets

[stark quiver]

or you can improve your fleet/strategy

[storm olive]

I think I can improve fleets

[prisma torrent]

How do you unlock Dev level 10

[stark quiver]

did you read the fine text in the same place where you level up dev lvl

[forest palm]

Leveling a Research Ships' Dev Lv is tied to the Ships actual level

[zenith heron]

Ok dumb question but, Do you get rewards when you make a certain Hard Mode Level Safe or you only get rewards when you 3 star it?

[forest palm]

only star rewards

[prisma torrent]

Oh i thought that Dev lvl IS the ships level

[wind hazel]

dev level is the same as limit break

just with extra steps

[storm olive]

I switched from musashi to lion and heal Aquila to preload Aquila and cleared 20s faster so jda didn't die

[stark quiver]

you shouldnt be using jda in a mob fleet tbh, in 2025

[sweet delta]

So 172 more days until I can use jda in mob fleet

[carmine heath]

is next ur event unzen rerun or new ur

[azure cape]

Hopefully it’s a Montana-class, I really want her to come to this game

[opaque galleon]

How exactly does the two salvo capacity on some newer BBs work in terms of syncing and absolute cooldown?

Does it make it very important to have a very tight sync between BBs or is +- 0.5s acceptable?

[vale spindle]

the 2 salvo capacity means that the during the absolute cooldown delay, the next salvo is still reloading, effectively ignoring the abs cd

this means that unlike a normal bb who gets delayed a bb with extra salvo capacity will be able to consistently maintain their timings

so tldr you want the bbs to fire as close as possible still like normal yes, the extra salvo capacity just means that the bb with the extra capacity won't desync from the original sync

[opaque galleon]

Does this mean instead of the weird stagger between salvos, the extra salvo capacity BB simply loads their salvo while another salvo is being fired?

[vale spindle]

that is correct yes

u can't fire all 3 bbs at once though obviously

there is still a cooldown for the bb button press action itself

but yea the bbs with extra salvo capacity will not stagger due to this delay

[stark quiver]

can i grind +25 affinity on a ship in 40 minutes

[opaque galleon]

So I guess the follow up question is that biszwei and meck have nearly identical timings, but Lion is somewhat slower, I can’t imagine you’d gimp lion’s damage for the sake of syncing do you?

[vale spindle]

na lion has amazing main gun damage you don't wanna gimp it

you have to be careful with bisko zwei cause whilst lion and meck will launch at very consistent times no matter what, since bisko zwei doesn't have the extra capacity its very likely for her to get desynced in longer fights

[opaque galleon]

BB reload calculator puts Lion at +0.5s when everyone has meck gun, which seems like a lot

[vale spindle]

that sounds about right cause bisko zwei and meck have reload buffs

[opaque galleon]

Bisko has like 1 extra point of reload than meck conveniently so she should always fire first

[vale spindle]

na she won't after the first salvo cause meck simultaneous loads while she is firing while bisko zwei doesnt

which saves her 0.5s or something per reload i don't know the exact number off the top of my head

lion at 0.5s faster than the rest actually should be fine cause theres natural delay from bisko zwei and meck firing first

[opaque galleon]

Is it important that bisko fires first?

[vale spindle]

yes cause you want the grouping

[opaque galleon]

Yeah fair enough

[vale spindle]

in meta fights it should be fine though cause its only 4 salvos you should be able to maintain the sync for long enough

[sullen birch]

Good or should I do some swapping?

[opaque galleon]

The next fastest AP gun is the 410 prototype iirc, but you shouldn’t use that right?

[vale spindle]

you can make bisko zwei 0.5s faster than meck who is then 0.5s faster than lion and see how it goes
i am not sure if the bb reload calc accounts for the extra capacity you would need to ask mrlar

for fast ap guns its the most recent rainbow gun from pr8 or flandre gun

you should not consider anything else for these caliber of UR ships

[opaque galleon]

I mean I’d rather gimp bisko if I had to maintain a good sync

[vale spindle]

yes but also bisko zwei has good damage too don't discount the UR ships

[stark quiver]

whats this for

[opaque galleon]

But basically, using the same equipment, bisko will only fire first on the first salvo?

[storm olive]

That wasn't my mob fleet

[wind hazel]

aquila in boss fleet?

[tame jungle]

country girls make do

[stark quiver]

can you.... show your fleets

[nocturne horizon]

What do i do with this?

[tame jungle]

cherish

[nocturne horizon]

Ah i see, ok

[storm olive]

Currently this, lion is boss

[stark quiver]

how many battles does boss fleet do
i assume all 3?

[storm olive]

First and last

[stark quiver]

hmm it works then, as long as they dont perish

put lion's and raffy's AA in frontline
staag will suffice in the back, frontline will benefit a lot more

[sullen birch]

CV fleet,is their pesfic use for the Torp bomber

[stark quiver]

it seems like a anti heavy armor fleet, so run helldiver/tenrai on shinano
and adjust planes to sync

[sullen birch]

Ok

[wary skiff]

How does the ops damage boost work from +13? If my aa gun I’d +13, is it adding 3% to the aa guns damage only, or 3% to the character themselves?

[cobalt rapids]

to the character effective only on sirens from opsi up to the cap of 20%

[wary skiff]

Sweet ty

Don’t characters only have 5 slots tho? So 15%?

[cobalt rapids]

yes but siren killer from pr ships counts towards this cap

[wary skiff]

That was my next question ty.

[cobalt rapids]

also fyi its not worth planning ur +13s around it
those are mainly for the universal damage modifier
just consider this as a bonus when u gear ur ships in opsi

[wary skiff]

Yup I was gonna write if it’s worth putting all my 13s on non siren killers and only 2 pieces of 13s on the siren killers

Universal modifiers are the tiny stat increases?

[cobalt rapids]

auxes simply gain more stats
offensive gear like guns gain 18% more damage through the hidden coefficient whose numbers u can see on wiki
plane ordnance ( bombs/rockets/torps) simply gain 18% more dmg that u can also see ingame

at +13*

[wary skiff]

God damn 18% is a massive jump

[cobalt rapids]

yep that why its the primary factor for +13ing stuff

[humble iris]

Should I replace frits rumey for independence/enty in my team all are mlb

[cobalt rapids]

what team and what content
most of the team both of those are a downgrade to fritz but

[humble iris]

Story mode

[cobalt rapids]

what chapter

[humble iris]

as in chapt 12 onwards

[cobalt rapids]

then use the one thats not level 120 yet but the best is fritz

[humble iris]

Wb shimikaze and njs

[cobalt rapids]

when u reach ch 14/15 then ull need more specific teams but fritz and indep will be good

[humble iris]

I plan on investing in them both are just one limit break away from mlb

[cobalt rapids]

are they mlb ?
depends on ur team and dock rly
nj is a good option for campaign all around but u might have better
shima is good up to ch15 but by then she kinda falls off and replace by quite a few more options

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt invest in them at all tbh

[humble iris]

would shima be worse than kawakaze

[cobalt rapids]

no shes better but she eats ur bulins

[humble iris]

Does that mean I should invest or nah since u said she falls of after chp 15

[cobalt rapids]

nah, kawakaze is not hard to beat in the first place either

NJ is debatable but only if u dont have any other UR to invest into rn considering shes only 2 off mlb

[humble iris]

what about njs for richi is njs better

[cobalt rapids]

all UR BBs are better than all gold BBs

but its always a question of opp cost

[versed forum]

for opsi abyssal zone does one shotting it or getting s ratings affect the rng rewards?

[cobalt rapids]

no effect

[runic cobalt]

IndepenRetro good to use on opsi mob fleet for the 4% rld/avi buff for boss fleets?

[cobalt rapids]

indep retro is just good overall for campaign
good plane loadout strong slots and dmg, good buffs ( + xfleet ) and natural stagger

[versed forum]

so im just unlucky this month

[tropic tusk]

Anni is aug right?

Early mid or late? Or doesn't matter

Ok 3q emoji guy

[stark quiver]

mid august

[eternal basalt]

15 August to be precise

[sinful fern]

Are there any shipgirls worth getting right now?

[eternal basalt]

Unless you mean the real starter ships like Unicorn

[rapid summit]

For grinding commander exp and ship exp should I defeat every single escort on the stage or just defeat until the flagship spawns?

[tropic tusk]

Just loop X3 unless Ur stingy then do all escort n escape boss fight

[rapid summit]

Ok ty

[velvet slate]

why escape boss fight?

[wind hazel]

bad advice, that's why

[random summit]

I have 4 UR bullin, which one should mlb First?

[wind hazel]

what other UR do you have?

[velvet slate]

unzen will relatively soon have a rerun so u might get a copy or two of them through daily pulls during her event

[wind hazel]

should show all your URs otherwise hard to recommend

[random summit]

I have all with mlb

[wind hazel]

even kearsarge?

[random summit]

Yes

Except new DR ship

[wind hazel]

i'd do impla

[random summit]

Are implacable good for light armor?

[wind hazel]

she's good every armour, best support

[random summit]

I want yt2 but i only have 1 hvar

[wind hazel]

but there's also soyuz nakhimov pairing, so...

[random summit]

I use soyuz nakhimov and rumey for medium armor

[wind hazel]

ye they can compete at Light as well

and since you only have 1 hvar, yk2 become even less desirable

at this point maybe just keep the URin and see which is needed more in the future lol

[random summit]

But i need space for dock😅

[wind hazel]

personally i havent used my yk2 or implacable recently

[tropic tusk]

U shouldn't but he ask if it's possible

[velvet slate]

thats not what he asked tho, he asked if he should defeat all enemies or stop defeating mobs once the flagship spawns. That implies going after the boss not leaving the stage.....

[dull spire]

Recently got her. Is she good?

And also this one.

[tame jungle]

bulin is not for combat

[dull spire]

For what then?

[crimson glacier]

like i said its universal dupe

can limit break any gold unit

[velvet slate]

she's great because she saves you having to collect dupes of other ships

Rainbow ublins can act as dupes for UR ships

Gold Bulin acts as dupe for Sr ships

Purple bulin can act as a dupe for elite/rare (but u should use for elites) ships

[bitter crystal]

keep your first bulin

[tame jungle]

use*

[velvet slate]

bulins are one of the biggest reasons why AL is absolutely great compared to other gacha games, because you don't need to whale your life savings away to max out a ship

[dull spire]

What about second girl?

[dull spire]

.

[wind hazel]

painfully mediocre

[crimson glacier]

Back in the day she used to be one of the best if not the best dd tho

But yeah she isn't really made for current hardest content

[plain saffron]

Wait suzut bad now?

[crimson glacier]

id imagine she can do anything that isnt w15 or w14 without a lot of help

[wind hazel]

mediocre isn't bad

[whole crypt]

looks like ryza/yumia is coming this month, just like clockwork

[eternal basalt]

1 new event per month

[tropic tusk]

Well sorry I miss readed

[dapper hatch]

What's your prediction, is musashi gonna be in perma banner soon ?
Vanguard was added shortly after rerun

[whole crypt]

Soon™

should be before JP anniv this year but I don't remember the exact window

generally UR archives have been around 9-month-ish after reruns

[keen cove]

Asking for a friend.
Since "Rondo at Rainbow's End" event will be permanent soon, and all those skin will be permanently available right
so my question is, hipper's "Sunshine by the Hot Spring" skin was released on this event. does that meant it will be permanently available too? even tho the skin was never listed in the skin section in the wiki

[hollow gust]

Should be yes

Even if it isn't , just wait till November

[hoary basin]

how to do this can someone explain me?

[undone plover]

Finish any 12 research in the academy
And come back and click this

[hoary basin]

i did one but it still show zero

@leaden prism this one ?

[zenith heron]

Do Main/Backline Position Ships take priority on the Frog AA over the Vanguard?

[undone plover]

It needs to finish

[hoary basin]

okay thank you

[undone plover]

U should queue it

And pick 5 more researches

Utilize the research queue
U should have it running 24/7

[hoary basin]

ohh

[undone plover]

And change your focus to season 5 or 7-8
In the bottom right

And dont pick basic research again if u can
Actaully in your position I would cancel this and pick the golden left most research
Unless u need the coins

Try and pick D G and Q research only

Like the first letter of the research

[hoary basin]

oh ok ty noted

[undone plover]

[velvet slate]

also, you should use the queue function for research

[wind oxide]

Dude you tagged the wrong person lol

[sinful fern]

Im planning to use an oath ring. Is there anything i should know before i do it?

[worldly pewter]

+6% stats

[eternal basalt]

Technically not part of event

[sinful fern]

Uh am i advised to not use it in any case?

[worldly pewter]

it doesn't matter most of the time

[keen cove]

it shouldnt't be available then?

[wind oxide]

Maybe the fleet timing will desync that's why but it doesnt really matter if you're not looking to build a tight difference timing for boss fights or anything

[keen cove]

why specifically November?

[eternal basalt]

Nope

[keen cove]

aight thanks!

[eternal basalt]

Black Friday

[verbal plinth]

soul forming 30m worth right?

[eternal basalt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvygrOpXAAAdqqs.jpg These skin become perm

[keen cove]

Black friday? they tend to make these skin for temporiraly purchase?

Aight thanksss!

[wind oxide]

if you have more than 400 cubes

[keen cove]

What skins will be temporary available during black friday? do they have discount?

[boreal wagon]

they do not but in recent years buying enough skins during black friday gave a voucher that discounts purchases
(or straightup let u select a skin of your choice idr which)

[velvet slate]

last black friday i think had all the skin in the game available if i remember correctly

[keen cove]

Oh I see I see thanks for the info

[keen cove]

oooo that's pretty good! thank you

[boreal wagon]

its not literally all skins but all skins released before june of the same year that arent permanent yet (excluding collabs)

[undone plover]

If u are willing to spend at some point u can consider oathing for meta reasons
If u are f2p oath waifu
Some shipgirls have oath skins

[robust nymph]

what do i check/uncheck to have oil reduction but i dont want to have flagship immediately i need to destroy ships for 3rd star

[cobalt robin]

Turn clearing mode off

[robust nymph]

so oil cost reduction is there by default?

[split gazelle]

Yes

[sinful fern]

How do i check if they have one or not?

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Wedding

also there should be some upcoming oath skins on EN anni (August) and JP anni (September)

[sinful fern]

Are any of these skins l2d by any chance?

[warped acorn]

is u37 or u81 support?

[split gazelle]

what do you mean by support?

[warped acorn]

support other subs?

[split gazelle]

u-96 buffs other IB subs if that's what you mean

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[robust nymph]

is this gear good on zenker? she does a sort of barrage where she covers the entire screen in bullets but it looks like it does 0 dmg

[whole crypt]

fairly sure none of the oath skins are L2D

if you happen to buy a L2D skin for the ship though, particularly the newer ones, they'll show a ring if the ship is oathed

[hushed sorrel]

cool feature didnt know that

[whole crypt]

not sure how many older ones have it, off the top of my head it only really started being a thing in the past 2 or 3 years

[robust nymph]

is there any worth buying gun in the core shop that can replace this or this?

otherwise ill just buy independence i think

[cobalt robin]

Helldiver is only really beaten by ur planes

some golds but it's not worth crafting and upgrading

[robust nymph]

oh i see, is there no gold helldiver obtainable from boxes?

[cobalt robin]

There's no gold variant

[robust nymph]

so after i bought white and black bullets i can go for independence then

[split gazelle]

yeah

[cobalt robin]

Íf you have 2 of each

[robust nymph]

i also have 2 of these bought back in 2019 lol

[split gazelle]

you want 3 white shells

[robust nymph]

3-2

[cobalt robin]

That's good

[robust nymph]

also this or this on helena?

[nova burrow]

Witch augment is stronger btw? Atagos or takaos?
On paper taks seems better for mobbing but gurantied 2 waves of torps from ata seems pretty nuts...

[wind hazel]

atago one is a stronger boost on the ship, but both are mediocre in the end

[robust nymph]

also like, whats the general opinion about torps. cause from experience magnetic ones are way more consistent, but i have so many different ones between quint and quad and magn/not magnetic im lost

im trying to give sandy one of these but i dont know which one should i pick

[cobalt robin]

You have 3 mag torps there collecting dust

1 quin and 2 quads

Upgrade and use em

[cobalt robin]

2 collecting dust

[robust nymph]

one is on sirius, also yeah im exactly asking which one should i go for, cause i also have 3 quint non magnetic taking dust

oh so it just depends on auto/non auto playing

[cobalt robin]

Use all the mag torps

[split gazelle]

yes, or poverty options.

[zenith heron]

the Gold version of the Quint Magnetic is bait, so stick with the quads

[robust nymph]

is this one good or worse than gold quad magn

[zenith heron]

the only good Quint magnetic is the UR Version

[cobalt robin]

It's similar to the quad mag

[split gazelle]

that one is good, its also on the chart

[zenith heron]

Both are on the same place, they are just used for staggering torps such as in mob to not waste torps

[robust nymph]

oh saw that now, useful chart ty

[split gazelle]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/ good guide if you haven't checked it out already

[robust nymph]

now im curious where this one is from since i have 0

[cobalt robin]

It's from an event I think

[zenith heron]

One is from Rumey Event, and other from earlier 2024...

[rapid moth]

Obtained from
Welcome to Little Academy Milestone, Substellar Crepuscule Event Shop

[zenith heron]

making that 2 copies per player if updated

[eternal basalt]

It says RIGHT THERE...

[cobalt robin]

Some people are deaf

[signal leaf]

what does spread mean in guns?

like 6x6 for example

[crimson glacier]

how much the shells can spread away from the place you are aiming from

[signal leaf]

so 6x6 means uhhhh

a 6 by 6 square?

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt know, never saw it as important to know the details

[signal leaf]

fair enough

[slim dome]

Is U-552 any good? She's my only gold sub but also that ten second retreat sounds.... Bad

[wind hazel]

lower spread=more accurate

[wind hazel]

top tier in bossing, garbage in campaign

[slim dome]

why so good in bossing?

[crimson glacier]

probably the barrage spam with dmg amp

[muted crescent]

guys should I build Howe up for a boss fleet?

[autumn cedar]

is it worth it to spend Oil for farming T4 parts in Operation Siren?

[tropic tusk]

show ur box u might have other options, also for wt boss

[muted crescent]

I only was told to worry about 1 fleet, so for now this is it
I use Z23 instead of Helena for now

[signal leaf]

so how does spread work? if its a spread angle I know how it works but how does a number X another number work

[tropic tusk]

are u at w9 yet?

[muted crescent]

about to be

[tropic tusk]

HyperWiz

[hoary relic]

which i should +13 first, mk7 or mkII?

[balmy wharf]

Are there subs in 13-3? Or just planes?

[eternal basalt]

14-3 and 15-3 have subs, not 13-3

[signal leaf]

does anyone know what the hell this means

[wind hazel]

the gun spread

[signal leaf]

no no i mean i know its the gun spread

but like wtf is 17x17 im used to a angle

[wind hazel]

have you played battleship board game before? you know the matrix of it?

[signal leaf]

uhh no i know of battleship though

matrix? the tiles?

uh yeah i know the game and how it looks

[wind hazel]

this is an example of 3x3 spread

and this is 5x5

from observation, you can tell 3x3 is the better spread because it is more accurate

[signal leaf]

isnt that a 4x4

[hoary relic]

are there any ways to obtain kron's gun? no?

[signal leaf]

😭

[wind hazel]

😭

[signal leaf]

ohhh yeah okay thanksss

[hoary relic]

so i shouldnt +13 any champy gun for now right? getting meck gun then +13 is worthier?

[wind hazel]

should still +13 1 or 2 champy, because it's cheaper

[hoary relic]

so 2 only?

got enough plates for 2 rn

[wind hazel]

idk, not like champy has much use now

+13 when you need it, just keep them +10 for now

[hoary relic]

i dont plan to 1shot meta so ye maybe saving up my plates then

[crimson glacier]

i like how mori included JB guns spread too on the chart

[zenith heron]

Mecklenburg gun seems to be faster than the Champy gun, so does that mean it can be used too for timing purposes if Rld Tech not too high or can't do autoloader timing well?

[wind hazel]

yes, but most importantly it is stronger

[hoary relic]

i have enough plate for +13 for 1 more gun, which should i upgrade raff gun or mk7

[wind hazel]

mk7 has more use now

[hoary relic]

then mk7? i just +13 lion gun

[wind hazel]

also more use outside of meta i guess

[hoary relic]

maybe it can replace champy gun for med

[wind oxide]

Meck gun?
It's like 5% better on med and 14% better on heavy than champaign gun

[hoary relic]

im still working on pr5 for ply, i may not touch pr8 so soon

[hushed sorrel]

feel free to jump up and down in the pr. some say its better to research the higher ones first but i dont know about that

[wind oxide]

Get a la-9 first before touching PR8 first lol it's not a big/ game breaking upgrade anyway plus doesnt have catch up on proto shop
and champy gun still suffices any content we have till now

[hoary relic]

pretty sure i'd, 29/50 for la9

[signal leaf]

Okay The Prototype Twin 457mm has a 17x17 spread yet both of its shells always hti the same place

hmmm

or maybe the grid is just really small

[wind hazel]

i was just trying to illustriate what the spread do

[signal leaf]

ik i was just trying to say 17x17 but always hits the same place

so maybe grid smol

[wind hazel]

you can watch suchi's video for example of meck gun 17x17 spread

wait nvm that's meck's barrage lol

[boreal wagon]

keep in mind that meck also reduces her own spread

[hoary relic]

[wind oxide]

I think he's just talking bout the gun generally and not specifically equipped on meck

[boreal wagon]

luckily i was responding to mori

[wind hazel]

and luckily i also corrected myself

[boreal wagon]

[wind oxide]

Im so stupid bruhh

[versed forum]

who's better against light enemies nakh+rumey or amagi+shina?

[ashen berry]

what team for stage 14

[late flame]

you can* do /guide at #bot-spam and check

[whole vault]

What's new with today's update? Or was it just a bug fixing?

[hoary relic]

i got enough T3 reports right now, what should i craft?

[eternal basalt]

Kansas bug fix

[boreal wagon]

a bug fix that is actually another bug

[slim dome]

I have enough gold plates for one upgrade, so would white shell or black shell be better for +11?

[wind hazel]

keep them, ask when you can +13

[slim dome]

what's the answer then

also Sandy modernization almost complete

[cobalt robin]

just keep the plates, be stingy with em

[cobalt robin]

Retro?

[warped acorn]

proto bf109g good in pvp?

[late flame]

you can check #pvp pinned spreadsheet

[whole crypt]

#pvp but for a start carriers not in current pvp meta

[slim dome]

The modernization node, I need a few more golds to finish tac training

[hoary relic]

is it worthy to +13 10rai?

[turbid marsh]

i wouldn't say so but i did it anyways XD

[whole crypt]

not as a priority

[ivory pawn]

It’s not the highest priority for plane plates nor UR plates, but it is still the best Dive Bomber vs mobs/med/hvy.

[hoary relic]

then what should i do with my planes plate?

[whole crypt]

I'm not so sure about medium but dive bombers tend to get dropped or used as the "flex" slot when you need to adjust timing

[dusk maple]

they are, current best backline is lion/glorious meta/hiryuu retrofit

[whole crypt]

did they change it again

the tea party died?

[late flame]

lol pvp

[wind oxide]

huh? why hiryuu?

[dusk maple]

usable, not the best

[whole crypt]

to be fair using tea party myself it's fast, but it struggles against strong stall comps sometimes

[ivory pawn]

Look at plus13 in #bot-spam
It’s usually rocket fighters or converging torps.

[late flame]

same - also lacking arrays to 125 gloriaM and hiryuu anyway lol

[whole crypt]

is pvp guide updated with it yet

[late flame]

prelim tiering in progress (changelog)

[whole crypt]

I remember the first iteration was even more offensive and dropped I think Laffey II or some shit? that totally didn't work out against even semi-stalling

[late flame]

(was scrolling a bit)
#pvp message

[whole crypt]

ah well will wait for the update then

chips and arrays I have spare now

[pseudo hearth]

Actually, some Carriers are seemingly going to be meta again. Glorious META and Nakhi are seemingly good right now.

[whole crypt]

yes I can see from the past 15 lines of convo

[pseudo hearth]

Ah, sorry, I had that message ready to send when you originally commented, but I had to do something important, so it wasn't until just now I came back to press send.

[wind oxide]

Dont understand why nakhimov or hiryuu

[dusk maple]

big wyvern crash dmg, hiryuu 15s invincibility

[pseudo hearth]

For Glorious META, it's the damage reflect skill that makes her good in PvP.

[whole crypt]

any idea what the gear is

[dusk maple]

#pvp message cn is up-to-date

[zenith heron]

Hiryuu for stall, Nakhimov can sometimes nullify Lion's DoT, or so I have heard

[hoary relic]

ad1 skyraider and hvarcat are unobtainable unless they added to gear lab for now?

[wind oxide]

Lion's burn is special burn and nakhi's nullifying skill doesnt activate before her hp falls below 40% and it also doesnt deactivate a previoulsy active burn so how?

[hoary relic]

do we know when will an UR gear added to gear lab?

[tropic tusk]

u dont

[gilded knot]

What gears are worth crafting in series 7?

[hoary relic]

sounds like i need to wait in hopeless for ad1

[hoary relic]

la9

and black vit2

[gilded knot]

Does the black VIT2 perform better than the white? Also, which one's la9?

[hoary relic]

the black one is for bossing, the white is for mobbing but wyvern is better than it. La9 is the UR plane

[gilded knot]

Ohh UR, ok got it. Thanks!

[robust nymph]

is it ok to focus agir if im unlocking her and i have no prints of her? im 40% through 2.4mil combat xp data

[turbid marsh]

this one is just catch up, so feel free to do it

[robust nymph]

so research is 7 but prints are agir this way?

[turbid marsh]

sur

[rapid grail]

pvp mentioned

[tropic tusk]

this one just gives u some after u complet each research

it will give u total of 150 pritnts of her

[sharp comet]

will the old atelier collab rerun at the same time as the new one?

[velvet slate]

research will dictate which PR 3 of your 5 choices will be from, while selecting Agir will guarantee you Agir blueprints that are separate from the ones you get from research.

Say you have PR7 selected and Agir like in that picture and than you start doing a Napoli purple research.

You will get the normal napoli blueprints and separate to that you will also get 2 agir blueprints until you reach 150

each PR catchup tier will offer you 300 DR prints split 150 for each DR character and 300 PR prints which you are free to split however you please amongst the PR characters in that particular catch up tier.

Additionally getting 150 prints for agir and hakuryuu will not affect the other catchups, so you can do them all

[whole crypt]

yes but we don't have exact detail of how yet

[turbid marsh]

it looks to me that its going to be a 2 pool event, one for ryze one for yumia. but aint sur about the details yet, only speculations

[tropic tusk]

after i clear 15-3 3 times now i cant clear the 4th time wtf lol

[undone plover]

How did the doa collab rerun do it?

[whole crypt]

they said Ryza will be a light weight rerun but how light weight is anybody's guess since they had a special loot system

[ionic kraken]

Which ship would y’all prioritize from the ur exchange. Kronstadt or ulrich?

[whole crypt]

doa collab rerun didn't change the base stages

[velvet slate]

between these 2, Ulrich imo

[whole crypt]

both DOA and SSSS reruns used 2 separate build pools for rate up with old pool and new ships

[boreal wagon]

they also had no build tickets

[whole crypt]

if only for build wise Ryza/Yumia might be similar in format

but stages shrug

yeh but SSSS had a ship ticket for old pool

can't remember if DOA did

[boreal wagon]

it did too

chances are ryza rerun will too

[whole crypt]

Ryza will rerun

they already said it'll be a lightweight ryza rerun + yumia

[boreal wagon]

i meant that ryza rerun will likely also have that selector

[whole crypt]

well yeh if same build pool format probably a ticket for old ships

[boreal wagon]

the only real difference we have to the previous collab reruns is that the ships already have augments

[whole crypt]

yeh

[undone plover]

Lars what do u mean selector?

[boreal wagon]

doa and ssss had a special shop item that let you select any of the old ships for essentially free

[undone plover]

Only 1?

[boreal wagon]

yes

[wind oxide]

Holee mama lets goo

[boreal wagon]

but it didnt replace the drop ship also being in shop

[velvet slate]

DoA did nyotengu so dirty -_- (random rant)

[robust nymph]

xp bonus is 120+ morale?

[undone plover]

Yes
And S rank for battle

[robust nymph]

what does A rank also do? like if i clear hardmode flagship with A rank do i get less core?

[velvet slate]

u get the same amount of cores, but you get less XP

[boreal wagon]

you lose the guaranteed ship drop on boss nodes and on hard mode it reduces the retro prints you can get

i forgot what else it does besides exp

[spare harbor]

Which one for nj?

[undone plover]

And to clarify it doesnt mean guarenteed SR ship drop
For example u dont get guarenteed bunker hill in 13-4
It just means u get a ship which then could he bunker hill for example

[boreal wagon]

[wind oxide]

you mean the drop ship from shop is also available in the selector?

[boreal wagon]

no, the drop ship remains in the shop as normal
and the selector is also available

[wind oxide]

Roight

[boreal wagon]

i dont remember if it let you select the drop ship but even if it did thatd be a bit silly if you are missing the others

[wind oxide]

So we're getting both ryza and yumia together means tickets can be used on yumia banner too

[echo vector]

When will the ryza collab start ? Next monday ?

[gaunt cedar]

is it too much minmax to only lvl up ships when they're above 120 morale or just standard

[wind oxide]

There's gonna be a livestream on 21st and prob the next week after that

[boreal wagon]

we dont know how itll work all we know is that old collab reruns had 2 banners and no tickets at all

[wind oxide]

Ayoooooo too bad bruhhhhh

[boreal wagon]

(but they also ran for more than a week)
(they were basically old-style reruns)

[wind oxide]

i see

[echo vector]

Thanks

[velvet slate]

heavily depends on how much oil u have. If you have a fk ton of oil optimizing to only level ships that are at 120 morale is pointless. If you are having oil problems optimizing might be worth it but is likely going to get annoying

[verbal plinth]

I tend to do 3x 12-x every about 40 mins works out well

[vague igloo]

What are currently the best ships in the game except lion?

(i already got lion so that's why)

[velvet slate]

if you are asking about BBs than Alsace and Bismarck Zwei

[vague igloo]

so I can enhance my fleet for the future

[vague igloo]

what about the other ones

[velvet slate]

heavily depends on the content you are trying to do. Are you doing campaign?, is it for opsi? is it for meta bosses.

But tbh the only 2 pieces of content which require super optimization are meta bosses and arbiters if you want to 1 shot them.

If 1 shotting bosses is not your concern (and likely won't be for a while) the answers will be vastly different

[vague igloo]

yeah 1 shotting bosses

[velvet slate]

than it depends on the boss and the armor type of the boss

[hoary relic]

[vague igloo]

there are so many different fields the ships excel in

aren't there generalized options

[velvet slate]

that being said bismarck alsace + lion will 1 shot most meta bosse if you just change their weapon =))

[vague igloo]

Alright tyen

I take these 3 in mind

[soft raft]

*And max RLD & FP Fleet tech and oaths

Tho ngl just the blanket statement of "These URs can one-shot most METAs" is a bit misleading when every new META Fight is radically different

[paper sun]

*If your Vanguard live long enough

[velvet slate]

obviously, but that applies to any comp

[velvet slate]

he was looking for a general solution and i gave him one, but please feel free to give him a better team qualifies for what he asked

[soft raft]

You didnt even give him a full fleet, just the backline
and we dont even know what ships he has

[wind oxide]

He was asking the best ships in game generally not from what he has so

[velvet slate]

he was asked for it and didn't give further details, why are you taking offense on his behalf when he didn't proceed to show his deck even after being asked for it

[soft raft]

idk what you mean by taking offense for him, but usally how we do it here for fleet reccomendations is to ask them to post their dock

not just reccomending the strongest and assuming they have the ships (and/or tech) neccesary

[whole crypt]

21 is a Monday the event will probably start after maint on 24 @echo vector

[echo vector]

Thanks

[hoary relic]

which is better 155 kai or chappy gun?

[wind oxide]

thought it was friday

[soft raft]

155 Kai has longer reload time but it's easier to craft
overall they're both pretty much the same

[hoary relic]

so should i get chappy gun with coredata

i have some coredata that can be spent

[slim dome]

would it be better to grind 10-4 or 11-1 for XP? Both are safe

[tropic tusk]

11-1

x-1 is exp more x-4 is money more

[novel solstice]

Higher worlds give you more XP per oil.
Do a lower world if you really want a ship that drops there and can farm it while getting your XP, or if you want to add some weaker ships to level up that can't survive in the higher one.

[whole crypt]

11-1 has the higehst XP/oil, higher chapters than that is not higher XP/oil but usually 12 is easier to manage and also drops cog chips

[nova burrow]

Depending that i already asked a bit ago, is there a way to tell when armor+live or speed+dodge is more preferable

[soft raft]

DDs already have high EVA so it's often double toolbox or toolbox + SR HP Aux

For CA/CL/CB the most common setup is EVA aux + Toolbox but since the vanguard takes the most damage overall, the aux setup may/will vary depending on the META fight

[paper sun]

Are you asking about how to tell what ship is more tanky than other or what kind of auxes to use?

[nova burrow]

In what fight witch is tankier

Made the observation in meta fights that it can variate
So id like to know if there is a way to tell

[soft raft]

most of the time raw bulk tanks are better
tanks that rely on evasion to avoid taking damage arent as consistent

(There are some DDs that are quite tanky, but that's because they have high bulk on top of their base EVA being high, not becuase they rely on that EVA to dodge)

[nova burrow]

Like i think against rodney DDs/CLs got obliterated
But - and here my memory fails me a little - there where bosses were my 3 CBs just got wrecked while dds/cls barely got touched

[hollow gust]

If you give worse advice then why are you surprise you get called out ?

[warped acorn]

whats asmr

[soft raft]

that second one sounds like Arizona META which heavily punishes you for running the heavier hulltypes

CL and DD were better for that fight since they had high speed stat

[cobalt robin]

yes

[warped acorn]

[soft raft]

And I forgot what Rodney M was like but I think she was just a high vanguard pressure fight in general

[viscid swift]

she basically made it impossible to sync your main fleet

[viscid swift]

pulled out the torp memes strat for that one

[soft raft]

oh yeah that's right
actively punished you for syncing your backline

[warped acorn]

oh

[nova burrow]

Helena wasnt particular fun either if i remember correctly

[hollow gust]

Helena is flat stat check

Once more anti light stuff came out she is easy as fuck

[soft raft]

She's also like the 3rd oldest META fight so she's pretty easy compared to modern ones

[nova burrow]

Yeah, i meant back then

[eager mulch]

[onyx chasm]

Which of these are worth getting?

[tropic tusk]

none

the only good is entry which u already have

[cobalt robin]

Taihou cause waifu

[onyx chasm]

Alr got the real thing

[cobalt robin]

Even better

[tropic tusk]

how go get the kid version

[cobalt robin]

Lol

[wind hazel]

look into ship tech or faction tech

[tropic tusk]

wait nvm shes event only

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Taihou-chan

[onyx chasm]

Yh i would say hell nah but

[tropic tusk]

oh u do have her

[cobalt robin]

I thought that's why you said it bruh

who got an aug now, was it shoukaku or zui

[onyx chasm]

Couldn't you buy atago/takao somewhere in a shop or smth

[cobalt robin]

medal shop as well

But it rotates every month

[onyx chasm]

Ah

[celest spindle]

Help for 14-3 and 14-4

[tropic tusk]

after 6 fails finally rng win 1 more time

[cobalt robin]

You got this

[tropic tusk]

I think my life got shortened a few years just by watching the fight

[cerulean musk]

is there any expected events coming? or is it dead period for a week or so cos of pr8

[viscid swift]

Ryza collab next week most likely

[cerulean musk]

rerun or new

[soft raft]

Ryza collab rerun soon™

[viscid swift]

both

[cerulean musk]

i missed like 1 or 2 equips from the prev run

nice

[viscid swift]

new Yumina collab and Ryza rerunning at the same time

[soft raft]

Yunia would have 2 new ships like they did with the previous collab reruns right

[cobalt robin]

If you don't clear you're gay

[viscid swift]

not sure to be honest, I honestley have the feeling they're gonna try and get all 4 main female characters from that game in though

[bleak skiff]

I've got 2 ur bulins should I chuck them on my 3 star Unzen or save them?

[viscid swift]

save them until you max limit break a UR before even thinking of committing them

[hollow gust]

Also backline more important if you do

[bleak skiff]

How do I show my entire box? I need a bit of help making fleets since I got back after a long break

[cerulean musk]

how good is zeven

[turbid marsh]

screen shot the ur and ssrs i guess... gonna assume you have the good elites, and open a thread i guess

[turbid marsh]

dzeven? probably one of the best single aa, one of the best frontlines for w15, in my opinion.

[cerulean musk]

nice

was looking for good ships to level for gouden

[bleak skiff]

need help making fleets

[bleak skiff]

Thanks for that

[turbid marsh]

pretty sure you have a wide range for that no?

[white flame]

i am a returning player, is there a link for a general guide? like research, gear, and priority

[turbid marsh]

its kms + italians

[gilded knot]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/

[cerulean musk]

anything better

[turbid marsh]

ah no z52

[cerulean musk]

already maxed

actually the list isnt as big as i thought, have some 120s

[turbid marsh]

46 z1 gouden sounds good enough for 12-4

after you get golden to 105 or 110 can even go to 15-1, should be good enough for that

[undone tundra]

[cerulean musk]

z1 actually good?

[undone tundra]

15-1 need a very strong main fleet right?

[cerulean musk]

or she the best among these choices?

[undone tundra]

no , not that good

[cerulean musk]

yea i wanted to level some actually good ships so i got more choices in the future

[soft raft]

only in a Z class meme fleet

[turbid marsh]

z1 is decent, and you probably never going to use any of those gold ships tbh

[turbid marsh]

that is in here

[cerulean musk]

yea or the 120s are fine as well, i just havent used chips on them

[turbid marsh]

THOUGH felix is actually very good as a gold dd

[cerulean musk]

they didnt show up cos i filtered by not max

any info on roon augment?

[turbid marsh]

i mean you gonna hit em all 120 anyways, so doesn't really matter. you can also go search on the fleet tech those ships have. also roon aug very stronk, big improvement.

[cerulean musk]

no im just levelling to unlock gouden

[soft raft]

it's been out for quite a while

[cerulean musk]

i usually try to unlock all the pr ships at once

[turbid marsh]

yeah then it really shouldn't matter. felix zeven z46 or something, should be good enough.

[bleak skiff]

is there a pc client for al?

[soft raft]

There's no offical PC client for this game
however you can run the game on most emulators

[bleak skiff]

is there any youd recommend

[soft raft]

Mumu is what I use
tho there's also LDPlayer and Bluestacks

[cobalt robin]

BlueStacks is meh, try mumu, memu and ldplayer. Just pick one you like the most

[novel solstice]

Bluestacks used to work great, but recently it's gotten really prone to crashing.

[signal leaf]

Can anyone explain how extra capacity for a battleship works? normally when you fire, you have to wait for the ship to finish firing her salvo before letting the next BB shoot its guns, but if the first one shoots with another one in storage, will the salvo recharge when the other BB finishes firing?

[quartz breach]

Level 125 ships can still contribute EXP towards PR ships right?

[nova halo]

yup

damn i keep encountering the freeze bug

How i can fix this bug

[undone tundra]

yes

[civic crag]

is the pr8 german ship any good

[undone tundra]

good in against heavy armor enemy

[signal leaf]

extremely good for heavy armor enemies

[civic crag]

yay baddie is meta peak

[undone tundra]

slightly below lion without teammates buff

[viscid swift]

BBs can't start loading their next salvo until they fire off their shot unless they have the +1 capacity

[civic crag]

wait i meant the CA

[undone tundra]

?

[civic crag]

is the CA not german like i can use german ships for its pr exp

[cobalt robin]

Bbs with extra salvo already start their reload during the absolute cooldown delay

[undone tundra]

oh that one not really strong

[signal leaf]

So if I have a BB with +1 capacity, she fires, her next salvo is already loaded because she had a extra one? so it just needed to be prepared right

[viscid swift]

so lets say you have 3 BBs reload at the exact same time
the last Battleship to fire will have their salvo effectively artificially delayed by 2 seconds because they have to wait for the first 2 BBs to fire off their salvos

[undone tundra]

similar to bayard in pr7

in terms of dps

[viscid swift]

no, as soon as her first salvo is loadoed, she can immediately start loading her 2nd shot without having to fire her first shot off

[undone tundra]

no

[boreal wagon]

it works pretty much identical to how hangar capacity of cv's work for the most part

[viscid swift]

she's dutch

[signal leaf]

ohhhh

[undone tundra]

only the bb who have +1 capacity herself can reload during firing

[cobalt robin]

yah

[viscid swift]

anyway, Gouden Leeuw is an interesting ship

[undone tundra]

her other teammates have to wait her finish firing to start fire and reload

[viscid swift]

you're basically looking at a Guam sidegrade

[undone tundra]

can be expected to be one of the best in 16capter i guess

[cobalt robin]

what do you mean by interesting

[viscid swift]

very good AA, not quite as tanky but higher damage and some utility with a heal

[cobalt robin]

Hm

[viscid swift]

oh and her airstrike can jam BB salvos

[undone tundra]

i think more like a mixing of Guam and Brest

[viscid swift]

which is fun/s

[undone tundra]

that not a good news actually

[viscid swift]

she's kind of redundant for the moment though with so many good AA ships in the game currently

[wind hazel]

worst of all she has bad tech

[undone tundra]

yup, but currently highest contribution in terms of AA rdps gotta mean sth
~~lets see what is waiting us in chapter16 ~~

[viscid swift]

she literally doesn't though, Guam's still higher if only just

[signal leaf]

So uh let me get this right, 1st BB shoots (Universal delay) 2nd BB with +1 capacity Shoots (Universal delay but loading her extra shot) 3rd BB shoots (Finish)

[hybrid forge]

I'm at max gold. I need to burn some to farm more. I bought out the shop. What now?

[turbid marsh]

i mean she is more equiped for w15 mob, or mobbing in general including mob, those oranges kinda good

[viscid swift]

something like that yes

[turbid marsh]

cats, equip, aug.

[viscid swift]

you could always take a research, terminate it, repeat a few times

[undone tundra]

just count AA dps is below De Zeven Provinciën

[signal leaf]

ah okay thanks, i thought bbs with +1 capacity can gather two salvos and fire them one off another

[viscid swift]

no, it's like CV Hangar capacity +1

[hybrid forge]

is thyere any way to destroy augs btw?

[soft raft]

feed them to other augs like you would do with meowfficers