gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

i mean vanguard in the bb fleet, like what you have right now

dont use musashi, use vanguard. keep at it

... or you're asking the frontline vanguard

I HATE THE NAMES IN THIS GAME

[warped acorn]

fair

[wind oxide]

Yea i think he means vanguard vanguard not vanguard vanguard

[warped acorn]

[wind hazel]

this is what i use, pretty braindead. there are other variations out there

[stark quiver]

guam? really?

[wind hazel]

the rest stuck in bb fleet

[stark quiver]

what armor are they fighting

[wind hazel]

none, they on bench this month

maybe benched too next month, im trying lion

[stark quiver]

maybe my vanguard isnt much better

[wind hazel]

1strike bozo

[stark quiver]

who said it was one strike

[wind hazel]

how many

[stark quiver]

1

[wind hazel]

[stark quiver]

i need a new fleet, time to cook

[wind hazel]

5 ships 1 strike

[stark quiver]

how much more damage do i get from oathing enty

[wind hazel]

at least 2

[stark quiver]

welp i know who im oathing next

[wind hazel]

ranger

[stark quiver]

already done

[sweet delta]

holy shit massive augment bugs in the game for years

Hood's augment increases her secondary efficiency by 3%, not 30%

[stark quiver]

💀

[wind hazel]

Hood at w11: 💀

[atomic abyss]

that would explain a lot

[stark quiver]

hood at w14: 💀

[wind hazel]

nah we can use this to revive the narrative about Hood vs Tirpitz

[sweet delta]

do you have a hotline to the devs, i can cook up a list of all broken efficiency skills

such a list would include Centaur

who gets 1% FT and TB eff, not 10%

[atomic abyss]

is this all servers or just scuffed EN

[sweet delta]

CN and EN at least

[vale spindle]

the game displays efficiency increases on the equip screen now, does that account for augments and if so what does that say

[stark quiver]

when does amity return
and will she be in gacha pool when she does

[soft raft]

What

Oh the pirate ship

[vale spindle]

she was released during tempesta 2 right

[stark quiver]

yeh

wasnt able to get her because of reasons

[soft raft]

The ships from tempesta 2 reran last Halloween but the event stages themselves didn't so who knows if it'll actually get its own proper rerun

[wind oxide]

But she was in the event shop

[stark quiver]

you are correct, she was indeed in event shop

[soft raft]

That doesn't guarantee that some people would have the time to grind the pts

[wind hazel]

please dont rerun so that alpha can't use sub debuff

[soft raft]

I remember multiple cases of people not buying Kron gun and then asking "tf do I use for her NP gear req"

[wind oxide]

Nvm

[sullen birch]

Same
Vanguard will stay their
Mushi Will be in the mob fleet
The vanguard for the fleet that use Soyuz and nakh

[sullen birch]

Huh ?
Wait
Does oathing do something to ships like stat wise

[atomic abyss]

yes

from 101-199 affection you get another 3% stat buff

[stark quiver]

x1.12% total

[atomic abyss]

and 200 you get another 3%

so instead of the usual 6% from 100, you get 12%

[vale spindle]

oath is 3% and 200 affinity is another 3% all stat buff

[sullen birch]

Huh

[atomic abyss]

all ships at 100/love status get 6% stat bonus

this is written in game

[vale spindle]

100 affinity no oath is a 6% all star buff base so oath 200 affinity is +6% more on top of that yes

[soft raft]

Note that this stat boost is not really relevant enough to justify tactical oathing if you're a F2P

[sullen birch]

I think I have just one rig
Because I used one on this ship

It was really old choice
I did it for mission

Now
I only have one ring

[wind hazel]

become the new Sauron

[sullen birch]

What does that mean ?

[wind hazel]

nothing

[sullen birch]

Explain it
Now

@wind hazel I will send you to Brazil of you don't explain
If you can't here
DM then

[wind oxide]

That's nice

[sullen birch]

Yooo
Edward kenway
I'm huge fan man

[wind oxide]

--> #al-general

[sullen birch]

Ok

@wind hazel I might give my last ring to soyuz

[soft raft]

Just move to #al-general already jeez

[sullen birch]

Is their other ways to get rings

[atomic abyss]

card

[verbal plinth]

one every year for anni

if i remember right

[sullen birch]

Damn
Looks like I will have a hard time to choice which one gets the ring

[tough wadi]

A bit offtopic question, but . How often something suggested from Trello gets added into game?

[robust nymph]

is there any sr eagle union ship in medal shop?

[fair lance]

Enterprise, Allen summers, San Diego I believe

[wind hazel]

a lot others

a few other BB, baltimore, etc

[fair lance]

Right I forgot washington and north caorlina Massachusetts

[tawdry halo]

Is +10 BTD-1 any good against +10 Helldiver? (For Enty)

[fair lance]

among a couple more I think

[wind hazel]

no, it's crap

[agile sky]

out of curiosity, have most of the serious players here already maxed out the PR7 series ships or not yet? Also if yes, did u us gen BP to do it or nah?

[wind hazel]

only upgrade you will be replacing helldiver is a tenrai

[tawdry halo]

Ight

[robust nymph]

here right?

[wind hazel]

you are asking this more than half a year too late 😭

[fair lance]

That's merit shop not medal shop

[wind hazel]

i used blanks for nakhimov and that's it

[sacred reef]

Is this a good cat?

[robust nymph]

i always get confused yeah i meant merit

[wind hazel]

yeah it's pretty great

[fair lance]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Merit_Shop

[agile sky]

oh wow, okay guess im just that slow lmao. Im like lvl 23 on the two Ultra Rares but i thought i was making decent pace...guess not lol

[wind hazel]

4-6months is the average to finish the entire season, if you play daily

[agile sky]

again though, do most ppl usually use general BP to finish off or do they do it naturally through research?

[wind hazel]

blanks are meant to be used

[agile sky]

fair enough.

Another question. When yall are exp farming to unlock PR ships, if its main fleet do you still keep a healer like uni or perseus or do you just run all 3 of the needed requirement?

[wind hazel]

dont think most touch the PR blanks though, as most PR ships are not replacing our ships

no, just 3 of the required ships

[fair lance]

I just farm 12-4 without a healer.

Though I use cross fleet from boss fleet.

[robust nymph]

kawakaze in the best ship in terms of how good it is in there it seems?

[wind hazel]

while she is good, there are also a lot of other options than buying and raising kwkz

[robust nymph]

oh well i was excluding in my mind ships i already have like eldridge etc.. considering also albacore for the tech though, id like to raise kears after agir

[wind hazel]

none of the ships from merit shops are great for fleet building purposes

they are mainly just for their tech or collection

[verbal plinth]

eldridge is nice to get tho if the rerun for her retro is coming back

[wind hazel]

he already has it....

[verbal plinth]

ohh i didnt see it

[lethal spire]

is there any tier list for the new research ship?

[cobalt rapids]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[fair lance]

I doubt I think only mecklenburg has been on chatgpt's one but no one has gotten hands on testing with them yet.

[sweet delta]

Last I checked, the end game tier list has all but gouden leeuw

[sweet delta]

Does chatgpt's tier list have Yamato?

[fair lance]

I meant mebot lol

[cobalt rapids]

mebot has a tier list

[wind hazel]

tieHPr list

[fair lance]

I thought that's who made it lol who makes the tier list then? lol 🤦‍♂️

[cobalt rapids]

the end game one ? the porple name above

[tawdry halo]

Hi, what's the best non-mag torp

I dont seem to see it anywhere except for that best manual

[tawdry halo]

May I have the rest of the guides like this one

Gonna gatekeep for my future usage

[split gazelle]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/

This is for pretty much all weapons, the image you used is purely weapons made from Gear Lab only

[tawdry halo]

Tysm

[wind oxide]

Guys i been noticing on pvp that zwei doesnt die from lion's burn even when she's on 1% hp, she recieves 0 damage from the burn as long as geryon is active or maybe some other reason but idk why

[crisp raven]

iirc, no ship can die in pvp from any kind of dot damage. has to be direct damage. but id ask in #pvp to confirm.

[wind oxide]

i feel very stupid bruhhh

[clear harbor]

I haven't really been touching augments. Should I craft a few purples that I can share, then a few uniques for my better ships?

[cobalt rapids]

no, uniques take priority
purple augs is the last thing u do when u can comf afford to +10 all ur equipped gears
check here for whats worth https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[clear harbor]

This is perfect, thanks.

[umbral girder]

is there new equip quick review

[gilded knot]

Which would be better for general use for my BB?

[narrow kiln]

I have an interesting question about the Bismarck Zwei (used her for a while)...
Greyron uses its own guns, or secondary guns of the Bismarck Zwei?

[kind quest]

guys I just dev 30ed agir, but fate sim doesn’t show up, why is that so?

[split gazelle]

agir doesn't have fate sim yet

[gilded knot]

Not yet

[kind quest]

ohh I see

thank you!

[zenith heron]

1st is good general use for mobbing due to fast reload with decent damage... the other is good for bossing, especially against Medium Armor and Decent against Heavy Armor

If you have something like a Purple Rarity Triple 406mm Mk6, that can be used for general use (better yet if you have the UR MK 7 or the UR Prototype mk II

[gilded knot]

Oh yeah that much I do understand, I think I phrased my question wrongly. What I meant was can the Champy Gun cheese through light armor and perform on par with the Twin 410

[zenith heron]

no, the armor mod on the Champy gun isn't enough for it to do much damage against Light ...

[gilded knot]

Aye got it, thanks!

[robust nymph]

by focusing research 7 will you only find prints for ships and gear related to that research? so by focusing a certain one you are able to find only certain gear prints? or is the pool of gear prints the same regardless of the research focus?

[cobalt robin]

how does warspite retro + augment compare against other ur bbs

[cobalt robin]

pr7 will give you gear and ship prints from that series plus catch up prints for the ship you have selected

[zenith heron]

peeps here say that she is now considered a Solid UR BB due to her augment, but still not enough to get herself to the top UR BBs

[gilded knot]

What are the top spot BBs now?

[cobalt robin]

lion, zwei soyuz probably

[wind hazel]

lion alsace zwei soyuz

[gilded knot]

Sad

[wind hazel]

musashi still good for heavy frfr

[gilded knot]

I came back to the game a day after Lion even ended

[zenith heron]

Lion, Bizwei, Alsace, Soyuz. Mecklenburg is on the works but she might be the strongest AP BB Ship

[gilded knot]

Still my go to

[cobalt robin]

nj the best ur bb for sure

[zenith heron]

Still better for Mobbing at least

[cobalt robin]

can I use fdg dev 15 for opsi bb fleet or wait til dev 30

[gilded knot]

30

[cobalt robin]

😔

[gilded knot]

How does UVH and FDJ compare to the current BBs?

[wind hazel]

lower end

[gilded knot]

Oh my poor heart

[tawdry halo]

Is this a good Sandy chat

[wind hazel]

no

[robust nymph]

so if i have 14/15 prints for a certain gear but i’m focusing an other research ill never find the last piece?

[cobalt robin]

Depends which gear, some gears are multiple series

[robust nymph]

is there a way to know in game or you have to find the info somewhere else

[tawdry halo]

Even as a bosser AA-specialist?

[wind hazel]

aa gun can change

[cobalt robin]

Just click on the research or check wiki

[robust nymph]

the pool differs depending on the letter of the research as well?

so it depends on both the focus pr and the letter?

[cobalt robin]

No

Just the focus

[robust nymph]

oh okay thanks, that was quite confusing

[wind hazel]

missing pr8, check ingame

what are you missing anyway

[robust nymph]

like these, rn im pr7 focus

these too but i think these were dropping from there

[robust nymph]

oh well it helps

[balmy wharf]

What’s the command for the W13 hard mode guide?

[wind hazel]

there's none

[slow fox]

/w13hm

mutsukistare

[cobalt robin]

[wind hazel]

triple CV your mob, use good AA ships, that's about it

[balmy wharf]

Ok thanks

What about W14 normal mode then?

[wind hazel]

check suchi's site, under /guide

w15 challengemode included, and other stuff

[tawdry halo]

Which one is better chat?

Torp aux or blue eva aux

[crimson glacier]

torp is useless

[hollow gust]

Why craft the pvp torp

[tawdry halo]

No I didnt craft it

The torp aux dropped from tech box

[woven star]

He meant enchant

[wind hazel]

i thought i already linked you the gear loadout

[wind hazel]

refer back to this

[tawdry halo]

Yes I know, I'm asking which aux is better for my Sandy's situation

[woven star]

Anyway this torp bad for auto mobing

[wind hazel]

the one that you see on my picture is better

[crimson glacier]

torp auxes are basically useless 99% of the time

[tawdry halo]

I thought you talked about torp aux

[crimson glacier]

for sandy 100% of the time

[tawdry halo]

And I crafted that one for manual

[gilded knot]

LMAO

[hollow gust]

With the resources you use to craft the white one , you can get a quad magnetic torp

[tawdry halo]

Are quad mag torps that good with their lower speed

[gilded knot]

Hey at least with torp aux you get to see something like this

[hollow gust]

[woven star]

If he want play manual let it be

[crimson glacier]

speed is useless stat for torp

[hollow gust]

Sandy is American her torp damage will always be ass no matter what you do to it

[tawdry halo]

She's ironically the only torp user in my boss fleet

[crimson glacier]

like i said just dont use any torp auxes

[wind hazel]

some people just dont wanna be helped

[hollow gust]

[woven star]

At least I know one usefulness for torp aux - Shima for crossfleet barrage

[crimson glacier]

thats useful? where

[tawdry halo]

I do have quad mag torps available though if that helps

Plenty of them from crates

[woven star]

More torp stats more barrage damage

[crimson glacier]

quad mag is a lot better but still doesnt make torp auxes any good

[robust nymph]

overkill for hard 11-1?

[crimson glacier]

might want to put the BB on the flag

[woven star]

But yeah she not participating in map fights by own

[gilded knot]

Sirius can tank?

[crimson glacier]

and fleet 2 vanguard looks kinda dead

and fleet 1 vanguard has like negative dmg

[tawdry halo]

Although I dont remember the quin 533 is for pvp, it's strictly manual torp

[woven star]

That's for pvp with black torp aux which make it homing for first strike

[tawdry halo]

Black torp aux? Type 95?

[hollow gust]

Akaga , what a waste of resources

[woven star]

Smth like that. Ask #pvp

[gilded knot]

Hey there was a time when the foxes were so good

[crimson glacier]

basically never

[verbal plinth]

the toolboxes was the reason people farmed it i think

[gilded knot]

[hollow gust]

Akaga was good when monarch was the best bb

[tawdry halo]

Also isnt this torp good for manual bossing

[crimson glacier]

its weaker than shimas ur torp but easier to use

[gilded knot]

I can't be the only one who farmed for the foxes, then the cranes, then the dragons...

[tawdry halo]

Just asking since I will keep that thing for later usage

[crimson glacier]

but its also useless for sandy, coz she aint dealing torp dmg even on manual

most ships just dont do torp dmg

[tawdry halo]

then what's the point of quad mag torp?

[crimson glacier]

just small spread dmg to weak enemies

[robust nymph]

trying to get kaga to 120..

[crimson glacier]

boss fleet practically gets no exp

could just level her on mob without akagi

[robust nymph]

then she does no damage right? but i guess its fine in the mob fleet replacing enty

also the only other tank i got is portland at 100 thats why im almost done researching agir

[crimson glacier]

she does no dmg anyway

even when paired foxes are just incredibly weak for todays standards

[vagrant tusk]

hey guys, i just got Jeanne d'Arc and Avrora
are they good?

[crimson glacier]

avrora is pretty useles,s but jda can be pretty good sometimes, she makes everyone in your frontline really tanky

[vagrant tusk]

oh, in that case should i replace my frontline with her?
right now my frontline are Z23, Cleopatra and Shimakaze, any recomandation?

[robust nymph]

wheres my best chance to start gathering these ships?

[paper sun]

War archives?

[robust nymph]

oh interesting, which one exactly?

[paper sun]

Northern Overture for northern ships. And check merit shop regularly.

[split gazelle]

you can get giulio from guild shop as well

[sinful escarp]

i dont really see places to farm them efficiently

[split gazelle]

its mostly shops, merit, guild, light build etc

[sinful escarp]

yeah, for sardines there is Aquilifer's Ballade for
Giuseppe Garibaldi

[worldly pewter]

that is why i never recommend people to jump
do some of the earlier pr ships

[paper sun]

I think only places to efficiently get ships is to wait for their faction events.

[split gazelle]

pretty much lol

[karmic kindle]

hey im just wondering is there any quick or effective ways to level up?

[sinful escarp]

tbh yeah, do the ones you can for now

[worldly pewter]

waiting for undefined time to start a ship is kinda not reliable

[sinful escarp]

keep running full fleets at the highest level map you can with no one dying

[karmic kindle]

oh ok thanks

[split gazelle]

tbh by the time you get to nakhi following the usual route you'd have done some faction events

[plain saffron]

new torp is 2x2?

[agile sky]

For season 7, im lvl 23 on the two ultra rares, the rest are maxed. At this point do i continue to research season 7 or move on now to 8?

[plain saffron]

i personally would finish a season before moving to another

[barren kettle]

Beginner question, (level 55) Best submarine to grab from the Guild shop?

[split gazelle]

You don't have to worry about using submarines until you're at ch14-15. With that being said, you can get the iron blood boats from guild shop purely for their faction tech

[barren kettle]

That do be a good point, need more iron blood ships

[split gazelle]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/#sub_fleet
if you're interested, but like I said don't worry about it yet.

[robust nymph]

im about to start chapter 13, anything i should worry about or is it similar to 12?

[soft raft]

W13 has alot more planes

[robust nymph]

so sandy in mob fleet

[honest stirrup]

don't neglect boss fleet's plane threat on 13-4

[robust nymph]

mm alright ill check what i got

[hollow gust]

Dont worry about mob AA, just run enough CVs and it solves itself. Just run Sandy boss

[royal copper]

quick question is there anything dif from 15-3 to 15-4? been putting ts off for too long

[hollow gust]

More fights, 3 bosses , but you do get ammo spot . Theoretically it's easier to 3 star

[royal copper]

3 bosses?? bruh

so it retreats twice?

[hollow gust]

Bosses are the easy part

[royal copper]

yea that is true the bosses are pre piss

[hollow gust]

The mob fleet heals off the boss

[royal copper]

wait what

also dont u do less damage running the same fleet against a boss

[hollow gust]

Most people run M B M so you can build your boss fleet weaker

[royal copper]

uh idk im jus running what i thinkll work rn im doing the first boss run rn ill see how it goes

[hollow gust]

/w15

[late flame]

(its part of /guide now)

[hollow gust]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[hollow gust]

It's such a nice command to

[royal copper]

lol wait boss fight free heals for mob

[gleaming valley]

Is dev 26 Plymouth good enough to use?

[hollow gust]

She doesn't have damage but that buff is there

[soft raft]

only for her utility
she's still missing a portion of her DPS prior to D30

[muted crescent]

so is it worth it for me to use these AP refills?

[wind hazel]

use them to clear hidden zones, stronghold, abyssals

-# or farm C1

[muted crescent]

what about using them to get as many zones cleared as possible?

[royal copper]

u can always buy more in shop

[muted crescent]

so I just use them, yes?

[royal copper]

when u run out yea but make sure u save enough for what mori said

[muted crescent]

fair

[woven star]

What's cd of Gouden Leeuw's bombing raid? Can't find

[royal copper]

very fast compared to gouden leeuw in wows i think it was like 15s or sum lemme check

10 secs i think

[woven star]

I didn't find it in description and thought at first that skill depends on her barrage but seems it's not

[royal copper]

i was counting from the character trial lmao

[wind hazel]

i counted 8s

[royal copper]

really?

[wind hazel]

8-10s

[royal copper]

yea something like that

[woven star]

Same. Feel like it's cb gun cd

[royal copper]

cant wait to use it to auto w15

[wind hazel]

yeah it's 8s

[royal copper]

dayum

[wind hazel]

in sim anyway. maybe different outside

[royal copper]

its like 40-50 something secs in wows

[woven star]

Will be interesting if depends on main gun cd. But it's only my guesses

[royal copper]

what the

[cobalt robin]

Something just got yeeted

[royal copper]

couldve sworn i saw something am i schizoing out

[cobalt robin]

Couldn't even read it properly

[cobalt robin]

Yea same lol

[boreal wagon]

its not a fixed number at all

the weapon has a rld like any normal equip that scales of off her rld

[royal copper]

lmao its like airstrike will come in around 2 business days time may vary

[boreal wagon]

it has a base reload time of 9.97s

[soft raft]

airstrike barrage on a CA?

[royal copper]

gouden leeuw

[boreal wagon]

technically its an entirely new thing but yes

its basically a ghost BB gun that fires a plane that then carpet bombs

[soft raft]

yes I know that we're talking about her

[soft raft]

that's crazy

[royal copper]

yea its dutch something that always has warships in wows

and since its a collab they brought it w her

[wind oxide]

Does Vittorio's instance of exhaust haze stack? as it deploys one every 0.5s for 3s

Ofc the new one

[soft raft]

nvm figured it out (There's two Vittorios)
I dont think it stacks, not at least with how the skill decription is written. Sounds more like near constant uptime

[sharp socket]

why is this fleet dying in 12-4 and how to fix

[soft raft]

did you get 12-4 to safe threat lvl first?
also have you considered using Unicorn

[woven star]

Use unicorn

[sharp socket]

im leveling tech

[split gazelle]

have you tried the same on 12-1?

[sharp socket]

12-1 lives

[soft raft]

is 12-4 at safe threat lvl

[split gazelle]

12-1 is more xp/oil efficient so might as well do that then

[sharp socket]

of course

[boreal wagon]

its the exact same effect so no

[sharp socket]

i need coins, as you can see im in debt

[split gazelle]

[wind oxide]

Then it just increases the duration

[muted crescent]

🧢

[wind oxide]

Kinda hard to understand

[sharp socket]

less than 300k coins = debt, cant pity a UR

[boreal wagon]

it deploys a new field so for 0.5s there is 2 fields meaning the field is effectively larger for 0.5s it does not extend the original one

[muted crescent]

😭

I'm on 3k coins, does that mean I am cooked asf or smth

[boreal wagon]

think of the exhaust smoke as leaving a trail of smoke in the path the ship takes that slowly fades away behind it

[wind oxide]

Ohhhhhh righttt

[boreal wagon]

if you have napoli you can already see how it works because its the exact same mechanic
(there are differences to their 2 effects but in terms of how the exhaust mechanic works its the same)

[soft raft]

Why did they do this type of kit on a hulltype that already has high base EVA lol

[agile patrol]

do i buy anything here
I'm exceptionally confused for now

[soft raft]

if it worked on other ships, sure but it only works on herself and it doesnt stack with other smokes

[split gazelle]

AP Box and the purple tokens

[soft raft]

buy as much as possible so the actually good stuff like UR gear lab mats and ordinance reports can rotate into the shop sooner

[woven star]

I'm usually using Unicorn for 12-4 tech leveling. Without her they died fast. Not sure but you'll can try to put as main tank 120-125 SunDiego if have her. But as far as I know you need or stable heal or good AA team in that case.

Oh btw check defense for circle. maybe can helps

That's my fleet for example right now

[royal copper]

why did w15-4 become infinetly easier the moment i changed to circular defense i did not know about the 20% aa buff

[fallen jay]

Should I use my data packs to level up my lowest level on my main/vanguard fleets or highest level for more strength on the strongest?

[warped acorn]

wait does that mean I should use that for w13

[fallen jay]

I assume the lowest level but I was wondering if the same principal of limit breaking applies to leveling

[royal copper]

def

w15 is like w13 but on crack

[warped acorn]

🤯 welp sucks to be me not knowing that

[royal copper]

yea im on the second last run of 15-4 when i found out

ive jus been running single like atk lmao

[warped acorn]

damn

[royal copper]

depends on ur ships

[fallen jay]

So do I level low level ship in my fleet? Being BRS at 72? Or save them?

She’s part of the main fleet for bossing.

[royal copper]

BRS?

[wind hazel]

dont put low level ship at boss fleet

[fallen jay]

Black Rock Shooter

[wind hazel]

level your low level ship in your mob fleet

[fallen jay]

Rascal helped make this fleet she’s one of the highest who’s also fully limitbroken

[royal copper]

r u clearing story or jus lvling

[fallen jay]

Trying to get to W12

[wind hazel]

show me what you're using right now, i suspect you're misunderstanding what cheeky told you

[fallen jay]

Also lowest level mob is Otto at 80

[royal copper]

yea drop ur stoofs and fleet

[royal copper]

send more

[wind hazel]

they look fine

zwei will carry dont worry about BRS, she will be leeching

[royal copper]

yea zwei carry lol

[royal copper]

its only w12 u can pop in one carry and lvl up others and still be fine

[fallen jay]

I mean I’m still trying to get to W12.

[wind hazel]

where are you right now?

[fallen jay]

10-1. I beat it but need to 100% to get 10-2 unlocked

[royal copper]

ok mlb ur trafalgar

[wind hazel]

switch zwei brs to mob with unicorn, level them up a bit

[royal copper]

dont lvl ur UR bulins rn u can do it when u have xtra

dam u hav her skin asw

wait if ur tryna clear story rn y u using lil agir

[muted crescent]

might as well ask: if I'm in an Abyssal zone in OpSi, and my fleet gets shredded twice, do I just wait for another Regroup & Rest

[warped acorn]

what to do

[royal copper]

only choice

[split gazelle]

why not?

[royal copper]

whatrs ur gears like rn

[warped acorn]

trash gears

[royal copper]

nah show gear like surely u have some ur and shi

[royal copper]

u have a whole nj

get her maxxed out asap even tho she still one of the best u have in ur dock

[split gazelle]

what

[royal copper]

oh

[fallen jay]

Switch her with Hood or Saratoga?

[royal copper]

wrong person

fair point u can use lil agir if u want

[wind hazel]

both

zwei brs unicorn in mob, level them two

[royal copper]

i think everyone just gets tenrais and wyverns first

dont trust me on that im not a good player lol

[warped acorn]

[soft raft]

Wyverns yes
Tenrais come a bit later

[royal copper]

at least i got one right

[agile patrol]

this it not someone who started AL yesterday is it

[fallen jay]

Hood and Saratoga are both in mob fleet. I meant who do I replace with Zwei?

[warped acorn]

cap it literally is...

[wind hazel]

SWAP HOOD AND SARATOGA WITH ZWEI AND BRS

[royal copper]

saratoga the goat tho

[wind hazel]

ZWEI, BRS, UNICORN IN MOB!!!

[warped acorn]

mori entered insane mode

[white musk]

"My gear is trash lolz"

[fallen jay]

Oh Black Rcok shooter… I moron sorry early morning

[wind hazel]

YES she's also lv110. put her to boss so that your lv90 can gain level in mob

[wind oxide]

Mori go berserk

[royal copper]

mori can u mori all over the place

[warped acorn]

facts

[wind hazel]

bro it's simple instructions 😭 i repeated like for the 3rd time now

[fallen jay]

Done.

Me brain smooth

[royal copper]

[wind hazel]

you also want to retrofit saratoga and give her augment if you haven't

[fallen jay]

Doing my best to was held back by lack of coincyesterday. Spent as much as I could trying to retrofit her but ran out

[royal copper]

have u collected coins in mail

[wind hazel]

when brs gain enough level, swap enterprise, even out the levels

[warped acorn]

how good is wyvern barely hear someone using it

[royal copper]

is brs that good

[wind hazel]

get everyone to ~100-110 for w12

[crimson glacier]

i feel like everyone is using wyverns

[wind hazel]

brs is ok

[white musk]

Brs isnt anything special
Hood tier but you get a free augment

[wind hazel]

pretty solid, free aug too

[warped acorn]

what...

feels like im missing something ig

[royal copper]

[crimson glacier]

wyvern is just really good for anything that isnt single target

[warped acorn]

ok nice i cant craft it rip

[royal copper]

what can u craft

[warped acorn]

checked
looks like nothing
time to keep farming opsi until 20 ur prints

[royal copper]

nah u should be able to with 12 of those

[warped acorn]

well the materials 😭

[royal copper]

oh...

[warped acorn]

what will it do (the range of its usage)

also it dont include siren tower?

[royal copper]

uh

[royal copper]

i think it jus buys everything from akashi

[paper sun]

If only...

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Strategic_Search_Settings

[wind oxide]

Then i'd have done only strategic searches and laze off on all opsi lol

[royal copper]

well then

[eager marsh]

how does volga's heal compared to ryuuhou's?

[tropic tusk]

better

[eager marsh]

I know what we're gonna do today ferb

[tropic tusk]

but uni is the best healer

[warped acorn]

well so guess that option is just decoration

[eager marsh]

yeah but uni is maxed, i'm just looking for reasonable sr ship to raise

[tropic tusk]

then i guess u can go for volga

[split gazelle]

or you could look into fleet tech like rld and stuff

[eager marsh]

how do you know which ship gives which tech?

[split gazelle]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker is one way to find out

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Level_120_Stat_Bonuses

[royal copper]

yo ts fire

yo is there a faster way to do this

[sullen dew]

For combat data collection missions for priority ships, does the xp collected by ships that have hit the maximum xp limit still count towards the goal?

[wind oxide]

Yes

[plain saffron]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[sullen dew]

I see. Thank you

[eager mulch]

[cobalt gate]

does the timer go down if i switch to a different ship?

[soft raft]

iirc no

[tropic tusk]

NO

[ashen moon]

is the wiki good?

[cobalt gate]

thanks

[fallen jay]

Wait does Enterprise only have one skill?

[soft raft]

This one? Yee
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki

[ashen moon]

Yeah that one

good to see we have a proper wiki unlike the Dark Souls Games (fextra bruh)

[stark quiver]

yea

[fallen jay]

Seriously? That’s it? There’s no way of unlocking more skills for her?

[stark quiver]

no

[soft raft]

it's a really cracked skill anyways since its damge potential theoretically can only go up as newer planes get added

it's the one reason why Enterprise is still as relevant as she is to this very day despite being a day 1 ship

[warped acorn]

damn

[fallen jay]

Do I spend exp packs to level up Enterpirsecthen?

I’ve collected 14 now but they’re all basic level

[tropic tusk]

u can only obtain basic the other one is from battle passs

[fallen jay]

Ok so I’m out of oil now. So should I spend time in Siren Ops?

[tropic tusk]

yes

[soft raft]

sure
or just go touch grass

[fallen jay]

Alright do I spend the purple stuff on tuning in the shop?

[tropic tusk]

?

[fallen jay]

The purple currency in siren ops. Should I be buying the tuning consumables?

Or do I buy the material boxes for the gear lab?

[tropic tusk]

how about use ur brain and take a photo lol

[turbid marsh]

was typing a paragraph on opsi and then i see that you aint clear first time yet. clear first time, grab the tuning then

[fallen jay]

So just keep stockpiling the purple currency?

[tropic tusk]

u do want to buy only gold and rainbow mostly

[stark quiver]

try to buy out shop so you can reroll for other items next time

[tropic tusk]

wait is that his first time? theres a timer

[fallen jay]

Ok I bought the gold box.

Yes I haven’t beaten siren ops before. I’m still fresh at it.

[boreal wagon]

players remain under the old opsi shop system until they finish chapter 4 and have had their first monthly reset

[tropic tusk]

oh

[fallen jay]

Ok new question should I be destroying all enemies in every zone of siren ops?

Or just searching for the boss and taking it down as quickly as possible?

[forest palm]

typically to clear most zones you need to, with Hidden and Strongholds being excluded

Hidden and Stronghold you can just do the minimum required of you to spawn the boss

[warped acorn]

how much % better is nj gun compare to 406mm mk6

[stark quiver]

around 13% according to my maffs

[paper sun]

It's including fp stat?

[warped acorn]

oh also would lion or bzwei fire the volley first if they have all same stuff?

[stark quiver]

idk

zwei apparently

[warped acorn]

oh damn
this going be a pain might gonna set bzwei to flag for traf buff

[split gazelle]

probably depends on the level and position they're in as well also tech

[forest palm]

tech wouldn't really change much...

[stark quiver]

max rld tech just makes them even further apart

[stark quiver]

for flag to override timing, their fire times have to be really close

[forest palm]

more like exact

[boreal wagon]

they dont really have to be exact due to how frame time works but they are so close you may as well call it exact

[split gazelle]

ah fair enough, it was something I came across but I suppose that's not always the case. my bad

[boreal wagon]

i mean, raff and lion just happen to have the same RLD

[hollow gust]

Lion can catch up , zwei doesn't have the mechanic

[boreal wagon]

not only can she catch up she can also much more easily overtake

[hollow gust]

If zwei is 2nd she is going to get bumped fast

[ripe coral]

wth is going on

[soft raft]

have you already tried force closing and relaunching the game yet?

[ripe coral]

it did help, but this bug still is weird

[soft raft]

maybe try repair assets

[plain saffron]

it just happends sometimes

[sinful escarp]

it happens when your phone/internet lags. so i dont think repairing assets will do anything

[fathom crag]

FGO rates were not being nice to me to I js started Azur lane. R there any guide for beginners

[wind hazel]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop

[turbid marsh]

well, welcome to rng heaven i guess.

[fathom crag]

What are the rates like

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Rates

[turbid marsh]

you get plenty of resources if you dont gamble that hard XD

[soft raft]

you also get at least 168 cubes per month which translates to 84 pulls on Event, Heavy, and Special banners and 168 pulls on the light banner

[plain saffron]

it's all good as long as you know how to manage your resources and play daily

[sinful escarp]

azur lane is the most forgiving gacha game i played. as long as you complete dailies and resource management that is

[stark quiver]

The rates are high enough that I don’t get a blood rush while gambling

[sinful escarp]

at the start there is the thrill. but as you play its more like repeating clicking the build button until you get the ship from the event

[fathom crag]

thats sm fire stuff

[atomic abyss]

As I've said many times

Azur Lane is a resource management game disguised as a gacha game

[sinful escarp]

the longer and more consistent you play the more you can afk

[plain saffron]

real, it doesn't even feel like gacha so that's why i hate the gacha

[fathom crag]

welp hopefully i enjoy the game

[elfin hollow]

Chat does hindenburg have the highest FP of all vanguard units

[hollow gust]

She should

[plain saffron]

yes

wait no

nvm yes

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships

i hate that they're separated

[hollow gust]

Heavy cruisers have the highest base fp stat for vanguard by far

Only need to search through that

[plain saffron]

no like collab research retro meta is in it's own table

[hollow gust]

They also scale off rarity, no one is close

[fallen jay]

Alright so I just unlocked the ability to deploy 4 fleets in Siren Ops

[empty bloom]

I’ve been playing this game for a while but mostly just logging in, doing part of the story that I can, pulling for characters and then logging off. I just figured out I could get Formidable for free like a couple days ago so now I actually want to play the game and just have no idea what I’m doing. Could anyone tell me which characters I have are worth building and which ones I have leveled that I should maybe stop using? Thank u

[severe tinsel]

Help, how do i prevent ambushes and encounter.... Its so annoying

[severe tinsel]

Unicorn and san diago, max limit break (mlb) and retrofit them ASAP. Unicorn best healer and sandy great overall

[fallen jay]

So for Siren Ops does it matter what the other two fleets are? If it does can I have some help building up said fleets?

[empty bloom]

What is retrofit?

[sweet delta]

ForMIDable is mid, but since you already invested in her, just keep using her for now

[severe tinsel]

Additional upgrade for some ship to up their rarity and stat, check the ship

[empty bloom]

Yeah fair I figure she might be since she’s like redeemable but yeah I just really like her

[empty bloom]

Okay thank you sm

[hushed sorrel]

you can sort "retrofit available" in the docks

[sweet delta]

1. Put your next 4 gold bulins into Admiral Zenker. You have 4 right now. Feed the level 55 bulin to Zenker too
2. LOCK your Aurora right now, do not scrap her in any circumstance
3. Use Zenker Unicorn Formidable Pompeo Otto Laffey
4. Do not split your resources and exp to a second fleet

Or maybe 2 bulins for Otto and 2 for Zenker just so Otto doesn't die. Usually it wouldn't be a good idea to split bulins to multiple ships

[stark quiver]

Higher recon value

[severe tinsel]

Yeah, do i need to put radar to all my mob vanguard fleet?

[stark quiver]

No

[plain saffron]

move cv and dd i guess

[stark quiver]

Increase eva or something

It takes the value of the fleet with the most recon
Not both fleets combined

[plain saffron]

also it only choose 1 fleet, the higher one

[fallen jay]

Ok I have 2 UR bulins. Should I spend those to bring Traflagar up by two stars or just save them?

[atomic abyss]

save

[soft raft]

it's either MLB or bust

[fallen jay]

Understood

[clear harbor]

I didn't understand why saving was good until I read a good explanation. Basically you don't want to half MLB a UR just to pull a better one later on.

[fallen jay]

What should I do to build the other two fleets in siren ops?

[clear harbor]

And getting to MLB has a significant impact on ship performance.

[fallen jay]

Now that I’ve unlocked 4 fleets for ops

[clear harbor]

I'm at the same point. My 3rd and 4th fleets aren't real.

They just have like, the minimum ships that I don't use and I still go with a mobbing fleet and a boss fleet and it's been fine.

There are few times where I've need all four for puzzles, but I've always had a choice of who I send in for actual combat.

Maybe that changes after a certain point in OpSi, though.

[gaunt cedar]

you only need one fleet

you can use 2nd for levelling in lower corrosion levels but for 5/6 one fleet is better if you're new

[fallen jay]

I don’t understand. Wouldn’t having more units to fight be beneficial since it doesn’t decrease oil or morale?

[split gazelle]

If you had enough units to make a good 2nd fleet yes. Which usually consists of triple bb / triple cv

[gaunt cedar]

opsi doesnt use morale or oil

[split gazelle]

You can use mobbing fleet + bossing fleet like you do in campaign for a start though

[fallen jay]

That’s what I mean.

[hollow gust]

Can new players build two good fleets though

[fallen jay]

I have been but they’ve been having more and more trouble

[onyx chasm]

If I'm trying to achieve MVP on the vanguard fleet do I want to remove Zwei's gun and replace it with smth else just remove her entirely?

[gaunt cedar]

i couldnt and still struggle with equipment for 2nd fleet

better to put every good equip you have on main fleet

[hollow gust]

What are you even farming for?

[onyx chasm]

Agir

[hollow gust]

no point trying to get vanguard mvp, absolute waste of time.just swap unicorn for another ship you need to level up; then farm 12-1 or 11-1

[onyx chasm]

I mean sure I guess but removing unicorn on a mob fleet is kinda stupid especially since I have them set to clear the entire sortie

[hollow gust]

[timid spire]

[tropic tusk]

[wind oxide]

Dude that fleet without unicorn is enough to sweep clear 12-1 ez

[hollow gust]

1. You dont need to clear everything with a single fleet. That fleet farms all of mob perfectly fine at lower cheaper levels
2. Let boss be handled by another fleet if that somehow loses in 11-1
3. All unicorn is doing is soaking valuable exp from another main fleet

[viscid swift]

Why are maxed ships even being used for this

Rigging the vanguard to get MvP isn't difficult, just takes a few factors and a little bit of cunning and ruthlessness

[lilac flame]

Where to get the retrofit thingys

[tropic tusk]

campain hard mode

[lilac flame]

Ok

[tropic tusk]

they are also at shop > medal and guild

[wind oxide]

Need some fritz loadout recommendations for campaign exp farming

[hollow gust]

Just use fighter tb

[wind oxide]

Ayee

[soft raft]

campaign hard mode
X-1 for DD
X-2 for CL/CA
X-3 for BB/BC
X-4 for CV/CVL

[hot tiger]

Any advice for 4-4 and moving forward

[verbal plinth]

Switch Portland with laffey

[viscid swift]

Read that
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop

[mint fox]

Where can I get t3 cruiser material? Need to retro helena

[stark quiver]

Hard mode chapter 3 and up
Specifically x-2 stages in hard mode
Guild shop

[mint fox]

Okay, thank you!

[mint fox]

Does auto search and clearing mode affect drop rate?

[sweet delta]

i recommend retrofitting unicorn and some others before Helena

Always keep clearing mode on, unless you need to fight mobs for the second star in hard mode

[mint fox]

Ive finushed retro'ing unicorn

And portland and warspite comes next after helena

[cobalt gate]

Anyone have the link for augment tier list

[undone plover]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules#s-tier-unique-augments

[undone plover]

warspite is a really expensive retrofit for a beginner
I would avoid it tbh until later

helena is a bit similar
u dont need to retrofit her until later as well
portland and unicorn is good tho
U can retrofit your starter DD after portland
Idk if u still need to do that for the rookie missions tbh so maybe check the rookie missions first

[wind hazel]

only 1 retro is needed, so kinda whatever

[gaunt cedar]

i thought warspite wasnt good ship? do you use her for fleet 3/4 in opsi if you dont have other ur bbs to fill spot??

[undone plover]

she is better now with augment
I think i saw some ppl say around NJ level maybe? not sure
she is not as useless as she used to be
she is still pretty expensive

[wind hazel]

probably can retro if you got the dd retroprints, i dont think they are used that much early game

[mint fox]

Okay, thanks@

[hollow gust]

Only expensive thing about warspite retro is the spec core. Rest just spend a bit of time to get

[mint fox]

Where can i get more of these mats? For crafting gear

[undone plover]

just doing operation siren
port shops, cat nodes, abyssals, arbiter

[foggy zodiac]

Anyone has a guide for newbie in here? Because I don't understand all the item in this game and how to make formation on my ship 🥲

[undone plover]

u shouldnt craft that gun btw
I havent seen it recommended by anyone

[cobalt gate]

thanks

[undone plover]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[cobalt gate]

most worth retrofit is always unicorn

[foggy zodiac]

Thnks!

[undone plover]

first link has newbie tips and general guides
if u want fleet building help u can post your dock in a thread and we can help u make a proper fleet

[cobalt robin]

Is it worth waiting 30 hours to do both of ägir's exp quests simultaneously or nah

[left cedar]

if u have time to grind heavy and do both faster than last mission of her be finished, its worth

[cobalt robin]

I'll wait then

[undone plover]

just to clear it up
u cant grind both parts together
u have to finish one before starting the other one
so I recommend u finish part 1 within the next 30 hours

[left cedar]

i ENed cuz i dint notice "simultaneously" but generally i do both in same day (of course not simultaneous)

[cobalt robin]

Oh sadge 😔

[undone plover]

tbh in ch12 with proper setup u will finish both parts very fast

[cobalt robin]

Yea I did it pretty quickly for fdg

[undone plover]

cdc grind sounds daunting to a lot of ppl but when u actually get the hang of it it is not the worst part

[cobalt robin]

Getting dev 30 gonna be the actual hell

[cobalt robin]

would w13 be better?

[undone plover]

not really
the xp gain is similar and it is a hardcr chapter to farm. U will need to bring unicorn to carry and she will steal xp

ch12 is your bread and butter for most farming

[cobalt robin]

Yea uni hogs exp and mvp

[undone plover]

get 12-1 to safe and ideally use 3 ironblood backline for part1
then 3 ironblood frontline for part 2

[left cedar]

XP per Oil is similar at end of day (comparations between 12-1 and 13-1)

cuz numbers are bigger but u will be in several problens like
u cant use same oil to Lvlup bad ships and get CDC XP ...

[undone plover]

and farm when morale is >120 so they get 20% xp boost

[cobalt robin]

yep

[crisp geode]

How to upgrade blue augments to purple?

[vale spindle]

level them like normal then once they +10 u can level them once more and they go to purple +0

then u can level to purple +10

so its a 3 step process there's no way to straight shot it

[worldly pewter]

for agir u have a catchup and a coining available for her so it isn't that bad compared to pr7 and 8

[crisp geode]

Okay, thanks

[cobalt robin]

It'll take a while cause I'm coining anchorage and fdg rn

[blazing pecan]

I have Unicorn in port and mid-retrofit, I just despise her personality and want to hold off on using her for as long as possible

Assuming I level everyone here up to the max, how far will this take me? World 8? Im following Samhearts advice in that im levelling up 1 fleet exclusively.

[dreamy blade]

Without unicorn probably around w8 yeah if not overleveled

[blazing pecan]

Once I get to world 9 ill add in the purple fella to fleet 2. Thank you!

[sweet delta]

Can you try Shouhou for healing?

The purple fella unicorn is only good for mob fleet, the one that fights all enemies but the boss when you start using 2 fleets

[blazing pecan]

I like the damage my backline is doing currently, between dive bombers and three barrages.

Is shouhou more boss oriented?

[sweet delta]

Unicorn is Shouhou pro plus

They are both mob fleet healers

[blazing pecan]

I see. As much as I love Lexington (i might oath her) I guess I will have to swap in Unicorn eventually

Unless Unicorn doesnt fit in this lineup?

[viscid swift]

Unicorn is a default for pretty much all mob fleets

Not using her may as well be griefing yourself

[blazing pecan]

Alrighty, I guess my question now is whether she fits into the fleet I have now, or the future second fleet

[sweet delta]

Unicorn fits into a fleet from chapter 1 to chapter 15

Whether you use 1 or 2 fleets, she is basically a best in slot

[blazing pecan]

I like the fleet the way it is now, ill be sure to stick Unicorn in fleet 2 then

Thanks for the clarifications

[viscid swift]

So long as that's the mob fleet it's fine

[cobalt robin]

What did uni do to bro 💔

[blazing pecan]

She called me big brother one too many times

[fallen jay]

I forgot but which is more important to retrofit? Helena or Saratoga? I already have Z23 and Unicorn retrofitted. Though Z23 still has a few levels left to get in one more category

[light trail]

will la9 ever be in the shop

[stark quiver]

Probably

[stark quiver]

Saratoga

[fallen jay]

Understood. I’ll give her all my supplies.

Ok another question cause my memory is failing me. Is it better/worth it to do the highest hard mode stage you can? For instance I want carriers. So would doing 9-4 yield better rewards than doing 3-4?

[pseudo hearth]

So, I’m curious, as Arizona already is a ship with lowered damage, and she has a heal based on chance when her main guns fire, would it just be better to use the absolute fastest fire guns, damage be damned? Tangentially what is actually the fastest firing BB gun in the game?

[stark quiver]

Some purple skc

[viscid swift]

I think it's the Scharnhorst gun

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_283mm_(SK_C/34)#tabber-Type_3

[pseudo hearth]

Would it be a case of, if you’re using Arizona with her augment, it’d just be better to use this gun?

[stark quiver]

No because you already have a healer like unicorn

[viscid swift]

Probably not but you may as well have fun with it because you're not getting much out of her either way

[pseudo hearth]

I’m talking about already assuming you’re using Arizona in a fleet as a healer or something.

[stark quiver]

lol yea go ahead
Tho I’d run a 457 at least

[pseudo hearth]

How much slower is the 457?

[stark quiver]

4s

[pseudo hearth]

There’s a doc and stuff with gun timing info right?

[stark quiver]

wdym?

theres the wiki for gun stats

[pseudo hearth]

Tbh, I don’t use it for that, so I didn’t remember

[sweet delta]

/wiki lost of battleship

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Battleship_Guns

[pseudo hearth]

Oh shoot, I forgot Gold Hood Gun exists. Tbh, it doesn’t look like it’s that much slower than the Scharn gun…

[crimson glacier]

uh whats gold hood gun

[pseudo hearth]

Idk what you guys refer to it as, but it’s what I refer to this as

[low juniper]

What faction(s) do you need to grind exp for to develop Gouden Leeuw?

[crimson glacier]

oh that, its really weak

[pseudo hearth]

True, but it’s stronger than the Scharn Gun, and about as fast

[viscid swift]

Dutch, Italian, and for the 2nd CDC German

[pseudo hearth]

KMS and Dutch IIRC

[crimson glacier]

from the really fast guns odins gun is the best imo

[low juniper]

Is it vanguard for CDC1 and main for CDC2?

[crimson glacier]

no

vanguard for both since its CA

[soft raft]

that's just simply called Hood Gun

[low juniper]

What was the faction name for Italian again

[soft raft]

Sardenga Empire

[stark quiver]

satrdeganj9a

hmm

[pseudo hearth]

Eh that’s a lot slower. This was talking about the idea of using Arizona as a healer and just equipping her with a really fast BB gun to try and get her heal to trigger often enough.

[stark quiver]

what are you cooking

[crimson glacier]

its practically same speed and thats really fucking bad idea

[pseudo hearth]

It’s a whole 2 seconds slower

[pseudo hearth]

Something’s not right, because that’s not what the wiki says

[crimson glacier]

you are looking at wrong gun

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_305mm_(SK_C/39_Prototype)#Type_0-0

[crimson glacier]

why are you looking at lvl 0 stats

[pseudo hearth]

Yeah, 2 seconds slower

[crimson glacier]

look at +10 stats

[pseudo hearth]

Ah, I didn’t notice that lol

[crimson glacier]

👍

[low juniper]

Do the small versions count towards exp collection

[pseudo hearth]

Hmm, Scharn Gun I’d argue is still an option in this case because that one actually is 2 seconds slower than these two, and you’re already not caring about damage with Arizona.

[pseudo hearth]

For Pr grind?

[crimson glacier]

yeah but are you going to even shoot more anyway

[low juniper]

Yes

[crimson glacier]

if you get same amount of shots anyway then dmg is king

[pseudo hearth]

They should count towards XP, as long as they’re the right faction.

[pseudo hearth]

Assuming building for HSFCR and reload, you can probably get down pretty low to the point where it could matter if think, expecoally in Arizona’s case as a healer.

[crimson glacier]

i dont think so

[pseudo hearth]

Also, her augment already cuts down on reload time by 10%

[crimson glacier]

and if anything the fights will just drag out anyway and you will take more dmg

[pseudo hearth]

This is assuming for like mobbing though, which is where you’d want a healer.

[crimson glacier]

yeah but you want dmg just as much

sooner you kill the enemies the less dmg you need to heal for

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, it has more to do with the fact that her on gun fire heal has a 50% chance trigger (although it heals the entire Vanguard by a good chunk to balance it out), so I was sort of going on the idea trying to finagle it in such a way that you try and fire as many shots as possible to try and get the skill to trigger.

Obviously I know Arizona herself isn’t that great, this is more so for the fun of it.

[crimson glacier]

yeah i know what you mean

its just that the chance that you will get 1 extra shot with weaker gun is still really low

[pseudo hearth]

I guess Odin gun would probably be the best choice though then. I wonder how low you could get the Odin gun reload for her though. Assuming Augment, HSFCR, and Autoloader (just to push it as much as one can).

[fierce lantern]

who should i MLB (ignore musashi shes just a copy)

[forest palm]

what other UR do you have?

[stark quiver]

implacable seems good

[forest palm]

Implacable for sure

[fierce lantern]

Alrighty thank u!

[sweet delta]

> musashi is just a copy
> one of six

[forest palm]

6 isn't even that much

[low juniper]

How do you get meta crystal fragments

[ivory pawn]

Weeklies and Arbiter mostly. Can sometimes get some from events too.

[ocean scroll]

hi I am trying to farm 12-1 but fleet keeps dying, would anyone have some advice? wondering if im gearing wrong

[sweet delta]

is it safe threat? Must you use these gray DDs?

[icy eagle]

why is this locked? i have done the first one

[sweet delta]

because you need to wait the time

[stark quiver]

Did you claim the first one

[icy eagle]

yes

[sweet delta]

then it's not locked

[sinful escarp]

then wait. those unlocks every 24 hrs. except for the last 2 because those open up at the same time at the end

[icy eagle]

ohhh

thank you

[sinful escarp]

there is a timer there

[sweet delta]

there's no timer

[sinful escarp]

man its been so long since i did PR that i thought there was......

[sweet delta]

it's already unlocked and should count your progress

[sinful escarp]

oh yeah its unlocked. then just run those ships in maps and it will progress

[sweet delta]

i mean you seem like a 👴 so surely you can afford +10 rainbow gear?

The DDs should be using HP instead of washing machines though

also just use Alsace SOyuz Musashi in the other fleet, it'll end battles in 20s and allow your vanguard to not need survivability auxes

[ionic kraken]

Which do y’all recommend harbin or chkalov?

[stark quiver]

I use Harbin in one scenario and chalklov in zero

[ocean scroll]

for example what would be some rainbows you'd look to throw in? just kinda bad at gearing - usually just follow https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb?ship=arizona

HP for DDs, is that like the random aux that gives 500hp?

[ocean scroll]

i have shinano, amagi (cv), and musashi in other fleet - should i swap out for anyone? do't have alsace or soyuz

[vagrant dome]

Whats a quick way to grind exp to level 50? Is it just repeating 6-4?

[sweet delta]

i also realize your cassin downes arent retrofitted

[sweet delta]

Lion NJ Musashi. You'll have air incapability or air denial, but ending battles early means ACV is not a concern

[fallen jay]

Ok so in the proto shop for blueprint prototypes what should I be focusing on getting if any? And do I use them to help develop ships like Saint Louis or no?

Also what else can I do about oil since it’s super lacking for me currently?

[opaque galleon]

Does meck gun make Georgia gun timings better?

[soft raft]

Twin 457: 20.65s
Champy: 24.02s
Meck: 23.14s

No not really

[opaque galleon]

What if Georgia gun goes on a slow BB like kearsarge, and meck goes on a fast one?

[warped tartan]

Which rainbow should I prioritize?

[opaque galleon]

Tenrai

[cobalt gate]

when are they adding la 9?

[forest palm]

sometime early next year potentially

[fallen jay]

Is buying the PR packs worth it for new players like me? If so who should I get?

[opaque galleon]

Probably January

[late flame]

its not worth imo since it just allows you to timeskip the grind,
but if you really wanna buy PR4 probably would be worth most

[fallen jay]

I’m also looking to boost the rate I can grow in the game. I don’t like having to sit around for long gaps of time. The oil and gold is very uh problematic

[late flame]

i just play other (non-gacha) games or watch yt / touch grass

[ivory pawn]

The single best purchase for you then would be the level 70 pack.

[fallen jay]

I mean fair but I’m also just having fun with this game and don’t like being restricted because of time hating

[ivory pawn]

But also uh, gachas might not be the genre for you if you're not patient.

[fallen jay]

I mean I normally can be but it’s much harder to do so when you’re having fun with a game

[fallen jay]

I’m already level 75

[opaque galleon]

Meck is faster than biszwei right?

[sweet delta]

yes

[forest palm]

without factoring in much...BZ would be marginally faster than Meck

[flint sonnet]

How are the gears from pr8 looking?

[viscid swift]

overall really mediocre except for the Mecklenburg gun

[signal leaf]

do fritz rumey's secondary guns and special CA gun hit anything else than suicide boats?

uh like what

[little tree]

Doesnt she always use an AA gun anyway thou?

[signal leaf]

idk she can switch

[little tree]

~~ i ment isnt the CA gun you put on her like bad ?~~

[signal leaf]

she gains a special ca gun

that isnt apart of her main equipement line

[stark quiver]

Close enemies I reckon

Or just whatever in range of the secondary

[signal leaf]

so thats it

[stark quiver]

Kinda

Most of the time I just run hit stat AA on her

[sweet delta]

95 range is enough to reach typical bosses

[signal leaf]

hm i see

[runic cobalt]

Good for mob focused laffey ii?

[stark quiver]

Its fine yea

[hollow gust]

Moggy gun is better though

[runic cobalt]

Using twin 138.6 on Moga/eldridge retro

[hollow gust]

Huh?

[stark quiver]

Laffey has more dps than eld

[runic cobalt]

I see, thanks i take that in note

[cloud forge]

I know its obv not confirmed and won't be til they say, but does anyone have any inkling or timeline habits from AL to know when Musashi might be added to the UR Exchange?

I was unfortunately AFK from a surgery when they did the rerun last year and yeah... 😦

[ivory pawn]

I think she was expected to be next, which would put it around September-October ish.

[cloud forge]

very good

While I'm here anyone know which gun is best for Lion? I see her abilities are very burn-heavy with the Lionflame

I have the 406mm Mk.II from her event (I think it was her event...)

[soft raft]

Should be soon-ish
After the next update, there's only gonna be one event in line to be added to WA before Musashi's turn

At least, that is if the devs don't change things around

Rondo was supposed to have been archived months ago but got skipped twice in a row

[ivory pawn]

Usual BB stuff. Her event gun is great vs Light or for general mobbing. Champy or the new PR gun vs Heavy. Raff's gun vs Med if you got it a couple months ago.

[cloud forge]

Mostly looking for Bossing, my mobbing fleet has been doing fine for what I'm working on atm

Looking to make Harbiter a bit easier. I'm beating her every month but it's usually with 3 or 4 fleets worth

[soft raft]

Bossing where exactly?

[ivory pawn]

Like I said, her gun vs Light. Champy vs Heavy. Raff's or Champy vs Medium.

[soft raft]

In that case just select the gun that fits the armor type of the Arbiter that month

Hermit is heavy, Temperance is light, and Strength is Medium

[cloud forge]

between the 457 and the NJ gun, which one would go for which armor?

[soft raft]

Mobbing and light

Twin 457 is not really used in OpSi boss because good luck getting that to sync with Helena's radar scan lol

[cloud forge]

Oh hmm, I have 457 on my Biscuit 2 and Helena in that fleet...

So HE guns for Light then, AP for Heavy/Medium?

[soft raft]

Yes

[cloud forge]

I also have the SAP gun too from raffolo

Not sure which armor type thats for.

[soft raft]

It's more focused on Medium while regular AP BB Guns have a more even focus on medium and heavy

[cloud forge]

Gotcha.. okay last question I promise, for Harbiter medium and heavy, if 457 isn't good cause Helena line up, what would be the better AP gun to run? I have one of these...

[soft raft]

Yes that gun in the picture

[cloud forge]

Perfect, thanks ^^

[viscid swift]

The 457 isn't not as good against bosses only because of Helena

[cloud forge]

So it'd probably be fine in the fleet w/o Helena?

[viscid swift]

For one, good luck getting and +13ing 3 of them, it'll be a long and expensive process

2nd, it only does more damage if you can get more salvos in, on a per Salvo basis the Champagne gun does more damage

[cloud forge]

I swapped the 457 with it on my Biscuit2 since she runs with the Helena

[stark quiver]

420 per salvo is really that much better than 414?
not factoring in armor mod, spread and fp
or is it because of the coefficient

[viscid swift]

You just answered your own question alpha......

[stark quiver]

there are 3 different questions in that message, i assume all 3 are correct?

[wind hazel]

it's 450

[stark quiver]

youre right

[wind hazel]

420blazeit

[viscid swift]

so before factoring in armor mods, Champagne gun does 14% more damage than the 457

457 does have +5 mods against medium and heavy armor

but as I said, getting and +13ing 3 champagne guns is a heck of a lot easier than 3 457s

[stark quiver]

what if i have 2 +13 457s, max rld and oaths, will 3 457 be btr

[wind hazel]

you can get 4 strikes too with champy isn't it

[viscid swift]

no because the whole idea behind 457s is you can easily get 4 salvos off in METAs

with oaths and max BB reload you can quite comfortably get 4 salvos off with the champagne gun

[stark quiver]

+13d 2 for nothing

[viscid swift]

also Raffaello gun exists for medium armor and it's a heck of a lot better for medium armor

[wind hazel]

pvp 📈

[viscid swift]

and it syncs better with the Champagne gun than the 457

[stark quiver]

well yes

as good as raf gun is, gotta wait until mog gun is +13

[warped acorn]

wheres the place to get ur gear design plans in opsi

[stark quiver]

any zone with cat node
shop
arbiter

[warped acorn]

arbiter...

[honest sequoia]

Any UR gear worth +13

[stark quiver]

a lot actually

[wind hazel]

a lot

[honest sequoia]

[warped acorn]

whats the max adapt i should go for (i forgot)

[honest sequoia]

203/203/156

[warped acorn]

oh thanks

[south sequoia]

any gear that isnt z flag is worth the +13
Some cases maybe argued like oxy torp

oxy is still kinda worth if you have so much excess aux plates

and if you tryhard pvp

[stark quiver]

dont need +13 to win

[warped acorn]

even w15?

[south sequoia]

u dont need it yes but it'd be an upgrade regardless
Still not a good aux to prio the gold plates though however

[south sequoia]

what

[warped acorn]

+13 gears

[south sequoia]

ofc its worth it to +13 gears for world 15

[stark quiver]

id say that its better than wnt, pearl, yellow shell, fmp ,prowler, boiler

[stark quiver]

what gears specifically

[south sequoia]

^

[warped acorn]

lion gun

[south sequoia]

no

[stark quiver]

lion gun is a good +13
457 is not a good +13

[warped acorn]

nj gun?

[south sequoia]

I mean lion gun is a great gun to 13, but it isnt specifically great to w15

[stark quiver]

i mean you can only have 1 lion gun, else defaults to mk7

[royal copper]

u dont

[warped acorn]

ah

[south sequoia]

raffaelo gun is a good gun to +13 too imo

I'm not sure where it places though in terms of priority