gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

But like

[normal cedar]

I see, I've finished 5 now so Ill switch to 7 then, sorry for misinterpreting

[atomic abyss]

Is it more important than a d30 Plymouth?

Advice changes depending on the context

[verbal plinth]

ironblood for leeuw should be easy

[white agate]

so either balance breaking or musashi gun useable ok

[inner delta]

just like any other equipment that isn't in the game yet yes

[wind oxide]

(legend of the sea)? Does that means it's a UR?

[molten zinc]

UR in CN, if you translate them using MTL, it will show either Sea Legend or Legend of the Sea

[wind oxide]

We getting a quad gun then

[molten zinc]

Ultra Rare in CN = SSR for other server

[wind oxide]

Ohh

[verbal thistle]

Who's the best to pursue? I just completed Hindernburg

[hollow gust]

It doesn't really matter what you go for, the prints are the hard part

[verbal thistle]

Cool, thanks

[cobalt robin]

At what point should you switch focus from pr7

[hollow gust]

Either immediately or once you grab ply dev 30

[cobalt robin]

So when I have ply dev30 swítch to pr5?

[split gazelle]

no he misread your message

[cobalt robin]

Yea I think

My question is at what point should I stop doing pr7

[robust nymph]

just got my 4th sr bulin.. is it worth going for shinano mlb?

[cobalt robin]

Ur bullin you mean, perma urs aren't worth using bullins on

[white agate]

when you get nak to dev 30 and possibly at least 1 la-9, getting 2 may be better

[tropic tusk]

More la9 the better I see no reason to stop

[robust nymph]

so how are you supposed to mlb them?

[cobalt robin]

Getting copy from 1 daily build

Takes a while but keep your spec cores and ur bullins for event urs

[cobalt robin]

Don't even have my first so I'll stay at pr7 then

[robust nymph]

that sounds crazy amount of cope no? whats the chance of getting her from daily build (i also build light usually), and you need 4 of them

[tropic tusk]

Beside musashi is a must to MBL rest are mostly just sit unless U don't have better choice

[white agate]

you don't get her from daily build, you get her from 400/400

[fair lance]

He meant getting copies from perma 400 cube copies.

[cobalt robin]

Yes

[tropic tusk]

Or daily special pull, which is not recommended

[robust nymph]

oh i didnt know about that mechanic, every 400 builds you get to choose a sr?

[cobalt robin]

But if you're lucky you will get ur sooner

[tropic tusk]

UR ships will only show on special pull

So U either daily light till pity or special daily pull

[tropic tusk]

Some event like the current one will count to perma pity

[cobalt robin]

10/50 la-9 😔😔

[robust nymph]

if you daily special pull are you still cube positive on the long run?

[fair lance]

Yes you'd get 2 cubes per day instead of 3 per day from daily missions.

[tropic tusk]

U daily get 4cubes (forgot what mission they are) but one of them are do a daily pull , so yes if U daily pull special U will technically get net 2 per day instead of 3

[wind hazel]

not much reason to do that though

[tropic tusk]

Unless Ur desperate like me trying to get Aquila but other then that there no reason to rush

Tho my goal wasn't rushing for pity so that's another story

[robust nymph]

since i havent played in ages i thought id be getting newer ships from light builds but it very rarely happens, maybe if i pulled from special id be getting more new ones and therefore more tech points?

[wind hazel]

or you get shitass norfolks

[tropic tusk]

In theory U switch to different pool doesn't effect U much

[wind hazel]

who is even in special pool

[tropic tusk]

Aquila

[split gazelle]

You can also get tech points different ways, and save cubes for UR events (that can also have different pools)

[wind hazel]

yeah have fun getting this instead

the reason you do 1 Light is so that you can save more cubes to go ham at events, and most events are either heavy or special

switching to special for daily pull is kinda defeating that purpose

[robust nymph]

alright i will stick to light

also i was saving up for the iron blood submarine in merit shop for 20k but i already reached the IB to start agir.. so now idk what to buy in there

[wind hazel]

just save

gold bulin if you need it to mlb ships

it's either that or save for tech ships in the future

[robust nymph]

anything else besides gold bulin?

[tropic tusk]

u trying to get U37?

[robust nymph]

if that is the name of the IB sub in there yeah

i was, at least

[tropic tusk]

this?

may i recommand farming her here in ur free time

[robust nymph]

is it 60 clears or random drop?

[tropic tusk]

60 is must drop , before that its random

[robust nymph]

ah thats nice

[tropic tusk]

do note 60 only count when u do d3 boss

[robust nymph]

my issue with older events is that i consume so much oil doing so.. and my ships arent strong enough to run like 1-1

[split gazelle]

If you have enough tech for IB then I wouldn't bother farming it

[tropic tusk]

or ur going to use 3u for sub team

if im not wrong u can grab tai yuan in guild shope and get her retrofit item from proto so u can make a simple unicorn, tai yuan 1-1 fleet for that event .
tho dont know if its recommend to do it as her retrofit item cost 2k specialized core , which is half a UR bulin

[cobalt robin]

Imma be stuck at pr7 for the next 5 years 😔🙏🏻

[tropic tusk]

or unelss u have one of the ddg

[tropic tusk]

theres a high chance when pr8 comes out people will ask u get some ship dev 30 first then maybe go back for la9

more or less there will be at least 1 ship thats good

[cobalt robin]

get a pr8 ship to dev 30?

[tropic tusk]

yea more or less

[cobalt robin]

Brother I barely had enough tech points to start farming for anchorage

[tropic tusk]

im not saying its a must but there might be a chance

[cobalt robin]

How am gonna get to pr8

[tropic tusk]

if u dont then thats another story

[verbal plinth]

best use for the 300 catchup prints shimanto?

[tropic tusk]

shimanto

[hollow gust]

She is the most meta relevant yes

[verbal plinth]

thanks

[cobalt robin]

I've basically been playing for one and a half months, played till chap 6 in 2019 but yea so take that into account

[tropic tusk]

ur not loyal u left n came back

[cobalt robin]

I started cause of enty, I oathed her and left, came back for her lol

Legit the only reason I played back then was to marry enty

[tropic tusk]

i didnt even know this game till 2023 sadly

[cobalt robin]

I used all my purple bullins to get eu tech points 😔 forget abt pr8 can't even get other ships in pr4

[tropic tusk]

It's fine U can't rush it anyway

[cobalt robin]

😔😔

[tropic tusk]

I been playing 2years ,didn't miss a single day and I finally got lvl9 on all factions like 2weeks ago

[eternal basalt]

Next week; ・Permanent implementation of the event "Reciting the Lapis Lazuli Music" which is that? Polaris 3?

[cobalt robin]

it's gonna take a while 😔

[fleet berry]

Were you reading JP patch notes? I think it is Emden's event.

[robust nymph]

leveling up commander lvl takes so long.. im gatekept from campaign badly

[tropic tusk]

then its a great time to go war archrive

[eternal basalt]

I see, odd translation. Thanks!

[fleet berry]

Yeah, searching for the JP name 吟ずる瑠璃の楽章 gave me Emden's event.

[robust nymph]

i was spamming 12-4 but maybe i should yeah. also im trying to farm IB xp but with 3 ships in the fleet its still sooo slow

[tropic tusk]

oh u at 12-4 then ur fine no need war archrive unless u want that sub

[eternal basalt]

If you want IB XP wait till thursday, give it towards a DR

[tropic tusk]

tho if u did pull for the current event for its sup i hear u dont need u-37

[robust nymph]

why thursday?

[verbal plinth]

the new elf will be IB

[eternal basalt]

Cause that's PR8's release date

[fleet berry]

If you already are at 12-4, that should be your best farming places. 12-4 should give you the maximum SKK EXP bonus until SKK Lv133. And unless you want the exclusive 13-4, 14-4, and 15-4 ships, there's not much real reason to push to W13+ anyway. Maybe except for the free gems.

[robust nymph]

im unlocking agir so i doubt ill be doing pr8

[spare harbor]

what class should repair kit go on

[storm olive]

Is there only 4 ships this season or did I miss another announcement

[tropic tusk]

or havent show all yet

[crisp raven]

https://x.com/azurlane_staff/status/1942433208605499504 EN is just late with this announcement. all 5 have been revealed (assuming there is no 6th)

[eternal basalt]

There is no 6th... we have patchlogs already

[honest sequoia]

so any info on pr8 gear

[wind oxide]

The 406MK7 gun from the patch is a new gun or the NJ gun?

[wind oxide]

#gameplay-help message

[wispy cosmos]

nj gun is 406/50, this is a 406/45

[wind oxide]

Ohh right

[south sequoia]

quadruple barrel ur bb gun??

[molten zinc]

yea

[eternal basalt]

All the PR gear is new, as per usual

[plain saffron]

Any patch notes link?

[ivory pawn]

[forest palm]

https://azurlane.jp/news/694

[tropic tusk]

i dont think en has this yet right?

[forest palm]

they are a bit slow, yes

[tropic tusk]

nice just double checking incase i missed the tweet

[warped acorn]

is it normal for sub to get mvp in a full-team

also ghost of the white sea is weaker than all meta boss?

[wind oxide]

The patch note actually translated gouden's exp accumulation as Iron fist and sardegna
Iron fist is gonna be iron blood right?

[forest palm]

one would assume

[plain saffron]

So we have 2 406mm mk7 now?

[forest palm]

it's a 45 instead of a 50, but yes

[late flame]

*rainbow beehive gun when

[wind oxide]

it better be better than the 50

[plain saffron]

What those stands for barrel length?

[forest palm]

Caliber

[mint fox]

Hello, I would like to seek guidance as I'm returning to this game after a 2 year (?) hiatus.

1. I would like to ask which units should I be focusing on to progress more and faster (but I know some of which I'd had are outdated now, but I'm all in for adjustments)

2. Where can I get weapons for my units?

3. Are there any stages that I should be doing right now? And should I do it with these units i have

Please tag me for an answer I wanna get back to this game. Thank you so much

[tropic tusk]

seeing how ur at least lvl 100 yet ur uni still not retrofit lets start with uni

[eternal basalt]

2 years ago she had no retro

[blissful hamlet]

what's the UR equip from the new series?

[tropic tusk]

well my 2 years ago she had already so.. maybe his 2 years is alittle more early then me

[molten zinc]

Mecklenburg gun

[forest palm]

oh, Shoukaku is getting a UE?

[urban grail]

• build 2 proper fleets and get to w12 and further if u havent
• equip from gearlab, core shop, and dont forget to do opsi daily
• start saving cubes for next UR

[blissful hamlet]

BB gun

[mint fox]

Do we have a tier list of characters here for each category? And also a fleet builder?

[tropic tusk]

there is a cn one if u want tier list , https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[split gazelle]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[urban grail]

also dont forget to focus on DR/PR ships while farming @mint fox and collect the blueprints

[split gazelle]

For fleet I'd suggest using Hood (flag) - Enterprise - Unicorn, Portland - Helena - San Diego for now until someone with more knowledge corrects me. And push chapters as far as you can. Focus retrofit on unicorn > helena

san diego is also worthy of retrofit but expensive so wait for other peoples advice on that

and make sure to level 120 the fleet you use

oh and most of your gear will come from tech boxes, you can follow https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/ on how to gear your ships. and ofcourse any other questions are welcome here

[warped acorn]

ghost of the sea weaker than all metas except current one?

[robust nymph]

if you put better ships here do you get better rewards?

i always do recommended but it puts lvl70 rare or elite ships that i never used before

[wind hazel]

no

[ivory pawn]

Nope. Hit recommended, hit start, forget about it until you see the notif again.

[robust nymph]

prints worth it or..?

[wind hazel]

if you need them

[robust nymph]

i keep getting these prints and i still havent used a single one cause i never really completed a pr ship

[wind hazel]

then maybe complete one

[robust nymph]

trying it takes ages..

[split gazelle]

[robust nymph]

cause i got told to never use the things to skip the xp farm grind needed

idk what for but im listening

[tropic tusk]

exp ticket are exp ticket those are bp prints

[silk helm]

are there only 4 ships for pr8?

[robust nymph]

i mean this

[wind hazel]

i mean those are two separate things

[tropic tusk]

they are bp not exp ticket tho

[wind hazel]

blueprints are for enhancing the ships lol

[cobalt robin]

1,2 mil exp doesn't take that long

[wind oxide]

Are you sure?
It takes 2 days for me

[tropic tusk]

2days is fast lol

[boreal wagon]

you can get it done in a single day if you really wanted to

[cobalt robin]

Yes

[turbid marsh]

i mean there is no rush in this anyways because can't use em before dev30 unless want to 125 and oath as soon as possible

[muted crescent]

3 pr, 2 dr

apparently 1 more is due to be announced tmr

[forest palm]

DD → CL → CA → 2x BB

[wind oxide]

OH HELL YEA

are you sure tho?

[forest palm]

okbuddy sub ah ass moment

yes, that's what they've annouced

[tropic tusk]

imageine pr sub that wil be nice

[split gazelle]

requirement of 2.4mil exp from submarine class ships

[wind oxide]

where?

[molten zinc]

CN weibo and JP twitter

[turbid marsh]

they annoucned where for 6th pr8?

pretty sure just 5 cause cn already made the update announcement

[molten zinc]

EN doesn't annouce anything today for some reason

[forest palm]

DR → CA → Gouden Leeuw (HNLMS)
DR → BB → Mecklenburg (KMS)
PRY → BB → Kansas (USS)
PRY → CL → Dmitri Donskoi (SN)
PRY → DD → Vittorio Cuniberti (RN)

[wind oxide]

huh?

I thought new one gonna be announced besides that
or were you talking about EN announcement?

[tropic tusk]

thats y it will be fun]

[split gazelle]

https://azurlane.jp/news/694

[molten zinc]

[tropic tusk]

probly tmr will have en version

[wind oxide]

[marsh bison]

I think Azur Lane is tripping rn

[forest palm]

EN being slow with news, nothing new

[tropic tusk]

how

[marsh bison]

Idk

[split gazelle]

desync, probably

[boreal wagon]

it wouldnt surprise me if EN just skips the announcement all together and just posts patch notes tmr

[marsh bison]

Azur lane be tripping ong
0 stars win

[forest palm]

they usually release a PV with each Season

[wind oxide]

your game smoked something, restart it

Wow

[molten zinc]

wtf

[forest palm]

<@&472236072743600148> scam post

[wind oxide]

🙏

[forest palm]

do not click those images

[wind oxide]

Good money making

[severe tinsel]

Lmao

[inland shoal]

Just don't follow what the images say

[severe tinsel]

Are they gonna remove them from research ship or smth? Nvm I forgot....

[wind oxide]

Dude.... they're upcoming research ships

[severe tinsel]

Whats this abt?

[split gazelle]

patch notes

[severe tinsel]

Ohh, abt the new ships and event?

[boreal wagon]

just translate the post or wait until tomorrow for the EN one

[paper walrus]

when is pr8 coming out?

[tropic tusk]

few dayes

[nocturne horizon]

I just reached the cutscene that says 'true end'is that the end of the story?

[novel solstice]

that's the end of the opsi story, yeah.

But there's a lot of useful loot in opsi if you farm it regularly.

[nocturne horizon]

Story is shorter than i expected

[tropic tusk]

rest are from event n stuff

[forest palm]

PR8 basically lands the day after tomorrow

[novel solstice]

Event stories feel like they get longer every time.

[forest palm]

well it is how AL tells its main story

[nocturne horizon]

All events or just certain ( I know collaboration events dont count)

[forest palm]

basically every event is connected story wise, and weaves what would constitute as AL's main story (even if it's a bit of a mess and people have to stitch things together)

[wind oxide]

So the quad guns have 22*22 spread right? and quads miss most of the time so even if the gun is a 20 secs
Is it still gonna be good?

[novel solstice]

There have been a couple of minor events that are other bits of WW2 like the main campaign (Graf Spee and Garlic Shark Sub); one or two that are random side stories (the one that introduced the chibi girls, tempesta events, etc); the rest are the "main plot arc" with the war against the sirens and all the crazy alternate-world-stuff they're doing now.
It is especially incoherent if you're a newer player so you're getting rerun events so you are seeing things out of order.

[robust nymph]

so i shouldnt really be concerned about wasting these?

[fair lance]

You should alayze them instead

[echo vector]

I can't find guides for Anchorage's special dorm collectibles. I'm missing 4 of them and just can't find them

[robust nymph]

should do what?

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/dorm3d/collectible?sortType=class

[cobalt robin]

Analyze

[fair lance]

In the depot click on them and analyze them

[echo vector]

Thank you very much

[robust nymph]

like this?

[cobalt robin]

Yes

[novel solstice]

Yes. Always analyze them. The XP gathering may feel slow, but the actual slow part is getting the blueprints to raise the ship's dev level (the equivalent of limit breaking). So there's no point in speeding up the XP grind, you'll be done with that months before you finish getting blueprints anyway. Whereas analyzing them into protocores lets you buy equipment that will help you now.

[cobalt robin]

Sexy tenrai

[robust nymph]

very interesting ty

should i buy rainbow gear with it?

oh its just the item to craft......

[cobalt robin]

Get tenrai

[wind hazel]

no

[cobalt robin]

Why

[wind hazel]

get champy gun from PR3 prints first, if you don't have any

[tropic tusk]

tenrai mostly only used on uni

[fair lance]

mix of at least 2 406/50 and triple 380 mle 1935 first

[wind hazel]

uni can't even equip tenrai 🤦🏼‍♂️

[tropic tusk]

wait thats wyvern mbmb xD

[novel solstice]

The rainbow stuff is awesome, but is extremely expensive -- it takes 50 of the rainbow prints to craft into one tenrai, so I'd recommend doing that only if you already have a pile of those and only need a few more to get to 50. There are gold items that are much cheaper but almost certainly better than some of the gear you have now.

[robust nymph]

do i care about p3 prints if i dont plan on doing any p3 ships?

[wind hazel]

it's not ships, it's the gear

[robust nymph]

oh you said from

[fair lance]

Yes, because it's a BB gun

[novel solstice]

(basically you do want to eventually get those rainbow things, but in the short run it's probably better to get something you can use now than a fraction of a thing that you won't be able to finish for ages)

[wind hazel]

it's also for practical usage reason. you can use helldiver, albeit weaker in your DB slot

but you don't have any AP BB gun

and setting up CV is a lot more than just the DB

[boreal merlin]

How effective is the EVA stat and how good is it in vanguard tanks / CB ships? They already have low base EVA. Wouldn't it be better to give Agir VH armor plating and toolkit instead of Hydraulic/Beaver?

[wind hazel]

eva is very good, precisely because they have low eva that you want to boost their eva

opposite of DD who has high eva, thats why we boost their HP instead

[novel solstice]

Evasion is very important in most fights. The diminishing-returns of stats means that if you have a tank that has high HP and low evasion, it helps more to buff the evasion, whereas if you have one that's low HP and high evasion, it helps more to buff the HP.
That's why the usual recommendation is that cruisers get evasion gear, destroyers get HP gear; the cruisers are low evasion, the destroyers are low HP.

[fair lance]

Evasion isn't liner so the more you have the less effect more evasion will have so if you have none adding some will be a lot of help.

[boreal merlin]

Thanks

The diminishing return / non-linear part just explained everything

[robust nymph]

for example? about the gold gear

[wind hazel]

buy this, until you have 25 copies

you will craft this

get another 25 copies, get the same thing

[novel solstice]

If you run the protocore command in bot-spam channel, it will give you suggestions for what to spend them on, including some good BB guns and some good aircraft.

[robust nymph]

twice of the same? aight

[wind hazel]

yes it will take like 3 months

because dev decides to say "haha fuk u" and let us purchase only 20

[molten zinc]

[wind oxide]

So you're saying the more evasion we have the less effect it has right?
Im kinda confused on this

[fair lance]

Yes, the more you have the less additional evasion will give you evasion rate.

[robust nymph]

one of each or usually one of these lacks more?

[tropic tusk]

all of them

[split gazelle]

main gun or aircraft are usually more used

[storm olive]

5 more evasion will have more of an effect when you have 50 evasion Vs when you have 250 evasion

[wind oxide]

Yeaaaa i understand now

[split gazelle]

you can keep them as universal until you actually need them btw

[wind oxide]

So it's a non linear graph on Y-X` axis

[fair lance]

Basically

[cloud panther]

do u guys use toolbox + tulip / blue towel?

[fair lance]

For what ship are you asking?

[cloud panther]

general use for survival

[fair lance]

It depends on the ship for almost all DDs yes

[inner dock]

Is there any use for shiny books other than lvling skills?

[fair lance]

Skill books? Nope not that I'm aware of.

[tropic tusk]

u mean these?

[winged plover]

I cannot find the Bulin brigade down with the megacorp events page music anywhere, does anyone know an archive or channel?

[inner dock]

yes

[tropic tusk]

they are used for leveling up skillls lol

here then click on the ship u want

[fair lance]

They asked if there's any use besides leveling skills

[tropic tusk]

oh no then just that

[gusty olive]

What recommended set up for BB fleet for Kawa M?

[inner dock]

i mean, u-556 ate few yellow books to unlock her skills, so i was asking if it's better to hoard these

[fair lance]

#gameplay-help message

[fair lance]

Yeah meta ships want I think 5 yellow books and purple metas want 2 purple skill books to start training their skills. But since there's no UR metas they don't eat UR skill books

[undone plover]

If u want to speedrun skills on new ships for example new UR then hoarding 6-7 books is a good idea
If u dont care just use them overnight so u dont have downtime on skill training

[tropic tusk]

u need 6 blue to craft 1 purple , 4 to craft 1 gold

[rapid summit]

What’s the next possible ur rerun?

[tropic tusk]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Unzen

she is the next one

[rapid summit]

Alr ty

[lilac flame]

Should I limit break vanguard or raffaello first they’re both on the final limit break

[fair lance]

Raffaello since vanguard is in the perma pool.

[lilac flame]

Ok

[hollow gust]

There has to be more options then just Raffey

[lilac flame]

I only have 2other ur ships and they are max limit break ):

[viscid swift]

you missed Lion, Trafalgar, Bismarck Zwei, and/or Imlplacable then

[turbid marsh]

lordy missed lion traf bismark

[native knoll]

Is this confirmed?

Any info on it yet other than being UR?

[robust nymph]

any of these good on zenker?

[viscid swift]

we have no info on any of the ships or gear

[viscid swift]

the Mk6 is the only good gun there

[robust nymph]

triple 305mm worth upgrading over purple mk6?

[hollow gust]

its nice for campaign

[broken anchor]

Is Chi An any good?

[robust onyx]

Average at best

[sage garden]

how to complete this thing?

[ivory pawn]

One of the devices that can spawn asks you for an Energy capsule or some Special Tokens, and spawns more stuff. Basically find another one of those and use it until it breaks.

[novel solstice]

Pray that the scanning facility spawns when you run the zone. They are a rare 🎲 spawn, so it may take forever to get those last few stars.

[eternal basalt]

Be glad it's not one of the MANY once-a-month chance options

[broken anchor]

Any CL worth grabbing in any of the shops?

[split gazelle]

San Diego > Sirius

[narrow kiln]

Am I right in understanding that evasion is not recommended for Destroyers due to their high starting stat?

[forest palm]

ya for the most part that is correct

[stark quiver]

high starting eva , relatively low hp pool

[narrow kiln]

I want to ask...
And yet, what is the stat "luck"?

[sweet delta]

/accuracy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[fallen jay]

Question in the war archives since I have done very little expect about 4 missions for the visitors dyed in red. Should I be doing something else instead?

Also the chapter 9 oil limit means that’s all the oil that will be used in the whole stage correct?

[ivory pawn]

Oil cap is specifically per battle, so if you have to do an extra battle for some reason you’ll use a bit more oil.

Usual recommendation for WA is Divergent Chessboard for IB tech. If you’ve already got enough IB tech for FdG then you can just ignore it tbh.

[fallen jay]

What’s FdG?

[viscid swift]

Fredrich Der Grosse

[strange path]

This one

If i have 2 champy guns and a flandre gun i get tenrai next right

[fallen jay]

So I shoudl do the chessboard for FdG? Just keep going through it daily until I get her?

[soft raft]

no we mean as in do divergent chessboard to get enough tech points so you can start working on FdG

not that she's a ship drop from there

[viscid swift]

if you're in W12 then yeah turning your attention to getting Iron Blood tech wouldn't be a bad idea

[fallen jay]

I’m still world 10. Struggling to level up my ships for it.

[strange path]

No rush then, because you also need 3.6m xp for fdg’s combat data collection with ib main fleet ships

[fallen jay]

Yikes. I’m struggling with all this exp grinding. What do you guys recommend? Cause 9-1 is being pretty slow

[viscid swift]

then forget about farming for fleet tech right now

push to chapter 12 first

[strange path]

ur probably gonna want to pump xp packs into 3 ib main fleet ships to jumpstart them

U can start using them mlb in 12-4 at level 70 ish if u can keep them alive

[fallen jay]

I have exactly zero xp packs.

[strange path]

Well then u will put off xp collection for a while

[cobalt robin]

He can worry abt getting fdg later

[strange path]

Unless u wanna dump them in dorm for a week

[fallen jay]

What else do I do to level up faster? I already have the lowest levels of the fleet you made for me yesterday in the dorm. Now theyre at 61 and 55

[cobalt robin]

Nothing else except grinding the highest stage you can

[stark quiver]

Probably event if you haven’t gotten to 45k

[fallen jay]

So I should be grinding 9-4 instead of 9-1? I thought 9-1 was more xp

[cobalt robin]

Is it? Idk

Someone fact check

[stark quiver]

You should fact check

[soft raft]

X-1 has better oil/XP efficency
X-4 has better oil/gold efficency

[viscid swift]

at this stage not much really

just keep them in the dorm and continue grinding

[stark quiver]

1-1 more xp efficient than 1-4

[cobalt robin]

1-1 too difficult 😔✌🏻

[sweet delta]

/wiki user:suchiguma/auto

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suchiguma/AutoSearch

[sweet delta]

9-4 has better exp per oil than 9-1 for the mob fleet if you use a mob and a boss fleet

And 9-4 has much better coins per oil than 9-1 no matter one fleet or two fleet

[sweet delta]

Is this fake news

[cobalt robin]

Damn

[vale spindle]

theoretically x-1 is more exp efficient but that doesn't account for spawns blocking the boss so you have an extra fight
if you were manually picking and choosing enemies then you could mitigate this by just having your fleets camp the boss spawn area so even if a ship would block the path you are already past it but at that point its not auto anymore

good to know that your simulations match up with what i theorized

[wary skiff]

Does hakuryuu only run 1 tenrai?

[sweet delta]

Two tenrais is indeed suboptimal

||Unless the boss has a huge hitbox||

[wary skiff]

Guessing it’s just torp bombers wherever I can put them for the ijn heavy comp right

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376280341337346220/1376292088131489914/cvs_day.png?ex=686e24a4&is=686cd324&hm=3225f1e0c347ee2207af82658665798a4ff68937a42141626d7b6cd5ee7c9fa8&

[wary skiff]

Ooo ty

[muted crescent]

finally got San Diego retrofitted 😭

[silk helm]

did u make this? i've been searchign for something like that for so long

[fleet berry]

Sushi, you said that,

Total Exp/Oil - average ship experience per oil per ship, not including bonuses from MVP, flagship, S rank, or morale

And,

Mob Exp/Oil - how much of the Total Exp/Oil went to the mob fleet

However, do these values take into account the small/medium/large mob distribution?

[sweet delta]

Yes

And I am making an update with one-fleet on my own site, so this wiki page may soon disappear

[fleet berry]

I had a gut feeling that 12-4 spawns more med/large mobs, making it in practice more efficient in EXP and oil compared to 12-1. But seems like I underestimated 12-1 medium mob spawn rate. But the difference is not that huge, anyway, and 12-1 primary advantage is simply its much easier difficulty.

[sweet delta]

I play 12-4 so that every few weeks I have to spend 1 hours and 100k coins to get +20 fleet power and avoid overcapping merchant

[wary skiff]

what plane is the hvar? the event one?

[sweet delta]

/wiki hvarq

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_F6F_Hellcat_(HVAR-Mounted)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/F6F_Hellcat_(HVAR_equipped)

Jul 8, 2025, 7:44 PM

[sweet delta]

wdym multiple results

[wary skiff]

the 2nd one is a deadlink, thats basically when i started the game so i got the skyraider but not the hvar or yt2 rip

[cobalt robin]

Aren't you a bit early for that?

[muted crescent]

still got it done

I was told to just focus on one fleet so might as well

[cobalt robin]

I mean it's a good investment but you're getting most of the value w13+

[cobalt robin]

plus it's just expensive af early on but too late for nitpicking

[strange path]

She does pump out damage with augment

[muted crescent]

that's next

[strange path]

For retrofit?

[muted crescent]

Sandy's augment is next

[cobalt robin]

there goes the gold

[iron blade]

Not sure if this constitutes help, but I did want to know what are the best Iron Blood ships? I prefer to run strictly Iron Blood, and I've been out of Azur for awhile. I just wanna know who to keep an eye out for, and who to grind. Pr or not

[vale spindle]

go to your favorite ship ranking site and just ignore all the not iron blood options

[wary skiff]

biz zwei

[vale spindle]

you will soon find that since iron blood does not have a healer its impossible

[cobalt robin]

Biscuit 2 very good

[iron blade]

I don't know of any ship ranking site

[vale spindle]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[cobalt robin]

With enough imagination uni can become an ib ship

[novel solstice]

Just get vampire to drain all of her blood, then you inject some iron, and poof, she's ironblood.

[cobalt robin]

technically we are all iron blood

[iron blade]

Btw, thanks guys for your help ☺️

[storm olive]

Ruppy fs5

[paper walrus]

So i got champy and flandre guns to +13. What is the priority for the gold plates now?

[left cedar]

new UR gun, AP or HE ? we got datamine ?

[undone plover]

save until we see the new BB gun

[storm olive]

No we don't got datamine like 30 hours before update

[eternal basalt]

Patch is thursday, now is tuesday....

[robust nymph]

worth? if i need gear

[opaque galleon]

No

[rain vine]

no

[stark quiver]

That’s basically trading a unique augment for some purple barracudas

[robust nymph]

wdym

[vale spindle]

the coin amount is too high for the value u r getting

[muted crescent]

fuck no\

[strange path]

Many tech boxes will come your way in due time

At where you are now using purple gear is fine

Not all gold gear is made equal, some of it is worse than purple gear

[sweet delta]

Consider it at a 90% discount

[broken anchor]

Do the buffs from owning ships stay if you get rid of said ships?

Also I need advice are any of these ships worth keeping?

[stark quiver]

yes

depending on your fleet, ig portland is a good newb tank
other than that all of them are safe to retire

[broken anchor]

Ty and you were saying yes to my other question correct? So I do lose anything from getting rid of these ships.

[undone plover]

u dont lose the tech points from obtaining them

[stark quiver]

no not really
most of not all are easily obtainable

well maybe dont scrap mutsuki, smalley

[undone plover]

i think he is asking about the obtain tech alpa
and no u dont lose those

[grand solar]

What is a good main and aux for Alabama?

[grand solar]

I kept Ajax around ad Imfound her skill against CA was prety decent.

[barren kettle]

Beginner question, the prize shop. Does its contents ever change? I see nothing of actual interest in it and it makes me a bit disappointed tbh

The skins are nice, but feels doubtful that I'll ever really use those ships

[stark quiver]

depends on what you do with her

[stark quiver]

maybe theyll add new skins or gear boxes in the future

[grand solar]

I was looking for something that was decent for use about 80-90% of the time. I know the triple 407 mk. 6 was good, but something a little better. My previous source for good,gear stopped updating like the end of last year.

[stark quiver]

whatre you fighting?
the gear depends on the enemy

mobbing> 457
light bossing > mk2 406
med bossing > proto triple 406 improved UR
Heavy bossing > 406/50 champy gun

[soft raft]

If you mean ECTL, they have a update planned soon

and most of the gear setups for a singular hulltype are pretty much identical 99% of the time

/equip you could also give the first link here a read

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[stark quiver]

they always have an update planned

[stark quiver]

damn only if they actually updated their site but

[wispy cosmos]

just keep using alabama's gear recs on ectl, nothing's changed other than liongun not being there which would be a 406mk7 sidegrade

[silk helm]

just use china tier list imo

[forest palm]

better yet acquire knowledge of the game that you don't need a tier list

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[muted crescent]

yes, they stay

tech points stay whether you have ships or not

[uneven cave]

With the event missions on the railcar stage, do all 3 fleets need to not have the specific hull type

[strange path]

I believe so

[stark quiver]

correct
all 3 fleets need to fulfill mission requirements
bbv's do not count as BBs nor CVs
kashino and those guys also dont count as any of the banned hulls

[low dove]

how has fleet composition been lately? I was barely given time to check out the 'meta' but I'd like to know! (mainly curious about the new recent URs' placement)

[stark quiver]

there are differnt fleet comps for differnet content, which ones are you looking for?

[low dove]

don't wanna put someone into typing out all the fleet comps (unless you don't mind)
I would like to know about the new URs' (starting from Amagi CV) suitable content! (Kearsarge is mainly in people's Light armor whereas Bismarck is mainly Heavy)

[sharp socket]

trust me typing out various best comps for each content is easier than guessing what exactly you want to do

[sweet delta]

I would say Bisz isn't mainly heavy

For individual ship strengths you can check /tierlist

Did you get all the new URs though

[low dove]

fortunately, I am reading it right now! Never seen this last year

[low dove]

yeah, I did fit my schedule for the UR events, so I am 100% with URs atm

[elfin hollow]

Hello, I just got Hiryuu and needed help on what gears I should give her. Any tips?

[low dove]

any more useful sites I can get my hands onto? Wonder if the bot has a list of 'em. Imma check in #bot-spam

[sweet delta]

Whats your fleet?

[low dove]

found your github, that's prob where I am gonna get back the grind from last year

[elfin hollow]

I'm new to the game

[sweet delta]

I think you should try fixing the whole fleet first

[sweet delta]

/guide follow the new player fleet except keep Zenker instead of Pennsylvania

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[low dove]

ranger being -5 in inconsistency feels so accurate

[crude jetty]

Who are some good vanguard tanks for W12 and above? Currently using Plymouth and Anchorage for boss and mob

[sweet delta]

Ply mob, Anchorage boss seems fine for up to chapter 13

And even 14 if you go double healer in mob

You should get aegir

[terse juniper]

15-1 help

[random rain]

hello! when would the pr5 voucher be available? as soon as the next update or during the EN anniv event?

[rain vine]

after 7/10 maintenance, as said in the twitter post

[eager mulch]

[prisma pendant]

“clear railcar on a joint sortie w/o bb/bc/bm” means that ALL the coalition fleets must not have those right?

Thanks!

[mint fox]

What units should I farm for in pr1?

[wind hazel]

new player? start with louis or roon

[mint fox]

Returning

[wind hazel]

what else can you do? what have you gotten already? what can you develop?

[mint fox]

Ive already developed louis and am currently doing roon

[wind hazel]

then finish roon

then see if you can do FDG or Anchorage

[mint fox]

Okay, but I kinda find it hard to farm the exp, is it alright if I do world stages before farming them? Currently doing W9

[rain vine]

would prioritize getting to world 12 first

[burnt sigil]

99 prints away from dev30 plymouth
31 prints away from first plymouth gun

Do I finish them or switch to the elf milf when pr8 drops

Very hard decision as a returning player

[stark quiver]

it depends on how good the elf is
use protocore for the plygun if you already bought the tenrai and 457
could probably use pr6 and 5 generals on ply while researching

[burnt sigil]

Wait I actually have a plygun

[stark quiver]

+13 460 💀

[wind hazel]

what's wrong with that?

[burnt sigil]

[wind hazel]

oh he also has it on uvh

[burnt sigil]

I have no idea, left years ago

Guess I just gave rainbow stuff to rainbow ships

[sweet delta]

Why skull it when you don't know they have +13 champ flandre soyuz kear already

[wind hazel]

i bet alpha has even more questionable +13 gears

[stark quiver]

i dont

[wind hazel]

hiding gear

[crude jetty]

Yeah I have Aegir, is she meant for boss or mob

[wind hazel]

she can both, but you usually put the tankier tank at boss, so put her on boss

[dreamy blade]

+13 yellow shell

[spare harbor]

should i prioritise retrofitting warspite or getting prototype bulins for my new jersey

[stark quiver]

is NJ your only UR?
shes a perma UR so low prio for bulins, what other URs do you have

[spare harbor]

my only ur

[stark quiver]

Work on getting FDG from pr2 and save spec core for now

[spare harbor]

idk what those abbreviations mean but sure ill save😭
thx

[stark quiver]

fdg is like fredrich de grosse in season 2 of shipyard, the UR BB
spec core is specialized core
we have a new UR ship on september probably

[spare harbor]

is friedrich better than nj or sum?

[stark quiver]

its just that NJ is a perma banner ship, so not really worth using bulins on her as opposed to using it on new URs
that said, dont pull perma, and do 1 light pull a day, pity will slowly accumulate and you should pick shinano cos shes used more

[spare harbor]

okok thx

[wispy beacon]

I'm thinking late august, since lion is late may

[stark quiver]

jp anni is in september
and thats when there is a new UR , well for the past years

[fast steppe]

do spawned enemies in hidden zones give xp for meta ship skills (the ones about beating lvl x fleets in opsi with the ship in the fleet)

[stark quiver]

i think so
but you should proabably try it

[fast steppe]

seems like they do

well that's a hack for farming skill xp quick ig

[polar lion]

Where are the rest of your La9s?

[stark quiver]

ive heard of someone going into a c2
placing a fleet onto the red lightning node and farming with the other so it infinitely farms xp

[fast steppe]

it works for skill xp but not for actual ship xp

because the spawned ones don't seem to give actual xp from what i've seen

[stark quiver]

yeh

[fast steppe]

skill xp has the daily cap anyway doesn't it

what level is c2 anyway you need a level 100 enemy for efficiency

[stark quiver]

it was either c2 or 3 idk i havent done it

[rustic flint]

Need help on ch.12

[left wasp]

What are some good boss tanks that aren't limited or aren't research ships?

Because all I'm trying to do is set up 4 tanks for Opsi

I've already been using Kala for mob fleet (tho I've heard she's good for bosses too)
And I have Anchorage, just haven't leveled her skills yet

Kron is also good

[dreamy blade]

Minneapolis Portland Anchorage and prinz heinrich work, but from your dock I probably wouldn't worry too much about optimizing all 4 opsi fleets

I believe admiral hipper meta is a decent tank too but I'm not sure

[left wasp]

I've heard Heinrich is good
But I'm not sure how good for bosses

[dreamy blade]

Not as good as anchorage

[left wasp]

Anchorage is like the standard (already using her for my 2nd boss fleet)
I've already used Kala for mob fleet
Kron for 1st boss fleet
It's the 3rd mob fleet I'm concerned abt but that's why I'm waiting for Agir bp

[split gazelle]

You should only need 1 mob fleet, rest should be bb/cv fleets

[left wasp]

Whoops I meant to say 3rd boss fleet but yeah

[dreamy blade]

Yeah but what are you actually going to use the 4th fleet for is what I'm saying, idk what your main fleet options are but better to have 2 stacked boss fleets than 3 weak boss fleets

[left wasp]

I wonder if it's better to keep the focus on HE or AP, or you can mix/max shell dmg

[dreamy blade]

I use 2 boss fleets for pretty much everything, IJN cv for heavy/medium and triple BB for light

[left wasp]

Because I'm trying to think of what backline to use as I now have a bunch of MLB BBs
NJ, Lion, Fdg, Ulrich, Zwei, Alsace

That's 2 boss fleets already

[dreamy blade]

I didn't know bc collab ship but apparently yume minami is tankier than those other options I mentioned

[left wasp]

Tf

[dreamy blade]

According to mebot ehp

UVH fdg and NJ are just worse than lion zwei alsace,

I'd probably stick UVH and NJ in your 4th fleet at least for crossfleets I guess

[left wasp]

I usually use her for my 2nd mlb fleet for event farm but I'll consider it

[stark quiver]

thats 2 subpar bossfleets in modern standards
use at most 3 boss fleets

It’s usually just 1 boss 1 mob for me
You might be able to do that too
or 2 boss 1 mob 1 crossfleet, theres like no situation youd use a 4th unless you dont gear your ships

[left wasp]

Then what's even considered 'good' these days
Because I'm not sure what to use if 90% of my box is 'sub-par'

[slow fox]

rare backline ehp mention

[left wasp]

That's the thing, my gear box is trash since I usually don't touch opsi or haven't paid attention to event shops with good gear

Which is why I'm usually asking for opsi comp suggestions just to farm the special tokens

Anyways I'm unsure how to get more of those opsi tickets you can use in the exchange shop after opsi resets

[wind hazel]

just do daily missions, use your APs daily, do stronghold weekly or complete them at end of month, complete hiddens, abyssals and arbiter at the end of month. you'll get 10-14k if you do these every month

[normal cedar]

what's the next non ur rerun? there was a message listing all due reruns here I think

[dreamy blade]

Clemenceau I think

[wind hazel]

yoink

[stark quiver]

probably ryza

[normal cedar]

what about Attilio Regolo event? its missing from that message?

[left wasp]

When is the next new UR event that's not a rerun?

[stark quiver]

september prob

[left wasp]

Hmm anyways I'm not sure how to clear explorable nodes faster
Ik strategic search is a thing but it keeps saying there's no visible explorable targets

[wind hazel]

ask blaster

[wind hazel]

either -5k oil to automate it or manually request recon on every explorable every 30mins, or manually click like a mad man

[left wasp]

How do I do the 5k oil thing

[cobalt robin]

Exchange shop

[left wasp]

Ohh
I thought it was opsi tickets

[cobalt robin]

Nope it costs 5k oil

It's a convenient thing, if you want to

[split gazelle]

~~i used it on my alt because excess oil.. I don't find it useful at all lol. it doesn't even unlock shop fully ~~

[cobalt robin]

I'd rather buy ap with that 5k oil instead

And whoever told me to buy the hidden zone logger, count your days

[gray obsidian]

it depends on the player. I often buy it because it allows auto-explore. I afk those maps while I work

[split gazelle]

that's a fair point yeah

[left wasp]

Welp ig my best bet is to leave it on mob fleet and keep the corrosion level at where I want it to be

[restive mural]

Hello friends, is there a way to check the morale value of shipgirls without assigning in dorm?

[cobalt robin]

Fleet

[restive mural]

I dont see it, am I at the right screen?

[cobalt robin]

Also you don't have to put them in the dorm,you can just check by being in the select me menu or the select menu in fleet

[split gazelle]

this is one way to do it, go to your dock and sort by morale

[cobalt robin]

Go in the select menu

[restive mural]

Oh sweet!

[restive mural]

Oh i get what you meant now! I see it while selecting

[split gazelle]

tbf its weird it doesn't show automatically in dock lol

[cobalt robin]

Yea

[restive mural]

Yeah, i tried playing with showing stats and it didnt show

[split gazelle]

yeah the only thing it automatically shows is if they're low morale iirc

[cobalt robin]

Should show in dock, little quality of life feature

[restive mural]

Oh i see, correct me im wrong.
My understanding is, morales drop after every sortie(or every battle), the only way to recover morale is to wait it out.
Expansion of 2nd floor in dorm speeds up morale recovery, while 1st floor has exp and slower morale recovery

So on average, its around a 2hr wait for morale to be raised back to an optimal level?

[cobalt robin]

Yea sums it up

[clear stump]

So when you obtain a ship+L120, all ships within the same class gain passive boost?

[split gazelle]

yes

[gaunt cedar]

is it fine to get agir first instead of hakuryuu if i need better vanguard?

[hollow gust]

although PR1 should generally be more then enough for most of your needs

[fast steppe]

is lion strong enough to take on 12-4 bosses with 2 other levelling ships in the backline

[reef flume]

Yes

[hollow gust]

You don't even need a carry

[fast steppe]

is it still a good idea to have a separate levelling fleet for bossing though? soumet is always on the verge of dying after the mobbing's done

[hollow gust]

Whatever survives

[barren token]

Opsi question: If I get fast enough ships will I be able to create a fleet able to move 4 tiles?

[fast steppe]

what's the bare minimum for levels that i need for a 12-4 bossing fleet on safe anyway

[hollow gust]

it's entirely dependent on your fleets. If die then you don't run in boss

[left wasp]

Hmm
so now I wonder why most ships struggle in EX stages while only very few "excel" in them

at least according to the AL endgme rankings

Because it's interesting to see a shipgirl have a lower ranking on almost everything
then they're like S or SS on EX stages

[cobalt rapids]

because EX is quite different

scoring on EX is a combination of both fleetpower and ttk
so now lv1 ships are taken into consideration for it

look at hiei for example
her value would barely change from lv1 to lv120 because its concentrated in her buff
while in a typical opsi fleet or other content u wouldnt care about her because :

1. its only a first strike thing and then its so rng tis basically non existent
2. her contribution vs a typical UR would be lower anyway even for a first strike
   but now when u compare her value as lv1 to a lv125 UR because fleet power impacts your score her overall contribution is much greater to your score
   ofc u cannot run a full fleet of lv1s but yea

[left wasp]

wait
EX scores are lower
the more fleet power you have

[cobalt rapids]

yeap

[left wasp]

???????????
I have no idea why the devs went with that but ok ig

[hollow gust]

Just turn it down

[boreal wagon]

to be clear its the sum of power of the ships you actually used not the entirety of your dock
both are called fleet power

[left wasp]

at least it makes a unique situation where you can't just go "unga bunga" with your best UR ships

[cobalt rapids]

EX score =10*(5000/(48+timetokill)^0.36 - fleetpower^0.6)

[left wasp]

thus leading to shenanigans like this

I never knew Cleveland had a niche use in EX stages

[cobalt rapids]

i mean its just assault order
kent works the same

[pearl hare]

Would kearsarge be good for making an eagle union cv focused fleet?

[muted crescent]

Ranger as well ☠️

[worthy sage]

Hi everyone, need help.

I'm stuck on 4-4 with team comp of Nelson, Unicorn, Lexington, Portland, Helena, Laffey, all level 50+. What should I do? Not sure if I'm lacking in the gear department, but then guides all say don't farm for gear so idk how to continue

[fast steppe]

i'm wondering where the extra damage even comes from - the recommended comp on the vanguard doesn't seem to provide any damage buffers that i'm not already using and the only difference as far as i can tell is just rld tech + 2 hvarcats vs 1 hvarcat 1 skyraider

is it all in fritz's loadout + rld

[paper ore]

it could be a gear thing

and amount of times helena procs

having more +13 gear would help. and if helena doesnt proc even once the damage dealt will be lower

[fast steppe]

oh right helena doesn't survive long enough for the last proc at 4s

lion gun is +12 mk7 +13 skyraider +13 but hvarcat +10

[paper ore]

can you shoot a 4th salvo

with a fire control radar

or do you have admiralty table

[fast steppe]

table on lion hsfcr on alsace

i can shoot a 4th but don't think all the salvos are getting launched

(1 bb rld tech)

[paper ore]

it definitely wont with 1 reload tech yeah. I would make the table +13 and white bullets +13 if you have them and use them

for AA on all 3 you can use the new UR AA gun from eagle union

[fast steppe]

both are +13

[paper ore]

do you have trafalgar, and eldridge retrofit?

those can help a lot with vanguard damage as well as survival

[fast steppe]

no eldridge refit trafalgar is 0lb

what does trafalgar do here other than the slow tho

does the slow just make subsequent salvos more likely to hit or smth

anyway here's equips

[split gazelle]

https://azurlane.yo-star.com/news/2025/07/09/maintenance-notice-7-10-12-a-m-utc-7/

[hollow gust]

Just pump some more levels

[robust nymph]

i just did an event mission (read the story) and gave me 0 points, how so?

[wind hazel]

important eva debuff

without it your attacks are missing, hence the lower damage

aurora is a substitute. or chapayev

[paper ore]

how would a vanguard comprised of aurora, ply and trafalgar be like. assuming you can keep all of them alive till end of battle

[wind hazel]

you dont use both aurora or traf. you use only one of them

[hollow gust]

Kawawa meta?

[wind hazel]

eldridge+aurora/traf+ply/z52

[paper ore]

ohhhh. ok

[wind hazel]

i assume so, those comp looks like for kwkz

otherwise idk what they are doing

[fast steppe]

yeah this is for kwkz

[paper ore]

its for kawa yes

[robust nymph]

SP event has increasing difficulty from 1st battle to 4th?

damn the feeling of progression is insane, when i got back to the game couple weeks ago i didnt have a single chance of even seeing the third boss

how does converting work exactly and when should you do it? i have to do it for a quest so im trying to figure out if its a bad idea

[ivory pawn]

Conversion gives you more stats compared to what it currently has, up to the max.

So it can take you anywhere from 1-9 crystals to max Hood’s augment.

At some point you might end up with enough of the crystals to just do it on every relevant augment. Hood’s is very relevant, so I’d say it’s worth doing.

[robust nymph]

more hits = good?

[split gazelle]

yeah, idk why they added a keep old action but always use new

[robust nymph]

ty, also should i prio hood's or sandy

[wind hazel]

what other BB do you have

leaning towards sandy more since you already got her retro as well

[wind hazel]

but you're already halfway on hood's aug

yeah ok drop hood, idk why you still using her LOL

[robust nymph]

i also am +5 on sandy already

[robust nymph]

is 2 BB fleet bad? i use warspite and hood for boss fleet and zenker in mob fleet rn

[wind hazel]

not really

but you can raise another CV

or even Nelson, or look into PR farm and prep your backline

[robust nymph]

these are my cvs rn

[wind hazel]

yea just drop hood from your campaign fleet, remove illustrious too. use graf, raise another one like Hiryuu, start look into your faction tech

i see saratoga's ahoge too

[robust nymph]

oh damn really, is it because graf and hiryuu are just straight up better ships?

[wind hazel]

no it's because your hood and illustrious are lv120 already

anymore is wasted exp on them, so raise someone that needs the exp

[robust nymph]

ahh okay well fair enough

[wind hazel]

eventually you want to slowly replace your warspite too

[robust nymph]

is formidable fine too?

[wind hazel]

eh, not MLB

[robust nymph]

i can easily get her mlb i have a ton of bulins

[wind hazel]

if you need HMS tech, sure. but your shoukaku is 1LB as well, and tomorrow she gets her augment, might worth look into it

[robust nymph]

shoukaku plays well with zuikaku? id need to have them both?

[wind hazel]

it doesn't matter for exp farming

can use them alone

[robust nymph]

oh i see but my point was, if i get something to 120 maybe they can be useful eventually (like this event for example i had to fill 4 fleets and it was tough cause i dont have many ships)

so maybe i could level both at that point

[wind hazel]

yeah sure

if you got spare core data, you can consider getting independence from core shop

strong ship that remain relevant until end game

cheaper to invest than any of the above too

[forest palm]

do we know what faction(s) Gouden will required

[wind hazel]

i will tell you tomorrow

[forest palm]

could just answer no like a normal person

[robust nymph]

noted, will check shortly

[wind oxide]

Uhh isnt it mentioned in the chinese wiki?
it said Sardegna and IB

[forest palm]

[wind hazel]

link

[plain saffron]

it's IB trsut me

[wind hazel]

i trust you

saratoga enjoyer never lie

[wind oxide]

some guy sent it here wait lemme check

[forest palm]

son of abitch it's in the tweet

[wind oxide]

What?

[forest palm]

https://x.com/azurlane_staff/status/1942546707423928601

[wind hazel]

Translate!

[turbid marsh]

gouden - kms pizza

[wind hazel]

wow dev truly amazing, putting ship info in ship's art... devs are based, im dumb

[turbid marsh]

meck - kms, of course. the rest would be russians, eagles, pizza

[wind oxide]

😭 ohh ok

[forest palm]

when the tits are hiding the real information

[pseudo sandal]

https://azurlane.jp/news/694 was posted here first

[wind hazel]

ty

[woven star]

what doing here Saratoga? Augment?

[turbid marsh]

trying to fit in as one of the big milkers i guess?

[plain saffron]

saratoga is everywhere

not like she's the face of the game or something

[forest palm]

well now that depends on the region

[woven star]

it's a sign

[wind oxide]

She's akashi 2.0
we get her after first recharge too

[plain saffron]

that means EN is irrelevant

[viscid swift]

well she needs IB and Italian tech

[wind hazel]

Noshiro IJN leader fr

[turbid marsh]

she's the flag for eagles as of current story though

[viscid swift]

so I imagine those 2

[forest palm]

wow, Mori someone that does their homework

[plain saffron]

she had enough after wathing the leaders fight

[wind hazel]

you're asking like you would give a fuck who would they require when you have almost every ship almost 120, lol

[forest palm]

yesn't, it's information I'd like to be privy to regardless of that fact

[plain saffron]

just ask after datamine

[forest palm]

[plain saffron]

||by after i mean 8 hours after bcs for sure i'll be busy with work||

or ask lars

[viscid swift]

CN will probably have it in their datamine

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure they use that picture for everything

[wind hazel]

more interested in the quad bb gun

[wind oxide]

Huh? do u think they'd tighten the spread?

Every quad is 22*22 it'd be good if they did

[woven star]

I thought that spread is not best thing in AL

as wider as less damage target gets

[plain saffron]

what if the boss is super big

or maybe 2x2

[wind oxide]

Gojira?

[woven star]

what was the names of first BMs... they were like big circle\island on water... yeah

like this....Novgorod

[forest palm]

#history would have an answer

[wind oxide]

Should i do an 8 hour cognitive research?

[woven star]

yeah, it was rhetorical question about wide ships and spread. offtop

[turbid marsh]

you should not. you can, but you should not.

[robust nymph]

forgive ping, i was looking at the ships there, for only 300 more wouldnt illustrious muse be a better option?

nvm she's tier0 according to the tier list

[wind oxide]

Muse ships arent even good

[turbid marsh]

i mean illu muse is a decent ship, but independance is on another level

[robust nymph]

purple border indicates elite rarity ship?

[wind oxide]

ye

[turbid marsh]

yes and you can retrofit to gold

[robust nymph]

saratoga is also decent it seems? damn i kept her lvl1 for so long

[split gazelle]

one of the better early-accessible ships

[silk helm]

where to find the armor types of bosses in ex

[delicate ridge]

Guys is meta is good

[turbid marsh]

meta as in the fraction or meta as in tierlist

if fraction, good in lore, not that high priority in game XD

[delicate ridge]

Whoa 😧

[turbid marsh]

yeah in lore they kinda destroying enemies XD

[delicate ridge]

I got Grenville meta is she good to use?

[turbid marsh]

purple meta = trash

any meta should be low priority at your stage

[delicate ridge]

oh ok

[woven star]

not sure GrenvileM good in any case unless some one told opposite point

[robust nymph]

whats the preferred one here?

[woven star]

KawaM maybe better. at least good torp stats

[split gazelle]

F4U > F6F > Seafang

[robust nymph]

damn..

[wind oxide]

Still waiting for suchiguma to make a video of kawa meta testing

[onyx chasm]

Finally finished researching FDG do i go for agir now or just wait

[robust nymph]

just curious but why's graf higher power with worse gear and just 1lvl difference?

[wind oxide]

Yea go for agir if you have the tech points who u waiting for

[robust nymph]

a max lb mb

[onyx chasm]

I was waiting for the PR 8's coming tmrw but yh

[viscid swift]

fleet power is not a good metric for determining actual combat performance

[viscid swift]

conisdering that you won't have enough BPs for any of the PR8 ships tomorrow or even in a week

[robust nymph]

yeah i noticed that giving gold gear makes the value inflate but some gold gear is just bad so

[wind oxide]

it's not even a priority for u breh

[onyx chasm]

Never said it was I was just asking if i should wait to see if any are worth grinding for

[undone plover]

Also your formi is missing a limit break level (the stars)
Which explains the stat difference
But like cheeky said power is useless

[robust nymph]

speaking of how if theyre both CVs the gear equippable is different between the 2? (formidable and graf)

in the 2nd slot

[undone plover]

Because they have different slots
There are 3 plane types and different CV have different loadouts

[viscid swift]

who said CVs all had to use the same equipment loadouts

[fallen jay]

Ok what should I be buying from the guild shop now that I have Unicorn Helena and Pennsylvania mlb?

[undone plover]

Btw u want to give graf an iron blood plane because of her skill as well
Change her dive bomber slot to the junker plane

[woven star]

and maybe if you have Peter Strasser I'll focus on her instead of Graf. She little bit better become plus better tech points. Other way Graf mlb alrdy

[fallen jay]

Or what ships should I be buying from the guild shop? Just any new girls I don’t have to fill out collection for the shipyard points?

[robust nymph]

yea i dont have her

honestly im leveling graf just to help complete agir xp combat data

[woven star]

Unicorn, Helena, Pensilvania?

others for tech points

[viscid swift]

the rest are just tech really

[wind oxide]

rather save your guild coins for resets or upgrading guild tech

[woven star]

and golden part upgrade

[onyx chasm]

Quick question... Is Agir not a vanguard ship?

[viscid swift]

she is

[onyx chasm]

So when it asks for iron blood main fleet ships, does it mean backline ships or ships in the fleet as a whole

[viscid swift]

it means main fleet ships

[ivory pawn]

As a CB, she needs backline for first part, and frontline for second.

[pseudo hearth]

Main Fleet = Backline Ships

[grizzled sundial]

So uh , is there stats for the upcoming quad UR ?

[onyx chasm]

So ppl like bismark and FDG and such..

[wind oxide]

backline

[viscid swift]

no, wait for the datamine

[onyx chasm]

Ffs bro and here i thought i was free from using peter in the back

[fallen jay]

Since I have those main 3 limitbroken to max I should just buy a copy of each of the ships that say new then right?

[novel solstice]

Backline.
CBs are the biggest vanguard ship, they're sort of a hybrid between CAs and BCs, so they need a set of vanguard XP and a set of backline XP.

[onyx chasm]

Can I just stick FDG in her place to try get some levels out of her?

[viscid swift]

something like that yes

[viscid swift]

oh boy

[woven star]

don't be so fast. dock space not so wide

[viscid swift]

Battleship and Heavy Cruiser

Battlecruisers are another can of worms entirely

[pseudo hearth]

CBs like Agir are unique as they have one XP grind node that uses backline and another one that uses Frontline.

[fallen jay]

Ok also how do I really get into Siren ops? Cause I’m currently stuck and unable to change the team I have in it. It’s Hood Unicorn Saratoga Portland Helena and Z23

[onyx chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[ivory pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[viscid swift]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-operation-siren-fleet-gif-26809076

[onyx chasm]

The fact there are gifs for this is crazy work ngl

[pseudo hearth]

When people ask the same question enough times...

[onyx chasm]

Yeah 😔

[ivory pawn]

I’m amazed to learn there are two.

[woven star]

btw free fleet change once per day.

[robust nymph]

to be honest its not really intuitive the ui and everything

[pseudo hearth]

In whose place?

[onyx chasm]

Peter strassen, but realising I haven't fully coined her and she's level 70 i was just gonna continue with peter and bismark in main fleet

[woven star]

I think it was at some tutorial picture....read and after skip

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, what Dev Level is FdG at?

And what stage are you farming XP on?

[onyx chasm]

halfway through 19, and I've been domesticating enemies on 12-1

[pseudo hearth]

You mentioned Bisk (I'm guessing OG Bisk) and Peter. Who's your 3rd ship?

[onyx chasm]

No i mean Zwei (3rd ship is uni)

[pseudo hearth]

Ok, who's the 3rd ship though?

Oh, is 12-1 at safe yet?

[fallen jay]

I’m sorry for bothering you guys about it. But in my defense I’m very stoop. Not stupid just stoop

So for siren ops I should use the same teams you made for general campaign mob and boss fleets right?

[pseudo hearth]

Have you ground 12-1 enough that it's at Safe yet?

[onyx chasm]

Seeing as i just got fdg completed i'll give you 2 guesses

[warped acorn]

guesses

[woven star]

For beginning I think yes. You don't have a lot of 110-120 ships yet?

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, you don't need to grind it that much for it to be at Safe

[onyx chasm]

So by that logic.... Yes it is in fact safe...

[tame jungle]

just say "yes it's safe" corny ass

[onyx chasm]

So much so that they probably try and hide from me whenever i pull my ships into their area

[woven star]

Usually ships for opsi have 4 fleets: mob fast/ level up ships; bb fleet bosses and second with cv; and last for cross fleet skill

[fallen jay]

Ok so the siren ops fleet building screen is different how do I know which ship is going where?

I just really want to make sure I get everything set up right since it’s only free once a day

[woven star]

Left one from 3 first - flag ship, 4th main vanguard tank and rest

[onyx chasm]

But yh jokes aside i don't have issues with clearing so yh. Only issue i'd have are trying to figure out how I'd have her get mvp if i wanted to prioritise her levels over the exp (which i wouldn't)

[pseudo hearth]

The reason I'm asking is because at Safe you can get away with not running Uni as long as your Frontline is strong enough

[woven star]

Don't forget in 3rd slot unicorn- it helps a lot vs mobs

[onyx chasm]

I mean if my frontline is too strong then mvp won't go to zwei

Which i kinda need in order to get that main fleet exp

[fallen jay]

So like this setup? In that order?

Fleet 1 is mob fleet 2 is boss?

For siren ops.

Ok before I deploy the fleet do I need to buy anything from the resupplt to stock up or buff up my units?

[woven star]

do you set cats?

[fallen jay]

I set cats yes

[woven star]

And btw using adjustments tab - you can move you fleet composition

[fallen jay]

Adjustments tab?

[woven star]

feels normal

adjust or how it's call

ah, sry, maybe no this in opsi

[fallen jay]

So how do I go through Siren Ops properly? Cause I don’t really know what I’m doing. The tutorial I think it’s over.

[wind hazel]

are you still in story?

[woven star]

clean all map (world map). you still in tutorial. cos after u'll get options to have 4 fleet

[fallen jay]

I think so?

[rapid summit]

Do commission ship exp count towards research academy?

[wind hazel]

do what the story tells you to do, complete until at least chapter 4 story

[fallen jay]

So just go anywhere and everywhere on the siren ops map?

[woven star]

you must clear map until get in center where big boss - arbiter and kill him

[fallen jay]

I don’t even know wheee to find what chapter I’m on in siren ops

[warped acorn]

who to change for proper mob and boss fleet (position)

[wind hazel]

it should be in your information tab

go to any blue port and look where you are

[fallen jay]

Uh how do I find blue ports? I only see yellow ports?

[wind hazel]

near the edge of the map

there are like 4 different blue ports, one at each direction SW NW NE SE

[woven star]

show the whole map. I rly don't remember how it all starts

[fallen jay]

The thing with the anchor right? Cause I went in and it doesn’t have anything under missions

[wind hazel]

go to the green [!]

[fallen jay]

Thank you. I’ll go through it best I can

[woven star]

yeah. follow green ~~rebit ~~'!'

[wind hazel]

this is example of what you would see in the info tab

[fallen jay]

Sorry for asking all these stupid questions. I just get really confused not being used to any of these things

[wind hazel]

ye dw opsi is confusing for every new player

[fallen jay]

Holy crap one enemy and my mob fleet is almost entirely dead…

[viscid swift]

unless you're running some really strong vanguards then that shouldn't be the case

you'd have to really try for a main fleet, let alone a UR BB not to get MvP

[fallen jay]

Yeah Siren ops is super difficult

Any advice for me? Cause my main team just got flattened

[viscid swift]

better fleets, better gear, more adapts

[wind hazel]

put the fleet2 vanguard on your mob fleet

[fallen jay]

Ok so I lied a little bit

[wind hazel]

dont spread out your fleet yet, your 2nd fleet isn't ready, just leave fleet2 as requirement. focus on grouping strong fleet on your mob team

[uncut adder]

You'll see the pattern eventually. The higher points needed to open/visit one, the crazier the enemies

[fallen jay]

My fleet didn’t kill even one enemy. I sent both fleets at one enemy after another and they both failed to take it down. Both fleets are down 4 members and it’s last 2 on each is at less than a 1/3 of its full health

Yeah I got steam rolled badly

[narrow kiln]

As I've seen, 90% of the time, until you reach really difficult zones, you need to make the most powerful fleet possible, and the rest can just exist.
Can someone give a more accurate opinion on the correctness of this theory?

[viscid swift]

really depends on the fleets and options

[fallen jay]

Wait so I have to do a full redeploy to switch those 3 vanguards to the other team?!

[tropic tusk]

so no new level right ? only pr8

[wind oxide]

lmfao

[tropic tusk]

cant make up his mind

[eternal basalt]

New level???

[viscid swift]

yes

[tropic tusk]

new story* xD sorry

[wind oxide]

Shoukaku thousand cranes crying augment? dayumm

[narrow kiln]

Only Enforcer could stop me with such an attitude. Well, and auto-cleaning of 6 corrosion zones.
(repairing half-dead ships outside of combat is a really good idea)

[viscid swift]

why would they release a new chapter now?

[eternal basalt]

August for new story, rerun this month

[tropic tusk]

i have no idea thats y im asking

[wind oxide]

Dude.....

[viscid swift]

well know in future, they release new main campaign chapters in October

[tropic tusk]

Ohhh thats nice

[eternal basalt]

New chapter != new story

[tropic tusk]

really?

[robust nymph]

which one is the dive bomber slot and what is junker plane?

[fallen jay]

So is progress for new people like me slow?

[wind oxide]

Dive bomber slot has dive bomber written in the slot

[novel solstice]

It's the slot(s) that takes dive bombers.
Plane loadouts vary by carrier; frequently it is fighter - dive bomber - torpedo bomber, but there are carriers that have a universal slot that can take any type of plane, carriers with two fighter slots, etc.

[robust nymph]

welp the best iron blood plane i have seems to be this not sure if its worth it lol

[wind hazel]

faer meant this one

[narrow kiln]

If you look, there is an aircraft carrier without fighters, and Chinese elite aircraft carriers...
As a continuation included in the phrase "etc."

[silk helm]

where to find the armor types of bosses in ex

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

[clear stump]

Ambush enemies typically give lower tier rewards yes?

[soft raft]

Honestly dunno
eventually you'll get to a point where you dont get ambushed at all so I dont think it's anything worth worrying about too much

[ivory pawn]

Most of the rewards are from the boss fight, so just try to evade all ambushes.

[narrow kiln]

Am I right in understanding that in the "hidden" zones of OpSi there is no reward from the enemies that appear?

[ivory pawn]

Correct. Just rush the spawn points.

[left cedar]

on a very basis, almost everything gives low quantity and quality rewards, and cat spots are the real deal for normal content, with them u can fish a R4-6 Abyss or a Hidden and in hidden fish a Abyss ... the thing is, u wanna more Abyss fights for better rewards, more luck u have with them, better will be ur month amount and quality...

[eager mulch]

[sweet delta]

That's a lot of words to say "just get lucky"

[turbid marsh]

be better*

[viscid swift]

oh yeah esdeath, did some more digging and yeah, Mecklenburg is a copy pasta FDG hull in WoWs with different guns, superstructure, and secondaries

[left cedar]

so is a basically a H-39 in different machines and tactical use ?

[viscid swift]

something like that

[storm olive]

Also has torps