gameplay-help

[storm olive]

When used with traf and ply, would I use lion flag for ply buff or BZ flag to have her benefit from traf buff

[wind oxide]

Prob because her buff to lion

Coz aurora does more eva debuff than traf

[boreal temple]

iirc from w14 below I only needed to full clear one time and for the rest of the attempts to clear the stage I can just beeline to the boss fleet when available and that would get me 3stars, but I seem to be unable to do that for w15

do I need to full clear twice now to get the mob clear star?

[muted wind]

that has never been a thing, you always had to kill mobs on all attempts. 100%-ed campaign hard mode stages let you immediately attack the boss

[crimson glacier]

i think you are confused

[boreal temple]

Givr me time to properly word it out my brain isn't working

[crimson glacier]

i mean i get what you are asking, i just dont know

[muted wind]

is this specifically about the "defeat all enemies" optional objective?

[crimson glacier]

yes, he is asking if he needs to kill any extra mobs after doing the full clear

or can he just rush the boss on every other clear

[whole crypt]

you can always do that it's just you may need more than the clears needed for 100% to clear however many mob nodes

[muted wind]

uh, so, i'll just guess and assume the missing the star is not that then. so... you only need to do a full clear once, but that may not be enough to also hit the "defeat escort fleet" target by the time you get 100%. that said, you can always just do more runs to get that after. no need to full clear multiple times

[whole crypt]

if you need more than one full clear you missed a mob in one of those clears

[brave trail]

been neglecting my submarine fleet for years so i need help creating one

[south sequoia]

show your subs

[brave trail]

one sec

i can MLB them if need

[south sequoia]

u81 u96 u37

[brave trail]

[whole crypt]

the 3 you're on now is the best set you have

[warped acorn]

the u-sub could be any in a team?

[brave trail]

who should i put as flag

[crimson glacier]

what do you mean

[whole crypt]

any 3 sr ubotes would work but some are better

[crimson glacier]

i believe 96 mid

[warped acorn]

like i currently has 37 and 96

[whole crypt]

81 mid

[warped acorn]

what should be the third one

[whole crypt]

who do you have

[warped acorn]

only purples

[split gazelle]

you can get u-81 from the summer voucher if you haven't spent it already

[crimson glacier]

probably the one that looks like portland

[whole crypt]

96 mid is an old wives' tale about her barrage but practically you want the highest torpers mid for dmg

[warped acorn]

oh

37 81 96 as a sub fleet then?

[split gazelle]

or you could wait until you need subs and hope in the meantime you get u-101

[warped acorn]

dont think am getting 101 anytime soon

but well, atleast a target to dump those purins on

[whole crypt]

you could also not need subs any time soon

[warped acorn]

true...

[split gazelle]

14-3 is where you start to need subs right?

[boreal temple]

if you're stacked enough you can clear it subless

[whole crypt]

you don't need subs anywhere

[split gazelle]

oh I see

[boreal temple]

subs just makes it easier

[novel solstice]

You don't technically need them at any point. They help to clear hard bosses starting whenever you could use a damage bump, though.

[crimson glacier]

it is massive difference tho

[split gazelle]

is it just for extra damage or to take care of enemy subs? or both I guess lol

[crimson glacier]

subs cant attack other subs

[novel solstice]

Subs do nothing about enemy subs, their shots literally cannot hit enemy subs.

You kill enemy subs with DD/CL vanguard ships, ideally with the hedgehog aux. If necessary you put an ASW plane on unicorn to help out.

[whole crypt]

they're usually used as supplementary damage in late stages, particularly with out of ammo fights

[split gazelle]

I see. Learn something new everyday

[turbid dawn]

Has anyone else been having issues with the VG for this current meta fight dying with like 20s left? It happened once yesterday and twice out of the 5 today. This is what I’m running and all 3 VG ships have double HP aux

[wind hazel]

i run eldridge tank

[cobalt rapids]

aurora should be running rudder and albion report not double hp aux
and i hope one of the eldr aux is manjuu
also i run eldr tank and had no issues dying but mine are oathed at 125

[turbid dawn]

Yeah Eld has TB and Manjuu, Z52 you can see below, and what is Albion report?

[boreal temple]

albion report purple hms aux

[whole crypt]

mine are z52/traf/eld unoathed and I've not had a single premature end so far

[wind hazel]

you've been lucky

[turbid dawn]

So this and Eld tank should be fine you think?

[whole crypt]

statistics demand I'll eventually run into one, yes

rudder 13 if you can

[cobalt rapids]

give them slash augs to delete bullets but yes its still rng but it should at least improve her surv

[cobalt rapids]

traf has naturally better surv than aurora so thats expected

[whole crypt]

yeh but the difference shouldn't be 20s on the clock

[undone plover]

Raffa could stabilize the vanguard but u might suffer on backline dmg I think

[wind hazel]

20s is really unlucky run

[cobalt rapids]

that is true

[whole crypt]

bane's sounding like he regularly loses 20s early

[wind hazel]

he's regularly unlucky

[cobalt rapids]

fr

[wind hazel]

it's usually the last 10s

[crimson glacier]

would tech make a difference

[whole crypt]

augs could be part of it I guess

tech could be since I'm max

[cobalt rapids]

both tech and oath make yes

[crimson glacier]

i just copied the mori fleet and its 100% kill rate atm

[wind hazel]

100% so far for me too

[whole crypt]

which one is mori using

[cobalt rapids]

i mean trafic one is very consistent
but some ppl need aurora for dmg

[crimson glacier]

i just dislike giving that gun to traf

[cobalt rapids]

mori ure better off with 100kai on eldr

[wind hazel]

76 does the same i think

[crimson glacier]

i mean that i think all single shot DD guns are lame

[wind hazel]

rice says 113 is better for killing clone, idk how true is that but so far this is working good so im sticking to this setup for the moment

[cobalt rapids]

its kinda cope
i look at a few runes and eldr aoa lined up with clones maybe once
and they die anyway to vanguard and fritz guns in like 5s

[rapid grail]

is there no need to get tenrais nowadays? assuming a starter account that had just bought 1 tenrai from protocore shop

[cobalt rapids]

100kai now has 100% burnchance tho

[crimson glacier]

tenrai still as good as ever

[wind hazel]

isnt it 2k extra damage

[whole crypt]

starters shouldn't be buying tenrai first though

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[crimson glacier]

yeah its not that important

but it never was

[dreamy blade]

dive bombers be like

[storm olive]

Is tenrai or skyraider better Vs med, I don't remember

[rapid grail]

its a hypothetical; assuming that account wants to do opsi cv bossing

[stark quiver]

Skyraider iirc

[crimson glacier]

its still not important early

[cobalt rapids]

but yea its not worth sacking like 20-30k eldr dmg for that aoa cope

[rapid grail]

or is just getting that tenrai + using golddivers for the other relevant DB slots ok for that content?

[cobalt rapids]

no1 should craft goldivers

[crimson glacier]

golddiver is complete waste of resources

[rapid grail]

Ah ok then, so just helldivers

[whole crypt]

you can consider buying the tenrai when your CVs are actually up, Amagi not available now anyway and Hakuryuu is going to take like 2 month or so

[fierce walrus]

32, theres 8 free slots but I dont need them, we need sell option

[cobalt rapids]

if u feel like ure done with cats just dont raise any more

[wind hazel]

surely not that much difference

[whole crypt]

feed them to each other to waste xp if you need to free up slots

[rapid grail]

isn't enhancing (read: sacrificing) cats how you level up cats? as well as skills (for dupe cats)

[stark quiver]

Surely 32 aren’t all perfect, so just feed a leveled cat to a good starting roll cat to try and cope a perfect cat

[cobalt rapids]

how much is ur eldr dmg

mine is consistently 80-90k

[wind hazel]

last run tested on 100kai

[fierce walrus]

They are at this point, we need sell option

I'll write feedback

[wind hazel]

last 3 run on 113

[dreamy blade]

so you feed 7 of them to the 8th one ?

[stark quiver]

32 purrfect cats
I don’t thumb the game devs care about the feedback channel

[stark quiver]

I do agree we need a sell option , but

[wind hazel]

this was the lowest from my ss folder

[whole crypt]

I mean yes it'd be nice to be able to discard/sell cats but if you actually have 32 perfect cats the shit's whatever

[dreamy blade]

also if you have all the perfect cats you could ever need why would you need more cats

[fierce walrus]

They do when I wrote about adding a guild track option to see who does what in there they added it next update, when I asked them to improve guild applications we got 3 new members in the next week, so they do listen

[whole crypt]

I'm just saying it's a nice option but it's also a whatever option

[stark quiver]

Manjuu being a good boy

[whole crypt]

plus they want to sell cattery slots

[stark quiver]

My eld does almost 100k

[wind hazel]

p2w eld

[cobalt rapids]

around this with mog gun

[wind hazel]

i know you oath for pvp def

[stark quiver]

Eld with 100 kai

[wind hazel]

ah i guess you run z52

[dense eagle]

for the black rock shooter event does attacking higher campaign levels givey ou higher trust>?

[wind oxide]

yea

[cobalt rapids]

oh u run ply

[wind hazel]

yeah lol

gona try flagging lion and see how much dmg she can reach, think the timing shouldn't jam her

[cobalt rapids]

z52 supremacy

[wind hazel]

i got this in one of the run, and she was off

[cobalt rapids]

the problem with flagging lion is that alsace will lose partially on traf buff

[dreamy blade]

how much is my ply supposed to be doing bc usually shes around 120-130k

[wind hazel]

is that bad

or a trade off for lion higher dmg

[cobalt rapids]

tradeoff but also :

[wind hazel]

180-200k

[wind hazel]

616

[warped acorn]

🤯

[wind oxide]

Crazy

Buffed to the peak

[whole crypt]

well VG comp

usually peaks out by 500k if Fritz

[cobalt rapids]

mine peaks below 400k with nj

[paper ore]

whats TB? Beaver Tag?

[cobalt rapids]

toolbox

[paper ore]

ah

[warped acorn]

u37 or u96 flag?

[undone plover]

Has there been a full CV one shot for this meta?

[wind oxide]

I dont think so
never seen one

[spare harbor]

What does locking a character do?

[undone plover]

It means u cant retire them by accident

Generally lock the main copy of every new ship u get

[spare harbor]

how can u retire by accident tho
misclick?

[wind hazel]

auto select on retire

quick retire moment

[stark quiver]

Alright bet

[undone plover]

Let me know if u manage

[spare harbor]

can they be unlocked

k thx

[wind hazel]

there's a setting that autolock new ship you get too, so it's safer nowadays

[undone plover]

Yeah it is a pretty universal gacha mechanic
U can lock and unlock to your heart’s content

[silk helm]

whast the middle vanguard ship?

[boreal wagon]

aurora

[atomic abyss]

/wiki aurora

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aurora
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aurora_Noctis
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aurora/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aurora/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Aurora_Noctis
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Juustagram/Aurora_Noctis
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Avrora/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Avrora
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Avrora/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Avrora/Gallery

Jun 16, 2025, 12:34 PM

[silk helm]

purple ship

[atomic abyss]

With a very pog skill

[stark quiver]

Purple power 💜 💜 💜

[craggy sorrel]

good or nah?

[whole crypt]

not bad but whether worth raising now depends on what you have and what you need

[dreamy blade]

very good specifically against DD bosses

[craggy sorrel]

she got tier 0 in slaimuda right?

[tame jungle]

that doesn't really mean anything

[turbid marsh]

she is?

[tame jungle]

with augment yes

[turbid marsh]

i know she is used in current meta, with no aug XD

[wild sinew]

After changing the lineup and swap some gear, i finally consistently one fleet kill

[whole crypt]

ectl tiers don't really mean anything because there's no use context but most fleetbuilding in the game should be context based or it's just too easy to matter

[whole crypt]

aug is good but it's not her primary contribution for this fight

[atomic abyss]

DPS is stonks lol
It's better than Mainz on DDs iirc

[whole crypt]

damage boost + eva rate debuff so yeh

[atomic abyss]

She did handily beat sandy Kai no augment

I doubt that's the case now

[turbid marsh]

i mean sandy kai got like more than 50% damage boost or something with her aug

[raven canyon]

who should i pick shimakaze, ulrich or kron?

UR exchange got full

[soft raft]

they're all roughly equally whatever so whoever is your favorite

[raven canyon]

hm

[wild sinew]

Damn... @@ what are odd of eldridge not proccing her evasion at all @@

[forest palm]

Ulrich has useful tech

[wild sinew]

That 15% failed me on my last run xD

Took alot of dmg until vg is 40% hp left then it proc

[elfin hollow]

How do you use this?

Nvm I thought it was dorm

[exotic wren]

after grabbing pr4 cept MP, i should just go to pr7 directly right?

[atomic abyss]

No, Plymouth

[exotic wren]

ye but after her, and no iris tech?

already got chkalov and harbin my bad

[keen cove]

I've got a question to ask here, since the next event that's going to be permenantly available is "Aquilifer's Ballade"... since the event "Rondo at Rainbow's End" already reran but it's not permenantly available yet? despite it reran way before "Rondo at Rainbow's End" ?

[exotic wren]

they can, and have also switched rerun orders before

[atomic abyss]

Plymouth first
Then grab just Shimanto with catch up

Then go for nakhi

[atomic abyss]

They kinda archive non UR events at random so lol

[exotic wren]

wait sorry ender, lemme send my dock

[atomic abyss]

Like it takes anywhere from like 9 months to 15

[soft raft]

do that in a thread

[exotic wren]

ik

[keen cove]

ouhh I see, if that's the case the event "Operation Convergence" should be close on getting archive then?

[atomic abyss]

I mean

As I said, random

[keen cove]

aight, random it is 😂

[exotic wren]

they can even rerun holo collab for all we know

Help

[paper ore]

you have lion oathed right? can you tell me the reload she gets when she is 200 affinity without tech? is it 202?

[slender linden]

Scripts or auto botting is prohibited right?

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships/id/138?affinity=5

[paper ore]

ohhh ty. I didnt know about this one

[atomic abyss]

I don't lol

I only oath waifus

[fair lance]

Lion gets 192 at 200

[stark quiver]

Based

[last swift]

Guys should I change Admiral Hipper META to Roon

[cobalt rapids]

with aug and d30 roon is better

[last swift]

there are almost enough stones on the aug, should I change them?

[cobalt rapids]

u might have better investments to do or u might wanna focus on pushing to w12 if arent there

[mild sail]

Faster by almost a second?
Faster shell velocity?

[cobalt rapids]

yes its a mk7 upgrade

[worldly pewter]

are u late to the party ?

[cobalt rapids]

but not at +10 vs +13

[mild sail]

I haven't check the stats until now

[last swift]

I don't have any other ships from the shipyard, and of those that need to be upgraded, the only ones left are Saratoga with the missing Augment, Ark Royal and Black Rock Shooter

[cobalt rapids]

sara and brs are more important if u use em

[last swift]

where to get this crap

[cobalt rapids]

opsi mostly

[worldly pewter]

what are u trying to enhance ?

[little tree]

~~ btd the best db~~

Looks like purple gear from only require 1 no?

[last swift]

for the main guns nelson this crap will be needed

[split gazelle]

are you trying to enhance this by any chance

[last swift]

is it not possible or something?

[dreamy blade]

heavily not recommended to enhance purple gear past +10

[worldly pewter]

u need to understand first what is beyong +10 before deciding on which weapon to spend these on

[dreamy blade]

whatever it is you are trying to do with nelson, +11 gun will not make the difference

[dreamy blade]

[little tree]

You have bigger priorities then lion gun

To go past +10

[worldly pewter]

make that +10 at least

yeah rainbow gear cost 3x the golden gear
so unless u are way deep opsi grinding u aren't going to catchup on that

[slender linden]

Mines still level 1 cuz I haven’t start building Lion

[warped acorn]

[cobalt robin]

Is glorious meta good?

[cobalt rapids]

very good

if her stuff procs

[heavy crag]

is the private 1/4 blcked?

[cobalt rapids]

is what ?

[heavy crag]

tried to get in but instead it kicks me back to loading screen

private quarter

[cobalt robin]

Alright thanks

[heavy crag]

could be emu issue but never had it in the past

[cobalt rapids]

no nothing is blocked in private quarter
if it kicks u its adevice issue

[heavy crag]

aight

[woven star]

I heard about some issues with emul and quarter. Idk if it solved

[severe tinsel]

I were planning to make mob fleet (1st pic) and boss fleet (2nd pic). Who should I add in those empty spot?

I'm at 11-1 so need mob fleet to kept main fleet to hit boss with full power now

Ofc I'll lvl up those guys who lack in lvl for now.

[cobalt rapids]

unicorn is always on mob fleet
arizona is not good
and howe isnt mlb
and no idea who u have in ur dock to guess

[severe tinsel]

Ok fair. Lemme send ss

[bleak nymph]

Please use a thread to send dock SS

[ornate narwhal]

How should I build penny?

[severe tinsel]

My ship list

[severe tinsel]

Here

[ornate narwhal]

Wait I don’t have either of the auxes

They’re on hood

[cobalt rapids]

open more boxes till u do

[ornate narwhal]

Well what should I do until then? Bc I just opened them all

[bleak nymph]

Go get more boxes

[ornate narwhal]

So what should I do for now?

[bleak nymph]

You can do without the auxes for the time being until you do have them.

[ivory pawn]

If you have something that gives HIT or FP just chuck ‘em on her.

[ripe sparrow]

how good is BRS?

[cobalt rapids]

pretty good for a gold

[ripe sparrow]

is Dead master the same too?

[cobalt rapids]

less

[ripe sparrow]

awww, well i guess Edgy Miku is enough

[storm olive]

Her only notable thing is being a better hiryuu but she is like 2 years too late for that to be relevant

[ripe sparrow]

is Dead master like a mobbing CV?

[storm olive]

All I remember about her is she lives for 15 more seconds after her hp hits 0

[ripe sparrow]

dayum...that kinda sucks lol

[cobalt rapids]

not rly, shes either

[ripe sparrow]

dayum looks like imma just build BRS then

[paper nebula]

hi if the event is over. where do i get the Meta Crystals for the other ships?

[last swift]

should i swap saratoga and black rock shooter

[nova crane]

does secretary affinity gain only occur when you are online

[storm olive]

Occurs at all times, until 90 affinity

[cobalt robin]

Who should I research? I'm at chapter 9 rn

[cobalt robin]

Pretty much neglected researching till now

[wind hazel]

roon/louis>fdg/anchorage>agir/avp

[cobalt robin]

Didn't know there were this many lol

[cobalt robin]

Thanks

[turbid marsh]

one more in a month XD

[bleak nymph]

If you already have decent main fleets, roon > anchorage> agir and then branch off into non coinable

No point getting fdg if you already have for example lion and musashi for example... You would use her, but already have better

If you don't, then FdG should be priority

[nova crane]

nice

what which stages are best for exp farming?

[bleak nymph]

12-1 and 12-4

[cobalt robin]

This is my main fleet rn, I was using hood before

[nova crane]

thx

[bleak nymph]

retrofit unicorn asap

[cobalt robin]

I need blueprints 😔😔😔

And parts too ig 😔😔

[turbid marsh]

you should be able to take care of that... within 3 days. (unless you already used all those gold prints from x-4 hard mode full clear + monthly medal exchange)

[bleak nymph]

1 day actually, 2 tops

[cobalt robin]

Well I'm at chapter 9 so yea

[turbid marsh]

chapter 9? yeah def 1 day

[bleak nymph]

There's a bit of a funny guy move with hard mode in which you can 3 star it in 1 "run" by simply retreating after killing all escorts

it only counts as a run if you kill the boss

[cobalt robin]

I've done that before lol

I'll retrofit uni dw 😔😔✌🏻

[bleak nymph]

Is that york or york2?

[wind hazel]

that's enterprise

[bleak nymph]

Right, it is enty, me blind

[weak dust]

What is good for 2nd craft in gear lab, i have one wyvern

[cobalt robin]

Lemme 3 star chap 8 and then I'll do x-4 hard for the blueprints

[stark quiver]

probably another wyvern

[weak dust]

Done

[undone plover]

Ju87-D
The KMS conv torp bomber

• 155kai CL gun for ch14 and for CLs

[worldly pewter]

u know that being nicknamed as lion gun doesn't necessarily means that i has to be mounted on lion right ?

[slender linden]

Who else am I gonna put it on they’re all unbuilt

[wind hazel]

warspite

[viscid swift]

any battleship you use against light armor

[turbid marsh]

hey warspite is actually usable now XD

[tawdry halo]

Hi chat, what SR gears are worthy from gear lab?

and no I am not asking for rainbows, currently they are too expensive for me

[wicked obsidian]

Where to see Azur lane time?

[soft raft]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[storm olive]

Around NJ tier

[turbid marsh]

yeah usable now

[soft raft]

Wdym

[wicked obsidian]

Like in game time...some games does Show time.

[worldly pewter]

u just need to consider the ones that will compete with the wyvern on the electronic side and adjust because most of the gear needs that specific component

[storm olive]

Wait a certain amount of time on the main screen where you can see your secretary

[sweet delta]

Press the HQ button

[wicked obsidian]

Ow..the idle state

[wicked obsidian]

[clear harbor]

The idle screen feature is pretty cool.

[soft raft]

Daily reset is at <t:1750057200:t>
That's really the only relevant game time you need

[limpid elk]

It also shows the current game time on the little phone in port

[clear harbor]

This is going to sound silly, but what am I looking for in a tank for may Vanguard? High HP and high evasion?

My Portland finally hit 120, so I'm rotating her out. I have some high level ships that can take that slot due to being overleveled, but I figure there's more I should think about when deciding who takes the point position.

[atomic abyss]

Skills really

As big a role as HP, Eva and Luck all play in bulk

Skills usually are the biggest deciding factor

But if you don't want to think too hard

[atomic abyss]

/ehp

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

List of vanguard ships by tankiness by mebot

[atomic abyss]

Is a good place to start

[flint wyvern]

Help With OPSI and W14 Teams

[clear harbor]

Thanks! Is there a legend or glossary for this? I don't see anything explaining what eHP is. But I assume higher is better?

[atomic abyss]

eHP is effective HP
Higher is better basically yes

[clear harbor]

Makes sense. Thanks.

Ah, looks like Prinz Eugen is a good tank! I have her.

[normal cedar]

is it better to use autoreloaders when using ddg in main fleet mode?
so that they can fire more often?

[forest palm]

I wouldn't exactly use Eugen...unless you've already MLB'd her, at which point by all means, but there's certainly a lot better choices

[clear harbor]

Of the ships I have, she ranks the highest.

[severe tinsel]

is portland better than eugen?

[forest palm]

Eugen is tankier, but more expensive and doesn't offer much more than her bulk, Portland is in a similar situation, but is cheaper

[clear harbor]

Yeah, but I already maxed Port.

[worldly pewter]

better tech too

[forest palm]

wouldn't recommend Eugen to a newer player either way, and most players reach a point where they'll have more diverse and flexible options

[severe tinsel]

i see, so ship that flexible is better than a niche ship

[worldly pewter]

i can't really speak from my own experience because i started during a tank banner but yeah aside from getting gacha the only way is shipyard
roon then agir anchorage

[split gazelle]

I used portland and san diego for my fleets

[severe tinsel]

sandy is obviously good, portland so far i use is ok, but ill upgrade her in future

portland is like beginner tank i guess?

[split gazelle]

it's the easiest one to get yeah

[severe tinsel]

btw how do people get tons of retrofit part? i need thons of them to retrofit ships

gold one i mean

[split gazelle]

do your daily hard mode at the highest stage possible, that's about it. you could buy some from guild shop or with medals if you have those spare

[severe tinsel]

huhuhu, i kept getting purple

[fathom relic]

AFCT or HSFCT passive doesnt work with Alsace right? because preload?

[severe tinsel]

what is that?

[vale spindle]

It does, it applies to the shot after it
Same with all preloaders

[forest palm]

are you talking about Alsace pre-load? because that is separate from your first solvo

[fathom relic]

Ah i see, tks you all for info

[fathom relic]

Yea, i mean the tooltip called "first volley" but first salvo of Alsace is preloaded so i get confused

Tks for clearing this

[forest palm]

for future reference any Pre-Load, be it Ship Torpdeos, Air Strikes, or BB Salvo, does not count as the first loaded shot

[fathom relic]

Yea noted, tks a lot

[wanton dawn]

what are these for?

[fathom relic]

Buy all 7 and go to event interface to get gold ship invitation

[strange path]

Is the gold twin 380 better than the purple triple 408 (mobbing)

[viscid swift]

no

[forest palm]

Twin 380 is just bad

[strange path]

Ok thank you

[rare tusk]

I defeated the boss but haven't unlocked the next stage

do I need to get all stars?

[viscid swift]

no, you need to beat the boss 2 more times

[fair lance]

No you just need to clear it 2? more times

[soft raft]

get this to 100%

[clear harbor]

You get a bunch from getting three stars on hard mode, too.

[rare tusk]

oww huh, for the previous stages just beating it one time was enough

[clear harbor]

It varies. Some require multiple clears.

[fair lance]

Yes they changes it w9 and below is only 1 clear to move on

[viscid swift]

it was a change they made recently

[rare tusk]

ahh alright, thanks!!

[warped trench]

Quick question

Who do I replace Portland retroffit with

[cobalt rapids]

who do u have?

[warped trench]

I’m like close to finishing Roon and I can invite Baltimore

I also have a UR Exchange available

[terse roost]

Next ur event when

[cobalt rapids]

roon doesnt replace portland till shes dev 30 which will take like 1 month with coining and balti doesnt replace her as a tank either

[viscid swift]

this week

[fair lance]

19th

[soft raft]

Bismarck Zwei rerun this week on the 19th

[cobalt rapids]

UR exchange also doesnt replace portland because you shouldnt pick kron as shes low prio

portland is serviceable till u dev roon and anchorage

[warped trench]

Ayt thanks, I’ve been trying to find a replacement but my dumb ahh can’t comprehend it

Also, my Backline is NJ, Fritz Rumey, and Lion, all of them are like lvl 100 and they have the correct gears apart from Lion cus I didn’t have time to get enough of the event thingy, is this a fine backline or do I replace anyone

[soft raft]

what content is this for? Is this a 2nd fleet?

[warped trench]

Main fleet

[cobalt rapids]

do they also have full stars ?

[soft raft]

no I mean is that a 2nd fleet of 6 ships that you're working on or not

[warped trench]

Do I UR Exchnage for a copy of NJ cus Fritz is the only
Close one to Full stars and Lion is still the default stars 😂

[warped trench]

Nah I just wanna know if my fleet is alright for the time being

[soft raft]

You only list 3 ships without stating what content it's for

How are we supposed to give you a proper answer

[cobalt rapids]

thats not good
what does close to full stars mean ? is fritz lb2 ?
if yes then u can finish her and then prioritize lion

[soft raft]

and I sincerly hope you're not doing a single fleet cuz otherwise that's an immediate red flag for not using Unicorn

[turbid marsh]

next time you can open up a thread here,post your dock, and a helper will help you heehee

[warped trench]

Ayt mb im new 😔

[warped trench]

Fleet best aggressive an HP lineup

[turbid marsh]

dont sweat it man!

[white agate]

wait they did never update this in the guild shop?

[fierce lantern]

when is bismark zwei coming

[fair lance]

19th

[whole crypt]

I vaguely remember up to PR3 is in the rotation but no idea if they'll update with PR4

[gaunt cedar]

is san diego good enough to raise cap to 125?

[bleak nymph]

w13 and w14 yes

[white agate]

yes, if you have her retrofitted she sure is a good aa ship

[gaunt cedar]

thanks

[little tree]

Best aa ship in the game

[bleak nymph]

silly skill go brrrrr

[flint wyvern]

Should chang be retrofitted to main fleet mode?

Okay

[turbid marsh]

one of the 7 best frontlines in w15 eh

[little tree]

Why does it say unavailable

[turbid marsh]

join an slightly more active guild i guess XD

[little tree]

Oh first time i s33n that didn't know lol

[turbid marsh]

i only knew when i was logging into my friend's account to join my guild a year ago lol, i was like... this... never happeend before.

[gilded shale]

Any tips for w12 and w13?

[eternal basalt]

Any get cog quick schemes that does not involce using gems

[eternal basalt]

If you have all other mains maxed it's a good way to get these DD's xp

[viscid swift]

wait a few days for Zwei's rerun

[gilded shale]

Event shop, monthly core shop

[forest palm]

can always swip a little

[turbid marsh]

you should be able to run through it with 120s. w13-3/4 need some aa carries, but sandy is available, and traf is also available, not to mention cheshire/shimanto and stuff.

UNLESS you didn't get traf or didn't have enough resources for traf, then skip that

[eternal basalt]

Was hoping for a little sooner, but guess that has to do

[eternal basalt]

Already cleaned both

[tame jungle]

W14

[slim dawn]

guys owari or daisen

who's bigger

[bleak nymph]

waifu or usefulness?

[viscid swift]

what

[normal cedar]

is hai sisters + yatsen comp actually used anywhere? ehp chart seems to place them at nearly the top

[viscid swift]

no

[meager tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[bleak nymph]

Do people not just run an shan yat sen?

[cobalt rapids]

u only need one of the hais to pair with yatsen
and they are decent in campaign

[normal cedar]

ohh got it, thanks!

[gilded shale]

Could just wait for a bit more. I mean you've already got like an extra 1.2 million exp so there's no need to rush for some cogs.

[eternal basalt]

There are also like 100 other ships that wait for cogs

[forest palm]

💳

[bleak nymph]

tfw i will probably never run out of cogs

[forest palm]

if you have main fleet ships you'll eat them

[little tree]

I remember when I had 50k

[eternal basalt]

Doesn't help they don't release rares or normal that are cheaper

[turbid marsh]

13-1 sandy + aquila / z52 + unicorn

[forest palm]

these days I float between 90k ~ 110k cog chips

[little tree]

How much did you swipe

[turbid marsh]

first, get sandy and aquila to like 0 morale, and then swap to z52 fleet XD and then do it over again heehee

[eternal basalt]

I run 13-1 now yeah, but 25 ever once in a while

[forest palm]

a lot of my cog chips are natural, it's just I have 0 main fleet ships to level, like I just 120'd BRS and DM

[little tree]

What about all that dd tech

[turbid marsh]

yeah, cog farming is either 1:1 13-1 or 15-1 with raff fleet XD

[forest palm]

main fleet, vanguard tech is a different matter

[turbid marsh]

literally use raff more than lion/musashi/bismark now XD

[little tree]

Do vanguards and main fleet cost the same chips ?

[viscid swift]

yes

[eternal basalt]

Run 13-1 3:3 Too much oil

[cobalt rapids]

cost is based on rarity

[surreal belfry]

Why are some of the ports in operation siren RED!

[forest palm]

vanguard leveling is much slower unless you really try to MvP control which I don't do, so you end up slowing down on chip usage

[eternal basalt]

Axis ports, for missions

[cobalt rapids]

ure prob better with the triple healer squad than raff

[surreal belfry]

What kind of missions?

[eternal basalt]

Daily port missions

[surreal belfry]

OK, got you thx

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Daily_Missions
Port objectives

[severe tinsel]

How many gems can you get, without p2w?

[atomic abyss]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[forest palm]

there is no P2W la

money won't solve your skill issue

[cobalt rapids]

money solves ur time issues

[turbid marsh]

my en blood is telling me "as an f2p, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems each year"

then i read again

[eternal basalt]

You can get a guaranteed 800 (+100 every year after this) per year Oh and 300 CNY

[meager tiger]

just grind gem commissions

[severe tinsel]

Gem is that rare, dayum... How someone supposed to collect 800+ ship 💀

[sweet delta]

Easily

[viscid swift]

patience and dogged determination

[cobalt rapids]

invent a time machine

[severe tinsel]

I'm gonna be granpa before have all 800+ ships and maxed game content

[viscid swift]

it only took me 3 years or so

[bleak nymph]

bru i been here since 2019 still not endgame, but then again turbo casual so

[severe tinsel]

How abt dock space?

[eternal basalt]

You NEED 2+ year (and a timemachine for that CNY ship they forgot)

[viscid swift]

I have 816 right now, haven't put any paid gems into dock space

[severe tinsel]

So you retire maxed ship?

[viscid swift]

no, I keep a copy of every ship

[severe tinsel]

I mean dock slot is expensive like hundred of gem for 10 slot

[viscid swift]

yeah

[eternal basalt]

200 for 10

[keen comet]

[severe tinsel]

U topup?

[viscid swift]

for skins, haven't put any of those gems into dock space though

[severe tinsel]

Ohh, so it's possible after all

Hmm...

[sweet delta]

Always has been

[peak umbra]

can i manually reset operation siren?

[cobalt rapids]

u start with 150 dock space
4700 gems from permanent sources
-800 for getting the minimum QoL dorm
that leaves u with 3900 gems or + 195 dockspace for a total of 345
theres 781 ships ingame rn -49 META(which dont take dockspace) and -73 collab just because
youll need enough dockspace to house 659 ships if u wanna house 1 copy each
which means u need around 314 dockspace which translates to 6.3k ish gems
lets say we get like 1.2k gems per year for free then u can calculate how many years you need to get enough dockspace to house all girls excluding new releases

[peak umbra]

I had 1000 dock space on my old account

[cobalt rapids]

yes the secret is to become old

[peak umbra]

and it was on lvl 80.
Just because apologems

[eternal basalt]

They don't screw up like they used to though

[peak umbra]

Now i have 770 space

Never had any problems with it.

[cobalt rapids]

thats very nice

[viscid swift]

there's also +30 dock space from guild tech

which I don't even have maxed yet

[cobalt rapids]

mb substract from 6.3k gems 600 gems then

[eternal basalt]

And as said 1100 (+counting) guaranteed gems a year

[vale spindle]

if you are on washington server you can join my guild we have everything maxed

[viscid swift]

I'm part of the Church of Cheshire(despite not being a believer), just don't have enough guild activity yet

[onyx chasm]

Whch of the war archives are worth grinding

[peak umbra]

Btw Azurein gems aren't that expensive. If you aim for dock and depot you cansolve your problems very cheap, compared to other games

[vale spindle]

the ones with ships you need for collection purposes

[viscid swift]

who needs to buy more depot space

just stick gear on ships you're not using

[peak umbra]

I give all my ships their own weapons. No communism here

[vale spindle]

yes when they are equipped on ships they don't take up depot space

[cobalt rapids]

@inland shoal hi can i cargo query wiki for ships by release year ?

[onyx chasm]

Ah alr, also thanks for your tier list (rlly helpin me out 👍 )

[vale spindle]

i don't have a tierlist

[viscid swift]

what is umi cooking

[tame jungle]

now you do!

[eternal basalt]

No, it's not set

[onyx chasm]

Yh you do broski

[cobalt rapids]

just checking gems cost per dockspace per year

[vale spindle]

• go to mrlar azur lane data
• within the ships.json, theres an argument for every ship thats has the unix time for their rough release date
• write some program to parse that

[turbid marsh]

take the compliment man, enjoy it

[viscid swift]

oh, that's pretty easy to ballpark though

[cobalt rapids]

nvm i can just go to his site and sort by release date and count the rows thanks

[viscid swift]

hint hint
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_-cF_Oin9VyOcVYJmbfjaJRL9bu6f39n-mlZMuoJZIs/edit?usp=sharing

[vale spindle]

im pretty sure only wiki staff can cargo query anyways

[cobalt rapids]

nah every1 can, i often do it

[vale spindle]

[peak umbra]

Hololive rerun... when... i waiting for years

[cobalt rapids]

so about 68 non meta ships if i counted right ( i used both hands ) released in 2024 so thats about 1.4k ish gems per year to keep up

[viscid swift]

cope harder

[meager tiger]

gawr gura collab ship

[eternal basalt]

When China sees Taiwan as nation... so never

[onyx chasm]

Anyone know a guide for the navi thing project identity

[inland shoal]

Holy you have a lot of fingers

[eternal basalt]

#1204845559790440488

As of Monday, 6/16/2025, there is a total of 630 regular ships, 101 of which can be retrofitted. There are 37 research ships, 73 collab. ships, and 49 META ships. Together, these make up a total of 789 obtainable ships in the game.

[peak umbra]

Hololive kinda returned to china, so i started hope again

[inland shoal]

At any rate not a topic for this channel

[chilly plaza]

Should I Oath my Helena immediately or wait for someone else?

[viscid swift]

oath who you like

[meager tiger]

oath ur favorite shipgirl

[turbid marsh]

frontlines are not that important if you are oathing for stats only XD

[meager tiger]

most people do it based on personal preference, some do it for meta, others do it for skins

[chilly plaza]

I already have, this for number 2

[meager tiger]

in terms of oathing for stat, backline matters much more

[swift hornet]

My BB fleet consists of NJ, Bis Zwei, and Lion, is it still worth getting Warspite retro now that she’s got new augment

[forest palm]

I wouldn't bother

[atomic abyss]

she's NJ level so i wouldnt bother
unless one of them isnt MLB

[peak umbra]

Stay pure

[ionic aurora]

Is fairy magic poster still available somewhere or I missed it forever?

[eternal basalt]

What is fairy magic poster?

[ionic aurora]

Aux gear thats good for Soyuz in pvp

[versed egret]

Is there any way to speedrun into a Ur bulin? My time is very limited until then so I'm tweaking out to mlb shinano.

[bleak nymph]

Fairwinds pass. Skip all missions with tickets.

[cobalt rapids]

winter pathfinder

[bleak nymph]

You'll only get the one however.

[chilly plaza]

Awww she’s so fucking cute

[tame jungle]

#al-general

[versed egret]

One is enough. I got another from lion event.

[eternal basalt]

Unknown

[storm olive]

its sg radar with 1 more hit at +13 and this passive

[eternal basalt]

Yeah, looked it up... unknown if and when and how it returns

[ionic aurora]

Yeah that passive is great

[cobalt rapids]

yk its bad when the game itself recommends against p2w-ing it

[bleak nymph]

Never said it was a good idea, just that it achieved what he wants :p

[storm olive]

oh i thought you meant unknown as in you didnt know the aux mb

[eternal basalt]

Most of these gears go to the limited core shop... if it ever returns. And additions to that are super random.

[viscid swift]

Check the guide in the pins of #pvp

[ionic aurora]

Thx

[neon finch]

which gun is better

[viscid swift]

for what

[neon finch]

mid heavy mob

[viscid swift]

457

[neon finch]

ok

[viscid swift]

for mobbing that is

[neon finch]

also

how would this be

[viscid swift]

for what

[neon finch]

general purpose

mostly mobbing in opsi

[viscid swift]

when you say general purpose I interpret that as everything so no
and you're lacking a healer for mobbing work

even if you were to replace QE for Unicorn
Charybdis and Newcastle are still pretty shit

[turbid marsh]

(would say all benched but lion but thats just me)

[neon finch]

qe has 15% flat buff though (core of team?)

[turbid marsh]

buff is good, ship herself is like... non existent

[viscid swift]

no, even in a full HMS fleet you wouldn't use her because she's shit

[sweet delta]

I was like 5% off a kawa meta kill with QE full faction fleet

[neon finch]

power inflation

[viscid swift]

this isn't a new thing either

been the case for years

[neon finch]

also

for opsi monthly boss, can I use multiple fleet like carwheel fight?

or is it one attempt only

[fair lance]

Normal mode you can retreat and heal till you beat it hard mode you can only use the 4 fleets you have and can't heal or the arbiter will heal as well

[neon finch]

oh... ok

[dawn hamlet]

Hello! When does the event collab end?

[cobalt rapids]

18th

[dawn hamlet]

hmm 2 days left, I'll probably miss some reward then
thanks a bunch for the answer

[cobalt rapids]

just try to get them and their augs ig the skins are nice tho

[eternal basalt]

All rewards are open, as long as you get the points

[dawn hamlet]

Rock Cannon is the augment?

[viscid swift]

yes

[dawn hamlet]

aight I should be able to get that then, thanks guys

[eager mulch]

[chilly plaza]

What’s Hippers flat buff then?

[sweet delta]

Hipper flat

[turbid marsh]

even her meta form is...

[little tree]

[strange path]

How do fighters work? Do they launch with the airstrike?

[gilded shale]

I see a lot of wiki and stuff recommending quadruple magnetic torpedoes instead of the quintuple ones. Why is that a thing?

[tame jungle]

generally better hitrate and a lower reload time than rainbow quint which means more damage on target

[soft raft]

Quad has more damage per torp and faster reload

[tame jungle]

also gold quint is bad

[strange path]

Which ship should i be using my pr4 bp catchup on?

[undone plover]

anchorage mainly
AvP if u are missing implacable

[fair lance]

Not only that but quad mags have a tighter spread than quint some of the torps will just not go near ships

[strange path]

Should i prioritize cognitive arrays in core data shop? My ships are approaching 120 and i ran out. Im currently on 11-3 commander level 80

[sweet delta]

Wiki recommendations

1. Quad mags may have better timing with 20s debuffs like Helena or implacable
2. Improved quad mags have better damage per torp and hit rate than quad mags or quint mags
3. Gold is way cheaper to +13 than rainbow

[slow fox]

suchimisinformation

[dark turret]

what do these numbers mean, i see these on weapons too like t0, t3

[hushed sorrel]

its something akin to tiers. well the t means tier.

[sweet delta]

The ship T dont mean anything, devs set it

Equip T means that T3 quad bofors AA gun is higher rarity than T2 quad bofors AA gun

T is not useful for comparing between different gear

So it is basically useless, everyone just talks about the rarity instead

[sweet delta]

I think it means Tech level, not tier level

[hushed sorrel]

i can rewrite it into "could mean tier" but it doesnt really matter

[ornate narwhal]

Is this good?

[viscid swift]

no

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

How bout gold hellcat?

[undone plover]

it is decent but purple rarity f4u corsair is similar and upgrades into a better plane later

[ornate narwhal]

Ah ok

So like if I upgrade a piece of gear, but later down the line I use the gear lab to make it into a new piece, will the new piece of gear keep the upgrades?

[forest palm]

You'll get all the plates back, and like 25% of the coin you spent

[soft raft]

/equip give the first link a read for what's considered good

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[zinc hornet]

is warspite still worthless?

[indigo dirge]

Working on 15-3 atm. Having some trouble getting the 3rd star clear. I have an okayish idea of how I can improve my gear, but want to try improving fleet composition first before I send gear crafts.

Here's the fleet I've had the most success with so far:

Mob: Alsace, Unicorn, Perseus, Cheshire, Laffey2, Sandy
Boss: Soyuz, Nakhimov, Fritz Rumey, Napoli, Trafalgar, Z52

I was thinking maybe I could put ASW on Trafalgar and swap Fritz Rumey with a healer to clear out the rest of the mobs before killing the 2nd boss. Anyone have suggestions?

[sweet delta]

Who would be the healer?

[supple ember]

is there somewhere i can see all the possible costume interactions so i know i didnt miss anything?

[white agate]

youtube

[indigo dirge]

Klaudia Valentz would be my next best leveled/geared

Volga was neglected 😦

[sweet delta]

Have you seen the guide? https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/
Using both nakhimov and fritz out of support fleet seems like a waste. Soyuz would be better than Alsace for mob especially when out of ammo

And Perseus folds when out of ammo, klaudia better

[bright tusk]

What is currently the best boss fleet against light, medium, and heavy boss each for operation siren?

[indigo dirge]

Haven't seen this yet, no. I'll try Musashi and Aquila instead, since you have them at SS tier. Completely forgot Aquila existed tbh lol

[dreamy blade]

not as good as other UR BBs but is now good enough to be UR tier, is also now meta in pvp i believe

[frail hamlet]

For auto play, is purple magnetic torp or gold non-magnetic better?

[frozen stag]

Erm just found out my fdg is almost done but my avp has more bp Who do I prio now

[dreamy blade]

gold non-mag quints are good for mobbing, purple quad mag can be used for boss

[frail hamlet]

Ty!

[fair lance]

If you don't have Implacable have enough cubes for Zwei and have Lion go for AvP.

[indigo dirge]

Is the fast purple IJN gun still the best for Musashi mobbing?

[frozen stag]

i dont have implacable nor lion but i have like 160+ cubes for zwei , i do have shinano unzen and musashi

[fair lance]

Your cubes are a tad low but if you don't manage to get her and Musashi is your only UR BB I'd switch to FDG

[frozen stag]

okok thanks, yeah just started last week so i dont got that much cubes yet will go for fdg then

[dreamy blade]

fdg takes longer to coin so just finish her so you can start that

also what is your focus set to in research academy?

[silver lintel]

Save for zwei rerun, the one bb u dont wanna miss

[frozen stag]

ia that the catch up one or the one where you choose which pr it prios if its the pr one i chose pr2 for fdg

[fair lance]

No it's this screen

[frozen stag]

oh that one yeah pr2

[fair lance]

You focus for a PR season to show up

[fair lance]

I'd switch that to pr5 or pr7(personally would go pr7)

[frozen stag]

oh ok didnt know that

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/

[silver lintel]

How many la9 should I aim for

[fair lance]

If PR8 is bad the answer is yes(as many as you can)

[silver lintel]

Is pr8 coming next month

[fair lance]

Should be

[frozen stag]

whats the difference between pr5 and pr7 in terms of bp

[fair lance]

It's Plymouth's CL gun vs la-9 and a good converging planes.

[sweet delta]

See appendix A for a comparison https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VJ12iQu8IdKQ0ss29c_KZ5BGk5BXT0mtwZoOuZMAuaE

[fair lance]

Or are you talking about ships?

[frozen stag]

the gear

im mostly cooked on having good gear

[sweet delta]

One does not simply get every type of gear from one season of research

I think pr7 is better for gear than pr5

[frozen stag]

what do you usually do with the selector bps you get i have tons and i wondered if converting them was the best to do

[astral salmon]

rock shooter isnt permanent?

[fair lance]

collab so no

[astral salmon]

awh man

[fair lance]

If you got the unit it's yours forever

[astral salmon]

so for collab its only trial?

[fair lance]

The NPC is trial until you get enough trust to recruit them to your dock.

[astral salmon]

oh

[fair lance]

Save the selector and generally use them on the PR season they go for.

[astral salmon]

how long will the event last

[fair lance]

until the maintenance on the 19th

[astral salmon]

ah man it seems like i cant get it ;-;

[frozen stag]

So I should use the pr2 selectors to rush fdg?

[fair lance]

Since FDG can be upped with coins I'd save until she's dev30 and convert the bps to protocores

[fair lance]

You can. If you really want her farm campaign for trust

[astral salmon]

if i just start now how long do you think it take to get it?

[dreamy blade]

not long, they made it easier than similar events we've had

[fair lance]

You only need 500 trust for her and the augment so just farm campaign it's doable in 2 days

[astral salmon]

i just back to AZ after a year hiat ;-;

[frozen stag]

Oh right for these do you just analyze them

[upper jay]

unless you are lazy

Like me:)

~~the result of laziness ~~

[dreamy blade]

very lazy indeed to have fritz but not z52

[sweet delta]

Log in, do 200 builds, close the game for 3 months

[low juniper]

What gear should I put on Trafalgar

[fair lance]

single 113mm > 76mm, double hp aux. there are break points to where 76mm can be a bit better listed on sushi's website

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/single-113mm-vs-76mm

[low juniper]

Why double HP aux, is she squishy?

[fair lance]

Because DD's have a ton of evasion, the benefit of more evasion falls off the more you have.

But yes she's also squishy.

[low juniper]

Which AA gun should I use, Or does it not matter

[fair lance]

Not really just standard vanguard AA

[low juniper]

I've forgotten what standard vanguard AA is

[fair lance]

twin 76mm > twin 90mm > twin 113mm > quad 40mm bofors.
Sextuple 40mm bofors on AA carry.

[low juniper]

This twin 76mm?

[fair lance]

This one

[low juniper]

ALso one more question, what gear should Lala Deviluke have?

[fair lance]

Main gun UR triple 203mm skc > twin 203mm SKC (improved) > gold twin 203mm
DD gun twin 100 kai > twin 128/45 sk > purple twin 120mm
AA gun
Evasion aux and toolbox.

I haven't really used her yet so someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[low juniper]

What is that main gun

[fair lance]

Which one? I listed 3

[low juniper]

The UR triple 203 sck

[low juniper]

Where do I get that

[whole crypt]

research, don't bother if you don't already have one

[fair lance]

Can also get one from protocore but there's better first buys than that

[whole crypt]

the best regularly available CA gun is eugen gun

or upgrade it in lab to roon gun

hindenburg gun is fairly far down the list of priorities for protocore

gun on the left from gold kms boxes, gun on the right if you can afford in lab but not very big difference if you're saving ordnance reports

[fair lance]

I'd honestly craft flapjacks if you don't have any over that it's a very small difference iirc.

[whole crypt]

yep

[tawdry halo]

isnt it the Roon's gun

[pseudo hearth]

How does Halford rank when using an AA gun? As in, who is she comparable to?

[astral salmon]

for the black rock challenge after i fight the rock shooter

what should i do

i mean theres no enemy

[soft raft]

go do something else
cuz there's like zero reason to fight her again after beating her

[fair lance]

If you've done all 3 challenges in illusory challenge in the event tab just go back to farming campaign whenver you can to get up to 500 trust to get black rock shooter

[astral salmon]

only 1 time but cant continue next challenge

[fair lance]

Can you take a picture?

[sweet delta]

💀

[astral salmon]

?

[sweet delta]

That would be a bug or asset corruption

[fair lance]

Yeah seems like a bug to me might want to report that to the bug channel I guess? I just cleared it on my 2nd account.

[sweet delta]

/logmode take a screenshot of this after your game gets stuck

[odd root]

https://youtu.be/l3ujs7D0tFE

[astral salmon]

ok thx

[pseudo hearth]

Anyone know?

[fair lance]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/htmlview#

[pseudo hearth]

I didn’t mean with AA, I just meant in general

[sweet delta]

I would assume about the same as with a seaplane

[pseudo hearth]

Does it not hurt her damage too much?

[sweet delta]

Considering that her seaplanes do approximately 0 damage, the AA gun may improve her damage

[astral salmon]

so how do i do the event

[sweet delta]

You do the other parts of the event

[fair lance]

Keep farming campaign to get trust for the ships. The challenge is just for dorm items

[astral salmon]

isit okay if i still use my formation after getting warning to rest?

[fair lance]

No you'll lose affection

If you're at w9 you can swap out ships to keep farming if you want.

[astral salmon]

so any campaign would do?

[fair lance]

yes, though higher gives more trust

[astral salmon]

ah im only w5

[fair lance]

Just stick them in dorm and wait for morale or if you have other ships that are high enough swap them out for now

[astral salmon]

oh okayy thanks

thanks

[fair lance]

Though after the event its adviced to not swap out ships until you reach w9 because it gives an oil cap which reduces the cost of oil per fight after you 100% clear a map.

[slow fox]

mebotmisinformation

[fair lance]

True

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, the Bearcats are supposed to be much much better than other seaplanes aren’t they?

[sweet delta]

Have you seen her planes do damage?

[pseudo hearth]

I don’t have her myself, so I couldn’t say one way or another.

[sweet delta]

https://youtu.be/QVUTKyTR5KA

[south sequoia]

Was that bug ever fixed

[rigid onyx]

How many fights does it take to bring a 100 affin ship to 200

nvm its 800 if mvping 1600 if not

[balmy skiff]

worse than belfast 💀

[rigid onyx]

Does that even seem right actually that implies that it takes 266 12-4 runs to hit 100 from 200

[forest palm]

even if the bug were fixed on Halford she'd still be bad

[ornate narwhal]

Is it possible to get all metas?

[soft raft]

• Cruise Pass METAs eventually get added to META Shop
• Showdown METAs eventually get added to Dossier
• Dunno for sure about Event METAs (since none of them have been archived yet) but they probably would be added to META Shop when they get archived, cuz that's where you get their crystals from

[ornate narwhal]

So the only unattainable units are collabs?

[ivory pawn]

Yep.

Nonzero chance of collab reruns, like with Ryza soon, but don't hold your breath.

[wind hazel]

Uranami too for some reason lol

[echo vector]

Map 13 blue chip and gear upgrade material drop feels too low.

[hollow hollow]

What's the meowficer help list command for nimibot?

[zinc hornet]

do these points reset end of month

[viscid swift]

yes the shop resets but your amount of vouchers does not

[zinc hornet]

alright ty. i messed up last month, got busy last few days

oh the edit, ty

[stark quiver]

do /cats in bot spam

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, I already know about her plane bug. I was just curious where she stood among other destroyers when not using her planes.

[stark quiver]

mid

[viscid swift]

pretty mediocre still, even before the bug she was rather unimpressive

[zinc hornet]

is kearsarge + York2n + (other USS) good for any particular content? is there any content where it outperforms everything else?

i like the idea of the fleet but never actually seen it used outside of pvp fleets

[echo vector]

Getting "strongest" fleet combination nowadays are only for fighting META ships or monthly challenge mode. For any regular and event content having full UR ships are overkill.

[hollow hollow]

rainbows are pushed overall

[echo vector]

META ship fight and monthly challenge usually tend to need very specific fleet combination, but having more options is generally good.

[stark quiver]

light armor bossing
and it may not outperform other comps
without requiring high investment, eg. 2 +13 ad1

[light prawn]

is 9-1 good for combat exp for pr?

[zinc hornet]

yeah I've only got one ad1. i don't really find myself using fully built fleets outside of meta and OPS. i haven't really had time to try to push main missions and i just xp farm events and WA

[stark quiver]

well sure?
but id wait until 12-1

[zinc hornet]

but I'd love to try to use thematic fleets for some content

[stark quiver]

should do opsi

[light prawn]

Okay thnx

[zinc hornet]

i try to minmax clear time in opsi lmao

[stark quiver]

my fleet sometimes clears in 2s

[zinc hornet]

mine generally takes until indep launches first strike

[stark quiver]

indep

[zinc hornet]

what fleet do you use?

[stark quiver]

lion,aquila,unicorn
z52,ibuki,harbin/hinden

[zinc hornet]

don't own aquila, didn't know ibuki was useful, and just finished harbin

[echo vector]

The best exp farm is the highest map you can comfortably auto mode.

[stark quiver]

i would not bring 6 shitters to 15-4
12-1 is a good farm zone because its flexibility in shiops usage, you can bring 6 bad ships and crossfleet and get the xp farm

[stark quiver]

ibuki has a good preload
if you have lion shes good

also i think luna is better than indep

[zinc hornet]

I've got lion ready to mlb. pulled 4 copies including pity. only level 80-ish though and skills not maxed

[zinc hornet]

who

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Luna

[soft raft]

(She's in collab purgatory)

[stark quiver]

unfortunately

[zinc hornet]

well that's not happening lmao

[pseudo hearth]

Is there any other DD you can compare her to in regard to that?

[zinc hornet]

is shimakaze preload useful at all for fast clearing opsi?

[viscid swift]

uhh, she's like a low SR
something like pre augment Z46 without Mogador gun

[stark quiver]

yes(?)

[zinc hornet]

like comparable to ibuki or ibuki just way better?

[stark quiver]

i mean its better than no preload
around the same as ibuki
but ibuki also has a strongish gun

[viscid swift]

Ibuki has the strong preload

[pseudo hearth]

Woah, that’s like quite bad. She’s somehow worse in AL than she is in WoWs

[zinc hornet]

okay i might look into building ibuki up and swapping her in for Eldridge or an shan

[stark quiver]

shes better than eld and anshan for ops mob

[forest palm]

Halford is gonna need a good FS

[zinc hornet]

I'm running
musashi, uni, indep
z52, an, eld

[stark quiver]

not that bad
swap lion in for musashi sometime later

[gaunt cedar]

12-1 better for farming WHILE also having ships below 120 or just purely levelling ships with no regard for money?

[viscid swift]

still pretty good for coins

[zinc hornet]

archive farming is my favourite farming

[forest palm]

You're also getting cog chips

[gaunt cedar]

i see

[stark quiver]

taz with new pfp what is this new meta

[stark quiver]

thats questionable

[forest palm]

It's still Shuten

[viscid swift]

I do want to emphasize shitters too

[zinc hornet]

how many cog chips is enough cog chips? i have 68k

[stark quiver]

never enough

[zinc hornet]

backline ddg scary

[viscid swift]

uhh, for me it's enough to be able to max every ship I have XP banked on to 120

[stark quiver]

how is your fleet not exploding in a firey ball
tech difference ong no cap

[viscid swift]

which right now is in excess of 100k give or take

[stark quiver]

dont you have 2k

[viscid swift]

931 right now

[zinc hornet]

nice, you're almost there

[viscid swift]

Akashi and Musashi, Alsace, Soyuz cross fleet does wonders

[stark quiver]

akashi?
i dont even have her

[viscid swift]

This as well I guess

[zinc hornet]

your isokaze probably does more damage than most of my ships

[forest palm]

I worked on the Cs and UCs before messing with the SRs, of course all the SSRs and URs are done

[zinc hornet]

i have about 45 ships at 120

[forest palm]

that's like a new born leaning to crawl

[zinc hornet]

i just got tech7 with uss and hms tho so my cv rld has improved by a fair bit

[forest palm]

das good

[stark quiver]

faction tech gud

[zinc hornet]

a month or so ago my cv rld from tech was 7, now it's 17

[eager mulch]

wtf new taz pfp

[zinc hornet]

almost got yorktown 1 to 120 as well which will give me a bit more

[forest palm]

still the same character and artist

[eager mulch]

the world will end when cheeky gets a new pfp

[forest palm]

well, we've got PR8 in a couple of weeks, so good time as any to grind tech

[forest palm]

this is pretty basic

[zinc hornet]

yes i know lol

[forest palm]

[stark quiver]

thats how my tech looked a while back

[viscid swift]

still looks like that wdym

[forest palm]

my tech kind of just exploded at some point

also HMS was a painful Lv 10

[stark quiver]

[zinc hornet]

in trying to work it up

[stark quiver]

bro unlocked level 10 tech while we are stuck at level 9

[zinc hornet]

vanguard was my first UR (other than retros) back during her original event

[forest palm]

[zinc hornet]

then i took a long break and missed laffey2 and a bunch of other stuff

[viscid swift]

RN is a bitch to work on

[stark quiver]

i honestly forgot my first UR
it was musashi iirc from her og event

[zinc hornet]

sort by date

[stark quiver]

oh right

[forest palm]

HMS, and KMS will always be the annoying factions, HMS is abundant but mostly low value, while KMS is scarce with high value

[zinc hornet]

how much dock space do you guys have

[stark quiver]

760 i think

[zinc hornet]

i have 470. i spent $2 on this game to buy some when i was in a pinch a few months back

[forest palm]

like Lv 9 for KMS is I want to say around 80% of the faction at Lv 120

[stark quiver]

470 isnt bad

[viscid swift]

816

[forest palm]

I'm at 840

[viscid swift]

I'm not a whale

[forest palm]

I am

[zinc hornet]

Small/moderate spender?

[viscid swift]

something like that yeah, still haven't put any paid gems into dock space though

[stark quiver]

i have
i put it into everything

[zinc hornet]

i fortunately very rarely miss event ships now. there's been a couple of SSRs I've rng bombed on tho

[forest palm]

correction I'm at 860 dock space

I've debated actually whaling the 3030 dock space

[zinc hornet]

how many ships are in the game

[forest palm]

should be around 700, ya?

[cobalt gate]

780 i think?

[viscid swift]

definitely not that much

[zinc hornet]

need 3120 so you can have 4 mlbs of each ship to run 4 identical fleets of anything in opsi

[viscid swift]

you can't use dupes in OpSi

[zinc hornet]

frick

need 1560 then

[cobalt gate]

i need cog to be honest, but not willing to pay gems for cog

[forest palm]

there are 630 regular ships, while there's 789 obtainable ships, retrofits fudge the number that's why there's such a disparity

[viscid swift]

different coppies at different limit breaks count as seperate ships for fleet power though

[cobalt gate]

ok i was right it should be around 780

[zinc hornet]

odd

[cobalt gate]

i'm still hoping they increase cog gain later on

[viscid swift]

cope harder

[sweet delta]

I hope they increase cog gain after you finish your 120s

[zinc hornet]

i hope they hand me every ship in the game at lvl120

what content are sub fleets most important for, and do they vary by content type as much as the rest of the fleet does?

my subs kinda messy

[forest palm]

no content needs subs, but you'll definitely want them for W14 + W15 as they're free damage

[zinc hornet]

i don't really put much effort into it beyond "she's pretty cool". archerfish is a bit of a weirdo tho

[thorny field]

When i can do 10-2 3 stars?

[zinc hornet]

all of them seem quite faction-dependent tho

[sweet delta]

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