gameplay-help

[cobalt rapids]

shes not good but her best is heavy armor dmg because of the trp focus

[atomic abyss]

Quite the contrary
She's horrible at light
Best at heavy
Well
She's not used much at all but yeah

[heavy sail]

oh okioki

well i have to work with what i have since when I quit best we had was nagato 💀

[atomic abyss]

Ibuki

[heavy sail]

i am using ibuki aswell but i need a boss fleet for heavy

[crimson glacier]

i just wouldnt use ayanami

[atomic abyss]

The priority is getting a good boss fleet for the current era

[heavy sail]

i’m using ibuki in off tank and i’m between ayanami or laffey , or maybe just retrofiting my yuudaichi?

[atomic abyss]

Because the good options in those days are mostly irrelevant

It doesn't matter whether they're heavy focussed or not

[heavy sail]

my dd situation is tragic

[atomic abyss]

A boss fleet with good URs will outperform a heavy focussed fleet with just SRs

Even if the URs are light focused

[woven star]

Quick question: that's mean no working skin for this slot? Or it's still working?

[atomic abyss]

You don't have to use DDs

[heavy sail]

i do for hard mode clears

[atomic abyss]

Then stick with what you already have raised

[heavy sail]

my boss fleet can’t even get S clear on the stage 10 hard mode bosses.. and they’re all lvl 115-125

[ivory pawn]

Seems like you’re using a Torpedo Bomber skin on a Fighter. Or something to that effect. Or in other words, won’t work.

[atomic abyss]

Because you can't brute force bosses at that point
You need to actually gear stuff properly

Also there're no heavy bosses till 13-4 anyways

[viscid swift]

your gear must suck then frankly

[heavy sail]

it’s not THAT bad considering i don’t have any event guns and just started doing opsi

[atomic abyss]

It is

[heavy sail]

where can i get better gear then?

[viscid swift]

it is in some aspects

[atomic abyss]

You're using the wrong gear

[viscid swift]

considering you can literally get some upgrades from T3 tech boxes

mainnly the dive bombers on the CVs and Nagato's main gun

[heavy sail]

i have 4 selective boxes tell me what to pick 🙏

[atomic abyss]

Frontliners using 🚮 oxy torps

Making them frailer

That's why you can't get s clears

[heavy sail]

they’re not dying tho i just need more damage to clear in time

[viscid swift]

Purple Helldiver and Mk6 would be the upgrades here

[chrome fiber]

Where is the gear chart again? I seems to have lost it

[heavy sail]

i clear in too much time, the problem is not deaths

[atomic abyss]

Not using a torp frontline would help

[viscid swift]

or just using better ships frankly

[atomic abyss]

Against the light armour bosses of w10

[atomic abyss]

Under /equip

[heavy sail]

i’m doing heavy arm clear rn

[viscid swift]

or even awakening Akagi and Kaga to 120

[atomic abyss]

There isn't a heavy armour boss in w10?

[chrome fiber]

Alright thanks

[heavy sail]

oh mb i thought if it drops the bb retrofit items it s a heavy armour mb 🤡

[viscid swift]

what no

[soft raft]

that's not how it works

[atomic abyss]

The first heavy armour boss of notable difficulty is 13-4

[heavy sail]

yeah i realized mb 🙏

[atomic abyss]

Everything else is light or medium

[whole crypt]

don't worry Ender Taihou is indeed the first heavy armour campaign boss

[heavy sail]

nono i have gold selectives

[viscid swift]

why are you even worying about W10 hard mode right now

if you haven't farmed the event yet you should be focusing on that

[heavy sail]

i got the UR and the gun and glorious

[viscid swift]

and if you have finished that go back to farming regular campaign node for some more coins

[atomic abyss]

These purples are better than the golds in the selectors lol

[viscid swift]

keep going until you have 55k points or the event ends

[heavy sail]

i need hard mode clears for the retrofit items i’m 5% exp away from unlocking fredrich

[heavy sail]

oh lmao 💀

[whole crypt]

FdG can wait honestly

[viscid swift]

yeah

[heavy sail]

i thought she was high priority what 😭😭😭

[viscid swift]

she is but like, you can't really afford it right now

[atomic abyss]

She is but you have bigger issues

[whole crypt]

AL game time is measured in years high priority can mean taking a week or a few months

[heavy sail]

i’m in 200 blueprints for her so she won’t be that weak❓

[atomic abyss]

You need 512

[viscid swift]

you need 513

[sweet delta]

512.5, take it or leave it

[atomic abyss]

She will be weak till then

[heavy sail]

including or excluding fate simulation???

[atomic abyss]

Excluding

[heavy sail]

oh fuck my life

[atomic abyss]

Fate sim adds another 215

[whole crypt]

including FS FdG needs over 700

[viscid swift]

good thing you can coin her now but

[heavy sail]

idk but from event if i just buy all blueprints and argument stones (since i alr have the ships and gear) do i rly need 50k event points?

[atomic abyss]

30k at minimum

[heavy sail]

and i have like 10k cog chips alr

[atomic abyss]

55k recommended

[viscid swift]

10k cog chips can disapear real quickly

thta's barely 4 SRs worth

[heavy sail]

if i had the coins to use them TwT

alr i’ll go farm event i don’t need good gear or ships for that it s super ez 🙏

[deft kettle]

is albion trash

[atomic abyss]

nope

[viscid swift]

she's decent

[atomic abyss]

one of the better SR CVs you can get

[deft kettle]

ah nice

[soft raft]

What's the arbiter this month?

[heavy sail]

should i also go for lion if i don’t rly have any royal navy ships except for like unicorn? i have 400 cubes

[atomic abyss]

faction fleets are bad, so faction isnt relevant lol

[soft raft]

what does that have to do with whether you should pull or not? just do it

[atomic abyss]

lion will single handedly outDPS every ship you have lol

[heavy sail]

i should slap her in boss fleet no?

[viscid swift]

you probably need her most there

[heavy sail]

after i get better ships in general will she be better in mob?

[honest sequoia]

Does BB/CV aux wants to be instant +13? Or I can stop at +12 first cuz im lacking that gold plate to make it +13

[viscid swift]

maybe, probably not though

she's the highest damage battleship in the game pretty much

[soft raft]

not that high prio for +13

[atomic abyss]

every gear that you want to upgrade to +13 shd be either left at +10 or immediately upgraded to +13
cos +12 -> +13 has the biggest jump

irrelevant here cos they're low prio

[viscid swift]

not for auxes actually

the stat boost for each enhance past +10 is the same actually

[heavy sail]

trafalgar boss or mob¿

[atomic abyss]

you wont use her as she's not max limit broken

[heavy sail]

yeah but i wanna raise her and buy bulins for her

[atomic abyss]

prio the bulins for lion

UR bulins are very timegated

[simple ice]

might be a dumb question but, do i need to do the sorties with little aegir too or is this enough, want to make sure and not get her after the event is over

[viscid swift]

you do not need to do any sorties with lil agir

[simple ice]

alright, thx for the reply

[whole crypt]

you only do this so the game stops notifying you of more progress

[soft raft]

e

[atomic abyss]

last mth was med so

[sweet delta]

With some weird exceptions https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/89520?level=13

[viscid swift]

oh was it, I just powered through it with La-9s lamo

[sweet delta]

+5, +3, +9 avi

[heavy sail]

okok but realistically speaking who would be able to at least tickle the light armour bosses from what i have? I sent pics of both what i own and what I have raised. Or should i not invest in anything at all anymore and just wait to get URs?

[viscid swift]

try fixing all the existing issues we mentioned above with your current fleet first

[heavy sail]

so equipment fixes?

[viscid swift]

and also get Unicorn leveled up and retrofitted

[viscid swift]

yes

[heavy sail]

unicorn is retrofitted and i’m maxing out her last skill rn

i just need coins to get her to 125

[viscid swift]

you don't need to worry about 125 right now

[heavy sail]

alr

but even tho i fix my fleet i feel like a core of the game is to constantly be raising ships i mean u have to have them leveling up skills and putting them in dorm in training.. so idk who’s worth investing into rn

[viscid swift]

right now, forget about leveling new stuff and once you are done with the event push to W12 in the main campaign first

you have many upgrades to make but now is not the time to make those upgrades, what you have right now is perfectly adequate for getting to W12

[heavy sail]

alr i’ll just dorm the ships i alr have over lvl 110 then

does lion gun work on nagato?

[viscid swift]

yes

[heavy sail]

i’ll try doing the hard stage again praying

[viscid swift]

speaking of which, are you only using one fleet?

[heavy sail]

no but my current mob fleet is full IB (except for unicorn) to farm exp for lab ships since it’s strong enough to clear any w11 with 0 ammo with an S (and survives with more than 80% hp after clearing the entire stage)

[viscid swift]

you do know that FDG only needs IB main fleet XP right

so running a full IB vanguard is completely pointless

[heavy sail]

bro i’m mentally impaired

ok mbmb

[lilac forum]

How Long does it usually take to max out a ultra ship from the shipyard?

[viscid swift]

4-6 months without catchup or coining

[lilac forum]

jesus

[atomic abyss]

4 months from research alone

[viscid swift]

assuming research focusa on that season

[cobalt rapids]

it took me 7-8 months to max napoli

[viscid swift]

yah but you have 5 La9s to show for it

[lilac forum]

that seems a bit too long haha to max out

[turbid marsh]

took me 5 months, and currently sitting at only around 4 la9s

[viscid swift]

I won't get my 5th before Pr8 at this rate

[turbid marsh]

sadly not that lucky with la9s 😦

think im at like 15/50. probably has to go back to pr7 if pr8 ur equip is trash XD

[fallen jay]

What about when I get really good new ships? Like I just got Hood and she’s level 63 now would she be a good replacement of Pennsylvania

[viscid swift]

level her on the side and she's ready(this will depend and vary) replace Pennsylvania with her

[fallen jay]

Yeah she’s ready she’s been doing great in the B3 event stage

[winter quartz]

do I have any chance to clear event ex?

[strange path]

Would you guys say farming main fleet or vanguard xp is easier ?

[fair lance]

Main it’s way easier to get mvp plus flagship xp

[atomic abyss]

if you manual, maybe

unlikely tho

[runic sky]

What is BIS A.A. Slot for Sandy?

I dont have any of the UR's but I do have most SR A.A. guns

[slim dawn]

so how do i use nakhimov

[viscid swift]

Roomba or Sextuple

[runic sky]

I am not familiar with the terminology, may I please have their full names so I know what you refer to?

[viscid swift]

what do you mean with "how do you use" Nahkimov

[runic sky]

Thank you

What are the differences between them if you dont mind me asking? Is one distinctly better than the other in any way or are they just mild stat alterations?

[slim dawn]

what team

i know she needs to be in an specific team

[viscid swift]

Sextuple has better Alpha but the Toomba has more range

[viscid swift]

She doesn't

[slim dawn]

like northern parliament excllusive

[runic sky]

I C, thanks

[viscid swift]

Lol no

She wants Soyuz most of the time but that's about it

And even then it's not exactly a strict requirements

Where ever did you hear such nonsense from

[slim dawn]

uhu ok

i always avoided using her becuase of htat

ah fuck i think i had a stroke

[soft raft]

She only needs to be with another Russian with a slow effect to upgrade her own slow into a freeze

[viscid swift]

I mean

[rigid onyx]

she doesn't 'need' the stop but the second Russian slow is necessary to get it

[slim dawn]

uhuh

it's not what i expected maybe because nakhimov is at lvl 100 while haku is at lvl 118

great numbers tho

[eternal moth]

18 levels is 36% damage loss by itself, along with the loss of other stats.

[topaz smelt]

do we have any kawa comps?

[slim dawn]

damn

[wicked dawn]

So where’s the best place to farm Sandy?…. For reasons.

[eternal moth]

You don't

[cobalt rapids]

medal rotation

[wicked dawn]

Ah

Gotcha

[eternal moth]

Check to see if she's in your medal store, she'll be in CL if so

[wicked dawn]

Roger that

I’ll be real, I just want her for the meme. But that’s probably not a surprise.

[eternal moth]

She's still considered a pretty good ship, and almost required for chapter 13. There are other ships you can use, but AFAIK she's still the best AA ship in the game.

[cobalt rapids]

i mean shes the number one aa ship ingame by far and shes also great dps

[wicked dawn]

Oh I already knew she was numbah wan.

[topaz smelt]

idk about required for 13

[eternal moth]

That's why I said almost.

She's also really strong in 15 right?

[topaz smelt]

with what we have today you can pretty much do 13 without AA

[cobalt rapids]

i mean shes top aa with good dmg and good tankiness so shes a top pick for 15

or 14 or any campaign

[topaz smelt]

shes just good

[wicked dawn]

Wish I could still get her stage but oh well

That was years ago.

[eternal moth]

Are you sure it isn't available?

[wicked dawn]

I checked the dorm store thing.

Unless I just straight up missed it.

[cobalt rapids]

mightve been an event but idr which

[strange path]

Not a gameplay question but more of a hardware one ; has anyone noticed azur lane hammering their battery health? And are there potential remedies to reduce it

[topaz smelt]

charge it

[soft raft]

I think we're still too early in the cycle to have any
iirc we're only on like lvl 8 today

[cobalt rapids]

switch to 30fps

[topaz smelt]

meta fights are typically solved before 15 now

[soft raft]

personally havent seen any CN Theorycrafting yet but maybe it does exist somewhere

[atomic abyss]

8 was last reset

today shd be 10

[topaz smelt]

so far the fights looking like an eld check so anyone who missed her looks fucked

[wicked obsidian]

hay,,,, i am getting a warning "Mood is very low.If i Attack Affinity will be reduced." Is it a very big deal....or can i ignore and keep attacking.........?????

[cobalt rapids]

let ur ship girls rest and put em in dorm

[soft raft]

XP gain will be cut in half

[wicked obsidian]

Already Max so aint ganing any EXP

[cobalt rapids]

u lose ur affinity

[atomic abyss]

and thus stats

[cobalt rapids]

and u have to deal with that popup every attack which is a pia

[atomic abyss]

why are you even using max level ships

[wicked obsidian]

i am farming D1

cant rest

[atomic abyss]

take a break go do opsi

[topaz smelt]

why are you in d1 with maxed ships?

[wicked obsidian]

I die when i try to do D2

[soft raft]

even with those maxed ships?

[paper walrus]

damn only 7 months

[topaz smelt]

somethings definitely wrong and im probably not capable of fixing this

[wicked obsidian]

yeah..They ony Max lvled...no good gear or refort

[atomic abyss]

how maxed is maxed even

[wicked obsidian]

lvl 100

[atomic abyss]

thats not maxed

[wicked obsidian]

like they have some awakening thig now

[atomic abyss]

awaken them

asap

[wicked obsidian]

thats gonna need coins

[atomic abyss]

very little for 100-105 tho

uncap them and work on opsi ig

[wicked obsidian]

opsi ig ?

[atomic abyss]

operation siren, i guess

[wicked obsidian]

ow..yeah..it unlocked..but didn't even had time to go there...

[atomic abyss]

now you do

[wicked obsidian]

Actually i dont....sill dont have Lion

[strange path]

Farm campaign for coins

[cobalt rapids]

its not obtainable for now indeed

[wicked obsidian]

i am only in ch 6

[topaz smelt]

i doubt theyre in w12

[strange path]

If you can do D3 it’s a reliable source of coins

[tame jungle]

well we're talking about how he can't do d1 so...

[atomic abyss]

take a break to do opsi

uncap your ships

[tame jungle]

or d2, whatever

[soft raft]

he cant even do D2 i doubt he can do D3

[wicked obsidian]

do opsi give coins...

[atomic abyss]

no

[strange path]

Ah i did not see that my bad

[atomic abyss]

your morale is down tho

opsi doesnt use morale

[topaz smelt]

where did you dump your coins to begin with? you shouldnt have much to spend it on at this point

[atomic abyss]

building for lion ig

[topaz smelt]

oh right forgot an events still running

[soft raft]

Who gets the Lion gun out of BisZwei, Soyuz, and Alsace while I continue to raise Lion's skills

[atomic abyss]

als no?

[tender girder]

which gun for lion? (current)
which gun for lion assuming i can +13 any of them?

[topaz smelt]

typically a debuffer

[wicked obsidian]

and still didnt get her ..and only pulled 120 times now

[atomic abyss]

depends on where you using her

[tender girder]

general bossing?

[tame jungle]

general bossing is not a thing

[soft raft]

that doesnt help much

[topaz smelt]

iirc soy goes first with liongun

[crisp vine]

One question, i get pr felix schultz its okay out her somewhere here?

[atomic abyss]

she is a better z23

[crisp vine]

I see, thanks and hindenburg?

[atomic abyss]

one of the best vanguard DPSes

needless to say, this assumes dev 30

[crisp vine]

Well, it wouldn't be the problem, i find this Old account and i have a lot A LOT pr materials for germans mommys

Well, now i remember why i choose german mommys over diffrent fraction lmao

[atomic abyss]

hinden uses rainbow BPs

not the gold BPs

i doubt you have 513

[crisp vine]

I have more gold tho, but still i have somes

[atomic abyss]

until felix is d30 you wont be using her
same with hinden

i would consider raising fdg first instead
since she can be coined

[crisp vine]

Well, so you can Tell me for who put hinde and fdg, so i will know

[atomic abyss]

fdg BPs can be exchanged for with coins

[soft raft]

besides what ender said, why are you focusing on PR6?

[atomic abyss]

hinden BPs you can only get from regular research or selectors

so prioritise unlocking fdg first

then you can use the coins everyday to max her

and save the selectors for hinden or whoever

[crisp vine]

Why are we talking about why i choose this ship not others when my question is, for who swap this two ships?

[atomic abyss]

you wont be using hinden for a long time

so come back and ask when hinden is max dev

a non maxed hinden isnt replacing anyone

[soft raft]

im mainly just curious because you dont look like you have FdG and the PR4 ships (which are higher priority overall)

[atomic abyss]

your team will likely have changed substantially by the time you get a max dev hinden

[crisp vine]

I see, so my anserw is "why not" actually i have a lot of amount of time to max everything in game, so just chillin

[pseudo hearth]

First of all, put Helena in the middle. She's squishy. Roon has no business being in the middle, she's a tank. Second, I'd recommend you try and replace Prinz Eugen with someone else, as she's a pretty bad ship.

[atomic abyss]

that's eugen muse

and frankly, maybe better than using a 5* kron lol

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, I didn't want to overload info, so I didn't bring that up yet.

[atomic abyss]

anyways eugen isnt a bad ship

[pseudo hearth]

She's a meat shield.

[atomic abyss]

ok, and?

[soft raft]

that's like her entire point
so it is what it is
she may be bad overall but she certainly does the job she does

[tame jungle]

she's good at not dying which is what you want from a tank

[atomic abyss]

the issue with eugen is prioritising raising her over someone else

[topaz smelt]

maybe like 5 years ago but today you expect a lot more from a tank

[atomic abyss]

and clearly he has played long enough to not have an issue with gold bulins

you can do a lot worse than eugen

[crisp vine]

Fine, if you have better idea in building mobber and bosser, there you are

[pseudo hearth]

There are plenty of ships that are meat shields, but they all do something more, like support or damage.

[atomic abyss]

also

it's quite clear this guy isnt a meta player

[viscid swift]

don't partially limit break your URs for one

[topaz smelt]

today the vgs expectation is to live and clear trash to minimize targets for backline or buff them

[atomic abyss]

so if you want to make "meta" recommendations

you gotta cater to what he wants lol

[crisp vine]

I want, pass events pve (11-0 rn) and other stuff like meta

[atomic abyss]

you shd be able to slaughter 12 with those lol

[topaz smelt]

tbh that img has too much text

[viscid swift]

maybe after some more levels

[pseudo hearth]

It looks like your Brennus might be MLB, that's a much better choice tbh

[atomic abyss]

tbh you should actually update your tierlist

[topaz smelt]

nah

go support another one

[atomic abyss]

oh serious?

gotcha

[soft raft]

lol

[pseudo hearth]

Or are you farming XP for German PRs? In which case, limit break Roon Muse.

[atomic abyss]

i feel this has happened again but lol

[crisp vine]

Probably yeah, i go back to sandy and have a lot german mommys

[pseudo hearth]

IDK what that means but ok

[crisp vine]

But as I say, i have a lot of time so, rn i want just push content thats all

[atomic abyss]

anyways

if you want your german mommys

prioritise getting friederich de grosse
do not use selectors on her

then get agir

also do not use selectors on her

use coins to exchange for their blueprints

[pseudo hearth]

AvP after maybe?

[viscid swift]

put it like this, dev 30ing someone like Hindenburg is gonna take 3-4 months minimum

[atomic abyss]

possibly yes

[crisp vine]

Anyway i ask about building team, why are we still talking about pr ships for lord sake

[frosty shell]

Speaking of FDG I’m close to getting her, how do I use her effectively

[viscid swift]

with consistent research focus on PR6

[atomic abyss]

if she is your first UR
throw her in your boss fleet once dev 30

if you have lion

[topaz smelt]

realistically what are newbs gonna use their selectors on

[soft raft]

later on you can slap FdG in mobbing instead

[atomic abyss]

lion in boss, friederich in mob

[frosty shell]

My UR BBs are will be NJ, Lion, Rafaello, and FDG

[viscid swift]

Mob: Nelson, Perseus, Bearn META, Roon, Z23, Brenus
Boss: NJ, Enterprise, Alvitr, Carl, Helena, Eugen

that'll easily get you to W12

[crisp vine]

And later?

[atomic abyss]

ask when you have those ships at dev 30/mlb

[viscid swift]

ask when you get replacements and such

just know if you want to get FDG, and Hindenburg into usable states, you got a good few months of work ahead of you

also you might want to consider buying more dock space

[crisp vine]

Dear lord nvm

Dw about my dock Space, i have more than enough for now

[viscid swift]

sure....

[tame jungle]

lol

[crisp vine]

50 ships are grey, dw about it

[frosty shell]

That just reminded me to go expand my docks

[atomic abyss]

they prolly retire ships they dont like

[pseudo hearth]

Just to remind you, common ships can still be useful for things. And also, late game, you'll end up wanting a lot of them back, because you get tech points and stats for MLBing ships and getting them to lvl 120 in general. This generally increases the stats for all your ships.

[tame jungle]

i doubt they care

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, it's still a good thing to warn someone about

[topaz smelt]

99% of players quit before they hit that point

and the other 1% spent too much to quit

[atomic abyss]

im obliged to remind people that tech farming doesnt exist for most players

outside of faction tech to unlock their waifus lol

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, this is arguably important for him right now considering he wants all the German waifus

[frosty shell]

And he has phenomenal taste

[pseudo hearth]

Although, he might have enough already, IDK, I don't feel like doing the math

[viscid swift]

this is from 2023

[atomic abyss]

if he can work on felix

he can work on agir and fdg

getting those would be enough for hinden

[crisp vine]

I see, thats interesting, i will save some german ships then

[pseudo hearth]

Tbh, I don't even remember the tech requirements for newer ships, because I haven't had to worry about that since like PR1 or PR2

[atomic abyss]

just need 950 for hinden

felix is 850

agir is 700

fdg 630

[crisp vine]

I see you are worry ing so much about pr ships, felix is in 23lv now if that ease your pain

[viscid swift]

well you really want ships at Dev 30 minimum

and Felix's FS5 isn't a bad step up either

[atomic abyss]

i mean, where else are you getting your "german mommys" lol

at least assuming they're not limited

we only have your preferences in mind

[crisp vine]

I dont know, why you even behave like this? I say germans mommy just for meme, and you still saying that, i came here for help and only this guy Ryza Collab actually anserw my question, what is your problem bud?

[pseudo hearth]

Idk if it counts for you, but Flandre is half German

[tame jungle]

why do you behave like this

[atomic abyss]

because

we cant tell you're meming?

we assume people here are serious?

and we try to give recommendations based on that?

[viscid swift]

yeah....

[pseudo hearth]

There’s plenty of players who play this game just for the “German Mommies”

[crisp vine]

I see, you have clearly problem there

[pseudo hearth]

[atomic abyss]

I should be the one asking

[tame jungle]

yeah you're normal mate, have a good one

[soft raft]

you have no idea how many german simps that have come thru this channel before

[atomic abyss]

Why are you behaving this way lol

[viscid swift]

the amount of IB simps in this game is proportionally higher than those for any other faction

[atomic abyss]

Well, I am sorry for assuming you weren't "memeing"
If you want to meme, meme elsewhere.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/522659170235973632/1381722591575937034/image.png

[frosty shell]

Anyway I can refine these, particularly my vanguard

[tame jungle]

depends on what you have

[viscid swift]

yes, but whether you can right now depends on what you have to work with

[frosty shell]

Here’s the people I’ve got lvls on

[viscid swift]

Fu Shun replaces Laffey

San Fran replaces Portland but really I want to see NJ and Illustrious replaced

[soft raft]

(NJ mainly gets the boot here because 0LB UR moment, not because she's terrible)

[topaz smelt]

lb0 is terrible

[viscid swift]

1 not 0 but yeah

[soft raft]

ah yeah 1lb

[frosty shell]

Here’s my main fleets with lvls

[soft raft]

at this point move to a thread

[pseudo hearth]

And share your Elite and Rare main fleet ships as well

[viscid swift]

NJ stays for now until Lion is leveled up, Theseus or Hornet 2 could replace Illustrious but probably not worth the effort of leveling up at this point

nah, unecessary

[pseudo hearth]

alright. It’s just that there’s a lot of ships here not MLB

[frosty shell]

Kind of neglected that, sorry

[viscid swift]

as much as I don't think that much of Illustrious nothing much among rares or elites would be substantially better

[atomic abyss]

lusty w/ aug

[frosty shell]

I’m running lusty with aug so hopefully that changed things

[distant glen]

You have nothing to apologize for. Only to your ship girls for failing them.

[viscid swift]

uhhhhh

[viscid swift]

not really tbh

[hollow gust]

Tico slander

[strange path]

Should i not use fdg until she’s dev30?

[flint sonnet]

Is the commanders handbook retroactive? So I mean can I complete a pr4 ship before I have the “complete a pr4 ship” mission and then the mission will clear when I unlock it?

Or do should I wait to complete my pr4 ship until after I unlock the mission?

[fair lance]

It was retroactive before the new player missions reset so should be.

[soft raft]

the research missions are retroactive and your progress on those didnt get wiped

[quick grotto]

So are you just not able to retrofit Eldridge if you missed the event?

[kind slate]

Is it worth getting sandy retrofit

[tame jungle]

she's very good but also very expensive

[soft raft]

yuh
tho you only have to wait like 1 year or so for the event to rerun compared to regular events

[quick grotto]

So it should rerun in August?

[soft raft]

If you can get her unique aug, her retro can be delayed a bit since the aug can make up for her pre-retro version's lack of DPS

[soft raft]

no confirmation yet but most likely

[kind slate]

wait so she’s fine with aug for w15? Or for that she needs retro

[soft raft]

by that point you should have her retrofitted

[topaz smelt]

the retros more important than the aug

[kind slate]

right so if I’ve finished w14, retro is a good idea

[topaz smelt]

well i figured out a eld-less comp, this meta is pretty much solved

[turbid marsh]

I mean if you have de zeven provinces, its a suitable replacement if you REALLY don't want to retro+aug sandy. but de zeven only has small heals and best aa, nothing else while sandy has top 3 aa, decent asw, decent sea damage and stuff.

[kind slate]

Whos de zeven

[kind slate]

cute. Where can I get her?

[soft raft]

What's it looking like?

[tame jungle]

tulipa event so see you in 2 years

[viscid swift]

she's event limited

[topaz smelt]

raff

[kind slate]

frick

[soft raft]

[turbid marsh]

oh you didn't get her from the event like a month ago?

[kind slate]

So retro sandy is a good idea? My main concern is her being redundant because I already have guam shimanto and other ships already

[kind slate]

I was rlly busy then so I couldn’t play much

[pseudo hearth]

If you have the materials yes. Sandy is very good.

[soft raft]

you're gonna need quite alot of AA for W15 so the more the better

for reference I put Guam/Shimanto/Laffey II as my mob vanguard

[kind slate]

Sheesh. Kk thnx guys

[dreamy blade]

sandy number one

[turbid marsh]

sandy is recommended then. very good barrage + team aa, just kinda frail.

[dreamy blade]

not frail at all lol

[pseudo hearth]

She can off-tank in certain comps I find.

[kind slate]

Also another question. How can you tell whether a cl ship wants a dd or cl gun? Like Sirius apparently wants a dd main gun?

[turbid marsh]

when compared to other w15-3 beaters, like shimanto, guam laff z52 eld and stuff, still top notch for sure.

[dreamy blade]

unless they have a skill that specifies, dd gun is always better (on vanguard ships)

[viscid swift]

pretty much all such ships want DD guns

[pseudo hearth]

Most CLs want DD guns IIRC

[kind slate]

Oh wow I did not know that

[viscid swift]

the only exceptions are Otto and Felix

[turbid marsh]

weird dds

[quartz nest]

Idk where else to ask but what was the official statement about the skins removed from the shop, will they return ever? Bunny shinano, napoli and the others

[pseudo hearth]

The DD gun DPS is usually much better for a lot of cruisers

[dreamy blade]

[topaz smelt]

cant really use the sheet for something like w15

[kind slate]

Does that go for bb subguns as well?

[turbid marsh]

wait what, shimanto = sandy in ehp? that i didn't know. always expected shimanto a lot tankier

[viscid swift]

scroll back a few months in #game-news or lool through AL Official's Twitter posts
and who knows

[kind slate]

Like the twin American one

[viscid swift]

no

[pseudo hearth]

Not usually. The only time you're going to equip DD secondaries for a BB is if that's the only secondaries they can equip.

[topaz smelt]

tbh i find the dd subguns on par with plyguns for intercept

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, I don't doubt they're useful in specific cases

[dreamy blade]

yeah twin137 is very good, cl guns are usually preferred bc of the higher fp stat

[topaz smelt]

the only time you really care about fp is non campaign

[strange path]

What ships should i work on from Pr1 - 3 while i get more Sakura and Eagle tech points; i dont have enough points for Anchorage and for any sakura ships outside Pr1 , or should i rush the last 100 tech points and start anchorage?

[soft raft]

FdG and Cheshire are really the only majorly relevant ones from PR1-3

and Ibuki if you get her aug

[topaz smelt]

its just rush uss and kms tech for fdg and pr4

[strange path]

i got fdg earlier today

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, tbf most of PR1 is fairly good because of the augments

At varying levels though

[strange path]

Got it, so i can not worry about Sakura tech points?

[dreamy blade]

eventually you will so you can get haku, but not a priority compared to ancho

[topaz smelt]

pr1 augs are typically out of budget for newbs due to how much coin they need for pr

[strange path]

The only Pr1 i have dev30 is Roon, and i can get her augment +10 right now is that worth the investment? I havent looked at augments in general are they just bonus stats?

[pseudo hearth]

Normal augments are usually bonus stats + mini skills. However, unique augments offer bonus stats + upgrades to one of the ship's skills. Think of it like an extra fate sim in regards to skill upgrades (obviously without the added luck stat).

[dreamy blade]

her augment is huge so if you want to keep using her then yes

[strange path]

Will do

[dreamy blade]

makes her do more dmg than drake

[pseudo hearth]

Although, I'd ask what world you're at first, because coin farming becomes easier at a certain point.

[strange path]

I havent made it to world 12 im on 11

[topaz smelt]

not a high prio tho, youre likely to just replace her with better ships

[strange path]

But i also havent been pushing im pretty sure i can get to 12

I camped at 9-4 until i finished fdg

And i can only get one unique augment to +10 would it be better to put on Sandy because she’s always going to be relatively useful?

[pseudo hearth]

If Roon is a waifu ship for you, knock yourself out and then try and at least try and start farming 12-1. If not, you'd be better spending coins before then on other stuff tbh.

[dreamy blade]

sandys augment is very good but you dont need to worry about it until at least youve reached 12-4

[pseudo hearth]

Do you have her Retrofitted?

[strange path]

Yes

[paper walrus]

is it worth to continue pulling in the limited banner to save a UR bulin if you have a lot of cubes

[viscid swift]

how much is a lot, are you short on UR Bullins, do you have Bismarck Zwei? etc

[topaz smelt]

your cubes, your choice

[paper walrus]

1k, i dont have zwei and i have exactly enough bulins to mlb her when i get her

[pseudo hearth]

Sandy's aug increases her DPS a good amount. I'll ask though, is Roon a waifu ship for you? Like is she a ship you specifically like? Or are you just using her for gameplay reasons?

[viscid swift]

sure if you want to I guess but if you're keeping up with UR Bullins I wouldn't feel the need to pull for dupes

[topaz smelt]

until we get 8 urs/year

[slow fox]

I was about to mention that, when looking for W14/15 specifically, that you should look at the W14/15 column. Then I realized they have the same armor type so go ham. San Diego has more eHP in W15 due to her high AA stat.

When I say "more," I mean half a percent.

[dreamy blade]

huge

[soft raft]

lol

[slow fox]

Yeah, I guess that's huge. It's about like 1 LCK improvement in eHP.

[paper walrus]

i was thinking i could go for trafalgar as well since she requires 1 less

[pseudo hearth]

Sandy the comeback kid

[turbid marsh]

interesting indeed, always thought sandy quite frail compared to z52 and shimanto eh? turns out z52 isn't that much tankier as well

[viscid swift]

both are very good in their own right

[pseudo hearth]

She doesn't need to tank planes if they're all dead

[slow fox]

San Diego's augment improved her eHP by some degree.

She's always been 100+, though.

[dreamy blade]

z52 is tanky everywhere vs sandy and shimanto are specifically tanky when there are lots of enemy planes (like w13/w15)

[topaz smelt]

interesting how everyone suggests z52 tanks and never sandy

[turbid marsh]

oh that i didn't account, but shouldn't increase that much anyways. i was still using brest-sandy-shimanto when i finished w15

[viscid swift]

those were the days

kids these days with their Guam's, Laffey 2's, Z52's, Eldridge retro's, Trafalgar's

[topaz smelt]

kids have it easy

[slow fox]

You're right. It didn't increase that much, but our scale of "much" is filled with 140+ darlings. The result of that is we get sudden spooky 112 San Diego.

[turbid marsh]

gasp

wait it went from 112 to 135?

[slow fox]

It goes from 112 to 135 when you change the context of the eHP, from general to W14/15.

-# It's a different environment, with different enemies and bulletmods.

[dreamy blade]

what is the standard column based on then? w12 dmg distro?

[slow fox]

It's literally just the average of the other columns.

[topaz smelt]

its one of those it makes more sense if you dont question it

[slow fox]

Nah, that's just complacence. Averaging values is literally a normal thing to do.

[topaz smelt]

not for this game

[slow fox]

-# I would be ecstatic to know how this game changes the mathematics of finding aggregate values.

[dreamy blade]

that sign cant stop me because i cant read do math

[topaz smelt]

you take 3 fights, one 1 shots light, another 1 shots med and another 1 shots heavy, and average them what do you get?

theres a reason why theres no general fleets and loadouts for this game

[slow fox]

I don't average the bulletmods, (unless in W14/15, which I haven't compiled the data for) - I average the eHPs. If you're proposing that any one particular fight reduces the eHP of a shipgirl down to zero, that zero will be included in the average calculation. This reduces her general eHP.

On the point of having no general fleets and loadouts, that may be true for someone that's attack-damagebrained, but from an eHP standpoint it's obvious that Rudder + Toollkit is the generalized setup for cruisers. (Or Toolkit 550 is the generalized setup for DDs.) This fits the definition of a regular general setup.

Moreover, if there were fights that had bulletmods that severely punished one armor-type or some other, it would be productive to publish a separate list of eHP for that situation anyways - and perhaps exclude that fight from the considerations of generalized eHP.

This is the same reasoning that leads to the hardEX fights not being considered in eHP calculations, because the situations where such a measurement would be useful are not the hardEX fights.

The mathematics of finding aggregate values doesn't change. Perhaps the point that you're on is that the interpretation behind the way data is used changes, and I agree that that is extremely important.

[strange path]

I picked Roon up because i liked her much more than the other pr1s but i would like to plan ahead with this augment since it is a bit of a heavier investment

[topaz smelt]

I don't average the bulletmods, (unless in W14/15, which I haven't compiled the data for) - I average the eHPs.
is this not the same as getting the ehp vs ammo mod, cuz we all know you just take bullet data and calc ehp with it

armor-type or some other, it would be productive to publish a separate list of eHP for that situation anyways
a lot of fights are damage skewed, the games poor balancing and easy content allows you to run anything above a certain threshold and be fine, below that threshold is where youll see inconsistencies.

and its not just armor being a factor, a lot of it is also related to movement which is not reflected

[slow fox]

It's the same as getting eHP vs ammo mod IF AND ONLY IF the attacking enemy has the same HIT/LCK/LVL stats. This is true for the boss fights, which allows the math to be simplified like that. This is NOT TRUE for W14/15, which has different enemies attacking you. Ironically, I'm averaging the bulletmods for W14/15, but calcing separate eHPs for the boss fights.

The existence of this "certain threshold" at all invokes the notion of a generalized eHP. I'm curious as to where we'd be able to find this threshold. I'm also curious to see whether or not we can measure the inconsistencies increasing as ships approach the threshold from above. Inconsistencies in measured ship eHP (from purely being hit, not geometric hit) is covered in the eHP theory. This is present in the 3STD column. You may note that many ship's wildly varying performance provides HUGE overlap with everyone else. This is intended behavior of the model. An average is an average. Your mileage may vary. Etc etc.

Inconsistencies in ship lifetime from geometric hit from movement and enemy bullet patterns is NOT covered in eHP theory, though it is not a lost problem. Since our ships are stuck together, just normalize the damage taken to the ship's lifetime. (The formal way to do this is with a convolution, but I don't have the damage distributino function of the enemy.)

[eager mulch]

[topaz smelt]

its just a weighted average of ammo mods based on hit rate. theyre all just multipliers in the end.
its still lacking a reasonable weight per sample, which i understand is stupid amounts of work. but this info will help more accurately reflect how much more skewed damage is towards an armor type.

movement is a whole another cancer i dont expect ppl to figure out without sims

[pseudo hearth]

How easy is it for IB only fleets to do W15 these days? Now that we’ve gotten some better AA boats for the faction.

[slow fox]

Now you're thinking like a real eHP patriot. They ARE all just multipliers in the end. The enemy bullet patterns are also just a multiplier onto the lifetime. So will movement (convolution mentioned).
-# Everything can be modeled

Getting the reasonable weights is coming soon.™️

[dreamy blade]

eDPS chart when

[soft raft]

probably like marginally better
Z52 can only do so much by herself when she's the only AA carry in the faction

[topaz smelt]

prob not hard if you just fish for easy nodes

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, some of the CLs still have pretty good AA (and Z46 IIRC).

[dreamy blade]

z46's aug makes her AA barely serviceable for w13 let alone 15

[slow fox]

I need to do PortDPS and check it against literally everyone first.

[topaz smelt]

you need to be alive to do dps

[slow fox]

mutsuki

[topaz smelt]

%mutsuki dps

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, we’ve been getting more IB ships that are trying to balance out the bad AA dps in faction teams.

[storm olive]

%drake because she is an event gold CA now

[forest palm]

Bar hasn't moved that radically
may as well throw Azuma under the bus while you're at it

[supple ember]

should i use her copy to limit break or should i save it for something else?

[viscid swift]

limit break

[soft raft]

There is zero pratical justification for raising dupes of any kind

[daring flower]

Hii lol is there any reason to build a fleet of the same.. uh factionn

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

No
Faction fleets are often a form of self griefing, even if you UR spam

[daring flower]

Idr why but I made like 2 fleets all faction aligned.. idk if it was for research ships collecting exp or not lmfao

[simple ice]

so, i claimed one of the many maintenance compansations i still have in my mail, when i click them it says claimed, but i dont get the ressources at all ?. does that get sent somwhere ?

[simple ice]

oh

thx for the info, i never would have found that

[daring flower]

Omfg thats amazing I just found 126k in coins XDD

[topaz vector]

My fleet is failing at ch 7 what should I do?

[forest palm]

5 Ships aren't MLB and you have no Healer

[weary gust]

Stop using non mlb characters for one.

Your Trafalgar and Bremerton are useless. Cleo is very meh of a unit. VV and Howe are missing 80% of their damage.

Not to mention Howe, VV, and Bremerton are level capped so you're wasting exp.

[forest palm]

still the biggest offense is a lack of a healer

[dreamy blade]

youre going to want to replace everyone except lion and cleo

[forest palm]

also stop working on a second fleet

[weary gust]

I wonder where are all his bulins? He only has 5 worth spent, and that's if he got no dupes at all for Cleo.

[soft raft]

Give this a read, you clearly need it
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[supple ember]

is it possible to unlock all locked ships at once?

[viscid swift]

what

[viscid swift]

I don't get the question.

[supple ember]

ships you have locked

can you unlock them all or do i have to unlock them individually

[viscid swift]

you have to unlock them all individually

[topaz vector]

I have several bulins which ships is worth spending

[supple ember]

ugh....

this game needs a lot of qol improvements

[dreamy blade]

i cant say that i have ever wanted to mass unlock ships in my dock...

[viscid swift]

what, what are you even planning to do lamo

[dreamy blade]

they are locked for a reason

[soft raft]

do you want to accidentially retire all of your raised ships or something

[viscid swift]

right now just continue with just one fleet of Lion, Unicorn, Black Rock Shooter, Portland, Helena, Cleo

max limit break everyone in that fleet when you can

[orchid scarab]

should i level up purple gears or wait till i can get gold ones?

im currently on 7-4

[soft raft]

/equip give this a read first for what's considered good

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[soft raft]

cuz like 98% of the gold gear in this game sucks complete ass

[viscid swift]

don't assume higher rarity automatically means better in this game
some purple gear is better than the vast majority of gold gear

[supple ember]

i only have it set to only retire the 2 lowest rarities lol

[viscid swift]

I still don't quite understand what you're trying to do

if you're trying to unlock and retire already leveled ships, tough break but that's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes

[orchid scarab]

oh alr alr thanks guys

[whole crypt]

why would mass unlocking be a qol option in a collection game

[topaz smelt]

just whale

[eager mulch]

need to clear more space for more amagi-chans

[topaz smelt]

[orchid scarab]

Who's better nelson or Nevada meta?

At mobbing I mean

[shut phoenix]

which proto weapon blueprint should i get and which weapon?

[supple ember]

no im just looking to unlock ships, i didnt mention selling them the other guy did

[shut phoenix]

[viscid swift]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[supple ember]

guessi just gotta unlock them 1 by 1...

[viscid swift]

Nelson

[shut phoenix]

thanks

[orchid scarab]

Oh alr alr, I'll retrofit nelson then

[viscid swift]

Why are you looking to mass unlock ships and not dispose of them

[supple ember]

to see what i have dupes of to LB some are locked and i didnt notice i had dupes until i saw them in my dock, i couldnt see them in the LB screen cause they were locked

[soft raft]

a better question is why the hell are you locking every single dupe

[viscid swift]

You know you can change the filters in the LB screen to show locked ships right

You can also unlock them from there

[supple ember]

im not its from having the auto lock on for years, and trying to LB i noticed i had a bunch locked

[supple ember]

i did not know that

[quick grotto]

Is the Neptune gun considered bis for Neptune to use generally?

[soft raft]

nope

[soft raft]

that's a feature? Bruh 💀

[orchid scarab]

What ammo type should I put on nelson?

[viscid swift]

no

[supple ember]

yeah...

[topaz smelt]

how often do you actually want ap guns in campaign aside from 457?

[orchid scarab]

Thxx

[wind oxide]

Hey what do I put on aux for Trafalgar if I don't have any of those goldburn or those flashy stuff?

[wind hazel]

toolkit+hp aux

[wind oxide]

How bout an autoloader?

[wind hazel]

only if she;s surviving and you need the rld for 113

[topaz smelt]

traf doesnt care about rld

[viscid swift]

I mean for mobbing and campaign bossing I'd take the AP guns over an Mk6, especially in W14

Mk7 and Lion gun are a bit more up in the air but given the cost of crafting an Mk7

[wind oxide]

👍

[topaz smelt]

boss is kinda dependent on who it is
but in w14 i kinda prefer HE cuz it tends to aim for repair ships first, which ap guns wont take out
and you have 2 cvs that already does well vs heavy

[forest palm]

You can brute force 14 with AP, but then 14-3 would be rather punishing

[viscid swift]

fair enough

[wind oxide]

Shit's real
I experienced that

[forest palm]

The general opinion is that 14-3 is more difficult than 14-4

[topaz smelt]

idk it kinda depends on the fleet as well, ik repair ships tend to spawn in wave 2 so if the bb goes first, you prob prefer HE

[viscid swift]

I have honestley never specified anyone to switch to HE for 14-3 and it has never really been an issue
heck even when I cleared 14-3 I forgot to change to HE and didn't really feel it

[topaz smelt]

the threats usually the bbs anyways rather than the boss in w14

[viscid swift]

yeah

[wind hazel]

3 more difficult than 4?

[forest palm]

I've noticed that in this channel

[topaz smelt]

im just asking for insight cuz i dont think ive ever seen ppl recc ap guns for campaign

it tends to just be 457 and mk7

[viscid swift]

I guess part of it stems from the many times when neither was an option

and even now I don't really feel it's necessary to go tell someone to craft an Mk7, the AP guns have always worked well enough

[livid plume]

Im new to game, should I be pulling dupes of NJ and Lion or just get 1 of each and stop?

[whole crypt]

ammo node issue, usually

[slow fox]

My BBs always run AP guns

[viscid swift]

just stop and save for future events, also don't pull on heavy or special, save for events

[whole crypt]

don't even pull for NJ, LB with bulins

[soft raft]

just stop
also why did you go for NJ this soon

[topaz smelt]

some to think of it ive never really tried AP in 14 cuz abundance of light, so idk how it compares

[livid plume]

I just saw hot ships and pulled, How can I know what banners are worth pulling on?

[soft raft]

Give this guide a read as well before you start crying why your fleet dies on W7 like someone else was earlier
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[viscid swift]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop

also read this if you haven't

[topaz smelt]

all i rmbr is it feels really terrible when 457 shoots the repair ship cuz most of the entire salvo is wasted

[whole crypt]

usually we recommend saving to only pull on new banners specifically new URs like this one, and bail as soon as you get the ship

[soft raft]

• UR banner: Absolute must
• Regular event banner: your most worthwhile bet if you want perma ships as it takes from either Heavy or Special to fill out the pool
• Light pool: 1 light per day outside of events and when you're done with the event banner

[elfin hollow]

Currently im using this team and i feel like my front side deals low damage can i replace laffey with chikuma or any of these

[soft raft]

first off swap Portland and Laffey around
and also consider getting better gear

[elfin hollow]

With who

[viscid swift]

limit break your ships more

[soft raft]

swap Portland and Laffey around
IE Swap their positions

[viscid swift]

also replace Pennsylvania with Black Rock Shooter

[elfin hollow]

But they are already at second limit break

[livid plume]

are the UR banners like arknights limited events where theyre like every 3 months or are they just random?

[soft raft]

that laffey sure isnt
and she's doing jack shit being in the main tank spot

[viscid swift]

Laffey isn't, at least in that screen shot

[topaz smelt]

i prob need to revise the starter fleet a bit

[elfin hollow]

Lack of gold sorry on that part

[viscid swift]

not every 3 months

new UR events drop every Late February, Late May, Mid September, and Late December

old UR events rerun in between and can happen at pretty much anytime

[soft raft]

New gacha URs in Feb, May, Sept, and Dec
May and Sept go for 3 weeks instead of the usual 2 because of Chinese exam season and JP being the most profitable region (at least I think that's why) respectively

[viscid swift]

no

CN is because of exams(Gao Kao), not sure about JP but the scheduling of the JP Anni events has pretty much always been longer than 2 weeks

[wind oxide]

They extend just for exams 😭

[soft raft]

Yes
The devs are chinese so it makes sense they would take into account their own exams

[viscid swift]

Gao Kao isn't just another exam exactly

it's literally the deciding factor of whether you can go to High School, College, etc

[strange path]

Does Helena appear in Fleet Tech? I cant find her

[viscid swift]

yes

[strange path]

Oh i see she’s in the pop up

Are any of these super rares worth mlb? Just trying to get 40 tech points for anchorage

[fallen jay]

Hey guys its me again. So I just unlocked the Gear Lab what do I focus on first?

I looked through the pins in this channel and didnt see anything on it

[viscid swift]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[viscid swift]

some converging TBs(Ju-87ds and Wyverns first)

[fallen jay]

why is that image so small and hard to see? even when zoomed in?

Is there a larger version?

[viscid swift]

it's a preview, best to open the full version on a new tab

[fallen jay]

Oh you mean like in chrome?

[soft raft]

yeah

[fallen jay]

this thing is very confusing any advice on how to understand it?

[soft raft]

(And the higher it is, the better it is)

[strange path]

its showing you the priority of items to focus later in the game, while you have gear lab unlocked you may not be able to staet creating gear because the good gear as shown in the graph outlined in red tends to require different materials that you probably dont have

[topaz smelt]

tbh theres too many stuff on the 1st row so its kinda confusing newbs

[viscid swift]

yeah, really a mess

[fallen jay]

alot of it is saying that i dont have even one piece of the equipment or resources to make even the lowest level gear...

[topaz smelt]

kinda needs to be revised too

[fallen jay]

nor does it tell me where i can go to acquire it

[strange path]

some of the items are labeled this is the closest non gear lab limited precursor equipment

you can get the items needed for gear lab crafting in opsi

[fallen jay]

what does any of that mean? its making me nervous for some reason

[fallen jay]

in what?

[strange path]

ok in the picture, there's purple equipment

the purple equipment is what u can get without needing to craft it

you can find all relatively good equipment and or poverty alternatives here

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

it sorts by ship and is a quick guide to gear although it's also pretty overwhelming

the short answer is any purple gear that appears on this is probably(?) good enough until u can craft good gear (gear lab)

[fallen jay]

this whole thing is overwhelming...its got my head spinning

[soft raft]

Simply put, you farm operation siren to get gear lab materials

And no, there aren't specific locations to grind specific materials

[cedar perch]

Hey I’m a bit new to the game, does anyone know how good is lion?

[strange path]

that's what i said last week when i was also trying to read the guide haha dont worry

[soft raft]

This sounds more like you're overanalyzing something you're not ready for yet

[topaz smelt]

this is my wip progression list ill some day add it to the site

[fair lance]

Extremely good

[soft raft]

Very cracked
Provided she's at MLB (IE Full stars), of course

Pretty decent if you're new

[fair lance]

Black rock shooter is good for a BC dead master is mediocre.

[cedar perch]

Ah… yeah I only got one UR bulin rn💀

[fallen jay]

I am. I just really want to get into the game and story and collect the waifus...

[strange path]

dont worry gearlab isnt important right now

may i ask what level you are?

[fallen jay]

I feel like a caveman discovering fire playing Azur Lane

Im Commander level 60

[topaz smelt]

youll start caring about it in a month or 2

[strange path]

yeah definitely not important right now

[fallen jay]

caring about what?

[strange path]

im assuming they were referring to gear lab

[topaz smelt]

just try to figure out how to tolerate opsi in a week

[fallen jay]

should i use one of my SR bulins to limit break Hood once? Shes at level 70 now

I have 4 SR bulins I just really dont wanna waste them.

[strange path]

really only upgrade stuff if you use it or ur going to use it

i mean you'll definitely come by more SR bulins

if it offers you any consolidation i have hood 125 and still use her for content

[fallen jay]

I mean I just installed her in place of Pennsylvania

who is currently sitting at level 97. and it'll be at least 22 days before i can possibly get Enterprise from the medal shop right?

[strange path]

did you already use the SR CV voucher in the medal shop?

[fallen jay]

the what?

[wind hazel]

no guarantee you will get CV medal next month

[strange path]

oh it's different for everyone i thought it was universal my bad haha

[wind hazel]

you should mlb that hood if you're using her, she'd be an upgrade for your fleet

[soft raft]

you can get SR ships in medal shop
only thing tho, is that there's 2 possibilities and its randomized for every server every month

Which also means you can end up with both of them being the same hulltype

[fallen jay]

wait what? thats going over my head so badly...does this mean i should just bite the bullet and limitbreak Hood now?

[strange path]

its not really biting a bullet hood did me much good in a lot of my gameplay

but at the same time 70% to fire the barrage it sucks when it doesnt fire

[soft raft]

yes
Hood is very good for a SR ship

And her BC hulltype comes in handy for hard mode requirements every now and then

[soft raft]

(Tho if you get her unique augment, that issue is fixed)

[strange path]

and thats at level 10, unless you have her augment

i literally looked her up on the wiki now to find out she has a unique augment

yippee

[fallen jay]

Ok i had the gold to limitbreak her 2 times. I still have 3 SR bulins left now

once i have the gold i should just upgrade her that last time right?

[strange path]

trust me SR bulins as long ur not careless limit breaking random ships you will have many

i had like 7 and then i decided to push out 150 fleet tech points now i have 2

that was not evven an hour ago

[fallen jay]

Thats why Im asking i get scared very easily when it comes to games like this

[wind hazel]

~_~

[strange path]

this is for SRs

and at a certain point you wont have SR ships worth mlb'ing and they pile up

[fallen jay]

plus ones we get from the event

[wind hazel]

aight i don't think that's gonna be true for a new player. you will always run into gold bulin issue lol

[viscid swift]

Depends honestly

The careless ones definitely do

[wind hazel]

raising good gold ships and raising the rest further for shipyard will always eat up your gold bulin

[fallen jay]

I mean I believe Hood is the first one I've used any gold bulins on at all now. and she'll be able to go to level 100 once i have enough gold for the last limitbreak

Id say Im a new player given im not a month old in this game

[left parrot]

Hood is probably the best easily accessible bc in the game, you'll be good

[strange path]

you wont have a huge SR bulin shortage as long as you are not going crazy using them

[fallen jay]

I dont plan to use any unless I ask for you guys for advice first like i did with Hood just now

[sweet delta]

buff 401 applies standard AB no matter the enemy armor.
many AP BB guns apply buff 400, which applies buff 401 iff the enemy is heavy.

[left parrot]

I mean dude honestly, there's no need to stress too hard with azur lane. It's good to ask but you don't have to worry about bricking your account because you limit broke a bad ship

[sweet delta]

i've only seen one person so far with a bricked account

[wind hazel]

🧱 deez

[left parrot]

What did they do? Spend all of the free gems on skins instead of dock space?

[wind hazel]

scrapped hedgehog and worse?

gem is easily fixed with money

[fallen jay]

...

[sweet delta]

get stuck on 11-3 for like 2 years despite playing (almost) daily and having full fleets of level 125 max limit broken UR/SR ships because they never did daily challenges and also scrapped all of their good gear and tech boxes

[stark quiver]

They suffered from massive skill issue

[wind hazel]

the legend

[fallen jay]

I mean I brought the Taihou skin...

anyway you mentioned daily challenges?

[left parrot]

That is actually impressive. You could clear 11-3 with the worst ships in the game if they're at 125

I mean he could still bounce back from that... eventually.

[stark quiver]

I believe they could not

[fallen jay]

you can scrap your tech boxes?

[viscid swift]

They could, he just didn't try

Even crafted a bloody Wyvern, still failed

[ornate narwhal]

Is the gold seafang or btd1 or twin 380 good?

[viscid swift]

OK, no, no

[left parrot]

Yeah, if he wasn't trying for 2 years then he wasnt going to magically start. Crafting a wyvern after all that is hilarious though LOL

[ornate narwhal]

Is seafang better than purple corsair?

[viscid swift]

Marginally

[plain saffron]

Open then scrap the gear. Though with recent updates you can scrap boxes directly iirc

[wind hazel]

how?

[plain saffron]

Is it the guy that keep complaining that he doesn't have any gear so he can't do anything then proceed to not do anything to help themselves

[left parrot]

The menu to scrap pops up after u open the tech box mori

[wind hazel]

that's... that's not scrapping boxes directly...

[plain saffron]

Someone lied to me then

[left parrot]

Oh yeah I read his message wrong, you can't scrap boxes directly still. My bad og

[plain saffron]

Smh i shouldn't trust gph

[wind hazel]

jail them

[wind oxide]

Well in my pov you scrap em before the gear slots into your depot so indirectly scrapping from the box yea

[keen owl]

Is there a Video of AL story in Nutshell?

[fair lance]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/534621810306580500 There's a video pinned here but it's a year or 2 old

[viscid swift]

There's an hour long one somewhere on youtube

But as usual it's behind anything after its release

[keen owl]

I got bored and decided to read the story a bit for now and Got me intrigued about Scythe Fortress moon and stuff

[sweet delta]

im intrigued by white haired maidens too

[brisk dragon]

how many hours left till event ends?

[fair lance]

Over 48hs iirc

[keen owl]

And Why is QE looks Cute with her white dress on CG thenn returns back to flat Monkeh

[rigid onyx]

i thought he was ragebaiting

[sharp pine]

So I decided to switch over to a bb fleet for Kawakaze meta. Who is a good replacement for Kazagumo?

[sweet delta]

Trafalgar

And change your Vanguard's gun to a 20s like mk6

[keen owl]

Is Lion the PVP meta now?

[sweet delta]

#pvp

[sweet delta]

Give Bisz the new Mk.II gun and NJ an HSFCR or autoloader

Btw that gun on Kazagumo is wrong, she wants the fast one like blue 76 or gold 113

[sharp pine]

Yup, I just noticed that. I have the blue 76 on her in game, I just forgot to update it on the calculator.

[sharp pine]

Which shell do I replace on NJ?

[sweet delta]

Keep white

Did you max Lion yet

[sharp pine]

No, not yet.

[marsh bison]

Hey guys uhh after A Rose on the High Tower,anymore new events worth saving cubes guys?I have all 6 event ships

[sharp pine]

If you have everyone, it's best to save regardless of what is coming up. You can mlb everyone with bulins. You don't need to pull any more.

[stark quiver]

I’m pretty sure as soon as that Eldridge stops proccing, your fleet is gonna die a horrible death

[ivory pawn]

We're expecting BisZwei soonish. Not this week, but could be any week in the future.

[sweet delta]

How can we know new events

[marsh bison]

I don’t have sr and ur bulins

[sharp pine]

You will. Just give it time.

[marsh bison]

Oh really,uh confluence of nothingness rerun?

[ivory pawn]

If that's what her event was called, yes.

[stark quiver]

I recommend running a tank instead of kaza

[sweet delta]

I already recommended Trafalgar

[marsh bison]

Well I used sr bulins and ur bulins to try lb Lion,Trafagar,Dead Master,BRS and Cleopatra

Is dead master and brs worth using btw

[sharp pine]

You can get plenty of sr bulins every month, and the ur bulins will come with time. It won't happen overnight, but it will happnen.

[marsh bison]

👌

[marsh bison]

So how can I get the most cubes in one day?

[stark quiver]

Vanguard pressure not that high? For the downtime between eld and not eld

[marsh bison]

Oh yeah I forgot

[stark quiver]

Wrong reply

[marsh bison]

I need to lb my front ships but somehow I just enhance vanguard

[topaz smelt]

That fleet looks dead if you don't kill on 3rd

[rigid onyx]

Most of your cube income from this game is unique in that it's from renewable sources, but the newbie missions ig give a decent amount. The renewable cubes are enough to sustain sweeping every banner though (maybe not if you're unlucky and have to roll on reruns, though)

[marsh bison]

But anyways should I focus on backline or the frontline

[sharp pine]

Do your dailies and weeklies and cycle your commissions as much as possible and target cube reward commissions.

[topaz smelt]

Prob dead on 2nd if elds tanking

[marsh bison]

Ok

[marsh bison]

I mean by focus enhancing and mlb them more

Which should I focus

[topaz smelt]

This fights the highest VG pressure we've ever had

[rigid onyx]

I mean you should get the frontline and backline mlb'd because non mlb ships are practically worthless, and other enhancements (leveling) happen synchronously. The resource-intensive upgrading (literally just +13ing equipment and UR bulin investment) usually prioritizes backline because they contribute more damage, but there are exceptions

[simple ice]

so i havent played the game for a while, in terms of farming event shop, do i just spam D3 hard ? should i even do normal (3times bonus)

[sweet delta]

Do normal with a cheap fleet like 4 oil.
Do SP and then D3 for speed

Actually you probably have a lot of oil so you can skip normal

But triple of 80 points for one run is quite good

[orchid scarab]

How do I unlock this?

[simple ice]

yeah i have so much oil, im trying to spend it but i almost cant

[fair lance]

Nelson? retrofit

[orchid scarab]

Oh retro

[latent root]

Quick question caz i forgot, can affinity go up on OpSi ?

👍

[viscid swift]

if you're pulling stuff from storage don't

[simple ice]

nah i didnt get the storage thing yet, but like game is throwing oil towards me, with the comeback thing and stuff, just trying to farm the event as much as i can while not going below 0 mood

[gaunt cedar]

what should i do with war archives? i got kms ships from divergent chessboard and now i got 60 data keys

[viscid swift]

stick your ships in the dorm and onsen if you haven't already

that'll help massively with morale recovery

[viscid swift]

you can just sit on them if nothing tickles your fancy

[gaunt cedar]

i understand chapayev is good is it worth to spend the oil for her? i dont have a lot of ships

[viscid swift]

she's okay, wouldn't go out of my way to get her other than for collection and tech though

[marsh bison]

I only have sr equipments so yeah I will try

[zenith pebble]

ive got plymouth but shes not mlb, can i still use her in w14?

same with bayard

[rigid onyx]

no

[sharp socket]

ply might be ok if she's like dev25 but if you have no other options i suppose but bayard no

[zenith pebble]

and for the proto shop, does the pr 7 things refresh every month after i buy all of it?

[stark quiver]

ply loses her worthyness as d25

[stark quiver]

yes

[sharp socket]

she only has 2 mgm but like comparable to a mid tier SR vanguard i would assume

[zenith pebble]

should i continue pulling for lion? i havent got her yet and at this point ive had 160 pulls?

[sharp socket]

yes if you have cubes

[zenith pebble]

ive got 12

[rapid grail]

[zenith pebble]

[rapid grail]

well you have two and 1/6 days left

how far are u into pity @zenith pebble

[sharp socket]

i don't know what the gph recommendation is for this but id still keep going because gamba is in my soul

[zenith pebble]

170/200

[rapid grail]

anyways, push it until u cant

91% chance you'll get the ship before you get forced to get pity

[zenith pebble]

i can buy cubes for 333 gems

[rapid grail]

uh, no, not yet

[fair lance]

I wouldn't until last day if that

[rigid onyx]

Have you done weeklies

[rapid grail]

find other sources of cubes first

[zenith pebble]

just finished

[rigid onyx]

have you done all the newbie missions

[zenith pebble]

ive got 4 chances of cubes on those mission things

[zenith pebble]

yep, all of them

[rigid onyx]

Use mail oil and start doing 10h comms ig

or just use your oil and hope for the cube 10h

[brave cairn]

is slaimuda's github AL guide doesn't contain the current ship patch?

[rigid onyx]

do opsi missions too ig

[zenith pebble]

wait so theyll stay the same unless you use oil?

[rigid onyx]

yeah

[zenith pebble]

BRUH

[rigid onyx]

actually idk but using oil refreshes it more often

i havent done them in years

[fair lance]

The 10h one doesn't refresh the others does daily

[zenith pebble]

its fine, ive got 4 comms going that says it may give cubes

whats the range of what they can give?

[rigid onyx]

depends on timer

[zenith pebble]

6 hours

an hour per cube?

[rigid onyx]

It doesnt give cubes 100% of the time

[zenith pebble]

yeah, 50/50

[eager mulch]

what 76mm aa guns are there

[solar lily]

theres also the dual 76mm guns (gold and rainbow variants)

[limpid arch]

can I see some of yalls budget oil formations

this is mine not sure what ships are good for that type of stuff

[limpid arch]

oh what type of equiment do they have and how fast do they clear

[viscid swift]

That for EZ mode in events
This for hard mode and SP

[raven canyon]

is shimanto a good mobber?

[sharp socket]

(you need crossfleet for 4 oil fleet to work)

[limpid arch]

oh i see thank you im gonna try that

[viscid swift]

Musashi, Alsace, Soyuz, Kronshtadt, Shimakaze, Unzen for the cross fleet

[viscid swift]

For campaign yes

[raven canyon]

ic

[stark quiver]

Hi does lvl 70 kronk with 10/10/10 skill work

[frail haven]

uh... i collected the black rock shooter weapon and i dont seem to have it in my inventory.. go see and i have 330/300 items in my depot.. did i just screw myself?

nvm

i might be an idiot

[wind hazel]

it's an augment...

[raven canyon]

shimanto should be better than noshiro in terms of mobbing right?

[wind hazel]

way better

[stark quiver]

Noshiro is only for torp memez

[raven canyon]

oh yeah also does anyone know what the new skin projection feature for research ships are? do they get a new skin when you fully research that

[stark quiver]

No, i think it’s to display multiple skins of a ship
Check the pinned messages

[raven canyon]

oh

so its just there for you to be able to admire your favorite ship girl more