gameplay-help

[fair lance]

Everything points to mob but considering you probably don't have much URs boss.

[atomic abyss]

As a UR BB, she's extremely good at both
If you only have 1 UR BB though
Prioritise her for boss

[mellow cape]

Tyty

[next raft]

Alright sweet I appreciate it. I'm lucky enough to have Musashi, San Diego retro and Friedrich atleast

[fair lance]

Then boss 100%

[atomic abyss]

Musashi for mob
Lion for boss
Assuming both are max stars

[lyric flume]

Are we gonna get a rerun of Frits rumey or z52 anytime soon

[viscid swift]

lol no

[cobalt gate]

umm no

[lyric flume]

Rip

[atomic abyss]

Jan 2027 at earliest

[viscid swift]

they just ran last december

[twilit sage]

early 2027

expecting 2 years and 1-2 months for rerun

[lyric flume]

Wb Guam

[next raft]

Lion im still working on but the rest are max stars, I appreciate the tips thank you 🙏

[viscid swift]

still more than half a year off

[twilit sage]

early 2026

[lyric flume]

I’m cooked

I’ll just have to take my lion and be happy I guess

[twilit sage]

Lion is good tho, i would say missing CN anni units normally hurts the most

[lyric flume]

Was she CN anniversary?

[white turret]

guys is it worth it to get taihou from the special invitation letter?

[twilit sage]

yeah, same with Alsase and Zwei

[viscid swift]

Check the pins

[lyric flume]

Yes (I’m bias)

[wet badge]

Yo whens jp anniv

[undone plover]

check the pin for unbiased review

[twilit sage]

Taihou is wife, remember the reason you play this game

[lyric flume]

PREACH

[undone plover]

september

[viscid swift]

September

[white turret]

ffs taihou is the only one that theyre not even giving a tldr for 😭 is she that mid?

[wet badge]

Do they celebrate en anniv

[lyric flume]

I missed Alsase 💀

[slow fox]

TECH BOX MASS OPENING IS HUGE QOL

[lyric flume]

Yeah that’s usually in August if i remember correctly

[undone plover]

is taihou even an option?
sam doesnt list her

[twilit sage]

don't worry, i missed everything since NJ and I returned during Fritz

[limpid yoke]

Not mid when she’s waifu

[white turret]

yeah she is and shes the only one not listed in the tldr

[lyric flume]

I’m jelly Frits seems up my alley

[wet badge]

Her skins are insanely gyat

[undone plover]

she is not bad
but we have a lot of good perma CV available
like enterprise and independence

[twilit sage]

for AZ i dropped WUWA and HSR ,

[wet badge]

[limpid yoke]

Is there a gear farming guide? Or just a farming guide in general for once I empty the event shop?

[lyric flume]

How far are we from Napoli rerun

[wet badge]

Enty never gets powercrept

[silk sphinx]

for barrage numbers, it's count x coeff x damage?

[wet badge]

You mean raf?

[lyric flume]

She’s the poster girl she can’t

[twilit sage]

she is from tech shipyard no?

[wet badge]

Enty 2 and enty meta event

[lyric flume]

Idk I haven’t been here in forever dawg let me go check

[lyric flume]

Fr give her god mode main character status

[wet badge]

Btw hows rafaelo

[weary gust]

Do you mean salvos? Cause barrages are skills based on skill level/FP.

[twilit sage]

strong in main story because of smart healing and shielding, very good for exp training

[undone plover]

u dont rly want to empty the event shop

unless u mean getting what u want by that
should go back to ch12 if u farm to your goal

[limpid yoke]

Well when I say empty, I mean of stuff I want

[wet badge]

I thought she was just better nj and not that op

[silk sphinx]

this stuff,

[undone plover]

she is not the best UR BB for bossing but she is excellent in mobbing
2nd to musashi only I think

[limpid yoke]

Does Ch 12 drop gear I can use?

[lyric flume]

Is hidenburg good

[silk sphinx]

i forget how to make sense of the four numbers, guess it mean's it's repeated

[wet badge]

WAIT WHAT

[weary gust]

For gear base damage yes, it's just the number of shots x damage per shot x armor mod x hidden coefficient.

[undone plover]

no but u dont get gear from map drops anyway
u get good gear from research/opsi and the different shops like coredata and prototype shop

[wet badge]

Btw what abt her gun

[lyric flume]

I got so many ships to grind for send me your spirit energy

[strong tartan]

best bb gun vs medium

[atomic abyss]

Better than mk7, although slightly

[twilit sage]

if you looking for raw power she is standard UR damage, she is very high rating because she can 1 carry 5 to train exp

[silk sphinx]

do you remember what it means when it's four numbers?

[limpid yoke]

Rip ok. I’ve barely touched gear lab and opsci so I have no clue how it works

[wet badge]

HUH I THOUGHT SHE WAS SUPER SKIPPABLE

[silk sphinx]

damage is slightly less but it's somewhat substantially faster

[wet badge]

Im so glad i got her

[undone plover]

try and finish opsi story for this month

[weary gust]

Can you give the full screenshot? I can't see what that's even for.

[atomic abyss]

Why would any new UR be super skippable

[strong tartan]

are we talking abt the raffaello gun or lions gun

[wet badge]

Wasnt kron mid

[atomic abyss]

Kron was still a very good tank on release

[weary gust]

Okay those ARE her barrages.

[wet badge]

O

[silk sphinx]

the first i get just fine, the second is confusing me slightly

2x1x10x20

[wet badge]

What about trafalgar

[atomic abyss]

Cracked in a different way

[twilit sage]

also normally in terms of pulls, do you guys still pull after getting UR to get hard pity so you can save a UR bulin or no

[pseudo hearth]

Kron is also still a CB, so that already makes her notable.

[silk sphinx]

looks good, cracked with an incredible crossfleet too for hms

[atomic abyss]

Not unless I'm very close to 200

[silk sphinx]

definitely will have to revise my opsi fleets

[wet badge]

What does her skills do

[twilit sage]

im at 80, i should stop at this rate to save for Zwei right

[atomic abyss]

Check #event-faq

[silk sphinx]

it's available in pinned documents, datamine > lv 125

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely stop

[undone plover]

trafalger has has evasion rate debuff which is like the best skill in the game for offense
but it is locked to BBs so she will probably be a great BB support like plymouth
idk how her dps/tankiness was tho tbh

[atomic abyss]

She isn't locked to BBs

[limpid yoke]

If I just started OpSci, am I on that story, or is there an initial one?

[atomic abyss]

She's locked to a BB flag

[twilit sage]

ok good that i have other 2 ssr already, thanks for the advice

[silk sphinx]

also big crossfleet stat boost to fp

[undone plover]

if u have missions that tell u to do specific stuff u are in story
story is 5 chapters

[undone plover]

wasnt her eva debuff needing a flag BB?

[atomic abyss]

Correct
So who said the other 2 needed to be BBs?

Consider what's the best CV comp now?

[undone plover]

fair

[ionic aurora]

does anyone have review of this new ur ships performance? worth building? how is she compare to other ur bbs?

[weary gust]

I haven't used Lion yet and haven't seen her barrages but I'm guessing that's something like "Two rounds of 1 salvo of 10 bullets that do 20 base damage"

[undone plover]

yeah my bad I phrased it badly

[atomic abyss]

Top few UR BBs at least

Consider there's 2 CV comps that use BBs

[undone plover]

it needs 1 BB but it doesnt only affect BB like plymouth

[ionic aurora]

thx

[silk sphinx]

apparently lion has great base damage, among top, her barrage numbers look good, and her skills (especially her 10% damage boost for everyone) is immensely impressive for bossing

[atomic abyss]

She appears impressive for everything really

Even PvP

[silk sphinx]

numbers favor light, should be top new light fleet, prob cracks into the other teams

[ionic aurora]

oh wow thats great

[twilit sage]

damn cleopatra lowkey wife

[ionic aurora]

and Cleo? waifu only or useful also?

[silk sphinx]

didn't get my lion yet though... and ig this means i might have to oath vanguard

[atomic abyss]

Cleo has been neglected tbh

None of us have actually done any testing

[wet badge]

[strong tartan]

you could've just asked her

[harsh kettle]

Cleo feels useful from me using her rn TBH

[twilit sage]

tbh cleo only getting a still skins is kind of sad

[harsh kettle]

But she's SSS tier waifu

[worldly pewter]

he asked for raff gun

[heady field]

Anyonr game crashing when trying to preview a skin

[atomic abyss]

Crash no
Freeze, see #known-bugs

[weary gust]

Non x2 MG mounts and defensive skills for mainfleet = collection tier.

[twilit sage]

im so mad that i dont get shimato because my sakura tech points is so low

[atomic abyss]

Just wait for JP Anni and your problem will be solved

[twilit sage]

how oftern does skin rerun?

[worldly pewter]

who is harder to get simanto or haku ?

[weary gust]

Haku can be coined now so.

[worldly pewter]

tech req

[fair lance]

When the event reruns and then gets added to perma sometime later.

[strong tartan]

once the event the skin released with reruns and during black friday

[undone plover]

haku needs 50 more

[pale mason]

are any of the new event banner ships worth pulling for besides the UR? i managed to get the UR first 10 pull and not sure if it's worth continuing to pull

[weary gust]

Cleopatra looks like bottom of Tier 1 if not Tier 2 imo.

[twilit sage]

so would it be possible that shimato skins rerun this black friday or next black friday?

[atomic abyss]

Doesn't appear to be the case
Save if you already got Lion

[strong tartan]

probably? not sure when the cut off is

[pale mason]

alright thanks

[strong tartan]

isn't it in august

[undone plover]

it will rerun this black friday I think
cutoff was usually june and CN anni was included in black friday afaik

[worldly pewter]

mlb all the ijn ships and farm some from wa
get from the medal/guild/merit shop the ships that give the most

[atomic abyss]

Cut off is around CN anni

[ionic aurora]

ok thx on Cleo:(

[atomic abyss]

Before or after is 🔮

[twilit sage]

damn i shouldn't have impulse bought that mogador skins, could of went into black friday purchase

[pale mason]

are there any particular ships worth targetting with the wishing well, if I'm missing them? or not worth the pulls

[atomic abyss]

For that, see the pins
If you don't have much cubes I would just save for Bismarck 2 tho

Or the future collabs

[pale mason]

I have 600+ cubes currently, not sure if you consider that a lot or little

[twilit sage]

heard blackrock shooter is free, but we getting ryza rerun as well

[atomic abyss]

That's a good amount

Maybe throw in 1 roll on WW a day

[twilit sage]

im at zero now, im cooked

[polar lion]

Monarch skin release next week?

[weary gust]

What do you mean it's free

[pale mason]

oh mb i scrolled a little bit in the pins but apparently not far enough down to see the wishing well part mb

[atomic abyss]

BRS collab ships are both free

[twilit sage]

some CN source saying BR shooter is claimable through playthrough event, take with a grin of salt tho

[weary gust]

That didn't answer my question but I can surmise from Mana's answer that it's like shop/point accumulation.

[atomic abyss]

That wasn't specified in the stream

[twilit sage]

but honestly like BR shooter is so ancient if they do pulls event i doubt it would have work well

[sweet delta]

In the context of this game I think free event ship means not gacha

[weary gust]

Okay so they're just speculating and making misinformation.

[strong tartan]

What are you talking about

[atomic abyss]

The only confirmed info is that it's free
Whether that means from shop or mini game or just literally given to us without doing anything we don't know

[weary gust]

I asked "what do you mean it's free" and people are saying "it's free" so idk, no one is answering me

[pseudo hearth]

I’m curious, and wondered if anyone here knew. I’m looking at info on HMS Lion and what guns she was supposed to have (as well as what she has in WoWs), and was wondering, would her “Historical” secondaries be the Twin 134 High Angle Guns?

[twilit sage]

yeah its not gonna consume any pull resource thats for sure

[fair lance]

Collab ships don't count for collection% right?

[strong tartan]

Don't bother with historical loadouts but to answer your question sure

[undone plover]

probably ask in #history
or wait till cheeky is back

[twilit sage]

no, also don't give any tech bonus,

[south sequoia]

Curious, between raff and musashi
who still comes out on top as the sole bb for mobbing in w15?

[weary gust]

Musashi because she pulls damage to herself and can then be target healed.

[atomic abyss]

Raff for 15-1
Sushi for the rest supposedly

[south sequoia]

Or does musashi damage output still edge her out vs raffs defensive utility

ahh

how come raff for that specific level

[sweet delta]

For farming with level 100 vanguard ships

[south sequoia]

oh

[pseudo hearth]

Alright

[twilit sage]

yeah Raff is the desinated farming carry, mushashi still have higher output in damage

[viscid swift]

I'll have to double check but my intial though would be the twin 5.25 inch DP guns

[fair lance]

What's your initial thoughts on Trafalgar idk if you 125 her yet.

[viscid swift]

wows also has them

[viscid swift]

I haven't and even if I did her skills wouldn't be anywhere close to max

[fair lance]

I know.

[pseudo hearth]

The only thing is, at least the ones we have in game aren’t 133 or 134 mm. They don’t get any longer than 120.

That’s why I thought they were these

[silk sphinx]

I'm guessing new bb fleets will be something like bisz lion vanguard + traf though

never mind maybe not traf

[viscid swift]

thats it

[pseudo hearth]

Ah OK. Was curious because the name is so different in game.

[patent pivot]

antilight is BiZ alsace lion, i presume its same for med

[silk sphinx]

fair enough

[patent pivot]

data here if you care to check for yourself

[silk sphinx]

actually i think i confused lion's with traf's kit

nothing in her kit suggests hms

[oblique canyon]

What's the word on the new UR Gun? Upgrade Mk7?

[ebon topaz]

When do i need to start beating the stage 2 or more times to get a clear in the event

[viscid swift]

slight but yes an upgrade

[viscid swift]

never, all the stages only require one clear

[ebon topaz]

So its only in main story ?

[viscid swift]

yeah, and older events

[ebon topaz]

Aight thx

[viscid swift]

and only chapter 10 and up now

[ebon topaz]

O

[ebon topaz]

Older events u mean the one in war archive right

[wild dragon]

what do I need to do to get my android emulator to handle those new skins again? I just updated the emulator itself...

[weary gust]

x64 system

[viscid swift]

no, I mean events that were released before this change was made so for a while you will have to do multiple runs for a full clear on reruns

[ebon topaz]

Ok thx

[wild dragon]

bluestacks pie x64 on high settings and it's still crashing displaying those skins...

[hardy citrus]

how good is trafalgari dont see her in the end game rankings yet

[ebon topaz]

Should i just skip doing 3 star in the event 😭

[fair lance]

If you don't want the rewards sure

[undone plover]

u can skip it for now and come back to do them later

[weary gust]

Pretty sure someone said above that bluestacks x64 is a lie and it's really x32 even though it claims otherwise.

[wild dragon]

yeah, I think I'll try out it's 'Android 13 beta' setting on a new instance and see what happens

[eager marsh]

C/D stages don't give multiplier bonus?

[viscid swift]

only on reruns

[coral bramble]

Am I still able to get jerseys midsummer leisure ever? Any reruns or any other forms of attainment?

[umbral bane]

how good is the new rainbow gun ?

[forest palm]

from what I've heard it's slightly better than the Triple 406 Mk7

[umbral bane]

dammn

[viscid swift]

worst case sceario she'll rerun in November during the Black Friday event

[white turret]

maybe this is a very stupid question but do i always have to go back in stages to 3 star them? i never find enough fleets in order to 3 star stages on my 1st try

[atomic abyss]

No

[ivory pawn]

It depends.

[plucky ice]

is it better to farm event hard mode stages

[ivory pawn]

Current event, for example, you can do it in one go.

[sweet delta]

New event maps generally are three starrable in one sortie

[supple canopy]

Is doing event hard mode better than easy mode? In terms of rewards

[ivory pawn]

But campaign, you typically cannot.

[atomic abyss]

@supple canopy @plucky ice yes to both of you

[sweet delta]

Depends on the oil cost of your fleet

[supple canopy]

Kk ty

[plucky ice]

Tysm

[twilit sage]

btw whats the quickest way to farm affection? 1-1 or 9-1

[sweet merlin]

when did they change this?

[atomic abyss]

Today

[atomic abyss]

1-1
But that assumes you disregard everything else

[twilit sage]

yeah i need lion to be at 100, im at 50 rn

im cooked

[undone plover]

put her secretary too dont forget

[twilit sage]

i did'

[harsh gust]

is it even that faster considering you'll be gated by morale anyway?

[atomic abyss]

Faster cos you can avoid fighting bosses and needing to go in and out of the stage with the infinite ambushes

Otherwise yes, you're still gated by morale

[twilit sage]

thats my question, but given that we also got onsen and second floor dorm we can kind of cook with this i hope

[elfin hollow]

am i a dumbass how do i see the hard modes of event stages

[atomic abyss]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[elfin hollow]

i guess this is a new feature

[atomic abyss]

It's been here for over 6 months

[twilit sage]

and also we use purple bulin for 1-1 right?

[elfin hollow]

i havent played for like 2 years

[undone plover]

does 1-1 allow for backline mvp?

[atomic abyss]

That you have to ask goose
I believe the answer is no

[eternal moth]

Why would you do that?

[atomic abyss]

I think it would be one of the chapter 2 maps for backline?
I'm not sure

[harsh gust]

to make sure backline gets mvp

[viscid swift]

thats not difficult as is though...

[twilit sage]

this is MVP tho no? From 1-1

[low condor]

Hi, wondering if there's an up to date new player guide that i can read

[undone plover]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[low condor]

[viscid swift]

sorry meant to say not

[twilit sage]

bruh im getting 1 Affinity per run

[undone plover]

also I think for 1-1 u do ambush farming
not fighting the mobs/boss

[sweet delta]

[twilit sage]

wait how i do that

[twilit sage]

well, we gotta do what we have to do

[eternal moth]

But why?

[weary gust]

Because they're hella impatient and want to oath Lion NAOW

[twilit sage]

5/20 means I love you in chinese, and it just perfect allignment to have it in this day and also the day it was added so its like birthday as well

[silk sphinx]

Wu er shi?

[eternal moth]

You know it's already 5/21 in China right?

[silk sphinx]

Not sure I get it tbh

[harsh gust]

godspeed

[twilit sage]

wu er ling = similar to wo ai ni

[silk sphinx]

Is it really? Sounds pretty different

[harsh gust]

it's still 5/20 server time in global

[twilit sage]

i know, but it is still 5/20 in US tho

[undone plover]

keep in mind this is useful for 1 ship
so if u are affinity farming on 1 fleet doing full fleet in event/ch12 is better

[silk sphinx]

All that matters is getting the date on the oath certificate

[eager marsh]

how much coins for d3 clearing reward?

[eternal moth]

1k

[silk sphinx]

So in that sense sure it’s a goal that if you achieve you’ll have proof of as long as the game exists

[undone plover]

i think event was ~5.5 coin/oil so ~1500 coin per clear on average

[twilit sage]

i just need lion rn, already oath 5

[viscid swift]

sure...

[twilit sage]

my only regrests is not oathing NJ on my bday because i was a impatient pos

[silk sphinx]

I mean I think wu er yi sounds even closer

[viscid swift]

ehhh, not really

[silk sphinx]

So uh not sure I get it but aight

I think cheeky is Chinese American? Me be cn-cad

[twilit sage]

yeah

also how do i check my morale with the ship im farming, or is this not something i need to worried given we got basically 120 morale/per hours

[sweet delta]

According to Google translate, it means "I'm twenty"

[undone plover]

I dont think we get 120 morale per hour

[viral flicker]

How bad is a 3 star king of the jungle aka lion

[eternal moth]

You get 60 morale/hr, not 120, and that assumes ships are oathed and on second floor. AFAIK hotspring gives an extra 10

[twilit sage]

oh it only give 10? i thought it stack thats why

[silk sphinx]

It Does stack

[wary skiff]

are meta ships ever worth grinding for and using, i just got 2 glorius back 2 back

[silk sphinx]

But it’s only a plus 10/hour bonus

[twilit sage]

ok i see

[wind hazel]

eventually, for their tech

[viral flicker]

For chap 6

[wary skiff]

i thought they dont give tech points

[wind hazel]

if you have to ask, chances are not worth for you

[eternal moth]

Would you use any other ship without limit breaking it?

[undone plover]

gold meta ships are usually good
but they are an opportunity cost for beginner cuz they give no tech also they have annoying enhance mats

[wary skiff]

but i swore i saw +16 earlier

[wind hazel]

they didn't in the past, but now they do.

[eternal moth]

They do since they were added as a real faction

[viral flicker]

I don't wanna spend 100 plus books on a ship that I am sure not gonna use later on

[wary skiff]

so did she give me rn tech points or some meta fleet tech points stuff

[eternal moth]

META tech points

[sweet delta]

A level 125, three star rainbow ship (or any rarity ship for that matter) would be overkill for chapter 6.

[wind hazel]

both lol. on acquisition you get 2 CV/L hp, and hidden meta tech

actually im not even sure if meta tech is a thing

[wary skiff]

will the hidden meta tech eventually do something like be a pr or dr in the shipyard?

[wind hazel]

we dont know

[eternal moth]

They give tech points for the META faction, AFAIK

This is for Hornet META, as an example

[viral flicker]

Ok then ty

Who should I try to mlb first

[twilit sage]

okey every 10 rounds in 1-1 dropp my morale by 14

[undone plover]

u should focus on 1 fleet for now
what is your main fleet?

[harsh kettle]

I'm biased, I would've said Cleo lmao

[viral flicker]

Make me one

[low condor]

Which one to summon (build)on for new player, wishing well or new event rateup banner or both?

[harsh kettle]

Isn't the point of the game is to learn how to fleetbuild at times

[atomic abyss]

Event builds till you get lion

[eternal moth]

ignore the wishing well

[viral flicker]

I still don't know why classes matter so much

[wild dragon]

yeah ... you'll get everything eventually pulling on banners

[atomic abyss]

Different roles, different things
Different types of damage

[harsh kettle]

Classes represent their role on your fleet

[wild dragon]

the wishing well is fine for daily pulls once you have most of the SSRs

[harsh kettle]

Obviously some ships break those universal rules

The op ones

[viral flicker]

Be back in a few days to ask the same question

[undone plover]

I would use amagi unicorn kii lala mogador helena
farm event and try and reach D1 asap
when u get to D1 come back we might have to use 2 fleets then

[viral flicker]

Already at it

[undone plover]

oh I see nice
uhh... lets take this to a thread I think it will be better

[rustic osprey]

Should I get Janus and suzutsuki?

[undone plover]

kita fleet help :MurmLove:

[loud rover]

dont do wishing well. its a cube scam

[rustic osprey]

Iam done with the event banner

[atomic abyss]

Not the best choices from meta perspective
But if you really want them sure
I hope you already got Lion tho

[wind hazel]

aurora+another

[rustic osprey]

I got lion

[eternal moth]

How many cubes do you have?

[loud rover]

then save. its best to save for the next UR/event banner then burn cubes

[rustic osprey]

670

[eternal moth]

I'd save, since we have a collab coming pretty soon

[wind hazel]

no it is still advised to use wishing well for daily 1 Light build

[rustic osprey]

Gotcha

[wind hazel]

just pick Light build, pick aurora and another one you want, do 1 Light on wishing well, that's it

[wind hazel]

@ Janus

[rustic osprey]

Janus becuz I heard she's good with Jervis

[forest palm]

do we still need Aurora if Trafalgar exists

[atomic abyss]

You don't really use either tbh

[thorn tartan]

why is B3 on the farming priority?

[rustic osprey]

So we have better options

[viscid swift]

if nothing else the debuff when it works is still stronger

[rustic osprey]

How is suzutsuki

[wind hazel]

mostly because ship drop

[rustic osprey]

As an option

[harsh kettle]

Do we know who drops on B3 yet?

[viscid swift]

DD FP tech

[rustic osprey]

Glorious meta

It's always the ssr in the shop that drops

[versed stratus]

Who next with 5 UR bulins? And to get ahead of it, the +3 non-MLB URs were dupes during the event.

[rustic osprey]

[viscid swift]

are those all of your URs?

[forest palm]

there's always Aquila

[weary gust]

Finish Implac then Lion.

[atomic abyss]

If those are all, implacable
Otherwise it depends

[undone plover]

lion + implacable imo
u can get a bulin from milestone

[versed stratus]

No.

[rustic osprey]

I honestly wanna choose this

Chi an mommy

Is a bad idea?

[wind hazel]

gameplay wise yeah

[rustic osprey]

Then aurora and Janus we go

[wind hazel]

pp wise up to you, my liege 🧎🏼‍♂️

[weary gust]

Anyways, finish Implacable then do Lion.

[versed stratus]

ty

[rustic osprey]

Well I can hope to get chi an from normal banner

Let's go Janus

[silk sphinx]

normal banner chi an?

[sweet delta]

I mean

Between 1 DD HP + 1DD EVA and 1 CL HP + 1 CL HIT, I know which I would choose

[rustic osprey]

Isn't she permanent in light banner

[wind hazel]

she is

[marsh sparrow]

how do I increase dorm comfort value,I forgot how the value works

[rustic osprey]

Yup

[viscid swift]

friendly reminder Ryza collab rerun in july probably

so pull conservatively

[rustic osprey]

gotcha

[weary gust]

Every ship in wishing well is permanent in their pool.

[wind hazel]

buy furniture that give + comfort, there's like some threshold to meet before it will increase, which i don't know how and what

the furniture give more so there's that

[loud rover]

With the existence of trafalgar and lion who should I mlb next? I have enough specialized core to buy 2 bulins, nearly 3

[sweet delta]

Lion

[viscid swift]

Lion

[loud rover]

even though i have sashi, UvH, FDG, alsace, nj and vanguard as other options? Lion that much better?

[viscid swift]

yes

[loud rover]

wow alrighty then

[gray sphinx]

Lion feels like a mobber but I could be wrong

[atomic abyss]

Far from just it

[viscid swift]

I mean she's darn near the highest damage BB against light and medium armor

[silk sphinx]

out of traf, laffii and z52, which would would you invest in in order? I feel like laffii would still come in first then traf?

[atomic abyss]

No she wouldn't

Z52 first for sure lol

[undone plover]

depends on your goal
laffey is like pvp and ch15
otherwise u barely use her

[loud rover]

maybe content dependant? laff2 is good for ch14 and 15 right?

[viscid swift]

so are Z52 and Trafalgar

[atomic abyss]

Z52 is extremely good for practically all content save PvP

Laff2 doesn't shine outside W14/15 and PvP tbh

[gray sphinx]

I mean the fact that she has a preload and evasion with damage reduction in her skills made me feel like she’d do exceptionally well in mobbing

[loud rover]

so how does the new UR gun compare to the mk7?

[atomic abyss]

Better

[sweet delta]

Fr when was the last time I used laffii not for testing

[viscid swift]

she doesn't have a preload

[gray sphinx]

Doesn’t she proc something immediately at the start of battle?

[atomic abyss]

A barrage skill

Not a preload

[viscid swift]

she procs her barrage at the start of the battle but it ain't a preload

[twilit sage]

What exactly does dorm comfort do

[sharp socket]

increase xp gain

[gray sphinx]

Well it’s a “preload” quote on quote I guess

[undone plover]

increases the passive xp
which is not rly that impressive anyway

[silk sphinx]

give a diminishing bonus to dorm xp gain

it increases at a glacial pace at higher amounts

[twilit sage]

I see, wish it give more morale recovery, would of been op

[silk sphinx]

you might need dozens of points for like 1-2% more i think

[little tree]

You wont see the differance between 3kand 4k

[loud rover]

you got nowhere else to spend decor tokens so might as well

[twilit sage]

I’m at 300 I think

[weary gust]

It's not, preload and barrage are two very different and very specific established gameplay mechanics.

[sharp socket]

you sorta cap out at 80% and very slowly increase to like 82% over 3 years

[silk sphinx]

maybe 83

[twilit sage]

Wishing for 3rd or 4th floor by 10th anni

[gray sphinx]

Okay so tell me what the difference is besides the fact that you can manually proc the preload whenever versus a barrage

[undone plover]

a salvo usually does a lot more dmg than a barrage

[viscid swift]

A barrage doesn't do nearly as much damage

[sweet delta]

Preload refers to the main gun salvo

[weary gust]

A barrage is a skill and does damage based on the skill. A preload uses the main gun gear as the base damage modifier, and is a number of shots from 2-3 usually whereas barrages can be in unique patterns and inflict unique ailments.

[atomic abyss]

And in lion's case, her salvos are extremely strong...

[undone plover]

and usually preload is accompanied by a barrage anyway since most meta BB have on-fire barrages

[gray sphinx]

Alright fair enough but whenever I hear “preload” I think something that’s preemptive didn’t think there’d be any intrinsic knowledge behind it

[viscid swift]

Well now you know

[silk sphinx]

that's a correct deduction, just that there are two preemptive things here so

[weary gust]

Torpedoes, Planes, and BB guns are the only things that can have "preloads". The things which have the button on screen in battle.

[silk sphinx]

there's a distinction between the two that needs to be made

[twilit sage]

So Unicorn and Aquila count as Preload as well right? I wanna make sure my terminology is correct

[viscid swift]

Yes

[silk sphinx]

so for instance, the time between BB salvoes or cvs launching air strikes is referred to as the loading time

so when we say preload, it means you have one loaded up at the start of battle

barrages are kind of separate from that, a tacked on damage/skill stuff

[gray sphinx]

Guess now I know but either way I just thought she’d still be a mobber considering her skill capabilities to add survivability and preemptive barrages at the enemies so the battles don’t last as long. Guess I was wrong tho

[sweet delta]

Does 5 oil beat B3 lethal

[silk sphinx]

the mobs are like around level 53

[sweet delta]

non-3 star

[weary gust]

It's not that she'd be bad at mobbing, it's that she does so much damage she's overkill for mobs.

[silk sphinx]

honestly should yeah

[sharp socket]

the strat for event clearing is A1 A2 A3 B1 B2 D3 correct

[silk sphinx]

i think

[silk sphinx]

also clear b3 just for the daily bonus

[gray sphinx]

What if I threw her into like W14 or W15. She’d still overkill?

[atomic abyss]

Possible
Depends on gear

[viscid swift]

I'd prefer Musashi still

[silk sphinx]

pure damage is not always what you want

[sweet delta]

There are a few better BBs for campaign

[viscid swift]

4 oil beats B3 lethal

[atomic abyss]

I only had issue cos I tried to 5 oil 3*

Would have died to planes if I didn't have subs lol

[gray sphinx]

Any specific reason?

[weary gust]

Good mobbers usually have:

1. Regular, frequent damage output that hits in a wide area.
2. Survival skills that heal/reduce damage/redirect damage
3. Address the specific needs of the maps they're doing.

[inner idol]

Is lion a bossing or mobbing ship? Same with traf

[viscid swift]

she can tank damage for the backline

[atomic abyss]

Musashi absorbs hits on behalf of the backline basically

[loud rover]

she has the highest hp right?

[gray sphinx]

Hmmm interesting

[atomic abyss]

Lion can do both extremely well

[brisk dragon]

wait is the event out ?

[viscid swift]

yes

[inner idol]

Nice

[gray sphinx]

I might lowkey just throw lion with vanguard in a bossing fleet then

[weary gust]

Vanguard is kinda outdated now. She doesn't pull her own weight compared to the new BBs.

[brisk dragon]

thought it's 2 days from now. i know they sometimes do it 1 day earlier but 2 days. they don't often do that. do they?

[sweet delta]

Damn UR barely out damaging a rare IJN dd

[gray sphinx]

I mean what other options do you have when you’re throwing her into a triple BB fleet

[wind hazel]

already mlb

[weary gust]

Alsace, BisZ, Soyuz, Lion, Musashi

Some combination of those depending on armor type.

[gray sphinx]

I thought Soyuz was just a nahki bot

[atomic abyss]

Lol no

[loud rover]

isnt vanguard still decent for her buffs?

[atomic abyss]

That is correct

[loud rover]

i've got her in one of my opsi bb fleets

[atomic abyss]

She's still going to be a better pick than NJ/UvH/FdG of course

Probably Rafaello too

[weary gust]

There are some cases you'd use Vanguard still, but far less now than before. She is by no means a given for a BB bossing fleet.

[loud rover]

i wasnt playing during Raf event. how does she compare to the other UR BBs?

[gray sphinx]

What does zwei provide again?

[weary gust]

Raf gud for mobbing, not really game changing for anything.

[sharp socket]

vanny is crept?

[inner idol]

Is lion placement locked or can she go anywhere for her barrage?

[loud rover]

yes

[gray sphinx]

I mean I heard the black hole skill isn’t even that good but I could’ve been misinformed

[quick grotto]

For the event missions that say "With x afloat in your fleet, defeat the Boss fleet of B3/D3", do they need to be in the boss fleet? Or just present on the map?

[weary gust]

You have most definitely been misinformed.

[viscid swift]

In the boss fleet but does not need to live

[sharp socket]

from past experience its in the boss fleet

[weary gust]

Black hole is the main stop for BB fleets to increase hit accuracy, plus it increases AOE if there's multiple units.

[harsh gust]

they need to be in the boss fleet, but it's bugged apparently and they don't need to survive

[quick grotto]

Oh. That's silly.

Gonna take advantage of that before they patch it lmao.

[viscid swift]

They won't

[atomic abyss]

They haven't for over a year don't worry

[viscid swift]

Been like the past 3 events

[atomic abyss]

Is it actually confirmed to be bugged res?

[harsh gust]

[atomic abyss]

Or it's a "intended feature"

[harsh gust]

we can check with, but then it might actually get fixed

[quick grotto]

Is Bethesda making this shit?

[atomic abyss]

If it was Bethesda
It wouldn't be F2P friendly anymore

[quick grotto]

True.

[gray sphinx]

Guess it’s time for me to retire vanguard for a little and throw in a little bit of Alsace, zwei, and lion instead

[quick grotto]

And everyone would use one of three voice actors.

[sharp socket]

chinese company manjuu

[loud rover]

we'd have to buy cubes instead of being able to earn them by just playing the game

[weary gust]

If it was Bethesda my shipgirls would be flying off into the sky and I'd be able to equip guns to aux slots.

[atomic abyss]

So Gridman Collab

[quick grotto]

There'd be a dupe glitch somewhere to abuse.

[viscid swift]

#al-general gents

[loud rover]

is d1 or d3 more points/oil efficient? already have glorious meta

[stark quiver]

d3

[soft raft]

D3

[zenith pebble]

d3

[twilit sage]

does affinity gain bonus from green flash morale or it just exp? because then i can farm a bit harder with lion

[viscid swift]

it's just more XP

[twilit sage]

but i should still keep it in green morale to avoid affinity drop right

[viscid swift]

yes

[empty canopy]

Can we unlock Trafalgar Day 1?

[twilit sage]

man this is looking rough i aint gonna lie

[empty canopy]

Anyone?

[atomic abyss]

Difficult but yes

[atomic abyss]

^

[empty canopy]

Day 2 more easy?

[twilit sage]

uhm whats the threshhold for green morale?

[forest palm]

119(?)

[atomic abyss]

Below 20 it's orange iirc
Sparkly green is 120+

[twilit sage]

no like just regular green

[atomic abyss]

20-119

[sweet delta]

/wiki affinity

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity

[twilit sage]

okey so kept above 31

[normal cedar]

i only use starter dd's, is it worth mlbing trafalgar for me to have a good dd? I have 4 ur bulins + 3k core left after lion mlb

[viscid swift]

is she the only UR you have not MLB

[sweet delta]

If your other options are permanent URs then yeah

[normal cedar]

no, the only ur I have is lion and trafalgar
my perma pool pity is at around 120/400

[sweet delta]

A max Trafalgar might be worth more than three starter DDs in fleet contribution

[viscid swift]

sure

may or may not backfire depending on when zwei reruns

[sweet delta]

You'll get another from 30k. Not too bad for Bisz

[balmy skiff]

what's the best level for farming coins?

[normal cedar]

ye, also traf uses 3 bulins so ig i might have enough for zwei
thanks!!

[balmy skiff]

running low on that shit while i was building for Lion

[viscid swift]

w12 but farming the event should be sufficient

[slow fox]

Has anyone gotten past Kashino in the SHIPGIRL GAME

[balmy skiff]

what level is the best for coins in w12?

[viscid swift]

12-4

[atomic abyss]

-4

[forest palm]

just farm event D-3 it's more productive

[spring basin]

im thinking of buying the oath ring pack, how important/impactful are they ?

[atomic abyss]

Not impactful at all

[balmy skiff]

12-4 vs. D3.
which nets more coins per clear

[atomic abyss]

It's pretty much waifu only unless you're a whale

12-4
But why are you grinding campaign during event

[hybrid pelican]

wait what? do we have an offer of oath rings?

[atomic abyss]

980 for 2

[warm trail]

is the wish permanent? im new who do i wish for? the biggest?

[viscid swift]

No, no one pull on the event

[warm trail]

i dont hav cubes tho just asking

[atomic abyss]

Wishing well is not permanent
You should not roll it if you haven't gotten Lion

[warm trail]

i got lion and her skin

[viscid swift]

Great, save for the next event then

[warm trail]

max lion out? or what

[hybrid pelican]

where? I can´t seem to find that offer

[viscid swift]

When you get the UR bullins to do so yes

[spring basin]

when i went back in the shop to check it but it's gone for me now lol

[warm trail]

ryza!? nice i hav her but not her armaments

[viscid swift]

Yeah, it was announced in the last stream

[hybrid pelican]

yeah, I can´t find it lol

[hybrid pelican]

that it would be gone or that it would be available?

[atomic abyss]

Iirc the oath ring pack was available too early

[warm trail]

nicee

[spring basin]

yeah i figured.

[atomic abyss]

Cos well

Janus Balti and I forgot who haven't gotten the skins yet

[twilit sage]

chishire

[hybrid pelican]

I see
when was it supossed to be available?

[spring basin]

prob whenever their oath skins release

[atomic abyss]

Prolly next week
When they actually release the oath skins

[twilit sage]

it was said in the stream the oath pack comes when the oath skin release

[viscid swift]

That it would be rerunning....

[plain saffron]

Is it actually unlimited

[atomic abyss]

Maybe

[mossy void]

I know it's too early but I am curious about anyone's opinion on Lion, since no new questions have been asked yet

[viral cypress]

Hello all new to the game, is there an updated tier list somewhere with the new units

[mossy void]

I'll be honest, most likely no- unless people already made a YouTube video on it but I wouldn't know personally

[stark quiver]

no
but
lion and traf are good, and you should try to get them throughout these 3 weeks
i also found a video from some youtuber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnx7FldImqU&t=9s

[viral cypress]

Traffic is through the event right?

[stark quiver]

hm?

[viral cypress]

Traf* auto correct

[stark quiver]

correct, she is not a gacha ship, but instead is in the event shop

[zenith pebble]

how many coins does d3 drop

[viral cypress]

How do I farm for it? I just started and the event levels so far are the coins instead of the badges needed for her

[sharp token]

been stuck here for minutes and it also do that in skin shop, how to fix it?

[stark quiver]

restart game, if no work, repair assets

[sharp token]

i already did yet there's no changes

[stark quiver]

hmm, you should read https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop

[stark quiver]

repair assets too?

[mellow cape]

Mmm so they changed lions burn from infinite to only 3 times??

[stark quiver]

try #tech-support

[viscid swift]

CN reverted that change back didn't they

[zenith pebble]

so how many coins does d3 drop?

[viscid swift]

Like 900 to 1k something like that

[bleak nymph]

Where can i find who's getting oath skins?j

[zenith pebble]

isnt that kind of low?

[zenith pebble]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Wedding

[twilit sage]

I don’t think imma make it in time now

[zenith pebble]

grind harder

[twilit sage]

Her morale is low

[zenith pebble]

sleep with her

[twilit sage]

God damn it man why I gotta be a lazy asss and slept so much for today

[stark quiver]

just wait

[mellow cape]

Not sure, just watched suchi's video

@-@ it's confusing to see which is which

[sweet delta]

[mellow cape]

Oh NICE loll I didn't see that

[hybrid pelican]

so lion got buffed or nerfed?

[viscid swift]

they undid a nerf

[stark quiver]

[warm trail]

What to farm on the current event? Wat stage

[viscid swift]

D3

[warm trail]

Ok

[stark quiver]

sup gameplay help, whatre all the build times for the new botes

[viscid swift]

6:20:00 for Lion
55:00 for Cleo

[weary gust]

theyirrelevant

[viscid swift]

this is for the wiki Kasic

[stark quiver]

i update wiki

[weary gust]

Still irrelevant no one needs to know the timers

[mellow cape]

[viscid swift]

Glorious should be the same as her regular counterpart

[sweet delta]

What is Glorious's build time?

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

3:50:00

or was

[stark quiver]

it appears to be meta sd according to the

[sweet delta]

[mellow cape]

So I'm reading that lion is mainly mobbing?

[sweet delta]

And yes these times are all correct

[viscid swift]

lol no, she's easily top 3 BB for bosses

[mellow cape]

Ooh nice

[sweet delta]

I don't think the highest boss damage BB is mainly mobbing

[stark quiver]

thank

[stark quiver]

also how did you know

[mellow cape]

Well, today was pretty productive. Got the 10k for gun and sitting at 150 for tra, any idea how much you get daily for ur vouchers?

[ivory pawn]

Should be 15/day from minigame for 6 more days, and 10/day from SP + daily mission. Sam's written out all of the sources in the pin.

[mellow cape]

So if I farm 2k / trade them for vouchers. The 25 tomorrow I think I'll be able to get tra

[knotty dome]

in the villa story theres a scene with formidable in front of some paintings but it doesnt seem to be an in game skin. is it upcoming or something?

[ivory pawn]

We're getting a 2nd batch of swimsuit skins next week. Should be with them.

[knotty dome]

oh ok thank you

[stark quiver]

[silver lintel]

If i use HELP on d3 does the medal earned double

[kind needle]

Now I’m thinking who to mlb, Lion, trafalgar, vanguard, mog, or rafaello?

[mellow cape]

Out of all of those I'd say lion..

[ivory pawn]

Depends, what are all of your URs?

[viscid swift]

What are your other URs and how many bullins

[kind needle]

Here, can buy 4 bulins

[viscid swift]

Lion

[kind needle]

Aight, thanks

Is there any diff between Lion 406 and NJ 406?

[stark quiver]

lion 406 is a bit better

[crisp raven]

Sams pinned writeup says we get 115 vouchers from the random daily mission, but JP patchnotes say we get a max of 75. Which is the correct value? https://www.azurlane.jp/news/688

[sweet delta]

• Trafalgar 10% eva rate down is not a flare-like or lantern-like.
• It is guaranteed geometric hit but not rpg hit
• If it hits, the enemy gets the debuff for the whole 10s no matter how far away it moves

[waxen valley]

does the bath stack morale

[wind hazel]

it adds additional 10

[waxen valley]

ty :)

[viscid swift]

well the last time this happened supposedly(according to the JP patch notes) there was a cap on the amount of vouchers you could earn from dailies when in reality there wasn't

[ionic kraken]

which ships do y'all recomend setting in the wishing well?

[cobalt gate]

hmm.. how does 1 barrage from 15-3 enemy just 1 hit kill me?

[viscid swift]

check the pins but unless you have a glut of cubes don't bother

[sweet delta]

this is getting really stale

[zenith pebble]

how much tech points would i get after mlb and 120?

[fickle hollow]

Does anyone have the skin interactions for the Lion and Taihou L2d skins

[sharp pine]

In opsi, do energy matrices appear in secured zones?

[ionic kraken]

who's more useful new jersey or kronshdat?

[sweet delta]

for perma URs, Vanguard/Shinano > NJ/UvH > Kron > Shimakaze

[chilly birch]

Does anyone know if we're getting an oath ring pack in-store next week?

[viscid swift]

we should be

[stark quiver]

Right after I spend all my gems

[sweet delta]

this is like 30% or 40% off for Trafalgar

[wind hazel]

what's the preliminary 🧮 for traf dps?

above ply? below ply?

[sweet delta]

chien wu level

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1205684301560021062.webp?size=56

[light trail]

is that good

[jaunty vault]

how good is chien wu

[sharp pine]

[viscid swift]

she's like a 3 against light armor

2 against medium, and 1 against heavy

[stark quiver]

thats pretty comp

[wind hazel]

utility UR?

[sweet delta]

oh but trafalgar is equal on all armors. Probably 2 on all

[light trail]

on a scale of what

[wind hazel]

5

[light trail]

what's trafalgar's strong points

[stark quiver]

i thought you guys meant top # for the damage

[stark quiver]

she has eva debuff

[stark quiver]

also speed debuff, good aa i think

hmm traf doesnt seem bad

[light trail]

alright, what situations would she be picked in over anyone else who is already used often in vanguards

[stark quiver]

ill take a wild guess and say aurora in a anti light comp with either soy or kear or 3bb

[light trail]

can we do this without comparing to a different ship please because im not a ship meta encyclopedia

[viscid swift]

I mean, difficult to say

She'll be a while

[jaunty vault]

wife i read that as wife

[austere jewel]

Does Amagi(CV) skill boost stackable special burns?

[viscid swift]

also, kinda difficult to do considering we need to compare them to determine which ones will be used and what not

[light trail]

gotcha

[fleet berry]

The reason why people compare her to Aurora is because both can debuff enemy EVA rate. Aurora can only debuff DD/CL by 20%, while Trafalgar can debuff any hull by 10%. But, Trafalgar's debuff is tied to the flagship salvo, unlike Aurora's.

[scarlet pewter]

My mail was 100/100 before this event did I miss anything important

[light trail]

what situations had aurora in the fleet? campaign boss, meta, challenge?

[fleet berry]

Boss, usually CL/DD META showdown or dossier. Eg JintsuuM. Also the next KawakazeM, but Trafalgar will replace her, I think.

[light trail]

i read earlier someone saying something comparing her to laffey2 (dont remember what) and saying she would be an upgrade, is there anything of substance in that? could she be used in the same way in later campaign stages?

[viscid swift]

no, seeing as she's not nearly as tanky

she trades tankiness for utility and better AA

[austere jewel]

Is there a enemy where I can test this? Like a boss, with no defence boosting skills? If there even is such a thing.

[light trail]

so she's very situational and not another god tier for everything like z52?

[gaunt cedar]

is there faction from pr1 thats better to grind?

[hardy creek]

What's the clear condition for the sp stage?

[wind hazel]

kill boss

[inner delta]

keep killing, boss will spawn

[viscid swift]

I don't know if I would go so far as to say very situational but she's not quite a jack of all trades ship no

beat 7 mobs to spawn the boss, kill the boss

[light trail]

i'll check to see what she's good at again in 3 months i guess

[gray sphinx]

just me or did they make sp stage even easier than normal? Like it was alright before but my ships are literally untouched rn

[wind hazel]

easy is good

[gray sphinx]

well yea it's good I'm just wondering if I'm tripping or not lol

[fleet berry]

I also won't call Z52 a god-tier ship. It's more that she can do a lot of thing quite well at the same time. She's not as tanky as LII, but she's not paper-thin either. Her DPS might be lower than Unzen/Hindenburg, but not shite either. But, because she can do everything competent enough, she can fit a lot more comps easily.

[viscid swift]

now that I think about it I probably would use Trafalgar over Z52 for Hornet META comps but who cares at this point lol

[slow fox]

Who discovered Trafalgar has better AA than Z52?
-# Is my calc wrong

[viscid swift]

huh

[sterile jolt]

Maybe, but you dont go for lion and amagi in same fleet in any ways if you asking about that comp

[slow fox]

-# I have them down as samesame AA

[fleet berry]

Yeah, I can see why. Her AA is on Z52-tier anyway.

[sweet delta]

Trafalgar DMG: 87761/81397/87597 DPS: 992/920/990
Single 113, Imp. Quad Mag, Twin 134mm, , , Dual Swords

Plymouth DMG: 141182/127022/104949 DPS: 1595/1435/1186
Ply Gun, Imp. Quad Mag, Twin 76mm, , , Crossbow

[slow fox]

Suchimisinformation spotted

[viscid swift]

why is her damage the worst against medium armor

[sweet delta]

same as z52

[viscid swift]

not gonna question it

[sweet delta]

not gonna answer it

[wind hazel]

not plymouth pro max, but plymouth lite 😭

[austere jewel]

Sushi, how can I test damage?

[sweet delta]

Actually i will answer it

the main gun barrage and her AoA are weakest on medium by slightly

quad mags are good for heavy and single 113 is marginally better for light

[austere jewel]

Wait it was ALL MATH?!

Is there really no accurate way to test damage? In play

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[wind hazel]

wait few weeks

[whole crypt]

too many variables in actual combat

[mellow cape]

Interesting so tra has close dps to z52....

[sweet delta]

the breakdown by weapon

weapon name does N salvos in T seconds, doing L/M/H damage, L/M/H DPS, and L/M/H %DPS
Trafalgar                  DMG: 87761/81397/87597    DPS: 992/920/990
Single 113, Imp. Quad Mag, Twin 134mm, , , Dual Swords
    Slot 1 Single 113         does 138 in 88.44s  14205/7103/2841        161/80/32        16.2/8.7/3.2%
    Slot 2 Imp. Quad Mag      does 4   in 78.57s  10204/12755/16582      130/162/211      11.6/15.7/18.9%
    AoA                       does 13  in 84.48s  32782/31818/35340      388/377/418      37.4/39.1/40.3%
    Heroic Will               does 69  in 87.82s  14803/10417/8224       169/119/94       16.9/12.8/9.4%
    Fearless Spirit           does 69  in 88.44s  14150/17688/22994      160/200/260      16.1/21.7/26.3%
    Luminous Domain           does 4   in 77.00s  1616/1616/1616         21/21/21         1.8/2.0/1.8%

[mellow cape]

So I can replace Aurora / Sirius positions with Trafalgar now right?

[viscid swift]

no

[sweet delta]

Z52

Z52                        DMG: 122130/120955/125555    DPS: 1369/1356/1408
Single 113, Imp. Quad Mag, Twin 134mm, , , Dual Swords
    Slot 1 Single 113         does 122 in 88.20s  14139/7070/2828        160/80/32        11.6/5.8/2.3%
    Slot 2 Imp. Quad Mag      does 5   in 81.41s  15522/19402/25222      191/238/310      12.7/16.0/20.1%
    Every 1                   does 122 in 89.20s  51685/51685/51685      579/579/579      42.3/42.7/41.2%
    AoA every 5               does 24  in 87.80s  32728/32728/32728      373/373/373      26.8/27.1/26.1%
    AoA every 10              does 12  in 88.80s  8057/10071/13093       91/113/147       6.6/8.3/10.4%```

[viscid swift]

clearly underpowered/s

[sweet delta]

Trafalgar DMG: 87222/77831/68772 DPS: 988/881/779
Twin 138.6, Imp. Quad Mag, Twin 134mm, , , Dual Swords

Trafalgar DMG: 89707/71301/79235 DPS: 1014/806/895
Twin 100 Kai, Imp. Quad Mag, Twin 134mm, , , Dual Swords

Trafalgar DMG: 87761/81397/87597 DPS: 992/920/990
Single 113, Imp. Quad Mag, Twin 134mm, , , Dual Swords

[austere jewel]

Cool, is there like a excel sheet you do this in or?

[mellow cape]

#gameplay-help message

Maybe I should stop lurking and assuming 😭

[hardy creek]

Need help with sp stage guys, I could only cut down the boss hp in half with 0 ammo, is it a problem of ammo? Am I too underleveled or gears?

[wind hazel]

no 2nd fleet?

[viscid swift]

well fighting the boss with ammo would certainly help

[sweet delta]

trafalgar with oath 200 and max DD RLD can use single 113 without goldburn/autoloader

if less rld, 113 may be about as good as 76

[hardy creek]

I have but theyre pretty underleveled

[visual bane]

if im farming chkalov can i use a combination of italian and russian ships to get xp

[wind hazel]

how far can enterprise awaken to?

how many exp she accumulated

[hardy creek]

I've already awakened her, she's level 100 rn, got her yesterday

[wind hazel]

then try and use that 2nd fleet to attack 1star fleet, preserve 1 ammo on the main fleet and fight boss with it

otherwise skip until they are more leveled

[hardy creek]

Alright

I got a few hundreds xp packs, should I use it on enterprise?

[wind hazel]

no

[mellow cape]

Save it so that you can skip 1-80 or 1-100 leveling and level the rest in 12-4 and plus

[sage hare]

Do the "open X gearbox" from the new handbook missions not stack or is my game bugged?

[honest sequoia]

is having 3 +13 white n black shell enough
or i do need 3 more +13 of them

[wind hazel]

enough

[stark quiver]

they dont stack

[desert prairie]

do you guys pull multiple copies of Lion for limit break so you can use bulin for Trafalgar instead?

[jaunty vault]

nah

[viscid swift]

I have enough bullins to MLB them both and then some

[jaunty vault]

but that's cause I got the bulins

[candid hound]

What would i choose,I'm new player

[jaunty vault]

dont

[viscid swift]

no one, pull on the event

[candid hound]

Aight thank you

[desert prairie]

i only have 3 ur bulin

[jaunty vault]

viable strategy if you have the cubes, dont have the bulins and wouldn't recommend going beyond 200 pulls

[stark quiver]

abdou strat

[rigid onyx]

it's not really viable if you have to ask; 160 cubes on average for 1 UR bulin of value is pretty bad

[desert prairie]

yea i'm pretty conflicted since i still have some UR ships not fully limit break yet because i stopped playing for some time

[polar lion]

What's the prelims for Traf? Is she just upgraded Bristol or another op DD?

[twilit sage]

imma be honest i dont think imma make it with 100 affinity with lion today, hack i doubt if it is even doable in 18 hours

[mellow cape]

Yeah I got to 73 today but 1 day is tough for 100 because of morale regen

[twilit sage]

i guess unless i started playing when the patch is up and i got her immd.

[viscid swift]

Someone already oathed her in #trophy-room

[twilit sage]

man, paying the price of been a lazy ass

[covert phoenix]

Anyone have any videos of hard EX mode clears currently?

[ocean herald]

Is there a mistake somewhere here or am I missing something?

[slow fox]

mutsukistare

fixed thanks

Do you want credits in the patch notes

[sweet delta]

i want credits

nvm i already have like 50 million credits in the bank

[slow fox]

delusional

[cobalt gate]

so any good 1:1 fleet for the sp boss? finding it hard to kill the boss in time for S

[wind hazel]

alsace z52

[slow fox]

Raffaelo and Raffaelo (CB)

-# This is just Raffaelo and Brest

[cobalt gate]

ok so not unicorn this time

[wind hazel]

you guys actually 1 fleet the entire sp?

[stark quiver]

yea

i press advice and my pvp fleet pops up

[wind hazel]

too many oil issue

[cobalt gate]

btw is there a gimmick with the boss that i need to kill the mobs sourounding it or nothing like that

[next raft]

Is it worth having 2 lions or should I use the one for the last star?

[cobalt rapids]

unicorn an shan can 1:1 with S

[cobalt gate]

120 am shan or 125

[dreamy blade]

no just limit break using the dupe and save a bulin

[sterile jolt]

Theres no point to have 2 copies of any UR ships tbh

[pseudo phoenix]

Which recommended UR shipgirl to pick once a player hits 400 pulls in total?

[next raft]

Alright sweet thanks card and uka 🙏

[sterile jolt]

Shinano

[cobalt rapids]

shinano

[noble tulip]

Anyone else unable to login

[sweet delta]

my uni anshan got an A rank

[cobalt rapids]

was it rocket uni ?

[daring light]

i was inactive for a few weeks, but what happen? event start on tuesday?

[wind hazel]

what's the loadout, i wanna try today

la9 wyvern? or spearfish

[sweet delta]

hvar spear and a +10 twin 100 kai

[cobalt rapids]

la9 and uh idr which rainbow tb and anshan was on 100kai and the usuall ddg stuff

[inner idol]

Do dorms and hot springs stack?

[twilit sage]

+10

[inner idol]

@twilit sage oh like an extra 10? Like 30 to 40?

[twilit sage]

yeah

[warped acorn]

what does fast forward do

[cobalt rapids]

makes stuff on the stage go zoomies

[warped acorn]

hmm

[wind hazel]

it's for events where mobs will move towards your fleet

[warped acorn]

damn sounds interesting

[wind hazel]

without it you'll spend like more than 10s watching the mob move 1 by 1 😭

[stark quiver]

my single fleet got mobbed

[cobalt rapids]

new players shouldnt attempt

[unborn owl]

BiS for Lio?n

[cobalt rapids]

standard bb

[normal cedar]

is it possible to clear out the entire villa coin shop?

[cobalt rapids]

yea very easily

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks!

[fallow sedge]

How good is the new ur gun

[cobalt rapids]

nj gun upgrade

[warped acorn]

what faction (tech points) should i focus on research

[fallow sedge]

I should get it?

[cobalt rapids]

absolutely, like every limited event gear

[cobalt rapids]

that depends what ships in research ure working towards

[warped acorn]

but am currently doing pr1 or maybe i should go for ply?

[stark quiver]

pr4/5/7 is better than pr1 bruh
every season is better then pr1 focus

[eager marsh]

does pulling on the customizable banner contribute to daily mission or to pity?

[gaunt cedar]

do you have enough faction tech for other pr seasons?

[warped acorn]

no, thats why am asking what faction to focus on

[gaunt cedar]

do pr1 until you have enough faction points for something else

focus on the ship you're developing in research

[hardy creek]

For average level requirement of ship for sp, does it only count for main ship?

[cobalt rapids]

yes, it says in pins aswell

[atomic abyss]

All except subs yes

[normal cedar]

ironblood for fdg , uss for anchorage

[hardy creek]

Also is saint Louis good? I just finished her research and got her

[sterile jolt]

Decent

[gaunt cedar]

ive read pr4 ships are best for new players after you unlock faction tech to develop them

[warped acorn]

alr then ima see

[gaunt cedar]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/research/researchprio here i use thhis guide

[warped acorn]

o

[eager marsh]

do you use trafalgar copy as feeder or keep?

[cobalt rapids]

if u focus s4 only focus on gear research projects and only focus it at most till u get like 1 copy of each gold gear

[sterile jolt]

Usually feeder

[unborn owl]

can i use gold shell on lion? since she's a Royal Nacy

[atomic abyss]

You can and it'll work great
Not sure why you even have it though

[honest sequoia]

who should i get from wishing wel??

[crimson glacier]

no one

[normal cedar]

should I buy a gold shell for lion? I have 2 sets of white shells

[atomic abyss]

See pins for the recommendations
This assumes you already got Lion

[crimson glacier]

yellow shell is completely useless

[warped acorn]

whats this

[atomic abyss]

No
Just get a normal white shell
There's literally no notable difference with them aside the fact yellow shell must be used on royal ships only

[hard flicker]

Help me in w15-3, i cant get 3star in this map

[strong tartan]

profile frame

[normal cedar]

oh ok i see
i thought the rate was higher for gold ones..

[atomic abyss]

Fancy profile border

[twilit sage]

wait a min we dont got double gems refresh off of this anni?

[crimson glacier]

coz this isnt EN anniv

[atomic abyss]

Because it's not EN's anni

/campaign

[twilit sage]

i see, so we expecting mid november?

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[sharp socket]

is it on safe

[crimson glacier]

en is august

[strong tartan]

no we're in August

[atomic abyss]

@hard flicker have you tried looking at this

Also yes, is it safe?

[twilit sage]

i see

[strong tartan]

we're right before jp anniv so we don't get a fancy ur

[hard flicker]

Not, just color red @@!

[strong tartan]

not like we need one

[honest sequoia]

well yes i do but idk who to pick between aurora and aquila

[sharp socket]

then bring the stage down to safe before attempting 3* unless you wanna show us your dock and see if it can do it on lethal

[eternal basalt]

November os collab month, jp anni is in September

[sharp socket]

lethal 3* is possible just quite a bit harder

[twilit sage]

do we normally get UR units during EN anni?

[atomic abyss]

No

[strong tartan]

no the most we've gotten was Eldridge retro I guess

[eternal basalt]

We got UR Retro last year

[twilit sage]

i see

thats good since i need to recover a bit

[atomic abyss]

What's your goal then
Pushing to w14/15
Or opsi harbiters/meta showdowns

[honest sequoia]

Opsi

[atomic abyss]

Aurora it is then

[honest sequoia]

ive been using volga to cope

[hard flicker]

[sharp socket]

do w14/15 its fun

[eternal basalt]

Next NEW Ur in sept, rerun BisII ???

[atomic abyss]

Yep get it down to safe first

[hard flicker]

This map so hard, cant kill all enemy without ammo

[atomic abyss]

Just remember there will likely be Bis 2 rerun between now and the next new UR, if you haven't gotten her that is

[sharp socket]

if you're lazy/impatient/looking for a challenge we can cook 3* lethal with your dock

[atomic abyss]

It's not really a challenge for them if we're the one cooking it lol

[hard flicker]

I have played this game for a long time, but always followed the instructions. This time I followed the instructions on youtube but failed to get 3 stars

[wind hazel]

inb4 kimocheese youtube

[weak moat]

Also who is good from the early summer thing to claim

[atomic abyss]

Pins have the recommendations

[hardy creek]

So is Cleopatra good?

[unkempt drift]

is it okay to like burn the grey and blue ships to get dock space

[atomic abyss]

Use grey for enhancing other ships
Blue you can retire if they're easy to get back

[atomic abyss]

We don't know
We need to test her
Kit doesn't indicate a lot

[unkempt drift]

wait so we can just use any grey ship without any problems

[atomic abyss]

Pretty much

[unkempt drift]

well that solves my dock problems, good bye all locked grey ships

[gaunt cedar]

dont

[unkempt drift]

y

[gaunt cedar]

locked ships are locked for a reason

[unkempt drift]

But I won't use them