gameplay-help

[polar lion]

60k pts is dumb expensive

[crimson glacier]

but is it

[wind hazel]

that is why you minmax and buy everything last day

[crimson glacier]

dont we have a lot of time to get those 60k anyway

[wind hazel]

you get 435 if you wait until last day, so only need to buy the remaining 65 vouchers

[normal cedar]

traffy mlb isnt a priority anyways right unlike lion?

[wind hazel]

for newer players, prioritize lion first

[timber hearth]

Guys can I ask what I need to do as a new player?

[plain saffron]

Like what to aim or something? Also wtf is that pfp

[polar lion]

Summon Sam newbie guide

[timber hearth]

Ok

[remote yarrow]

Is it really that hard to link it?
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips @timber hearth

[tame jungle]

yes it is

[sharp comet]

are there only 3 gacha-only ships this event?

[limpid warren]

The meta should be in the build pool as well no?

[remote yarrow]

Isn't that normal? 3 Rate up ships + an 0.5% that you can get from map drops

[fair lance]

They said Gacha only ships

[remote yarrow]

The meta is in the pool but it's 0.5%

[limpid warren]

Ah I forgor the dd was shop only

[fair lance]

Yeah but only being only way to get them in the gacha

[limpid warren]

Wait Trinidad’s a thing so lion, Cleopatra, and Trinidad are the three gacha only, and the glorious meta is in the build pool as well but can also be bought in the event shop

Yes, that’s sounds right

[fair lance]

I believe so

[limpid warren]

Oh there’s gallant as well

She should be build only

[remote yarrow]

Either Gallant or Trinidad are gonna be Milestone

[robust onyx]

Trinidad is milestone reward

[limpid warren]

Swap Trinidad for gallant ^

[faint cloud]

that lion's beginning and every 15s barrage now only launch max 3 times per battle

damage loss a bit but not that much says

[tame jungle]

where did you get that restriction from

[faint cloud]

cuz cn's maint is over

[cobalt herald]

Once the maintenance finishes, will the prelude event/missions still be available. I just realized I had missed the final day, so I didn't get the final cutscene or the reward. WIll I still be able to once maintenance finishes?

[wind hazel]

this one?

[cobalt herald]

Yes, that one

[remote yarrow]

Don't preludes last 2 weeks?

[wind hazel]

until 11th June

[cobalt herald]

Including the missions?

[wind hazel]

yes

[cobalt herald]

Oh thank god. I was starting to panic. Thank you for answering!

[gaunt cedar]

is there a way to obtain san diego augment without buying with protocores

[wind hazel]

no

[tame jungle]

augment yes
retrofit item no

[remote yarrow]

Don't you mean her Retrofit item?

Cuz augment you can just craft it

[gaunt cedar]

im not sure which one it is but i have a mic item in protocore shop where you buy ur bullins for 4k

microphone item i mean

[remote yarrow]

Yeah that's her retro item and it's bought with Spec Core

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 damn i answered it without fact checking

[tame jungle]

misinfo smh

[wind hazel]

correct answer though

[gaunt cedar]

thanks

[paper walrus]

Leaks are not allowed here right

[wind hazel]

there's no leak

[paper walrus]

No im asking in general lol

[wind hazel]

no im saying because there has been zero leak in 8 yrs of azur lane history

[paper walrus]

[atomic abyss]

What does "leak" even mean

[remote yarrow]

If you are referring to future content that's mainly stuff people get from datamining CN lol
As far as I know

[wind hazel]

urine leak 🏃🏼‍♂️‍➡️

[paper walrus]

Ig im just misremembering then nvm

[atomic abyss]

Unlike genshin or wuwa or what not

There isn't any beta test stuff to leak

[crimson glacier]

manjuu just says fuck it we ball

[atomic abyss]

For better or worse, yes

[paper walrus]

Isnt en and cn at the same point rn tho

[crimson glacier]

and releses buggy broken mess like mog

[normal cedar]

so shes bad for long battles?

[atomic abyss]

Anything you may perceive as "leaks"

[remote yarrow]

CN updates come out like 12 hours earlier

[storm olive]

Cn is ahead by like half a day

[atomic abyss]

Are probably datamines

[paper walrus]

[fair lance]

No her barrage still fires every salvo.

It's just the part that fires without her using her salvo

[atomic abyss]

Even then

[normal cedar]

oh.ok

[atomic abyss]

It's not strange

Alsace is also not as good for long battles

[hushed sorrel]

azur lane always gives plenty of time :)

[faint cloud]

that part of dmg isn't great, so it's a little bit of loss but generally not a big impact

[atomic abyss]

Something something we need to actually test

Also in any case

You only typically get 3 salvos off for BBs anyways

Maybe 4 if you push your reload

Assuming all the information is true

It's not going to change stuff by all that much for typical battle lengths

And even then

It's only what, CM that the difference may become noticeable?

[patent pivot]

Iirc my tests were alsace is still higher for fight under 200s. Basically just CM, even then it depends on comp because buffs are good

[atomic abyss]

Alsace only falls behind cos she's worse when comparing salvo for salvo anyways

[faint cloud]

lion has two parts of barrages, one procs when firing a salvo, but this nerf affected the constantly fires one, but again not that much loss🔮

[normal cedar]

its not about dmg
she wont be able to apply her status effect

[remote yarrow]

Her burn doesn't run out tho

[tame jungle]

are you sure?

[normal cedar]

oh wait, it doesnt expire? then its not a problem ig

[atomic abyss]

something something wait for the ship to fucking come out

or you look like the guy who posted in #game-feedback

[boreal wagon]

pretty sure

[wind hazel]

are you beautifully, charming sure?

[boreal wagon]

[normal cedar]

oh ok, but i was wondering what players use now for battles over 3 minutes cuz cv would go out of sync for long battles as well...

[cobalt rapids]

why would they go out of sync

[atomic abyss]

you just make the sync windows extremely tight to begin with

[normal cedar]

for example, if 1 cv has 21 sec reload amd another 22 sec then that 1 sec window will grow to 2 sec by 2nd strike, 3 sec by third and so On

[reef flume]

Are they nerfing Lion the same moment of this patch?

[cobalt rapids]

you can sync for 10 minutes in cm
now if u mean syncing to enemy mechanics then thats something else but even then if drifting happens its ususally in the last 3 min

[atomic abyss]

^

which is why

the recommended sync window is +- 0.2s

[ebon topaz]

Is ur ship after the update

[atomic abyss]

not 1 full second

[cobalt rapids]

if 1cv has 21 sec and another 22 sec then they arent synced for 90s fights in the first place

[ebon topaz]

:D

[normal cedar]

wow, i see that makes sense
i got it thanks

[ebon topaz]

Gambling :D

[atomic abyss]

for a 10 min battle where you're capped by the absolute cooldown instead of the differences

if you manage to sync to 0.01s

which is, not impossible

[normal cedar]

i see, in that case who launches first? if two of those have same sync time

[cobalt rapids]

flag->top->bottom if they are the exact same launch

well abit more margin than exact same

[faint cloud]

good thing that the event map is in speed mod with moveable foes again

[ebon topaz]

Actually should i be pulling this banner or save

[atomic abyss]

UR so pull

[strong tartan]

pull

[reef flume]

Pull

[hushed sorrel]

well i would also pull. hope my opinion helps

[reef flume]

What's y'all opinion on this?

[ebon topaz]

Ok thx :D

[tame jungle]

what's this even supposed to be

[hushed sorrel]

to much text

[atomic abyss]

given that the skills have changed more than once since maint started

any DPS chart is meaningless

[ebon topaz]

No idea :>

[reef flume]

Damage numbers against armor types

[cobalt rapids]

reikurozaki chart

[tame jungle]

in that case i think the answer is "wait for testing"

[atomic abyss]

just wait for the ship to actually come out...

[tame jungle]

i think at this point numbers i pull straight out my ass will be more indicative than whatever this is

[atomic abyss]

for all we know shes bugged and doesnt even function according to theoreticals anyways

[ebon topaz]

Why they gotta update on an afternoon

[wind hazel]

why not

[strong tartan]

ask them

[tame jungle]

#maintenance-channel if you wanna complain

[copper pine]

6 hours to go... oof

[fringe sail]

Tbf
It's midnight on the in-game clock

It's just time zones f up the once the eastern side

[hushed sorrel]

casue they update worldwide

[atomic abyss]

something something maint starts at midnight server time

something something, devs are in china

something something

[copper pine]

touch the grass

[strong tartan]

something something just go take a nap or something something

[copper pine]

it will help you all

[wind hazel]

no i want to touch 2D boobs

[copper pine]

6 hours isn't a nap tbf

[cobalt rapids]

unzen with the same dps on all armor types

[wind hazel]

btw anyone knows if sandy enty still in rookie mission?

[atomic abyss]

i took a 3h nap and then woke and saw someone complain about lion in feedback based on datamined stuff alone

what else could possible go wrong

[copper pine]

im working with heavy fever here

[ebon topaz]

take a nap forever

[atomic abyss]

if CN isnt up

assume we have no info about updated rookie missions

[hushed sorrel]

3h nap? thats a unusual time if you ask me. either sleep 6-10h or just like 15min

[copper pine]

during maintenance, touch some grass at least

[tame jungle]

even worse, on datamined STATS alone

[strong tartan]

datamined stats not even skills

[gaunt cedar]

yes

[copper pine]

btw i still need to finish 15-3 and 4

[hushed sorrel]

me too. even 15-2

[faint cloud]

need to do the long ass missions every stage to see the next stage and then there're 9 stages

maybe enty and sandy are really gone

[copper pine]

just sleep on grass until maintenance ends

or, get a job

[cobalt rapids]

you said that already

[copper pine]

oh renhex

been a while

[honest sequoia]

censor the word next time
it scares me

[visual bane]

j*b

[bleak mica]

should Trafalgar use the single 113mm or any UR DD gun?

[atomic abyss]

we dont know, need to test

[frank pulsar]

so lion looks a like a bb with extremely strong shelling and mulitple barrages
do we have multipliers for ger barrages

[atomic abyss]

no

[frank pulsar]

will we find out when she releases?

[atomic abyss]

maybe

depends on how hard the dataminers are working

[cobalt rapids]

uhm barrages are in datamine

[frank pulsar]

oh im blind mb

[atomic abyss]

well not like the numbers on their own mean much anyways

[frank pulsar]

what does hit_ignore mean? it ignores shields?

[sweet delta]

If I had to guess from the name, I would guess that it applies the burn no matter if it rpg hits or not

[frank pulsar]

new bb gun is ur or ssr?

[atomic abyss]

UR

[crimson glacier]

oh right i forgot that, is it any good

[atomic abyss]

NJ gun level at least

[whole crypt]

probably just treat as a sidegrade for now, timing more relevant than the slight dmg difference and only one copy anyway

not like Kear will want it on an anti-light because faction gear

Soyuz maybe if you try anti-light on Nak/FR, need to check timings with rocketcat

[cobalt rapids]

is 10% fp more valueable than 1-2 more volleys?

[frank pulsar]

triple 406mm mk7
167x3, 140/110/90, 24.22s, 15 area, 19 spread, 10 velocity
triple 406mm mkii
162x3, 145/110/90, 23.34s, 16 area, 19 spread, 12 velocity

looks like its an all around improvement

[whole crypt]

probably not but what's the comparison

[cobalt rapids]

kearsarge mk7 vs mkii

[whole crypt]

is there where the timing's at on Kear between the 2 guns?

[cobalt rapids]

a max invested kear yes

[whole crypt]

[cobalt rapids]

(non oathers can ignore this)

[wind hazel]

i shall ignore

[whole crypt]

how many shells difference is that

[cobalt rapids]

3-6

[whole crypt]

4 strike right?

[atomic abyss]

uh

[sharp comet]

the event where manjuu promotes manual play glowworm retro + main gun capacity

[atomic abyss]

is lion gun above or lower prio than glory meta

[whole crypt]

so 30-33 vs 36 assuming all hits, 10% FP also scales on barrage... a bit in the air then

[cobalt rapids]

higher unless ure like a boomer with 3 nj guns

[paper walrus]

There js already lion gun?

[atomic abyss]

UR gun in shop yes

[whole crypt]

I'd take gun over ship regardless

[cobalt rapids]

i would aswell

[whole crypt]

GM is just another CV rld isn't it

[sharp comet]

is lions inferno really infinite? so it's permanent 10% damage buff for every unit til end of the fight for bosses?

[cobalt rapids]

yes but shes also 0.01% CR

[whole crypt]

maybe I'll rush her to max Hornet M fleet for the last week

[atomic abyss]

hm?

there was a torp?

[whole crypt]

anyway, so it might be up in the air mk7 vs mkii, at least until we get maybe 1 more BB rld

[normal cedar]

maybe its a ssr gear for traffy? if cn had it then we shouldve had details by now, kinda sus...

[sharp comet]

she has her own domain expansion

[whole crypt]

regardless sidegrade and timing, definitely top priority for shop

[fickle hollow]

how good is Trafalgar on paper?

[whole crypt]

very

[atomic abyss]

we dont know how good exactly

kit has too many unknowns to be sure

[fickle hollow]

[sharp comet]

what do they mean by additionally triggered

[vale spindle]

what torp

it's triggered twice instead of once

[sharp comet]

ohh

so it can give 24% fp or trp?

[atomic abyss]

arent you the one who made the sheet

[vale spindle]

Or 12% of both

[sharp comet]

thats op wtf

[vale spindle]

if you check again you will notice it changed to not show a torpedo equipment
wonder how that happened

[atomic abyss]

still there

[vale spindle]

sheet updates every minute cause otherwise it would crash

[atomic abyss]

i refreshed it when you pinged me tho

sheets issue

[vale spindle]

ok maybe its every few minutes

[atomic abyss]

well uh

good luck getting glowworm

if she isnt farmable this event i might just die of laughter

[cobalt rapids]

cant u just farm her in w11 if needed

[wind hazel]

she's on a2 c2 lol

[normal cedar]

I know I should wait for the maint to get over, but I had just one question wrt lion
There is no limit to the number of enemies that can be inflicted by inferno?

[paper walrus]

What is the guaranteed monthly cube income?

[atomic abyss]

we dont know ]

[atomic abyss]

168

[cobalt rapids]

no limit

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks, Ill wait still to confirm

[atomic abyss]

do we even know thats for sure umi

[cobalt rapids]

i mean its not mentioned in the datamine

[boreal wagon]

i dont see anything that'd limit the amount of enemies affected

[paper walrus]

Isnt it a good idea to do the daily pull in the special banner then? You should be getting 138+ cubes a month which should still be enough (i think) for UR banners. That way you hit pity faster in the standard banner and you also have a chance to get a UR from it

[atomic abyss]

you want 400 in case you need to hit pity for UR banners

consider we have 4 new UR events a year

and if you're not a boomer, you have to account for the 4 reruns as well

[whole crypt]

so now instead of a burning BB we have a BB that burns everything

[cobalt rapids]

30 cubes is 30 cubes tho in 1 year ure missing on almost a full pity

[atomic abyss]

also also NJ and Nano are now free

[whole crypt]

NJ or Shinano are now free

[paper walrus]

Oh i didnt consider the reruns

[atomic abyss]

thank you for the correction

also need to account for collabs or anything else you may want

[paper walrus]

What

[atomic abyss]

new beginner missions allow you to choose NJ/nano at the end

[whole crypt]

new rookie missions end reward is a pick of one of the 2

[late flame]

Rookie mission deux

[paper walrus]

Oh thats really cool

[hollow quartz]

Do we know what the new begginer missions are going to be?

[late flame]

Until you realise newer players still laaaaaaack UR bulins to MLB 🌈

[atomic abyss]

no we dont

[whole crypt]

you could have hit a pity or 2 by the time you get there, and that's less bulins needed to max one of them for use

[late flame]

unless akashi selling UR bulins

[mellow cape]

Update ends in 3 hours and 25 mins?

[whole crypt]

we also need to establish whether it's reasonable to expect new players to buy all or part of the new spec cores

do we know cost yet?

[atomic abyss]

CN is up already so

could ask rime

[whole crypt]

I could try installing CN

[inner delta]

asking is easier than installing tbh

[faint cloud]

10 medals for 100 cores

[whole crypt]

I'm just looking for an excuse to join the CN lucky draws

[knotty garnet]

Indeed. speaking of, what is the general consensus on the boats so far

[whole crypt]

isn't that the first 1k, the new 2k costs more

[faint cloud]

no

[inner delta]

lion good, dd good rest is idk

[whole crypt]

oh first 1k is 6/100

so 260 to buy everything each month?

[faint cloud]

oh forgot that is 6

[whole crypt]

[knotty garnet]

Joining CN isnt easy. Even someone like me who played all three main servers at one point eventually dropped CN because of the hoops you needed to go through

[whole crypt]

what hoops

[knotty garnet]

Anywho, I heard Lion is Powercreeping.

[inner delta]

yes

[knotty garnet]

Is she past Alsace/Zwei?

[whole crypt]

wait for testing™️

[gaunt cedar]

so since its ur event is it worth blowing all 150 cubes i saved and cubes i get during event or should i set limit for example 100 and if i dont get i save for another? i dont think i really care about either of these ur ships

[whole crypt]

Traf is free, not gacha; 150 now you have fair chance of hitting pity before end of event

the consideration is whether you want to save for BisZwei which may be soon after

[odd merlin]

Is it only me or are both new URs broken as shit?

[gaunt cedar]

i absolutely do

[odd merlin]

At least for HMS fleets

[whole crypt]

if you're not really interested in Lion maybe just pull 1 or 3 daily

[gaunt cedar]

1-3 on limited construction for event right?

[whole crypt]

yes

[gaunt cedar]

okay thanks

[whole crypt]

I'd think it's still good to try for her just no need to go all-in

[warped acorn]

how did u know they are broken as shit

[odd merlin]

Wdym?

[river junco]

abilities just look like they powercreep older ships on paper

[odd merlin]

Well that is true

[river junco]

forget the urs, cleopatra and glorious meta's abilities look kinda nice too

[odd merlin]

Real

I don't really use metas myself but yesterday I got my ass wooped in PvP by a fleet with them

Maybe I should start using them...

[late flame]

eh. check pinned message in #pvp

[pseudo hearth]

Now that we have the datamines, are there any general thoughts on how good the new ships and retrofit are?

[late flame]

i would tell you but i'd need to steal a time machine

[whole crypt]

ok the new box thing is nice

up to 100 boxes and you get a confirmation screen to scrap

[north gorge]

really nice

[wind hazel]

time to convert all boxes and get free coin

[whole crypt]

and you can open over depot cap

[cobalt rapids]

over depot cap

[late flame]

mindblown

[north gorge]

can finally get rid of all those boxes I'd never have opened because who has time for that

[cobalt rapids]

yes mindblow

[whole crypt]

it probably won't let you when you're capped, but otherwise you can open up to 100 even if you don't have 100 slots

the feature tutorial has a lot of categories for 2 cubes ea

newbie mission

[river junco]

more cubes to fuel my gacha addiction, nice

[atomic abyss]

after 8 years finally frontloading resources?

[late flame]

holy moonrunes

[boreal wagon]

does it allow custom input tho or is it the same pain as always where u have to click + forever

[whole crypt]

not really frontloading you still need to do those things and some won't be day 1

[whole crypt]

just push max

[late flame]

999 when

[boreal wagon]

damn they remembered to make custom input valid

[patent pivot]

Sim is toast for now so im gonna be setting up calcs for the next couple hours. I only plan to check light since med is like a 40% dmg gap between old BB and CV and im fairly sure heavy is a similar story

[faint cloud]

seems the total amount of cubes from newbie guide is 148 or 158

[whole crypt]

one for the feature tutorial tasks is taking ur pity

[forest palm]

how's Cleopatra btw

[atomic abyss]

@vale spindle could you relook at lion s3

this part seems wrong

seems to only apply to torp dmg taken by lion herself and not a universal debuff

[woven star]

How new gun looking?

[atomic abyss]

nj gun level

[woven star]

Diff cdr?

[atomic abyss]

faster for slightly less dmg iirc
also higher base fp

[whole crypt]

EW those drill shaped sub things again

[wheat ore]

is this update the UR ship event?

ah okay should i only do like 3 pulls a day? is that the strategy?

[cobalt rapids]

the strategy is to make sure u get lion

doing 3 pulls per day and realising on the last day u dont have enough coins is not a good strategy

[wheat ore]

so you think i should just pull as much as i can today?

[harsh gust]

if you want to be optimal with your rolls - no, 3 a day is a good strategy
just be sure to have enough to go all out on the last day

[cobalt rapids]

u can plan ahead
technically u save 1 cube per day when u do an event banner pull

[tranquil dagger]

how come 3x a day is optimal

[atomic abyss]

cos there's an event mission for 3 builds a day

[harsh gust]

you need to roll 3 a day for event task regardless

[tranquil dagger]

gotcha

[cobalt rapids]

1 event pull per day save u 1 cube
3 per day gives u some extra event pts which are kinda w.e and safe to ignore

[obsidian ivy]

The qol of letting you have multiple PR ships for skin purposes isn't in yet right?

[honest sequoia]

theres a optimal way to pull URs????

[cobalt rapids]

idr anything like that being announced in the first place

[harsh gust]

it doesn't really effect your rolls or chances to get one
it's just slightly more efficient

[north gorge]

Multi-PR for skins was shown in the CN anniv stream I thought

[cobalt rapids]

it was ? idr

[honest sequoia]

how efficient

[harsh gust]

just explained above

[polar lion]

Free pts every 3 pulls

[last zenith]

powerful

[blissful hamlet]

is this a 2 week or 3 week event?

[inland shoal]

Neither, it is a 22 day event

[blissful hamlet]

extra day

[wind hazel]

it's 23

[undone plover]

U need to do 1 pull every day for the mission that gives back cubes (I think it was 2?)
That is why net daily cube income is 4-1 since you use 1 coob for light banner every day outside of event

During event lets say u build everything day 1 so u spend 100 pulls
That means for 20 days after that u have to build 1 light build so u lose 1 cube
But if u spread those 100 builds over the whole event u dont need to do any light builds

[cobalt rapids]

it gives 1 cube back

[patent pivot]

@inland shoal is this for self?

[honest sequoia]

damn ive been pulling my URs wrong then 😭

[cobalt rapids]

light pull costs 1 cube -> mission gives 1 cube -> light pull refunded

[undone plover]

However this time there is also wishing well
So u might want to do daily builds on that if u have the cubes to go for both event and wishing well
Keeping in mind zwei rerun is soon
And zwei is still top tier BB
Also atelier collab rerun on the horizon

[honest sequoia]

i see now

[atomic abyss]

yes

[patent pivot]

thx

[inland shoal]

Yeah

[undone plover]

It is just a bit more min.max
U dont need to do this but it helps when u are a newbie and still need to pull reruns

[patent pivot]

also anyone have CN gifs of lion barrages. need to estimate hit rates

[undone plover]

I usually do 100 builds day 1 on UR if I have the gold then spread the rest if I dont sweep in 100
Some ppl go all the way up to 200 on day 1

20 cubes is nice but the income is good that u dont need to worry about it

[atomic abyss]

comparable to amagi BC iirc

[cobalt rapids]

1 amagi like barrage
1 alsus like barrage

[atomic abyss]

these 2 iirc?

[cobalt rapids]

ye

[patent pivot]

k

[normal cedar]

so if i wanna roll on zwei, what should I do?
if I roll all on last day then i risk not having coins if biszwei rerun is just 1 week after
if I roll all on first day then i lose out on cubes due to efficiency...

[atomic abyss]

bis 2 is rerun UR

she will have 43 pull tickets given

[undone plover]

I think he means he wants to maximize cubes in case she reruns

[atomic abyss]

just be patient and roll slowly

[undone plover]

Do 3-5 builds every day
Week 2 u can go up to 7-10
Week 3 up to 15

[whole crypt]

for reruns roll dailies on tickets first

[undone plover]

This way u ramp up and still spread builds
So u dont have to worry about having to do 100+ pulls on the last day

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks!! Ill do this

[hoary relic]

so i have heard that lion is like alasce+bis2

[undone plover]

If u get lucky with event
Make sure you do wishing well on light pool for aurora and kazagumo (or someone else if u have her from medal already)
And do your dailies on that banner

[hoary relic]

is that true?

[north gorge]

It does seem like BB powercreep is continuing

[undone plover]

I dont think any BB is similar to zwei tbf
Did I miss sth with lion skills

[molten zinc]

she more like Kear + Alsace + Vanguard than Zwei

[split gazelle]

do we know anything about the SR's available from the banner pool?

[hoary relic]

so that means lion 100% worthy to pull, like all URs

[cobalt rapids]

why kear

[atomic abyss]

special build pool

[polar lion]

Prolly coz burn

[split gazelle]

Oh I see, is it all factions or royal navy only?

[balmy skiff]

since Lion is released,who to spend one URin on?

[atomic abyss]

all

there's no faction restriction

[split gazelle]

oki thanks

[atomic abyss]

just 1? nobody

ask when you have 4
and ya know, when we can actually test lion

[sharp comet]

does everyone get the newbie missions?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[sharp comet]

[warped acorn]

wonder will the 'pity' save if u didnt managed to get the ur from pulling

[atomic abyss]

it does not carry over

[sharp comet]

no event pity ever carries over

[warped acorn]

hmm... what a gamble 🤔

[split gazelle]

me when playing gacha games

[molten zinc]

everyone become newbie again

[jaunty vault]

hi am new player

[whole crypt]

new player here

[warped acorn]

same

[acoustic monolith]

Ada orang Indonesia ga?

[split gazelle]

i never left new player status

[patent pivot]

ok in pure solo dmg terms lion is ~10% more than BiZ against light

[warped acorn]

no

[worldly pewter]

i don't think that there are regular indonesian helpers here

[plain saffron]

something2 english only, if want to speak in bahasa try indonesia fan server

[last zenith]

we all new player now? ok

[south sequoia]

Do we have anything for the new beginner missions?

[turbid marsh]

i understand, i ll try to behave like a new player then.

[acoustic monolith]

Hey can you guys get into the game?

[whole crypt]

pretty run of the mill tasks, sortie, PvP, open boxes

[tame jungle]

maintenance

[atomic abyss]

there is maintenance now

[acoustic monolith]

I am a new player

[wind hazel]

nice, me too

[south sequoia]

does 2-1 still work guys I watched a video from a super mega cool youtuber about it

[whole crypt]

maintenance now so servers are down

[wheat ore]

what's wishing well?

[inner delta]

[tame jungle]

new players are also affected by maintenance

[south sequoia]

I'm more interested in the rewards

[last zenith]

gng what starter should i choose

[whole crypt]

it lets you pick a pool out of heavy/special/light then pick 2 ships out of it to be rated up making its own "event" pool

[south sequoia]

Any spreadsheet somewhere that has em? I wanna see how much cubes I can reap from it

[north gorge]

apparently ~150 cubes plus whatever else there might be

[worldly pewter]

only the en server can't

[wheat ore]

ahh i see

[acoustic monolith]

Thank you for the information

[wind hazel]

that many?

[last zenith]

o no

[south sequoia]

150 cubes seems like a lot but then again this is the only time AL showers new players with this much amount of cubes

[whole crypt]

2 cubes per category someone said around 150 so maybe there are 70-ish categories

[warped acorn]

this better be true

[last zenith]

wait a minute. we getting 150 cubes??????

[turbid marsh]

i hardly do 2-1 anymore tbh, cause not worth my time. probably more cubes due to commission

[fleet berry]

Important to note that once you select your rate-up characters, you can't change them. And you can't mix-and-match pools.

[fair phoenix]

What's em

[tame jungle]

wait for the game to be up smfh

[wheat ore]

do you know the suggested characters to rate up?

[worldly pewter]

this is per 1 row of missions

[whole crypt]

not in one go but there's around that number in the new newbie things

[fleet berry]

You can check the pin, Sam has it.

[south sequoia]

Check pins

[fleet berry]

Also here: #gameplay-help message

[south sequoia]

it is the 3rd pin

[whole crypt]

newbie missions steps 1, 3, 5 and 7 are 20 cubes each

so 80 from mission and 70ish from the feature tutorial then I guess

2, 4, 6 and 8 are core data, 9 is NJ/Shinano invite

[wind hazel]

no enty?

[atomic abyss]

frontload on core is interesting

means your newbie fleet could be Penny Uni Indep

[last zenith]

o

[wind hazel]

[atomic abyss]

depends on how much core exactly

[frosty shadow]

Are 100 cubes enough to get the UR? (Might went on an accidental spending spree before the event)

[atomic abyss]

not to guarantee

400 to guarantee

[normal cedar]

i just saw the 280 asw on traffy, and some rando on reddit called her asw god
any idea based on skills if she is good for anti subs? who is the current best ship for anti sub anyways

[wind hazel]

even so you're gonna be fighting retro bp

[worldly pewter]

on average it is 180 cubes

[atomic abyss]

i saw the post, moronic take
she has no asw skills
best is eldridge retro, she has a built in hedgehog

[last zenith]

so we all new ppl now. But for cubes. anything is possible

[normal cedar]

i see, makes sense
thanks for clarifying

[atomic abyss]

as i've said many times today

[whole crypt]

the rewards needs you to clear all tasks in those steps and each step is only unlocked after at least 6 missions in the previous step are cleared

[atomic abyss]

stats alone do not paint the full picture

[whole crypt]

it's more cores in early game but you're not going to day 1 Indep or anything

[worldly pewter]

is there more elaboration about that naming ?

[atomic abyss]

wat

trafalgar

[worldly pewter]

deciding based on raw stats is not a good metric

[fleet berry]

That particular rando takes are questionable anyway.

[whole crypt]

did you also see the rando that replied to him saying she's AA not ASW

[wind hazel]

you guys actually read reddit

[plain saffron]

i thought people go to reddit only for arts

[worldly pewter]

i go there for technical issues but never for gameplay help

[whole crypt]

I don't really check art on reddit, most of the time I hole up answering stupid questions on questions thread

[fleet berry]

If you have technical issue, you should hit here directly, really. Most of our answers will either be, 'yes it has been reported/observed in the ALO Discord' or 'Report it to the official Discord.'

[worldly pewter]

yeah i always first prioritize the discord server of the game before going to reddit when i don't find the answer

[whole crypt]

I mostly reddit at work because work network blocks discord

[warped acorn]

dang so many reddit readers

[whole crypt]

but yeh I seriously don't recommend asking or checking reddit for game info, unless you know whether the person replying knows what they're saying

the problem is you have people who don't know what they're saying then you have people who also have no idea upvoting and you end up in a situation where you just get misguided

[last zenith]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[fleet berry]

What, I thought Spearfish damage is really shitty and it has no purpose at all.

[whole crypt]

confidently wrong then move the goal post, they'll never get you

[worldly pewter]

isn't the spear fish debate one of the hardest ones currently to be decided ?

[void walrus]

What is the spearfish

[whole crypt]

rainbow plane in lab

[void walrus]

That's the rocket one yeah

[whole crypt]

the one with torps and rockets

[fleet berry]

The debate was, it is an expensive equipment and might/might not perform better than the Wyverns. But it is NOT, quote:

Spearfish is actual trash. Do not ever buy it. Ever. Unless you have UR ordnance to burn or you're into PVP.

Spearfish' rockets, to give you an example, only deal SLIGHTLY more damage than a single converging torpedo against a light armored target...at+13, if they all hit. Only just barely. And if you're using converging TBs, you're always using them with a timestop/slow.

[wind hazel]

can't say it's wrong

[fleet berry]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Spearfish_(Prototype)

[worldly pewter]

most likely they might not be good at wording that is it
saying that it is trash then stating its applicable usages

[void walrus]

I could've sworn it only had 3 of each

[wind hazel]

ye it's not trash, just a luxury item

[inner delta]

the point of spearfish is for that single target hit with torpedo to kill of humanoid, not trash

[molten zinc]

it's for minmaxing basically

[void walrus]

Also, isn't it less expensive than the wyvern?

[wind hazel]

basically very hard to justify making one really

[void walrus]

Or am I wrong there

[hollow gust]

lol this is funnt asf

[fleet berry]

It's cheaper from an electronic-perspective, but it requires rainbow ordnance. Which is more limited, income-wise.

[molten zinc]

9 T3 Ord btw

[turbid marsh]

yes, even fixed the 'bug' where danmaku 1 only triggers 3 times

[forest palm]

what even is this

[whole crypt]

very crude DPS comparison

[wind hazel]

raw dps or something, questionable

[whole crypt]

take it with a grain of salt

[turbid marsh]

on paper dps*

[forest palm]

fair enough

[wind hazel]

in the same chart you can find unzen dealing the same damage across all armour too

[fleet berry]

I mean, check his replies. But anyway, I shouldn't have joked about that here, kek.

[hollow gust]

meme chart aside she has 3 sources of damage though, her burn , her barrage and her guns, not bad

[whole crypt]

he doubled down and moved goal posts, just forget about it

[hollow gust]

ofc her burn isnt gonna be on end screen damage

[whole crypt]

VG low dmg bad moment

[last zenith]

hmmmmmm

[forest palm]

so if the current BB staple is gonna be BZ + Lion who is the +1? Apple Sauce? SS?

[little tree]

Is that hornet 2

[whole crypt]

Hornet II has okay ish light damage off the top of my head, if you look at who's next up

[hollow gust]

vanny/alace both work, soyuz is perma nahkimov duty

[void walrus]

Meta hornet

[whole crypt]

nowadays probably Franklin or SGL should take that spot honestly

[little tree]

Oh a useful meta ship how did that happen

[whole crypt]

is it?

[void walrus]

No clue

[hollow gust]

also are you guys talking about the spearfish is bad dude lol

[whole crypt]

either way it's 🚮 compared to the higher bossing CVs

[whole crypt]

topic's over, pile on next time

[little tree]

Thought so

[forest palm]

Spearfish do be fast though

[little tree]

[forest palm]

I do find little reason to use Spearfish outside of mob leveling, and I've never really caught on w/e Suchi is smoking using these things on Light

I understand the why, but never really saw the benefit

[mellow cape]

What is that a list of

[warped acorn]

lion 💀

[whole crypt]

a bad DPS list

[icy cave]

Does JP finish maint earlier than global too?

[whole crypt]

we start earlier so yes

[whole crypt]

it's really just a very small bonus/niche that's not worth the cost as a general recommendation

[icy cave]

i see!

[whole crypt]

expecially when you want to reserve ordreps for so many higher priority prototype gear

[normal cedar]

what numbers are these

[normal cedar]

no but like what do the numbers represent?

[whole crypt]

light/medium/heavy damage of the ship

[last zenith]

powerful

[normal cedar]

damage as in? damage taken by enemy per hit? kinda confusing

[whole crypt]

damage they do

[hollow gust]

im sorry nntktt i shouldnt have posted this

[wind hazel]

[atomic abyss]

Ignore the chart

[wind hazel]

someone posted hours ago anyway

[whole crypt]

it's just a very bad damage comparison of those ships against those armour types

[atomic abyss]

It's extremely misleading

[normal cedar]

ohh ok I see

[hollow gust]

if this was accuratte, CVs would be all purple, atlas

[whole crypt]

also grey just ignore the feedback guy he's just upset Lion isn't the historically accurate Lion he wanted

[hollow gust]

[warped acorn]

'historically accurate' 💀

[worldly pewter]

start earlier by 2h and the duration is 2h less so overall the servers are up before 4h in the 90% of the time

[hollow gust]

honestly somewhere in my heart i knew there would be compaints about a busted bb

[whole crypt]

HMS cannot eat good something must be wrong

[warped acorn]

surely a must to happen

[little tree]

Eta 1 hour maintenance or 2 i can't remember r

[atomic abyss]

1h 40min

[whole crypt]

well JP also has awkward maint time in the sense if we don't end "earlier" we lose some of the evening turnover timings

[little tree]

Thanks 😊

[hollow gust]

also she has high eva too? never realized

[whole crypt]

nevermind how much of the actual maintenance time is actual maintenance work

[whole crypt]

highest for UR BBs, probably all BBs actually, even before her EVA buff

[hollow gust]

favortism is real, shes got everything

[normal cedar]

is there mebot ehp chart for back;ine as well?

[whole crypt]

but she's flimsy because low HP apparently, let's ignore all the skill dmgred and the evasion
my historically accurate Lion must have thick armour and thus tonnes of HP

[opaque galleon]

Wait is the on fire barrage from Lion 1 shot or 9 shots?

[fleet berry]

*and high AA.

[little tree]

How good is lion predicted to be

~~I never hear of good hms before ~~

[whole crypt]

predicted to be very bad because devs must screw HMS

[hollow gust]

when has a HMS UR not been busted

Implacable and Vanguard are still meta despite years of attempted powercreep

[normal cedar]

warspite

[fleet berry]

Even Plymouth. IIRC even for ST bossing, Bayard can already match her bulk and her damage and with much cheaper gun. But, Bayard can't buff BB damage *and * deal high damage.

[little tree]

[whole crypt]

people just want to choose to be angry over shit that's not to their ideal even if said thing is actually good

[viscid swift]

Ahem, Vanguard is inherently underpowered and lacks the necessary attributes to make meaningful battle impact/s

[little tree]

Vanguard is weak

[normal cedar]

oh btw why doesnt the datamine have the build timers yet?

[viscid swift]

Those can't be datamined

[hollow gust]

i mean even nutty changed his mind, some people are just delululu

[worldly pewter]

is this a legit take or a meme ?

[little tree]

Eveytome I use vanguard for boss i wish I had a bettee bb to choose from

[whole crypt]

. /s

[viscid swift]

Meme, also /s means sarcasm

[forest palm]

Warspite was shit from the gate, and only ever received band-aid fixes

[honest sequoia]

[little tree]

~~ warspite catching strays for a ship that was sunk on launch ~~

[forest palm]

it also doesn't help that her retro didn't even get that much time on Global before it went to shit

[whole crypt]

everytime you use VG just take 10% off everyone else's damage and voila

[worldly pewter]

i thought /s meant
singular or plural

[viscid swift]

Yeah she was rather undertuned from launch

Compared to San Diego

And well look at where they are now

[forest palm]

funny enough the first ship to creep Warkai was an HMS ship

[whole crypt]

people who keep saying VG is undertuned completely ignore the margin she adds by buffs

[atomic abyss]

Also

Apparently they reverted the cap on Lion's barrage?

[forest palm]

[normal cedar]

so infinite 15s barrage?!?

[atomic abyss]

That's what it seems to be in CN

[fleet berry]

And it takes 2.5ys+ with two damage BBs before she is matched.

[atomic abyss]

Well that is fairly exaggerated

[opaque galleon]

Since BZ2, Alsace and Lion are all anti light biased, how does their fleet compete with carriers?

[atomic abyss]

It is more of this

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't compete with a bis carrier team for anti light at all

[whole crypt]

Implacable also remains best freeze after her rerun

[forest palm]

it really isn't though, especially for global where the time frames where she would have any amount of relevance were starkly reduced

[atomic abyss]

I mean

Warkai when she came out was still the second best BB in the game in terms of dmg

[south sequoia]

at the moment

here is the thing

hvar is cracked

nakhimov numbers are cracked

[whole crypt]

the next relevant light thing is Kawakaze META, they could very well add something that's basically a Lion check

[hollow gust]

unless lion starts pulling out double the damage of the next best UR BB,Yorktown reigns supreme gonna get checked lol

[whole crypt]

but you'll likely be able to nuke out with Kear/YorktownII or Soy/Nak

[south sequoia]

did we have any alsace checks last year

[atomic abyss]

Michita maybe?

[south sequoia]

the last time we got a clear cut ship check was algerie meta

[south sequoia]

ah right

[forest palm]

Yucky CM was a Soyuz check

[whole crypt]

the last time we got a clear ship check was Yukikaze CM

[viscid swift]

Not strictly

[little tree]

What do you guys mean by ship check

[normal cedar]

why is Lion anti-light? Her skills will apply same for Heavy and Light both, so if you run a AP gun on her, she can act equally as anti-heavy?

[atomic abyss]

Barrage mods

[viscid swift]

Algerie meta was basically a zwei check though

[hollow gust]

keary yorktown lion elridge

[atomic abyss]

Iirc lion's barrage mods are light biased

[normal cedar]

ohh I see, thanks
I saw it now in the datamine

[whole crypt]

when the fight mechanics/gimmicks clearly favour the presence of one ship

[south sequoia]

If you dont have x ship you'll struggle vs that boss
its never impossible to still be able to beat the boss without them regardless, but the difference is night and day

[little tree]

Oo I swe thank you

[forest palm]

and boy did people struggle with Yucky CM

[south sequoia]

though as the UR roster grew we've had less of that to be honest

[hollow gust]

Lion is just gonna be anti-lights CV's side btch even if we get a lion geared meta fight

[turbid marsh]

she beats rumey?

[sterile grove]

Is the new UR BB gun worth +13?

[south sequoia]

trust, nakhimov but british

[whole crypt]

to be fair the gear reqs are much lower, so for newer players it works out I guess

[worthy pike]

when did the maintenance start

[atomic abyss]

Server reset

[south sequoia]

6 hours ago

[turbid marsh]

yes, on paper damage best in light

[opaque galleon]

But if you have all the HVARs and LA-9s you need, do you actually care about UR BBs that don’t buff CVs?

[worthy pike]

alright

[turbid marsh]

also on the faster side, so rely on reload tech less XD

[hollow gust]

shes not

[atomic abyss]

Goose they're talking about lion gun

[hollow gust]

im blind

[whole crypt]

for most part they're just xflt barrage offerings at this point once you settle with carriers

[south sequoia]

Its a hard world for bbs at this point

well not very hard

[little tree]

Is the new ur bb gun good for campaign or opsi bossing only

[south sequoia]

they are still ur after all

[hollow gust]

soyuz best UR BB only cause nahkimov needs her

[south sequoia]

but cvs just wreck too hard the only way to stop cvs from steamrolling everything by the devs is if they pulled out a boss that goes against CVs

[wind hazel]

Build timer, before it gets asked and spammed

[whole crypt]

BBs are still good enough for most things, fully decked CV fleets just make them even more trivial

[south sequoia]

exactly

[civic oak]

Well, one upside of my surgery getting rescheduled is that I get to play as soon as the server is up.

[south sequoia]

oh btw predl up?

[civic oak]

That's, what, 11:00 EDT?

[wind hazel]

933mb predl up

[viscid swift]

Yes

[civic oak]

Is that yes for me, Cleo, or both?

[south sequoia]

we got our answers

just check the react

[civic oak]

I see it now, lol

Helpful Nimi is helpful.

[worldly pewter]

currently i wouldn't +13 BB guns unless needed for a specific task

[south sequoia]

Eh, unless persons a newer player the guns worth the gold plates

theres nothing much else you'd want to spend your plates on for bbs considering they rarely get gun upgrades

[atomic abyss]

Champy...

[south sequoia]

ye

[quick grotto]

Dumb question, but how do you get said new gun?

[atomic abyss]

Event shop for 10k event currency

[south sequoia]

gold guns are "cheap" to upgrade in terms of plates

I'd put them in front for newer players

[atomic abyss]

It's worth +13 but it's not priority for it

[sterile grove]

I am newer, this will be my first UR event. I have +13 one champy and didn't really want to +13 my other ones

[whole crypt]

holy shit I love the newnewbie missions

I'm back to 15k oil

[atomic abyss]

1 +13 lion gun
Is worth 3 +13 champy/flandre guns

[whole crypt]

(I was down to 4k before maint)

[forest palm]

I topped off before maint

just buy oil it's the American way

[south sequoia]

buying oil

[novel solstice]

Americans don't buy oil, we take it from other countries by invading them.

[wind hazel]

yeah what a waste. i'd rather buy quick finisher...

[south sequoia]

I'd rather dig myself down back to 2-1 then even thinking of that

[hushed sorrel]

i heard them guessing nerfs in al-general. is that a thing that could happen? and how big could the impact be

[sterile grove]

true but they're not interchangeable right one's for light the others medium

[south sequoia]

we've never had nerfs before

[void walrus]

I don't think it's ever happened or will happen

[south sequoia]

Ill delete that for you

[hushed sorrel]

thats good

[forest palm]

no, they can't nerf a released product that would technically be illegal

[viscid swift]

Well we have

[south sequoia]

yeah but its like

way way back in the past

[whole crypt]

they actually can it's a matter of technicalities

[viscid swift]

Not particularly often though

[wind hazel]

halford got nerfed

[mellow cape]

Why would they nerf lion tho, power creep will probably make that nerf pointless in the future

[south sequoia]

Norcal was also nerfed

[whole crypt]

but generally they don't want to set a precedence of nerfing existing shit

[wind hazel]

some augment also nerf the ship

[south sequoia]

what

wait

who

[wind hazel]

i forgo

[storm olive]

Wasnt it Minneapolis aug

[atomic abyss]

Minneapolis

[south sequoia]

[forest palm]

Minne and that one random ass sub

[south sequoia]

How does minne aug nerf her?

[wind hazel]

i knew gph had my back

[atomic abyss]

Well

I think nerf her is incorrect

[viscid swift]

Not really a nerf

[atomic abyss]

It's more of

[worldly pewter]

it depends on what u want to do in the end
usually u will find more use for the any heavy guns and are cheaper to upgrade mostly for the harbiter and c6 abyssals
+13 anti light guns is one of the very lowest priorities
i personally would prioritize vanguards before

[atomic abyss]

A regular augment is better

[viscid swift]

Just a worthless side grade

[south sequoia]

oh its that bad.

[plain saffron]

whose barrage got patched?

[south sequoia]

Lion iirc

[gusty olive]

The thought of nerfing Lion is disgusting

[atomic abyss]

Lion in CN has the infinite barrages back

Doesn't appear to be the case in JP

[plain saffron]

changes from shit ton of bullets to 1 big one

huh wtf, so changed then reverted?

[atomic abyss]

Oh that
The bullet size thing

I mean

[hushed sorrel]

yeah better not start to explain who the biggest bullet got 😂

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, I remember that being more of a sidegrade

[atomic abyss]

It's not really nerfing/buffing if they changed her kit before she was released now is it

It's not like they advertised the numbers in her kit

All we knew from the stream was that she had some stacking mechanic

[plain saffron]

which one is better

[south sequoia]

The last time we've ever had a live server buff was mogador right

[fallow sedge]

Is the new lion good? Like where does she belong

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[plain saffron]

it's a nerf because it lags the game

[atomic abyss]

Probably top few UR BB
Anything further we can't comment

[fallow sedge]

She in the lower tier ur bb?

[atomic abyss]

Uh

[forest palm]

she has potential to be a Staple in BB Fleets

[atomic abyss]

Top few isn't lower tier

[fallow sedge]

Oh sorry ig I'm blind

[paper walrus]

I know its still early but do we have any idea what her role is going to be?

[wind hazel]

yes, her role is D A M A G E

[storm olive]

Vanguard but with more damage

[atomic abyss]

Dmg at the very least

[paper walrus]

I dont know what vanguard does

[atomic abyss]

Massive buff and debuff support

[gusty olive]

Faction fleeting hms is gonna be fun

[atomic abyss]

She sacrifices her own dmg output basically

Lion doesn't have that caveat

Though I don't think she's as good a support

...with that said, vanguard shines more if the other BBs are stronger so

[vocal sandal]

is it worth pulling in the new banner, or is it better to save the cubes for any other rerun banners that are coming soon

[atomic abyss]

New UR so absolutely worth

[paper walrus]

[atomic abyss]

There's a good chance she's better than Bis2 even so

[vocal sandal]

i mean is it just cuz shes new, or is it cuz shes good

[atomic abyss]

Both

She's at the very least top few UR BB

[vocal sandal]

alright thanks

[tame orchid]

How good is lions gun compared to NJs

[atomic abyss]

Similar if not slightly better

[plain saffron]

is it a 6 or 8?

[fair lance]

Hours for maintenance? 8.

[plain saffron]

thanks

[tame orchid]

Is Lion worth investing bulins into, currently have vanguard alsace and FDG as max UR bbs and waiting to get 3 copies of NJ from exchange and have unmaxed ulrich

[paper walrus]

What is the nj gun?

[rigid onyx]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/50_Mk_7)

[ivory pawn]

UR 406 mk7 from Gear Lab.

[paper walrus]

Oh interesting

[atomic abyss]

Would need to see all the other URs and their limit breaks to give a definitive answer

[paper walrus]

Where do you learn all these names from? I look up samhearts guide but this one wasnt included

[viscid swift]

it's mostly based on what ships used them irl

the Mk7 was used by the Iowa class BBs irl and NJ is the only one in game currently

[paper walrus]

Do you just ask each other to find out

[stark quiver]

I googled it and came to that conclusion

[viscid swift]

or do a bit of reading on naval history

[paper walrus]

🙏

[tender lotus]

New ur gun good?

[viscid swift]

it's an Mk7 upgrade

[tender lotus]

Mk7?

[tender lotus]

Oh this huh

[rigid onyx]

its a timing sidegrade/slight upgrade

[tender lotus]

Mistook Georgia gun as NJ gun

[viscid swift]

how is a sidegrade at all?

you're not using the thing against medium/heavy armor

[tender lotus]

I got info that gun has better modifier against light armor

Is that true?

[viscid swift]

Yeah

Datamine is also in the pins

[rigid onyx]

unless im missing something it has basically the same damage just different timings

[little tree]

Does that mean its a good campgin gun ?

[atomic abyss]

will not be better than the 457 for campaign

it's not a 17s gun, but a 19s gun
AP is also preferred in late game campaign
it is good though yes

[viscid swift]

it's better damage, not by much but it does and better accuracy thanks to higher shell speed

and larger splash

[rigid onyx]

is a gun thats has slightly better damage but not by much not a timing difference? It also has a bit more splash

my original message was timing sidegrade/slight upgrade i don't see how that's incorrect at all

[tender lotus]

definitely not a sidegrade

[viscid swift]

moreso the "timing sidegrade" part

[worldly pewter]

depends on what a sidegrade means

[rigid onyx]

the damage is within a percentage of the other, not including more splash

[viscid swift]

1 sec faster reload ain't much in the greandscheme of things but given how BBs struggle to get off salvos with the Mk7

[tender lotus]

Yeah maybe timing sidegrade would be the fit one

[pine inlet]

how about slightgrade

[hybrid pelican]

So how is Lion lookign? Meh?

[plain saffron]

good

[atomic abyss]

top few UR BBs

[plain saffron]

very even

[hybrid pelican]

Seems to be replacing someone or is tbd?

[atomic abyss]

tbd

[normal cedar]

do volga/aquila fighter see much use outside of world 14/15?

[wicked obsidian]

did the maintenance get extended ?

[plain saffron]

nope

[atomic abyss]

no

aquila sees use in her other form ofc

[wicked obsidian]

but mine is showing under Maintenance,,, isnt it supposed to be over.

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks, got it

[hollow gust]

its 8 hour main,we still got 30 min

[hybrid pelican]

30 mins until maint ends

[tender lotus]

Precisely it is about 26mins from now

[paper walrus]

Then a other 3 hours till the download is over

[wicked obsidian]

mine is 1 hour late i guesss

[wicked obsidian]

but i just downloaded 1 GB...

in this update

[tender lotus]

Mine almost 1GB
It's just 933MB

[foggy phoenix]

Any idea how long maintenance will last?

[fair lance]

20 more mins I think

[hybrid pelican]

20 mins until maint ends

[atomic abyss]

20 more mins if no extension

[tender lotus]

in 1/4 hour if no extension

[faint cloud]

lol seemed manjuu nerfed lion's barrage 1 but then fixed it so it become normal now

[tender lotus]

Is that from JP?

[atomic abyss]

CN

[cobalt rapids]

this is why we dont doompost before release

[hollow gust]

but but but she has SR levels of HP

[viscid swift]

and terrible AA

[pine inlet]

and no preload

[atomic lagoon]

Muh Iowa

[calm rose]

Muh history

[hollow gust]

So sadge , she only gets the extra slot

[little tree]

~~ where is my preload ur cv~~

[whole crypt]

game literally unplayable

[pine inlet]

preload UR HMS CV would be pretty damn lit

but lmao ain't happening

[little tree]

Preload eu cv

Mabey Na anniversary gets a UR CV this year

[tender lotus]

UR Enty would be amazing tbh

[hushed sorrel]

maybe next year or the one after?

[little tree]

Retro enty my beloved

[hushed sorrel]

only a few more min left

[atomic abyss]

coping can be done in #al-general

[gray sphinx]

That would go insane ngl

[little tree]

Is enty still competitive in dmg with ur cv's

[wind hazel]

below

[little tree]

I guess it's the equivalent of ranger if your lucky dmg is good

[wind hazel]

ranger would be strongest if your luck is good

[stark quiver]

ranger has the strongest damage cieling in game iirc, just get lucky

[upbeat wagon]

What was her skill again

[wind hazel]

/wiki ranger

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ranger
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ranger/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ranger/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/The_Solomon_Ranger
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/The_Solomon_Ranger

May 20, 2025, 3:00 PM

[weary gust]

Every ship is theoretically invincible if they just evade all hits. That's the same logic of Ranger being strongest.

[stone sluice]

Game is up

[hushed sorrel]

mod

[stark quiver]

damn right after maint is crazy

[inner delta]

/ban 1374399180935790692

[odd root]

e9g7ejw#0 got banned.

[stark quiver]

thx bread

[icy cave]

Speedy

[weary gust]

I look away for 1 second and some bot gets banned.

[sage sluice]

1 second is all it takes

[zenith heron]

double banned by both bread and End...

[fair lance]

Can I not use wishing well yet?

[weary gust]

Omg the new beginner mission handbook thing has added 14513512 new menus to the game.

I don't see that going well.

[wind hazel]

click on it, bottom left

[fair lance]

Oh lol

[frosty shadow]

When I enter the game the screen doesnt change to horizontal, any solution?

[hushed sorrel]

thats a new place xD

[wind hazel]

it's not

[hushed sorrel]

wasnt it always in the pulls`? maybe i am just remembering wrong

[wind hazel]

you have to activate it first, then it will show up

[acoustic monolith]

Hey is the game playable?

[atomic abyss]

#trophy-room

[jaunty vault]

Chat is game up

[atomic abyss]

#game-news yes

[mellow cape]

What gun on lion?

[sharp comet]

can u disable this extra screen?

[weary gust]

Don't think so.

[mellow cape]

If I'm leveling her up in the event

[weary gust]

Purple mk406

[atomic abyss]

406mk6 or twin 410

[weary gust]

Or any better BB gun you have extra laying around.

[viral flicker]

How to get more cubes

[atomic abyss]

do the new beginner missions

[wind hazel]

can anyone confirm renting lion's skin is bugged?

[viral flicker]

Where

[zenith heron]

play or credit card, also that mentioned as well...

[hollow gust]

my lion booba works

[wind hazel]

This is outrageous, this is unfair

[mellow cape]

No skin is working for me mori :0

[sharp comet]

THE ULTIMATE GAMBA

[zinc flower]

Anyone know the timer on lion?

[atomic abyss]

6:20

[acoustic quiver]

Im new to UR Banners after i pull Lion should i even pull the event banner anymore?

[sage sluice]

6:20

[hollow gust]

also she summons lions? tf

[weary gust]

Why do people always care about timers know knowing them is literally useless.

[atomic abyss]

#event-faq is also open now

[viral flicker]

Where is it

[atomic abyss]

no

[winter quartz]

wtf is this handbook? Where are my newbie missions, I was at 32/34

[stark quiver]

should have read #event-faq

[hollow gust]

brother did not read at all

[weary gust]

We've been telling people for a month to hurry and finish the newbie missions

[atomic abyss]

newbie missions resetted

[stone sluice]

Is the villa reconstruction worth?