gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

as in have you finished the XP requirements

[steep sleet]

I see one other ship had a development option,but okey.

[whole crypt]

the tasks just unlock with time but if you don't have the XP you can't finish the ship

[forest palm]

5 cubes is like 2 days of dailies

[glossy ruin]

[wind hazel]

it also might be the cubes needed to pity a UR

[whole crypt]

if XP is done I lean towards just finishing it

[steep sleet]

What rarity is the saint Louis?

[whole crypt]

PR

[glossy ruin]

Pr

[whole crypt]

research equivalent of (S)SR

[forest palm]

just say SSR la they are no different

[whole crypt]

the rarity isn't relevant anyway

[steep sleet]

I don't know if the xp thingis are done or not ,I just see it unlocking each stage of development day by day ,now after doing the 20k coin expenditure I am at last stage xD

What's the full meaning of PR?

[wind hazel]

priority

[viscid swift]

Priority Rarity

[woven star]

I can say more. You can fully develop ship and leave there for saving dock space. I'm doing ships in same way. Having one Sr and UR for coin and left other in lab. Exp lab task using for rising tech ships. But it's only when in lab left ships that you don't need or with bad performance

[whole crypt]

chances are you're not done then
each ship needs you to grind 1mil+2mil XP with some ships
the tasks just unlock every day until 6th day but the XP needs to be fulfilled before the ship is unlocked

[viscid swift]

have you submitted them do you see a check mark next to the mission

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

you need to complete all of the missions before you can unlock a PR ship

[whole crypt]

I'm fairly sure someone who just saw his day 6 task unlock for his first PR ship hasn't finished 3M XP

in which case just save the cubes and grind the XP first

[worldly pewter]

so the question now is where are u in the campaign ?

[wind hazel]

[plain saffron]

just screenshot the screen

[steep sleet]

Here u go

I do not understand the most of the terms so a pic is better

[weary gust]

21% is not 100%.

[viscid swift]

yeah you're not even close

[woven star]

When everything done you ll see full green

[steep sleet]

I see ,I had no clues ,lmao

[viscid swift]

you have to finish all of those missions before you unlock her

[woven star]

4th task will be active / opened after 1th done

[steep sleet]

Idk what are the eagle union vanguard ships

[whole crypt]

american front line ships

[viscid swift]

eagle union is the faction, vanguards are the ships that go in the front fow of your fleet

[whole crypt]

eagle union = USS
vanguard = front ships

[wind hazel]

sort them using your dock filter, easiest

[plain saffron]

go to dock and select Eagle Union + Vanguard and you get the answer

[woven star]

SanD, Laffy etc

[whole crypt]

dock filter works too

[steep sleet]

I have
Portland laffey Helena on front

[whole crypt]

yes but it takes 1 million XP for the first task

[exotic wren]

Just so I'm sure, Kaza and Hamman 2's ARA and Flagship cover doesn't stack right?

[steep sleet]

How long does it takes to gather 1m xp?

[viscid swift]

Kazagumo doesn't have flagship cover but yes, their ARA buff doesn't stack

[whole crypt]

half a day in late game
over a week in early game

[exotic wren]

Is it still worth it to run them at one fleet or nah?

[viscid swift]

I can't think of a scenario where I would

[exotic wren]

Since running Sirius instead of Hamman 2 feels scuffed with her without rudder

[woven star]

Depends on ship lvl. How many exp they get

[whole crypt]

it was never worth running more than 1 ARA together

[viscid swift]

why can't you run Sirius with a rudder....

[exotic wren]

Only have 4 kek

[whole crypt]

and where are they

[steep sleet]

75-85 each ships

[worldly pewter]

4 is more than enough

[exotic wren]

Yat sen, Agir, Ply, Helena

[whole crypt]

you can hot swap gear in OS

[viscid swift]

are Agir and Plymouth even in usable states then

[exotic wren]

Uh

[worldly pewter]

yeah u only need 3 at most

[exotic wren]

Agir is d30, ply is 25

[whole crypt]

even assuming they're viable in proper fleets you can just swap the rudder off them to Sirius then back on after CV fleet is done

[wind hazel]

if opsi just swap gear. if not opsi just let sirius use blue camo lol. or let her die

[exotic wren]

Oh right blue camo exists fuck

[worldly pewter]

for leveling i think any gear can work

[whole crypt]

XP in early stages is very low and oil efficiency is very poor, just don't worry about it for now and go for progression

[woven star]

This will be long. I assume several days.

[hollow gust]

A day at most

[woven star]

Anyway main point get to chapter 9 or higher for exp farm

[worldly pewter]

where are u in the campaign ?

[wind hazel]

no main point is to not use the 5 cubes

[whole crypt]

not if you're grinding before ch9

[woven star]

Yeah, just do it

[whole crypt]

just don't spend the cubes wtf

[warped acorn]

average day in gameplay help

[worldly pewter]

a side point is to forget about the shipyard altogether

[warped acorn]

did someone beat w15 without any shipyard ships

[whole crypt]

why not

[wind hazel]

yes i beat it with all UR

[viscid swift]

not that difficult

[glossy ruin]

So close yet so far

[whole crypt]

the only research option great for 15 off the top of my head is Shimanto

[viscid swift]

seeing as the only one we really used was Shimanto

[warped acorn]

shimanto 🤯

[woven star]

Yeah main goal of AL to find maximum number of cubes that you can hold. So never use cubes. joking

[worldly pewter]

i think i used haku in the bossing fleet but it wasn't necessary
simanto is kinda core though

[quick grotto]

What is the best way to farm the special items in Operation Siren?

[whole crypt]

do everything

[weary gust]

You're barely at the start line with only 50 prints. Even when you do build her she'll be useless for 2 months minimum.

[warped acorn]

shimanto core cuz of 2 mg mount?

[viscid swift]

no

[warped acorn]

or torp

[worldly pewter]

defensive abilities and aa

[viscid swift]

because she has good AA and utility on top of decent damage and not being made out of paper

[warped acorn]

oh

[viscid swift]

and the ability to extinguish burns which is nice

[warped acorn]

paper ships

[glossy ruin]

I know i just want her

[whole crypt]

but shimanto literally uses paper figures

[worldly pewter]

in this chat u get help of anything u post
unlike in general

[novel solstice]

Basically, spend a lot of time there.
Clear every symbol on your map. Buy all the loggers in the shop and voucher shop, clear those too. Take the daily quests and do those. Buy all the AP boxes in the shops (and at scamcat when she appears) so you can keep doing stuff. Do normal mode arbiter.
When the map is actually entirely empty, it's time to grind. I prefer C5 nodes, though there are some people who will argue for C3. Put it on strategic search, set it to stop on scamcat, unless it's the end of the month at which point you just let it run all night and skip scamcat.
And make sure you get all the useful items from the shops every month.

[glossy ruin]

Aight mb

[hushed sorrel]

not anything this chat here is for azur lane gameplay

[glossy ruin]

I'm still debating on who should i Mlb first

[eternal moth]

Raff probably

Next time, though, only LB ships you can MLB right away

[viscid swift]

and we have 2 new URs dropping in 4 days

[steep sleet]

I have no idea what is campaign,sorry.What is it?

[hollow gust]

and both are prob upgrades lmao

[whole crypt]

the "main story"

[glossy ruin]

Main story?

[whole crypt]

chapters 1 to however many

[hushed sorrel]

max 15 at the moment

[forest palm]

they are increasing UR Bulin income, so that should be interesting to see what that means

[steep sleet]

On I have cleared chapter 5 ,need to reach lvl 40 on open chapter 6

[glossy ruin]

Nc

[worldly pewter]

for now ignore the shipyard mechanic and focus more on the early stage fleet building

[hushed sorrel]

just grind for kaga and Akagi you will have something to do and will naturally level :D well some say the two sr arent that good but you know ... nice ears

[glossy ruin]

On ch 14 which ships should i prioritize to use?

[worldly pewter]

unicorn and 2 BBs at least

in 14-3 and 4 u want to use asw ships in the mob vanguard

[glossy ruin]

Aight

[viscid swift]

since when lamo

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[glossy ruin]

I think I'm good

[atomic abyss]

Uh no

[viscid swift]

no you most definitely are not

[forest palm]

2 terrible subs...

[viscid swift]

in fact you're absolutely fucked

[glossy ruin]

[atomic abyss]

Not enough levels is just one of the issues

[viscid swift]

yeah, bare minimum should be all ships at 120 at this point

[worldly pewter]

the best u can do with that is 14-1

[glossy ruin]

I just cleared ch13 with 3 avi is something

[viscid swift]

that's not even getting onto the many many holes in those comps

[late flame]

bro is in for a shock if he thinks that can clear w14 lol

[atomic abyss]

W14 is a huge jump from w13

[glossy ruin]

Damn

[atomic abyss]

Firstly are the URs there max limit broken

[glossy ruin]

Yes

[worldly pewter]

not sima

[glossy ruin]

Except shima

And hinden

[viscid swift]

anyway, you can start by giving the Chapter 14 guide a read

[glossy ruin]

Ye

Aight i got humiliated so bad

[atomic abyss]

Well it's basically the 2nd hardest content in the game

[abstract ore]

Should i max limitbreak Z52 or laffey 2 first

[wind hazel]

depends on what you wanna focus on

but usually 52

[viscid swift]

wait at this point, we have 2 new URs dropping in 4 days

[hushed sorrel]

its so funny how often you repeat yourself but we dont know what stats these have. or do you?

i think i saw you writing this a few times

[viscid swift]

we don't, but can you definitively say they won't be better?
you can't

[inner delta]

waiting is a correct way

[viscid swift]

so why risk it, just wait a few days and see how they turn out

[hushed sorrel]

might be the correct way

[late flame]

no harm in waiting, no?

[hushed sorrel]

except for some who already use a not max lb ur ... i think those should max break that ones first

[hollow gust]

That's on you for leveling a Ur without being able to max limit break?

[glossy ruin]

I catch strays

[viscid swift]

and tell me, what content is so pressing they need to MLB a UR to beat it asap

[hushed sorrel]

its just not logical in my eyes why partly limit break another ur?

[hollow gust]

New URs are better 95% of the time , especially when we know there will be Urs , it's solely on you for leveling older ones

[viscid swift]

did I say to partially limit break another UR

I'm saying wait to see what the new URs are like before making a decision on where to commit your UR Bullins

because for all we know, it may very well be worth abandoning work on an already partially limit broken ship to work on the latest

we just don't know for certain, so it's better to bide your time and wait and see before making a decision especially when the event is literally dropping in 4 days

[terse roost]

I thought it was on Tuesday

[viscid swift]

yes thank you, so even sooner

[hushed sorrel]

waiting for a few days isnt bad its just that i wouldnt recommend that to everyone. that was all i said and i still believe that.
a single new ship or two will not change everyones fleet even if they are good

[forest palm]

new event is 1x BB, 2x DD, 1x CL, right?

[viscid swift]

no

[forest palm]

oh, right Glorious Meta

[hushed sorrel]

"worth abandoning work" atleast i would never agree to that

[viscid swift]

2 x CL, and 1 x CVL

[forest palm]

2 CL?

[viscid swift]

and pray tell for what reason would you reccomend someone not wait

[viscid swift]

Cleopatra and Trinidad

[late flame]

speedrun helpbanned any%

[forest palm]

oh..

[cobalt rapids]

because of the sunken cost fallacy

[hushed sorrel]

as i said if there are already using other ur and those are not limit broken like in the example from "CJ"

[viscid swift]

so stop using them then

or if they're working fine as is then they can remain that way for a bit longer

[hollow gust]

A very good UR will definitely change someone's fleet. Raffelo will carry shit comps

[viscid swift]

like, I truly don't understand in what scenario you think that you would need to make a decision now to limit break now

there's no limited content going on right now that would even remotely call for such a decision to be made

[hushed sorrel]

that sound a bit weird but i belief that.

the new ur are also not running away

[sweet delta]

If you would look at eL's dock you would see that they have dozens of URs already. What difference is z52 or lafffi going to make in the next 2 days

[viscid swift]

the point is that UR Bullins are time gated so it would be preferably to get the most value out of them when you do use them

[hushed sorrel]

where would you look at someones dock?

[wind hazel]

he went into his account

[viscid swift]

suchi probably back searched through this channel and threads

[hushed sorrel]

good, i will not say more. it was never a problem of mine just wanted to share a opinion that the rec. may not be good for 100% of playerbase

[viscid swift]

and I'm telling you your opinion is objectively wrong

no matter how you slice it

[hushed sorrel]

you are wrong in this part. objectively we dont have enough information to rate the ships. means if they are shit its like wasting few days waiting time. a opinion cannot be wrong

[cobalt rapids]

thats why the advice is to wait 2 days and make an informed decision
its not to mlb the new ships

[viscid swift]

so you're saying people should just limit break whatever partially lb URs they do have now on the basis that the new URs might be worse?

you do realize how flimsy that logic is right

[late flame]

gotta love bro doubling down on misguided opinion

[hushed sorrel]

i just claimed that your claim that my opinion is objectively wrong is wrong

that was my last comment

[atomic abyss]

[cobalt rapids]

i dont get what are u wasting in these 2 days
what is limited to 2 days that u need a mlb ur ship for ?

[viscid swift]

also, again, I don't even get why you think right now under any circumstances Raffello, Z52, Laffey 2 or whoever needs to be MLB right now

[wind hazel]

i claim that your claim about cheeky's claim is objectively wrong

[viscid swift]

what are you gonna gain if they're MLB a few days earlier

[cobalt rapids]

ig z23 and elbing skins are limited to 2d

[viscid swift]

lol

[atomic abyss]

Ok in any case

From what I back read

I don't think Rino's opinion is inherently wrong
But context always matters, and it's a case of "itdependicitis"

In this case

I feel it's just safer to just wait out the 3 days

And see if there maybe a better option

[pseudo hearth]

At least until we know the kits

[atomic abyss]

You lose nothing from waiting

[hollow gust]

Lion is gonna be better then permanent URs, ez prediction

[cobalt rapids]

z52 and laffey 2 arent permanent URs

[late flame]

also its better to have resources on hand, then to spend them and regret later

[hushed sorrel]

how many days are it exactly? i heard 2,3 and 4 as options

[blazing maple]

question.
is there a good fleet compo (mobs and boss focused) for Chapter 13 hard mode (Auto)

[viscid swift]

3 days, the event drops on Tuesday

[atomic abyss]

The number of days isn't even the concern here

[forest palm]

the thing is Raph can counter this argument...

[atomic abyss]

The point is, wait

[blazing maple]

with purely UR ships

[viscid swift]

approximately 72 hours

[blazing maple]

except a few papers is fully maxed

[viscid swift]

even less than that until we get the datamine

[whole crypt]

is there some reason you want it to be purely UR
in any case clearing ch13H auto isn't hard

[viscid swift]

no given that Unicorn is basically an auto slot

for all mob fleets

[hollow gust]

The only ship that's better then raff is vanguard , and that's under specific circumstances

[whole crypt]

even if you don't use Unicorn there's no UR healer to replace

[forest palm]

I'd still use NJ over Raph

[blazing maple]

correction

mostly UR since I'm currently doing Hard mode CH 13 manually rn

[hushed sorrel]

doesnt auto hard only got the boss? what am i missing?

[blazing maple]

sorry

[forest palm]

also Ulrich isn't that high a bar to beat out, only ship that's really worse than Raph is FdG

[viscid swift]

I mean are you dead set on clearing W13 H with full UR fleets

because a fleet without that restriction would clear on auto probably easier

[whole crypt]

you might want to start a thread with dock so we have more detail of what you can use
we assume everything is auto by default

[blazing maple]

the stars

[cobalt rapids]

well auto could mean auto-search or just auto battle

[blazing maple]

auto battle

[whole crypt]

autosearch hard mode is irrelevant because it's only got boss node

[viscid swift]

you're just making things more difficult for yourself then limiting yourself to only URs

[blazing maple]

the stars.

[whole crypt]

you can't autosearch hardmode for the mob node star

you can auto battle but you can't autosearch, because you can't turn on clearing mode

[hushed sorrel]

if you already cleared it and activate the auto clear that only the boss is on the map that counts as "killing all enemies" or which star is missing?

[whole crypt]

but anyway, do you just want to use full UR because you think it's better or do you just want to actually clear it

[blazing maple]

I'm not that deadset

because I was typing during manually doing CH 13 as in
I paused it.

[whole crypt]

we never assume manual battles for the record

[blazing maple]

kill all enemies

[viscid swift]

well tip number one then is don't use only URs

espeically for the mob fleet

[blazing maple]

that I am actually doing it rn
Perseus and Unicorn is the only one that isn't a UR in the team compo

[cobalt rapids]

kill all enemies in hard mode is as simple as turning on clearing mode and killing the boss
the 2nd star u have to do it manually with clearing mode off

[whole crypt]

you don't need Unicorn with Perseus, Perseus might actually be why you're failing

[blazing maple]

why? can you elaborate?

[viscid swift]

because Perseus is basically dead weight

[late flame]

ditch percy if unicorn is there

[viscid swift]

her Preloads are probably doing nothing because Unicorn's clears the first wave so Perseus' hit the water

and her sustained DPS and healing is basically non existent

[blazing maple]

I haven't cleared it

alright, I'll ditch Perseus

[whole crypt]

Perseus has 2 preloads but a very weak loadout plus long load times, for most of the fight she does nothing
Unicorn should give you enough heals and replace Perseus with something that actually does damage

[atomic abyss]

To put it simply
Because Unicorn and Perseus both airstrike at the start of battle, one of them kills the enemies, the other hits open water

While unicorn still have airstrikes after that, Perseus doesn't

[forest palm]

it's simpler to say that Percy is crippled for 40 sec and that in itself is a massive disadvantage

[viscid swift]

and in W13, you do need to clear the mobs quickly or you just get more planes spammed at you
which in turn means you take more damage, etc

[cobalt rapids]

then clear it and do the 3rd star later
u dont have to do it the hard way

[whole crypt]

start a thread and paste screenshots of your dock, we might have some fleet fixing to do

[blazing maple]

alright alright

just wait a bit

[fringe sail]

Quick question
How to make a thread?

[viscid swift]

on mobile or desktop?

[whole crypt]

only the second star needs to be cleared outside of clearing mode for hard
third star is automatically cleared even with boss only after you go into clearing mode

[cobalt rapids]

click on 🧵 on ur msg

[fringe sail]

Ohh I see it now thanks

[blazing maple]

W13 Hard mode help

there

[normal cedar]

which one is better? for more blueprints ie

[whole crypt]

whichever closer to completion I guess

[atomic abyss]

I would personally take ply, but yes what he said

[late flame]

i'd be inclined to take ply but if breast is near completion i guess the latter

[normal cedar]

none are close, I'm aiming dev 25 for both, rn I have enough for dev 20 only on both

[atomic abyss]

Ply

Ply wants Dev 30 asap

[forest palm]

I'd take the Plymouth, for faster Research cycling, because the print drop for 8 hours isn't worth it imo

[atomic abyss]

Unlike Brest, ply's DPS skyrockets at 30

[normal cedar]

oh I see, thanks ill go with ply then

[eternal basalt]

I find with D blue is the bestm so ply

[forest palm]

for 8 hours you get what 5 ~ 8 prints at which point you could've cycled roughly 5 Research coms

[late flame]

i mostly avoid 8hrs as well unless timing with maint and / or i need those prints for completion

[forest palm]

it doesn't hurt to start taking them the closer you are done with a season mind you

[late flame]

8hr rigging when

[whole crypt]

8hr D you're just comparing with 3 2.5hr Ds with half an hour to spare in terms of ship prints anyway, for DRs sometimes you just want more guaranteed prints

but in this case yes Plymouth would likely be the better option

[paper walrus]

so ive been told to craft two junkers but i already have 5 ryuseis and at least as far as this guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Torpedo_Bombers.jpeg goes they are very similar. Are the junkers still worth the materials?

[robust onyx]

Yes

[paper walrus]

🙏

[whole crypt]

they're fairly similar but you might still choose to use one or the other in optimization

[worldly pewter]

isn't ryuusei a lot slower ?

[whole crypt]

sometimes you just need that slight difference in timing

[late flame]

yeah timing

[atomic abyss]

more like saiun is a lot faster

d-4, ryuusei, vit-2 mode change dont have that much difference in timing

d-4 to saiun is a noticeable jump

[atomic abyss]

pretty much this anyways

[paper walrus]

hm this is good to keep in mind then but for the time being this is not a priority at all for me

[worldly pewter]

i remember once i had a hard time making a fleet for someone because he had many ryuuseis using the ijn ships

[atomic abyss]

hence why

it's better to have a variety

[subtle flare]

does anyone know if wishing well is coming next patch since its cn anni?

[eternal basalt]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

i believe it was announced yes

...for CN

[viscid swift]

it is

[whole crypt]

CN will have one, EN should have one

[subtle flare]

thank god, joffre hot tub skin here i come

[late flame]

ww is also a scam though

[atomic abyss]

EN should have one if we go by previous years

[forest palm]

I did say roughly, it could be more, it could be less, my point was that taking faster coms can lead to a higher yield

[worldly pewter]

and jp also

[subtle flare]

im in too deep, i just want to use my joffre skin

[vale spindle]

don't all servers get wishing well on cn anni

then i forgot when cn gets their second wishing well

[subtle flare]

i spent 500 cubes before remembering wishing well exists

[whole crypt]

who knows if they change it this year

[atomic abyss]

cny i believe

[tacit star]

should i use cubes for rescreach or save

[eternal basalt]

Well maybe not TW/KR but we don't count them

[late flame]

you'd mostly be trying to pull UR anyway instead of wasting on ww

[viscid swift]

considering someone I know has been pulling perma fo Aquila

[hushed sorrel]

rip

[atomic abyss]

never use cubes for research unless you have well over 600

[vale spindle]

makes sense

[tacit star]

ok thanks

[subtle flare]

omg its the tier list guy

[atomic abyss]

wat

[forest palm]

always funny how TW/KR are treated like forgotten children

[wind hazel]

it's me

[atomic abyss]

sam is your guide even updated

[vale spindle]

equip guide is updated (mostly)

[subtle flare]

sorry i mean the GUIDE guy

[atomic abyss]

i mean your samvaluations

[eternal basalt]

CN/JP with JP anni, EN with EN anni

[subtle flare]

were you the one who wrote those github ship recommendations

[atomic abyss]

you said you would update in december but

it's may so uh

[late flame]

time to run sam

[atomic abyss]

i mean i have to treat it like ECTL

[vale spindle]

i have been very studious in the meantime for better or for worse

[atomic abyss]

i took out ECTL cos it was not updated for like 5 mths at that point

i'll take the samvaluations out then

[vale spindle]

thats fine

[hushed sorrel]

take your sweet time.

[atomic abyss]

then again ECTL havent updated since rafaello

[sweet delta]

take #event-faq out too

[paper walrus]

if timing is the issue shouldnt saiun be preferred ?

[vale spindle]

once i site update im basically scraping suchis stuff anyways (with consent) so then it will be back

[atomic abyss]

sometimes you want slower tho

when we say timing we mean adjusting to go faster or slower

[late flame]

depends on how and what you are syncing to

[atomic abyss]

huh

[whole crypt]

if you need it that much faster
but sometimes you're just nudging it
it's not a priority if you have better use of the materials, depends on what you're pushing/optimizing

[forest palm]

they really should put the change log towards the top

[atomic abyss]

i thought i saw prelims for rafaello
guess i was wrong

[paper walrus]

no i mean specifically in relation to ryusei vs junker because their difference is only 0.2s

[atomic abyss]

and that small difference is multiplied

[vale spindle]

they have prelims on their server if you do a bot command but its not live on the website yet

[atomic abyss]

when you multiply by 3 or 4 planes

and with reload stat

[whole crypt]

the issue is simply how much timing adjustment you need

[paper walrus]

[atomic abyss]

i believe there's like a 2.2x modifier somewhere in the airstrike cd formula

[paper walrus]

interesting i did not know that

[atomic abyss]

consider that, you want +- 0.2s for syncing

[whole crypt]

syncing, matching with gimmicks, etc

[hushed sorrel]

posting not eng pictures. ban him admin (this is a joke)

[paper walrus]

ig because im still in w13 where syncing is irrelevant it never affected me

[atomic abyss]

luckily the numbers are in arabic numerals

syncing is irrelevant in campaign

[whole crypt]

syncing is not a campaign thing so much

[frank pulsar]

syncing is usually a boss thing

[atomic abyss]

desyncing is

[late flame]

in fact in campaign you'd want to desync

[atomic abyss]

so the logic that applies to using the planes to sync

can be flipped on its head

[whole crypt]

well before ch14 syncing for Helena on bosses is fine

[frank pulsar]

desync/stagger is preferred in campaign to have better backline dmg uptime

[atomic abyss]

i use a mix of breguets and wyverns to desync my exp grinding fleets

since breguets are a fair bit faster

[whole crypt]

but if you're not using any sort of timed buff/debuff syncing is basically irrelevant

the whole desyncing for campaign thing is more for 14+ because the boss fights are much longer and mobs are much tougher

[forest palm]

I do this with Spear instead of Berguet

[whole crypt]

easier still just be done with ch14/15

[late flame]

even easier is to skip c14/15 unless going after map drops

[paper walrus]

what map drops?

[late flame]

NO and H2

[eternal basalt]

14-4 and 15-4 drops

[viscid swift]

Houston 2, New Orleans

[paper walrus]

oh just for collection purposes then

[eternal basalt]

And if you somehow need Denver (devs, denver is in chap 14... fix your damn organiser)

[paper walrus]

i dont think its possible to get to chapter 14 without getting her from the standard pool

[worldly pewter]

and that smol s

[fast skiff]

What is the current best full auto squad for 15-4

[mellow cape]

So next event is Trafalgar?

[atomic abyss]

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[atomic abyss]

some examples of what can work

they may not be the best of the best

[atomic abyss]

lion, trafalgar etc yes

[paper walrus]

so as a general rule of thumb with every new event ships get slightly better?

[viscid swift]

not necessarily

[atomic abyss]

new URs are generally better than permanent URs

anything not UR tho uhhhh

[mellow cape]

Any word what kinda of ship tra is

[atomic abyss]

DD

[eternal basalt]

DD

[atomic abyss]

battle class DD

[paper walrus]

but a limited UR from 3 years ago isnt worse than the URs of this year

[atomic abyss]

it's in #game-news

[eternal basalt]

All shop ships SO FAR have been DD

[worldly pewter]

the only exception is shinano

[atomic abyss]

it's a general rule of thumb lol

abdou he's talking about sushi

[eternal basalt]

3 years ago was NJ right, then this year definitely beats her

[mellow cape]

Woah lion is ur too

[viscid swift]

well considering all those perma URs are more than 3 years old(just) yeah

[atomic abyss]

musashi will still be better than rafaello even if she bcomes permanent

[viscid swift]

4 years ago actually

[eternal basalt]

NJ, Vanguard, BisII, Lion?

[worldly pewter]

the yamato class supremacy will be more strengthened with the next jp anni

[paper walrus]

i was basing it on this

[viscid swift]

well

not every ship fullfills the same roles

in terms of overall power yeah it goes up with URs

[atomic abyss]

it's just a rule of thumb as said

i wouldnt look into it too deeply

[viscid swift]

and although Musashi and Raffaello are both mobing BBs, their kits aren't exactly the same

and currently Musashi's kit is superior for current mobing content

[mellow cape]

Looks like tra has shelling and CV kearsarge type ship?

[viscid swift]

CV is character voice

[hollow gust]

Where is the mebot AA sheet?

[atomic abyss]

she's a DD...

[atomic abyss]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/htmlview#gid=0

[mellow cape]

Oh I meant lion bruh

[atomic abyss]

BB

[mellow cape]

Oh x.x

[hollow gust]

Unlike the meth heads in Germany there aren't many hybrid ships

[atomic abyss]

goose

4 of the actual BBVs are japanese so what does that say about them...

[viscid swift]

Goose, Kearsarge is literally a USN ship designed for the Soviets originally

[eternal basalt]

That they get the most UR? Oh, BBV

[atomic abyss]

perhaps they're high on fentanyl as opposed to meth

[viscid swift]

Halford is also a Hybrid

[hollow gust]

"Hybrid"

The justification is only the Germans have dozens of concepts of hybrids

[viscid swift]

you kidding me

look around the archives of any navy for long enough and you'll find dozens of outragous concepts including Hyrbids

or ones that were actually built like HMS Furious

[atomic abyss]

the british and the monitors be like:

[eternal basalt]

SSV like what's best to combine... PLANES and underwater

[hollow gust]

just a joke on German Wunderwaffe

Where is suchi's spearfish testing

[cobalt rapids]

youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvY2NK-TwOU

[plain saffron]

new UR gear leak??

[paper walrus]

Avoid YouTube Guides

A majority of YouTube guides are often outdated, contain misinformation, and/or clickbait for views (or all of the above). Your best sources of information will come from Azur Lane Discord Servers, and/or people who actually play the game. Good Discord servers for help are Azur Lane Official, English Community Tier List, and English Community Guide Compendium.

[cobalt rapids]

this is not the majority

[worldly pewter]

also try to read the channel names

[plain saffron]

so sam's discord is bad, i knew it

[paper walrus]

i know i was just memeing around sorry

[plain saffron]

wait i'm dumb that server is there

[cobalt rapids]

memes in gph are banned

[eternal basalt]

The only UR gear we know is coming is Shimakaze's torpedo's... even JP didn't hint what's in the shop for this event...

[atomic abyss]

you mean shimakaze torps

and they're being added to gear lab

[sweet delta]

shinano's UR TB?

[fickle parcel]

Only front secretary gets passive affection right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[fickle parcel]

tyty

[worldly pewter]

in the comparison between the new iris normal torp and the kms magnetic
where does the one from alsace event stand ?

[cobalt rapids]

it stands as a bad torp

as far as auto is concerned

bad meaning u wouldnt ever pick it over a quad mag

[brittle quarry]

where does one find this list?

[vale spindle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/edit?gid=1469188580#gid=1469188580

[atomic abyss]

just bear in mind that the list isnt very useful on its own

[brittle quarry]

thank you

[serene moth]

should i get the breguet in coreshop?

[atomic abyss]

a good grab, but not a priority one

[serene moth]

how many missiles do people usually buy or need?

or should i buy multiple of the seal of the gods

[ivory pawn]

Depends on how many DDGs you're using. Most people just use one at most afaik. Don't forget to see if you got any from the CNY event.

[serene moth]

i got 3 missiles and one seal, i mean if people usually only use one then what should i buy, i have enough of the shells etc. Maybe start working on subs? snorkel then but i have 2 of those already maybe a third one? The subs i have are 81,96,37 and 101.

[cobalt rapids]

if u use subs then u want 3 snorkel and hull pairs
otherwise get cv timing auxes

[viscid swift]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[viscid swift]

Arrays and chips if you haven't already

A few Breguets if you plan to push campaign

[serene moth]

i have with arrays but do i need more chips?

[cobalt rapids]

but considering u have 101 u can skip on the 3rd hull for now

if u plan to farm tech at some point ull want the chips

[serene moth]

ah i see then, btw you mean the pressure hull design?

101 got a item i need to craft right

[cobalt rapids]

unique aug ? yea

[serene moth]

96 seems to have one too

[cobalt rapids]

yea

96 81 101 should be ur sub fleet from the options listed

[serene moth]

aight aight

which torpedos are recommended, black tip/red/blue

[atomic abyss]

bidders for all of them

[cobalt rapids]

red tip

[worldly pewter]

ok

[forest palm]

[golden saffron]

Just came back and I haven’t played in quite awhile. I feel like my teams need to be redone. I would like to have one iron blood team atleast though. Would anyone mind helping out?

[worldly pewter]

play normally until bz if u want a kms fleet
work on agir for the time being

missing z52 and rumey will make ur current kms a joke overall

[golden saffron]

should i finish up friedrich first? or get goin on agir?

[worldly pewter]

fdg first then agir

[golden saffron]

okkk

[worldly pewter]

did u unlock agir ?

[golden saffron]

nope not yet

i dont believe so

[worldly pewter]

start her missions then they won't finish until at least another week

[viscid swift]

Usual disclaimer that faction fleets are merely a self imposed handicap

[golden saffron]

i just thought synergy was a thing for alot of them

like how some give buffs to iron blood etc

[tame jungle]

there's nothing inherently synergistic about using ships from the same faction

[worldly pewter]

very few

the best ones are from ijn and eu

the rest are just smol bonuses

[atomic abyss]

the issue is that in most cases, the buffers themselves are shit

for those that arent, they're bonuses to their actual kit

[worldly pewter]

[viscid swift]

Not really and the buffs aren't big enough to turn bad ships into good ones

[civic wedge]

Hello chat how do i get her

[loud rover]

You need enough Iron Blood tech points to unlock her research

You're currently 248/600

[viscid swift]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[civic wedge]

Damn ok 😔

[loud rover]

hmm i thought slaimuda had a guide for fleet tech, i may be blind lol

[atomic abyss]

not slaimuda

[vale spindle]

They dont i do https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[loud rover]

ah samheart. i remembered wrong. been a long while since i've played

[forest palm]

ECTL updating their site is a funny one

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, how's my excercice fleet?

[stark quiver]

Go ask in #pvp
Frontline is bad btw

[robust onyx]

Not that great

[sudden sparrow]

Like from my experience, it can handle fleets with 16000+ on both vanguard and main fleet.

[forest palm]

Fleet Power isn't a meaningful measure...either way if you want to PvP sweat go to #pvp where they have all the resources

[viscid swift]

Fleet power as always is an entirely useless metric

There's a guide in the pins of #pvp
Read that first

[sudden sparrow]

Alright, thanks

[feral salmon]

I still using Musashi - Bis Zwei and Vanguard as my main BB fleet. Is it still good or any boat that I need to replace like Alsace?

[stark quiver]

whats the fleet for

[twilit crow]

when to cog aw+?

[stark quiver]

ships that youll use for high content

[hollow gust]

Well technically you can replace Musashi for Alsace , but that's only really cause Alsace is more reliable

[forest palm]

would say it's more so flexibility rather than reliability

[humble solar]

Guys, Warspite or Hood?

[forest palm]

Hood, do not bother with Warspite she is bad

[humble solar]

I'm looking for a decently mid BB to accompany QE fir the event

Okay

[warped acorn]

the event?

[humble solar]

Exp event

[warped acorn]

oh thank god i thought i miss some stuff again

wonder whats the phase 2 going be

[robust onyx]

UR event starting Tuesday

[humble solar]

Just to ask, why is Warspite considered bad? I see nothing wrong with her stats

[stark quiver]

she skill is meh, her stats are much better than those of top SR bbs

[slow fox]

Isn't the argument that Warspite expensive not worth

[humble solar]

I already have max-out Warspite

[forest palm]

meddling kit, most modern SSR BBs put her to shame, her retrofit costs way more than what you get out of it

[slow fox]

Suchi is such a hater. Warspite apparently CCDDCDDDXXXX2222XXXX1XX

[humble solar]

Hmm Warspite skill is pretty garbage. Especially her 1st skill. Flat 15s? A fast-firing gun plus fleet buffs can put other barrages to 12s

Who can replace her then? Prince of Wales or Nelson? Or Valiant?

[little tree]

Nelson is better

[polar heron]

How do you level up ships to 125 quickly?

[viscid swift]

Xp packs

[stark quiver]

exp books

[viscid swift]

But the more practical method is to just grind w12

[forest palm]

if you commit to it 1 to 125 should take like...what 4 ~ 5 days

[silk helm]

does shima's preload useful if you're going for speed farming opsi?

[late flame]

not really

[sharp socket]

it takes me about 1-2 weeks though

[stark quiver]

ibuki might be better

[spring basin]

so when is the ur event ? or next big/rerun event ?

[stark quiver]

tuesday

[sweet delta]

is that a new strat? 12s reload to proc Monarch barrage?

[proper patio]

for Wichita or Wichita Meta which ammo is better, HE or AP weapons to maximize damage

[atomic abyss]

depends
if you're using her for a specific boss, then choose the one that does best against the boss
mobbing? just use AP

[proper patio]

it would be more for world 14 and in the siren op

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't use either in w14

[stark quiver]

shouldnt be using whichita in w14

[viscid swift]

And there's better options for OpSi mobbing

[stark quiver]

shes high dps, but rather fragile

[atomic abyss]

w14 is too hard to use either without significant hard carrying from other team members

wichita og aside, because kinda irredeemably bad kit
wichita meta, as extremely strong a DPS as she is, is like, bottom 3 in the game in terms of tankiness (outside bulins)
so campaign and mobbing where she takes sustained damage is one of the worst places for her

pretty much need to have eldridge retro when using her for anything tough or bust

[late flame]

corpse dragging / spend gems revive

[forest palm]

you can just corpse drag in ops with no setbacks

[atomic abyss]

opsi mob is definitely the place you can use her without worry

since well, it's very easy

[split moon]

I find my fleet lose a lot of health
especially for musashi and the vanguard
is there any way I can change that

[viscid swift]

For what content exactly

Either way you could use tankier vanguards

[atomic abyss]

where is this being used
im assuming this is a continuation of your w13 boss fleet

[twilit crow]

should i continue using unicorn to baby other ships (lvl 99-105ish, they're good ships... i think) for exp in 12-4 because all shes doing is saccing exp shes lvl 120 with 1.5 mil exp (only reason i didnt uncap is bc shes my first 120, i know im going to use her until the end of time but atp i dont need it yet and im short on arrays bc new player) if i remove unicorn and level another ship, i would still be able to clear the stage most of the time, but if i get a bad rng roll or whatever some frontline ships could die

[vale spindle]

depending on the ships and gear you might not need unicorn

Go to 12-1 if 12-4 too hard and use 2 fleets so you don't 0 ammo the boss

[twilit crow]

most of them are already running survivability gear, the only real issue is ayayayayayanami (raising her for hard mode torp stat)

[atomic abyss]

It is, pretty normal to not use uni to baby ships precisely for the reason you mentioned, so don't worry

But yes, do use 2 fleets

Or pump in more survivability auxes

[vale spindle]

also you could always level another healer most are also good or have good tech so it works out

[twilit crow]

i have shohou thats it

[vale spindle]

she has good tech so its not a waste

[atomic abyss]

If not enough, that^
Or use stronger DPSes to carry your fleet

So you won't take as much dmg

[twilit crow]

and i rly dont want to retrofit another carrier after both saratoga and independence at the same time

[atomic abyss]

It's an art to delicately balance between efficient levelling and having runs suceed consistently at the bare minimum

[viscid swift]

Who said anything about retroing another CV

[atomic abyss]

And yeah Shouhou is fine without her retro if you're just gonna use her as a healer to top up stuff

Her healing is still pretty much the same, since it scales off the vanguard's HP
Just, less dmg

[twilit crow]

ohhh

[atomic abyss]

Do also consider sandwiching ayanami in the middle if you haven't

[twilit crow]

i have

i took someone elses +10 toolkits and replaced her +8 toolkits i think it did the trick

kind of

she survived the boss fight

she died

[sweet delta]

[twilit crow]

I'm just going to exp pack my way out of this shit I think if I give her 150 books a 8% reduction in dmg will prob be enough

[viscid swift]

or you could not run her in the boss fleet

[twilit crow]

50*

[viscid swift]

or not force your mob fleet to fight the boss as well

[twilit crow]

I'm alr 2 fleeting it my boss is just my normal boss

this fleet is only doing mobs but if for ex she does like 3 3* nodes in one sortie shes kinda cooked

[viscid swift]

you have a ship who can't even survive W12 bosses consistently in your regular boss fleet?

try staggering your fleet better to maintain damage uptime

as they say sometimes the best defense is a good offense

[twilit crow]

oh no I stopped putting her in boss fight after I read samhearts msg

I was alr auto repeating it while on discord

for this case or in general bc I do use Helena and my normal boss is synced to Helena

[twilit crow]

sorry I forgot to click reply

in this case Im using independence ~16-17s and Saratoga 10s barrage and airstrike and then normal airstrike around 24s so I think it's kind of spaces

[viscid swift]

for mob fleets as a whole, and for boss fleets in later campiagn stages

[twilit crow]

so then would this be spaced out enough

[split moon]

13-2 I forgot to mention

[atomic abyss]

1. Normal for Musashi - her skill literally gets her to take damage on behalf of other backliners. So any planes you don't kill will have their dmg done transferred from Amagi/Shinano to her

2. Frontline has no tank, so also expected. Replace Laffey with a tank, and swap that position with sandy

[viscid swift]

for the mob fleet? it works

[twilit crow]

ok thanks

[sharp pine]

Is it normal for W14 to spawn almost entirely large fleets?

[atomic abyss]

In 14-3/4 yes

[versed pebble]

I am at 13-2, and was wondering is Triple 406mm (Mle 1938 Prototype) still worth using proto cores for? I am a returning player and missed a lot of the events, and haven't really delved into opsci/research equips yet

[viscid swift]

yes

[twilit crow]

wait why is it 2 champy guns and 1 flandre gun again (why not 3 champy)?

[viscid swift]

speed mainly

[twilit crow]

like for ships w/ low reload stat or sm

[viscid swift]

well that and speed of obtainment

[late flame]

and who are using them

[twilit crow]

oh bc series 6 and series 3 are different so you don't have to wait a month

[viscid swift]

yes

[south sequoia]

CN stream didnt reveal any gear items right?

So we aren't sure if lion will debut with a ur gear?

[atomic abyss]

New gear lab stuff yes

That's about it

[stark quiver]

what new gear lab stuff

[atomic abyss]

Rainbow 610, breguet, new IJN DD gun and new french DB

[stark quiver]

the fabled shima torp?

[atomic abyss]

Nothing specified for the event itself

[viscid swift]

we could see Lion's main gun but

I wouldn't get your hopes up

[south sequoia]

Let's look out for JP patch notes I guess

If I'm correct it should be out maybe later today

[viscid swift]

I can't remember what they were like for Alsace's event

[atomic abyss]

Cleo people don't work on a weekend

[viscid swift]

let me double check actually

[south sequoia]

damn it

[stark quiver]

wait, is it likely

[south sequoia]

mondays the charm

[stark quiver]

shima torps will use
UR torp bp

[atomic abyss]

Spoiler

Shima torps aren't even used

[stark quiver]

i know as much yea

[atomic abyss]

Even for manual play the straight torps exist

[late flame]

b-but my fleet powah

[south sequoia]

iirc mogador gun wasnt revealed in stream either

[atomic abyss]

I used mine on Odin lol

[stark quiver]

i dont even have odin

[south sequoia]

so there maybe a chance

[viscid swift]

yeah going by Alsace's event patch notes should be ou on Monday

[split moon]

still leveling up tanks
how do I level them up
anchorage is still being developed and agir is like 80

[atomic abyss]

No Portland?

[stark quiver]

xp book

[atomic abyss]

Or even Eugen?

[late flame]

just play the game?

[atomic abyss]

@split moon

If you got no tanks raised

And are attempting to challenge w13

I suggest you come back later after the event

When you have your tanks raised

[fiery swan]

If there's only one gold ship this event and I can replenish purin can I give my new Eldridge 7 purin for retro

[atomic abyss]

Do you have her retro item to begin with

[fiery swan]

Yes

[viscid swift]

well 2 but one is a META

[atomic abyss]

I would wait

Your coins will run dry

Retrofitting SRs is very expensive

[viscid swift]

you're gonna commit about 60k on the retro alone

[atomic abyss]

Which is 40 builds worth

[fiery swan]

I'll run out of cubes before I run out of coins

[viscid swift]

plus another 20k for limit breaking

[austere jewel]

Have the “age restricted” skins returned to the store? Specifically Shinano - Visions of Fantasy (L2D), Napoli - Dreamy Night (L2D), Hindenburg - Delirious Duel (L2D), Chitose - Summer Shine, Atago - Summer March (L2D)

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

No

They're removed till further notice

(assume it's permanently)

[austere jewel]

Seems unnecessary now since the age rating has changed, I will put a formal submission.

[late flame]

good luck

[atomic abyss]

The age rating has only changed in certain regions

Also good luck lmao

The issue is Google

Not the game

Probably some dumb parent saw their child with those 5 skins in their secretary slot and complained to google

[viscid swift]

it's the only explanation that makes sense

[late flame]

i'm surprised google even entertained that shit tbh

[stark quiver]

i get where the parent is coming from

[robust onyx]

Over reacting parents ruin games

[late flame]

or its a plot to get moar folks with FOMO to buy skins amiriteguys

[austere jewel]

Anyone know what im supposed to do at this point?

[atomic abyss]

I'll just say this first

[robust onyx]

Hopefully they don't slam the new Shimanto skin

[stark quiver]

devs cant do anything, its google

[atomic abyss]

It's not going to be accepted

Because the issue lies with Google

Not the game

[austere jewel]

This is a formal complaint, I just don’t understand what im supposed to submit at a “optional” step

[atomic abyss]

That's not a formal complaint lmao

My dude whatever that's there, if accepted, ends up in #collected-feedback

That's all

Nothing else

[stark quiver]

dont end up like those chronic complainers, they cant do anything about it

[austere jewel]

It goes in the game feedback, and as far as I know they seem to work?

[atomic abyss]

Nope

[stark quiver]

as said, its an issue with google, the devs cant just magically fix it thru an update

[viscid swift]

it's not as if they're due to be rerun soon anyway if they weren't banned

[atomic abyss]

#game-feedback is just a yawning void for people to share their opinions

It's not a formal complaint place

[austere jewel]

Where should I send a complaint then?

[atomic abyss]

There isn't one

You can say bring back the skins there

And that's all

Nothing else

[robust onyx]

And it likely won't happen

[austere jewel]

Currently that is what im doing, but what should Input on the optional portion, “no”?

[tropic tusk]

I assume yesterday post for Collab will be for Nov right?

[atomic abyss]

Correct

[atomic abyss]

June 5

[viscid swift]

no, read my name

[atomic abyss]

No gacha units

[polar lion]

The cut off to be included in black Friday sale is when again?

[stark quiver]

cheeky lied

[tropic tusk]

Wait wt ?? But I thought there's UR coming?

[viscid swift]

I have to double check but it's either starting with the CN Anni or the batch after

[stark quiver]

well theres no gacha ships so youll be fine

[tropic tusk]

Wait no gacha units?

[viscid swift]

but the cut off date has not been entirely consistent so

[atomic abyss]

Please read before crying out yes

Both the 2 collab ships are not gacha ships

They're given for free

[viscid swift]

yes, only 2 ships and they'll both be free

[austere jewel]

@atomic abyss can I dm you, instead of messaging unrelated questions here?

[tropic tusk]

Oh ok

[polar lion]

Dang hope Monarch swimsuit made it

[viscid swift]

but don't worry, Ryza is rerunning soon as well

[atomic abyss]

Apple dude

You're just wasting your time

Genuinely

[sweet delta]

I thought it was about Google, not Apple

[tropic tusk]

How about the new UR do we know when it's coming? Or is it the next update

[viscid swift]

next update on the 20th

[atomic abyss]

20th

[tropic tusk]

3q

[austere jewel]

I already have the skins, Im just doing this for others who missed out

[stark quiver]

b4 or after summer

[viscid swift]

there's a stream summary in #cn-8th-anniversary-livestream-discussion

[atomic abyss]

No date specified for ryza

[viscid swift]

if I were to guess late July

[polar lion]

Isn't Collab usually in Nov?

[hollow gust]

aint the black friday cutoff august?

[late flame]

it could even be nov - no date set

[atomic abyss]

No

[viscid swift]

not for the past few years no

[atomic abyss]

Black Friday cut off is around this time usually

[viscid swift]

if it ever was

[stark quiver]

you know.... there are other months other than nov, js bc tlr ran

[atomic abyss]

No

[viscid swift]

yes but we can have multiple collabs in a year

[late flame]

also devs likes to play darts with dates so..

[viscid swift]

not the first time this has happened

[tropic tusk]

Wht did we had last year?

[late flame]

TLR

[viscid swift]

I keep forgetting to love ru was a thing

[late flame]

SK was the year prior

[tropic tusk]

Before to love ru

[polar lion]

TLR in Nov no?

[viscid swift]

just gime a sec

[atomic abyss]

Gridman rerun was in August or October

[tropic tusk]

All I remember was to love ru then this one

[late flame]

DOA rerun was in summer iirc

[viscid swift]

it was July

2021

[late flame]

aaaand i joined AL a few weeks after original Ryza collab ended lol (dec 2022)

[polar lion]

So Ryza rerun prolly other than Nov and new Yumia prolly in Nov

[sweet delta]

TLR collab was in spring ||for australia||

[viscid swift]

it's gonna be one event not 2 @polar lion

[atomic abyss]

Which is

Kinda weird

[late flame]

ryza gonna be a rerun + added ships yeah

[atomic abyss]

Cos ryza and yumia are completely different games with completely different characters

[late flame]

same same but different

[atomic abyss]

They're just the same franchise

[polar lion]

Wait they both atelier tho

[late flame]

still we can only wait for more announcement / patch notes

[viscid swift]

I machine translated what was said in the live stream

[atomic abyss]

It's like saying
Gundam SEED and Gundam witch of mercury are both the same series

[late flame]

GUNDAM

[atomic abyss]

Yes they're Gundam but they don't share the same cast lol

[viscid swift]

nothing concrete but it was heavily impying just one event

[tropic tusk]

2 different things tho

[atomic abyss]

Exactly

Ryza and Yumia are different things lmao

[late flame]

smol indie company plox understand

[stark quiver]

witch of mercury mentioned

[viscid swift]

same universe but different characters, time, etc

[atomic abyss]

They're both atelier franchise

That's all

[vale spindle]

ender consider that the al story can just say merged timelines or some bs to justify it

[hollow gust]

wont they just pull the different banner like with other rerun Collabs

[atomic abyss]

At least with gridman and dynazeon
They actually... End up having a shared movie

[viscid swift]

probably but even the past reruns only intoduced 2 new ships

and frankly, I don't see a 12 charcater total dual banner being particularly attractive

[vale spindle]

its gonna be like gridman rerun is my guess

[tropic tusk]

12charater banner is a bit too much

[late flame]

+collabs have never known to rake in lots of $$$

[forest palm]

it's split into 2 select limited banners

[viscid swift]

if anything collabs rerun do pretty poorly revenue wise

[tropic tusk]

If it's 2 banner then that's fine

I don't mind if they let me buy 6unit in store and keep 1 banner

[stark quiver]

whatre the rate ups for WW again?

[viscid swift]

standard event rates

[late flame]

oh
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Wishing_Well_Construction_Rates

and yes ww is a bloody scam

[stark quiver]

i can finally get my

[tropic tusk]

When is ww coming?

[stark quiver]

along with cna

[late flame]

concurrently during cn anni

[viscid swift]

tell that to the person who's wasted who knows how many pulls on the perma pool and events for Aquila

[stark quiver]

it was only 200

[polar lion]

Mutsuki?

[tropic tusk]

I already got Aquila from normal special pull

Was doing daily special

[late flame]

if i first pull UR sure i'll try for princeton and chiyoda to finish my cv RLD

[stark quiver]

im doing ww first

[viscid swift]

alpha is not sane anymore

[forest palm]

imagine needing ships from perma pool

[wary skiff]

is it normal to get an evenish split of prints for URs when researching tiers? i need 43 nakhimov prints and 266 more napoli.. wondering if its bc i was rlly dumb and skipping napolis at the time or wut

[whole crypt]

imagine needing ships

[whole crypt]

either you were skipping Napoli or also you took selectors for Nakhimov

[ivory pawn]

Depends on how you prioritize face researches and how you use your general blueprints, probably.

[forest palm]

it'll speed up as you finish Nakhimov

[wary skiff]

i def didnt prio napoli face researches aat first

[ivory pawn]

I heavily focused Nakhimov too, so I'm in a similar boat. Actually maybe worse off.

[split moon]

ok

[forest palm]

that is cursed

[tropic tusk]

Just asking but wht kind of research are U doing

[wary skiff]

grant donations with focus on nakhimov if she shows lol

[ivory pawn]

That would do it. Would recommend picking up Riggings too.

[wary skiff]

oh ya i slam riggings when im poor or a ur event is out

[tropic tusk]

Rigging is the one cost cubes right?

[wary skiff]

no

[ivory pawn]

No, plates.

[tropic tusk]

Ya do plates when U see them also that plane U need alot

[wary skiff]

ya i got 1 la-9 so far

[tropic tusk]

Ya same just keep farming and aim for 2 or more

[wary skiff]

once i get to like 800 cubes ill start doing the cube researches

[viscid swift]

Yeah I wouldn't

I wouldn't consider 800 enough and long term gear focus/rigging is better

And Focusing on Grants is terrible middle ground

[wary skiff]

how much would be enough? i saw some said 400 but im ehhhhhhh on that and felt 800 would bee saaafe enough

oh is it rlly lol, should i just do rigging and face

[viscid swift]

Either go all in on riggings or faces with grants as a secondary option

[viscid swift]

1k

[wary skiff]

damn at at 556.. spent like 60 cubes doing special pool a couple days ago for no reasonn lmao

[viscid swift]

I burned like 300 cubes in a month when I did cube focus for PR7

Was probably more realistically

Probably closer to 500

[stark quiver]

you could just not do cube researches

unless you for some reason wanna speedrun a season and have a faster start to do gear focus, just for someone who started 2 months late catch up💀

[forest palm]

still mildly astounded that they managed almost 513 prints for Nakhimov w/o finishing any of the PRs

[atomic abyss]

I think I got there too tbh

I only barely finished them

And I was using coobs

[polar lion]

I just gear focus all the time. And even then rng can be merciless still can't escape from gear prints drought sometimes

[stark quiver]

i only do coobz to reroll a shit list

[ivory pawn]

Not that hard really, especially if they're sitting on a ton of the gold selectors and used all their UR selectors.

[late flame]

i probably should go back to get another plygun (now that i have my 4th L9 on hand)

[forest palm]

the thing is this is PR7 so you can only use Selectors for 7

[blissful galleon]

Can anyone help me set up a solid second fleet with good gold/purples I just want something that I don’t have to use many gold bulins on

[wind hazel]

sure

[wary skiff]

there were a lot of nakhimov faces

[ivory pawn]

I meant all their selectors for 7. We've gotten quite a bit after all.

[tropic tusk]

Just so U know eventho U click her it's not 100%drop rate

[tropic tusk]

Unless it's the cube version

[wind hazel]

you're wrong

[ivory pawn]

Uh. If it shows that ship on the research, you're guaranteed to get that ship and only that ship's prints.

[wary skiff]

when i first started i spread all my selectors out since idk what they did

[wind hazel]

where are you in campaign

[tropic tusk]

then I'm wrong sorry maybe I click too fast n just missed it

[wind hazel]

actually let's move to thread

eggo fleet

[normal cedar]

whats the minimum drop this project gives you? or nothing is guaranteed?

[wind hazel]

not sure min but it's usually average 3-5 of ship bps

[rapid grail]

what's average rates for la-9? [current la-9 prints]/[days since pr7 release]

[whole crypt]

depends on your researches

the gear focus folks are either done or on their way for the 5th copy

[wind hazel]

311 days btw

im curious about my own rate too but in the middle of sortie

[rapid grail]

how many la-9 copies and prints u have atm

[normal cedar]

random ship bps? no dr bp guaranteed? also no ur gear bps?
are these worth it to speed up brest and ply print aquisition

[late flame]

just got 4th La9 - rng is really a fickle mistress

[whole crypt]

there's no guarantee and yes no gear prints

[normal cedar]

oh i see, thanks
not worth it much then for 3 coobes

[whole crypt]

cube only use for rushing ships early in series or as refresh if lineup is all long rubbish

[polar lion]

5th huh

Think we can make it for 6th before PR8 release in July?

[whole crypt]

what does whaling have to do with anything @wind hazel

it's possible to make 6th but I'll probably stop after 5th

no real use for 6th copy for now and it'll make it to shop anyway

[wind hazel]

it's just a "rich" emoji, as in rich in UR gear. relax

[viscid swift]

something something suddenly getting better rates after you spend a large amount of money on the game

[polar lion]

I wanna put on Unikai and Aquila

[whole crypt]

I did that for a while

[wind hazel]

they have my bf109g +13 leftovers

[whole crypt]

but besides needing it in the boss fleet it's just too slow for zooming OS

[wind hazel]

& 4

so... 0.68

[rapid grail]

The sweats + lucksacks probably already got a 6th copy by then. dedicated plebs on their 5th before pr8

[whole crypt]

0.75562700964630225080385852090032

[polar lion]

Also for xfleet stat pad

[rapid grail]

atm I have 210/311, so 0.675 prints a day

[late flame]

fleet powah

[whole crypt]

sweating doesn't get you more rainbow prints, but luck does yes

[rapid grail]

did a detour for 11 plygun prints so my actual rate is around 0.71

[whole crypt]

again I emphasize the lack of use of a 6th copy now, and you can buy it from shop not that long after

[rapid grail]

ngl I htought 5th copy isn't all that important bcs Kear's mostly out

[polar lion]

Yea I dun think even lucksackers would even be daaaat fast to finish 6th now. At most I think possible is finished with 5th

[whole crypt]

the best fleet that can use La-9s now uses 5 of them

[whole crypt]

we have like 2 months till new series for 1 more if you lucky

[rapid grail]

NP core (Soyuz, Nakhi) outdamages EU core (Kear, Yk2n)

[whole crypt]

yes that fleet uses 4 so even better

but some people like using Yorkown II/Kearsarge so

[sweet delta]

i like using indom illust implac

[rapid grail]

Understandable
btw what's 'best' fleet

[stark quiver]

almost a year? damn im old

[rapid grail]

more is better tho, i kinda agree

though part of me still wants to go back to Plygun print searching

[whole crypt]

Soyuz/Nakhimov/Fritz uses 4
Kearsage/Yorktown II/Implacable can use up to 5 but it's better using HVAR for light because of Yorktown skill reqs

more is better if it doesn't take you too much additional effort or giving up on other stuff

I'm going back to PR5 after 5th plane because you can use significantly more q152s

[rapid grail]

[polar lion]

How many q152 is ideal?

[whole crypt]

as many as active duty BBs and CLs that don't use DD guns you have

[plain saffron]

do people time mog torps with the stab?

[polar lion]

So I would need liek 8?

[wind hazel]

6 max if you gear swap