gameplay-help

[kind needle]

Is a medium-heavy bb comp of Sashi/Soyuz/Alsace good? (Still have NJ, Ulrich, FDG, Rafaello, Vanguard lying around)

[cobalt rapids]

that bb comp can fight light aswell if u change their guns

[slow fox]

I don't even change their guns and they still do good against light abyssals and arbiter

[cobalt rapids]

put vanny if u want to make it more universal
but then again abysalls fall over to rainbows and current month and next month harby is med>hvy

[atomic abyss]

well, it's still very good, but not the best

as said, vanguard over musashi to be more universal and deal with light better

the only thing that would improve on even that would be bismarck zwei

[cobalt rapids]

i dont put rudder on my ships and they still tank decently

[kind needle]

I'm struggling at last month's arbiter

[atomic abyss]

regular arbiter or hard arbiter

[kind needle]

The problem is, I almost didn't get her

[kind needle]

Both.

[atomic abyss]

well her rerun is due to occur soon

i mean
hard arbiter is understandable, the rewards arent AS crucial anyways

for normal arbiter, it's important to remember that you can leave to heal and go back in

[cobalt rapids]

did u gear appropiatly ? april temperance doesnt even have timed shields u need to be wary about
only a shelling shield at the end which all u need to do is finish her off with cvs
there should be no issues in bb+cv rainbow fleets

[kind needle]

Yeah, last month took me two tries since I lack anti light gear

[viscid swift]

I mean, considering most people can't beat harbiter at all

[kind needle]

I left mine at around 75% before reset😔

[cobalt rapids]

just gear appropriately

and reset for helena

[cobalt rapids]

not hard to believe when i look at meta support gearing

[kind needle]

Since I lack anti light, would BF109 Rockets work in ST (only have one Skyraider and HVAR)

[cobalt rapids]

ye

[stark quiver]

Temp shield is 20s yea?

[cobalt rapids]

there was no 20s shield last month

[stark quiver]

For following months

[cobalt rapids]

ye

[rocky tinsel]

When looking for the files in operation siren: They might take multiple tries to spawn? As in I should enter the secured area version of the map a couple times?

[stark quiver]

How can I bypass it if I wanna one strike?
Faster cvs? Or blast thru the shield

[kind needle]

Should I go Implac or D20 Nakhimov on amagicv Nano comp?

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Operation_Siren_Zones#Record_Files

[stark quiver]

Implacable if she’s mlb

[cobalt gate]

wow i just realized +10 rainbow radar is better than +13 gold radar

[cobalt rapids]

nahkimov at d20 doesnt even have her full planes

[kind needle]

Yeah... I'll go AvP on anti light ig

[foggy minnow]

for what should i spend the gems first ? did 3rd place in dorm and upgraded 1x dock should i upgrade dorm up to 6 ?

[cobalt rapids]

check /gems in #bot-spam

[cobalt gate]

anyone have meta hornet team with soviet cv fleet comp? just finished admiral

[foggy minnow]

ah ok thanks

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[cobalt gate]

..... only 2 la 9

[cobalt rapids]

check v2.0 linked

[kind needle]

Would this work or nah?

[cobalt gate]

what does max cv + 0bb mean?

[stark quiver]

You could slot in enty for avp and eld for ancho

[stark quiver]

Reload values

[kind needle]

Don't have eld

[cobalt rapids]

alot of top ships so yea itll work

[stark quiver]

Oh that works then

[cobalt gate]

oh so 0 rld for bb?

[cobalt rapids]

but if ur goal is to oneshot harbiters then concentrate all power in 1 fleet

[stark quiver]

Also pls halp sea kitty

[cobalt rapids]

i hear kitties give up to 40 rld

[kind needle]

So... This better?

[cobalt gate]

i just 2 fleet hard arbitrators

[cobalt rapids]

but yes bypass shield for cv req are pretty high
enty can be accelerated by yk2 to a degree but the others need to be fast

[sterile jolt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTrkHM2q6Fc&list=PLehRnBSe3mgFf99L47NR4neS3QpVK1uWh

[cobalt rapids]

its better for the first strike ( because of the xfleets slows) and then its not better anymore because u dont have slows

[sterile jolt]

i dont really know what you wanna do, but maybe that can me helpful

[stark quiver]

Some max tech speed run comp doesn’t really help me that much

[sterile jolt]

well, so how you wanna bypass the shield? just strike down the shield is the only way to pass the shield...

[stark quiver]

Well for one I can’t really use a fulmar cos I won’t have damage
I’ll try 80 reload and see how it goes

[kind needle]

I do have guam lying around... Should I put her somewhere?

[cobalt rapids]

u can put her instead of anchorage

actually instead of laffii and move laffii to the other fleet

[kind needle]

Also brest...

[cobalt rapids]

brest can go mobbing or smth

[kind needle]

I use Yatsen, Tai Yuan and Harbin in mob so... Idk

[cobalt rapids]

i mean

theres only so many slots in opsi so yea she can also be benched

[kind needle]

So should I ditch Laff2?

[cobalt rapids]

ditch anchorage. lafii goes f3 and guam goes f2
replace yat or bench brest it doesnt matter

[kind needle]

Like this i mean

[woven star]

No heal for mobing fleet?

[kind needle]

Which of these options the best mob flag?
NJ, MP FS5, Gascogne FS5, Richelieu

[kind needle]

I do have a mob fleet

Using Uni as healer

[cobalt rapids]

the rainbow

[woven star]

OK. Nvm

[kind needle]

NJ or Rumey for mobbing flag?

[cobalt rapids]

hopefully all these ships are mlb
and one more thing
level them to lv120 at least
level advantage gives dmg and survability at the same time

[kind needle]

Yeah, all of em are mlb

[cobalt rapids]

i mean put both nj and rumey what do u run besides unicorn ?

[kind needle]

Indepkai

[cobalt rapids]

eh then its fine
put rumey if u need to use ur mob fleet against abysalls or harbis

[kind needle]

NJ for general clearing, and Rumey for abyssals, arbiters and siren coords... Am I right?

[cobalt rapids]

thats fine

[woven star]

In abyss maybe better use mob fleet. Rumey if with hvar more like single target bosses

[turbid dawn]

3m33s kill on this month challenge, why is Soyuz dmg so low? Or is it just that Nahk+Fritz are CVs so just outscale massively?

[stark quiver]

Doesn’t her gimmick cuck fp damage

[olive geyser]

what's a good main gun for Hidenburg? non rainbow

[vale spindle]

any of the good gold ones

[atomic abyss]

you can refer to this

[hollow gust]

Non rainbow gun hinden not worth using ngl

[sweet delta]

The ammo changer note in the bottom left should have hinden > drake = unzen > gold

[vale spindle]

my original thought process was if you go purely by the actual damage output per reload cycle its under the good AP options but its changed now (on the spreadsheet)

and FP matters too which i forgot about

[ember ember]

I’m new and I’m lvl 31 and this is currently my main fleet, any suggestions on what I should do in the future?

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

ditch that fleet, refer to this instead

[ember ember]

Gotcha

[atomic abyss]

too many golds will kill your resources

[ember ember]

I never knew that

[atomic abyss]

at least early on

[sweet delta]

But it's not below golds by raw damage
And unzens better spread and angle makes it equal or insignificantly better than drake

[vale spindle]

It is below in raw damage per reload cycle
It's 50x6 which is tied lowest on this image

I forgot to consider fp and gun characteristics hence why i fixed it

[sweet delta]

Coefficient

[little tree]

[vale spindle]

I forgot that too I'm actually dum

[viscid swift]

[little tree]

[vale spindle]

[ember ember]

Thank you sm I read it up to looting gear and worth of it

[sweet delta]

:sampat:

[fair lance]

Do you lose collection% when you retire a ship?

[atomic abyss]

no

[fair lance]

Alright cool

[humble solar]

What stat do DDGs use for their missiles?

[vale spindle]

TRP

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equip you can check wepon scalins on this site

[marsh tusk]

Is there a better way for getting these besides buying them in the store and waiting a month for the restock?

[cobalt rapids]

reach lv100 and and do ur daily raid

[marsh tusk]

Only 93 sadly

[cobalt rapids]

main array income is in the daily raid u get about 270 per month from there

till then spend em sparingly

[marsh tusk]

Thanks. Is there an efficient way to power level?

[cobalt rapids]

grinding w12 and doing ur opsi

[marsh tusk]

Tyvm

[keen sable]

Event exists.

[tiny reef]

how many blue prints does UR research give?

[sterile jolt]

5-9

[marsh tusk]

Are meta ships any good? Is there a reason to keep them in my dock or do they just take up space?

[hollow gust]

They don't take up space

[marsh tusk]

They don't count towards your dock slots?

[hollow gust]

Nope

[marsh tusk]

Cool thanks

[white agate]

did perhaps a balance patch happen in the last day?

i ask because i passed from a clear rate of 100% to 33% in 13-1 hard, wich seems pretty weird to me since it's been months since i last changed my fleet or formation

[ember ember]

Advice on limit breaking laffey for low levels and what chapters to do them for?

[ivory pawn]

Use Purple Bulins, you get a ton from missions.

Other than that it's just getting levels, which you can get from just farming the highest campaign stage you can do.

[stark quiver]

No?

[tawny thunder]

Any advice for preparing for chapter 15? Useful ships to use for it or anything

[little tree]

You got sandy Shinamotto Edlrich Kai Z52 ?

[viscid swift]

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[little tree]

^ that as well

[tawny thunder]

You're using name I'm not familiar with but I guess I do have those if I had to guess, just maybe not leveled or geared

[hardy creek]

Is Arkhangelsk worth max lbing? Also is elite Bullins easy to come by?

[viscid swift]

only for fleet tech and relatively so

[weary gust]

Check that all your ships are geared and that you didn't take something off them.

[white agate]

i did, nothing changed not even affection , tho now i won, maybe it was an unlucky scenario that never happened in 2 months and happened 3 times in a row today

[tawny thunder]

San diego, shimanto, Ulrich and who is Kai?

[weary gust]

"kai" means retrofit.

Eldridge is only useful after retrofit.

[tawny thunder]

oh thanks

[hardy creek]

Between Pennsylvania and her who would be better?

[viscid swift]

I'd take Penn

[weary gust]

Elite bulins are the easiest to come by but you'll still be in bulin debt on them for a long time because so many ships need them. Early game you don't want to waste them but you can definitely use as many purple ships as you want for the most part.

[dreamy blade]

It happens yeah if bad rng, Im guessing your flagship got nuked by plane leakage

[little tree]

If you still have questions after reading the guide you can always make a thread or ask here

[dreamy blade]

I've had a backline die on me randomly in 13-1h but wasn't flag so I just got an A instead of failing

[soft raft]

When's the CN Anniv stream again?
I know the site is up but I havent looked too into it yet cuz finals are a bitch

[ivory pawn]

May 16th 19:00, I assume in CN time.

[whole crypt]

yes, UTC+8

[little tree]

boss or mob

[dreamy blade]

clearing mode so boss

[clear harbor]

Good luck with finals!

[solar canopy]

is there a quick way to get this other than OpSi? i only get this 1 per month from OpSi Supply Shop...

[weary gust]

Opsi is the only source of those.

[ivory pawn]

You can craft up 8 t2 > 1 t3 as well, if you don't have much use for t2s atm.

[solar canopy]

hoo okay, thank you

[rocky tinsel]

The guide for operation siren says the “even numbered records only spawn in safe zones “. Does that mean explorable or secured? And what’s the best way to get their spawn to happen?

[ivory pawn]

Safe = Secured.

Just spam the maps in the correct order. The even numbers are easy since you can just repeat the zone until you get it. The odd numbers will slow you down since you only get one chance per region per month.

[plain saffron]

Odd number is guaranteed so it's doable in 1 month, unless you fucked up the order

[zenith pebble]

oh shit opsi reset

ima do the same damn thing like last month

[dawn crest]

Hey! I set up these fleets for Chapter 14, all good?
Mob Fleet
Vanguard: Laffey 2, Scylla, San Diego
Main: Prinz Rupprecht, Unicorn, Zuihou
Alts: Marco Polo, Gascony, Perseus, Isuzu, Musashi, FdG, UvH, Amagi, Volga

Boss Fleet
Vanguard: Agir, Shimanto, Plymouth
Main: Flandre, Fritz Rumey, Hakuryuu
Alts: Guam, Musashi, Nagato, Amagi CV, Shinano, Enterprise, FdG, Kearsarge, UvH, Alsace, Vanguard, Soyu, Warspite, Impaclabe, York 2, Volga

[hardy creek]

Is there anyway to got taihou currently? Is she in any of the banner pools?

[dawn crest]

Pretty sure she’s in the special permapool.

[viscid swift]

Mob: Musashi, Unicorn, Zuiho, Laffey 2, Scylla, San Diego
Boss: Alsace, Amagi CV, Shinano, Agir, Shimanto, Plymouth

[dawn crest]

Thanks a lot!

[dawn crest]

Should Shinano and Amagi be synchronized, or have different timers?

[simple dove]

yeah im no smarter than a third grader ngl

[viscid swift]

they should be desynced

[dawn crest]

thanks!

[simple dove]

i have absolutely zero idea what to do cause it didnt give me any proper instructions

[whole crypt]

perm pool, wouldn't recommend pulling for her, just keep playing and she shows up in invites every now and then

she'll also be in any event pools based on special but the rates will be worse than perm pool after deducting rates for event ships

[hardy creek]

What are invites?

[stark quiver]

some event thingy u get from time to time,
can be used to exchanged for a featured ship in the invitentation letter

[hardy creek]

Ah alright

[whole crypt]

if you stick around she's been in every invitation for the past 5 CNYs

[honest sequoia]

What’s a unikai
Or is it unicorn in another term

[ivory pawn]

Retrofitted Unicorn.

[stark quiver]

kai is retrofit, people got the term from kancolle

[viscid swift]

wait till people learn about kai -nis

[whole crypt]

it's also kai in AL if you're on JP

[normal cedar]

is it better to farm for DoY in war archive or buy through merit shop

*duke of york

[stark quiver]

merit

[rose whale]

Is today last day of the event

[stark quiver]

no

[viscid swift]

honestley I think I'd rather farm the WAs

because getting the few thousand oil you'll need will be a lot quicker than 20k merit

[stark quiver]

i guess thats also true, but if youve been doing your normal pvps the 20k shouldnt be a problem

[viscid swift]

I mean no but I can think of a number of other things to spend 20k merit on

[stark quiver]

wait actually, why does he even need DoY

[wind hazel]

getting from WA is a lot of oil tho

[viscid swift]

it's only 10k I think last I checked

[wind hazel]

that doesnt sound right

[viscid swift]

ok I was kinda right

[stark quiver]

10k could go towards farming actual tech compared to some assy wa tho
and again why do you even need Doy

[viscid swift]

10680 if you low cost with a 20 oil fleet

[stark quiver]

can they tho

[wind hazel]

only for D4 or you didn't include c1 to d2

[whole crypt]

I'd just go with oil cap it's XP anyway

[viscid swift]

compared to 16k with a full fleet

[viscid swift]

I mean that's a negligable amount compared to what you'll spend in D3 though

[whole crypt]

it's not like lowcost B1/3 sort of efficiency and you're not after points

16k oil it 60 runs of D3 alone

[wind hazel]

well oil is oil, i'd rather just spend 20k merit

[viscid swift]

I'd rather and did burn the oil sand save the merit for gold bullins

[whole crypt]

it's 16k oil that's still being spent to XP, just not as efficient as 12

I agree that merits should go to bulins

[stark quiver]

i mean what else would you really buy
eld if you even have her item
alba for fishy
bulinz , but iirc they come in plenty for newer players, or not i forgot been a while since i was a newb

[viscid swift]

Bullins

[whole crypt]

bulins

[viscid swift]

maybe cubes if you're desperate

[whole crypt]

even if you're not desperate should buy cubes whenever they're up

[stark quiver]

comes once in a blue moon

[viscid swift]

I haven't bought them for years

[wind hazel]

[whole crypt]

bulins are plentiful until they're not, you can save the merits for when you're pumping SRs

you can spend merits a lot faster than you get them

[wind hazel]

i mean same with oil..

[whole crypt]

yes but it's not like running winter's crown is just throwing all 16k oil out the window with no rewards

[wind hazel]

nobody say that lol

[stark quiver]

i mean theres honestly 2 sides to this argument, and i can see the pros and cons of each side

[whole crypt]

it's also only 16k if you need the 60run pity

[stark quiver]

but i just personally wont spend 16k oil to farm for a ship, esp when youre like newer player

[wind hazel]

same. it's 1.25 bulin for a new ship, seems like a fair trade

[viscid swift]

eh, 16k oil isn't nothing but merit is a much more time gated resource in the long run

[wind hazel]

i guess in the end it's just up to personal preference on which one you value more

[whole crypt]

16k oil farming archives is more like 6k oil "wasted" XP wise, ignoring chip drops

[thorn tartan]

I want to boost my torpedo damage on a torpedo focused fleet. Which main ships have great bonuses for torp damage (or damage in bonus in general)

[normal cedar]

I need DoY for two reasons=
HMS Tech points
Good ship to sortie with future ur if it turns out to be HMS UR

anyways thanks a lot , ill go for merit shop

[viscid swift]

Amagi CV for IJN ships

[stark quiver]

amagi cv, kii,vanguard

[viscid swift]

uhhhh, Kii and Nagato buff TRP stat on IJN ships and.....

[whole crypt]

is there a specific reason you want a torp fleet besides memes

[thorn tartan]

i'll go read up on their abilities

seems it would be good for killing bosses quickly, heavy ones anyway

[stark quiver]

she has good 120 tech
hms tech pts is understandable i guess
idt youll use her even if theres a hms UR

[viscid swift]

not really no because bosses these days have too much HP

[wind hazel]

not gonna end well

[stark quiver]

nah, its only for ex gaming

[whole crypt]

glad I asked

[stark quiver]

[thorn tartan]

nagato gives 10% dmg boost to all sakura ships when she is flag

[viscid swift]

even if was an HMS UR

1. there's ntohing to say she'll need or buff other HS ships
2. Dork is not that good so the likelihood of either of the above being enough to justify using her is slim

[dense spindle]

sorry to barge in but What if Torp fleet is backed up by a Main like Musashi

[viscid swift]

also Vanguard exists and is a better Dork in pretty much every practical way

[stark quiver]

not good

[simple dove]

doth i need to purchase this?

[viscid swift]

you're still dealing with a fragile vanguard

[wind hazel]

you want to

[stark quiver]

no
but you should

[whole crypt]

it's just a bad idea to build a torp fleet anyway

[viscid swift]

not to mention this is assuming good manual play

[simple dove]

oh would you look at that

[viscid swift]

on auto forget about it completely

[wind hazel]

i am looking respectfully

[whole crypt]

we buy all of that, just keep grinding OS you'll have enough currency

[viscid swift]

the damage potential of a torp fleet compared to a more traditional boss fleet is just not there

[thorn tartan]

it doesn't work well on opsi bosses?

[stark quiver]

no
just run a normal fleet

[viscid swift]

that's not really a high bar though lets be honest

[whole crypt]

basically anything works, including torps yes

[wind hazel]

just put unzen there and pretend she's the entire torpedo meme

[stark quiver]

i mean, in any situation that warrants a torp meme, the only manual skill will be driving your fleet and kissing the boss while tapping torp

[thorn tartan]

i never use my 4th opsi fleeet so i thought i'd stick it there and try it out

[whole crypt]

you don't need to facetorp with teatorps

[simple dove]

caan i run ddg main for funsies

[whole crypt]

if you don't do anything with fleet 4 just shove excess URs there for cross fleet

[thorn tartan]

yeah, that's a good idea too. find 6 ships with cross fleet skills

[whole crypt]

you can do anything you want but we won't recommend it

[simple dove]

do you recommend it

[whole crypt]

"I" am part of that "we"

[simple dove]

btw if im struggling a bit with corrosion 6 but are able to complete stuff there, should i

[dense spindle]

Is a DD Vanguard not that worth it or depending on the circumstances and Shipgirl

[stark quiver]

anyone here from lexy?

[whole crypt]

there are good DDs depends on where and how you want to use who

[atomic abyss]

You can, but as said it's not a good idea

[whole crypt]

if it's adapts come back with higher adapts, if its levels then level up more and come back, you pretty much should clear all of OS

[atomic abyss]

Most DDs are irrelevant of course
But the few that are relevant have different uses
So it depends on where you're using them

[honest sequoia]

Is ibuki worth developing??

[atomic abyss]

I mean
With her augment she's pretty damn good now

[stark quiver]

shes a top torp ship

[whole crypt]

she's a good preload nuker with aug, but that's about it

[atomic abyss]

She's basically a worse unzen

Though she's comparable to shimakaze now

[whole crypt]

she's better than unzen on <15s fights

[honest sequoia]

Sounds just about right
But technically with her aug she’s top torp ship?

[stark quiver]

she has lower fleet power than shima and unzem

[wind hazel]

she's good for opsi mob

[atomic abyss]

A tankier, more consistent shimakaze

[dense spindle]

what about Yuudachi

[whole crypt]

on longer fights unzen outdamages her by a lot

[atomic abyss]

Who the hell gives a shit about that

[atomic abyss]

Good but woefully underpowered by UR standards

Just use a DDG at that point

[whole crypt]

keep in mind ibuki is only double preload, not double load, and only mgm1

[atomic abyss]

Cheaper in almost every meaning

Especially considering you don't have to farm for a DDG

You need half the spec core, (assuming you even missed the event)
They don't need 3 gold bulins
They cost less to upgrade
They cost less to run

[whole crypt]

practically the only regular role she's good for

[atomic abyss]

The only issue is that they do guzzle core data for their gear

[viscid swift]

1, Yuddachi only needs 1 dupe/bullin

[atomic abyss]

Oh right, she's the only one isn't she

Well a gold bulin is still a gold bulin anyways

Farming for yuudachi is the biggest pita

[honest sequoia]

So Ibuki only good for mobbing wise?

[marsh sparrow]

short mob fight

[atomic abyss]

Well, if you don't have unzen

She's likely your best torper regardless

[cursive laurel]

shes good for everything its just short fights like opsi is the only time shes the best

[atomic abyss]

Opsi mob battles last less than 20s with a properly built fleet so ye

[little tree]

I'm lazy with my mob fleet is Nana momo lala uni volga bearn meta

[sweet delta]

It's not meta

[little tree]

I ment bearn meta cv ship

Smh sushi

[whole crypt]

even with unzen, ibuki's opening is just cracked

and there's a good chance you'll throw unzen in a boss fleet instead

[marsh sparrow]

whats the generic stragetic search settings in opsi

[whole crypt]

she suffers in long fights still, mgm1 and single torp load

[stark quiver]

for what?
farming c5?

[marsh sparrow]

yes

[stark quiver]

repeat this zone yes
stop for akashi yes
never show coordinate
dont stop for siren construct
auto exchange item yes
somethings may be off, this is going off memory lol

[whole crypt]

secured repeat same zone, up to you if you want to pause for devices and scamcat

[marsh sparrow]

alr thx so much

[whole crypt]

I don't bother with exchange item

[tame orchid]

K1 didnt drop for me....?

[normal cedar]

how many bps does this give on average? I never see gold/ rainbow for plymouth/brest

[viscid swift]

At least 2

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks

[ivory pawn]

Not all logs give an exploration star.

That hidden star is for finding the Merchant twice.

[tame orchid]

Ohh, how do i know if I found it then

[ivory pawn]

Overview > Collection bottom left corner.

K will be Mystery of the Cube, as per the image you sent earlier.

[tame orchid]

Ah got it thanks

[chrome storm]

Allo, i just came back yesterday, i only have few questions

1st is, what is the fastest way to spend Oil? i have like 25k of oil in storage and 10k in reserve.

2nd is whats the best way to earn coins? yes i have Oil🦅🦅🦅, but i dont have plenty of money

3rd is Can someone explain about the storage in mail? i happen not to interact with it

Ty and have a good day

[wind hazel]

1&2 sortie at your highest campaign repeatedly, w12-4 is nice

3 it's basically your bank. claimed mail and coin from mails go into your storage, you can withdraw them at anytime

[twilit crow]

i know the game frontloads you with a bunch of cog chips, i am nearing the end of that supply, and im still running 1 ship i would not use at all long term, should i increase its lvl cap past 115 or should i wait a little and just use a better ship (its a pretty average bad off flag bb in my mob fleet which im planning to replace with saratoga retrofit or royal oak which are still under lvl 100 right now) the rest of my fleet is around 113 to 117

[wind hazel]

what ship is that

[twilit crow]

gulio cesare meta i used her because she was an off flag bb with a centered barrage but she does no damage compared to even the vanguard ships

at least compared to sandy kai (which i know is a high bar) or even san francisco

[wind hazel]

not a bad ship to go past 115, she has good tech at 120

you're already so close might as well go full 120

next time if you're unsure, you can just leave them at lv100

[twilit crow]

ok gotchu

[twilit crow]

alright thank you

[gaunt cedar]

is it bad to have 2 bbs in team

[wind hazel]

can be bad can be good

1bb 2cv is pretty standard in campaign

[dense spindle]

Is the Super Heavy Shell better than the Type 1 AP Shell?

[twilit crow]

use both

[dense spindle]

was planning to put something on Nagato to increase some damage, I already have a Type 1 AP Shell on Musashi

[twilit crow]

i think if you only have 1 then type 1 ap is better because the hit stat is important but its best have 1 type 1 ap with 1 super heavy or hpcfr

[strong tartan]

just keep it on musashi nagatos damage is lacklustre anyway so it's wasted on her

[frank pulsar]

generally ap shell > super heavy shell if you had to drop one for another aux
otherwise just use both

im late huh

[grim siren]

My usual go to Opsi fleet in mobbing, is there anything needed to replace here?

[frank pulsar]

maybe shift anchorage to one of your boss fleets if they need a better tank, otherwise its fine as is

[grim siren]

Ight thx!

[twilit crow]

is it bad that my unicorn is levelling at an insane rate compared to all my other ships because preloaded airstrike basically means automatic mvp in ht3

[crimson glacier]

thats just normal

[twilit crow]

okay, but then i have helena who i only use in boss fleet lagging behind by about 1 mil exp

lvl 112 compared to 118

oh also does sandy kai's augment skill still bug out when you use a gun under a certain reload because im pretty sure she doesnt fire a star barrage every 0.78 seconds

[dense spindle]

better to be late than never

[sweet delta]

#known-bugs message

[dense spindle]

but thanks for the answers

[whole crypt]

50 gems for 3 runs of 12-1

[vast sparrow]

Y'all where to find animated chibi gifs

[dreamy blade]

sandy is tankier than ibuki

also you have cats equipped on your mob fleet right

[whole crypt]

it's OS mobbing as long as it's not a paper defense vanguard in tank slot you'll be fine

[dreamy blade]

can confirm ibuki died main tanking when i auto'd a stronghold

[whole crypt]

is that on low adapts

[dreamy blade]

no but my mob fleet is uni+ibuki+4 ships im leveling so not exactly optimal

was like massachusetts princeton sirius aurora ~lv110

[whole crypt]

mm

hm it takes canteen about 9 days to fill up the oil soft cap

[sharp socket]

search for seseren or ask #al-general

[simple dove]

do i wanna get this thing

to get the stuff to the right of it

that being these things

[whole crypt]

you'll get enough hazemeyer/staags just keeping up research

[simple dove]

ok but where do i get this thing

[marsh sparrow]

iris techbox

[simple dove]

end me

[whole crypt]

iris gear box from shop, but don't bother crafting the french AA guns

[simple dove]

i thought i needed this thing

[paper walrus]

Is purple Q better than a gold B

[whole crypt]

you don't, USS gun is better

[simple dove]

and uss gun is?

[sterile jolt]

new rainbow

[simple dove]

wot new rainbow

[atomic abyss]

There is a new American rainbow AA gun
It's better than the french one

[simple dove]

do i need thiss then?

[sterile jolt]

"the best aa gun ever"

[whole crypt]

B is bad because it's long and I'm not sure what sort for rates it has

4hr Q will almost definitely have better gear rates

[paper walrus]

🙏

[whole crypt]

if/when you get around to crafting the rainbow gun, it's practically not important before ch15

[simple dove]

i just want to bleh

[whole crypt]

if you can afford it, I'd prioritize electronics for planes

AL is a game of patience

[simple dove]

this patience is killing me

aalso whatsthis t3 ordnance things supposed to do, havent found much use for it

[whole crypt]

crafting rainbow prototype gear in lab

[summer timber]

I am looking for the help about this month's extreme challenge.

[gaunt cedar]

what pr ship to pick in research academy? i think i know which ships are good more or less but im not sure which type of ship would be most useful to pick

[orchid cipher]

Hello, I am new to this game, is there any sources I can get help from?

[split gazelle]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/starterfleet
take a look at this

[orchid cipher]

thank you

[split gazelle]

you can always ask here if you have any other questions, plenty of smart people.

[whole crypt]

if you're new start with a ship you can actually work on

[gaunt cedar]

which one would that be

[orchid cipher]

who should I convert to by using the special general blueprint - series 7?

[whole crypt]

most newer players can only work on something from PR1 when research is unlocked, because of lack of tech points, if you're not really new and have some faction tech then Anchorage would be a good one to start with

[grand solar]

Is I-25 a good submarine? Or is she crap,because she's not a loliboat?

[whole crypt]

none of them unless you have a PR7 ship waiting for it

[orchid cipher]

ok noted

[whole crypt]

she's crap but it's got nothing to do with being a loli

[gaunt cedar]

i see thanks, i know roon and ibuki are good and i started with z23 so i have 4/7 ships for roon should i go with her

[whole crypt]

4/7 means you can't unlock her yet, this is what I meant by a ship you can actually work on

the XP grind will take a while in early game, just take one you can unlock and roll with it for now, usually Saint Louis is easy because starter fleets tend to get recommended with Portland and Helena

[gaunt cedar]

ok i got it

[grand solar]

She's not a loli and she's not anything other than a submarine, therefore she has to be crap. I mean look at the other non-loliboat Sub, Surcouf. She's complete and utter garbo, but all the best subs are loliboats.

[wind hazel]

bluegill is loli and she's trash too. logic????

[whole crypt]

if you have an opinion about their appearance vs performance go to #al-general

[steep sleet]

Is it what that you guys call event pull?

[whole crypt]

most subs tend to be loli-ish in appearance and only a small subset are actually good

[oblique canyon]

That is collection, event pull is under "build"

[whole crypt]

no that's when you build in the event's build banner

[steep sleet]

I see.

So how much cubes or coins shall we reserve to start pulling?

[grand solar]

And all the good ones are loli. All that said, I know Albacore and U-101 and Leonardo and Flashy are good. Any others I should focus on?

[summer timber]

May Extreme Challenge

[sterile jolt]

don't pull now. wait and collect cubes and coins till UR event. usual 400 cubes for UR and 250k coins or smth like that

[steep sleet]

Is there no UR in this event?

[whole crypt]

if you want to use fishpack then flasher/albacore/archerfish, best wolfpack now is 81/96/101 I think

[steep sleet]

I have like 120+ cubes and 130k coins now

[sterile jolt]

may - june

[steep sleet]

Can I manage to reach 400 cubes or 250k coins in that period? May or June?

[grand solar]

You want minimum 200 express builds, 400 cubes and 300k coins to ensure you get it.

[grand solar]

Yes.

[sterile jolt]

oh, right) thx

[steep sleet]

I see,thanks.

[grand solar]

Just do your dailies and run the 10 hour commission when you can.

[whole crypt]

you're guaranteed 168 cubes each month from fixed sources if you play daily

between now and end of the May/June event you have a bit more than a month, plus commissions will give you more cubes

[sterile jolt]

for 1200 oil? is that really worth?

[steep sleet]

Btw this is my current team with all units shown in the other pic .Shall I replace anybody ? Or how is it overall?

[grand solar]

Yes.

[tame jungle]

don't run the 1200 oil comms if you can grind

it's such a waste of oil

[steep sleet]

10h commission takes 1k oils if I remember well,is it worth it? I have like 10k+ oli now

[sterile jolt]

thats the reason why i am asking

[left cedar]

imo, is not ...
1200 oil is alot of resourcer from grind, even with 13h work dailly i still manage to burn oil ...

[grand solar]

Do it while you sleep.

[tame jungle]

don't do it while you sleep either, stop giving dented advice

[steep sleet]

[whole crypt]

being an anniversary event it'll also very likely come with a 10-pull worth of handout

[grand solar]

And why not? He's not doing anything else.

[tame jungle]

because oil does not go away if you don't use it within a day

[whole crypt]

you can spend more than you get in your uptime, there's no need to be burning during downtime

and yes it's not a time-limited resource, if anything its a time-gated resource

[sterile jolt]

you still need so much oil in the event stages

[wind hazel]

remove brooklyn, let portland tank. use laffey

[tame jungle]

pretty sure you get more xp and coin if you just use that oil to run 12-4 anyway

[sterile jolt]

or 13-4

[tame jungle]

and doing the commission, surprise surprise, doesn't give event points either!

[whole crypt]

actually you pretty much break even once you start grinding with oil cap

[steep sleet]

I generally used to do 10h commission when I was asleep,it used to take only 800 oils then,But Idk now it takes 1-1.2k oils

[whole crypt]

11 onwards is just much better XP and coin/oil

[steep sleet]

Does it refers to main campaign chapter 13 act 4?

[whole crypt]

it's a higher tier commission so to speak, after your commander level goes up, the rewards are also better for the higher costs

[grand solar]

Actually it does as one of the weeklies is related to commissions.

[tame jungle]

[wind hazel]

it's easy, if the 8-12hr commission doesn't give cubes, don't do it

[tame orchid]

Is it possible to get 400 cubes before the next UR? im at 55 now

[wind hazel]

f2p very unlikely

[tame jungle]

f2p you gotta get lucky, 💳 yes for sure

[grand solar]

Yes you can.

[tame orchid]

Damn

[whole crypt]

345 a bit of a reach, just do what you can and see if you need to swipe later

[dreamy blade]

if you no life grind almost every hour of the day while also being decently lucky it's possible yes, but not realistic

[whole crypt]

you may not even actually need pity

[wind hazel]

dont worry you will get cubes too within that 3 weeks of UR event, you will reach 400 by the end of event

[paper walrus]

Is the next event new

[grand solar]

I find spending a little bit each month on the travel pass is a worthwhile investment.

[crimson glacier]

eh is it

[whole crypt]

still a bit of a reach, I'm counting including 3 weeks of event

[dreamy blade]

only if you value the oil and coins

[tame orchid]

Ahh thanks

[steep sleet]

Portland isn't that much lvled up,can she tank well? So Portland on front left and laffey on front right and Helena on middle?

[wind hazel]

~200+ per month is average, event missions will give out cubes too, it's easily 400

[sterile jolt]

Well, if you get lucky, you can get something like that

[dreamy blade]

even if you dont hit 400 keep in mind how unlucky you have to be to actually need to hard pity 400 cubes

[wind hazel]

limit break her, she will do fine

[whole crypt]

it's one of the better dollar-resource rates, if you need it, but it needs time so it won't save you if you need a stack of cubes on short notice

[steep sleet]

How to limit break ?

[whole crypt]

we're at like 1.5 months from now till end of event

[wind hazel]

use purple bulin

[wind hazel]

yeah, so 350 cubes, plus his 50 stash

[grand solar]

Or any other copies of Portland you get.

[steep sleet]

I see.

I don't think I have any other copy of Portland yet.

[wind hazel]

ok actually maybe not 350 lul

[grand solar]

Then purple Bulins.

[atomic abyss]

Use guild shop rather than purple bulins for Portland

[steep sleet]

In which screen is the limit break Option available?

[wind hazel]

click on portland from your dock

then limit break tab

first LB at lv10, next at lv30, then lv70

[whole crypt]

it's really more like 1mth 10days from now and most of June's login stamp cubes won't apply, it's going to be a stretch, it's just regardless for him there's no option but to just ball until end of event to see if any top up is needed

[wind hazel]

just play the game and pull

[normal cedar]

how do meet the world 11 hard trp requirements? its 1700 (insanely high) and even uaing javelin laffey z23 all three doesnt give me enough trp

[warped acorn]

is rank also req to get into next rank

[wind hazel]

start investing in IJN DD and use oxytorp

[whole crypt]

more levels, enhance trp stat if not max, use oxytorp gear

[atomic abyss]

Yes, you need to be top 1000

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[warped acorn]

ah sh, this is forever then 😔

[normal cedar]

ok, will invest in ayanami and use torp aux them, thanks

[whole crypt]

make sure you clear all 15 fights everyday and as much as possible with the leftmost opponent

[warped acorn]

tried to

[oblique canyon]

There's a pin in #pvp that idk how to link since I'm a boomer, which can help you building a fleet with what you have

[honest sequoia]

Is it possible to clear OpSi map within a day without spending oil

[dreamy blade]

if scamcat blesses you extremely

[whole crypt]

early game pvp is like that check #pvp to look for tips in pins

[sterile jolt]

Just like that

[whole crypt]

clearing OS in a day is more of a time thing

[warped acorn]

alr

[whole crypt]

even if you had the AP it's going to take a while

[honest sequoia]

I have 44 blue AP boxes

[sterile jolt]

Not enough tho

[whole crypt]

not to mention you want to check in everyday for missions anyway

the 50 ap boxes you get with logger is not enough for full map clear

not to mention those boxes aren't "free" you get them from clearing anyway if you don't buy the logger

the only thing you get from logger is convenience of movement

[steep sleet]

Shall I lb to tier 3 now?

[wind hazel]

yes

limit break the ships you're using

[steep sleet]

All of them ? I have Helena,laffey ,long island, Pennsylvania and unicorn too.

Lol.I don't have enough lvl to reach t3

[wind hazel]

😭 yes because, as i said, next is lv70. just limit break whatever level they currently are accordingly

if <lv70, do LB2

if >lv69, max limit break them

[steep sleet]

Okey,thank you very much.

For now on I will go with
Front: Portland -helena -laffey
Rear:Long island- Pennsylvania -unicorn
Lineup,till I collect enough resources to summon URs.

[raw ravine]

how can I get more oilll 😦

[atomic abyss]

You don't - it's your stamina
Instead you use it better

It's perfectly normal to run out of oil early on

[whole crypt]

I'm not early on how to get more oil

[steep sleet]

Good thing I haven't yet ran out of oil once since I started

[whole crypt]

I'm almost desperate enough to move to 11-1 for XP/oil

[normal cedar]

In azur lane, are all accounts bound to end up the same way(in terms of ship collection, resources, progression, etc) over a long period of time if they follow the same basic advice? (save cubes, farm oil cap only,etc)

I was asking cuz generally for most other gacha games, there is a huge element of luck, and limited avalability of gacha resources which makes even accounts that follow the same advice, end up looking differently(for two accounts, there could be a difference in number of characters they have, the copies they have, the characters they focused on maxing out, etc)

[weary gust]

100% collection is easy for f2p to do over a long time. Main account differences will be what collabs they were present for, which gear they focused on, how active they were in opsi, and how many of their ships are geared/leveled.

Also things like dock space, dorm space, and other gem related things will differ such as what skins they own and who they oathed.

[wind hazel]

progression yes. collection differ. resources also differ by a bit but not too much

late starters are always gonna be behind

[forest palm]

Collection % is easy enough for an F2P the biggest bitch is dumpster diving the perma pool tbh

[cobalt rapids]

considering cn anni strim had like 60k ppl out of like 1m who did 15-4 i would assume 100% CR isn't owned by many

[wind hazel]

4 years and still not 100% 🥹

[forest palm]

listen that's the player's skill issue if they choose to commit to Collection %

[normal cedar]

I see
Thanks a lot for the information!

[cobalt rapids]

also its been like 5 years now without uranami

[weary gust]

Only ship I'm missing is Albion, who never had an uprated rerun and who I spent over 500 cubes on trying to get during the original event and who is now in the perma pool and there hasn't been a wishing well event since she was added

[cobalt rapids]

ww soon

[late flame]

b-but ww is a scam

[cobalt rapids]

alms for the poor

[simple dove]

what is ww

[late flame]

wishing well

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Wishing_Well
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#Wishing_Well_Construction_Rates

[warped acorn]

ht1 or 7-4 for com lv

[tame jungle]

if you're not at 55k event points yet do ht1

[vocal sandal]

what are nodes while sortieng? the 1/2/3 small triangles?

[simple dove]

doesnt drop inde, not worth it >;[

[whole crypt]

doesn't drop what?

[sinful escarp]

independence??

[whole crypt]

Independence is core shop only
Indianapolis is a shitty CA you don't need to grind for

[whole crypt]

what do you mean?

[tame jungle]

the 1-3 small triangles denote a small/medium/large fleet, with larger fleets being harder to beat than smaller fleets
"nodes" are just interactable elements on the map, i.e. enemy nodes, ammo nodes

[whole crypt]

large nodes more xp

[royal anvil]

Should I speed up my pr ship research or save the speed up things

[forest palm]

you never use Combat Data Packs on the Ship, you Analyze them for Protocores

[warped acorn]

this good?

[forest palm]

it's usable, but 2 of the talents aren't all that desirable

[normal cedar]

what dev level is halford usable? I was thinking of developing her after anchorage is finished next monday
I have around 30 bp for her

[atomic abyss]

...30
But she's the worst research ship in the game

By a significant amount too

[forest palm]

Halford is worse than the Starters imo

[normal cedar]

damn, worst ship yet still needs 30

[tame jungle]

don't bother with halford for now, she was already one of the weaker PR ships but has been completely destroyed by a change to how her planes work

[atomic abyss]

Almost all research ships need 30 to be usable lol

[normal cedar]

you told me plymouth doesnt tho

[tame jungle]

and he said almost, not all

[atomic abyss]

Before 30 she's just another buffer
And is usable as that

She's not a broken menace till 30

[forest palm]

Halford has a very weak kit on top of being bugged

also she relies on Sea Planes which are the worst kind of Planes

[atomic abyss]

If you really want a research DD for some reason

Felix

[vocal sandal]

oh ok

[atomic abyss]

If you can't get her, kitakaze

Or just ignore them entirely

[normal cedar]

Nah, I dont need them, just something to keep developing rather than not
Thanks a lot
ig ill unlock some pr 1 or 2 ships then till I get enough ib or hms pts then

[atomic abyss]

That would be my recommendation too

All series 1 ships save Monarch have gotten their augments
So they're pretty strong now

[forest palm]

[simple dove]

what are things that i would need from the gear lab

[vocal sandal]

can we not buy dr blueprints daily?

[forest palm]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[simple dove]

yeah thanks

are you uh sure this is readable

[forest palm]

if the DR is coinable, you should be able to

[forest palm]

open in browser

[vocal sandal]

are all drs and prs are coinable right

[atomic abyss]

Far from it

Azuma, FdG, Drake, Hakuryuu and Agir are the only coinable rainbows

All research ships from series 6 and 7 are not coinable

[vocal sandal]

oh, alright. so i should ideally be saving up the general blueprints for these ships?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[simple dove]

so do i want this or

[forest palm]

not the highest of priorities, you'll want them eventually but it's not an immediate need

[simple dove]

well pretty much no rainbow ive ever encountered so far is an immediate need

[forest palm]

cause rarity isn't necessarily everything in this game

[simple dove]

ye but still, i feel like at least one has to be an immediate need

im approaching w13 aand i got nothin but a handful of the stuff tech boxes have handed me down and unzen's gun which i conveniently have for some reason

[elfin hollow]

Are the ship in this event worth getting guys

[worthy pike]

is the pink haired girl good

the one you can get for free with the flowers

i mean im going to get her regardless because i have nothing but i wanted to know how good she is

[atomic abyss]

Yes, but not worth using cubes for if you don't have at least 600

[atomic abyss]

If free, always very good to get
She's a good gold BB, so very useful for a new player
For older players, they have UR BBs so not as useful

[tame orchid]

How many of these do i need

[mild sail]

W13? Just use the mk6 406mm

[icy cave]

Can someone link the website they use to calculate plane syncs?

[wind hazel]

like 2-3, it's luxury

more of a want than need

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[icy cave]

thanks

[tame orchid]

Ah 2 should be fine then

[hardy creek]

For ur exchange, is it better to get a duplicate of ur that you already have or get a new one?

[plain saffron]

1 maxed UR better than multiple LB 0 UR

unless the one you have is low priority one i guess

[hushed sorrel]

if you aim for collection and the small benefits of having a bigger collection you would choose new ones. gamplay wise its like you were already told from A.S.E.

[quick grotto]

Do ships pushed past 100 but not yet at limit afterwards fuel the Lecture Hall?

[plain saffron]

as long as 100 or above

[quick grotto]

Gotcha, gotcha.

[plain saffron]

iirc also need to be MLB

but idr if META and UR needs that

[quick grotto]

Eh, the only ship I have approaching that is my Javelin, so it'll be fine.

[marsh sparrow]

whats the total exp count from lv100 to lv125 ships

[hardy creek]

Ah alright, shinano is good right out of the ur pool? I got her

[marsh sparrow]

yup,she pretty good but only perform well on full lmb

[marsh sparrow]

will 4.11m xp achievable in a week if I do 12-1 everyday?

[atomic abyss]

For a singular ship?

Hahahahahaha no

[hushed delta]

Can Bearn Meta reach the boss if equipped with a CL gun?

[marsh sparrow]

i mean three ship total xp combined

[atomic abyss]

No
Never give her one

[hushed delta]

oh okay thx

[atomic abyss]

For research then I assume
Very possible
3 mil can be done within 24h with sufficient switching

Probably 2-3 days for 4.2 if you constantly grind

[marsh sparrow]

i see

[atomic abyss]

I'm assuming you mean 4 mil earned in total

And not 4 mil per ship

[marsh sparrow]

yup,Im doing Fdg xp mission

[atomic abyss]

(it's 3.6m for her)

[forest palm]

you can easily farm 3.6m collectively in a day, easily so with Main Fleet ships

[plain saffron]

shinano good, get more of her until MLB

[royal anvil]

When is the next ur event?

[forest palm]

potentially Late May

[whole crypt]

you can farm 3.6M in a day but I won't say easily

[hardy creek]

I've been told that San Diego is a good anti aircraft ship, how does the new De Zeven provincien compare with her? I'm contemplating focusing on one of the two first

[whole crypt]

San Diego is better but takes more investment

[slow fox]

In terms of only AA, De Zeven outperforms San Diego.

[crimson glacier]

how

[slow fox]

San Diego scales higher, but De Zeven possesses a high enough total AA efficiency that San Diego ALMOST catches up.

Almost.

[normal cedar]

so shes at number 2 after guam for aa? or number 1 only for AA ie

[honest sequoia]

Idk I’d say warspite the best AA and shelling BB as of today

[crimson glacier]

is that including the fleet buff or no

i just dont think anything matches the fleet buff

[slow fox]

Only selfbuffs.

I calculated:

AAMod * TotalEff

for each ship, determining the multiplier onto the AA gun for total alpha damage during one AA burst.

Phrasing ambiguous: Buffs that buff the fleet also buff self.

[atomic abyss]

D7P comes close or matches San Diego in AA
But she doesn't match San Diego in any other area

San Diego should absolutely be the first investment

[last zenith]

is helena retrofit good?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, but her retrofit does little to improve on her already amazing base kit
Good, but low priority

[last zenith]

k

[normal cedar]

there was like an aa list similar to ehp list I think, can someone please link it

[atomic abyss]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/htmlview#gid=0

I hope you realise the calcs are not very useful out of context

[normal cedar]

yeah, thanks!
just was interested to see the calcs

[cobalt rapids]

what does sandy scale higher mean ?

[atomic abyss]

My guess is that it's an enty situation
Scales better with gear

[hollow gust]

Isn't even best aa

[slow fox]

Yes, she scales better with (the damage that) gear (provides).

Her AAMod is higher.

[normal cedar]

whats the solution to not using unicorn on mob for 12-1 when grinding vanguard levels? I remember being told you dont actually need healers at 12-1

[cobalt rapids]

safe, good gear, lvls

not all ships are the same, weaker ships need stronger compensation

[hardy creek]

Are there anyway to get more of the exp books besides season missions?

[cobalt rapids]

use lv100 ships when grinding
lecture hall is main income

[normal cedar]

I see, got it! So you grind 9-1/11-1 till they get to 100 or just feed them books till 100?

I assume for 12-1 we need lv 100 ships? Atleast mine were dying before hitting 100

[little tree]

Is 12 1 on safe ?

[sweet delta]

Feed books,don't grind lower than 12.
If you need 100 with your level of gear and ships then you need 100.

[little tree]

Also just use a level boss fleet to guarantee boss win thats what I do

[normal cedar]

Yes its on safe
Yeah, my boss fleet is all 120
Thanks a lot, Ill test out if putting higher level, good gear ships on mob can compensate for absence of unicorn

[wind hazel]

just have some AA

[little tree]

You could also just use uni if you have to level low level ships

~~ I doubt your unicorn is at exp cap yet

[forest palm]

[normal cedar]

is it worth buying tuning from opsi shop, or does the map alone give you enough to get to 7

[cobalt rapids]

more than enough

[whole crypt]

secured maps always have at least one node that gives you adapts so you just need to keep grinding

[normal cedar]

alright, thanks, I can for gold materials first in shop then

[wind spindle]

anybody having issues with the game today? i keep getting disconnected. At first i thought it was an issue with Bluestacks at first. but even on my phone I get disconnected

[tame jungle]

all good on my end

[forest palm]

the game's net code can be rather spotty

[normal cedar]

whats the purpose of giving a bb an evasion aux? is it just me or this user's gear looks kinda weird

[forest palm]

nothing those builds are ass

[viscid swift]

That's because most people are idiots

[gaunt cedar]

what do i get with 80 medals from shop i think people usually get enterprise but shes not there now and i dont have single cv

[forest palm]

what's in your shop right now?

just list the hull types

[gaunt cedar]

san diego, belfast, sirius, dido, dido nano

[atomic abyss]

It is extremely bad
Btd is a shit dive bomber
Twin 380 is one of the worst possible BB guns

[forest palm]

so, CL + CV correct?

[gaunt cedar]

im not sure how to check ship type in shop

[forest palm]

in the medal shop it should just say the hull types

[gaunt cedar]

sr cl?

[viscid swift]

What's the other

[gaunt cedar]

sr ss

[viscid swift]

Yeah
Cl means light Cruiser and SS means submarines

[gaunt cedar]

so im cooked?

[forest palm]

Sandy is a good pick up

[split gazelle]

did you finish your newcomer missions already?

[gaunt cedar]

no im on hard currently

[weary gust]

That's the average player's level of gearing and why they only do 200k to the METAs.

[clear harbor]

My Unicorn hit 120. I use her in my mob fleet to keep everyone healthy. Is there another common "healer" for new players that I can roatat in? Do I awaken Uni to push to 125? Or just keep using her at max level?

[atomic abyss]

You flat out don't use healers for grinding for this reason

[forest palm]

until you run out of things to grind in the main fleet

[atomic abyss]

You'll want to push her to 125 eventually

Use uni regardless if you're pushing content

If not, you may want to look into removing her

[sweet delta]

200k is mighty optimistic

[sweet delta]

Shouhou is easy to get and also good for tech

[clear harbor]

You'll want to push her to 125 eventually
Use uni regardless if you're pushing content
If not, you may want to look into removing her
Just farming the Event for now and back to W9 until I hit commander level 80 (?) so I can start W10.

Shouhou is easy to get and also good for tech
Oh cool. I think I already have her.

[forest palm]

pretty sure most all healers have good 120 tech

[vale spindle]

yes not sure about percy tho

[forest palm]

+2 Avi

[vale spindle]

ok is good

[forest palm]

all I can really think of is Ryuuhou, Shouhou, Percy, and Uni

[clear harbor]

Also, regarding BB guns (or other ship, too) how much does it matter how many shots a gun fires in a salvo when comparing two against one another?

Or do other factors matter more, like firing speed or ammo type?

[atomic abyss]

Zuihou was rld

[forest palm]

oh, right she exists

[atomic abyss]

Doesn't matter as much as the actual damage dealt and rof

Twin guns fire faster than triples etc

But the overall DPS is the concern

[forest palm]

which is why when mobbing you end up with a 457

[atomic abyss]

You want faster guns in mobbing to stagger shots

[stark quiver]

Zuihou is +2 hit

[atomic abyss]

Them being twin or triple or quadruple is largely irrelevant

The fastest BB gun is the triple 283

Even tho the fastest actually good BB guns are the twin mounted ones cos of their rof and dmg
Twin 457, twin 410

[clear harbor]

Is DPS (or damage so I can calculate DPS) shown in the UI?

[atomic abyss]

I glossed over ammo type because that's a different can of worms

[forest palm]

you can achieve stagger as long as the ships involved don't have a similar RLD

[clear harbor]

I suppose ammo type depends on the enemies I'm facing.

[atomic abyss]

It's not in an accurate way
Dmg and rof is

I'll be honest

You're better off memorising which guns are good

Rather than trying to understand it from in game

Because there are important stats with gears that aren't shown in game, like coefficient

[clear harbor]

Yeah, I've been trying to reference the guide. But I'm trying to figure out what's best with what I have.

Maybe I just need to spend more time looking at the guide for poverty options.

[atomic abyss]

If you're asking yourself that question
You likely do not have better than the 2 purple BB guns

The triple 406mm mk6

And the twin 410mm mounted

(yes you should look at poverty options)

[clear harbor]

I appreciate you all's patience. I find priority charts in the guide a bit overwhelming. Been slowly trying to digest it.

[vale spindle]

The thing is if you are poor you ignore ammo types and just use the good purple ones listed regardless of ammo type

because if you are poor you aren't at the point where ammo types matter significantly

[forest palm]

armor type and their weaknesses can be viewed as a suggestion rather than a necessity

[clear harbor]

Oh okay, that simplifies things for me greatly.

[forest palm]

only time you truly have to worry about Ammo Types and Armor Types is high end bosses so like Meta, CM, Arbiter, Campaign(typically much later in), Abyssal

[honest sequoia]

Is twin 410 preferred over fdg gun mainly cuz it cost lower to upgrade?

[atomic abyss]

See, the fundamental issue is, how does one get the FdG gun to begin with

You have to had consciously made the effort to go out of your way to get it

In gear lab, or for some godforsaken reason, PR2

[honest sequoia]

So if I have fdg gun should I use it or still use twin 410

[atomic abyss]

A normal player that started in the last 2-3 years wouldn't have gotten one naturally

The FdG gun has the advantage of going to +13, but it's strongly not recommended

[honest sequoia]

Oh I meant for my own mb

[atomic abyss]

You're better off upgrading the twin 410 to twin 410 kai (also purple)

And using that

The FdG gun was only better primarily due to base FP and slightly higher dmg

If you already have the FdG gun at +10
Might as well use it
You won't be using it for anything actually challenging ofc

[honest sequoia]

Yea I have 1 at +10 but should I get like 2 more or just use the twin 410/ 410 kai

[atomic abyss]

You want 1x 410 Kai for Musashi

[honest sequoia]

She has a twin kai at +11

[atomic abyss]

Then you need 0 more of either

For non Musashi BBs, their best choice for mobbing is the 457

FdG gun doesn't appear anywhere at all

If there's a light armour boss to counter, the mk6 is flat out better

[honest sequoia]

I can’t do that on abyssal with that 20s counter 😭

[atomic abyss]

That's why we have fire control radar

[honest sequoia]

Except using double barrel with fcr

[atomic abyss]

You don't need double barrel with fcr tho

[honest sequoia]

A triple barrel + fcr is enough to counter the 20s mark?

[atomic abyss]

Well not all your shells may clear the 20s mark but yes

Also Helena retro can be synced up with 20s guns using fcr

Don't forget you have cats and bb rld tech

[honest sequoia]

That’s what I’m gonna say
At some Xs mark it will do 0 dmg but not all the way only
I find double barrel + fcr counters the 20s better
Or do I not have enough bb rld tech + cats

[atomic abyss]

Or you could just brute force it like most of us do

Multiple fleets exist for a reason

Well

If you are truly having trouble clearing them

Throw 457s
Use the 410 kai

[whole crypt]

UR BB fleet 125 should clear 20s fine with radar

personally if you ask me the easiest way to do it if you don't make the 20s check is to just manual around it

[stark quiver]

kill it b4 20s

[quick grotto]

Man, grinding OpSi mats feels like it takes forever.

[tame jungle]

better get used to it

[tame orchid]

Where do yall get the AP from im always running out

[normal cedar]

buy using oil smh

[tame jungle]

no need

opsi is an exercise in patience

[ivory pawn]

Just farm c1.

[pale mason]

whats the best use for my t3 ordnances? i have like 14

i looked at the wiki and there's only like 4 uses: tenrai, spearfish, triple 234, twin 457

[stark quiver]

what do you have rn in terms of UR gear

[pale mason]

if theres other UR gear i should be crafting from the gear lab lmk as well since i have 20 general rainbow prints

[sweet delta]

a 457 and a spearfish

and twin 76 UR AA gun

[pale mason]

ok will do ty

[stark quiver]

just wondering, why do ppl say to not use selectors on 76s

[sweet delta]

what ppl say that

[pale mason]

just one of each of the ones you mentioned right? i could make 2 of the AAs

[stark quiver]

i forgot who 💀
but i vaguely remembering seeing it

[stark quiver]

well how much electronics do you have

[sweet delta]

2 eagle union AAs is also ok, but a third wyvern is also an option

[pale mason]

300 ish

been a fat minute since i made anything, just farmed for months

[stark quiver]

id take a wyvern first

[pale mason]

maybe i'll have enough for both, i'll get on crafting them

[stark quiver]

457 is 68 elec
wyvern is 78/51 depending on the route u rate
eagle aa is 81 elec
spear is 20
so js plan accordingly

[pale mason]

ah damn i ran out of rainbow prints but not electronics, guess i'll do another AA later. thanks for the help

[stark quiver]

yea looks fine

[hushed delta]

I'm about to start w15, should I buy another french AA gun or the new eagle AA gun?

[stark quiver]

new eagle AA gun is better in almost every way

[sweet delta]

nobody but diehard Brest or french faction gear fans should craft twin 57 nowadays

[pale mason]

are there any ships that get bonuses from equipping a french AA

[hushed delta]

nice thx 😄

[stark quiver]

breast

[pale mason]

lol k

[stark quiver]

brest*

[hushed delta]

and mogador

[inner idol]

How good is zeven? Is she worth building? Gear wise

[hushed delta]

zeven is bazinga good

[stark quiver]

shes a top AA ship and thats about it

[inner idol]

Oh cool

[stark quiver]

if you have the preexisting AA options, laff2,guam,sandy, etc
then she probbaly wont fit into any comps

[inner idol]

Oof

[stark quiver]

i mean shes collection and +1 cl reload at 120 if you care abt that

[hushed delta]

she's research points for the next Tulipa Pr, trust the plan

[atomic abyss]

in all seriousness, even if there were a tulipa PR for next season, i highly doubt they'll use tulipa points

[hushed delta]

yeah I was not being serious

[atomic abyss]

gascogne didnt use french tech because, there were very little french ships at the time

iirc, it was literally just JB and dunk for backliners
later gas mu

same applied to champy btw

[hushed delta]

same with marco polo, ain't it

[atomic abyss]

yep

[little tree]

Is this an okay poverty setup

[sweet delta]

You're in core data poverty?

[little tree]

Yes

[sweet delta]

👍

[little tree]

I know I need snorkel

[atomic abyss]

pressure hull

[little tree]

Whats that

[worldly pewter]

are u skipping doing ur hard stages ?

[atomic abyss]

aux that makes subs move further forward

very very useful to get more dmg

[pale mason]

a different sub aux, can also buy from the core data shop

[atomic abyss]

frankly

[little tree]

I do w11 hard im lazy in 3 staring w 13

[atomic abyss]

if you're under core shortage

[stark quiver]

dont even need 3* bruh

[atomic abyss]

you prolly lacking the stuff to clear w14+ anyways

[little tree]

I'm on w15 4

[worldly pewter]

i still didn't 3☆ the h13 what are u on smartest gph user ?

[atomic abyss]

then you've been using your core on something stupid

[pale mason]

as someone who has been super unoptimally farming w9 hard stages every day (too lazy to even go higher since it requires manual battling), i somehow have a surplus of coredata still

[little tree]

I have 800 I can buy one thing i have 3 subs

[atomic abyss]

what have you even been spending the core data on

[little tree]

The torped bombers the breguet

[atomic abyss]

you've been gloriously scammed then

[pale mason]

like idek what to use it on, any ideas? buying ships i dont have yet? idk
i already bought all the priority gear needed

[atomic abyss]

they're not bad but like

nowhere are they higher priority

[little tree]

What sub item do i get with my 800 core data

[atomic abyss]

hull

[pale mason]

you at least have these right?

[little tree]

3 of each

[pale mason]

ok cool lmao i was a little worried for a sec

[little tree]

Well only 2 black they are not used that much

[atomic abyss]

independence?

[little tree]

I have indpedance

[worldly pewter]

preparing for w16 ?

[little tree]

Now trying to bear 15 4

Beat* without rng reset

[pale mason]

yeah haven't bought her yet, wasnt sure if she'd see much use but i might as well start buying ships for collection

[worldly pewter]

oh i thought u finished it

[atomic abyss]

indep would see a lot of use

[little tree]

No cleared it once

[worldly pewter]

i also cleared it once

[pale mason]

ok i'll go buy her and start building her then. ive just been autopilot gaming with UR ships so never really considered using SRs ngl

[sweet delta]

3 black white, independence, and breguet should only be like 4 months of new player core data

[atomic abyss]

well there isnt any UR CV that has a staggered airstrike (except URmagi with foxes)

[little tree]

I might miss hard mode sometimes

[atomic abyss]

that is more than just sometimes

[worldly pewter]

i think smartest gph user was a little bit inconsistent on his hard stages

[sweet delta]

It gives cube

[little tree]

[hushed delta]

Is +13'ing an AA gun relevant? do they do more damage or it's just for the opsi bonus?

[sweet delta]

They do more AA damage too

[little tree]

~~ shhh they don't need to know ~~~

[sweet delta]

+13 does 18% more damage than +10 like other weapons

[hushed delta]

thx gummy, new video when

[sweet delta]

10 minutes ago

[quick grotto]

So can I just not get this piece anymore?

[sweet delta]

Correct

[atomic abyss]

it is event limited

[pale mason]

what use does staggered airstrikes give? i don't know much about enemy mechanics

[quick grotto]

Man, it seems like a lot of the best gear I just can't get.

[pale mason]

they gave them twice during events in the past year iirc so you can probably count on them coming again

[quick grotto]

Ah I see.

[clear harbor]

Oops, I haven't been buying black shells yet. That can be corrected.

[quick grotto]

Btw, is it worth upgrading a purple gun using gold parts, or save the gold parts for actually gold guns?

[sweet delta]

start with 3 white and 2 black before moving on to other stuff and the third black

[atomic abyss]

in campaign, staggered attacks are better
think of it this way
campaign have multiple waves of enemies
lets say i have 2 carriers launching attacks at 20s
when one strikes, kills all the enemies, the other will likely hit just the water since enemies need time to spawn back in
this wouldnt be an issue if one was 17s, one was 20s

[atomic abyss]

dont use gold parts if you dont know what you're doing
just save all of them

[sweet delta]

depends on the gun, but Twin 410 kai is the only +11 purple gun if you have musashi and not many other UR BBs

[pale mason]

oh thats what you meant by staggered airstrikes? i thought you meant like her own airstrikes themselves had like multiple waves or smth

yeah that makes sense though

[quick grotto]

Makes sense, this is just a purple torpedo so probably not then.

[sweet delta]

Certainly not

[pale mason]

you should be able to get access to gold quad mag torps pretty fast if you keep getting and opening gear boxes, those are good to use

[quick grotto]

Bro I have the worst luck with those I swear to God.

I've opened like three gold parts and they were from rainbow boxes lol

But then I also got Perseus after ten minutes of learning who she was. So maybe it's a karmic balance at some point.

[atomic abyss]

it's a good thing a lot of good poverty gear arent gold right

[pale mason]

have you been following the new player guide?

[quick grotto]

Not to a T, mostly just the tier list and the do nots.

[pale mason]

good enough, just know that it exists and take their tips yeah
make sure to make use of their recommended fleets and gear and you'll push campaign easy

[atomic abyss]

tierlist is pretty useless for a new player tbh...

[quick grotto]

I mean it tells you what ships to be on the lookout for.

[atomic abyss]

not really

the fundamental issue is that a new player shouldnt be gacha-ing

[sweet delta]

And Perseus isn't one of them

[pale mason]

your first ship acquired should honestly be unicorn

[sweet delta]

Because Unicorn is a bit better while being guaranteed and costing different materials

[quick grotto]

Imagine my surprise when a new player gachas in a gacha game lmao.

I have both of them, Unicorn and Perseus.

[atomic abyss]

hence why new player guide is important to follow

[hushed delta]

those torps and magnet quads are basically the same, just a bit more dmg, same fire rate

[sweet delta]

According to my research, the normal quad mags are 14% to 23% worse than improved quad mags

[pale mason]

gacha in this game feels way different from gacha in other games
paying $$$ for pulls is really not efficient since you need to buy gold as well (so you're better off just farming gold)
and dupes aren't needed since you can get dupes for free over time

[atomic abyss]

azur lane is a resource managament game disguised as a gacha game

[hushed delta]

by a "bit more dmg" I was just trying to cheer the person up about missing them :p

[sweet delta]

~~It's not a booba management game? ~~

[quick grotto]

Listen I saw voluptuous plant lady and I got her, I see no error.

[pale mason]

well you could argue every gacha game is a resource management simulator but azur lane is even more so since you really don't have FOMO and feel the need to swipe to pull. only thing you'd feel the urge to spend is on skins and/or dock space ngl