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her aug is arguably more important than her retro
personally i've never used her either ~_~
napoli fs5 + aug when
Are there any other alternatives to Laffey II then?
for what?
W15
agir fs5 when
royal fortune augment when
How many DR BP is From Dev Lv30 to FS V?
215
/devbp
Thnx
if you want ch15 advice start thread and post what you have, ch15 was cleared before guam/laffey II/eldridge retrofit were added but we need to know if you have the ships needed
Napoli if anything competes with Agir
Alright
Napoli is better than Agir for campaign
I forget how complicated some of this stuff is compared to the average gacha game
agir is due to get fs5 sometime soon isnt she
What due
For all you know we get a Brest FS5 first
DR fate sims have no pattern
FdG got hers after Drake and Azuma lol
we get brest fs5? 
I know you can't spell chicken jockey correctly, but surely you can read better
tbh i hope it isnt anything like anchorage fs5
is this really true tho
well she's pr4 and its been like 3 years or something so fs soon 
well ch15 is practically current endgame
Tbh mori
agir give armour break, which is nice. napoli is really just good at surviving lol
so not yet I guess then
Both are just, not the best in end game campaign
Based on my dock, I suppose the next ship I'll raise is vanguard, yes? I have like 36k spec core, still enough for mlb the next ur ship
Or just wait a bit until the next ur revealed?
Aight 
Agir has no good secondaries
So she isn't good at dealing with production
On the other hand she can lob shields
At the same time Napoli has smokes that contribute to vanguard bulk
She has ghost secondaries from her skill
She can't lob shields
Is Napoli better than Aegir and Hindenburg?
with those 2 UR its likely one is point accumulation and the other construction
hindenburg isnt a tank
Equal to if not better than Agir
Hindenburg is a DPS and not a tank
At the end, both are heavy armour and don't do as well in w14/15
With that said
Is slaimuda dead?
It's no longer dead, took 5 months to revive
But it's still not relevant for anything actually difficult
it has become undead
Just slow? Havent seen De zeven on its active Events
Whats good resource to use?
/tierlist
Ship Tier Lists
Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.
🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum
use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs
The end game one

Actually tiers things for relevant content
Anything else is too easy you can pretty much unga bunga
Is Z52 relevant?
Extremely
What makes her good
We talking about a DD with similar DPS and support capabilities to Plymouth (which is one of the best in the game)
While also being quite tanky and top few at AA
In other words, she's good at basically everything
Well shit that’s great
@keen owl ^
You said that z52 was “one of the best” what is THE best in the game, hands down the undisputed #1 ship girl in all of azur lane
nowaki
kent
LMAO
mutsuki
There isnt one
plymouth obviosly
actually subjective yeah
Even from an objective standpoint, best depends on the content
unicorn is the best cvl atleast
but z52 is arguably one of the most complete vanguard ship
whos up next for catchup event, the one where we get 30 additional bp
and id say musashi is the best bb even if she isnt the best for meta battle stuff
is it not in order, i see
Musashi is flat out the best campaign BB
Could having more then one musashi in campaign be viable
and pvp uh i mean exercise
And if we go by campaign then sandy is best cl
Is there a new gun for musashi or is it still that purple?
lets not do memes here
Yes, but an exercise in futility
viable but not recommended
Still the purple kai yeah
410 Kai or Daisen gun
there is the daisen gun now for AP but still the purple 410 for HE
AP seems to be less consistent for mobbing though
is it normal for my opsi to freeze for a little bit?
its reset now so
What
rightfully should be maintenance but hey
Well for Musashi yes that is a fair argument
Cos the Daisen gun isn't exactly high rof
what should you not do to not lose all the opsi stuffs?
Not leave opsi
can I do meta fights for example?
once you leave opsi map byeeee
I can change zones tho right
Don't risk it
im scared, this is the first time I do this
why do you need to change zones, just keep doing strategic search
I have like 2 strongholds
ripbozo
lol gg
aint no way chat
No cap
yes
and thats why i buy logger and dump all AP into strategic search while i sleep at beginning of the month
You can but the risk is high
nah it's fine, i stayed like 7 hours in opsi before
should I buy 1 wisdom cube for 2k merits?
One good disconnect and you fucked
200 meta showdown chip not worth it I guess
your daily limit still reset
This is kinda your fault really
im not aware of anything about strongholds being more prone to disconnects or anything
you don't lose the daily 200 meta coords
It's not about that card
The fact is, why would you risk the chance of a disconnect and complete loss by leaving it till the last minute
if you were capped 200 coords before starting then after youre done and leave just use them and you can do more opsi to get the daily 200
I got terrorized by ender 
You had 3 days to clear the final stronghold
it's ok i believe in you, you can do it. 4500 ap to go
well at least you didnt put off arbiter 
so changing zone or not doesn't change the risk
just don't clear OS on the last damn day of the month
nah I have 2.5k now after using all of them to clear all hidden zones
it's fine today is holiday so no hotfixes
omg true
ty china
i cant take it anymore 💔
Im never getting sandy or kazagumo
Do I just get shoukaku and zuikaku now?
if you need them sure
your 100% to get CL aged like milk
ryuuhou has better tech
Uh, how was your tech situation for ironblood
i need to retract my statement last night too. sandy isn't easily obtainable 💀
theres no kms cv in the shop is there
technically sandy can be easily obtained if rookie mission reward resets
oh yeah, big
Anyways illustrious is still a better grab than zui/shou
Ironblood is fine, I have 220 now but I havent started to mlb any IB ships yet
Sakura is a major problem, I only have 150 tech for sakura
I think they'll flat out change it lol
Get shoukaku then

alright then, thanks
you can do alot better the shou
I mean from medal shop...?
We're quite literally scraping the bottom of the barrel with the options there
well considering a newer player there is also the skip option
He needs Sakura tech
is the op si data logger permanent ?
once per month
1x use per opsi monthly reset
works for the whole month too
so if get the 5k oil one i dont need the hidden zone logger ?
You need both
If you want to auto hidden zone, you need the hidden zone logger
stronghold* logger when
except when fog decides to troll you
Just say fog you to the fog and move on
i lowkey wanna stack 4 strongholds and not care about it lol
speaking of that it just happened to me right now
Better fog than getting cucked due to bad rng
just don't auto
What's the general consensus on how to spend plates: big ticket UR gear like Tenrais or gold auxes/torp bombers?
The latter
Because you can upgrade more of them
Gotcha, so I guess follow up to that since I messed up my question: most of my gold stuff is at +12, should I up it to 13 or start on my UR gear?
Either you +13 or you leave it at +10 entirely
The biggest jump is from +13
Not +11 or +12
Is the corrosion level of classified files logger decided randomly? I have 4800 vouchers, should I get 6 of them
I didn't have the plates to max them when I did it but now I'm swimming in them. Guess I'll get them all to 13 ty
Can the DDGs freely switch between Main Fleet and Vanguard mode?
If so which DDG is best for Vanguard and which for Main Fleet?
all ddgs should stay as vanguard only
They are noticeably worse as main fleet
I see
can you leave and enter file zones freely like strongholds or can't like abyssal?
Any suggestions for what to finish off/work on next before I start dumping All plates? Have about 5 URs and 15 gold worth of specialized
I feel dumb for all the +12s now
the classified file ones? pretty sure they just reset if you leave, no XP or loot besides clearing anyway
in game considers much less things than my calc does (u can click the cooldown number and itll tell you where that 0.2s comes from)
(and yeah like you found out after in-game doesnt include cats)
finish +13 La9
i dont see any ju87
why
I have them, just keep running out of plane plates
and where are the BB guns
good start is
FIinish your +12
1skyraider
2La-9
2 tenrais
2 of Saiun Ryuusei Junker VitChange
2-4 Hvar
ok im blind and i assume the champy are already 13
2 champy +13 and 1 uh slightly faster champy (forgot the name) +12
flandre? it's fine your soyuz already +13
2 of each torp bomber to +13?
but yeah start with la9 and these
my plates are about to disappear
do TB before the tenrai
So get both my LA9s to 13 then 2 of each torp then Tenrai?
depends on how many plates you have left after the TBs lol
like if you cant finish everything, maybe it's wiser to do 1 tenrai+2 hvar or something
just do the La9 and TBs first, they are the most used
I only have about 500 all so that second LA9 is going to take over half of that
I think i can squeeze that. Thank you guys. I'm guessing my Auxes are fine/irrelevant for now?
you should be running amagi shinano implacable
actually might not need to max saiuns
it's been awhile since I've changed up my opsi fleets but I think i finally have enough ships, anything I should change?
shinano replace haku

My shinano is 1LB
k nvm show your ships first
Too late now lol. 2 of each TB, 1 LA9, not enough plates for a tenrai
Opsi fleets
wait i actually cooked with that comp
are you sure
That's implac flag innit
yeah 1 goes in the middle
how do you set 1 at top wtf
defualt for lars
my 1 is at mid 
its not really "default"
what is this fleet for?
for pvp
its just that if your screen only fits one column of ships it shows them chronologically instead of as formation would
(which you can manage using the various compact mode and scaling settings)
not for you
pretty mid vs heavy and medium
-# i can cross that bingo now
not even optimized in either of them
were you trying to give food poisoning with that cooking
serenity actually correct for once
*always
Its perfectly fine for medium and heavy

la9 vs heavy on ship that can equip torps bomber is pretty 
serenity back to wrong again 😭
he doesn't know because pvp players don't use CVs
What did I say about a broken clock
Why doesn't Amagi want the LA9? Sync?
That's the argument here
There is an argument to be made for la9 over tenrai against heavy or med
It's basically DB accuracy vs rocket accuracy
assuming average hit rate tenrai just barely wins tho
i ran ran both when i finally maxed my la-9, preferred the la-9
For heavy or med?
heavy
So med it's outright better then
yeah
Are the bottom two planes any useful
left no, right yes
what meta was december?
i mean im not really contesting you anyway grey
rockets are going to be far more consistent either way due to how DB works
Wasnt it metato moving to maihou?
Or am I misremembering
then i guess it maihou
Both are heavy anyways
cause amagi came out with meta and she was instant meta
la-9/ double vit 2 was busted on her
as with shinano build, pretty sure torps are still better due to amagi buff
Yes
so yes i cooked here
, +13 2 la-9s is a good idea anyway
i was gaslitted by fucking serenity and mori
cook deez
So is this fine?
who do I believe anymore
they both work
i mean both are kinda overkill against arby
Well i don't have a third +13 ryusei for Mori comp so greygoose it is I guess
but mori runs 3 Ryuuseis and weaker TBs on the most important slots
didnt optimize, just wanted to meet timing
well no sane person is gonna have 6 +13 Vits
unless?

@ serenity
i just run amagi 1a-9 2 vit2s , then sync eveything around that
how high of level ships is recommended before swapping to hard mode in this event for farming?
huh?
within the enemy level
you can clear event hard with a fleet of lvl80s if thats what you want
ofc worse gear means you should have 10-20 level buffer
i've been farming normal the 3rd levels boss with 2 ships to try and be oil effecient but i think hard mode gives more currency
unless you are a fat boomer with basically all ships done, you should always run full fleet in oil cap
i don't have oil cap unlocked i'm only on chapter 7 in the story
event has oil cap unlock, it doesnt matter
The last event map has oil cap
Opsi reset and I have shop voucher tickets, around 6k, what's priority on purchase
if you are that new then you should definetly run full fleet
cause ill bet my account you arent running stuff like lmb0 ranger-downes with strong cross fleet
i've only been playing about a month so far
cause 3-4 oil is the only way its worth grinding normal
You have a lot of ships that need exp so use a full fleet
Just curious what would you suggest is a strong cross fleet if someone was looking to do this.
why do i want independence again
cause lmb0 ranger and downes are weak as fuck
Really good mob fleet CVL with preload
Not preload
Sorry yeah fast air strike
good enough reason
partial load, like half the airstrike duration reduction
Reduced first strike cool down
Gacha URs like musashi soyuz alsace
Basically extremely strong
Can buff fleets shes not in
Ah okay
But since I'm assuming you don't have them then really anything you have is better than nothing, like independence or w/e
/crossfleet
so do i want the three pairs of shells firsst or inde
Opsi reset and I have just under 6k tickets for shop. what's priority on purchase?
3 pairs
what do i put those three pairs on
Tbh I found independence more useful than even my 2nd pair of shells but ig that really depends on what ships you have available 
Any BB you're using at the time
currently fdg, alsace and musashi
Great options
the siren logs if you can defeat them
Those limited loggers are 1 time purchases so you don't have to buy all of them right away
But they have very good rewards
Rewards
Okii ty
im buying out the shop
you mean classified files? or hidden zone one
The classified
Which one worth +10?
Wait, I was told that the classified boss will disappear if you leave the map, so how are they one time only then..?
That's abyssal
Is it like strongholds or abyssal
Eh? The classified loggers you use 1 at a time and it starts a series of missions on the map
Ight
Uh more like hidden zones they're pretty easy
tbh its aa plates, by the time they get noticablly better aa, they will have a fuck ton
oh wow, nice
thanks!
When I was at that point I'd be more worried about the coins 
its still a waste of resource
those things are perfectly servicable for w12
serviceable yes optimal no
just one more question, once we use them, we will have to finish the 10 runs before the opsi resets?
Sure and they are perfectly serviceable at +8
That I do not know 
when do i start getting the materials for ye gear lab to get actual half decent guns and stuff
After a couple months of opsi
:[
opsi is fun ||said no one ever||
1 month is enough to craft 1 or 2 important pieces like a wyvern from 1st time rewards
you can get a wyvern within a month of opsi
itss so booooriiiiing
just watch something, loggers also go a long way
i still have to play
It's exciting on 1st month of release
Not really, let auto do most of the work
auto doesnt cover all of the map tho
use recon
Lmao no , it was a fucking slog to get through , even worse then we barley knew how to build fleets so abysaals kick our ass
Was gonna reply to read like a webcomic or something but wtf how am I editing
use the recon order
???
Did you just start opsi
Ah ok yeah it takes some time to get through that initial portion
Bro is probably still stuck on story
Dw I didn't do anything, but yea I end up just doing something else like reading while the game runs on the side like you see in the pic earlier
It's a bit of a slog but it only takes like a few hours total
After that it's just another daily like auto sortieing in events
how many chapters are thered to this thinggg
5 iirc
there are a few things that require like 15 seconds of input
but pretty much
if you finished story today then you get normal opsi shop and 5k oil thing starting june..? 
what is this maze bullshit >:[
IQ test , do you have the brainpower to solve kids puzzles
TB saves your ass after a while of clicking around
if youre gonna give me a puzzle, give me like a jigsaw or wheres waldo pls
im not a maze person personally
cool
Is Cavalla a good submarine to level?
im on two six right now, how much longer is there?
5 chapters
have fun (at least it is only one time for those puzzles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_RNFiEeJos
does ht1 in the event have oil limiting? i can't do ht2 i don't have enough eva
Can you not do 3?
And have you tried using only 1 fleet and flooding the other with eva fodder
i can't do ht3 either not enough eva
ht3 my levels too low for also. all of my ships are around 90ish except laffey and franklin that are 99 or 100
add some DD on second fleet, check if you can start HT2
i put a couple units in fleet 2 so i could start ht2 but it's not limiting my oil for the fleet it's still 71 per fight
What am i supposed to buy here
it will be oil cap after you clear it once
alright i'll try it thanks
Books hidden fog remover if you care and the abyssal loggers
the coordinate and siren logs if you can beat them, then the classified loggers but no rush, the rest are optional
how does suicide boat damage work? does it always go to flagship or is it position based?
I just saw a boat come on non flag position but only flag took damage, while other two did not
if you want comfort also the the 30 double oil/reward tickets after what mori told you. the story packs (top line for 800) can only be done once, you can take your time doing them.
were your CV hidden?
yes
then they can't be targeted at that moment, so your BB is absorbing the damage
if CVs are revealed then they can get rammed too
ok thanks 🙏
if they were not hidden, would the damage be distributed among them three?
idk about that detail
Quick question.
What SR CBs/CAs have more value than Kronshtadt?
I see, thanks!
Anchorage
Is it worth to 125 support CVs for w15?
What about Friedrich Carl?
kron>
if you afford to, but they are the last priority for 125
is sovetskaya rossiya good ship
not really
damn
she is certainly better than pennsylvania if you are still using her but may not be worth the gold bulins
ok thanks
is the opsi port gui updated? it seem different than yesterday for me
Is this your 2nd month of opsi?
kind of,i left it for a while then remember back I need to do opsi to progress gears
After you finish chapter 4 of opsi story you get the improved shop next month.
oh i see
yeah you only get old shop for 1st month of opsi for whatever reason
after 1st reset you get new shop
-# You're MY whatever reason, nyagami
nyabot
What gear do you recommend for franklin?
Standard CV loadout also depends on what you're doing
depends on what you're doing
before you say general, there's no loadout for "general"
you'll also want to equip according to what you are fighting + what is your fleet composition
I need it for 12-1. But basically I want to be able to press a button and it would be good
do I know what it means?
What are you planning on using frankling for? Campaign opsi meta etc
since its 12-1 (or w12 campaign actually)
'super budget' or 'i have better' works well enough
here is my homeless build. is it okay?
Looks fine
How do y'all farm 12-1 properly? If I tweak my setup even a little bit, it all goes to hell
If I put even a single lower leveled ship in my fleet to level up at 12-1, they are killed by the planes
(By lower level I mean lvl 75 mlb)
get it down to safe first
I am talking about safe...
75 is definitely on the lower end, since youre lacking gear you might just have to go higher with books
I see... looks like it will take a lot of time then to make units ready to put at 12-1
thanks
?
just normal cl gear, toolbox+evasion auxes
I dont know what it means
show what main guns you have when you go to equip her
Good gears or just slot in Unikai
budget
damn you beat me to it
the gold triple 155 is good
damn relax..
What?
this
Thank you
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
for future you can refer to this in general
sometimes it may not be the correct gear because some ships are special, but at least you won't be too far from the proper loadout
Thanks
if youre lucky the special ships will be covered 
I know late game is all about anti air but what are some strats people use against tanky suicide boats?
Is it the role of vanguard to take care of them or main line?
what sort of equipment is used to fight them? Are barrage patterns that start from the very back like big 7 barrage more preferred?
Would love if there was some sort of guide as well.. similar to how there are anti air guides for w13+
fast firing vanguard+good secondary BB
the CL/DD gun become more important around w11
weaker guns can't properly kill them off
ok, I got an idea of the gear now
so vanguard should have high rld, and are cruisers preferred or dd or depends on the ship?
what do you mean by secondary bb, like off flag bb?
yeah, thanks! I was also looking at the same in guide
depends on the ship, dds like z52 are great bc they are fast firing and have a strong barrage
a cl would be someone like sandy or scylla
fdg is particularly good at dealing with suicide boats bc of their proximity barrage
I see, so sandy/scylla are also good for boats? I thought they were more AA focused
For vanguard, can we say that Z52 for suicide boats what sandy is for AA?
Yeah, proximity barrage is what I wanted to say previously, apart from fdg, any other bb that fire barrage when boats get near? rather than a timed barrage like hood or maryland who fires it timed with her main guns only
they are aa focused they just also are fast firing and have strong barrages, any non-torp dps vanguard does the job
there are probably better ships for that, z52 is just good at everything
it's not really something you have to build your whole fleet around like with aa, it's mainly just the choice of bb secondary gun + having good ships in your vanguard
andrea doria meta also has a proximity barrage, there are probably more but im not sure
i think uvh does?
dont get too hung up on those special barrage lol. any decent BB will still shoot the ramming boats
preferably a bb with a cl gun secondary, dd secondary guns are just worse for interception
I see, thanks a lot
Just a last thing, is there a list of Cruisers with strong barrages? Would like to know some more other than scylla, sandy
Or atleast, how to tell if a cruiser barrage is strong?
Also I was trying to find a list of BB with barrage timings, If it exists.
there is this if youre able to interpret it https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine
barrage isn't the only good thing against rammings
skill can be really good too like Momo's plants
afaik really the only way to know if a ships barrage is good is from reading that it is somewhere (like here)
or testing yourself
Thanks for the list, it is good, but it doesn't have the timings I think, but the proc% is there
i think 95% of barrages will fall in the 15-25sec ballpark
Oh, I was actually trying to find a 10 second one, does it not exist?
not sure, it might but yeah as mori said you dont rely on barrages for interception, it's just nice when it happens and adds consistency
I see, thanks a lot, this helped me understand fleet building a bit better!
you can check w14 mob and boss too to get an idea on what ship is good. might be a bit overkill for w11 but the idea is there https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=992971658#gid=992971658
is u37 u81 u96 good enough for a sub fleet?
dont have flasher so was looking at wolf pack
do you have da vinci
that's basically best wolfpack now isn't it 
no unfortunately
then go for the wolfpack since its your only available choice and also one of the best sub fleet
maggiore seemed ok but didnt have the wolfpack passive
i see, ty!
how to get rodney
any other ways like from stage?
did this include herself?
101 beats 37/47 now
What are good BB supports other than Plymouth?
Helena not consistent enough
I'm talking about boss battles such as META showdown and/or harbiter btw, if that's useful
forgot which was the one that just got auged
doesn't help that I still have no intentions from changing 81/96/47
101/47/73 was my first "wolfpack" before i picked up 37 / 81 / 96
oathed subs
drops at 2-3 and 5-4 but it will be a waste of oil since you will get less exp
why do you want Rodney
oh wait rodney, my bad I thought nelson
if you just want her for waifu my honest recommendation is just wait for her to show up from a heavy-based event pool
finally 2500 ap burn over... rip midnight comme
if you ask me I'd have given up on the AP, at least not bothered with all of it 
just treat it as a lesson to not wait till the last day
yeah that is what I should have done
but I forgot to set an alarm lmao
just get a logger, load up AP, and strategic search while doing something else sleeping
Watch people take that advice and their opsi stops 15 minutes into farm because of [reason]
i skip akashi
is san francisco good for early-mid game
good ship but uses gold bulin. so it depends on how many gold bulin you have
what else would i use gold bullins for getting a good sr ship is pretty hard
usually can be considered for 2nd fleet
earlier on gold bulins are usually spent on your BB and/or Enterprise
whats the difference bewteen ryusei & saiun kai in term of all armor type damage
same modifier, just different in damage and timing
i know i can get enterprise for medals but where do i get good bb i have nelson and penn
saiun ju87 ryusei vit2
higher damage -->
higher reload timing-->
those two are good. sometimes you'll get from BB medal shop, sometimes from event like current one
ok thanks
if you have excess gold bulin you can invest into other SR ships
just save some for emergencies
got it
Hi, where can i find guide for project identity endings and such?
What armor type is this creature
Whts the link for cm again?
Medium
Learn how to beat Challenge Mode with strategies and multiple example fleets for each month of the constellation extreme challenge mode in Azur Lane.
what was CM this month? Taco?
just use the current META fleet lol, it trashes tako
I vaguely remember Taco being easy
what was the minimum dev lvl for kear to be usable
is tallinn better than javellin retro / portland retro
better tank than portland
okay then thanks
Do more ops
You can only access zones that are next to zones you cleared
or buy the 5k oil logger
edit: my bad, shop only opens up after opsi story's done
5k logger doesn't absolve you from clearing more maps
it does remove map movement restriction
I have doubts the exchange shop is even there yet
Doesn't x-1 should be teleport
Like uhh you done chapter 1, then teleport to Liverpool for chapter 2 start
I need 4x T3 testing report for one of the top end gears from the gear lab. In the one month that OPS is occuring in march, can I get 4 including the one from the shop, and if so, how?
oops my bad, shop opens up only after story's done
Similarly, I also need 7x UR AA gun design plans for another AA gear, can that be achieved in this month of OPS or will it take longer?
Yes if you had 24 T2 lying around. So, basically no.
Achieveable if lucky, else 2 months
Yes, if you don't want better gear or have crazy luck. So, basically no.
6x T2 make 1x T3?
8...you said 4 including shop
man Im fucking stupid, yeah thanks man, I may actually have 24 T2, idk have to check
I think I do have a considerable amount tho thats the thing
are the children day ships even good
not really
how many cubes does it take you on average to get an event sr ship? to players who have been playing for a long time
varies wildly depending on rng
nvm I got confused, I have only 12 T2, but like 62 T1, if only T1 could conv. to T2 😦
One day 
Do i gain anything from upgrading this aside from these rewards?
Was there not maintenance this week ?
well i'm in right now so i'd say no
no maint today
next week only ig
no maint as today is a public holiday in china as well
Oooo
Golden week
Is there a shop priority for general events like this
oh,so techbox is actually important
can somebody explain
yeah read the image
you usually have to clear said area to access that port, unless you have the Operation Siren Data Logger, which needs like 5000 Oil
Can you screenshot your maps
It's important to new players who won't get much mileage from research BP
It's literally stated in the ** there
ah my bad,i didnt see the side notes
is there any difference in drop rate according to the rarity here
Hmm i forgot how to trigger it to teleport to top right
Can you screenshot all missions
Click story progress
I think there's "clear x zones"
The map you're currently in, is it fully cleared
for helena with gold SG radar and gold HPHS, what is best augment, crossbow or sword?
what happens if u click view
don't you just need to create a path from where you did your last mission to the port 
is all rng,but lesser time research mean you can refresh new research much faster hence increase the chance
but dont do the cubes research
usually sword, xbow if plane heavy
No because it's impossible
plane heavy? as in my main fleet is carriers or I am facing carriers?
1st and 4th quadrant is locked
facing a lot of planes like w13
even then sword is fine tbh
Helena is part of my BB fleet anyway so I'm gonna go sword
whats the best augment for shimikaze
hammer
hammer...ok
yeah since shimakaze is torp based so hammer is more relevant
i suppose
I mean like do these E have different drop rates since they are different rarities?
Are rainbow comms very important
rainbow commissions?
Sorry i meant the uh fucking bp thingies in lab
they can help you progress faster a bit
Are they worth the cubes tho
take them if you can afford to, they are the best
Hmmm, do they give more bps?
yes
Ah, ty
whats the strategy for hms tech, farm war archive? im very low on it(320 pts rn), and plymouth needs 900
hms also doesnt have double tech like kms...
guild shop perhaps
the problem is most hms guild ships are dd or cruisers not worth many tech points
I need backliners preferably, thats how I got to 900 eagle points since guild has lots of eagle bb
so am i supposed to just focus on 1st fleet until chapter 9 and ignore 2nd? what happens when i get ambushed or boss gets blocked by new spawn and i get 50% dmg reduction from no ammo?
is +13 skyraider better than +10 109g at med
is the highlighted portion applicable to herself as well? so she has 30 percent dmg reduction for herself over 18 percent hp?
as long as skill does not explictly says so, it includes said ship yes
it should be only that dmg
yes this is because newer players often lack the necessary resources to outfit 2 fleets at once
she is also rovay navy main ship though, doesnt that mean all damage dealt to her
would also be reduced by thirty
how would she tank 50% of the dmg she takes herself ?
hmm true, makes sense now, thanks
is this cutie really that bad to use? :c
its a tank for newbies and thats it
newbies 🤔
sadly :c
dont let that stop you from using her 
i dont use her rn
but she could be better than portland retro / javellin retro / eugen xdd
shes basically a portland retro
waifu beats meta frfr
Waifu superiority
so i can use her? instead of portland

Whats the load out to beat this months hard arbiter? CV fleet?
rainbows but yes send cvs last to not deal with the annoying shelling shield
So BBs first?
what time stampo does it proc
when she gets at 30% hp
the loadout should be anti med
champy for BB + raffa gun
La9/bf109 for CVs
so if i one strike, all will be well
just beat it with clubs
though seriously given the right tech it should be a half, and half deal 
timetravel a few months into the future
consider not having a skill issue in terms of investments 
you just need to look at the percents in the chances. each ship has their own and its always the same. so the answer depens on how many event sr there are and how much cubes (1 or 2) cost the pull.
over all player there are so many pulls that the percents will be the real number of drops (mathematically). your own pulls are still rng
I see, so 100 cubes for 2 percent would be average
any opsi expert here knows how much AP to clear the whole map
how valuable is going to 55k event points for gold plates, im running out of oil?
gold plates are among the most valuable things from events if you care about how strong ur account is
Just finished my first 300 catchup prints (Anchorage). I plan to build Roon for FdG research. Would it be a waste to catchup Roon prints? I'm not sure how many tanks you realistically need.
it would be a waste to catchup any ship from pr1-3 before d30 and lose out on the protocore
Your back!!!
That makes sense, thank you!
I completely forgot about her after levelling her to 125 and I only got opinions about her from data mine but how good is Raffaello? She seemed on the weaker side of UR BBs
top 2 campaign but not top 5 outside of that
Guess she’ll just sit in my dock then rip. I’m presuming the top is Sushi?

Is it most likely that ply gun will follow the nep gun when added to gearlab
between pennsylvania, kazan and nelson which should i pick for main fleet after chapter 5
nelson
now that i have read kazan's skill i think her yellow might be sketchy especially in the w10-11 
but u shouldnt change ur fleets too much
i see
kazan is also fine if ure not hurting for gold bulins
I suppose someone who dumped 2 bulins on Heinrich would be hurting for gold bulins 

But how long does it take a new player to retrofit unicorn Portland starter nelson without a new server event
i would postpone starter retro
I would just use Kazan at that point over nelson
Ar you new in this game? How many UR ships do you have and do you know the meaning "cross fleet barrage"?
You can do low cost fleet team for T3 stage. But mostly if you have everything what I said
Maybe, I'm tired after work
50 pulls. since the cubes per pull can vary. even if most are for 2, some event pulls just cost 1.
some events (the re-events) gives free pull tickets that alone further reduces your cubes cost.
It doesn't matter if you are new or older at the game . Unless you have every fucking ship leveled , used ht-3
And gold plates are worth it
the event lasts for another week, you probably will have enough time and oil to grind the 55k out
just use full fleets in a map with capped oil costs and you'll be just fine
Near 79k oil for 55k points, it's without daily reward and sp

79k oil is crazy 💀 💀
it's also not a realistic estimate since it doesn't account for dailies or SP
It's for H3 180 points for 261 oil team
pretty sure it's not all that difficult to get like 30k+ oil per week
so over the course of a 2 week event it's reasonable enough
1250 sp + useful daily reward (except 300 points for 3 ship puling) every day
What are you ? 3
that's his biggest accomplishment so far this year, let him be
41.7k oil. It's excepted rewards and dailies for 14 days.
Forgot add first time stage clear reward
ok
Right, now please keep your 9-10 year old kid behaviour outside this channel
Before we actually ban you for being a kid on discord
10 yo playing Azur lane 
why are 5 gold plates so important though? like you can get them in guild shop too, it doesnt seem like a rare resource..
they're rare
You get around 700 plates per month if you play everything
My account got disabled for 3 weeks cause I joked that I was underaged 
And there's also the event shop
they add up over time
sure it might not seem much but when u look at 1 year worth of events then it will look diff
Also it's 10 at 55k
thats almost double 
I see, makes sense
the consumption of them is also high due to +13 gear necessity...
2 events a month means 240 gold plates a year , totally worth it
yea it is, cog chips and gold plates are the 2 resources ull be starved from even in lategame
eldridge has inbuilt hedgehog? is there any other ship like that?
There are some unnotable ships
uhh special dc not the basic ones
thanks, so it seems eldridge is the one strong ship with it
Poor hammann catching strays
as is tradition
Unfortunately Hammii just doesn't cut it nowadays when there are ships like every new UR vanguard, sandy, d7p
im actually levelling her, but wont take her to 3 star w14
I know what a crossfleet barrage is but I've never built a fleet specifically for creating barrages when the other fleet fights
for T3 this will be 80 points income for 34 oil. the ~~almost ~~highest point rate what you can get. I didn't count 1:1 sp fleet
~~ hammm never stood a chance ~~ 
but very boring and long gameplay. this is for if you want point hard but no oil
I'm almost certain Unicorn and a DDG can simply carry T3 if well equipped even without a lot of crossfleet. Let me test it rq
no. in this way better H3... I did it for H3 (136 oil for 180). But for low cost fleet - it's ranger+downes with 0lb
H3 cos Kazan drop. But in this way better full team H3 - faster and exp leaching
oh yeah my bad I thought we were talking about HT3
you dont need to agonise over this on my behalf, i was just checking gold plates were that valuable
or HT3 full fleet or T3 low cost oil 0lb fleet. other thing not worth
added the big red note 
Lmao you saw that thread too huh
and added win times for Takao example fleets https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/may/
high end BB won in 5:35, 2 la9 CV won in 3:54
That guy is like kimo, just enough to sound correct . But pretty flawed understanding of the game
this I gotta read lamo
any clue why perseus hp alone gets so low(and even dies) on 12-1? this is mob fleet but I cant understand why perseus alone is taking so much damage...
what are the lvls
perseus is 90, penn uni laffey 120, phoenix cleveland 100
thats why
Honestly it's prob cause suicide boats are getting past Penn's DD gun , with level Percy gets chunked extra hard
Goose there aren't any suicide boats in w12 outside the very rare cargo nodes...
there are no suicide boats, irs the planes that keep hitting the backline
awkward to say, but it may be plane leakage
Some moron on Reddit was recommending Keary Yorky2 and Bismarck UVH + rockets on CVs, cause "light armor "
yeah I found it
Plane leakage yes
Being the lowest level hurts too
Because she's at level disadvantage
Tldr level the percy
Or don't use Percy 
what are those?
gold aux that give 100 aa stat
you mean the sg radar
HPAA is just an SGR with a wider array
Feather works
you can also switch to diamond formation if the vg is healthy like that
howw rare is this, its the first time ive seen a rainbow project
pretty uncommon
im In circular formation already, not sure if thats diamond formation means
thanks though
yea circular, mb
what planes are you using btw 
corsair and helldivers
alright 
Full +13?
See the image
hmm your 2 la9 fleet did the same as my 3 la9 fleet
Any ship kinda good as tank other than Napoli?
ehh lala, felix ig
~~"We tried to find a suitable timing for Kearsarge." whos "we"
~~
Poor kerasage
Can Felix be slot 1?
15-1
i mean she could but i wouldnt bring her
neither would I, I'll just farm on lower worlds
yea 
yeah
on paper she's not bad but realisitically it's like "Why should I bother with you" type of deal in most places you'd consider using her
what thread lmao
r/AzurLane
But I’m missing so much cog
i recommend whaling
Are late game players low on chips and arrays both?
I thought at least chips would be in abundance due to daily challenge and 12-1 drop..
Well not for like main teams just tech farming you run low
chips because tech farming, people who dont tech farm arrays ig
I see, makes sense
It’s basically because you get more exp than chips at the rate
arrays come in plenty
Also gold ships are way too costly
i only got arrays rn for like 20 ships
sooner or later you run out of ships to 125
i wouldnt call arrays plenty but rather the demand is (usually) way lower
depends on ur goals
if ur goal is to 125 all ships then good luck 
ew
the ul researches are limited to 5 first rolls per day and it isn't guaranteed to show on the focused series
gl hf
- after you finish all the super rares and most of the elites you start to outpace your demand
- a lot of those ships you showed give bad/no tech
i still have a long way to finish all my rares 
You can farm arrays aside from daily challenge?
not rly farm, just extra from events and coredata and stuff
like, of these ships, only like half a dozen give good tech
what about all elites and rares
so much of vanguard trp, hit, relead, etc is concentrated in elites and rares
I mean that’s the ships left for sr
so why aren't you focusing on elites and rares
you're low on cogs so use ships that take less to uncap
and as I said, maybe like half a dozen of those ships actually give good tech
you're mistunderstanding what I'm saying
I'm saying screw the marginal cog increase of farming 15-1, and drop down to easier maps so you can level 3 shitty elites/rares at the same time
you'll be getting more ships to 120 overall and thus more tech
which armor type are ddgs most effective against?
light
light is their best cos missiles
their dps is also great with the sot4g
light
Check armor modifier of missle
also I don't know why this needs to be said but if your focus is tech then concentrate on ships that give good tech at 120
How much more cog does it even give, w12 is like 250 oil per 1 cog chip or something lmao
don't remember the numbers but overall, for total cog income it's a small percentage
Goes from like 30 to 38 I think
and it's artificially maing things worse you're forcing yourself indirectly to use higher rarity ships
and trust me when I say, I've been there and done it
Is there a way to share my tracker data?
just take screen shots
take SS of the full tech summary
that's the stat stuff
missing 1 bb fp smh
how much are you missing again
too much 
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker smh self advertisement
oh yes, thanks! Ill bookmark it and start using it
considered me unimpressed I suppose
the end goal I would wager for both of us is the same but why did you not focus on the good/better tech first
and actively work on SRs that give no tech/bad tech
i mean they will get finished eventually
like, if you're low on cogs, switch to lower rarity ships so you can build up a stock pile
and then once you have a stockpile then switch to the SRs because you can actually uncap them
btw how much stockpile do you guys reserve?
yeah you'll finish them all eventually, but incrementally you could make your ships stronger sooner
I don't really
not that I have need to
income is enough to keep up with good tech these days
i mean there are rainbow ships coming
you know you get 3300 cogs from the event alone right?
theres always 3k cogs in shop for new events
i do , but there could be 2 rainbow and gold ship could be good tech
Does this mean eld with purple depth charge can perform comparatively to other DDs with hedgehog?
also you can build up XP on ships but just not uncap them for the ships without good tech/have bad tech
and save them for when you have spare cogs/after you've finished all the good tech
yes
shes essentially a +10 hedgehog, which is nice cuz it frees up an aux spot
correction
Do opsi metas rerun
Wait so she doesn't need to equip depth charge at all?
eld retro doesnt need depth charge at all
she has one permanently attached to her kit
they get added to meta dossier eventually
Ah thanks
/campaign
/w15
Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15
check the w15 guide, it has some samples listed
yea that lol forgot they changed it
👍
so many elite dd
yeah, you think you can sustain that in W15?
you're just gonna run out of viable comps
Would AvP work with York2 and Kear in anti light? (Implac was on anti heavy with AmagiCV and Nano)
another beauty of farming in W12, you can keep ships level capped at level 100 and they'll live just fine
removing the need to keep your ships constantly uncapped
yes
whatre you trying to fight? i think we can make adjustments off of that
also bear in mind as well
I supplement W12 farming with C1 grinding and b1 low costing
and I don't have issues keeping up with uncapping the rares and elites I have left plus the occasional event SRs that come along
i do the c1 grind, don't do the b1 low cost since finishing affinity
ok felix much better at tanking than watshio
but u can get away with alot of comps in w14 and w13
yeah doesn't even have to be W12
W13 and W14 would also be an improvement
not my cup of tea personally espeically since I don't wanna run out of grey plates
which one should i use when i have it unlocked ? have an Illustrious (could use for LB maybe?)
enterprise
i guess it depends on your medal shop selection for the month
or sandy if u alr got enty or cv medal rotation
also gph, whatre all the medal shop pools for each server
Amagi is SS, CL
bro did not get the dd pool 
thats my currents fleets if that helps
oh yeah they revamping the beginner mission hope we get ome cogs
it helps pointing out some other issues
sandy : cv, cv
Avrora has CV DD
Struggling with C6 Siren and Abyssals since most of my fleets are Medium-heavy focused (BB comps and IJN CV comp)
washy is SS CA
alright wiki is 3/6 done 
make that 4/6
speaking of dd as tank, what aux other than box should it bring?
HP auxes still
one of the good gold hp auxes that u have
i mean i have golden, but not sure if dd needs it
if they dont die they dont need





dont low oil
