gameplay-help

[hollow gust]

sometimes

[versed pebble]

team building help please? If anyone has an abundance of time.

[hardy creek]

Guys max retrofitting Z23 is worth it right?

[hollow gust]

thats fine

[forest palm]

need to retrofit one of the starters for a mission either way

[amber hawk]

raffaelo build plz, ty

[late flame]

Retrofitting a starter is part of rookie missions so yeah

Although, there is no need to retrofit all starters

[amber hawk]

my current build of rafaello

[forest palm]

lacking so much context...

are you just leveling her?

[amber hawk]

yes

[forest palm]

then that's fine

[amber hawk]

for augmented, crossbow or sword?

[forest palm]

sword is fine

[amber hawk]

okay then, ty

[forest palm]

[hollow gust]

If leveling faster guns better

[dreamy blade]

i finally got my 50th plygun print so i have 2 plyguns now (1 from protocore), so now i can just switch to pr7 focus and stay there until pr8?

[forest palm]

reasonable thing to do

[rapid grail]

yes, not much content ask for plyguns for 1 fight. currently it is better to get at least 4 copies of the La-9 to kit out an entire fleet that doesn't use Kearsarge

[forest palm]

Quad 152 goes anywhere, and everywhere you need a CL Gun, if you could have excess of them BBs would be using them

[dreamy blade]

i was in 5 focus for plymouth and brest, finished ply dev30 and figured i may as well finish the plygun

[whole crypt]

if you have 2 I'd go for La-9s first

[tawdry halo]

My Retro Nelson has been dying for several times in W10-3 out of the entire formation, I need help

[whole crypt]

the first copy is the most important anyway on Plymouth herself

[whole crypt]

burn or suicide boats

[tawdry halo]

suicide boats

And that she cant tank so many shots from the enemies BBs

[whole crypt]

what secondary gun is she using

the shots hurt but you're likely burning out as well

[tawdry halo]

I dont have better choices

[whole crypt]

for a start +10 the guns

[tawdry halo]

No plates

[whole crypt]

grind

[tawdry halo]

Pain

[whole crypt]

also vanguards can help kill boats so your vanguards are probably under too

lv117 is more than enough, without more info of the rest of the fleet it's probably a gear issue

[sweet delta]

If the rest of the fleet is level 125 URs, then it's a miniberke issue

[tawdry halo]

My other 5

They dont even get focused on, it's just Retro Nelson getting painfully clapped by everything

[whole crypt]

yeh spend some time grinding you need to get enhances up

[sweet delta]

🧯

[whole crypt]

that too

[tawdry halo]

So I need to remove one of the two current retro Nelson's aux?

Also would it help if I give her an augment

[sweet delta]

Put an officers sword augment for a start

[whole crypt]

not really

[tawdry halo]

Ight

[whole crypt]

more stats is better but I'm just not sure how much a sword adds for this

[sweet delta]

20 eva when nelson is getting focused

[whole crypt]

[sweet delta]

And it's "free*

[tawdry halo]

Would it help if I dump exp books on her

[viscid swift]

no

[whole crypt]

I'm thinking it's more of a "not killing fast enough" problem, especially when 0 ammo

the levels are enough, you're not going to get much higher

[stark quiver]

Sounds like berke

[tawdry halo]

I mean I am producing probably 40-50 books a day with grinding

[whole crypt]

more like 20

[viscid swift]

you know the level cap is 125 right and most of those ships souldn't go past 120

[slow fox]

If it isn't Suchimisinformation

[viscid swift]

and if you're producing that many XP packs, why aren't you working on a 2nd fleet

[whole crypt]

enhancing weapons to 10 probably adds more

[tawdry halo]

I dont have good gears

barely a good tanker for my 2nd fleet

[karmic swallow]

Has musashi been dethroned

[stark quiver]

For what?

[viscid swift]

to be blunt, you don't even need full fleets at this rate if you level up another ship or 2 and divide your forces carefully

[sweet delta]

Musashi was never the queen for oath skin

[tawdry halo]

#1365706033275863091

[karmic swallow]

Is there a new tier list?

[whole crypt]

conversion rate depends on your lecture hall level, so can't say for sure but probably 40 a day tops for what your current level probably is

[whole crypt]

no and musashi is still situationally top

[tawdry halo]

Lv 72

[whole crypt]

then the max you can get per day is 36

[light trail]

just got napoli to dev30! where do i use her?

[atomic abyss]

Same places you'd use Agir

[light trail]

where do i use agir?

[atomic abyss]

They and anchorage are basically the best main tanks

So anywhere you'd need a tank

[light trail]

yeah i know that, but I asked before if i should swap someone out for her and was told it wouldnt be beneficial

or i guess opsi would be ok?

[atomic abyss]

Napoli is flat out a superior agir

[stark quiver]

I don’t think it matters honestly

[light trail]

can i swap out anchorage

[stark quiver]

Yea

[atomic abyss]

No because Yorktown 2 wants 2 USS

[light trail]

ah right. what about eldridge

[stark quiver]

Didn’t see no kear mb

[light trail]

kear will come soon™

[atomic abyss]

Well due to your current teams, no one besides Agir

And even then Agir is better in this case cos of armour break

[light trail]

guess I'll just wait then

at least napoli is sexy AND strong now i guess

[tawdry halo]

Alright, would it help if I +10 the torps my vanguard is using

[atomic abyss]

Little, because neither Sandy nor Z23 have good torp dmg

If nelson specifically is the one getting clapped, fire suppressor goes a long way

Also I would swap Portland's secondary and Sandy's main gun

Doubt it'll make the difference but ya know

Actually, it could also be the choice of nodes you're using that's the issue

Prioritise less triangle nodes if possible, unless you have 1 ammo left

[hollow gust]

just overlevel

[atomic abyss]

That too
Could use the current event to push the last few levels

[tawdry halo]

I've been swapping guns back and forth for sometimes now

[tawdry halo]

I was having that thought too

[viscid swift]

they're already overleveled though

[atomic abyss]

Not enough clearly

[viscid swift]

like practically, 10-3 only has level 100 enemies

[sweet delta]

Any more levels and they'll get stuck in 11-3

[tawdry halo]

I decided to switch to manual in boss battle

Always make it out with Nelson on 1/4 HP

And yea that's with augment and +10 secondary

[sweet delta]

1/4 is greater than 0

[tawdry halo]

The thing is I would need to strip one of Nelson's current two aux

[atomic abyss]

What's wrong with that

[tawdry halo]

Either Pennant of Victory or the shell

[atomic abyss]

The shell shd be removed

It doesn't help your case that 10-3's boss also has enemies sniping your backline

[tawdry halo]

that's what I've been talking about too

Those BBs are like retro Warspite

[viscid swift]

do you know why those BBs nuke Nelson

because they apply powerful burns when their shells hit
and the Fire Extinguisher is recced specifically to counter those burns

[sweet delta]

because she's the only visible main fleet target

[viscid swift]

well that as well

[tawdry halo]

So I strip off the shell for the blue fire extinguisher?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Can't strip off the other gear

[tawdry halo]

+6 or +8

[sweet delta]

Try to +8 it

[atomic abyss]

Blue gear can only go to +7 max

[late flame]

+6 should be good enough

[tawdry halo]

Oh well

I went +7

Should I max out PoV too

[late flame]

PoV is useful even when not used on nelson so yeah

[tawdry halo]

Nvm

[sweet delta]

HT3 is harder than 10-3?

[grizzled stream]

feel like it's about same

in the general ballpark

[whole crypt]

like it usually is

[atomic abyss]

I'd argue 10-3 boss is the hardest boss in W10...

It shd be harder than HT-3

[mighty hearth]

Hi, I have a question, for the operation siren daily quests, how does one complete "engage in a mock bottle with an allied fleet"?

[forest palm]

hit the go button it should take you to the mission sight

[tawdry halo]

It is harder than HT-3

[forest palm]

Basically with this whole menu you press view it takes you where you need to go

[tawdry halo]

My Nelson survived the event's SP and HT-3s with around 75% HP most of the times

Sometimes it goes down to 50%

But it never went to as low as 25% or zero

Meanwhile, 10-3 casually let me taste Nelson's defeats

[viscid swift]

the saying "Know yourself, know your enemy, and in a hundred battles, you will never know defeat." comes to mind

[tawdry halo]

I switch to manual, Nelson finally not dying

[sweet delta]

Thanks Confucius

[viscid swift]

it's actually Sun Tzu

[tawdry halo]

sometimes manual can do what auto cant 😔

[mighty hearth]

Ahhh thank you very much~!

[tawdry halo]

Perhaps formation difference

Besides I dont have good gears

[viscid swift]

for the last time, your gear is not the issue

bearing in mind W10 was first released when the level cap for the game was still level 100

and the best gear that was available was not far from what you have and the ship choices were worse than what you have

[tawdry halo]

[sweet delta]

If not a gear issue and not a ship level issue, then what's the issue

[viscid swift]

well one key difference is that they were using 2 fleets

[tawdry halo]

I was only using one actually

The second formation was there staring

[viscid swift]

no I meant the people who cleared W10 when it first came out

[atomic abyss]

I do think you've been choosing the wrong enemies...

[tawdry halo]

I take on everything I see

[atomic abyss]

Wait what

[tawdry halo]

Yes, I just keep doing all-clear

[viscid swift]

which is stupid given you only have one fleet and are struggling to clear the boss

[atomic abyss]

This might shock you but
Maybe not try not to do that when you're already struggling to clear

You can 3* the node after you've gotten it to safe

[viscid swift]

and if you do 3 star every run well, that's just wasting oil at that point

[tawdry halo]

Oil for gems though

[atomic abyss]

You only need to all clear enemies once

Not 4 times

And if you're already struggling

[viscid swift]

2nd star can also be completed in however many runs you like

[atomic abyss]

You're putting the cart before the horse

[viscid swift]

and you don't need to 3 star before you 100% clear, it can be done after

[atomic abyss]

You say oil for gems
But you're wasting more oil by being unable to complete the map to begin with

[tawdry halo]

I guess I really should start making a second formation

[atomic abyss]

Not the issue

[tawdry halo]

And probably not touching 10-4

[atomic abyss]

The issue here is the way you're choosing to handle this

[sweet delta]

Wtf is going on

[wind hazel]

well should really look into 2nd fleet nevertheless

[tawdry halo]

If this evening I get lucky enough in hardmode I can get Helena fully retrofitted

And that's when she will replace Nimi as a boss debuff

[whole crypt]

which version of the login screen is EN using, apparently JP's using the "censored" one

[wind hazel]

uncensored one

JP got the haram cert nowadays? 🥹

[viscid swift]

This one

[whole crypt]

retrofitting Helena doesn't make her a better debuffer

[tawdry halo]

Wouldnt her overall stats be better though

Besides I only lack 1 t3 retro

[atomic abyss]

Marginally

[whole crypt]

not by a margin that will matter for your current problems

go ahead if you can, just saying it's not going to be the solution to your current problems

[sweet delta]

Z23 isn't a boss debuffer

[atomic abyss]

Suchi I think you need to sleep

[wind hazel]

suchi is right tho

[forest palm]

mildly confused where z23 fits into the discussion

[wind hazel]

scroll up a bit

[whole crypt]

he is replacing nimi with helena who is a debuffer, I think the statements just got mashed up

[atomic abyss]

This

[whole crypt]

either way we kind of found the problem anyway

lethal 3-starring one fleet isn't really a thing unless the fleet is super pumped

[tawdry halo]

So this is my plan for the 2 formations in the future

The empty slot on 1st formation is for retro Saratoga, and for the 2nd formation it will be Scylla

Boss and mob

[atomic abyss]

Why would you use lil anchorage though...

Let alone the second healer

[tawdry halo]

Ask @viscid swift

#1365706033275863091 apparently

[tawdry halo]

I dont have any other available tankers at the moment, unless you want me to use Eugen or maybe wait until I can dev 30 and augment Saint Louis

[wind hazel]

when you dont anything better, she's a cost effective tank to use

[tawdry halo]

Kinda feel bad to make a child tank everything though

[wind hazel]

dont worry she wont feel anything, she isn't real

[tawdry halo]

Actually, between retro Saratoga and Franklin, who is better

I have both

[wind hazel]

do you have enough bulin

[tawdry halo]

I do

I havent spend my merits for extra bulins

[wind hazel]

franklin is better

[atomic abyss]

Frankly I'd level both to replace Perseus but I don't think that's the best idea right now

[tawdry halo]

I have just enough gold bulins for both Franklin and Kazan mlb as of now

[wind hazel]

then what about scylla....

[atomic abyss]

Anyways we're diverging from the main issue

[tawdry halo]

oh.

I forgot about her, I would need 30k more merits in that case

[atomic abyss]

Your issue with 10-3 is trying to 3* it at lethal

[wind hazel]

that's why i asked if you have enough bulin or not lul

[tawdry halo]

I already cleared it though-

[atomic abyss]

So your solution is not to 3* it at lethal

[tawdry halo]

alr noted

[atomic abyss]

How far are you into Louis, if at all

[tawdry halo]

Just researched

[viscid swift]

so a month or so then to get her dev 30

which is uhh long past when you should be in W12

[tawdry halo]

I think I should just not advancing further in campaign for now and raise a second fleet

[viscid swift]

you should, but it won't take you a month to get that 2nd fleet leveled and pushed to 12-1

[tawdry halo]

For Implacable, I should be able to mlb her next week

So would there be any alternative change

[viscid swift]

you could stop leveling Saratoga

and have Implacable take her place

[tawdry halo]

Great

[cursive laurel]

hey this is probably a stupid question but is there any way to use the censored versions of skins on the english server i saw prinz heinrichs default censored version and i think it looks a lot nicer

[viscid swift]

no

[cursive laurel]

:c

[marsh sparrow]

play cn if you prefer covered

[forest palm]

[tawdry halo]

Also, once I'm done with mlb Implacable, which UR should I mlb next?

I still have UVH 1 star away from mlb, while Shinano is zero lb

Or do I save Bulins for upcoming URs?

[atomic abyss]

I don't think people are willing to give proof of identity that easily

[atomic abyss]

Save

[stark quiver]

you need to give your ID card to bilibili, prove ur an adult

[tawdry halo]

I guess UVH will really get benched for a decade

[atomic abyss]

She just isn't that good for a UR

[tawdry halo]

Alright uhm, what about the 400 builds UR reward, do I get Shinano or UVH

[wind hazel]

shinano

[atomic abyss]

Shinano for sure

[wind hazel]

anyone got the maths on which is better on a DD like eldridge? assume +11 on bouquet

[slow fox]

I heard my name

[wind hazel]

daz right

any maths? on 15s, and on 40s mark if you could

[atomic abyss]

The answer is manjuu

[slow fox]

The answer is never

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

[slow fox]

Depicted: additional eHP as a function of battle time (in seconds).

The 5% DmgRed does NOT outdo the extra 140 HP from the 550gear.

[viscid swift]

so new gear for eldrige in PvP?

[slow fox]

This is because 5% DmgRed on 2k HP is 105 HP.

Oh man I didn't even calculat the barrier

[stark quiver]

smh, someone shut him down

[slow fox]

Here's your stupid barrier

[atomic abyss]

@slow fox btw
For the ehp chart
What did you assume for the W14/15 eHP

[tawdry halo]

Didnt know we have a dedicated math guy for stuffs like these

[stark quiver]

dedicated math bot*

[slow fox]

W15:

AVI 0.8/0.9/1
TRP 0.8/1/1.2
FP 1/0.8/0.7

W14:

0.85/0.9/0.85

[tawdry halo]

that's a BOT?

Looks too real to be a bot

[atomic abyss]

The only bots that smart to do things on a fly would be properly trained AI

[slow fox]

Hi! If you have any questions regarding eHP for the JRPG sidescrolling action game Azur Lane, you can always ping me with requests!

[stark quiver]

technically not, but hes a honorific one

[fresh briar]

Btw does this current event good to have or should I save my cubes

[atomic abyss]

It is good, but not UR so save cubes

[tawdry halo]

I might need this guy later in the end-game progress

[slow fox]

No, that's Suchi. I only do eHP.

[stark quiver]

how many cubes

[fresh briar]

I have currently low aka 12 XD

[viscid swift]

just save then

[stark quiver]

yea lets not pull

[slow fox]

If you have better considerations, please send them my way.

These bullet densities are literally guesses.

[fresh briar]

I used all my cubes because of that nun UR ship

[atomic abyss]

Save, next UR shd be late May

[fresh briar]

That impacable nun I think

[atomic abyss]

Nah it's fine
I was just having a jolly good laugh about Bayard's eHP

[slow fox]

-# eHP is not a laughing matter I spent 5 years studying eHP

[atomic abyss]

Well you have me to thank

[slow fox]

I had a friend do experimental testing for W14, but they ended up with something like 0.48/0.32/0.3

[atomic abyss]

I was one of the pioneers of eHP in EN to begin with

[slow fox]

In words, that meant heavy armor is super effective for W14, which doesn't seem true.

[atomic abyss]

As with a lot of things, I just never followed up

[atomic abyss]

Depends on the map

14-1 and 14-2 yes
14-3 and 14-4 no

Something something submarine

[slow fox]

They tested 14-4 boss

[atomic abyss]

Isn't the only torp spammy boss 14-3?

[slow fox]

Yeah you've been talking about eHP since 2018 wao

[slow fox]

mutsukishrug

[atomic abyss]

I think I was one of the first people to come up with the wild discovery that rudder was actually better on some DDs

[stark quiver]

mebot can you relink the calc ehp guide pls

[slow fox]

RUDDER DD MENTIONED

[slow fox]

The CALC guide!?!?

[stark quiver]

i vaguely remember one existed yes

[slow fox]

crazy

Totally incomplete. I need to rewrite it over the summer.

[stark quiver]

wonderful, love you

[slow fox]

Maybe I should start putting out Youtub video, where I just do eHP calcs.

[atomic abyss]

Lol

[viscid swift]

oh yeah mebot just curious, do you assume level 1 or 10 skills for Portland?
not that it really makes a difference

[slow fox]

10

[atomic abyss]

DEFENSE ORDER

[little tree]

~~ add z52 as tank with most Ehp ~~

[atomic abyss]

Bigger scam than Cleveland assault order proc fishing

[viscid swift]

and did you ever find the STD for that compared to HP auxes

[slow fox]

I only did one calc. It was something like 12% higher

[normal cedar]

that calc guide has textbook formatting
maybe write a book next, and release it in summer

[viscid swift]

yeah that's what I figured

[tawdry halo]

Also, just a stupid question, does the effect of rental skin stacks on each others

Like, per ticket is 2 days, does that make 6 days if I use 3 tickets on a single skin

[stark quiver]

please do

[viscid swift]

yes

[slow fox]

That's the plan

[tawdry halo]

Great, time to experience Kazan skin

wife

[atomic abyss]

Actually mebot

Out of curiosity

[slow fox]

Here's the difference by the way, between max and 1

[atomic abyss]

Which tab was the actual raw eHP value on

[slow fox]

There is none

[atomic abyss]

I'm assuming you have them right

[viscid swift]

so 0.055%

[atomic abyss]

Out of curiosity

[stark quiver]

can u make a 9999 hit tab

[atomic abyss]

Could you pull out Ning or Ping

Any one of them

[slow fox]

The calc does calculate them, but it internally normalizes it to Portland's eHP. I'll recalc using raw values.

[atomic abyss]

Oh

Just one of them

[slow fox]

The calc also does it all at once

[atomic abyss]

Assuming yat skill is active ofc

I'm a bit curious how much it differs from what we did back then

Considering we didn't account for gear passives back then (i.e rudder and toolbox passives)

[slow fox]

eHP back then was just equipment matrices, right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

...oh wait

The calcs back then were also 120 I think

Lol

[slow fox]

That's fine. The average 125 is 118% the eHP of 120. Do you want me to reverse that consideration?

[atomic abyss]

Nah it's fine

I can just redo them if I find the file

Lol

I have it archived somewhere

[slow fox]

Portland: 14992.1191
Yat Sen: 24566.5087

[atomic abyss]

That's Yat Kai I assume

[slow fox]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I was hoping for Ning or Ping since they actually had their retros back then
Nvm I'll compare with port

It's fairly different from what I remembered

[stark quiver]

ender, quick question do you still grind al?

[slow fox]

Ning Hai: 26000
Ping Hai: 24731

[slow fox]

2.5% DmgRed?

[atomic abyss]

Have been inactive for a while

Took a break since yk2

[slow fox]

Higher or Lower?

[atomic abyss]

Port, this calculator actually did account for gear passive

[slow fox]

What were the enemy HIT/LCK/LVL stats?

[atomic abyss]

Doesn't account for luck stat

[dreamy blade]

what do people spend their protocore on after the major purchases? i have 3 champys, bought the tenrai/plygun/457 prints

[slow fox]

mutsuki

[atomic abyss]

I think this assumed taihou boss

[viscid swift]

rest of the UR gear prints

[atomic abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/362117088136921090/530809133495222283/unknown.png?ex=68126687&is=68111507&hm=c402a0e8c87d98a08c048e0b2895bb654ae0ebeffbafeab25cc64d8ccbf0d490&

[slow fox]

enbayft mentioned

[atomic abyss]

The older version of the calc that we used to discover the rudder on DD thingy

[dreamy blade]

so hinden gun?

[slow fox]

eHP 1 was based on enbayft calc, then I discarded it in order to begin comparing ships to each other (where we actually cared)

[atomic abyss]

I mean the current stance is better

[atomic abyss]

But this is a good way to show how much gear actually matters

50% increase in eHP is insane

[slow fox]

There wasn't 550 back then

[atomic abyss]

There wasn't yeah

[potent tinsel]

is there anything besides soyuz that can easily time CM? I'm having hard time being consistent for some reason

[atomic abyss]

https://github.com/MajorProcrastinator/Auto-eHP-Calc
If you're curious

Man that name brings back memories

[slow fox]

Yeah I used these as a reference when I was starting into eHP

[atomic abyss]

What do you mean by "time"

[sweet delta]

Easily time as opposed to hard time

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/april/

Good luck then, no clue what you're asking for

[tawdry halo]

So, what do I grind next, I "finished" the Tulipa event, not certain whether I should advance into 10-4 or not

[sweet delta]

Wdym finished

[tawdry halo]

Medal

[sweet delta]

Then you didn't finish

[stark quiver]

no

[sweet delta]

And idk why you were wasting oil on 10-3 for near zero rewards

[potent tinsel]

yeah I just manualed it again and the splash rng actually worked out... what a pita

[fresh briar]

Uhh does bataan good or trash

[tawdry halo]

I mean, the rest of the milestone rewards arent much

[viscid swift]

Trash

[atomic abyss]

Meh in this era
Independence retro exists

[fresh briar]

Meh I'll just keep her for collection I guess

[stark quiver]

+1 cv rld is her best factor

[tawdry halo]

Besides my formation constantly becomes exhausted upon 5 auto sorties

[fresh briar]

I needed to get that bocchi girl

[viscid swift]

There's a lot more to get from the shop and milestone rewards

[stark quiver]

they are

[viscid swift]

Keep grinding until you reach 55k

[late flame]

i'd at least try to hit 30k

[fresh briar]

Question when is the Ur pool thing

[viscid swift]

What

[tawdry halo]

Ight

[fresh briar]

My English is not English

[plain saffron]

UR banner?

[late flame]

probably asking when musashi gonna show up in UR perma pool

[fresh briar]

Like I mean what is the next ur

[marsh sparrow]

nobody knows

[atomic abyss]

We dont know

[vale spindle]

next UR comes out end of may, don't know who

[plain saffron]

We don't know and next month most likely

[viscid swift]

We don't know

[atomic abyss]

New URs are typically good though

[fresh briar]

I'll just collect many cubes then

[vale spindle]

[late flame]

yes stash at least 400 cubes

[tawdry halo]

So I spam grind this?

[fresh briar]

ain't gonna spend them on this event

[plain saffron]

Just do 1 light banner per day

[fresh briar]

Ye

Brb I'm going to grind my enterprise 💀

[tawdry halo]

Near 200 cubes rn

[tawdry halo]

@viscid swift

[marsh sparrow]

grind moderately

[viscid swift]

Yes

[stark quiver]

yes, until youre at 55k

[viscid swift]

And level up your ships for fleet 2 there as well

[tawdry halo]

Dorm and books are going to make this quick

[viscid swift]

it means in the 3D dorm

[raw ravine]

what's a good item to buy from the tulip event shop?

[tawdry halo]

Also chat, where to get the most Crescent

[stark quiver]

what cresent

[viscid swift]

check the shop priority in the datamines

[tawdry halo]

Common dd

[stark quiver]

she probbaly drops from normal farming/event stages if they have her

why do you need her

[wind hazel]

collection gem hunter

[tawdry halo]

Her retro skin is cute

[stark quiver]

farm normally, she'll appear soon

[tawdry halo]

I blame PinHeaded for the Happy Dish manga, my adore for the C-class was never this much

[wind hazel]

i will show you my mutsuki collection and turn you into a degen

[tawdry halo]

[slow fox]

mutsuki

[tawdry halo]

I think I am already a degen the moment I start to desperately grind for certain common ships

Sometimes rarity and performance doesnt matter

[whole crypt]

performance doesn't matter for 90+% of the game

[haughty star]

There any UR's in the exchange worth maxing out a 2nd copy?

[forest palm]

No

[atomic abyss]

There aren't really any ships worth raising dupes of

[whole crypt]

your waifu

[haughty star]

yah figured id ask before i use my points and retire one because im tired of the notification

[whole crypt]

if they're all done then just pick one up for wardrobe, if you don't want to spend the space then retire

[tawdry halo]

@atomic abyss @viscid swift is this good enough as final selection of 2 formations?

Until I can get someone better than Lil Anchorage

[plain saffron]

Mob fleet don't need 2 healer

Especially unicorn and perseus

[little tree]

Never use uni and perc together

[plain saffron]

Unicorn alone is enough

[tawdry halo]

Then what do I even use-...

#1365706033275863091

[atomic abyss]

We only said nothing about percy

Because you had nothing better raised

Ideally you would use Sara there and Franklin on boss

Wait

Didn't you have enty?

You did

So you wouldn't even use Franklin in boss

At that point
Implacable and enty together in boss
Sara OR Franklin in mob to replace Perseus eventually

[wind hazel]

go with sara

[atomic abyss]

@tawdry halo

[viscid swift]

just use your Enterprise instead of Franklin

[tawdry halo]

So retro Saga >>> Franklin?

[wind hazel]

no

it's just cheaper for you, because you need to invest into kazan and scylla

[tawdry halo]

Hmm

[atomic abyss]

This

[tawdry halo]

Right

So when I get 30k more merit I guess I replace Sara with Franklin

[atomic abyss]

No you probably wouldn't

[tawdry halo]

I only lack 2 golden bulins to mlb Scylla, Franklin and Kazan

basically I already have 10

[wind hazel]

stop changing your mind so much

stick to one plan, raise the other ships later when the first batch is maxed out

[atomic abyss]

Saratoga has a retrofit and augmentthat makes her a very strong carrier

She's by no means weaker

[tawdry halo]

What for Scylla

[atomic abyss]

None of those
Blue 76mm

[tawdry halo]

[atomic abyss]

Why? Cos very high rof

[tawdry halo]

This?-

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[tawdry halo]

Cursed

[atomic abyss]

The only cursed thing

Is the ASW gear

[tawdry halo]

No plane for Saratoga

[atomic abyss]

Unless you're at 14-3 already

You shouldn't need the hedgehog

[tawdry halo]

So what do I even slap on Scylla

[atomic abyss]

Blue evasion gear instead of it

So toolbox+blue evasion gear

[atomic abyss]

You have plenty of blue evasion gear

[tawdry halo]

Are you sure the 76mm gun is a good choice

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Because her all out assault is very very broken

You want her to fire it as much as possible

And the 76mm is the fastest DD gun in the game

[late flame]

shocking but true

[tawdry halo]

Now this is a problem

I dont have Helldiver

And no materials to craft one

[wind hazel]

just use the fairey or ju87c

[atomic abyss]

Open more boxes
Just use the gold faireysince it's raised
And one ju87

[tawdry halo]

Where to get Helldiver blueprints

[wind hazel]

idk, but just open techbox

[tawdry halo]

Gamble

[stark quiver]

gear lab, 3-2 farm, 11-4 farm,(but dont do it)

[atomic abyss]

Open tech box

[timid oar]

Hi lads, need help for prep for w14

[late flame]

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[tawdry halo]

@atomic abyss @viscid swift Helena secondary, do I keep the 127mm in use or switch to the golden thing

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure I said to give the gold twin 100 to sandy

[tawdry halo]

Sandy-

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Switch

Give that gold 127 to Helena then

[tawdry halo]

alr

[atomic abyss]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/

Have you read this?

[tawdry halo]

What plane for Implacable

[atomic abyss]

Corsair

[timid oar]

reading it rn

[atomic abyss]

Tenzan x2
So second slot and third slot

[tawdry halo]

Implacable only have 1 torp plane slot

The other one is dive bomber so I used Ju-87

[atomic abyss]

Is your still not max limit broken?

[tawdry halo]

yea

[atomic abyss]

Well you won't be using her for a while anyways

[tawdry halo]

wait hang on Implacable has 4 plane slot?

[atomic abyss]

No

[tawdry halo]

I can mlb her next week actually

[atomic abyss]

Her 2nd slot is able to take any kind of plane at max limit break

[tawdry halo]

[atomic abyss]

All UR CVs have some kind of "flex slot" as we call it

A few SR CVs have them too

[tawdry halo]

This is crazy

so I guess next week I will have some real stuffs

[stark quiver]

not all flex slots are the same tho

amagi cv has a fighter/db one
while implac has a tb/db one

[tawdry halo]

Finally having 2 formations like a normal person

[atomic abyss]

Amagi has 2 flex slots not 1

One is Fighter DB
The other is DB TB

[tawdry halo]

Wait isnt Amagi a BB

[atomic abyss]

Impla 2nd slot is all 3

[stark quiver]

wrong emote

[atomic abyss]

Amagi is a BC
But there's a UR Amagi CV

[stark quiver]

amagi has a cv variant thats a UR

[tawdry halo]

How much did I miss since my break from AL years ago

[atomic abyss]

A lot

[stark quiver]

a lot of meta shifts

[tawdry halo]

Quitted 2022, felt like a caveman when came back

[tawdry halo]

In what scenario would Implacable require 2 fighter slots

[atomic abyss]

W15
Light/med armour bosses in opsi/meta

[stark quiver]

light/medium armor situations
if shes even used

[atomic abyss]

There are fighters that specialise in dealing damage to light and medium armour (which is the opposite of all other planes)
You're not at that point yet

[tawdry halo]

Next week she's entering service

[stark quiver]

damn this guy gonna get the 4 run a day treatment

[tawdry halo]

I forgot what day is my acc rn (since creation)

Probably less than 60 days or around that

[tawdry halo]

I see

[inner idol]

Does anyone know if the pirate ship from the Belfast dancing meme is available? I really want it but Idk what the piece is called

Also what kind of setup should I have for w14?

[forest palm]

most all Tempesta ships are limited outside of Royal Fortune

[wind hazel]

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[atomic abyss]

If it's not royal fortune
All of them are currently limited

Also I have no idea which Belfast meme is this

[terse roost]

Is the yellow one better than the purple one

[dreamy blade]

no

the only he gun better than the mk6 is the mk7

[honest sequoia]

if u want a fast HE gun but not purple you can use this

[terse roost]

Does that apply to all bbs?

[honest sequoia]

depends

[dreamy blade]

all bbs without gear requirements like faction restrictions

[honest sequoia]

like kearsage

[terse roost]

But shouldn't it be better because it has less uptime, spread and more fp

[honest sequoia]

not all the time

[honest sequoia]

mk6 has a better multiplier than hood gun

156 x 3
133 x 2

difference is big
and also the FP dont matter

these are the only HE guns youll ever need only

[atomic abyss]

MK7 missing

[dreamy blade]

musashi in shambles

[honest sequoia]

if u dont got the twin 406mm then poverty version

[terse roost]

The yellow fast he gun better than the purple den?

[atomic abyss]

No

[honest sequoia]

no

[dreamy blade]

it's not "better" they do different things

[atomic abyss]

I'll be frank

Realistically

No one actually uses the twin 406

[honest sequoia]

i do

[atomic abyss]

Because for a relatively newer player to get it, they would need to craft it in gear lab

Or do series 2 research

[frank pulsar]

its just not worth the hassle for the small improvement

using the yellow twin 406 over the purple twin 410 is not going to save a dead run or anyt like that

[late flame]

beehive gun

[honest sequoia]

goated gun tbh

idk why ppl hating it

[frank pulsar]

mines +13

[atomic abyss]

In no scenario is the right gun better
Quite bad in damage, not actually faster enough compared to the best mobbing guns to be worth using

[frank pulsar]

cuz beehive ammo is horrible

[atomic abyss]

If you want a faster gun for mobbing? Rainbow twin 457mm

Faster gun for mobbing that's easily available?
Purple twin 410mm

Faster gun for mobbing that's from gear lab and doesn't cost a bomb?
Twin 410mm Kai

[terse roost]

I need something heavy hitting with he shell for ulrich

[honest sequoia]

mk6

[dreamy blade]

just use the mk6 and call it a day

[atomic abyss]

Mk6

Also I hope you're not running Ulrich off flag in campaign

[frank pulsar]

triple 406 mk6 or mk7 will do
if its uvh no need to think too much

[honest sequoia]

or if u wanna be premium use the yamato gun

[terse roost]

She my flagship cuz exp

[honest sequoia]

Oh no

[frank pulsar]

if grinding exp then tbh doesn't rly matter

[terse roost]

I'm just repeating 12-1 for exp

[atomic abyss]

If you're grinding exp for her you can stick with the triple 406

[honest sequoia]

mk6 all day

[terse roost]

119 and 120 has a huge difference right?

[atomic abyss]

Uh in terms of what
Stats? No

[terse roost]

Pvp

[late flame]

lol pvp

[honest sequoia]

[terse roost]

Exercise or sum

[atomic abyss]

PvP is a meme

[late flame]

also 125 or bust

[ebon topaz]

How do i tell if i have enough tickets for little anchorage

[honest sequoia]

those who put laffey II in pvp defense are horrible human being

[terse roost]

Why

[dreamy blade]

#pvp

[honest sequoia]

just fight one and youll see

[dreamy blade]

if you go into the events tab you can see your progress

[ebon topaz]

O thx

[terse roost]

I haven't fought one but I use her

With eldridge

[frank pulsar]

laffii is a top meta pick for pvp since release since she is near impossible to nuke with torps due to her skill
for more details ask in #pvp

[terse roost]

For real, I always see her taking 0 damage

[zenith heron]

Which has better Supply Shop Voucher Conversion?

Operation Supply Coins or Special Item Tokens?

Context: Just making sure if its not needed to buy the ones from Akashi's Store once you already completed to buy what you need at the Ports Resource Shop...

Basically Asking so that I might not miss or waste good resources

[dreamy blade]

im fairly certain they are 1:1 so theres no point buying them

[whole crypt]

they're 1:1 in port shops

if you run into scamcat then the tokens are worth more

[whole crypt]

0 dmg is a different skill, her damage reduction skill caps incoming damage at 10% current HP so she is the most resilient ship in terms of surviving the opening torps and frequently Alsace's preload Mk7 in those comps

[worthy pike]

what's the purpose of repeat sortie what does It do

[normal cedar]

it repeats sorties
Basically it auto plays the entire stage including navigating to enemies and then auto fighting them

Sortie is what a fight is called in ship terms or in azur lane

[worthy pike]

so when activating that my team will auto fight EVERY SINGLE enemy + the boss?

[normal cedar]

no, not every single enemy, it will fight the mob enemies until it unlocks boss (generally 5-7 fights) and then go fight the boss
Under 'Roles', you can select which fleet you want to fight the boss if you are running multiple fleets

Otherwise it uses the same fleet to fight everything

[honest sequoia]

it basically fights the mob until the boss spawns then it switches its focus to the boss

[paper walrus]

In research academy do the rewards only depend on the rarity of the project or does time play a role too?

[worthy pike]

what im failing to understand is what's the difference between repeat sortie and clearing mode
don't they do the exact same thing

[wind hazel]

you can repeat sortie under clearing mode up to 3 times automatically

clearing mode automates the battle for you. repeat sorties is the same thing, just in numerous times

uhm, with auto search

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[honest sequoia]

should i spend my ap on c3 or c5 since its the last day
i have like 2k AP

[worthy pike]

I see alright

[wind hazel]

got time to play=c3
no time to play=c5

[whole crypt]

got time to play but c3 has no cxp

[marsh sparrow]

btw where is c5

[honest sequoia]

tbh is c3 only better than c5 cuz better scamcat shop spawn?

[wind hazel]

ye, per AP spent

[honest sequoia]

ok so lets say both c3 and c5 spawn scamcat but doenst sell AP boxes
would c5 be better in this kind of scenario

[wind hazel]

somethingsomething catnodes too? idk

[whole crypt]

clearing mode by itself removes map gimmicks and allows fleetlock+autosearch

if you need to think about it just do c5 and be done with it

[honest sequoia]

[wind hazel]

no, because you're spending twice the AP for a single c5

[honest sequoia]

so tbh c3 is just better in terms of rewards, just time consuming

[wind hazel]

can't directly compare them like this, it's always just the % comparison

[whole crypt]

it's not better for cxp if you're high enough

[honest sequoia]

yea c3 it is thx

[wind hazel]

this is also why you start using your AP boxes on the last week, and not using them on last day

[honest sequoia]

usually i spend 400 AP a day

and call it a day

[wind hazel]

you can go more

[honest sequoia]

cuz im trying to manage my AP box usage but turns out this month i hoard too much

[honest sequoia]

how much AP do u even spend a day

[wind hazel]

if i do c1 i can do it endlessly

[normal cedar]

Are there any resource calculations for opsi similar to samheart guide? Or too much rng so not possible to estimate

[honest sequoia]

c1 good for farming scamcat for AP box?

[wind hazel]

yeah

i had to start using 5k AP because my currency was down too low

couldnt buy siren loggers

[whole crypt]

personally I don't think it's worth the time, the difference between c5 and c3 burn is only a rather small margin for the month's plates and mats

[wind hazel]

more is more, it's good for players who still need the mats and plates

[honest sequoia]

so would it work if i farm c1 for ap boxes when im done with the whole OpSi map including harbiter siren logger boss and treasure logger then on the last day i just spend all my AP boxes on c3

[dreamy blade]

it takes more than 1 day to burn through all the ap boxes lol

[normal cedar]

what's a good slow applier ship that is not limited? apart from avp

[honest sequoia]

i have time to spare

[wind hazel]

yeah dont start on last day lol

like i said, start on last week and gradually use your boxes

[dreamy blade]

that doesnt change how many load screens you have to go through

[honest sequoia]

[dreamy blade]

ark royal

[atomic abyss]

Ark Royal yeah
Since eld retro is still limited

[whole crypt]

I just don't think the rewards are worth the trouble per unit time spent, if you want to try go for it

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks a lot, I'll try to get her then

[dreamy blade]

fellow c5 enjoyer

[whole crypt]

personally I do c5 because c3 isn't worth squat for cmdr xp

[wind hazel]

i personally think cmdr exp is useless

[whole crypt]

I do need more gold plates but not worth the time

[wind hazel]

at least more mats is something tangible and useful

[dreamy blade]

should note that she drops from war archives which isnt really worth doing while an event is running

[gaunt cedar]

is little anchorage worth it to do missions if i start her now

[wind hazel]

good tank if you're new

[normal cedar]

My bad, I meant to say get her retrofit; I already have her

Thanks

I also have arizona meta, is she a good slow applier? For a bb, since royal is a cv

[atomic abyss]

No

BB teams don't need slowers

Especially if it's at the cost of someone actually strong

[wind hazel]

having some would be nice

[atomic abyss]

Well yes, but that example is Bismarck 2

[wind hazel]

yeah and you dont mix ark royal with bb either

[whole crypt]

I mean if you're not burning yourself out feel free to spend all the time in the world on the game

[normal cedar]

Yeah, Ill only use her when I running triple cv

[atomic abyss]

Well there is one BB that really wants freeze/slow but yeah....
She's not really relevant today

(it's Georgia)

[wind hazel]

AR also really only viable on heavy, sucks for light

light med i'd just get AVP ASAP and call it a day

or just use triple BB, it's much simpler

[whole crypt]

BB is much easier starting out for light

[atomic abyss]

Just use BB for light and medium as a newish player yeah

[normal cedar]

ig I can do that, colorda maryland wv, wv also has a slow skill tho not much

[whole crypt]

mk6 is pretty much stock

[atomic abyss]

I mean the 3 American Big7 have kits designed to be run as a BB fleet to begin with

[whole crypt]

medium is kind of whatever because TB teams are not seriously disadvantaged, assuming you have a working anti-heavy

[atomic abyss]

Admittedly it would be better if one of them was duke of york or better still FdG but

Can't be picky here

FdG more important to get than avp anyways

[whole crypt]

VG is perm now but bulins

I'd skip on DoY unless have spare gold bulins

[atomic abyss]

Mmhmm

Unless there's maff to show 1lb Vanny is actually worth lol

Surely not right

[normal cedar]

is there any ur ship thats worth at that low lb

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure how much it takes for VG to catch up on DoY

[atomic abyss]

Arguably Musashi

[fickle hollow]

is this fine against hornet meta?

[atomic abyss]

Well if she's not having issues surviving, sure, it's fine

Like a 1lb or even 0lb Musashi is very strong for a new player

Cos she's more barrage reliant compared to her compatriots

Not that id recommend it

[dreamy blade]

idk how useful air radar is, the planes are really weak theres just a ton of them

[atomic abyss]

Plymouth at low dev is exclusively a buffer

The tank research ships get their max defensive stats at d25

[whole crypt]

I'd skip radar yeh, doesn't really add anything for showdown

[fickle hollow]

what would be better then?

[whole crypt]

anything DPS

[fickle hollow]

Fumo

[atomic abyss]

If only DDs could fumo

[terse roost]

What does efficiency % do

[dreamy blade]

something something wtf theres a dd with fumo for rigging

[atomic abyss]

Efficiency is essentially a damage multiplier

[fickle hollow]

[terse roost]

Only damage? No cooldown buffs or anything else?

[atomic abyss]

Just damage

[terse roost]

Oh ok

[steep sleet]

What happened to tle left side of my screen? Some debug like code appeared all of a sudden

[wind hazel]

/logmode

[odd root]

https://youtu.be/l3ujs7D0tFE

[wind hazel]

just hide it

[ocean pilot]

hello, so second rumey airplane can be anything right? right now im using tenrai. idk if another gold plane or wyvern can do better in w15

[atomic abyss]

Frankly I'm more curious why Rumey is not in the support fleet but well

[ocean pilot]

please, i know nothing and just copy paste from guide

[wind hazel]

keep double fighter

[ocean pilot]

if rumey on support, then who is on boss fleet? implacable?

[atomic abyss]

That would be better use of both ships yes

Rumey will still be able to use her 8 fighters on support fleet

[cobalt rapids]

prioritize ur best ships for boss fleet and then for support

[atomic abyss]

Implacable can actually use Wyverns

[wind hazel]

i'd rather use fritz on boss and impla on support

[atomic abyss]

Why tho

[wind hazel]

8 fighters strong

[atomic abyss]

8 fighters < 6 fighters 3 TBs for dmg lol

[cobalt rapids]

either is fine just dont sacrifice both for enterprise on boss fleet for example

[ocean pilot]

ok i assume fighters is type of plane. but how i change rumey to bring 2 fighters? i thought its 1 fighters and dive bomber

[cobalt rapids]

rumey 2nd slot can equip any plane type

[atomic abyss]

She already is using 2 fighters here

[atomic abyss]

When max limit broken at least*

[ocean pilot]

ah full star, my bad

[cobalt rapids]

non mlb ships have no business in w15

[ocean pilot]

since i have 3 wyvern, its still worth to craft one more right?
or just borrow from unused ship
same question to tenrai since i can only craft from proto shop

[cobalt rapids]

borrow from unused ship

[atomic abyss]

W15 is the hardest content in the game

You'll want to squeeze out as much as you can

[late flame]

or try again once you have the planes

[ocean pilot]

how much UR bulin we get in a month?

[whole crypt]

1.5+0.5

[ocean pilot]

need 2 more bulins. already claim from cruise mission

[whole crypt]

so no 0.5 for you next month

[viral vortex]

Hi, is there any way for me to check my history of gems spent? I am returning after 4 years and I don't remember if I wasted gems or not

[wind hazel]

no

[atomic abyss]

Nope

[whole crypt]

you could try checking with CS but they probably will only entertain you if you're asking about recent purchases

[viral vortex]

Nah, I never purchased any gems, I'm just not sure whether to start a new account or to keep this one
I calculated based on wiki and it seems I might have wasted ~300 gems on dorm furniture, my account is lvl 30
Should I start a new account on a different server?

[turbid dawn]

Is vangaurd really worth the sacrifice in damage to just buff one ship? They all had +13 406 and against the current OpSi HM

[wind hazel]

nah just play

[wind hazel]

vanguard buff more than just 1 ship

[viral vortex]

Returning post 4 years, please Help

[turbid dawn]

True, but I thought the main part of her is that she reduces spread of flagship right?

[wind hazel]

that's just a bonus

the bb buff and 10% debuff for entire fleet are the main thing about her

[turbid dawn]

Wait I just noticed she did even less then Ply who was just using her gun

[late flame]

also.. not sure if you got the same mods but

[wind hazel]

yes her personal damage is on the lower side. if you have soyuz you can just swap her out

[turbid dawn]

Yeah this was the first fight, they took her down to 51%

[whole crypt]

take 10% of every ship and add to VG, take another 8% from BBs and also add to VG

[wind hazel]

lemme test it

[whole crypt]

if you have Soyuz then probably better to use Soyuz

[crimson glacier]

isnt this arbiter kinda just messy anyway

[fickle hollow]

what would be a better damage aux on her?and is this fine on Agir?

[turbid dawn]

She’s in my Nakhimov+Fritz fleet

[crimson glacier]

like isnt this the one taht summons med armor stuff

[boreal wagon]

arbiter mods are the same for everyone

[wind hazel]

double eva agir

[whole crypt]

why aren't you using that fleet instead

[late flame]

(i'm using the dummy arbiter since i already beat it)

[cobalt rapids]

thats a replica of harbi

[boreal wagon]

dummy has the same mods last time i checked

[late flame]

oic

[turbid dawn]

Because of the mods, use BB fleet to take to 50% then use that fleet to finish it

[fickle hollow]

she can survive Hornet meta i am using those for DPS

[whole crypt]

dummy should be same as that month's harb

[wind hazel]

you dont use agir for hornet meta...

[cobalt rapids]

just kill her before jelly fish spawns

[whole crypt]

I one-shotted this month with soynakfritz

[crimson glacier]

but what if i want to see the jellyfish

[turbid dawn]

But that means swapping the gear that I already have setup for HornetM and that’s too much effort

[wind hazel]

💀

[crimson glacier]

just use the same gear

[turbid dawn]

Isn’t hornet med and this is light?

[whole crypt]

yeh but you only do it once, and you can probably do over 50% without swapping

yes but rockets good on light even if not optimized for oneshot

plus jellyfish is med

[turbid dawn]

But yeah that’s why I did what I did. The first BB fleet take to about 50% then the better CV fleet can finish

[fickle hollow]

ok ,what about Z52 aux?

[wind hazel]

can use something better than that thing on first slot

[turbid dawn]

Just I’d never used VG a single time before this

[whole crypt]

so what's the problem now? you didn't do enough damage?

[wind hazel]

@ bane

[turbid dawn]

And didn’t realise her damage was so bad

[wind hazel]

didnt check radar

[late flame]

nice cat : BBbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

[fickle hollow]

should i?

[wind hazel]

yeah i had like, 4 or 5 oscar. gotta differentiate the one i wanna keep

[whole crypt]

VG's self damage is meh but her buffs make up for it

[polar lion]

Skip

[whole crypt]

I'd say not worth the cubes just do face

[late flame]

+you lack cubes

[wind hazel]

the E is fine too

[whole crypt]

if no face do a cheap refresh option

[crimson glacier]

im just wondering, isnt that dmg kinda low

[viral vortex]

Hi, if anyone could please help with some of my doubts in my thread it would really help..
I've posted it above

[wind hazel]

idk im no expert. if she dies, she dies

[crimson glacier]

no i mean the bane fleet, like shouldnt zwei go way past that with helena and ply or was there like no procs

and looks like my mob fleet with 457 on alsace and sap on soy still did like 70%

this test was good thing to do tbh, i noticed that my unzen is kinda lacking 🙂 whops

pls dont steal my super secret build

looks like hindy was running 2x ap too

[fiery swan]

@wind hazel I bought a breguet, who do I put it on

[atomic abyss]

Well, it's a discount wyvern

So I guess unicorn

[fiery swan]

Specifically for 13-4

[wind hazel]

forgot what fleet it was

[simple dove]

any of the worth it?

i was considering getting seal of the four gods

[late flame]

so4g? only if you are gonna use ddg

[simple dove]

im usin ddg, at least for now

idk, i havent consulted the very far future plans with ender yet

[late flame]

dang ender upgraded from mod to consultant

[steel grotto]

quick question ulrich, nj, shima, or kron for ur exchange

[late flame]

do you have shinano, vanguard at mlb?

[steel grotto]

yis

[late flame]

then i suppose kron if need tank, else nj

[wind hazel]

[simple dove]

just realized i had sy-1a, aanyways what gearis worth getting in

[wind hazel]

either uvh or nj, uvh has 1 rld at 120, nj has slightly better crossfleet and 1fp at 120

[atomic abyss]

3 pairs of shells, and independence the carrier if you havent

Already got those? And using DDG? Then yes get the seal

[simple dove]

inde the what

[atomic abyss]

USS independence

She's a carrier

A very good one once retrofit

[simple dove]

oh yeah ive consulted you with this

[wind hazel]

@steel grotto

[simple dove]

i think i got inde, havent checked

huh, i dont got inde apparently

ah, well im cooked

how do i get this core fast

[atomic abyss]

Do highest campaign hard mode map
3x a day
Repeat

[humble solar]

Is Anchorage still good?

[simple dove]

oh .-.

[atomic abyss]

Still one of the best in the game

[tacit star]

errr my gold storage almost full what should i do ;-;

[atomic abyss]

Research

[tacit star]

oh ok

[warped acorn]

do ppl even use her with enterprise main anyways based on description

[atomic abyss]

No
Repair ships are extremely useless for 99.9% of players

[warped acorn]

hmmm

[atomic abyss]

Cos they deal no surface damage

And they aren't even good at healing

[warped acorn]

another ahh collection ig

[humble solar]

How much of the content can Chang Chun solo?

[atomic abyss]

All event nodes including SP (but not EX)
Campaign up till (including) w12

In other words
All the actually easy content

[humble solar]

I plan to make an entire fleet only composed of her, or anyone that greatly resonate with her

[atomic abyss]

You can't make a fleet of only her

You can't run duplicates in a single fleet

Chang Chung buffs all Chinese and Russian ships

[humble solar]

I mean just her alone or anyone that resonates with her

[atomic abyss]

So if you want to make a team specifically around that (with the knowledge it isn't a great idea)

She's the worst of her sisters

That's about it lol

[humble solar]

Who are her sisters and can we get them without events?

[atomic abyss]

Tai Yuan is the only one obtainable outside event

In the guild shop

An Shan and Fu Shun are limited to Chinese New Year events

[fresh briar]

Uhh is she good or trash

[crimson glacier]

forgettable

[atomic abyss]

Not the worst certainly
But most destroyers are pretty forgettable, her included

[simple dove]

who even is this

[crimson glacier]

no reason to really use her since ddgs

[atomic abyss]

The name is literally there

[wind hazel]

L'indomitable

[late flame]

+1dd fp

[simple dove]

what the funny little thing with an shans refit?

[atomic abyss]

What

[simple dove]

this funny fella

[late flame]

ignore it

[atomic abyss]

As it says on the tin, she can be used as a backliner
Not useful

[simple dove]

why would you

[late flame]

memes

[atomic abyss]

Or not knowing better

[late flame]

i did put out a full mainfleet ddg in exercises for shits and giggles but man they sucked in mainfleet mode

[simple dove]

what hard campaign level do you recommend me doin a bit for core

[atomic abyss]

The highest you can do

[late flame]

as high as you can go

[atomic abyss]

The higher you go the more you can get

[simple dove]

eh yeah sure

[humble solar]

Is there a list on who's the strongest among DDG sisters?

[simple dove]

id imagine its an shan

[fiery swan]

do you mind ranking them

[atomic abyss]

Tai Yuan > Fu Shun > An Shan > Chang Chung

[simple dove]

or not, thats skibidi

where do i get tai yuan and fu shun from

[humble solar]

Where can I get Taiwan's retrofit item?

[atomic abyss]

Tai Yuan guild shop

[fiery swan]

why is chang chun the worst one

[atomic abyss]

Fu Shun limited to Chinese New Year

[simple dove]

is that, is that it?

[atomic abyss]

Specialised core shop (labelled as protocore shop)

[simple dove]

that seems a lot more simple than i expected from good ships but ok

[atomic abyss]

Her retrofit item costs 1/4 of a UR bulin if you missed her event sooo

[atomic abyss]

Least self buffs

Her value is buffing Chinese and Russian ships

[simple dove]

i haave like none of those

[atomic abyss]

Except those don't usually team up with her