gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

gold rudder = high performance hydraulic steering gear

[vital quest]

aight bet

So the go to is type 93 + HPHS (gold)?

[atomic abyss]

no the go to is toolbox + rudder

the oxy torp straight up isnt used unless you know what you're doing

[vital quest]

lol idk what i'm doing but i'll use it anyway since i have it

[vocal sandal]

will the 2 events be available tomorrow aswell?

[paper walrus]

i use it on ibuki

[zenith heron]

Using the UR Torpedo Auxiliary is Alright, as long as you use her mostly as the damage Dealer since she is a Strong Damage Dealer, especially Against Heavy Amored enemies...

But the go to is the Purple Toolbox and the HSPS Gold Auxi for Survivabilty

Also HSPS is almost a go to for all Cruisers

[atomic abyss]

very easily

[warped acorn]

how to unlock laffey annihilation mode skill

[zenith heron]

Straight up yes...
As long as its optimal

Unsure why Ironblood but not all OP ones are from IB

[atomic abyss]

outside z52 and fritz rumey, most german ships arent optimal options for w15

[vital quest]

i thought so, cuz i've been subconsiously using HSPS on all my cruiser type vessels

[mellow crown]

whats the fastest way to level ships?

[atomic abyss]

retrofit her

[atomic abyss]

experience books or using them in battle

[zenith heron]

You're always good to go for HSPS on your Cruisers due to Some HP and High Evasion, which most Cruisers have lacking most...

Also Toolbox is a Staple HP Auxiliary, doesn't mean that you might have to commit that unless you don't have other Purple/Gold Optimal HP Auxiliaries so you are good with that as you choose...

Also Unzen is not as Durable as most peeps Think tbh with one of the slowest ships by Speed, so take that with a grain of salt, hence why she is used as a Damage Dealer...

[atomic abyss]

except speed is rarely ever an issue

[tame jungle]

on some stages speed can even cause you to eat more pellets

[atomic abyss]

outside of specific bosses like arizona meta, speed is almost irrelevant on your end

[zenith heron]

Yeah, which is why Evasion is needed the most with ships...

The higher you go, those enemies will have higher hit as well...

Unless you are a pvp user

[honest sequoia]

which is a better BB aux mix
White + black
black + gaming table/fcr

[sinful elk]

Chat is there a way to prevent the game from crashing the EX stage fourth boss kept crashing me

[atomic abyss]

white black or white + table/fcr

[honest sequoia]

why does entl differ then
it said black and table/fcr is good for mobbing

[atomic abyss]

ask them not me

[zenith heron]

Faster timing, but not much of a difference rly (this one lacks more context tho)

[atomic abyss]

a bit more hit is better than a bit more fp

[honest sequoia]

ive been using white + fcr anyways
but is black + fcr any good or white still better

[atomic abyss]

reasoning above

[honest sequoia]

yea that make sense thx

[warped acorn]

i wonder when am i escaping ptsd from 4-4 🤔

[atomic abyss]

you shdnt need to escape it

it's pretty easy to brute force your way thru

[sinful elk]

Chat 💔

[warped acorn]

basically these few days im just farming 3-4

[atomic abyss]

if you've been following the beginner guide

why?

3-4 is a scam

[warped acorn]

well i mean the repair kit

[atomic abyss]

do an asset repair

[atomic abyss]

still a scam - gear farming on maps is a huge scam in this day and age
drop rate is abysmal

[sinful elk]

Hmm okay

[zenith heron]

Fox Mines was years ago...

Let it go, and embrace the current META of being optimal

[warped acorn]

agree, prob i should do 5-1 after retrofit laffey but its going to be forever ig

[atomic abyss]

no you shd just push content

you shdnt be stopping campaign to retrofit laffey
pushing campaign would be better if anything

also you shd be retrofitting unicorn, then portland
then laffey

[warped acorn]

🤔

i wonder if chapter 5 got bombs spam like 4-4

[quick mason]

Are these 3 Worth building?

[forest palm]

lol, no

[atomic abyss]

no

[atomic abyss]

even if it did, doesnt matter
you shd be clearing all early maps by sheer overlevelling - level advantage gives you enormous buffs

are you even using the recommended beginner fleet

[warped acorn]

well

[quick mason]

Sheesh

Fleet reveal buddy

[warped acorn]

wait im doing auto

[quick mason]

Send it

[warped acorn]

cuz my aim have skill issue to

[atomic abyss]

so what if you're doing auto
we assume everyone is playing on auto when such guides are written

[quick mason]

Yeahh

[quick mason]

Nahh I'd build kids when im done building my 2 fleets

[warped acorn]

look how trash is my fleet

[quick mason]

WOW

[atomic abyss]

it's not bad by any means

[quick mason]

Yeah

[atomic abyss]

i'd say you were on the right track

[warped acorn]

sure... unable to beat 4-4 with it goes crazy..

[atomic abyss]

you're having issues because your backline hasnt been limit broken

[warped acorn]

i wonder when am i going replace ranger

[atomic abyss]

unicorn and ranger being limit broken would have solved your issues

[quick mason]

Put your tank on the front

[atomic abyss]

no

chapayev is overlevelled, shd would tank better

[quick mason]

Ohh

[warped acorn]

i remember seeing someone with 4k vanguard however i cant beat him just cuz hes lv 100 in exercise 💀

[atomic abyss]

fleet power is a poor indicative of how good a fleet is

[warped acorn]

agree

[quick mason]

Just build it to the max

[atomic abyss]

a singular level 120 vanguard would annihilate yours regardless because of level advantage

limit break your ranger and unicorn as far as you can

[warped acorn]

i wonder a normal lv120 have how much hp

[atomic abyss]

this fleet shd get you to w9 with ease

[quick mason]

Normally around 4k - 6k

[warped acorn]

oh that sounds crazy

[quick mason]

Yeah

[warped acorn]

homing torpedo might say hi to them tho

[quick mason]

Do you have the gear guides?

[warped acorn]

i dont have too much good gear especially aux

[atomic abyss]

again, not the issue

issue here is lack of limit breaks

[quick mason]

Yea

[warped acorn]

do i even limit break pennsy too

[jaunty vault]

lol

[wind hazel]

lol

[atomic abyss]

/ban 678026008623972352

[odd root]

mavus_capi#0 got banned.

[quick mason]

What was that

[warped acorn]

jumpscared

[quick mason]

I didn't click it

[wind hazel]

sorry it's my nigerian prince trying to wire some money to me

[atomic abyss]

everything you use should be limit broken

[jaunty vault]

should've clicked it
i got free nitor

[warped acorn]

uh huh ranger too

[quick mason]

What scam

[atomic abyss]

yes, EVERYTHING

[wind hazel]

yes, ranger too. you might even have her duplicates

[quick mason]

Yes

[warped acorn]

got another repair kit, do i give it to laffey or portland

[quick mason]

Sheesh

[atomic abyss]

laffey gets 2
chapayev gets 1
portland gets 2 blue evasion auxes for now

if you only have 2
laffey gets 1, chapayev gets the other

[tame orchid]

Is raffaello or New jersey better

[quick mason]

NJ

[atomic abyss]

rafaello

[warped acorn]

alr

[quick mason]

Use both damn it

[atomic abyss]

unlikely

[tame orchid]

I have enough BBs no

[atomic abyss]

they would have the bulins for it

rafaello is better for campaign

[tame orchid]

I have 12 ur bulins but have 3 ur bbs only plan on one more

[quick mason]

welp rafaello is better he said

[atomic abyss]

and what are those UR BBs

[jaunty vault]

why do you have 12 ur bulins and not 48k spec core

[tame orchid]

Thats what i mostly meant but some from the earlier event and the cruise missions

[tame orchid]

Vanguard Alsace and FDG

[quick mason]

[atomic abyss]

rafaello would be good then

[tame orchid]

Aight thanks

[quick mason]

Yes build rafaello

[forest palm]

don't know about investing in a UR when we're a month off a new one

[atomic abyss]

taz, he has 12 bulins

that's not really an issue lol

[tame orchid]

Yeah hence why i only plan on one more BB lol

[atomic abyss]

12 is enough for 3 URs

[jaunty vault]

month off from 2

[tame orchid]

Oh right bis zwei, is she better than rafaello

[warped acorn]

i wonder do i put laffey middle and portland outside now

[atomic abyss]

much better than rafaello for bossing

[forest palm]

oh, right we always have BZ jump scare which is a thing

[atomic abyss]

no because laffey is higher levelled

[warped acorn]

mhm so only when portland higher lv than laffey

[tame orchid]

Aight ill wait then

[jaunty vault]

there's also the shop UR jumpscare

[forest palm]

[atomic abyss]

8 is enough for shop + gacha
by the time bis 2 reruns he'd have enough for another UR probably

from cruise pass and from the event and from bis 2 rerun

[jaunty vault]

yes

yes

you could probably mlb raff

[tame orchid]

👍

[paper walrus]

on average every how often do we get an event with a UR? Whether its a rerun or a new one

[atomic abyss]

4 new UR events
4 rerun URs
so 8 of them a year

not accounting for the fact that some events may have more than 1 UR

[tame orchid]

Waiting for the day i catch up on reruns so dont have to spend my cubes

[paper walrus]

thats more than i thought ok 🙏

[forest palm]

or any URs made perm for that matter

[terse roost]

When is the azur lane anniv

[atomic abyss]

CN anni in late May
EN anni in mid Aug
JP anni in mid Sep

for past few years, CN and JP anni coinincide with UR events

[forest palm]

boring patchnotes

[mellow crown]

how long does it take for a ship to get an oath skin, if they even do

[sinful escarp]

we dont know

[forest palm]

That's at the devs discretion

[sinful escarp]

but if the ship is popular then there is a higher chance for her to get one

[eternal basalt]

Pick a dartboard pick for oathskins, that's how the devs do it...

[soft raft]

Lol
Lmao

It took like what, 2-3 years for Bremerton to get hers? Despite having fanart up the wazoo

[warped acorn]

ships that can be retrofitted always better than the ones cant be?

[atomic abyss]

not always, usually the opposite if anything

[soft raft]

Not always

[warped acorn]

mhm

[sinful escarp]

she did? deym my sense of time is really bad. i thought she got hers quickly

[soft raft]

Esp if you're doing shit like comparing a Common->rare or rare -> Elite retro to a UR or SR

[atomic abyss]

if you are someone stuck on w4/w5
all these are the least of your concerns

[eternal basalt]

It took shinano 2020 -still waiting

[atomic abyss]

focus on retrofitting unicorn because she is one of the best in the game
then portland cos she's a good early game tank that is required for the beginner missions

[warped acorn]

ima try to

[soft raft]

Some more examples being Warspite retro and possibly Yuudachi retro are pretty outdated SR->UR Retros in the modern meta and Fusou and Yamashiro actively get nerfed by their BBV conversion

[warped acorn]

hmm

[eternal basalt]

・We plan to update the shop app to prepare for new content implementation and to make the app lighter.

　(You will need to rerun the asset download```) Free ![Gem](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/499116845085753345.webp?size=128 "Gem") not good???

[rustic osprey]

Should I be getting this gun

[polar lion]

Get it coz limited

[rustic osprey]

I will try

[fiery swan]

Is this any good?

[frank pulsar]

dont think so, iirc it just stat stick for bb
correct me if im wrong

[forest palm]

don't ping me for something trivial

[normal cedar]

why are some of the research tech point requirements so goofy?
Chkalov, a NP ship requires EU & Sardegna points to unlock??

[atomic abyss]

because back when she was released, there werent a lot of russian ships

and the ones that were out were event limited

a lot of the early minor faction PRs are like that

[forest palm]

it's there to make it accessible to all players

[atomic abyss]

in the first place, why are you even trying to unlock chkalov at where you are

[normal cedar]

Nah, I'm not trying to unlock her, I'm trying to unlock Anchorage and FdG and Agir for now
Just asked cuz it felt out of place, with even more NP ships coming up, I thought why she didnt need NP points

[atomic abyss]

always think about when something was added

not how it is now

[normal cedar]

But then nakhimov was pretty recent right...

[atomic abyss]

and nakhimov came out after a russian UR event, and a russian UR event rerun

[forest palm]

it's more accessibility, it lets players have options to use

[normal cedar]

so why does she require Sardegna Empire points then
sardegna ships are prolly the hardest to get since most are merit shop outside of event...

[atomic abyss]

for the matter, a mlb alsace alone is enough for all the iris tech you need in the game

and russians would be even harder to get

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks

[atomic abyss]

there isnt a single russian ship in medal shop

because they decided tash mu was to be added and not og tash

italians have zara and pola

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure muse ships count into faction

[atomic abyss]

they count for exp grinding for PRs

not for fleet tech

[forest palm]

basically throwing xp in the trash

[hollow gust]

I thought u guys were talking about grinding the exp

[forest palm]

if you're going to CDC grind you may as well use ships with good Fleet Tech, not ships that give nothing

[normal cedar]

I see
btw most of sakura ships who give lots of tech seem to be gold, does it take longer to do sakura tech than EU or RN?
cuz EU has elite ships like essex or maryland or lexington who give similar tech points but sakura seems to only a few

[forest palm]

no, it's quicker

[normal cedar]

what's the approach players take then..? sakura has a lot of destroyers which dont give much points

I'm asking also cuz the samheart guide doesnt specify tech points for sakura

[weary gust]

Heavier hull and higher rarity = more tech points generally.

IJN has lots of CVs and a fair amount of BBs.

They have a ton of destroyers too so you get tech points just from obtaining them.

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't because you get a lot just from campaign
Mlbing the low rarity ones is a very easy way to gain tech points at low cost

Ofc the purple backliners would be ideal to mlb

[wind hazel]

the approach is to get whatever that is accessible to you, mlb the main fleets before moving to CA, CL then DD

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks a lot everyone!

[warped acorn]

destroyers relies on torpedo to do high dmg?

[wind hazel]

depends on the ship

some rely on gun, some rely on torpedo, some mixed

[warped acorn]

hmm

[hollow gust]

These days the hybrids are the strongest

Pure torp is annoying as fuck and inconsistent

[marsh sparrow]

is retro yuudachi a hybrids

[hollow gust]

Yes

[silk helm]

whens trhe next UR?

[warped acorn]

do i push or get that stage 3 star first

[atomic abyss]

Most likely around CN anniversary in a month

[atomic abyss]

Do both at the same time

[feral salmon]

May I ask what boats have strongest support barrage? - I need 3 back and 3 front for my support fleet.

[inner idol]

Does biscuit still have the voiceline with tirpitz or is that from something else?

[marsh sparrow]

you can open up thread and send your docks screenshots

[hollow gust]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

Out of those there
Musashi Soyuz Alsace have the strongest for backliners

[chilly stone]

So uhm, does Kearsarge have Fate Simulation unlocked?

[atomic abyss]

No

[chilly stone]

Oh, so that's why I couldn't get past Dev 30

Thought I had a glitch for a sec

[marsh sparrow]

is a future content

[atomic abyss]

Regular one does, at least
They aren't removed

Only 4 DRs have fate sim
Azuma, Drake, Haku and FdG

[inner idol]

Oh I couldn't find it so I thought I'd just ask

[echo nexus]

last lot of catchups, havent done any of the 300 for these three yet
who should i go for?

[marsh sparrow]

shimanto

[echo nexus]

alright, ty

[soft raft]

Shimanto's realistically the only PR6 PR that's noteworthy enough to stand out

Flandre is typical SR/PR BB in a Rainbow BB world and Felix's niche as a tanky DD is completely moot if you have Laffey II and/or Z52

[fiery swan]

But it's CB gun I think

[frank pulsar]

cb guns arent that low in caliber
thats a cl gun

nvm it is ca gun

[hallow mountain]

Just got her. Should I use it all up?

[frank pulsar]

i confused it with another cl gun, its a good ca gun option if no cheshire gun or the rainbow ones

[frank pulsar]

personally id just coin her to d30 and then convert all to protocore
but if you do need a tank then yea just use it rn

[hallow mountain]

Nah I don't I have Agir

Just wanted her because she's a really good HE unit

[frank pulsar]

youll only ever need 4 tanks at most and good tanks are abundant nowadays

[hallow mountain]

So protocores?

[frank pulsar]

no she isnt
she has decent dmg for a cb but she cant compete with dedicated dps vanguards

[hallow mountain]

Hmm

Because I tried her simulation and she seems really good

But aight going with protocores

[frank pulsar]

simulation dont mean anything

[eager mulch]

simulation is rigged to make her look good

[hallow mountain]

Damn

[vocal sigil]

what should my backline for hornet meta be? the front is ply/z52/mogador (dont have unzen or guam)

oh i also have alsace musashi and shinano, they dont show up bc they're the current fleet

[hallow mountain]

Should I get her? I wanna get Brest next
Forgot that there's two St. Louis in the game

Can I use Iris Libre girls to farm her?

Or should I just go straight with Brest

And unfortunately my Iris girls arent that great except probably for Richelieu

[zenith heron]

Brest is a go to immediately for me, considering she is a Tank that can heal right

St. Louis is currently alright in terms of use, pretty good against Light armored enemies I believe, and is boosted by her own Augment if finished...

[wind hazel]

considering you only have 7 Brest blueprints, it's pretty much useless

[hallow mountain]

Damn

But consider that I'm a very slow farmer, and I'll probably rack up a lot of BP by then

[wind hazel]

unlock and use as secretary at least great wallpaper

[atomic abyss]

Her healing is a bonus and doesn't actually make her a primary or even secondary healer

[hallow mountain]

Like atm I'm still farming for Kearsage's BPs

Nah I'm getting Brest

[hollow gust]

Why are you jumping around

[atomic abyss]

Impla Amagi Haku
Bear in mind you'll need to sync

If you're too lazy to sync, NJ FdG Vanguard

[vocal sigil]

ty

[hollow gust]

Could run Fritz instead of haku

[inner idol]

Wait in order to get the sortie with tirpitz vl on bis does it have to be just them two only? Or is it just a chance?

[hollow gust]

Bismarck basically negates Tirpitz anti BB requirement , although using either is pretty bad

[inner idol]

Doesn't that change with her mod?

[hollow gust]

No?

[eternal basalt]

IB BB count either way Augment does that, thought her ancient buff did it

[inner idol]

That's what I thought had me bugging for a little bit

Wish they worded it in a way that doesn't make me feel like a 3 year old

So just to clarify, you can use ib with her right or am I still dumb?@eternal basalt

[hollow gust]

It makes her less reliant on Bismarck , her best friend is still Bismarck

[inner idol]

Because her new mod remove the limitations she used to have right?

I never use them that much I have no idea

[eternal basalt]

Yes, but ONLY IB

[inner idol]

Right ok got it

But back to the voiceline thing, do bis and tirp have to be the only ones in main or can you have anyone as long as tirpitz is there with her to get her unique line?

[plain saffron]

as long as the partner is there

[hollow gust]

You can just run solo Tirpitz

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Bismarck/Quotes

[inner idol]

Oh ok I'm just unlucky not getting it then

[eternal basalt]

(Do note it's ONLY BisI, they haven't updated it for use with BisII)

[inner idol]

Yeah I'm aware currently trying to finish prs rn

[wary hawk]

Is that a jojo reference

[outer cedar]

yo what does this mean?

[hollow gust]

Your filters are setup wrong

[outer cedar]

whats wrong with it?

[plain saffron]

keep enough to max LB, and accidental retire to on

i think you just don't have any that fill the reqs anymore

bcs those common are not mlb

[normal cedar]

1. If I'm understanding this Ryuuhou skill correctly, per battle each of the first 3 airstrike will heal 18% HP ot the lowest HP ship right? So 3 airstrikes in total have the maximum capacity to heal 54% single target over the course of battle?
2. Are Ryuuhou and Shouhou considered the best healers at 3rd place after Unicorn retro and Perseus?

[hollow gust]

Well healing isn't additive

[normal cedar]

assume all ships have 100% hp except for one ship which has 1% hp, in that case Ryuuhou's heals always target the same ship? So it should be additive?

for a single airstrike atleast, the first airstrike from the 3 which provide heals

[hollow gust]

Actually no I'm wrong in this case , it's percentage healing from Ryuuhou HP

[atomic abyss]

ryuuhou is considered a secondary healer and cannot be compared with percy/uni/shouhou

[hollow gust]

The reason she isn't very popular is

1. Single target healing
2. Percentage of personal HP is strong for low HP ships but much much weaker for higher HP ships

[atomic abyss]

aquila, volga, zuihou can all do the same thing as her, but are just flat out better in other means

so she wld be considered the 4th best secondary healer

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks a lot! Also was my math correct?

[hollow gust]

And yeah her personal contributions is mediocre

[atomic abyss]

it isnt wrong (i think), but it's very misleading to look at it that way

[hollow gust]

Its base off her Hp so you will have to consider her stats

[atomic abyss]

and you have to note, allied surface ship with lowest HP%

which has the caveat of possibly going to a backliner

and unless you're musashi who's soaking up extra hits due to her skill

that probably isnt going to be very useful

[meager tiger]

for bossing carriers in single target scenarios, are torpedo bombers better than dive bombers or fighters for damage on ships that can run different plane types in the same slot? or would it depend on enemy armor type

assuming timing isnt an issue

because i have multiple tenrai/skyraider/la9 copies and im wondering what the optimal loadout is for some ships

[atomic abyss]

converging TBs for heavy
rocket fighters for light/med

[normal cedar]

I see, that is indeed true
I was thinking it could possibly be useful if one of our vanguard ships is severly underleveled
In that case, running her along with unicorn could help that one under leveled ship survive even at higher levels
Say level 70 vanguard mlb, will probably die at 11-1 even if in safe position and even with perseus and unicorn double healer while above may work?

[meager tiger]

[atomic abyss]

yes, but the issue is, you dont actually use healers for grinding exp

[meager tiger]

ryuusei is still bis for damage for TBs assuming all torpedoes hit right? not counting the new pr7 tb that people dont have a lot of

[atomic abyss]

if you exclude the blue vit-2 from PR7, yes ryuusei

[normal cedar]

wait what? how do the low leveled ships survive then? I thought healers were necessary for grinding, I might not be familiar with how other players grind

[atomic abyss]

you just dont use healers

[meager tiger]

it has a blue variant? i thought it was gold

[atomic abyss]

(the plane itself is blue coloured, not the rarity)

there is a white vit-2 from PR5 - hence the distinction

[normal cedar]

you mean you just go so hard on dps that there is no need to heal?

[jaunty vault]

there is a white rarity?

[atomic abyss]

the reason we grind w12, is because vanguard pressure is so weak that healing isnt or shouldnt be necessary

[jaunty vault]

you don't need healers in 12-1 that's why

[atomic abyss]

otherwise, your healer would be capped on exp very very quickly

[meager tiger]

noted. was wondering why j didnt have any until i realized i had 13 i could craft and never did

[jaunty vault]

poggies

[normal cedar]

damn, I didn't know world 12 was that much different, thanks for explaining

[atomic abyss]

w11 is high on vanguard pressure because of the 2k HP suicide boats

[hollow gust]

It's easier to run 1 fleet for w11

[viscid swift]

W12 is not that difficult

[atomic abyss]

for me the issue with w11 is that you need to bring a BB/C

[normal cedar]

um what are those screenshots supposed to mean?

[atomic abyss]

most shitty comps work for 12-1

is what it means

[viscid swift]

that's my W12 farming fleet right now

[atomic abyss]

in this case, since cheeky has run out of backliners to level

he's doing that

[hollow gust]

That's pretty not shitty , using Raffey Akashi and Klaudia

[atomic abyss]

which is not a very good example

[hollow gust]

At that point just run Musashi Aquila Unicorn

[normal cedar]

that's what I was thinking lol, but did you run the vanguard on the same fleet from level 70? or start post level 100?

[keen sable]

Why only 3 70 or 3 100

I do 1 70 and 2 110

[normal cedar]

No, like the point of my question was can you run 3 level 70 vanguard at 12-1? Or do you gotta run them with higher level ships first till they reach 100

[hollow gust]

With a OP enough backline , easily

[whole crypt]

I can't post shitty ch12 comps because I'm speed running it with Aquila/Luna/Unicorn

[normal cedar]

wow, I see thats very convenient

[hollow gust]

Aquila Raffy Volga can carry a lot of bullshit

[keen sable]

Just put what works for you. Don't think to much about it. L1 works for me.

[viscid swift]

I have gimped 2 of them so they are literally doing nothing

[atomic abyss]

the point is

you can go without healers entirely

[whole crypt]

if you're leveling vanguards in the 70s I might want Unicorn

[viscid swift]

99% of the time Raffello does not fire

and I've run the comp without Klaudia when I have 2 main fleets leveling

it survives just fine with lower level ships

[whole crypt]

but also depends on the ship I guess

[hollow gust]

HP heals like Volga are really strong on them though

[whole crypt]

that works too, actually Zuihou works too

[honest sequoia]

does anyone know why emden has AA stat but no AA gun ?

[whole crypt]

I just have the slight issue of needing the fleet to do boss as well

[keen sable]

So she doesn't sink when a bomb hits her

[whole crypt]

AA stat also reduces AVI damage, even if you don't have AA guns to shoot planes

[hollow gust]

AA stats still provides benefits , for example avi damage

[whole crypt]

this is why carriers also have AA

[honest sequoia]

didnt know AA stat reduces aircraft dmg

i thought that just was anti air only 😭

[snow wren]

hi

is there pc client for the game?

[tame jungle]

nope

[whole crypt]

no

[tame jungle]

best we can do is download emulator

[whole crypt]

playing on emulators is 100% legit though

[hushed sorrel]

just know that the emulators are kinda ineffecient.

they need lots of pc power

[snow wren]

hmm ok thanks

[tame jungle]

not really that much but yes it's considerably inefficient

[eternal basalt]

Doesn't Emden have a really crappy ghost AA-gun like the Chinese ships have?

[snow wren]

game size is 4 gb?

[honest sequoia]

yea just like warspite with a ghost ASW

[atomic abyss]

game size with data all in is about 22GB

[honest sequoia]

and maybe a non existent 90 lck stat

[eternal basalt]

To be changed 8 may (for JP anyways)

[forest palm]

I'm fairly certain AL is over 22 GB with all assets

[snow wren]

i just saw gamplay it is only 2 d shooter why 22 gb?

[eternal basalt]

Apple user? Its higher for them

[tame jungle]

there's 30 million pngs

[forest palm]

Comics, Audio Files, L2D Files, Map Files...what else...

[viscid swift]

voicelines, skins, etc take up a lot of space

[forest palm]

the Audio Files I imagine are what take a bulk of the space

cause you have like 800 ships with unique dialogue

[eternal basalt]

Event files images

[atomic abyss]

audio is about 6gb

[atomic abyss]

its basically this

[tame jungle]

i counted them all

[forest palm]

I imagine it's a little more than 6GBs as there is some mandatory audio files you have to download like ambient sounds, gun fire, and so on

[atomic abyss]

Fair
I shd have clarified 6GB is just for voice lines

[eternal basalt]

The awesome music

[vale spindle]

Nope

[whole crypt]

that only makes sense if your PC is only on for nothing besides AL

[hushed sorrel]

a programm doesnt need less if you do more. it still needs the same.

[inner idol]

How good is kron nowadays? Is she still usable?

[eternal basalt]

There are better CBs

[hollow gust]

She is a CB, always a top tier meta tank

[jaunty vault]

definitely usable

[inner idol]

Good I just a reason to using slightly older urs

[cobalt rapids]

shes not top but shes UR

[hollow gust]

Although you really shouldn't be investing in her if you are a newbie

[inner idol]

Not new

[atomic abyss]

very good, but there are even better tanks that are more easily accessible/raised

[inner idol]

I've always wondered who the top tanks are

[sweet delta]

According to research, highest DPS CB

[atomic abyss]

top tanks would be napoli, anchorage and agir

honourable mention to eldridge retro for making everyone noticeably tankier

[cobalt rapids]

top tank is the highest dmg contribution that survives till needed

[eternal basalt]

LaffeyII

[inner idol]

Electric boogaloo

[hollow gust]

Guam , has much more unity

[sweet delta]

Fr Sirius

[cobalt rapids]

ong

[atomic abyss]

i never said she was the next best tank

[hollow gust]

Best tanks are Plymouth Z52

[whole crypt]

yes the PC will take more power running an emulator than not running one
yes also it's less efficient than just running an actual native android device
no I don't see the problem of running it on a PC unless you're telling the power bill is a problem

as it stands a PC client doesn't exist so if you had to do it on a computer it's either on an emulator or you just don't play it at all

[inner idol]

Alot of names for tanks that I did not expect to see🙃

[whole crypt]

for real the best tank is just the highest DPS/utility ship that will survive in that slot

[viscid swift]

Mogador

[whole crypt]

which ship to actually use depends what you have and what you're doing

[inner idol]

Who would be highest dps cl?

[viscid swift]

Plymouth usually, Bayard if you're mobbing I guess

[inner idol]

Bayard is pr right?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[whole crypt]

Plymouth should still generally be better and even higher if you include a flag BB for the buff margin

[tame orchid]

Not sandy?

[viscid swift]

No

[inner idol]

Now I just need to actually get them

[hollow gust]

Sandy is like 10-15% worst then Plymouth

[whole crypt]

also Harbin exists

[slow fox]

slander

[little tree]

Is bay that cracked ?

[atomic abyss]

yeep

[little tree]

Heavy armor tanks are dead embrace dd light tanks.

[atomic abyss]

but do bear in mind CLs arent as good on the DPS front in relative to DDs or CAs

[atomic abyss]

if anything, DD tanks were the 2019-2020 meta

since yukikaze was thought to be one of the best tanks at the time

[little tree]

Tbf heavy tanks are dead due to the amount of torpedoes in late stage chapters

Like agir blows up after like 1 mob fight in w 15

[atomic abyss]

that's why brest was used up till guam came out

[normal cedar]

izumo outright better than monarch? deciding which one to develop in pr1

[little tree]

Monarch is bad

[atomic abyss]

saint louis is the easiest to develop since she uses US ships

roon would be beneficial because of ironblood tech

[little tree]

Roon with aug should do u well til 15

[atomic abyss]

izumo is outright better than monarch yes
...with her augment

[sweet delta]

Surely monarch will get augment before September

[little tree]

Just like agir fs 5

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks
I finished saint so I was going to switch dev target from neptune since I unlocked all pr1 now
maybe roon once I get ironblood vanguard

[crimson glacier]

monarch deserved her retirement after years of work

[little tree]

[atomic abyss]

more like get fdg and anchorage

[little tree]

Fdg is very important get her next

[keen sable]

Move on?

[steel gale]

Is there a general recommendation for choosing Shinano vs Vanguard on the 400 construction pity?

[little tree]

Nano

[atomic abyss]

shinano

[sweet delta]

I'd say if you have amagi CV then Shinano else if you dont have 3 of the top 6 bossing BBs then vanguard else whatever

[steel gale]

ty all!

[little tree]

Sushi misinformation

Whats the tool you use to see dmg on guns

[eternal basalt]

Gamefile damage numbers

[little tree]

Is it the fleet topl that tells you roughly how much dmg a certain gun will do on a ship

Should of clarified that

[fast frigate]

any news on upcoming update

[eternal basalt]

We... got the patchnotes already? https://azurlane.jp/news/682

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[little tree]

Thank you

[fast frigate]

didn’t see it lol

are there no english version

[viscid swift]

there will be tomorrow, those are the JP patch notes, just use google translate

[normal cedar]

has this been done before? do you reckon it will have lv 125 enemy like ex frostfall

[sweet delta]

It'll have like level 110 enemies and 7 mob battles before the boss spawns

[atomic abyss]

SP maps for major events have been going on since 2019
so no not new

[little tree]

Sp maps are with any 120 fleet

[eternal basalt]

800 currency, once a day. Remember Frostfall ALSO has a SP

[normal cedar]

do we get more of these going ahead? as we level up or something that is

[cobalt rapids]

yes theres a few repeatable sources for general prints like events and medals but they are not the main income for prints

[forest palm]

going ahead for like the next 3(?) months it'll be Series 7 General BPs, then switch to Series 8 for new events, next reruns I want to say 3 or so reruns will be Series 5 then they switch over to Series 6

[eternal basalt]

You can buy 30 of them them thursday

[steep sleet]

This is my battelion,Shall I make any upgrade for it ?it can't clear 3-2 or event 2nd match

[atomic abyss]

it's pretty bad

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

refer to this instead

[stone sluice]

What are the 4 LA-9 fleets to beat Hornet meta?

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

[stone sluice]

[drifting kelp]

I've been using this site for crafting

[wary timber]

HVAR hellcat vs BF109G. whats better against Hornet Meta

[hollow gust]

BF

[wary timber]

got it. german engineering it is

[wheat ore]

when should i start doing op si? to my knowledge it doesn't use oil so it shouldn't interfere with my campaign push

[keen sable]

as soon as you feel comfortable

some people can tolerate only having L80 ships. some feel better with L100 ships.

[wheat ore]

do I need 2 fleets?

cuz i only have 1 and they are all above lvl 105

[keen sable]

unicorn is very bad against some stuff

[wheat ore]

oh right 😭

[keen sable]

imo you should be looking at that second fleet

[terse roost]

Do we got a pvp tier list

[keen sable]

#pvp

[jaunty vault]

yes

check the channel pins

[terse roost]

Ah alr thx

[jaunty vault]

well it's more of a guide

[flint fiber]

hi I need help with my pick I’m not entirely sure who to go for or who’s good that’ll help me further on in the game

[eternal basalt]

Shinano

[little tree]

Nano

[sweet delta]

Vanguard

[elfin hollow]

Is there any place where I can find a summary of how Azur Lane’s stat formulas work? Or at least some kind of reference for what counts as a good base stat?
Like, I know that for AA, around 250 is average:
– Below 200 is bad and just good for fleet speed
– 200–350 is normal
– Above 350 is AA carry

But when it comes to defensive stats, what matters more: evasion or luck? And what kind of values should I be aiming for?

This whole question came up because my friend and I were comparing Roon μ and Tallinn

Roon μ has 0 Luck (but more HP)
while Tallinn has 80 Luck.

[sweet delta]

No

Also AA stat doesn't mean much, because the ship's AA gun efficiency and skills make a difference of double or half for example

[flint fiber]

Is there a reason for vanguard?

[sweet delta]

As for defensive stats there is a spreadsheet calculating tankiness for vanguard ships , including stats and skills and armor type and stuff
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc

[sweet delta]

Much easier to use than Shinano, because Vanguard works with any other two BBs, while Shinano prefers 3 IJN ships and isn't so good against light armor bosses

Also shinano's best friend amagi CV won't be back for another like 1.5 year

[jaunty vault]

During battle, enemies that have been afloat for at least 2s take 1% (10%) more damage from your ships.

[elfin hollow]

So insane
Tysm

[jaunty vault]

When this ship finishes loading her Main Guns: 50% (100%) chance to fire a special barrage (damage scales with skill level). Additionally, all enemies on screen take 3.5% (8%) increased damage from your BBs and BCs for 6s.

[sweet delta]

Not really insane considering she does a lot less damage than other UR BBs, but she's still top 3-5 for bossing BBs

Oh different person, you're saying Mebot is insane?

[jaunty vault]

are bots sane

[viscid swift]

Not an inaccurate statement

[flint fiber]

Is vanguard gonna be in ur selection from now on or is she limited time?

[jaunty vault]

permanent

[vale spindle]

Shes permanently in the UR selection

All UR ships from events that are in war archives are permanently in gacha and in the selection

[flint fiber]

Ok thx cause I’m somewhat new and started couple months back ago and I’ve been on and off with the game and been stuck at 5-2 and I’ve been needing a good ur

[vale spindle]

Well URs need investment otherwise they also suck just like other ships and as a new player that investment is hard to reach

[little tree]

I still always vote nano vanguard is eaily replace able for chapters

[flint fiber]

Ok well since I don’t have amgai I’m guessing Shinano is off the table? so should I pick new jersey or vanguard?

[sweet delta]

But Shinano is also easily replaceable in chapters

[sweet delta]

Vanguard is just better than NJ for most intents and purposes . Shinano is an option but you'll need haku and Kazagumo to make the best use of her

[little tree]

[flint fiber]

Welp looks like vanguard is the winner since I don’t have either of those characters lol

[keen sable]

inb4 musashi better than penny at all investments

[silent viper]

hi angels, I'm super duper sorry to bother, but I was wondering if there's some kind of a new player guide/resource center for AL that I could be referred to? I really wanna get into the game but I can't seem to find any educational/informative content!!

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Give that a read

[dark turret]

which should i develop next?

[warped acorn]

is saint louis good

[hollow gust]

Pretty solid with augment

[meager tiger]

depends on what ships you already have

roon is a solid tank, monarch is a good BB for newish players getting their first PR ships, and ibuki has solid frontloaded damage with double preload torpedoes

but all of them will be phased out eventually by higher PR/DR ships and banner URs

[hollow gust]

Monarch is not worth getting

[meager tiger]

royal navy slander

[forest palm]

outdated BB from 7 years ago...

[hollow gust]

Izumo: decent bb but is worse then other high end SR BB
Roon Ibuki Saint Louis : DPS CAs with damage close to Drake
Neptune: solid mob tank CL
Monarch : Augmentless 2016 BB

Unfortunately she was op back then so her fate sim sucks balls too. Have to wait for augment

[forest palm]

Imma laugh if her UE just further buffs her healing

[hollow gust]

All they need to do is change barrage coefficient and proc rate . Her base guns are good already

[stark quiver]

2016

[meager tiger]

monarch slanderers coping that she has a better design

[dark turret]

ive been needing tank so roon it is

[solar canopy]

will there be a new UR event?

[stark quiver]

Maybe sometime end of may-ish

[hollow gust]

[elfin hollow]

Is this really worth working for.

[solar canopy]

ahh okay

[viscid swift]

not really

[viscid swift]

Monarch isn't good in 2025, end of discussion, you can cope in #al-general

[elfin hollow]

Alright, I’ll just save for tomorrow.

[meager tiger]

[viscid swift]

or do you want to put your money where your mouth is

[meager tiger]

[stark quiver]

Maint tonight?

[sweet delta]

Today is Tuesday

[quartz breach]

Can level 120 Pittsburgh serve as the leftmost position tank in a vanguard for OpSi or get someone else?

[sweet delta]

She's tankier than Portland but not CBs and Anchorage and Napoli

[vagrant creek]

what should alsace need to usin?

[viscid swift]

usual BB gear

[dreamy blade]

Neptune is a better tank, roon is more dmg oriented

[whole crypt]

only after augment and most players that say they need to work on PR1 for a tank will be perfectly fine with Portland, not to mention it'll take a while before you can finish a research ship

[sinful escarp]

unlocking a PR ship is less than half of the process

getting the blueprints to enhance them is the one that is needed most

[whole crypt]

that being said though if it's just not to idle research just pick whichever is easiest, preferably something you can progress without changing up your current fleet since it's likely still fairly early in the game

when you reach the point that you actually need another tank maybe Anchorage is already available

[dark turret]

i mean true i got good tanks but its still good to have since thats what i have least of

also got her while farming levels

[whole crypt]

if you're farming levels at 3-4 you're wasting oil

unless you really can't go higher

[stark quiver]

+1 or 2 avi right there

[whole crypt]

which is basically irrelevant for early game and you're just holding back progression

[polar lion]

Back in the day, I run mlb Phoenix + mahan + starter/lvling fodder frontline. They are ez to mlb and serve me well until I get better stuffs to lvl and replace.

Portland ends up in boss fleet a soon she's lvled.

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething starter fleet portland/starter/(helena/sandy) until ch9

[dark turret]

yeah i cant go, i only have one fleet that can do 9-1

[polar lion]

And I was spamming 7-4 back then for the '?' to farm coins like madmen in order to spend them all to buy gold tech boxes in shop

[whole crypt]

if you can do 9-1 then you should do 9-1

[dark turret]

but im doing a 1:1 fleet rn to get my new urs up while i watch a movie, they’re like level 45

[whole crypt]

yes but that's beed dead for years

[whole crypt]

which is just really inefficient compared to leveling at ch9+

[dark turret]

how can i level them up if they cant survive?

[whole crypt]

if you can do ch9 at all sandwich them among ships that can keep them alive
if they can't then level those ships up higher first and you can use XP packs or dorm for the lower ships meanwhile

[dark turret]

yk ur so right, thanks goat

[dreamy blade]

Pvp is decent xp for low level ships too

[whole crypt]

also do you actually have enough UR bulins, because if not then you're kind of wasting your time with them now

[dark turret]

i just got two

[whole crypt]

then forget about leveling the URs first

you can't MLB them anyway even when you get them up to 70

[dark turret]

isnt their max level 100 regardless?

[whole crypt]

125 if you include awaken but that's besides the point

ships lose a large part of their performance without LBs

URs aren't exempt from this

[polar lion]

I mean what do u guys rec these days for newbies that need to prep their fleet with decent lvls and gears in order to push till 9-1? I imagine buying tech boxes is still one of the better ways to get gears quickly

[whole crypt]

I just said 70 because that's the lowest you can MLB ships

you spend enough coins as it is on research LB and retrofits, buying boxes is a waste of coins

the starter template is basically Pennsylvania(swap to Hood/Nelson)/Unicorn/(whatever decent third main fleet you get)/Portland/Starter/Helena

[viscid swift]

the level cap isn't the issue with the lack of limit breaks

[whole crypt]

Helena nowadays though I might recommend replacing with Sandy if you get her early

because Sandy aug is just pog even if you can't fully retrofit her

also less transition into working on AA as you go up

[dreamy blade]

only event shop tech boxes imo

[polar lion]

Hmm, I still think tech boxes is still an afterthought there coz there are soo many better stuffs to prioritize buying with the event pts

[whole crypt]

only if you're really new, you get gold/purple boxes out of regular farming anyway

[sinful escarp]

yeah, even when i just started i barely touched the tech boxes and i got the budget gears anyways

[whole crypt]

the shop gold boxes are only "worth" if you're so devoid of gear almost anything you pull of the boxes will help you farm the event better

[dreamy blade]

my main point was that theyre pretty cheap with event points and never worth spending coins on

[warped seal]

Hey anyone got tips on recovering a lost account, I used the apple login thing like 2 years ago but it ain’t working anymore

[forest palm]

check you choose the correct server, if that fails contact support if you have acc information (especially helps if you spent money and have a receipt), not a lot we can do here

[sinful escarp]

account info like UID

[warped seal]

Okok will try that

I got some receipts too hopefully I’ll be fine ain’t no way I’m hustling for the 2 fox sisters again

[marsh sparrow]

does AnShan buff also apply to herself

[viscid swift]

yes

[polar lion]

It's just that when some newbies show their fleet gearing it's just too sedge. And when we tell them to keep pushing never stopping anywhere till 9-1, they can't coz they are dying. And when they showed their depot to fix their gearing, the stuffs they had are also too sedge

[viscid swift]

I mean they can't continuously push anyway because of commander level gates

so by necessity they have to park somwhere and farm for a bit

levels and limit breaks are powerful in it of themselves

[slow fox]

delusional

[sweet delta]

Wrong ping

[mild heath]

After watching some videos i learned that Perseus is better than Unicorn for healing, so i thought "cool story". Than i learned i have Perseus in my dock (at lvl 47 already). Anyways.....should i focus on lvling her asap?

[wind hazel]

you watched a wrong video

[weary gust]

1. Perseus is not better than Unicorn for healing.
2. Don't watch youtube videos for Azur Lane advice. They are at best outdated by years, at worst complete misinformation, usually both.

[little tree]

~~ Prinz Eugen is the best Early game tank for new players ~~
Kind of Info

[mild heath]

Ah ok

[stuck owl]

Is this worth it?

[wind hazel]

pretty worth it if you're a spender

[hollow gust]

Honestly best deal for day 1 newbies

[tidal yacht]

Why are SE and NP points linked? Is there historic significance?

[dreamy blade]

gameplay wise it's to make it easier since the factions are smaller
for an actual answer #al-lore probably better to ask

[tidal yacht]

Isn't Iris the same size

I don't remember if iris pry is eagle or not though

Strange system

[light trail]

i have a ton of UR gear design plans so time to ask again what would be good to go for next? iirc I was told a while ago to go for AA then DD then mk7, but idk if i should get 3 of the AA guns before going for a DD gun or if i can just do whatever i want, idk

[viscid swift]

what do you mean linked
they're not

[tidal yacht]

AN needs both for research

[sharp socket]

more frog AA if you're going for w15, 3rd wyvern if you need it, mk7/twin 100 kai when needed

[viscid swift]

who knows, for the smaller factions they always come up with some random combos for the tech point requirements

[sweet delta]

What videos say persus is better than unicorn

[light trail]

that helps, thanks

[eager mulch]

what class is archerfish

[tidal yacht]

NL will use royal navy, thats my prediction

[eager mulch]

Gato right?

[viscid swift]

they're not even consistent with it either, Chkalov needed EU tech points as well as NP

[light trail]

says balao on wiki

[eager mulch]

Balao

[viscid swift]

who knows like I said, only time will tell

[eager mulch]

who’s time?

[vital quest]

i dont remember if i asked this recently so if i did forgive me, but what is the ideal aux for shimakaze and yuudachi?

[hollow gust]

shima,
i guess just use hammer for her, and sword for yuudachi

[vital quest]

what about aux gear?

[hollow gust]

stack HP

[vital quest]

um, whats that? repair kit?

okay then i'll probably ignore yuudachi aux cuz I already gave her maxed Anti-EM aux.

[slow fox]

[honest sequoia]

I rmb in one of kimo old videos he said that

Prolly years ago

[slow fox]

In Jimmy's recent video he claims Perseus is better than Akashi.

[weak moat]

When does game time reset

[sinful escarp]

somewhat true because akashi sells us good stuff in opsi while persues is just a ship that heals

[sinful escarp]

3hrs 51mins

[weak moat]

Also what’s the fastest way to get more dorm coin and what do I buy from the coin shop

[sinful escarp]

just keep running comissions
and if you are talking about dorm coin shop, expansions

for the dorm you want to have 3 slots and 2nd floor dorm

you can only buy the 2nd floor dorm when dorms have been fully expanded. the size NOT the ship slots

[weak moat]

I just bought a 3rd slot for first floor

So I Shld get the 2nd floor?

[sinful escarp]

yes, that way you will have 6 ships in dorms always

2nd floor mirrors how many slots the 1st floor has

with 6 slots your leveling fleet will always be in dorms and recover morale faster and able to get the morale bonus

[vital quest]

does commission EXP stack for cog awk?

[stark quiver]

No

[sinful elk]

Chat which cv can take on sevastopol in the EX stage (except for amagi and shinano)

[weak moat]

I Shld try to buy all tactical training slots right

[viscid swift]

No

[sinful escarp]

2 slots is more than enough
anymore is a huge waste

[atomic abyss]

Extreme waste of gems
Even veterans don't actually use all of them

It's either they run out of books (if they don't whale much)
Or they end up levelling the skills of ships they don't actually use

[whole crypt]

you mostly just prioritize good ships or ships you're currently using, additional slots won't help you level the same ship faster

and yes you will end up leveling useless ships eventually

but you don't really run out of books nowadays, not with 3 slots at least

[vivid robin]

don't call them useless, they're uhhh not in use

[whole crypt]

gph moment

[atomic abyss]

Mostly useless is not wrong

[whole crypt]

for the record I'm literally leveling skills on fodder 120s now because all ships less than 120 already have their skills maxed

[vivid robin]

I should keep running commissions 24/7

[atomic abyss]

Yes, you should

Maybe not at the cost of your sleep but you should keep them running constantly where possible

Just not the 1.2k oil ones

[vivid robin]

noted

[whole crypt]

keeping commisions up can be a problem if time zones are not in your favour

[stark quiver]

100% uptime is psycopath stuff

[whole crypt]

well night comms are actually at night here but I'd still idle sometimes like if it's early evening and I'm stuck with 6-8 hour stuff and can game for short urgent comms still

that or just not checking in on comms when busy with work

[vivid robin]

I would wait for the 6-8 cubes commission

they're so worth it

[whole crypt]

that's the oil consuming ones, you don't take the long comms to roll for one with cubes

[vivid robin]

it's pretty easy to get oil anyways

j could get one for the weekly packs

[whole crypt]

it isn't when you grind heavily

[vivid robin]

true

[whole crypt]

and XP/coin gain is better with the oil spent on grinding

it's okay for earlier players when you don't spend oil fast enough, but I wouldn't continuously game it for cubes

[vital quest]

should azuma have greatsword or lance?

[stark quiver]

greatsword mostly

[vital quest]

okay good, that's what I have

what about for guam? i've given her lance since she doesn't have trp, is this right decision?

[stark quiver]

greatsword is just better for ehp

keeping it here will be fine

[vital quest]

aight cheers, so I have a 4 team comp i've made

[stark quiver]

thats what this channel is for anywyas

[sinful escarp]

if its really going to take a lot of chats, then make a thread

[viscid swift]

Not like Hit and AA will be better for her than FP

[sinful escarp]

so you wont have to bother with the slowmode

[vital quest]

Roster Efficiency

[hallow mountain]

Is Richelieu a good girl

[viscid swift]

Not really

[mild sail]

If farm should I do coalition or solo?

[dreamy blade]

+2 fp

[normal cedar]

generally for point shop events, how many points do veteran players manage to farm over two weeks?

[dreamy blade]

55k for the last gold plates milestone

[whole crypt]

depends on event and shop

[stark quiver]

i farmed 170k event pts in 5 days

that does not mean you should tho
realistically i shouldve stopped at 160k, but i wanted some tool kits so

[dreamy blade]

Hvar farm is the exception not the rule

[normal cedar]

hmm, do they full clear shop? is it even possible to full clear the shop?

[dreamy blade]

Also depends on how much oil you have saved or willing to dip into mail

[stark quiver]

no
and yes

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks

[stark quiver]

theres like some stuff that u dont need
Like all 5 copies of a map drop ship
unless you do like fleetpower or cba to use bulins
tech boxes, because youre old and have a lot
coins bc well, youll prob be overcaping on them anyways
rare cat boxes

id argue that you dont need to grab the gold general bps
but theres 2 sides to it so

[dreamy blade]

Oxycola

[weak moat]

If I don’t use the units their mood will automatically go up right

[dreamy blade]

To 119 if not dormed yes

[whole crypt]

they regen morale even while you use them, you just tend to use it faster than you regen

it'll regen slower up to 119 if not in dorm, faster up to 150 if in dorm

[viscid swift]

can I just say, when you run out of a need for PR prints and such, the dupes become a really handy way of saving bullins

[whole crypt]

dorm 2F is slightly faster still, but no passive XP

I'd still take prints first for proto cores, depending on current progression

[viscid swift]

oh I am specifically reffering to me in that case

[whole crypt]

also some dupes is already better than no dupes, if you can't get all copies, plus map drops unless you're lowcosting

[stark quiver]

i would agree yea
but i havent gotten there yet
and uhh dock

[whole crypt]

you'll be fine just play for 5 more years 👴

[fickle hollow]

Ryusei ,Vit-2,Ju-87 Which one should i +13

[polar lion]

The one that u use the most first to get the timings u need

[sweet delta]

You can start with one each. And saiun

[fickle hollow]

i already have 1 Ju-87 at +13 ig i will do 1 Vit-2 now

[zenith heron]

as a Firepower Damage Dealer

Mogador really prefers her own gun right? Rather than the UR IJN DD Gun?

[cobalt gate]

ugh i hate this sp event

[stark quiver]

just 1:1 normal coalition to 15k

[hollow gust]

its 3 simple fleets, not hard

[fickle hollow]

What works Better with Shinano and Amagi
AvP or Nakhimov+ Vorsohilov/Tashkent(I dont have Soyuz and Implacable)

[hollow gust]

just use ark royal and use nahkimov for another fleet

[stark quiver]

avp if enemy moves a good amount
mostly stationairy nakh heself is fine

[zenith heron]

I'd choose AvP, but it might vary...

[hollow gust]

its a waste of nahkimov to use her unbuffed

[viscid swift]

Unless you really everything to hit I'd pair her with Eldridge and call it a day

[hollow gust]

Shinano Amagi ArkRoyal/Haku Elridge
Nahkimov Yorktown Enty Voro

[polar lion]

How long is Eld slow again?

[fickle hollow]

I dont have Elridge Retrofit item

[hollow gust]

Just use Ark

[fickle hollow]

I dont like her

[hollow gust]

Just use avp

[fickle hollow]

Ig i will use Shinano-Amagi-Avp
Nahkimov Yorktown/fritz Enty Voro

[stark quiver]

i said that earlier

[hollow gust]

usng avp is damage loss, in heavy

[stark quiver]

yea but not like they have other options that theyre willing to use

[viscid swift]

Meh, who gives a sh*t about personal preferences when victory is all that matters

[crimson glacier]

i give 🙂

[fickle hollow]

what armor type is the Arbiter this month

[quick mason]

The 2nd anchor is my boss fighter in sorting

Anyways it's fine right just needs lv ups

[cobalt rapids]

nelson and hood flag besides some questionable choices

also swap tako and roon because she doesnt need the mob xp anymore

[quick mason]

Swap wdym?

[cobalt rapids]

roon go mob
tako go boss

[quick mason]

Build another one?

Ohhh

Alright

Why hood and nelson should be in flag?

[crimson glacier]

they doint aim with barrage, they shoot straight

being on the middle covers the most space

[quick mason]

Ohhh

Alright thanks

[vital quest]

will agir get fate sim anytime soon or nah?

[quick mason]

Should I just not replace my yellow shell on my Royal navy or just use W/B shell instead

An auto loader on my hood for spam barrage

SHOULD I? AUGHHH IT HAS HIGHER RELOAD!!!

[hollow gust]

[plain saffron]

You can't really "spam"

[quick mason]

What

[plain saffron]

Like if you use faster gun and end up shooting same amount of salvo as "slower" gun you just losing dmg

Those 0.11s likely not gonna make a diff

[quick mason]

So The 406mm is better?

[plain saffron]

Yeah, look at the dmg alone

You're losing so much

[quick mason]

133 × 2 max dmg

Dawg that's a lot

[dreamy blade]

Do I keep choosing shinano since I already started her or grab vanguards instead since I'm lacking BBs

[quick mason]

WHY YOU DON'T HAVE NEW JERSEY :((

[dreamy blade]

[hollow gust]

Where you missing good BBs? You literally have Raffy Musashi and FDG

[stark quiver]

cuz she isnt good for that dock situation

[quick mason]

WAIT IS THAT FRIEDRICH

[dreamy blade]

And of those 3 only musashi is good at bossing?

[quick mason]

BRO SHE IS OP

[hollow gust]

Tf?

[oblique canyon]

I think the only viable "barrage spam" gun is the Odin Gun

[hollow gust]

FDG and Raffy are more then capable enough

[stark quiver]

shes not

[quick mason]

You only have 3 BBs

[hollow gust]

Just stop

[oblique canyon]

No?

[plain saffron]

Max shinano

[quick mason]

Yea

[hollow gust]

Spamming barrages is a joke , only viable gun that can get a extra barrage out is 457

[stark quiver]

no
a good gun will be 457 or twin 410 kai
youre honestly better using a good damage gun in most PvE situations

[hollow gust]

Either way level your Raffey and you will be more then good enough for bossing

Shinano Amagi Implacable makes one of the best fleets ingame

[quick mason]

Real bruh I haven't even lv up shinano since 2023

[oblique canyon]

I've learned something today. I've never used it it just sits on Odin for flavor lol

[hollow gust]

Take it to general

Raffey is more capable then NJ in every content

[quick mason]

I didn't said use NJ

[dreamy blade]

im only using raff for nahk cdc, she is 0 LB and im waiting for CN anni since i only have 4 ur bulins atm

[hollow gust]

Just cause she is more mob focus doesn't make her poor at bossing

[dreamy blade]

and i've also had less than stellar results using fdg for bossing although that is probably bc i dont have much bb hit tech yet

[hollow gust]

Just the correct guns for the correct armor type and she does perfectly fine

[dreamy blade]

when i used her vs hornet meta with raff gun she did literally half of musashis damage

[hollow gust]

[stark quiver]

i do wonder

[zenith heron]

[solid marten]

hello, sorry if its a stupid question. I am a very new player (1 month) and I am struggling with dock space, should i retire the blue units? also, is it normal to suffer as a new player in chapter 10 or i am probably doing something very wrong? appreciate any help o/

[dreamy blade]

have you been buying dock space with the gems you get from clearing chapters?

[quick mason]

Join guild and spent gems on dock space

[dreamy blade]

also are you still using 1 fleet or do you have 2?

around 9/10 is when it can be rough to keep using 1 fleet only

[solid marten]

I have two fleets, i learned about mob and boss fleet in videos but my boss fleet gets demolished

the mob fleet actually can clear stuff pretty ok

[quick mason]

FLEET REVEAL BUDDY

[solid marten]

i have 240 dock space as well, for thje other question

[stark quiver]

would you mind sending the fleets?

[plain saffron]

Need a bb

[quick mason]

CL tanking sheesh

[plain saffron]

Swap helena and SF place

[stark quiver]

if youre gonna comment, make it a actual advice

[dreamy blade]

240 should be plenty for where youre at, when you say retire blue units do you mean dupes?

[quick mason]

Alright

[solid marten]

yea, i have like 6 flechter

[quick mason]

Bro at least get unicorn

[hollow gust]

Yeah that's a you problem

[dreamy blade]

yeah jsut retire the copies

[solid marten]

She is on the mob fleet

[stark quiver]

did you like just test that now

[plain saffron]

What chapter you're on

[solid marten]

10

[quick mason]

10

[solid marten]

i feel like my planes do insane damage but my frontline dies crazy fast

[hollow gust]

I did a quick run just to make sue im not high

[dreamy blade]

youre lacking a proper tank so thats to be expected

[quick mason]

Use two BB at least or only two Carriers

[plain saffron]

It's blue so not that hard to get, just retire copies unless you want to MLB them in near tine

SF is a tank

Just in wrong position

[solid marten]

Also this is mob fleet (i have no bbs 🫣) and i want to replace this meta ship cuz i think she is kinda bad

[stark quiver]

it was sash vs fdg?

[plain saffron]

You need to raise some BB, especially in chapter 10/11

[quick mason]

Why are you only using Carriers

[solid marten]

i have Colorado and Pensylvannia

[dreamy blade]

suicide boats are a huge problem in 10/11, you cant get away with no BBs

[quick mason]

Bro is swarming

[plain saffron]

Triple CV won't work outside chapter 12/13

Can you buy hood by any chances

[quick mason]

Also nelson

[solid marten]

nelson i have like 4 of

[stark quiver]

no

[quick mason]

Nelson is free retrofit her at least

[plain saffron]

What's in medal shop

[stark quiver]

cl ss

[quick mason]

Use and retrofit

[plain saffron]

Nelson will do i guess

[quick mason]

She have 4 though

[plain saffron]

But need another one still

[stark quiver]

no server has bb this month 😭

[solid marten]

is colorado good?

[quick mason]

Dock reveal bro

[dreamy blade]

basically a worse nelson

[plain saffron]

So? Isn't that right, have nelson, use nelson?

[stark quiver]

colodrado retro is honestly fine

[frank pulsar]

average, not worth the resources

[quick mason]

Well we haven't see the dock yet

Let's see what he have

[plain saffron]

Didn't he told us

[frank pulsar]

they have penny, so just use her and nelson

[solid marten]

i have more

i have some yellow let me show you guys

[plain saffron]

Should've told that earlier

Filter by BB

[quick mason]

[ember totem]

omg nagami big fan

[dreamy blade]

may as well use colorado since shes leveled and mlb then

would still raise nelson and retrofit her

[quick mason]

Yeahhhh I think use nelson it's not too late for that

[solid marten]

kk thank you very much o7

[quick mason]

Retrofit her it's not too late

[hollow gust]

Just use penny till you can max a Nelson

[solid marten]

i didnt use battleship retrofit prints so i think i have some

[plain saffron]

Hi

Do you want my autograph

[quick mason]

Ain't warspite is free?

[plain saffron]

He needs 2 doesn't he

[zenith heron]

but really old and not worth to use as of today's standards

[quick mason]

Wait not anymore?

[plain saffron]

Because 2 fleet

[ember totem]

warspite's very expensive to get going and isn't exactly worth the resources for that in this current climate

[quick mason]

Ohh

[zenith heron]

she is literally in a sad place as of now

[quick mason]

Too old but I still use her and destroying boss

[dreamy blade]

at least she has +2 hit tech

[quick mason]

NOOOO!!!

[hollow gust]

Oh hey chien, wassup

[zenith heron]

you may find Hood with her Augment have more use than Warpsite with her Retro

[plain saffron]

Can't believe i saw chien in gph

[dreamy blade]

warspite is awful at mobbing and just doesnt have the dmg for bossing compared to modern BBs

[ember totem]

hi hi, how are you hope it's all good

[quick mason]

I'm still building her I can't just replace her like that ;-;

[ember totem]

you make it sound like i'm an urban legend

[zenith heron]

replace her then once you get someone more useful than Warspite

[whole crypt]

[quick mason]

Vanguard

[zenith heron]

use if MLB then ye

[quick mason]

I have finished her talents

[quick mason]

What's MLB

[zenith heron]

Maxed Limit Break

[ember totem]

max limit break aka full stars

[quick mason]

I can't just move on warspite carried me from 5 - 12

[stark quiver]

thats cuz newbie campaign ezpz

[quick mason]

Nahh I'll use 3 bb for boss instead

3 royal navy

[stark quiver]

no screen clear and big damage will be rough

[zenith heron]

i mean you can use her at w13 if you want, but we really do not recommend her....

if only it was like a few years ago...

[hollow gust]

If you want to troll do it in general

[quick mason]

Im not trolling

[zenith heron]

~~do you glaze her? ~~

[quick mason]

Just give me her best main gun im currently using the purple triple

[hollow gust]

Just use the purple triple

[quick mason]

What's the best shell to her I'm currently using the yellow