gameplay-help

[storm heron]

lmao

[viscid swift]

all she needs is one piece of royal navy equipment

doesn't have to be the main gun

[stark quiver]

Staag my king

[hollow gust]

ew still using staag

[quick mason]

Wait let me check if I have other RN

[stark quiver]

Ew being rich

[viscid swift]

ew being poor

[hollow gust]

Plymouth Gun/ Yellow Shell both work

[stark quiver]

[quick mason]

I have secondary gun 120

The poverty

Purple

[vale spindle]

do you have twin 152mm purple

use that instead if possible cause it's a better secondary gun

[quick mason]

152?

Ohh it's equiped

[vale spindle]

yes this is for vanguard the bb right

[quick mason]

Lv 10

[quick mason]

Yeah

[vale spindle]

twin 152mm purple cl gun is Royal navy so it works

[quick mason]

Dawg you're cooked?

[vale spindle]

That's triple

[quick mason]

Oh my bad

[vale spindle]

Can't you filter by faction in Depot

[quick mason]

I don't have one

[vale spindle]

rip

[vale spindle]

Try opening royal navy tech boxes

[quick mason]

Sheeesh lucky

[vale spindle]

yes use that

[hollow gust]

there is no way you dont have one, almost every newbie has at least one these days

[onyx chasm]

Do higher chapter hard mode stages increase the chance of getting T3 retro's?

[vale spindle]

No it just increases core data gain

[quick mason]

I'll use twin main gun for spam barrage

[soft raft]

we have no concrete idea
but higher wold = more core data per run

[onyx chasm]

Hm

[quick mason]

:0

I'd use this for my vanguard

Spam barrage

[viscid swift]

no

it would be a waste

[quick mason]

What why though?

[viscid swift]

her barrage isn't particulalry strong for one

[hollow gust]

Vanguard is prob the only UR with a mid barrage

[soft raft]

is your Vanguard even MLB

[viscid swift]

and her main gun damage is at least on par with the top end of SR BBs

[quick mason]

Doesn't here barrage stacks?

[viscid swift]

what

[soft raft]

if you mean her buff, that still makes that gun a bad idea on her

especially when she can make the most out of that buff when grouped with two other BBs synced with Helena

[quick mason]

Ohhh

What main should I use then I can't afford UR at least just yellow

[soft raft]

406 Mk 6 or Champy gun depending on enemy armor type

And for her HMS gear req you can either give her a Haze, STAAG, Neptune gun, or the yellow shell

[quick mason]

Champy?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[quick mason]

Ohhh Im using this both my nelson and NJ

What makes this Main gun popular?

[vale spindle]

Big damage number against medium and heavy armor

[quick mason]

Ohh :0

[storm heron]

20s timing, relatively easy to obtain

[quick mason]

Good thing I buyed it

And lv 12 that

I could buy onother one possible

Nvm

[frozen solstice]

Will it be worth hunting vangroud?

[jaunty vault]

not really

she's perma so you'll eventually get her from the spark or pull
cubes are better saved for UR events with rateup

[delicate pecan]

What's everyone s reccomend fleets for 13-4

[soft raft]

there's quite alot of ways to approach W13
post your dock in a thread if you want accurate help

[frozen solstice]

So collect

[eager mulch]

get her from 400 cube spark, don’t spend cubes in heavy/special looking for her

[limber pulsar]

Who should I research first? Kearsarge or Hindenburg?

[white agate]

did you already do dr7 dr5 and dr4?

[limber pulsar]

Ohh sorry mb I meant

Catch up BP

[white agate]

both since its 150 for each

[forest palm]

Kears is more useful

[forest palm]

[vale spindle]

Frostfall Rerun

Links

• Datamine: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQBj1UEdwqh-KNZoYdZ-z-qFrADHClyP4fPb4HRzTbwM1j5mQfNfe6hfp9i9RwdY99ZONY86n5AKnUd/pubhtml
• Wiki: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Frostfall

FAQ

New Ships/Gear Good?

Check datamine for more details. They are also found at https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/samvaluation#Frostfall

Different Event Format?

Check datamine for more details. You can also check the Wiki for more information.

Oil Cap?

TC3 - 25 surface / 16 subs
SP - 40 surface / 16 subs
No clearing rewards are on any of the stages.

Best Places to Farm?

Spam the highest stage you can do (TC3 > TC2 > TC1) repeatedly in coalition for more rewards). SP is only more oil efficient than TC3 if you can 1:1 everything.
TC3 and SP stages also can drop Twin 130mm B-2LM prints (need 25 prints per gun); this gun is also available in Core Data Shop.

Ideal farming thresholds are:

• 27.5k (event equipment)
• 30k (last relevant rewards)

You shouldn't farm past 30k unless you are crazy. Go back to other permanent stages.

How To Get Arctic Report?

Unlock all 16 story cutscenes, check "Intel" tab of event for more information.

Build Tickets?

You get 29 for the duration of the event. Sources include missions, login rewards, and point milestone rewards, among others. Tickets expire at the end of the event; they cannot carry over to future events.

Should I pull for these ships?

Reasons you should pull for the ships, in no particular order:

• Waifu
• Collection
• Better than majority of permanent options at their hull type (only for gold/rainbow ships).

There are 3 more UR events scheduled for 2025, plus any additional reruns, so plan accordingly.

<@&472236072743600148> pin plz thank

[tulip dawn]

damn cleo fast

[vale spindle]

damn yuni alive

[normal cedar]

so they do have tickets for non ur rerun

[vale spindle]

yes the amount is lower tho

UR events have 44 tickets not UR have 29
on CN/JP due to their maint happening midday instead of right on daily reset they get 45 and 30 respectively thats why our numbers are not round on EN

[sweet delta]

Kursk is great

[slow fox]

If it isn't Suchimisinformation

[normal cedar]

is this datamine the same as original frostfall datamine? it doesnt seem to have any information on rerun stuff like on ticket missions or milestones

[stark quiver]

it has a section for build tickets so no

[normal cedar]

i meant the spreadsheet, cant see any data there for tickets

[stark quiver]

oh yea its prob from old event then
but safe to assume tix are from the usual missions, and login

[polar lion]

What is she good for?

[sweet delta]

Tech

[polar lion]

Yea ofc she is

[honest sequoia]

is there any good meta dossier boss to test DPS?

[viscid swift]

well what damage are you looking to test

[honest sequoia]

AP

[viscid swift]

I mean, main fleet or vanguards, and against medium or heavy, etc

[honest sequoia]

main fleet against medium armor

[viscid swift]

is there anything in particular you're trying to find out or?

but anyway Hiryuu, Souryuu, Ark Royal, Scharnhorst, and Gneiseneu should suffice but the testing may not be meaningful since you'll probably be one shotting anyway

[honest sequoia]

I just wanna test my +13 gears on them

[viscid swift]

well knock yourself out then

[normal cedar]

this applies to frostfall?

[cobalt gate]

so how close is P.R. 8 coming I’m wondering if I should +13 la9

[hollow gust]

it will always be worth +13 la-9 and pr8 is mid july

[cobalt gate]

i mean I did+13 tenrai and feel like I barely used them

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

wdym you barely use them

[cobalt gate]

Well content didn’t really require +13

[viscid swift]

needs and such change over time

and depending on what the latest difficult content is

[polar lion]

I feel u. Nowadays me only slot in Tenrai if I can't use Sky instead

[hollow gust]

You use Skyraider far far less then tenrai

[cobalt gate]

i guess it’s dive bomber in general

[viscid swift]

just wait until another heavy armor meta comes

[whole crypt]

skyraider +13 was honestly a waste

[cobalt gate]

Welp I did that

[whole crypt]

it was already barely used then it kind of died with nak/fritz fighter loadouts on la-9

[cobalt gate]

But it was great for jin

[hollow gust]

Using IJN for light and medium

[polar lion]

Yes me

[hollow gust]

Skyraider on IJN died with Haku

[whole crypt]

what, Jintsuu? she's light so any fighter flex slots will be rocketcat

[cobalt gate]

well I was using sky raider for York

[polar lion]

I ended using both Tenrai and Sky coz most of the time Sky drags the cd way worst than Tenrai

[whole crypt]

I have 2 skyraiders enhanced that are just ornaments now

[cobalt gate]

Wonder if I should have tried tenrai and sky raider

but done with jin so no more dossier worries till next update in 2 month

[icy cave]

Is there like a plane tier list or sync guide, I'm trying to learn which planes to use and upgrade

[cobalt gate]

use sushi guide

[weak dust]

idk which ships to put together for 3rd opsi fleet against hard mode arbiter

[icy cave]

Can his guide be found on his YouTube?

[hollow gust]

What ships you have

[honest sequoia]

https://suchiguma.github.io/home/home-page

[icy cave]

Tysm

[weak dust]

here is my current op si teams + higher lvls of dock

[viscid swift]

Suchi has such a guide?

[stark quiver]

zStigma does not

[viscid swift]

root should ideally launch 2nd and the other 2 CVs should be ideally within 0.2 sec airstrike cooldown of the CV with the root

[sweet delta]

Suchiguma does not

[viscid swift]

wrong one

[sweet delta]

Your first two fleets could use some fixing too

[hollow gust]

So many lmb2 ships ,hf cheeky

[cobalt gate]

so how to compare +13 vs +10

[stark quiver]

of what

[viscid swift]

lars calc should have you covered

[weak dust]

its what was decided in a thread with abdou

[sweet delta]

Shinano amagi fritz
Richelieu Alsace NJ

[cobalt gate]

plane

[stark quiver]

if its sidegrades of planes, then generally the +13 is better

[slow fox]

Suchi do you need to update this to 2025

[viscid swift]

^

[sweet delta]

2025 is far from over

[cobalt gate]

i mean it says as of 2024 so that covers 2025

[sweet delta]

Unicorn could be powercrept in a month

[slow fox]

Suchiprediction!?!?

[cobalt gate]

I mean royal does get most of the healer ship

[honest sequoia]

nah unicrom stay winning

if they release a new healer better than percy n unicorn ill just give everyone free 1 year nitro

[forest palm]

Percy could get a UE that removes her handicap which would be funny

[stark quiver]

when im downloading files for azulene on phone and i swap to say discord or yt, does it keep downloading in background

[honest sequoia]

No u have to keep it open

[stark quiver]

[cobalt gate]

Oh yeah we do get retro during anni. I feel like Belfast or qe may get retro

[viscid swift]

as much as I would like one of those, who knows

[forest palm]

QE retro has been a cope since 2019

[stark quiver]

it would not save her

[forest palm]

it wouldn't

[honest sequoia]

Enty retrofit

[cobalt gate]

I mean no pure faction builds really work closest I think is Sakura?

[sweet delta]

Use 4 fleets to be safe
Shinano amagi fritz Eldridge noshiro Sirius
Richelieu Alsace NJ aegir helena ply
Enterprise kear Yorkii?? Z52 sandy someone
Any 6 high level MLB ships

[stark quiver]

fleet?
kear,yk2,enty, uss bote, uss ara, helena doesnt sound half bad

[viscid swift]

Yes but Kearsarge, Yorktown 2, Fritz, Eldridge, Aurora, Plymouth sounds even better

[cobalt gate]

Uss bote uss ara?

[dreamy blade]

boat, air raid assistance

[cobalt gate]

I mean with kearsarage doesn’t air raid not stack

[viscid swift]

It doesn't

[stark quiver]

i once again forgot kear has ara

[polar lion]

[stark quiver]

time

[cobalt gate]

would sakura be Akagi hyru shin, kaze amagi and who else

[dreamy blade]

azuma

[viscid swift]

Might wanna rethink that one

[stark quiver]

[cobalt gate]

Shoot mis typed azuma

[stark quiver]

unzen ofc btw

[dreamy blade]

i hope that was a typo and you meant amagi and haku not hiryu akagi

[cobalt gate]

Yep mistype can’t spell

[low dove]

I've been gone for awhile, did I miss anything crucial? (luckily, I got the URs that have been released in 2025)

[cobalt gate]

When did you leave

[viscid swift]

Not really

[stark quiver]

2 cheekys now

[dreamy blade]

the only thing you can potentially miss is collabs, so the TLR collab if youre into that

[stark quiver]

tlr collab had some good auxes, also hvar rerun if you didnt get them first time

[viscid swift]

A minor event and Implacable rerun

[hollow gust]

lmao you watch thomas the train too

[low dove]

somewhere in november, it's been rough

[viscid swift]

Uhm actually it's Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends

[cobalt gate]

Wait so missed to love and iron blood event?

[dreamy blade]

yes but non-collab events will rerun eventually

[low dove]

the URs events are fine, I am skeptic with the smaller ones that may have good gears in them

[viscid swift]

Nope

Just fleet tech

[dreamy blade]

if you are a pvp guy there was a good aux from the TLR collab but other than that youre fine

[cobalt gate]

Yeah if you didn’t t miss those that’s fine

[stark quiver]

cresent is a good pve aux

[dreamy blade]

true but nothing game changing

[cobalt gate]

Do small events even give good gear now

[low dove]

I did miss the 2nd 460mm however but the weapon's slow 💔

[viscid swift]

Yeah but nothing game changing

[cobalt gate]

Yeah don’t think air raider madder too much

[low dove]

I am a little confused with the new recent fleet formations, is there a guide/spreadsheet that sums up the fleets with the recent URs?

[cobalt gate]

How did auto correct from matter to madder anyway

Depends on what content

[low dove]

I haven't built the new URs, been gone for awhile

[dreamy blade]

5 months isnt really a long time in the grand scheme of things, z52 is a new jack-of-all-trades vanguard and fritz is a strong anti light/medium carrier

[cobalt gate]

Ralph basically can be plugged as healer ship Fritz can be run in us or Soviet cv fleets

[low dove]

that's a summary

[dreamy blade]

there isnt a single fleet they go in, those are the roles they fulfill for fleets

[cobalt gate]

Pretty much feel like they are done with faction ships really

And to be honest fritz is good mainly because la9 although same reason why enty still high up because we been getting good planes

[low dove]

Parallel Superimposition war archive when

[cobalt gate]

In a year

Rn really does need more ultra. Feels like have 2 that are just not rainbow tier

[olive geyser]

what gun should i equip on z52? non rainbow because i am broke on mats

[dreamy blade]

blue 76mm

[hollow gust]

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_76mm_(3"/50_caliber_gun)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

[polar lion]

Or single 113

[hollow gust]

Don't know how strong implacable and vanguard are moment . Classic support bad

[cobalt gate]

Pricy route

[hollow gust]

Stick with the 76, it will usually be her best gun

[cobalt gate]

I mean drake and warspite

[hollow gust]

Neither of them are URs

[olive geyser]

[weak dust]

ok it worked halfway, i cleared to 19 hp bars rather than 24 hp bars
pretty sure im just weak af

[rustic osprey]

Has anyone else encountered this bug?

My top ships keeps disappearing from the dock, like AMAGI and shinano erc

I can only find them if I restart the game

[cobalt rapids]

remove all filters

[whole crypt]

filters aside game gets buggy occasionally just restart the game

small indie dev pls understand

[pine crystal]

Buying more dockspace also makes them show up again iirc

[weak dust]

Does AL maint ever end early? im usually not up before the said time

[whole crypt]

occasionally but not by much

[weak dust]

so like half hr?

[tame jungle]

half hour is a lot

[weak dust]

so 10 mins

[tame jungle]

just wait it out

[whole crypt]

a couple minutes maybe there's no regularity

the most regular is really just on time

[weak dust]

lol just wondering, bc it happens sometimes in other games i play

[whole crypt]

it does, again there's just no regularity to it

[tame jungle]

AL teaches you patience in more ways than one

(hopefully)

[whole crypt]

normally maintenance schedules end reasonably ahead of uptime for testing and buffer

[weak dust]

yea im learning that the hard way rn bc im poor af in too many ways to name

[whole crypt]

whether the game actually reopens early is at the dev's whims

[normal cedar]

how many quickfinishers should I keep at minimum? i havent spent any since I started so have more than 200 rn

[rustic osprey]

Iam broke

[whole crypt]

just don't use them when you don't need to, you should be at a net positive anyway outside of building massively for events

[honest sequoia]

As much as u can

[normal cedar]

alright, thanks!

[dreamy blade]

i dont think i've ever not used a quick finisher for builds and i have like 500 or something

[zealous fractal]

[left cedar]

pretty sure i got 2x quickers than cubes ... so i'm about 4800 quickers and 2340 cubes

and i used quickers since first day

[zenith heron]

Usually just using finishers is just when you wanna rush on UR Event in the last day or so....

Or you are just plain Impatient

[dreamy blade]

no i just have never run low on them so i just use them every time

[zenith heron]

Sounds like a different issue, cuz never had used mine at all unless I rush

[dreamy blade]

they exist to be used

i dont even know where you would get the coins to rush 2k quick finishers at once

[zenith heron]

They almost have the same function as HELP at this point so...

[dreamy blade]

sure but finishers are acquired daily just from comms, idk where HELPs come from besides the opsi shop

[whole crypt]

I just spend them when cruise needs me to or on new banners because I usually pull around 40 to 100 on day 1

[plain saffron]

When is stream

[normal cedar]

monday

the mafia kajita jp one I assume you are talking about

[plain saffron]

Yes

[normal cedar]

why is it showing you playing azur lane for 9 hours isnt it maint now

[zenith heron]

Probably diff server or just at Main Screen Login

[weak dust]

damn bro camping the opening of the floodgates

[honest sequoia]

cuz server is open

[whole crypt]

that's surprisingly few

[left cedar]

i dont think só ... but i dont buy nothing, like, never ...

its 100% pure grind and tryhard

[rapid grail]

how long is the maint? the usual 6 hours?

[whole crypt]

JP finished a bit over an hour early, good luck with EN

[rapid grail]

yea what's for en

Oh, 6+2 hours. Honestly thought it'd be 8h

[eternal basalt]

Usually reruns just take 6h

[wind hazel]

smaller events are 6h isnt it. big event reruns are still 8hr. like implacable one took 8hrs too...

[eternal basalt]

Smaller events tend to last 8h too. Dunno what was up with Implacc.

[whole crypt]

remind me was frostfall worth grinding on hard

I can't remember if I low costed it somehow

[forest palm]

this event feels like I just wanna skip it in everyway possible

[whole crypt]

it is but you know, plates

[honest stirrup]

Isn't that just the hospital event all over again?

[whole crypt]

this is the worst possible version of the format

[forest palm]

that's a rough sell for plates...

[forest palm]

it's worse imo

suffice to say all my bitching, and unwillingness aside you can just bang this out in a day or two

[whole crypt]

the whole coalition mode thing made it very janky

[forest palm]

60k for 20 plates

[jaunty vault]

general plates?

[whole crypt]

guess I'll take a break to regen oil with lowcost norm or something

[wind hazel]

it's better in term of rewards, but worse because of format

[whole crypt]

looks like aux plates yeh, still need those regardless

[jaunty vault]

me skip

i have enough for two UR gears
and that's after two afct and a bunch of shells and catas

🙏 🙏

[left cedar]

20 plates still 20 plates
so i'm grinding

[wind hazel]

holy cogs

[whole crypt]

yes it did that

[wind hazel]

enough for like, 1/5 of one ship

[whole crypt]

and you could do all of it in one go using BBVs and cargo ships

[forest palm]

man fuck this event I swear

[left cedar]

just have them all 120+

[whole crypt]

oh right we actually have more options now

frigates also aren't part of the list

[rapid grail]

wait, FMP wasn't from this event???

[boreal temple]

this is vanny's 1st rerun right? or am I tweaking

[forest palm]

it's not a rerun she's perm

[boreal temple]

damn so I was tweaking

[south sequoia]

Where does her admiral table go

Or are we only limited to 2

[late flame]

under the ocean, under the sea

[south sequoia]

Does it go to core shop?

[warped acorn]

shes good (long term)?

[worldly pewter]

most likely

[south sequoia]

Decent but not a ship you will drag till end game

[south sequoia]

I hope its monthly and not limited lol

[warped acorn]

so late game u rarely use light cruiser i wonder?

[south sequoia]

Its not about her hull, its about her as a ship

There are plenty of light cruisers you'll use in the end

[warped acorn]

oh

[worldly pewter]

it is an insanely giga cracked piece of gear so most likely it won't be monthly

[south sequoia]

San diego, shimanto, helena, sirius, plymouth

[jaunty vault]

speculation my beloved

[south sequoia]

Unfortunately true

[forest palm]

AFCT is currently in the void

[warped acorn]

well should i build the light cruiser or the heavy ones now

[south sequoia]

Ah right, same way shimakaze torps are still in purgatory as well

[tranquil dagger]

Time to splash all my cubes everywhere

[forest palm]

let's hope for not another ZFlag

[south sequoia]

In the permanent banners? None

Just wait for event banners

[warped acorn]

hmm alr thanks man i should look around more

[forest palm]

best speculation for the AFCT is that it might get chucked into core with an end of month update

[hollow gust]

I'll put money on it being slapped into gear lab in a few months

[south sequoia]

cough gear lab doesn't have an aux section

[plain saffron]

Yet

[blissful hamlet]

Anything new on this maint?

[jaunty vault]

check patch notes

[blissful hamlet]

[jaunty vault]

me when I'm told to read

[blissful hamlet]

Gph when someone ask a genuine question

[jaunty vault]

serenity when he gets a genuine answer

[plain saffron]

Nothing new

Other than some skin optimized for new ui

[blissful hamlet]

Thank you Antimalware Service Executable

See everyone, it's not that hard to be kind and helpful

[jaunty vault]

no thanks to me?

[plain saffron]

No

[jaunty vault]

[plain saffron]

[blissful hamlet]

If a beggar ask for money and you told them to get a job, would the beggar be thanking you?

[forest palm]

It's also just as easy to go to #game-news

[jaunty vault]

I'm making the job available for the beggar but the beggar wants to be mouth fed

[forest palm]

The worst kind of bum

[wind hazel]

🍞 🫲🏼 😃 🫱🏼 💵

[blissful hamlet]

And the beggar would be left in hunger and starving

[forest palm]

That's their own fault

[rapid grail]

Average Serenity experience

[forest palm]

If presented with an opportunity and they do not take it that is on them

We call that Salty Belfast around here

[blissful hamlet]

I miss salty belfast

[forest palm]

[rapid grail]

#al-general is that way, sir

Or would you like to have the same privilege as him, perhaps?

[whole crypt]

was just reminded how annoying this EX is

did it have an oil cost or am I just being stupid trying to cut costs

[forest palm]

EX did not

well the garbage event is live

[sinful escarp]

well atleast we get free medals, using the build tickets

[forest palm]

need those like a hole in the head

[whole crypt]

oh no costs?

good let me just pack it on then solo vanguards just keep dying in 3rd fight onwards

[forest palm]

pretty much a one time deal

[vapid igloo]

any of the banners worth pulling on?

[whole crypt]

pull rerun daily with tickets

[glossy granite]

Hows the archive event for Vanguard? Or is it just like any other which isnt worth to farm unless you need tech points lol

[hollow gust]

Wait wtf I have to redo the event

[vapid igloo]

i got voroshilov and kursk tho

[whole crypt]

yeh but ticket builds are free

so just do your dailies with the event pull using tickets and be done with it
never bother pulling hard on perm pools

[vapid igloo]

ok

assuming the event is pretty good to get through?

[whole crypt]

the event is shit

[vapid igloo]

ive been focusing on trying to get to level 80 for w12

well shit for older players or shit for newer players

[whole crypt]

everyone

[glossy granite]

Horosho horosho

For me its good simply cuz its Northern parliament lol

[whole crypt]

the format is just bad
farm what milestones you need I guess

[lethal bolt]

wanna ask, is it still fine if i farm event not in coalition if dont have enough built ships?

[glossy granite]

Tho with the tickets it will def help a bit with cube saving

Sadly i only have like 190+

[vapid igloo]

triple digits wow

[whole crypt]

you can farm it without coalition, coalition is more points/run but if you can't manage it then you have to run solo

some of the event missions need you to clear hard in coalition mode though so you'll be stuck out of those

[rapid niche]

Does the UR exchange reset back to 0/400 when I choose? I just hit the threshold to select my UR

[vapid igloo]

id assume so

[forest palm]

it does

[polar lion]

U guys 1:1 or 3:3?

[rapid niche]

Ok cause I wanna pick between Shinano and Vanguard. I just don't have 3 built Sakura ships to take advantage of her faction buff but I have enough built BBs for Vanguard

[vapid igloo]

whazzat

[forest palm]

fleet size

[rapid niche]

I only do 1:1 on pre oil cap stuff typically

[forest palm]

Shinano counts for herself so you only need something like Amagi/Haku + Kazagumo, and as to which you pick really does depend on what you have

[glossy granite]

Is this format just like the Nurse one? where you do the 3 runs

[rapid niche]

I have none of them So I think Vanguard may be the better choice rn sinc she's immediately useful

[forest palm]

no, it's a bit different, and kind of shitty-er

[eternal basalt]

You do the 3 runs... with 3 different teams. You can do solo, but cooperation preferred

[worldly pewter]

depends if u are rich on bulins or not too since u can't immediately make use of the ships without them

[rapid niche]

True. I have two UR bulins so she'd be LB2 at least

I don't have enough to MLB

[worldly pewter]

save for the cn anni then and pick shinano while working on hakuryuu

[polar lion]

So she will not be useful then

[rapid niche]

Thanks I honestly forget to take into account MLB for who to pick

[glossy granite]

I would save until the CN anniversary but yea as that guy said

Which is around End may or so

[worldly pewter]

yeah keep picking shinano with pities because there is bz after the cn anni so bulins might be a scarcity for a long while because of priorities

[rapid niche]

Gotcha, thank you for the help

[glossy granite]

Yea cuz we getting big UR events by then

No way you need to 3 fleet on the hard mode........

I am cooked 😭

[normal cedar]

any way to quickly obtain t3 general part? apart from guild and daily raid
I wanted it to finish a retrofit before starting event farming

[vapid igloo]

hard mode, research and coping above all else

[normal cedar]

thanks
hope Ill get it soon

[vapid igloo]

or were those the purple stuff

[arctic sail]

What should i buy from here ?

[normal cedar]

t3 is purple indeed

[vapid igloo]

id assume just farming worlds lol

[wind hazel]

the ships with good tech when you are starting to level ships for their lv120 techs. otherwise none

[blissful hamlet]

None

[sinful escarp]

probably hiyou and junyou for their 120 tech

[glossy granite]

How do i setup for TC3 😅

Since my account is borderline deletion i cant 3 fleet fully

[forest palm]

you don't need multiple fleets, switch it to solo

[glossy granite]

Oh i really am r

[forest palm]

granted you get less points, but you aren't required to do Coalition mode

[whole crypt]

you do need coalition mode for the missions

but if just for grinding points you can do solo if you can't make enough working fleets

[worldly pewter]

the first 4 ships

[whole crypt]

just don't buy anything here for now

[arctic sail]

OK

[worldly pewter]

are there better ships that will get added in the future ?

[arctic sail]

I want helena meta 🙂

[tame jungle]

moreso that he can't mlb shit with the amount of currency he has

helena meta is not acquired through that shop anyway

[worldly pewter]

u don't need to mlb them that is the good thing about them

[whole crypt]

Helena META is not in shop she's in dossier, you need to start clearing OS first

[arctic sail]

Yeah I had 1000pt for her

Its hard to MLB her

[vocal sandal]

can i not do event sp or ex without a second fleet?

[whole crypt]

it doesn't matter whether better METAs get added to the shop, they're just low priority to raise
not needing to MLB them for tech might be good but raising them as 0LB is a mess

[whole crypt]

those can only be done in coalition

[vocal sandal]

i dont have a second fleet, do i just farm hard?

[whole crypt]

yeh

[vocal sandal]

is the exclusive weapon worth it tho?

[whole crypt]

that's just tashkent gun it's in core shop

I wouldn't bother farming too hard this event unless you can't run ch9+ in campaign

[forest palm]

the 240 is exclusive, but eh...

[arctic sail]

I think I need 3 months to MLB helena meta

[vocal sandal]

so i can skip this event? no oil cap either, and im at stage 10

[whole crypt]

which was that, kursk gun?

oh right that exists... so grind to 30k I guess

[vocal sandal]

hmm ok

is it worth it tho, like is there anywhere id use that gun?

[wind hazel]

no but it's unique

[whole crypt]

it's just a half decent CA gun

[wind hazel]

maybe one day it will be good

[whole crypt]

but there's no other source of it

[wind hazel]

omg you need to click to advance to next battle

[whole crypt]

before you unlock repeats yes

[eternal basalt]

Weren't we supposed to keep progress? But I can only pick easy?

[whole crypt]

being reminded of everything single thing I hated about this event and format

[wind hazel]

apparently it reset

[whole crypt]

yes it didn't keep progress

[polar lion]

Oof some of my grills sank and also battle that didn't get S. This event is too difficult

[wind hazel]

just dump a UR BB+vanguard and close your eyes

[hollow gust]

They made the maps a bit easier then normal , should be fine

[fast frigate]

is any of the new ship good? the event ones

[polar lion]

But muh xp

[hollow gust]

Kursk is good tech, voroshilov has her uses late game

[jaunty glade]

https://i.imgur.com/Xhx0uyx.png what does this mean

ohhhh there is two tabs for fleetings...

[jaunty vault]

one ship each in main and Vanguard

[carmine heath]

Does sandy want a sexy bofor or just a staag

[honest stirrup]

sex bofor

[tardy agate]

Kursk is a baddie

[honest stirrup]

STAAG is useless for CL and DD
It's pretty bad as an AA

[tardy agate]

So is her crazy skin

[tame jungle]

waifu or skins is not something we really concern ourselves with in this channel

[tardy agate]

Sure sure

[minor kraken]

Should i waste my cubes on this event?

[tame jungle]

no

[undone plover]

Staag is mainly used as an ACC stat stick for backline (and maybe unzen in meta fights that dont require AA)
For frontline u usually use
Twin113
Italian twin 90
And maybe 1 sextuple bofor
Or UR AA (altho the french UR AA is probably not worth crafting anymore)

[tame jungle]

just ride out the tickets then you can consider doing so

[hollow gust]

Staag is useful for torp base ships

[normal cedar]

Is Juneau's unretrofitted skill or retrofitted skill (shown in image) used in normal battles/ pvp? I just found out about it and wanted to know potential places to maybe use it.

[jaunty vault]

sex

juneau was used in pvp

[honest stirrup]

you're saying staag is a viable option for Unzen and Shimakaze?

[jaunty vault]

idk if she's still used or not

[versed elk]

she’s still decent

[jaunty vault]

omg brah in gph

[glossy granite]

When was eldridges retrofit item available?

[versed elk]

rare sighting.

i came here to check how frostfall worked again 💀

[glossy granite]

Its too late to get it?

[hollow gust]

Ofc non poor people use the rainbow version of staag these days

[jaunty vault]

too early to get it

[tame jungle]

juneau is an ok cope option for pvp frontline if you don't have eldridge retro but that's about it

[versed elk]

nah even with eldridge she’s ok

[wary skiff]

flooding doesnt slow right?

[versed elk]

u can go juneau l2 eldridge for slow games/backline focus comp

[whole crypt]

unless you're coping you don't run slow comps on offense but #pvp

[versed elk]

slow comp have close to 100% winrates vs meta which is valuable if u want consistency

[lethal harbor]

What do you recommend crafting?

[tight yarrow]

what is the stage to farm for this event?

[hollow gust]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[hollow gust]

Hard is fine

[eternal basalt]

NEVER EVER craft 410mm type 3

[lethal harbor]

of course, thanks for giving advice on what not to craft, what does it craft?

[wind hazel]

twin 128 is cheap and good dd gun if you need them. single 113 very expensive endgame craft, the rest are shit

[paper timber]

Does the current event increase affinity for ship that participate in the sortie?

[lethal harbor]

which one would you choose between the two?

[tight yarrow]

i have to do the coalition right?

[wind hazel]

you only ever need single 113 for like z52 and kazagumo, and 76mm is more or less the same thing if you aren't filthy rich to craft them yet

[eternal basalt]

Don't HAVVE to, but it's the best

[whole crypt]

yes

[whole crypt]

if you have to choose then the answer is craft neither

[wind hazel]

i wouldnt say craft neither is the correct choice here....

[lethal harbor]

I'm homeless. I barely got the plans for the guns.

[eternal basalt]

Then save up for better

[lethal harbor]

and if I play from the nat fleet of the Northern Parliament and Iris orthodoxy/domimion vichy?

[wind hazel]

huh

[lethal harbor]

For what?

[sonic copper]

HECK YEAAAHH

[eternal basalt]

#gameplay-help message

[sonic copper]

NORTHERN PARLIAMENT

[lethal harbor]

and do you think I'm a falcon to be able to distinguish these small pixels?

[lethal harbor]

I use France more often but yes

[eternal basalt]

Open in browser

[lethal harbor]

What is the link?

[vital quest]

what's the best aux gears for shimakaze?

[lethal harbor]

put Magador instead

[eternal basalt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[normal cedar]

does coalition battle consume more oil than solo?

[wind hazel]

depends on fight, most of the time toolkit+hp aux, sometimes toolkit/hp+trp aux

[sullen birch]

I just got her

And what is the AP thing?

[vital quest]

don't have magador, only restarted playing the game 2 weeks ago

[lethal harbor]

is this the language of the table of charms?

[wind hazel]

open in browser

[vital quest]

someone typed that in minecraft enchantment table 😂

[lethal harbor]

then try to get le malin

[viscid swift]

3rd icon from the left

[lethal harbor]

give me link

[eternal basalt]

No, depends on which fleet you use, and just no on oilcapped nodes

[wind hazel]

it's the same pic...

[vital quest]

le malin better than shima?

also this isn't for main fleet (as in the fleet i use most often) its for reserve fleet.

[lethal harbor]

from now on you will become a fan of france, at first it will be unnoticeable but soon you will not notice how you will learn french and not hate the british

[lethal harbor]

in principle I advise you to take heavy cruisers. destroyers are the bottom

[normal cedar]

Is oil exp ratio worse for SP than 9-1?

[lethal harbor]

I'm sitting on my phone lol

[vital quest]

yes, shima is suplement to unzen and roon

[lethal harbor]

With light mod

[eternal basalt]

I think so yeah, xp is pretty bad. You just need 30k though

[normal cedar]

I see, in that case I'll only farm the bare minimum required
Thanks!

[lethal harbor]

I would put Chapaev as an addition, but let's say put tech boxes

[eternal basalt]

Remember also the daily objectives, don't need to farm all the way to 30k

[lethal harbor]

Need

[sullen birch]

Nah
I'm good

@wind hazel one more and I get the Torp bomber

[worldly pewter]

it was around the jp anni
i heard these type of events get a rerun first before the items get added to the proto shop and i have no idea how long does it take for both

[sullen birch]

And I'm still trying to get vanguard

[eternal basalt]

EN anni

[viscid swift]

uhh what

don't over generalize capabilites and performance ny hull type

[eternal basalt]

And we don't know, some get put in shop right away, others rerun... no clear design

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[lethal harbor]

Is this fleet good?

[viscid swift]

for what

[stark quiver]

for anything no

[viscid swift]

Tap on the 3 dots and you should see that

[lethal harbor]

for the plot + events

[lethal harbor]

and how do you understand what is good?

[viscid swift]

overkill for events and pretty poor for later campaign stages

[lethal harbor]

Why?

[lethal harbor]

Why

[viscid swift]

among other things
you're lacking AA for W13 and W15
Perseus does not belong in a boss fleet and that's a pretty poor mob fleet
you're also lacking wave clearing abilites for W14

also obligatory faction fleet bad

[sweet delta]

I'm sure the 4 star flandre will carry

[viscid swift]

only just noticed that as well
4 star flandre is garbage

[sweet delta]

Trolling isn't allowed here

[viscid swift]

cross refference it with a gear guide
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[worldly pewter]

u can keep alsace mogadoro and brest in there and swap the other 3 for better options

hopefully close to max dev brest

[lethal harbor]

I have also that fleet

[wind hazel]

equally garbage

[lethal harbor]

the second main

[worldly pewter]

yeah this fleet isn't functional

[lethal harbor]

than show me good northen parliament fleet

[wind hazel]

no

[lethal harbor]

or france

[honest sequoia]

dont bother using a CV without MLB

[worldly pewter]

u need to have cat at max dev and soyuz at least

[lethal harbor]

what is MLB?

[honest sequoia]

max limit break

[worldly pewter]

max ☆

[lethal harbor]

I dont have soyuz/ and cat I get one week ago

[worldly pewter]

wait for soyuz rerun

[honest sequoia]

and yes faction fleet is NOT good
it limits ur fleet potential

[sweet delta]

🧵

[lethal harbor]

okay but anyway

what the problem with my france fleet

[sharp igloo]

I just got Ulrich. Which skills in order should I prioritize upgrading?

1. The red one (Special Barrage)
2. The yellow one (+reload and -50% cool down)
3. The other red one (+crit dmg and cross-fleet IB buff)
   Thank you

[sweet delta]

Don't use Ulrich

[lethal harbor]

i dont believe

[sweet delta]

She needs 6 stars to be good, and you shouldn't use UR bulins on her

[worldly pewter]

perseus isn't from france

[honest sequoia]

Yes it does

[lethal harbor]

I dont have joffre

[sharp igloo]

Supposing I want to use her?

[lethal harbor]

if ill show my japanese fleet youll die

[sweet delta]

Level all skills then

[sharp igloo]

In order?

[sweet delta]

The order literally doesn't matter

[worldly pewter]

it is hard to make a minor faction fleet because of the very limited options
so for now don't make them until u know more about the game

[sharp igloo]

Uh, fine. Thanks

[hollow gust]

[lethal harbor]

then what fleet I need to use?

[lethal harbor]

im in process to get bayard

[lethal harbor]

how to get Richelieu?

[worldly pewter]

depends on what u want to do
but mainly u want to be at least in 12-1 and able to full clear opsi and u can exclude the hard arbiter because of the poor rewards

[lethal harbor]

im on 12-4

[worldly pewter]

12-4 will help u alot to make fleets to be able to clear opsi so that should be the next goal

[eager marsh]

EX stage doesn't give event currency (or points)?

[worldly pewter]

when there is an UR heavy banner like the upcoming bismark zwei there is a chance to get her or if u are that willing to sacrifice a wishing well for her u can in the cn anni

[honest sequoia]

well it gives u 500 cog chip if u clear it

[normal cedar]

i assume it means none of the three fleets should have that type of ship? or just one of three fleet without say dd is fine?

[lethal harbor]

I spent about 100 cubic meters for the sake of Soviet Belarus. I'd rather wait

[stark quiver]

cant even use ships these days 😭

[wind hazel]

none on all

[stark quiver]

if i run a IX, does it void the reqs

[hollow gust]

Use CV DD
Then BB CA/CL

then you are done

[normal cedar]

any hope of me cheesing it with this fleet? 💔

[stark quiver]

no lol

[wind hazel]

i saw a CN vid using them lul, i assume it works

[little tree]

Cooked

[stark quiver]

we really are the spoiled generation

[little tree]

[tropic tusk]

how come i clear the event mission without using DD or DDGs yet i didnt complet the mission? is it a bug?

[normal cedar]

did you do coalition or solo

[tropic tusk]

solo

[normal cedar]

you have to do coalition on hard

[honest sequoia]

it needs to be done on coalition TC3

[tropic tusk]

oh u need the full team one

thats gonna be hard

is it possible to run 1,1 on all fleet?

[lethal harbor]

What kind of crap are you wasting your resources on...

[tropic tusk]

its free so y not

[honest sequoia]

its free and grinding along the way will give you some tashkent gun so yes

[normal cedar]

Bruh I was suggested to use cleveland and phoenix in this same channel by three different people till now for fleet 2 , idk 😭

[eager marsh]

does the event mission require no dd on all fleets or just one?

[normal cedar]

all 3 fleets

[honest sequoia]

Cuz thats the best you have

No offense but the guy that replied to ur dock gives bad advice

[normal cedar]

Oh ok, thanks

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

might be you

-# or me

[eager marsh]

need suggestion for cv+dd only run. would a pair of twos for each work?

[zealous fractal]

Is frostfall a joke? I can't do Sp, I dint have enough strong ships

I have enough for 3 but not 6

[viscid swift]

so don't use full fleets

[zealous fractal]

Wym

[viscid swift]

like run 2 main fleets and 2 vanguards for each fleet if you don't have enough ships

[vital quest]

is there a BB equivalent of the frontier medal AUX for CVs?

[zealous fractal]

What's my best bet?

[wind hazel]

can run uni+yuudachi, enty saratoga+tank+laffey, indep akaga+tank+z46. no need to just DD if you already done with the other hull mission

maybe dont even need tank if you run good gear

[viscid swift]

well you're probably not making it with those levels

[zealous fractal]

Mid asf

[viscid swift]

you're not missing much anyway

[wheat ore]

I have just fully retrofited uincorn, who should i focus next on my team?

javelin or portland?

[wind hazel]

port

[viscid swift]

just farm coalition mode on hard and dip after getting to 60k points

[tame jungle]

30k no?

[honest sequoia]

27,5k** for the gun

[tame jungle]

30k for the books, might as well

[honest sequoia]

yes

[viscid swift]

60k is the last of the gold plates

[wind hazel]

huh

[tame jungle]

what?

[honest sequoia]

isnt the last reward tech box???

[wind hazel]

yeah it's changed

[tame jungle]

almost got gaslit

[viscid swift]

sigh

[honest sequoia]

nah its different now

[forest palm]

ya...this event is shit

[wind hazel]

am i schiztoing or those are not what ingame is

[tame jungle]

yea i swear i saw 50k last tech box

[viscid swift]

I blame the wiki as per usual

[vital quest]

can i still get Admiralty Fire Control Table if i missed the event shop for it?

[viscid swift]

in due time probably

[honest sequoia]

No and just cope with FCR

[forest palm]

as of right now, no, eventually

[hollow gust]

It's been cheaper for a while, that's on you for still using wiki

[honest sequoia]

pray that it gets added to core shop

[wind hazel]

[vital quest]

low-key kill me

[normal cedar]

twin 130 is the tashkent gun right? or is it triple 240

[viscid swift]

in my defense, we've never had a Frostfall format event rerun before

[forest palm]

ya this is more of a product of it being a rerun and no data for that on the wiki

[hollow gust]

You literally don't need table , it's just a minmax thing for endgame players

[vital quest]

aight

[honest sequoia]

FCR will do just fine

[forest palm]

gotta have the shiny table

[wind hazel]

gotta flex power fleet

[tame jungle]

or just straight up black/white shell combo will be good enough for most purposes as well

[hollow gust]

Well not fcr but the gold one is fine

[forest palm]

can you add "HS" to that "FCR"

[honest sequoia]

in general yes
in terms of bossing that are above ur fleet lvl then FCR/AFCT with white shell is better

[tame jungle]

ok

[wind hazel]

FCHSR

[eager mulch]

FCHSR

[tame jungle]

honkai star rail radar

[zealous fractal]

Sp is dumb bro

Every attack is unavoidable, just auto attack atp abd nothing will change

[eager mulch]

?

[lethal harbor]

these are the ones I have. advise me a fleet

[viscid swift]

for what exactly

[eager marsh]

That was a breeze! I love you so much

[lethal harbor]

12-4 and upper

[viscid swift]

how many UR Bullins can you get?

[lethal harbor]

0

[viscid swift]

what hull types have you got in your medal shop this month?

[worldly pewter]

musasi aquila volga and whatever 3 vanguards u have should smash any mob related content i think

[lethal harbor]

What?

[worldly pewter]

are u against raising unicorn ?

[viscid swift]

well given the state of their dock they probably don't know

[lethal harbor]

Yes

[viscid swift]

why

[worldly pewter]

[viscid swift]

also

[lethal harbor]

I hate all britians beside illustrious and perseus

[hollow gust]

[lethal harbor]

I dont understand

[viscid swift]

do you know what the medal shop is

[worldly pewter]

why do u have implacable then ?

[lethal harbor]

Yes

[viscid swift]

do you know what hull types are

[lethal harbor]

Yes

[sly girder]

Any recommendations for the Ur exchange? I haven't played for a hot minute so I'm not all that caught up with the meta

I have an implacable and a MLB Shinano

[viscid swift]

Vanguard

[sly girder]

Cool thx

[lethal harbor]

No

[viscid swift]

I wasn't answering you.....

[worldly pewter]

k then u like 3 royal ships

[sly girder]

Woops, mb

[lethal harbor]

And?

[viscid swift]

no I meant the guy who responded to me after you
that response was meant for you

[worldly pewter]

implacable is one of the best cv bossing ships in the game

[viscid swift]

anyway allow me to be more direct, can you get San Diego from the medal shop this month

[lethal harbor]

Ill try

[lethal harbor]

Ok. Ill change perseus to her

[viscid swift]

it really should not be difficult to get 80 medals in a few weeks

[worldly pewter]

perseus is just a healer with double airstrikes at the start of the fight that will fall very hard at around w14 the reason why u will never see anyone recommend using her even early game

u have aquila and volga who are widely better than her

[eager marsh]

last prize is at 50K points right? I saw someone say something about 60K above and got confused

[viscid swift]

anyway
Mob: Aquila, Perseus, Volga, Adalbert, Mogador, Chapayev
Boss: Musashi, Alsace, Chkalov, Brest, Helena, San Diego

that'll get you through W13, you'll need different fleets for W14 and W15

[crimson glacier]

i mean there just isnt any reason to recommend perseus when she loses to uni in everything

[ruby grotto]

is the pin outdated? last gold equipment is at 27.5k? is that the recommended farm threshold?

[honest sequoia]

Yes very much

[ruby grotto]

thanks

[honest sequoia]

just grind to 27.5k for the gun
and skill book is up to you

[wind hazel]

@vale spindle frostall rerun need update, grind to 30k at most

[ruby grotto]

is SP actually oil efficient if it's 1:1 with something like 15+ oil per boss? or only like 4 oil

[honest sequoia]

only if you 1:1 it

[ruby grotto]

I can 1:1 with something like unicorn + agir, but that's still quite high cost not the traditional 1:1 like ranger + cassin so not sure if still worth

[honest sequoia]

no dont do ranger + cassin
just run a normal 1:1 fleet

[wind hazel]

i run these good enough

[ruby grotto]

copy that thanks

[lethal harbor]

I know I makes you mad but is this tleet good enough?

[wind hazel]

no

[lethal harbor]

Besides its nation fleet what the problem?

[wind hazel]

non mlb ships are bad. agir is fine but z52, brunhilde are dead weight. you're also using a sub meowfficer

[hollow gust]

Geaf is mid too

[honest sequoia]

with her augment is still mid

[wind hazel]

well to be fair graf is probably one of the best CV IB got

[hollow gust]

Graf got a buff and a augment , mid is mid

[wind hazel]

best out of like 3 AHAHAHAHA

[hollow gust]

You forgot strasser ,shes worse then strasser too

[lethal harbor]

yesterday i decided to see what was on the tier lists... in short, if it weren't for this, you would be seeing alvitr and prince heinrich right now

[wind hazel]

tier list assume your ships are at their best

[lethal harbor]

And peter strasser

[lethal harbor]

Bruh. than what a reason to look at them?

[wind hazel]

??

[honest sequoia]

i cant understand ur english bro

[crimson glacier]

its pretty easy to max out ships in this game compared to most gachas

since gear has set stats

[wind hazel]

max your ships, then look at the tierlist again. what's so difficult to understand

[honest sequoia]

But looking at the EN Tier list should NOT limit your fleet building

[lethal harbor]

Thats the old one

[wind hazel]

if tierlist say z52 is tier EX, doesnt mean YOUR z52 is tier EX with lv50 on her

[lethal harbor]

then what's the point of looking at the tier list?

[wind hazel]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[honest sequoia]

^^^

Dawg

[viscid swift]

so you know what their potential is if you do max them and help you decide whether you should max them or not....

it isn't rocket science

[eager marsh]

so after everything, you only get 15 of the gun design when you need 25?

[honest sequoia]

while ur grinding tc3 for points
you will eventually get some tashkent gun prints

[viscid swift]

something like that yeah

[honest sequoia]

unless ur unlucky

[viscid swift]

drop rates are shit so don't farm more than the milestone rewards

[honest sequoia]

like me who grinded york II event for HVAR and only 50 print

[viscid swift]

you'd be pretty lucky to get 10 prints by the time you're done

[honest sequoia]

sounds about right

[ruby grotto]

there are no double points daily etc. right? straight grind to 27.5k if desired? other than once a day SP that is

[viscid swift]

yep

[lethal harbor]

Well, ge the hell it, I'm a newbie, why the hell should I know what will be good in the distant future if I'm at the beginning?

[wind hazel]

you get 1850 points from daily if my maths is correct

[lethal harbor]

Thats my old soviet

[honest sequoia]

Ur not newbie if u reached w12...

[ruby grotto]

ah thx forgot about that

[lethal harbor]

From what day is this?

[honest sequoia]

???

[viscid swift]

ok...
either way I suggest reading the guidelines and criteria of the tier list next time

context matters, especially in AL

[lethal harbor]

I think mori died from a stroke of the shit I collected

[honest sequoia]

I cant undertand ur english bro
but there are very useful guides for you to read

[ember totem]

[wind hazel]

i've seen worse

[honest sequoia]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

have a good study session

[lethal harbor]

Since when have I been playing not gacha with sexy girls but a wanking game of numbers?

[wind hazel]

[honest sequoia]

huh ?? 😭

[stone sluice]

Is the gun from the event relevant?

[wind hazel]

no but it's unique

[viscid swift]

well content gets more difficult the further you want to go which requires understanding the game and its mechanics to progress

[honest sequoia]

im surprised you understand what hes saying

[viscid swift]

I have spent too long honing my incoherent bs to english translator

[lethal harbor]

yeah, fuck it! I'd rather play myself and play for fun than fuck around with numbers just so the autoplay would run a second faster

[wind hazel]

cheeky mr worldwide

[lethal harbor]

My fleet is good enough to farm experience for 11-3 on an Autobot.

[viscid swift]

it's not about saving seconds on clear time
it's about whether you can clear content or not

[ember totem]

i came to see content

[honest sequoia]

well good luck with that in w14 and 15 if u ever do play it

[eager marsh]

Why is the dude crashing out

[zenith stag]

if it's 3% damage reduction worth keeping as a base? with just the middle skill as the only damage one

[honest sequoia]

also you should be farming 12-1 for exp not world 11

[ember totem]

i hope the word autobot there isn't a macro & is just finnicky translation

[zenith stag]

if you want to have all the best options for farming different things being able to auto all the way up to 13-1 is recommended

[lethal harbor]

oh yeah what's wrong with that? as if in the very first battle the entire Japanese Empire's air force would fly out at you to destroy that unfortunate aircraft carrier

[lethal harbor]

Ok thanks

[viscid swift]

who wants to tell him

[honest sequoia]

Im done bro

[wind hazel]

it wont be a good cat, but useable if you have nothing better

[lethal harbor]

I'm talking about that shit that plays for you. Go, what do you call it?

[viscid swift]

auto battle and auto search

[wind hazel]

Decepticon

[viscid swift]

or just auto for short

[lethal harbor]

Hell my translator is crap. And they say that Google translator is good....

[viscid swift]

its not

[lethal harbor]

I see

[viscid swift]

any machine translation is gonna be questionable

[lethal harbor]

Wait.

What wrong?

[viscid swift]

does anyone have a screen shot of W15

[lethal harbor]

The problem that if I write by myself than it will look like a hollywood stereotipical russian english

[zenith stag]

seems about right

[eager marsh]

Use chat gpt, at least it gives you coherent sentences

[lethal harbor]

What can I say... developers needs to wake up from bottle

[viscid swift]

yeah you know this isn't a smiluator right

[lethal harbor]

Do u seriosly think that I will pay for ai?

[plucky ice]

Is coalition battle worth it for grinding? or is solo more efficient

[wind hazel]

😭 it's free...

[slim pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

[honest sequoia]

bro its free

[viscid swift]

chat GPT is free

[lethal harbor]

In israel not

[wind hazel]

worth for point grind

[plucky ice]

mmm okay thanks!

[lethal harbor]

This is a speedrun to get epilepsy

[wind hazel]

this is starting to age like a milk

[honest sequoia]

valid crashout

[slim pewter]

:0

[honest sequoia]

Were just trying to help him but he is somewhat refusing? 😭

[honest stirrup]

DeepL suddenly doesn't exist ok noted

[lethal harbor]

How to say that to you... the app in Israel after some number of sentences say that you must buy premium to continue

[viscid swift]

just use the web version

[lethal harbor]

Im lazy

[viscid swift]

sigh

[eager marsh]

My dude ...

[normal cedar]

should I go for mlbing tashkent next or wait for voro/kursk from tickets? finished with franklin mlb(as advised in here)
the reply is my fleet screenshot for reference
also what do I do with my mlb percy now, they told me to switch her for franklin..

[viscid swift]

cheesing what, coalition mode for hard?

[normal cedar]

nah, general fleet 2 comp

[viscid swift]

just continue to do as we've said and ignore that one guy telling you you're wasting resources

[honest sequoia]

Yes

[normal cedar]

um I get that, but mori told me that I should've raised franklin instead of percy, so I corrected my mistake by MLBing her
my query was that should I try to mlb tashkent (hopefully by 1st week may) since I think she might be able to replace phoenix or cleveland once MLB is completed

[sinful socket]

Hornet 2 good with Yorktown 2 and Unicorn in a mob fleet ?

[hollow gust]

she will probaby replace some ships

[viscid swift]

well do you actually have the resources for that

as well as crafting her augment

[wind hazel]

good for w13

[viscid swift]

actually no
1st week of may would be too long of a wait

[normal cedar]

Not now, I'll raise her levels and put new gold bulins into her if you recommend though
Augment will have to wait cuz I went broke after crafting laffey augment

[sinful socket]

all that matters for me, thanks !

[viscid swift]

ideally you should be at W12 by then if not close

[sinful socket]

now I need to up Hornet 2

[wind hazel]

well why did you craft laffey augment

[normal cedar]

cuz I heard it improves her durability and she was running on low health while being in safe position before the augument

idk if anything changed though 💀

[hollow gust]

higher level fixes that

[wind hazel]

you will be replacing laffey soon too, and that augment will go with her

[honest sequoia]

not everyone that has a unique augment will be good

[wind hazel]

it's basically not that worth to craft it

[sinful socket]

I'm using Laffey for the event rn, since I'm clearing with 3 DD's for the event quests

[worldly pewter]

come back after u get bz also since u have z52 can i ask where is rumey ?

[sinful socket]

I have z52 and no rumey personally

[honest sequoia]

it might seem crazy what im about to say

[normal cedar]

ain't no shot I got scammed twice in this channel 💔

[wind hazel]

who told you to craft the augment

[normal cedar]

Not addressed to me but I read this one day here

[wind hazel]

isnt special aug like 21k or something

[sinful socket]

it is

but it's not that much anyways

[wind hazel]

if you wanna craft, craft hood's or saratoga's

[viscid swift]

should have read suchi's augment guide

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[wind hazel]

not someone like laffey. only vanguard's special aug that is good enough to craft is sandiego's

and even that's only if you're using her

[worldly pewter]

ibuki to an extent too right ?

[wind hazel]

new player tend not to raise ibuki

[sinful socket]

I'm raising Roon tbf

[wind hazel]

it's mostly louis or roon

[hollow gust]

all 3 CAs are solid in PR1

[sinful socket]

ain't there 4 of them ?

oh no

Izumo is BB mb

[wind hazel]

also choosing starter laffey for w14 is really desperate

im not sure what context that was but it's wild fr

[viscid swift]

it kinda is

[normal cedar]

Anyways, since tashkent is out due to me being broke, in case I do obtain voro or kursk, should I spend gold bulins on them then?
I would have loved to have someone like sandy ideally in vanguard but sandy server medal shop keeps betraying me
I feel like I'm wasting farming exp on phoenix, she won't last long; even less than cleve prolly
Even her tech is low for 120 so no point taking phoenix beyond 100..

[worldly pewter]

most likely a laffey enjoyer or testing for a speedrunner or something

[wind hazel]

at least better than Halford

[hollow gust]

voro is a solid ship for early game

[rare juniper]

Returning player and I'm wondering which i should pick between vanguard, Ulrich and NJ? (Or any, but i was mainly looking at those 3).

All 3 are EX in the tier list. Are they close enough in power that there's no wrong answer or one of them is clearly better?

[wind hazel]

dont invest until end of event

might save you some gold bulin in case you get lucky with daily ticket

[normal cedar]

ofc, Ill wait

[hollow gust]

Shinano is by far the best to get

Shinano(MLB) >>>Vanguard > NJ >Kronshdat > UVH> Shimakaze

[viscid swift]

none of them, Shinano

[rare juniper]

Shinano's T0 in the tier list tho?

Is T0 CV > Tex BB?

[rapid grail]

Shinano, ni question. Your CVs are lacking and Shinano is the big answer

[hollow gust]

Doesnt matter, shinano part of the best possible fleets in the game, the other BBs are powercreeped, some more then others

[worldly pewter]

u already have 2 cracked BBs u can add fdg from pr2 and use them to boss fight without any problems

[wind hazel]

cheeky, new player zero UR first pity, Vanguard or Shinano?

[rare juniper]

Alright, thx for the help folks

[sinful socket]

Anyways, the Raffaelo/Z52 1/1 is real for the Hard coalition

[viscid swift]

just remember, you can't directly compare tiers accross hull types

[hollow gust]

Hard Coalition is pretty easy, you can run alot of bullshit and still clear

[rapid grail]

practically speaking, uvh is not that relevant nowadays and nj is on the lower end of dmg among ur bbs. vanguard at least will complement your existing ur bbs nicely

meanwhile the cv fleet csn even deal more dmg if geared correctly; shinano is part of a solution to that

[viscid swift]

uhh
good question
I think I still lean Shinano overall but I can see the argument for Vanguard

of course both get pushed back in a few months

[rapid grail]

Vanguard can be later; Shinano ASAP to cover up CV. you already have Haku about to be built and Implac already there

[zenith stag]

i'd say Shinano because it's better to get her prepped earlier for aviation hell