gameplay-help

[hoary relic]

[errant fog]

What's the best stage to farm the fastest, night time T4 or its ESP stage?

[wheat ore]

as a f2p player, how many slots in the dorm would be recommended? I currently have floor 1 and 4 slots

[soft raft]

3

[tame jungle]

3 slots, expand to 2nd floor gives you 6 total (order does not matter since 2nd floor always mirrors 1st)

[soft raft]

any further than 4 is way too expensive for a F2P

[wheat ore]

oh rip i expanded to 4 slots

[tame jungle]

that's not the end of the world

[jaunty vault]

ESP is fastest

[wheat ore]

yeah I'll just work towrads the second floor

[errant fog]

Nice. tq

[eternal basalt]

Every 2 years, so when was the last one, add 2 years

[forest palm]

this year

last one was 2023 iirc

[eternal basalt]

Do note it's NOT the most efficient

[full nacelle]

Do events Xp count for research?

[errant fog]

True, but im falling behind hard and have the oil for it. So might as well

[full nacelle]

:3
Thanks

[eternal basalt]

I mean, several people got the 50k award on day 1... you gott PLENTY of time

[woven star]

where I can find AL bosses database? nvm found

[exotic wren]

What's the name of the flag that triggers FdGs proximity barrage again?

[rapid grail]

flag
Nelson's Pennant flag or smth? Then again FdG doesn't need that to proc her barrages

[exotic wren]

I remember using it just to trigger her barrage right at the very start

Thanks thooo

[rapid grail]

welc

[dusty geyser]

hihi
i am in a 7-1, should i go 1:1 fleet or 3:3? or depends on if i am able to clear it with 1:1?

[atomic abyss]

3:3
Because you want to be levelling the entire fleet
Saving oil isn't the priority

You should only be using 1 fleet at that point anyways

[dusty geyser]

somehow my main fleet is 100 lvl all 🥹
i should go 2 good ships and 4 that are need to be levelled?

[atomic abyss]

It's not like they're 120, so you shd still be using them

In that case you can split your current fleet into 2 and rush to w9

[dusty geyser]

oke, thanks

[lyric moon]

Is it possible to get the older I assume limited meta ships like nagato?

[wind hazel]

not possible yet

[dreamy blade]

old meta showdown ships (like nagato) eventually get added to the dossier
old cruise pass metas get added to the meta shop
old event metas you have to wait for the event to rerun

[lyric moon]

Ty

[normal cedar]

is saratoga a alternative to independence? I remember seeing someone suggest an alternative here but can't remember what it was

[viscid swift]

Sure

[woven star]

Independence more about support setup while Saratoga more about damage dealer. Usually 2 dps + 1 sup or 3 dps

[normal cedar]

I'm having saratoga with perseus and maryland, so that's 2 sup + 1 dps, it is bad?

[atomic abyss]

They do slightly different things
But Saratoga is easier to get for a new player
Also unlike independence she's decent without her retro

[woven star]

Haven't Enterprise?

[atomic abyss]

Indep without her retro isn't that great really

[frank pulsar]

if you already have indep id rather use her over sara
otherwise just use sara

[normal cedar]

Enty in fleet 1 with Penn and Unicorn, this is my fleet 2 that I'm working on mlbing currently

[atomic abyss]

Then drop Perseus lol

[woven star]

Enti better for bosses usually

[atomic abyss]

Use both Saratoga and Independence

You have no business using Perseus in a boss fleet to begin with

Also saves you the gold bulins

[woven star]

Saratoga Enti and Indep more likely boss fleet. But Sara and Indep better after refit

[normal cedar]

I see, frontline scylla, phoenix and cleveland is fine then? for the same fleet

[woven star]

Get off Cleav

[frank pulsar]

cleveland and phoenix are both imho
do you have other options

[atomic abyss]

I don't think you're even at the point to build a second fleet if those are your options

Are you truly only at world 7?

[normal cedar]

I have Z23, Prinz Eugen, London, Hero, Magdeburg and York as my other options
My main fleet is level 100-110 and grind mostly on oil capped in war archives
I'm on world 7 due to lack of cmdr lvl

I have some books to build fleet 2 so... thought might as well start working on it

[atomic abyss]

Yeah you're not at the point to be building a second fleet

You can start upgrading the skill levels for Scylla, Saratoga, Independence

But you should not be using a second fleet at this point

[woven star]

This Priz Eugen feel like beginner trap. Why Heinrich have low drop...

[atomic abyss]

You simply won't have the gear or the bulins

Not to mention you won't even be able to grind the other fleet up to speed fast enough

[normal cedar]

I see, I'll try to get cmdr lvl to 65 quickly then so I can move to world 9 then work on fleet 2
thanks!

[atomic abyss]

She's not inherently bad you know

The issue is that she doesn't bring enough to the table

For the gold bulins that you'd be using on someone else

[woven star]

Imho use one fleet until 110-120... like Enti, Saratoga, Unicorn + Portland, Scylla and maybe z23 if no Helena

[atomic abyss]

If you got Heinrich early the same would apply to her

[woven star]

Heinrich more valid imho as Eugene just have hp. Her skill pool kinda bad

[forest palm]

the thing is objectively Eugen is just better

Eugen is better than a lot of available tanks, the main issue is gold bulins, and the lack of utility doesn't help

[woven star]

@normal cedar and you can put Indep in second fleet just for little buff from crossfleet

[atomic abyss]

Uhhhh

[normal cedar]

what's crossfleet?

[woven star]

Rld cv buff and some avi.. not sure

[atomic abyss]

You do know that indep has no cross fleet before retro right

[woven star]

Ah, OK, forget it

[atomic abyss]

So I would ignore that suggestion

[sinful escarp]

a crossfleet is something like a barrage or buff someone in a fleet that isnt in the battle.

[normal cedar]

I think perseus's 3rd skill is crossfleet as well then

[atomic abyss]

Anyways to answer your question, crossfleet skills are skills from a different fleet that can buff or attack with a fleet you are using

[forest palm]

most crossfleet buffs aren't that potent

[woven star]

It makes your game life little better

[atomic abyss]

It's why I said indep is just worse than Sara pre retro

[sinful escarp]

they do help, but imo its not worth it to build fleets for the sole purpose of having crossfleet for the main one you are using

[atomic abyss]

No crossfleet + carrier buff
Only 6 planes

[forest palm]

if you wanted to take advantage of cross fleet buffs you'd have some pretty janky, and awkward teams

[whole crypt]

you don't need all of the cross fleets, but you can have around 10-ish of them just from regular setups using URs and that's more than enough

[woven star]

I mean for him to use one fleet until get w9 and get some help from second crossfleet buffs. That's all

[whole crypt]

if you're getting up to ch9 you might as well just use the UR than cross fleet

[wind hazel]

do they have UR?

[woven star]

Not sure he has URs

[whole crypt]

there's like 2-3 pretty meh cross fleets if not involving URs

pretty much most of the good cross fleet stuff are on URs

[wind hazel]

this is getting really far from the point

[woven star]

Perseus and Indep is all he has with some kind crossfleet

[whole crypt]

you might as well use Perseus and Independence on the main fleet

though Perseus is meh if you have Unicorn and the cross fleet heal is basically nothing

[soft raft]

wonderful 1.5% (in OpSi) heal wahey lmfao

[whole crypt]

Independence also needs to be retrofited to get the crossfleet carrier buff

if you have a retrofitted Independence you pretty much should just use her on the active fleet

[woven star]

I'm disagree but anyway. Having Indep, Enti and Unicorn as main fleet makes more trouble on bosses with low dps instead of Saratoga vs Indep

[normal cedar]

Nope, I started 21 days ago, Only have saved 220 cubes till now

[worldly pewter]

don't get indep if u are 21 days old

[normal cedar]

yea, will continue with my main fleet for now..

I'll probably need to get to world 12 for coin farm before next UR event? Since I assume rolling 400 cubes at once will take insane coins

[woven star]

w9 at least

[sinful escarp]

dw too much. once you reach w12 coins farming will be fast compared to before

[soft raft]

yes
W12 is the spot to get to

but at the very least get to W9 before you start working on a 2nd fleet

[sinful escarp]

there were times when i only had 50k coins when UR event started, but i still managed to get enough coins to go for pity

[paper walrus]

Are these worth it

[woven star]

I think materials

N1 about buffs. You get them anyway latter

[paper walrus]

🙏

[forest palm]

[rose cosmos]

So is jaenne really that important for c15?

What is her sub?

[forest palm]

JdA is good at keeping your ships from dying, so you can imagine she's nice to have in places like 15

[rose cosmos]

Yeah but what’s her sub now if I don’t have her

[forest palm]

there is no substitute that is actually good

[honest stirrup]

W15 is just really hard so there's no such thing as "important" ships (except unicorn), only ships that makes life easier

[forest palm]

JdA is quite unique in what she does, it's that simple

[rose cosmos]

I tried subbing her with ply, she just died

[honest stirrup]

Wdym subbing, they don't have the same role

Ply is a dpm+BB support

[forest palm]

no surprise

[rose cosmos]

There is eld too

But with eld, mob team suffered

[honest stirrup]

What stage exactly?

[forest palm]

I don't think you understand, there is no sub for JdA

[rose cosmos]

Yes I get that

[forest palm]

if you wanted to remove JdA from the equation you'd need a stronger team that doesn't require her

[rose cosmos]

I’m just trying to make a team that work

[atomic abyss]

Jda's only direct replacement is Eldridge retro, who is flat out better

[viscid swift]

you could always just grind her from the War Archives

[atomic abyss]

Without jda or eld retro
This is your only solution

[rose cosmos]

Yeah but you need eld even more for mob lol

[viscid swift]

no you don't

[atomic abyss]

If people could do it with just 1 jda and no eld retro in the day

There's no reason why the opposite can't be true

Especially in those days when we didn't have Guam or Laff2 or Z52 as well

[zenith heron]

Eldridge is an Vanguard Invul buffer, JDA is a Durability buffer, same functions, different reasons

[honest stirrup]

I do it without any of them 😭
(missed eldridge's event and can't be bothered with Jda)

[rose cosmos]

Like I’m doing a shoe in team with ancho, azami and agir strapped together lol

That’s a terrible boss team

[weary gust]

Who tf is Azami

[honest stirrup]

Ancho and ägir?
Isn't there a thing where the heavier the team is the less eva you get and the more damage the entire fleet takes?

[weary gust]

No ... Eva is individual to the ship.

The only thing like that is air superiority

[tulip hollow]

do you guys have a fav stage for ship leveling? i've been at 12-1 for some time without actually checking if it's good lol

[zenith heron]

12-1 and 12-4 is your go to for ship leveling in general if your fleet can handle it, then lower ones like 11-1 and 9-1 I think are preferable to less durable/ low level fleets to farm EXP

[tulip hollow]

thnx

[zenith heron]

you can do Higher levels, but that will also increase said Oil Cost, so keep in mind why world 12 is more preferrable, also Cog chips are best to farm here

[weary gust]

W12-4 and 12-1 are accessible to already very low levels to farm. W12 is always better imo.

Cog chips go up as you go up in worlds but it's harder to drag crappy ships along to level in 14 and 15.

[tulip hollow]

i totally forgot abt cog farm thnx a lot

[normal cedar]

Independence aside, is the next best thing to get in core shop royal fortune or rainbow torpedo or something else? especially for new players
I have core data to buy after getting the 700 from event

[viscid swift]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[weary gust]

Royal Fortune is meme, not priority.

[normal cedar]

thanks!!

[normal cedar]

oh ok, she was ranked high in tier list so I asked

[hushed sorrel]

a quick question does my support fleet in the last chapter gains exp? thinking about pushing to 125 or fighting with my 120er

i am still setting up everything my fleet and would rather lv up another one of my soon to be team

[plain saffron]

nope

[hushed sorrel]

thank you. would have been a little extra benefit (3 more ships that gain exp)

[weary gust]

Royal Fortune is useless in all content where you'd want subs because Tempesta ships surface immediately and sit there firing and die. The only "use" she has is easy-autoing the sub daily because it wasn't designed with Tempesta ships in mind.

[rapid grail]

two tanky CA/CBs + an AA carry

[sweet schooner]

Dam… so what now? Touch grass?

[rapid grail]

no, they send out planes to intercept enemy planes and that's it

@weary gust was responding to the first thing i saw in chat

[rapid grail]

uh yeah
log back in some time after so that you can claim some oil and goods via commissions and other daily stuff
welcome to resource management

[sweet schooner]

Dam

[polar lion]

Get to Opsi grinding

[sweet schooner]

Ah ok

[zenith pebble]

spend time with ships

[vale gyro]

Need advice on two fleets to auto both 15-4 and 14-4

[iron sandal]

Good evening. Where is the event shop here? I already amassed 15K hospital letters.

[zenith pebble]

no shop, only milestone

[iron sandal]

Oh. I was confused for so many days. Thank you.

[zenith pebble]

after youre done with most of it, id say just skip, this was a filler event, and next one may also be

[forest palm]

ya after you hit like 28k, 32k, or 40k there's nothing left to this event

[eternal basalt]

Atleast april's likely has a shop

[vague shadow]

guy, help me set line up 2 team

[little tree]

Post Dock in a Thread

[atomic abyss]

2 questions

1. how many UR bulins can you get
2. where are the purple ships?

[sharp igloo]

My friend, who is new to the game, said there is no UR in current event SR banner? Is this true?

[atomic abyss]

yes that is true
which is why you save for UR events

and get perma URs via spark

[sharp igloo]

But the pity is counted?

[atomic abyss]

it is

[keen sable]

To permanent ur

[atomic abyss]

but a new player wont have cubes to spare so

they shd be saving

[plain saffron]

light/heavy/special goes to perma UR spark, event banner go to event spark(if there's UR)

[sharp igloo]

I’ve never noticed that. He said to me because he said he wants to challenge the 1.2%

[atomic abyss]

which is very silly

[plain saffron]

1.2% divided to like 4 or 5 UR in there rn, goodluck getting specific UR

[keen sable]

Spend on free things always makes sense...not

[atomic abyss]

silly because he wont be using the URs even if he gets them

[weary gust]

He will be using them to his own detriment

[atomic abyss]

most URs are bad for new players because they do not have the means to max limit break

[atomic abyss]

which is the issue here

[zenith pebble]

so non mlb ur is basically useless

what if i have a bunch of dr

[atomic abyss]

same applies to most DRs

[viscid swift]

same applies

[keen sable]

Only use mlb ships so you only have enough for one fleet

[little tree]

Cheeky Paid for a skin

[sharp igloo]

Actually his main purpose to be here is to prove that no gacha system could have been worst than that game started with F

[zenith pebble]

my agir isnt useless, shes lovely

[atomic abyss]

turns out this isnt a gacha game

its a resource management game disguised as a gacha game

[little tree]

^

[atomic abyss]

so the experimentation is meaningless

[zenith pebble]

with booba

[atomic abyss]

because you can get everything in this game fairly easily given enough time and proper resource management

[eternal basalt]

~~Skins ~~

[plain saffron]

that can be fixed with money

[keen sable]

#off-topic

[zenith pebble]

more mommy skin when

[little tree]

AL generael might know

[zenith pebble]

i got my answer last night and someone said americans be weird lmao

[marsh sparrow]

does plymouth have fate simulation or is just a blueprint requirement bug

[zenith pebble]

last time i checked she doesnt have fate sim

[keen sable]

Neither

[plain saffron]

no fs, it's not a bug it's a feature

you can use it to save/keep enough for FS and scrap the rest

and you can click on it to toggle save enough for FS or dev30

[eternal basalt]

As she is one if the best-CL don't expect FS soon

[marsh sparrow]

oh i see,thx alot

[forest palm]

devs love having placeholders

[zenith pebble]

how the hell do yall have hundreds of blueprints after mlb

[eternal basalt]

For FS

[forest palm]

just play the game . j p g

[keen sable]

Do research

[plain saffron]

1 season per year and you only need like 4 months(?) to max all in a season

[little tree]

Click on the G research and Pray

[keen sable]

Participate in events not 10k and dip

[plain saffron]

play more ™️

[normal cedar]

should I spend oil, coins, cubes and retroprints to unlock st louis? I've fulfilled both the vanguard exp requirements and only those conditions remain
regarding the resources I have:
I've finished laffey, portland retro and for unicorn retro last node remains, for helena, maryland, saratoga, retro is half done
Currently at 220 cubes, 30k coins
I only use single fleet so idk if st louis will be useful to me now, current fleet is helena portland laffey pennsylvania enterprise unicorn

[little tree]

Yes

[plain saffron]

can you do someone else rn

[normal cedar]

Neptune?

[keen sable]

Assuming first research ship just do it. Protocore good.

Wait you didn't even do cdc 2 yet?

[normal cedar]

whats cdc 2

[atomic abyss]

given you are at chapter 7, the process will be dreadfully inefficient

only drop the cubes and retro prints when you're done collecting the 3 million experience needed to unlock her

[little tree]

better to Finihs ST lousi and pick Someone else IMO

[keen sable]

There nothing inefficient about using portland helena laffey. Quite the opposite

[plain saffron]

yeah you'll need 1 for those season but i'm thinking werther it's worth doing rn or wait for roon

[little tree]

Fleet Tech for now and Raise Later

[normal cedar]

I am done, that's what I said...

[plain saffron]

how tf do i spell wether

[eternal basalt]

Hw many PR you have?

[plain saffron]

actually at that point, go on and build her imo

[normal cedar]

I have 0 pr ships now

[atomic abyss]

finish louis then

[keen sable]

Protocore good

[weary gust]

Whether = conditional statement
Weather = rain, snow, sunny, etc.

[eternal basalt]

Do it then for free prints per day

[plain saffron]

ouh missing the h

[normal cedar]

Ok, I'll finish her then; Thanks!!

[atomic abyss]

also, saint louis =/= st louis

2 different ships

[little tree]

[forest palm]

Sanrui

[atomic abyss]

one is a now decent french CA
the other is a below average purple US CL that has way more skins

[keen sable]

Some of the best in the game

[forest palm]

one is for the chapel the other is for the streets

[normal cedar]

Do research ships give tech points? Upon building them?

[viscid swift]

yes

[eternal basalt]

And the points for mlb at dev30

[atomic abyss]

guy, help me set line up 2 team

[upbeat wagon]

The second one is literally suisei

[atomic abyss]

suisei with a much large chest yes

i mean kawakaze and fubuki actually share the same artist iirc
but that's not really a topic for this channel

[exotic wren]

Ye but where's that thread

[atomic abyss]

what thread

[exotic wren]

Nvm found it ichika turned into s11 simp

[atomic abyss]

yes i can simp for multiple characters, sue me

[crimson glacier]

ok

[misty tree]

Whats more worthwhile? A third Tenrai, a second drake gun or a spearfish

[signal ice]

How do you get the codes for 1-4 and 2-4 in the bulin event

[exotic wren]

Enter the map/sortie

[barren canyon]

Plz tell me should I go Musashi or NJ?

[reef flume]

Musashi

[atomic abyss]

go as in raise?
musashi without question
far better

[barren canyon]

Aight thanks a lot ❤❤❤

[wind hazel]

whichever you need more, they are all kinda garbage at the moment tbh

[atomic abyss]

wyvern if you havent gotten 2-3

[misty tree]

Sitting on 5 of em

[plain saffron]

tenrai garbage 😔

[wind hazel]

3rd tenrai is garbage for now, yes

[plain saffron]

but sara already use 2 of them alone

[exotic wren]

What's spearfish again? Parallel torps with missiles?

[wind hazel]

sara bad

[misty tree]

Has event UR gear ever gone into shop/lab?

[exotic wren]

Yes

Tho it'll take time

[misty tree]

Cant hope for second skyraider within my lifetime then

[eager mulch]

it’ll become perma eventually

[fast frigate]

i have Takemaru Bishamaru Steel meowfficers which ones should i use

[stark quiver]

The good one

And for what fleet
Takemaru isn’t even worth to level
Steel is for sub fleets
Bisha is for cv fleets

[fast frigate]

this mine rn

[eager mulch]

helena tank moment

[stark quiver]

Kinda use w/e cat that’s decent then
Also swap Helena and Portland places

[fast frigate]

whats w/e

[tame jungle]

whatever

[wide obsidian]

Should I make a thread for w14 help or is there a general fleet comp for it

[wind hazel]

just use takemaru bishamaru if you don't have any better, get them to lv30

[eager mulch]

what/ever

[wind hazel]

do you have every ship in the game?
yes>i'll provide
no>make a thread

[wide obsidian]

92.8% I’ll make a thread

Ryu W14 help

[haughty quartz]

How do I get the last 2 pieces it says to play 1-4 and 2-4 but I don't see it there

[wind hazel]

go inside them

[haughty quartz]

What do you mean go inside them?

[wind hazel]

go inside 1-4 and 2-4

[stark quiver]

Enter stage
Go to puzzle
Exit stage

[eager mulch]

play the stage

[fast frigate]

anyone know when guam gonna rerun

[tame jungle]

reruns are usually a bit over 2 years after their initial run

[atomic abyss]

at the rate we are going, jan 2026 at earliest, which is just over 2 years after her event

[fast frigate]

uh ohh

[sharp carbon]

What's better for OpSi,
Amagi Shinano Hakuryuu Eldridge Kazagumo Helena
or
Amagi Shinano AvP Unzen Kazagumo Helena
?

[atomic abyss]

amagi shinano hakuryuu eldridge kaza unzen imo

helena doesnt work well with carrier based teams

they tend to fall out of sync with her debuff

ideally you'd use implacable over hakuryuu, but im guessing she's in a different team

[sharp carbon]

Sadly I missed her rerun. How should I sync those CVs though? I have only one Tenrai

[atomic abyss]

sync with the CV in flagship

so eld retro slow is timed with her airstrike

[atomic abyss]

you have 4 different converging TB for a reason

prioritise the tenrai on hakuryuu

[honest stirrup]

Over Hakuryuu? I'm finding hard to believe that team would rather keep Shinano than Haku

[tame jungle]

hakuryuu doesn't buff team damage output

[atomic abyss]

2 reasons

[sharp carbon]

Should that be Amagi because of her barrage?

[tame jungle]

at least not to the extent that shinano and amagi do

[honest stirrup]

shinano does? I haven't paid too much attention to Shinano's skills tbh

[tame jungle]

bruh

[atomic abyss]

1. As mentioned, Shinano buffs CV damage
2. Amagi buffs all sources of torpedoes from Sakura ships, including torpedo bombers - Shinano has 6, Hakuryuu has 5

in other words
shinano buffs amagi more and amagi buffs shinano more

haku is left in the dust as a result

[tame jungle]

plus a properly synced implac makes sure you hit all of your torps every time

[atomic abyss]

in september, this would have left haku to be stuck with soy and nakh

unfortunately we got rumey since then so uh lol

in a "ideal team" haku would only feature for anti heavy if the boss is slow moving enough for eld's slow to be sufficient to get most torps to hit, or if the boss stops during airstrike windows (like nagato meta)

[atomic abyss]

well, amagi's barrage isnt position dependent
shinano's is
not that shinano's deals damage...

[forest palm]

it's crazy how rapidly Haku got phased out after just getting her F5

[turbid marsh]

fastest DR in PR4 to wait for UE then.

[whole crypt]

Hakuryuu had her run, still lasted way longer than Azuma and Drake

and it's not like she's bad now she's just not the top anymore

[hybrid forge]

Guys, I need help beating Yukikaze Challenge mode Hard.

Should I open a room or something?

[sharp carbon]

So.. is this acceptable?

[forest palm]

nope

Yukikaze is light armor

[tame jungle]

that's a different guy taz

[normal cedar]

sorry if this is off topic, but what site is this that people use to show gears in this manner

[whole crypt]

EN moment

[forest palm]

[sharp carbon]

renhex.github.io

[forest palm]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[whole crypt]

isn't Yukikaze Soyuz check

[forest palm]

I don't know if Soyuz check we've clear w/o her

[hybrid forge]

I have Soyuz, she's not exactly soloing

[sacred dragon]

For stage 3 which ship would be stronger lexington or ranger?

[whole crypt]

ch3 anything's fine I'd take ranger because cheaper, more importantly what's the rest of your fleet

[molten zinc]

From what I've seen Alsace's nuke can onetap 3 summon "sometime" but Soyuz is more consistent for that

[sacred dragon]

this basicly (except top left) just the top left i am using lexington rn but i wonder if ranger would be better

[whole crypt]

if you're already using lexington just stick with her you're just waiting to replace with a better main fleet ship anyway

[normal cedar]

this means laffey should be middle or rightmost?

I assume laffey is the one who performs the attack?

[boreal wagon]

it doesnt really matter, that effect just makes whoever is first ship in the vanguard do the slash, the position of the equipping ship doesnt matter

[forest palm]

dug up my old Yucky CM build

probably could be optimized by now

[hybrid forge]

Thanks, I'll take a look. 😮

[forest palm]

I'm testing the build again with 3x MK7s, and the 138 on Chap, the goal is to break Yucky's board, and reduce her eva as much as possible that's why Soyuz and Chap are there

[hybrid forge]

I'm wondering if I should use Z52 and maybe Moga

Z52 seems like a no brainer

[forest palm]

welcome to try, I'm just recommending what worked for me a year ago

[hybrid forge]

Bleh I never leveled up my Aurora

[forest palm]

mine is at Lv 120 because I forget half the time

[forest palm]

Here's the clear time definitely feels like you can fiddle with it, but it works

this is what was used for that run

[sharp carbon]

Is it normal that plane timers in game (gear section) are different in comparison to fleet tool?

[forest palm]

in game just gives you the flat time without any modifiers. any calculator tool you may use like Lar's accounts for discrepancies

[boreal wagon]

well renhex tool does display the exact timer as in-game does (provided you set affinity, tech and level correctly), because it also ignores all other factors

[forest palm]

I never considered Ren's Fleet builder for time calc, always default to Bomb or yours

[hybrid forge]

Wait I'm forgetting something. How do you have a third Iowa gun

[forest palm]

GL

[hybrid forge]

oh, right. Lemme make one.

[sharp carbon]

Shinano lvl120 100 affinity maxed skills
Prototype Saiun Kai
SB2C Helldiver
Aichi B7A Ryusei
Steam Catapult
Steam Catapult
everything +10

In game 23.22s/wave
Renhex 23.53

[forest palm]

Lars pointed out that you set your affinity and fleet tech correctly

[boreal wagon]

you probably have some RLD from fleet tech that you need to configure

settings -> fleet tech -> cv (aircraft carrier is what its labled i think idr)

[sharp carbon]

Well, now Shinano is 23.22, but Amagi and Hakuryuu are still off

[forest palm]

did you set their affinity?

[sharp carbon]

Nvm I forgot that Haku and Amagi lvls are not maxed out yet

[thorn tartan]

are the gold collection researches worth doing? it wants 45 purple prints for 1 gold print and a mystry print.

[forest palm]

that's E series, right?

[thorn tartan]

yes. it's for a gerat 58 aa print and one mystery print

I guess I'm asking if it is a good source of ur prints

45 purple prints is a lot. although i dont think i'll ever use the one its asking for

[daring radish]

What ship should I use? Shall I include META ships?A fleet with 2 battleship at least

[thorn tartan]

use whatev you want i guess

[crisp geode]

Are the U-81 and U-47 subs added to the build pool or still limited to event rerun?

[ivory pawn]

81 has always been Special, 47 has been in Special for a long time.

You'll hopefully get spooked by them during an event that pulls from the Special pool.

[crisp geode]

Ty, got confused by wiki info

Cuz 47 says Special and Limited for chessboard rerun

[eternal basalt]

It was Lmt during chess, yes

[ivory pawn]

If wiki says it's in Light/Heavy/Special, then they're in Light/Heavy/Special.
If it says it's Limited, it was Limited at some point, but is not necessarily Limited now.
I agree, it's not well conveyed, but at least it's easy to get used to.

[crisp geode]

Ty

[eternal basalt]

Where you looking at this?

[tulip hollow]

Do you guys have any team suggestions for yukikaze hard fight?

[atomic abyss]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/april

[tulip hollow]

oh i just realized it's a whole site instead of just w15 guide thanks a lot

[frozen solstice]

What is this all about?

[sweet delta]

Secretary stories

[frozen solstice]

But what to do to get through this stage?

[eternal basalt]

Feed them 3 Tempura (you have 1 it seems)

[frozen solstice]

Oh, I'm stupid

[frozen solstice]

I didn't feed most of them

[sweet delta]

Have 3 tempura in your depot, then complete the mission

You're not literally feeding them in dorm

[eternal basalt]

~~15 from that screen ~~

[frozen solstice]

I need to figure out what it looks like

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/3/3c/Food3.png

[jaunty vault]

you can buy it in dorm for oil
sometimes also available in coins shop for coins

[eternal basalt]

You get it from the weeklies too, don't really recommend buying them

[honest stirrup]

Hello, I wanted to change my Opsi fleet and here are what I plan on using. I'm hesitating between option 1 and 2, and is there any good vanguard speed debuffer outside of Eldridge? Thanks

[viscid swift]

do you play manual?

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

[little tree]

[brisk dragon]

any team suggestion for new meta?

my current team needs 3 runs " almost 2 runs but still need 3rd one for the last x1-x5 hp"

[stark quiver]

youre correct, it has no usage

[vale spindle]

any triple UR CV or BB fleet using modern ish fleet setups can 2 shot reliably

for example im using alsace soyuz vang

its not the best fleet but it gets the 2 shot

*you dont need a tank like agir, ive been having ply tank and it works fine

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

it's hard to give anything more customised without knowing your current team comp

[last zenith]

this is gameplay help

[stark quiver]

it links u to a messasge

[last zenith]

ohhhhhhh

[atomic abyss]

yes... and?
that's a link to a message with possible teams

[last zenith]

then why does it say the channel name

[forest palm]

cause that's just the default hyper link

[atomic abyss]

channel name > message icon

[stark quiver]

are u running bf109gs and making it sync

[atomic abyss]

well, anti heavy team isnt gonna do very well
why is ply even there

[brisk dragon]

no . same team from idk how long . it usually does over 50% so i never cared

[last zenith]

oh. im not on discord much sorry

[atomic abyss]

because many of the past bosses have been heavy armour

[stark quiver]

run bf109g

[last zenith]

unzen should be on left left takes most damage and unzen is a tank

[atomic abyss]

current boss isnt

[stark quiver]

unzen isnt a tank

[brisk dragon]

ehhh where do iget this bf109g

[last zenith]

hmmph

[atomic abyss]

unzen isnt a tank, unzen is frailer than plymouth actually

[stark quiver]

pr4 or like gearlab

[brisk dragon]

it is a plane ?

[last zenith]

azur lane should change that. she powerful

[keen sable]

crafting because that's cheapest...

[atomic abyss]

it is a fighter

[last zenith]

for now i like to think of her as a tank

[atomic abyss]

well, think what you want, that just isnt the reality of the game

[last zenith]

true enough

[atomic abyss]

yes

[brisk dragon]

ooooh that one

[atomic abyss]

implacable shd take 2, shinano and haku take 1 each

all 3 carriers should also be synced with each other

[brisk dragon]

use as many as i can?

[stark quiver]

why did i get hyperstared

[atomic abyss]

yes, timings a bit off though

[stark quiver]

its meta, youll be fine

[brisk dragon]

other than bf109 anything else i should change?

[atomic abyss]

do you have skyraider?

[stark quiver]

try to find a sync with double ad1

[fluid umbra]

Can someone fix my fleet for challenged mode?

[stark quiver]

nvm i found a sync

[fluid umbra]

My fleet is a disaster rn

[brisk dragon]

how does it look like?

[stark quiver]

look at my ss

[stark quiver]

that also works

[stark quiver]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/april
try this

[atomic abyss]

do you have any LA-9s too?

[fluid umbra]

I don't have most of the ships in those builds

[stark quiver]

do you hve soyuz

[fluid umbra]

No

[brisk dragon]

i do

the ad1

[atomic abyss]

how many

[stark quiver]

read guide descriptions and try your best to follow

[brisk dragon]

2

[stark quiver]

@brisk dragon

[atomic abyss]

any of this?

if no follow that

[fluid umbra]

These are my URs, Implac isn't finished training skills

[stark quiver]

rafeallo with rumey and amagi are prob your best option

[fluid umbra]

Can try

[keen sable]

wyverns are very sus for starters

are you intentionally trying to miss?

[fluid umbra]

Yeah I know I'm just putting random crap and hoping it works

[stark quiver]

3cv does not work btw

[fluid umbra]

I had ryusei in there

[fluid umbra]

Oh noes, I always 3cv. I didn't know

My raffa isn't max leveled this is gonna hurt

[stark quiver]

welp not like you can use sashi
go level raf first

[brisk dragon]

ty

[keen sable]

if only uvh didn't have 4M exp and it went somewhere useful

[stark quiver]

on 0 cv rld btw, the more the merrier to fit in helena's scan

[fluid umbra]

I leveled her with raffa together, I just got uvh earlier than raffa

[brisk dragon]

i don't have that manjuu item tho ? and i don't have imp's 3rd plane either

[atomic abyss]

manjuu is in core shop
that TB is the vit-2 from PR7

this then

[fluid umbra]

Mmk, gonna spend some time in 12-4 for now

How's the gear going to be? Spam anti light + conver torp?

[brisk dragon]

ok i got both

[stark quiver]

if that works yes, timings are in the guide

[atomic abyss]

oh, then stick with this

[fluid umbra]

Raffa flag or rumey?

[fluid umbra]

Ah yes, timing, will read on them ty

[zenith pebble]

general too scary , this place feels better

[atomic abyss]

then we need to change the frontline

plymouth is doing nothing here - no BBs to buff

i would replace her with kazagumo
and arrange the frontline as
unzen - helena - kazagumo

[atomic abyss]

that shd push it into 2hko range

do give good AA guns to all your frontliners

[brisk dragon]

i alt tabbed i didn't see what happened. but that was so much worse

[atomic abyss]

i mean if you didnt see what happened we cant really suggest anything

could be as simple as helena not proccing

[stark quiver]

what happened bruh

[atomic abyss]

maybe your vanguard died

[stark quiver]

did you click manual after a strike or smth

[brisk dragon]

yeh . VG died

[keen sable]

far worse than helena rng

[atomic abyss]

vanguard died? maybe wrong gear?

[clear harbor]

I need a second DD for a hard mode stage in the War Archives. Any suggestions?

[brisk dragon]

i'll double check

[stark quiver]

what aux did they run

[keen sable]

inb4 double oxy

[zenith pebble]

should i develop avp or marco first in pr4

[atomic abyss]

shigure because she inflates your torp stat a lot, very useful for HM requirements, not much other use
laffey and z23 otherwise

[atomic abyss]

did you have impla?

[brisk dragon]

kazo i'm sure it's washing machine and toolbox . cuz i changed it before battle

[zenith pebble]

yep

[atomic abyss]

that's completely wrong

kaza wants 2x toolbox

[atomic abyss]

doesnt matter then
either way could work

[zenith pebble]

implac is 1 more star till mlb

[brisk dragon]

on unzen. how'd u know?

[keen sable]

kagerou or shigure are fine for stat padding.

[zenith pebble]

should i wait to use the two ur bulins for cn anni?

[brisk dragon]

don't even remember owning these items/giving them to helena

[atomic abyss]

[little tree]

[atomic abyss]

unzen and helena both get rudder toolbox

[brisk dragon]

rudder?

[little tree]

Deosnt Helena get Majuin for immortality ?

[atomic abyss]

washing machine = rudder

but yes the US manjuu works too

[brisk dragon]

what do the items up there even do ?

[late flame]

imagine reading

[little tree]

[atomic abyss]

well, nice stats is the primary use

[brisk dragon]

i see . and where do find this US manju?

[zenith pebble]

isnt it in collections?

[brisk dragon]

i only change gears like a once a year "aka when i stop 2 hitting META" so i often forget what are gears

found it

[keen sable]

use better ships...

because you just wrecked your heavy comp

[brisk dragon]

i was looking for "US" and not eargle union kek

[zenith pebble]

usaaaa

[late flame]

murica

[brisk dragon]

i did ? 😓

[zenith pebble]

caw caw

[brisk dragon]

was just trying to follow advice..

[fluid umbra]

Does this work?

[atomic abyss]

i mean this game isnt "throw the same thing at everything"

[fluid umbra]

I don't have enough reload to bring it down to 20s with skyraider

[zenith pebble]

cough

[stark quiver]

too slow, rf a lil bit faster, cvs are ok i guess

[atomic abyss]

we just gave suggestions based on what you showed us

[fluid umbra]

What timing on raffa

[atomic abyss]

if you're lazy to switch comps, switching gears can work

[fluid umbra]

That autoloader is at +0 I can make it much faster

[atomic abyss]

at that point i would rather you use a fire control radar...

[zenith pebble]

not sure if thats recommended for late game

[brisk dragon]

i see. should mentioned i hate switching gears cuz i always forget to switch back. " i ever forget what do i evern switch back to" but i didn't want to look too lazy/annoying

[atomic abyss]

i mean you'd have to choose one or the other

either switch ships or switch gear

[brisk dragon]

switching comp is alwyas easier

[zenith pebble]

using the autoloader

[atomic abyss]

loader is fine if you know what you're doing

[brisk dragon]

well as long as it works . it's wasn't totally in vain

[atomic abyss]

.........not at +0 though

[zenith pebble]

and tthat has something to do with timing?

[late flame]

RLD cope

[atomic abyss]

if you do use loader, it's +7/8/9/10
shd never be less than 6

[fluid umbra]

Sorry, it's my first time

[stark quiver]

do ygs know how boss work

[atomic abyss]

cos +0 is such a minor adjustment, you might be better off just using the fire control radar

[stark quiver]

that'll throw off timings

[fluid umbra]

I don't know how to adjust with fire control, I'm trying to do challenge

Timing is tight as heck

[atomic abyss]

yuki CM right

[fluid umbra]

Yeah

[late flame]

manual can help to some extent but man..

[brisk dragon]

aaand rip. still VG dies at x57

[stark quiver]

try +2 and +1 when raf is 125

[fluid umbra]

Can do

[atomic abyss]

how many seconds left?

[brisk dragon]

depends on rng. between 1 and 15-20

[fluid umbra]

One sec, regarding magi, homing + 2x ju or cata + 2x saiun?

[brisk dragon]

like right now . died in last 2 seconds with boss at x51 hp

[fluid umbra]

Also just remembered I didn't have a third cat

[stark quiver]

wheres hvar

[fluid umbra]

Didn't have a third

[stark quiver]

[fluid umbra]

My 2x hvar is on rumey

[atomic abyss]

la-9?

[fluid umbra]

Don't have that either

[stark quiver]

la9 is gonna be a pretty hard sync w/o enough rld

[minor scarab]

Heeeelp... how can I improve this fleet ?

[atomic abyss]

hmm
at that point i can only suggest to replace unzen or helena for a tank

[zenith pebble]

thread and post entire fleet

[atomic abyss]

...is this a mob or boss fleet

[fluid umbra]

Oh also should I swap out kazagumo/sirius for helena to hit 20s rng?

[atomic abyss]

helena would be first to go imo

because you're not hitting 20s with skyraiders

[brisk dragon]

and i was wondering why i felt like i finished swapping quick. the tenrai confused me. made me think i swapped la-9

[keen sable]

let us know but I doubt it. the guide doesn't say use middling offensive ships to kill spawns. and you must use hsfcr/afct

[stark quiver]

there are very specific timings that you can only achieve with certain rarity autoloaders with different upgrade stages

[brisk dragon]

wait no. that's not la-9. that's ad1

[fluid umbra]

Ah yeah I'm just undergeared right now I'd guess

I'll give it a shot but probably gonna be a struggle

[zenith pebble]

do you have a youtube video that explains more about timing and stuff for late game?

[atomic abyss]

nope

[fluid umbra]

Aren't AL youtubers terrible sources for guides

[late flame]

they are

[atomic abyss]

exactly

[stark quiver]

some are competent

[atomic abyss]

how much bb rld tech?

[stark quiver]

i dont
what would you like to know?

[fluid umbra]

1

[brisk dragon]

i don't have any la-9s

[minor scarab]

Eehhh ... good question...

[brisk dragon]

craftable ?

[stark quiver]

using fcrs will make raf too fast to splash the balls

[atomic abyss]

god save the queen

[zenith pebble]

it may be a long talk so should i make a thread?

[stark quiver]

sure

[keen sable]

use better ships. deal with the actual threats you face.

[atomic abyss]

anyways, the solution is
more carriers
using too many BBs

[minor scarab]

Shinano is ok ?

[atomic abyss]

keep hood and bismarck 2 in the middle

[zenith pebble]

timing

[atomic abyss]

bismarck 2 for boss, hood with unicorn on mob

shinano is fine if max stars

wait

bismarck 2 isnt max stars either

[minor scarab]

Yeees...

[atomic abyss]

[minor scarab]

[brisk dragon]

do i switch tenrais with ad1? and i don't have any la-9

[fickle parcel]

Does our wiki show the 125 fleet tech bonuses?

[atomic abyss]

there isnt any at 125

[keen sable]

no because there are none

[brisk dragon]

and what tank can replace unzen/helena?

[fickle parcel]

Why do I remember seeing bonus stats or whatever gained on the top left when I 125 a ship? False memory?

[atomic abyss]

move hood to mob with unicorn
warspite retro stays
throw on CVs for the other slots

[fickle parcel]

tyty

[atomic abyss]

you're thinking of 120 probably

[fluid umbra]

Okay this is gonna be my fleet for now, I'll try it out when raffa hits 125 tysm

[brisk dragon]

team keeps dying so someone suggested i swap either unzen or helena for a tank?

[atomic abyss]

lets try unzen first

ideally z52 ould be best

[minor scarab]

CVs...

[atomic abyss]

forget shinano

[late flame]

such lacking in stars

[atomic abyss]

saratoga for mob with unicorn
enterprise and ticonderoga for boss

or honestly just use 1 fleet

[viscid swift]

the reason for that is because Hornet launches some rocket planes which can maul your vanguard

[hazy kiln]

Bolzano or Nevada Meta worth rigging fortification, the only two I have. Or just save everything

[atomic abyss]

neither - purple meta are shit

[viscid swift]

the solution is to shoot them down before they can hit your vanguard

[fluid umbra]

Are any META ship worth caring for

[atomic abyss]

gold ones are decent

[late flame]

not really

[viscid swift]

plenty give good tech and Jintsuu is still relevant in PvP

[brisk dragon]

and the solution ?

[atomic abyss]

otherwise, almost all are just for tech

[fluid umbra]

Hmmh I used Helena META for the better part of my early and mid game but never used them since

[viscid swift]

^

[atomic abyss]

hence why i said, strong AA guns

[brisk dragon]

hmmmm.

[fluid umbra]

Oh they give tech? So I should be spending my coins to MLB them?

[viscid swift]

not that kind of tech

[fluid umbra]

Ehh

[viscid swift]

we mean the perma stat bonuses you get from 120ing a ship

[keen sable]

it is better for non-Soyuz BB fleets to have one 20s BB with AFCT

[fluid umbra]

Wait you don't get stats from mlb

[viscid swift]

nope

[fluid umbra]

Brain didn't work

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Level_120_Stat_Bonuses

[fluid umbra]

Guess I'll start leveling them up somewhat

[minor scarab]

Why Saratoga ?

[atomic abyss]

good carrier

[brisk dragon]

so who do i replace for good AA ?

[keen sable]

where's amagii anyway...

[acoustic ermine]

I have a question, does the chance of getting a better ship from building increase from how long the ship was building? Like, when I use a quick finisher to build a ship, I would get more common ship, but if I wait for some time, do I get better ships?

[atomic abyss]

no, you misunderstood
give them good AA guns

[fluid umbra]

No, they have set timers for different ship/types

[atomic abyss]

the ship is decided the moment you press build

[viscid swift]

no

[acoustic ermine]

OK, thanks

[keen sable]

the timer tells you which ship it will be actually

[viscid swift]

which ship you get is determined before the timer even starts

[weary gust]

But knowing the timer gains you nothing because you can't choose what timer you'll get.

[viscid swift]

the build time just gives you an indication of who it could be

[fluid umbra]

It gives me a dopamine hit when the timer is correct

[late flame]

tbh i almost never bother because quick finishers..
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building#List_of_Ships_by_Construction_Time

[weary gust]

The singular reason to know ship build timers is if you want to meme and hold onto an event ship in your build queue until after event is over for a while to make people in game chat get confused.

[fluid umbra]

Lol pop up 10 URs after the event

[brisk dragon]

still best aa?

[keen sable]

if you're playing no dock expansion mode then build queue is an extra 9 dock space...

[atomic abyss]

best gold one at least

[brisk dragon]

slap it on everyone?

[keen sable]

was it ever?

[late flame]

at the expense* of range

[brisk dragon]

wasn't it ?

[viscid swift]

no

[fluid umbra]

Wait so what is best gold aa

[atomic abyss]

unique, it was the best AA gun for a very long time

lol

[viscid swift]

you want as many of these as you can

[atomic abyss]

up till the 57 came about it was the best AA gun

[ivory pawn]

Still has the highest alpha damage, but it pays for it in every other stat.

[brisk dragon]

how do i get the UR one?

[stark quiver]

oh you +13d the 76 already

[viscid swift]

maybe a +13 Roomba on Z52

[viscid swift]

both are from the gear lab

[brisk dragon]

how many should i craft? 1 for each vg?

[fluid umbra]

Worth the mats?

[viscid swift]

I didn't really have anything better to spend the mats on and min maxing is all I do at this point

[weary gust]

Yes

[fluid umbra]

Mmh okay

[keen sable]

i wouldn't necessarily go spending generals for aa

[weary gust]

100% worth spending any UR AA plates you get on them. Converting selectable plates to AA plates is questionable unless you are very rich.

[brisk dragon]

ok so i craft 3 of this ? correct?

[storm heron]

you can't?

[fluid umbra]

Nah won't be using generals on them

[viscid swift]

no

[fluid umbra]

That's silly

[keen sable]

you can but why

[storm heron]

I thought general only for aux?

[stark quiver]

why cant you, but why would you

[keen sable]

i meant selectors both designs and parts

[brisk dragon]

this?

[weary gust]

The ? plates, not aux.

[viscid swift]

yeah, if you can afford it 4-6 of them

[storm heron]

oh selectors, not the generals

[stark quiver]

those who know i spent all my selectors to craft 76 🤫

[brisk dragon]

this msg confused me

cuz one of 57 and other is 76

[viscid swift]

it was, then the 76mm came out and powercrept everything

[brisk dragon]

is there a way to craft multiple times at once?

[viscid swift]

no

[brisk dragon]

when did we get those UR AAs btw?

[viscid swift]

last month

at least the 76mm, the 57mm has been there for a few years at this point

[brisk dragon]

i didn't even know UR AA existed

gave all 3 vanguard +12 of this 76mm

is there a way to do test run?

last hit and i'm not done testing

[viscid swift]

you can end the fight in your own run before they're finished by forcefully ending the game

not really with attempts on other people's bosses

[brisk dragon]

already done mine. rip

[viscid swift]

also mains fleets have priority, 15 hit is 15 hit after all

speaking of which, what are you running even

[brisk dragon]

.

[atomic abyss]

no one

i already said it earlier

[viscid swift]

do you not have other options

[brisk dragon]

how typical. i try to fix only to make it worse

[viscid swift]

your gear must be awful for such a piss poor poorformance from such ships

[atomic abyss]

uh

the implacable

[brisk dragon]

i have full collection. except 3 or 4 random girls. an some of the pr 7

[atomic abyss]

something is very wrong

[late flame]

+why is kaza offtank i/o helena

[stark quiver]

i can assure you cheeky the gear is not ass
unless they left it at <+10

[viscid swift]

even acounting for revealed CVs, you should easily be 2 shotting

[viscid swift]

with that damage output? highly doubtful

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt call this ass

[brisk dragon]

.

[viscid swift]

is that what they're actually running?

[atomic abyss]

that's what they were told to at least

[brisk dragon]

hmmm i'm confused rn

[viscid swift]

can you just screen shot your ships to show what gear they're using

[brisk dragon]

. been told no

or did i confuse something?

[atomic abyss]

tenrai would not be an upgrade

[tulip hollow]

is the 76mm worth it if i already have 4 57mm? dunno if it has a benefit over it or smth since i don't particularly need super strong AA in campaign

[viscid swift]

no

[viscid swift]

I'm saying I highly doubt you coppied that gear considering the results

[atomic abyss]

benefit: it gives HIT stat

anyways cheeky
issue seems to be frontline melts too fast for backline to DPS

[brisk dragon]

i didn't do the ad1 cuz tenrais confused me " both UR so i thought i done it already"

[atomic abyss]

[brisk dragon]

so i asked if i should swap and been told "no" so yeh i was lil lost

[atomic abyss]

not all UR gear are the same

[viscid swift]

any aircraft not listed in each category are worse than the last aircraft that are actually listed

[brisk dragon]

like i said. i got confused. i barely remember anygear so i have to do 1 gear at a time yet i still mess up

[atomic abyss]

that's why we gave pictures

[viscid swift]

do you have 3 457s?

[late flame]

btw 457 is this

[inland shoal]

Isn't the kms rocket fighter technically up there against heavy? Just ofc not worth it cuz of the cost for no real gain

[viscid swift]

yes

slightly ahead the 2 x 1000 Ibs fighters

but I've never actually used it unironically in that role I so I decided not to list it

[inland shoal]

Yeah it makes sense to not list it imo, was just curious since that was how I remembered it

[brisk dragon]

2 mistakes. the ad1s and i forgot to change that purple plane on imp

unless i'm still missing something else

[atomic abyss]

no wonder

[weary gust]

So your timings were totally off and you were using the completely wrong planes ... that's why it's not working.

That Fulmar on implac is especially bad.

[stark quiver]

What the sus

[atomic abyss]

1. fulmar has shit damage
2. implacable stops enemies from moving - when her timing is off - enemy move, all your other planes miss

so your damage plummets

[weary gust]

Although I guess the timings aren't as bad as at first glance, didn't see the manju/beacon correcting implac/haku.

[brisk dragon]

that "no" really threw me off ngl . that aside
helena using toolking and us manju
kaza using double kit
unzen using kit and wahsing maching

[atomic abyss]

1.5s faster messes up syncs

the fulmar is by far the biggest issue

[viscid swift]

but anyway, if you have the 457s knock yourself out

[weary gust]

Wait, is his Helena not retrofit?

That's not retrofit face

[viscid swift]

could be using her base skin

I've scene some people do it

[weary gust]

Okay good

[brisk dragon]

not missing anything?

[stark quiver]

Are you the +12 demon

[brisk dragon]

only 1 i think

isn't it craftable tho?

[ivory pawn]

It is, albeit very expensive.

[brisk dragon]

resources aren't something i often lack " mainly cuz i literally never use "

well i invested too much time on this to just throw it

if it doesn't work however.... i'll cry and use a different team comp

[viscid swift]

anyway, do you not have Fritz, Amagi CV, Z52, etc

[brisk dragon]

hmmmm
pretty sure i have everyone. almost

[viscid swift]

are they ready to be used?

[brisk dragon]

let me see ....

fritz. not so ready . no
amagi cv. lvl 118 so almost there
z52 like fritz. no so ready

my URs

[viscid swift]

just do something like that then

[queen onyx]

anyone know where the mementos menu is for the event

[viscid swift]

tap the little button next to the bottom left of the formation button

[brisk dragon]

i'll save the img so where and use it tmrw

[hazy kiln]

Need some advice for +8 mission

#1355465271300849782 message

[soft raft]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[hazy kiln]

Yeah I'm trying to follow that the best I can, a lot I don't have

[brave musk]

is Unzen good?

[stark quiver]

yea

[atomic abyss]

UR, so yes
amongst URs, one of the best

joint best frontline DPS

[brave musk]

where is this?

[stark quiver]

try checking dorm

[hybrid forge]

I'm doing it with Alsace instead of Vanguard and Z52 instead of Aurora, but even at level 125 I am not coming clos eto doing it in 5 mins

[hybrid forge]

Mementos is on the main screen, switch out the event screen

[stark quiver]

auroras buff is massive

[hybrid forge]

Rather, switch out the buttons around battle, Mementos will pop up. There shoudl be a button to switch

[brave musk]

This?

[hybrid forge]

No, I'm doing the challenge mode, if nobody replies in a few minutes I'll show you

[brave musk]

k

[stark quiver]

next to formation button, there is a small arrow button
click that and go to momento

[brave musk]

ahhh thanks

[hybrid forge]

That's the one, right

[brave musk]

hmm... can't use the fifth

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately we cant help much with skins

[hybrid forge]

9:26 on YKK Challenge mode hard
I Mean, happy I did it, but wow that was close

Am I right in saying that this is the hardest? By a fair bit?

[worthy pine]

click on the clue thing aswell

[stark quiver]

youre correct

[worthy pine]

booba too big

[stark quiver]

difficulty is debatable between helena and yukikaze cm

[brave musk]

who i must upgrade next?

[storm heron]

not mogador

[weary gust]

Shinano, and you probably should have asked before doing Shima and UvH.

[atomic abyss]

rumey not shinano

shinano is 120, but can be LB with dupes from perma pity

[viscid swift]

that all of your URs?

[brave musk]

yes

[viscid swift]

Alsace then

[atomic abyss]

mlb NJ there tho

as is ulrich

and no UR CVs mlb

[weary gust]

Yeah Alsace is not going to do much more than those two.

[viscid swift]

I mean sure but Alsace will quite easily curbstomp both

[weary gust]

That's an exaggeration.

[atomic abyss]

and wouldnt rumey curb stomp every SR CV too?

[viscid swift]

also to be honest, I don't see them getting much use out of either CVs

[brave musk]

can u help me build team?

[viscid swift]

at least for now

[zenith pebble]

plymoth is tank?

[atomic abyss]

no

DPS and support

[storm heron]

might as well wait new URs tbh

[zenith pebble]

off tank or like helena

[viscid swift]

that's still the best part of 2 months off

[atomic abyss]

off tank
she can main tank if you have nothing tankier ofc

[zenith pebble]

cheshire lmao

[atomic abyss]

well if ply is dev 30, and chesh is fs5
chesh

if they're both at lvl 100, ply

if ply isnt dev 30, chesh

[zenith pebble]

i love you

[little yoke]

I've found i need 3 cycles to beat Jintsuu META and not my usual 2 cycles, the barrier is annoying. Is the strategy is to use 3 CVs?

[viscid swift]

in campaign up to W13 the difference will be moot
I don't see them tackling W14 anytime soon and for OpSi and META showdows, they'll get more value out of Alsace given the lack of gear for CVs among other things

[atomic abyss]

unless you have a really strong anti light CV comp
BBs would be easier to use

[little yoke]

I used NJ, Alsace, Vanguard. Maybe i need to swap the guns i guess? Use HE?

[atomic abyss]

Yes use HE

AP BB guns do like, 30-40% against light
HE deal 140%

[viscid swift]

she's light armor so of course use HE guns for your BBs

[little yoke]

[zenith pebble]

shinano, implac, enterprise, fill, fill, and sirius would be a decent cv fleet for opsi and base my timing off implac?

[viscid swift]

sure

[storm heron]

fill, kazagumo, sirius*

[atomic abyss]

yep
you'll want 2 IJN for the filler slots though

[zenith pebble]

why 2 ijn tho

[zenith pebble]

oop forgot about that skill, thx

[atomic abyss]

azuma would probably be the easiest good option to get

also acts as tank

[zenith pebble]

would i need to worry about shinano timing or just sync backline with implac?

[atomic abyss]

sync shinano and enterprise with implacable

[zenith pebble]

okie

21 seconds should be good right?

[atomic abyss]

priority would be best gear that makes all ships around a similar timing

not a specific timing itself

no point hitting 21 or 20s if the gear is shit

[zenith pebble]

got it, standard hell gear pre opsi?

[atomic abyss]

what

[zenith pebble]

hell diver and hellcat

[atomic abyss]

yep

[zenith pebble]

aye

[atomic abyss]

hellcat helldiver barracuda
if you're doing campaign, that's decent poverty gear

[drowsy sundial]

is it worth it to use the 1 star ships as enhancement material for my other ships?

[zenith pebble]

itll be slow but id say yes

[sinful escarp]

the gray ones yes. the blue, purple, and gold ones nope

[atomic abyss]

that's the expected normal use of gray rarity ships

[zenith pebble]

does flagship matter in cv or nah

[vale spindle]

only if the cv barrage is centered

ex. shinano (although her barrage is weak anyways)

[zenith pebble]

this is my cv fleet for opsi rn

[vale spindle]

then yea shinano flagship

[zenith pebble]

and for a bb fleet, what would i build?

[hazy kiln]

Are one of the two BB shells from core shop a good first purchase? Or are cores more situational for accounts or not until later

[zenith pebble]

white one

[marsh sparrow]

is it fine to scrap this aa gun?

[wind hazel]

sure

[kind needle]

Big ben any good?

[zenith pebble]

in zzz? no

[kind needle]

I meant Franklin, the event ship

USS Franklin, i use to call her Big Ben

[wind hazel]

she's pretty good

[zenith pebble]

people here say that shes good for new people

[wind hazel]

basically a lesser enterprise

[kind needle]

But, enty better?

[zenith pebble]

yes

enty easier to get too

[keen sable]

it most definitely isn't on the safe to scrap list. moreover, you bothered to make it in the first place.

[iron meteor]

is the eva ships just april fools?

[weary gust]

The Bulin event is the april fools event

[keen sable]

The Bulin Brigade is the april fools event

[iron meteor]

oh sorry should have sent a pic the commander-00 ones