gameplay-help

[rocky tinsel]

Makes sense, thanks

Now gotta read the guide for a BB AP gun. Realized I just have HE and normal

[frozen solstice]

No sense, is that what I'm doing?

[tame jungle]

you are most likely spending medals on requisition yes. do not do that

[hollow gust]

Don't pull with medals

[forest palm]

thanks for reestablishing what has been said for the 3rd time

[hollow gust]

[tame jungle]

there's 44 SSR ships in the requisition pool, with a 4% chance to pull a SSR from requisition that makes it roughly a 0.09% chance to pull a specific one

a guaranteed SSR from medal shop costs 80 medals, which is roughly 13 requisitions

the chance of getting the specific SSR with a 0.09% chance in 13 pulls is roughly 1.1% (compared to 100% guarantee from medal shop)

[white harbor]

How do I get to memento to get the code?

[wild hemlock]

the arrow thing next to formation

[white harbor]

Thank you

[onyx chasm]

is raffaello worth investing in?

[timid beacon]

UR BB, so yes

[storm heron]

the pends

[sweet delta]

Depends on your dock and bulins

[onyx chasm]

Cuz I'm getting smoked on ESP so I need better stuff

[timid beacon]

you need levels on your ships, for sure

[upbeat wagon]

MLB your ships

[onyx chasm]

Yh I've got sandy and carl in dorm

[tame jungle]

MLB

[upbeat wagon]

no

MLB not level, dont use non max limit broken ships

[sweet delta]

How are you gonna invest in raffaello when you have a 5 star Musashi

[upbeat wagon]

yeah limit break musashi first

[onyx chasm]

Apart from sandy everyone is MLB and I just MLB sandy so

[rose cosmos]

C15

[upbeat wagon]

musashi, saratoga and unicorn are 2 limit broken

[tame jungle]

you're literally lying lmao

[upbeat wagon]

and portland

[stark quiver]

Those who know

[upbeat wagon]

Dont use ships that arent max limit broken

[stark quiver]

Wrong

[upbeat wagon]

nvm sorry

[onyx chasm]

Like what....

[timid beacon]

refits don't get the extra stars

[stark quiver]

Not you

[upbeat wagon]

but musashi is not mlb so dont use her unless you can

[timid beacon]

so yeah, they're mlb. but definitely mlb Musashi

[atomic abyss]

dont bother with rafaello until you max limit break musashi

[onyx chasm]

I'm gonna MLB her in a sec

Now what? Do I just level the ships

[timid beacon]

yeah your ships are a bit underleveled for ESP

the vanguard mostly, which is what I'd expect are dying

[onyx chasm]

Yeah I recently got sandy so I started investing in her

I'm trying to use the event to farm exp since I'm not that far in campaign rn

[tame jungle]

which one's the farm stage for this event, T4?

[eternal basalt]

Night

[timid beacon]

makes sense. you've got some other ships that can take the heat in ESP for now, Baltimore and Helena

and they'll get levels too, which is nice

[sweet delta]

Dusk with 80 points per 4 oil

[onyx chasm]

Hm...

I just realised I can probs get a lot of UR Bulins

[timid beacon]

lol, well there you go!

[ivory pawn]

Enough to MLB another ship.

[eternal basalt]

That's only 4

Keep them for CN anni

[onyx chasm]

But I'm also on my way to retrofitting sandy. It's just my luck with these drops is abysmal

[timid beacon]

if he's got enough to mlb a ship now, and a ship in Raff to do it, might as well

[sweet delta]

Ignore the bottom row

[timid beacon]

better than letting Raff get any levels before mlb'ing

[eternal basalt]

And then have nothing for CN anni's 2

[timid beacon]

it's the beginning of April

[tame jungle]

i'd rather invest the bulins in the halfway finished musashi

[eternal basalt]

Yeah, and next month is CN anni

[timid beacon]

Musashi was finished now

[onyx chasm]

Dawg she's finished

[tame jungle]

so how many bulins can you get now

[timid beacon]

I mean, if they want to just let Raff sit there, ig

[onyx chasm]

4

[tame jungle]

then save

[timid beacon]

but that's a UR that can otherwise be used now

at full mlb

[onyx chasm]

I've also got implacable but idk if I want to use her or not

[timid beacon]

Implac is great

[tame jungle]

wait for anni

[timid beacon]

let's see your UR ships maybe?

[onyx chasm]

Cuz I feel like my bossing fleet's backline could be stronger

[onyx chasm]

1 sec... Also I'm saving up wisdom cubes for this "anni" event too so yh

Basically it

[storm heron]

bro has soy

or maybe not

[timid beacon]

what's Soyuz at?

[tame jungle]

i assume mlb

[sweet delta]

You can get another 4 bulins by mid cn anni so max someone now

[onyx chasm]

You'd be wrong...

[tame jungle]

full of surprises this one...

[onyx chasm]

I've also got A LOT of rare bulins

[timid beacon]

Syouz, Amagi, and Implacable are all great options to focus on first

Raff, not as impactful

[eternal basalt]

But you need 8

[timid beacon]

but like was said, there's likely 2 URs coming in just over a month, so if you mlb anyone now, might have to wait to use the new ones

but, you've also got great options sitting there now

[tame jungle]

it's not like the bulins will run away if you don't buy them...

(hopefully )

[crimson glacier]

why 2

[tame jungle]

for if it's a double ig

[forest palm]

BZ can show up

[sweet delta]

[storm heron]

tbh it's not like the new ones gonna be guaranteed to be significantly better than a soyuz or an amagi or implac

[crimson glacier]

its already been 2 years?

[storm heron]

another raffaelo case is possible

[onyx chasm]

I mean I doubt I'll be able to get enough cubes when the time comes

[eternal basalt]

No, that's AFTER CN anni

[timid beacon]

you've got solid options to pick from for now, at least

[hollow gust]

You have at least a month, it's kinda on you if you can't get enough cubes

[onyx chasm]

Yh ngl I might just go medal shop for these last two cuz I seriously can't be asked

[onyx chasm]

I had 300 before implacable

[tame jungle]

you'll get lucky trust

[timid beacon]

still got enough time to build up a stash

[onyx chasm]

All my UR's apart from Imp I've gotten in under 10 pulls

[tame jungle]

can we trade luck

[onyx chasm]

Is there a strat or

[eternal basalt]

12-4

[timid beacon]

commissions, dailies/weeklies, and the cruise missions that just reset

[tame jungle]

for cubes?

[storm heron]

apart from the obvious sources, just do comissions a lot

[onyx chasm]

Honestly I just go with the mindset, If I think she's cool I hope I get her and I get her

[onyx chasm]

Isn't that for levels or smth

[tame jungle]

hassat forgot to read...

[onyx chasm]

Cruise missions?

[eternal basalt]

Coins

[storm heron]

hassat CNed

[onyx chasm]

What for

[hollow gust]

You can make 300 in a month , then event is 2-3 weeks which is another 100-200

[eternal basalt]

To pull, you need coins and cubes

[onyx chasm]

Oh those

[eternal basalt]

3, anni

[worldly pewter]

this doesn't mean anything when the ship will almost get a rerun and still sitting at 3☆

[timid beacon]

yeah there's plenty of cubes in there, even just in the free track

[onyx chasm]

Well I finish weekly missions in a day or so... So yh

[storm heron]

I vote for mlb soyuz, apart from being a ur mlb, useful for cat and useful for pvp

[onyx chasm]

I mean musashi i got 3 copies of hence why she was 1 away from MLB

[worldly pewter]

how 3 is 1 away ?

[timid beacon]

I also say Soyuz. she's an amazing BB

[soft raft]

you need 4 Copies/bullins to MLB
LB1 = 1
LB2 = 1
MLB = 2

[eternal basalt]

5, you forget original

[timid beacon]

no, you don't read

[soft raft]

Copies

[atomic abyss]

hassat...

[storm heron]

you can have a heavy cv comp next month as well tbh, if you go for implac amagi and then get haku coining but idk how risky it is to spend all bulins and not preparing spare for anni

[soft raft]

i am not counting the original because to MLB them you'd need to have the ship in the first place

[tame jungle]

we are truly pendanticmaxxing today

[onyx chasm]

But yh I've maxed out weekly and I'm breezing through cruise missions. All that's left to do Is campaign right cuz I can't progress much of the event due to them needing ESP comps

[wooden wyvern]

Is there a new player/beginner/how to play through until mid game kinda guide/video/website etc

[onyx chasm]

pins

[timid beacon]

all good things towards progress then!

[storm heron]

we have a guide in /guide

[timid beacon]

but yeah if you want to mlb Soyuz, Amagi, or Impacable, or wait until CN anni - you've really got all the options available to you

plethora of good choices

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[timid solar]

Where can I find memento

[onyx chasm]

Yh my main focus is retroing sandy, getting enough points to start anchorage and getting cubes

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[wooden wyvern]

Thank you all

[timid beacon]

also good plans

[onyx chasm]

So for now I just wanna prog campaign for cubes right?

[timid beacon]

pretty much, yup

[onyx chasm]

With campaign do I wanna prioritise 3 stars or 100% to get through the chapters quickly

[atomic abyss]

3*

[cobalt gate]

get throuh it quickly till chapter 9

[timid beacon]

the 3 star rewards are usually good

[atomic abyss]

gems are from 3*

[tame jungle]

prioritize getting 3* quickly

[timid beacon]

actually, some of those 3* and clear rewards give cubes too, so extra bonus to your cube stock!

[inland shoal]

Pls don't react thumbsup to literally everything, it quickly bloats the chat

[wheat ore]

is the only benefit to having multiple copies of a ship for limitbreak, does this game have constellation machanic like in genshin?

[tame jungle]

only practical case is limit break yeah

[soft raft]

the limit break system is basically AL's equivalent of constellations

Except unlike genshin, universal Bullins exist

[tame jungle]

it's more like ascensions

[wheat ore]

oh right okay that makes sense

[timid beacon]

some folks do also keep copies so they can have the 'same' character use multiple skins. but yeah the only gameplay-practical use is mlb

[wheat ore]

that's a pretty big flex

also do people generally oath the ships that have a skin that comes with it?

[timid beacon]

port barbie goes hard

[timid beacon]

oath does a couple things. yes, unlocks the oath skin if the ship has one. but also increases stats

[tame jungle]

most important part is that she becomes your wife

[timid beacon]

so you can oath for skin unlocks, for stats or for lurve

[soft raft]

most people just oath for waifu, regardless of if they have a oath skin or not

tatical oathing for the stats is a 💳 thing and is mainly for META Showdown fights

[eternal basalt]

Not me, and had dseveral others in general too, oath for skin

[tame jungle]

you are most people?

[eternal basalt]

Most people around that time in general

[timid beacon]

#al-general if you're not saying anything new to help

[forest palm]

[wheat ore]

also how often are you supposed to get the texts in game, I think i had quite a few when i started but now barely any

[timid beacon]

depends. it's a new feature, so lots of ships don't have the text yet. many newly-added ships will have them though

[wheat ore]

oh right yeah i guess that makes sense

[timid beacon]

you'll also get new conversations with the same shipgirl if you oath and continue to build their affinity

if they have conversations at all, that is

[eternal basalt]

They get added with patches, mostly the new event ships. Some with skins or events, the secretary gets them added with their story etc.

[elfin hollow]

Guys, a question from a friend

"How does AA work in the main fleet?"
"AA in the vanguard seems to be an average DPS of all ships there"
"But I never really understood how it works in the main fleet"
'What I imagine happens is that the higher the average AA DPS of the main fleet, the greater the mitigation they receive from plane crashes"

If anyone can help answer this

[stark quiver]

Aa stat in main fleet decreases damage taken by planes , as guns are basically accelerators for whole fleet

[soft raft]

AA in backline mainly does 2 things

1. Contribute to the overall average AA RLD of the entire fleet
2. Reduce the damage they take from crash damage when enemy planes get past your vanguard

[elfin hollow]

This was useful even for me XD thanks!

[sweet delta]

Main fleet AA guns contribute to the average reload, average range, and total damage

[elfin hollow]

Oh

[crimson glacier]

isnt it kinda pointless to think about backline and frontline as different

[sweet delta]

Normal AA guns and time fuze guns have two separate averages

[crimson glacier]

both add all their guns to the circle, both get dmg reduction vs avi

i kinda forgot about fuze but so should everyone else

[elfin hollow]

I got it🫡

Tysm

[forest palm]

[zenith pebble]

[rough vale]

ESP is only more oil efficient than Night stages on the first clear daily or if you can 1:1 everything.
I'm using 3:3 fleets for PR/Affection farming, does this mean T4 Night is more efficient than ESP?

[eternal basalt]

Without a token, yes

[dry parcel]

Does anyone have fleet comp for W14 lethal on auto? Without Anchorage.

[undone plover]

/w15 has templates for 15 that will work in 14 but if u dont have anchorage u probably dont have everything recommended in that guide either
better post your dock in a thread to get specifc recommendations

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[zenith pebble]

why are there 3 fleets in that guide?

[dry parcel]

Nah. I just don't have her specifically.
But thx

[rocky tinsel]

Anyone know where on the wiki I can find the maximum tuning levels for operation sciren?

[zenith pebble]

203/203/156

[undone plover]

ch15 has a support fleet of 3 CV u can use to help with AA by interception

[zenith pebble]

oh, so a crossfleet type thing?

[undone plover]

kind of
they are not physically present on the map or during the fight
they send interception waves like normal carriers
but they do no surface dmg
they just help with AA

that is why u will see most ppl use 2x fighter slot carriers in that fleet since they are best at this job

[zenith pebble]

i see

what about the 3 example fleets? which one should i base my w15 adventure on?

[rocky tinsel]

Thank you AVIS

[undone plover]

I think fleet 1 and fleet 2 are interchangeable
so building around either one is fine

fleet 3 is probably the best mob fleet of the 3
it relies on mob to fight boss 1 and boss 3 so that is why your boss fleet can be weaker

depending on your limited ship options u can go for any comp u want
the guide is to give a general idea what u want in the fleets
basically good asw, good tank, good AA (a lot of AA )

as far as backline goes musashi unicorn aquila is basically like cheating for mob

[quick mason]

Aren't this both same?

[zenith pebble]

volga and aquila are interchangeable too?

i gave up on pulling for aquila a long time ago

[undone plover]

with musashi aquila is better
without musashi volga is better iirc
if u use a lot of DD in mob zuihou is better iirc

[dry parcel]

Can wolfpack replace american subs?

[zenith pebble]

ill go back pulling for her

[undone plover]

wait for may

wishing well event basically increases your odds of getting her by ~1000%

[zenith pebble]

??????? we still do that?

[undone plover]

sure
wolfpack has less oxy so I think u need to be more careful when u call them tho

[undone plover]

wdym still
there should still be a wishing well event in may and in august yes
whether ppl should pull on WW depends on if u want anything from perma and if u have enough cubes to spare some builds

[timid beacon]

wishing well? yeah we had 2 or 3 of them last year

[undone plover]

one in may one in august

[zenith pebble]

so next month gonna have a lot of stuff?

[undone plover]

the website also has an end game tier list
U can open the spreadsheet and sort by ch15 mob and ch15 boss to see what ships are tiered high for that chapter btw

[sweet delta]

Left is better because much more damage, not much slower

[undone plover]

may is usually CN anni so yes expect a major UR event
this month not sure
probably another new event and/or rerun

[zenith pebble]

i see the spreadsheet but should i just pick the best 9 ships for everything or just pick a few and build my fleet around them?

[undone plover]

that is why I said read the guide as well
picking 3 CA/CB tanks for mob is a bad idea
u want synergy and ships to do specific jobs

mainly u want enough ASW and AA
and having dps does not hurt

guam for example is a good tank and amazing AA
laffey II is a good tank, decent AA and great ASW
usually 1 great ASW DD + hedgehog and unicorn on asw aux plane is enough but more always better

[brisk isle]

I just started yesterday and noticed there’s no “10 pull” for beginners. I pulled a few times on the event banner but didn’t get any UR. Is that normal?

[weary gust]

Considering there's no event UR rn so there's no rateup and rateup for URs is only 1.2%, yes, not getting a UR in 10 pulls is extremely normal.

[sharp comet]

does somebody have this updated for ch15?

[undone plover]

not exactly the same but put it through translator and u will get it

[brisk isle]

I just thought I’d be able to get at least one random UR when starting out

[sharp comet]

ty

[weary gust]

Save your cubes for UR events. You're guaranteed to get them after 200 builds, if you don't get them before that. Also UR ships are not immediately useful to new players due to requiring limit breaking and not having the resources for that.

[undone plover]

may event is UR event CN anni
we just had a UR rerun so I wouldnt expect another one till then
there are UR in perma banner but better save cube for may event
perma UR is not going anywhere
Also u dont need UR to do well early on

[forest palm]

any UR won't even be usable early

[brisk isle]

Also do we actually have to wait for the ships to build when pulling on banners? The quick finish seems to be limited

[weary gust]

You should get more quick finishers than you can use if you're active. They come pretty steadily over time through commisions/missions.

[forest palm]

scarce early on more abudent as you play

[weary gust]

I remember only being limited on them for the first week or two of playing, after that have been in net positive ever since.

[forest palm]

you only tank Quick Finishers if you're a collector

[novel solstice]

Even if you're a collector, you'll pile them up. I've got every ship, have literally never built a ship without using a quick finisher, and I've got around five thousand of them sitting around because the game gives you so many if you play regularly.

[split bramble]

is rat gun better then twin 57 in pve?

[fast frigate]

Yk the event pity is /200 and it takes 2 cubes per build, does it count 2 everytime or js 1

[split bramble]

1 build

so 400 cube

[weary gust]

You get ~200 cubes guranteed monthly if you do all your daily activities/logins. You get about as many again if you're active on commisions.

[zenith pebble]

200? No way

[split bramble]

way more then 200

[zenith pebble]

Fr?

[split bramble]

like if you are semi active you get quite a bit each month

[sharp comet]

minimum is 168 with missions and such and this will go higher with commissions and shop

[zenith pebble]

is there anything in gear lab i should finish first or is it just based on the person?

[forest palm]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[fast frigate]

Oh helll nawh

[zenith pebble]

ive made a pancake and a wyvern but idk what else to make

[zenith pebble]

ive been basing my stuff on it, but what catagory do i start with

[split bramble]

ur guns are all worth it imo and some planes

best aa

[forest palm]

UR Guns aren't really worth ....

[zenith pebble]

pancake, tenrai, and wyvern are the only planes im making

[zenith pebble]

the bb ones seem to be, better than what i have rn

[sharp comet]

u spend 3x the amount of plates on UR than u would on gold gear

[zenith pebble]

and the ca, but idk if i wanna make cl guns

[split bramble]

bruh

[tame jungle]

wyvern most important by far

[zenith pebble]

i wan big pp damage and make admin proud of me

[split bramble]

yeah and they are bis, you know you can swap around the gears right?

[tame jungle]

why the fuck are we talking about plates now

[zenith pebble]

i finsihed opsi yesterday lmao

[sharp comet]

not worth it if u can get more early on at +13

[split bramble]

why u +13?

[forest palm]

even then, it's still a no

[split bramble]

nah, its worth itt

[sharp comet]

because +13 guns are better than +10 ur most times?

[zenith pebble]

yeah no im +13 everything

[forest palm]

[zenith pebble]

i worded that wrong

[split bramble]

you are not using +13 gold guns other then triple 406 and some random ass dd guns in end games, and +10 is enough for everything else

[zenith pebble]

thats all it takes?

[forest palm]

slow it down a bit, don't throw Gold Plates around, most UR Guns aren't used as frequently as you may think, in fact some SSR Guns are generally better in most situations, really though a lot of it is securing good planes

[zenith pebble]

dont make guns yet, just make planes basically

[sharp comet]

there are 3 bb guns that are worth +13

and countless of gold planes lol

[split bramble]

yeah and 2 of them are ur

[sharp comet]

wrong, gold

[split bramble]

1 is triple 406

[forest palm]

[sharp comet]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_406mm_(16"/56_Mk_4_Prototype)#Type_0-0
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Model_1940_Prototype)#Type_0-0
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)#Type_0-0

[split bramble]

you are wrong

[zenith pebble]

im only gonna +13 pancake, everything else seems pointless

[sharp comet]

lol

[split bramble]

1st 1 and last 1 is not worth +13

[tame jungle]

holy fuck no don't +13 mk4 or sap bb

[forest palm]

only one of these is worth +13

please stop recommending bad things

[zenith pebble]

i just wanted to know which catagory to finish first in gear lab

[split bramble]

if you need to worry about that you shouldn't be building other then the pure necessary equips

[sharp comet]

elaborate how the sap is not worth +13

[forest palm]

[zenith pebble]

so planes rn, ive still been rocking hellcat

[tame jungle]

+13 champagne gun can be used against both medium and heavy

[undone plover]

1-2 junker87d torpedo bomber
1-2 triple 155kai CL gun
2 wyverns
Flapjacks when u are done with the above
Quad mags when u need them and if u got unlucky with KMS techboxes

[sweet delta]

Only bad players like kimo cheese recommend +13 Marco gun

[split bramble]

like gold equips are enough for you to finish most campaign except maybe the last stage of 15, maybe get 2 wyverns or smth

[undone plover]

U shouldnt +13 gear for campaign anyway

[split bramble]

honestly other then the mission reward there isn't too much of a point of completing above 12-4, the best exp is 11- , best money to oil is 12-4.

[zenith pebble]

i should be able to make these or finish the rest next month? and why junker tb? why not spearfish?

[split bramble]

because there is no point

[undone plover]

Junker TB opens up a lot of bossing comps
Spearfish is hella expensive and not better than wyvern anyway

[split bramble]

like you don't need it, might as well spend the resources on some other stuff

[tame jungle]

if you don't need it you might as well save the resources*

[undone plover]

Some ppl need the gems from higher campaign maps

[split bramble]

true, unlike me just spend it all levelling ships, be poor af

[tame jungle]

see?

[forest palm]

try not to haphazardly give advice, especially if you're regurgitating what you've seen in this channel

[tame jungle]

sorry!

[forest palm]

not you

[zenith pebble]

so would i prioritize junker or wyvern? or is junker just a placeholder for wyvern

i can make another wyvern rn without stress

[tame jungle]

depends on your goals, wyvern's more of a late campaign pick over junker being a single target bossing pick (opsi)

[split bramble]

what are you making it for?

[forest palm]

Wyvern and Junkers are different plane types altogether

[undone plover]

Junker is cheaper and helps for bossing early on
Then u can work on wyvern next
If u have ryuusei saiun kai and vit2 (pr7 plane) u can get the wyvern first
Especially if u want to tackle ch15 soon
Junker will not help with ch15

[zenith pebble]

w14 and preparing for w15. then easier opsi clearing

ahhh, i can save my resources for something else then, got it

[undone plover]

U want 2 junkers eventually but if your bossing fleets are not struggling u can prioritize the wyvern for now

[zenith pebble]

i see, but further developing my dock and getting better at the game i want wyverns and pancakes since theyre considered the best in damage

[undone plover]

For ch14 having 2 155kai (CL gun) is the most crucial tbh

[zenith pebble]

its what im missing rn lmao

[undone plover]

But it uses 0 electronics and 6 t2 ordnance so not that hard to build 2
It will delay your flapjacks tho but get 2 anyway u will need em

[zenith pebble]

i think i have 5 irdnance rn? kind of messed up last month when i used 8 to make a t3

[dry parcel]

Other than level, is that comp fine?

[undone plover]

Dont slack on opsi then
U can get around 15 per month

[split bramble]

Yeah

[zenith pebble]

guam tank

[split bramble]

yeah put sandy in the middle

[undone plover]

Switch alsace and shinano
And guam and san diego
Also brest not doing much in mob if your tank is laffey

What chapter is this?

[dry parcel]

W14-1

[zenith pebble]

does r6 drop ordnance?

[split bramble]

and swap alsace with shinano

[undone plover]

R6 siren guarantees 1 t2 ordnance yes

[zenith pebble]

BET I GOT ONE IN SHOP

[split bramble]

lmao

congrats

[zenith pebble]

give me 5 more hours to get back the ap heal thing

[undone plover]

Honestly I would switch brest and san diego as well
Sandy asw helps mob more
And amagi might need more levels

Also if u have FdG u might want to use her over NJ
NJ is not the best in ch14 afaik

[split bramble]

do you have most of the lab ships dev 30?

[dry parcel]

Yes

[split bramble]

i prefer using plymouth instead of jean

honestly i think using most ur would solve most of the issues, other then I think using asw planes for some of your cv, idk if you needed it for 14

[dry parcel]

Who is better than NJ? I have most of the BBs

[undone plover]

Musashi > Friedrich in ch14

[split bramble]

musashi

[dry parcel]

What gun should I give her?

[split bramble]

i was using the purple 410 kai, i think there might be better choices in the ur secction

[undone plover]

twin410kai

[split bramble]

i guess i was right

[zenith pebble]

so the purple 410 is the actual best on her no matter where?

[stark quiver]

Twin 410 Kai or twin 410 pr7

[stark quiver]

I wouldn’t use the purple 410 vs heavy

[undone plover]

twin 410 pr7 is the best vs medium/heavy in bossing
for mobbing they are very similar

[stark quiver]

Gold gun = more fleet power

[weary gust]

That beaver tag is being wasted.

[split bramble]

mine is def not optimal

[undone plover]

it is probably pvp but no mikasa gun

[stark quiver]

Beeva on sash that’s not PvP

[split bramble]

yeah pvp, wasn't being optimal with gears

[stark quiver]

Lwk change the main gun to a mikasa or the other blue ijn and you’ll be fine

[split bramble]

pretty standard comp, didn't really need to change gears lol, but yeah probably should

[weary gust]

It's not worth putting pvp specific gears on ships you'll use in other places. PVP is easy enough as it is.

Unless you really don't mind switching gears 30x per day.

[split bramble]

that is true

[undone plover]

honestly with non pvp gear u will struggle vs top comps
unless u pay attention to screen and restart but anyway this isnt pvp channel

[split bramble]

🫡

[weary gust]

#pvp for how to do better in pvp. #gameplay-help to learn that tryharding pvp is a waste of time.

[undone plover]

I am tryharding bulins
and I want to hit exercise and not pay attention to screen

[sweet delta]

#al-general to learn that tryharding pve is a waste of time in this waifu game

[zenith pebble]

i just waste money on this game

[dry parcel]

Amagi have sunk before she could launch her first airstrike on boss

[split bramble]

need to level it up more

[dry parcel]

Won anyway

[split bramble]

is it mlb?

[undone plover]

what is alsace gear?
this sounds like amagi got revealed by suicide boats and then nuked

[weary gust]

Alsace isn't flag either in that earlier ss.

[undone plover]

we said twice to switch her to flag

[undone plover]

well one thing u can check is amagi and shinano airstrike timers
if it is too close desync them a bit

[weary gust]

... is the wiki missing the entry for the BB sword augment?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Augment_Modules#tabber-tabpanel-Max_Stats-0

[undone plover]

can even use musashi in boss and FdG in mob
activates shinano
does more dmg
protects amagi

[carmine heath]

how are you meant to level subs? books?

[weary gust]

Dorm, books, opsi, raid events, over time in normal farming maps.

[undone plover]

officer's sword
It has it

[weary gust]

Where? I don't see that and ctrl+f is not finding it either.

It's in the min stats section, but not the max stats section

[undone plover]

yeah u are right
the max stat does not have it

[weary gust]

Now that I'm looking the scepter is also not in there for max stats.

And neither is normal sword

[languid reef]

do blue vs purple augments make a noticable difference
i for some reason have a ton of blues hanging around

[weary gust]

No reason to use blues. You feed blues to purples as enhance material.

[dry parcel]

Do I still need to replace Jeanne with Ply?

[timid beacon]

is this a mobbing fleet?

[dry parcel]

Boss

[timid beacon]

oh, yeah definitely then

[plain saffron]

What's the best stage to farm milestone

[weary gust]

The event? 4

[plain saffron]

No don't use as enhance mats, upgrade to purple instead for good ones

[weary gust]

You get way more blue augs than you'll upgrade to purples, and the only way to get rid of them is using them as enhance material.

[plain saffron]

You're wasting 2 augment cores if you feed as exp

Put on ships

[plain saffron]

Night? Any buff selected?

[weary gust]

4 buffs, doesn't matter which four.

[plain saffron]

Noted

[eager mulch]

what’s frostfal

[plain saffron]

/wiki frostfall

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Juustagram/Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Action_Report_-_Frostfall
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Action_Report:_Frostfall

Apr 4, 2025, 1:22 AM

[eager mulch]

frost fall

[rough vale]

Please let there be a Frostfall rerun. Need all 3 for collection

[spice phoenix]

are the proto vit-2 torps converging or parallel?

[stark quiver]

the original one is parallel
the mode change is converging

[spice phoenix]

huh? (didnt know you could change modes)

[stark quiver]

theyre 2 different planes
theres a vit2 thats parallel torps
and theres a vit2 from pr7 thats converging

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Polikarpov_VIT-2_(Mode_Change_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prototype_VIT-2_(VK-107)

[spice phoenix]

oh sorry thanks

[eager mulch]

change modes by changing the plane fr

[grizzled sundial]

Is there an aux that make your ship fire a forward laser beam ? This Napoli in exercise fire that beam but i don't see her do that in simulation .

[sweet delta]

/wiki dynamic can

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dynamic_Cannon

[brisk isle]

Does this game have a sweep option for stages? Or do I have to manually burn oil?

[viscid swift]

there is no sweep function

not that such a feature makes much sense in AL

[fast frigate]

is u-96 sub good

[viscid swift]

yes

[polar lion]

Dorm food

[fast frigate]

worth it to limit break?

[wanton dawn]

can i ask which is better? the 24s or 23s thanks

[brisk isle]

Could you explain what that means? New player here

[soft raft]

you can buy dorm curry with oil

[polar lion]

U can buy dorm food with oil

[viscid swift]

when you get around to leveling a sub fleet and don't have better options sure

[wanton dawn]

is it correct that for converging dive bombers, i should try to use vit and if timing is off, try to use other dive bombers to time?

[atomic abyss]

Assuming you mean converging torpedo bombers

Yes pretty much

[wanton dawn]

oh yea mb:(

[atomic abyss]

Though the difference in dmg is not that significant
Timing more important

[wanton dawn]

ic... so the comp with all vit here is prob better right? i think as long as they are 0.2 s before and after avp is fine right?

[molten zinc]

and do note that VIT2 is slow af so the last strike CV usually will miss if you're using AvP to slow

[wanton dawn]

slow as in it takes long time to reload or the torps itself move slowly?

[molten zinc]

The plane's flight speed is slow so it drop the torp much later compare to other coverging torp so be mindful when you're using them

[atomic abyss]

Ehh

[wanton dawn]

so what should the time difference be? im using 0.2s

[atomic abyss]

+-0.2 at most

It should be as close as possible lol

[wanton dawn]

just so im clear, it is 0.2 before avp and 0.2 after avp, so maximum of 0.4?

[sweet delta]

If you use vit with AvP then the vit user better be the first CV to strike. Which is kinda hard without beacon because ... Vit has slow reload

[atomic abyss]

Yes like that
But again, going closer is better

[sweet delta]

0.2 means it's good for 3 or 4 strikes

[wanton dawn]

icic

[sweet delta]

0.03 means it's good for 10 minutes

[wanton dawn]

ohhhhhh that's why the timing goes off when im in meta fights

[sweet delta]

Meta is only 80s which is 3 strikes usually

[wanton dawn]

wait mb i mean the um monthly thing forgot the name

[sweet delta]

You want AvP to be second, and you want the third CV to be no later than 0.6s than AvP on every strike. That means 0.6/0.2 = 3 so 0.2 slower per strike is good for 3 strikes

[wanton dawn]

somehow if i all use vit for all the available slots, the math kinda works

[sweet delta]

CVs after AvP will miss with vit somewhat commonly

[wanton dawn]

icic that makes sense ty

[sweet delta]

And I recommend trying to find something that uses a mix of TBs. You don't want to +13 five vits and zero of the others

Also your AvP is missing an Ironblood plane for some AVI

[molten zinc]

+13 2 of each first then +13 more when you feel like you need them

[sweet delta]

So I would recommend the 23s you found. See if giving haku ju87d on her third plane slot makes her too slow

[wanton dawn]

yea it does... but i think if i give ju87d to shinano she goes a bit faster so the timing is closer

[sweet delta]

AvP should be second

[wanton dawn]

ohhh okk got it

[hushed dawn]

What Tech should I focus on after CV and BB RLD?

[stark quiver]

hit/acc

[hushed dawn]

For CVs and BBs?

What about for Vanguard tech? Anything worth focusing there?

[stark quiver]

yee

vanguard is also fp/hit

[turbid nebula]

where on earth are memories? Wiki just says 'go to memories' and I cannot find it anywhere

[sinful escarp]

this arrow

[spice phoenix]

is this any good? (thinking abt using it on hindenburg)

[sinful escarp]

its a niche item,

[honest sequoia]

Whats the buff for going beyond +10 beside OpSi dmg boost?

[sweet delta]

A hidden coefficient you can find on wiki or larsdb

Basically, +13 weapon does about 18% more damage than the same at +10

[slow fox]

suchispotted

[scarlet laurel]

would 12-4 give more xp or 13-1?

[daring scaffold]

12-4

[scarlet laurel]

🫃

[zenith pebble]

coin too?

or would it be coin to oil ratio

[forest palm]

12-4 is still better

If you wanted more coin per oil you'd have to do 13-4 but forgo xp farming 6 ships

[normal cedar]

is there any oil capped stage apart from event night and universe in unison sp5 before world 9?

[wind hazel]

most war archives EX i guess, divergent chessboard is good if you want to collect IB ships

[split bramble]

what dd tech to focus on?

[wind hazel]

fp

[split bramble]

after that?

torp？

[wind hazel]

honestly im not sure after fp lol

[split bramble]

thanks, its just that I've done fp lol

[stark quiver]

if theres hit then i guess that
then rld and trp and whatnot

[split bramble]

hit? you mean accuracy?

[stark quiver]

hit/acc is same

[split bramble]

ok so thats nearly done, I guess its rld then trp

[forest palm]

TRP is really the only sizable stat in terms of tech for DDs after FP, Hit maybe, but RLD won't do much

[normal cedar]

how do you even obtain purple exp books in game? I've never seem them being given as rewards nor are they produced in lecture?

[reef flume]

Cruise Pass

[frank pulsar]

iirc purple exp packs are pay walled
but it doesn't matter since youll have more than enough of the blue exp ones

[cobalt gate]

I wish I could store more blue ones

[drowsy sundial]

hello everybody, its been a very long time where ive been playing azur lane, so ive decided to start from the ground up, would anybody pls share me a guide on what to do? i would like to get illustrious as soon as possible

[rain vine]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[wind hazel]

why illustrious

[sinful escarp]

uhhh i dont recommend starting from scratch in a new server
just continue where your current one is at now

and if you are a returnee who didnt play for a long time, you get some good freebies

[drowsy sundial]

because i really like her

[forest palm]

ok but why start a new acc...

[drowsy sundial]

im not sure if ive still got my old account tbh

[forest palm]

that's easy enough to find out

[drowsy sundial]

how?
do i login with the old email or such?

lets see

[waxen valley]

should i focus finishing the story or do the event first

[jaunty vault]

uhh do all investigations and atleast 32k milestone points

[waxen valley]

thank you

[eternal basalt]

As I said in general, Event IS the story.

[waxen valley]

what do u mean

im kind of overwhelmed and don't remember how to play tbh it been like 2 years lmaoo

[jaunty vault]

this is a new event type so ig that makes sense

[eternal basalt]

We only get story through events.

[sinful escarp]

i think by story he means the campaign story, next time just call it campaign

[waxen valley]

yes that is what i meant sorry

[jaunty vault]

ah well my point still stands

[waxen valley]

thank you

[eternal basalt]

Campaign story ends with chapter 3, if there there is not much of the event you CAN do

[waxen valley]

im at chap 10-4

[wind hazel]

just go do event. campaign isn't running away

[waxen valley]

thank you

[drowsy sundial]

how can i switch accounts? ive never done that before in azur lane

[waxen valley]

i am sad just missed implacable

[eternal basalt]

Select another server

[wind hazel]

that is switching server

[eternal basalt]

Well the other option is illegal sooooooo

[sinful escarp]

click on the website bindings to login to your old account

[waxen valley]

what is the best way ro farm coins

[sinful escarp]

12-4

[waxen valley]

so should i do event and then get to 12-4

wish i didn;t stop playing so much i missed

[eternal basalt]

She will become permanent in about a year

[waxen valley]

oh yay

a character i really want as well is emden i hope that she comes back soon

[jaunty vault]

playing on two accounts is illegal?

[wind hazel]

it is

[drowsy sundial]

im logged in on my old account, kinda impressive, but, i do think that starting over is better, so ill switch back to the new one

[normal cedar]

I also started over after coming back post 4 year break
My first account was really badly managed now that I look back

[waxen valley]

why do you think starting over wld be better

[drowsy sundial]

yeah, thats also what im thinking

[normal cedar]

depends on the state of your previous account, mine was only at world 4 so it didn't take me much time to catch up

[drowsy sundial]

im "new" to the game again, the stuff ive did back then probably was very bad, and all that jazz, so i feel like i would be feeling more at "home" with a new account, not sure if it makes sense

[wind hazel]

starting over is always worse

[waxen valley]

ah yeah i understand that does make sense, i kind of have forgotten how to play and don't rly know what i should be doing to catch up lol

[drowsy sundial]

is this 2011? or what is akashi saying here, been way to long

[normal cedar]

22 year 2 month 11 date I think

[drowsy sundial]

yeah, thats exactly it, besides, i need to learn alot more, since i never understood the equipment stuff

[wind hazel]

11 feb 2022

[drowsy sundial]

oooooh, so it hasnt been to long

[waxen valley]

i really like Kearsarge so i want to build up fleet tech points, starting over wld not be good idea for that

i dont know best way to get them tho

[drowsy sundial]

kearsage? is she new?

[waxen valley]

yeah she is a pr ship

[drowsy sundial]

pr ship?

one more reason i wanna start over

[normal cedar]

dr and pr =research, you have to do tasks to unlock them

[drowsy sundial]

i feel like i dont k ow anything anymore

[forest palm]

starting over would only make more work for you

[sweet delta]

What if youve been stuck on 11-3 for 6 months and scrapped all your good gear and have zero tech packs left?

[drowsy sundial]

ooooh thaat, wasnt it the case for friedrich?

[normal cedar]

yes

[waxen valley]

how does research work again i don't remember what to be doing in research academy lol

[wind hazel]

still worse

[drowsy sundial]

gosh, why can i remember this of all things

[waxen valley]

im trying to get agir rn

[sweet delta]

And spent all gems on expanding depot space

[wind hazel]

but can't be worse than gph banned 🏃🏼‍➡️

[forest palm]

[drowsy sundial]

is there a way where i can see when this account has been created?

[waxen valley]

i believe the date on ur note is when u started

[wind hazel]

on anniversary

[drowsy sundial]

where can i find that?

[waxen valley]

in this pic

[drowsy sundial]

nah i believe it was around 2016 or such

[waxen valley]

oh then yeah i dunno sorry LMAOO

[wind hazel]

on anniversary you'll get to see something like this

[drowsy sundial]

isnt it like than reminder when i logged in the last time?

[waxen valley]

how does one collect 98% of ships bruh

how big of a dock do u need

[wind hazel]

not even 100% not worth talking about

[waxen valley]

lol i am at what like 32%

[random eagle]

[waxen valley]

i need good help

[drowsy sundial]

i cant find the anniversary thingy

[wind hazel]

yes because it only appears on anniversary...

[drowsy sundial]

fair enough

[wind hazel]

which is on august, you know, to celebrate the anniversary

[drowsy sundial]

yeah, my bad

[waxen valley]

i just missed a skin i want for Scylla

any idea when will it be back

[forest palm]

probably black friday

[drowsy sundial]

so ive got all these, and this was my team back then, i really had no idea how to build a team or with the equipment and all that jazz

is this a good account?

[waxen valley]

my fren built the fleets i have so i can't help u i dunno how to build either ;-; sorry

[drowsy sundial]

its okay

[waxen valley]

i need to learn how to make fleets too im lost on the game tbh overwhelmed

[wind hazel]

remove graf, use unicorn

maybe use z23 instead of z46 since no gold bulin in sight, you probably need z23 to do the rookie missions too

[waxen valley]

would u be able to help me w mine ;-; LOL

[wind hazel]

show

[waxen valley]

it's quite a mess i dont know how best to sort my chars lmao

These are the teams my friend set up for me years ago

It’s so mess I’m sorry LOL

[vestal yoke]

is it worth doing the requisition thing?

[wind hazel]

no

[bleak nymph]

Assuming same gear, who has better potential for max dmg, Implacable or rumey?

[honest sequoia]

Guys why do UR prints from shop doesn’t reset after a month

[crimson glacier]

proto shop? coz they just dont

[sinful escarp]

Its a one time purchase for the ur prints there

[nocturne glade]

how many bf109Gs is a good amount to have? I only have two atm and was wondering how many more I should look to make

[crimson glacier]

cant you just wait and only make them if you need more

[woven star]

if you don't have HVAR and have let's say Fritz Rumey, York 2 and Kearsage then let's say 5 will be enough for full team

[stark eagle]

Who is better?

[woven star]

it's all depends on setup... usually La-9->HVAR->bf 109. depend on team and what you have

[atomic abyss]

I feel like you've come here and asked this question before
They're different functionally, but around the same level - good but mostly replaceable

If you absolutely had to choose 1, Voroshilov

[woven star]

@nocturne gladeah, switch reasearch to 7 if you still on rs4. if you got them from sesearch time to stop anyway)

[atomic abyss]

Because they don't reset
It's a 1x purchase

[atomic abyss]

Rumey for med and light
Impla for heavy
Do note impla is meant to be utility not a DPS

[zenith pebble]

Would there be a reason to abandon my other accounts on other servers and just play on washington?

[crimson glacier]

is there a reason to keep those accounts

[atomic abyss]

You should be focusing on the account you've already been playing on to begin with

[stark eagle]

Yes I did but I forgot What there answer was 🥲

[atomic abyss]

The answer back then was also Voroshilov

[zenith pebble]

Im not sure if there is a reason. Im done with everything i can think of on washington but still wanna grind more

No oil, dorm is stacked, no coins, opsi done with the daily missions, hell even exercises are done

[atomic abyss]

Then go play something else

Or touch grass

This is exactly how you get burnt out

[zenith pebble]

Done with zzz, and its night time

[atomic abyss]

Then go to sleep

[zenith pebble]

[atomic abyss]

As many people have said

This game is a marathon, not a sprint

A lot of things in this game are time gated, which even whaling can't fully solve

[zenith pebble]

I wish to become skk

[wary hawk]

Eventually youll sit on thousands of oil with no motivation to spend it

Enjoy it while it lasts :)

[zenith pebble]

Oh yeah you can buy oil

[eternal basalt]

Especially since dead weeks are coming

[zenith pebble]

Dead weeks?

[eternal basalt]

Weeks with a filler event

[atomic abyss]

No UR events, basically

[zenith pebble]

Oh sweet, something to do

[atomic abyss]

Unfortunately, only a problem solveable with more time

[zenith pebble]

How did goose become goose in terms of azur lane?

How homie good?

[crimson glacier]

any translators?

[atomic abyss]

Because he's played the game for a really long time
He's not actually a newbie lol

[zenith pebble]

How does one min max in this game? Legit everything is all set in terms of stats so its basically a puzzle to have the correct gear and stuff

[atomic abyss]

Fleet tech

[eternal basalt]

Oath everyone

[atomic abyss]

The stat bonus most ships give at level 120 that are applied to all ships of the same hull type

[zenith pebble]

So to put it simply, collect every ship and get them to 120

[atomic abyss]

Well not every ship has this, but yes

[zenith pebble]

That sounds easy enough ngl

[crimson glacier]

most ships give useless stats

[atomic abyss]

Consider that most ships are limited

And that it takes time (and oil) to grind them to 120

[zenith pebble]

Everything is locked behind time, which i have years of

[atomic abyss]

You're also gated by the amount of cognitive chips

[zenith pebble]

Dorms lmao

[eternal basalt]

And cog chips... never enough chips

[atomic abyss]

Dorms are a joke for exp

[zenith pebble]

My girls get to relax damnit

[atomic abyss]

That's for morale

[zenith pebble]

My anchy will get to 125 eventually

[atomic abyss]

I'll be honest
At the rate you're going, you'll probably quit long before you get the chance to 120 everything from pure burn out

[zenith pebble]

That could potentially happen but i sure hope not

[slow fox]

-# I would also choose Voroshilov

[zenith pebble]

like russians

[atomic abyss]

Take it as a marathon

If you're legitimately too bored, go start playing a different game

[tame jungle]

azur lane is a contentmaxx game

autorepeat on the 2nd monitor, alongside youtube/a show, then play a different game on the main monitor (guaranteed way to make your brain explode)

[zenith pebble]

Id rather not go back to league of legends

Oh yeah, i finished everything on zzz that way -3-

[nocturne glade]

I guess that makes sense too

[nocturne glade]

not from research

[atomic abyss]

Try a non gacha game then
Since those are the kinds that you can grind eternally (mostly) without time gate

If you want recommendations for those
Can ask in #off-topic

And torva usually has good recommendations for such things

[zenith pebble]

I see

Should the average player be worried about timing and stuff? Id rather just sortie and forget

[bleak nymph]

Before actual endgame probably not.

[atomic abyss]

Average player no

Good player yes

[wary hawk]

Azur lane is a pretty good gacha in the sense that you can skip a couple of days outside of big events and not feel like you've lost any progress.
Can probably skip a few days inside of events too

[atomic abyss]

And you said you want to be a good player, so that's something you'll want to look into eventually

At least, someone one shotting arbiters would have to be a good player at least

[bleak nymph]

I’m about to start pushing w13 today, what is the gimmick? There’s a command for it right?

[atomic abyss]

There isn't for w13

[zenith pebble]

Manually would be good option to do in w15?

[atomic abyss]

The tldr is, planes
Loads of them

[zenith pebble]

W13 you should be able to complete with a non goose competent fleet and decent gear before opsi

[bleak nymph]

So I need to finish the sandy retro skill leveling first if I don’t want to lose my mind

[atomic abyss]

You probably want 1 AA specialist in each fleet
3 carrier mob, 1 BB 2 carrier boss

[zenith pebble]

By w14, you should probably touch opsi

[atomic abyss]

Pretty much
It isn't inherently challenging but uh, why make your life more difficult

I shd make it clear that outside the gem rewards and limited ship drops
There's little reason to push past 12

Hence why I suggest patience

[bleak nymph]

Eh pretty much just need a goal now, been taking it slow for years lol

[dreamy blade]

w13 is just w12 pro max

[carmine heath]

do I use baltimore or siriusin a fleet with yk2 enty and kears?

[atomic abyss]

You'll never see Baltimore realistically

So Sirius, cos of accuracy up

[normal cedar]

any tricks we need to use to get s rank on event night? im getting a rank due to not enough damage in 120 sec

t1 specifically

[dreamy blade]

no tricks, youre just underleveled, enemies are lv110 there iirc?

[normal cedar]

no they are lv 90

[dreamy blade]

probably a gear issue then

[normal cedar]

tbh santa fe moves around too much causing penn to miss barrage

can this be fixed by gear?

[dreamy blade]

not specifically for that but just in general if you arent doing enough dmg, since it's not like all your dmg is from penn's barrage

enty/uni/laffey should all be contributing too

[honest sequoia]

Is this an OK fleet for w15?

[normal cedar]

is it worth enhancing purple gear then? i used samheart's ectl to decide gear so I think the problem is its unenhanced

[dreamy blade]

unenhanced as in it's +0? then yeah that is definitely your issue

[normal cedar]

yes, 0, then ill get it to +6 and try

[dreamy blade]

it's ok to enhance transitional purple gear to +6

some can even go to +10 e.g. helldivers or 406mk6

[rose cosmos]

All and all is this kind of decent to continue into 15-3?

[dreamy blade]

the purple twin120 dd gun is also good to +10 if you have that (for laffey)

[normal cedar]

how is exp for ships calculated? im getting only 500+ exp per ship after s rank on lvl 90 enemies in event but universe in unison sp5 lvl 75 enemies s rank give me 600+ exp

is it not higher lvl enemies = more exp ?

[polar lion]

Xp gain in event is usually crappy. If u want xp, campaign W12 is your best friend

[atomic abyss]

Map dependent basically

Not enemy level dependent

Campaign is best for exp

[normal cedar]

i see, thx

[polar lion]

Try give it a run

[celest tartan]

advice on getting a submarines affection from 90 to 100?

[atomic abyss]

Use them in battle
There's no simple way really

[sleek flower]

this event's good for that

[atomic abyss]

They are best raised during events like these tho

[celest tartan]

😔 ok thanks

[zenith heron]

Just for curiosity

what is the best loadout for Mob Rumey? (Any content at least like campaign farming or OPSI?)

[dreamy blade]

good ol flapjack wyvern

and the UR twin76 aa gun

[zenith heron]

should a stagg suffice?

[frank pulsar]

fleet 1 might not have enough aa but you can try

[rose cosmos]

I don't have Jeanne and aurora

Who should I replace with

[carmine heath]

If you dont have a la9 what are you meant to put on kears?

[atomic abyss]

HVAR

[sinful escarp]

for hornet meta which is better to use bf109 or hvar?

[atomic abyss]

HVAR is not as strong against med
So BF

[sinful escarp]

ahhh, i see thanks

[honest sequoia]

Any w15 experience here can check if this is an OK fleet? for w15-1/2/3/4

[honest sequoia]

ignore elite manjuu cuz misclick

[undone plover]

Percy is worse than unicorn
I think your mob will struggle
Hamman is prone to exploding due to her low hp but if u dont have sth better then u can use her
Cheshire might not survive

And sirius in boss fleet is dead weight use sth else
More AA more tanky and more dps

[honest sequoia]

idk if i should musashi or zwei for mobbing

[undone plover]

Both work
Mob is harder so sushi better in mob tbh

[frank pulsar]

if you reset enough youll prob clear
this looks extremely inconsistent to me
musashi should mob over zwei and uni over percy are the biggest issues i see

[honest sequoia]

yea i have no choice but to build her cuz im unlucky with this month medal shop

[frank pulsar]

baguette guns are terrible btw, use twin 100, twin 135 or the twin 130

[undone plover]

Shimanto in pr6 witch catchup is an easy choice to build

I would work on her if this doesnt clear

[frank pulsar]

shld replace sirius and ham2 asap as well, for tankier/higher aa options

[undone plover]

And level unicorn to 125

[frank pulsar]

aa radar on zwei isnt worth it as well

and adding on to what faerlein said, lv125 is very important for w15

and having two twin 90 and a roomba is better than you have two roombas and a twin 90

oh and sushi wants twin 410 not the triple

[undone plover]

If u have spare core data u can also grab a breguet torpedo bomber in core shop

[honest sequoia]

twin kai?

[undone plover]

It is basically a mini wyvern
Altho I recommend u try and craft 1-2 wyverns if u can

[honest sequoia]

currently i only have 2 twin 90

and i crafted 4 flapjack cuz thats the max i can craft

[undone plover]

Use roomba sextuple twin 90 then
Sextuple on highest AA
Might need more twin 90 tho if the AA is slow

[honest sequoia]

Alr got it

btw is there any replacement for volga
I have no aquila

[wheat ore]

is it possible to sell ships for oil? cuz i desperately need more oil

[atomic abyss]

Nope
They removed the feature a few years ago due to people exploiting it

Go touch some grass or play another game

[frank pulsar]

if you can make the twin 410 kai its better yea

[wheat ore]

so the only use for the grey ships is to use them to enhance other ships?

[atomic abyss]

I'm assuming you haven't unlocked operation siren yet

[honest sequoia]

yea i have it at +11

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[wheat ore]

not there yet

[honest sequoia]

^^

[frank pulsar]

could try klaudia or zuiho iirc

[honest sequoia]

i dont have both 💔

[polar lion]

Why not use Volga? She is good too

[honest sequoia]

is there alternative than her beside aquila(cuy i dont have aquila) for musashi mobbing fleet

[frank pulsar]

you have painleve? otherwise id rather just use another dps like indep or smth atp

[honest sequoia]

none 💔

or is volga my only option

[frank pulsar]

if you have volga just use her
shes the second best option

[polar lion]

Yea why do u want to replace her tho?

Sushi, Volga, Unikai is solid mobbing backline if u dun hav Aquila

[frank pulsar]

if you really dont wanna use volga for wtvr reason then use another dps, probs like indep, nakhi, fritz, etc

[honest sequoia]

cuz my volga is lv1 😭

if shes rly the 2nd best then ill just invest in her

[atomic abyss]

She is the second best

[undone plover]

good reason to also start working on shimanto

since your backline is not ready anyway just raise better vanguards as well

eldridge retro also great if u managed to grab her retro item

[frank pulsar]

my advice is dont cut corners when it comes to w15
just makes yr life unnecessarily difficult

[sinful escarp]

subs help a ton in there, gives your fleet that extra oomph. especially when your mob fleet is out of ammo

[forest palm]

free damage is free damage, but if you want to be stubborn about it you can still clear without which requires a little more effort

[fathom sable]

black and white shell or one of the shell and admiralty for Alsace?

[forest palm]

depends on which one fits your build

[sharp comet]

does the sub flagship determine the hunting range

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[rapid grail]

you can uh use smth like Raffaelo + Unikai for the mob fleet core and use a great CV like Fritz Rumey for the remaining backline slot

[dreamy blade]

suchi's w15 raff fleet uses raff+uni+zuihou

[rapid grail]

these were fleets i made for someone else over at ECTL (link: #758353650820186172 message) together with like 2 paragraphs worth of notes for explaining my choices and clearing the stages

[dreamy blade]

agir in w15

[rapid grail]

but uh you can always hit us up with what you have and i/we can piece fleets that can/will work for you if your goal is to clear w15

[frank pulsar]

agir is fine for w15, just needs torp bulge

[dreamy blade]

im assuming that person just didnt have guam/laffii

[keen sable]

There are good ships and bad ships always. Corollary, there are plenty of bad ships in the game that aren't common and several meta ships that are common.

[dreamy blade]

where are the meta gray ships

[rapid grail]

Is there a guide/recommendations for world 15 that takes into account more recent ships? I can pretty much make whatever fleet I need and equip it, I'm just not the best at fleet building and most guides I find seem to be from when W15 launched. Thank you in advance.
word-for-word

honestly i think people should try out ideas, ships and/or fleets, not just parroting stuff you see throwing around here and in other servers
i did some 15-2 clears to bring it down to safe (for a pretty ehh reason), as such i can vouch for these choices made

[frank pulsar]

bringing stuff down to safe makes the tests invalid since you now have dmg reduction
also, 15-2 is much easier than 15-3 and 15-4

but yes i agree people should explore their options

[keen sable]

Something would have to drastically change in the game to make healers not meta

[eager mulch]

[dreamy blade]

im just not really sure what the point is in using agir/other tanks if you have access to guam/laffii

[sinful escarp]

all future campaign maps will have ships that have the skill to switch healing into damage like in opsi

[frank pulsar]

theyre missing a lot of ships so recommending more accessible options is probably their aim/intention here

[dreamy blade]

also arent they more recent ships than agir too

[rapid grail]

not all players have the options, especially when considering time-limited URs that rerun in like, 2 years
not everyone has the patience to wait that long

just an effort that showcase that it can be done with such ships in perma content

[frank pulsar]

yes, but they arent permanently available options like agir

[dreamy blade]

yes im probably missing a bunch of context since i cant read all their notes so something like that

[dreamy blade]

which is why i said this in the first place

[woeful smelt]

i just reached 400 for ur exchange, only ulrich and kron left. Should i exchange now or wait for next ship to be added (and if so, when and what is the next ur ship added to exchange pool)?

[dreamy blade]

vanguard is next

[rapid grail]

1. ulrich or kron? up to u. if the other perma ur botes aren't MLB, then now is a good time to take their copy to get them closer to MLB. if you are done with this, then cover this with what you are lacking and/or want to use:
   UvH has a kit that's good against light armor bossing and mobbing content; while
   Kronshtadt offers good tankiness, one of the more consistent CBs in terms of damage dealt and a pretty good crossfleet that helps your opsi bb bossing fleet
2. Look at #1. Otherwise, nah, use it ASAP 😆 and retire; you kinda want the specialized cores from retiring for more purins unless** if your UR ship MLB situation is figured out
3. Vanguard. i won't say further because personally, nj event archive left a bad taste in my mouth that still lingers to this day

[dreamy blade]

yeah it's a bit of a waste to not claim since you cant build the next pity until you do

[real laurel]

Do support barrages/airstrikes/whatever work like normal in project siren?

[dreamy blade]

crossfleets? yes

[real laurel]

yeah that

[dreamy blade]

the ones that are kindof annoying are just the "for the X first battles another fleet..."

[rapid grail]

yes, some barrage skills have like extra paragraphs for effects that apply in opsi

[real laurel]

Like I'm not a huge project siren enjoyer, so I've been thinking of just filling fleet 3 and 4 with crossfleet abilities

[rapid grail]

that doesn't really matter much anyways since you can basically beat up any opsi boss within these X battles that these crossfleets say

the concerns are during mobbing contents, which should be put into consideration when fleetbuilding for farming or clear strongholds or w/e

[wind hazel]

who's the best 3rd slot for kearsarge anti light, aside helena? z52 and aurora occupying 1st and 2nd.

[rapid grail]

hmm, before i can comment on this, can i look at your current opsi fleets? will influence what i say to you

[real laurel]

[dreamy blade]

that was mostly with mobbing/strongholds in mind yes

[real laurel]

I use these two, the first for general strategic-search and if for some god forsaken reason it fails I use the second one

[rapid grail]

hmm, sounds like you may need help after all. opsi is 4 fleets, at that point you can beat everyone in opsi with the appropriate gearing

[real laurel]

fleet 3-4 are currently filled with pure memes, such as one ark royal and three dds

[sharp comet]

is there anything i can improve on this boss fleet for 15-4 auto? it can do 2 boss nodes but then ends up dying with like 20x hp left on the third boss

[real laurel]

what kind of fleets would you suggest? BB's, CV/CVL, and what else? I haven't looked much into project siren but I do know that the bosses have different weaknesses

[dreamy blade]

typically it's mob/anti-heavy (ijn cv)/anti med+light (bb fleet)/crossfleet

[wind hazel]

have a dps instead of brest

something like guam sandy jda

[sharp comet]

i tried plymouth but then i get rolled even harder

[real laurel]

ty sir

[sharp comet]

tried sandy too but that wasnt that much of a help aswell

[rapid grail]

boss fleet for 1st node, mob fleet for 2nd node, boss fleet for 3rd boss node

[wind hazel]

[rapid grail]

wdym 2 boss nodes and dying on the 3rd node

[sharp comet]

i wanna just auto with clearing mode

i do not wanna do anything manual

[rapid grail]

ohi see then... too bad auto don't got braincells so players are the ones that have to adapt

[wind hazel]

what's dying

[sharp comet]

frontline

[turbid marsh]

laffey2 then

[sharp comet]

my mob has laff2, eld and shimanto

[wind hazel]

got any UR CV?

[sharp comet]

i have every ship

[turbid marsh]

then swap laf2 with z52, put laf2 and sandy in boss?

[rapid grail]

iirc i had alsace yk2n enty (enty is desync so she won't be near to yk2n) brest sandy anchorage
used this for 15-4 farm until i got houston II
biszwei, soyuz work in place of alsace

[wind hazel]

fritz instead of indep, guam sandy z52

[rapid grail]

that was around a month or two after alsace release

[sharp comet]

is fritz that much better? i use fritz in support cv, i read that she has the highest damage out of all cv

[wind hazel]

you can use hwah jah nakh and implac on support

[sharp comet]

okay, i was already using hwah and nakh with her

[turbid marsh]

or if your nakh/implac is in meta, use chenhai indom hwah is completely fine too XD

[rapid grail]

yeah, ship like her is a waste on support cv. use implac to replace her slot on support cv fleet

[unborn owl]

does santa fe really good?

[timid beacon]

she's very rng

she fires the (visually) same type of flare you get as a passive in w14, but only once guaranteed. but after that, it's hopes and prayers to get it again

could be a difference-maker in a prolonged boss fight, like Hornet META now. if she procs

she's also made to pair with Franklin, reducing Franklin's burn damage

[sharp comet]

alright i managed to full auto it with this, thanks :)

[normal cedar]

how long does it generally take to get your first ship to lvl 125?
also how long to get to commander lvl 90?

[undone plover]

hard to say
maybe ~1 month for level 125
bit later for commander 90 I would say
but I dont really recall exactly

[normal cedar]

I see, and how long does it take for a player who has cleared all of main story(world 15+) to get a ship to 125? (assuming they have average number of lecture hall exp packs of what are expected at their level)?

[tropic tusk]

techly u can already level a ship really fast when u reach w12-4

since all it require is good gear on all ships or decent level ship ( roughly 70-90 level to start with )+ unicorn

[sharp comet]

@wind hazel would this be able to 3 star 15-4 as a pure mob fleet if i keep the boss fleet intact that i used before and just 3x the boss fleet with it? i don't wanna waste oil

[stark quiver]

shimanto in middle
but sure if its on safe

[wind hazel]

^

[sharp comet]

ok thanks

[wind hazel]

i'd probably move aquila over when it's on safe

and maybe use raff

[sharp comet]

i looked over cn vids testing raff in 15-4 and they're all shitting on her and sayin bis2 does everything better lol

[stark quiver]

bis doesnt have shield

[sharp comet]

what would you put in the boss fleet for aquila then?

[stark quiver]

percy or volga, or no healer at all

[sharp comet]

so this for boss then

[stark quiver]

if youre running aquila in mob then put sash in mob as well

[sharp comet]

why?

[stark quiver]

sash and aql is a good pair

[sharp comet]

which bb do i use in boss then? i tried bis2 and she was kinda mid

[undone plover]

musashi takes focused dmg (she absorbs dmg from other backliners)
aquila has focused shielding and focused healing for her
it is a very cracked combo

[undone plover]

alsace/soyuz is best I think
altho bisko should be just fine as well for boss

[sharp comet]

musashi never really got low when i was doing 3x bosses with her

[wind hazel]

if you're using raff mob it's fine, put musashi boss

[undone plover]

yeah tbh that might be best

[sharp comet]

so i keep aquila in boss then

[wind hazel]

or sushi mob, alsace boss, that works too. i tried that with z52 fritz, they work as well

[sharp comet]

and volga in mob

[wind hazel]

no i prefer aquila mob if you're 3*ing

the ooa will hurt

[stark quiver]

aoa

[wind hazel]

AoA

[normal cedar]

is it bad to pick a research outside of your focus number? I have focus 5 and anchorage set now but I lack resources so I just go with whatever needs least/ no resources

[sharp comet]

i'll try this then 🔍

[wind hazel]

depends on what's available and what you're trying to get

[jaunty vault]

bad research is better than no research

[normal cedar]

I've no clue tbh.. I just set it as suggested here and make sure to keep the queue filled at all times

[wind hazel]

just set a goal. maybe you want to develop plymouth, so pick plymouth face researches whenever you can. if there isn't one, pick Q riggings, or Brest

if there isn't anything good, like 2 cubes, 2 Cs and one random PR6 face, then take the PR6 lol

if that was what you mean originally

[forest palm]

[desert trellis]

how do i unlock this

[zenith pebble]

Clear the remaining red areas surrounding it

[forest palm]

if you did chapter 5 you have to explore the surrounding tiles

[desert trellis]

ight thx

[zenith pebble]

Seems like you have 3 left, good luck soldier

[forest palm]

[zenith pebble]

Tf is that

[forest palm]

story

[zenith pebble]

I just use my oil thing in shop to clear everything lmao

Story? Skipped

[forest palm]

understand you need to complete chapter 5 to access the nexus

after you've done this on monthly resets you only need to clear the surrounding tiles to access the nexus

[weary gust]

That doesn't clear the story progress.

[zenith pebble]

Buy the oil thing for 5k oil, makes things do much easier

[forest palm]

it doesn't matter

[zenith pebble]

Really? I never see it

Does story reset every month?

[weary gust]

No

[timid beacon]

the zone does, not the story progress

[zenith pebble]

Oh

[zenith pebble]

Come back

[rain vine]

the story for getting to arbiter is just multiple boss fights

[timid beacon]

so what you're buying is the free zone clears, not the story progression to get to those end fights

[forest palm]

to think I literally explained this already

[zenith pebble]

Got it, i probably cleared it a long time ago without remembering

[calm ledge]

How many 12-4 runs would it take for the second DR research missions for 2.4m xp if using 3 eligible ships

[weary gust]

Depends on a lot of factors such as is it vanguard or mainfleet are you only doing above 120 morale or going below who is getting mvp ...
A large number of runs. There's not much point in calculating the exact number.

[calm ledge]

ah ok

[forest palm]

mm...12-4 is what...6 fights?

[undone plover]

it is like ~20-25k xp per run
more or less depending on if boss fleet also has 3 elligible ships or if mob also fights boss
also more if vanguard manages to mvp

2.4m/25k= ~100 runs