gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

why do you need to level ships you wont use?

[tawdry halo]

Alright... I know I'm not yet close to ask this question but is Saint Louis good

[atomic abyss]

level 120 is a VERY long way from level 70

[atomic abyss]

yes with her augment

[odd flare]

the nun i will for sure use, Formi is waifu so i will for sure use, and Royal Oak is not a bad ship to use.

[tawdry halo]

You scared me 😭

[atomic abyss]

then do this

[worldly pewter]

tech for pr5 but that is also a long time
out of these u want to have roon izumo mostly

[atomic abyss]

event is ongoing, so grind them there instead
D3 can probably take 2 backliners that are underlevelled

[tawdry halo]

is Monarch a good BB addition

[atomic abyss]

izumo better

[worldly pewter]

izumo is better

[odd flare]

thats literally all i needed thank u for helping.

[tawdry halo]

lemme just search up for Izumo

[atomic abyss]

she's right there, 2nd from right

[tawdry halo]

Goofy

[worldly pewter]

also stop the catchup for pr1
they are used for protocore

[fast frigate]

do i have to earn 3 stars in event stages to go to SP/EX stage

[odd flare]

did not needed the extra interrogation questions on why im doing what.

[little plinth]

is a steel starting with flame's aggression, rld, and trp good? don't have chief of staff or alpha wolf but I can try rolling for them

[novel solstice]

Nope, just clear D3

[tame jungle]

surprisingly, advice can change depending on what you do in this game

[worldly pewter]

doesn't matter

[tame jungle]

the questions are used to figure out what advice to give

[tawdry halo]

What do you mean?

[little plinth]

oh really? I'm at the point where I'm trying to minmax cats

[atomic abyss]

no

[tawdry halo]

I dont understand much about the dockyard stuff since I have never been that invested

[worldly pewter]

seeing that u had 100 prints for monarch i assumed that u did a catchup for her

[tawdry halo]

uh, yea?

[worldly pewter]

these catchup mechanic
mainly from pr1-3 are used to get protocore and not to actually dev the ships

[tawdry halo]

oh god

[worldly pewter]

don't worry i too messed up with pr1 and fdg and still had enough

[tawdry halo]

so what do I do now pls guide me

[worldly pewter]

if u want to use the catchup start from anchorage agir and haku

[tame jungle]

please explain properly
ships from old pr seasons can be enhanced with coins instead of blueprints
you can get a ship to dev30 then use catchup to get more blueprints of that ship
then convert those to protocore via shop

[tawdry halo]

Like this?

[worldly pewter]

if u want to do it then go ahead
sub cats are the least important and will maybe see potential in late campaign stages like w16

[tawdry halo]

May I have some advise about my gears, shit feels like Blue Archive

I've put half of my purple gears in all uses

[atomic abyss]

purple twin 410 goes to your nelson

the f4u corsair goes to your unicorn or enterprise

[tawdry halo]

I guess nvm?...

[tame jungle]

yes

[atomic abyss]

the left gun is one of the worst guns in the game

[tame jungle]

quad 356 is doodoo

[atomic abyss]

so take the gun from rodney and give it to nelson

f4u corsair for perseus for now

[tawdry halo]

I'm really curious of which one

[tame jungle]

you can do either

406 is a bit better though

[atomic abyss]

both are very good, and are the best guns for new players
right is better

this for portland

[atomic abyss]

yes switch

does san diego have her unique augment, and is it level 10?

[tawdry halo]

nope

[atomic abyss]

can you afford it?

[tawdry halo]

Porty and Sandy

[atomic abyss]

you cant afford it, need 21k

these would be better on portland

z23 would want the toolbox more if she doesnt have any

drop the hedeghog

[tawdry halo]

what about secondary gun mount

and maybe AA

[trim path]

whats arbiter armor this month?

ty

[atomic abyss]

for now this
if sandy had her augment, we would give her gun to portland instead

wait, what does z23 have though

[atomic abyss]

give z23 the aux gear portland has

[tawdry halo]

it doesnt fit

[tame jungle]

the ones in the slot on the left

[atomic abyss]

the toolbox does

[tame jungle]

you will want toolbox on z23

[tawdry halo]

2 toolboxes?

[atomic abyss]

one purple one blue based on what you have

port needs evasion not HP

no one should be using anti sub gear with asw stat

[tawdry halo]

I have 3 toolboxes

[atomic abyss]

3 purple?

[tawdry halo]

ye

[atomic abyss]

do you have either of this for portland?

[tawdry halo]

done

[atomic abyss]

ok then z23 gets 2 purple toolboxes
sandy gets 1 purple toolbox

[tawdry halo]

done

then what for the other aux of Sandy

[atomic abyss]

the torp bulge

[tawdry halo]

done

[timid oar]

Is raff gun on par with 406 mk7?

[tame jungle]

it blows it out of the water in medium

[sweet delta]

it gets blown out of the water in light

[atomic abyss]

no as they shine in completely different areas
mk7 is best for light, and ok for med/heavy
raff gun is best for med, and horrible everywhere else

[storm olive]

Who is the sub flag between archer alba and flasher?

[sweet delta]

Alba or flasher , doesn't matter

[tame jungle]

raff gun is 100/160/50 armor mods so i wouldn't say it's horrible vs light, but that will not change the use case

[sweet delta]

The use case is mk7 for light, raff gun for medium, 457 for mob, and various AP guns for medium/heavy

[timid oar]

[sweet delta]

Still waiting

Maybe double or triple scan Helena could help

[fast frigate]

how do i get 100% on my first run cuz sometmes i get 50%

[shell willow]

some maps simply require more than one clears

[atomic abyss]

for most campaign maps and older event maps
you just flat out need multiple clears

[soft raft]

is there any word on what format this evet will be?

[atomic abyss]

well it is only 3 ships so, probably not a major event

[soft raft]

yeah ik that
Mainly asking for my rerun list since there's SP, Raid, and "Frostfall format" SP+Raid outside of major event

[eager mulch]

just wait

[crisp geode]

Once i unlock the enhancement phase of a PR ship, can i start the development of another one?

Thank you, stranger with the yes emote

[timid beacon]

Given it's a 2 week thing, should have some things to do. Maybe a minigame, daily login stuff, short event map

[soft raft]

Thats.... not what I was asking for but ok

[timid beacon]

Ah, sry. Best info we have right now until they announce more

[rocky tinsel]

Where's the best place to read about exactly how the stats work? I am especially curious about RLD

[forest palm]

wiki

[rocky tinsel]

Is this the best page? There's not a stats page. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[forest palm]

there's a crude ingame explination as well

[sleek spade]

hey guys does anyone have that doc from that Shisigummy or sth guy who made a tier list on the best girls tier list for world 15?

[forest palm]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[forest palm]

wait it's probably tier list

[sleek spade]

Hmm I remember he sent me a google doc w evaluations and such

I’ll take a look ty!

[turbid marsh]

you meant the one in the pin

[forest palm]

no, the one Kotori is looking for is in the tier list command

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[atomic abyss]

link 2

[turbid marsh]

ohhhh

[sleek spade]

Nice ty!

[rocky tinsel]

What does "Fleet lock" do in iren?

Sorry:Operation Siren?

[eager mulch]

doesn’t show the pre battle fleet screen before every battle

the one where you can move ships around

[forest palm]

skips the bullshit throws you right into battle

[rocky tinsel]

Cool

If you refit your guys in the dock does that translate to them if they're out on an operation siren operation?

[plain saffron]

Yes

[balmy wharf]

I know meta ships don’t take up dock space, but do PR/DR ships?

[plain saffron]

Unless it's ddg from vanguard to main or vice versa, then they'll be removed

[plain saffron]

They do for now yes

[balmy wharf]

That’s unfortunate, I wish I didn’t redeem half of the ones I have, my precious dock space is wasted on many of these useless ships

[eternal moth]

Not wasted, since you still get tech points and fleet tech from them

[balmy wharf]

Anyways, how long does it usually take before fate sim is released after a new ships series is released? Basically what I’m asking is long until I can fate sim Napoli and the green catgirl?

[eternal moth]

No idea, Agir still doesn't have hers.

[turbid patrol]

Who should i retrofit first

[eternal moth]

Uni > Portland > Laffey

[jaunty vault]

rainbow girl fate sims are upto developers' whims

[turbid patrol]

Alr ty

[eternal moth]

And then Nelson after Laffey. Great team BTW

[balmy wharf]

Really? I thought the full series got a fate sim simultaneously

[thick plume]

Is Skyraider only good for light armor??
Or is it also useful against med and heavy?

[eternal moth]

Generally all the PRs will get a fate sim at the same time, but DRs are whenever the devs feel the need for them

[rocky tinsel]

Wish there was a way to turn off the cut away back to your battleships when they fire. When you have 20s cooldown and two of them, it takes more time than the battle

Is there a guide anywhere on how to sync to helena's debuff? I have 30 second guns, not sure where I go from here

[atomic abyss]

there isnt, because good maxed out BB guns on level 120 ships are mostly 20s

[thick plume]

I guess either upgrade the guns or choose guns with 2/3 barrels in the image

[rocky tinsel]

Ah, gotcha.

[worldly pewter]

BBs are the easiest to sync with helena
no radars no radar
radars sg radar

[rocky tinsel]

What does SG radar actually do to the time? I have the item, but it doesn't mention anything about changing the fire time on it

[thick plume]

Helena retrofit skill changes "Radar scan" to Radar scan +"

[worldly pewter]

u need to read helena's skill

[rocky tinsel]

Ah kk, that's what's missing. She's not retrofit yet for me

[vocal sand]

im 80 away from implacaple dupe, should i pull?

[atomic abyss]

no

[nocturne glade]

For yat sen's 2 CL guns, is twin 150 or triple 155 better?

[atomic abyss]

the og triple 155? if the og, then twin 150 is far better

[worldly pewter]

ply and felix 155 kai is poverty

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty! Don't have any kais to spare unfortunately

[atomic abyss]

og 155 sucks in comparison to the good or even decent guns

it's basically a stat stick

[sweet delta]

Hornet meta showdown fleets v2.2 (fixed picture)

1. For the richest with high tech and oaths and gear. Really needs the tech/gear/oaths damage to be better than Helena. 4 La9 is required, if you have 3, then Helena would have better win rate.
   a. Raff gun with 41 CV, 0 BB, 0 CA RLD. ~98%+ win rate with max everything.
   b. 460mm with 4 CV, 17 BB, 4 CA RLD. ~98%+ win rate with max everything. Obv does not work with Helena.
2. See v2.0 for the rest.
   Also if you don't have soyuz nakhi then use other rainbow CVs or BBs with Helena and glhf

[atomic abyss]

how does triple BB fair to someone with no LAs, just BF?

[jaunty vault]

v2.21 be like

[thick plume]

@worldly pewter you're kinda confusing me with the reacts

[sweet delta]

Idk what triple BB does but according to CN it's 60% win rate without Helena and with Max everything

[worldly pewter]

u said med and heavy
i said left arrow to the second line

[atomic abyss]

#trophy-room for such posts.

[eternal moth]

We have another UR coming in around 2 months, it's best to save

There's no need to pull for dupes

[vocal sand]

5 star ship can still level to 120 right

[atomic abyss]

for non metas/ non URs
they need to be max limit broken to get to 120

[vocal sand]

ur can yea?

[atomic abyss]

UR ignore this rule yes

even at 3* they can go to 125
same for metas at 2*

[vocal sand]

ok

[glossy granite]

Welp looks like no Eagle UR event

[forest palm]

wouldn't write it off so easily

either way that's all speculative, which this channel doesn't do

[glossy granite]

Where do i find the cube estimate calculations again? I wanna see how much i could get by End of May

[forest palm]

168 guaranteed cubes per month, RNG factors and Cruise notwithstanding

[distant glen]

Heard it's around 200ish a month if you play the game.

[glossy granite]

Yes i play everyday and do all the daily stuff

I am just being cautious, and especially how much i really want Bis zwei after the new UR

[distant glen]

Then guesstimate 450-500 f2p

[forest palm]

you can totally walk into a UR event with 250 cubes and be fine, done it a few times on my alt

[stark quiver]

250~ cubes a month if you are an active player
Just be careful on where you spend your cubes

[glossy granite]

Tyty, even if its all just luck end of the day

[slender turtle]

Wtf is this gun and what is it used for?

[eager mulch]

its napoli gun

[forest palm]

no real reason to use it, afaik

[upbeat wagon]

When will bismarck zwei rerun be?

[atomic abyss]

i dont think it's outright bad... just no point

[atomic abyss]

at earliest, after the next new UR

so that could be jun, jul, aug

maybe even later if there's a good enough reason

[forest palm]

early july is gonna be PR8, aug is gonna be EN anniversary, so somewhere in the middle of those is plausible

[soft raft]

EN Anniv also highly likely wont be UR since JP Anniv is right there the month after

[glossy granite]

Hm how do i decide what to buy with Protocore? Def could need a UR gear lol

[upbeat wagon]

/ protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[stark quiver]

Just don’t spend 400 cubes pulling for Aquila in perma and you’ll be good

[glossy granite]

Yo i can get Tenrai i have enough, ty

[forest palm]

one of the better purchases, ya

[glossy granite]

Are you fucking kidding me, i can afford both but the shop didnt give 25 only 20 😭

[nocturne glade]

is there a place where I can see the most important fleet tech per ship type?

[polar raft]

Anything changed with taihou’s skin?

[glossy granite]

I should have bought those prints earlier now i gotta wait 7 days for the Iris gun🤦‍♂️

[forest palm]

not really it's just
RLD → Hit → AVI/FP (main fleet)
Cruiser EVA → FP (vanguard)
there are some minor tech stats for vanguard such as RLD, Hit, and TPR but the priority is much lower

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty!

[forest palm]

if you're looking for a tracker there's this
https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

[glossy granite]

Whats the purpose of a fleet tracker lol

[forest palm]

almost as if it's self explanatory

[eternal moth]

So you can determine which ships to level to 120 next

[glossy granite]

How many Super heavy and Type 1 AP shells should you buy?

[eternal moth]

At least 3

[glossy granite]

I am so cheap and oblivious that i only bought 1 pair 🤦‍♂️ i should have known better tysm

[glossy granite]

Tenrai on Yorktown II or Implacable? Or does it not matter

[jaunty vault]

if there's no timing problem then york2

[forest palm]

you never use a DB on Imp

[mild heath]

I been noticing i was getting hidden letter while pressing the catpaws in various places, how many of these are there?

[jaunty vault]

/wiki akashi quest

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[jaunty vault]

@mild heath

11

[mild heath]

thanks

[glossy granite]

Does the banner disappear tomorrow or on 27th?

[tame jungle]

36h left

[atomic abyss]

as i like to say

events always end on thursday's reset

[glossy granite]

Yea you said that i remember now

[atomic abyss]

the only exceptions were like, maybe 1 or 2 collabs

[glossy granite]

Sorry for having dementia

[sharp pine]

How do I tell how quickly my carriers will be ready to launch their planes in game? The fleet builder github tool says my Implacable should be the last one to be ready. But in game she's first and ends up noticeably ahead of the other two later in the Meta fight.

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ use an accurate reload calculator and fleetbuilder like this one

that also has the newest ships

[sweet delta]

But I like this UI, how do I get the newest ships on it?

[cobalt rapids]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/ theres an updated version of that one here

but much like the former rld skills ( like implacable rld% skill when using a db in 2nd slot ) aren't taken into consideration

[slow fox]

Renhecc if I made a table of rld% buffs, would it be beneficial to you

[slender turtle]

Would you want implac to be last in that trio of main fleet anyways? Always figured you want her first

[atomic abyss]

middle ideally

[cobalt rapids]

if we didnt had lars but its more feature rich for a calc anyway

[glossy granite]

Would San diego fit a spot 🤔

[slender turtle]

Ty for the answer instead of emote❤️

[atomic abyss]

san diego is frontline...

[glossy granite]

I used the image as reference

[keen sable]

A spot in what? Is a rainbow better than a sr dd and a wanna be sr dd? Why yes it is.

[glossy granite]

Nevermind, shouldnt have said anything.

[keen sable]

Is sandy ehp even better than portland? ||#summon-bot||

[slow fox]

Yeah

[atomic abyss]

very slightly iirc

the fact is, still higher tho

[keen sable]

Three junky low rarity ships that can be replaced minimum then

[glossy granite]

How do i deal with this, i am not very satisfied with my vanguards but i am so oblivious that i cant think myself and use my brain to improve myself i am a literally a liability lmao

[keen sable]

You could start with a tierlist. Portland and laffey are amazingly low on tierlists

[sweet delta]

If Portland is amazingly low, then what is eugen

[keen sable]

T4 wasn't it. Or D. Take your pick.

[glossy granite]

Tierlist dont feel very viable at all on this game, and if they are you have to take into account ''Okay, this ship is this good at CM, this one is this insane as a Mobber world 14 but horrific timing, and this ship is only good for W15 boss'

Or some random stuff like that

I was just making up examples

[cobalt rapids]

luckily one rates them by content for you

so you dont feel cheated

[glossy granite]

In that case yea

[sweet delta]

I think that's what he was referring to

[cobalt rapids]

i thought he meant the t0/t1 traps that actually are only good in CM or smth like that

[glossy granite]

Heres the thing man, i am oblivious

Single digit iQ

[worldly pewter]

in my extended knowledge in gacha games
all tier lists aren't 100% accurate and most of the time it is content based
that is why there are variances

[cobalt rapids]

in my limited knowledge tierlists is also where u start when u have no idea about the game unless ure ready to make a deep dive into the game's roster and start rating and looking for ships urself

[worldly pewter]

yeah the best it can do is answer
is this good

[glossy granite]

Hows even the slaimuda tier list one, it looks decent but at the same time feels like they never move up or down ships and idk why Perseus is in that top top top tier

[sweet delta]

Perseus is about as good as unicorn through chapter 13, assuming both are maxed

[white agate]

well, those updating it are only 2 persons so they take sometime to update

[cobalt rapids]

its ok
it gives a general idea of what ships are good but leaves it up to the user to differentiate by content
some ships are arbitrary lower or higher even if their use is restricted outside of campaign
and percy is ofc there to trap new players

[glossy granite]

Better than Aquila?

[sweet delta]

But when you have maxed ships then maybe you should be at chapter 14+

Slaimuda has a discord server where you can question them

[hollow gust]

[glossy granite]

For an example this is their Carrier tops

[sweet delta]

Whether you can question them without being called various insults and slurs is another point

[glossy granite]

Im used to that by now, being offensive dosent exist with me lmao

[turbid marsh]

elaborate... what?!?!

[sweet delta]

Their maintainers/evaluators have left or are banned from this channel so this is not the place to ask them

[forest palm]

ECTL has a lot of conceited people what is there to elaborate

[turbid marsh]

they are the same people?

[worldly pewter]

yeah putting percy above frtiz mamagi nano aquila and haku is kinda dumb

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think this needs to be a discussion here

[forest palm]

they can't even be bothered to label their guide outdated because they apparently don't have 5 minutes

[soft raft]

Rumey, Nano, Amagai CV, and Haku dont even do the same main functionality as Perseus Tho there has been a active contention to downtier Perseus fwiw due to W15

And if you gave the Tiering guidelines a read, TEX is mainly for ships that are clearly a cut above the rest of the hulltype in terms of damage or utility, of which neither Nano, Amagi CV, Rumey, and Haku do not

[glossy granite]

Also the spreadsheet tier list is also good it is only for end game right?

[sweet delta]

I believe it has "end game" in its name yes

[white agate]

the spreadsheet tierlist has w14-15 mob boss and others

[glossy granite]

Yea thats why i wondered, idk if its redundant but i kinda wish theres like a ''Campaign until w14'' tier list

[cobalt rapids]

thats ectl

[glossy granite]

Its prob redundant on that end game one

[soft raft]

yeah
ECTL is mainly W1-13

iirc they didnt even add 155 Kai as a BB Aux weapon until like mid-2024

[cobalt rapids]

not really but then again early game is short lived in azurlane

[glossy granite]

ectl?

[cobalt rapids]

slaimuda

[glossy granite]

Ohhhhhhhh, really?

Nah man i really need to step up

Everyday i shame myself here fr

[worldly pewter]

u are here to learn

[cobalt rapids]

not rly

[sweet delta]

As long as you don't get stuck on 11-3 for several months

[glossy granite]

Last time i got cooked on 11-3 💀 but now i have a much better fleet compared to before

Much better main would suit better actually

[worldly pewter]

everything but 11-3

[glossy granite]

What satanic rituals do they have on 11-3 man

[worldly pewter]

i never heard of someone getting stuck in 11-3

[cobalt rapids]

you must be new here

[glossy granite]

Yes and no

I am as new like few months but look at my join date on this server

[last zenith]

guys. my friend is asking me whats the best fleet for midgame

[atomic abyss]

depends on the definition of mid game

[last zenith]

but when i looked at his fleet, he has jack shi

[cobalt rapids]

what chapter of the game is ur friend at

[atomic abyss]

midgame for us is like, w12

[last zenith]

hes at 3 bro

[cobalt rapids]

[atomic abyss]

that's very early game

so this would be a good resource

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[honest stirrup]

Are there any good Torp-focused CAs?

[soft raft]

Unzen and Ibuki

[honest stirrup]

thanks

[forest palm]

Saltybelfast is the bar to me

[last zenith]

my thoughts exactly

Ibuki is a ca???? i was for sure she was...

[atomic abyss]

has been since year 1

[steady rain]

does revelations of dust event end on the upcoming daily reset?

[cobalt rapids]

35h

[atomic abyss]

no, the next one

[steady rain]

👍

[last zenith]

gulp

[atomic abyss]

well, ibuki with her augment is what's good

[last zenith]

yes and all her skins

[lavish scroll]

I don't understand. Why no more two if i use aa roomba?

[eternal moth]

They're really slow

[atomic abyss]

kinda outdated logic at this point, but the reason is yes, slow

[cobalt rapids]

u can ignore that part
using good aa guns works till w15 or some othe specific content in which case u should ask for that specific

[sweet delta]

I heard triple Roomba is good for w14

[cobalt rapids]

u have good hearing

[jaunty vault]

I don't trust in rumours

[hushed sorrel]

yeah please dont spread rumors in gameplay-help. i dont know who you mean but yeah generelly not a good idea

[jaunty vault]

rino gets it

[honest stirrup]

Remade my Opsi fleet. Please tell me if I did something wrong (Potato is there as a placeholder)

[hollow gust]

It's pretty mid

[cobalt rapids]

the healers in boss fleets need to go
idk which one is the boss fleet

[honest stirrup]

2 and 3. Not sure what I wanted fleet 4 to be

[jaunty vault]

I'd replace anchorage and unzen

[slow fox]

I heard URudder May 2025

[hollow gust]

Using nano haku as mob fleet is just a waste

[honest stirrup]

Fleet 1 is my only mob

[jaunty vault]

I trust u so it must be true

[cobalt rapids]

alsace and musashi would benefit more from helena and buffing each other with soyuz

honestly its kinda abit over the place but if it works it works

[hollow gust]

What's Aquila doing in a boss fleet , and Plymouth in a pure cv

[honest stirrup]

also that wasn't very helpful

Not sure what Plymouth's main strength is

[hollow gust]

You should make a thread then, cause every single fleet is a mess

[molten solstice]

Lol level 76 agir in 11.3 and works almost well enough

[timid beacon]

Plymouth has a BB-support skill. she's a great all-rounder CL, but really shines with BB as a flag. so with all CV, you're missing on a good skill

[honest stirrup]

Is Musachi really optimal for Boss fleet shell damage though? I thought a big part of her kit is main fleet survivability and good barrage

[hollow gust]

Her barrage has one of the best single target elements ingame. Those thunders are individually aimed

[honest stirrup]

Yeah but does it count as shell dmg

[glossy granite]

Just thinking out loud, which research vanguard would be great to go for after Anchorage and Ägir?

[timid beacon]

don't have experience with Musashi, but for Alsace yeah her barrage is great for a boss fleet

[hollow gust]

Why does counting as a shell damage matter

[honest stirrup]

Because I usually one-shot the bosses that doesn't have specific requirements

[timid beacon]

Alsace also has the extra bonus of an emergency heal, in a longer boss fight. not something to rely on, but it's there

[timid beacon]

because some OpSi bosses have shell resistance

[hollow gust]

That's why you have CVs, arbiters debuff all firepower damage

[honest stirrup]

Survivability is the least of my priorities

[timid beacon]

or shell weakness

[viscid swift]

shelling means FP based damage

[viscid swift]

anyway, FDG is pretty much the worst of the UR BBs agains single target

Aquila is best used on mobs so she's wasted in a boss fleet not to mention fleet 3 has no slow or stop

you have 2 mob fleets which makes 0 sense since they do the same thing
you're also not using damage debuffers besides Helena, etc

[slow fox]

Why can't our carriers be like enemy carriers that have FP scaling damage?

[viscid swift]

I could go on

[mellow cape]

Is Napoli good to use pre dev 30?

[hollow gust]

She is bulky enough

[inland shoal]

Btw those weaknesses that pop up after you hit the boss don't actually work

[soft raft]

lmfao

[mellow cape]

I kinda wanna pop Napoli in my mobbing fleet for op si just to gain her levels finally

[timid beacon]

more thinking the minibosses

[honest stirrup]

Literally placebo smh

[honest stirrup]

oh I can just use fleet 1 for them

[hollow gust]

Mob fleets can kill anything but arbiters

[vale spindle]

thats fine

[mellow cape]

Tyty okay

[hollow gust]

Abyssals are far weaker then arbys

[slow fox]

People are still sleeping on BB Brest Mob Fleet

[vale spindle]

My opsi mob fleet is unicorn + 5 leveling ships

[honest stirrup]

I mean, I could use Brest. I have her dev 30 level 125

[timid beacon]

is fleet one your mobber?

[glossy granite]

So if you only have 2 UR BBs maxed and they are Raff and FdG, which one goes into the boss and mob fleet

[mellow cape]

This is where she is at rn

[timid beacon]

Brest will benefit from Alsace's faction bonus, so that's really nice

[glossy granite]

Despite both being mob ships

[worldly pewter]

someone who isn't stuck in 11-3 nice

[viscid swift]

for OpSi? both

[hollow gust]

For campaign , doesn't matter

[slow fox]

Workable, but I don't think the fellas in here would recommend you putting a Napoli (less than 25) into a fleet.

[molten solstice]

i cant understand how they get stuck there,like i still think you are just messing with me rn lmfao

[timid beacon]

yeah that's an option then. Drop Brest on fleet 1, and that lets you use Guam somewhere else

[rocky tinsel]

How do you get the second floor of the dorm? I think I've bought all the floor expansions

[molten solstice]

IRON BLOOD SUPREMACY

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way thank you very much

[soft raft]

you have to expand again after fully expanding the first floor

[hollow gust]

Better to swap around the entire frontline

[noble tulip]

Aquila too, what is she even doing in ijn fleet

[glossy granite]

I have yet to try out Siren, sadly i cant make 3 fleets

[honest stirrup]

Does Anchorage need to be in frontmost position to benefit the vanguard from her survivability?

[soft raft]

something something having a healer in boss fleet

[hollow gust]

No but why would you have more then one tank

[cobalt rapids]

@honest stirrup u should open a thread if u wanna get anywhere

[timid beacon]

yeah she's a top-tier tank

[worldly pewter]

it is the mystery that nobody will be able to solve sadly

[soft raft]

not really afaik (Cuz I have run her off-tank perfectly fine)
but as one of the best tanks in the game, that would be her most ideal position regardless

[slow fox]

My OpSi fleet has 10 tanks

[honest stirrup]

It's fine I think I got the general idea

[jaunty vault]

what do you define a tank as

[timid beacon]

you're out here doing ground warfare XD

[hollow gust]

[worldly pewter]

most likely anyone who can equip a +13 rudder

[slow fox]

I dunno actually. 130? 140?

[jaunty vault]

are there even 10 140 ships

[hollow gust]

General idea should be changing every single fleet

[worldly pewter]

where is ur bb fleet

[forest palm]

if you had a general idea you'd be reading skills

[slow fox]

Apparently not. Definitely 10+ 130 though

[viscid swift]

just

[hollow gust]

@timid beacon you can use Essex shut all you want , but every single fleet has glaring issues with random shops being in them

[cobalt rapids]

does mebot run vv with napoli

[timid beacon]

sure, but start talking about them instead of just saying "mid" and "change it"

[worldly pewter]

is it vv specifically or raff can work too ?

[slow fox]

Napoli is with Eldridge II and Agir in my 2nd BB fleet

[eternal moth]

Why three tanks?

[honest stirrup]

But why do you have to be so scornful about it

[viscid swift]

it's mebot

[slow fox]

Mob fleet without healing

[jaunty vault]

cause he's mebot

[hollow gust]

I suggested using a thread 30+ messages ago , cause it's actually required but no

[cobalt rapids]

welcome to gph

[viscid swift]

frankly I'd be suprised if he wasn't running every single ship with rudders

[glossy granite]

How much of a priority is Admiral nakhimov? Or do you need to have Soyuz

[viscid swift]

pretty high priority even without soyuz

[timid beacon]

@honest stirrup what's the main issue you're having with OpSi right now?

[hollow gust]

She is basically the best dps CV in the game , Soyuz helps but there are other ships that work with her

[eternal moth]

Nakh can be used without Soyuz, typically witih Tashkent

[cobalt rapids]

run both

[honest stirrup]

Time

Takes too long to clear for my liking

[cobalt rapids]

dont use battleships in mob fleet and use preloaders or fast strikers

[glossy granite]

Cuz i have the tech for her research lol but i dont even have something like Anchorage at the moment

[eternal moth]

What does, arbiters, mobbing, something else?

[worldly pewter]

i had a hunch that napoli with raff might be the best mobbing fleet for w16

[hollow gust]

Tashkent is a downgrade in all honestly from voroshilov. Less tanky and not enough dps to justify less utility

[cobalt rapids]

bruh w16 isnt even out

[timid beacon]

well, for bosses and minibosses, some preloaded BBs and CVLs never hurt, which you've already got a handful of

[honest stirrup]

Well I thought Musachi was a fast striker

[viscid swift]

not really

[eternal moth]

lolno

[cobalt rapids]

shes not, bbs also have slowdowns on salvo

[viscid swift]

but I wouldn't be too concerned with min maxing clear time

[honest stirrup]

why

[viscid swift]

because it doesn't really do anything

[soft raft]

lol no
she has like the 2nd lowest RLD stat out of all the UR BBs

[viscid swift]

OpSi just takes a bit to clear, can't really change that

[eternal moth]

Who do you run for mob Cheeky?

[viscid swift]

still, you have a month to do it though, should quite easy clear everything in that time

[noble tulip]

running musashi on mob fleet isn't the worse option if you want to use her crossfleet and can't make use of her in your BB fleet

[viscid swift]

Perseus, Akashi, Hornet META, Fei Yuen, Yuugure, Fu Po

[timid beacon]

if it's just time, try pairing some skills. like Yorktown with other Yorktowns/Essexes, to reduce CD. Independence is also a fast loader

[hollow gust]

You do not want to use Yorktown 2

It breaks up all your stagger and everything hits water

[worldly pewter]

using musasi for mob for the time being then swap her to boss later in the month is an option too

[timid beacon]

might need some timing adjustments, sure

[eternal moth]

I've been trying to decide whether to keep Musashi in mob or just drop her, as I don't really have another slot for her.

[hollow gust]

Musashi has a nice crossfleet

[slow fox]

Keep her. She's a good waifu.

[worldly pewter]

drop the best xfleet ?

[cobalt rapids]

shes not the best xfleet in opsi

[hollow gust]

Independence and NJ are CVs best friends

[cobalt rapids]

either way if u have that many xfleets that u consider dropping musashi does it even matter if ure not minmaxing at that point

[glossy granite]

I thought Hindenburg was much better lol

[timid beacon]

she's excellent, for the uses she's excellent for

[cobalt rapids]

triple S looks pretty good to me

[hollow gust]

Hindenburg has alot of problems , she is filthy expensive for one , and no utility

[eternal moth]

Right now I run double CV fleets, I'd have to turn one into a pure XFleet if I dropped Musashi

[worldly pewter]

how did u want her to be ?

[slow fox]

Hindenburg isn't SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS+5+5+5EXSS+4 though

[glossy granite]

I thought she was as this guy said

[viscid swift]

I don't think any ship is

[timid beacon]

most ships have their ideal use

[glossy granite]

Whats she excellent for

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure z52 is close

[noble tulip]

nakhimov should be close no ?

[timid beacon]

says right there on the chart, the things she's rated S for

[viscid swift]

whenever you need a pure damage vanguard against predominantly light and medium armor

[glossy granite]

Mb mb mb

[hollow gust]

Hinden is generally used when you only need raw dos, which is basically never these days

[viscid swift]

which is not often truth be told

[slow fox]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=992971658#gid=992971658

link btw

[turbid marsh]

would argue z52 for that except boss content that requires loads tankiness

[hollow gust]

She is finally useful this meta though

[cobalt rapids]

is she

[viscid swift]

I thought you were an Unzen shill for this one

[turbid marsh]

useable*

one of the better competitors

[worldly pewter]

what are the bosses that need load of tankiness ?

[hollow gust]

I am , but the thing is her dps is technically being bloated by all the AA

[eager mulch]

w15 boss

[turbid marsh]

some arbiter i guess

[cobalt rapids]

still better than hindens

[viscid swift]

is she?

[eager mulch]

trying to say no to amagi-chan boss

[glossy granite]

Z52 really is that cracked lol however i am told not to MLB her until way way later on

[slow fox]

Alsace very close

SSSSSAASS5554X2431XX

[viscid swift]

I remain unconvinced

[worldly pewter]

yeah i think that too
personally until now i don't remember any of my most tanky vanguards surviving the normal arbiter

[turbid marsh]

shes a frontline. backline UR mlb > frontline UR mlb in almost all scenarios for priority

[cobalt rapids]

also needing 2 +13 hinden guns is

[molten solstice]

is there any fast way to get exp boosters other than the library??

[timid beacon]

she really is a "just put me in, I got this!" kinda all-rounder

[turbid marsh]

i guess only napoli - agir + rainbow'

[slow fox]

Napoli Agir EldII mentioned

[glossy granite]

Yea because whenever i get the 4 UR bullins and i ask here which one to MLB, its as if she dosent exist lmao but yes backline more important

[hollow gust]

My hill is that Plymouth is the best vanguard ship this event . Extremely consistent damage and buffs Soyuz

[cobalt rapids]

ply is always ur hill

[timid beacon]

Plymouth being the best? that's barely a speedbump

[slow fox]

Napoli is the best vanguard ship. Extremely consistent not die and buffs herself.

[noble tulip]

you mean for meta ?

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

Your Hinden has skill issues

[worldly pewter]

why z52 is doing low damage

[noble tulip]

I'd argue z52 is the most important vanguard for it because of the overwhelming amount of planes

[slow fox]

I bet Napoli has more AAeHP than Z52

[noble tulip]

plymouth can be replaced

[little tree]

[turbid marsh]

oui. now if you have all URs but 0lb, z52 would beat some of the backlines in terms of priority, but yeah, you can always find replacement gold ships until UR bulins gets replenished for frontlines

[hollow gust]

Look at my backline , they nuke Hornet too fast for frontline to do damage

[worldly pewter]

look for a run where soyuz does 200k damage

[turbid marsh]

Even without ply Soyuz can dish out some good damage

wait defuq is that 17k on kazagumo

[cobalt rapids]

ply replaced by helena

[viscid swift]

I think you may have forgotten to put gear on her

[turbid marsh]

lemme go look lol

[hollow gust]

You are running Helena

My enty killed the boss with her

[slow fox]

#trophy-room

You guys are using squishy vanguards like scrubs

[turbid marsh]

i love my helena ❤️

[viscid swift]

with all offensive auxes too

they also don't die

[hollow gust]

Both ply and z52 can maintank and be perfectly fine

[buoyant mauve]

How's shimanto?

[hollow gust]

Very good when a lot of aa is needed

[cobalt rapids]

just from today

[noble tulip]

question is how much of that unzen damage comes from aa padding

[hollow gust]

I did the rough math , it's around 18k

[viscid swift]

a fair bit I'd imagine

[buoyant mauve]

Ngl idk which pry ship ima focus on, was leaning towards her or even that admiral Nakhimov ship

[hollow gust]

Finish per season

[cobalt rapids]

even if they are sidegrades u would still take unzen unless u have 2 +13 hinden guns lying around

[viscid swift]

Which I fortunately do

[noble tulip]

idk I did over 20 runs with unzen and 20 runs with hinden and the latter was always more consistent

[cobalt rapids]

whats ur setup

[hollow gust]

Heres the thing , for this meta shooting down the planes is far more important then vanguard dps

If you can maintain conceal, you will kill her

[cobalt rapids]

a big advantage of unzen is syncing to timed debuffs like z52 and soyuz

[viscid swift]

Not necessarily

[cobalt rapids]

i just give up on maintaining conceal
fritz is revealed 90% of my fights

[noble tulip]

4 la9 + raf, syncing unzen's quad to nak stun

[viscid swift]

I didn't really notice much of a difference with the 2 tbh

[hollow gust]

In this case hinden feels better because her aa guns aren't interfering with fleet aa

I suggest using a sextuple for z52

[cobalt rapids]

sexy are jsut bad

[noble tulip]

you need your vanguard aa setup to be fast it's mandatory both for vanguard survivability and to deal with the amount of planes

[cobalt rapids]

the plane leaks because of 2 reason in 99% of the cases

1. they fly outside ur aa range
2. ur aa is on cd and not shooting the planes while in range
   you can see how using a 28 range aa gun is detrimental

[viscid swift]

The issue is I could tell quite easily Unzen with an extra AA gun was helping to maintain conceal much better but Hindenburg feels a tad more consistent at killing

[hollow gust]

That's just not true , currently the fast planes can run out of aa range before the UR AA kills. You will only get one shot of aa almost every single time. Sextuple alpha guarantees the kill, UR aa doesn't

I haven't gotten revealed at all this week , so if you don't wanna believe me . Feel free to ignore

[cobalt rapids]

if they run out of range how exactly does sexys higher alpha help

sextuple would help if u had planes escaping with <100% hp

i never saw that happen to me

[hollow gust]

Fast planes run out before aa gets to hit a 2nd time. Due to RNG UR doesn't kill and leaves them with slight hp

[cobalt rapids]

ive neer seen planes with sligh hp

[noble tulip]

they always get one shot what are we saying exactly

[cobalt rapids]

and i have recorded some fights and watched most of them

[viscid swift]

The issue is pretty much always when you have multiple waves coming at you

[hollow gust]

I run 2 UR eagle and 1 Sextuple . Before swapping I was seeing partial HP ones , since swapping to sextuple for z52 I haven't gotten revealed

[cobalt rapids]

even in multi waves

[slow fox]

Would this be because Fleet Alpha AA is low (only 3 ships with AA guns, only 2 with reasonable guns)?

[cobalt rapids]

you can watch for urself, even with +10 roombas no plane leaked at <100% hp

[noble tulip]

best setup should be 2 ur french + 1 twin 76

[hollow gust]

[slow fox]

FRITZ HAS AA GUN ?!?

[cobalt rapids]

she does

[viscid swift]

Fritz runs an AA gun so make that 4

[hollow gust]

Yah, for bossing the new 15 hit gun is better then cl gun

[cobalt rapids]

this is definetly reasonable

depending on the guns

[hollow gust]

10 hit is debatable but 15 should inch ahead

[slow fox]

Probably why increasing alpha using Sexbofors worked

[cobalt rapids]

but u sack so much range for it
idk doesnt seem like a good idea to me

im also interested in the setup that doesnt have enough alpha considering i test 3 roomba 2 frog

[slow fox]

Just get better AA ships

AA chart mentioned

[cobalt rapids]

sandy isuzu guam got it

[viscid swift]

Can't really afford to

[hollow gust]

Range will average out , there is also the tech of running slower ships so they don't move as much

[jaunty vault]

AA chart when

[viscid swift]

Not like we're running fast vanguards to begin with

[cobalt rapids]

speed helps yea but i mean not like u can be rly picky about it considering the options

[cobalt rapids]

can you give me ur setup where u had plane leaks due to alpha dmg

[slow fox]

(just in case https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/edit)

[worldly pewter]

TBH i had very rare occasions where planes leave with black bar basically 1hp and others around 15% remaining hp iris 13 double frog and roomba 10

[hollow gust]

I ran 3 Eagle AA , unzen Plymouth z52

[cobalt rapids]

uhh

5 frog guns then ?

[hollow gust]

[cobalt rapids]

what aa did fritz soyuz unzen plymouth and z52 run

theres 5 in there u said 3

[hollow gust]

I had 5 eagle AAs

Only ply's was +13

[cobalt rapids]

why did u wutspite then
w.e, thanks ill try it out and see what happens

[worldly pewter]

he said that he was using a sexy so most likely 4 frogs

#gameplay-help message
he said that he swapped to sexy with 2 frogs on the vanguards

[cobalt rapids]

i asked for his aa setup before that

[hollow gust]

Eagle aa ain't frog

[worldly pewter]

but TBH the alpha damage issues are very minor to negligible against the range and rld in my experience
also the plane formation doesn't help at all
the triangle shape makes the vanguards hit the first foremost planes and leave the back

[cobalt rapids]

whats eagle aa

[hollow gust]

I typed UR eagle

The new aa gun is eagle

[cobalt rapids]

thats literally frog

[worldly pewter]

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

76 would've just been simpler

[tame jungle]

frog

[worldly pewter]

🐸

[eager mulch]

twin 127mm (cat) is going to be cute

[cobalt rapids]

but then u wouldnt have these moments

[hollow gust]

I thought u guys called the French one frogs cause frog eaters

[eager mulch]

52mm?

[hollow gust]

Also eagle looks more like cat

[forest palm]

57

[cobalt rapids]

you bagged your last uette

[eager mulch]

57mm?

[forest palm]

and this is a perfect case where nicknames are messy

[noble tulip]

just call it the kisaki gun smh

[tame jungle]

imagine how the newbies feel when we hit them with shit like cat instead of nakhimov

[fast frigate]

is anchorage good tank

[eager mulch]

yes

[reef flume]

Lmao

[eager mulch]

#off-topic message this is cat turret

[cobalt rapids]

ok i give up on calling it frog

[forest palm]

and that is also not the 76 we have in game

[jaunty vault]

that is kisaki gun

[hollow gust]

Breezy

[eager mulch]

twin 76mm and twin 57mm done go next

[forest palm]

[jaunty vault]

is twin 76 better than single 76

[tame jungle]

two of them

[eager mulch]

two is better than one

[cobalt rapids]

well its twin so sure

[worldly pewter]

seeing how overwhelming the gearing in this game
new players when they see this kind of conversations will get traumatized for life

[eager mulch]

I’d rather have two amagi-chans than one

double the patting

[tame jungle]

you're one to talk abdou, you're the one who confuses the newbies the most

[eager mulch]

confuses vets too

[tame jungle]

like the animal doctors?

[sweet delta]

Share the math

[hollow gust]

Total damage - HP = total aa damage
Distribute according to aa stat

[sweet delta]

Bro completely forgot that his airstrikes solo two or more whole waves of planes

[hollow gust]

That's why it's a reaaalu rough math

[forest palm]

people more confused what to call the 76 Mk 37 than they were the Twin 90

[sweet delta]

Unzen does 10k aa at most and averages 15k to 20k more than hinden on endscreen. And minimums are similar to hinden minimums, maybe 5k less without AA at worse

[eager mulch]

i just call it the twin 76mm

[slow fox]

Hmmm I'd do AA math like:

Calibration Run
Do a run with inoffensive ship (so that she does as little surface damage as possible)

???

[barren barn]

Is there a way to get her

[cobalt rapids]

who

[sweet delta]

Who

[barren barn]

Implacable

[cobalt rapids]

pull on the banner

[barren barn]

Help

[soft raft]

She's been rerunning for the past week 💀

[barren barn]

Picture delay

[soft raft]

At that point just pray to RNGesus

[ivory pawn]

You do still have like 30 hours ish.

[barren barn]

Dam 💀

[cobalt rapids]

30h 11 pulls and a dream

[ivory pawn]

That said, you'd need like 38 cubes, don't think you can get that much in a day.

[barren barn]

I will do what i can

[ivory pawn]

It's ok tho, she's in your queue now.

[barren barn]

What queue

[sweet delta]

If you've been logging in every day, you get 12 cubes tomorrow from monthly login

[ivory pawn]

I stand corrected, there's a chance!

[soft raft]

Neither of the two visible timers look like a 04:35:00 to me

[cobalt rapids]

did ashen simul give cubes

[soft raft]

like 5 I think

[cobalt rapids]

maybe its doable with monthly then

[barren barn]

No

[eager mulch]

buy quick finishers

[barren barn]

I can farm chap13

Clear i mean

[sweet delta]

You snooze you lose

[glossy granite]

All i can say is once you see the Construction time ''04:35:00'' just beg that its her

[eager mulch]

04:25:00 is also a blessing

[fast frigate]

Gl bro

Time attack

[crisp geode]

Time to use the wife's emergency funds

[soft raft]

What

[fast frigate]

💀

[upbeat wagon]

mans about to drop 600$

[polar lion]

Gannet or VT51 for anti sub?

[eager marsh]

If I can't yet clear corrosion 6 maps, should I still get the coordinate logger?

[polar lion]

At worst they will still turn into vouchers

[eager mulch]

not true

[runic bluff]

is the new AA gun in gear lab good?

[sharp socket]

the UR one yes

[runic bluff]

what is the comparison on it vs the iris AA gun?

or whatever faction it is

[sharp socket]

+15 hit and about the same in AA damage iirc

[timid oar]

UR twin 76 got 15 hit, Better for battleships.

[polar lion]

So why is gannet over VT51?

[timid beacon]

Gannet has an extra passive

[fast frigate]

if i use this ticket i can instantly get any ships from the listed without development right?

[ivory pawn]

You'll still have to get enough blueprints to bring them to dev30/FS5, but yes.

All three ships can be coined as well, so it would accelerate getting enough blueprints.

[fathom apex]

is there a command to see what the current meta pvp builds are?

[rain vine]

#pvp

[fast frigate]

whats dev30 /fs5

[ivory pawn]

Think of dev30 as similar to Limit Breaking the Research ships, while FS5 is more like Retrofitting. Except both use the same item, a blueprint unique to that ship. For these ships, you can just buy blueprints with coin, so once built it'll just be a matter of time before you reach dev30.

[copper glacier]

Is the current event plane any good? Should I spend 2000 event tokens on it?

[soft raft]

it's alright
tho buy it anyways because it's better to have it and not need it later than the other way around, even if it's highly unlikely you'll ever use it

[sweet delta]

Sometimes, yes

[fathom apex]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[sweet delta]

#bot-spam

[fast frigate]

ty

[clever lance]

Is today the last day to pull for the UR or do we have all of tmr

[soft raft]

#bot-spam for personal use of bot commands for future reference

[soft raft]

we have another 30 hours left

[clever lance]

Thought so thanks

[maiden flume]

i cant beat 9-3 anyone got any tips for more combat power or wtvvv

[atomic abyss]

I mean, what's the 6th ship?

For reference, combat power is irrelevant

[maiden flume]

Helena is the 6th ship

[atomic abyss]

You should be able to clear it with ease then
Pittsburgh works as a tank in place of Portland
Indiana is a really good SR BB

I'm assuming gear is the issue

[maiden flume]

I think so i dont really know what gear is good

[atomic abyss]

If unicorn was retrofit it would probably be enough too

[maiden flume]

thats her retrofit

[atomic abyss]

You should work on getting her fully retrofit

Not partially

[maiden flume]

Yeah im just mising the materials

[atomic abyss]

You can get the needed materials within 2 weeks of starting the game

[maiden flume]

im missing the t2 carrier retrofit blueprints

[glossy granite]

How do you even get that PR voucher ticket lmao

[atomic abyss]

You are doing campaign hard mode for carrier bp regularly right

[atomic abyss]

Money

[glossy granite]

Amazing

[maiden flume]

No..

[atomic abyss]

There's your problem then

Given that it's time gated, you can't really grind it per se

It's a daily commitment kinda thing

You should work on doing all the hard mode maps that drop carrier retrofit BP
And 3* them too, since that gives you the T3 ones

[maiden flume]

Okay thank you

[zenith pebble]

after i clear every stage in opsi, what do i do then

like, cleared 50 places or whatever theyre called

[ivory pawn]

Clear all the zones. Clear all the loggers. Clear all the sirens. Clear Arbiter. Do as much to Harbiter as you can. Clear the strongholds. Save ~200 AP worth of boxes for Monday's stronghold. Maybe a few more boxes in case you get a siren coord from dailies. And spam c3 or c5 with the rest of your AP.

[zenith pebble]

loggers? where are the sirens located? and what is arbiter?

[rain vine]

loggers are the things in your opsi inventory
arbiter is the middle node

[soft raft]

Arbiter is the big red swirly in the middle

[zenith pebble]

ohhhh

[ivory pawn]

If you see a floating icon, go clear it out. Prioritize red ! if you still have any, that'll unlock Arbiter.

[zenith pebble]

is the arbiter really hard or can i just cheese it with a w14 fleet

[turbid gyro]

Hii, can someone send my their home screen/port so I can provide a working example for bluestacks support?
Thanks!

[ivory pawn]

Normal Arbiter you can do a little bit of damage to, then leave, heal, and come back and do some more damage.

[zenith pebble]

i started using ldplayer because bluestacks sucks to use

[zenith pebble]

dont i need to wait a day or can i just port and go back without them resetting

[rain vine]

port has no cooldown

[ivory pawn]

Don't have to wait at all, just gotta clear out the resolve debuff by beating something else up.

[zenith pebble]

oh, so going into another zone after healing and then go back to arbiter?

that sounds really easy ngl

[ivory pawn]

Pretty much. Yeah, it's stupid easy.

That's why there's Hard Arbiter, where you have to beat it in one sitting with your four fleets.

[zenith pebble]

and thats optional or should i do it for gear lab

i dont have wyvern or anything good, this my second time touching opsi

[ivory pawn]

You should. You'll get rewards for every x% HP you deal to Harbiter, while normal Arbiter guarantees you mats that you can use to make Wyvern.

[rain vine]

just do as much damage as possible to harbiter

[zenith pebble]

and i dont need to kill it, just damage and collect rewards?

[ivory pawn]

[zenith pebble]

🫂

[uncut willow]

is it recommended to throw a bunch of cubes at Implacable or should I save them for the upcoming event

[zenith pebble]

from what ive heard implac is really good

[thorny plume]

if you dont have implac or a UR cv then yes grab implac

[zenith pebble]

i know somebody has a list of ur ship events

i think thats belfast dude?

[harsh gust]

there's no such thing because we don't know what events are coming and when
it's at most speculation

[zenith pebble]

theres no pattern or anything?

guess we wait till devs say something

[harsh gust]

there's kinda is, but it can change
and it only concerns reruns
we definitely don't know anything about new ones

[zenith pebble]

oh for sure

[harsh gust]

so whether you should roll for Implac or save for new one is a mystery
so I'd say just roll for now
she's good

[zenith pebble]

trust the admins, its totally not because they scare me

[harsh gust]

[zenith pebble]

since admin here i have a question

how does one be a beta tester? is it like applying to a job at manjuu?

idk which channel to ask that

[harsh gust]

beta test refers to period after the game just came out
it's just a badge for people who played it during that time when access was limited

[soft raft]

Nope
CN, JP, and EN are all caught up in terms of major events anyways

only real way to see ahead is if you're in the KR or TW servers tho not like it honestly really means much with the cube income we have every month

[atomic abyss]

The game has long since left open beta too

[zenith pebble]

ohhhhh that sucks

[soft raft]

ngl honestly dunno what you were expecting when the game is like 8-9 years old

[atomic abyss]

^ this anyways
She's one of the best URs still

[zenith pebble]

should i use her instead of haku in boss?

[atomic abyss]

Which ryuu

[soft raft]

they do completely different things
Haku is damage CV and Implac is freeze utility

[zenith pebble]

shit

[atomic abyss]

Well, impla has less damage so probably not
Unless you actively need the fighter coverage she has in say w15

[zenith pebble]

so use implac in w15?

[soft raft]

She'd be in the support fleet yes

[atomic abyss]

Haku doesn't really feature in w15 at all due to the map gimmicks

Ironically, you'd actually prefer to bring some gold CV/CVLs instead

[zenith pebble]

uni?

[atomic abyss]

Uni, Aquila, Volga, Independence

[soft raft]

Uni of course would be your typical mob fleet mainstay
iirc some W15 boss comps used Perseus

[atomic abyss]

Not to use all of them ofc, but they're better than just blindly throwing URs at the problem

[zenith pebble]

perseus

[cosmic pine]

What're the best planes/loadouts to use for general bossing on Implacable, Harkyuu, and Shinano?

[soft raft]

"General Use" is not a thing in this game
But for OpSi where that lineup would be most used in, here's what I have saved

[hollow gust]

that comp isnt a general bossing comp, its specifically for single target heavy bossing

[tropic tusk]

If I have aquala I can swap her with Volga right ? For w15

[cosmic pine]

Oh, I guess I'm looking for a loadout for single target boss in OpSi

Would Wyvern mainly be used in mobbing fleets then?

[timid beacon]

you're gonna want to keep an eye on armour types and adjust accordingly, but single targets? stuff like converging torpedoes, aimed rockets, etc.

but balanced for the armour type. rockets are gonna do squat against a heavy armour boss

[cosmic pine]

Gotcha, so can use rockets for light/med and converging torps for heavy?

[timid beacon]

for the most part, yeah

keep an eye as well on passive interception. the Eagle HVAR fighters have rockets, but won't intercept like fighters: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_F6F_Hellcat_(HVAR-Mounted)

[timid beacon]

meanwhile your Wyverns, given you mentioned them, they're going to give you your broad torp damage plus interception: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Westland_Wyvern

[cosmic pine]

Okay, thanks a lot for the help! Was trying to figure out what gear i should be crafting for my CVs so I can boss more efficiently in OpSi

[thorny plume]

is it worth while to smack Harbiter even if i cant remotely beat it

[hollow gust]

beating a certain percentage gives you rewards, although you can post your fleet and we can see if you can improve it

[thorny plume]

this cycle i just throw random ships in it, ill def swing around on reset thought, gear is my issue right now. I can chunk about 25% of the boss with my 4 fleets, and i do have the whole opsi map open so ill be jumping around lvl 5 and 6 nodes just a few ur plans away from my 1st wyvern

[hollow gust]

this month is one of the easier ones , if you want to kill hard arbiters its smarter to start now

[zenith pebble]

how long would it take to get

[thorny plume]

If you think so. My roster is on the low end.

[zenith pebble]

5 wyverns?

[little tree]

2 years

Sooner with good RNG

[zenith pebble]

alright i quit

[hollow gust]

huh???

[thorny plume]

you get 4 Ur plans min a rotation

[little tree]

i got 2 in 6 month*

[fathom apex]

with the private quaters, whats the best activity to do to get max affection? cause im just talking to them all daily and wondering if theres a faster way

[zenith pebble]

gifts

[zenith pebble]

rotation is per month?

[fathom apex]

i meant the activities with them

[thorny plume]

yes opsi resets monthly

[zenith pebble]

4 minimum seems like a lot

[hollow gust]

you can get a wyvern every 2 and a half months from just blanks, its very likely to get even more from drops, not to mention there are like 10 special loggers that drop a blank each

[bold surge]

You need 9 plane prints so 5 wyverns require 45. Why do you even want 5 of em?

[thorny plume]

3 from shops 1 from Narbiter

[outer cedar]

Guys, why does my implacable deal 0 damage?

[stark quiver]

So I don’t need to swap gear

[hollow gust]

you can very easily get 5 wyverns in under a year

[bold surge]

Gear is lvl 0

[zenith pebble]

fleet building

[cobalt gate]

any reason why i feel raph heal is inconsistant?

[hollow gust]

terrible gearing and not max limit broken

[hollow gust]

cause she doesnt heal

[thorny plume]

i agree, 4 plans a month for 12 months is 48 plans which is 5 birds and some parts

[outer cedar]

What are her best gears?

[sweet delta]

That Roon is funnier though

[thorny plume]

now if you get lucky with cat nodes and siren coords you can speed tht up

[hollow gust]

also yeah. why is that roon damage so bad

[violet oracle]

Thoughts on the USS UR AA gun?

[sweet delta]

No thoughts, it's the best

[stark quiver]

5k dmg roon is smth I thought I’d never see

[zenith pebble]

that seems low

[cobalt gate]

wait raph doesn't heal?

[thorny plume]

thoughts on my earlier post

[hollow gust]

as for those , uhh yeah you are lacking quite alot.
should focus on some priorities though
CVs
Enterprise Implacable Ark Royal; Hopefully you get yourself access to ships like shinano and haku later on
BB
FDG Raffaello Bismarck Zwei
DD
Kazagumo
CLs
Plymouth Sirius Aurora
CA
Anchorage Agir

Current Comp/Main bossing
Enterprise Bismarck Zwei Implacable(mlb and level asap)
Roon u Helena Sandy

[zenith pebble]

from the port shops, i can buy everything after i clear all 50 zones right?

ive just been sticking with t2

[wind hazel]

not everything, but most

[thorny plume]

port shops will tell you how many zones you need to complete to unlock thier next tier

[zenith pebble]

what should i buy and put my special purple coins on

[hollow gust]

All the gold plates and rainbow plans

[thorny plume]

ill be getting agir unlocked today, just got to lvl up vanguard IB and shes home

[hollow gust]

nothing right now since you cant even max limitbreak her

[zenith pebble]

should i get building material things too?

[boreal temple]

do we have 1 more day on the rerun? or is maintenance later

[wind hazel]

1 more

[viscid swift]

1 more full day still

[hollow gust]

we have 27hours

[boreal temple]

[zenith pebble]

i would wanna avoid gilbraltar and ny city right?

[wind hazel]

huh

[zenith pebble]

or is there like a an order to buy stuff in port shop?

[wind hazel]

are you still on old port shop format?

[zenith pebble]

no idea

[wind hazel]

like just unlocked opsi recently or just finished the story recently

[lusty dirge]

I was wondering how to deal with those submarines any suggestion this is a first time I've been to this world.

[zenith pebble]

im on w13 if that helps

[wind hazel]

asw aux on unicorn, hedgehog+/depth charge on vanguard, good asw vanguard

[wind hazel]

i meant opsi story, not campaign. can you screenshot your port shop real quick

[zenith pebble]

oh, im on zone 21

[thorny plume]

gear plans can drop in hidden zones?

[lusty dirge]

Sorry for asking such a dumb question but I don't remember where I got this could somebody help me.

[soft raft]

it was a one-time reward from clearing the submarine weekly raid for the first time

[lusty dirge]

Oh okay.

Where can I get something like that or is it just events only that may have stuff like this.

[boreal temple]

there's a purple version of that

[viscid swift]

ASW planes can be crafted in the gear lab among other things

[soft raft]

And said purple version

[lusty dirge]

Okay well I really appreciate you taking the time to tell me what that is sorry for sounding so dumb.

[zenith pebble]

is it true when people say musashi best bb gun is the purple one

[wind hazel]

most of the time yes

[zenith pebble]

when would it not be?

[soft raft]

The purple IJN Twin 410 is her best HE Gun yes
otherwise she uses the Triple 410 from PR1 or the PR7 BB gun against Medium and Heavy

[zenith pebble]

i think thats what i have on her

is it because of her skills?

[soft raft]

IJN Main gun req for one of her skills yes

[zenith pebble]

musashi best doggo

wait is she dog?

[onyx burrow]

i saw a sheet with worth it packs for gems is there a command for that ?

[boreal temple]

try / help in #bot-spam maybe it's there

I only know / gems but that's for gem spending not whel guide

[spring basin]

is there ever a time when i should run more than 2 fleets to level ships ? & how would i go about keeping them up in the dorms?

[viscid swift]

I would never want to split oil/xp that much

[crisp geode]

I've finished the retrofit for the whole beginner fleet, should i start the retrofit on San Diego or Yuudachi?

[barren barn]

How much time left for the banner?

[robust onyx]

25 hours

[barren barn]

Fr??

[robust onyx]

Thursday is maintenance

[barren barn]

How to get cubes very fast

[sweet delta]

27 hours

[barren barn]

I need 2 pulls to get indolent

[bold surge]

in a couple of hours the day will reset and you can get the dailies again

[barren barn]

Ty

[grand solar]

So as it turns out replacing my level 125 Hood with my level 120 Musashi in one of Opsi Fleets to face the normal boss this month was a bad idea as she got targeted pretty damn quick and blown out of the water before half the life bars on my Vanguard were gone.

[viscid swift]

ok....

[bold surge]

Musashi should have far more survivability though

[grand solar]

Ah correction.

It was replacing my lvl 125 Kii with Musashi.

[robust onyx]

Musashi should still have more survivability

[atomic abyss]

Musashi is tankier, but she takes hits for everyone else remember?

And this is a BB arbiter

[bold surge]

Musashi is a monster tank so I think there are other variables at play

[atomic abyss]

Regardless, it's normal arbiter so yeah

[viscid swift]

just sounds more like a badly built fleet if it ever reached that point

[stark quiver]

[atomic abyss]

The rest of the fleet is the question

Musashi is soaking up unnecessary hits basically

[viscid swift]

I mean, why is Musashi using poverty gear in effect

[robust onyx]

Her skill drains damage

[atomic abyss]

That explains a lot

[viscid swift]

well you used a shit fleet and you got shit results

[atomic abyss]

Musashi is probably soaking hits targeted at zui and shou

[zenith pebble]

wait youre using crane sisters in opsi?

[atomic abyss]

Kii wouldn't, but her damage would be far less and result in you dragging the battle out to a possible time out

I mean zuikaku shoukaku aren't particularly bad

[sweet delta]

theyre bad when the battle lasts for 30 seconds

[bold surge]

The vanguard is more questionable

[atomic abyss]

At the end of the day, they are specialized for bosses

[zenith pebble]

if those two are the strongest they have, so be it

[wind hazel]

everything is questionable

[stark quiver]

well, at least i see sirius

[viscid swift]

the entire thing just screams thrown together with no thought or care

[atomic abyss]

I mean suchi, it's still narbi
The battle won't last less than 30s with that comp

[viscid swift]

questionale ship choices, poverty gear, etc

[atomic abyss]

It's probably gear

[zenith pebble]

belfast dude, should i skip next event?

[stark quiver]

why

[viscid swift]

up to you

[grand solar]

Not on some of them no.

[atomic abyss]

Not UR so skip rolling