gameplay-help

[storm heron]

wait...

[stark quiver]

[storm heron]

oh well 17 rld it is

[storm heron]

not that one, that one is 4-strike

but you were right tho, no need to reduce rld tech

[timid beacon]

theoretically, for ch15 would these fleets work, based on the google sheet?

MOB
Volga - Vanguard - Independence
Anchorage - Jeanne - Cheshire

BOSS
Nakhimov - Alsace - Implacable
Brest - Bayard - Plymouth

[stark quiver]

uhh no, boss has like minimal AA in frontline, and unicorn retro is nowhere to be found in mob, i also do not think chesh herself is sufficient for mob AA

[timid beacon]

I'm skipping Uni, but yeah I was feeling the AA was low in the mob

[stark quiver]

skipping uni means your mob frontline will die

[timid beacon]

yeah I'll have to make that work somehow

Brest might be the better mob tank in that case

with stronger AA flex's

[stark quiver]

thats not enough

i mean if its 15-1 it might have a chance

[timid beacon]

that might be as far as I can go for now. really I need Guam, don't have her yet

[stark quiver]

people have cleared 15 without guam and laff2

[timid beacon]

she'd make up for my no axis/no children self-imposed rule

[stark quiver]

z52 and shimanto exist

and san diego

[timid beacon]

violates the no axis limit

[stark quiver]

shimanto and sandy

[timid beacon]

Shimanto's still gonna be the issue for me

[storm heron]

what the

[timid beacon]

lol

yeah I've been running only-allies all through the game

[stark quiver]

guam,cheshire,sandy,shimanto,scylla ig, plymouth, bayard

oh bruh ye have fun

[timid beacon]

lol, yeah

[stark quiver]

im sure you can win w/o any axis ships

[timid beacon]

I've made it work so far, full 3 star clears of ch14

I knew ch15 was gonna get real tricky

[sweet delta]

Keep grinding for another few years and glhf

[timid beacon]

lol yeah gonna be a slow go through the chapter, for sure

right away even going allies-only, I don't have Guam or Soyuz which would be great options

[stark quiver]

when you get guam, have fun

[timid beacon]

getting Scylla and Implacable is gonna be nice

yea Guam is really gonna make a big difference

I'm actually surprised Scylla is rated as C in the google sheet, is there a reason I'm missing that she's that low?

besides being smol hull-wise

[stark quiver]

if you manual hard enough, or stack ewnough good gear, this may work

[timid beacon]

I play manual, so yeah there's options

[stark quiver]

cool, try that and see how it goes

[viscid swift]

you could try Perseus, Klaudia, etc

Painleve if you're desperate

[stark quiver]

oh yea uni is a loli
uh, percy kinda is too,
ig klaudia

[timid beacon]

guess who loves french ships and doesn't have Painleve yet T_T

[sweet delta]

Klaudia isn't Allies

[viscid swift]

she's not axis so good enough

[timid beacon]

doesn't matter, I still don''t have her lol

[viscid swift]

well do you have Perseus then

[timid beacon]

I do, she's an option

[viscid swift]

well there you go

if you're adamant about not using Unicorn

[sweet delta]

I got baited said allies only here #gameplay-help message

[stark quiver]

i mean, shes neither, so its up to your imagination

[timid beacon]

lol, yeah I am deliberately kneecapping myself for options with that

[viscid swift]

just curious, what do you have to work with right now

[little tree]

How much stronger does my mob .fleet need to be to do 2 bosses in 15 4

[viscid swift]

probably good enough as is

[timid beacon]

copied the S/A/B options I have from the google sheet into notepad

[viscid swift]

assuming everything is properly geared

[timid beacon]

expecting Painleve soon of course

[little tree]

Gear has been good enough for 15 3 so far so I'll see i guess

[timid beacon]

for the flex options I might need to dip into C tier for better AA options

[viscid swift]

so you don't have san diego retro?

[sweet delta]

She's a child

[timid beacon]

a bit on the childish side, so no (again, my kneecaps have been kneecapped lol)

[viscid swift]

ehh there's an entire debate I could get into about that

[timid beacon]

oh for sure

[stark quiver]

on everyones soul but mine, shes not a child

[sweet delta]

Kneecapped + sprained ankle

[viscid swift]

the basic bitch argument is that all the real ships are over 50 years old at this point

[timid beacon]

and my back hurts, because millennial

[dreamy blade]

just seems weird when there are literal child ships in the game (lil cheshire etc)

[timid beacon]

personal choice as to how I play the game

[eternal moth]

Do you consider Anchorage a child?

[timid beacon]

no, she's a mentally challenged sweetheart lol

[stark quiver]

[timid beacon]

she deserves hugs and support

[viscid swift]

ehh, I would make the argument Sandy is just a dumb teen in that case

[timid beacon]

oh yeah definitely some grey area, basically comes down to where I personally draw the line

[eternal moth]

What about Helena?

[timid beacon]

not enforcing that line on anyone

is Helena a sustainable option for ch15?

[eternal moth]

No idea, just trying to figure out where your line is so I can make suggestions

[viscid swift]

I mean well you'll be waiting for more than a bit at this point

[timid beacon]

ohhh, gotcha makes sense. yeah she's on the 'pretty sure she's graduated' side of the line lol

[viscid swift]

unionically

going for dupes might make the most sense here

[little tree]

[stark quiver]

this is the best i can do

[timid beacon]

I think it largely comes down to Guam will make a big difference, plus Painleve would be a bonus when working with Alsace too

[viscid swift]

Aquila is Italian and therefore axis alpha

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

oh yeah do you split between Iris and Vichiya or

[timid beacon]

naw they're all baguettes

[viscid swift]

what about the Chinese

[sweet delta]

brb setting up a dupe Nakhimov

[timid beacon]

for Hwah Jah? yeah definitely building her up

[stark quiver]

if youre tryina use chinawall, idt itll work
unless u only use yatsen

[viscid swift]

I was thinking Yat Sen plus Ning Hai

[sweet delta]

i dont think thatll work without sandy

[eternal moth]

Ning Hai is a child

[timid beacon]

it's definitely a bit weak, yeah

also that

[little tree]

I don't see how you will win 15 without using meta ships....

[stark quiver]

if you manual hard enough itll work

[viscid swift]

I said this as a joke earlier but you may be unironically be waiting for Des Moines and/or Worcester at this point

[timid beacon]

same way I made it all the way, through ch14 too. Baguette Bullshit™️

[little tree]

14 is way easier.

[timid beacon]

not with the limits I put on my fleet 😄

[viscid swift]

well you cleared W14 with what you had

[timid beacon]

took a bit to get the right ships. I'm also only just a year and a half into the game

[viscid swift]

and you haven't W15 yet so

[timid beacon]

yeah now with the Implacable rerun, I can really think about w15 finally

[viscid swift]

say what

[timid beacon]

but it's still gonna require some work, and more Baguette Bullshit™️

[timid beacon]

I needed that extra UR CV

[little tree]

Isn't implace only good in opsi ?

[stark quiver]

no

[viscid swift]

yeah Implac ain't gonna make the difference in W15 you think she will

[sinful escarp]

implac is for single bosses

[timid beacon]

she's not the difference maker, but she adds up

[dreamy blade]

even scylla might make more of a contribution than implac

[viscid swift]

no, in the sense that she would replace no one in the 2 main fleets

[timid beacon]

I also want her yeah

[viscid swift]

she's support fleet upgrade at best for you which is pretty minor overall

[timid beacon]

support fleet option is what I was thinking for her, more likely

[viscid swift]

but anyway, if you really wanna continue with this, the best thing you can probably do is roll and level 2 copies of Guam

[timid beacon]

yeah this event, Painleve in August, and Guam are gonna be big. if I can push 15-1 and maybe 15-2 before Guam arrives, that'll be a W in my book

plus whatever else comes out over the year

[viscid swift]

who knows at this point

[timid beacon]

I'm certainly not looking to blast through w15 knowing the limits I'm putting on myself, and as a newer player, yeah

[dreamy blade]

new EU event might have some good options

[viscid swift]

meh, doubtful, probably just more tech fodder

[timid beacon]

right? that's what I'm hoping. Pittsburgh and Indiana were gamechangers for me

[viscid swift]

uhhh, sure....

[timid beacon]

made w14 way easier than I expected

well considering I started playing AL at the beginning of last year, them showing up when the did made a big impact for my initial fleet options

not so much for longer-term players

[little tree]

Idk about that i started last year and they were side grades at best to my fleets

[viscid swift]

I mean, even with your limitations I don't quite see how they would have made that much of a difference given the perma options

[dreamy blade]

but you also had vastly more options

[timid beacon]

I found Indiana was a really good option for my w14 mobber, and Pittsburgh was a good debuffer for the boss

especially playing manual

[sinful escarp]

just a question though, is your allies limitations on just clearing maps or does it include you not getting anyone else?

[timid beacon]

includes not getting the ships, yeah

so no Fritz Rumey, for example

[little tree]

That means no ijn as well ?

[sweet delta]

👩‍💻

[timid beacon]

yup

[little tree]

My brain hurts from this gn chat.

[timid beacon]

lol, yeah I know my gameplay choices cause brain bleeds

[viscid swift]

I've scene worse tbh

[timid beacon]

I don't force my silliness on anyone 😄

[viscid swift]

I remember someone some time back demanding us to make an IB only fleet to auto clear W14

[dreamy blade]

at least it isn't a single faction limitation

[hollow gust]

You can use ships like Alsace and Soyuz , why Indiana

[stark quiver]

idt they haev soy goose

[timid beacon]

guess who wasn't able to get Soyuz T_T

was too early in my account, didn't have near enough cubes, or coins, or anything at the time

[nimble knoll]

Gud?

[timid beacon]

Gut

das gut

[nimble knoll]

Better than seafang, Or slightly worse?

[wind hazel]

thought we answered this before already... multiple times

[hollow gust]

Different type of plane , sea fang is a campaign fighter , bf109 for single target

[timid beacon]

no passive AA though, as an fyi

[nimble knoll]

So the bf109, Is good for like Meta fights and such?

[timid beacon]

yeah it's a rocket fighter, so you're taking on single bosses with it

light and very much medium armour types

[sweet delta]

but is it good against medium boss in CM or EX?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[timid beacon]

gonna depend on what the enemy is throwing out, but it's generally gonna be on the table as an option to consider

here's a question - San Fran not considered a ch15 mobber option because...? lack of AA?

[nimble knoll]

What are Hvar and Regular Hellcats good against again?

[timid beacon]

Hvar is another rocket fighter, so same
Hellcats are base intercept planes

[wind hazel]

use hvar against Light

[nimble knoll]

So it's not good against med? (Was planning on using it for Horni Meta)

[wind hazel]

bf109g is better

la9 is even betterer

[nimble knoll]

Then I should just keep using Regular Hellcats? (on my Enty cause I'll put the bf109 on my Yt2)

[timid beacon]

HVAR is behind a lot of options for medium

[stark quiver]

thats also assuming all bombs hit

[astral oar]

guys, whats the best place to power lvl my ships to 120?

[eternal moth]

12-1, 12-4

[plain saffron]

The difference all rocket aimed at the enemy, bombs is rng

[astral oar]

for real?

[timid beacon]

there's definitely some difference there, yeah

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BombSpread

Idk if ~50% count as some

[timid beacon]

true lol, 'some' is understating

[sinful elk]

Chat is Shangri-La good to use

[frank pulsar]

iirc pretty strong with augment

[sinful elk]

Stronger than Volga in term of damages?

[frank pulsar]

yea
volga is a healer after all

[astral oar]

wait, that chapter is pure plane hell does that 20% dmg reduction can help my fleets not get sink down?

[stark quiver]

its not plane hell

[frank pulsar]

shld be close to enty level of dmg iirc

[stark quiver]

those who know w15

[eternal moth]

Plane hell is chapter 13, you can do 12-1 with all battleships. I did it with Tennessee, Cali and Okie

[timid beacon]

13 is where 'plane hell' might start to apply, not 12

[frank pulsar]

you can do ch13 with full bb too...
the only real plane hell is w13h and w15

[eternal moth]

You might need a decent AA in your vanguard if you're not using carriers, but it's not that difficult

[astral oar]

theres too much planes to my liking they keep shooting me

[eternal moth]

Are you using Unicorn?

[timid beacon]

in 12? what're your fleets?

[astral oar]

yeah

[eternal moth]

Is the zone on safe?

[astral oar]

yes but i just wanna make sure

[timid beacon]

there's gotta be a gap in your fleet composition then, planes shouldn't be that much of an issue

[eternal moth]

I typically take in a group of ~level 100 to start

[astral oar]

[eternal moth]

Although having your second fleet be all cross-fleet capable helps with that too

[frank pulsar]

usually i bring lv80-90
it also matters if yr doing boss with farming fleet or a boss fleet as well
if its still too hard 12-1 shld be pretty easy to farm

[astral oar]

my only cross fleet is independence and im still lvling her skills

[timid beacon]

what's your mob fleet look like?

[sinful escarp]

at safe 12-1 is simple enough for a random assortment of lvl100 ships to level, even with no cross fleet

[astral oar]

will lvl 70 suffice if its unicorn and raffaelo babysitting them

[frank pulsar]

idk i never tried
why dont you test it

[astral oar]

ill try this week, gotta 120 my current fleets first, i have too many gold bulins

[sharp token]

what content raffaelo good at?

[sinful escarp]

mobbing

[sharp token]

is she like vanguard, a buffer?

[sinful escarp]

something like fdg with heals? not sure completely

[sharp token]

so fast gun is better for her?

[eternal moth]

I'd probably give her a 457

But I don't know if a really fast gun would be better.

[sinful escarp]

does her barrage need flag?
is it position dependent?

[eternal moth]

I don't know, I haven't run her off-flag yet

[timid beacon]

ok last thoughts before bed, 15-1 and maybe 15-2 fleets:
MOBBER
Volga - Vanguard - Painleve
Brest - Scylla - Bayard

BOSS
Nakhimov - Alsace - Yorktown II
Anchorage - Reno - Cheshire

SUPPORT
Indomitable, Implacable, Hwah Jah

[sharp token]

how about her own gun?

[plain saffron]

The new purple AA only plane the best for w15 support now?

[eternal moth]

It'd be better off on your boss fleet.

[plain saffron]

Or need more testing

[honest stirrup]

What new purple AA plane?

[sharp socket]

mobbing looks bad, where unicorn

[wind hazel]

she's underage

their fleet is basically no loli, only allies

with a single surcouf on the sub fleet LMFAOFJAFDJASAS

[eternal moth]

Does that mean they never did the newbie missions, since you have to use the starter for those?

[sharp socket]

[wind hazel]

i think it's just a challenge being made later into the game

[plain saffron]

Imagine all the fleet tech they lose

[eternal moth]

Soviets were part of the Allies, they weren't Axis

[honest stirrup]

Pretty sure Nakhimov is a post-war design

[vale spindle]

yes thats correct soviets were on the allied side after germans attacked them and broke some non aggression treaty thing

[sharp socket]

i mix up the russians and italians yet again

[vale spindle]

#history if u want to learn more

[sinful escarp]

what is the new purple AA plane being talked about earlier?

[astral oar]

[sharp socket]

anyway add unicorn to your mob fleet
if you have a musashi she replaces vanguard aswell
raffy also works there too based on testing i saw
also chuck san diego somewhere like replacing reno, she's the AA ship and has great damage too
if you have guam and/or laffey2 they can go in there too, guam sandy laff2 is the premier mob vanguard

[eternal moth]

Did you miss the point where he won't use Axis or loli ships? Musashi = Axis, Uni = loli

Raff = Axis, Sandy = loli apparently as well

[vale spindle]

how tf is sandy a loli

[sinful escarp]

he is not playing with efficiency in mind so yeah

[vale spindle]

realistic proportions != loli mate

[sharp socket]

wait that wasnt a joke

[wind hazel]

no sandy, bad

at least there's Guam, but he doesn't have her either so lol

[honest stirrup]

Anchorage isn't???

[sharp socket]

ok well if he's meme fleeting then i don't got anything for him

anchorage as loli is even more of a stretch than sandy

[eternal moth]

She's "a mentally challenged sweetheart" and is apparently ok

[wind hazel]

no, she's a mentally challenged sweetheart lol

[honest stirrup]

It's not about lolis, it's about "childish side" according to the image

[eternal moth]

No, it's entirely about looks

[wind hazel]

regardless i think nuzlocke challenge is fine, let's not dwell on what's loli what's not

[hollow gust]

[honest stirrup]

Enough about memes fleet that doesn't even really fit this channel

What's the "new purple AA plane" mentioned above?

[hollow gust]

What's the supposed best comp for this meta ?

[sharp socket]

i have no idea what that is but there is a gold fw190 that is supposedly better in AA than other options

but im using hellcats for support fleet w15 because suchi testing graph

[honest stirrup]

Yeah but that guy specifically said "purple"

[sharp socket]

better off asking @plain saffron himself cause im also curious what that is

[cobalt rapids]

do u have +13 mk7?
make kear 4 strike then

[cobalt gate]

i see, need 11 or 10 is enough for reload? i have all reload tech currently

[plain saffron]

Was it purple or gold, the new in gear lab

[cobalt rapids]

+10 fine

[cobalt gate]

there was a finding for the purple one in gear tech for ironblood for chehai and hwajah before that are better than flapjack for them, but with the new released ironblood gold plane, its better than all previous aa planes than before including for chenhai and hwajah

[honest stirrup]

Gold

Prototype Carrier-Based FW-190 G-3/R1, made from the infamous purple one

[cobalt gate]

these are basically only for support fleet

[honest stirrup]

Yes we know. Guy above initially asked if it was the new best support fleet

[cobalt gate]

its also cheap to build but not much use if you did w15 already

[normal cedar]

is it the same for everyone? am I just supposed to see black screen there or skin preview...?

[honest stirrup]

Have you tried rebooting the game

[tropic tusk]

If U did have U try fix assets

[dreamy blade]

i have this issue too and it's bc you dont have the assets downloaded, like when you build a new ship and theres that popup in the bottom right that says "downloading assets 0/2.6 mb"

im not aware of a way to fix it besides actually acquiring the ship, updating assets didnt change anything

[tropic tusk]

Naa I didn't own some ships on the shop before also and everything still shows up

[dreamy blade]

[wind hazel]

are you guys keeping cv conceal at lv14? my fritz got revealed since 1st strike lol. cat hid til 3rd strike

[cobalt rapids]

im at lv10

[normal cedar]

ohh, Ill try update assets once in settings, if it doesnt work then ill just check the wiki or something

[cobalt rapids]

mby try breguette nahki

[crisp raven]

for me, ply new ur aa, helena sexy, and z52 roomba all +10 were decent. cat got revealed once and frits none. didnt see if planes survived, or if vg moved away and lets planes through

[wind hazel]

i guess vanguard movement rng, 3rd fight kept concealment til fight finish

some of the fast plane can escape at the bottom part

🧑🏼‍🍳 time to cook some breguet

kaza died 4th fight

[hoary relic]

Is there any ways to convert ship's exp into exp books when she is maxed ?

[storm heron]

do we have level 15 unlocked today?

[plain saffron]

Other than use her, nope

[storm heron]

cause uh

I think I might be missing a day

[wind hazel]

14 max today

[vestal yoke]

is there such a thing as a gurenteed UR pull in this game?

[frank pulsar]

is there a better fleet than this for one shotting jintsuu? idh eldridge and this is the best ive come up with so far

[vestal yoke]

like how many cubes do I need to guerentee a UR?

[frank pulsar]

yr guaranteed a ur after 200 pulls on a ur banner
pity does not carry over
for standard ur just collect points, 1 cube spent = 1 point

[vestal yoke]

so just dailiy light ship build right

[frank pulsar]

yea

[frank pulsar]

i can prob push this to like 1.2 or 1.3m with more +13 but otherwise idk

[normal cedar]

I updated the assets and it was fixed, did it not work for you?

[tropic tusk]

wt ship is that?

[molten zinc]

Aurora

[cobalt rapids]

sushis

[tropic tusk]

thx

[cobalt rapids]

wait no eldr

[tropic tusk]

can it run with eldr?

[cobalt rapids]

just run z52 instead of eldr ig

[storm heron]

need eld 3 uss

and protek aurora since she usually dies

[molten zinc]

helena then

[nocturne glade]

im running these on anchorage atm, should I gearlab them to the iris triple torps? Or is the lower cd more desirable

[cobalt rapids]

right
guam or laffey then

[whole crypt]

it's 15 tomorrow, it's just jp tomorrow happens to still be today on en time

[cobalt rapids]

sidegrades
not rly any noticeable diff between them
blue is abit faster and no dmg
purple is abit slower but abit more than no dmg

[whole crypt]

I didn't actually look at the concealment though

[tropic tusk]

where do u get this gun?

[whole crypt]

is there anything that reveals your CV in hornetM besides the planes

[dreamy blade]

it did not lol but glad it worked for you

[cobalt gate]

welp doing awful against jin meta with current team, is there any bb ones that work well?

[whole crypt]

shop in clemenceau's event

[cobalt rapids]

The Fool's Scales

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty!

[tropic tusk]

rip didnt start playing the game yet that time

any HE wep works right?

[molten zinc]

Seatle gun should be just fine or Plym gun if you have it

[cobalt gate]

keep missing around 20k damage for jin meta

[tropic tusk]

only have 1 ply gun

[frank pulsar]

ill try that ty

[faint haven]

Which stage should I go for leveling up my ship?

[frank pulsar]

12-1/12-4

[tropic tusk]

12-1 more exp -less coin , 12-4 more coin-less exp

[cobalt rapids]

yk2 is deactived
needs uss so try guam or laffey 2

[noble tulip]

pilica's fleet, it's a pretty severe overkill

[frank pulsar]

ill try both

[frank pulsar]

does aurora or a bb have prio for ply gun? i only have 3

[cobalt rapids]

bb

[dreamy blade]

definitely not aurora

[humble tapir]

is there anything to watch out for in chapter 11 like planes or bomb boats? im planning to push up rn after a month of ignoring story mode

[cobalt rapids]

bomb bots and bbs

[frank pulsar]

more bomb boats
w12 and w13 no bomb boats but planes

[humble tapir]

ooh alr ty!

[storm heron]

I feel like the problem with cheeky's setup or suchi's setup is just the fact that I am broke and can't afford a +13 kear gun

[crimson glacier]

i dont think thats a problem when there is no benefit for 1 shotting metas anyway

[storm heron]

I got consistent 6% hp left

[noble tulip]

just run the setup i posted if you don't want to +13 kear gun

[sharp socket]

what is kear gun

[cobalt rapids]

mk7 kear with autoloader 4 strike then

[storm heron]

I don't have second mk7 +13

[cobalt rapids]

is pretty much the same

[sharp socket]

the gold mk6?

[tropic tusk]

purple

mk6 is purple right?

[cobalt rapids]

kear gun is this

[tropic tusk]

oh another gun

[cobalt rapids]

ignore the name

[sharp socket]

that does not look like a twin gun

[noble tulip]

how many +13 hvars do you have

[sharp socket]

just give the wiki link or the full name of the gun

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/14540

[sharp socket]

so it is gold mk6

[dreamy blade]

40 oil is 40 oil

[cobalt rapids]

gold mk6 used to be monarch gun

[crimson glacier]

is there no support barrage for old meta battles

[cobalt rapids]

no support barrage

[cobalt gate]

how does support barrage work? don't i still have to do the battle once for it to trigger?

[crimson glacier]

when its active the boss just takes a ton of dmg everytime you battle it for no cost

you cant fight the boss without it when its active

[cobalt rapids]

you do it triggers after like 1 month in the current showdown only and scales its dmg every day or week(idk) for ur hosted battles only

[astral oar]

guys

is tbf avenger good on independence or no?

[dreamy blade]

it's not really good on anyone, you can safely ignore the buff to USS planes she has (although it's nice for flapjacks)

[cobalt rapids]

use good planes on indep and ignore her uss skill proc unless u can fit it with a sidegrade

[cobalt gate]

so does helena have to trigger radar only once to be better than ply for jin meta?

or needs to be like triggering radar at later half

[honest sequoia]

is this an OK AA gun?
Or just trash

[tropic tusk]

i believe its shit

[frank pulsar]

just use a quad bofors

or a twin 113
both are from tech box

[honest sequoia]

then is it ok to stack this AA on my vanguard

[frank pulsar]

er
shld be fine if you dont use too many

[honest sequoia]

idk like 2 maybe?

[dreamy blade]

better than purple aa guns, worse than most gold ones

[cobalt rapids]

kinda both
ull also need diff timings because 23s cvs will desync by 2nd strike
so prob like 2 scans to beat ply because ure also giving abit more dmg from jintsu mechanic to make them faster aswell

[cobalt gate]

I see

[mild sail]

Why direct upgrade to the purple 406mm isn't a gold version of itself

[atomic abyss]

Because the 406mk6 is a T3 weapon and starts as grey

[cobalt rapids]

the direct upgrade is a rainbow version of itself

[mild sail]

I forgot it have gray version

[atomic abyss]

The rainbow is the mk7

[normal cedar]

Any of the guides do not seem to say anything about war archives, is it worth going for anything there before world 9?

Any priority order for which to be done first?

[tropic tusk]

war archives is more of just getting tech points

like those german ships for example

[cobalt rapids]

UiU/PP has oilcap and easy to grind before u reach w9+ oilcaps
divergent chessboard for grinding iron blood ships for kms tech

[normal cedar]

Ohh, I see
What about doing the 60x for any sr drop there? Any important ships there?

[cobalt rapids]

not rly
jda for using in late campaign and otherwise tech fodder when ure farming tech

technically u37 is also good for wolfpack but u can also buy her in merit

[dreamy blade]

the 60x drop ships are also in the perma pool so you might eventually just build them, theyre mainly for faction tech to unlock pr ships

[normal cedar]

Thanks!!

[rose cosmos]

Is there any bb that’s good for med armor?

[frank pulsar]

plenty
zwei, soyuz, etc

[rose cosmos]

Don’t have both of them lol

[tame jungle]

well what do you have then

[frank pulsar]

where are you gonna use the bb

also might be good idea to just post screenshot of yr bb
if multiple pics then make a thread beforehand

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[rose cosmos]

Currently what I am using, kind of sub optimal

I wouldn’t think I was gonna struggle at lv13 lol

[atomic abyss]

I mean

[atomic abyss]

You're struggling cos you're using rockets in campaign...

[rose cosmos]

It’s hornet

[tame jungle]

no i think he's doing hornet meta

[atomic abyss]

Ah
Z52 aux is abysmal

[north wharf]

I'm currently running York II, Kearsarge, Impla with Ägir, Helena-kai and Kronsthadt for Hornet Meta, isn't able 2 shot even level 13. Is something obvious I'm doing wrong?

[atomic abyss]

As is Helena for the matter

[north wharf]

Oh lol I have the same issue I guess

[rose cosmos]

What do you rec

[atomic abyss]

Drop the loaders for survival aux

[boreal wagon]

fritz should probably be running dual rockets

[tame jungle]

i'm not sure if CVs are the way to go for this one, has anyone cooked up anything yet?

[atomic abyss]

Also it's because the boss has high evasion

[rose cosmos]

Yeah my Helena def needs new kit

[rose cosmos]

She didn't die though

[tame jungle]

neither is the aux doing anything for you

[vestal yoke]

how do I get medals of honor?

[tame jungle]

retiring ships

blue rarity and above

[atomic abyss]

The loaders aren't contributing anything either
If you're having no issues surviving
Then you can afford to drop eld

[vestal yoke]

retiring?

[tame jungle]

yes retiring
build button on main menu then retire in the left bar

[atomic abyss]

Actually
Are the CVs even synced with Helena

[vestal yoke]

gotcha, and if I get 80 who shoud I buy? enti right?

[tame jungle]

yes if possible enty is really good

[atomic abyss]

Given enty is using tenrai and Yk2 is using skyraider
I doubt they're syncing with helena

[rose cosmos]

But shouldn’t I want eld because of her slow

[tame jungle]

although, can't you also get enterprise from some beginner mission?

[vestal yoke]

also is there a reason to get 3 stars on missions?

[atomic abyss]

You get gems

[tame jungle]

check your missions tab

[rose cosmos]

Also what are supposed to be the rocket planes btw, bfg?

[vestal yoke]

I don't see one

[atomic abyss]

There are different rockets
BF109G is just 1 kind of rocket

And it's better for medium than the HVAR Hellcats

[rose cosmos]

So what should I give rumey

[vestal yoke]

I got an event where I got prinz eugene but thats it

[boreal wagon]

beginner rewards are that lil newcomer button on your main menu its not under events

(if you are for some reason using the old ui its a red ribbon instead)

[atomic abyss]

Rumey shd be double BF109G
Yk2 shd be 2 BF109G 1 Skyraider
Enty shd be BF109G, Tenrai, and a converging TB

None of them shd be using HVAR for hornet meta

[fervent temple]

something like this

[atomic abyss]

I mean I doubt he has LA9 so

[vestal yoke]

I'm on the hard tab on it and it's nelson, I can't check the exam tab yet maybe it's there

[boreal wagon]

its the very final reward for exam yes

[atomic abyss]

Also Rumey absolutely wants a STAAG or the new UR AA for this meta anyways

[boreal wagon]

also technically skyraider is maginally worse than bfg against medium

[vestal yoke]

so I shouldn't buy enti, who should I spend my medals on then?

[fervent temple]

will certainly try that in LV.15

[tame jungle]

depends on what's in your medal shop this month

[boreal wagon]

i dont know what the modern newbie recommendations are sorry

[atomic abyss]

It depends on what you can get even

[tame jungle]

if you go to the medal shop, what's the first 2 items that you see?

[vestal yoke]

CVs are: enti,illustrius, shoukaku, zukaku, formidable, ryuuho, akaagi u, taihou u

CAs are: takao,atago,prinz, minneapolis, baltimore,zara,pola

[atomic abyss]

I'd recommend getting enty now and get San Diego for the beginner rewards later

[vestal yoke]

I thought it was a set reward

[atomic abyss]

Nope

[tame jungle]

you get to pick one of four ships

[atomic abyss]

Choice between Hood, Illustrious, Enterprise, San Diego

[vestal yoke]

okay so buy enti now and go for san diego in newcomer rewards

[tame jungle]

yep

[vestal yoke]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

Rumey shd be double BF109G
Yk2 shd be 2 BF109G 1 Skyraider
Enty shd be BF109G, Tenrai, and a converging TB

Drop Helena
She probably doesn't sync with your carriers past the first airstrike

[rose cosmos]

I only have 4 bfg, is there any sub?

[rose cosmos]

Can sirius do the job

[atomic abyss]

Kazagumo would be preferred

[rose cosmos]

I haven’t leveled my kazagumo though

[tame jungle]

unforgivable

[atomic abyss]

Use a HVAR then I suppose
Prolly on enty

Well if no kaza then it's pretty cope

[boreal wagon]

wouldnt an ARA with more aa help more

given hornies zoomy planes

[rose cosmos]

Well I have her fully developed, it’s just that she’s level 98

[atomic abyss]

I think less people would have hamm2 raised so

[boreal wagon]

fair enough

[rose cosmos]

Gears and books are done, it’s just that she’s 98

[atomic abyss]

If Sirius is at 120
She shd work in the interim

[vestal yoke]

should I buy a 3rd slot for the tactial school with gems?

[tame jungle]

nope

[sinful escarp]

its for dorm that you want to buy the 3rd slot and 2nd floor NOT school

[cobalt rapids]

no issues in 14

8 bars before 3rd strike and rafa gun and 4th la9 are only +10 so it looks to be a chill meta

[whole crypt]

stig had something with 4xLa-9 on Soy/Nak/Fritz, I'm using La-9/Skyraider on my set now because I don't have a 4th La-9 yet and +13s

supposedly 95% kill with La-9 not sure how it'll go for my skyraiders

[cobalt rapids]

yea im using stig comp

with 113 on vanguard because im poor tho

[whole crypt]

is La-9 higher or is it more of a timing thing

[cobalt rapids]

la is way better on med

[whole crypt]

well I guess I can swap in the third one first

[cobalt rapids]

even +10 beats +13 skyraider

[whole crypt]

where does BFG sit

[cobalt rapids]

like near skyraider

[whole crypt]

so it's either swap to Lavochkin or bust

[cobalt rapids]

yea its pretty op

[bleak parcel]

Do higher hardmode stages (for example 9-x, as opposed to 5-x) have higher drop rate chances for T3 blueprints, than lower one's? Or do we not know?

[cobalt rapids]

allegedly but we dont know
either way u wanna go higher for better coredata income

[bleak parcel]

Alright, thanks

[normal cedar]

Any idea for what the sr & elite ship drop rates are for normal stages/ war archives??
Even a rough estimate is fine

[cobalt rapids]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[whole crypt]

I had a couple +13 57s so it was more of who gets 57 and who gets 76

[normal cedar]

Okk, thanks; so they are most likely below 5% ig

[cobalt rapids]

my 57s are locked to my 15 grinding fleet

[whole crypt]

I'm not grinding 15 so

[cobalt rapids]

well im dipping below 1k cogs so not much to do

[whole crypt]

toned down BB RLD by 2...

[cobalt rapids]

im alr

[whole crypt]

I also lack the gold plates for +13 on raff gun

[cobalt rapids]

i can +13 both rafa and 4th la9 but ill see how the rate is next week
id rather not

[whole crypt]

I only have +12 on raff gun and 3rd La-9

so 4th La-9 is definitely not getting enhanced soon, but it's also probably another 3 weeks out at this rate

wtf is that emote

[cobalt rapids]

exactly what it says it is

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

it's not like I changed my research priorities but rates have been pretty bad since third plane

[cobalt rapids]

in my last 3 weeks i had 2 weeks of no la9 print

[forest palm]

luck be like that

[vestal yoke]

so I just completed chapter 5 but still only am lvl 35, I've done all the hard mode missions I could as well what should I do now?

[dreamy blade]

wait for the event tomorrow or you can do some war archives

[whole crypt]

push as high as you can, if you're level gated repeat highest you can for normal campaign

honestly I probably won't recommend saving at this point if you're not going to have enough levels to push higher in the event anyway

[warm flax]

This good?

[sharp socket]

ham2 good for hornet meta?

[forest palm]

it's not worth using

[whole crypt]

not really, whatever makes you think that

if you want an ARA Kazagumo probably still better for not hitting like wet tissue

[cobalt rapids]

timing adjustment sometimes, quite niche but hold onto it

[forest palm]

Ham2 has always existed as cope

[vestal yoke]

the maintenence tomorrow is only gonna be an hour long right?

[whole crypt]

she's great for lowcost 13-1

[sharp socket]

i heard ham2 was useful in this meta

[forest palm]

probably usual 8 hrs

[whole crypt]

heard from where

[sharp socket]

for AA together with ara

[whole crypt]

yeh but ther AA req isn't that high

[tame jungle]

that's some selective hearing

[cobalt rapids]

the only planes ive seen slip were the ones that my aa didnt get to shoot

[sharp socket]

#gameplay-help message

[whole crypt]

Ender

[tame jungle]

read the rest of the messages around it
hamm2 was the cope option

[forest palm]

are Hornet's Plane's strong? they've seems relatively weak

[boreal wagon]

they are very weak

[forest palm]

what I thought

[sharp socket]

i thought "less people wouldve hamm2 raised" = better but niche option

[boreal wagon]

the only thing they have going for themselves is being fast

[tame jungle]

so far they're mostly annoying and break conceal

[boreal wagon]

which may lead to them slipping by aa range

[whole crypt]

same shit as Taihou it's just a lot of spam

[boreal wagon]

but ham2 doesnt fix that obviously

[whole crypt]

breaking concealment is obviously the problem

damage is going to be frontloaded anyway since she gains eva over time?

[boreal wagon]

eva rate every 18s (up to 3 times)

[tame jungle]

yeah has been the biggest issue for me so far

but i'm also just lacking the appropriate anti-med stuff

[whole crypt]

basically if you don't do enough damage in the first 2 strikes then being revealed in the third one isn't really going to be your deciding factor

[sharp socket]

what about the five strike shenanigans i saw cooking a while ago

did those come out to anything

[tame jungle]

what the fuck

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure what you were cooking but if each strike has dogshit damage then the whole thing is dogshit

[cobalt rapids]

how do u get 5 strikes with cvs

[whole crypt]

also I'm not sure where you're going to find shit with 15s cycle time

[cobalt rapids]

unicorn

[tame jungle]

top comp so far is soyuz fritz nakhimov right

[whole crypt]

preload+4?

Unicorn sounds kind of cope for total damage even with pre

[cobalt rapids]

ye ik i was joking

[whole crypt]

and your other option is what, Aquila with a shit DB?

not sure how fast you can get her

[cobalt rapids]

probably
does depend on ur available gear tho

[boreal wagon]

i dont think anyone is seriously considering 5 strike

[kindred jasper]

Hi wanted to ask, didnt play game in a while, how often do wishing wells rerun? Or if it is still a thing. And how often we getting UR/UR ship reruns every 3-4 months or longer? Thank you very much.

[whole crypt]

well it's celerio, it's probably not serious

[whole crypt]

effectively CN anniv and your region's anniv

[cobalt rapids]

usually CN anni and EN anni so end of May and August

[honest sequoia]

Can someone explain what does that Alpha damage mean in twin 113m/sextuple

[whole crypt]

UR reruns lately have been following right after 2 years of the original slot

[whole crypt]

alpha damage means single shot damage

[cobalt rapids]

alpha damage as in the guns raw dmg

[whole crypt]

in theory "high DPS" can consist of low damage + high rate or high damage + low rate, high alpha but slow is the latter

[honest sequoia]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

but in practice the rate is shit anyway just go damage

(and range)

[wind hazel]

[astral oar]

whats the usual combo of aa guns? 2 rhoomba and 3 quad bofors?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content

and ur ships

[whole crypt]

5 rainbow guns

[astral oar]

[cobalt rapids]

actually yes

[wind hazel]

5 frog +1 roomba?

[whole crypt]

well seriously, yes 5 rainbow guns, it's just not something everyone can do

[cobalt rapids]

frog gun on every1

[whole crypt]

if you have more 76s you don't actually seriously need a roomba

[astral oar]

what frog?

[whole crypt]

57's 30 range is fair game mostly, roomba boost is going to be more for sextuples and quads

[frank pulsar]

twin 76

[frank pulsar]

it looks like frog so everyone calling it some variant of frog

[whole crypt]

someone said it looks like a cat more

[cobalt rapids]

someone has bad eyesight

[frank pulsar]

~~looks like a pigeon to me ~~

[rigid onyx]

still dont get how it looks like a frog

[whole crypt]

ink splodge

[wind hazel]

it obviously looks like a nunya

[honest sequoia]

looks like jake jakeing it

[rigid onyx]

do you just ignore the fact that there are 2 sets of what looks like 'ears' and 'eyes'

[mild sail]

Does it have nickname irl?

[frank pulsar]

is it even real

[tame jungle]

i think so yeah

[whole crypt]

but in all seriousness, if you have 5 76mms you really don't need to bother using other AA guns in the fleet

[astral oar]

damn thatll take a while then

[wind hazel]

how big is 3 range

[boreal wagon]

about 3 big

[tame jungle]

3

[cobalt rapids]

bigger than 2 smaller than 4

[tame jungle]

is it bigger than 1 too

[cobalt rapids]

absolutely

[wind hazel]

like this is with 5 frog. can that 3 range cover entire top to bottom?

[whole crypt]

try 5 roomba circle and come back again

[wind hazel]

tru, lemme go test at cm

[rigid onyx]

why do i consistently backread and see people say not to stack roomba

[whole crypt]

because minmaxing suggests you should max DPS by mixing with fast guns but it's useless in practice most of the time

[wind hazel]

nvm i realize i wasnt using 5 frog

[tame jungle]

b-but muh dps

[cobalt rapids]

they have no planes

[wind hazel]

my frogs were on my pvp...

[eager mulch]

frog?

[tame jungle]

rainbow 76 aa

[wind hazel]

anywhere where i can test without oil or ap

[eager mulch]

you have 76 rainbow AA??

[rigid onyx]

this channel calls 76mm UR aa frog for some godforsaken reason

[tame jungle]

because it looks like a frog

[whole crypt]

some people claim it looks like a frog, just call it a 76mm if you have a problem with that

but anyway, if you don't know what you're doing with your AA full roomba is the least harmful option, barring rainbow guns

[eager mulch]

nah, 76mm frog turret isn’t as cute as the 127mm cat turret

[tame jungle]

these dudes allergic to whimsy

[cobalt rapids]

ill call it the the frog for some godforsaken reason gun

[whole crypt]

I'll call it the gun I can't afford to +13

[novel solstice]

Why not? What else are you going to do with all of your gold AA plates?

[tame jungle]

fifteen million +13 sextuples

[whole crypt]

[wind hazel]

he made 8

[whole crypt]

7 of them are +13 so... 2520 gold plates right there

[wind hazel]

not just 8 but 7 +13

[forest palm]

was there anything in the Weibo post, or the JP Patch notes of note?

[eager mulch]

they ain’t even all +13, get your numbers up funny man

[shell willow]

rip bozo

[whole crypt]

I only have 6 sextuples at +13

[cobalt rapids]

u owe me 50 oil

[whole crypt]

don't tell them about the STAAGs and 134s

[eager mulch]

is that a whale gui

[cobalt rapids]

i got it for free when buying gems

[rapid grail]

donate gem and oil pl0x

[whole crypt]

who's that vanguard

[rapid grail]

oathed azuma

[whole crypt]

that explains it, Azuma basically saw no action after I oathed her 🙃

[sharp socket]

the comp i saw was 4.5 strike not 5 strike fully

[eager mulch]

where amagi-chan

[tame jungle]

the chamber

[whole crypt]

more rather after they added oath skin

I'm fairly sure she was already maxed before they added oath skin so I never got around to using her with it

[eager mulch]

[rapid grail]

who to mlb
assume i'm doing w15 by mid april

[forest palm]

Fritz

[tropic tusk]

wtf so many red lol

[rapid grail]

well i was just finish farming in 12-4

so much stuff i need to dump coin to

[tropic tusk]

lol

[frank pulsar]

fritz, z52 and maybe raffaello/implac

[cobalt rapids]

i don't see 15 bulins in that picture

[eager mulch]

put on your glasses

[weary gust]

kaleidoscope glasses

[whole crypt]

just have 60000 spec cores ez

[eager mulch]

real

we got implac rerun just get dupes fr (using tickets)

[rapid grail]

factual

[eager mulch]

too bad implac is special pool, can’t get a surprise amagi-chan

[north wharf]

Impla won't be permapity?

[whole crypt]

not yet this is just rerun, perm will be another year later

[north wharf]

Oh this is first rerun? Damn I lose track of time so quickly

[north wharf]

Is this a lot or not?

[whole crypt]

newer players probably struggle with it
I personally have over double that 🙃

[north wharf]

Alright yeah, I also have over double so I was wondering if I was wasting resources or something

[whole crypt]

it's basically not an issue for 👴
it's the catchup that's the problem

[north wharf]

Also not sure this is the right place but, how can I help my guild get more applications? It's been dead quiet there for the last year I think and I have plenty of space

Is it due to general inactivity from guild members on average (like two thirds hasn't logged in in over a year)

[wind hazel]

advertise your guild

[cobalt rapids]

you can make a recruitment post in #1246721562741178410

[north wharf]

I got tons of apps at some point, so I was just wondering if I could do something without needing to advertise, cause lazy, but thanks I'll try it I guess

[tropic tusk]

is this one good?

[forest palm]

for a BB Aux? sure, for an actual CL? no

[tropic tusk]

bb aux as in bb's gun?

[whole crypt]

part of it is the game isn't seeing large influxes of new players so you're not really going to be expecting to see a lot of applications show up

[forest palm]

secondary gun, but ya

[tropic tusk]

ok 3q

just saw it on the upcoming war archive

[north wharf]

That's rough..

[whole crypt]

it's coming to 8th anniversary on CN this May, we're kind of in a stable state

[rapid grail]

speaking as a guild officer (then) and guild leader (now), def yes. in general it's pretty hard to find active players among the new bloods

like there's genuinely a great disconnect in new players between 2023/24 and me rejoining this year...

shit just happens. all you can do is foster a guild culture and then incorporating new players to that... worked well in mine

[forest palm]

155 Kai, and Quad 152 exist so this gun got dumpstered

[tropic tusk]

rip so no need to farm

[lofty garnet]

when I have nj fully unlocked, is it good to build her 2nd time? can I use her in 2 fleets in a sortie?

[cobalt rapids]

dupes arent worth build

[lofty garnet]

so I should just retire them?

[tropic tusk]

unless shes ur wifu otherwies just throw them

[cobalt rapids]

retire or just keep for trophy

[north wharf]

I'll have to try that, the guild was created in like 2020 with one joining me, then in 2022 we suddenly filled up in a month and now I have a guild discord with 2/3 active members which is somewhat reflected in game

[north wharf]

Me with my 15 Algerié's

[tropic tusk]

so far i have 4 unicorn thats retrofit + oath

and 125

[north wharf]

Oh damn I do not level/oath or nothing with them, just clone harem

[tropic tusk]

im now waiting a special event so i can have my lvl 1 unicorn go to 100% aff so i can oath that lvl 1 also

[stoic forge]

What's the best way to grind the gear upgrade thing

[sharp socket]

upgrade good gear

[north wharf]

Wait how do you raise to 100 affection with no levels?

[stoic forge]

No like

[sharp socket]

you mean gear lab?

[stoic forge]

This thinf

[plain saffron]

secretary slowly increase your affinity until 90 max, some event buffs bypass 90 max cap

[turbid marsh]

some collab event raises your aff to 100 when in secretary

[plain saffron]

it can go up to 200

[sharp socket]

just spend oil on like 12-4 and you'll get enough eventually

[stoic forge]

I am in 8-3

[north wharf]

I never knew about the event thing, only about the cap

[plain saffron]

just farm highest you can and keep pushing

[sharp socket]

at some point you run out of lack of purple plates in about a year of playing

[plain saffron]

alternatively, event D stages is a good source of purple plate, better than main campaign even

i still need aux purple plates

[stoic forge]

There is no event for me currently

[plain saffron]

ther will be tomorrow

[sharp socket]

how many +10 toolkits do you have nagami

[stoic forge]

I may aswell wait for it

[eager mulch]

how many +11 toolkits do you have nagami

[forest palm]

if you're old you have over 50 easily

[tropic tusk]

now U know time to work on Ur wifu

[north wharf]

15 Level 1 oathed waifu harem time

[tropic tusk]

Don't think U will have enough time to 100 aff on 15 in 1 event tho

But I like that attitude

[north wharf]

Its about mindset, who cares if it's possible

How bad of a purchase is 6th dorm slot?

[cobalt rapids]

rly bad for f2p

[north wharf]

Not really f2p, but also not whale

[atomic abyss]

Extremely bad
It's like 1.2k gems

[north wharf]

Just tired of having to wait for 1 ship out of 6 to recover mood

[cobalt rapids]

u can use 2nd floor

[atomic abyss]

That's almost 1 high end l2d

[cobalt rapids]

thats why its bad because 3 slots on floor 1 + 3 slots on floor 2 fit 1 fleet

[north wharf]

How much is the second floor?

[atomic abyss]

500 gems iirc
And it doubles the number of slots you have

[north wharf]

And do I have to buy more slots on second floor too?

Okay, and no EXP gain there right?

[rigid onyx]

it mirrors the number of slots on floor 1, and only morale

[atomic abyss]

No exp but faster morale

[north wharf]

So put leveling ships on first floor and other grinding ships on second?

[rigid onyx]

you can yeah

[cobalt rapids]

i mean considering u have 6+6 now yea

[north wharf]

I have 5 slots currently

[cobalt rapids]

ah right
then 5+1 and use the rest of f1 for xp

or dont, its negligible

[rigid onyx]

eh it's fairly sizable actually

[north wharf]

Anything helps right?

[rigid onyx]

it saves me a lot of xp books if I need to get a skip to l90 to start grinding

[keen sable]

The xp gain on the second floor is higher than non sortie first floor. If you use it of course.

[sharp socket]

it is in fact a high end l2d
and also 60 dockspace

[north wharf]

Wait I'm confused, I thought there was no xp on second floor?

Or does it affect sortie exp rates?

[keen sable]

Morale bonus is far higher than any passive xp you might be dreaming of.

[wind hazel]

he meant ships on 2nd floor will get higher exp if you sortie with them, vs exp gained in dorm at first floor. it's a very misleading statement

and if you sortie with 1st floor ships, you get even more!! insane

[north wharf]

Ah thats what you mean, yeah I would sortie with them as well either way. I just wanted to know how I could keep my moods high in the most effective manner

[rose cosmos]

How much is that implacable skin gonna cost

[boreal wagon]

980 gems

[keen sable]

Mob in second. Boss in first. You can rotate boss out if micro. Alternatively you can use boss for mob periodically. Can sustain something like 4 mob as mob 2 boss as mob every hour.

[rose cosmos]

Damn I need 200 more then

[north wharf]

Wouldn't you want to put your leveling ships in your mob fleet and then first floor for max xp gain?

[keen sable]

No, morale bonus is far more than any passive xp when using max sustainable morale. Obviously if you sortie only once a day xp gain is basically nothing (from all sources)

[eager mulch]

I’d like my mob to last longer to get sortie xp rather than cringe dorm xp

[whole crypt]

cringe dorm XP is good I don't need to use the max affinity ships

[north wharf]

Okay but unless you are grinding to the point that the morale recovery matters between the two floors, you are just losing XP by not using first floor dorm, no?

I mean I have some oil to spend but I don't tend to run more than ~10 10-4 clears currently so I fail to see how that helps me

[eager mulch]

running 10-4

[north wharf]

I'm leveling for a reason man

One day I'll graduate

[rigid onyx]

are you commander level locked or something

[stone sluice]

Up to whether you don’t mind spending money.
Having 6 slots on both 1st and 2nd floor let me grind and rush it during events.
You don’t need it.
Some people do 1:1 fleets during some events. You can do full fleets runs to gain exp specially on oil cap stages.

[north wharf]

No I'm grinding Nakhimov with a sub optimal backline since I haven't leveled much of NP or Sardegna ships, and the VG is level ~100 Z52 Sandy-kai and Laffey II, not exactly 12-4 material

[rigid onyx]

that is much more than 12-4 material

[whole crypt]

allow me to introduce 12-1

[soft raft]

also W12 doesnt have suicide boats as a major threat

[north wharf]

Maybe if I ever have gems to spare I'll try

[whole crypt]

10 is a very large drop in XP from 11

[north wharf]

I tried running 12-4 and ate shit, so maybe I should try 12-1 then

[whole crypt]

and honestly if you have Sandy retrofit and Laffey II at around 100 you should just plow straight through 12-1

assuming they're properly geared

[north wharf]

Uhhh... define 'proper'

[rigid onyx]

level 10 and not stupid

[north wharf]

Mostly 2nd and 3rd rate gear options

[bold surge]

12-4 is easy if you bring CV's, AA and a vanguard with some survivability. Ships above lvl 100 would work too.

[north wharf]

Soyuz at level 105, Volga at like 86 and Marco Polo at 125 is my main, all 2nd or 3rd rate gear at +10

[rigid onyx]

could just be not air supremacy ig

[whole crypt]

superiority is enough but gearing

[bold surge]

gear is important. Also, 2 BB 1 CV can work if they are giga strong. If not, it might be better to use 1 healer in mob fleet.

[whole crypt]

besides volga being a bit under Soyuz and MP should be fine if they're MLB/dev30+

[north wharf]

Also for buying gems, is it worth waiting for event or is just buying whatever double value gem pack I can afford fine?

[whole crypt]

basically no event is going to give you better value than double

[north wharf]

Soyuz is 0LB I forgot to mention

[rigid onyx]

don't bring a l125 healer carry and sacrifice efficiency, and he already has gold volga

[whole crypt]

that is your problem

[bold surge]

double is the best thing ever. Resets once a year

[rigid onyx]

lb0 soy shouldn't be an issue in 12-4

[whole crypt]

ironically you'll probably get more xp running 12-4 with 2 ships than ch10 with 3

if you don't have a good third ship that is

[north wharf]

I just realized my gear is not all +10, whoops

[whole crypt]

also... do you actually have 513 nakhimov prints

[bold surge]

guns and AA at +10 is priority

[north wharf]

I have spread lies on the internet

[forest palm]

well that certainly can be detrimental

[north wharf]

Like 50

[whole crypt]

then don't bother rushing

[hushed sorrel]

also depens with your currency. i was really disappointed as some (with €) are 1:1 and some are more expensive with the exchange rate... completly weird if you ask me

[whole crypt]

just 1-2 ships and slowly grind the XP

[rigid onyx]

lb0 URs are better than half of gold ships mlbd, it's just that it's not recommended for new players because you can access good gold ships easily enough

[whole crypt]

nakhimov isn't going to be usable even if you rush her XP now

[rigid onyx]

from a farming perspective lb0 URs are actually decently strong

[whole crypt]

I mean if you're comparing with outdated rubbish SRs sure

[rigid onyx]

and outdated rubbish ships are fine in 12-4

safe 12-4

[bold surge]

I farm elite ships in 12-4

[north wharf]

Yeah spending € in AL feels very off sometimes

[boreal wagon]

prices in game are before tax, before vendor cut and discrepancies are almost always the vendors fault

[whole crypt]

VAT is shit 🙃

anyway try 12-1 but I still don't really recommend being overinvested in a 0LB soyuz

[hushed sorrel]

when the 10bucks gems cost 10€ and the 5bucks gems cost 6€ thats just bullshit

[boreal wagon]

its tax + google/apple cut

• google/apple determined exchange rate

[north wharf]

Alright will try, and I mostly just wanna finish my grind so I can grab Anchorage since I learned that I am a dummy for not having her yet

[hushed sorrel]

you say that but it would be the same for the 10bucks gems but it isnt!

[boreal wagon]

yes because thats how google and apple work

they randomly take a loss on some items and randomly not on others

the price of the same item can even change from today to tomorrow

welcome to the world of vendor driven pricing

[hushed sorrel]

lets stop speaking about that. it will not help us. :I

[whole crypt]

isn't platform costs like in the range of 30% or some shit

[boreal wagon]

up to

it varries per item decided at what feels like random

[plain saffron]

buy from them directly

[eager mulch]

farm commissions for gem

[plain saffron]

||2-1 mentioned??||

[eager mulch]

or do the sekrit strategy for gem

[iron lily]

should/how high should I level this?

[eager mulch]

7

[left cedar]

this should be used only by cruisers ... not by BBs, BCs, CVs, DDs ...

[forest palm]

it's extremely rare that BBs, and CVs need extra HP, or EVA

[eager mulch]

what would mebot say

[forest palm]

let'em out the basement

[tame jungle]

he would say Hello Turtle

[full drum]

can i collect it with lv 32 and how?

[eager mulch]

can’t, event is over

[full drum]

ah understand

[plain saffron]

rn this is before 19/3 though

[eager mulch]

fuck circled the wrong thing

[tame jungle]

this is before march 19th 23:59 but yes the event ran until march 12th

[eager mulch]

wdym

[plain saffron]

nice delete

[eager mulch]

[full drum]

thats why i get no event points

[eager mulch]

yes
no event = no event point

[tame jungle]

you also don't get many event points if you're not doing the event maps (which are not even available when there's no event)

[plain saffron]

mods someone being toxic

[eager mulch]

he doesn’t deny it

[iron lily]

okay, what do I actually do against planes early on? I'm getting stuck on 4-4 because the planes just shred my pennsylvania to death

[wind hazel]

what are you using? could be number of reasons

from ship status to their level to their gear, or combination

[eager mulch]

limit breaks, levels, gear, team comp

[iron lily]

for AA, only the AA guns matter, right? And I have only 1 star ones, any way to obtain better ones there?

[novel solstice]

Carriers with fighters also help in shooting down enemy aircraft.

[keen sable]

Avoid them

[ivory pawn]

Get better AA guns the same way you get any better gear that early: open all the purple+ techboxes you can get.

[iron lily]

so boost avoid stat on my BB?

[tame jungle]

no, don't fight cv nodes

[stiff isle]

In terms of 'Bossing' who's better? Fritz or Implacable? I wanna MLB one of them. (I'll get Implacable with the rerun)

[worldly pewter]

fritz comp will still need some kind of a debuffer

[stiff isle]

Like Helena? For instance?

[eternal moth]

No, like Implacable

[worldly pewter]

no like implacable or avp

[stiff isle]

So I can use them both? Implacable with Fritz?

Now I just need more Bulins /cry

[worldly pewter]

for now just wait until u know what u want to do

but most likely if u don't have nakhi u want implacable

[thorny basalt]

I forget, is the Chinese server on level 15 hornet meta now?

[worldly pewter]

[eternal moth]

Should be I think

[worldly pewter]

jp will have 15 in 17 min

[thorny basalt]

Has any comps come out yet for it? I just struggled to one shot level 14

[worldly pewter]

i used triple ijn like a noob
2 scans got me to 1x bar left

[wind hazel]

soy frit nakh z52 kaz ply still working so far

got like ~10hp bar before 3rd strike

[thorny basalt]

I used Zwei Vanguard Alsace and got her with 1 second on my last try. Used Plymouth Z52 Unzen frontline

Vanguard in the top slot for Z52s skill

[remote nacelle]

Pretty niche but... does anyone know if there's a guide for Project Identity v2.0 Oceana/Navi? I found a few for TB, but not for Oceana/Navi.

[eternal moth]

I'm using Soy Fritz Nakh as well, I'll let you know how it goes once I get there

[thorny basalt]

I tried using a carrier backline in one attempt but I wasn't very successful. I wasn't taking it seriously enough and didn't have good frontliners for it and also I'm lacking carrier fleet tech I think so battleship backlines do better for me

[cobalt rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488 idk but theres a dedicated thread to the gamemode

[cobalt rapids]

la9 📈 📈 📈

[left cedar]

i have only 3 La-9 +13, but i'm going for FdG 500k objective

[eternal moth]

13/50 on number 3 😦

[thorny basalt]

I have two of those, probably not enough

[ember totem]

i hope 3 of them is enough

[tame jungle]

best i can do is 1

[eternal moth]

I'm hoping 2 is

[thorny basalt]

Getting the prints for those is the bane of my existence. I spent 2.5 weeks on 47/50 prints for my second one.

[worldly pewter]

why are u hardcoring farming for la9 prints then use a BB fleet for the meta fight

[whole crypt]

was there anything in notes besides rerun

[thorny basalt]

I did

[eternal moth]

Rerun and WA

[whole crypt]

so no

[cobalt rapids]

wen smth isnt enough then =>

[cobalt rapids]

im glad its still light outside

[eternal moth]

No new augments or anything though

[thorny basalt]

Speaking of augments I read the Massachusetts one was trash, is that right?

[cobalt rapids]

not trash

[eternal moth]

It gives her a barrage, so automatically better than some

[thorny basalt]

Figures, I saw people on the subreddit calling it bad.

[cobalt rapids]

prob best to stay away from redit

[thorny basalt]

That's why I took it with a grain of salt

[cobalt rapids]

but they could also mean that the agument isnt saving the ship which is true

[inland shoal]

I mean it's not great, but yeah at least it's better than purple (most of the time)

[nimble knoll]

[woven star]

If I'm not claim fully research ship because I don't want filled ship dock slot. Am I miss something important? I mean I have some other pr, dr ships for upgrading them to dv30. As for example Mainz fully research but not claimed

[eternal moth]

Fleet tech

[stark quiver]

tech and collection

[woven star]

Ah. Good. It's not important now as dock slots for me

[whole crypt]

[stark quiver]

might have to level bristol for this fight

[cobalt rapids]

[ember totem]

[eternal moth]

Try Kaza insatead of Unzen, ARA might get you there

[turbid marsh]

almost 12am in cn gonna decide on whether to keep helena or not XD

[whole crypt]

stig's math is unzen adds more than kaza including ARA

[cobalt rapids]

i mean it make sense
its 2 cv and kaza on med

[stark quiver]

benson moment

[whole crypt]

that said I'm missing 4th La-9 and 2 rainbow weapons stuck at +12

[wind hazel]

looks like it isn't as easy as it sound

[cobalt rapids]

once again my girl unzen is making it to a showdown
ca relevancy 2025

[bold surge]

Are we trying to figure out how to 1 shot Hornet META?

[whole crypt]

latter part damage tapers a lot from eva I guess

[wind hazel]

is this with nakh tb? or breguet

did you keep concealment

[whole crypt]

why would you use burger

[wind hazel]

syncing and intercept

[whole crypt]

yes always

[cobalt rapids]

to mitigate more slips

[wind hazel]

i lost concealment at lv14 today lol

[cobalt rapids]

me too
but it had 8 bars left anyway

[whole crypt]

2 +13 57s and 2 +10 76s

[wind hazel]

p2w can't 1shot (for now), what hope is there for f2p

[tame jungle]

nakhimov augment

[cobalt rapids]

8 bars after 2nd airstrike

[whole crypt]

I'm not exactly p2w

[viscid swift]

has anyone tried triple 457s yet?

[whole crypt]

.......

[cobalt rapids]

you try mr triple +13 457

[bold surge]

bruh