gameplay-help

[worldly pewter]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology
in the middle there is a table that u can scroll through all the factions
the bottom ones are the heaviest ones

these are the non ur with an exception of one in disguise

[onyx chasm]

Is there a way to make the background black like that

[worldly pewter]

dark reader

[onyx chasm]

Where do I get that? Is it a setting or

[worldly pewter]

plugin

[jaunty vault]

roon ig

[jaunty vault]

if you have chrome, there's expiremental settings you could play with for the dark mode without any plugins

[onyx chasm]

I'm gx

Do i want to bother levelling all these units up to MLB them or nah

Also If I have copies of the same ship will I still get tech points?

[atomic abyss]

you mlb the ships you are using

[onyx chasm]

I've MLB basically all of them

[atomic abyss]

you do not get more tech points for dupes
they are more a milestone counter

[onyx chasm]

Hm

[atomic abyss]

then focus on your main team first

unless you mean for tech?

[onyx chasm]

They are all MLB

[atomic abyss]

to unlock kearsage or sth?

[onyx chasm]

Anchorage

I'm closest to her

[worldly pewter]

μ and mini don't give tech be careful
mlb the rest of the purples and retire dupes when the original is already at mlb

[atomic abyss]

limit break san diego, and some of the purple and below rarity US ships

probably try to limit break arizona after san diego

[onyx chasm]

I'm gonna MLB since she gives more overall

[onyx chasm]

What mini?

[worldly pewter]

little

[onyx chasm]

Ah

So a bunch of these I need to throw in dorms then

[worldly pewter]

read again i think u have missed the point

[onyx chasm]

I need to get them to level 70 to MLB them so yh

[worldly pewter]

usually with enough activity u can insta lvl 70 them with exp books

don't dorm them

use the dorm for the fleet that u are sorting

[onyx chasm]

I mean I managed to get a decent amount but at the same time I had to awaken a bunch of my main ships so yh

[onyx chasm]

Reason I'm using dorm for the lower level ships is cuz they level up a lot faster as lvl 31s then 100+ so by the time my main ships need to be awakened they'll most likely be high enough level for the other tech points

[worldly pewter]

k let me explain to u the most efficient way to do it
dorm the 6 ships that u are using while the 3 lowest levels in the 1st floor and the other 3 in the second floor
sortie when they are at 150 moral for 20% more exp which is roughly 17% oil efficiency
level the lecture hall as higher as u can and generate the books from there to level the tech fodders

[onyx chasm]

I don't have a second floor

Idk how to get it

[jaunty vault]

[eager mulch]

[soft raft]

fully expand the first floor then it'll let you buy 2nd floor

[onyx chasm]

Is it worth getting?

[soft raft]

yee
esp if you grind alot
3 slots on 1st floor + 2nd floor is enough to slot a full fleet

[onyx chasm]

What theme should I use for the second floor

[soft raft]

that's completely up to you

none of us have a say in how you decorate your own dorm

[onyx chasm]

I'm just looking for whichever give the most points

[soft raft]

doesnt matter
furniture still gives comfort points whether it's actually placed in the dorm or not

If that wasnt the case, it frankly would've made the dorm customization moot for people who want to min-max comfort

[onyx chasm]

Hm, so wait how do I make this second floor thing work? Cuz I have all of my main ships on the 1st floor but I don't see the train option on the second floor

Oh wait

Am I just putting the 3 lowest ships in 2nd floor to restore morale?

[soft raft]

sure
technically at the end it doesnt really matter that much
since once you do it long enough, the only diff is that 2nd floor has faster morale regen at the tradeoff of no XP Gain

So it more becomes like whoever needs XP is put on the 1st floor while the rest are on the 2nd

[onyx chasm]

Ah ok

So whilst all this is happening I should start researching someone else? Reason I ask is cuz my main fleet mainly consists of eagle union and sakura and like 1 iron blood so the exp collection for roon will take ages

And is there a stage I wanna grind out in the mean time to farm exp

[soft raft]

dont bother too much with research until like at earliest W9, ideally W12 (Mainly cuz W12 is the go-to farming spot)

Oil cap also starts at W9 so that's a decent time to start grinding as well

[onyx chasm]

W9? I'm currently half way through chapter 7

[soft raft]

yup

if you aint there yet, then simply the highest stage you can comftorably clear

[onyx chasm]

Alr

Also do I wanna bother farming ships?

[soft raft]

No not really

[onyx chasm]

Is that the same with war archives?

[soft raft]

only Yuudachi has much relevant value but even then I didnt get her until I could 1:1 W6

And even then, Yuudachi retro has been powercrept a good amount

[onyx chasm]

Cuz I saw that I can gain some SR ships from there or smth

Also does any of this even do anything?

[soft raft]

Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Go give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[whole stump]

This one good for laffey?

Also do the free pulls also require coins for next event

[jaunty vault]

no

[whole stump]

Hmm I’m 0 gold if I craft that I should probably save

[jaunty vault]

it is good for laffey but it doesn't look like it is good for you

[whole stump]

Does that gear make a huge difference

[jaunty vault]

it makes a significant difference for laffey

[onyx chasm]

Where can I do this

[vale spindle]

if you go to a PR1,2,3 ship within shipyard and use up all their prints, you have the option to select more prints to add at the cost of coins

[onyx chasm]

Hm

[vale spindle]

theres more now too the guide is outdated a bit

[onyx chasm]

Also where can I acquire shouhou

[onyx chasm]

Ah ok

[turbid marsh]

shouhou? as in the blue-->retrofit that you can grab in like 2-3?

[vale spindle]

guild shop -> rare ship -> select her

[onyx chasm]

Do I wanna do this cuz I don't see the Coins exchange option

[ivory pawn]

No.

[vale spindle]

do you own the ship (as in, have them in your dock)?

[onyx chasm]

No

[vale spindle]

you need to fully complete all the initial requirements to be able to coin exchange

[onyx chasm]

Damn

[vale spindle]

cause thats when you get the physical ship unit that you can use in fleets and stuff

and you can only enhance / upgrade / do normal ship stuff to ships you have in your dock

[whole stump]

Then what did you mean by it doesn’t look good for me? Just because of the cost?

[onyx chasm]

With this feature, if I was to research gold or purples would I get more progress

[jaunty vault]

cost and the fact that you don't seem to have any blue/purple augments/ aug mats

[whole stump]

Oh, is there other gear that takes priority over that one?

[jaunty vault]

also laffey is a ship you will get over sooner than later

do your daily raids and save for now

[onyx chasm]

What should I buy from there

[jaunty vault]

i think there's an augment guide in the compendium so you should read that

[vale spindle]

na it doesn't matter thats permanent and you are guaranteed at least 1 print / research that goes towards it, so just pick the researches based on whether its good or not, not to max the catchup progress since its permanent theres no rush

[vale spindle]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[onyx chasm]

Do any of these count as good CVs?

[jaunty vault]

unicorn is healer so only three but that should be enough for independence to not be highest prio

not saying that unicorn cannot do any damage

[onyx chasm]

Yh i was asking so that I could get the type 1 for amagi

[jaunty vault]

akagi cannot equip it

you don't even have her

[onyx chasm]

Sorry meant another sakura

[jaunty vault]

[onyx chasm]

Wait so what type of ppl can equip it

Musashi right?

[stark quiver]

White shell?
Battleships

[gilded shale]

Is there anything to farm in chapter 13?

[stark quiver]

Bunker hill in 13-4

[jaunty vault]

coins and cognitive chips

and some rare ships

[jaunty vault]

musashi is a battleship, so yes

[woven star]

Technically unicorn cvl but let it be

[jaunty vault]

[onyx chasm]

How do I get these materials

[woven star]

Operation siren (opsi)

[gilded shale]

Is there anything hard about chapter 13?

[stark quiver]

There’s more planes

[storm heron]

enemy akashi and sandy

[onyx chasm]

Do i wanna use her over baltimore?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[onyx chasm]

Alr

[jaunty vault]

unless your balti is max lb

[gilded shale]

Is sandy retro enough or should I invest even more in carriers?

[sweet delta]

Yes, but do you have other ships you'd want to use over Carl?

[onyx chasm]

From looking at the tier list she's the best I have in terms of CA

[sweet delta]

Not all CAs have the same role

[stark quiver]

3 cv back line

[onyx chasm]

I mean alr but she's still shown to be the only better ship than balti

But I do have st louis

[sweet delta]

I mean there are DDs and CLs that do Carl's job better. But upon reviewing your images, I'd say to use Carl

[onyx chasm]

And bremerton and pola

I'll show who i have rq

[woven star]

Carl looks strong. Good stats. Better tank than Eugen

[sweet delta]

Yea you use Carl, she will help farm aegir too

[onyx chasm]

Alr

[woven star]

And maybe CA gun better than CB for Carl. Faster reload and her skill needs it

[onyx chasm]

hm

anyone else i want to focus on to switch

[woven star]

Saint Louis dps ship against light enemies. Idk what else

[sweet delta]

No good enough candidates to replace z23 and Bremerton yet

Sandy is next but costs a lot of purins

[gilded shale]

Assuming if I got bunker hill, should I still farm at 13-4?

[jaunty vault]

w12 is better for regular farming

13-4 still has better coin/oil

[bitter cosmos]

any good suggestion on emulator on pc for azurlane? google play games beta dont have it

[woven star]

Why do you have two Helena? One enough but need retro her

Btw FuShun good too but need retro item and some investment

[honest stirrup]

It also has better exp/oil
I've calculated 141 exp/oil by clearing 13-4, 130 for 12-4
Both were taken with the worst case scenario of having small fleets

... sure

[sweet delta]

13 has lower exp per oil than 12, even if your whole fleet can use the exp

[honest stirrup]

how

[sweet delta]

Simple maths

[turbid marsh]

where is that graph

[shell willow]

i use mumuplayer, runs way better than ldplayer4 or 9 on my pc

[sweet delta]

/wiki user:suchiguma/auto

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suchiguma/AutoSearch

[sweet delta]

Here is more complicated "math"

[honest stirrup]

what is "simulated oil cost"

[sweet delta]

Read the section above

[honest stirrup]

Oh ok it's total oil nvm

[sweet delta]

Even if you assume the boss never gets blocked, 12 is more exp/oil than 13

[storm heron]

which one should I get first, houston2, yuudachi, or kaga?

[woven star]

Noone?

[honest stirrup]

Why is the mob exp/oil ratio so low?

[sweet delta]

It's per ship

[honest stirrup]

ok

[sweet delta]

Total Exp/Oil - average ship experience per oil per ship, not including bonuses from MVP, flagship, S rank, or morale

[polar lion]

Kaga +1 avi

[sweet delta]

Which of Bartolomeo Colleoni's skills should you Max first?

[storm heron]

red skill prob

[weary gust]

Is this a trick question?

Why are you using Bartolomeo

[sweet delta]

Which of [irrelevant tech ship]'s skills should you Max first?

[polar lion]

None

[onyx chasm]

Is there like a page on here that tells me what a ship is good at

[forest palm]

do people think we max the skills of the ships we Lv 120 for tech? cause we don't

[woven star]

From last event except Raff only Doria have some good stuff. Imo

[sweet delta]

/tierlist Samvaluation has some ships on it but is not updated since 6 months ago, or you can check endgame tier list

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[honest stirrup]

I'm sorry but I still don't understand
You've indicated 2.98 exp/oil in 13-4 boss fleet
Base exp for that battle is 1168, so even by dividing by 60*6, it makes 3.2

(It also doesn't quite make sense to divide by number of ships since everyone gets 1168 base exp so maybe I just really don't understand how to read your chart at all)

[sweet delta]

It's the boss exp divided by one sortie's cost

[honest stirrup]

?????

[sweet delta]

That's my line

[honest stirrup]

I mean, sure ok

[sweet delta]

How did you get that 13 is more exp/oil than 12 ?

I've never seen anyone else claim that

[jaunty vault]

weird looks were given to me for not levelling tech fodder skills by #trophy-room

[honest stirrup]

(798/46)*7+(1168/60)

Same calculation was then done on 12-4

[sweet delta]

Why are you dividing by each individual battle then adding them up? Then you're averaging the averages, not actually combining mob and boss

[honest stirrup]

What averages?

[honest stirrup]

It's
([base small fleet exp] / [mob oil cost]) * [mob number] + ([boss exp] / [boss oil cost])

[sweet delta]

And that's wrong because you're averaging the exp/oil of each battle, instead of taking the exp/oil of the whole sortie

You're overweighting 13-4 to mobs and discounting the boss because it has 7 mob battles

[honest stirrup]

How is that any different if you're bound to have 7 mobs thus having 7 exp/oil ratio worth of battles and 1 boss in every case?

[forest palm]

if only Suchi would properly explain

[boreal wagon]

i dont think that comment helps the situation

[ivory pawn]

Are you saying he should be doing ([mob exp] x 7 + [boss exp]) / total oil?

Huh, I'm actually amazed I got it in one.

[sweet delta]

What I said here basically

[viscid swift]

yeah

boss battle will drag down the numbers to some degree

[ivory pawn]

I'm guessing the issue is he forgot that even just entering the zone costs a bit of oil.

[honest stirrup]

Thanks

[sweet delta]

That's another issue

[viscid swift]

yep

[sweet delta]

Forgetting the 10 oil actually favors 12

[cobalt rapids]

math summoned mebot

[slow fox]

If you wanted a slightly more accurate methodology, you can (instead of taking the total sum) of your averages - you can take the weighted average on battles fought.

It's still wrong though, but by very little this time./

[forest palm]

we getting fancy

[honest stirrup]

Yeah I forgot to divide by 8 on each

[slow fox]

But it's wrong by less than the LCK contribution to ship performance when FS5, so that's good enough for me.

[woven star]

lol no differences

[honest stirrup]

not sure what you mean by this

[storm heron]

stat be like

[jaunty vault]

are you saying you tolerate error 🧐

[slow fox]

Yeah

[polar lion]

But 5 luck gives 1% offense and defense

[honest stirrup]

He's a physician confirmed

[jaunty vault]

isn't it 10

[forest palm]

the goal is to minimize the amount of errors to get the best possible answer

[slow fox]

Between 3 and 5% depending on the EVAtank-ness of the ship in question.

[woven star]

[mob xp]/[mob oil] x 7 + [boss xp]/[boss oil] same as ([mob xp] x7 + [boss xp])/(mob oil x 7 + boss). seems here in chat ppl have a lot problems with math calculations. btw +10 oil every stage

[forest palm]

ya the luck can be rather noticeable, especially for BBs like FdG

[viscid swift]

you are literally failing basic math....

[slow fox]

This is

[viscid swift]

let me get a sheet of paper....\

[honest stirrup]

It's not the same

[tame jungle]

is he trolling

[honest stirrup]

Btw, if anything, +10 oil should favour chap 13, where you spend more oil for greater rewards per battle, reuducing the impact the 10 has on each battle compared to chap 12

[woven star]

ok agree my bad

[honest stirrup]

You really didn't need to do that

[sweet delta]

That's also what I said,
Forgetting the 10 oil cost favors 12.
Therefore, remembering the 10 oil cost favors 13

[storm heron]

that's wild

[honest stirrup]

man I don't know if it's a me problem but I can hardly understand anything you say, not that the english is technically wrong but there are simpler and straighter-to-the-point ways to explain things

[slow fox]

It's not a you problem

[jaunty vault]

its not a you problem

[storm heron]

yeah it's not a you problem lmao

[slow fox]

Suchi is such a min-maxxer that he little word get point good

[tame jungle]

ngl i also misread it

[jaunty vault]

i only read gitgud

[sweet delta]

Idk, it's a simple inversion

[jaunty vault]

bros flexing his braincells

[viscid swift]

anyway

W13 is not more efficient for XP than W12, moving on

[jaunty vault]

w12

[storm heron]

W2 lmao

[narrow arch]

Is trieste good

[stark quiver]

no

[viscid swift]

no

[narrow arch]

Damn

[viscid swift]

she is CA FP tech though

[polar lion]

Cheeky, how u lvl 12 ships in 12-1?

[sweet delta]

I think she was good for BB fleet against strength

[stark quiver]

huh, js have the ships at an average of like lvl 100 with good gear

[viscid swift]

uhh, I try to give them all decent, if I have them to spare I'll give them all the best

back then I also tried to be tactical about which ships to level when, like I would hold back some of the tankier ships so the could main tank in the boss fleet for a while

[stark quiver]

i usually put a aa carry in boss flet tho, cuz they hold the highest amt of shitty ships
and i dont care abt frontline exp

[viscid swift]

heck, some ships got to 120 almost solely from XP earned in the boss fleet

otherwise, just the usual fleet building principles honestley

there was nothing particularly special about it

[astral oar]

is twin 100 type 98 is good aa gun?

[viscid swift]

the purple thing? it's ok as a transitional AA gun

[astral oar]

ah wait i mean the Twin 100mm AA (Type 98)

[stark quiver]

its ok i guess

[viscid swift]

the first one?

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_100mm_AA_(Type_98) this one

[astral oar]

yes this one

[viscid swift]

it's a slightly worse Roomba

[sweet delta]

I do think I answered this yesterday

[astral oar]

worse than a gold rhoomba or purple rhoomba?

[stark quiver]

gold

[viscid swift]

gold roomba

[astral oar]

nice

also what efficacy rate AA carries typically at?

[viscid swift]

there's no particular number

[slow fox]

AA chart mentioned

[astral oar]

is this thing good?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/High_Performance_Anti-Air_Radar

[undone plover]

do I want this on gangut?

[stark quiver]

yes but it honestly doesnt matter when ur farming

[sweet delta]

Rarely
I think I answered this yesterday too

[stark quiver]

~~today is yesterday sushi, snap back to reality ~~

[astral oar]

i didnt see the reply

[polar lion]

My fleet problem was inconsistent out of ammo battles especially vs 3 star mobs if the mob fleet doesn't have at least 1 CV in backline

[stark quiver]

are you fighting boss with mob too

[viscid swift]

yeah theres a reason why I avoid leveling 3 BBs in one fleet

[polar lion]

And TaihoM is at lvl119 now so she will be done anytime soon. No, boss fleet don't hav problem even without CV

[stark quiver]

ive done that, nevada, oklahoma, lb0 uvh, and id say, never do that please

[cobalt rapids]

do u have that many backlines left to lvl that u need to run 6 at a time ?

[polar lion]

I just don't hav CVs to lvl

[stark quiver]

bring a AA carry

[cobalt rapids]

aa carry in 12-1

[stark quiver]

or run better aa idk

[storm heron]

just don't run insanely bad fleet

[cobalt rapids]

give them ur best gear and cats

[polar lion]

But but my DD rld tech grind

[viscid swift]

simple solution then

cut down to leveling 2 main fleets at a time and run a repair ship as the 3rd main fleet

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

but yeah that's why I prioritized doing BBs tech first

[storm heron]

they dont have cvs to level right

[viscid swift]

3 CVs is a lot easier to drag than 3 BBs in W12

[cobalt rapids]

or run unicorn and up the world to 13

[stark quiver]

should 3 gold bbs be fine

[polar lion]

Well, I've been running 13-1 before with Unikai but then only 11 ships lvling. The temptation of 12 ships lvling is catching on me

[storm heron]

you don't even need unikai for 13-4 farming honestly u probably do if you're using tech shitters but like might as well do 12

[cobalt rapids]

im running 1-2 maxed backliners and im still outpacing backliners release

[viscid swift]

try and see what happens

[cobalt rapids]

unless ure made out of cogs i wouldnt worry if ure nearing the backline finale

[viscid swift]

are you uncapping vanguards?

[polar lion]

U mean mlb?

[viscid swift]

no mean awakening them

[polar lion]

Yea I need them rld tech

[viscid swift]

what I did was when I still had main fleet tech I would only awaken main fleets, I didn't touch any vanguards if they were only for tech until all main fleet tech ships were done

didn't take that long to work through the back log truth be told

[stark quiver]

i dont have 3 gold bbs

[viscid swift]

rip

[stark quiver]

that are at decent levels, bc certified cv tech farmer

[viscid swift]

you could probably make it work but

leveling 6 BBs mean your air space control is gonna be dog water and it'll be more difficult to stagger

you could also try the forbidden technique of AA radars

[polar lion]

I'm liek hovering at around 50k ~ 60k cogs most of the time. I've slacking before for quite some time so now I wanna ketchup back on the pace

[polar lion]

Ooh looks fun

[little tree]

[stark quiver]

Good idea honestly

[cobalt rapids]

<@&460646206851252224>

[storm heron]

interesting

[eternal basalt]

There were rewards for clearing and 3* 13H? Wiki lists none

[harsh gust]

yes

[forest palm]

feel like the wiki hasn't sorted through post 14 content

[eternal basalt]

~~Devs neither, seeing they don't list drops there ingame ~~

[astral oar]

[vale spindle]

The wiki beginner rewards side quest section does say "probably incomplete"

[astral oar]

is there wiki for the story/lore?

[vale spindle]

all in game dialogue except ones paywalled by secrets are on the wiki

[astral oar]

[forest palm]

we have #al-lore

[vale spindle]

secrets could be on the wiki im just not 100% sure on that

[cobalt rapids]

are oath lines not paywalled?

[eternal basalt]

I mean, what's the point without sound

[eternal basalt]

Technically, but those are ingame and in an easy to access file, secrets are dl'ed seperately

[astral oar]

is there a docs for the story/lore

i wanna binge read it

[cobalt rapids]

i see

so it wasnt a morality issue

[eternal basalt]

Again, #al-lore

[woven star]

There is even anime. One season. Never seen after first series. Idk how it's connected to game story/lore

[forest palm]

AL lore is such a mess because it jump cuts to different times with each event

[jaunty vault]

the plot of anime is completely different from that of the game

[viscid swift]

it's not cannon at all

[forest palm]

it's about as good as the KanColle anime

[viscid swift]

I would argue it's worse

[jaunty vault]

atleast i completed the azuzu anime

[woven star]

Yeah, but there was

[harsh gust]

if you would like to discuss AL story - we have #al-lore
if you want to talk about AL anime (or any other anime) - #anime-manga

[forest palm]

[little tree]

[molten solstice]

Which one of these blueprints is good for grosse hutten and bismarck zwei?

If there's any

I just want to maximize their damage potential

[eager mulch]

against what

against what

[stark quiver]

probably the only bb gun
and q152 as secondary

[eager mulch]

buying 11 457mm prints 🧠

[ancient burrow]

#1350606955697279016 message
quick question, if i get implacable, should i put her instead of ark royal?

[eager mulch]

if you can mlb her sure

last i checked implac was better than ark royal

[worldly pewter]

the standard bb guns
mk6 mk7 for light
raff or soy for med
bossing
these aren't in proto
mobbing is usually 457
for heavy there is in the series III proto the 406mm 50mle aka champy gun
soy and flander is usually from pr6 research and not proto

[molten solstice]

I mean, everything

[eager mulch]

stupid cop out answer

[viscid swift]

yes

[eager mulch]

best against everything isn’t a thing

[molten solstice]

Oke let's see,boss fleets

[eager mulch]

against what

opsi or campaign

[molten solstice]

Opsi

[eager mulch]

what armor then

[molten solstice]

My reality check is bigger than ever

[harsh gust]

damage type/armour type modifier is very important so different enemies and situations will always have a different 'best gun'

[molten solstice]

I see...holy shit i haven't studied shipfulogy that good i believe

[ancient condor]

all my research projects are doodoo

[ivory pawn]

Happens sometimes. Either refresh, or take the shortest one that doesn't cost cubes.

[clear harbor]

Should I be trying to keep my research queue full?

What are the ship blueprints for?

[dreamy blade]

bad research is better than no research

[tame jungle]

for the PR ships

[clear harbor]

For upgrades?

Or does it factor into the unlocking process somehow?

[harsh gust]

upgrades

[clear harbor]

I see. Thank you.

[weary gust]

For the record, most PR/DR ships need to be dev30 before they are usable (actually useful in combat), the same as you need to have max limit broken normal ships for them to be usable.

[wide obsidian]

Anyone have a recommended loadout for Ulrich with backup gear?

[storm heron]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home?ship=ulrich_von_hutten

[molten solstice]

Can i find these blue things anywhere?

[stark quiver]

Her crystals aren’t added to meta shop yet
And she was from cruise pass

[clear harbor]

What is dev30?

[sinful escarp]

its the max enhancement of pr/dr ships

[leaden garden]

Are the retrofits of WV, Colo, and Mary good? Honestly i just retrofitted them for the artwork/skins.

[sinful escarp]

pr/dr ships use their blueprints as enhancement materials, like with how other ships use other ships as enhancement material

also pr/dr ships limit breaks are tied to their enhancement

[stone sluice]

Unless you are getting poor due to spending resources on bad research when there’s an event around the corner

[clear harbor]

So whereas "regular" ships aren't really good/usable until they're MLB, these research ships also need to be max developed (dev30) before they're worth putting into one of my fleets?

[leaden garden]

Yes. But i use mine even at dev 10 because i don't have the patience to wait til dev 30

[sinful escarp]

you can use them to level them. what we mean by useable is when they will pull their weight on fleets

[clear harbor]

Makes sense. This is similar to another F2P game I used to play.

[sinful escarp]

also on the topic of research ships, fate sim is a further enhancement.
they also upgrade some of the ship's skill

not all of them have it for now though

iirc agir, pr5-7 DR, and all pr7 doesnt have them yet

[dreamy blade]

but bad research are the ones that dont cost anything like basic or commission

[clear harbor]

What does it mean to be bad in that context? Like low pay out? Coins and cubes are limited for me right now, so I'd much prefer to pay nothing.

[sinful escarp]

takes too long and doesnt give much rewards

[dreamy blade]

but again it's better to take those than to not have any research in the queue at all

[clear harbor]

Cool cool.

[dreamy blade]

but ideally you take Q/rigging research when you have no coins

[clear harbor]

What about O research?

Some one posted a tier list and I didn't see O on it.

[forest palm]

Qs, Ds, Gs, 2hr Es, 1hr Hs those you want especially if you see a UL

[dreamy blade]

O research wait what is that

[forest palm]

there is no O

[clear harbor]

Oh. LOL. Maybe it's a D

[forest palm]

that's D lol

[clear harbor]

Got it.

I would have failed the eyesight test.

[dreamy blade]

oh, those are good for specific ship prints, also called face researches

[buoyant mauve]

Any upcoming banners worth pulling? Prob low but I got like 300 cubes waiting

[sinful escarp]

tbh i get confused by those letters
i just call them face researches and rigging

those are basically the only thing i research

[sinful escarp]

do you have implacable? if not then you want to pull on the next event

[buoyant mauve]

Er who? 👁

[sinful escarp]

the UR nun

her event will rerun after this MT

[buoyant mauve]

O

[sinful escarp]

there are build tickets btw

[buoyant mauve]

Build ticket?

[sinful escarp]

instead of using cube and money to pull, you use those instead

[buoyant mauve]

Oh interesting

[sinful escarp]

there are 44 build tickets for it, which means 44 pulls

[buoyant mauve]

I completely forgot but does pity transfer? Or well how much pulls needed to get a ur in event (s)

[nimble knoll]

It doesn't, iirc

[whole stump]

what should i aim to keep my oil at coming up to the event?

[ivory pawn]

Doesn’t matter. You should be able to get the most important rewards even if you go in with 0 oil.

[whole stump]

bett time to grind then

[sinful escarp]

just keep your oil, and spend it on the event
finish dailies and weekly

[clever lance]

Are t3 ordnance testing report super limited?

[solar canopy]

Tell me some good composition recommendations from the above ships.

[whole stump]

its fine to let it go past soft cap? i know coins are okay but even oil?

[wind hazel]

for what content

[sinful escarp]

the more oil the better

[solar canopy]

Bossing

[wind hazel]

what bossing

gotta be more specific

[exotic wren]

Light, Med, Or heavy?

[wind hazel]

as in what boss, campaign boss? challenge mode boss? meta showdown boss? opsi arbiter bosses? what boss

[solar canopy]

For all three armor types (you can recommend fleet 1 for light, fleet 2 for medium and fleet 3 for heavy). More precisely one shot on OP siren.

Arbiter

[wind hazel]

zwei alsace soyuz

agir/tank helena/z52 plymouth

[solar canopy]

Are there any alternatives to Plymouth?

Mine is not yet optimal

[forest palm]

z52 I guess

[wind hazel]

use both helena and z52 i guess lol

[forest palm]

Plymouth is rather unique in what she does, so there's nothing that truly replicates her kit

[wind hazel]

you can still use her as bb buffer

just expect lower personal damage, and don't let her tank

[forest palm]

if whatever you're fighting has low vanguard pressure you could drag a sub 30 plymouth

[solar canopy]

Unfortunately z52 Mine is still not good either

[wind hazel]

just run agir helena plymouth

[solar canopy]

My Plymouth is also not good. Is there any other alternative to the ship I have with the maximum stats below?

[forest palm]

there really isn't a 1:1 replacement for Plymouth

[wind hazel]

what is your plymouth current state

[solar canopy]

Dev lvl 22. Ship level 108

[wind hazel]

level her up and use her 🏃🏼

[solar canopy]

Okay fine. Thank you for the information

[astral oar]

guys what the hell is aa accelarators?

[atomic abyss]

AA guns that have higher rof
Used to increase the rate of fire for fleet AA (usually at the cost of dmg for poverty options)

The good accelerators are good cos they hit hard

[stark quiver]

Sup gph

[clear harbor]

I want to expand my dorm to 6 slots, right?

[spring basin]

it's generally better to just use a SR that's fully lmb than a UR who's not right ?

[stark quiver]

A total of 3 slots on first floor
And then buy second floor

[atomic abyss]

No
You want to expand to 3 slot and get the 2nd floor instead

5th and 6th slots are extremely expensive

[atomic abyss]

Yes, at least for the good SRs

[clear harbor]

Ohhhhh. Okay. Glad I asked.

Is it worth it to spend guild coins on dock expansion?

[forest palm]

5th, and 6th dorm slots are really for if you grind a lot, and at which point you're better doing some light spending for those slots as free gems should go to Dock Expansion

[little tree]

Is golden darkness better at boss dmg then Nelson retro for opsi ?

Thank you chat

[whole stump]

how do i know when i'm done with campaign?

[forest palm]

the info tab should tell you what you need to do

[whole stump]

uhhhh i'm blind

[forest palm]

most everything opens up after ch 4, ch 5 opens the middle

[whole stump]

ohhhh tysm

[clear harbor]

What's the best payout/easiet arcade game?

[whole stump]

what do i do here? nothing happens when step on them

OH

second fleet, got it nvm

[sweet delta]

The shooting sirens minigame is the fastest for converting tickets to points

[slow fox]

read the docs

[oblique burrow]

Guys i need help with the log in, im starting to play A.L again but when i tried logging in its a new account instead of my old account and im using the right email for it so idk why its like that

[inner delta]

select the right server

[oblique burrow]

Yes indid

also yostar makijg me bind but i already did with my two accounts

[sweet delta]

What BB/BC other than Raffaello and Rupprecht heals main fleet the best?

[slow fox]

Honoka

Gascogne self heal

Haruna Sairenji some 15% heal

Iori Minase for some 10%

Marco Polo with Skill 1 at lvl 1

Alsace Skill 3?

[sweet delta]

i think that's enough, it's getting hotter and hotter (the kitchen is burning)

[slow fox]

Erebus META

[little tree]

Mebot you burnt the kitchen down

[slow fox]

Lots of self-heal like that I ignored

[little tree]

Is Brest good at tanking W13 and 14? Compare to agir

[slow fox]

Keywords:

Heal
Restore
HP

[stark quiver]

13 shes better
idt it matters as much in 14

[bright tusk]

Is using two dive bombers (2nd slot & 3rd slot) on hakuryu good?

[stark quiver]

for what, and most of the time no

[forest palm]

in terms of bossing I don't think I've used 2x DBs on Haku

[storm heron]

haku with hvar and 2 skyraider looks good for light damage

[eternal moth]

And would be slow as hell

[sweet delta]

you'll take your words back when we have 6 skyraiders for a full 3 strike fleet!

[tawdry halo]

Am I doing good with this dock

[little tree]

Use that copy of sandy to mlb the level 60 sandy

Level up unicorn and retro her asap

Shiano is way more useful the uvh

[eternal moth]

Level 60 Sandy CAN'T be MLB'd

Key there being level 60

[little tree]

I know but that copy is locked and level 7

~~ i was concerned ~~

[honest stirrup]

Just in case: if you have the choice at any point, it's way better to get copies of already owned UR (for limit breaking) than getting a lot of 0lb URs. Although you probably just got Ulrich and Shinano out of luck
Another point is why do you have two copies of the same ship both locked
But overall, nothing too bad (oh and yeah work on Unicorn)

For your main fleet I'd take:
Unicorn, Perseus, Nelson (with Nelson in central position)
Portland, Z23, San Diego
For a second fleet you should wait to see which ships you can afford to max limit break and work from there, because we can't empathize enough on how important it is

[zenith heron]

Can anyone explain how the Flagship Cover function works? Especially Z52's...

[cobalt rapids]

25% dmg reduction to ur flag

[solid hedge]

Hi, about uss fish submarine
Who in middle and who in top?

[cobalt rapids]

Alba or flasher flag

[solid hedge]

Albacore , archerfish and flasher

I also have cavalla

[cobalt rapids]

No cavalla

[solid hedge]

Either of them flag is okay, right?

[rose cosmos]

Without la9, are yall using for hornet

[nimble knoll]

I don't know if someone answered my question from 17 hours or so ago, But Let's say I have like 40 Tenrai prints, would it be worth it to buy the 10 I needed to craft a Tenrai?

[wind hazel]

bf109g is always available

[rose cosmos]

Btw what carriers are you using

[wind hazel]

fritz and nakhimov for now

[rose cosmos]

So rumey, fdg and nak?

[upbeat wagon]

Who should I mlb, or should I wait for implacable

[wind hazel]

soyuz who uses fdg

[solid hedge]

Is hornet meta hard?

[wind hazel]

dont know yet

[sinful escarp]

i would buy it if it were me

[rose cosmos]

Who should I use without soyuz btw

[wind hazel]

can you get more UR bulin than these 4?

[stone sluice]

I would buy them. I guess you have been grinding PR4 lately

[upbeat wagon]

Short term, probably no unless event has one

But i have 2k gray currency

[wind hazel]

implacable i guess

[plain saffron]

would still buy all and grind another 10 and get 2 tenrai

[wind hazel]

then i'd wait for implacable then decide

[rose cosmos]

Vanguard wise can eld, san diego and helena do the job

[wind hazel]

unlikely to 1shot

[rose cosmos]

Who do you recommend

[wind hazel]

dont know yet

was hoping this would work

[rose cosmos]

Though gear wise for van I’m pretty contented now, since I have 2 rainbow dd and 2 plyguns

[wind hazel]

maybe back to helena gaming if this doesn't

[rose cosmos]

Farming for ply alone net two rainbows gun

[wind hazel]

that's pretty lucky

[rose cosmos]

Also, without nak either, can I do avp, impla and rumey

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[wind hazel]

if you're using implacable then you don't need to use avp

what other cv you have

[sinful escarp]

stacking movement stop wont do anything, so just use another dmg dealer

[rose cosmos]

Shinano, amagi, enterprise and indy 😅

[wind hazel]

enterprise i guess

[sinful escarp]

shinano and amagiCV

[wind hazel]

would they perform better on medium than fritz enty?

[rose cosmos]

Oh wait, I have a yorktown too

[cobalt rapids]

fritz amagi would

[wind hazel]

unexpected

[cobalt rapids]

why

[wind hazel]

actually idk

fritz amagi>fritz yk2? if all bf109g

and assuming only 1 skyraider

[rose cosmos]

Wait yall supposed to have 2?

[dreamy blade]

1 from original 2nd from rerun

[cobalt rapids]

fritz yk2

but idk if fritz yk2 > enty yk2
barring consistencies

[wind hazel]

[cobalt rapids]

probably yes

but amagi fritz if using kazagumo/unzen

[zenith heron]

I guess due to the IJN buff and better torp dmg?

[cobalt rapids]

yea she should be clear winner if shes buffing some1 like unzen

prob even with just gumo

[lusty dirge]

I was wondering if anybody can help me detune the vanguard or my Soviet battleship can get MVP.

[wind hazel]

mvp rigging is not worth it

either that or you really have to gimp your fleet to use really passive trash ships or unequip stuff

[plain saffron]

you'll never be able to do it as long as perseus is there

[clever lance]

Are dual proto twin 234 mm the best non rainbow guns for hindenberg?

[cobalt rapids]

nvm amagi too strong

[zenith heron]

Roon Gun might be her go to if its random content unless its Light

Gold Triple 234 SK/C Prototype

[clever lance]

Content would be opsi

So I guess it depends on boss

But just looking for straight plug n play without having to switch guns all the time

[zenith heron]

I guess it still stands then

As long as its for mobbing

For bossing, against Medium armor is its best, against Heavy could be alright, unsure about Light Armor

[clever lance]

I don’t see that gun on the tier list equip for hindenburg

Just trying to find a reference for it so I can figure out how to get it

[zenith heron]

Drake Gun is the only Contender against the Hindenburg gun, one has better dmg modifier in exchange for having Normal Shells than AP Shells

Most people here would prefer the Roon gun as the go to since its the best in between if you are lazy to switch

[clever lance]

Is there a reference page for the name of the guns

[dreamy blade]

looks like cheshire gun is what you want

[clever lance]

Got it name

[nocturne glade]

is hood's module any good?

[dreamy blade]

if you use her yes, her barrage isnt 100% proc without it

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty!

[tawdry halo]

First, I would like to say my thank you, and then second, I will answer the uhh, questions you have

Well, yes, the game gave me 2 URs out of pure luck (UVH on 1st day and Shinano on 3rd day), and second, I lock copies to avoid me accidentally using them up in enhancing other ships

[dreamy blade]

the game only automatically uses gray rarity ships for enhancing

[storm heron]

[tawdry halo]

Lv70 can be, so close enough

[nimble knoll]

You should save your cubes if you're a beginner. Imo

[tawdry halo]

My first 10 pulls after tutorial gave me UVH and Perseus 💔

And I'm not exactly a beginner, more of a reroller who lost my acc (google banned AL connection)

I figured out that my main acc was google binded ❤️‍🩹

[nimble knoll]

I see

[tawdry halo]

I always just do one to two pulls per day for the build ship missions

That's it

And RNG gave me Mamano on the third day

[nimble knoll]

How far did you managed to go in your main account? If you still remember

[wet badge]

I got yk2 and am researching nyakh do i need implac

[wind hazel]

yes

[wet badge]

I havent played for a while 😭

[spring basin]

can anyone tell me what the fleet maker tools are used for ? they seem to me to just be for displaying your fleets.

[quick mason]

Give me best AA for 12-1 bro im almost destroyed

[clever lance]

On the guide it says I can equip a main gun in the AA gun slot for hindenburg. Do I have to level her up first or something before it can be equipped?

[shell willow]

checking main fleet salvo/airstrike timing and what you said

[wind hazel]

dev30

[clever lance]

Got it thanks

[wind hazel]

what do you have

[clever lance]

So basically next year at the rate I’m going haha

[quick mason]

Wait

[clever lance]

Are tea torps or mag torps better for opsi bossing?

[quick mason]

Maybe I should use double carrier

[rough marlin]

Are event augments permanently missable? I didn't Fubuki's augment. Is it a lost cause?

[wind hazel]

i meant what ships do you have lol

[wind hazel]

on manual teatorp>
on auto quad mag>

[wind hazel]

very likely, unless they get rerun, which you have to pray for it to happen

so far only 2 collabs had their reruns

[rough marlin]

Damn. Thank you tho

[wind hazel]

or was it 3...

[quick mason]

Thx I think im fine now I just have to use double carrier

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[carmine heath]

is this gun still good? Im looking at the stats and its seems pretty much identical to the twin 127mm

[frank pulsar]

its better than the 127
and yes its decent

idk why you think its identical when the gaps pretty big

[whole crypt]

probably looking at the wrong stats

doesn't look very different if you don't know what you're looking for

[atomic abyss]

It's noticeably better than the twin 127 lol
The twin 127 is actually worse than the purple twin 120 if anything

There's almost no world in which it's worth to invest in the twin 127

...it's not like we have gear tech or anything as an equivalent to fleet tech

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head 127 compares fine with 120, it's more of an early game accessibility and cost issue

[atomic abyss]

it's only outright better against heavy

120 outperforms 127 on light and med

cheaper and easier to get as mentioned

aaaand also has a higher FP stat lel

it's also worse for interception, but that's really scraping the bottom of the barrel

[whole crypt]

just slightly worse for those 2 armours, at the end of the day you pick 120 for being cheaper, unless the the 127 is pending lab upgrade to 137

[atomic abyss]

found the old copy pasta from 2019

[whole crypt]

the actual difference in performance is really not that much, 120 is just easier to source and cheaper to enhance, but you can upgrade a 127 to 137 to recoup costs while you probably won't use the lab tree for 120

[sharp socket]

ender's pasta from 6 years ago

[forest palm]

Twin 137 is only for BBs, no?

[forest palm]

only real gripe with converting Twin 127s into Twin 137s is the T2 Ords

recouping plates and coin seem more reasonable by upgrading a Twin 120 even if you don't use the gun itself

[whole crypt]

it is still the best aux gun for some BBs short of handing them rainbow guns

and it's fairly good for ch15

[atomic abyss]

it works very well for 14 too

[whole crypt]

it's one of the better options for 14 yeh

[forest palm]

having 2 to 3 sure, but it doesn't seem like something you want in excess. Also, how many BBs with DD Aux are there that function regularly in 14 + 15? and aren't phased out by other options

[atomic abyss]

i used it over 155 kai actually

[whole crypt]

I don't think you'll be making 127s/120s en masse either

not that many DDs are recommended for early game

[forest palm]

doesn't exactly answer the question...

[atomic abyss]

i mean it's about the same as 155 kai for interception
and iirc it's better in pvp

but talk about stretching

[whole crypt]

isn't early game sandy gaming just giving her aug and 76

[cobalt rapids]

dont think its better than 155kai in w14 but outside of that it is

[whole crypt]

isn't it something to do with the amount of HP and the shields on the 14 botes

[cobalt rapids]

for rammers yes

[forest palm]

don't know the Twin 120 seems fine as the better transitional piece, the mats used to upgrade it are an easier loss

[whole crypt]

I guess if you ever need more than 2-3 DD guns in early game you could diversify

[cobalt rapids]

well idk about some1 worrying about recovering +10 costs on a dd gun having 137mm prio in the queue in the near future

[whole crypt]

recovering costs is just part of it but the original argument is whether it's worth bothering with enhancing a 127 at all over just using 120s

[wind hazel]

if you only have 127 then it's worth

[iron lily]

just started playing, are there any limit break priorities early on, or should I just LB Helena, starter ship and Unicorn evenly?

[whole crypt]

well ender was like 127 bad just don't touch 127

[atomic abyss]

focus on backline ship limit breaks first, so unicorn etc

[wind hazel]

well not wrong, that's assuming player has access to both at the same time

[whole crypt]

you shouldn't really be seriously short of bulins for them

[wind hazel]

but sometimes your techbox luck is omega cursed, so beggar can't be chooser

[iron lily]

Got it, do I LB Pennsylvania too, or is she just exclusively early game and I can ignore her for the most part, the wording on that guide is a bit confusing

[whole crypt]

but yes I would agree on LBing main fleet ships first unless your vanguards are running into survival issues

[atomic abyss]

you will be using her for a while
limit break everything you're using, basically

[cobalt rapids]

u mlb all ships u use

[whole crypt]

Pennsylvania is fairly cheap to LB as well, ideally LB what you use but you can stop workinng on her as soon as you actually get a better BB/BC replacement

[iron lily]

got it, I'll see how far I can go 😄

Also.... Bolzano META, use or ignore?

[atomic abyss]

ignore

[iron lily]

👍 will do

[whole crypt]

fairly safe to ignore, METAs are generally not worth the effort early game

[polar lion]

How many 120s u guys at?

[wind hazel]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

at least 1

ive done like 120 since last anni

[whole crypt]

you mean how many lv120s?

[forest palm]

over 450 at this point...

[polar lion]

Jeezus das really fast. It's only been less than 8 months since last year's JP anni

[cobalt rapids]

since EN anni but yea

[jaunty vault]

i retire most of my 120s so idk

[polar lion]

I'm only at 402. I'm wayyy behind yall

[forest palm]

I've been 120 grinding since 2019

[whole crypt]

767 obtainable ships - Hornet META - 43 not 120/+ ships so... 723?

[forest palm]

something like that

I should do a recount, 450 ships was like 4 months ago

[wind hazel]

more than me

[sinful elk]

Chat is Andrea meta decent

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[sinful elk]

Just general like ssr bbs?

[whole crypt]

I mean I'm also 👴

[cobalt rapids]

shes better than most gold bbs

[nimble knoll]

Is it worth changing Raff for Andrea META So she lvls up? (I'll probably put Raff on my boss team, Replacing Nelson)

[turbid marsh]

why use andrea meta when you already have nelson?

[tropic tusk]

meta isnt very useful at all

[cobalt rapids]

i mean yes u should lvl up ur ships if ure planning to use em

[polar lion]

If u mlb her then its fine

[nimble knoll]

I got the four crystals from the shop, And Andrea Meta is better than Nelson, No?

[cobalt rapids]

she is yea

[turbid marsh]

she is better yeah... but from a main campaign stand point... the difference is not that big

[nimble knoll]

And my Nelson is 120 anyways, And would Roon be usable at dev25?

[cobalt rapids]

if u got nothing better to level then its fine

[full drum]

is belfast worth ,Hu Pen and Admiral Hipper?

[dreamy blade]

you have to level roon eventually so yeah dev25 is fine to start sortieing her

[cobalt rapids]

none of them

[nimble knoll]

Time to bench my Laffey

[full drum]

what i use to replace Shouhou?

[turbid marsh]

she doesn't need replacement from the ships you have shown here XD

[full drum]

xD i just started few days ago but it dies first at the beginning

[turbid marsh]

yes, she is like low level, expected. maybe you want to go grind like a lower level map to gain some level first

[dreamy blade]

there wasnt really a point in replacing long island for shouhou

[full drum]

is it worth to grind ?

[tropic tusk]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource give this a read

[novel solstice]

Grinding is how your ships go up in level. And a few levels make them a lot more powerful.

[dusk dirge]

Does Yk2, Ent, and Kear work well in Siren even without a slow? I was using AvP instead of Kear for a slow. Should I use Northampton to help?

[turbid marsh]

avp sub for enty not kear

[north wharf]

My OpSi mob fleet uses Uni-kai and Perseus as healers, what would be a good BB to use for such a fleet? Or should I change the whole setup?

[full drum]

Can i farm Aircraft retrofit parts ? im max 3-3?

[tropic tusk]

as in hard w3-3?

if its hard mode then yea ur suppose to farm them x3 per day

[full drum]

xD normal hard 3-3 i dont survive xD

[tropic tusk]

normal then no , drop rate too low

[full drum]

ah okay

[tropic tusk]

ur best choice is just keep pushing normal and if u die just farm level behind that

say u die on 3-3 just farm on 3-2 abit then keep pushing

normally u will struggle abit on world 9 and world 11

[full drum]

okay

[tropic tusk]

if u just follow that link u will be fine

[sinful escarp]

x-1= DD prints
x-2= CL/CA prints
x-3= BB prints
x-4= CV prints
hardmode

also there are retrofit prints in guild shop
though its rng as to when it appears

[frank pulsar]

unikai for heals is enough
theres no set comp for opsi mobbing, best bb for opsi mob would be musashi

[north wharf]

Okay thanks, anything I should use for the other slot then?

[frank pulsar]

can be anything
indep, aquila, impero, uvh, etc

[north wharf]

Alright thanks

[sinful escarp]

tbh i would just use someone to speed up the run

unikai will be more than enough for healing in opsi mob

[frank pulsar]

personally i run sushi + uni + indep + yat sen + cc + harbin

[north wharf]

My VG is Agir, An Shan and Kronsthadt

[sinful escarp]

me i run atelier ryza fleet with uvh and unzen

[turbid marsh]

could probably replace agir with something else XD

[frank pulsar]

that works but like, kinda wasted imho
agir could be better used in a boss fleet

[north wharf]

I honestly only got into this game like 3 weeks ago, despite playing since 2018 so my knowledge is whack af, thanks

How do I determine whether a ship is boss/mob material?

[sinful escarp]

up to what chapter/world of main campaign did you finish?

[turbid marsh]

depend on their skill/barrage

[north wharf]

Currently readying my ch14 fleet

Need some gear from monthly core shop still

[sinful escarp]

ahhhh then yeah, opsi is where you need to focus on at that point

[north wharf]

Yeah found that out pretty quick once I started looking at gear lab stuff lol

[turbid marsh]

probably want to give the samheart comments a read, but you can always ask here as well XD

[north wharf]

Depends how exactly? More often/weaker = mob versus slow but powerful = boss?

[north wharf]

Someone here gave me a personalized setup plus gear recs, its one of the recent threads

[sinful escarp]

barrage ships and healers are usually mob fleet

imma say this just to be sure but, there is a UR event coming next MT. so dont pull aside from the daily light build for mission

[turbid marsh]

thats good

[north wharf]

Thanks, and yeah I only do light pulls outside of events

Playing for a while did teach me some things I guess lol

Any recs for VG for OpSi then? This is my options:

I have some URs at lvl 100 if its better that I grind those up first

[sinful escarp]

who are the lvl100 URs?

[north wharf]

Laffey II, Eldrigde Kai, Unzen and Z52

Oh and Sandy-kai at 113

[sinful escarp]

oohhh all top URs, are they mlb?

[north wharf]

Only Eldridge and Unzen

I have plenty of resources to buy bURins though

[turbid marsh]

then z52 sandiego unzen for vg.

[north wharf]

Okay, and actually while on that topic, whats the recommended leveling strat? I used to do the 1200 oil commission plus dorm which is slow asf

[atomic abyss]

use them in battle

[tame jungle]

grind the shit out of 12-1 or 12-4

[deft kettle]

wait how come? just out of curiousity since im new to the game

[turbid marsh]

i wouldnt recommend doing the 1200 oil commission, not worth. use them in battle 12-1. use books to lv 70, and then 12-1.

[north wharf]

Save up for events

[deft kettle]

ohh

[atomic abyss]

because you need 400 cubes to guarantee a UR during UR banners
most URs are still limited

[deft kettle]

shouldve known, i only saved up +20 cubes

[sinful escarp]

there is a mission that needs you to build 1 ship and its reward is 1 cube. so its a free light build every day

[deft kettle]

im screwed, also hello blue archive fan

[north wharf]

Okay will do, and yeah stopped the commissions yesterday as I saw people here talk about how its not worth. Sadly I'm on an EXP pack drought

[deft kettle]

ohh niceee

[tame jungle]

once you start grinding a lot you'll generate more xp packs than you'll know what to do with

[turbid marsh]

then use your other level 100 ships for now and then you ll generate more xp packs XD

[sinful escarp]

hard cap for xp books is 3k (unless it was changed)

[deft kettle]

she dies a bit too quickly since i got her yesterday from the guild shop

also how do i increase healing for unicorn?

[north wharf]

Every UR I mentioned is at least level 100, should I grind them to 120 first or use them already?

[tame jungle]

yeah 3k cap

[maiden crystal]

100 is ok already but ofc just better when leveled

[turbid marsh]

faster planes, skills, so on XD

[maiden crystal]

does depend on which stages you're going for ig

[deft kettle]

do lvls on her also increase healing?

[sinful escarp]

i wouldnt for now. save your oil for the event and jsut level them there

[north wharf]

Just OpSi mobbing, all corruption levels

[ivory pawn]

Level her 1st skill and finish retrofitting her. Maybe give her some defensive auxes temporarily.

[deft kettle]

she only heals 70-100 hp

[turbid marsh]

techinically yes because more reload, but no, her skill is based on vanguard hp

[deft kettle]

aight

[turbid marsh]

like percentage of vanguard hp if i remembered right

[maiden crystal]

maybe not level 6 and most likely not the boss

[north wharf]

So then what should my OpSi VG be with the options I do have?

[sinful escarp]

ah if you want you can put them in opsi and see if they can clear mobbing there.
there is no oil cost and morale drops there

[north wharf]

Okay will try then

As for gear, I thought I saw that ectl is not recommended, so where should I source best gear options for ships?

[tame jungle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[maiden crystal]

labbing gear out

[deft kettle]

BRO I JUST GOT THIS LADY FOR MY MISSION BUILD FIRST TRY

[tame jungle]

#trophy-room is that way

[north wharf]

Nice pull

[deft kettle]

is she good?

[north wharf]

Thanks for link

[tame jungle]

not particularly

[eager mulch]

no

[deft kettle]

aw man, most super rares i see arent good😔

[turbid marsh]

she used to be a ex niche until... well...

[maiden crystal]

it's hard to outperform most UR

[sinful escarp]

SR's are still good, its just that the difference between them and the UR is big

[hollow gust]

She isn't even that special for a SR

[maiden crystal]

meanwhile warspite

[pastel notch]

Is there a theory fleet that can oneshot hornet meta yet

[south sequoia]

No

[north wharf]

Would Kearsarge and York II be a good OpSi boss Main and what should the third be?

[turbid marsh]

avp or impla

[north wharf]

Okay I have impla

[south sequoia]

I mean it is a theory fleet mind you, how would we know if those things can one shot
its hard to know how much a fleet can do in practice when basing off theory when we dont have 15 yet

[south sequoia]

It is a great opsi boss main yes

Excels in light armor battles

also still does well vs med and heavy

[turbid marsh]

think 15 is tmr for CN, so probably want to watch some cn dalaos XD

[south sequoia]

yep

[turbid marsh]

think there were some theories on not using 4xLA-9 (or because most people dont have 4x)

[north wharf]

Would Ägir, Eldrigde kai and Z52 be a good VG for OpSi Boss then?

[south sequoia]

Safe to say that theory is being carried out well, Im pretty sure 95% don't even have more than 2

[south sequoia]

To go along with kear and york?

replace eldridge with helena

[north wharf]

Yeah

[south sequoia]

or sirius

[north wharf]

Okay will do

[nimble knoll]

If you lose a fight in the Meta Battles, Would it use a daily fight or smth?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[ivory pawn]

If you’re fighting someone else’s boss, yes.

If you’re fighting your own, it uses the free attempt, and you can continue to knock it down at the cost of some oil.

[hybrid pelican]

If im not mistaken, there was a way to get Meta ships to lvl up their skills while im doing regular sorties, it worked by selecting a meta ship, i think
Where is that option? I cant find it and it is leveling the skill of Repulse Meta, i want to lvl up Jintsuu's skills instead

[elfin hollow]

@craggy hedge These are the screenshots I will show you

[harsh gust]

each meta ship has a collection of 'tasks' that will level up their skills
tasks for all the ships are 'active' at the same time so you don't need to switch between ships, but only one skill is active for each

[spiral fjord]

What should I prioritise for clearing C13?

[atomic abyss]

loads of carriers, loads of anti air

[north wharf]

Sandy kai and Cheshire are good options I hear

[craggy hedge]

Try to get your gears level to 4 while equiping unicorn either one repair tookit and a purple steam catapult or one blue aviation tank on unicorn

Depend on your coins amount, i would to priorities gear level to at least level 6 or 7

[atomic abyss]

6

[craggy hedge]

Yeah 6

[elfin hollow]

I'm also sending screenshots, I'll take a good look

The second part @craggy hedge

[atomic abyss]

transition gear shdnt go past 6

[elfin hollow]

Discord what happening?

[atomic abyss]

no idea

you shdnt be using 2 fleets where you are in the game

[spiral fjord]

Who should I use with YT2 and Kearsarge if I don't have AVP or Implacable?

[atomic abyss]

implacable is coming in like, 2 days
fritz rumey if freeze isnt needed

[deft kettle]

im stuck at 4-4 ;-;

[atomic abyss]

all the more

[hallow spoke]

how

[atomic abyss]

you shd focus all the resources onto 1 fleet

not split what you have over 2

ships in their 90s should be able to reach w9 with ease

[hallow spoke]

is scylla counted as good?

[atomic abyss]

extremely

[deft kettle]

my fleet is crap

[hallow spoke]

my ship is at 96 and struggling with c6 lmao

[atomic abyss]

as with all beginners, yes, it will be crap

[hallow spoke]

no SR?

[atomic abyss]

you're not using the recommended beginner fleet

[craggy hedge]

Basic Sonar is for submarine gear since they give ASW and ASR instead, replace it with repair tookit and hydraulic steering gear, also your howa missing main gear

[spiral fjord]

So would this work for C13? (gear is good I swear)

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

grab helena and pennsylvania

[atomic abyss]

for... boss?

[spiral fjord]

For clearing C13 1-4

[atomic abyss]

again, for boss?

where's the mob fleet?

[river junco]

Are you trying to one fleet with this? Also set yk2 as flag

[craggy hedge]

So no flagship fleet?

[spiral fjord]

I need a mob fleet?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[craggy hedge]

Ofc you always nee d it

[deft kettle]

whats SR?

[maiden crystal]

[atomic abyss]

it's not impossible to clear w13 with 1, but your fleet isnt gonna clear w13 solo

[hallow spoke]

ships

[river junco]

You need a mob with a healer, your fleet is going to die

[maiden crystal]

super rare, the gold tier ships

wait no fuck im dumb

[hallow spoke]

no ur right tho?

[deft kettle]

only these two

[atomic abyss]

grab pennsylvania and helena
replace repulse with pennsylvania, bolzano with helena
pennsylvania in flag, not unicorn

also ignore submarines

[hallow spoke]

thats sad then

[atomic abyss]

if you have nelson, she would be better than pennsylvania

[maiden crystal]

oh i got confused with kr tiering again

[deft kettle]

can i dm you what characters i have?

[river junco]

Just open a thread

[atomic abyss]

you can just create a thread and send your characters there

[atomic abyss]

it's not impossible to clear w13 with 1, but your particular fleet isnt gonna clear w13 solo
im sure the gear is sub par too
build a mob fleet or you will get shredded by planes

[craggy hedge]

AA focus fleet to be particular

[elfin hollow]

Okay, I showed this and that to know what and how to equip better. As I analyze it Colorado or Maryland because they are probably at the same level as the improved Nelson

[deft kettle]

Characters i have

[atomic abyss]

they are slightly worse but yes

[spiral fjord]

Does this work as a mob fleet?

[atomic abyss]

musashi in flag
sandy cant be in 2 places
but yes it'll work

[river junco]

Musashi as flagship, not off flag

[deft kettle]

sent the characters

[spiral fjord]

and this is the gear im working with for both fleets

[deft kettle]

thats a lot of rainbow and gold that i wish to get

[maiden crystal]

you will get if you keep grinding

[craggy hedge]

You will have a lot through progression and grinding

[spiral fjord]

I replaced sandy with shimakaze in the other fleet

[atomic abyss]

now your boss fleet doesnt have enough AA

swap sandy to boss, z52 will carry the AA for mob

[craggy hedge]

Balance both fleet with comfy range AA will make the w13 less painful

[topaz sundial]

when is implac rerun again?

[atomic abyss]

2 days

[craggy hedge]

2 days left

[deft kettle]

mannn im such an idiottt

[full drum]

Worth or dont?

[atomic abyss]

terrible

[craggy hedge]

She is not, at all

[iron lily]

This is what I'm currently running based on the guides I'm reading. Only one that "shouldn't" be there is Long Island. Just got Hiryuu, do I replace her?

[atomic abyss]

i would stick with long

[lament ledge]

how do i get sardegna empire tech points

[atomic abyss]

or swap to ranger

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#rn

[full drum]

mostly golds are complet shit?

[lament ledge]

ok tank u 🙏

[atomic abyss]

most ships are complete shit

[craggy hedge]

most, some exception that just, are very powerful

[elfin hollow]

18k exp Replenish me low level fleet?

[full drum]

ah okay

[craggy hedge]

If you willing to sacrifice your oil, 18k EXP is not a bad idea

[atomic abyss]

it is not worth

[tame jungle]

it very much is a bad idea

[craggy hedge]

So you finally got summoned back

[elfin hollow]

I always sacrifice

[atomic abyss]

it is a waste

because you get more exp from grinding

[craggy hedge]

Pre-W9 with your low oil count, that is a huge loss

[atomic abyss]

and a new player will always run out of oil if they're actively playing