gameplay-help

[dreamy blade]

what aux gear is on your portland

[tropic tusk]

no unzen sadly

[wind hazel]

put hind then

[nimble knoll]

Yeah, What's the Aux Gear?

[astral oar]

toolkit and steering wheel

just started last month

[tropic tusk]

i got hin,ancho,ibuki ready only

[nimble knoll]

Gold steering?

[wind hazel]

lemme see your fleet

[astral oar]

blue, im a new player

[dreamy blade]

if your vanguard is dying to the boss fleet it is unlikely because portland isnt tanky enough

[nimble knoll]

Are you using two fleets?

[dreamy blade]

if your aa or damage is poor then the fight will go on for too long and you will take too much damage from planes

[astral oar]

yeah

[wind hazel]

show your fleets

[dreamy blade]

well heinrich is already tankier than portland if they were equal levels

[wind hazel]

seem fine.....

[nimble knoll]

Sandy would be good, Cuz of the AA she gives?

[dreamy blade]

can you show the gear your mainfleet is using

[astral oar]

boss fleet?

[vernal minnow]

If I have nothing to farm, do I lose anything for being overcap on oil?

[wind hazel]

yes, you lose canteen oil

[vernal minnow]

or like is there a reason/benefit to always be under cap oil

[tropic tusk]

how can u have noting to farm?

[wind hazel]

you always have something to farm in this game

[vernal minnow]

yeah let me rephrase it as my second question

[tropic tusk]

u must be playing wrong if u have nothing to farm xD

[nimble knoll]

Why is Nelson using the UR Gun

[astral oar]

because for more dmg?

[dreamy blade]

12-4 boss is medium armor so it's actually fine

[wind hazel]

try using circular formation

[nimble knoll]

That's good

[wind hazel]

and if possible +10 the helldivers on saratoga

if you have a barracuda, replace the tenzan on enterprise

[dreamy blade]

seems fine, i would say to just get some more levels on your ships in 12-1 and swap heinrich to the boss tank

[nimble knoll]

Also, Wouldn't a hellcat be better than seafang?

[wind hazel]

slightly

[astral oar]

okay

[nimble knoll]

Y'know wat, I'll try and beat w12 rq (even though some of the ships are under 100,If I can do that, Then they probably have skill. Issue)

[astral oar]

also why 12-1?

[dreamy blade]

and also probably want to work towards getting sandy and anchorage

12-1 is the most efficient for xp/oil

[wind hazel]

try my suggestion first

[astral oar]

okay

[dreamy blade]

yeah circular formation could help a lot

[wind hazel]

believe it or not but 12-4 is pretty plane heavy on lethal for a newbie. circular helps a lot

[tropic tusk]

theres no harm in waiting abit more tbh no need to rush

[dreamy blade]

idk how much replacing the tenzan really changes tho

[wind hazel]

there are two bosses in 12-4, what do you think

[astral oar]

im 300 points away from her

[tropic tusk]

rerun UR order is imp > zewi > unzen right?

[wind hazel]

but if anything, if you dont wanna do 12-4 now and wanna push more level, then level up sanfran and move her to boss fleet

the vanguard is a little low on AA

[astral oar]

the main fleet can actually move?

[nimble knoll]

I might as well, If I can't then I'll just lvl up, Most of the ships

[wind hazel]

what do you mean

[tropic tusk]

just level up the 2 team u will start using for pushing w12 to 120+ then ur fine

[astral oar]

like what does circular formation do? id never tried it till npw

[wind hazel]

ah, it boost your fleet AA

[dreamy blade]

the default is double line which is +eva and -fp

[vestal yoke]

when I reach 80 medals I should buy entirprise and replace her with unicorn or pennsylvania right?

[nimble knoll]

This should be fine

[wind hazel]

no you keep penny unicorn, and kick whoever is occupying 3rd slot

[tropic tusk]

y dont u use uni instead of aqula?

[vestal yoke]

I've got Hood as the flagship as 3rd

[tropic tusk]

u have a tier 0 healer and ur using a tier 1 healer

[nimble knoll]

Oh yeah, Good idea

[astral oar]

[wind hazel]

then kick penny, keep hood uni enterprise

[nimble knoll]

Wait, I'll just replace Indep,ehe

[tropic tusk]

u dont need 2 healer in w12

[dreamy blade]

you dont need 3 healers

[tropic tusk]

right the bb is also a healer lol

[wind hazel]

put helena on boss

[nimble knoll]

[dreamy blade]

also indep and uni have an aa gun slot

[wind hazel]

it's fine, raf aquila uni is good

indep being lv98 is not good

[tropic tusk]

helena in mob also

[astral oar]

i just need more lvls on my boss fleeet then im good

[nimble knoll]

This?

Kaza and Fu Shun, Should be fineee, with three healers, They won't die Ong

[dreamy blade]

aa is a bit poor in mob fleet but i suppose you can just heal through the dmg

[astral oar]

you got 3 healers?

[nimble knoll]

Defense is a good offense

[tropic tusk]

his mainfleet on mob team are all healers

i give up on hard w13-4 xD die after 7th battle

[astral oar]

mine have 2

[tacit jasper]

are there more alternatives to playing AL on PC?

I've noticed LD player has been doing "funny stuff" for a while now.... so wanted to know if we have any other alternatives?

[wind hazel]

i changed to mumu player, has been good so far

[tropic tusk]

is mumu player a new thing? never seen it before

[wind hazel]

pretty old

[tropic tusk]

ill give that a try later on when my ldplayer fails

[crimson glacier]

mumu?

i used it years ago before it broke on me

[boreal wagon]

it used to be really bad but ever since mumu 12 its among the best

it just doesn't really get updates anymore because they are focusing on their paid mac version

[tropic tusk]

if i have to craft which one should i craft ?

twin 40mm or sextuple 40mm

[tame jungle]

for the weekly mission?

[tropic tusk]

general use, cause i cant afford alot of rainbow yet so which should i use

[tame jungle]

how many sextuple or normal bofors do you have

also can you make any from crafting menu in depot

[tropic tusk]

i have 2 rainbwo , 1 sextuple , 5 twin

oh i can craft them beside from lab gear

[vestal yoke]

which war archive should I do first?

[tropic tusk]

i only have twin bp dont have sex bp

[tame jungle]

you can do another sextuple if you want then fill the rest with quad bofors/roomba

[tropic tusk]

wt is quad bofors roomba

i kid u not i have 0 sex bp lol

and 176 twin bp

[tame jungle]

problem with staag is that its actual AA performance isn't that good

[tropic tusk]

oh the twin

i have like 9 twin 113mm

[tame jungle]

then you'll probably be fine for the time being lmao

[tropic tusk]

is twin 40mm b0f0rs "hazemeyer" and octuple 40mm pom pom good?

[tame jungle]

no

[tropic tusk]

ok i should just thrown them away now

quadruple 40mm bofors

i have like 9

[tame jungle]

bruh

[tropic tusk]

i didnt craft them dont know where it came from

i also have 3 twin 134mm

[tame jungle]

go follow the equipment guide, you'll be fine

and read what it says about the use case

[tropic tusk]

so basically just this 3 then beside rainbow

[honest stirrup]

They don't matter so any of them is fine

[cobalt rapids]

dont gearlab staags
sextuple at most 2 if ure tackling w15
twin 134 when ure rich in materials and u wanna statstick ur fleet for meta showdowns minmaxing

[tropic tusk]

so build staggs and save for sex later on

[cobalt rapids]

build staags from research bps which ull get tons of
dont need to gearlab

[tropic tusk]

ok

right up coming event in 3 days i should start saving

[cobalt rapids]

this is gearlab prio not +13 prio chart

[honest stirrup]

what

[honest stirrup]

My b, it's weird to have Staag so high then

[cobalt rapids]

it is

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[storm heron]

sup irrelevant

[whole crypt]

any tentative setups for hornet

[elfin hollow]

do meta ships actually hit good in opsi?

[tropic tusk]

not that i know of

[whole crypt]

how good do you want/need to hit

[elfin hollow]

took this from cgpt, is it actually true?

[storm heron]

whaaat

[tropic tusk]

just so u know cgpt newest info is from 2022

[tame jungle]

well stop relying on chatgpt for one

[elfin hollow]

fuck me sideways ig

[whole crypt]

please refer to actual guide material than chatbots

[tame jungle]

use critical thinking as well if possible

[whole crypt]

like METAs can work in OS, the mode is easy enough, their skills give them some advantage but you're better off just using a better ship

[elfin hollow]

so meta ships are mostly just collectibles or something?

[tropic tusk]

ya

they dont take ur dock space anyway

[wind hazel]

only relevant one is jintsuu meta, the rest are tech ships

[elfin hollow]

crap

[wind hazel]

and maybe one or two for specific META showdown

[tropic tusk]

qe meta fight

[thick plume]

Which one should I equip for Nelson retrofit?

[whole crypt]

left, or just use a mk6

I'd stop investing in hood gun altogether

[thick plume]

Is it just good for ships relying on faster skill procs?

[tame jungle]

it's not even particularly spectacular on them either

[topaz sundial]

who do yall recommend for exchange

[dreamy blade]

shinano until shes mlb

[topaz sundial]

what about the other 2? any of those worth getting

[dreamy blade]

none of the perma URs are that useful besides shinano

uvh crossfleet is something i guess

[undone plover]

Tbf all perma UR are still ahead of the golds (on average)
It is just that they are competing with new and rerun UR for rainbow bulins which makes them a bit inconvenient
Only shinano is worth the bulins at face value

[astral oar]

I finally beat 12-4, what do I do next other than farming this place until down to safe level?

[dreamy blade]

ch13 14 and 15

[sinful escarp]

start leveling other ships

and maybe start opsi if you haven already

[astral oar]

Nice

Also where do I get more gear parts?

[dreamy blade]

do you mean the plates for enhancing?

[sinful escarp]

gear parts? you mean mats to make the gear lab gears?

[astral oar]

Yes

[sinful escarp]

keep farming

[dreamy blade]

just farming campaign but event maps tend to drop more plates

[sinful escarp]

campaign or event

[astral oar]

I'm always running out of those things

[whole crypt]

it's a process

[dreamy blade]

it's normal to be really low on purple plates, particularly the aux plates

[sinful escarp]

for now i recommend you stopping and wait for the event before farming again

after doing dailies and opsi that is

[whole crypt]

Implacable rerun coming so save what oil you think you'll need

[astral oar]

also i forgor to ask this but, does combat plan X2 counts in bringing down the threat level?

[molten solstice]

What is the thung implacable exceeds at as a ship?

If that makes sense

[astral oar]

i cant pull on her i only have 30 pulls, rafaello forced me to pity her

[dreamy blade]

she has the best freeze in the game for bosses that move a lot, to guarantee you dont miss your torps etc

[sinful escarp]

1 run only counts as 1 run. only the exp, drops and morale cost gets doubled

[astral oar]

and somehow my luck on this gacha is really shitty

[astral oar]

okay

[storm heron]

imagine every single boss fight where you use CVs
implacable is there

[simple marten]

Tosa or Kii?

[sinful escarp]

imagine all your CV converging torps always hits with implacable there

[molten solstice]

She will be damn fine with my strasser

[astral oar]

how long does it take to get 400 cubes?

[molten solstice]

2 months I believe

[simple marten]

A very very very long time

[molten solstice]

It might be somewhat less too

[astral oar]

start saving to guarantee the anni and maybe some leftover pulls

[tame jungle]

you're guaranteed 168 per month with 200 not being out of reach if you're active and get some luck on commissions

[astral oar]

nice

[molten solstice]

Indeed

[molten zinc]

You get 168 a month if you only build light, not taken comm, cruise mission, etc in account

[molten solstice]

So uh,hiw does gear grind in operation siren works??I have to find good gear as soon as possible

[frank pulsar]

clear everything every month

no special trick to it

[dreamy blade]

just clearing the whole map each month and doing your dailies (especially normal arbiter, strongholds, abyssals)

[molten solstice]

Thank god affinity doesn't work in it

[dreamy blade]

you dont lose morale but your ships still get the bonus exp from being at 120+ morale

[molten solstice]

Ok so, rested ships before i start,got it

[dreamy blade]

usually it's easy to just do some opsi after you finish farming 12-4 or w/e and have to wait for morale to recover

[astral oar]

oh i forgor to ask but how long does it take to lvl up th ships to 120?

[frank pulsar]

depends
for me i take arnd a week or two from lv90 grinding 12-4

if im busy then maybe 3

[astral oar]

okay

[sinful escarp]

little tip: if someone in your fleet keeps dying while leveling up in 12-4, switch over to 12-1

[astral oar]

also whats the general breakpoint for skills, like their levels are good enough to use?

[dreamy blade]

generally if you use the ship, you want to max their skills (unless it's portland)

[astral oar]

eh? if i do that how long does it take me to max out 1 skill alone?

[sinful escarp]

any tbh. like with cardslinger said, you would want them to get to max level anyways

15gold books, 1 purple and 1 blue

[dreamy blade]

if you just want to get a ship up to a baseline then you can do all lv6 first, but eventually you want to get them to 10 for the ships you use most

[astral oar]

i mean the time

[dreamy blade]

15x8 + 1x4 + 1x2

[sinful escarp]

126hrs continuously

that is if there is no down time

[astral oar]

gah almost a week

[sinful escarp]

i dont know how much if you use rainbow books though

[dreamy blade]

something something marathon not a sprint, eventually you run out of skills to level and you start leveling skills of tech fodder youre raising

[sinful escarp]

i am at a point that i am tempted to level portland's red skill just so she doesnt show in the list anymore

[astral oar]

i only got two blue rainbow books and heinrich devoured them fast

[sinful escarp]

books are there to be used, so just use them. no use in letting them collect dust in your inventory

[dreamy blade]

not sure if you were around for the recent one but sometimes theres an event that lets you insta-complete skill books 10x a day

[woven star]

just do not combine them in higher tier if you have their low amount

[sinful escarp]

tbh i never even considered combining the books, if you do dailies and buy from the guild shop they will build up

[frank pulsar]

depend on how often you login
if yr the type to login like once a day combining them may be worth it

[left cedar]

books for sure build up by thousands if u play regularly and keep comms and doing dailly/events ...

[narrow arch]

You guys think I'm lucky enough to get implacable in 40 pulls

[near cargo]

I need META fleet composition that's good for OpSi, so I can focus building them

[narrow arch]

Actually on the off chance I do get her should I replace enterprise with her, I'm like level 38 so I'm not even at 6-1 yet

[tame jungle]

you slap 5 META ships +unicorn into a fleet then spam maps with it

[narrow arch]

I feel like it would be good to start leveling her early yea?

[woven star]

about skills books - depends on ships you have/get. last week I'm almost depleted reds on this it's yellow and still overcap blues

[sinful escarp]

blue skills are the neglected child of the skill types

[woven star]

I wish we'll have books exchange: 3 one color type for 1 another

[plain saffron]

isn't that like worse than just using blue skill on non blue skill directly

[storm heron]

stop bullying

[forest palm]

if someone wants to waste xp per book let'em

[solid kite]

Surely that would not be good game design

[forest palm]

wouldn't really be anything wrong in terms of having the ability to convert to T4 Skill Books, however like I mentioned you lose more in the conversion than you gain

[wind hazel]

isn't it just lose exp per book but you gain more exp:time

[proven mist]

Which war archives are worth farming?
I have 5 steam catapults rn so I am planning to stop farming them for now.

[forest palm]

you don't actually

[wind hazel]

divergent chessboard for IB ships, unison in universe/passionate polaris if you need commander level and not yet at ch9

[wind hazel]

enlighten me on the maths

[proven mist]

I am at chapter 10.
Is z46 good ship for farming?

[woven star]

3x exp for 1.5x exp, and 3x time to 1x time. near that

[wind hazel]

if you need ib tech then she's good, and the various ib ship drops there

[proven mist]

Ohhh thanks a lot

[woven star]

what chance that Wichita META will be in Dossiers pool or Meta shop? And how often they add this ships

[wind hazel]

lol not anytime soon

[woven star]

dam

[plain saffron]

100% chance but need to wait a lot

[forest palm]

one T1 is 2 hours for 150 XP which you convert 6 into one T2 which is 450 XP for 4 hours, so~

for 12 hours you gain 900 xp to the one T2 book you attained which is only half of that at third of the time

so for me in terms of conversion you're going to always lose out in conversion unless you have an abundance

[wind hazel]

... but i was talking about exp to time ratio...

[plain saffron]

i thought we talking about 3 blue book to 1 red book or something

[woven star]

lol. so long calculation... you halved book exp but will get 1/3 time

[forest palm]

shifted more towards you losing more from conversion than gaining

[woven star]

idk. I'll buy it

[forest palm]

if you have abundance sure, but on the casual level you'll just burn both ends faster doing that

would be interesting if you could convert into other types

[molten solstice]

Is z23s augment good?

[whole crypt]

all of the starter DD augs are good but they're still far from top tier DDs

[molten solstice]

Which are the top tier dds that are available to someone who missed the recent events?

[whole crypt]

Kazagumo would be a start... or just don't use DDs where not necessary

DDGs are good

[woven star]

#gameplay-help message that's what I mean.

[whole crypt]

just run out of red skills to level ez

[forest palm]

actually almost there lol

[whole crypt]

I'm running out for non-capped ships, still have a bunch of 120 fodder waiting though

[forest palm]

last I counted I have like...78 ships with red skills left

[whole crypt]

I lost track of the 120s

[woven star]

imagine having 3 slots for skilling

[forest palm]

I have 4

[woven star]

I have 3 f2p is a ⛱️

[whole crypt]

3 is more than enough

[forest palm]

2 is honestly enough

[woven star]

I want leveled Downes skill but have no slots and some others. have a lot to do anyway

[ember swan]

hello help chat of azur lane official, im here to ask and cope, if i missed out on a collab character's augment, am i just cooked

[whole crypt]

essentially yes

[forest palm]

more than likely you are cooked

[ember swan]

i hate this game

[ivory pawn]

Cope for a rerun, but you’re super cooked.

[woven star]

overcooked?

[ember swan]

azur lane is actually peak fomo

[whole crypt]

for collabs I guess

[rapid grail]

fortunately the best time to start playing the game is now
else if you don't, you'll be permanently cooked unless reruns are announced

[whole crypt]

everything else comes back

[ember swan]

yeah no i just like stopped playing for a few months and i saw that to love ru characters are actually decent, i was like bazinga! but no i didnt get their augment so its cooked

[whole crypt]

they're good but

[ember swan]

listen, coping for waifus

[whole crypt]

I've given up for waifus

[rapid grail]

I hold out for when the devs finally bring a gold rarity Boiler for us over in Amagi.
Wirbel Luft is good but more speed is favorable tbh

I cope, for there will come a day where my belief will be vindicated

[whole crypt]

more speed is bad

[rapid grail]

nah i'm airing out a #pvp frustration over in #gameplay-help , this is why i won't be an old player

[forest palm]

it's funnier when you realize there're people that intentionally burned these

[whole crypt]

but muh depot space

[forest palm]

[woven star]

few more words about books. interesting calculation is it
if t1 to t2 rate 1/2 xp to 1/3 time
then t2 to t3 will be 2/3 xp to 1/2 time
if converting then t2 to t3? I mean lose less.

[rapid grail]

is that a grammatical error... please don't tell me that the devs got access to old player's accounts and disposed of these

[hallow mountain]

Is it worth to MLB NJ in 2025

I like her as a waifu

[plain saffron]

it means some people scrap them, not the devs. i think

[turbid marsh]

then yes. waifu > meta

[hallow mountain]

yay

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-new-jersey-new-jersey-azur-lane-seseren-drooling-gif-21744119

[turbid marsh]

will you regret, maybe, as she is in perma pool. but is it worth though, to go as a waifu, you play this game not for beating the game, but for waifus right?

[hallow mountain]

Also for Ch13 and beyond

I'm not sure if I should bring her there. I don't have good AA guns

I mean I do, but not rainbow ones

[whole crypt]

NJ is far from a bad BB, maybe not the best for 13 or 14+ but she'll work

[plain saffron]

is it just me or AL crashes a lot nowadays

[whole crypt]

it's just you

[turbid marsh]

you definitely can. she has high aa herself so she actually kinda functions not as bad as you would think.

[eternal basalt]

~~Me using her to beat w15 ~~

[forest palm]

time to fresh install

[molten solstice]

Guys do we have any french ships tier list?

[forest palm]

no, there is no such thing for something so specific

[molten solstice]

Okkkk

[eternal basalt]

UR = Good, rest bad

[molten solstice]

Fantastic

[turbid marsh]

i mean you can look at the spread sheet or tierlist, and sort out all the french ships heehee. a lot of work but hey, you get what you want

[molten solstice]

Le triumph and le malin,are these two good?

[atomic abyss]

nope

the only good frenchies are the rainbow ones and richelieu really

flandre and gascogne too

[molten solstice]

Thank you so much

So all of the french vanguard is shi

[forest palm]

the French tend to be good for 120 tech

[atomic abyss]

brest and mogador are the only notable french vanguards iirc

[plain saffron]

i don't want to lose my loadout

actually let me go see where they store it

[atomic abyss]

oh wait

i forgot jeanne

[molten solstice]

Jeanne beart?

[atomic abyss]

jeanne d'arc

jean bart is meh

[molten solstice]

Okeeee thank you!!!

[ivory pawn]

St Louis is another decent French vanguard w/aug, although mostly anti-light iirc.

[hallow mountain]

Oh nice
Thing is that I don't really have any other good BBs. The only girl I'm always using is Bismarck

[forest palm]

Painleve, Sanrui, Bayard

[hallow mountain]

which in hindsight, she probably isn't a good AA ship.

[turbid marsh]

bismark or bismarkz?

[hallow mountain]

OG Bisko

I do have other good ships, namely Raffaello, but I haven't built the rest of them

[soft raft]

Hopefully you didn't get her from medal shop cuz Hood would've been right there

[hallow mountain]

I was one of the OG peeps who got her in her first event

Actually rather, I don't have enough good BB guns

[forest palm]

that's easy to fix

[hallow mountain]

how

[forest palm]

Mk6, and 406/50s are easy enough to get these days

[hallow mountain]

hmmmm

i need good HE guns too but idk what to get

[eager mulch]

mk6

[hallow mountain]

i didn't know about the 406/50 being in PR3 tho

[eager mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/912786051179884614.gif?size=16

[hallow mountain]

i do have mk6 but i haven't fully leveled it up

[eager mulch]

the two HE BB guns you will use are MK6 and MK7

[woven star]

L'Audacieux was good. In SSR terms. I'm still using her infinities barrages but she limited

[hallow mountain]

ok thanks

how do i get this sooner, other than the gear lab

[forest palm]

you don't need it, you can make do with a Mk6

[eager mulch]

tf do you mean sooner

[hollow gust]

Just use the purple gun

[hallow mountain]

as in quicker

[hallow mountain]

damn alright

[eager mulch]

there is no other way than gear lab

[hollow gust]

You literally won't see a massive difference anyway until you can max one of them , which isn't even high priority

[nimble knoll]

Would it be worth like, Let's say I have 40 or So Tenrai prints, And I buy the 10 I needed, Would that be a good investment or a bad one?

[hallow mountain]

don't be like me

i used up all of mine in the analysis thing

[narrow arch]

Is there another way to get retrofit blueprints without doing hard mode. I can't get mf purple cruiser prints for portland

[nimble knoll]

Guild shop sometimes have Purple and Gold Ones iirc

[tame jungle]

just keep on doing your hard mode

you'll have plenty of blueprints before you know it

[nimble knoll]

How can you get Tech Points again? I know MLB, 120, and getting the ship gives them, But any else?

[cobalt rapids]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[nimble knoll]

God damn it.. I need 3 more for Anchorage!

[narrow arch]

Are any of the pr research ships actually worth investing in from pr1 or do you just get them because waifu

[cobalt rapids]

did u grab all us ships from guild shop ?

[nimble knoll]

Roon is gud

[nimble knoll]

...

[cobalt rapids]

none are lategame meta but most are strong ( the ones with special aug )

[narrow arch]

I was getting roon bc waifu but that's good to know 👀

[nimble knoll]

Roon is good, If you don't have anyone better, But she's worth getting

[nimble knoll]

What ships are US ones?

[narrow arch]

I don't think I have anyone better lol, I'm using the starter ships because I'm level 40. I'm not grinding for roon atm because I know I shouldn't until I get to W12

[cobalt rapids]

quite alot from guildshop

[narrow arch]

Who's the meta BB right now

Out of the UR ones I mean

[cobalt rapids]

top 5 for bossing are bz soyuz alsace vanny musashi
top 2 for mobbing are musashi and raffaelo

[nimble knoll]

Mi wanna know, Cuz I used my guild refresh so I can only pick 1, and that would be enough

[narrow arch]

How cooked would I be if I went the waifu route and used NJ instead

[cobalt rapids]

u would be on a waifu route

[tame jungle]

there should be a list on the wiki with all ships you can get from guild shop and you can check new ships against that

[cobalt rapids]

i mean nj is still great but not top

[narrow arch]

Oh wait I just realized you said musashi which is also on my eventual get list

Does unicorn just stay in my lineup forever btw

[tame jungle]

yea pretty much

[narrow arch]

Damn that's crazy lol

[nimble knoll]

Thanks

[eager mulch]

[honest sequoia]

How do i throw away cats in cattery

[tame jungle]

cannibalism (use them to enhance others)

[eager mulch]

[nimble knoll]

Hell Yeah! I can get Ancho now

[eager mulch]

how much is extra cattery space

[tame jungle]

20 bazillion dollars

[north wharf]

Would this be the correct place to ask for help with building a chapter 14 fleet?

[nimble knoll]

Yes

[tame jungle]

20 bazillion dollars (also known as 80 gems per 5*)

[eager mulch]

that’s not too bad

[tame jungle]

it's per 5 oops i misremembered

[molten solstice]

Uh,best war archive for grinding in general?

[eager mulch]

misinformation smh my head

[woven star]

WA with 100% drop ship after 60 runs

[wind hazel]

depends on what you want

[hallow mountain]

bump, because I'm an idiot

[molten solstice]

Good gears mostly

[wind hazel]

then none

[north wharf]

Alright awesome, I've got (I think) some decent options I just dont know the composition since the ECTL guide seems outdated. Do I just drop a screencap of my top ships or what?

[molten solstice]

LMFAO

[woven star]

Forget about gears drop

[cobalt rapids]

yes, in a thread

[eager mulch]

i would not farm war archives unless i need some specific ship

[north wharf]

Alright thx, lemme try that

[eager mulch]

yuri pfp

[molten solstice]

I think they give more gold tho no?

[hallow mountain]

Is it worth farming Crimson Dyed Red, the first one, for the Ryusei?

[eager mulch]

no

[north wharf]

Help Reshiro beat Chapter 14

[nimble knoll]

Who Here Gets Screwed Over By Helena's Skill Luck

[eager mulch]

not me, helena loves me

[tame jungle]

Nobody in the history of Ever (everyone at one point)

[eager mulch]

nah, I’d win

[tame jungle]

he doesn't know about the helena incident

[hallow mountain]

i think you'd be better off doing 12-4 or beyond

or 13-4 if you want money
works for me all the time

[nimble knoll]

I missed my Helena Skills On A Lvl 10 Meta Horni, And Almost Lost, Got to 5 seconds left-

[woven star]

Some lies. You can get some gears from wa if they rare and then upgrade it in gear labs. But it's still rng

[hallow mountain]

you'd get some good purple plates too

[nimble knoll]

I'm Having My Downfall, Luck Isn't At My Side Anymore..

[tame jungle]

not much we can do to help with that no? unless you got any questions

[nimble knoll]

How to improve Luck

[eager mulch]

don’t be unlucky

[tame jungle]

buy the luck pack from store

[eager mulch]

problem solved go next

[hallow mountain]

how do i activate Enty's skill more often in pvp

[tame jungle]

lol

[nimble knoll]

Get Lucky?

After all, If it's not 100% it's 50%

[hallow mountain]

ok but seriously

[nimble knoll]

Wtf

[tame jungle]

don't post offtopic here

[harsh gust]

[hallow mountain]

i got into a pvp fight with another enty

for some reason their enty just got luckier

[viscid swift]

It happens

[hallow mountain]

is it really rng or is there some equipment i can use

[tame jungle]

you just experienced 70% chance + low sample size

[nimble knoll]

If u wanna talk abt PvP, Go to the PvP chat

[hallow mountain]

well uh

is there anything that improves luck? at all?

[nimble knoll]

I Know, I Know

[viscid swift]

It is just rng

[tame jungle]

mate, no

[hallow mountain]

[wind hazel]

yes, it is called restarting the fight

[hallow mountain]

fuck

[nimble knoll]

And hope you get lucky

[viscid swift]

Luck stat doesn't affect skill proc rate

[hallow mountain]

damn

[nimble knoll]

After Anchorage, Which One Should I Go For Next? Cause I can make all of Pr1, almost all of Pr2, Except FDG and Azuma, Chkalov and Napoli

[woven star]

about wa drop gear: this how I got Single 138.6mm Mle 1929 from Mle 1923. I know you would say buy IL gear boxes but even there drop rate hilarious.

[worldly pewter]

never farm wa for gear prints
that is one of the worst advice someone can give

[tame jungle]

it's a massive waste of time
most of the gear in there is also not even good

[woven star]

ok what's a best way get Single 138.6mm (Mle 1929)?

[tame jungle]

gear lab lol?

[wind hazel]

why would you want that gun in the first place

[woven star]

yeah. but it's iris libre items so no drops from standart boxes

[tame jungle]

it was the best gun in 2019!

there's iris tech boxes that can give you the prerequisite gears

[wind hazel]

bear in mind the context is new players asking what WA to farm

[gilded adder]

is buying monthly packs enough to support dock space for a beginner?

[wind hazel]

you're telling new players to farm that single dd gun? for what

[woven star]

second gun for Helena until I get UR

[wind hazel]

aight please stop trolling

[worldly pewter]

u can wait until u can craft in the gear lab
secondary guns are always not having a high priority

[nimble knoll]

[worldly pewter]

if u are running low on dock space then u are doing something wrong
most likely

[gilded adder]

i see

[cobalt rapids]

do one that is closer to d30 considering ure alr coining anchorage
and work on ur ib tech to start coining fdg

[gilded adder]

just wondering if the gems from montly packs will be enough for me to buy some skins

[wind hazel]

the trade license? two months and you can buy a skin. or 50 dockspaces

[tame jungle]

if you're turbo suffering from dockspace issues i wouldn't be getting skins

[woven star]

yes but it's too long as I know ur cl gun from proto shop. and I'm not even on half way of researching tree

[wind hazel]

gem packs are more valuable if you're chasing skin

[gilded adder]

just started but saw some ppl struggling on dock spaces

[wind hazel]

most people do

[nimble knoll]

I have 296 Ancho Prints, And my Roon is Dev23, I can probably get roon to dev30 before I can finish Ancho Imo

[gilded adder]

so u gonna spend if u want to be a collector?

[tame jungle]

pretty much

[worldly pewter]

usually helena only valuable for her buff skill as her damage most of the time isn't there
the secondary gun slot won't matter at all and most likely it is just for meta oneshot min maxing which is far from what a new player would consider
there are no advantages overall from chasing that specific gun in the wa
if i would chase something it should be steam catapults at best but even that i won't recommend anyone doing it

[gilded adder]

damn i heard this game was really f2p

[nimble knoll]

Do you think, With these I can get enough Tech Points?

[woven star]

how long ago you open them? at price of 15 medal drop rate is sht

[worldly pewter]

it is really f2p

[wind hazel]

yes, unless you can suffer through first few years, and ease up on like the 3rd or 4th year from f2p gems lol

[tame jungle]

never because i don't need it

[gilded adder]

but u gonna run out of dock space?

being a f2p

[tame jungle]

doing 60 runs of WA D3 is also not a very fast process either

[boreal wagon]

you can buy them for coins and merit too they are in 3 shops in total

[worldly pewter]

i can confirm even for someone who started last year ( most precisely guam event ) the game is still f2p friendly even though i bought 2 extra dorm slots

[boreal wagon]

and not like medals have much of a use to begin with

[molten solstice]

What is their best use??

[boreal wagon]

pretty much just medal shop

[hollow gust]

Bulinlin

[boreal wagon]

but unless you buy literally everything there (which you shouldnt) you will always make more than you can reasonably spend

[wind hazel]

curious, what's your dockspace now?

[worldly pewter]

i have extra 55 slots now after 15 months of playtime

[nimble knoll]

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[cobalt rapids]

z23 120 + mlb roon nurn scharn and deutschland and its enough for fdg

[woven star]

I'm not chasing that gun from wa. and yes I'm at AL game period that nothing to do except waiting for UR gears.
I don't recommend farming wa for gear. But I said that some lower tier gear has a better drop rate due to them having less number blueprints and etc. And if you want to get something with gold tier, this might be the way to go.

[gilded adder]

yeah like how many dockspace u have now?

[worldly pewter]

17 bulins and 2 dupes raff and vanguard

[gilded adder]

from what i heard u need around 600-700

[cobalt rapids]

bruh what is this single 138 debate

[nimble knoll]

[turbid marsh]

thats full collection + collab

[boreal wagon]

you need >700 if you want to keep one copy of every ship

[hollow gust]

Only really need these three

[gilded adder]

which server ur playing on?

[hollow gust]

Less though since a lot of it is retrofit

[woven star]

btw 138.6 1929 have infinity low drop rate. but 1923 I got after 10 runs or so

[cobalt rapids]

cool, no1 should farm that gun in wa ever

[boreal wagon]

its still going to be above 700

[wind hazel]

more than celerio

[gilded adder]

I wanted to play on jp server but im worried that i cannot top up money into it

[turbid marsh]

above 700 to be comfortable XD heehee cause u aint retiring ships every 2 runs

[worldly pewter]

i think celerio whales and his gems are all over the places

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure theres 115 retrofits , 798 unlocks

[wind hazel]

ye -1k because he bought skin lol

[boreal wagon]

there is 769 ships in the game (counting the region exclusives and collabs)

retrofits does not reduce this number

[worldly pewter]

u can't whale there unless u have someone who can login and pay for u from jp

[gilded adder]

i see

thats unfortunate

[turbid marsh]

769 ships? dang

[boreal wagon]

its 100 retrofits, the 798 number it shows in the game is the 698 ships that arent collab + 100 retrofits

[worldly pewter]

the number doesn't stop from increasing but also i think with the anni free gems that are consistently increasing there shouldn't be any issue regarding dock space i think

[boreal wagon]

even with meta not counting towards dock space itll be above 700 (because there is only 45 metas)

[molten zinc]

retire them

[worldly pewter]

[rapid grail]

jp server basically f2p challenge

[narrow arch]

I roll a gold and it's bad

[cobalt rapids]

time to unroll it

[narrow arch]

And of course I looked at the gear list saw triple 406/50 on it and got excited before realizing that I got the shit one

[soft raft]

Did you have a question?

[narrow arch]

It was infact NOT the /50

[tame jungle]

chatting goes to #al-general

[narrow arch]

Oh wait shit mb

[tame jungle]

i forgive you (this time)

[narrow arch]

Actually I do have a question

This is literally just a net positive right, I can't find either of these on the equipment guide and I don't have anything better

Unless there's like some reason why I shouldn't change it

[cobalt rapids]

left is better for single target right is better for aoe

[tame pivot]

Btw, what BBs is this gun best on? Dont have it equipped to anyone atm..

[turbid marsh]

any bb doing medium armor i guess

[tame pivot]

Examples of some URs?

[undone plover]

specifically medium armor bossing
for mobbing 457 still better probably

[left cedar]

considerable best at medium only, if mob or other type of boss only, shit
on campaign
shit as well

[viscid swift]

just about any BB can use it

as always, gear is dependent on the situation, not the ship

[sharp echo]

how many coining is recommended per day?

[left cedar]

some ships are dependent on equips, so read it

[novel solstice]

At a minimum do the free ones; beyond that it's a matter of how much your income is.

[tame pivot]

Would it be better than the triple 406mm on Kearsarge for example?..

[cobalt rapids]

6-10, depends on ur income or if u for example need to save for banners

[undone plover]

6-10 if low on gold
10 average
15 if swimming in coins and have no better coin sink

[sharp echo]

okie

[viscid swift]

1. which triple 406
2. in what context

[hollow gust]

Keary shouldn't use non eagle Soviet guns

[tame pivot]

The purple one

[tame pivot]

Ahh, okie dokes

[viscid swift]

I doubt it tbh

you're only losing 10% FP by not using it and that gun does clear the likes of the Soyuz gun against medium armor by quite the significant margin

in fact just using the lars calculator(enemy is Hornet)

[obsidian ivy]

What's hornet meta fleet tech

[boreal wagon]

+1 hit

[forest palm]

basically mandatory to get her

[normal cedar]

just hit lvl 30 and unlocked research
which ship should I target? go directly for ur or start with sr build?

[undone plover]

saint louis for now
roon if u are using z23
unlock anchorage/agir/fdg and switch to them ASAP
finish first ship if u are close to finishing the requirements before switch

and for research put focus on pr5 or pr7
for catchup put it on anchorage
and dont touch pr1-3 catchup yet

[normal cedar]

ohh I see
for research I thought if you align it with ship you are working on, wouldnt it be faster? why go for pr5 or 7 then?

[forest palm]

Gear, and Ships being generally better

[undone plover]

because season 1-4 is "retired"
u can get the blueprints for the ships by unlocking them and buying ~10 BP ever day
and the gear u can get from prototype shop and gear lab

this way u can work on retired season for example pr4 and newer season for example pr5 at the same time

[normal cedar]

I see, I understood it now
also for pr7, can we not select a ship in research? there seems to be no option and instead the page shows a ship of its own choice

[soft raft]

PR7 does not have catch-up yet as it is the newest season

[woven star]

it's only about Raff gun, Champy will be worst.

[narrow arch]

How do you get tech points to unlock Ägir and FDG

[soft raft]

Obtain/MLB/Lvl 120 ships of the respective faction

Higher rarity and heavier hulltype respectively give more tech points

[viscid swift]

what

[narrow arch]

Oh so there is a use to leveling Prinz Eugen. Sick

[normal cedar]

ohh so thats supposed to be 'catch up', I read the term in a guide but didnt get what it meant till now.
pr6 seems to be not reccomended due to worse gear, would it be bad if I start with 6 instead?

[narrow arch]

I can just throw prinz adalbert, prinz eugen, and z23 into a lineup and do the lower campaign missions until I level them up enough right?

[undone plover]

there is cheaper ways than finishing eugen
rule of thumb for tech:
MLB cheap stuff (commons, rares, elites)
MLB good SRs (good either being they give good tech at level 120 or they are good and have some usage)
eugen fits none of these

[soft raft]

you'd need to raise more ships than that to get enough tech points but yeah sure

Tho ideally you'd do that after W9/ideally W12

[narrow arch]

Damn, my girl will stay in the dock hell as my secretary then :(

[woven star]

if you using UR SAP on someone else then soviet gun is a choice for Kear. otherwise big dmg loss. At least for Med

[soft raft]

Besides the PR6 DRs, only Shimanto really has a use but that's later on in campaign

PR4 and speed running FdG asap is what's usually recommended

[undone plover]

better than starting with pr1-3 focus
but still we recommend pr5 and pr7
and some ppl still suggest pr4 for smooth early game progression but I think it is a waste

[narrow arch]

Is there a list in the guide of good iron blood SRs to MLB

[viscid swift]

the point I was making was that the Raffaello gun assuming same enhance level would do better on Kearsarge than Soyuz gun aganst medium armor despite the 10% FP loss

I wasn't saying that gun should be used on Kearsarge specifically

[undone plover]

u can follow this guide
if u have a lot of options, post your KMS we can tell u who is worth using/LB for tech
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

[viscid swift]

I also never said a thing about the Champagne gun

try backreading a bit further next time

[narrow arch]

Oh so it's not a bad thing i got graf spee then, sick

[undone plover]

try and grab bismarck/tirpitz from BB medal shop
or farm divergent chessboard for gneisenau/scharnhorst
u want to have 3 KMS backliners to finish FdG and agir part 1 faster as well

[narrow arch]

Yeah

I'll farm divergent chessboard rn to spam out the KMS commons and MLB them since they're cheap

[north wharf]

My sub fleet is Flasher, Leonardo and Archerfish, would that be reasonable for chapter 14?

[undone plover]

u shouldnt hurt progression for this tho
get to ch9 and ch12 asap
can do research a bit later

[viscid swift]

yes

[woven star]

I didn't see point on specifically Raff gun. Just a picture with Raff gun as example and some words about loss 10% fp. Anyway.

[north wharf]

Alright thanks

[narrow arch]

Yeah I'm at 6-2 or 6-3 rn since I literally just unlocked them

So I'm halfway there

[hollow gust]

[viscid swift]

as I said, try backreading a bit further next time

[sweet delta]

If you're just reading without using your brain, then don't talk

[tame jungle]

who's forcing him to be in here replying to everything 💔

[hollow gust]

All this complaining about picture takes more time then the entire post

[undone plover]

farming divergent chessboard is good when u are commander level locked from progressing further
because D maps are easier than newer event D maps and they have oil cap and are more efficient to farm than chapters 6,7 and 8
and u get KMS tech
they have some stat requirements tho
what level is your fleet right now?

[normal cedar]

wait, so should I go for the sr or ur there? I was under the assumption that we were talking ur　(i was thinking kearsarge from pr6)

[normal cedar]

by there I mean 5n7

[sweet delta]

You go for pr7 research. You can build shimanto and use 300 catch-up on shimanto if you want to

[undone plover]

at the moment u can probably only work on pr1 ships
but I recommend pr5 or pr7 for reasearch focus
which is a different thing than building the ships

[sweet delta]

Going for a ship doesn't matter if she's not coinable and you don't have close to dev 30 blueprints for her

[normal cedar]

ohh ok got it, I understood pr and dr now

thanks a lot !!

[undone plover]

just to double check u can show this page so we see if it is correct

[undone plover]

ok click this

[undone plover]

put first line on 5 (not like this picture this picture is on 6 but I cant find example with 5 )
and pr4 on anchorage

[narrow arch]

Wdym

[normal cedar]

like this ?

[undone plover]

I meant there is another benefit to farming divergent chessboard early on
in addition to getting the bonus KMS faction tech which is why it is recommended to do it
but it is not as straightforward as running normal maps
the maps have restrictions u need to fulfill before u can sortie like this picture

[narrow arch]

Ah I see

How do I check my fleet level

[undone plover]

usually if your fleet is around level 80-90 u are likely to able to run it with a few stat sticks on fleet 2 I think

[normal cedar]

just a last question, so these are the pr 5 researches right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[woven star]

It's average level. One 120 ship with lvl 100 ship will be 110 avg. Subs doesn't count

[narrow arch]

My fleet 2 is depressing 😭

Absolutely in shambles

[soft raft]

Why are you even thinking of a second fleet that early in the first place

[narrow arch]

I just threw them in there, quite literally just now

[undone plover]

start with C1 map in divergent chessboard and see if u can run D1 map
if u cant then go back to campaign a bit or farm C4 till u can do D1

[narrow arch]

I'm in B right now, let me finish W7 then I'll get through to C

[undone plover]

u should read this when u have the time but everything is good now
research and shipyard is a slow process so dont expect to max ships in a few days
come back if u have questions https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_academy

[woven star]

Ignoring second fleet with low avg. level can be a choice if fleet 1 strong enough for whole map

[worldly pewter]

usually the starter fleet will struggle to fulfill the trp requirement that is why a bad second fleet can do the job for this specific situation

i started with and i remember me struggling for trp at some point

[undone plover]

yeah the TRP requirement in D1 is brutal for the starter fleet

[woven star]

It's all depends on other map requirements

Btw aux. can help if not enough requirements. But it can make main fleet weaker if this aux. used their

[undone plover]

aux on statstick fleet 2 is usually how we do it
we will see once he gets to it if he comes back

[woven star]

Interesting if second fleet doesn't meet requirements slots. I mean without CL ship in CL slot but meet other map requirements like lvl, trp, etc. Do it work? Never seen this situation

[ivory pawn]

If there is a ship requirement, you must fulfill at least one in both Vanguard and Main to sortie.

[woven star]

Lol. Worked

[full drum]

why 2 stars are 50% ?

[boreal wagon]

because stars and clear percentage are independent from another

[woven star]

I did as example but with only one fleet on map

[boreal wagon]

clear percentage simply indicates how many times you need to clear the map (aka defeat the boss)

[ivory pawn]

Weird, I explicitly remember it not working when I was trying it before.

[full drum]

so i need kill the boss twice?

[boreal wagon]

in this case yes

[narrow arch]

Which meta ships should go into my dock of no return

[woven star]

It's ignoring fleet which not meet requirements. As example fleet 1

[narrow arch]

None? So what do I use the crystals on if not on the ships im never gonna look at again

[eternal moth]

Impero's event being added to WA next maint

[eternal moth]

Whoever you want. Or the skill books

[woven star]

Yamashiro meta BB rld tech. But idk how she as ship

[wind hazel]

i dont recommend buying the skill books at all

[undone plover]

i think save for now
u are not in a position to level any of them
and these ships are useless until level 120 for meta purposes
if u like one of them get her tho

[soft raft]

On the plus side, META ships don't take up your valuable dock space

[undone plover]

and yeah dont buy mats or books in this shop

[cobalt rapids]

should grab the ships for tech mostly the backliners, but not rn for later before buying any skill books

[narrow arch]

I was thinking yamashiro literally just to have her as my secretary until she becomes useful

[wind hazel]

they are all bad ships

[cobalt rapids]

she wont become usefull

[wind hazel]

but good tech ships

[undone plover]

that is fine
she wont be very useful
but she is good tech at level 120
that is sth else u can work on when u get to chapter 12

[narrow arch]

I meant for whatever tech stuff you get from her

[sweet delta]

That's a fine idea

[worldly pewter]

@undone plover does this pic include the 2 fleets ?
i did the avg lvl and it gave me funny numbers

[narrow arch]

She'll go into my roster with bikini eugen

[undone plover]

afaik it is ignoring fleet 1 for stat requirement purposes

[viscid swift]

yep

[cobalt rapids]

fleets that dont match the requirements for 1 slot in backline and 1 in vang dont count

because they are invalid

[eternal moth]

Yeah, you'd need to have at least a CA in that first fleet for it to work

[normal cedar]

The same is written for Maryland, West Virginia. I am a noob, can someone explain what's the deal with these 3 ships?

[eternal moth]

Descriptions are old and outdated

[sweet delta]

Outdated descriptions, that's what

[woven star]

True. No stats from fleet one until fulfilled all required slots

[eternal moth]

Augments/retrofits improved at least one of them. I think we have all 3 retro'd now right?

[eternal moth]

No, you don't need to fulfill all required slots, just one each in main and vanguard

[woven star]

I know. From that map CA and BB slot

I didn't notice that they don't give a stats at all

[normal cedar]

So is it fine if I get them from the guild shop as a beginner? I already got unicorn, helena, portland and pennsylvania from there which I use in my main fleet, I was thinking of using them in my 2nd fleet

[forest palm]

MD, WV, CO, and Nelson have a retrofit, Mutsu is a joke, Nagato and Rodney are in limbo

[sweet delta]

They're bad before retrofit, and you need to retrofit unicorn and portland. I don't know what other options you have, like in medal shop BB or elsewhere

[undone plover]

also isnt nelson better than them still sushi

[mild heath]

I retrofitted Nelson, she now steps on everyone.

[sweet delta]

Nelson could be said tobe slightly better on mobs due to near 100% proc rate, while Maryland or WV is better on bossing. Colorado is just worse than the others

[mild heath]

I wanted to retrofit Exetor and i had a 2nd one to do so....than i did a oopsie and now i need to grind for a 2nd one again.

[eternal moth]

You can use a purple bulin @mild heath

[sweet delta]

#al-general for blogging

[normal cedar]

By what world is it recommended to finish their retro? I'm on world 5 rn

[sweet delta]

There is no recommendation,

[eternal moth]

You can't finish their retro until they get to at least 75 or 85, so just go as you can

[undone plover]

when u reach ch9 u want to start raising a second fleet
as far as unicorn portland and starter DD is concerned finish their retro as soon as u can

[sweet delta]

It's RNG and you just do them asap

And chapter 5 is nowhere close to needing to start on a second fleet

[stark quiver]

I don’t do what chapter to start 2nd fleet
Just when you have enough good ships to do it

[sweet delta]

What if you have 12 good ships in chapter 1?

[eternal moth]

I think I started working ships into my primary fleet to level them at chapter 9

Since at that point you can farm 9-1 for low-oil XP farm

[stark quiver]

[normal cedar]

is helena the same priority as those 3? My starter is laffey

[whole crypt]

you can't gear them and you can't use 2 fleets in ch1

[eternal moth]

Helena's pretty low priority for retro

[narrow arch]

I'm almost done retroing Portland I just need the stupid purple ones

[undone plover]

no she is not
if u have nelson work on her after laffey
or WV, maryland if u decided to get them
u could also get a good BB in medal shop if that is an option and work on saratoga/indep

[eternal moth]

Mainly because she's really good without it, and her retrofit is really only needed for mid-game and up

[normal cedar]

When does mid-game start? My guide says world 5 as mid game...

[hollow gust]

W12

[undone plover]

after ch12
mid-game is when u get serious about operation siren

[cobalt rapids]

what guide are u following

[eternal moth]

Probably ECTL's

[cobalt rapids]

right

[normal cedar]

slaimuda Chapters Walkthrough

[eternal moth]

That thing's so out of date they really need to post a warning on it

[forest palm]

man I really wish ECTL would put a disclaimer on that thing

[undone plover]

ECTL guide is a fun read but mostly outdated
use sam's beginner tips instead https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[eternal moth]

Hell, it was out of date when I started playing

[forest palm]

to bad they'll give you the excuse that they're too busy

[eternal basalt]

~~Damn, midgame is when you beat 90% of the game ~~

[normal cedar]

Yes, thanks, I am also using that but etcl had chapterwise breakdown so I was seeing that for teams
Didn't know it was out of date

[boreal wagon]

according to the discussion we had last time thats too hard for them to do

[forest palm]

truly a clown show over there

[hollow gust]

It's updated

[undone plover]

since when

[hollow gust]

Ricest rewrote it

[undone plover]

oh nice

[worldly pewter]

that is how the powercreep works
they are releasing stuff for w15 naturally they will massacre the lower worlds

[north wharf]

Remember, 92 = 50%

[eternal moth]

They don't even mention Helena until chapter 5, Imma doubt that

[whole crypt]

rice rewrote what, I don't see guildshop unicorn in the first few chapters

[undone plover]

is it fully updated?

[forest palm]

ya ECTL newbie guide still looks outdated lol

[whole crypt]

I think grey is ENing

[forest palm]

same lol

[whole crypt]

we're not talking about ecgc newbie guide, we're talking about ectl walkthrough being outdated

[hollow gust]

He def updated something,mb another site

[whole crypt]

ectl has been "too busy" and "working on it" for the past few years so

[forest palm]

same lazy ass excuse

it's rather funny when you look over the newbie guide and see a sample fleet with Shouhou
true whiplash

[eternal basalt]

~~Just like the wiki ~~

[boreal wagon]

you are part of the wiki

[forest palm]

the wiki manages to be useful though...

[eternal moth]

Or Phoenix

[whole crypt]

just wire hassat to the wiki and make him update it in his sleep

[hushed sorrel]

maybe that example fleet was created when said ship was in a event banner

[forest palm]

that's not how that works

[eager mulch]

riceist rewrote newbie guide but is finishing it up, it’s not out yet

https://slaimuda.github.io/sstl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop

[hushed sorrel]

is the name riceist or do you wanted to write racist? xD

[eager mulch]

his name is riceist

there’s another person named rice so the -ist is an important distinction

[hushed sorrel]

my bad

[woven star]

How often they update meta shop? I know they did it not so long time ago. But when was that before?

[hushed sorrel]

the operation siren shop updates each month

[soft raft]

That's not what he's talking about

[tame jungle]

that's not the one he's talking about

[woven star]

Not opsi. Meta ship shop

[soft raft]

He's talking about the shop you can get older cruise pass METAs from

[hushed sorrel]

i dont think the meta shop will ever reset. correct me if i am wrong

[tame jungle]

he's also not talking about a reset either

[hushed sorrel]

xD

[woven star]

I mean if crystal fragments not useful any where else. And meta ships have no requirements in dock. Maybe there is chance to buy meta ship as their skills leveled so long just for future tech or etc.

[hushed sorrel]

then just please answer his question

[eager mulch]

it gets updated whenever they add a new event meta ship or decide to add an old cruise pass meta but idk if there’s a regular schedule

[woven star]

Otherwise if they add good meta to shop you can miss her as no fragments crystal

[soft raft]

What

[hushed sorrel]

we dont know what future updates will bring us. in my opinion the main goal of said shop is the meta upgrade mats. no other uses for the currency except for this very shop

[undone plover]

the ships and their LB crystals take prio over the mats
U can get the mats from opsi shop and other sources
No other way to get the ships

[hushed sorrel]

may be true for common players, it was as i said my opinion :)

[woven star]

Agreed with mats in shop. Low priority. But some of my meta ships still leveling their skill. It's truly long process or tons of skill meta book. Maybe time to buy some meta ships from shop. Just in case to leveling their skills

[hushed sorrel]

using the meta ships helps to level the skills a lot. i use some of them in operation siren just to level the skills. as i am not someone who looks at time efficience but it doesnt cost oil its a good way

[woven star]

Ah. I forgot about it. Most of my from passive skill xp exercises

[polar lion]

Good fighter vs heavy?

[undone plover]

La9 if no AA concern
flapjack or sidegrade if AA concern

[polar lion]

Is La9 really has better dmg for bossing vs heavy armor out of all other options for non AA concern battles?

[undone plover]

for fighters yes
La9 has dmg within 10% of tenrai for heavy

[knotty dome]

scharnhost is supposed to drop from aurora noctis but doesn't say that under war archives, is this just left out?

[viscid swift]

yes

[knotty dome]

thanks

[mild heath]

Oh thanks, that did the trick as well. Awesome.

[hallow spoke]

Is anyone worth building on the implacable banner? Other than impl

[turbid marsh]

i guess no, you ll probably get everyone as you get implacable anyways though XD

[hallow spoke]

But like

I have 30 cubes at most rn

[eternal moth]

Use the 44 tickets to pull

[hallow spoke]

what 44 tickets

[woven star]

30 cubes it's too low. Try get more but not with crystals. do commisions

[hallow spoke]

Im new

[turbid marsh]

for a rerun event for UR, you get free pulling tickets subbing for pulls XD

[eternal moth]

You should be able to get tickets that give free pulls on reruns. They're in event shops, point rewards, ETC

[turbid marsh]

and you get 44 tickets in total, so thats 88 cubes that you save. heehee

[hallow spoke]

What tickets????

[tame jungle]

tickets for free pulls

[hallow spoke]

K so

44 tickets in the event that implacable comes with

[tame jungle]

yes and they expire when the event ends

[hallow spoke]

K

[narrow arch]

And getting the 44 is guaranteed?

So I'll have 80 pulls in total

[hallow spoke]

Any ideas on team change?

[worldly pewter]

i didn't get the sub in raff banner

[hallow spoke]

After the impl banner

[narrow arch]

I have 80 cubes and I'm still stressing

[woven star]

when something like "15% (25%) chance to fire" on ship's skill it's count volley or rounds? How good Algérie META? And what best CA gun for that? I know this chances too low but 3 sec stun sound very deliciously

[woven star]

no bigy) last time I got 2 raff copies on third 10x pull

[woven star]

you have lack of 1 CV at least... enty+implac maybe try to get saratoga

[worldly pewter]

i go with raff uni + anyone else

[kindred arrow]

For AlgeM it's every time she fires her main guns, I guess a fast gun would be best for it if you only want the stacks and don't care about damage but I wouldn't recommend doing that

Buff too low and stop too unwieldy for the trouble

[woven star]

she has 5 sec cd for main gun proc plus 20 sec barrage so it's near 20 sec to get 5 stacks for stun. but yeah if once it's not proc everything fcuped

[narrow arch]

I want implacable because she's hot lowkey

[woven star]

I have 160 now but rng it's rng

[kindred arrow]

Barrages don't generate, the barrage part is independent from the stacks
It's just damage

[molten solstice]

wtf the game,i did the seires one training and now i have to repeat it?

[kindred arrow]

Yes
Bug turned feature

[tame jungle]

you get to do the PR1 missions twice yes

[vale spindle]

it's very easy since half of them are already done anyways

[eternal basalt]

Just PR1 though

[woven star]

"Each time this skill's special volley or special barrage hits" 20 sec barrage it's 5th stack or something

[hallow spoke]

Well like i did just get an eugen, does she replace anyone?

[vale spindle]

Not really

[molten solstice]

where should i put all these exp cards???

[turbid marsh]

sadge. i got all of them within 10 pulls, then had to go to 200 pulls for that damned purple

[vale spindle]

On ships you use frequently

[eternal basalt]

Scrap them

[vale spindle]

Oh nvm i misunderstood ignore me

[tame jungle]

oh the combat data packs (i also got confused)

[eager mulch]

combat data packs are for analyzing

[kindred arrow]

Whoop, I EN'd, you're right
Still too slow imo, I actually leveled AlgeM and found the stack thing unimpressive

[hallow spoke]

Is the SR Augment for rossiya worth getting?

[molten solstice]

i mean,i dont think there is any good pr1 ship to unlock so ig i will just scrap

[vale spindle]

for combat data packs its almost always scrap

[vale spindle]

It's better than without it but she's still a mid ship overall

which is the case for most augs

[hallow spoke]

Well my team has nothong better

[vale spindle]

oh no
do you not have Nelson

[hallow spoke]

Not in my dock

[woven star]

do as newbie tips recommendation. there are not so much beginner option as CV you can do. Saratoga and Enty can be your CV options but now just leveled what you have. UR bulins for implac mlb is expensive for you too. but if you get her she is a good option

[turbid marsh]

nelson very easy to get, but you can also do colorado too i guess XD

[worldly pewter]

just use raff uni enty

[hallow spoke]

Ima just make a 2nd fleet, wanna gimme a newbie team for it based on what i have?

[molten solstice]

ok another question,is the certificate of sponsorship good?

[tame jungle]

good on bismarck zwei

[molten solstice]

[vale spindle]

Not really unless you need the effect for mobbing in later stages

[molten solstice]

where can i find more of that core

[tame jungle]

what campaign chapter are you at?

[worldly pewter]

new players don't have the luxury to build the 2nd team right away
although for some events u want to have at least a trp statistics
but in ur situation get 1 team running at least

[hallow spoke]

Finished 6-4 need commander level 50 for 7-1

[tame jungle]

yeah no need for a 2nd fleet just yet, usually there's no need to get a 2nd fleet until like w9-10

[hallow spoke]

So taking that, i can build another team on my way to level 50

[tame jungle]

you're just going to be spreading your precious early-game resources too thin

[hallow spoke]

My team is like dog rn, which i needa stick to newbie team

And my inventory is also pretty bad rn

[worldly pewter]

not only spending resources issue
the bigger issue is that he doesn't have ships to make a 2nd fleet with

[hallow spoke]

I dont even have the ships for my 1st fleet, its complete dead

[woven star]

until you get 9-1 lower chapter maps will be too expensive for oil so no need to level up second fleet

[hallow spoke]

Bolzano as a tank, not very good, sandy is expensive and not built, mont idek atp

[worldly pewter]

i think i remember that i told u to use javlin at some point
looks like u ignored my advice alltogether

[soft raft]

That's not even the reason, more like it's not worth it spreading your resources out among 12 ships instead of 6 that early on

[hallow spoke]

The back is Ross Uni and Enty

[kindred arrow]

Get yourself to oilcap and then you can start worrying about a 2nd fleet

[hallow spoke]

Im worrying about my 1st fleet since it might be my last resort to save my accoint

[tame jungle]

rossiya uni enty will be fine for now (if you can get the bulins for enty)

[hallow spoke]

Thats simple

[worldly pewter]

replace ross with raff and keep using the same vanguards
u don't have any other way

[hallow spoke]

Gon take me 2 weeks but alr

[kindred arrow]

wdym "save your account" you can't brick an account in this game

[hallow spoke]

Raff isnt mlb, Ross is. Ross is also my main dmg for bosses

[woven star]

I don't remember but ships can be higher then cap. level. so better spend all oils on them rather then split it between 2 fleets

[floral forge]

hi guys, I have every UR but due to intermittent playing I'm short on UR bulins. The 4 URs I don't have at MLB are UvH, Rumey, Amagi, and Alsace.. what order do you think I should prioritize? Everyone else is MLB except Napoli and Nakhimov who is close

[hallow spoke]

Its gonna be too painful at some point

[worldly pewter]

get the pass bulin and next event and use them on her
even if she is 0lb her barrage if u have leveled her red skill will outdamage all the ships in ur fleet

[soft raft]

What
If you mean you can do like a lvl 100 LB1 ship that isn't a UR or research ship, that's only on the Chinese client

[hallow spoke]

Wym pass

[soft raft]

Cruise pass

[worldly pewter]

cruise pass

[hallow spoke]

Yea yea mb

[tame jungle]

fortnite battle cruise pass

[woven star]

no I mean even if his cap. level 50 or lower he still can have level 70 ships

[hallow spoke]

Ima throw all of it on barrage then

[kindred arrow]

Don't worry, everyone here experienced newbie growing pains
At most you'll spend more time to get there but you'll get there anyways

[hallow spoke]

I could probably get another URB from protoype to lb2 raff

[soft raft]

As in commander level?
I mean it would've been stupid as hell for ship lvl to be capped at Commander lvl considering that it takes like 3 years of consistent play to get to commander lvl 120+

[worldly pewter]

yeah lb2 raff with mk6 will carry u so hard trust

[woven star]

true. but as I said I don't remember

[hallow spoke]

Mk6? Im so confused lmao im kinda slow

[molten solstice]

how many core data do i get from one hard mode stage?

[floral forge]

anyone? lol

[molten solstice]

in like,9.4

[soft raft]

Higher world = more core data per run

At max of 30 per run at W13

[worldly pewter]

triple 406mm mk6 it is a beginner mission reward u should have it at least on rossya now

[hallow spoke]

Lemme check

[molten solstice]

per run??when you say run you mean every fleet that i win?

[kindred arrow]

This gun: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_6)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

[molten solstice]

or the stage itself

[soft raft]

Prob Amagi CV > Rumey > Alsace > UvH

[worldly pewter]

u get 3 runs per day
so 30x3

[soft raft]

Run = stage clear

[woven star]

you know in some games awakening for heroes can be after level 20 of commander. I just didn't remember what was there before

[floral forge]

I was thinking something similar but just wanted to check, ty 💜

[hallow spoke]

Yea i do

[molten solstice]

oh my god why is it so low...

[hallow spoke]

So i replace ross with raff after raff is lb1 or 2

[worldly pewter]

make it lvl 10 and go to polaris war archive i hope u have been collecting the tickets

[worldly pewter]

when u have her red skill leveled to 8

[hallow spoke]

K

Its level 4 rn, i js threw it in tactical just now

[hallow spoke]

I have like 40 lmao

i run through polaris with raff in my team right?

[worldly pewter]

if u are running low on oil u should start saving for the next event probably since u will not be able to do oil capped maps

[hallow spoke]

I have a bit too much oil

Like 4.5k and a weekly pack to collect

Plus commissions

So 9k to spend

Do i run through polaris with raff or no

Like rn though shes lb0

[worldly pewter]

u can start saving in wednesday then but running non oil capped maps will drain that 9k in a blink of an eye

[hallow spoke]

K

[worldly pewter]

the issue with an underleveled skill is the consistency
u can try and clear it with raff first then see how it goes

[crisp geode]

Are these worth the oil?

[jaunty vault]

not really

[zinc hedge]

4,5k is not that much.. I burn 15k oil a day in oil caps maps,

[jaunty vault]

cap

[undone plover]

daily oil income is closer to 5k

[onyx chasm]

Just got her, do I wanna go for someone else now?

[undone plover]

can u do anchorage/FdG/Agir?

[onyx chasm]

Lemme see

[jaunty vault]

try to get roon if you cannot get above ships

roon and monarch do not have unique augments right?

[onyx chasm]

How do I get this

[undone plover]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[worldly pewter]

the easiest way is to mlb the heavy weighted eagle ships

[onyx chasm]

Hm

[worldly pewter]

formi gives a lot of tech ?

[onyx chasm]

Formi?

Do i go for roon or monarch since I can get either