gameplay-help

[hoary relic]

btw how long will it take us to collect 50 pieces for an UR gear from researches?

[tame jungle]

can take a couple months

[south sequoia]

2 - 3 months is average

[boreal wagon]

assuming you pick proper researches

[crimson glacier]

probably closer to 2-4

[hoary relic]

1 more thing, i remember i have finished series 1 training missions

[boreal wagon]

they appear twice yes

[hoary relic]

but why i havent unlocked series 2 yet

[boreal wagon]

you have to finish PR1 twice

[hoary relic]

oh i get it

[solar canopy]

Is there a delay system in AL now? I feel like when I click something it gets delayed even though my internet connection and device are able to handle it.

[crimson glacier]

probably less of a system and more of a game just being ancient

[solar canopy]

It seems so, there was just an update and now the delay is not felt. Hopefully there will be no more delays

[hallow mountain]

What's the Research Group for Ryuusei blueprints?

I need 2 of these planes for Shinano

Farming the Crimson archive event stage isn't efficient

[wind hazel]

it's random

[hallow mountain]

Wtf

[dreamy blade]

they are also craftable in gear lab

but why do you specifically need 2 for shinano?

[hallow mountain]

I haven't finished OpSi

Will do so tonight since the event finished already

[hallow mountain]

For fighters and torpedo planes

[frigid elbow]

for Fritz Rumey Aux Weapon, which is better to equip with for w15-3 and w15-4 Boss, AA gun or CL/BB gun?

[dreamy blade]

if you are new just use purple tenzans since they craft into the ryusei

[wind hazel]

AA

[hallow mountain]

In Gear Lab?

I think you need other materials though for Ryuusei in Gear Lab

[dreamy blade]

yes, but also if you are new you probably shouldnt be trying to use what is i assume a 0 LB shinano

[hallow mountain]

It's MLB Shinano

[dreamy blade]

you need opsi mats + a tenzan to craft the ryusei

[hallow mountain]

I have the Tenrai for her

[dreamy blade]

and also she doesnt need to use that torp bomber specifically, the other converging tbs are fine like the saiun from pr4

but yeah just finish opsi since needing it for gear is a recurring theme

[hallow mountain]

Atm I'm using the gold barracuda which works alright

[dreamy blade]

barracuda is a parallel torp which is better for mobbing but not bosses

[hallow mountain]

Wait just lemme send a screen

Yeah I know hence why I need the Ryuusei

[worldly pewter]

ryuusei is needed for boss fighting and up until now i never had one on shinano

the plane is very slow and sinano doesn't have good rld

[left cedar]

timming for CVs are essential
Ryuusei generally goes to faster CVs like Impla cuz they are goddamm fast

but that dosnt mean Shin or Haky never gona use them

[wind hazel]

i use double ryusei

[tame jungle]

nano haku amagi i use 4

[cobalt rapids]

use 6 vit2

[tame jungle]

i only got 2

[astral oar]

bro @viscid swift what item can i substitute for type 1 shell?

i only have 1 of those but i do have 800 cores already independence, do i get the white or black shell? who do i give them to?

[rapid grail]

this is like a 1-3 day escapade, not really an issue on emulators but def is on phone
enjoy clearing explorables in the first days of each and every month

[cobalt rapids]

aim for 2-3 white shells and 1-2 black shells before indep
u can replace shells with purple white shell and purple fire radar for poverty

[quick mason]

Where to get a lot of T3 plates in campaign? Especially auxiliary

[cobalt rapids]

they drop everywhere starting with w6

[quick mason]

Ahhh

[cobalt rapids]

aux t3 poverty early game is normal

[quick mason]

Okay okay

[dreamy blade]

dont be afraid to be stingy with purple aux plates and just leave lower prio auxes at +6

[frigid elbow]

is there anywhere to farm T4 Parts?

[ivory pawn]

OpSi is the primary source.

[dreamy blade]

gold plates? opsi and it's not really "farmable", they are the rarest resource in the game basically

even endgame players can never get enough

[rapid grail]

hidden, abyssal, stronghold nodes, arbiters (both versions)
then c3 or c5 depending on how much time you have
all of them in opsi

the only non-opsi sources are either in daily raids and the guild shop

[dreamy blade]

and event milestones

[ivory pawn]

And weekly missions.

[vestal yoke]

at which chapter should I start farming campaign missions?

[forest palm]

world 12 +

[nimble knoll]

Any Aug Of these ships shud I get? (Already got Sandy's)

[vague igloo]

what is the max level that I can reach with the cognitive arrays

[ivory pawn]

125.

[ivory pawn]

There’s a couple to consider later, but only if you actively use the ship. No point wasting coin on Augments if you’re not going to be using the ship more regularly.

Saratoga, Roon, Hood, and maybe Tashkent are the ones I see.

[nimble knoll]

Gotcha

[vestal yoke]

can someone link me the beginner's guide site?

[ivory pawn]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[hallow mountain]

She's very good with timing. Usually I hold back on sending the planes until they're all ready. 6/6 with a full cv team

[tame jungle]

that's not what we refer to with timing (usually we assume autobattle)

[hallow mountain]

Speed isn't really needed when I usually use her for boss

Oh I thought you meant manual

Yeah I just do manual

[forest palm]

this channel always assumes Auto, unless you say other wise

[simple marten]

I just pulled Kii and I just want to ask whether or not Kii is a good character for a Lvl 32 beginner?

[simple marten]

And Houston too

[sinful escarp]

so-so i think, but i would hold back on pulling for now

there is an upcoming UR rerun soon
no exact date but its close maybe

[simple marten]

[honest stirrup]

Houston is no, Kii could work but try to not invest in too many SR (gold) ships as they're too expensive

[storm heron]

It depends what other ships you have, but probably not due to bulin scarcity. Since you're new, we have tips and frequently asked questions in /guide

Also next ULTRA RARE event is the upcoming wednesday

[simple marten]

I'm gonna learn to save and not gamble wisdom cubes😭

[storm heron]

no reason to gamble for something weak

[keen sable]

you mean you didn't pull vv aquila volga with your first 3 pulls??

[river junco]

If it’s implacable rerun I’m not sure that’s something you want to skip if you don’t have, she is a great stopper for CV fleets and is a UR CV nvm read that wrong

[livid thunder]

What are the best shelling main guns for BB?

[atomic abyss]

depends on what enemy you're facing
if it's light armour - the mk7 (NJ gun) and mk6
if med armour - the rafael gun, otherwise the champagne/soyuz/flandre guns
if heavy armour - the champagne/soyuz/flandre guns

if you're using musashi then she only uses IJN guns

[livid thunder]

Ok 👍 I was asking because I was grinding exp for one of my BBs

[atomic abyss]

in that case it doesnt really matter which one you use, as long as it isnt inherently bad

[nimble knoll]

Champy is gud for heavy also?

[atomic abyss]

you have nothing else after all

tho usually you dont even use BBs for heavy

[livid thunder]

While I am at it does this work for rafaelo ?

[atomic abyss]

the exception is musashi, who doesnt use any of those guns to begin with

[storm heron]

what are the other options, 457s and something like 460s

[atomic abyss]

457 and musashi gun yes
tho 457 isnt preferred for bosses

[astral oar]

what does autoloader do?

[atomic abyss]

i mean it works...
i am very concerned why you have a twin 381 at +11 but yeah it'll work

[storm heron]

adds massive rld and some fp

[livid thunder]

I am aware that the augment does not match the HE gun but the is partially on purpose

[astral oar]

can i use them as stop gap for shells?

[atomic abyss]

to put it bluntly, main purpose is increase rld stat
not really

[livid thunder]

Old reused gun from when I had nothing else

[atomic abyss]

stop gap for shell would be the fire control radars

[storm heron]

stop gap?

[nimble knoll]

?

[astral oar]

yeah

[storm heron]

what is stop gap?

[atomic abyss]

[astral oar]

[storm heron]

like breakpoints!

[nimble knoll]

Mi got confused cuz no mention..

[atomic abyss]

anyways loaders can be used as a stop gap
tho it doesnt even fill the same role so

[livid thunder]

Just asking but what would be a better option cause the fast reload gun I have doesn’t seem much better

[storm heron]

oh so like poverty

[atomic abyss]

yes, except stopgap is a proper term in english

not a game slang

[atomic abyss]

right is just utter shit and im not even sure why you kept it lol
even the left is very questionable

personally i'd just scrap both to get your t4 plates back...

you're better off using a low upgrade gun if you really want to stunt the damage

[livid thunder]

Well simply put because I build ships I want to play even when they aren’t meta

[atomic abyss]

tho given the levels and lack of LB, i dont think you need to go that far

that's not really relevant tho

[livid thunder]

I think my musashi is properly built

[atomic abyss]

all the more for bad ships to have good gear

to make up for the fact they're.... bad

gear makes or breaks a ship more than the ship itself

[livid thunder]

Well yes if had the gear to equip everyone…

[astral oar]

as long as you can consistently farm 12-4 then its okay

[atomic abyss]

i mean my dude

the best poverty options for BB guns are ALL PURPLE

[tame jungle]

maybe you do have the gear to equip everyone
you just gotta swap it around

[atomic abyss]

even purple guns beat those 2 gold guns

[atomic abyss]

the mk6 is a purple gun

[livid thunder]

For the record I believe the purple is better (if I recall correctly but that just hurts my soul)

[atomic abyss]

both are excellent for musashi and have different uses

[astral oar]

okay to end all these arguments just show us all your equipments and ships

[atomic abyss]

the latter is the other poverty option for BBs

if you have no excellent gear to put on your other ships, use the mk6 and the twin 410

those are extremely good poverty options that can compete with the best guns

[livid thunder]

I really don’t like this but okay
BRB
I am going to get flame so bad for this XD

[atomic abyss]

idk man, i just feel like your actions dont correlate with your goals

it's fine to use ships that arent necessarily good

but all the more it's important to equip them correctly

[atomic abyss]

or at least to a decent extent

[astral oar]

trusts me its not so bad, im new player too and ive done earlier this day

[tame jungle]

using ships that are necessarily good is just AL endgame tech grind lol

[storm heron]

welcome to gameplay-help

[astral oar]

so many gold 406

[livid thunder]

That is the issue I am not a new player by any means… been here since anniversary 3

[astral oar]

wow

[livid thunder]

I just fool around a LOt

[storm heron]

3 +7 SAP guns

[livid thunder]

Yeah ima remove those right now

[nimble knoll]

Since Implac rerun is soon, mi just wanna know what would be good CV's to pair with her, And would Shinano be better than YT2? (If they're the same lvl and MLB ofc)

[storm heron]

without context, shinano is better for heavy armor fights

[atomic abyss]

tbh, it's an either or...

yk2 and shinano both are very restrictive on team comp

[storm heron]

it's not like you can do any other CV setup other than something like yk2 enty implac for now, probably after shinano mlb and you get haku or amagi then you unlock another comp, namely shinano hakuryuu implac

[atomic abyss]

ideally you'd use both together with impla to get more out of your CVs from UR unga bunga

but that just doesnt work

for now, stick with yk2 impla enty

shinano will not be used unless haku is also there tbh

[atomic abyss]

these are your "poverty options"
or what you can throw on your other ships

[livid thunder]

That is a good question against heavy armor is shinano and hakuryu still the best or would Amagi work better….
I don’t know where UR amagi fits

[atomic abyss]

haku gets kicked out

so amagi shinano implacable

[livid thunder]

Okay

Is that a big upgrade to damage ?

[atomic abyss]

not very big
but big enough to make an impact

[nimble knoll]

[atomic abyss]

amagi is just better than nano and haku
and also buffs them really well

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[atomic abyss]

by far the best anti heavy CV

[whole crypt]

amagi scales with more torps

[livid thunder]

Well I need to move some gear then brb

[storm heron]

what are mogs

[atomic abyss]

the mogami bosses on w14 clearly

[whole crypt]

[storm heron]

what are these gph reference

[whole crypt]

it's actually mogador but not like it matters

[storm heron]

also I tried the so called jintsuu one shot comp with 3 +13 hvars and 1 +12 skyraider and +13 nj gun or +10 kear gun, and 43 avi tech, couldn't kill

[whole crypt]

for the record amagi also somewhat restricted to wanting IJN ships

[storm heron]

+13 kear gun is that important or what

[livid thunder]

Question is it necessary to have amagi full limit break to put torpedo bombers in first gear slot?

[whole crypt]

I'm just 2-shotting Jintsuu on my sub account with Bis/Soy/Als

[livid thunder]

I mean considering it gives percentage damage it certainly helps

[whole crypt]

you don't want to use without MLB, not only are there limits to what planes you can use she also has less planes

[storm heron]

well +13 nj gun apparently loses to it just due to jintM's skills

[whole crypt]

this is besides harder syncing without fleet tech

[storm heron]

maybe should've tried +13 nj gun with autoloader and table to get that 4th shot

[whole crypt]

depends on timing because proto 406 is slow

[storm heron]

they both got 3 shots in, but jintM has this skill which makes her receive more damage 50s in

[whole crypt]

more precisely she has damage reduction in the earlier half

[livid thunder]

What is the jintsuu one shot team? And what is the concept at play here does jintsuu have a skill that helps with aircraft damage?

[storm heron]

also probably shouldn't have discussed this since I got 25,492 points already

[whole crypt]

I'm not looking to oneshot her on my sub acc anyway

Jintsuu just has damage reduction in the first 50s or so which makes it advantageous to squeeze in later strikes

[storm heron]

https://youtu.be/qevTFzjuxJE?si=1EI23mg4yWpg7zxO

[whole crypt]

oh stig cooked up something?

[livid thunder]

Ah i wasn’t aware that you where talking about meta showdown sry

[storm heron]

yeah stig and like cheeky

[turbid marsh]

jintsuu easy now XD 3bb would work too

[whole crypt]

well my kear pair not ready on sub acc so I'm sticking to 2shot BB

[storm heron]

wrong time for me to ask eh? every people who cared has slept

[keen sable]

amagii can never put tb in first slot so...

[whole crypt]

bis/soy/als/52/mog/ply does like 60% with ok gear

[turbid marsh]

i mean thats fine already. i used als bis vanguard z52 aurora eld

[livid thunder]

Quickly going back to my questions on fast fire BB guns
Is this one good?

[storm heron]

that's not fast firing

looks twin but actually slow

[livid thunder]

Oh ok

[keen sable]

on one ship in the game probably

[storm heron]

anyways that gun is can be BiS for Musashi

[whole crypt]

it's still good on Musashi in some cases

[livid thunder]

Forget what I wrote

[livid thunder]

Which case?

[storm heron]

what's the rld required for it on musashi to 4 shots without autoloader again?

[whole crypt]

when you need to use an autoloader with izumo gun on some timing cases

[whole crypt]

assume max

[livid thunder]

So it’s a question of the other gun not being fast enough by a small margin?

[turbid marsh]

without autoloader musashi 4 shots? that's kinda unheard of though

[keen sable]

autoloader izumo is fast enough

[livid thunder]

Also …. Izumo ?_?

[worldly pewter]

when i use daisen gun musasi always fires first before alsace and soyuz

[whole crypt]

pr1 triple 410

[turbid marsh]

alsace i understand, soyuz??

[worldly pewter]

soyuz fires the last one

[storm heron]

I don't think musashi has preload

[whole crypt]

just be like me don't use soyuz with musashi

[livid thunder]

Oh that is the gun I put on musashi (I had to check the image of the gun I am bad with names)

[storm heron]

I had a soyuz musashi lineup in my abandoned alt, but it was something like izumo radar autoloader and champagne radar autoloader for 3 bb rld

[nimble knoll]

The angels feather would be good to use if you don't have enough gold steam catas right?

[livid thunder]

Also why use auto loader ? Does get you an additional shot?

[whole crypt]

in showdowns with a maxed Musashi you need a bit more rld to get the 4th salvo proper

[keen sable]

why do you have or consider an angel feather where's your frontier medal instead

[whole crypt]

daisen gun is slightly faster letting you use a shell instead, which adds up better

[nimble knoll]

What's Frontier Medal? (And where can I get it?)

[livid thunder]

Oh so it’s specifically for meta showdown ?

[storm heron]

time to low cost 7-4 or push to 15-3 to get the frontier medal

[keen sable]

by doing collections

[whole crypt]

if I need a placeholder avi I'd just use purple gas or pult

[rose whale]

can we craft this torp yet?

[storm heron]

I guess feather is good to use, not good to buy

[livid thunder]

So should I put auto loader on musashi and Bismarck 2 for meta showdown ? Do I also need one for vanguard to make sure she shoots first?

[nimble knoll]

I'm quite cooked on that..

[keen sable]

autoloader is not how you make someone shoot first

[eager mulch]

two autoloaders however

[storm heron]

are you at 12-4 rn?

[livid thunder]

Well I am trying to understand feel free to explain

[nimble knoll]

Would it be worth using Xp packs on them to get the medal?

[keen sable]

hsfcr is how you make someone shoot first

[nimble knoll]

Only at 12-1 for Xp farming.. (Can do 12-2 but meh)

[storm heron]

well on who? you need like 10 stars for the thing right

[calm ledge]

If you have a CV with a flex slot is there ever a situation where you'd want multiple fighters

[nimble knoll]

13, and on the three ships needed to be MLB to get the medal

[keen sable]

do they know 12-2 is better than 12-1?

[livid thunder]

This my current lineup for BB ( I think I need change vanguard gun) is there anything else I need to change ?

[nimble knoll]

For Xp to oil ratio?

[forest palm]

your main guns are a mess

[livid thunder]

Oh ok

[keen sable]

as long as you have a reserve for critical replacements which should be very few at this point, this is what xp packs are for

[storm heron]

iirc it takes less than 200 exp books, so if u have thousands of them then sure why not

[livid thunder]

I never quite understood that anyway

[reef flume]

You should to triple AP

[whole crypt]

Vanguard should naturally always go first besides preload with the right setup, she's the highest RLD UR BB

[storm heron]

but like Xeno do u really want to waste some efficiency on getting houshou

[forest palm]

there's basically no synergy, the ammo types are different, you're spending Gold plates on a useless gun(Vanguard's Gun), the gun on vanguard is too fast for the others

[eager mulch]

I farmed houshou in W15

it’s got oil cap

[cobalt rapids]

15-3 farmers

[livid thunder]

I dont’ remember there being a HE gun for musashi?

[storm heron]

but Xeno can't get there in this conext

[whole crypt]

only the twin 410s, Musashi isn't that good for light armour anyway

[livid thunder]

Ok

[keen sable]

but she sure does rip through 15 with it

[cobalt rapids]

410kai is about as good as an mk7 on musashi barring synced stuff

[livid thunder]

Who do you use for light armor then?

[nimble knoll]

Oof.. Time to not use my Xp packs for a bit and save up I guess.. (And would the Frontier Medal be worth it In Ur Opinion?)

[eager mulch]

alscasussy

[whole crypt]

if you want a more universal BB fleet BisZwei/Soyuz/Alsace

[reef flume]

You can use triple BB on light armor, but Musashi simply struggle. She is great on medium and best on heavy, but light simply no

[livid thunder]

I fucking wish I dont’ have the last two

[cobalt rapids]

well what do u have?

[whole crypt]

there's literally only 1 light boss where this actually potentially matters

[reef flume]

Wasn't that for medium armor only? For heavy I'd replace Soyuz or use carriers

[nimble knoll]

Maybe? If it can improve my CV's/BB's and beat sum higher difficult stuff then yeh, I'll try and get her for the medal

[storm heron]

she's like sheet

[whole crypt]

this is if you want a triple BB fleet that works decently on all 3 armours

[storm heron]

you raise houshou cause she's tech sheeters

[livid thunder]

To be fair there is a number of ships that I have 100+ and idk why

[nimble knoll]

But would the Medal be Worth it?

[keen sable]

kearsarge...

amagi approves

[whole crypt]

personally I use Musashi/BisZwei/Alsace but the fleet basically never engages light

[cobalt rapids]

u can replace musashi with nj on light

[storm heron]

imo +40 avi on a ship not worth that amount of oil

[eager mulch]

amagi-chan spotted

[whole crypt]

what I use nowadays

[eager mulch]

missing a few oaths

[whole crypt]

I don't oath vanguards for RLD

[cobalt rapids]

what i use nowadays

[nimble knoll]

Welp, If that's the case then I'll just get the Feather for now.. I need sum better for my CV's

[keen sable]

your luck doesn't extend to dropping houshou on first clear?

[livid thunder]

Going back to what he said is that good for ap?

[nimble knoll]

Where does she even drop? #-4 of thingys?

[livid thunder]

Vanguard guns no maxed but I am working on it

[whole crypt]

give Vanguard another one of these

[livid thunder]

Ok

[nimble knoll]

I'm lucky at pulling, Not them dropping from clears

[whole crypt]

Houshou

[nimble knoll]

Well shit.. I'll just wait for w15 for oilcap.. (Or when I have a lot of oil, which probably won't happen cause I can't stop playing AL)

[livid thunder]

Do I need to wait to have a second of the one the right to switch to using it?

[whole crypt]

coming back to 7-4 with a low cost fleet later also works

[nimble knoll]

Should I 1-1 it?

[livid thunder]

My mail is full and I have 20 k oil

[whole crypt]

a boss fleet generally shouldn't be using 457

[forest palm]

should be able to 1:1 7-4 quite easily

[keen sable]

you certainly shouldn't full fleet it...

[nimble knoll]

My mail oil is 0, and I have 2k oil.

[livid thunder]

Oof good luck there

[forest palm]

doesn't matter if your mail is full there's a bank system for Mail Oil and Coin

[reef flume]

Anything I should change?

[livid thunder]

That is almost full cuz I barely use the oil (just using 3k oil daily take about an hour) for me

[forest palm]

Implacable should launch second, so she's a little too fast

[livid thunder]

So what is the use case of that gun?

[livid thunder]

Should she not go first or am I being ignorant again?

[nimble knoll]

Shud I use Uni Or Would that be a skill issue for my lvl 120 Laffeh?

[reef flume]

Can she go last?

[whole crypt]

lategame mobbing, lategame desync, maybe boss fights where the timing works out

Implacable can go last if your timing is tight enough

[livid thunder]

It’s about her slowing enemies down in time for aimed torpedos to hit right?

[whole crypt]

the main thing is the launches will drift for later in the fight if you don't get the timings right

[reef flume]

This better?

She still go first yeh but timing is tighter

[sharp socket]

any potential changes for 15-4

[whole crypt]

that timing should be good enough for most things

[reef flume]

I'm building it for meta fights and heavy armor arbiters/enforcers

[turbid marsh]

i think its doable, your 1st fleet is doing boss 1 and 3?

[sharp socket]

boss fleet for 1 and 3

[livid thunder]

How hard is world 15?

[reef flume]

Voices says it's like world 13 but 1000000000 times worse

[livid thunder]

Hmmm

Aint’ going there anytime soon then XD

[reef flume]

Me too xD

[turbid marsh]

then boss fleet might want other cv? i dont remember mamagi and shinano being that good in w15 than your other cv like implacable/yorktown/independance. but if you dont have, then thats fine, just summon subs should be fine.

[livid thunder]

I like to play thematic fleets to grind The exp for pr ships so I don’t think I stand a chance

Last question for me RN but z52 is a tank of some sorts right? And mogador is for damage?

[sharp socket]

dont have/could raise/available and could try

[turbid marsh]

Z52 is everything XD

[sharp socket]

ill try shinano amagi and if it struggles then shinano gets swapped out i suppose

[turbid marsh]

yeah try first, then adjust. i think should be good with subs. your first fleet is very strong anyways

[sharp socket]

if first fleet can steamroll then i might try mob boss mob

[livid thunder]

Huh really i don’t feel like she does that much dps ? I mean maybe it’s that i didn’t build her well
Also that gun exist because my soul shakes and died as when I see blue gun

[reef flume]

Do you have the 100mm UR gun?

If you do, give her that

[livid thunder]

That one?

[eager mulch]

that’s 138.6mm

[livid thunder]

then I have no clue which gun

[reef flume]

No, the 100mm Kai

[turbid marsh]

why 100mm? that decreases her survivability quite a bit

[livid thunder]

Is it a lab gun?

[reef flume]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_100mm_(Type_98)_Kai

[livid thunder]

Why

[reef flume]

It does? I knew it was the best gun for her

[turbid marsh]

z52 skill requires her to function with the fastest gun possible because each fire tirggers barrage

and amount of barrage = triggers different effects, like heal, slash, damage, damage boost, AA boost,

[livid thunder]

Which is why I use the gun have on right now

Wrong reply lul

[reef flume]

Ion see how the 100 kai gun is bad on her tho. It's fast and also does damage

[livid thunder]

Well the one I use is 0.55 second cooldown

[turbid marsh]

basing my following comment on cn people, but you probably want to have 0.5 second cd, best for damage + survival

[livid thunder]

Right what I thought too but I feel like her barrage doesn’t do much dps

At least compared to the dps matador does

[hollow gust]

The best gun for her is the blue one

She has better dps then both Plymouth and mogador

[livid thunder]

For 0.05 seconds?? Really

[turbid marsh]

idk, i prefer 113 on z52 but 76 is also very good. easy to build too

[livid thunder]

It hurts to see blue so I build the 113

[turbid marsh]

rather than the toolbox, you might want the dragon thing, i forgot the name

[nimble knoll]

Oh naw wtf why can't my lvl 125 Uni and lvl 120 Laffey beat the 7-4 boss 💀

[turbid marsh]

goldburn

[worldly pewter]

missing BB cross fleets

[eager mulch]

should’ve farmed 15-3

[livid thunder]

Goldburn ?

[nimble knoll]

Only at w12 atm

[turbid marsh]

yes, goldburn. but if you dont have that collab item, probably autoloader or something. im actually NOT too sure if her barrage scales fp or trp, maybe a bit of both. i do double dild on taihou and jintsuu meta, both goldburn+autoloader and double dild survived fine.

[nimble knoll]

Would using Shinano's Crossfleet be good to use even if it's not leveled?

[forest palm]

Shinano's butterflys are as effective as a fart in the wind

[livid thunder]

You mean the weird bird statue from the grid man collab?

[nimble knoll]

So only Raff and Yt2's Crossfleet would be useful then

Also even when I'm trying to save oil, Should I use use Sandy instead of Laffey cause she's bettah?

[turbid marsh]

yes, one of the best, worthy of +13, in my opinion

[forest palm]

Laffey would be less, and effective enough

unless you have a DDG

[nimble knoll]

Only a lvl 96 retro Fu Shun

[livid thunder]

I just read what it does never noticed it 38 f*****g reload

[whole crypt]

Z52 is fine with single 113, the speed works out and her barrage damage is substantial

[hollow gust]

113 z52 loses to Plymouth

[nimble knoll]

Dunno if she would be better than a lvl 120 laffey

[forest palm]

7-4 is Lv 77 ~ 78 iirc so you could technically use Fu Shun

[turbid marsh]

oh damn, cause isn't 76 like shorter range or something? thats why i was using 113 the entire time

[hollow gust]

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[livid thunder]

How short cooldown is the full upgrade 76 anyway?

[forest palm]

just default to laffey if it doesn't work out

[rigid onyx]

+13 for a 550 HP Aug is really dubious in my opinion

[rigid onyx]

shorter range, higher rof and then the pellets themselves are weaker. It's better technically with some reload stats and worse at others

mostly because of abs cd

[turbid marsh]

i mean most of the ships i use uses goldburn, and i have plenty general plates lying around so i figured why not.

well mainly plymouth z52 XD

[livid thunder]

How many do you have?

[turbid marsh]

2 goldburns

[livid thunder]

How …. Was there a rerun

[turbid marsh]

yes, everyone got their unique augment in the rerun, and new ships

[livid thunder]

Oh ok

[turbid marsh]

second + princess hime i think

[livid thunder]

Well gentlemen thank you for your help have a good day

[nimble knoll]

Is there truly no other way to get houshou other than w7 and w15? (If theres truly nothing else then I'm cooked.)

[crisp geode]

Any guide on which War Archive event i should focus? Currently tempted to do Ink-stained Steel Sakura for the steam catapults and Kawakaze

[worldly pewter]

u only do sakura wa for hakuryuu tech

[undone plover]

Divergent chessboard for KMS tech to get FdG/Agir

otherwise dont do em until much later
Can try passionate polaris for the cosmic kicks if u lack rudder (the yellow rarity evasion gear)

[cunning bone]

what's wrong with my fleet? 15-3 and I'm confused that even if I defeat the boss it still spawns a mob enemy

[keen sable]

you know 15-3 has two bosses?

[eager mulch]

do they detail this in the tutorial for W15

[cunning bone]

what

[turbid marsh]

do you know 15-4 has 3 bosses?

[tame jungle]

well now you know

[cunning bone]

what

3?!?!

[tame jungle]

yep, not 2, not 4, but 3

[keen sable]

yes 3

[solid hedge]

Hi, what best fleet for jintsuu meta?

[cunning bone]

any tips to survive? thats my mob

[keen sable]

why do you think the sample boss fleets are loaded and have a healer

[crisp geode]

I have the blue rudder and paint only

[turbid marsh]

then probably want to think about... z52/shimanto instead of laffey 2 XD

[cunning bone]

on boss?

boss fleet with alsace

[keen sable]

actually just give up that run

you need to use mob to kill boss on that run btw

you can try it and if it doesn't look good give up.

I assume you killed the first boss with boss fleet already right?

next time kill first boss with mob fleet.

[cunning bone]

so i need to pray that my mob kill the first boss and still has health to kill the 2 mob in order to spawn the 2nd boss?

[cunning bone]

nope used my boss fleet and saw 2 mob enemy spawn and ran away

[keen sable]

that means you did kill first boss with boss fleet?

[shell willow]

triangle bb and the big aviation fleets are stronger than the first 2 bosses, you just cant do the bosses in random order because of the big debuff

[cunning bone]

yep

[keen sable]

so your boss fleet is useless now. you could try killing a mob with it i suppose if it has enough health left but you will have a huge penalty if you try to kill two bosses with it

you're not trying to 3* lethal are you?

[cunning bone]

its my first time doing it, sooo its on lethal i assume?

[keen sable]

yes but are you trying to kill all enemies also?

[cunning bone]

yep...

[keen sable]

just give up then. i don't think it will happen this run. not when mob needs to fight boss 2 with 0 ammo

[turbid marsh]

not a z52 enjoyer eh, i think shimanto should swap with z52 for boss as she provides better aa and smol heals.

[shell willow]

z52 on mob for flagship cover

[gusty arrow]

Are there any fleet for hornet meta?

[sweet delta]

As usual with most content, nobody knows the best, but here's one that's basically 100% win rate if maxed. Leave 3 seconds at the end for Fritz's rockets to hit, so make her fourth strike 77s or earlier. https://mrlar.dev/s/aafcfae122a299fe37819913ba2b68e5a8081831

Lots of fleets can one shot level 4 hormet

[crisp geode]

Is it possible to develop more than one PR1 ship? Started my PR1 with Roon (for PR2 Gruɓe points) and later saw that Izumo has higher priority

[tame jungle]

you can develop all of them eventually, just not at the same time

[sinful escarp]

you can only research one at a time

[solid hedge]

I tried kearsarge, Yorktown....only hit 65 bars 😭

[sinful escarp]

you can switch after 24hrs, but its better to just finish the one you are researching rather than continually switching

[turbid marsh]

what, on lv 4 hormet?

[tame jungle]

jintm

[crisp geode]

Kk, will finish Roon and then go for Izumo

[mellow cape]

I love that aurora is used c:

[sinful escarp]

though i would recommend you do other pr series first

[turbid marsh]

yeah light armor bosses likes to dodge

[sweet delta]

If you can't one shot, then two shot is two shot whether you do 65% or 90%

[mellow cape]

Just a curious question but when it comes to RNG manipulation for weapon research, if I don't dev 30 let's say daisen. Do I still get her face research? I know that if I dev 30 all the ships it resets the face print RNG reducing the amount of weapon research prints I get

[sweet delta]

You're basically done with daisen though, only 50 left

[mellow cape]

Yeahhh but mostly about napoli. I want to keep her non dev 30 to get as many weapons researches as I can

But does it work that way? If I don't dev 30 daisen / upgrade her do I still get her face research in rotation

[sweet delta]

It's a miniscule effect, the best part of it is that you don't waste slots on pr5 or 6 D projects (assuming you did finish those ships)

If you have fewer than 343 daisen bps across your account, then you can get Daisen projects

[mellow cape]

I seee ty, then I guess I won't worry too much about daisen. I did this strat for a long time for gear LOL

When I reach my last ship (typically a DR), Ill delay the completion of their dev 30 and do ANY weapon research / avoid their face research

And I manipulate the RNG so that I get more weapon research to show up

[crisp geode]

Not enough points for other PR ships. Started last week

[sinful escarp]

then i would suggest not to focus on pr ships yet

just continue grinding campaign until you reach maybe w10

[agile blade]

Anyone suggest alt equipment for raffaello bcoz I've just realized I forgot to grind her UR gun

[tame jungle]

(or go to 12 where you can just turbochill for a long time to build your account)

the UR gun doesn't have any special interaction with raffaello, so it's just the standard guns you'd use per situation

[agile blade]

Oh ok

[honest sequoia]

Ive cleared all maps and made it blue
meta coordinates hit 200/200
Is it worth spending all AP stamina to grind the treasure spots?

[turbid marsh]

ye

[novel solstice]

The treasure chests give good rewards for the AP spent.

[honest sequoia]

worth spending even i hit 200/200 meta coordinates daily?

[turbid marsh]

ofc

[wind hazel]

you're supposed to do them

[honest sequoia]

cuz idk how to get them besides clearing map nodes and siren stronghold and dailies

[wind hazel]

well except maybe the 2 cause they are kinda ass drops

[novel solstice]

Yeah, you should have more than enough AP to hit all the meta coordinates every day.

[honest sequoia]

Alr thx

[honest sequoia]

so ignore the blue coordinates
but clear all purple?

[crisp geode]

Kinda stuck at 9-4 rn

[turbid marsh]

clear all coordinates

[wind hazel]

just open your ap boxes until almost 200, open strategic search, hidden, tick 4 5 6 zones

[honest sequoia]

Alr got it

[wind hazel]

i just realize it's 3 and under

do the 3 manually i guess, or just do them all if you dont wanna minmax

[soft raft]

Hornet META is barely a day old, come back in like a week when the lvl 15 fight is avaliable

[gusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ui-kozeki-ui-yes-blue-archive-agree-gif-1035202279789740811

[glass quest]

I just noticed that there are rainbow sub torps in the Gear Lab, are they worth crafting?

[solid hedge]

Hi, what main gun aurora using here? I can't find it

[forest palm]

don't bother

[forest palm]

it's event limited

[soft raft]

(It's event limited)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(Mle_1930_HE)#Type_0-0

[solid hedge]

Agrh

[glass quest]

so Imma just stick to the Mark 20 Bidder in that case?

[narrow arch]

how do you get core data

[wind hazel]

hard mode

[glass quest]

Clear Hard Mode Stages

[forest palm]

do your HM clears 👏

[narrow arch]

im just wondering so i can eventually get the type 1 ap shell

oh sick ty

[glass quest]

what‘s a good trio to use as subs? just wolfpacks?

[atomic abyss]

flasher archerfish albacore
or
u-81 u-96 u-37

top better than bottom

[glass quest]

I don‘t have Flasher yet, can I use any other sub as substitution?

[narrow arch]

the poverty ap shell i have is crazy, hood does so much its not even funny

[atomic abyss]

then just use the germans

[timid forum]

any point in hoarding logistics plans or just use them to save time?

[forest palm]

you only really use them if you don't have time to play, or there's really good farmable gear on an event node, otherwise they can be ignored

[wind hazel]

good for war archives too if you're spending time there

[forest palm]

[manic fossil]

What's a recommended lineup for nakhimov exp farm?

[sweet delta]

6 ships who need exp, including a main fleet that contributes exp to the task

[manic fossil]

Sry i had to rethink for a second if i was on meme channel. Didn't know this channel accepted trash meme answers

[tame jungle]

nice one X Trollier

[wind hazel]

yo mama fat

[vale spindle]

That's basically the answer since 12-4 is easy enough

[sweet delta]

🚮

[manic fossil]

Been away for 2 years.. so im not sure if my fleet is up to date with "easy" levels

[hollow gust]

[forest palm]

ya'll could not be combative when giving advice

[manic fossil]

And for context.. my only decent ships (for nakhimov farm) that could possibly survive 12-4.. are veneto and aquila.

[stark quiver]

Do 12-1 then

[forest palm]

I mean pick like one CV that you have from here and 2 other BB

[manic fossil]

Ok. I have raffleo.. that might help

Back to the farm 🚜

[forest palm]

also simpler to do 12-1

[tepid crater]

i take it implaccable is a pretty big deal for the meta hornet fight? Not sure if there are any vangaurd -eva skills

[stark quiver]

I don’t think implac will even be used

[forest palm]

we don't have Lv 15 fight yet, so there's no telling what the final teams will look like

[stark quiver]

Seeing the sovetsky fritzimov comp exists

[sweet delta]

Implac does -eva, not -evaRATE

[tepid crater]

oh right I forgot those two are different stats

[sweet delta]

But there are indeed vanguard ships with -evaRATE skills like Bristol and Swiftsure

And Sendai/Trieste/Alfredo

[stone sluice]

Do we know the exact date when implacable rerun is gonna be held?

[forest palm]

the 20th

[turbid marsh]

next week thurs

[stone sluice]

[junior olive]

where can i get Nelson's Pennant of Victory? found somewhere that says in collection but dont see it there

[ivory pawn]

It’s the final reward for max limit breaking Nelson and her sister.

[junior olive]

thanks!

[frank pulsar]

can kear 4 salvo with mk7 in opsi

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, is Spearfish or Wyvern better for campaign mobbing?

[full drum]

how i optain medal of honors?

[eternal moth]

Retiring ships rare or higher

[forest palm]

I prefer Wyvern, specially in later stages, Spearfish is probably more useful in Ops

[forest palm]

what's the average length of the fight?

[frank pulsar]

idr thats why i asked
i only rmb that the fight duration is slightly longer than meta

[eternal moth]

I just realized Kear could use 457... Hmm.

[forest palm]

iirc you need like 82 seconds to 4 salvo

with an MK7

[eternal moth]

I can't really think of a time you'd want her to have a gun that fast, but it might have a use

[clear harbor]

For guild boss raids, is it more important to borrow better ships for my back line or for my vanguard?

[sweet delta]

Borrow good main fleet ships with good gear

[clear harbor]

Makes sense.

[frank pulsar]

is +10 raff gun > +13 soy gun on med

[barren barn]

Hi i tought an ur was coming

[ivory pawn]

Yes, next week.

[barren barn]

Thursday?

[ivory pawn]

As usual.

[barren barn]

I saved 6 bulins i really wanna use them

[ivory pawn]

Good news then, Implac is almost always a top choice to MLB.

[worldly pewter]

i saved 6 bulins and don't wanna use them

[honest stirrup]

Arg I just mlb Z52 and now I'm stuck between Raff and Implac with 1 bulin am I cooked

[undone plover]

u just delay it a bit so not really
but u will have to make a choice who to MLB first

z52 is good to MLB anyway

[worldly pewter]

the good thing about this choice is that they don't overlap

[undone plover]

they do for the bulin
unless u mean both are good choices

[worldly pewter]

they don't overlap in roles

[sweet delta]

Isn't that a bad thing?

[worldly pewter]

it is a good thing more than bad imo

[undone plover]

I think abdou means it is not like making a choice between soyuz alsace musashi and vanguard
so it is an "easy" choice if u know what u want

[turbid marsh]

well you dont really NEED raff lol, so implacable

[worldly pewter]

yeah

[hollow gust]

With Eldridge and nahk around you don't neeed implacable

[sweet delta]

Just pull 5 Implac in 40 free tickets

[shell willow]

i need :sob

[honest stirrup]

Who can I use instead of raff

[worldly pewter]

show ur ur cvs

[undone plover]

musashi is best for mobbing in campaign
for bossing any of the other UR BB will do the job at raffa's level from what I know

[honest stirrup]

Idk man she takes so much damage because of her skill, it's nice to have everyone's at full HP but she's on constant life support

[worldly pewter]

looks like implacable but also am a 3ijn believer so

[undone plover]

are you using a healer?
where is she struggling?
is everything properly geared?
musashi is best BB for mobbing doesnt mean she can solo w15

[sweet delta]

Would you rather have Musashi at 40% HP or unicorn at 0% HP

[crisp raven]

Implac rerun will have a ur bulin at the 15k milestone rewards. And this cruise pass is close to ending, so another ur bulin from the next one soon tm*. Not totally cooked. 🙂

[undone plover]

try it against jintsuu

[worldly pewter]

i don't have anything ready for that fight

[undone plover]

~~what was all that HVAR farming for then ~~

[honest stirrup]

One and a half (Volga, Uni)
15-4 out of ammo fights
Pretty sure they are...? Idk
Not sure what soloing means

[undone plover]

I see
well....
1- does she actually die? low hp musashi is not a problem if she doesnt die
2- if u are actually struggling it might be another issue, not musashi, u can make a thread and show us the issue

[worldly pewter]

do u want to 15-4 3☆ on lethal or something ?

[honest stirrup]

It's not too much of a struggle, I'm just trying to 3* 15-4 before 100% completing it

[undone plover]

yeah that is a tall order
u can make it easier by putting perseus on boss fleet so u get x-fleet heals
make sure u leave the weakest mobs (1-2 triangles) for the out of ammo fights
use subs for the out of ammo fights
lethal 3 star 15-4 is probably the hardest thing atm outside of meta one shots

[honest stirrup]

Funnily enough I've tried using NJ instead of Musachi, and I'm currently working on Alsace for boss fleet and it tends to work slightly better on the long term, so maybe it's an AA problem but I don't see how I can improve AA capabilities while using Shimanto and San Diego with the UR AAs

[sweet delta]

Musashi can use aa radar

[undone plover]

also make sure your support fleet is using strong CV and correct planes
make sure your mob is staggered
the basic stuff

[honest stirrup]

OH that's why I wanted Implacable thanks I totally forgot about that

[undone plover]

hwah jah is currently also one of the best CV for that spot
if u dont mind retrofitting her
better than implacable iirc

what is your current support fleet?

[honest stirrup]

Illustrious, Indomitable and...
centaur

[sweet delta]

Wanting Implacable because she's one of the best freeze CVs
Wanting Implacable for support fleet

[honest stirrup]

yes I know Centaur only has 4 planes which kinda sucks for support but I've been in desperate search for fighter CVs

[undone plover]

use hwah jah
well anyway if u struggle can come back to ask for specific advice
and make a thread
musashi is probably the best BB for 3 star lethal* 15-4
Unless bisko + certificate is better idk

[honest stirrup]

Well I do have Hwah Jah retrofit level 100 so I'll look into it

[undone plover]

u could also just clear it
make it safe
then 3 star it if u just want to be done with it

[honest stirrup]

Do the certificate work on Bisk Zwei?

[stark quiver]

would the new UR gun be really good for 15-3 bosses?

[undone plover]

should be good yeah
better than 457 tho ?
depends on timing of barrages, salvoes and waves etc

[narrow arch]

The higher level hard modes you do, do you only get the chance to get higher tier BPs or does it also increase the amount you get

[keen sable]

but you get more core data so

[narrow arch]

Oh yeah I forgot about core data, I was just wondering because i need to retrofit both Portland and helena. I was just wondering if you get more blueprints from doing higher level hard modes

[undone plover]

it is possible and u should do higher stage anyway

[tame jungle]

the answer is maybe
you do get more core data from higher maps tho

[narrow arch]

I should be saving specialized cores for the rainbow bulin right?

[tame jungle]

yup

[narrow arch]

Alright sick

[mellow cape]

Just wondering, since only URs I'm missing RN are Amagi CV, Eldridge, and Mog. How much would Amagi CV add to my current roster?

[hollow gust]

She is the best anti heavy CV in the game

Before Fritz came along, Amagi was a really good 3rd CV

[mellow cape]

How does fritz compare to Amagi?

[sweet delta]

Better light, usually better medium, and better campaign

[vernal minnow]

what does eliminate threat mean exactly? I 3 starred it but only at 34%, cant do the next stage

[harsh gust]

keep repeating it until it gets to 100%

you need to beat the stage several times

[narrow arch]

What are combat data packs used for

[jaunty vault]

yeah you need 100% to progress to next stage

[jaunty vault]

which one

[narrow arch]

Any of them

These things

[jaunty vault]

they uhh

fulfill exp requirements for shipyard missions

it is recommended to analyse them

[narrow arch]

Oh alr ty, I read it and was just confused what it meant

Oh ok

I'm guessing the prototype cores you get from doing that will be used to get the rainbow blueprints if there's any super good ones in the shop?

[jaunty vault]

gold ones first

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[narrow arch]

Oh hey the dive bomber is there right now

They don't have anything other than that and the CL gun. The store changes and the gold ones will be in there right?

[boreal wagon]

the store doesnt really change line up on a rotation

the reason you dont immediately see the other gear is because they are granted by the golden questionmark blueprints you see

you can click on those and then the "info" below their icon to see whats in them each

[narrow arch]

Oh i see now

My bad, I didn't read those

[timid forum]

what's more rational to craft first: yellow augment for laffey or 3-4 purple ones for others ships?

[jaunty vault]

latter probably

more versatile

[turbid marsh]

what is... purple ones? as in toolbox?

[jaunty vault]

purple augments

as in general augments

[turbid marsh]

for laffey, ofc her own augment.

[timid forum]

these ones

i have resources to craft purples for others, like unicorn, enterprise, helena, portland or to craft 1 yellow for laffey

[sweet delta]

Save

[timid forum]

for what? will there be better options?

[sweet delta]

Also don't craft purples from scratch. Wait until you get blue or purple from augment weekly raid. Blue can be upgraded to purple for cheaper than crafting purple from scratch

The problem with laffey augment is that laffey will be kicked from your fleets sooner than later. And augment materials are quite timegated, so choose wisely (like ) https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules/

[keen sable]

~~someone does that besides me? ~~

[timid forum]

so i can upgrade blue to purple and save up rest materials for future?

[sweet delta]

Are you really not going to have any high priority gold augment ships anytime soon?

[timid forum]

i'm playing for 5 days, not really

[sweet delta]

Purple augments are not that impactful to be worth delaying San Diego for

[desert tapir]

Who is the best CV to pair with Yorkii and Enty for a boss fight

[sweet delta]

Usually Kearsarge, Implac, or fritz. Or two of them with yorkii and kick Enty

[elfin hollow]

what faction was the ur event?

[desert tapir]

Pasta

[elfin hollow]

okok

[timid forum]

hood augment is good, right?

[sweet delta]

~~I thought someone named "bologna" would know ~~

[elfin hollow]

lol

is napoli better to dev 30 first or the cat one

[sweet delta]

Yeah it's good

[elfin hollow]

akane has a augment didn't even know that

[sweet delta]

Nakhimov has been and is still more useful, especially if you have Soyuz

[elfin hollow]

oh shit nice

stupid question prob but warkai still relevant?

[jaunty vault]

no

[sweet delta]

She's relevant for getting your collection% up

[elfin hollow]

i'm a returning player so i'm just catching up

[desert tapir]

For A main fleet of Yokii, Enty, Implac does flag matter? (I don't see anything in skills suggesting it would but figured I should ask)

[sweet delta]

If it's opsi, then Enty should be flag for eagle union cross fleet bonuses and cross fleet damage

[desert tapir]

Nah just meta face-palming as the realized they typed in boss first time

[sweet delta]

Then there are no significant differences for position

[brazen hornet]

For dorm, currently have Sorcerer Cabin set. Can I buy other sets to increase comfort level or do I have to buy individual pieces of furniture to get to 503 83%

[trim sparrow]

Thoughts on Hwah retro? Makes her pretty stronger? Or not really worth?

[harsh gust]

Not really sure what you asking about
Furniture contributes to comfort regardless if it's placed or not, up to a certain cap (as in, only X of each type of furniture that have the highest comfort will actually 'count')
without buying gem furniture you will eventually reach a soft cap, but going above it by buying it isn't very useful

[brazen hornet]

Thanks, is there a guide to show which dorm set currently gives the most gains? The sets seem to be priced different decor tokens because of a lack of furniture in the set?

[harsh gust]

it'll tell you when you buy it
if it says +0 it means you reached the cap and buying that set/item won't actually increase your comfort

[turbid marsh]

one of the best support fleet in w15, but thats it.

[trim sparrow]

Copy that, thanks I’ll probably work on her then

[brazen hornet]

Thank you

[turbid marsh]

think the best to do is rumey+chenhai retro + hwah retro for w15 support fleet.

[trim sparrow]

For sure right on. I actually havent even done 14 yet haha, been too lazy. Ill make sure to raise those 2 dragon for w15 tho

[full drum]

Kirow is okay?

[turbid marsh]

meta wise.. pretty decent i guess. she is one of the older cl so probably want to look into other frontlines...

[sweet delta]

Yeah meta version is pretty decent

[wintry obsidian]

Does anyone else feel Raffaello is somewhat underwhelming compared to UR battleships so far? Both Zwei and Musashi seem much stronger

[viscid swift]

well she is a mobbing BB

[turbid marsh]

she is able to make sure those chinese purple dds not die at lv105 in 15-1 farm XD

[wintry obsidian]

I still prefer Alsace, Musashi and Zwei. One has a good preload and the other have destructive barrages

[turbid marsh]

oh yeah for boss fights or for campaign clearing, zwei and musashi are preferred as, well, unicorn and aquila/volga are enough as we have z52 eldkai shimanto for survivability. im just talking about 15-1 chip farm/frontline exp farm would be easier now.

[wintry obsidian]

I'll have to try out 15-1 for frontline exp farming. How much more efficient is it than 12-4 or 13-4?

[viscid swift]

it isn't, you're trying to improve cog chip gain while still farming some XP doing 15-1

[turbid marsh]

for JUST frontline exp, sure its a tad bit better.... less than 10% or something i believe last time i checked the oil exp efficiency

[wintry quartz]

is pr5 getting fate sim? cuz i got 150ply bps and 126 brest bps that i could use for the proto shop

[wintry obsidian]

Well, I don't have to worry about cog chips at least. Got 173,976 and don't think I'll run out anytime soon

[turbid marsh]

then why bother with 15-1? if you got that many, i dont think you finished backlines yet?

12-4 would be much more... easier to do

[eternal basalt]

They... already have??? If you mean DR5 then They are done randomly

[viscid swift]

read the question a bit closer...

[storm heron]

173,976... does that sound like normal amount for someone who has completed all techs?

[wintry obsidian]

I did sort of complete them. Just didn't bother with the ship I didn't like or need

[turbid marsh]

oh so thats a no

[wintry quartz]

ah ok idk how it works

[eternal basalt]

All lvl 9 is nowhere near "complete all techs"

[turbid marsh]

probably want to click fleet and then see that 5 digit number up there. should be closer to 41000 to be completed XD

[wintry quartz]

wait so should i just spend if i got max dev lvl

[wintry obsidian]

Like I said, I didn't bother with those I didn't like. Though I could easily lvl carriers with Houshou and Langley

[eternal basalt]

If you want to get ALL the prints back when they eventually release

[wintry quartz]

ok i get it

it comes out randomly but eventually they all get it

[viscid swift]

when we say tech we mean leveling ships to 120 for their perma stat bonus

so most of the ships in that screen shot would be 120 plus a whole lot more

[wintry quartz]

idk how ive played the game for this long and habve no clue what im doin 😭

[eternal basalt]

413, doesn't even have all ships

[wintry quartz]

413 means level????

[storm heron]

dock space

[sweet delta]

The max commander level is 200

[wintry quartz]

thats wat i thought

[eternal basalt]

It's in response to HighWarden

[wintry obsidian]

What's your go-to map for leveling battleships? Not all of them can handle 13-4

[storm heron]

12-1 or 12-4

or 12-2 or 12-3 if you somehow haven't gut junyou or hiyou

[viscid swift]

12-1 for everything, not just BBs

[sweet delta]

why do you want to gut them?

[wind spindle]

So.....How do i get out of this situation. Boss is dead, timer ran out. selecting another stage gives me a pop up, retreat does nothing just closes the page. clicking go brings me back into the mission

[eternal basalt]

Reboot the game

[wind spindle]

i don't know why that happened. it was my first launch of the day.

Thank you

[jaunty vault]

it happens when your game and the game server desyncs

[eternal basalt]

Eeeeh... it seems like a common issue when time-ing out, not related to desync

[jaunty vault]

sounds like desync

[eager mulch]

sounds like desync

[tough wadi]

good for who?

[eager mulch]

BBs against medium armor bosses

[blissful hamlet]

The supply shop didn't refresh 4 hours ago, was there a bug?

The general shop always refresh at the same time as pvp reset but it didn't refresh around 4 hours ago

[honest stirrup]

Kill the boss specifically

[blissful hamlet]

Can anyone confirm or am I high

[eager mulch]

high as a kite

[blissful hamlet]

Are you real or are you being ironic

It didn't refresh 4 hours ago, but which is 12.00 according to the server time

[atomic abyss]

at the end of the day

[little tree]

Janus spotted

[atomic abyss]

if you can't actually prove it, it's meaningless to claim it anyways

and i dont think you went around screenshotting shops so

[sweet delta]

Or it refreshed, but you rolled the exact same items in the exact same slots

[weary gust]

I wonder what the chance of that would be

[eternal basalt]

Low

[blissful hamlet]

I bought this after the daily reset and now 16hrs later the supply hasn't been refresh

Either the shop didn't refresh or someone open my game and bought that item while I slept

and no, I didn't bought that item while I slept too

[atomic abyss]

You did try restarting the game I assume?

[blissful hamlet]

yes I open the game multiple time after I woke up

[atomic abyss]

I mean again, as much as I would like to believe you, there's no way for you to prove that it didn't reset
Unless you happened to take a screenshot of the shop earlier and now

[crisp raven]

DST was on sunday. is the time change affecting your internal memory for the shop reset time? when you first asked in here, 4 hours ago would have still been 10 mins before next reset.

[weary gust]

Seems to me the most reasonable explanation is he bought that right after the shop reset.

[blissful hamlet]

I didn't bought anything, I literally just woke up to find the shop didn't refreshed

[weary gust]

What time did you buy that red book

[blissful hamlet]

if it was refreshed I wouldn't be here complaining

[blissful hamlet]

right after the daily reset

[atomic abyss]

[blissful hamlet]

well apologize for not being exact on the time, I mean around 3 hours 50 minutes ago at the time I first mentioned it

[crisp raven]

worst case, you lost out on 1 cube with no discount if there was even one. that shouldnt affect anything in the long run. if the shop doesnt refresh on this next reset, submit a bug

[atomic abyss]

Again

[atomic abyss]

^

If it doesn't reset again, then you have proof

[blissful hamlet]

that is the screenshot of the state after the daily reset and now

[atomic abyss]

That's not answering my question

That's just what you're saying

[blissful hamlet]

yes it is, because the shop didn't refreshed

[atomic abyss]

If you had 2 screenshots that were taken before and after the latest reset

Then yes that would be proof

[blissful hamlet]

so what's your explanation on why the red book is already bought when I sleep the entire time

[atomic abyss]

Occam's razor
The simplest explanation is the actual reason
You simply misremembered

The burden of proof lies with you

If you make a bug report, the staff would say the same

Unless you have a screenshot of the shop before the latest reset and now i.e with 2 very different time stamps

There's nothing to be done

[blissful hamlet]

I literally slept the entire time, how is it possible that the red book already bought wtf

[weary gust]

You literally slept for 14 hours straight?

[blissful hamlet]

I slept 8 hours

[weary gust]

Which means you would have woken up before the next shop reset time.

[atomic abyss]

That's not

Again

It doesn't fucking matter

You can complain all you like

[blissful hamlet]

no, it's daily reset -> 8 hours day -> 8 hours sleep -> my first mention of the bug

[atomic abyss]

But unless you have explicit proof

With different screenshots and different timestamps

Of this happening

Nothing you say will matter

Fullstop

[weary gust]

Just wait 1hr 40 minutes and we'll see. If it happens again, then we know it happened before. If it doesn't, it's working now and doesn't matter.

[atomic abyss]

Anything else is beyond the scope of this channel

[crisp raven]

#tech-support message a few weeks ago, someone literally accidentally spent gems in their sleep and didnt remember it upon waking. it happens. at least it wasnt gems, or an important shop that flubbed for you.

[blissful hamlet]

well thank you then I hope people at bug reports will take this issue more seriously

[atomic abyss]

I would give you the same response there lmao

[blissful hamlet]

you are biased and no help

[atomic abyss]

You literally have no definitive evidence

Just your word

How are we supposed to take a report based on that?

Staff can't fix a bug if they don't have proof of it happening

[sharp socket]

"oh no i spent $79.99 on a 4900x2 gem pack in my sleep and also bought 8 l2d skins with it while i was sleepwalking"

[atomic abyss]

And saying "it happened this way" isn't proof

[weary gust]

I mean technically if they had programmed the game competently they would have logs of transactions and could see when he purchased what but small indie dev company

[crisp raven]

your subconscious followed your heart on your behalf

[atomic abyss]

I mean that's still proof

All I'm saying is

[blissful hamlet]

yes true my word is my only evidence, but in a software development or in any customer facing business you shouldn't just throw away any user feedback and reports

[atomic abyss]

If serenity has 2 screenshots of the shop, one clearly before reset and one clearly after reset
And the shop didn't reset
Then the report is valid

[blissful hamlet]

you and I are on the same page to make the game a better state

but you just throw away my report

[weary gust]

And on the other hand the shop has been in the game for 5+ years and I have never heard of anyone having this problem before and no one else has yet mentioned anything either so by far the most likely explanation is you are wrong about when you did something/forgot about it.

[atomic abyss]

Why wouldn't we throw away invalid reports after reviewing them tho

[blissful hamlet]

which is the exact reason why this should be inverstigated

[atomic abyss]

Serenity

[sharp socket]

reports must have evidence

[atomic abyss]

Unless you have explicit proof

And not just your words from your mouth

It's pointless

[crisp raven]

the only show issues ive seen are when players are still logged in when maintenance starts. shops and cruise pass can get wonky. but not on normal resets

[blissful hamlet]

tf do I have to prove that I slept for 8 hours?

[atomic abyss]

^

[sharp socket]

your evidence is literally "trust me bro"

[atomic abyss]

Unless you also took a screenshot 8h ago before you slept

Exactly

[blissful hamlet]

there's no screenshot after the daily reset because why? because I expect the shop to be refreshed just like it has been for the past 5 years until now which it has not

[atomic abyss]

Exactly

So there's no proof beyond you saying this happened

[blissful hamlet]

actually doesn't matter, I'll report it and I hope other helpful mods will take it more seriously than you do

[atomic abyss]

If you can bring explicit proof we won't be having this discussion

The thing is

[weary gust]

Good luck.

[atomic abyss]

Most mods don't actually go there

It's mainly me, kawa and res

And kawa is away as far as I'm aware

Only the 3 of us are accepting bug reports too

So you're really wasting your time

And trust me

[worldly pewter]

looks like human mistake to me ngl

[atomic abyss]

Res is a whole lot more direct than me

It's Occam's razor, abdou

"The simplest explanation is the most likely one"

For example
Berke can't clear 11-3 despite us helping him a shit ton
Occam's razor states that he simply isn't following the advice given
Rather than the game being magically harder just for him

The issue here is there's simply no proof

As I said from the beginning, if there's explicit proof it's fine

But no one in their right mind is going to be taking screenshots of every single shiranui shop transaction they make

[weary gust]

Ender you really don't need to be defending yourself. We know.

[worldly pewter]

the proof is what the person is saying but we need to trust him for that

[atomic abyss]

Also in this case I think Hanlon's razor applies a lot but that's a story for another day

[weary gust]

Witness testimony is historically the most inaccurate type of evidence in court. It's wrong the majority of the time.

[worldly pewter]

but i learned from this channel that i shouldn't be trusting stuff like this
most of the time it is the player mistake afai noticed

[crisp raven]

at least there is a screenshot and an entire discussion this time. when next reset time rolls over, we can see if it refreshes or not.

[weary gust]

People either misremember, make stuff up, rewrite it in their heads, lie, or have no clue what they're talking about and didn't know what they were even looking at.
Same reason UFOs get reported.

[eternal basalt]

There;s 12h between the day start and first reset, 8h means little for that

[sinful elk]

Chat who should i keep i need to purge my dock

[stark quiver]

No one lol

[weary gust]

You've got 80+ spots, you do not need to purge ...

[stark quiver]

Just get more dock space
You shouldn’t be needing to retire SRs

[rapid grail]

you should only consider purging if you literally cannot play the game because of full dockspace
and i fear you might have spent your f2p gems on smth else instead of dockspace

Trust me, you will want gems on dockspace

[sinful elk]

Yeah i did get 7 promsie rings

[stark quiver]

Yeah I think that wasn’t a good idea

That’s literally all your free to play gems

[sinful elk]

[sinful elk]

So i just mlb, get them to 120 and then retire?

[stark quiver]

No

Can you mlb all of them before you run out of dock?

[rapid grail]

[sinful elk]

then what should i do

[rapid grail]

Yep you're going to be spending gems now

[eternal basalt]

Or destroy your dock as you currently planning

[clear harbor]

Anything I should be buying from the Guild shop now that my starter fleet (minus Enterprise) is MLB?

[sharp socket]

you have enough space, also you need more dockspace that is too low

[rapid grail]

unicorn, portland (if you don't have her yet)
refresh guild shop once and then buy helena (if you don't have her yet)

[clear harbor]

I have them already. 😄

And they're max starred.

Not sure what to spend on now.

[rapid grail]

the en experience ig
well you can start spending on the chinese DDs there (in elite section) because they have pretty good retrofits, whose items you can buy in protocore shop. as of now, only fu shun's retro item is still not there; the other 3 are

as of current; Tai Yuan and Chang Chun are there

[eternal basalt]

Get some elite/rare you don't have of a faction you need points and mlb them... don'tt get extra copies of limited ships

[clear harbor]

What are limited ships, exactly?

What makes them "limited"?

[eternal basalt]

They are under limited in guild, 2000 currency a piece

[rapid grail]

Limited Ship section in guild shop are all blue rarity, they suck lol. Only for collection purposes
Go for the botes in the Elite and Rare sections of the Guild shop; collect and raise them all before you consider to buy the collection-tier Limited botes

[clear harbor]

Got it. Thanks for the advice!

[worldly pewter]

ur progression dock wise is bricked
u need to rack more free gems from the commissions and anni which TBH i would start a new account at that point

[weary gust]

"rack more free gems from comms" you say that like one can just go ahead and do that.

[crisp raven]

jumping straight to "new account" is super extreme. 2nd screenshot shows Momo, so the account has at least some limited time, possibly never returning girls and possibly equipment. just manage your future free gems better. if youre a low spender, there are some good deals in the shop. if youre f2p, you an manage, but itll be more difficult. there are some vets here who are f2p and have everything just fine.

[eternal basalt]

Just swipe 💳

[rapid grail]

enjoy farming 2-1/2-4

[worldly pewter]

u can still play the game i m not saying that u won't be able to do it
it is just u should be ready to retire all the blues and purples at a very near point

[sharp socket]

just swipe

or wait for free gems, which is next anni

[weary gust]

He already retired everything not SR and above it looks like.

[sharp socket]

shame because alot of the good tech are purple and below

good thing is theyre easy to recover

[molten zinc]

if your dock in on fire just retire some ship that are easily re-optainable like merit/medal/guild shop/etc. and use the gem you get on LNY event and EN anniversary next time to expand your dock

[rapid grail]

even then that's like 30 dock space in an entire year
and you need bulins to MLB ships, so even more pressure on the dock

[worldly pewter]

yeah keeping the good tech at least for cv and bb rld is very advisable but also it might lead to skip the sr events and only pull the ur ones

[crisp raven]

and keep an eye out on AL social media and in discord. there have been more gem giveaways in the past year than before. participate in those and hope you get lucky. (you shouldnt rely on these, but they are an option)

[worldly pewter]

next anni will give 40 slots but still far from enough

[sharp socket]

ive never pulled on an SR event so far

[forest palm]

the kind of person that complains when they are missing crucial tech

[nimble knoll]

[rapid grail]

you play jp tho... en gets less shit

[eternal basalt]

Why are you playing Wife Collector Lane

[viscid swift]

well what can I add that hasn't been said

[viscid swift]

we get the same amount each year as CN and JP

[eternal basalt]

EN, JP and CN get the same reward for their anni's

[forest palm]

TW, and KR probably get the same

[nimble knoll]

Every Anni, You get 800 gems?

[eternal basalt]

8th anni (7 EN)

[rapid grail]

i see then
but it's true on some other resources

[soft raft]

like the difference means shit (if it even exists)

[molten zinc]

depend on the year, last year we get like 700 and 200 from FB/twitter posting event

[eternal basalt]

Next year even 900

[crisp raven]

they give everyone 100 gems per year AL has been around. since CN is on year 8 this year, we're assuming we'll get 800 gems. EN has been getting the CN year value in gems, so yay!

[sharp socket]

note they only started this last year on 7th, there wasnt 100 gems only for 1st anni

[eternal basalt]

I got older mails, with gems... back to atleast 4

[sharp socket]

did they really give 100 gems on 1st anni? i heard they gave 600 up until last year

[eternal basalt]

Wasn't there august 2019, and it woould be 200 since JP/CN are a year ahead

Oldest I got

[nimble knoll]

This is the only gems I got from mail

[sharp socket]

[eternal basalt]

Anchorage emergency maint

[nimble knoll]

Mi forgot, but when does the anni usually happen?

[eternal basalt]

12 August

[grizzled sundial]

How many 457 do i need ?

[sweet delta]

Need 0, want 1 or 2, good to have infinite

[grizzled sundial]

Between it and the new UR bb gun , while resources is strained , which one take priority to fully upgrade .

[zenith heron]

I would say it depends,

The New UR BB gun is only best against Medium Armor

The other is one of the best Guns for Barrage spam while dealing Above Average damage to Medium and Heavy

Only upgrade if you really need it...

[weary gust]

If your resources are so strained that you can only +10 one gun then I don't think you'd be at the point in the game where the new BB gun makes sense to be using for anything.

[grizzled sundial]

But the other 2 ships can cover the weakness of the gun ? Like torp plane ?

[sweet delta]

That would mean you're building a fleet for general content?

[molten zinc]

but then why you making it harder for yourself by building 2 other ships to cover the gun weakness when the problem can easily be solve by just not using the gun for that content in the first place

[grizzled sundial]

Not like it gonna do zero damage to mob BB and you have 6 ships in your fleet for dealing with different mob . Boss have it own dedicated fleet .

[slow fox]

:mutsukiEnlightened:

Just put the gear on anyways

diagnose problem later

[solar canopy]

Is there any information on when Implacable will rerun?

[viscid swift]

next week

[solar canopy]

Ahh okay thanks for the information

[grand solar]

I'm actualyl surprised about this combination of ships being able to utterly puch above their weight class.

[viscid swift]

what

[grand solar]

Somehow this group of ships can punch well above their weight class.

[stark quiver]

they have like no gear tho

[viscid swift]

I'm not sure what the point is....