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EN moment
the first time doing the new format shows you that popup and makes you click past it btw
skill issue
not my fault everyone wants to be spoonfed these days 
does andrea doria meta drops on B3?
Is the new UR AA worth it? Seems like a slightly better Staag?
its better than sextuple
comparing it to staag 
it has hit, so~
Event D3 needs DD 😦
Are any of these ships decent to level up, or just chuck in whoever (filtered for current DR grind)
Rest of fleet will clear regardless
none are useful endgame wise except for fleet technology
Yes only made the comparison because of the hit, just asking because I can make some but I can also make more French UR so idk what's better
and boominsk
Nobody should craft frenchUR AA nowadays
libeccio, maestrale, minsk, grem, libeccio
How so?
got the name wrong. groz -> grem
Does a ship girl sprite affect their hitbox?
The girl's with all the extras, will they eat more pellets than those skinny types?
tash is trashy +2 HP 
For purely AA purposes, twin 76 is likely 95-100% the performance of twin 57 while giving +15 hit and being useful in all of endgame. Twin 57 is good for AA and only AA.
also got tash wrong... welp memory not great nowadays
whats a twin 76, i only know of single 76
there are two UR aa guns
/wiki 76mm mk 37
No wiki pages found.

the 76 is the newest one, gearlab with 15 hit
the frog AA is called twin 76? ic
it's called frog aa?
It was /wiki mk 371
so were calling it twin 76 now, alr
i mean... that's the name
I just call it froge gun
Feel free to call it STAAG Pro Max or Sextuple Ultra
just say 76 in the context of aa and people will understand
76 AA?
57+19
so UR AA is still the french one and the new one twin 76?
and you thought +13 aa was good...
UR is rarity, AA means anti air
there are currently two UR (ultra rare rarity) aa (anti-air) guns in the game
well for a long time there was only one UR AA but now we have 2
the 76mm (eagle union gearlab) and the 57 (iris libre gearlab)
yeah well the 76 is only around 8 days old ingame
one is dead. the other is ur aa 
speak for yourself, i like my 57s no i don't regret +13ing two of them wdym
So overall the new one is the current overall best?
would y'all recommend clearing the event stages in normal mode?
x3 bonus
there's little reason to do most of the hard mode maps now that you can just clear normal and then switch B3 to D3
granted hard mode stages get a 3x daily bonus on reruns so there's that
there are the medal collectible stuff
oh yeah that too
Gotta 3* C3 and D3 for those
Should I clear the SP stage daily or just once is enough?
it's 800 event currency
daily
Ohk
Did not see that
doing SP every day alone would net you 11,200 points over the course of this event
esp now that you can bumrush SP on day one instead of having to wait for C/D to unlock on day 2
how many event points are you farming to?
for large events the rule for me is 55k
I'm going for at least 30k since you get a free UR Bullin at 30k event points for UR events (15k on reruns)
Beside the Halford airstrike bug, her overall damage output is good or not?
afaik it's rather disappointing 
for sp eilite mobs, what armor type are they?

Man why is my z52 dps so mid
sounds like a skill issue 
I saw that

She shouldnt be losing to ply
clearly cause you're not using a 76 MK37 
She’s not losing to ply?
She does once I give ply real gear
Ouh
seems hyperbolic...not sure 
Smh rpg

Isn’t this taiho meta
Why’re u running hp aux 
is she always losing to ply?
i have heard that the UR bb gun in the event shop is quite niche so we shouldnt make it +13 right?
ply haven't even equipped fumo and +13
i wouldn't say 1 in 3 armors is niche. And it's the best by far for that medium armor
is maggiore as good as leonardo?
Equal at best, probably slightly worse
how much does the 6% boost from oath matter?
you won't notice it outside of maybe CV Sync'ing
About 5% more damage without considering RLD
so basically like doing an extra +13 equipment instead? well unless syncing
the syncing is if you oath 1 you need to oath the other 2
so if you aren't ready to whale, dont bother with oath stat
When is the auto mode unlocked for opsi again? After ch4?
basically nothing that makes tatical oathing worth even considering for any F2P
guess the syncing is the annoying thing
it can be
Just make your own calculation
chapter 15 gives 200 gems right
250
is it worth buying the hp recovery mats in opsi shop or should i just leave them? like when opsi resets will i get more value out of buying vs not buying
Hp box also get deleted when reset
and they don't give tickets anyways
1st clear of opsi or have you been doing it a while
a while
First thoughts about the New UR BB Main Gun? Best on Medium but worse everything else?
don't need the hp mats but i could get them
past the first reset i get enough from just clearing maps and missions though i do clean out akashi when she turns up
i only really use them in strongholds when i come back and my fleet is stuck in the fog to top them up 
If so, on Medium comps that use Soyuz, would it be for timing purposes or the Champy/Soyuz/Flandre gun is still better? 
antimedium soyuz is mostly souyuz supporting nakhimov and chkalov so soyuz can freely use the ur SAP freely there
nah i have more than enough healing i just wanted to ask whether keeping the opsi coins or buying the mats would give me more tickets during reset
chkalov 
I see, but correct me, is Soyuz just flat better on Medium, but not that specifically?
soyuz is great everywhere just that nakhimov wants soyuz for her optimum use case
Vit-2 (Mode Change) > Ryusei for Heavy?
I think its more just timing
ignore sync
2.5% more damage for that slot
Just tell me who hits harder, i later sync em up
Wyvern
Vit-2 better?
Its for Heavy Boss, Wyvern doesnt work very well against single target
For what heavy boss
Uh Abyssals currently
Wyvern should work just fine for abyssals
Ye ik, but they more of test dummies to make sync
can you lower the threat level of d3 event maps ?
you just gotta clear it more to make it more safer
thank you !
Is there a faster way to get protocores because I AM SO CLOSE
no
specialized cores*

Oh lmao
wait for today's reset
you get the specialized core in the medal shop yet?
what is rumey gun
like, what secondary gun to equip on rumey?
no i think i saw a video where someone mentioned there's a rumey gun
Wait for tomorrow and buy them from the medal shop
yeah i have no idea what the rumey gun is referring to cause rumey is a CV, and I don't remember there being a gun in the shop during her event
There's not
Are you thinking of the Raff gun? Because that's from the current event

yeah i figured so i think there was just a slight miscommunciation on the video when they mentioned "use rumey gun"
what do u need
i am asking after getting Tenrai from the Proto shop which UR gear should i get next ,If i knew what i needed i wouldnt be asking here
do /protocore in bot spam then
plygun if you don't have a good cl gun, hinden gun for ca, 457 if you don't have a good ap bb gun, depends what you need and what you don't already have
Does opsi reset in an hour or one day and an hour
yup, an hour
6 oil c2 pt wise worth than d3 ?
I'm referencing the wiki cause I don't remember the point drops but c2 drops 80 less than d3, so if your c2 6 oil 1:1 comp is half of your d3 1:1 you'd be saving some oil, eats a lot more time though
I'm fighting the Hard Mode Arbiter that has Heavy Armor
What planes would I replace with the La9 if my CV fleet has:
Shinano: Ju87 D4, Tenrai, Prototype Saiun Kai
Implacable: Flapjack, Ryusei, Ryusei
Hakuryuu: Prototype Saiun Kai, Tenrai, Ju87 D4
You don't
Oh really? It's good enough as is?
If the timing fits I guess you could replace Flapjack on Imp, though
yeah its just exp doesn't have any use to me right now for d3, so im debating whether i should stick to 5oil c2 or d3 1:1 which is like unicorn and anshan probably.
Alright thank you Hamaal 
Actually, I take it back. Looking at the mods for fighters, La-9 isn't that good for heavy, so stick with the flapjack
oh, ok
i was sure ectl said that it did very high damage against heavy and medium, guess not?
ahhh, ok
If you wouldn't lose points by doubling your grind time and want those extra points, you can probably go for the 5 oil c2 since uni anshan is like 20 oil
Those numbers you won'dn't be able to find in-game, though, as I don't think you can see the mods on bombs.
you can, hit the drop down on the bombs or weapons
yeah i just want 30000 and leave, so my best interest would be c2 i guess. so 30 + 10 oil for 100 points vs 22x6+20 for 180 i guess
the more you know 😮 🌈 ⭐
la9 does more damage
Against heavy? Because wiki shows it WAY down on DPS, and much lower heavy mods
wiki assumes flapjack hits
Oh, I see the spread now.
So La-9 is still better against heavy even with the lower mods?
is there a good guide on low oil cost? i think people are using z20? i'm wondering why
so either manhan or z20 now for frontline?
yea
backrow is ranger or terror? but i hear people use bouge?
bogue is very cheap when not limit broken
isn't ranger same cost?
not sure, i haven't checked
common cvl
is anyone else game getting stuck on battles?
with rafaello, yeah, she is iirc unusable nvm apparently they fixed it nvm apparently they did not
i thought they fixed it?
wait what
my loading screen for sorties are just getting stuck at 50%, is that just me or is that rafaello?
I use one Mayan and z20 because en level limit. Can’t tank or try the 3 oil c2 like cn. I’m happy with 5
one of the new ship is bugged
Raf can’t be sorting with the sub.
so i just have to take the sub out?
specifically when the skill at lvl7
what's with the gametip text though, that's creepy
do I need to keep the units in my dock to get the tech bonuses?
or is it a one time thing
gametip?
You'd replace the flap if timing works, and add also add the vits from pr7
one time
once registered it stays forever
great, ty!

what aux gear is good on new UR?
same as every UR bb
i'm guessing this gametip only used when things goes wrong


I am sorry for asking but, is there a short maintenance today? like all of a sudden?
no?
when do they usually announce batch 2 of skins
~~probably its just because its monthly reset, mb
~~
question,does the event C and D stages count as hard mode for dailies?
no
the daily specifically says non event hard mode i think
no they just say clear 3 hard mode stages
What's Raffa's role?
heavy
basically
light jan
med feb
heavy march
etc.
Is sandy good to 125?
Yes
they fixed it
she was bugged?
Well, that was a fail. Game update on the 1st? Oh well, RIP the rest of my opsi
does hood's skill proc during firing?
when the game zooms on her
when barrage?
What was bugged with Raff?
if run without skill lv 1 your game froze
So how good is Unzen?
above lv 1*
Oh, that's what was causing that. Nice that they fixed it
was it specific skill or just chance to freeze?
idk the full detail, i just know if it's above lv 1
none of the hard modes gives gem right?
it happened at all 1s too (source: i had it)
very strong dps, best on heavy
Is there a concensus on the new UR? I didn’t see anything on the pins
Best to use my UR bullins on her or on the new UR?
i've gone 375 pulls without a ur
You’re gonna hate me. I got her in 20 pulls
Something about the DOT on black paint skill I believe
If an enemy got killed w it the game froze
i got raff in my first 10 pull
The previous event took me like 160 or so though
i don't get how luck has been so bad
feel free to talk about pulls in general 🙂
i'm counting both events had to pity last event and probably pity this event
anyone worth getting?
how many ur bb do you have
guess good thing she isn't that good
whats a good bb gun for hood?
Enterprise if yours isn't MLB yet
If you ask for tech Ryuuhou has good tech
Enty's maxed
which would be better on unicorn?
you have a gold hellcat?
that one's on Enty
id keep the seafang for now until you get better gear
Gotcha
Nj, uvh, fdg, musashi, vanguard and Bismarck II
how many of them are mlb
All of them
mlb unzen first then
How many UR bullins do we get per month?
amagi
1.5, or 3 every 2 months from spec core
the medal shop on wiki is updated btw
Question, does anyone know how the daily commissions reset works? All I know is that the commissions reset whenever a commission is finished
and maybe if I log out and wait some minutes, but how long would I need to wait
(I don't wanna do 5 hour blue skill book commission
)
You can log out and relog and it should update instantly if reset has happened 
I just logged out and logged in but it didn't reset
ye it's weird, sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't lol
Are you doing comms from "yesterday" still?
IJN twin 410
yes I am keeping a 8 hour cube comission and a 8 hour oil
Could be a desync issue
I'm still doing one but the others updated for me
why that one
always has been
My own clone? 
its fast, hood is barrage bb, and its accessible
never knew i looked so sexy
if you have twin 457 itll also go on hood
i am sorry, not using Kearsarge as much but does Kearsarge's Shell proc the ARA or its shell that dealt that enemy gets dealt more dmg by 8%, or am I missing something?
why not the twin 406?
but if you're still using hood im assuming you don't have twin 457 or any of the minor upgrades to twin 410
like the gun from pr2? I mean that's fine too but well not worth gear lab or protocore
twin 406 is usable too but unless you already have it its not worth crafting
The other's more accesible
so basically get a gun that reloads fast on hood and thats it
decent damage that reloads fast*
it reset now! So log in like 10 minutes after logging out
wasted 1 opsi AP smh gg
rainbow twin 457 is good enough then
More than good enough lol, but most people still using Hood don't have the 457
thankfully the avis' are special
the multi linked locking system skill of Kearsarge when it fires a shell that hits an enemy, that enemy has 4% more damage dealt itself? if so how long would this last? like until the next shell?
What fleet setup should I use on the monthly challenge
Full anti Heavy fleet, go full IJN CV
From wiki:
What ships do u recommend
shimano
I got both Illustrious and formiable and this month medal shop have CV , which one to pick and limit break ?
https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/march/#advanced-cv
hi theres a guide for it
Comprehensive strategies and example fleets for how to beat Duke of York and King George V, the March Incarnation of Pisces extreme challenge mode boss.
Do you have Enterprise yet?
illustrious
full MLB her already
Medal is easy to farm during UR event , i don't see the need to , like....800 in the stock
Then it doesn't really matter
your typical Shinano-Amagi-Implacable, if not AvP replaces Implacable if none, and Hakuryuu either replaces Shinano or Amagi if you don't have either of them
Ryuuhou has hit if you're tech hunting, the cranes both give 2 AVI
i think i used to have 2k? dont really need them anymore
darn , didn't realize UR weapon bp in protoshop is one time deal and they not refresh :/
Does the front line need any thing or do I just put anything in
They all either will be or are already added in Gear Lab for multiples
your typical Tank (any) - Kazagumo - Helena works
Ok got it
what makes SAP ammo special?
Best against Medium armor , worse everything else, can pierce like AP ammo (except DD gun SAP for some reason)
Also pretty purple shells 
is there a dps simulator or smth where i can plug in a ship and gear to get estimated dps?
what's the armor type for the D3 boss?
heavy
Should i use my Bulins on Raffy ?
i have 5 bulins
UR BB
Musashi,NJ(not Mlb),FDG(not Mlb)
FDG doesn't use rainburins, NJ shouldn't get rainburins
What are the rest of your URs?
Any other UR for that? Bcs Raffy is just new and is best for mobbing as of now, since dmg output is sad but Support capabilities seems worth... further testing is needed
I would wait for Implacable rerun (soon™️) and do her first
Considering you have Nano and Amagi maxed
have you gotten the UR bulin from milestone? or that's not including the 5
because you probably can mlb raff now and can mlb implacable when she rerun
yes i have it from the milestone
nvm then 
it should still be very safe
6k march, can buy 2.5, and 1 from implacable rerun. so you have 8 total
I will be able to get 1 more from the shop
well 8.5
when her planes do dmg to an enemy, enemies hit will take 8% more shelling dmg from yr main fleet
her ara only needs one other eagle union ship to be in same fleet at start of battle to activate
so should i or should i not?
well, are you having any issue progressing? no harm in waiting if you're still unsure
finally thanks 
no issue rn i am just leveling up my ships to 120
I'd wait
Raff is UR BB so not bad either anyways but Impla is just the best stop in the game
let's just make sure we're clear, i see a UR bulin in your dock, that's 1.
how many specialized core do you have now?
i thought you said you already gotten it from milestone
i thought u meant the cruise missions

You're 1 short of doing both counting the freebie from next event 
i guess i will just wait
yes, wait
Waiting Lane strikes again
Plus, waiting until people test maxed Raff is smart if you're unsure
Rn nobody has her skills leveled
well it's still a UR BB, and not like you have any option besides her 

did we get the rewards for the delay for 3D dorm yet?
there are rewards?
Yes but he can do IJN comp with Impla
He'd still be 1 short for 3 BB if he did Raff since FdG isn't dev 30 yet
yes i didn't mean the priority. i mean raff herself
it's impla>raff for him, and he has no other BB option other than raff
Oooh yeah then, understood you wrong
the ideal number for Tenrai
2 is enough, unless you are a hoarder

you could use more than 3 in a fleet but yeh
also Tenrai and that Twin ap ur bb gun from America have the same number of That UR paper right?
man 2 month of not play AL, I don't remember the Names anymore
457
hi, what's the current meta build? I'm still using the Musashi/Vang/BisZwei fleet but I think it was at least a year ago
meta for what
boss
what boss
what boss
Yes, they both use 6 ords
daim, that question wasnt being asked in 2023...

like medium and heavy armor bosses
it was though
wdym, we ask that question
but same as in 2023 it doesn't actually matter how much you overkill by
Oh well Heavy or Med?
a boss dies when you do 100% HP even if your damage can reach 200%
I mean when I ask "what's the meta build" they said Musashi/Vanguard/NJ and then BisZwei changed with NJ so I've been using this build till now
NJ also overkills, just by less
I want to one shot taihou meta

what do you suggest me?
I'm not sure if there are any BB oneshot comps for Taihou, at least not without Helena
Oh META Fight
then off the CV ones we go, even if BBs are usable but not fast enough to kill

you have a Shinano Hakuryuu and Impla, and that is enough, but that Amagi CV is sad being left behind
get ther to 125 then we can talk
the BB from years ago still work for your case
otherwise Musashi/BisZwei/Vanguard and RNG with Helena
whether you can 1hit or not, is another question
I would just 2 shot with Helenaless BBs tbh
is there some sort of dps calculator i can find online? one where i can enter a ship and gear
renhex's
nope
there's too many factors
Wichita META POG
wichita meta how
low hp high damaj
basically a glass cannon
Wichita was always on the higher end of DPS, she's just paper
fighting whom in that pic
zombie taihou
~~Maihou of disapointment
~~
MAIHOU
i dont seem to get the same mileage outta wichita meta when i try tho
gear, tech
she's needs to be given +13 rainbow gun and borderline not die
lemme try
and yes rng is still involved
done, what now?
just go typical Shinano- Impla - Amagi then
leveling her skills would be a start...
i give her hindy gun and she survives but i still cant seem to get the same success, i only get like 80k or so dps from her
its +10 tho but the difference cant be that drastic
shinano haku implac should kill quite comfy with support barrage
done
bro have enough Xp books to
well then replace haku
its just doing Amagi CV is also an overkill, after all Amagi CV is just more considerate than Hakuryuu at this moment
Amagi replaces Hakuryuu in anti-heavy CV with Implacable
this guy knows how GPH rolls. He's got the arrows. But is missing circles
good luck with that affinity
Ah yes, La 9
is that +11 manjuu auxiliary required?
it affects timing and more dmg
if you want a oneshot every bit counts 
of course, for timing
im so bad 
I think he means the +11, not the manjuu itself
ye idk how to rig wichita dmg lol
Use this if no La9 and Vit 2 Mod Change (Courtesy of Blaster)
also i heard people slept on amagi cv based on datamine, what gave with that
Planelet so people were dooming about it
bro wth, which one should I use? :D there are three builds now
their amagi cv is a stranger, old copy pastes aren't ideal
this
they're all roughly the same mileage, you have barrage covering you for 10% anyway
depends how many and which gear you have +13
does maggiore change anything for subs?
nope
so what was the devil in that detail despite being a supposed planelet
not endgameplay wise
at first it was the 8-plane loadout I guess, but as it turns out the skill and torp buff were broken
is fritz, hwah jah retro, and indom the best supp fleet?
Nakhimov
over indom?
Any kind souls here can be my mentor for AL rn??
Im a returning players with shi ton of ship
And kidna forgotten how to play
Pls dm me thx
yeh, but it's a marginal improvement I don't think you need if you'd rather use her in main fleets
that purple auxiliary
same for Rumey anyway
what's that? cant find in crafting gear menu
core shop
its homing beacon from core shop
it decreases airstrike cd by 4% for the ship equipping it
coredata shop item
thank you, found it
is Tenrai a must here? I dont have 2nd tenrai yet but I can craft
it's one of the less substantial increases you can get
yes, because of its better coefficient number
you'll get more damage out of enhancing the torp bombers to 13
it's not nothing to do with coeffs unless you mean armour modifier
time to grind then
there are ways to remedy this...
Tenrai just plainly does more damage per 800kgAP than diver's 2000lb+2x500lb, even before armour modifiers
and there's no coefficients, that's a thing we use for other weapon slots but planes don't have
(yes the anti-heavy modifier is higher by a bit too)
i only ever seem to get 100k dmg at most with wichita meta vs zombie taihou, i only have lv10 drake gun tho
honestly if don't have +13 planes I'd just got for 2shotting
setup is done, now pls tell me which gears I should aim for +13 FIRSTLY coz i dont thing i got enough golden parts to upgrade them all
yea yea i know that lmao, i just crafted it xDD
converging TBs first
rainbow planes give you much less mileage per plate even if it did more per plane
what does that mean?
Every plane that isn't rainbow here
I would start with 1 of each, then the second of each , then maybe some rainbows
I'd guess she was like that, idk if last aux was defense or offense. Just get super lucky
thank you, will keep in my mind
btw how to delete/disassemble augment gears?
fed into other augments
Feed them to other augments
same as cats, use as fodder*
how do I do that?!
select them in place of usual stuff that will be consumed
when you enhance or craft a new aug you can pick gear for XP material instead of just stones
where did you go to get that image
got it
That's the renhex calculator
https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/
just to be sure but OpSI's daily won't appear on C1/C2 and the 8 middle zones next to Arbiter right?
middle 8 can spawn missions, I've not seen a mission on c1/2 for a long time can't say for sure if I ever did
not like it matters whether the middle can spawn them
I think missions are C3 or higher yeah 
you just run them like any other c5/6 zone
MLB gives more Tech than 120 right?
most of the time yes

how many plates is it to +13 a gold plane?
Any1 that I shud MLB?
120
they're all easy anyway

Not really
Saratoga with retro and augment is a good mob CV but lower prio than the others in the beginner fleet
Hamm II has ARA but I don't think you're at the point of needing an ARA ship
Give me skip in Opsi
Well it's more for tech, Just so I can have enough for Anchorage
Ah then
purples like York or Sara so you start burning your purple bulins, just do whatever, save your golds for ships you are going to use
Backline generally gives more tech than frontline
Saratoga good
will there be jintM nextM?
She's the next one to get added yeah
Salvation for the new pvpers
Should I give up or she's worth the pity?
did you get Raff?
I am being fuked so hard by the rates chat
No I didn't get her
Just keep trying
^
let's not go that far yet when you're not even halfway there, get more coin and keep pulling lol
the Italian ships hate me guess all the other UR I rolled were nice...
Can I even get enough coins for it there's a hard cap to how many coins we can hold and that's definitely not enough for pity
Can anyone tell me how to access collection where I unlocked ayanami etc ? Can't seem to find it
Is she good?
RNG is RNG
If you're a misery loves company kinda person, just know that it took me 180 pulls 🤝
the cap is 600k. you're far from the cap what are you talking about
Help I forgor
you're not even close to your softcap let alone 600k...
Bro you got 21K oil, just farm D3 event already easy coins
Memento then archives
to see memento in the new ui click the little arrow next to formation
Damn new ui, thanks
is the new sub anything notable
Nope
damn was hoping pizza pack would be a thing
how hard is w13?
a bit harder than w12
no suicide boats right?
good,just doing it cause I'm 3 cubes off a 10 pull
is it better to farm in 12-4 or D3 for exp?
ok so uhhh,mob fleet died in 13-1,do I change Javelin or-
12-4 by a long shot
Do D3 until you get everything you need for shop then bail
Lv 98 Indep and 100 Kaza in W13 
cardslinger 
Is jeanne d'arc still good to this day?
Anything useful or just Tech points
ryuhou okay secondary healer if you don't have aquila/volga/zuihou, the rest tech, including ryuhou herself
how about this
Still not great
As Mori said triple CV but you really need some levels
Is Sara retrofitted and with aug?
Also idk about Fargo tank 
also did you dump exp books on kazagumo???
Oh god he did didn't he
why are we doing 13-1 
Where's the AA ships 
want the cube for gamba, couldn't wait for tomorrow
Also this 
W13 is easy but it's the point were you need some AA and can't throw whatever and the screen and watch enemies die anymore
how's this
an example of w13 bar
also dunno why it has to be a 10-pull when this isnt like other gachas that has its own button for it 
change javelin if you can
none,I just had so much overflow exp
she almost like Nelson retro with lower rld and acc but with some nice skills
Make a thread with your dock, it'll be easier
sounds better, but indep could use more level either
so I'm gonna use exp books/j
tbh just wait for tomorrow
Sandy's in boss
You also need some AA in mob and idk if Fargo can carry it
who should get raff gun soyuz, alsace, bismark zwei?
mob fleet
you dont need that much vanguard AA if you run triple CV for mob
especially for just 13-1
prolly soyuz sometimes

but like most of the time you would run mk4 on soyuz anyways 
just use it to whatever ship will be fighting medium armor
since that's the only thing that gun is bis for
ender 
No irrelevant gifs please.
wrong chat)

it is relevant because Fybre knows what I usually equip on my soyuz
Not really, no.
you don't know
It is considered an off topic gif by the channel rules.
anyways about the gun, can it be equipped in fast 4 shot comp
question guys, is D3 currently a good way to farm coins other than event currency? or just go back to campaign?
back to campaign
Campaign will always be superior for coins
if you're still getting event point, no reason to do campaign
you should run event for the points tho, maybe after some point you go back but there's no way you finished the event on day 2
B3 or B2. B3 best with low cost oil team cos meta drop... for event coins
run event to get event point to buy coin from shop 
I see, I guess was hoping for D3 to at least have good coin drops, but to no avail
Just wish to farm both coins and event currency, was hoping its at a decent rate for coins
also,does the threat level of a level go down the more you clear?
Event will still be a better use for your oil to get coins until you clear what you need from the shop
It's "decent" in the sense that it's better than not oil cap worlds but that's it
reason: Pulling till 200 pulls despite already getting the UR 2 times, (Basically doing it until Pity)
it's not that bad
How about you get what you need from the event first
honestly I think you'll be fine if you just use all your daily and weekly oil for farming. You get like 30k oil each week, 140k coins each week from D3 sortie,
oki
Then if you have time to spare, grind campaign
on the topic,does threat level really change how hard the enemies are?
gotta use my archived oil then, since I am drained, even the event spare coins and oil
I assume you already have Impla if you're pulling for dupes, right
...right?
I'm farming B3 now with ~4 coin per oil. It's deff worse then 12-4
yes, basically maxed
well if you're doing that, you can just have some time min maxing 12-4 and b3
💀 of course b3 is worse than 12-4, man what are you saying
Ok if you know what you're doing I say nothing 
12-4 + b3 coins should be better than d3 for the same oil and same event point. I think I ran the calcs back then on a certain event
but you're also saving more oil which can be dumped to more 12-4
Can B3 be done with 4 oil?
I'm just sticking with 5 oil this time because I'm lazy
also which way is better to get event currency from
b3 with x2 daily rewards or D3 once?
Oh shit that's good to know
my goal some meta ships drops and 2 event coins per oil as max efficiency
totally not because I'm running out of ships to level
D3
B3 with daily x3 is higher but you will run the stage more than once a day if you're grinding points
bonus is 2x no?
b3 x3 - 240 coins. d3 -180
are you guys sure it's x3 
is it not 3x as usual? 
daily norm for first run has always been 3
even b1 and b2 once per day worth imho
i must be high then
they're right
on the contrary you might be low now
then I guess x3 rewards is still worth to get then go d3 farming then
how cheap is SP this time
1 B3 per day then D3 for currency
don't forget you can also do B3 super cheap compared to D3 even
uni ddg still works
infortune I can't win with 1:1 B3 all enemies so I'm using 2 vanquard + ranger... still worth 40 oil per run for 80 ev. coins
d3 is like 200 per run in comparison
so like B1 x3 once daily, B2 x3 once daily, then B3 x3 once daily, then D3? for currency farming?
Considering b1 is 60, b2 is 70, and b3 is 80?
B2 34 for 70... but b3 should drop meta. still no drop
you're not going to lowcost D3 with oil cap
#gameplay-help message you can try this if you can fulfil the gear
very expensive tho
should yes, bur if i do d3 to level ships and get event points it should be netter
and for just 1oil difference, idk if it's worthit
you can skip the acv and use BB crossfleets
It's fine
4 oil is super expensive
I thinking about. but little better indep for boss
If you can stack BB crosfleets (Als Soy) the Mahans should be able to do boss
if you use BB their barrage will kill off like 80% hp of the boss, only need 1 strike or more to kill it
How good is an shan retrofit compared to chang chun
I have choice NJ or Indep. and on boss little faster. Maybe I'll check it later. Cos I don't used Shima crossfleet when was NJ
Little better iirc, but not worth the upgrade if you alr have CC done
Chang Chun probably buffs more when with DE Ships , while An Shan can be ok with Armor Break I think
is it worth it to use these for grinding FdG?
NJ should be better than Indep here
got time=no
no time=yes
I got plenty of time
No because you're getting capped by morale anyways
this is the worst when it comes to grinding cdc because it will make u lower than 120 moral in no time thus losing so much efficiency
plus using this does drain your morale faster
without HELP you do 4x3 till morale drain, then with HELP you do 2x3 I think till morale drain
HELPs aren't helpful
yeah moral drops very fast with that double
they only help for lack of time, other than that, its a meh tool
Hey they were lifesaving when I was doing HVAR grind
But I was also rotating 4 teams lmao
I used like 250+ of them in a week and now I'll never touch them again 
What's the new rainbow gun good for?
Sap
yeah, its just the same, just faster and saves time
Best against Med, meh against light, horrible against heavy
Can I ask for building a fleet in here?
yeah
A fleet for what first off
yes, do a thread if you want
also anything works for shipyard grinding right?
Yep
Meta is their own faction though, don't use them
I need a fleet to rush from chapter 3 to 9. Pls help me
cause I'm using a duo of Tirpitz and Bismarck(with Uni just so they can live against AA) for FdG grind
I'm quite new I'm cl 36 should I use her?
Pennsylvania Uni Long Island
Portland Laffey Helena
Get Unicorn and Portland retrofitted asap
If you can get Hood or Enterprise in your medal rotation, they boot Penny and LI respectively
thanks you so much
she fine but if you don't get full mlb during event you can't mlb her for a long time I guess
In short, no
New players won't have the mats to enhance her
What does MLB mean
you're much better off using Penny
Nor would they have the means to upgrade her skills quickly
Max Limit Break
Ah ok thx
her damage result same as Nelson retro with lower rld and acc but have some good skills inctead
Max Limit Break, ie max stars
Is penny good cuz she's kinda underperforming ngl
she's good enough till you can get a better BB
Penny isn't good in the grand scheme of things
But she's a lot better than the stuff you have easy access to early on
She's a cheap placeholder until you get Nelson or Hood really
or in the case of my account,Nagato
Also, it helps to limit break her
I switched her (LVl64)with a lvl 34 raffaelo and raffaelo performs better
Probably because you didn't limit break your Pennsylvania or upgrade her skills
Or you're giving her worst gear
No, I do upgrade her skills I have her quite alright loots
Prob lv difference
I just transfer her gears to raffaello cuz it's quite good
Rainbow difference but your Raff will fall off quick if you can't mlb her
The issue with Rafael for a new player is you simply cannot limit break her easily
True
Ships shouldn't be used without max stars
Cuz I have hood and unicorn aswell
Use Hood
Hood Penny Unicorn?
Mlb Hood, Raffa can wait, it is harder to get UR than SR bullins
No wonder
Already using her
Pennsylvania sucks off flag, so does hood
Remove Rafaello
Add in a carrier like Saratoga
Then who? Unicorn? She has not good health but I gave her epic repair box
Rafael is only performing Penny because you put Penny in a place where she would underperform
But Sara needs retro + aug, quite expensive
Toolbox belongs on your frontline ships
don't use repair boxes on main ship,use em on your vanguards
She absolutely does not to be better than most easy to get carriers in the early game
Ik but unicorn keeps dieing and there ain't no problem with my front 3 ships (unicorn dies first)
The only case you wouldn't use Sara is if you had something better
Use catapult for unicorn, u can use purple one until u get gold catapult
Unicorn should not be dying
What's catapult
If unicorn is dying there is a giant issue with the entire fleet
dying in event to suicide boat?
Ye kinda and those annoying aircraft carriers spamming bombers
I fixed it by getting better AA guns
your hood might need better gearing
Probably ur gear.. gold not always better than purple..
Oh that was b4 hood was here bc she's currently fine
these,but you can 100% just use the purple variant
Don't have em
Yeah could you give hood the purple twin 410
Is there another AA??
The game gives you a purple twin 410 as part of the beginner missions
use these for main gun
Main issue rn is the main gun, AA is whatever
I'll try until above 150*
I got T2 of this
U can try to use this for example for hood
This one is very cheap gear version for BB
Until u get better gear
It's still at 125%
gear efficiency is a fixed stat
I thought it's different when using different equipment
treat it as a multiplier
What celerio said
Unless the ship has specific skills, equipment does not change efficiency
K aight
some skills might change the effi based on gear but it doesnt change by itself
some skills increase gear efficiency when using certain stuff
the triple whammy
Hood is not one of those ships
a single piece of gear is going to be affected by like 4-5 multipliers for a single normal damage calc, slot efficiency is just one of them 
Is this fine ? I don't have any equipment to replace the auxiliarys
Again, give the repair toolkit to the frontliner
Giving her the thing isn't gonna magically make her bulkier
Open your gear boxes too
Alr I'll give it to the tankies ship at the front
Hah nice one
Try to open t3 boxes, for aviation oil tank or catapult
Craft those t1 and t2 boxes into t3
if uni is exploding to suicide boats your frontline isnt killing them fast enough
This good then?
hell no by a long shot
I've done these
Try to screenshot ur gear in depot.. so they can tell which one is okay
the main gun is ok
just blue rarity 
Those secondary and aa sucks
It doesn't show those which are equipped but here
you can toggle equipped on
he got nothing either 
then again yeah lol
Don't spread ur equipments.. choose 6 ships first.. that u want to commit..
Wdym
There isn't much equipment to spread tbh
Got lucky
you might just need to do an easier stage and gather more tech boxes and gear until you can do more cause theres not alot to do here
Give that Raff secondary gun to Helena
at least i dont know how to optimise here
maybe someone skilled in low tier gearing can help you
Nvm I can
w3 unlock autofight.... I guess you did it
It is better to equip 2-3 ships with optimal equipments, just give the rest spare as long they don't sink..
So those 3 ships can carry all your fleet..
For me I will do unicorn and hood/penny first.. and give the bulk to portland, and best dd gun and torpedo for ur starter.. just treat other ships as filler
Until u get more boxes..
He has done that though?
The issue is that he just doesn't have enough gear
I have yes
tool box on Hood better will be on Helen. it's not important at that level gear but can be
Do what Celerio said, use your event points for gear boxes
K
Good catch yeah
Btw what about basic sonar and depth charges
Bad but it's not like you have something better
instead of Improved Sonar on Helena
sonar is useless, depth charge mildly more useful
sonar crap
if you have naval camo or rudder you can use that
What do I do unequip sonar use gearbox
I think gave helena gun to your BB
Common ones only
Its okay atm
common naval camo will be better than sonar
No
BB secondary is, well, secondary at this stage
So I change depth charge to camo
change sonar to camo
What about repair tool kit
If you have one boot the depth charge
then use toolkit and camo, put depth charge on another ship
Done
Do I give its main gun to Raffael
i believe event stages have subs so put depth charge on your starter
Twin 250mm tbtsk or triple 155mm main gun mount on Helena
Hello are there any wiki for new players
no itll have more benefit for your frontliner
Yes ik
Aight
Isn't tbf avenger is better because tenzan is converging right?
twin 150
triple 155 can go to your bb secondary
Currently looking good thz
Does he have that or am I blind and don't see it
Some guy told me to use the leg 155 on Helena don’t know who
2nd pic top left
Please help the newbie to start the game right
Hello, new player here. Need a little bit of advice about placements, are the placements in this 2 fleets ok? Should i change something? Thank you in advance :)
its also more enhanced than the triple 155
It was me, sorry, I'm blind 
i wouldn't trust that to do alot but i suppose
Autoloader on Hood instead of Raff, she'll be doing more damage I guess?
Kick the boiler
Is felix shultz or Halford worth building?
Define your "worth"
None are super good but Felix is better than Halford
you shouldnt be using kronk if shes not MLB
BB as flag
why is everyone in mob not MLB, dont spread those bulins and MLB one at a time
warspite and eugen should be booted from boss, theyre bad unless you have nothing else
Currently i have shimakaze and z52 both max level i wonder if felix or Halford are much better in excercise?
maybe he can craft some rare stuff
They are not
Oh okay thanks
Also what do I spend this currency on? I already have the meta ship
1st pinned contains shop priority
gear tech boxes
Get the gun
@shell willow the gun isn’t returning for a long time
Should be prio
So is this good?
Everyone? 3 characters are mlb in that fleet and i don't want to mlb Belfast/Sovetskaya Rossiya bcs i have better ships for replacements but not enough level yet
And Warspite is recommended for boss fleets or so i saw in the guidelines and i don't have many ships yet to replace her
tech boxes
stop dying
gun
Anything besides catapult on unicorn?
normally those weapons are made especially for the event ship or they might be usefull on different ships also?
twin 152 is good
cata is also but expensive to upgrade now
Gold catapults, If purple the aviation tank
Gold steam catapult is best aux for carriers
It’s the best gun in the game for medium armor on most bbs
Twin 152 on which ship?
hood probably
thats what the pin says as well
that warspite is not retro'ed
Are you getting Uni's Retro?
Yeah, but ppl are saying to not get it
also dont retro her
u see a 5k currency with a dying fleet because of gear
what will u recommend ?
Affirmative
The gun, because it is not coming back for a long time
It’s very achievable in the event duration
I would go for tech boxes first to make their life easier
it is obviously tech boxes
gold catas, quad mags, seafangs, hellcats
You can get the tech boxes first, you can get the gun later imo
Can't equip it on hood
prolly sphagetti
or helena
he benefits more from getting the tech boxes for better gear now than a niche gun that he wont see the potential of in a long time
If he gets better gear he can push more easily = more points for gun
you are kidding
Which better on Helena
left so as doggo said put on raff for now
also not correct, he'll still get the gun
no one said don't get the gun as a leave it rot until the shop expires
IF you are gonna grind for the gun before end of event then sure, you can get the tech boxes first
I don't think I agree with "potential of in a long time"
yeah it was obviously about priorities 
Dude's gear is a tad dire, getting boxes now would make his life easier for the rest of the event
event map has some items drop like toolbox
it is definitely more usable than the yamato gun but still
1 armor type is kinda very limiting too
I mean, I got the gun first, and I managed to get all the tech boxes, so I'm sure he can do the opposite and do the same
To get toolboxes he needs to reach D3 lmao, not happening rn
during yk2 event what did u get first
tech boxes or the hvar prints ?
Tech boxes, but still had enough for prints
in theory with his level ships he can farm b3 or b2... b3 definitely has toolbox drop
need to check other maps. rn on middle of 2 of 3 run b3
I just see painting the gun black with "niche" and 'wont see potential for long time" will do more harm than good
With the better gear I could clear the stages faster, Meaning I can get more points, And I managed to get enough for the hvar and the rainbow plane
both yamato and marco kai guns are niche
no one can deny this 
the potential in a long time depends on many factors mainly a domain of application like the next meta for example being med armor
It's irrelevant anyway
He should get the gun, *after* the boxes
B3 and B2 drop.. so b3 best
Even if he did go for the gun first, how would that help? It's only good against medium armor enemies, and it's only good in certain scenarios not for regular plays
u96 maggiore and who the last one?
I58 because it's the one you have leveled
Don't sweat about subs too much at first
i think the helper misundertood me when i said no to gun as
leave it in the shop and don't get it
which TBH when i see someone saying this in this channel i will report to the mods and warn him about giving bad advice 
does ignoring u96 wolfpack is a big deal?
first get oil for more farm if you don't have oil cap. gun it's a event drop if you not get it you'll wait until next rerun
LmaO
Not really
Subs are used in later campaign stages
I wouldn't feed them gold bulins if you need them for surface fleet
I would say get the boxes first, try to lvl up ur ships at least u can farm D1 for oil cap map.. get the gun after that..
yeah im not really focusing them too much, just want to level them first
i think D1 will be out of the question for a new player
maybe something in the C stages
C-3 maybe
Just passive level them for the weekly raid, don't focus for now 
What’s the new BB girl good for? Isn’t her healing pretty good? Would she be better for mobbing?
seems she like more about mobing maps instead of solo target. her heal not so good but discussion more about her shield. it's fine
Nice thank you
every time mob dies with black paint ship get white paint and it's shield of 1% up to 3% raff hp. heals only when she use her main gun from barrage
Is the new META BB shop good or no?
same as Nelson retro but hard to mlb
I saw the META crystals needed to mlb her in the event shop for 2000 points each
And I alr built Nelson retro, so should I build her?
I'll take it but it will be expensive. for collections. and I like ther skills like FdG on minimal
she has nice deff. barrage and 100% barrage from main gun. It's better then nelson pluss some vanguard deff and heal for own
I'll said it's worth but depends on investment. If you want other stuff from shop so maybe skip it. If you have a lot event coins - why not?
I currently have nothing todo, I need to get to cl 40 to continue story, do I do the archives
War archives* and if so which one
do event map as high as you can.
Then what do I do besides event?
Just do event 
I've already done that
B3, C1 or D3 if you can
