gameplay-help

[hollow gust]

Didn't he glaze the shit out of zwei lol

[vale spindle]

Check pins

[woven star]

she has weird white paint skill. it's seems good as having unicorn when mobs dies very fast and her shield always up but if enemy dies very fast is it good to have shield? smth like that. abuot dmg idk: low level and no mlb

[hollow gust]

What's weird about white paint

[woven star]

it's trigger from black paint dead enemies

hard to get or unless get a lot of damage when this shield is not relevant

[vale spindle]

in mob you basically never get the black paint 3 stack effect cause stuff dies too fast

[boreal wagon]

white paint also triggers when ships take dmg

[vale spindle]

however you can easily get white paint 3 stacks

[hollow gust]

Black paint primary trigger is the vanguard main gun , especially when you run stuff like z52 it's very very easy trigger

[rigid onyx]

is white paint Pearlescent Paint

these skills are so convoluted ngl

[woven star]

that's what I mean. good to have but is good to have it when everything dies fast? maybe more damage will be better. anyway we know it's about support BB

[hollow gust]

Is not a support bb

[sweet delta]

is alsace a support BB?

[hollow gust]

She has support skills, istg it's the same bullshit as Yorktown back then

[woven star]

is it damage dealer BB?

[hollow gust]

Just cause UR ships have skills that support doesn't make them that role

[hollow gust]

She does a lot of damage , like a normal UR BB

[rigid onyx]

4 heals off of 2% of her hp is quite the support skill

[vale spindle]

its tank main gun and all main fleet only and its once every 5 sec trigger doesnt stuff die before u get 3 stacks unless you time it with backline

[sweet delta]

there's nothing preventing that main gun from applying black paint to different enemies

[vast panther]

why do somany people have strong defence fleets fro exercises?

[woven star]

most of her skills brake 6% (or 12 for SE) but for all dmg dealers (torps, aircrafts), 15% slow, some kind of 3-6% shield and 10% increase ACC and FP

[vale spindle]

wait wtf cn text lied to me

[hollow gust]

Considering primary tanks these days are ships like z52 and Plymouth . She will be fine

[vale spindle]

cn text said the 5 abs cd was based on the weapon itself iirc

wtf

[sweet delta]

not a z52 with single 76 or 113

[rigid onyx]

realistically I don't see why you wouldnt get the 3 stacks requirment to get the 3 extra 2% heals before raffo fires

unless extremely poor rng

[vale spindle]

no white stacks are easy nobody is debating that

[rigid onyx]

if she can replace uni as a main healer she's broken asf

although no preload

[robust jackal]

Is the EU the only faction with Main fleet BB/BCs that use DD secondary guns?

[hollow gust]

The copium is real

[vale spindle]

so just to confirm the abscd is enemy based not weapon based

[robust jackal]

by this i mean exclusively without the option for CL guns

[vale spindle]

for black stacks

[warm cliff]

What gun would you recommend putting on Z52?

[sweet delta]

single 76 or single 113 in most cases

[hollow gust]

Well each enemy can only get 1 black stack from one weapon every 5 sec . Your main gun can still proc 1 stack on multiple enemies

[woven star]

I mean vs mobing she incredible good when enemies dies fast. But if change her on uni you'll spend less oil. anyway bad comparison but as I saw. maybe I'm blind. her shield was always up and no problems with hp for vanguard

[vale spindle]

ok thanks

[hollow gust]

And also your single vanguard can proc all 3 stacks since apparently a new stack also refreshes old ones

[vagrant steppe]

Is Andrea meta dropping in stage D3?

[hollow gust]

Yes

[vagrant steppe]

Kk Ty

[near cargo]

Is there a datamine for L2D interaction?

[woven star]

one more her barrage seems have some delay after salvo. not sure is it for all UR. Musashi iirc has barrage before salvo.

[tawny ermine]

how good is raffaello, is she better for boss or mob?

[rigid onyx]

It's day 1 and nobody knows how good she is yet because everyone has her at all skill level <4, but she does seem to be mob oriented

[tawny ermine]

ahh ok

i was hoping she would be dps so i can finally swap out nj

[hollow gust]

You are very likely to

[tawny ermine]

ohh thats good then

i just need 3 more bulins tho sadly

[astral root]

I might have screwed myself but I’m not sure how all this operation meta and meta showdown stuff work. During the meta showdown fights I’m only getting 71 points and I can only do three a day. I need 5k to get Taiho meta. There’s like no way to get more points. Am I doing it wrong?

[tawny ermine]

operation siren,

[undone plover]

support runs are 3/day and give ~70 each
however u can start your own showdown and request help or tickle her to death for 1000 sync points per day

[rigid onyx]

as you do the fights, it scales up in levels until L15(?), which will give around 1k per day.

[sharp kestrel]

Is the new UR better than Bisko II or Musashi?

[undone plover]

unlikely and she will likely serve a different role than them both

[vale spindle]

fixed on en wiki btw

[sweet delta]

bringing a level 70 to 15-4 lethal may not be a good idea. But it seems she can do enhanced healing with more than 50% chance

[vale spindle]

isn't the healing not rng based

or well i guess it kind of is rng based but in the same way that implac 9 stacks is rng based

[storm heron]

how good is level 1 rafaello compared to level 1 vanguard

[vale spindle]

better if your fleet is fully italian probably worse if it isn't

[undone plover]

how many days left for taihou btw
can anyone check for me

[vale spindle]

ends march 12

so you have like 2 and a half weeks if i math properly

[woven star]

28 days in this month. so 2 weeks or 13.5 days left)

[forest palm]

13 days

[vale spindle]

yes exactly thats 2 and a half weeks if i math properly

[keen sable]

Funny how it ends on maintenance

[forest palm]

funnily enough USS Texas commissioned on March 12th

[soft coral]

Hello, what am i missing here?

[vale spindle]

#event-faq

[keen sable]

You need to clear d3 for sp

[undone plover]

select B3 switch it to D3 at bottom left then do D3 > unlock SP

[soft coral]

So you really cant do sp without completing hard mode hehe, im asking for someone else since i didnt really know

[vale spindle]

all good

[undone plover]

nope and u never could with previous system as well
always need D3 for SP

[keen sable]

You don't need to complete hard mode. You need to clear d3

[thorn tartan]

The wiki event page is now missing a bunch of info. It was working earlier.

[keen sable]

Are you sure it wasn't copy paste with junk?

[zenith pebble]

how i unlock sp stages

oh

[bold salmon]

new ur good for w15?

[autumn pumice]

Is Anchorage added yet or is that next week?

[rigid onyx]

ancho dorm was delayed due to crashes

[autumn pumice]

oh, I see

[thorn tartan]

Does anyone have a better, faster, mobbing pre-load that is better than Unicorn's?

[rigid onyx]

faster?

[autumn pumice]

Hard to find better backliners for fast mobbing than pre-load ships...also Uni heals, which can be useful. So probably not.

[astral root]

So if I do the operation siren quest etc it gives me a chance to get 1000 points? Does that count forward the three battle a day?

[undone plover]

u get 3 free battles per day
u pick a boss from the list and fight that
they give sth around 67-75 pts per fight

u can also start 2 fights/day (and request help for them)
u need 100 blue coordinates to start a fight
u get blue coordinates from opsi and u can only get 200/day
each fight gives 375* points when u get her to 0% hp

[rigid onyx]

technically aquilla w/ preload hits harder but stacking preloads is 🚮 and taking uni out of mob fleet is 🚮

and percy has a double preload but the second one whiffs into water because the first clears the first screen usually

[rigid onyx]

isn't it 350 pnts

[undone plover]

oh u are right
I think it is 375?

[rigid onyx]

you get ~950/day w/ support and both daily runs

[tame jungle]

2x 375 for your own fights
3x 75(max) for your supports*

[undone plover]

been doing dossiers and neglecting taihou
forgot the numbers

[tame jungle]

epic typo sorry about that

[astral root]

This thing right? Yeah when I do the three battle thing a day she pretty much won’t die so I feel like I’m doing something wrong. So the majority of the points to get is actually in the sirens.

Also can I change my siren ships? I think I just picked random ones and I can’t swap them out now.

[soft raft]

what does your fleet look like?

[eager mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[undone plover]

u only farmed 20 coordinates today
farm more till u have 100
then start a fight
I am in a sortie but will show u soon

[astral root]

During the meta showdown I just use this as my fleet. They get the numbers the highest but their gear is probably trash.

[undone plover]

u want to click these

[soft raft]

Shima main tank

[undone plover]

u can probably do better than this fleet
start a thread and post your dock if u want
filter vanguard then backline

[thorn tartan]

I should give her a ring. She is useful all the time.

[astral root]

Appreciate it. I always been a “casual” player and just went with whatever since it always seemed to work out but now that I’m actually trying the harder content, it’s painful lol.

[undone plover]

all good
that is why we are here to help

[autumn pumice]

yeah, she's one of the most hard working ships for sure

[uncut wren]

So Is Raffaello strong? Is She worth to raise?

[stark quiver]

pending testing

[uncut wren]

Still top early okok

[undone plover]

strong > yes
worth raising > yes but depends if u have other UR they might get prio for bulins

[eager mulch]

when will testing be done

[uncut wren]

I have shinano and yorktown 2

[stark quiver]

idk i have no bulins

[undone plover]

show all your URs better
even if not MLB

[stark quiver]

rafael might be good if you ONLY have nano anad y2

[uncut wren]

I have 4 literally Vanguard mlb shinano york 2 and Raffaello

[undone plover]

so the last 3 not MLB?
I would prioritize raff tbh
then implacable (next UR rerun), overall she is more useful than shinano and YKii
shinano u can speed up with perma pity dupes as well

unless some are very close to MLB
that might change priority

[uncut wren]

Ok ill go with my italian ur so, implacable ( if i get her )

[stark quiver]

rafael prob gonna help more

[uncut wren]

Nah i only enhance if i have 4 bulin

[astral root]

Fleet help!

[sharp comet]

is musashi or bis2 crossfleet barrage better

[viscid swift]

Musashi

[echo nexus]

is the z flag useful at all? accidentally bought it ages ago and i havent used it for anything yet

[eager mulch]

no

[cobalt gate]

you can give it to misaki

[echo nexus]

dont have misaki 😔

[sweet delta]

it's useful its high ship power, for getting last place on EX leaderboards

[stark quiver]

Are you gonna do the thing again

[chrome fiber]

Current banner worth pulling? All in?

[stark quiver]

worth to pull until you get the UR

[chrome fiber]

alr

time to test my luck lel

Les go.. got her at 30 pull

Now I can keep hoarding my cubos. Is there any news about important upcoming banner?

[ivory pawn]

Implacable (UR Carrier) rerun expected shortly after event ends.

[stark quiver]

theres a UR rerun in march
implacable

[chrome fiber]

march? Wow great.

Is this current one a rerun or new?

[stark quiver]

new

[ivory pawn]

Current is new. Reruns give free build tickets.

[chrome fiber]

ohhh. Thanks for the info

[cobalt gate]

i'm at 111 pulls and still missing ur, i got 2 meta somehow....

[chilly birch]

Is the new UR gun worth upgrading and using?

[blissful hamlet]

rafaelo gun only good vs medium?

[dusky cloak]

from what i've seen, its BIS vs Med, maybe alright vs Light, and trash vs Heavy

[blissful hamlet]

20s gun :god:

[opaque galleon]

Can record files spawn in secured zones in opsi?

[keen sable]

📌 but here #gameplay-help message

[frozen cobalt]

should i use my 2 UR bulins to mlb shimakaze or yorktown 2 or save them for the new UR? dont have a UR BB and am pretty new

[opaque galleon]

Do the 2,4,6 files always spawn in danger zones? Or is rng involved there too?

Presumably if they don’t spawn, I would have to wait till next month right?

[vivid veldt]

How do I get anchorage into the 3d private quarters

[undone plover]

show all your URs if u want the best answer
but if u only have shima YKii and new UR
focus new UR first imo

[undone plover]

it got delayed
wait for update by devs

[frozen cobalt]

ye that’s all rn. is it worth rolling more to mlb new UR?

[eager mulch]

NO

bo?

[undone plover]

1, 3, 5 always spawn in danger zones
2, 4, 6 is rng (repeat secured zones)
if u enter zone for a3 file before u have a2 then u messed up and will have to wait a month

always enter odd zones carefully
even zones u can enter freely and not worry about

[undone plover]

No, implacable rerunning soon. Save your cubes
UR bulin income is decent

[worldly pewter]

until it is not

[fair tartan]

Hi, is the new BB worth it?

[frozen cobalt]

🆗

[undone plover]

worth is very subjective but UR BB good

[fair tartan]

Do I need it if I already have Bismarck ii, Alsace, Vanguard and New Jersey?

[undone plover]

then probably u dont NEED her but she is a UR BB why not get her?
are u low on cubes?

[fair tartan]

Yeah, I have like 450

[undone plover]

idk tbh it is up to you
I would advise you do 3 builds/day and pray
decide last day if u want to go all in on banner

u can skip and focus on implacable but implacable already comes with 44 free build tickets and she will archive sooner than Raffi will rerun

[vivid veldt]

Is there anywhere I can see all of the private quarters memories cutscenes?

[fair tartan]

I mean, is the new BB better stat wise than any of the BBs I already have? Or is there anything the new BB does better than them?

[fair tartan]

I have implacable

[undone plover]

if u have implacable no reason not to get her
new UR will be in may and even if u have 0 cubes u can get 400 by then

[obsidian cliff]

is the new ur better in a mob or boss fleet?

[undone plover]

it is tentative since she is new and no one has tested her
initial glance says she doesnt do more dmg than them
maybe she will be a better mobber tho

[storm heron]

anything notable about the event stages?

[stark quiver]

they give event pts

[fair tartan]

😿
Is the new triple main gun worth it then?

[undone plover]

ppl were saying SP is hard but laffeyii did fine for me

[stark quiver]

drops in event stages dont seem so good

[storm heron]

like there's no faramable gear it seems?

[undone plover]

yes
it is the best medium armor gun
and it is basically free (10k event points is nothing) and unique gear always good to grab

i forgot to check that
would rather not know ngl

[storm heron]

what is the C3 gun

[molten zinc]

SAP CA gun

[unreal star]

is sandy primarily a mobbing ship?

[blissful hamlet]

she's good for mob or boss but more useful on AA heavy content

[undone plover]

she is primarily AA
so depends which fleet needs AA more

she is also decent asw for a CL
so can be used for that as well in which case u would put her in mob

[unreal star]

ty

[vivid veldt]

Is there anywhere I can see all of the private quarters memories cutscenes?

[thorn tartan]

you mean the ones you have unlocked?

[vivid veldt]

If possible all of them
Are they recorded somewhere outside the game

[thorn tartan]

IDK. Prob

[sharp socket]

try youtube

[unreal star]

aside from w13, is there any place where heavy AA is needed?

[undone plover]

ch15 mainly

and 13 hard mode

[vocal sand]

today/tomorrow is the last day for opsi reset?

[undone plover]

30 hours give or take yeah

[vocal sand]

so tomorrow

[undone plover]

sure

[proud garnet]

@topaz ermine

[last zenith]

100% shimikaze

[topaz ermine]

Shima

[last zenith]

also floof queen after

[topaz ermine]

Bro got skins, making me look broke rn 💔

[lethal verge]

I mean, shinano is closer to LB than shimakaze

[undone plover]

is this about who to MLB?
I wouldnt spend bulins in shima tbh

[last zenith]

believe me ik

[proud garnet]

Only reason I haven't invested in shima so far is the other ur dds look more appealing so I was waiting on a banner

[last zenith]

shima is one of the best destoryers in game, no? shes def worth it to lb

[topaz ermine]

I'm saving up my bulins to finally MLB guam

[proud garnet]

Will I be using her for a while?

[topaz ermine]

She's still stuck on 5☆

[proud garnet]

I really want laffey 2 tbh

[last zenith]

I would say yes

[lethal verge]

Not necessarily at the cost of other URs though

Id say LB Shinano, then focus on the new one

[sharp socket]

it isnt 2021 anymore

[last zenith]

shes still very good

[proud garnet]

Shinano -> Raffael?

[undone plover]

shima is kinda niche anti heavy
and requires manual for full potential
she is like ddg level
hardly sth worth UR bulins
especially over shinano or raffaelo

[last zenith]

shinano i agree with

[undone plover]

how close are u to perma pity?

[proud garnet]

Is it more worth to max lb shinano or get one star in raff for base + 1 then max shinano

[lethal verge]

Yeah. Not necessarily because shinano is the best ship in here, but because she's already at 2LB

[proud garnet]

like 70 away I think

[topaz ermine]

Laffey 2 is a good dps platform, worth it

But the problem is if you have her or not in the first place

[sharp socket]

shima is like the last UR you want to put bulins into

[undone plover]

honestly I would wait for now

[undone plover]

are u still pulling event?

[sharp socket]

my recc is shinano > raffaello and then hold

[proud garnet]

no I'm done

[last zenith]

back in my day, she was the forth ur i max lb

[topaz ermine]

ddg? The rapper? 💀

FDG? Yeah agreed, she's about right there

[proud garnet]

I only have her at 1 right now

[sharp socket]

which is why i said it isnt 2021 anymore

[proud garnet]

None of my ur are 5* yet

[lethal verge]

Back in my day, she was the only UR to limit break, lol

[undone plover]

i recommend u wait for shinano dupe from pity then mlb her
after that it is implacable/raffaello but wait till u have 4 bulins

[last zenith]

i suppose

[proud garnet]

I have 1 bulin and I'll get another one very soon

[last zenith]

lmfaooo

[sharp socket]

you have things like ddg(s), laff2, z52, mog, big damage frontliners

[topaz ermine]

Man let me see what I need to work on rn

[proud garnet]

would I choose another shinano then or someone else

[last zenith]

also since this chat is alive, how tf do you get the blue anti air best for kawakaze. I need more of em

[sharp socket]

shinano until mlb is gph recc

[undone plover]

I would yes
If u cant wait ~1-2 months for her then MLB her with bulins and u can then pick dupes for UvH

[lethal verge]

You have shinano limit broken twice. So you only need 2 more bullins/dupes to finish her off. You can have her at MLB much sooner than anyone else here.

[proud garnet]

ui bug she's only at 4*

[topaz ermine]

What can I, and should I, do with these

[sharp socket]

his game is bugged shinano is 6* max not 5*

[last zenith]

everything/ At the same time

[proud garnet]

I like the names

[last zenith]

Upgrade unzen

[topaz ermine]

Oh brother

[sharp socket]

oh jeez

[last zenith]

unzen very very good

she a solid vanguard

[sharp socket]

please never do this

[topaz ermine]

People are so conflicted on using unzen that she's still on the rafters for now

[proud garnet]

why not

[last zenith]

litrally me

[undone plover]

i recommend zwei + alsace before unzen tbh

[stark quiver]

[last zenith]

unfortiante. but she is really solid

[topaz ermine]

Too bad, I can't find enough motivation to grind for bulins

[lethal verge]

Oh that bug... That kinda changes the calculations.

My hunch is that raffaello is going to be a better pick. In that case, bullins to rafaello, and use the pity pulls to get shinano dupes

[proud garnet]

Gotcha

[undone plover]

i think the bug takes away a complete star
so she is 5/6

[topaz ermine]

If I do get a bulin soon, I'm probably gonna invest in guam

[proud garnet]

Honestly I was planning on replacing Shinano with Raff just because my Shinano has been underperforming since I lack the proper gear

[topaz ermine]

Because she's my front vanguard

[last zenith]

guam... i dont really like. but i main sakura empire so i cant talk

[rigid onyx]

stop shilling torp ijn vanguards when they dont even have 3 mlb Ur main fleet ships 😭

[proud garnet]

This is the best I can do for her right now

[undone plover]

oh nvm

[last zenith]

also, can somebody answer this

[topaz ermine]

I'm an EU fiend so I like her

She's decently tanky-ish, expected of her type of ship, and she's a good gun platform

[rigid onyx]

what?

[viscid swift]

what blue AA gun

[lethal verge]

Idk what you mean by "blue anti air best"

[undone plover]

she needs 3
u should wait with your bulins anyway @proud garnet
when u have 3 come back and ask what to do
your options are shinano/raffaello and maybe implacable if u manage to get her soon

[last zenith]

I have 4 max mb ultra rare all in my main fleet

[last zenith]

the blue anti air gun

[rigid onyx]

????? where did you hear about a blue aa gun being good

[viscid swift]

yeah, which one

[topaz ermine]

You might need to open some crates, but this'll do until you get down further

[sharp socket]

mlb alsace > bis zwei > amagi > guam/laff2

[viscid swift]

either way no way that's best in slot for Kazagumo in any circumstance

[proud garnet]

Would she be a good replacement for Shinano in my mob fleet though?

[lethal verge]

Is he thinking the blue 76 is an AA gun?

[proud garnet]

Cause if so then I'd just focus Raff right now

[polar linden]

Say guys,do you have any idea of what's the best boss main fleet right now? Not vanguard but main alright?

[rigid onyx]

non mlb ships are like 1/3 as good as mlb

[last zenith]

i swear too god it was a aa gun.

[undone plover]

yes
u should replace aboth UvH and shinano atm anyway

[viscid swift]

for what content

[sweet delta]

@last zenith

[proud garnet]

I don't got much else better rn

[viscid swift]

I highly doubt that

[proud garnet]

UvH carries my damage hard so that's not an option

[last zenith]

THATS IT? NO WAy. hold up, lemme spam rq

[polar linden]

General and Siren?

[rigid onyx]

it's a dd gun

[sharp socket]

if you happen to be pushing w15 do alsace > laff2 > guam @topaz ermine

[proud garnet]

At least for now until I can get an SR built

[rigid onyx]

not a aa gun

[last zenith]

ah:(

[molten zinc]

The blue 76mm

[topaz ermine]

I was expecting a hierarchy like this when I looked at my 5☆ ships

I'll finally have motivation to grind bulins

Since I'm running guam on my first fleet, it wouldn't hurt to invest in my 2nd anywahs

[rigid onyx]

there is no good blue aa gun idk where you heard about that

[molten zinc]

In game it's called anti air gun for some reason

[undone plover]

MLB nelson would do better than her or hood

[topaz ermine]

I lost motivation to push past 13 I'm not gonna lie

[last zenith]

EXACTLY

[topaz ermine]

I'm a busy man who draws n stuff

[viscid swift]

Bunhilde, Unicorn, Theseus/Ark Royal, Anchorage, Z23, Bolzano

[proud garnet]

MLB Nelson or MLB Hood

[rigid onyx]

it is basically bis on shima though for the weapon slot

[sharp socket]

well if you do alsace first you cant go wrong

[topaz ermine]

Alright I guess I'll do that

[undone plover]

I would do nelson
and retrofit her as well
can u check medal shop quickly?

[viscid swift]

what is general exactly

[sharp socket]

preload on UR BB is good, among other things she has

[lethal verge]

It's not going anywhere. I sat around with W15 untouched for over a year before I actually allotted some time to do it

[topaz ermine]

Also I'm trying to oath Minneapolis so don't mind her in my 2nd fleet

[proud garnet]

I picked up Enty from SR CV earlier this month

[sharp socket]

if you're just farming you can use basically anything in w12

[lethal verge]

Shop does reset in 2 days

[topaz ermine]

Yeah I'm sticking to thag

[undone plover]

oh nice I didnt see her
raise her and nelson
and try and grab kazagumo from that DD hull, if u dont have her already

[polar linden]

Cause from my experience,the best boss fleet right now is Shinano,Amagi CV and then Hakuryuu or someone who could slow like implacable or fritz

[rigid onyx]

kaza is good to pick up but not really a focus atm

[lethal verge]

That is what I've been going with

[viscid swift]

the best fleets are alawyas situationally dependent

[topaz ermine]

I saw somebody talking about wanting an auxilliary for UR CV preloads since they barely have any

[soft raft]

that's only for anti-heavy in OpSi

And Haku instead of Implac only works if you can get away with using Eldridge Retrofit

[viscid swift]

not to mention best is often difficult to quantify and determine, nor do you always need the best

[proud garnet]

Enty's raised

I can MLB 3 SRs iirc

2*

[undone plover]

is she level 120?

[rigid onyx]

I'd pick up kaza from the medal shop but she shines in opsi bossing/metas instead of campaign

[lethal verge]

It's the best for the current META fight

[proud garnet]

No but she's being leveled with my main fleet right now

[lethal verge]

Or something very near best

[proud garnet]

My highest level is chien wu at 107

[rigid onyx]

almost like the current meta fight is anti-heavy bossing...

[undone plover]

I see
I think for now use 1 fleet
current fleet is fine
use nelson and enty instead of UvH and shinano
if u dont have books for nelson u can raise brunhilde for now I guess even tho it is not really ideal

[proud garnet]

I was gonna raise these fellas in a bit

[topaz ermine]

I'm completely out of the loop for boss and situational fleets lol

[undone plover]

raising 5 new ships is difficult and fleet 1 still needs more levels

[viscid swift]

Most of my 125s I've used for some recant capacity and I can assure you it's a lot more diverse than those 4

[proud garnet]

I was just gonna get them to 80+ so I can use them in my current content

I'm only on 9-4

[undone plover]

sure that is the plan
but raising all 5 new together is hard

for now stick to event
and farm D1 if u can

[proud garnet]

Gotcha

[sharp socket]

theres alot of things that some fleets or ships are good at

[undone plover]

so replace UvH and shinano
get more levels on enty and nelson

[proud garnet]

Will they be ok going into D1 as low levels

[undone plover]

once they are all level 100 come back and we can start working on new fleet

[proud garnet]

Enty's in my boss fleet right now she's at 100

[topaz ermine]

Ah yes 800+ deckspace

[undone plover]

wait can u make a thread
idk your initial screenshots were confusing

[stark quiver]

125 oathed noshiro

[proud garnet]

The ships I have at 100+ are Chien Wu, Saratoga, Enty, UvH, and Colorado

[undone plover]

make a thread
sort by level
and filter screenshots by vanguard then main fleet if u can

[past jackal]

Hmmm wanna ask, where to press to get to hard mode for this current event ?

[rigid onyx]

#al-general message

[forest palm]

tech wise the DD is useless correct?

[viscid swift]

yes

[forest palm]

also what's the deal with the new sub, nothing of note?

[viscid swift]

not really

roughly on par with Da Vinci

[forest palm]

[zenith heron]

so this can be either a decent/worse alternative to da vinki?

[sharp socket]

sub for collection? and secretary

[zenith heron]

also I know its just the release of the UR, but any good thoughts on it? Worth the build to 125 and mlb?

or should I stick with former UR to build like Fritz and Z52?

[stark quiver]

yes
how much of a prio? idk yet

[hushed sorrel]

i only read that using her is kinda bugged

[sharp socket]

wait for testing, she aint going anywhere

[zenith heron]

then off my bulins go to waiting queue then

[sharp socket]

paper calcs say damage is slightly less than NJ but her defensive abilities are quite nice

[rigid onyx]

I'm kinda bullish on the sub but it's a sub

[zenith heron]

just asking bcs priority of URs are just like a marathon at this point, so I hope this UR is worth the bulins but alr

[lethal verge]

Well a Spaghettipack sub fleet is finally possible. That counts for something

[sharp socket]

id probably go with fritz/z52 if you're looking to push campaign and already have a good backline

[supple ember]

is the only way to expand the dock is with gems?

[lethal verge]

even though Torricelli is literally the worst sub in the game

[zenith heron]

its alr, not planning to do that yet, but thanks for the opinion

[undone plover]

+30 from guild tech as well

[lethal verge]

They did Torricelli dirty. She didn't deserve that treatment.

[supple ember]

damn my guild says 0/15 slots :/

[undone plover]

that is you not your guild
it means guild has researched 15 levels but u have 0

[sinful escarp]

you gotta 'buy' it

[rigid onyx]

imo you should only mlb vanguard URs once you have:

1. 3 UR BBs (incl fdg**)
2. A 'decent' bossing cv fleet or hybrid cv fleet (i.e. slow + 2 rainbow ijns, soy + nakh + dps , kear + yorkii + enty)

Pushing campaign past w12 does almost nothing for progression aside from gems but being able to do opsi is huge

[hushed sorrel]

since ftp player doesnt get a good surply of gems its important not to waste them. dock space is very important

[sinful escarp]

for f2p player i recommend 3 dorm slots + 2nd floor dorm, rest for dock space

[sharp socket]

soy nakh fritz as a 'decent' bossing fleet

[supple ember]

so its only gems or guild tech for expanding the dock?

[rigid onyx]

/gems in #bot-spam fairly sure tells you how to use htem oops

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[supple ember]

wwhy do i want a 2nd dorm floor? it says no additional training slots are gained

[rigid onyx]

morale gain

[sweet delta]

[supple ember]

oh im seeing it now

[nimble knoll]

If I like switch some of my Ships Around Or Smth, Do Y'all think I have a chance doing EX?

[rigid onyx]

apparently you can't insert a space before & editing a message retriggers a command

[zenith heron]

if you grind a lot, less morale, you need morale gain for it to use those ships again faster

unless you want to use them at -50% usable status

[stark quiver]

idk easy ex might be doable
if your gear is trash then uhh

[undone plover]

u should work on shipyard seasons
are u researching anything? build your fleets for that
dont worry about EX yet

[nimble knoll]

Uh, tryna get roon, Needs more Xp tho

[undone plover]

can u start anchorage?

[nimble knoll]

I need more tech

[undone plover]

MLB some USS ships
roon might take ages with only z23 giving xp

get the tech and start anchorage asap
then on to agir/FdG

[nimble knoll]

Z1 is also there

[undone plover]

oh true
i mean if u are close to finishing roon it is free KMS tech why not

[nimble knoll]

Should I focus MLB/120 some UE Ships? Cuz idk if you call this close, But I'm close to getting her

[undone plover]

yeah that is pretty easy to get tbh
mlb is faster than 120 but u are close to 120 on sandy/portland and helena anway

how close is roon?

[nimble knoll]

I need about 52% more Xp from the 2m needed (this is all I need and ig spending the cubes and money)

[undone plover]

your call
i would try and get anchor first tbh
have u done anyone from season 1?

[ivory pawn]

Keep working on Roon while you use exp packs to MLB EU ships mayhaps?

[nimble knoll]

Nope, I was doing St. Louis Before then switched to Roon, But I haven't gotten far for her

[undone plover]

then yeah just farm with current fleets
when anchor is ready and roon is done start her

[keen sable]

so you have 0 research ships?

[undone plover]

and build your fleets around this
if your backliners hit 120 time to rotate new ships in
farming with capped ships is not ideal

[nimble knoll]

Yeah..

Well ig I can switch VV For Raffaello then?

[undone plover]

get D3 map to safe first
then u can raise 2-3 new ships

post dock we will recommend
and show KMS tech while u are at it
fdg or agir screen

[nimble knoll]

Aight, I'll farm it

I'm still quite far away lmao-

[hushed sorrel]

is d3 worth the effort for the exp? how much exp if we compare it with 12-4?

[undone plover]

show dock main ships
we need to prepare some ships
dorm and mlb them and maybe xp book

[keen sable]

it's an event. free stuff good

xp is not the only important thing in the game

[hushed sorrel]

of course but saving oil could be better. cheap d3 and later 12-4

[undone plover]

aquila can stay till she is 120

but if she is running then u can probably ditch unicorn and VV on safe map

[nimble knoll]

Wdym if she's running?

[undone plover]

i meant if she is staying in mob

ideally we want to bench unicorn and VV once D3 is safe cuz atm they are just wasting xp

[wind hazel]

hello anything special with B3 low oil this time? can go below 5oil?

[stark quiver]

4 oil b3 seems sketchy

[undone plover]

cheeky said 4 oil b2
not sure if b3 is doable

[stark quiver]

and b3 is just andrea

[wind hazel]

b2...

[undone plover]

less time always good

[hushed sorrel]

some ppl cannot grind much each day. speed is fine too

[muted ember]

fleet help

[nimble knoll]

Should I use HELP's on the event?

[wind hazel]

got time to play=no HECLP
no time to play=HECLP

[stark quiver]

if i were you, id save my helps
incase a event like psi exists again

[nimble knoll]

What's PSI?

[molten zinc]

HVAR

[stark quiver]

parallel superimposition, aka yorktown2 event
hvars hellcats (BIS fighter for light) were farmable
i burned thru 400 helps in 5 days, and a hundred thousand or so oil

[undone plover]

ykii event
very good map drop gear in that event

[keen sable]

use HELP if you want to click less or play less

[nimble knoll]

I see..

[balmy skiff]

is rafa better than sushi,biszwei,alsace or soyuz

[molten zinc]

Doubt, but since no one have her at max skill yet it's better to ask 1 week later

[crimson grove]

[sharp kestrel]

How is the new UR perform compared to other UR?

[soft raft]

we dont know for sure yet since no one has her maxxed out yet

[patent pivot]

med boss results. im running light tomorrow

[sharp kestrel]

Aww.... I see

[soft raft]

ngl dunno what else you were expecting when it's only been 11 hours since she came out

[rigid onyx]

testing with unmaxxed skills

[wind hazel]

😭 those numbers don't look good

[patent pivot]

if you are referring to my tests, that is with max skills, 125/100

[wind hazel]

any test against new jersey? lol

[rigid onyx]

oh it's a simulator

[patent pivot]

none that have been run since NJ is like 3 years powercrept now

[wind hazel]

ye that's the thing... raff might not powercreep even NJ

[zenith pebble]

does it ake 38 hours to fill up the entire oil thing?

[patent pivot]

i would personally doubt that, but if you would like to submit testing feel free. I will be running batches tomorrow

[forest palm]

most of the general vibe I'm getting so far is that Raph is rather underwhelming

well at least from here

[stark quiver]

[rigid onyx]

I don't understand the sims because biszwei doesn't do that much more damage than als and soy even with plybuff

[patent pivot]

What is your source on that?

also for these tests BiZ was given raff gun which is an ~18% base dmg amp which is going to pump numbers more than you expect

[rigid onyx]

oh

[viscid swift]

Raffaello is looking to be more of a mob/campaign ship anyway

[dreamy blade]

but does she outperform fdg/sushi there

(those are also my only UR BBs)

[fluid brook]

La-9 vs Tenrai against Heavy Boss

which better?

[forest palm]

they don't share the same space

[stark quiver]

if its flex slot
tenrai is better
assuming equal enhance

[fluid brook]

Ok thx

[fluid brook]

La-9 vs FW190

[lament cave]

how do i access the c and d maps?

[viscid swift]

#event-faq

[forest palm]

you're going to have to be specific FW190 is like a shot in the dark

[undone plover]

La9

[eager mulch]

la9

[undone plover]

If u mean the anti heavy fockewulf

[fluid brook]

you mean to be more specific?

Good Old days, thanks

[forest palm]

generally the LA9 is the current best anti Heavy Fighter

[sharp socket]

i finally did my test on hwah jah, she isnt great for harby

[eager mulch]

text

[sharp socket]

being ultra fast makes her very difficult to sync, but even if she did sync itd still be underwhelming i feel

[rigid onyx]

hwah jah according to my naive calcs is the best non fritz support fleet unit and for that she is more useful than 650 ships

and rld tech

[sharp socket]

this test alone has showed me that paper calcs are for some reason really inaccurate

[stark quiver]

[eager mulch]

[hybrid pelican]

So is it a good time to come back to the game?

[soft raft]

Today is a better time than tomorrow

UR event just started as well

[hybrid pelican]

is she a BB? the new UR

[eager mulch]

yes

[elfin hollow]

NEED MORE COINS to pull for the NEW UR

[keen sable]

play the game

[elfin hollow]

What is that brest main gun?

no like rn in chapter 6 as player and need to find more coins is there a farm stage

[wind hazel]

cb gun from kron event

[keen sable]

D1

[sharp socket]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_305mm_(B-50)

[golden moth]

May i ask..i know its early and dumb question..whats ur opinion in the new UR..

[hollow gust]

its a UR BB so they shit on all the SR ones

[sweet delta]

What paper calcs exactly

Did you auto?

I can think of four factors that each favor avp by 5 to 15%, maybe the whole setup is stacked against hwah if your paper calc didn't account for all those factors

[strange sphinx]

Oil efficient fleet for A1-A-3 and also B1-B3

[sweet delta]

4 oil fleet works through B2, stack the other fleet with cross barrages like Alsace Soyuz NJ

[sharp comet]

whats max comfort without spending gems?

[sweet delta]

And you should do D3 instead of B3

[sweet delta]

It changes. We recently got an event with +1 comfort, and this event gave +2 comfort. The max is about 500 now

Plus or minus 20

[strange sphinx]

well just for that
3X

[sweet delta]

I don't know the fleet for B3

[grizzled sundial]

Are pizza submarine the only one that you can call-in anytime you want ?

[sweet delta]

U-522

The cat exp farmer

[rigid onyx]

comfort past 400 basically doesnt even matter though

[grizzled sundial]

Also , if i have Leonardo and then 2 random submarine , if i summon them , only Leonardo will appear or all 3 ?

[sweet delta]

All that are not sunk yet

[keen sable]

will they realize it only works once?

[plain saffron]

You call in the sub fleet, so all of them

You probably have auto call on before, that's why they spawn "on their own"

[mellow cape]

How good is the new weapon?

[hollow gust]

top medium gun

[mellow cape]

Nicee

[hallow mountain]

How good is Raffaelo and the new UR gun in the shop?

Should I build her and give it to her

[mellow cape]

They just answered

[hallow mountain]

Nah I meant if it's ok with her

[viscid swift]

she has no preferences in particular so as always gear her best for teh situation you find yourself in

[rigid onyx]

You use the new UR bb gun primarily for anti-medium bossing (opsi, meta, etc) because it has mediocre mods vs light and really bad vs heavy, so it's not to be thrown on as a default. If she's the best damage dealer vs a medium boss, go for it

[slim dawn]

for independence TBD devastator (VT-8 Squadron) or XTB2D-1 sky pirate

just stay with devastator cause it's faster?

i kinda like the skypirate cause 4 torps

[rigid onyx]

skypirate is better

[keen sable]

if that's all you have, skypirate but neither really

and .0000 is not faster

[rigid onyx]

skypirate is almost as good as wyvern on indep

[slim dawn]

why is there a better option?

[keen sable]

wyvern

[slim dawn]

i have 2 wyverns too

[keen sable]

it's a total waste to make a sky priate

[slim dawn]

damn i already crafted one and lvl it up to 10

i sstill have a hundred blank prints

but i like the efficiency boost, or wyvern is still really better?

[keen sable]

do you have a hundred blank electronics?

[vagrant steppe]

I know it’s still quite early to determine if Raffaelo is good or not, but should I prioritize building her or should I start with Z52/rumey

[keen sable]

wyvern is just better

[rigid onyx]

yeah

15% boost on a 150% effeciency slot is only a 10% increase in damage ((150+15)%/150%=1.1)

lower damage across the board, lower reload, no intercept; skypirate is a straight downgrade to wyvern on indep

it really just shows how much better the UR parallel torp bombers are compared to gold though, if a 15% buff cant save them

[vernal osprey]

Which stage is best to farm for gold coins

[keen sable]

D3 but if not enough then 12+

[vernal osprey]

D3? Sorry I have not been in the game for quite a while now, so I might not know some terms

[keen sable]

event map D3

[vernal osprey]

Oh ok thx

[harsh trout]

Am i missing something here? Is SP locked? Or am missing something, did part 1 and 2 and did story but SP is still locked

[keen sable]

when there's an event, you participate in the event. depending on how much coins you're asking for you may need to do 12+ but then you won't get anything from event. also i'd surmise that the first 4000 oil in event is even better for coin than 12+ as that oil can be turned into 10000 coins.

[keen sable]

you need to do D3

[harsh trout]

ah frig, i did normal mode. What a waste hahaha

[keen sable]

not really. just go straight to D3 (and eventually C3)

[harsh trout]

Yea i usually jump to hard mode, but i missed it

[keen sable]

do not pass C1, C2, D1, or D2

the most efficient route is A1, A2, C3, B1, B2, D3

[glossy granite]

Is raffaelo better than NJ at least lol, wait nvm they diff

[sharp socket]

i goofed and did c1 c2 a3 d1 d2 and only realised before doing b3

[bold cove]

Why is there a mission need to clear C3?

[stark quiver]

Devs said so

[bold cove]

K.O

[elfin hollow]

what to do to get to that stage

[glossy granite]

Wait raffaelo is heavy armor? I thought she was medium lol

[stark quiver]

She’s a big big battleship

[little tree]

~~ SHE also has a BIG heart ~~

[glossy granite]

Prob been asked 40 million times, now that we got her on the wiki page we have a better pic now how good is she lol

[viscid swift]

genuine question, how do people expect us to know how good she is when she just released barely 12 hours ago?

[nimble knoll]

Raffaello's Red skill is the Crossfleet thingy right?

[viscid swift]

it has her cross fleet barrage yes

[glossy granite]

Maybe some experts who mlb already idk

[stark quiver]

Her skills physically can’t be maxxed

[viscid swift]

MLB is only part of it, in order to properly test her she would have to be 100 affinity at least, 120/125 and most crucially her skills amxed as well

[glossy granite]

We'll have to wait a week minimum then

[stark quiver]

Until EVERYTHING is maxed
Nobody would know

[viscid swift]

the last of which will not be possible until the end of the event

[glossy granite]

Yeye sorry for being a bit hehee in the head

[stark quiver]

Dw I used to be like that too

[crisp raven]

on the event page, clear the maps in part 1, either normal or hard. thatll grant you access to part 2. in part 2, go to B1 and swap it to Hard to get to D1. since you said youre in world 6, C and D maps (prob all of the hard maps) might be too hard for you at this point. do the normal maps and get as far as you can and farm the highest you can do.

[viscid swift]

you far from the only one to ask that question so don't worry about it

just people seem to forget even vets have to go through the same leveling process as everyone else

[hallow mountain]

So far since I have them both, Z52 and Fritz are just so good

Imo build those two first

[glossy granite]

Nah man i should be disqualified from this game 💀

[nimble knoll]

Is there a calc On How Long Would It Take To 10/10/10 a Ship's Skills?

[glossy granite]

I was wondering why my D3 runs arent going flawless, just to realize i used Fu shun as tank

[stark quiver]

fushun should be able to tank

[sweet delta]

/wiki skillz

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skills
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skills/Training
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships_with_Skills

Feb 28, 2025, 4:23 AM

[nimble knoll]

Thanks

[hallow mountain]

I think a week and a half

Oh nvm

[glossy granite]

Wait nvm, i just suck

[nimble knoll]

Two weeks, If I'm Using T3's

Is it worth like, Clearing b-1 to b-3 for the first time for extra points and continue farming d-3?

[wind hazel]

i dont think there's extra point bonus

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

most oil efficient is to do A1 A2 C3 B1 B2 D3 and farm whichever map you need

[glossy granite]

Safe to use Maggiore? My submarines are shocking so i only got U37 and U47 aswell Maggiore for SSRs or do i wait for Wolfpack?

[soft raft]

Gonna try emulating AL on my laptop as practice for another game, what's the best emulator again?

[stark quiver]

i like mumu

[plain saffron]

I like bs Because it just works

[wind hazel]

download all different emulator and pick which is best

[plain saffron]

Just need to disable all thr ads in setting

[stark quiver]

i have tried
most if not all emulators (including browser ones)
and mumu worked the best

[wind hazel]

mumu working the best for my rig too

[plain saffron]

Mumu works until the game have special stuff

[wind hazel]

how special we talking about

[plain saffron]

BA EN doesn't run when i used it before, idk about now

So not really special

[stark quiver]

i do ex gaming
and mumu had the smoothest gameplay

word of advice, never use now.gg on browser

[drifting dew]

Who should I limit break next or I should save it?

[wind hazel]

amagi

[stark quiver]

amagi seems like a gud place to start, ur lacking cvs

[wind hazel]

then save for implacable imo

[stark quiver]

also next time, dont need to buy all the bulins

[sweet delta]

Drop the 0lb URs from your fleets too

[storm heron]

what's the usual place to farm event pt again?

[stark quiver]

d3 for normal players

[storm heron]

:0

I genuinely forgot how to low oil an event

[stark quiver]

b2 is the place youre looking at then

4 oil

[storm heron]

Ic ic, thanks

[wind hazel]

5oil works for B3 safe, just started running it

sushi alsace uvh xfleet

[viscid swift]

Why UvH

[wind hazel]

the suicide boat hurts

to be fair i havent tried soyuz safe

maybe it works just as well

[viscid swift]

I just never noticed suicide boats while I was clearing and the boss would be the most difficult fight in there

[wind hazel]

on clearing the tankdd just go as low as 10% hp lol

i sweated and switched to 2nd fleet

[sweet delta]

I just did 6 oil lethal first clear and ended at 90% HP

[wind hazel]

my Zs were on commission last night

[tender girder]

how good is rafa xfleet?

[sweet delta]

I haven't seen its pattern, but the stats look quite mid

[stark quiver]

my 1:1 uni + tai yuan died in d3 boss after full clear
am i skill issue

[sweet delta]

Not mid but poor.

One of the worst UR BB crossfleets. Low damage and three battles only. 200 heal for three battles is nice I guess

[viscid swift]

Do you not have their skills leveled?

[tender girder]

oh man... i started playing during york2 and was counting on rafa being OP as my first MLB UR. hahaha.

dream shattered

[sweet delta]

She is OP for mob fleet

And still a UR BB for boss fleet. Beats all SR BBs

[stark quiver]

hi does she beat musashi + aql combo

[sweet delta]

And crossfleet is like the last thing you should think about as a new player evaluating a ship

[wind hazel]

you might be onto something

[sweet delta]

Truly a skill issue

[topaz ermine]

Raffy seems to rank pretty low amongst the UR BBs in general purpose, but she has some excellent uses

[oak girder]

Is it possible to 1:1 d3? Bb req for both fleet is annoying lol

[stark quiver]

yea

[eternal moth]

Such as?

[sweet delta]

mob

[topaz ermine]

Mobbing and cross fleeting, like the others said

[sweet delta]

Not cross fleeting...

[topaz ermine]

Oh really?

[sweet delta]

[topaz ermine]

I might be a bit demented then, I thought her potential looked pretty good when leveling but I didn't check it out fully enough

[storm perch]

which pr should I focus?

[sweet delta]

Did you dev 30 or fs5 all of pr 5, 6, and 7?

[storm perch]

every DR yeah

[sweet delta]

Then focus 7. And craft another tenrai from gear lab or protocore

[storm perch]

Okay thanks

[rose cosmos]

Bruh are we seriously stuck with a bb on hard nodes?

[sweet delta]

Yes bruh

[oak girder]

Yep. No 1:1 for us this time lmao

[sweet delta]

1:1 is perfectly possible

Just costs more than usual

[upper raptor]

Is sp unlocked after I finish the story?

[sweet delta]

D3

[topaz ermine]

I don't mind since I usually run BBs anyways, I'm a pleb

What kinda ship is needed to shift the PVP meta rn

I'm looking at these damned cv fleets rn

[soft raft]

Go ask #pvp

[topaz ermine]

I forgot about that channel

[molten zinc]

what

[topaz ermine]

What the

[carmine heath]

too much yap

[storm heron]

[inner delta]

do i need to introduce you to a channel called #al-general

[sand lantern]

...why can't I play the C or D levels?

[inner delta]

switch it

#event-faq message

[oak sage]

how much prints are required to get a shipyard ship from lvl 0 to max?

[little tree]

Pr or dr

[oak sage]

asking out of curiosity cuz these last 10 levels for my kear look a lot mor arduous than the first 20

DR as I am pretty sure that's what kear is

[little tree]

Its over 500

[oak sage]

ah

[stark quiver]

513

[oak sage]

so I'm a little under halfway

[little tree]

How much does fs5 add

[stark quiver]

idk
i havent fs5d a dr in years

[oak sage]

what's fs5?

[zenith heron]

maxed Fate Simulation

[oak sage]

man I have no idea what that is lol

[stark quiver]

dev30 pro max

[oak sage]

ah

I mean I just wanna get my kear to be useable so my goal is dev30 for now

then I'll actually do the ships I shoulda done first like anchorage and friedrich

[little tree]

[oak sage]

idc if it makes my account a lot worse I wanna get kear up first

[stark quiver]

it doesnt make ur account a lot worse
you just get better ships and gear a bit later

[oak sage]

rn outside of events I'm just repeating 12-1 for money

[stark quiver]

with full lvl 120+ fleets?

[oak sage]

almost

fritz and Z52 need to be levelled more

[stark quiver]

if youre gonna farm 12-1, farm tech

[oak sage]

This is my setup rn which I think should do good

[quartz sparrow]

hey guys

[oak sage]

wait like tech points?

[stark quiver]

no

[oak sage]

?

[stark quiver]

ships with good 120 tech

[quartz sparrow]

is the new UR good?

[oak sage]

oh like getting em to 120 for the big tech points?

[stark quiver]

uhh yea, how good is tbd after shes maxed out, give it like two weeks

[sinful escarp]

still in testing to see how she really works

[quartz sparrow]

huh k

[oak sage]

what type of ship is she? idk how to check without getting her

[stark quiver]

120 tech, as in fleet wide statbonuses

[oak sage]

huh?

[stark quiver]

like +2 avi stat when you get fritz to 120

[oak sage]

ooooooh

[zenith heron]

first looks, she is good for Mobbing and cross fleets

but on dmg purposes, she is the lowest of the UR BBs if I am mistaken

[oak sage]

so just get some units to 120 essentially

[stark quiver]

get most if not all units with good tech to 120 is a endgame goal

[quartz sparrow]

👍

[oak sage]

I assume mobbing and cross fleets are just as important as the others?

[oak sage]

wait good tech?

[quartz sparrow]

bb

[oak sage]

there are some with bad ones huh

so every ship has different tech stat boosts at lvl 120?

[zenith heron]

ofc uses will be top tier when the time comes, but I just specifically said low on dmg purposes

either way, she is new, so its gonna take a while to tier her

[oak sage]

I see

well ig the mentality is still just wrangle in as many URs as I can

[hot warren]

I cannot clear C3 pls help

[stark quiver]

anyways as a analysis of this farming fleet
fritz rumey gives good tech at 120 +2 avi (and also ik ur farming her to use her) , constellation gives really bad tech, +1 eva for battlecruisers, uni is uni and ur getting her to 125,
z52 gives good tech +1/2 DD fp i forgot ( ur also farming her to use so yea), rikka and nana do not give tech at all

[zenith heron]

all New URs are alright to get no matter what... since different uses after all like ya said

[oak sage]

yeah makes sense

trying her rn and no luck after 50 pulls but whatever

[stark quiver]

50 pulls rookie numba

[oak sage]

I need more coins for the resto f my cubes lol

granted it's only 73 but yknow

[glossy granite]

How do i help Moc Tranh 😭

[storm heron]

what are you struggling on?

[glossy granite]

What am i seeing

[oak sage]

I have yorktown 2 which synergizes with kear so that's all the URs I REALLY want lol

[zenith heron]

is this for the event specifically?

[hot warren]

Yes C3 of event

[hybrid pelican]

So how does the current most powerful BB fleet looks like? Which BBs are the most powerful?

[hot warren]

I dont have enough dmg and my whole vanguard sink

[storm heron]

If I were you I would try something like
rodney pennsylvania perseus portland z23 kuybyshev

[stark quiver]

soyuz,bismarck zwei,alsace make up the higher echelon of UR BBS

the best would depend on the content youre doing

[glossy granite]

Ye i agree with FybreDoggo and also stick to 1 fleet

Your kinda making up your own things lol

[hybrid pelican]

Musashi is not included? For bossing, heavy and or medium armour

[zenith heron]

she is still top, but due to her limited main gun options, the ones given are better

[stark quiver]

one of top for heavy armor

[hybrid pelican]

Which frontlane?

[stark quiver]

idk something like agir,helena,ply,
throw out helena for another ship if u dont like rng

[sharp socket]

vanguard bzwei alsace/musashi is the best bb setup

[hybrid pelican]

Huh

[sharp socket]

musashi better for med/heavy

[hot warren]

Well I will try to make a real mob to save ammo ty

[sharp socket]

however triple bb is not the best overall nowadays

[storm heron]

can you not stick to 1 fleet? I wanted to make you 2 fleet but like you don't have enough stuff

[glossy granite]

Also at your lvl dont do double fleets at all

[stark quiver]

wait where u get that from?

[hot warren]

Umm so I should just farm at C2 or something?

[stark quiver]

yes

[sharp socket]

test it yourself and youll see

[zenith heron]

I believe Soyuz deals more on Medium

[stark quiver]

do u have test results on hand
im too lazy to test lol

[glossy granite]

And pls 1 fleet

[hot warren]

Okay so after I have some full lvl I can take 1 2 ship to make 1 other right

[sharp socket]

i get it from my own observations from doing maihou

[stark quiver]

icic

[sharp socket]

my testing may have problems with it but the gap is quite big especially when alsace has the advantage in gear here

[glossy granite]

You dont even have enough good ships lol

Just cuz your ammo runs out dosent mean its over you know (at your lvl)

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[hot warren]

Well lets get some in this event

Because I cannot deal enough dmg to C3 Boss

[sharp socket]

thats prob a gearing issue

ill assume you're one fleeting

[glossy granite]

Def a gear issue

[hybrid pelican]

Admiralty fire control table, still only 1 per account?

[river junco]

2, event reran already

[hot warren]

Ah... I think so, I dont even have enough to gear my fleet 1, some using white gears

[stark quiver]

oh hi hamaal

[sharp socket]

wait for late 2025 or 2026 for perma afct

[glossy granite]

Do you have any Tech packs in your depot?

[hollow gust]

1)plymouth
2)different timings

[stark quiver]

thats if it doesnt get the shima torp treatment

[hot warren]

How does it look like?

Is it called tech box?

[bold cove]

Basically doesnt need to go 3 BB fleet nowadays?

[stark quiver]

it looks like a box in depot

[glossy granite]

They look like this

[stark quiver]

imo bbs require less investment to do good

[glossy granite]

do you have any in your depot/inventory

[hot warren]

Ye tech box I think, Yes I opened some

[stark quiver]

also holy whered u get that image from

[glossy granite]

Some random ass image i went in google 💀

[bold cove]

Well considering in next implce rerun i had 2 CV fleet

[stark quiver]

i need my implac dupe to max

[hollow gust]

also thats just not true

[covert pollen]

Oh is there particular maps that are good for farming certain kinds of stat enhancements?
In particular reload tends to be a pain.

[stark quiver]

no not really
farm enough and youll prob have all u need

[sharp socket]

by renhex

[sweet delta]

someone forgot soyuz

[sharp socket]

theres just too many UR BBs that saying one comp of them is best gets alot of flak, but the guy was asking a question

[stark quiver]

im not a technical player
keep cooking gph

[covert pollen]

Aaah unfortunate.
It just feels so slow trying to finish enhancing any shipgirl.
What with how trying to grind it goes against the port space.

[hollow gust]

there are many comps but you pulled out a very weird one

[stark quiver]

i farm 12-1 religiously and i enchance all the ships i need

[eternal moth]

It gets easier over time. I'm at a point now where literally every ship in my dock is fully enhanced and at level 70+

[fickle hollow]

Should i MLB Fritz,Raffey or Yorktown2

[glossy granite]

Theoretically speaking does it make sense if lets say you do FdG>Ägir>Anchorage and then Admiral Nakhimov as Research order lol

[sharp socket]

im also not interested in this discussion and just gave my input, if its misinfo tell me why

[stark quiver]

what other URs do you have

[hollow gust]

you cant say musashi is better when she has favorable timings and plymmy

[sharp socket]

based on my own observations and comp she performed better, thats what i said

[rigid onyx]

mushashi does perform better vs heavy iirc (just look at her heavy barrage mods vs any other bb), but CVs have been prefered vs heavy since haku/shinano, mostly because bbs in general dont have any good anti-heavy gun

[runic bluff]

ummm....is the damage from barrage in meta showdown 30+ days after META release has no cap?

[rigid onyx]

benchmarking mushashi vs maihou with ply buff is favoring her to the point where its almost comical

[hollow gust]

well looking at the damage gap, the barrage is ~300k, its starting to reach its limit

[stark quiver]

rafaello probably
or you can wait for implac rerun
also how many bulins can you buy rn

[zenith heron]

flagship buff from plymouth, remember that

[storm heron]

[fickle hollow]

i can buy 3 and i will get 1 more from the event

[wind hazel]

chat, between raff and NJ, who do we recommend if those two are the only option

[hollow gust]

raffy

[runic bluff]

raff for sure

[zenith heron]

~~raffy bcs new ~~

[wind hazel]

why

ok i guess because nj is perma

[hollow gust]

even if they have similar single target damage, raff has a aoe barrage with support skills to the frontline

[rigid onyx]

~~for some reason she does cause softlocks at skill level 4, apparently ~~

[stark quiver]

shes thicc

also nj is perma

[wind hazel]

true i forgot the vanguard dmg buff

[hollow gust]

Raffey is a better ship cause shes 4 years newer

[runic bluff]

do the damage negation she provides a little good thing for her overall kit?

[rigid onyx]

it's ok

[stark quiver]

better than no damage negation

[sweet delta]

it pairs extremely well with a level 1 Laffey II it seems

[wind hazel]

EX cooking soon?

[sweet delta]

for normal ex sure. But why not tank with a real 125 vanguard ship

[stark quiver]

l1 laff will spontaneously explode

[fickle hollow]

i have 138 plane plates should i use it to +13 my skyraider (at +12 rn) or should i save them as i will get my 1st Tenrai soon (probably in a week).

[hollow gust]

finish your planes

[oak sage]

I never tried the SP stages or any of the other stages past B3 on events, would this team be able to do good or do I need a better setup?

[stark quiver]

itll work just fine

[hollow gust]

looks overkill

[oak sage]

oh damn I always thought I was underlevelled for the SP stages so I never did them =_=

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

more level on z52 would be nice

[oak sage]

it would

[grave ridge]

is this thing good?

[rigid onyx]

ive never even seen that before wth

[grave ridge]

exectky

[stark quiver]

no

[hollow gust]

its not, its a shitty italian gun

[grave ridge]

new gun from event? its a d3 thing

[hollow gust]

its old old old

[grave ridge]

aight then, any event stage reccommended?

[rigid onyx]

d3 with oil cap is always correct unless you know what you're doing

[grave ridge]

for a specific gear, if not tokens

[rigid onyx]

farming non-limited gear from events has always been worthless

[grave ridge]

d3 it is ig

[oak sage]

idk why but that sounds kinda racist out of context lmao

[hollow gust]

[oak sage]

out of context

[fickle hollow]

I have Completed Izumo,Agir,FDG,Saint louis and Hindenburg research ,whom should i do next
I can start the following right now

Pr2-Kitakaze,Azuma,Seattle,Gerogia,Gascogne
Pr3-Mainz,Odin
Pr4-Avp,Hakuryuu
Pr5-Prinz Rupprecht,Chkalov
Pr6-Shimanto,Felix Schultz
Pr7-Napoli,Daisen,Nakhimov\

[rigid onyx]

i cant think of a reasonable manufactured context where that would be racist, but that's not really the point of gph

[stark quiver]

wtf racism in gph

[oak sage]

I wasn't actually saying it was racist

anyways I actually wanna ask what comes after pushing story to W12? Finishing the whole story?

[wind hazel]

what research are you doing at the moment?

[fickle hollow]

none

[wind hazel]

i mean research academy focus

[fickle hollow]

7

[stark quiver]

lets move on, anywyas
haku if u dont have amagi cv
shimanto if u wnna tackle w15 soon
if else pr7

[wind hazel]

complete PR4 then

[oak sage]

I had to put a hold of my gold on research cuz I need it for pulls T-T

[stark quiver]

🇶

[rigid onyx]

there's no real advantage to pushing story for progression past w12, aside from the gems that you'd get to expand dock space

after w12 you really want to focus on being able to do opsi every month

[fickle hollow]

4 or 7

[wind hazel]

feel like asking you to get shimanto is kinda pointless if you don't have the blueprints anyway

[stark quiver]

you get to flex your w15 3*

[oak sage]

oh wow I gotta learn that then

what does opsi give? opsi stands for operation siren right?

[stark quiver]

opsi gives W gear

[glossy granite]

I SAW THE 5:40 LETS GOOOO FINALLY 129/200, I will post my urs in a moment cuz i will get my 4th ur bullin tomorrow 😅

[rigid onyx]

basically half of all your endgame gear and 90% of gold plates used to upgrade gear to +13

[wind hazel]

give you gear lab materials

[oak sage]

oh fuk yeah I NEED to do that

[sharp socket]

opsi gives good gear to do w14/15

[oak sage]

and also I gotta learn what gear to equip in general cuz I just slap on whatever I see recommended on slaimuda

like what situations to equip what equips :/

[sharp socket]

and also some other stuff that are interesting

[stark quiver]

how to learn: linger around GPH for a long time, and just read thru chats and see what vets reccomend to people , and what comps ppl use, and then youll soon piece together what is good for what

[glossy granite]

Tomorrow i get 4th UR, what we saying

Or do i hold on for a week

[rigid onyx]

linger around gph
is this just reccomending being terminally online as advice

[oak sage]

what's GPH?

[rigid onyx]

this channel

[stark quiver]

GamePlay-Help

[oak sage]

oh

oh I am very slow

[stark quiver]

i mean..... you dont have to be?

thats just how i learned most of my stuff

[storm heron]

unfortunately gph is just dead most of the time

[sweet delta]

if you're going to stop pulling event banner and go back to light, then max raffaello first

[wind hazel]

i went through old threads and see what cheeky recommend to learn

[oak sage]

I mean whenever I am in an active discord chat it kinda gets mean ;-;

[sinful escarp]

tbh most gph questions are the same

[oak sage]

less active chats I found to be more chill

[rigid onyx]

am i misreading this or is this recommending pulling for dupes

[stark quiver]

gph is friendly
(mostly)

[oak sage]

I got called a bot once cuz I was dumb lol

[stark quiver]

3 pulls a day exist

[wind hazel]

maybe they want the SR ships and is still pulling

[stark quiver]

why did i get murm whated

[rigid onyx]

and you dont do that if you swept the banner...

[wind hazel]

maybe because they haven't swept the banner...

[glossy granite]

I def will stop pulling yea cuz all i need is the meta ship now from the event

[stark quiver]

also hi does the new UR freeze game

[glossy granite]

Wdym by go back to light?

[wind hazel]

bug reports seem to claim so lol

[jaunty vault]

daily 1 light pull for saving cubes

[wind hazel]

on phone anyway. friend say phone freeze, emu doesn't

[rigid onyx]

without context the main reading of that sentence is that you need to pull the banner until you max raffa

[stark quiver]

i found my new pvp backline

[thin linden]

does this event have a hard mode?

[jaunty vault]

yes it does

[stark quiver]

#event-faq message

[sweet delta]

no clue how you got that

[boreal wagon]

emu does freeze its just that the freeze isnt super common