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Because when your vanguard get 8-16% max hull damage every fight in less 20 sec every fight they slowly dies
trust me, you dont need 2nd fleet till chapter 13
I don't think I'll be able to clear maps without 2 fleets,
but in order to do that then do I have to keep doing auto on any previous maps?
huh? you can auto with 1 fleet just fine
Alright thanks again
Is this good? Or should I change anything
And backline heal only once per battle of 3% max hull. It's not so relevant
dump that entire 2nd fleet, hood for another CV, preferably something like saratoga. You need get some limitbreaks on Soyuz. Also use your starter ship instead of sirius
how many specialized cores do u have
ur bulins
where are u in the campaign
and are u locked because of the commander level
I don't have Saratoga
I'm at 4-2
long island is fine if you dont have anything else
I have 1900 specialized cores

(Retrofit) Yuni's Aid - one time (the first time this effect activates every battle, it also heals your entire Main Fleet for 1% (5%) of its max HP and the lowest percentage HP ship in your Main Fleet for another 1.2% (3%) of its max HP.)
I was wron only in one thing her preload heals 5% vanguard. idk when they change it I thought 8%
I saw 10 but maybe that's was in dream or nerf
I got leveled up bulins so I can't use them
Alr thanks
????
8% heal vanguard
5% heal main fleet entire
3% of lowest HP main fleet
where did you get
And backline heal only once per battle of 3% max hull. It's not so relevant
Best fleet for current HArbiter?
This is my dock
just start uncapping soyuz with them
who told u that u can't use leveled up bulins
?
is there a setting or so so they clear out all the ships before going for the boss when you let them auto the level?
Oh they're locked that's why I can't use
ok 5% and one ship 8% but I meant that it's only once per battle. for main fleet it's not big number. more important 8% heal all vanguard with preload every battle
soyuz nakh fritz - eldretro kazagumo helena
thats more then relevant, what are you talking about 
elridge will get assfucked
if u want to 3☆ u have to manual it
if u are done with the stage then there is no need to full clear it again
it is a waste of oil and time
ah oke
who's current arbiter?
i have been at 3-4 for like 2-3 days and still have no repair kit X.x
idk that's what I used
I need to make sure kazagumo and helena alive
strength med
Strength VII?
thats asking to get destroyed by a stray shot
just use your tank kaza z52 
u can use the repair kit once per day when the ship goes into a critical hp level
i meant the item for the ship
I can't use them for soyuz
oh the hp aux 
Is it at w13 or w14 that I should start 125'ing my ships?
because u don't have a ur bulin
How do I get them
Looks promising
Use gear like in ectl?
Click the Lv>1 thingy to use the levelled bulins
get them all to 120 lvl first. as I know you don't have good ships for w14 for now
ur events
2monthly pass
proto shop with the specialized cores
dupes also count as bulins
there is a 1 time for new players
Thanks
Where in the new player
look in the event list it should be there somewhere
This?
I have three I can awaken pass 120, Uni VV and Yt2 at the moment (Laffey is 1 lvl away tho)
that is a returnee event i think
look in the list
don't leveling Laffy over 120 she not worth so much. she's 120 fine for tech now and that's all
i don't know which icon do u have in the en server but here it is sara
This?
Yes

yeah basically u should get 1 bulin from there and another with the special cores and u will have a 5☆ soyuz which is still bad but keep playing until u get 2 more for 6☆
level soyuz skills at least even without max stars her skill is giga strong
I get 1 from returnee thing and one from battlepass
Enterprice, SanDiego vs aircrafts, Helena/retro for bossing... etc. don't remember what you have
then u have a very
ship right there 
I only have 1 La-9
Who's best to use it?
First for Boss
Second is for Mob
Get FdG, Agir for some tanking. Ancho. Time to make some research ships
not sure if it syncs but nahk should run it fine
Also I'm developing Roon at the moment, She's a decent tank right?
I see thanks a lot
you need better first line
how does one achieve this 10k?
good, idk if she decent but good

Sandy Enty Yorky Unicorn Aquilla
Although i would swap cleveland soon
For mobbing right? I don't really have the the Xp packs, So I'm leveling them at 10-4 auto, which they can do
why u have vv at lvl 120 in mob and nelson 102 in boss
?
essex gaming chair
if you get her augment , you basically have a drake
2nd fleet has Aquila, And I'm just using Enty and Yt2 to Air strike the boss into oblivion-
read again my question
Where do I get these exp thing
its fine 
when one of your ship reaches lvl100 you can lecture hall
I shouldn't have leveled up a lot of ships to 70 then
Ok. Anchorage - her torps launch make some eva for all vanguard, it's decent. Roon - something like dps tank, good dmg, good hp. At some deep stages you need good tanking ships. About Agir I know she has good hp pool
anyone?
it is fine
it is the question of which ships u have leveled to 70 
well clearly cheating
com lv68 wall of shame candidate
She's the next thing ima focus on in the research thingy, cuz I'm currently getting bps for Plymouth, and I need about 177 more tech points for Anchorage
i m 100% sure that if he could do anchorage i wouldn't advice him to do roon first 
and I'm talking about ships... another discussion gears... so. as for me get 12-4, level all best ships what you have to 120, get some from research, level them. retro important ships like uni first and helena after... SanDiego between. she needs gold bulins
Not that many
Can't.. I need more tech points
The only ship I haven't retrofitted is Helena ig? Uni and Sandy are Retrofitted already, Though Sandy doesn't have her other skill yet cuz I need more gold bulins and bps, and I already got Sandy's item
my roon still at same position. i'm already in plym and roon still not got. I'm not recommended roon) he like IB that's why I guess
The ship in top frontline is the front one right?
its numbered
2 poltava 
well i think for a w4 progression this is overkill by a lot don't worry u can do fine until very late
just retro port and uni and u can use 1 fleet until w11 easily with that
the only thing that u want to fix is sirius
try to look for ur starting destroyer and replace her with i guess
do you have best AA gun on SanD?
I mean what's called sextube?)
Not the best (I think) but this is the best I could put on her
no it is just when u wanted to compare roon and anchorage
he was mentioning roon because i recommended him that based on what he can get
if he could get anchorage which is very hard for new players because of the tech requirements i would have done 
Can any of this replace sirius?
you need this one
good enough, you should replace the torp though
I'm still quite far away from Anchorage cuz I need 177 more tech points, But I am developing Roon already.. Though it started today
don't recommend sexy to a new player
although it is the bis but we need to consider other factors 
ok. I rush Ancho after SaintLuise so idk how it's hard for someone else
Erm.. Should I take Z23's Torp and replace it with Sandy's?
do you not have a single quad lol
look for ur starter DD between laffy z23 and javlin and slam her in the middle position
I know...
you can give the 533m quad to sandy
whgatever, her torp damage is shit anyway
533 quad should be the poverty i think
your 113 was more then good enough
i did agir before anchorage because of tech issues
i think started anchorage after 3~4 months of playing
Is the mikasa cannon the best for Musashi for OS?
Only got laffy
But i got nothing to level her up
idk. what's a reason to play game if you don't have a goal) I mean some like "don't rise ships over 120", "don't level UR ships because they aren't mlb", "don't make lab gears", "just wait half year and you get it"... it's all experience, you can ask and tell do not do this but at least should explain why
put a bulin on her and use her as i told u
alr
lock the laffey up
alr
its a filthy expensive peice of gear which you flatley dont need so early on
even then you can 113 your entire fleet even for w15
it is because there are better priorities that can impact the account strength more and are more worth to invest in
I've been only playing AL for like 38 days-
the wording "need" might also give the wrong impression, you'd want the gear but it is not necessarily a need
first of all, the only 3 ways to get the sextuple is either gearlab or protocore or focus PR3 which is all terrible idea for a newbie
second of all, like they said the twin 113m is already way ok enough for a newbie to use and it's viable in W15
I agree but I did it for w12 and gameplay become much easy. if you tell him do not make it he can never make it at all and next time asking why his mainfleet die so fast
it flatly doesnt matter at all
if you peice of aa gear makes or break your fleet, then your fleet sucks and has issues
sandy is filthy overkill right now
the only time i thought about crafting sexy was to do w15 
which is around 8 months from the starting point
I crafted it because the sexys look cool therefore making my sandy look cooler
btw 113 not often AA. idk what best place to get it too... maybe some 11-4 before w12 get
RN tech box
sandy is the reason why i have +13 sextuple but also because i fell in the trap of high alpha = strong
ah boxes but... I'm still have 4-5 of them after 4month gameplay and 3 of them from prints
I got mine from a box iirc
it's a good AA gun. but as I understand it's sidegrade vanguard AA for 1 sexy
low rld? but long range and dmg
spam as many commissions as u can do
although the priority there is for the cubes but after doing that u can start getting books from there
i think
it is a commission event with a shop
yeah i need cubes i spent like 40 yesterday
speed run some weekly missions
The whole point isn't even to use 113, literally any gold AA is more then sufficient till late game
almost finished them
You care way to much about the trivial issues when there are more serial problems to be fixed
Is it worth putting an AA Gun On Uni?
only use 1 cube per day for the daily mission from now on
1 light build
I have a question, How fast can y'all do the weekly missions?
yes due to how aa works but won't matter until w12 onward
alr thanks
you are using her without anything equipped?
No I do, But I was wondering if it makes a difference
wait i was telling the returnee to speedrun the weeklies while i didn't do any of them and it is 5h before reset now 
I'm asking this question but still not sure... backlines divided AA stats with firstline?
short answer yes
Should I take my time doing the Weekly missions? Cuz I finish em in 8 hours
h.o.w.
do it however you want
all 6 ships share AA gun range and reload time, not personal damage tho
i always claim the weeklies in sunday because of dock nightmares 
but usually i don't forget about them 
ah ok

I've been lurking for a while and this is also related to your previous comment. #gameplay-help message
So here's the thing. You keep mixing what is 'your experience' and what is 'the most optimum/streamlined based on the general consensus'. Just because it works in your experience, doesn't mean it's the best decision. Your or mine experience means nothing when you're not even addressing the root of the problem.
mostly I'm not so pedant for main fleet AA guns... biggest gun damage for one shot or stats
are gems worth saving or i can just buy skins?
My experience with W13 shows that I can do W13 with the AR ships. I've cleared them. But, it's not the best thing to teach new players. Or even mentioned except for an 'anecdote' and even then it's with a big caveat.
/gems
Gem Spending 101
Gems
in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.
As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.
Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.
This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:
- 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
- Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
- Dock space (remaining gems)
The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.
The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.
Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).
Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).
While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.
do not buy skin if you're f2p
proof
but fret not the missions are done 
Buy Dock space and dorm floor 2,and I guess 1 dorm slot
i mean, you can; but not the best choice since you won't have any dock space
i spent gems on cubes when i started
as long as u have the power of the credit card u should be fine
When I give an advice in Reddit,
(1) Teach them what is the best according to the group consesus. Teach them the right way, explain why it's the best.
(2) When I have my opinion, I will add it with a big caveat that it's my opinion because I disagree with the general consensus. Again, I explicitly separate and explain why.
The most concrete example is I disagree with ALO RLD (20) > HIT > AVI. I explain to people that yes, ALO recommended that, but I think it's better to do RLD (20) > HIT > AVI +2 > RLD (41) > AVI +1.
i dont even got a bank acc
ok, where I'm wrong? Is sexy gun best gun for SanD? is it make game easy?
dont worry you only become truly screwed if you spend like 3000 gems on not recommended stuff
otherwise you only suffer a little
Up to W13, any gold gun work. If you even want easy, we instead recommend Roomba because it's the most braindead thing that will work. Why would you spend some materials (which is better used later) just because 'it seems to help me'.
best is if you dont suffer at all but thats too late
i only spent like 1000
yea youll be fine just dont do that any more
1k gems is account bricking imo
it's wopping 50 dockspace, literally nearly what income of gems you get in a year
yeah u will get stuck in 10 months of normal playing
nah account bricking is that one guy that bought like 10 rings and stuck on 172 dockspace
Sexy Bofors has a glaring weakness where its range is shit and on auto there is a very high chance of it to hit. But again, any gold work and if you want something to invest, go with Roomba.
You are also wasting Gold PCB when crafting Sexy Bofors when it's used by everyone and their grandma.
i didnt play for a year so that makes up for it
he will be fine for the most part, im f2p gems down by 1000 still and i have 150+40 extra dockspace
u missed the chinese and en anniversaries
1000 gems, and if we account for amagi bug 1200
i started when nothen parliment event begin and quit soon after and came back yesteday
might need some draconian scrapping policies but it wont be a problem mostly
did they give good stuff?
also u can just try to play sub normally so u don't get stuck because of dock space
It's also about opportunity cost, does it gives me a small advantage now or a big advantage later? Can I survive W12 or 13 with non-BiS equipment? If yes, might as well save something for the future.
is dock size that important?
enough stuff to make up that 1k gem lost
but as i said above u can always try and play more smartly
it is if you plan to collect alot of ships and play for over 1 year
Nothing wrong with playing in your own non-optimal way. But you have to know that it's not optimal and don't haphazardly teach new players simply because 'that's what works for me.'
Anothr explicit example is the 5k oil logger. I keep recommending them to new player because it's a really great QoL things that makes my OpSi experience better. But I always, always preface it that you are wasting 5k oil for it which can be used for farming EXP and coins.
unless you want to scrap all your commons rare and even some elite ship,yes; also bulins do take some space unless used
yes because when the dock gets filled the game stops u from playing
ahh so i use gems on dock size then
wanna say one thing... recommendation like "roomba", "plym gun", "drake" for new players it's tell nothing.
and btw before w13 any ships doesn't matter, so what's a point to talk
i also got no coins and 1k oil
You keep missing my point. Stop treating your experience as the best way to do things. There is a reason why it's called the 'general consensus'.
i spent oil in dorm food
after investing into 1 more slot in the dorm and its second floor
that is fine if you do not sortie a lot
play a little bit more so u can have a good oil storage
I miss aurora
my current scrapping policy is: grey after 120 and retrofit, grey with bad tech and retrofit, blue 120 + retro, blue with bad tech (if easily reobtainable), purple with no tech (loli, muse), every other 120 retro'ed ship if not used in any mainline content
what does dorm even do
does it increse with level
Keep up morale when you're grinding
passive exp and more moral regeneration that will keep ur fleets running
because another thing that the game stops u from playing is when the ship goes to 0 moral
how do i check moral
dorm exp 🤏
i like the dorm exp 
Easiest is in the dorm on the ship selection for the dorm slots, you can even sort by morale there
alr thanks
my next in line to retire is hyuuga, ise, houston, leander
you can also check morale during the fleet selection
Retire 
a spender retiring is kinda 
i see thanks
probably not leander tbh if some low oil shenanigan happened
i like a clean dock 
It's honestly stupid that you can't just check morale everywhere
i spend on skins not dockspace 
how does ise and hyuuga make the dock dirty/messy
?
but hey, at least i remember to feed the dorm since i need to go there to check
they have no additional use to me after 120 + retro'ed
i also wouldnt use either of them in any mainline content
life of a f2p ||that buys skin||
Is the green thing morale
wtv) btw here many misreads. first I used unicorn on boss in w14 but I never recommended it for someone. that's mention taz say I used and said that I recommend it. if you mention that old post


You're welcome
I think all he's trying to say is that you are overselling sexy because it worked well for you
when I'm wrong - I'm wrong) if I recommend something I check list tier or other. and yes when I'm explain something I told where and what I do, but it's not mean because I do it I'll recommend
this gun everywhere
I agree it's expensive gun but it's doesn't metter do not have a least one
**OPPORTUNITY COST ** Don't make it if it doesn't make a big improvement
Do you understand why Sexy was recommended that often? Because back in the day, back when PR3 is not coinable, you'll get a lot of copies from research.
sextuple i didnt see used until w15
This shouldn't be hard to understand ffs
just roomba spam until w15
We literally use Quad Bofors for w13 back then with way worse ships
it's still in w15 guid. what a reason ignore it if you can get it?
maybe w13h if you cant 5 CV it

==========>**⭐ OPPORTUNITY COST⭐ ** <============
Don't make it if it doesn't make a big improvement
i already explained to him an hour ago 
#gameplay-help message
FFS. I give up. Whatever floats your boat, mate. Just don't be surprised if people are shitting on your recommendation.
thanks goose for editing the arrows to be equal length 
@woven star
there's like 3 ways to get Sextuple
- protocore. Not a priority because champygun and whatnot.
- research. This sucks because you never gonna research focus PR3 nowadays
- gear lab. You have lots of other things to get with your electronics, not a priority.
Conclusion: Sextuple is good to have but not a priority to craft
It bugged me too 
the opportunity cost just make the economy inefficient, you would be better off not crafting it with your low income
tbh i think there's some language barrier 
someone told him that too 
#gameplay-help message
He was recommending it to a newbie whos at 12-4
gph hivemind

do gph use any other language?
yes, malay.
percayalah saya.
i think xeno is still in w10 
yeah xeno is still kinda low iirc, regardless sextuple is low prio
not real gamer if you don't have sextuple 100kai and 457 by w11
Damn..
Yuh, I need 2 more cmdr lvls to get to w11
Scepter is the best for all da CV's right?
gentlemen , when we getting this event again?
asking for Amagi
usually that's the case
2026 earliest
fuuuuuu....dammit

it should be near the end of 2026
sry for ur loss
not hopping to another server
not to mention the language requirement 
just EN it
In terms of Boss Dmg, Is Yt2 better than Enty?
overall and on average yeah but 100% enty buffed by yorkii is sth 
Shud I use Enty instead of Uni? (I'm doing 10-2 hm, and first fleet is or Stats)
at those levels you can use whatever you need
for boss? sure. For clearing? just use uni
well I think u need a BB for ch10
so I would use unicorn + VV
add ykii as well
add a random BB to the first fleet for stats
Any consistent way to farm this aside from daily and event shops ?
Commissions, monthly shop, farming w12+
Is it worth getting S-Ranks on Hardmode? (Cuz I can't clear the boss fast enough..)
u can clear it like this and the threat will go down
so it will become easier and u will manage to S rank by the end
but I wouldnt push further u want to have 2 fleets from now on I think
i don't think clear rank is tied to rewards , so it should be fine to do the highest stage you can for the bp you want
S rank gives more xp and guarentees a ship drop but for 3/day this doesnt matter too much I would just do it for the higher core data
CVs 53 bars, BB 32 bars harby, what happened to them 
bb+cv 1shot 
basically big AA buff so CV do less dmg
and when under 30% it will also debuff BB a lot
Thanks

Tried Nelson, VV, Uni As Main, with Laffey, Portland and Helena.. I had 50 seconds left on the clock-
But when I used Yt2 and Uni with the same Vanguard, Made it like 1:10 seconds left
sorry my message wasn't for you
i think mori was talking to celerio but anyway if Ykii and uni clear then stick with it
I don't know what I'm doing wrong-
this was CV fleet
truly my disciple using eld retro tank
but well, the answer is simple. your yk2 is lv120, your nelson and vv aren't. and probably aren't as good geared as well
well tbf Ykii is cracked so makes sense
It is just that usually u want BB to intercept suicide boats but if u cleared like this then the suicide boats are weaker than I remember 
I would just use VV + unicorn + YKii tbh
10-2hm is 108 to 109(for boss).. Did 6 to 7 levels did that much to offset my Dmg-
I use this to oneshot this month, no oath
can't, due to hull lock
tho gotta call submarine to break her shield at the end
oh it needs BC 
yeah unfortunately, Hood would be nice here
(Nelson isn't 120 but meh)
let me guess yorktown 2 has all her skills levelled 
have you tried fleet 1 VV+Nelson+Yk2?
it is fine just run w.e works but like I said u might want to chill a bit and raise a 2nd fleet for now
They were all maxed-
should be able to 1fleet it
well nelson and VV skills are looking 
also btw if u have rodney u might want to MLB her to get this item https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nelson's_Pennant_of_Victory
I mean these are what I'm using for campaign rn... Not that good-
no, these are solid
Does marrying a ship give buffs?
Yup, But if you're p2w do it for stats, if not marry a ship that you like or smth
those fleets are very solid
dw about it
I didnt mean u did sth wrong
I just meant considering your BB skills are not maxed I wouldnt expect them to perform really well especially when compared to yorktownII who I presume has max skills (who also is a rainbow)
~~also gib aquila
~~
ye nelson lv1 skill with the other skill still locked is very bad 
I mean.. Now that you're saying it.. It certainly isn't a good comparison-
sth u can do btw is try and get everyone skill to level 5-6 before u focus one skill to level 10
I did the second one
also use your rainbow books if u havent
no reason to hold on to them
I'm focusing on Aquila and Sandy rn-
Gonna replace Sandy soon tho, Cuz her first skill is maxed, Don't have her 2nd skill yet
that is fine but like I said u can spread the skill levelling since level 1 > 5 doesnt take too long
u can get everyone to level 5 then focus aquila for example
BB barrage is especially good to level
I don't know why, But everytime I get a rainbow book.. It's always blue.. Not Yellow or Red
any changes/suggestions for my 15-4 comp for boss mob boss strat
She's not Mlb tho, which is sadge
asw unicorn if needed but otherwise looks solid
good luck
make sure u summons subs and pick the nodes correctly 

what the hellcat
anchorage on front? the royal navy gun for SD? guam for brest?
Does shinano's Crossfleet only work for 3 times? When its 3rd to 5th fight? Anything over that, it just won't work anymore?
Weird question about Meowficers
There's this one cat skill that I don't know how to trigger again. Back when I didn't know what I was doing, before I returned after 3 years lmao, Bismarck was able to fire a shell to a fleet, like something to do with Unsinkable Oscar or something? It's like a Sub firing a torpedo but it's Bismarck and her cat. Nowadays it doesn't trigger for her anymore but I wanna use it again and this time I actually know what I'm doing.
I don't have a screenshot of it
this one? Lv2
Oh wait nvm I found it. Apparently I just have to put the cat on Staff
I kept using it as Commander
Ok another quick question, is there another cat that can do a preemptive strike but this time with CVs?
If so I'll be needing it for clearing 13
i dont think you need it to clear 13
Oh there isn't, just DDs
all my cats except for the special ones (Kidd, etc) are still lvl1 in skills to this day, and I'm in w15
I can find a use for it in difficult fleets, like sending a nuke from AnShan and using Subs in Atk mode, and hopefully doing another preemptive shell from Bismarck
it's a 15% chance...
and you don't need subs at all for w13, or even 14
they might help but having good fleet with good gear is more important than these
Is dis worth to +10?
it wont help much
I just need all the POWAH I can get because my gears are all shit and my girls aren't fully maxed yet
imho yr boss fleet is cooked
not enough aa
everything else looks fine though nvm give uni and amagi cv beacon, and if mob struggles with asw then put asw plane on uni as well
also, ancho might not need beaver if yr vanguard isnt slow
are you able to slot like z52 or smth over ply for extra aa
Wait what's the fleet building site again I forgot lol
definitely could be tighter 
no fate simu ?
Agir, DR5, DR6, and All of PR7 do not have Fate Sim
only UR ship ?
Agir is insanely strong already, why does she even need fate sim lol
thanks
you are going to spend a lot more coins on the gacha cat system than in upgrading your fleet and gear
Is this good enough Or should I change anything ?
think you can let z52 tank and have another frontline dps
and stagger uni indep. no need to run double asw plane, let uni takes it
and maybe not too offensive aux on z52
did u focus pr6 to fs5 simanto
?
So toolkit hydro on z52?
What dps do you recommend
toolkit+rpg if you have
pr7 also don't have yet
laffey2 is good, sandiego is good, harbin is good, alot of ships can be there. but idk what you have
Harbin I don't have gears for her though, plus San Diego is in the boss team
Can kazagumo go as middle
kaza in campaign might be hard to keep her alive but u can try 
it's easier to show your dock
than playing guessing game
don't use faction fleets in the first place
faction fleets are pretty cool tho
using a faction fleet without the good ships is kinda questionable but it is an approach 
would only recommend it if you know what you are doing
and have weaned off gph advice
i usually never know what im doing
shimanto is fs5
How do i clear 4-4
one more run and you should be at 100% and you can progress to world 5
some nodes need to be cleared more than once for 100% for the next stage to be accessible
you shouldnt bother with subs at all this early
don't bother with subs for now
Alr thanks a bunch
guys is there a way to bypass item unavailable in your country
i want to whale a little bit😭
I don't think so
Unless you have a card that is registered in another country
Oh wait
Yostar topup
https://yo-topup.com/page/shop/azurlane you can use this. you can change the country at the top. hopefully yours is listed.
its not listed
Check codashop
If it's not there you're shit out of luck without a debit/credit card
Where can I farm for t1 aircraft parts?
W12 would be ideal
Basically not W13+
medal shop?
Ohh, right.. I'm at world 9.
I guess I can farm here too then.
Any maps that drop higher amount of aircraft parts than other parts?
Medal shop? I'll check that too, thanks
not 6 to 11
No map drops it higher
war archives is better than average
You shouldn't even be running out of T1 parts that early on
medal shop isn't a good source
Ohkk, thanks!
So any map it is..
I just ran out of aircraft parts, others are stacked 😭😭
you shouldn't really do this because too much manual but obviously selecting an aviation node to fight is the one that drops aircraft parts
Aviation node?.. like the ones that drop aviation parts, like steam catapults etc?
Carrier nodes
something that looks like a plane launching ground
but tbh u shouldn't worry too much about it
the only issue is the purple aux plates in the end
this thing or the siren equivalent
Just reached level 30
What's arcade
mini game archive
Does it give anything good?
nothing special. free gear skins
Not worth doing then ig
Speaking of said gear skins, do they ever refresh? Or come back in some other way?
What's this?
oops there's some ship skins in there also
just do it
Grind grind grind baby
new items every year?
june 2023, august 2024
en anni seems like a nice scrap to throw us.
i still remember when we got amagi skin first. 
play the game. don't forget to buy medal shop and collect cruise mission
medal shop?what does it have
i always gamble my medals
stuff with no rng that you need
wheres the fun in that
its not worth it to use the medals for anything else aside from the shop
bulins, ships, specialized core, books, research blueprints, food
also save some cubes. the next event is likely sa UR event
a new rainbow tier ship
well... i have fun not getting arsed by the lack of resources i gambled
shit ive almost wasted 200 medals for nothing then
when is that
probably next next MT
so 2 weeks?
27
who will it be
any info on that?
no, we just wait and see
we just know its probably a sardegnia ship
just say no
what even is sardegnia
inb4 middy flashback
not sure if you are serious or trolling but imma say its the sardegnia faction in AL
Italy
was trolling maybe
i see its Italy
Is this good?should i craft this?
no and no
what abt this should i craft this ?
Wait no
Just dont bother with accelerator AA guns that arent STAAG, Hazemyer, or the UR AA
realistically AA Min-maxxing doesnt really give much results
Wrong AA gun
What are STAAG ,Hazemyer?
Top is STAAG
Bottom is Hazemyer
left is better btw, it's the direct upgrade of right
i have both of these ,i use the left ones on my BB's(Musashi,NJ,Bismarck)
yes, till w15 those are good for backline, in w15 aa is to be better thought around your ships
but the one on the right is not leveled who can i use this on?
Yeah backline ships have priority for the STAAG, in the meantime just give the 40mm for everyone else that is the bottom of the priority list

I still used STAAG on my backline for W15
And I mean this 40mm
by "thought around your ships" i don't exclude it,it's just that it can be different based on the comp you use
i use this on my watarase
The generic but good old reliable, up until w13 anyway
what's there to
about? It's one of the best readily avaliable AA Guns in the game
By the time of w13 you should have the sextuple gun
i mean, it's good,but not the only option
that's only really for your AA Carry ships
i dont have 1 yet
sextuple also isnt really a must for W13
Okay
you use it on your ex run. why would you want to run unleveled gear
Are there any Northern parliament shipgirls in the merit shop?
Soobrazitelny, Gangut, Minsk, and Gromky
No soviet SR tho
Then are the ones mentioned above R ships or SSR ships?
They're elites
neither. E
Purple, Elite
Not new per se. I wanted to get Enty a triple Eagle loadout but wasn’t quite lucky enough with just 10 boxes.
Tashkent Muse is available in medal shop, and she's a gold
tho she uh
doesnt give tech
if the count didn't reset in august 2024 it probably never will
No, but she can be used if you need vanguard XP
I never touched them before like January, will just have to pray it resets at anni this year then. 
is the new ur gonna be sardegna
is there a mission that needs an np ship
?
Should be, we'll need to wait for Saturday/Sunday livestream to confirm though
Oh right, I guess there isn't yet
how do i get more oil? i use pretty much ~2700 oil every 3~4hrs to farm the EXP points for research .
i just started chap[ter 13 and JESUS CHRIST THATS A LOT OF PLANES
you can use her for napoli
don't use oil unless u are over 130 moral
i have max san diego tho so its fine
Yeah, but pasta boats should be a lot easier to get, right?
i'd rather use like chappy anyway
130
i use them at 119 morale
carriers
what difference does it make if i use them at 130 vs 119?
20% less oil
triple carrier mob is pretty standard.
You get more XP if they're over 119 morale
20% bonus exp is interpreted as 20% less oil
i think its actually 17%?
i might be tripping
i use 2 fleets so do all the 12ships need to be at 130+ morale?
It gonna get worse from there on
lets say you want 10000 exp and usually it costs 1000 oil
a 20% exp boost means it costs 833.33333 oil
did u include the boss fleet or something
?
of course. who gets cdc with only 3 ships. so inefficient
833 * 1.2 * 10 = 10000
rather than 1000 * 10 = 10000
its like shopping discounts
halving the price of something is a 50 percent discount but bringing it back to 100 percent is doubling the price
to compute quickly/ 1/(1+0.2) = 0.83333333
Yes or No?
personally i would just put mob only in dorm, boss only fight once per round, mob is 6 per round
I only dorm mob
yeah no one dorms boss
unless maybe whales who have nothing to do with their slots
Because, my other 6 dorm slots are busy leveling ships
I don't use ships of the correct faction in the boss fleet
yeah too much hassle
what is correct faction?
depending on the researched ship
these 2 fine for now? i swap to purple gun when against light armor
what for
No need aa radar
z52 auxes are a little bit 
Fcr fast
I use them for everything rn

idk then 
when you keep using mushy and wonder why your oil doesn't do anything
Pvp ,opsi and Challenge
i dont use them for research grinding
i use purple and gold for that
of the right faction
I mean
Other than 52s aux being a bit odd
It works
I use aa radar because my CV's get exposed very fast against Meta fight
chapter 13 what should i do for main boss fleet triple cv as well or?
Autoloader is needed for unoathed z52 with blue gun to go under 0.5s reload time comfy
Good BBs is better than good CVs for boss, but 3 BBs may not be a good idea either
So autoloader or goldburn are often z52's best damage aux
so 1cv2bb or 2cv1bb ?
depends on the ships themselves but I did 2cv 1bb just fine for both mob and boss in W13
i use that because i saw that it was the best option for her if u dont have gold gun on youtube
YouTube 
Who should i 125 rn
Kazagumo,Enterprise,San Fran or New jersey?
New Jersey Not MLB yet
Enterprise yee
Kazagumo sure, tho that's mainly for OpSi
And dont touch NJ until she's MLB
Is there any Time interval where Taihou meta Stops moving for a Certain period of time?
at the end when she stop at the middle and summon her final 2 mobs
I think with 0 tech you can manual hold airstrike for that
only during That time?
that the most consistent frame where she stop
sounds like a pain 
she randomly stop at other frame but idk if there's a consistent frame during the first half of the fight
is this the time when her Hp falls below 50 or before that
the screen turns red for me when she falls below 50 hp and stops moving during that time should i hold my strikes till that time
what are u trying to engineer here
?
It seems that they don't have implacable, nakhi, or Eldridge retro
yeah so the most consistent way is get the last 2 strike out when Taihou stop moving and fast enough to hit the mob for extra dmg
i use musashi Shina Amagi so i was thinking if it would be better to hold my last 2 airstike for when the boss stops moving
the aim is always 1 or 2 shots
that comp will most likely not 1 shot so as long as u get 800k consistenly it should be fine
also with 0 tech using Yamato gun is better? since you want to delay Musashi debuff a bit for the CV
I should buy all of these to gain more exchange tickets right?
how do you buy the second floor in dorm
My best I do 1.1~1.2 everytime
800 gem
expensive
500 not 800
I missed The Yamato gun 
You have Musashi 

Okay it appeared that I was mistaken
But you are like just playing so you shouldn't worry about dorm yet, spend gems on dock space
What
I only got Musashi and stopped playing for some time i didnt farm event tokens 
i thought gph recommended 3rd dorm slot plus second floor
Alr thanks
We do 

care to explain your thought process behind that
he spent 1k gems on coobs
Didn't we have a command in #bot-spam for gems?
/gems
Gem Spending 101
Gems
in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.
As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.
Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.
This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:
- 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
- Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
- Dock space (remaining gems)
The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.
The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.
Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).
Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).
While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.
wall of text ok
he already made an oupsie when he started
no and yes. you buy and clear them for the resources, possible cat nodes, and chance for UR prints. whatever opsi currency converts to vouchers from there is w/e. but dont buy the loggers just to let them convert.
is there a chance to get these from Strongholds?The UR part
Yes
Kitty nodes
how in the fuck is darkness in tier 0
go ask the people who run the tierlist, not us
She’s not a bad ship
afaik she can't be that good to
I refer you to ectl server
how exactly?
we’re ALO gph guys, of course we ask questions about ectl tierings
without any actual proof of course
Also see that "❓❓"?
They have like 2 dudes running that website, give them a slack
i am just genuinely how a no rerun collab girl gets to be that strong
2 and a half
lore accurate, but still
wdym
basically he is more likely to use the 200 ap to get catnodes from either c3 or c5, tho he won't get the golden plates of the stronghold
clearly you havent been here for a while cuz collab ships have been pretty good ever since the SSSS Gridman one
ok, i didn't know that
Also would you want to continue playing a game your favorite franchise is collabing with if the collab ships are dogwater
i thought they were just there for collection.
Heart sisters 

it's not like they made them as strong as an ur
Redefined what it means to be ass
so you thought since she was a collab she was bad?? what kind of flawed logic is that
yeah, collab are made to be used and be enjoyed so they make them at least usable usually
Is this good?
ectl would have had a field day with that logic
no
woa woa woa don't do research in PR4
switch to gear focus if you're doing PR4 research focus
Shit
Because you’re wasting your time
they're coinable so just move on to PR7 or something
Pr4 research is fine if you’re gear focusing
for some reason
Should i change it here?
pr4
I would still reccomend sticking with PR4 focus but you should be focusing on getting gear not ships blueprints
But we have tenrai in lab + shop
Pr4 for the 109gs?
i need 2more prints for my 2nd 109
109s, Twin 90s, an Agir gun or 2 and Saiuns
Understandable
wdym
ye
Thoughts on replacing Shima for Z52? Also any changes I could make(switch places etc.)?
if youre not gonna get insta nuked
you technically could replace guam for z52
Is there any use for getting a 2nd pr5 cl gun? Beside the more the better
I would keep Shimakaze for fast clears
you can use 2 as opposed to 1
but la9 more impactful
the more the better and also +20 FP for BBs
Should I get a 2nd pr6 gun or start getting pr7 plane
Arbiter in this season can kill z52 fast. At least-50% hp. Best ignore any heals
Ok 3q
is vanguard next in line to become perm for the URs?
this is from the wiki, what are the 4 tabs? what is max enhance vs max rarity vs max stats?
Max enhance is +13 or +11 or +7 or basically max.
Max rarity excludes lower rarity versions of the same gear.
Max stats includes all rarities at +10 or +6
or +3 for gray gear, you get the idea
ah ic
is max rarity at +10 or +13
okie
does the arcade prize shop ever reset?
We got added prices once though
Do the Prize Shop gear skin boxes ever come back some other way?
doesnt look like it
all I see is a montly obtainable limit of 10k
In gear lab currently only the mk7 406mm and the twin 100mm type 98 use UR main gun plan right?
hanagumo
Wait till 20th for gear lab
I'm assuming you meant Kazagumo since she's the only -gumo in the entire game
Which yes just give her a 76mm
<@&472236072743600148> scam
/ban 427445654059614209
arfonia.#0 got banned.
thank you
Is mushi fdg vanguard my best choice for meta boss? I also have russian BB mlb
Btw ping admins for this stuff
got it
which boss?
someday ppl will learn that mods cant ban
Pinging admins is hard though... :/
Right side
or do anything else fun
By Russian BB you mean Soyuz? If so she's most likely better than FdG
Yes ok 3q
Who flag mushi or russian?
So that 1000lb boom have more damage than this 2000lb bomb?
uhh how did you come to that conclusion?
Sushi flag
Ok 3q
Though idk how well it'll go without BisZ
skyraider has 8x hvar rockets on top of the 1 bomb
Armor modifier and AVI stat
how does avi stat matter
20 more Avi 
Waiting her rerun can't do anything about that
20 Avi is relatively little, won't make much of a difference, armour mod ofc depends on the armour, but the rockets are more important anyway
20 is practically nothing
the extra AVI is negligible for one
two, the 2000 Ib bomb has higher modifiers for medium nd heavy armor
20 Avi is like what? 2% at best?
Yeah I was high so I read the number wrong
/ban 322953132814368772
berseker212657#0 got banned.
Woah what did he send to get banned
"free" money
Links
Naa new account
Oh lol
there's ban appeals for those scenarios anyways
Please do not click those links 
Game isn't even on steam yet we need steam money to play this 
Lmao
10/10 would click if it was free gems
Like at least try man
Frr
2fa gonna save my ass from being hacked
Is Kearsarge still useable anywhere 
yes
PvP?
hell naw
anti light leets only
why would a BB with no secondaries be relevant in pvp
So to maximise my gain from OpSiren, I should: ?
Clear all Explorable nodes
Clear all Hidden nodes
Clear all abyssal nodes when they pop up
Fight Arbiter
Clear all coordinate logger
Idk that's y I'm asking
Anything else that I should do and not do?
Do the Strongholds
👍
do everything on the map
Was jintsuu meta a battle pass meta or the every few month one
I feel like I missing something
meta sd
Wht is meta sd
Sd
Showdown
Oh nice nice
Meta showdown
Hope she will be added to the thingy soon
clear everything
use excess ap on c5 zones to farm stuff
u can also farm c1 zones in middle of month to spawn akashis and get ap boxes
likely to be added in 25 days
If it has an icon on it do it
Daily missions?
Where is C5 and C1
C means corrosion and the number is the level
All over the map, 2 near NY
Oh how U know
meta sd ends in 25d
Having my fleet clearing out the few last Hidden node
I mean how U know the next one to be added is her
cuz shes next in line
And everytime a new one gets added an old one gets added to dossier
Be a good slave and spam c1
Ya I mean how U know which one will be added? Or it's according to release order?
Secured zone farming is a thing?
Likely yeah

c1 farming can prove to be valuable
because you can spawn akashi nodes
which she can sell ap boxes
from yesterdays c1 farming sesh, i earned 500 ap
It's a pain but if U do have time U will net profit on ap
with Strategic search, yes
erm. is there a way to prevent the [concealment] boss in opsi from healing herself?
I tried farming with 500ap and ended up with 800ap in box total, tho U won't always be this lucky there are times where U will lost instead
manual and hold 6 airstrikes, get the boss to 31% HP, and dump all strikes at once
you mean, that's how one out damages its healing?
burst it down before the heal kicks in?
Wht if he fails to kill it
just brute force it
Or have high enough damage to just kill it with healing
So I have to manually buy when my fleet found akashi
That's y if U have time
does the boss always heal when it's under 30% hp? or does it come in rounds?
I rather spend my oil
why cant u do both
Ya y can't U do both
Read the descriptions of skills 
Good idea
Actually I prefer going to sleep or do something else while opsirn is farming
It can auto loop untill akashi shows up then U buy and click auto again
then dont do it, its that simple
All U have to do is just check in every few min
Yeah I get it
You can turn off stop with Akashi... don't recommend it, but it's an option
then you just dont waste time on c1
and i guess if i can't burst it down... i should just give up on the map and move on?
you have 4 fleets bud
Are you fighting an Arbiter or what
arbiter doesnt have that skill
use all 4 fleets
my main fleet does around 35% dmg to its health in the entire round...
the other ones have no chance lol
Then cut your losses and exit 
well for future note
How long you been playing thisg game
that doesnt matter
if you know your fleets are week, wait until you have enough Adapts stacked to make your life easier
towards the end of York 2 event
have u killed the 2 nodes on the side of the map
Orig or rerun
also just brush up on your fleet building and gearing issues and make them stronger
yeah. fought boss (68% hp), minion, boss (35%), minion, boss (28%)
but yeah, been playing for less than a month i guess
good progress
at least you hit milestones
what are your values on these 3 adaptation?
197, 200, 210
yeah you need to level up your ships. Level is important.
I see zero UR for starters
where would i get a UR when i just started.. lol. waiting for end of Feb new UR event
Research, where you Anchorage, Izumo amd Odin from
Work on a UR atleast, you can coin one PR and one DR each day, free
yeah. trying to lunlock FDG right now... working on main fleet combat exp. sadly i only have Odin and Gneisenau.
scharhost has not blessed me in my 100 runs at divergent war archive
Odin and Izumo...
odin, izumo, anchorage... to be precise
best gold gun for general use on agir?
Do you have CB gun with AP shells?
no
Best would be Guam gun, but from the sound of your question, I don't think that you have it
isnt that a rainbow gun
i think they said gold
agirs gun from pr4
Kronshtadt gun
B-50
Also gold
305 sk c/39 main gun? tbh ive only played for a month so when you guys say xyz characters gun im not tracking
Yes
ty
B-50 Triple 305mm
So why not c6?
which stage takes more ap to enter and auto
Once you full clear map all you really care abt is the cat nodes
and cat nodes and prob the same
reason why ppl also do c3
K 👍
will this beat w14?
probably
only one way to find out
center biszwei
i just did some of the opsi story nodes and now there aren't anymore and it also told me to do something but i removed teh popup that told me what I was supposed to do what do I do to unlockj the next part of the story?"
shift the Tenrai to Amagi's first slot and use a Barracuda in slot 2
also swap Eldridge and San Diego around
We are once again asking you to stagger amagi and Shinano better, and put tenrai in amagis first
actually just give me one sec
Oh yeah we can't have his boss vanguard being wiped in a few seconds by the 14-3 boss like someone's aegir, 2lb z52, and Allen did, now can we
oh so you saw that too

ah thanks my dude
there
thank you 
What the best way to get this star? Because I keep getting the scanning facility instead of the data tower when I do repeat search, or do I just pray that I get it?

should musashi be in the mob or the boss fleet?
once you get past first 4 chapters
itll be smooth sailing
Depends on the chapter, your fleets, and your available ships
upgraded auto right?
90% of ops is just auto
w14, and she died in the boss fleet with enty, unzen, guam, anchorage, and shinano
few questions: is HPFCR stack with Alliance+ of Prince of Wales? and if yes what's meaning of "Decreases the loading time of this ship's first Main Gun volley by 100%."?
yes; its effectively a preloaded strike
Fdg mob and Musashi boss is standard. Make sure Shinano and Enty are staggered, Musashi is using a fast gun or -15% first load. Also give Musashi a 🧯
Ooh
That might explain her dying
What’s up with the research options? After this last patch im getting ships I have maxed as research options even though I have maxed all PR 1~6 and have the needed blueprints if the URs did get a FS later. Before now I would only see ships I “needed” blueprints for like napoli but now harbin and others are popping up even at Dev. Lv.30 FS 5
not yet
working on PR7 everything else is completely maxed
your focus is set to pr7 right?
yeah
Working on pr7 but is it finished?
When you complete a research season completely, when you roll a D research for that season. it can be any ship.
If you have any unfinished ships, when it rolls the D research for that season it only gives unfinished ships
afaik the research lab has 3 focused, 2 unfocused, and then rolls the type regardless of how many ships you have completed (i.e. you have as many d researches before and after completing a season)
so if you were to complete pr6 you'd still be getting the same number of d researches just that all the old ships you completed would appear again in D-types
research focus guarantees at least 3/5 researches will be from the season you're focusing, it can be more than that
either ive been lucky for the pasted 4 years or something changed because when i would finish a ship she would never show up in the options (to the point only napoli or ADM Nam would show up as direct reseaches)
you could have gotten the 215 extra for both by now...
It doesn't check for 215 fs5
oh right since it doesn't exist yet
say, whats the best combination for a boss fleet backline?
for what
It sounds like you just dev 30'd all of pr7 or have enough to do so
w14
extremely possible lemme check
something like this would work just fine
oh yea, i do have em
boss fleet good
is that the best combination though?
more than enough
maybe, maybe not, no one actually cares to find the best though since there's so many fleets that are good enough
You have them but you're using enterprise?
or are they not limit broken or leveled
this looks like a glasscannon fleet 
itll be fine
its cheekys remake
kill them before they kill u 
just shaboing the enemy
alsace is 2 stars away from mlb, amagi is 1 away, shinano is mlb, plymouth isnt even close to ready, and brest, havent gotten er ready
so that fleet is pretty worthless for you then
nor do i have all the gear required
🧵
Build fleets you can build instead of asking for fleets you can't copy
will get er eventually
can haku be a good drop in for enty?
point is better to use a fleet you could get ready in a few weeks rather than a few months
i heard on opsi you should farm lvl 5 for gear lab mats is that right or no?
ok i see that's what it was, i have enough to Dev. 30 all of PR7 so now it's focused on 7 but like you said i dont need anything so i can once again get random D researches from past PRs even if they are maxed. tyty lads

If she's at least dev 25 then yes
got er at dev level 29
focus on clearing the story for now then we can see how u will do the remaining content 
I'm confused why would you replace enty with a <d30 haku
what sorta gear do ya drop on the d29 haku?
Realistically any combination of level 125 gold/rainbow ships with the roles covered should steamroll chapter 14
w14 is insanely powercrept at this point 
Typical campaign gear
apparently not enough for someone to rage quit after failing on 14-3
i mean, i head new orleans was decent
she's just tech realistically
not decent enough
what bout w15 drops, are they decent?
They're good tech too
unless you consider Portland retro plus to be decent
houshou is gud +1 rld
got er at 74
The ships you'll use to clear 15-4 will likely be far stronger than Houston ii
well, more than a year ago actually
isnt w15 just w13 with subs?
no
hahahahahaha
and a bajilion more planes
imagine W13-H and W14 had a child
i wish
W15 is just w1 with higher level and more enemies
how hard is w13h
15-4 has 3 "boss" fights to give you an idea
this doesnt look much like w13
not as hard as 15
shaboing indeed
soo, do i only need to drag long sandy for mobbin?