gameplay-help

[stark quiver]

Thanks

[storm heron]

4 hvar and 4 skyraider

[hollow gust]

Or just 8 hvars

[white agate]

current month arbiter is the strongest, right?

[left cedar]

Strenght is a pain, right, and i find her the most hard of all 3

[sweet delta]

november's strength is

[white agate]

idk, my game fps vs her go at like 10 fps

[haughty dust]

Random question but how come I can’t use any of these in the current event it seems to not wanna let me no matter what I try. It’s like a box with a slash through it.

[storm heron]

try again and show what slash you'er talking about

[white agate]

you use it to do raid top left without losing on rewards/oil

[storm heron]

cause that slash ain't real

[ivory pawn]

The slash is real. Just means you can’t use it because you still have tries left.

[storm heron]

ofc, Duh!

[ivory pawn]

Once you’re out of tries, the slash will go away and you can use them.

Alternatively you can use them to try the EX.

[storm heron]

you have tries left, so the ticket that gives you bonus run is redundant

15/15 bonus run remaining

spend that, and you'll be able to use the bonus ticket

[keen sable]

14 remaining is enough to make slash go away

[ivory pawn]

If you auto-repeat 15 runs at that time, yes.

[white agate]

idk, i never entered the event after i swiped my 10 gold plates

[left cedar]

Is there anythign i should retro or lvl up?

[keen sable]

Heiny

You seem to be missing ships for some reason but maybe just transitioning

Duis I guess

[sterile jolt]

an shan

[keen sable]

Only use mlb ships...

[left cedar]

if u already in farm lands and already have things for W13 and ahead
Them RLD and HIT for BBs and CVs, and EVA/FP for cruisers, and FP or TRP for DDs are a gud thing to go for ...

[soft osprey]

question, since they're coming back for rerun, are Blücher and Brünhilde good?

[left cedar]

med, they work, but not top tier

[white agate]

usable, but not meta by any means

[storm heron]

blucher T1 BB

nothing remarkable about both of them yeah

[white agate]

UR bb coff

[stark quiver]

I would only use pull tickets
Unless collection farmer

[eternal basalt]

Blücher can be gotten free from drop/store. No reason to miss out on her

[solid kite]

In here, 96 still flag? Also is the meta still 6x bidders? Got max rld in cats but not much in tech iirc

[keen sable]

there's no sub reload

[solid kite]

?

Or do u mean tech

[keen sable]

sub reload in tech

[solid kite]

Ah

[soft raft]

All the ships in that event are realistically FP tech fodder

[soft osprey]

eh, waifu enough

[short wagon]

is useful or no

[storm heron]

not worth the cost

[forest palm]

too niche to be useful

[hollow gust]

Wait that's the Marco gun , took a whole

[short wagon]

what if i already ahve one from research

[forest palm]

still no worth using

[hollow gust]

Stick with your +13 champange guns

[short wagon]

i only have 1 champagne and its 10

[hollow gust]

Work on +13 then :)

[short wagon]

i have a purple twin 410 on my musashi and i was looking at extra stuff i ave laying around and i saw this

no replace right

[keen sable]

It's terrible on musashi

[haughty dust]

I take it for that Op Si formation I posted earlier from the fleet maker. There is no way to indicate on that site what each individual fleet is for separately apart from the overall fleet name? I need to I guess right down why some of those same fleets are shown twice but have slightly different gear?

[short wagon]

thanks king

[keen sable]

So is champy though

[rain vine]

musashi requires an ijn main gun

[haughty dust]

Did my last message send? Discord is being weird on me

[keen sable]

That doesn't seem necessary to me. It's pretty clear that's your plan to gear swap based on enemy

[stark quiver]

Discord had a stroke
I think everything is fine now

[haughty dust]

I mean that I cannot remember which of the two different fleets serve what purpose without naming them. I do not see an option to do that on the website

[soft raft]

the API just took a massive dump

[haughty dust]

Makes sense to me. I just wasnt sure if it was just me or not

[haughty dust]

@keen sable

for example these nodes. I don’t recall which fleets to use.

[keen sable]

your mob

[haughty dust]

well then what about my other fleets. When do I use those?

[keen sable]

maps with red symbols

[haughty dust]

ok so what do you mean red symbols. The like red circle ones?

[keen sable]

yes those are red. red boxes also

purply red thing in the exact middle

[haughty dust]

hmm so just use what fleets 2 and then the second version of fleets 3 and 4?

[keen sable]

i mean if you go in you'll see it's just a bunch of scrubs in there

[haughty dust]

wdym?

[worldly pewter]

why do u have 700 ap is the true question

[keen sable]

there's nothing dangerous in explorable, secure, or hidden

[haughty dust]

still working on unlocking nodes for this month. I have barely done any of it

[keen sable]

or least there shouldn't be for someone like you

[forest palm]

you're wasting AP like that

[worldly pewter]

u can enter the areas then leave them to consume them
let the ap regen do its work

[woven star]

Twin 410mm Kai for fast barrage and mobing and Triple 410mm (10th Year Type Prototype) for some bossing as for Musashi

[hollow gust]

She will never use a non IJN gun

[woven star]

There's a bee gun... joke

[forest palm]

Japanese apparently sucked at using HE it seems

seriously for the almost 8 years the only good HE IJN gun is something from the base game

[soft raft]

IJN Triple HE Gun when

[woven star]

Seems HE gun not a way of samurai

[forest palm]

just gotta pray the 2nd GL update has something

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

Yamato waiting room

[haughty dust]

What are the three recommended EU subs btw if I build an EU sub fleet after IB one is finished?

[haughty dust]

so Albacore, Archerfish and Flasher?

OK I know I have Archerfish but not sure off hand on the other two and if I do not have the other two not sure how to get them. Let me look and see what I got

[forest palm]

Flasher is Limited, so~

[haughty dust]

ahh gotcha. Well going to check in a few. Do you know when Flasher comes back around then?

[forest palm]

Guam event which was like Dec 2023, so probably 2026

[haughty dust]

ok and 😢

Looks like so far all I have is Archerfirsh. I have an albacore but is the greek elite one not the SR one. That being said how do you get SR Albacore?

[forest palm]

PvP Shop

[soft raft]

Merit shop for 20k

[haughty dust]

ok

looks like I have to save up and wait then. She is not in mine today

[worldly pewter]

no flasher -> wolf
so shrimple i was there during the guam event and i have no idea how i didn't get flasher

[forest palm]

if you have LdV she kind of works

[vernal flume]

I assume my grabs are San Diego and enterprise, amiwright

[forest palm]

what Battleships do you have?

[ivory pawn]

Enterprise for sure. Maybe Hood instead of Sandy, depending on what your other BB options are?

[forest palm]

then Sandy is fine

[ivory pawn]

Well, that answers that question. Yeah, Enty and Sandy.

[vernal flume]

Aighty

Ty pookies

Oh, another question, do I modify my current formation after acquiring these new ships? I also have independence retrofitted

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[vernal flume]

[languid skiff]

newbie question, i just pulled Chien Wu, should i replace portald with her or just dont touch it since im lvl 44 ?

[soft raft]

dont bother

[hollow gust]

Just use her for fleet 2

[soft raft]

You have to raise Portland and do her retrofit for rookie mission
And she's a very good budget tank anyways, she doesnt get replaced until like roughly around the time you get to W12 as you start getting better tanks like Anchorage and the CBs

[languid skiff]

oh i dont have fleet 2 yet im barly making with all commisions asking for lv 30 ships xD

tyvm

[deep solstice]

does using lv 125 ships still give xp for ship development?

[vernal flume]

Blaster is there any modification I should make now?

[soft raft]

At this point Enterprise would be for a 2nd fleet when you get around to doing that

[vernal flume]

ty

[elfin hollow]

Tenrai vs BF-109G against medium armor?

[storm heron]

proceeds to use bf109g against algerieM

[rapid grail]

comparing fighter to db, not the same thing
though it does matter when putting it on a ship with a flex slot like implac's second plane slot

[left cedar]

⏲️

[forest palm]

wouldn't call that much of a flex outside of the 2nd Skyraider

[eager mulch]

2nd skyraider isn’t a flex it just shows you’re old

[ancient burrow]

how good would that be for W14 mob? assuming they're all max on everything

[zenith heron]

the only flex I see here are the ones that are hoarded in Gear Lab/Research

[eager mulch]

flex: ❌
proof that you’ve spent too much time in this game: ✅

[soft raft]

Should be doable
Only one way to find out, really

[zenith heron]

Backline is fine,

Unsure about Vanguard

[ancient burrow]

dont have much of options, i dont have guam, not as near as dev 30 shimanto, plymouth, etc

[zenith heron]

how about the limited DD's like Laffey 2 and Eldridge Retrofit to make it easier?

W14 after all is concealment and suicide boat hell

[ancient burrow]

i got them, both

laffey 2 instead of anchorage?

i got quite the poll of urs and srs tho, should i make a thread and post my dock?

[zenith heron]

well since you got z52 already maxed, it can go

Z52- Harbin - Eldridge Retro

only replace when MLB and Maxed

but then you should be fine

some peeps might have better ideas

you can put Anchorage at Boss Fleet, unless you already have a Tank there

[ancient burrow]

agir

[zenith heron]

you can so that other peeps can give opinions better than I can give

[zenith heron]

well I guess that might solve the problem

just replacing Anchorage to Eldridge Retrofit and putting Z52 at the most frontline Vanguard position should do it and make it easier for mob fleet

[slow fox]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sparkling_Reverie#Type_0-0

The random item has no eHP effects, right?

[ancient burrow]

W14 mob/boss help

[shut gazelle]

I'm a new player. Should I save for a UR or pull on the current banners?

[eternal moth]

Only pull a single time on light per day

[novel solstice]

Save. Do one pull on the light pool per day to complete the daily quest to build one ship, save all other cubes.

[eternal moth]

Yes, you want to save for URs, we have one coming in less than a month

[zenith heron]

only pull on light once per day

and never commit as much on the UR ships considering your main objective here is to build an optimal fleet that is budget friendly and enough to bring you till world 12 like your Starter for example over expensive options

[shut gazelle]

I have Chien Wu, so I wasn't sure if I should keep building my arsenal or save for bigger fish

[eternal moth]

None of the ships on the current banner are worth more than the possibility of getting the next UR

[quartz jungle]

It augments Reisalin Stout's skill, but doesn't change her eHP (she already has buff)

[shut gazelle]

What's the probability rate of pulling an UR?

[zenith heron]

stick to Portland for the newbie rewards to help your progress, also your Starter Destroyer as well...

Chien Wu can be on 2nd fleet if you want

[eternal moth]

1.2% for events.

[zenith heron]

1.2% if I believe, but still low enough to be barely commendable

[shut gazelle]

Is there any pity or pity system?

[forest palm]

the thing is the UR pool for events isn't diluted, so it's straight 1.2%

[eternal moth]

Let's put it this way: I started an alt in the beginning of December, and I was able to get halfway+ to pity (200 pulls) within the event time frame, so less than a month.

[white agate]

yes for ur events

[shut gazelle]

How many pulls?

[zenith heron]

pity system here per UR is basically 200 per copy

I won't advice hoarding it

[white agate]

400 cubes

[shut gazelle]

Jesus

[forest palm]

actually very realistic for an F2P

[eternal moth]

I think the final number I needed to pull to get Fritz was around 130, but you're guaranteed a copy at 200 pulls/400 cubes. I was then able to go for 100+ pulls to get Yorktown 2 right afterward.

And yes, that was as a completely F2P alt.

[white agate]

literally you get those half assing in 1 month and 2-3 weeks and ur events are every 3 months

[eager mulch]

AL is one of if not the most f2p friendly gacha

[sharp socket]

gacha is easy when you're lucky

[shut gazelle]

And how many days are the UR banners?

[eternal moth]

Generally 2 weeks

[white agate]

14

[shut gazelle]

There's no way at the rate I'm going lol

[eternal moth]

If you do all dailies and weeklies you're guaranteed 168 cubes/month, with a high likelihood of getting quite a few more as long as you're active with commissions.

[forest palm]

1 month alone gives you 168 cubes, then there's other sources

[shut gazelle]

Unless the events pay well with pull currency

[white agate]

and did i forget to mention that to get cubes you basically won't have to deal with people woth brainrot like you need to in other gatchas

[sharp socket]

they do not

your cube income is almost entirely dailies

[eternal moth]

The events themselves don't, but there's another event right now that gives cubes for doing commissions

[shut gazelle]

I'm only one week in...

[sharp socket]

youll get to having over 400 cubes in like 4 months its fine

[eternal moth]

As I said earlier, you'll be fine. Just do 1 pull/day on light and you should be fine to get very close to pity, if not there, by the time the event ends.

[harsh gust]

don't worry about it too too much, you very unlikely to need to reach the pity
and even if you get unlucky - missing one UR won't be that big of a deal if you're only 1 week in

[robust moth]

Been playing for years, never needed the pity drop

[shut gazelle]

What's the best farming routine for them? All I've seen them in is dailies and comms

[glossy granite]

And you use UR bullins to limit break DR's?

[white agate]

he also should have the cubes from the special event to get

[white agate]

u can't

[eternal moth]

DRs are only blueprints. You use UR bulins to limit break URs

[glossy granite]

Oh

[shut gazelle]

So there's a soft pity?

[eternal moth]

It's considered a spark, not a pity

[harsh gust]

no, but the base chance is 1.2%
it's high enough that you'll prolly get one copy way before 200 rolls

[eternal moth]

But due to math, you're highly unlikely to need to go to 200 pulls.

[shut gazelle]

What's the usual number?

[harsh gust]

usual number of what?

[shut gazelle]

Pulls below 200

[robust moth]

That's up to RNG

[honest vector]

Less than 200.

[harsh gust]

I mean with 1.2%
that'd be like 80

specific would depend on how lucky you are

[white agate]

400 cubes and no need to worry, first shinano event i got 4 gatcha nano in 200 pulls and one from pity(UR bulins were still new and i had not enough info)
alsace event got her from 200 pull pity so it's up to gatcha.
400 cubes to be safe and happy

[shut gazelle]

Feels simular to my experience with E7's gacha

Took skipping at least two banners to save up enough for guarantee

[forest palm]

understand during UR Events, the Rate Up UR is the only UR in the pool

[white agate]

no, here literally you can get to 400 cubes in like 1 month and 2-3 weeks and new ur banner are once every 3 months excluding rerins ofc

[shut gazelle]

Right, so no 50/50 nonsense?

[forest palm]

yup

[shut gazelle]

Thank god

I hate that crap

[harsh gust]

1.2% is specific chance of that specific ship, yea
there's no other urs running at the same time

[shut gazelle]

This game may actually be the best f2p friendly gacha I've experienced

[soft raft]

*You are guaranteed 168 cubes per month not counting Commission RNG and other non-regular sources

[fair lance]

Sometimes there's double ur events but one is in the event shop and you can get it from just playing the event

[white agate]

i may have farmed hard cubes commissions

[shut gazelle]

Second would probably be Eversoul

[dreamy blade]

AL is unique in that it makes most of it's money from skins and oath rings etc, since the premium currency and pull currency are separate

[soft raft]

Tho of course you can buy cubes with gems but the gem to cube ratio is horribly inefficient lol

[shut gazelle]

Game first, gacha second

[forest palm]

they make the pull rates good to incentivize the players to spend money on the outfits, which is a neat approach tbh

[shut gazelle]

Good com

Company *

This is the same company making Azure Promilia, correct?

[harsh gust]

eh, kinda

one of the companies making AL is the one making promilia

[white agate]

amyhow its been 5 days since my last la-9 blueprint and i literally went all in in 4h gold and 1,2,4 h rigging

[shut gazelle]

That's mainly why I tried this game, to see how the company treats it's players

Can't wait for Azure Promilia to come out

[dreamy blade]

well hopefully promilia doesnt follow the trend of weekly 8hr server maintenance

[white agate]

i like it tho

[soft raft]

Eh that's only a problem if you can't sleep thru most of it

[forest palm]

8 to 6 hours is fine

[sharp socket]

go to general chat if you're not here for questions related to azur lane gameplay

[harsh gust]

it's so players can take a break
all for your own sake

[soft raft]

The real problem is when maint goes longer than that

[forest palm]

be happy that AL is as stable as it is, some other gacha spend days offline

lookin at FGO

[viscid swift]

~~let's not mention Microlayer Medley ~~

[white agate]

i am not doing anything wrong i hope?

[fair lance]

Nope luck based

[viscid swift]

it's just RNG being RNG

[forest palm]

it does help to pick the right research

[white agate]

they are the best tho
rigging is inferior only to the 30 minutes ones and 4h gold(i mean the purple 4h costing gold) is the best gold one

[shut gazelle]

How does the research system actually work. I just chose the one I could research without a thought, and now have no clue what to do

[glossy granite]

Any specific reason why some ships give crazy amount of tech points and some dont? Some ships will give you like 80 for just limit breaking and some only 30 if you MLB lvl120

[harsh gust]

there's a number of tasks you can complete
if you finish with them - you'll get a pretty strong ship
then you need to do researches to obtain blueprints and upgrade these ships
it's a pretty slow process and just something you do in the meantime

[viscid swift]

well minor faction ships give more tech points because there's less of them and so do most older IB ships because there weren't a lot of them either early on in the game's life

[shut gazelle]

I've just been treating it as something running in the background

[zenith heron]

Curiousity hit me,

If I could recall, did Z52 powercrept Laffey 2 in some contents like being the better tank due to Flagship Cover?

[harsh gust]

as you should
just do it in the background since you probably can't do much with it yet, just collect blueprints for now

[viscid swift]

well she's definitely not a better tank just looking at her for that role

[shut gazelle]

So focus on the ones with the blueprints if available?

[barren tapir]

not at all. they do different stuff with some overlap

[zenith heron]

Huh, that's weird

I recall some of the peeps here suggesting Z52 at Tank Position

[viscid swift]

yeah, she can tank, she just isn't better at it than Laffey 2

[white agate]

uh, i use her offtank; pretty sure she is no good main tank

[shut gazelle]

Jesus that pvp

[harsh gust]

latter season ships are generally better, so you might want to prioritize those

[barren tapir]

cos she is durable enough to tank, that doesnt make her tankier than laff2

[zenith heron]

Well its barely on pvp, but more on bulk convo, do that on #pvp

[shut gazelle]

That's what I've been doing

[zenith heron]

Well put

[honest vector]

Plus Laff2 can equip manjuu.

[barren tapir]

if laff2 needs manjuu what r u doing (besides pvp)

but yeah she can

[viscid swift]

PvP

[zenith heron]

I put my Manjuu on Eld, unless PVP

[honest vector]

Just in case.

[barren tapir]

[thick perch]

should i quit al

[zenith heron]

Ask #al-general for that

[shut gazelle]

I'm referring to your profile pic bro

Pfp (stupid autocorrect)

[soft raft]

yeah and that is not a topic covered by this channel

[barren tapir]

i dont get it and i dont want to

[shut gazelle]

Just figured I'd clear up that misunderstanding, that's all

[barren tapir]

oh pfp not pvp ok i get it now

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research Tho you can safely ignore it much until you get to at least W9, ideally W12

or your lineup coincidentially happens to fufill the conditions for one of the PR1s like I did with Monarch

[elfin hollow]

Kearsarge goes with YKII who's the third? Enty?

[soft raft]

AvP for the freeze

[glossy granite]

Lol same here i finished Monarch without ever trying i just had a Eagle/Royal fleet the whole time

[stark quiver]

why not implac for freeze then?

[barren tapir]

i thought it was enty for standard light comp

[soft raft]

Implac would be with Shinano and Haku/Amagi CV if applicable

[glossy granite]

Now i wonder how long will it take to max out Friedrich 😅

[zenith heron]

Basically a freeze like AvP or worst Cases Ark,

Impla is probably used on the Amagi Comp

[toxic sandal]

should i +13 musashi's weapon(410kai)? what about z52's weapon(113)?
Should I 125 a tank like Roon?

[soft raft]

you wont be using Roon in content where lvl 125 would be relevant

you also cant upgrade elite gear past +11, which is barely worth doing

[barren tapir]

roons more dps than tank, shes good but youll no doubt have better options

[soft raft]

more like you Should have way better options by the time you tackle content with lvl 125+ enemies

[barren tapir]

idk about that bc roon is actually good nowadays.

[toxic sandal]

i run into a lot of 125ish in opsi though

[barren tapir]

i also wouldnt worry too much about spending arrays poorly, you do get enough to 125 a couple less meta ships here and there. but the key is to only 125 ships youll be using in endgame content, meta or not

also dont 125 a ship until you feel you actually need the extra dmg/bulk just sit on arrays til theyre needed

[barren tapir]

just work on getting anchorage and agir for tanks

lala is also a better tank than roon so you can use her for now

[toxic sandal]

so then the weapons not worth +11/+13ing?

[barren tapir]

just from my own experience ive had enough arrays to 125 every 'meta' ship and have 125ed as many waifus as metas and still have a bunch of arrays to spare.

8 meta ships and 8 waifu ships currently for me

[eternal moth]

I made my 410 Kai +11, but I also have a lot of spare resources, so it's up to you.

[forest palm]

I just don't use the Twin 410s on Musashi period

[eternal moth]

Not even the PR7 version?

[forest palm]

that one is AP

[viscid swift]

well tbf, 16 ships isn't that much especially when you consider 2 fleets will use 12 ships

[hollow gust]

I have 126 lvl125s

[barren tapir]

that's 4 ships a month you also dont necessarily get top end meta ships super quick as a new player

[eternal moth]

That's nice. You've also been playing since what, 2018?

[forest palm]

then they introduce Lv 130, and you have basically no Cog Arrays

[barren tapir]

if they introduce lvl130 new players will be fucked regardless so it also won't matter

[hollow gust]

Arrays weren't introduced until w14,

[slow fox]

thanks

[eternal moth]

I know, but it means you were in a place where you can get every single source of arrays since they were introduced.

[forest palm]

not really, 125 isn't impactful nor needed for majority of content, 130 would be literally no different, in fact it would be largely irrelevant to them

[barren tapir]

tbh i thought i had more before actually counting but ig it also shows u dont rlly need a lot of 125s to beat content

[sharp socket]

isnt there level difference for meta fights and such

[barren tapir]

true in which case just 125 waifus

[sharp socket]

and w15 being lv130 enemies

[barren tapir]

125 helps and 130 would help too but i really dont agree with the "you must 125 only these ships or you brick your account" like yeah prioritize meta ships but its not a big deal to 125 a couple others thats all im saying

[viscid swift]

well we've never said it'll brick your account

[barren tapir]

the real thing is 125 if you actually will use them in content, not just for show

[forest palm]

📣 you physically cannot brick your account in anyway in AL

[viscid swift]

just that most content doesn't require 125 and the content that does, it's not an insignificant difference and given how fairly time gated they are it's better to not spend them willy nilly

[forest palm]

unless you break TOS

[eternal moth]

Agreed. The only thing you can really do is slow yourself down

[viscid swift]

like, I've run into a not insignificant number of people who think that you want to 125 your fleet for W13

[barren tapir]

for sure. its just that you dont need to hyper obsess over who to 125, it ends up being pretty natural imo as you progress content and figure out what ships youll be using and what ships you wont. and the game gives enough up-front to allow for a couple suboptimal choices

my issue isnt being unable to 125 meta ships, its being unable to 125 the dozens of waifus i have

[eternal moth]

I 3* lethal'd 12-4 with a couple of sub-100 ships, so max isn't needed until later.

[viscid swift]

I mean sure, but it's not something even if minor I want to downplay the reality of the choices

[barren tapir]

so about 3.2 ships per month, sounds pretty normal

yes, ch14 was that long ago

[sharp hawk]

which of these should i buy first?

[forest palm]

honestly forget how many ships I have at 125, care more about Lv 120 Tech

[barren tapir]

the hiddens and abyssals

assuming, of course, that you're capable of doing the abyssals

[viscid swift]

I'm pretty sure I still have less than 60 125s at this point

[tight yarrow]

are there any sub on the w14 boss fight?

[viscid swift]

no

[tight yarrow]

tks the lord

[forest palm]

only have to worry about subs in mob for 14 + 15

[barren tapir]

and only dd nodes

[sharp hawk]

uuh which ones are those

[barren tapir]

recon fleet things

[sharp hawk]

the last pic?

[eternal moth]

The red treasure chests

[barren tapir]

wait my bad i confused people

these

[sharp hawk]

alr ty

[solid hedge]

Hi, Hiel meta is from the last operation siren, right?

[viscid swift]

no, she was from Amagi CV's event

[solid hedge]

So many meta ship, i'm so confused

[viscid swift]

just check their respective wiki page

[solid hedge]

The wiki page is too messy...which leads to more confusing 😭

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META

[viscid swift]

how?

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hiei_META

[granite rain]

Is Z52 preferred middle or off tank?

[soft raft]

most likely will end up being off-tank

[eager mulch]

You put ships in vanguard slots based on their relative tankiness

[stark quiver]

my z52 tanks all the time

[granite rain]

I understand, which is why I added "preferred."

[soft raft]

statement still applies tbh

[stark quiver]

she doesnt have a preferred slot

[eager mulch]

“preferred” means nothing when the place you put her depends on who you’re running her with

[obsidian ivy]

fleet tech q: Should I be worried about running out of CV to level? Especially compared to BB? I feel I should really start increasing BB leveling ratio

[stark quiver]

just mix the tech grind, 1 bb 2cv works, then move onto 2bb 1cv or something

[soft raft]

are you doing RLD/AVI/ BB FP tech grind? If not, then no not really
But iirc yes you will finish CVs first

[granite rain]

You can still prefer a ship in a slot. There may not be an absolute answer, but Helena is "preferred" middle slot. She may be better in my tank slot if I am slotting a bunch or purples, but I wouldn't prefer her there

[obsidian ivy]

Yeah I'm doing 1b2c and I'm already seeing that I'll actually run out of cv's completely to level in the near future, there's so many BB compared to CVs in the game

[eager mulch]

whatever

[viscid swift]

I would much rathe end farming 3 CVs than 3 BBs, put it like that

[eager mulch]

prefer all you want, it’s not what determines where you place your ships

[stark quiver]

her preferred slots are
tank,middle,off tank

[viscid swift]

do you know why that is exactly?

[granite rain]

Okay, great. In that order?

[eager mulch]

are those her pronouns?

[granite rain]

HP stat, skills, evasionm

[viscid swift]

no, I mean why it's preferably to have her middle

[sharp socket]

helena has 65% ehp so i put her middle

[stark quiver]

no, thats all the slots she works in, because it totally depends on fleet, her preferred slots depends on who youre running

[granite rain]

Low HP and a strong support skill with no tank skills, so she needs pritection and uptime

[eager mulch]

im gonna lose it if you bring up her kula gulf skill

[stark quiver]

because id much rather put helena as off tank, if im using kaza

[viscid swift]

close but not quite, it's because she's usually the most fragile ship in the vanguard

[sharp socket]

squishiest ship = middle, 2nd squishiest ship offtank, least squishy ship tank

[eager mulch]

^^^

[sharp socket]

thats how i do it

[granite rain]

I said low hp stat. I feel like this wasn't a hard question

[sharp socket]

just use ehp because theres more than hp stat

[viscid swift]

put it like this, is your vanguard dying or coming close to it

[stark quiver]

but but ... i always put sirius as off tank even with helana and a tank

[viscid swift]

if it isn't then your positioning is either fine or doesn't matter because you're farming easy content

[eager mulch]

Nah he said helena prefers middle so i guess kaza is getting to sit on an extremity

[sharp socket]

you even have a math addict making ehp chart for every vg ship and updating it regularly

[viscid swift]

if it is then start evaluating which ships in your fleet are tankier/squishier than the others and adjust accordingly

there's no hard rule for anything, heck I'm using Naganami right now to main tank the 12-1 boss

[granite rain]

Part of why i am asking is becaude if I am weighing who to MLB and I don't know her strength at high stats, I would like to weight her against ships where I know their most successful roles

[viscid swift]

well then just ask the question in the first place then

[sharp socket]

helena's role is big damage (rng) buff for bossing

[viscid swift]

she's an all rounder of sorts

[sharp socket]

her AA looks good but it isnt really that good

[viscid swift]

good AA, good damage, pretty tanky, flagship cover and has a small damage debuff

[sharp socket]

her guns is alright too

[eager mulch]

helena or z52

[viscid swift]

she's not the best at anything but she's a good all rounder

[sharp socket]

by not really that good i meant i wouldnt send her to 15-1

[viscid swift]

and that would be on you

[soft raft]

Fym you wouldn't what

[viscid swift]

Z52 is like top 6 vanguards for W15

[soft raft]

Meanwhile I'm actively considering yeeting Shimanto for her

[sharp socket]

meh fine i guess its alright

[viscid swift]

which are in no particular order
Guam, Laffey 2, Z52, San Diego, Shimanto, Eldridge retro

[sharp socket]

im trying not to be biased since i ringed her

[soft raft]

[eager mulch]

i ringed two helenas

[stark quiver]

who are we talking abt now

[viscid swift]

Amagi chan clearly

[granite rain]

I felt like asking what slot people like her in covered that tbh, but maybe I was mistaken

My bad anyway

[viscid swift]

well what position they take in the fleet has next to nothing to do with what they actually do

[eager mulch]

it’s literally just their relative ehp compared to the others

[granite rain]

Fair enough. Her skills read like support sklills to me, but I have no idea what she looks like at the top end

[eager mulch]

I don’t even have z52

[viscid swift]

Something like that

[eager mulch]

i could probably get her if i grinded rn tho

[sharp socket]

how do you grind a z52 when her event is not here

[eager mulch]

luckily she’s tech tree

[viscid swift]

can't blame you, but Z57 7km hydro soon so

[eager mulch]

that’s not hydro anymore that’s long lasting radar

[viscid swift]

we're talking about this z52

[sharp socket]

[eager mulch]

ok off topic convo done

back to gph maxxing

has mebot gotten the main fleet ehp yet

[viscid swift]

no clue

[vale spindle]

he used to have it then i think he got bullied into main fleet ehp doesn't matter

[eager mulch]

has samheart updated all the commands yet

/crossfleet

[vale spindle]

the commands automatically update when i upload the new images
which i haven't done yet

[eager mulch]

not in ectl

i forgot where i was for a moment

[carmine heath]

Do you stop gaining xp for pr ships if you maxed out ship xp?

[forest palm]

nope

[eager mulch]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[carmine heath]

[tender lotus]

Can you show me the gear setup?

[lunar epoch]

is there a site where there are recommended fleets for certain worlds?

[viscid swift]

not really

[forest palm]

won't need a proper fleet till like 14 either way

[lunar epoch]

yea ik im on 15 😭

[stark quiver]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[lunar epoch]

is perseus not valuable in 15?

[eager mulch]

no

[storm heron]

I've seen an (outdated) sample fleet with perseus but I just don't buy it so

[eager mulch]

buying accounts is against tos so

[granite rain]

Did he mean buy it as in purchase or buy it as in believe it lol

[icy cave]

He meant he didn't believe it lol

[sweet delta]

is fritz good in w15 mob?

[granite rain]

Yeah, I thought that was obvious but like

[icy cave]

Maybe turtle has never heard that expression before it's allgood

[eager mulch]

those who know

[carmine heath]

fybre is actually buying people to play al for him a la elon musk

[granite rain]

Wait, you actually play the game?

I thought we were all memeing

[carmine heath]

I spend 15 hours a day on al

[sweet delta]

then i'd say perseus is better than good

[granite rain]

Gud if combat short, bad if combat long

Big brain answer

[storm heron]

damn perseus appears to be better than fritz in w15 mob

[runic bluff]

if only the ai picks up ammo node

how people even full auto this consistently

[storm heron]

full auto as in clearing mode?

[runic bluff]

yeah

[sweet delta]

it's only 6 mob battles, and safe threat = trivial

[fickle hollow]

idk how i have this,what should i choose?

[forest palm]

the 130

[robust jasper]

i got muted from the only tierlistin discord i know off

[forest palm]

ok...

[robust jasper]

how do i figure out how to gear stuff now\

[robust jasper]

how do i gear my stuff?

or know which ships are good or bad

[storm heron]

I mean if you were to spam bot here you'll get muted too so...

[robust jasper]

whats a bot?

is that the ranger thing i couldnt use?

[storm heron]

bro literally spam ranger

[robust jasper]

bro, what is spam?

and now they want to ban me, for simply not knowin stuff

they just banned me for not knowin how to gear or anythin

[fickle hollow]

Musashi-Independence -Enterprise are fine for W12 right?

[robust jasper]

duno, want me to send ya somewhere that will awnser it

[robust jasper]

just sent ya a dm to the proper source, if they dont ban ya instantly

[fickle hollow]

[storm heron]

mob or for boss? looks pretty okay main fleet for boss

[dreamy blade]

do you mean for your boss fleet? musashi on flag for 12-4 boss can be a bit dicey since musashi as the only bb will tank all the plane dmg, and if she sinks you lose

[storm heron]

if not the best if you keep resetting enty till 100% owarida

[sweet delta]

this is the best place to get gameplay help, why do you want to send him elsewhere

[robust jasper]

cuz the place i want to send him knows everything, allegedly, accordin to there owner

[fickle hollow]

For boss,I am using The ships i wanna lvl up for mob fleets

[storm heron]

I forgot some words are not allowed here

[robust jasper]

do you know where to go to report stuff?

[dreamy blade]

as long as your fleet's AA is solid it should be fine

[storm heron]

idk never done it before

[robust jasper]

is there anywhere here to open a ticket?

[storm heron]

then it's an okay boss fleet, the only issue you could have is your boss fleet failing because enty fails to proc anything tbh, you can replace enty with something else like the UR CVs and it should be safer that's an overkill boss fleet for w12

[fickle hollow]

Should i craft these for Kazagumo/Watarase ,i am going full glass cannon on them

[eager mulch]

it’s W12 it’s not gonna be too difficult

[dreamy blade]

those are for subs, hence "sub torps"

[robust jasper]

trust in the invite, for they can provide amazing help by banning those who dont autolearn

[dreamy blade]

this is not the place to complain about being banned in a different discord

[storm heron]

OH I'm sorry lol @fickle hollow I misread w12 as w15

[eager mulch]

A) those are sub torps
B) glass cannon is a bad idea

[dreamy blade]

watarase also doesnt scale that hard off of torp stat since a good chunk of her dmg is from her skill barrage

[fickle hollow]

i will swap enty out once she reaches 120

[storm heron]

I think you can swap musashi out for a level 100 BB and it should be fine

[dreamy blade]

looks totally fine

[storm heron]

like raise another ship in lieu of musashi

[fickle hollow]

Then Bismarck would be fine right

[storm heron]

is her skill barrage not scaling off trp?

[fickle hollow]

she is lvl 107

[dreamy blade]

good question, i didnt think it did but i dont actually know for sure

[fickle hollow]

will this work

[dreamy blade]

youre right

[viscid swift]

you'll be more than fine given some of the garbage I run through W12

[storm heron]

preferably a triple gun like the triple 406, but sure anything is very likely gonna work

[dreamy blade]

the only issue running garbage there is gearing, and judging from your bis youre probably fine in that regard

[viscid swift]

Like so

[storm heron]

umm that's a mob fleet

[dreamy blade]

do you not have toolboxes on your dds or is their base hp really that low

[carmine heath]

Is this a good gun on bismark

[eager mulch]

no amagi-chan in that fleet

[eager mulch]

that’s a bad gun on everyone

[fickle hollow]

which one? i have only 1 parallel bomber rn

[carmine heath]

[storm heron]

eld with 1.9k hp

[carmine heath]

Do I just put a 406 mk6 on her then

[dreamy blade]

oh just 1 toolbox

[zenith heron]

If you don't have any parallel torp bomber, no choice but to use any converging bomber then, unless you have more tech boxes to open a Gold Barracuda

[dreamy blade]

wasnt this for your boss fleet anyway? converging is fine

[fickle hollow]

Thank u guys

[dreamy blade]

im also a shill for the breguet if you have spare core data

[fickle hollow]

I will get +1 white shell for my NJ this time

Is the breguet good?

[dreamy blade]

basically a better gold barracuda, and also has interception

poverty wyvern

[storm heron]

fastest "tb" with interception and barracuda damage

[carmine heath]

is bismark good because im mostly using her for pr tech

[dreamy blade]

thats what shes good at

[carmine heath]

no bulins for her then

[storm heron]

for faction tech and bb fp tech

[viscid swift]

You should still MLB any ship you're using

[carmine heath]

I am in poverty and have 3 sr bulins left

[runic bluff]

no merits?

[viscid swift]

I would rather just not use her then if she's gonna be stuck at 0 LB and not storing any xp

[carmine heath]

Anyway is this a decent mobbing fleet?

[viscid swift]

For?

[runic bluff]

seems fine for me for leveling purpose (w12-1/4)

[carmine heath]

w12/13

[runic bluff]

w13 you need more than that

w12 its fine for leveling

[carmine heath]

screw it back to basics throwing all my high leveled ships into a fleet to level bash 13

[viscid swift]

San Diego you'll probably need for the boss fleet in w13

[runic bluff]

although I might suggest replacing sara to any non 120 cv/cvl (preferably those in the meta for the long run and around lv 100 (not the META faction) ) if youre leveling for tech fleet in w12

[carmine heath]

I dont think i have any decent cvs for that

yk2 is never getting mlbd because not only am I in poverty im also poor

[viscid swift]

You can start working on Hornet 2

[runic bluff]

hornet II since you have her mlb

[carmine heath]

Is it worth it to level some for the collection rewards?

[safe hound]

the manjuu’s pretty good imo

[rain vine]

if said collection rewards are gems, yes

[runic bluff]

also the manjuu that gives you immortality for x seconds before sinking

[runic bluff]

furniture not much

is the missions after you tap your secretary.....the closest thing to bond stories?

[safe hound]

It’s probably always worth it to level up to get some fleet tech, personally I’m working on BB reload cuz sometimes it makes the difference between 3 and 4 salvos in a sortie

[keen sable]

gems are nice

[storm heron]

nah this one is just a catapult, I don't even have one and still be fine, don't farm houshou out of your way for it

other notable stuff include nelson's pennant for nelson and PVP items like Pearl's Tears and Washington Naval Treaty

[tender girder]

the T3 ordnance is worth it i presume?

[storm heron]

very

[tender girder]

ok

[rose cosmos]

Wait where is this shop

[tender girder]

i found it in first city

[rose cosmos]

Resupply?

[storm heron]

it's opsi pre-Chap4 shop

[tender girder]

i have no clue waht this means but seems like it will take forever to craft the rainbow BB gun

[keen sable]

pre refresh

[keen owl]

Found it

[zenith heron]

Its basically the Blue Port Shop of OpSi when the Story of it is still ongoing, it changes once you Finish OpSi Story then it refreshes at the Start of the Month

[tender girder]

ooo

is there any reason to delay finishing story then?

[zenith heron]

No

[keen sable]

no just 6 months

[zenith heron]

There are more rewards if you did OpSi after the Story and Reset

Curious again....

Does the Cosmic Kicks have use in some contents?

[sweet delta]

in pve, it's a "poverty" beaver and somewhat useful against Arizona meta.
in pvp, it's a poverty sneaky

[whole crypt]

for some people 6 month is longer than forever 🙃

[sharp socket]

6 months passes in like 4 days

[zenith heron]

Then I guess its just one use only I guess, since Beaver exists

[carmine heath]

rainbow bb gun?

[whole crypt]

either Mk7 or 457

[zenith heron]

Triple 406 Mk7 and the Twin 457

[sharp socket]

mk7 is even shorter its like 3 months max

[sweet delta]

7 months min because of wyverns

[whole crypt]

457 takes longer because of ordrep scarcity

[zenith heron]

If you can hoard your resources well, 1.5 months to a mk7 seems alright...

But the 457 is probably too much time

[carmine heath]

I would have mk7 but prioritizing wyverns

[whole crypt]

but yeh I'd craft other rainbow gear before Mk7

[carmine heath]

• dont have any bbs so

[whole crypt]

wyvern is higher priority anyway

[zenith heron]

Tbf, 457 is a niche, considering Champy/Flandre/Soyuz Guns exist

[whole crypt]

Mk7 is just a shiny Mk6 if you don't have at least 240 gold plates waiting for it

[sharp socket]

457 use for mobbing

[silk sphinx]

Also PvP tbh

[sharp socket]

you only need one which you can get from protocore shop

[whole crypt]

457 is best mobbing gun for late campaign

[sharp socket]

pvp is the same only need one

actually maybe not even used because mk4

[zenith heron]

For Mobbing tho, seems that 457 is better due to it being AP compared to the twin 410 kai which is just HE and slightly faster? Looks like a ↔️

[sharp socket]

w14 has alot of med/heavy armor so 457 is good there

[whole crypt]

@sweet delta I mean +12 is already a significant difference, but yes

[sharp socket]

for w15 sushi with twin 410 is best

[sweet delta]

CVLs and BB/BBV/BCs are medium/heavy

225 plates then

[sharp socket]

boss for w14/15 can use 457 also for stagger

[whole crypt]

I'm just lazy to think of the exact number than 2/3 of 360

[formal robin]

Do ships that are map drops have the same chance of dropping as other rarities in the same map, that aren’t map drop only?

[soft raft]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[rose cosmos]

Is there a way to specifically farming this

[soft raft]

Nope

cloest you can get is beating normal difficulty arbiter and using the selector crates on them

[rose cosmos]

I already drained all 30 crates from both hard and normal, it's not enough

[soft raft]

That's just how it is

[rose cosmos]

It's insane, all rainbow tier weapons need it, shit is prob even more valuable than rainbow prints

[soft raft]

only 5 UR gears in gear lab need electronics
It's mainly the fact that the majority of the good gear in gear lab in general requires gold electronics

[stark quiver]

doesnt take electronics?
bricked by ords

[forest palm]

[lavish dirge]

dorm slot 6 costs 1200 gems right

This should be enough for quite some time right :nails:

[wind hazel]

depends on how hard you collect

[lavish dirge]

gotta catch them all

[wind hazel]

then it's not enough

[stark quiver]

then it wont be enough lol

even i needed an excess of 100 dock to farm events

[lavish dirge]

I mean could it be enough for at least 5 months maybe

[stark quiver]

but i do know someone who has 100% collection rate with only 800 dock

[wispy cosmos]

you dont even need 800

[wind hazel]

collecting is one thing but having just only ~40 extra space isn't the nicest quality of life when you're farming

[wispy cosmos]

~40 spare is all you need, that's enough that your runs wont be interrupted by a full dock

[wind hazel]

personally i disagree

[stark quiver]

i mean technically you can just have enough to do a 3run, but thats kinda annoying

[wispy cosmos]

712 ships in the game, throw on another 30 slots for bulin/purin stockpile, 40 slots for drops = 780 is the minimum necessary for full collection with good quality of life

[stark quiver]

also hi astrata

[robust jasper]

So, what sort of fleet comp do I need for w14?

[runic bluff]

at least one in each vanguard that can deal with subs equipping the hedgehog iirc the name

[wind hazel]

good asw mobbing

and good bb with interception

[robust jasper]

Alr

What's good ships or gear for asw?

[wind hazel]

what do you have

[robust jasper]

Most ur ships

[runic bluff]

ummmm show your ships

[wind hazel]

musashi and alsace then

[robust jasper]

Alr

[storm heron]

good gear for asw include the hedgehog, depth charge, ASW plane

[runic bluff]

also please make a thread if showing stuffs like 3+ pages of images or gears

[robust jasper]

Just waiting for the game to load

Are these good?

[runic bluff]

oh yeah BB needs that fire control aux

[storm heron]

center the musashi and fdg

[wind hazel]

no, need to fix a lot of stuff

[runic bluff]

you need hit stat because they kinda dodgy

[robust jasper]

How do I fix it though, since some other server claimed the bb must be off center

[wind hazel]

tell that other server they dont know what are they talking about

[runic bluff]

ummm youre dealing with suicide ships, you want a bb to be center for the most part

[stark quiver]

illus doing gods work

[storm heron]

do you have proof?

[robust jasper]

Centered the bbs

Any other advice?

[wind hazel]

just open thread, your fleet needs more fixing than just the BB

[robust jasper]

Will open in morning

[wind hazel]

[runic bluff]

yeah im wondering why guam and anchorage for mobing??

or even bosses

[robust jasper]

It's what some folks online claimed was smart

[runic bluff]

my bad, im used to fleet one being mob

[storm heron]

you're saying

[runic bluff]

I mean for bosses

[robust jasper]

And ägir is dev level 19....

[robust jasper]

Would it help if agir was beyond dev level 19

[storm heron]

oh yea the agir is bad

[wind hazel]

so why are you waiting for morning to open a thread

[storm heron]

might as well dump agir and use something esle

[robust jasper]

Just more time in the morning

[storm heron]

[robust jasper]

And someone from another server is blowing up my dm's

[wind hazel]

yapping here now randomly is less time?

[runic bluff]

ehhh??

[wind hazel]

i dont get the logic

[stark quiver]

[nimble knoll]

What map/WA gives the most coins?

[robust jasper]

Will get the thread done in morning

[storm heron]

alright

see you next morning I guess (?)

[storm heron]

12-4 or any world 12 is the best one, push there and be wise about your coin spending

most coins won't do any good for you cause you're still new

[nimble knoll]

I keep getting to max coins cuz of DC, So I've been spending it on Gold Tech Boxes In the shop and Upgrading, And getting sum researches (is this gud to do?)

[storm heron]

oh lord no don't gold tech boxes

[runic bluff]

ummm just save it

[wind hazel]

just so you know max coin is 600k

[storm heron]

I think spending coins on gold tech boxes are like numbah wan newb trap

[nimble knoll]

Well not Max Max, But 43k* is the Max I can get-

[wind hazel]

dont go wasting your coin because it's maxed out on the soft cap

[runic bluff]

you can still get coins over the limit fyi

just not in the idle coin production

[storm heron]

I forgot which channel recommend me back then to buy gold tech boxes, but I will sue them

[wind hazel]

using coin on research is very good
upgrading can be good, but depends on what that upgrade is
using coin on techbox on shop is very bad

[runic bluff]

I have like 250k currently

[wind hazel]

well unless they are on 90% discount

[storm heron]

anyways gold tech boxes source should be from

1. Events
2. guild shop if there are some
3. map drop

[nimble knoll]

If my Enty Fires her planes first before my Yt2, would her planes not get boosted by Yt2?

[storm heron]

idk tbh, I don't use yk II

[wind hazel]

unless im misreading it enty still gets the 10% dmg buff

[nimble knoll]

If I start using Kazagumo, who should she replace, Helena, Retro Laffey or Retro Portland?

[carmine heath]

laffey if your backline is mainly cvs

otherwise put her in a mainly cv fleet

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[misty tree]

Can ch15 support fleets carry tigercats or is that like an active detriment

[soft raft]

That wouldnt be too ideal
They fly faster than Flapjacks so they don't get as many opportunities to fire their guns

[sweet delta]

They reload much slower

[misty tree]

Tigercat has faster reload than flapjack though

[weary gust]

Wouldn't be the worst choice in the world though.

[fleet berry]

Flapjack has lower interception reload (9.01s) than airstrike reload (11.00s).

But yeah, Tigercat airstrike reload is faster than Flapjack.

[storm heron]

do you have laffey II?

[forest palm]

Not always a good thing

[storm heron]

idk why seven anons would have a preference on where you put laffey

[misty tree]

So what if i put my flapjacks on support fleet and had surface tigercats?

I may have foolishly +13 a tigercat

[fleet berry]

I haven't tested W15 that extensively, but that might work? Specifically because the +13 might has better surface damage

I've only tested Flapjack for surface and mixed purple Fw190 + Skyrocket for supports.

[storm heron]

I would just put flapjack on main and make some purple stuff for supports tbh

but +13 tigercats should do better against flapjack in terms of surface damage

[fleet berry]

I need to be reminded again: for support fleet, is the reload averaged? Ie if I'm running 9s + 11s planes, they will launch at 10s or each will launch separately at 9 and 11?

[storm heron]

should be separate launch

like whenever there's enemy aircraft, for every cv with interception ready, they will intercept

[fleet berry]

And then each plane is 'reloaded' separately?

[storm heron]

oh I think it's per CV

[fleet berry]

Right right.

So the overall reload is still averaged per CV then.

[storm heron]

yeah

just like main fleet

[sweet delta]

/wiki user:suchiguma/car

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suchiguma/Carriers

[sweet delta]

Main fleet interceptors also reload independently

[storm heron]

[fleet berry]

So it's really independent? So from your example, after the first launch of Flapjack and FW, the flapjack will be reloaded first, then the FW, etc etc?

[sweet delta]

Each plane in each slot reloads independently

[fleet berry]

Gotcha!

[storm heron]

so staggering planes are just better it seems

[fleet berry]

At least the purple FW and the skyrockets are cheap.

[fickle hollow]

I dont have the Yamato gun i missed it during the rerun event ,so would it be better to +13 the izumo gun on Musashi

[storm heron]

say flapjack is ready to launch
1 flapjack 0.5s 1 flapjack 0.5s 1 flapjack
will the cooldown for flapjacks starts after all flapjacks are launch

[sweet delta]

[misty tree]

So if Fritz has a Flapjack and a Skyrocket, theyll launch and reload independently?

[storm heron]

yeah all 8 of them are indep toward each other

[quartz jungle]

Either that or Daisen gun

Yamato gun is niche for syncing BBs with carriers

[fickle hollow]

i dont think i will be able to get Daisen gun as i am researching pr4 rn for Tenrai and Ap rockets so i guess i will +13 the izumo gun

[sweet delta]

All planes on one carrier jam each other, so the 8 planes can take up to 4.2s to fully launch. So if a plane stays in the air for 3-4s and reloads for 7.5s, there's basically always a plane from fritz in the air

[sweet delta]

Which is why forcibly staggering is a 🔮 in effectiveness

[storm heron]

[zinc turret]

Is there any way to fix dis ?

[calm rose]

Restart your game

[zinc turret]

ok i will try 👍

ok its works now after i restart the game , thanks

[zenith heron]

what is a good replacement for Plymouth by facing this month's Challenge Mode?

[hot lion]

Do i NEED any of the URs or do i just get shima?

[wind hazel]

shinano until max limit break

[dreamy blade]

she is, but nj isnt yet

[wind hazel]

oh im blind

im not used to p2w picture

[hot lion]

I mean aside from copies

[wind hazel]

nj until mlb>UVH>kron>shima

[hot lion]

Is there any UR that id as needed as shinano or should i just get smtn for the waifu part

[wind hazel]

need no.
but having UVH crossfleet is something nice to have

[zenith heron]

which triple 152 mm is better against light? the MLe 1930 or the DP Mk17?

[hot lion]

I see. Might go for NJ then. I keep getting shinanos all the time. I kust have pulled her 4 times

Now that i have normally returned to the game. If anyone can help me make 2 more general teams. Boss and mob fleet. Ideally i want Ayanami to fit in somewhere too

I heard Z52 is good too

And leveling Noshiro skills rn

Last time i played normally was on Shinano-NJ release so im not caught about on new units and dont know whats as good or worth peveling

[wind hazel]

1930 should be better but don't quote me 🏃🏼‍➡️

[storm heron]

crazy gun

[carmine heath]

Is avrora good or just faction tech?

[storm heron]

cl fp tech

faction tech for northern parliament I guess

[nimble knoll]

Nope

Also should I start building San Diego? Cuz I just got her from the New Comer Quests

[zenith heron]

if you finished this in order

Your Starter > Unicorn > Portland > Helena <> Sandy/Whatever you need

keep in mind, that Sandy is a UR Retrofit, so she needs a specific item to get her retrofit and is more expensive to retrofit like the usual

but I doubt you'd have enough specialized cores,

if you have, I even doubt you wanna waste 1/2 a UR bulin

because, do you really need her by now?

[nimble knoll]

If u mean retro, the only one I haven't is helena

And I have 4k cores

[zenith heron]

they're both subjective, considering she has one of the best buffs in the game, for at least a cheaper retro than Sandy, but its your choice

my opinion would be going helena first, bcs I doubt you need a Sandy Retrofit this early

[split gazelle]

My dock is getting full with duplicate blue ships, what should I do with those?

[worldly pewter]

technically we can't call using 2k cores on sandy a waste

it might be expensive or overpriced but not a waste overall

[nimble knoll]

Retire/ limit break

[worldly pewter]

limit break

[zenith heron]

well I wouldn't say as much bcs a possibility of saving some UR bulins, especially some predictions of a new UR this end of February, so its either the players choice, to spend half A UR bulin for Sandy Retro, or at least wait for a while

not saying Sandy is shit

[nimble knoll]

I mean with with half of a UR bulin, you can get sandy to retro and be a UR

And she would be definitely cheaper to Mlb than a UR

[worldly pewter]

dfgqsb had a progression where he retroes sandy as a first ship but also there are many factors to consider while doing this progression route

[zenith heron]

that is why I left it subjective to where your priorities is, a fully retrofitted Sandy this time or later...

[worldly pewter]

this is his reasoning behind it #gameplay-help message

[nimble knoll]

I mean I just got sandy so she's still lvl 1, and who would I replace with her? (If ima use her)

Cuz I might use Kaza To Replace retro Laffey, So I have retro Portland and regular helena left

[zenith heron]

so his reason is as long as it does not begin in within A UR event...

also saying that Unicorn needs more gears than her

[zenith heron]

also Ender somewhat contradicted if player has like 8 Gold Bulins first before the item, which is wild unless @nimble knoll here probably has some

[zenith heron]

in what content are you reasoning why replacing Laffey Retrofit for Kazagumo?

[frank pulsar]

prob drop helena first before laffey imho since helena is purely a bossing ship and doesnt do that well in campaign

[nimble knoll]

It's not Laffey 2 tho

[lavish dirge]

What is accidental retire protection?

[worldly pewter]

i m honestly not that good in these kind of speedrun any% topics but it worked for him in that specific scenario

[frank pulsar]

uh, i think its the thing that refers to needing a passcode before you can consume/retire a ur so you dont just accidentally get rid of them

[zenith heron]

yeah, I could see Kazagumo helping a lot in the later runs, but would your current fleet use a Kazagumo that much if your fleet has some good CVs? if so then your CVs/CVLs have a problem then

also sorry for typo

[slow fox]

I took it off because it wasn't up to the standards of eHP2 OR 3.

[worldly pewter]

didn't i tell u to do this

[nimble knoll]

I just need my Enty and Yt2 to get boosted

[zenith heron]

well for people like us who would do alts can save a lot and have emphasis on how to progress properly

but most new Shikikans might use their Gold UR bulins too fast on more/less prioritized and won't have a Sandy unless rng gives them well

[zenith heron]

for what content is this? Campaign? if so what Chapter?

[nimble knoll]

Well they aren't experiencing any problems, (unless OpSI but Meh)

[frank pulsar]

helena is only better than kaza in w13 anyway for campaign
just use kaza

[molten zinc]

is that call to arms or something

[nimble knoll]

Not campaign, but in events/OpSI

[frank pulsar]

oh if bossing definitely drop laffey instead of helena yea

[zenith heron]

for CV uses against bosses, Kazagumo for sure, since her buff is somewhat consistent

[frank pulsar]

ara has 100% uptime wdym

[viscid horizon]

How to make elite ships became super rare ship?

[zenith heron]

just said that bcs I might be misleading

[nimble knoll]

If they have retrofitting

[zenith heron]

those are ships who have Retrofits, only a handful of them have em

[thin nova]

I've spent 10k oil to farm aegir then realized her first exp mission need main fleet not vanguard

[viscid horizon]

Full retrofit?

[frank pulsar]

if the ship has a retrofit you finish it to get a skill and more stats
if the ship doesnt have a retrofit then you cant

[nimble knoll]

Until Modernization, Not really all, but do get all to boost the ship even more

[viscid horizon]

Isn't all ships except meta can be retrofited? So all ships can be upgrade it's grade?

[frank pulsar]

no, not all ships have a retrofit

[nimble knoll]

Nope, Not all of the ships have them

[viscid horizon]

Thanks

[celest tartan]

whats a good way of increasing overall fleet power

[crimson glacier]

nothing

[whole crypt]

using rubbish gold gear i.e. there's no point building for fleet power

[celest tartan]

big number go vroom

how exactly is fleet power calculated tho

[lavish dirge]

how can i find the updated support barrages png

[whole crypt]

raw ship stats, ship rarity, gear rarity, entirely useless metric in practice

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[cobalt rapids]

nowhere rn

[lavish dirge]

[cobalt rapids]

its not updated yet
ull find it in /crossfleet when it is but its lacking amagi fritz and z52

[thin nova]

is she good?

[cobalt rapids]

very good

[thin nova]

can she be a main healer?

[cobalt rapids]

for campaign, shes an off healer

[thin nova]

I saw her cant heal main fleet

[cobalt rapids]

she can heal main fleet

[thin nova]

oh MB

[cobalt rapids]

but she just loses in raw healing to unicorn and percy
but is great at complementing them in late campaigns like 14 and 15

[molten zinc]

and especially when Musashi exist in your fleet

[thin nova]

[lavish dirge]

Do you know which ones are the strongest for vanguard-main

[crimson glacier]

i mean you could just put aquila and uni on your mob fleet and you could keep them there literally for every stage

[cobalt rapids]

alsace and soyuz are the strongest for main when it comes to bossing
otherwise fritz when u need acv and its mostly light/med enemies
amagi when u need acv and otherwise other enemies
indep/percy for acv and buff/healing depending what u need
indep for cv when bossing
for vanguard idk where z52 ranks but shes only 5 battles so usually its unzen shima guam (guam intercept is better)
and for bossing just use all because theres only 4 and u have enough in opsi to fit

[neon patio]

How good is Shinano compared to other UR ships

[crimson glacier]

idk maybe 2nd or 3rd best carrier

[cobalt rapids]

among the top
when u have all the rainbow carriers then shes relegated to heavy

[thin nova]

it's crazy that Shinano still has place in the meta

after like 3 or 4 years?

[crimson glacier]

that what being a buffer with dps does to you

[neon patio]

🤯

[worldly pewter]

call to arms in japanese is called zenshousen and usually it is before the anniversary events
this one doesn't say so it is just some prep for something

[vale spindle]

nihongo jouzu desu ne

[whole crypt]

前哨戦 is before every major event not just anniv

[worldly pewter]

so aside from the annivesary events what are the other major events ?

the other 2 new URs ?

[storm heron]

I think soyuz has cta

[worldly pewter]

so the next is also expected to have a cta too

[crimson glacier]

isnt that for every major event

[slow fox]

wrong, Mutsuki Spring Festival did not have a cta

arguably biggest event

[storm heron]

[molten zinc]

[storm heron]

mutsuki doesn't even have 100% ehp

[dreamy blade]

bigger than heart linking harmony which gave us cyanidin?

[whole crypt]

all EX events then

[storm heron]

was there even cta for cyanidine and alizarine event?

[whole crypt]

muse events are SP events

[storm heron]

oh ok then no wonder couldn't find the cta in wiki

[sleek bolt]

Guys, what best & Highest DPS fleet to fight Taihoe Meta?

I have all ship except amagi CV & Unzen
I was thinking either full CV (shinano, implacable, amagi Cv, Hinden, kazu, helena)
Or full AP BB (Musashi, Vang, soyuz, hiden, z52, helena)

Is there better AP Fleet?
Or one of this already best Taihoe Meta AP Bossfight?

[worldly pewter]

in a line u said that u don't have amagi
and in the second line u are considering use her
it is kinda confusing

[rigid onyx]

Has the gear lab update been confirmed yet

[plain saffron]

Likely nope

Damn so slow internet

[viscid horizon]

Should I shortie some stage until my one fleet level 70+ or should I change the fleet member so more my ship likely has equal lvl?

[nimble knoll]

Keep using the same fleet

Also you should only have 1 fleet for now

[turbid dawn]

What is the best anti-light TB?

[wind hazel]

spearfish

[turbid dawn]

Even for single target?

[molten zinc]

not much better than other converging torpedo bomber tbh

[turbid dawn]

Will this fleet be fine for this weeks CM then do you think? Took 47s on easy so I think it should be good?

[wind hazel]

yes it will kill easily. but why not use kearsarge yk2

[crimson glacier]

well you could try it

[wind hazel]

i've tried with worse fleet and it killed 7min

[umbral bane]

what ship gone to be next on upcoming UR rerun in this year ?

[molten zinc]

no one know yet

[turbid dawn]

Because then I only have AVP for freeze, and her dmg is real bad

[crimson glacier]

wasnt it imp

[wind hazel]

implacable is next rerun

[molten zinc]

oh wait mb next rerun should be implacable

I thought he ask what is the next UR

[wind hazel]

trust me, you won't have issue lol

[turbid dawn]

At least Soyuz buffs the other 2 dmg wise

[umbral bane]

finally i missing implacable, thx

[turbid dawn]

How long did this take?

[wind hazel]

7:48

your fleet will be so much faster than this dogshit fleet i tested for someone

[turbid dawn]

4m36s kill, not too bad tbh. I'm actually quite impressed with Fritz damage too being able to keep up

[crimson glacier]

new ur being able to keep up in dmg?

[whole crypt]

newest UR with 8 fighter loadout obviously it's going to keep up for light

[torn latch]

Guys what is good comp to beat extreme Newcastle monthly challenge

[crimson glacier]

well theres one above you

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/february

[faint bobcat]

So, uh... any reason you pick one over the other?

[torn latch]

Ty

[crimson glacier]

shinano is the only good one from those

[native flame]

coz backline got more damage, but its all up to u

[torn latch]

Shinano is relevant for late game content with meta fleet, not Kron

[frank pulsar]

nano is the only relevant one out of the 5, the rest are either crept or not worth it

[faint bobcat]

It's only Shinano and Krond that I don't have ATM

[crimson glacier]

yes you sent a pic

[plain saffron]

this

[zenith heron]

Twin 406 SKC 34 or Twin 410 kai?

[quartz jungle]

406 SKC is slightly better

Latter is better for Musashi specifically

[tulip zenith]

What plane loadout should I use for haku 12-4 farming

I’m using same fleet for mob and boss

[sharp socket]

the standard loadout of fighter db tb works

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

[left cedar]

them proceed to use Bf109g/AD-1/Convergent TB

if mobbing, u wanna AoE, so bombs and paralel TBs
something like
Pancake/Helldiver/Barracudas

[zenith peak]

Are there any vanguard ships with a skill that helps bb/bcs reload faster ?

[left cedar]

top of my head, nope
no RLD buffs for Main ships

[zenith peak]

Mkay, thx

[left cedar]

What should i prioritize retroing or limitbreaking?

pretty sure i did answer that yesterday

#gameplay-help message

Oh alr ty

Im only at w9 tho

so keep focusing into progress till W12, lvling ur best ships or the fleet u are using, after that, u can work on ships for W13 or focusing into get Tech Stats and prepare urself to get better gears, ships and more resourcers to keep pushing

[vast sparrow]

Is FCR is must have on BBs in 14-3 and above?

[left cedar]

HPFCR is a must IF sync is needed, like boss batles or to sync for example with Helena ...

FCR have no skills like HPFCR or AFCT

[tulip zenith]

Close 😅

Just replace sky raider with tenrai, I figured my other ships can handle the mobs

[vast sparrow]

well god it's useless then since I only manual

[cobalt rapids]

its the opposite of useless even if u manual

[left cedar]

if u manuel, u still wanna HPFCR cuz Helena, she does proc with 16s and BBs shoot at 19s~ ... if u dont use it, she cant sync with them probally, exception if 0 RLD Tech, but u will lose the 4th salvo

[vast sparrow]

I don't put SG on Helena so it can be 20s ??

[left cedar]

so u are losing the 4th salvo and losing quite a high amout of dmg in METAs, Abyss and Arby/Harby

[vast sparrow]

Wait...

[woven star]

it's depend on his BBs gun cdr... ask him first I'm pretty sure he has near 20+ sec

[left cedar]

🌊
help them please, i have to go solve some chores in street

[woven star]

@vast sparrowwhat's you best BB gear? show it. Helena has 60% buff every 20 sec or it's shift on 4 sec first buff
no radar Helena - every 20 sec, 40, 60 sec buff for 10 sec
with radar - 16 sec, 36 sec, 56 sec buff

[left cedar]

aside of fleet itself
just make accounts, 21s - 15%... 19s~

[cobalt rapids]

20s guns will not 4 salvo in showdown on ur typical UR bbs without the reload bonus of hpfcr even at max rld tech and oath, barring some extreme fast cases like vanny
but then the rest of the bbs will not for sure

[eternal basalt]

Guess we know now what;'s coming the 13th

The following content will be updated after the next maintenance.
・Preparing for the Valentine's Day Campaign
・Adding new costumes
・Starting sales of ring packs```
UR 27

[woven star]

dam, not ready for rings sale

[vast sparrow]

I was about to test but here + my current all-round fleet