gameplay-help

[cobalt gate]

I forgot about drake

[stark quiver]

what the shite

[soft raft]

What is Eugen Muse doing there the fuc

[cobalt gate]

Where is San Diego

[quartz jungle]

Aurora lmao

[white agate]

i think in tier ex

[cobalt gate]

Oh thought that was all of ex

[white agate]

ex+

[viscid swift]

I mean

[white agate]

asuka and watarase?!

[viscid swift]

I really don't know

[stark quiver]

watarase shouldnt be there

[storm heron]

asuka tier EX?

[cobalt gate]

Witcha?

[viscid swift]

I don't know what their thought process was, I really don't

[stark quiver]

all of them have downsides

[cobalt gate]

Is witcha meta so high just based on there being qe meta fight?

[storm heron]

ofc asuka is better than kazagumo and ddgs

[stark quiver]

super high dps when abt to die

[viscid swift]

Wichita is fine

Brest however is

[stark quiver]

wtf

[white agate]

they slandered brest too

[slow fox]

Just making sure - Brest should be higher??

[viscid swift]

yeah, she whould at least be with the other CBs and Napoli

[mild sail]

Outside 3 of them being DD is the downside, what is Guam downside? Being a CB?

[left cedar]

and all that begins cuz MeBot like they eHP

[slow fox]

I just wanted an eHP review, fellas

[mild sail]

Evasion funky

[left cedar]

u start a debate that will take hours to get over

a bot start a war, funny

[slow fox]

I think it's your faults for clicking the other tabs, of course.

[stark quiver]

they all dont have utils that other ships have
theres no perfect ship

[white agate]

bulins

[left cedar]

Say Guam dont have a Utility its a HUGE joke
sinse she is tanker, buff others AA and have a great AA ...

[carmine heath]

Should I use ayanami or kazagumo?

[viscid swift]

not so much downsides as they think the best average performance across all conent should make them the best which is just...

[nimble knoll]

I have a question, Does HELP's Increase affinity gain also or nah?

[stark quiver]

i said they dont have utils that other ship have

i dont see guam having a eva debuff for light cl/dd

[dreamy blade]

help does nothing but save time, it gives everything that 2 runs does

[stark quiver]

i was talking about how they pushed the ships as "no downsides"

[viscid swift]

like, if this were a W15 tier list, sure I could see it

[mild sail]

You're just,....
Nitpicking

[viscid swift]

but it's not, this is taking into account W14, META showdowns, CMs, Harbiter, etc

[stark quiver]

hows that nitpicking

[eager mulch]

[cobalt gate]

@dreamy blade thanks guess it’ll be next year need Rodney

[eternal basalt]

Except 2 runs (war archives most affected)

[hollow trout]

I kind of forgot to ask but how fucked are guns and planes now, I don't think I ever managed to fully equip my ships like how have things changed in the past year.

[hollow gust]

Guam is basically one of the most complete CB, she doesnt have glaring weaknesses

[slow fox]

Her art

[nimble knoll]

Should I spend the 20k and the cubes now?

[dreamy blade]

her biggest downfall was releasing alongside laffii

[cobalt gate]

I mean get the bunny skin

[hollow gust]

guam AB is far better then agir for single bosses

[weary gust]

If you want. Do you have any other PRs being coined atm? If not I would just to claim free BPs daily if nothing else.

[left cedar]

iirc u dont reach W12 farmlands, so nope, not rn, just keep progressing and using ur coins to others things like Retrofits, enhance gears, Awakenings and so go on ...

[eternal basalt]

That's WORSE

[slow fox]

Armor break mentioned
-# opinion ignored

[hollow gust]

also yall hating smh, her bunny skin is fine

[nimble knoll]

Nop

[weary gust]

There haven't been any major major changes in basic gearing for years. Every so often a new better gear comes out for something but basics have stayed mostly the same.

[dreamy blade]

especially planes with the exception of la-9

[left cedar]

why i'm not impressed with Gray hating a KMS ship ... and i'm not gona take the bait and start to defend Agir ...

[hollow trout]

So washing machines and steam caltupts still good enough?

[cobalt gate]

It’s mostly just getting more rocket planes feels like

[hollow gust]

its not hating to point out the downsides of a ship?

[left cedar]

Rudders are the best avaliable survival gear for Cruisers
Gold Cata is the best AVI Stats aux for CVs ...
So yeah, both still works for this hulls

[cobalt gate]

Speaking of which where are we in real life historically regarding BB guns feels like been just using champagne gun for 3 years

[eternal basalt]

Best grindgear has been HVAR sincce... te last time we got HVAR

[safe hound]

i would only pair kazagumo with a cv centric backline

[hollow gust]

Agir is the tankiest ship, just not in contents with high aa and torp , which happens to be all of lategame campaign

[storm heron]

all BB uses champagne guns because the world shipbuilding guide tell them to craft it with protocores

[safe hound]

true but uvh/vanguard are pretty good for opsi crossfleet, also doesnt FDG need fs5 to negate the downsides?

[viscid swift]

uhh what

[eager mulch]

#history

[storm heron]

bro thought real life Battleship can turn into some girl with skates and riggings

[weary gust]

FdG fs5 isn't hard with coining.

[left cedar]

FdG FS just make her a bit more FP and offensive barrage, with NO extra bullets like UvH, in the End, both are quite similar with no much a diff

this is about they final DPS ... not they gimmicks

[slow fox]

She also gets more eHP

[safe hound]

welp i just finished mlb on FdG and now im focusing on coining hakuryuu

[left cedar]

she remains perfect as she are, but stronger, so no problem for me, but i'm still mad cuz she isnt the best ship in the game as i wanna her to be

[safe hound]

realistically i wont ever use FdG outside of maybe opsi

[weary gust]

Well yeah, BBs are super oversaturated with UR units.

[hollow gust]

UVH needs off flag to compete with the other UR BB, having to off flag frankly sucks in campaign. For single target meta having half your output desync hardly bodes well considering all the support buffs UR bbs output these days

[dreamy blade]

fdg's biggest thing was always being the most easily accessible UR BB, so if you have others her value falls off

[storm heron]

fdg 2nd strongest non ww15 bb

[safe hound]

i do still needa get alsace tho, rn im relying on bizwei to carry

[weary gust]

ww15

[white agate]

she is still super nice vs suicide boats in mob

[safe hound]

rerun sometime this year hopefully

[dreamy blade]

yes she carries me in w14 at the moment

[left cedar]

i trully like FdG, but i cant defend her into best UR BBs since Soyuz, Bis2 and Musa exist, and the french one

[slow fox]

FdG is perfect for your second mob fleet.

[left cedar]

and FdG in W15, hurst me to say that, but she is quite bad there

[hollow gust]

gotta realize every new UR BB has a skill that says the target takes 10% more DMG

[viscid swift]

yeah no, you'll be waiting until 2026 at least

[safe hound]

i just use her as one of the extra teams for hard arbiter, not bad in that role

[eager mulch]

[slow fox]

She's in my HE BB fleet, too.

[left cedar]

i did make a full fleet just for FdG and she cant compete with others URs BBs, specially in Heavy

[eager mulch]

FdG still good tho

[safe hound]

bruhh this is why i quit for a few years in the first place, its a waiting game 😭

but im chilling now so wtv

[viscid swift]

just be patient, Bismarck Zwei hasn't even rerun yet to give you an idea of how far down the queue she is

[safe hound]

yeah im chill just waiting for the new probable UR event on the 20th

[eager mulch]

UR on the 20th?

[left cedar]

here, a full fleet just for FdG and ... still cant beat 500k in Heavy
this month have a Med Harby ... so who knows, but as always the shield it will make my life a hell ... so idk if i gona try it
no gud place to test it in light where is supposly the best spot for her

[viscid swift]

seems a bit optmistic

[safe hound]

thats what i heard from multiple sources. reasoning is that its a pretty big update with new research equipment, including a new ur AA gun

[eager mulch]

Do you have proof?

[viscid swift]

that's precisely why I don't expect it to be then

[safe hound]

no proof hence i said probable

[hollow gust]

what happened to that bismarck damage

[eager mulch]

im told speculation is not allowed in gph or so im told

[left cedar]

not buffed by Ply, cuz she isnt Flag

[safe hound]

oh mb im new here

[hollow gust]

still shouldnt be that much lower though

[safe hound]

scrap wtv i said then

[left cedar]

when FdG Gets luck and she its buffed by several others, she hits quite hard, but thats is like 1 in 20

so yeah, some rare times FdG opens quite a diff betwen her and others, but its quite rare

[hollow gust]

is that the hoe meta?

[left cedar]

Maiho, yes

[hollow gust]

whats your gearing?

[keen sable]

sounds speculative

[left cedar]

just FdG ?

[hollow gust]

all

damaage numbas looking off

[weary gust]

Ply damage really low too

[nimble knoll]

Is Tenrai going to be in the gear lab? (Dunno if it's true or not but )

[hollow gust]

i wanna run it to make sure im not tweaking

also they did announce the new aa and stuff in feb

[eager mulch]

i guess i am ban

[soft raft]

yes
on the 20th

[forest palm]

yes it is

[nimble knoll]

So no need to get Tenrai prints?

[weary gust]

Still a free tenrai from cores. You'll be limited by materials in crafting them.

[storm heron]

maybe because fdg didn't buff no one but bismarck buff fdg

[hollow gust]

well if you are close mighy as wel ginish it

[keen sable]

you probably can't even make 1 gear lab tenrai

[left cedar]

but the point is FdG does a giga dmg, idc about any one there aside her

[storm heron]

but bz is iron blood

[left cedar]

i never liked Bis

[nimble knoll]

So I should buy Tenrai prints right?

[weary gust]

Eventually

[left cedar]

she makes part of KMS, ok, but she isnt even close to be one of my fav from there
none of my Bis are Oathed, and i have no plans to do

[hollow gust]

Bismarck is the best way to make fredrich do damage

[left cedar]

aside of FP Buff, she makes blackhole to FdG hits
the main problem is
Oath FdG desync in odd fires

and that makes her fires first and lose her mostly granted hits cuz slow time

[hollow gust]

Helena probably didn't proc well , but damn BBs are trash

[slow fox]

doesn't even use rudder on BBs
calls them trash
ok

[sharp socket]

that bzwei looks low for whatever jacked tech you have

[hollow gust]

helena didnt proc as often, thats fine

i need to fix my timings though

[left cedar]

a guy thinking i'm not trying my best for my FdG
funny

of course that is my best output, and the results as u see it, arent much a xpected for a UR BB buffed by 5 ships

[forest palm]

FdG is an old BB at this point, she performs below the average of top UR BBs

[quartz jungle]

FdG is buffed by Plymouth

[forest palm]

this is why FdG relegated to mobbing it's the only place where she's largely uncontested with Musashi being the only real competition because most other UR BB function better as ST BB

[hollow gust]

yeah my timing is fucked, need to fix some stuff, there is def a way to pull a 500k

[sharp socket]

BB can 1shot meta with high tech also

[left cedar]

my tech its pretty much full for BBs, aside Ally PRs BBs and French ships all other Techs for Bbs are farmed

[forest palm]

you can one shot anything with enough investment the game isn't hard by any means

[hollow gust]

with high tech, helena , crit fishing

[sharp socket]

except its a 13% or lower chance

[forest palm]

eventually we'll push enough RLD tech that 4 Strikes will become easier to do, they kind of are as is

[hollow gust]

Hmmm something is def fucked

[left cedar]

kinda doubt a bit on that, since real BBs are pretty much all in game

[sharp socket]

geo acc moment

[left cedar]

that also happens periodically ... u will get used to

[nimble knoll]

Should I buy more prototype weapon blueprint - series 3 for another Champygun or Tenrai Prints?

[forest palm]

KMS in AL has a lot of made up ships

[storm heron]

2 champagne max imo

[sharp socket]

BBs have alot of variance in damage because of alot of reasons

mainly shells landing in water and also other hitrate stuff

[hollow gust]

that vanguard gear is too conserative too btw

[forest palm]

also DDs not being able to use a FuMO when there's clearly one equipped on z23 is still the silliest shit ever

[left cedar]

but they will need to made up BBs for everyone ... since mostly of them are in game
like all 17 Soyuz ... like all canceled Iowa Class, All Yamatos ... and goes on

[sharp socket]

meanwhile CVs have (near) perfect geo acc and only hitrate calcs affect their damage

if eldridge only slow then many whiffs

[sharp socket]

just take whatever wows is smoking for new BBs

[left cedar]

still one H-39 hull remaining for KMS
like 5 or 6 Iowas
2 or 3 Yamatos
and something like 13 Soyuz ...
so lets see how they will do

idr for HMS, or RN specially RN cuz idr any project after Littorios

[weary gust]

I'll still never understand why people think the ships in anime girl alternate history game with future-past robots needs to have "real" ships.

[left cedar]

cuz they still follow that rule ... for IJN and KMS they do a bit off "reallity", but still a bit on it

SN ... somehow similar to IJN and KMS

[hollow gust]

Oooo got close

[sharp socket]

vanny damage is

[left cedar]

probally i can improve VG dmg and make a bit better dmg for Bis2 cuz 65 FP Aux gun etc ...
but the main thing for me its FdG 500k DMG not one shoot Maiho

[hollow gust]

Vanny damage is perfectly fine , people are way too use to cucking her damage for perfect sync

Either way my FdG isn't optimal timing since not oathed

[viscid swift]

a bit off topic but real ships are just more interesting because they have actual history too them

just look up something like the exploits of Taffy 3 vs Center Force at Samar and you'll know why every EU stan wants Johnston in game asap

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

it's what made a lot of KanColle designs interesting, and cool because it used bits of the actual ship

[keen sable]

there's no reason to buy tenrai bp unless it is enough to actually make one. unless you have no self restraint or something

[storm heron]

[tulip zenith]

Should I get drake or azuma

Ok

[forest palm]

basically the same pick a favorite

[viscid swift]

both are power crept and expensive to raise to
doesn't really matter which because you probably won't really use either

[forest palm]

I unironically still get more use out of Drake

[viscid swift]

I haven't used either in ages

[hollow gust]

That was easy , timing should be right?

[storm heron]

looks cool, how many scans does it take?

[hollow gust]

i think that was 3 lul

ran it for shits and giggles

[storm heron]

so 32%

[hollow gust]

soyuz is going to do slightly better, ofc it will never match CVs, not to mention that looks to be some support barrage starting already

[runic bluff]

how about the vanguards?

[hollow gust]

just run pure damage

[dreamy blade]

after backliners are done what augments (not unique) are good to craft?

[viscid swift]

well vanguards pretty much, just a few to cover what's needed

[dreamy blade]

yeah i meant are any more impactful than others between the hulltypes

[viscid swift]

not really

[weary gust]

The fp boosting one for FP DDs is relatively impactful compared to other types.

[forest palm]

eh...

just a bonus really, only thing I'd actual care about is the slash

[runic bluff]

free bullet sweep slash....I'll take it

[unreal star]

when developing a DR/PR ship, if you have combat data collection 1 and 2 unlocked, does the EXP rise on both simultaneously?

[runic bluff]

no

[unreal star]

kk ty

[runic bluff]

data collection 1 is the pre-requisite for data collection 2

[tulip zenith]

Where is hwah jah good?

[rain vine]

with retrofit, one of the best ships for w15 support fleet

[hollow gust]

Most of campaign , that retrofit makes her pretty amazing

[amber nebula]

I'm not even past w11 yet -,n,-

[runic bluff]

also +1 rld for all cv/cvl at lv120

[forest palm]

[tulip zenith]

What is support fleet

[eager mulch]

support fleets is uh, a W15 thing

where you put CVs or CVLs in to provide AA support

[weary gust]

Fighter support to be more specific.

[eager mulch]

fighter AA support

[tulip zenith]

I see

So you don’t actually use her in battle?

[weary gust]

They send out planes but the support carriers aren't there in the battle, ie, can't take damage.

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

[eager mulch]

can’t take damage from anything and can’t deal damage except to enemy planes

[hushed sorrel]

would you attack the boss with the support fleet or not attacking at all?

[weary gust]

The support fleet supports you in every battle.

If you mean the airstrike call-in from the map, it doesn't work on the boss iirc.

[hushed sorrel]

no i did not yet do any w15 but i think its pretty difficult. if one of the two fleets just do support. why does it work?

did i miss something?

[weary gust]

The support fleet is a third additional fleet consisting of only 3 CV/ls.

You still have two fleets that are full normal fleets like other worlds.

[hushed sorrel]

oh thank you. didnt know about a third fleet

do you have any recommentations for the ships and fighter? i could try 15-1

[hushed sorrel]

nice. thx

[keen sable]

layout of 15

[hushed sorrel]

14-4 is not yet at 3 stars thats the only reason i never clicked at 15-1 xP

good think that we talked about it, need some time to prepare that

[weary gust]

interesting 3* lethal comp

[eager mulch]

no amagi-chan

[sharp socket]

is doing one fleet only for 12-4 significantly harder with farming fleet on ooa

[viscid swift]

yes

[hushed sorrel]

if its possible i would like to gain some feedback about submarine as well. i just gave all my subarine 2 Type 93 Pure Oxygen Torpedo ... :) is that good?

[viscid swift]

because more likely than not you don't kill the boss fast enough and your vanguard folds

[sharp socket]

so like is avg 110 on everyone livable for boss ooa

[viscid swift]

kinda depends on which ships and how fast you kill the boss

[sharp socket]

guess ill do it when i have ships i want to 125 in the fleet

like fritz + aquila should carry it right

[viscid swift]

Like this vanguard is capable of surviving the 12-1 boss but only because I kill the boss in less than 30 seconds

[viscid swift]

maybe, kinda difficult to call

[sharp socket]

ah if that works then i can probably try something

[haughty dust]

finally development level 30 is she worth putting in operation siren now?

[viscid swift]

yes

[weary gust]

Dev 25 ply is usable in opsi.

[loud cedar]

The design plan drops from the boss nodes in Siren are just random right? Was wondering if it's just coincidence i've gotten basically all one type and none of what I was looking for across a few of the nodes.

[forest palm]

if you're crazy you can use her at Dev 15

[forest palm]

Siren Ops is random in terms of drops, there's no real dedicated loot tables

[loud cedar]

Rip, alrighty. Ty, shall keep praying then orz

[fluid umbra]

Is this a good fleet? I'm about to start leveling them

These are my subs

[sharp socket]

its the best with what you have

[forest palm]

[glossy granite]

How do you get pirate ships lol

[forest palm]

most of them are limited, depends on who you're looking for

[glossy granite]

Bruh they came out in october 2024 and i returned in december

I really had to miss Musashi and pirates before my comeback

How did i not notice this?

And i def dont deserve those 2nd anni ones lol, but you get more of these from events ye?

[weary gust]

The profile frames are generally earned by completing the event banner/mlbing the ships from them during the event.

Sometimes we get free ones, like anni or summer vacation. Some are challenge mode locked.

[glossy granite]

These are really cool ngl but you dont see them too much, def should collect more lol

That laffey one i have is really cute, also where do you see them?

In missions or do you randomly get them?

[keen sable]

chat

[glossy granite]

I meant the portraits, where can you look for them? Or do they just spawn in your collection from nowhere after you completed something during an event

[weary gust]

The profile frames are generally earned by completing the event banner/mlbing the ships from them during the event.
Sometimes we get free ones, like anni or summer vacation. Some are challenge mode locked.

[keen sable]

tap each one

[fluid umbra]

Is it worth investing into? Because last I was here I was told not to invest in subs until I've got the best ones

[forest palm]

realistically you're missing U-81, but as is those 3 should work

[hearty lake]

Question, do the war archives hard mode count for the newcomer mission for the pr xp packs?

[fluid umbra]

Aight good to know ty

[glossy granite]

How do you change the background menu? Or do you need skins on your secretaries?

[hardy skiff]

Was this intentional or am I missing something?

[forest palm]

believe the last 5 was from Raid Completion

so you'll never get them

[plain saffron]

The 5 is from server 0.00% rewards. But if you didn't do any fight before that happens you won't get it

Why? Ask dev

[forest palm]

not like the gear is unique, but it is tilting

[keen sable]

dw at least you didn't miss the missile...oh wait

anyways did you at least check your mail?

[hardy skiff]

Yeah I don't see anything, it's probably because I wasn't able to sortie before it reached 0%

[plain saffron]

Small Indie company pls understand

[elfin tapir]

hello im a new player, how many cubes is it recommended to save up before dumping them all in one event banner

[molten lance]

Is intrepid a good carrier just pulled her

[viscid swift]

doesn't quite work like that in AL

if you're starting out you'll want to save for certain events(read URs) and pull for them regardless of how many you have stockpiled

[viscid swift]

not really, pretty mediocre, AVI tech though

[molten lance]

Thx

[keen sable]

you need 400 cubes to guarantee spark a new UR but a normal goal would be to get all ships in which case you just want as many cubes as possible at all times

[elfin tapir]

when u say "certain events" are u referring to only new ones or also reruns

[elfin tapir]

hmmm i see

[viscid swift]

UR events so both new and reruns in that regard

[sweet delta]

Save cubes, don't build on heavy or special banner

[elfin tapir]

i got it now, i was under the impression u always wanted 400 but yeah, that sounds more efficient

[molten lance]

Just randomly got her but thx for the info

[elfin tapir]

bet

[stark quiver]

Damn 🍣

[storm heron]

[raven canyon]

what kind of gun should i use on te missile dd?

more specifically Tai Yuan

[storm heron]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd?ship=tai_yuan

[raven canyon]

also which is better? Chang or Tai

[storm heron]

the free one, fu shun, should be better

they are all almost sidegrades

[raven canyon]

kah i accidentally gave her a retirement plan

[storm heron]

what? you retired her?

[raven canyon]

yeah

[hollow trout]

Is there still no way to speed up leveling skills?

[storm heron]

well that's a big oof

[raven canyon]

sad

atleast chang and tai are cuter

[stark quiver]

not really

[storm heron]

holup

[raven canyon]

my dear 10 free daily skills leveling speed up

[hollow trout]

darn, shame it I really wish they added something given how many ships they tend to release

[hollow trout]

retrofit all of them is real answer

[storm heron]

not a good recommendation for newbs

1 ddg is all you need

[keen sable]

@hollow trout

[hollow trout]

New item?

or that special event quick train stuff

I see, also world 14 was it sub heavy or air heavy?

[storm heron]

sub heavy, though you need some burst anti air

also rammers and enemy BBs are definitely scarier than those two

[fickle hollow]

[stark quiver]

ok?
do you have a question?

[fickle hollow]

where can i farm them i need 15

[fickle hollow]

should i use the purple gun on Musashi against Light armor?

[viscid horizon]

did you guys know when new server will arrived?

[stark quiver]

no, it was random

[sharp socket]

is it normal if i cant clear this shop

cause i dont think i have enough time

[wind hazel]

you got pretty low commissions uptime...

[storm heron]

bro still got a month

[sharp socket]

oh its 3/5 not 2/5

[wind hazel]

i forgot the number but iirc it's around ~10hr daily to get all cubes or something, or was it to clear shop i dont remember

[sharp socket]

still i dont think i can get all cubes or itll be really close

[viscid horizon]

What date when server 'little enterprise' launched?

[storm heron]

u got 33 alr right, so 27 is possible

and the 6 * 300 diff = 1800 can be used to buy medals

[stark quiver]

near august 2023
i think

[sharp socket]

id like the medals so i can gamble requisition too but i doubt i can login more than i do now

[viscid swift]

It was definitely earlier than that

[storm heron]

or be 12% 24% more active and get exp packs and dorm food as well

[stark quiver]

def wasnt before end of summer

[stark quiver]

wtf

[viscid swift]

Nah, because I used it to get Zwei on my Lexington alt

[sharp socket]

i login once at like 8am and again at 8pm on weekdays and sometimes miss my morning login if i eat a normal breakfast

[viscid horizon]

There's was so many pro player there, I want play as newbie with other newbie

[stark quiver]

eh doesnt really matter, its a single player game

[sharp socket]

i also forget to farm while grinding wows

[wind hazel]

he wants to be pvp lord

[viscid swift]

How do we tell him

[stark quiver]

and playing with vets is good, you get more mfs who will do your metas for you

[quartz jungle]

Oh no wonder, that's like 6 hours of commissions on average

[safe hound]

Yeah you’re good I cleared in like 3 weeks and I’m not diligent on commissions

[sharp socket]

NA buff

[stark quiver]

ngl, pick washington, they have the best medal shop pool as of this month

[river junco]

Is Fu Po's Battleplan worth using over Repair Toolkit on Fu Shun Retro?

[stark quiver]

no

[storm heron]

agree tbh, being in asian just an immediate nerf

[safe hound]

Wdym lol

[vale spindle]

im like almost the exact same progress as you lol

[storm heron]

8 hours of sleeping, 2 hours of comission

[quartz jungle]

Nah cleared everything bar plates and oxycola as well

[safe hound]

Oh right you guys get the reset b4 sleep

[viscid swift]

Slow much

[safe hound]

Welp CN gets cheaper upgrades for gold gear so that’s another buff that global and JP don’t have, but it’s wtv

[wind hazel]

i realize im only a little behind jasmine lol

[slow fox]

I'm same progress as Celerio

[quartz jungle]

If you do your commissions fast enough you can also get 8 hour ones as well

[storm heron]

gets 6 hours of purple book

[safe hound]

yeah that's what i usually try to do but its not reliable

like its hard to control exactly when i get it

[storm heron]

plates

[stark quiver]

hi gph how good are gold ship comms

[safe hound]

its kinda weird that they get a buff (upgrading gold stuff costs less coins & plates) but ig its cuz CN made the game

[quartz jungle]

Just do them when you are going to sleep, it should last until then

[whole crypt]

you mean the super long comm that can drop ships? 🚮

[stark quiver]

damn bro, i used to always take those

[stark quiver]

same server that has lvl 100 non mlb cap

[storm heron]

true tbh but reaching 100% comission gonna be hard since it depends on rng if you can get the right 8 hour comission at the right time before sleep, otherwise you're stuck with 5h blue book 3h before you sleep

[stark quiver]

just dont sleep

[safe hound]

uhhh i dont think i've ever seen gold ones but i do the purple and blue ones whenever i see them just cuz they're rare

[whole crypt]

CN has a bunch of small quirks that are easier but lategame is the same shit

[stark quiver]

they arent exactly good

[safe hound]

yeah, just rare

[wind hazel]

they take your oil, and give nothing good in return, therefore they are bad

[whole crypt]

the ship drop is not 100% and the drop list is shit

[safe hound]

however whilst farming hellcats i got a ton of jewel comms which were nice

otherwise i like hoarding cubes so i just focus on cube and oil comms

[stark quiver]

gem comms are goated

[safe hound]

yeah i think i got 57 gems in one comm

[stark quiver]

from my experience the gem drop rate isnt exactly bad

[safe hound]

i'll take those

[quartz jungle]

Oil:exp+gold ratio is pretty decent, but they take a lot of time (purple and gold)

[stark quiver]

i think, ive gotten enough gems for +30 dock space
but it went into a ranger oath , so thats that

[whole crypt]

I may skip gem comms on opportunity cost

[wind hazel]

i never do commissions that give negative oil in return, other than cubes

[whole crypt]

like I'm not going to take a 2hour gem overnight if I have 4 8hr oil/cube comms

[stark quiver]

id just set an alarm for 2h

[wind hazel]

f2p always take the gem

[storm heron]

what is it, 400 oil vs 100 oil + some gems

[vale spindle]

hi i am

[wind hazel]

nah most of the time it's ~250 oil

[whole crypt]

chance of gems

and 2hr drops are dismal

[stark quiver]

is its more than 0% ill take it

[storm heron]

300 oil is worth like 16 gems worth in my cmd level

[wind hazel]

people that dont take gem are people without gem issues, just saying

[whole crypt]

fair

[stark quiver]

those people.......

[whole crypt]

I don't have issue even on my f2p sub so

[wind hazel]

normal people dont play multiple accounts

[whole crypt]

my main is just buy more

[safe hound]

i wish i was like that

[elfin hollow]

Should I take these?

[storm heron]

yes unless your tenrai prints are 0/50

whatever just take it

[stark quiver]

how much money does it take to oath 4 copies of each ship in game

[whole crypt]

well he's focusing pr4 even if it's 0 now it might not be 0 by the time he's done

700x600x4

rough ballpark

[safe hound]

I would take it cuz its only 30 mins, but if you really need the coins for something urgent then I wouldn't do it

[stark quiver]

how much is 600 gems again?
like 5d usd?

[quartz jungle]

10 USD

[vale spindle]

you probably will get some google play discounts along the way

[whole crypt]

well it'llbe around 200 boatloads of gems, give or take

[quartz jungle]

5 USD if buying first time

[storm heron]

the raw should be around 10 usd I guess

[stark quiver]

168k usd for no 2x bonus
that doesnt sound right

[vale spindle]

sounds right when its 4 copies of every ship and its a gacha game

[storm heron]

a year worth of salary

[whole crypt]

most people don't even oath every ship and you're asking 4x of that

[stark quiver]

damn

[whole crypt]

but yes the ballpark is 200 boatloads

I remember doing this math before

[stark quiver]

goodbye kidney, it was nice knowing you

[whole crypt]

what, you want to fleetpower leaderboard?

[stark quiver]

no, not really

[storm heron]

bro has golden kidney

[whole crypt]

should I add that hasn't factored in the 2800 dock space

[stark quiver]

anyways, just wondering how much itll theoretically cost to get max fleet pwr

[whole crypt]

250 boatloads, give or take 🙃

[stark quiver]

but research and meta ships exist, so theoretical max cant be possible

[whole crypt]

collabs don't add but some retrofits do and some don't

including dock space 200-250 boats

which is enough clue to say "don't"

it's also why I don't appreciate the fleetpower leaderboard - you're not fighting the content, you're fighting other players' wallets

[hoary relic]

what should i buy in core shop?

[whole crypt]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[hoary relic]

according to this, should i replace theseus with independence? im lacking of CV tbh

[storm heron]

I am sure independence is a cvl...

[wind hazel]

what does your fleet looks like

[hoary relic]

well both theseus and independence are cvl

[wind hazel]

you can use indep on bossing fleet

[storm heron]

guide user spotted

[hoary relic]

i dont have enty so i use theseus as replacement

[wind hazel]

you don't even need indep atm

you're probably still buying shells, no?

[whole crypt]

Theseus is fine Independence won't replace her, at least not before retrofit

[hoary relic]

just asking for advice before making any decisions

[wind hazel]

the advice is get 2-3 pair of shells first

[hoary relic]

ight bet

[whole crypt]

if you have enough shells and aren't looking to raise Independence start stocking chips/arrays

[wind hazel]

there's easily accessible CV like saratoga too

[hoary relic]

i dont have her but i have souryuu

[wind hazel]

you'll get her

[whole crypt]

she drops from 4-1 if you want an easy stage to farm for her, you also get a copy if you spend any money at all on the game

but not really a priority

[storm heron]

[pastel notch]

is there any fleet can clear 13 4 H in safe below 1 min

like 40s or so

My fleet with Mus-Klaudia-Amagi-guam-z52-shiman can clear on 1min consistently

[storm heron]

why do you need to fast clear a hard mode though

you're only be saving 1 minute each day

[pastel notch]

yeah but it 1 min

with 1 min i can do sth else

[quartz jungle]

You could try swapping Klaudia with Independence and swap Shimanto with Unzen

[pastel notch]

shimanto bc it require a cl

[storm heron]

[pastel notch]

and i dont think inde has enough damage

[storm heron]

klaudia has better damage?

[pastel notch]

she has more plane so ithink

[storm heron]

who has more planes

[quartz jungle]

Oh yeah, Watarase then

[pastel notch]

oh i just check

inde have more plane and support skill

[storm heron]

is there no yt videos of people clearing 13-4 hm under 1 minute?

[pastel notch]

but klaudia have some small barage to clear wave though

i havent check :)))

[dusk thunder]

Got a potentially dumb OpSi question. Im checking the "newer" files and I appear to be completely missing "File Y" Ive cleared the first stage thats supposed to be connected to it and I did not get the first file. I havent cleared any of the other nodes connected to it so I should have gotten the first file for the first clear of the month. Just wondering if anyone would have any info on why this may have occured. Because aside from File Y Im missing 4 in Tech and Life and a few of the Richard Files (file 11 from Richard Files IV and file 9 from Richard Archives I)

[boreal wagon]

im not sure which one u mean with file y cuz there afaics isnt one named that in game

in any case anything past cold war escalation is classified loggers (i think some came from story but idr, but they all aren't normal zones)

[dusk thunder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/rdntmu/opsi_file_locations/ File Y is the K marked maps. And thats what it says in this post. Thats why Im asking

[boreal wagon]

afaik that ones is called mystery of the cube in game
did you clear the actual K1?

[dusk thunder]

Mhm

I cleared it this month and its the only K marked map Ive cleared

[boreal wagon]

you can enter it again to see if you just havent picked up the file for some reason (select the zone -> change zone -> explorable)

but if it isn't there i cant tell you what happened really, but i've heard from some people the chance of them appearing isnt 100% after all just very high

[dusk thunder]

See I hadnt heard about the chance of the ones in the odd numbered maps not being 100% as each time so far Ive gotten it from the other odd numbered maps on the first run.

Went back and double checked K1 Explorable and there was no File

[boreal wagon]

yeah most people have said it is 100% and that is what i personally experienced too, but i have heard some people have similar experiences to what you are having

i wouldnt think too much about it tho, you can just try again next month idt you really did anything wrong if K1 shows as "secured"

[dusk thunder]

That is depressing lmao. I was gonna have to go back and redo the C maps anyway so doing the K maps wont change anything. But god thats annoying.

But yeah to confirm my K1 is secured.

[boreal wagon]

and just to confirm if you go to collection -> mystery of the cube shows 0/6?

[dusk thunder]

Ok so the name is actually Mystery of the Cube?

[boreal wagon]

thats what the wiki calls it and it lines up number wise

[dusk thunder]

If thats the case then Im 6/6 on that. Cause I was using this and it listed it as "File Y" and thats why I was so confused lol

[boreal wagon]

yeah file y doesnt exist in game at all
and thats probably a somewhat outdated list

[dusk thunder]

Oh yeah absolutely

[boreal wagon]

the name may have changed at some point tho, i dont know

[crimson glacier]

code g getting Ls as usual

[boreal wagon]

the image i sent has all the current file names

[dusk thunder]

Yeah Im gonna save that one. So I have it

[boreal wagon]

but that explains why you havent gotten it

[dusk thunder]

That would do it. What about the Richard Files and Richard Archives? Im assuming theyre from something else. Are they from the loggers you can buy from the exchange shop?

Cause Im missing 1 file from Richard Archives IV and Richard Archives I

[boreal wagon]

they should all be from the classified loggers yeah

[dusk thunder]

Ok cool. Cause I did still have 1 of those to pick up. So that Ill finish later.

[boreal wagon]

pretty much everything that shows past cold war escalation in game is classified loggers (or possibly story)

[dusk thunder]

But it appears Ill still be missing.... 9 files? Im at 142/157. I need 4 from Tech and Life (146). 1 from Richard Files I and 1 from Richard Archives IV (147 and 148) and there are still 9 unaccounted files. And consulting the wiki shows me nothing I dont have (but I do have 1 in my files that isnt on the wiki).

[boreal wagon]

if its past cold war escalation its likely from classified loggers (they give a few files)

[dusk thunder]

Oooh so it gives its own files on top of ones from the Richard File groups?

[boreal wagon]

its more so that all of the groups after cold war are just classified file groups and the loggers can give files from any of those groups based on what classified logger it is

like said there might be some that unlock from story but if you have chapter 5 of opsi done and defeated the arbs you shouldnt have to worry about that

[dusk thunder]

Yeah Ive been done with that for a few years. Im just finally sitting down and trying to get it all completed.

I still had 1 logger in the exchange shop. So Im gonna knock that out quick and see where that lands me.

Ok yeah buying that logger got me the last file collection I was missing which has 9 files. So that did it

[elfin hollow]

Does z52 need the rainbow anti air in gear lab? If not what should I equip her with

[tropic ridge]

its her best option however

can also use sextuple 40mm bofors

[dense briar]

Guys which is a better choice for DD in terms of boss fleet (campaign), i have a Retrofit Fu Shun/Allen/Tashkent/Kiev?

[tropic ridge]

do you have tashkents augment?

[dense briar]

Nope

[tropic ridge]

then probably your best bet being Allen

if you get her augment then Tashkent

[dense briar]

Alright thanks for the tip

[crimson glacier]

is there any reason why you want dd in particular

[tropic ridge]

real question tbf

[crimson glacier]

when i think of boss fleets i rarely think about dds

[tropic ridge]

usually only like torp dds or kazagumo for the avi buff

[worldly pewter]

DDs nowadays have several roles in the fleet
if u are looking for damage then go with fu shun

[dense briar]

Uhmm tbh with u idk, i always thought its staple to have this as a typical lineup for a vanguard a CA, a DD, And a CL? Have i been doing things wrong?

[crimson glacier]

there is nothing like that

[tropic ridge]

usually youd want ships that buff your backline ships for boss fleets specifically

or apply debuffs to the bosses

[crimson glacier]

you just want tank and then either supports or dps units

[dense briar]

Really

[tropic ridge]

yeah cause backline ships are your main source of damage and its not close

[dense briar]

Can u guys help me update my fleet then? I know i have a thread here somewhwre

[tropic ridge]

sure show your stuff and we can help

[dense briar]

Can i tag u for it?

[tropic ridge]

absolutely

[dense briar]

Okay wait a sec

[torn latch]

I play w14-4 mob with triple DD
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/630490362258915378.webp?size=48

[tropic ridge]

well mob aint boss is it

[viscid horizon]

Should I all in resources for SR ship? I have formidable, chien wu, and ticonderoga

[torn latch]

Triple DD in w14 boss should be doable as long you slap Eldridge on it

[dense briar]

U can ignore the name of the thread, its been like that since I was curious on which ships that i have would hypothetically work for a mobbing fleet

[worldly pewter]

u can still boss with a tripe DD but they are top tier ofc

[crimson glacier]

i dont get whats your point with this dd talk

[frank pulsar]

imho not worth

[torn latch]

I just want to refute this

[barren tapir]

point is you dont pick by hull type you pick by what the ship herself offers lol

[frank pulsar]

long story short, just ignore hull types and use whatever you need

[torn latch]

^

[barren tapir]

i will say tho triple dd vanguards sounds like a recipe for constant ramming, not sure i like that

[tropic ridge]

yes literally my point as well

[dense briar]

I have no qualms about that, Im fairly new to the game and just been following guides here and there and seeing what works as i go

[tropic ridge]

they usually dont offer much in boss content

[frank pulsar]

i replied to wrong guy mb

[dense briar]

And apparently it is not necessary to have a DD for a boss fleet, just found out about that right now

[crimson glacier]

DDS in general are just worse most of the time than cruisers

[verbal thistle]

Between Felix, Flandre or Hindenburg, who should I work on? I'd rather not work on PR7 yet cause I don't have that many BPs for them yet.

[fickle hollow]

How many prints do I need for dev 30 Hindenburg? 500?

[frank pulsar]

hindenburg is probably the only one out of the three relevant for you if youve reached pr6

[barren tapir]

work on pr7 regardless but otherwise, hindy ig

[verbal thistle]

Hmm.. If I'm working on 7, I'm guessing it's Nakh?

[barren tapir]

im like 99% sure it's 513

[inland shoal]

No it's clearly 5123

[barren tapir]

cos i remember fs5 is 728 and its multiple of 5 for sure between those

[verbal thistle]

If I were to work on PR7, what's the rec. order?

[tropic ridge]

honestly always get the PR ships first since the DR ones are harder to get that way you passively get DR prints

[inland shoal]

Well the rly good ships are Nyakhi, Napoli and Bayard

[verbal thistle]

Alright, I'll work on Bayard then. Thank you.

[fickle hollow]

513!!!??? For just dev30

ig I will build her slowly

Thanks guys

[frank pulsar]

itll take like 3-4 months gl

[tender girder]

wowwww. somebody actually uses Giulio Cesare META ???

[shell willow]

getting her 120 tech and dump, probably

[fleet berry]

BB +1 HIT is nice.

[silk sphinx]

Considering that a fairly common goal for old players is to 120 everyone…

[heady olive]

Hi guys, I have all the ship prints maxed out up to PR7 and I’ve cleared out main story, is there a recommended research priority? I’m sticking with PR7 atm for another rainbow plane but only because it’s neat, not sure if another generation has better gear on average.

[worldly pewter]

cv enjoyer pr7 bb enjoyer pr5 but if u have 4 ply guns i think it should be the max limit of being a bb enjoyer

[woven star]

question about µ-type ships: if I have original ship version and µ-aux then putting on origin this aux I convert her to µ ship with µ-version skills?

ofc if µ version present in a game

[inland shoal]

No

The aux just gives her the μ type additionally for skills of other ships that do sth with μ ships in the fleet

[plain saffron]

hi

[left cedar]

i got a bit more than 4 Champy Guns ... something like 30s, maybe more

also, gona be dead week between CNY and Brun rerun ?

[cobalt rapids]

not between, we get brun right after this thursday

[inland shoal]

Saving 7 cubes

[cobalt rapids]

saving 60

[forest palm]

+28 cubes

[faint bobcat]

So, on plane hell stages, is it normal for the plane to leak through, or have I not got enough AA/Intercept for them
(Talking about ch13 hard for example, the 3* air fleets)

[worldly pewter]

i cleared w15 without shooting a single plane in the giga cv node u should be fine

[forest palm]

are you having any actual issue clearing though?

[faint bobcat]

Mmm... sometimes.
Finally cleared (safe and 3*) 13-2 on hard, going to work on 13-3 tomorrow.
Its mostly I was wondering because the air nodes often max out the detection gauge on the CV's pretty quick, so they drop in damage after that yeah?

[forest palm]

leakage is bound to happen, it just depends on what you're using between ships, and gear, and the severity of the leak

[worldly pewter]

i can add the graphic performance too

[white agate]

also beware of having as much avi as you can since if you leek planes and you have only air parity...

[wind hazel]

ok

[forest palm]

[river delta]

chat which is better Huan Ch'ang or Giulio Cesare META

[soft raft]

Prob Huan Ch'ang but both are equally eh

[mystic heron]

how do i burn through coins fast?

[worldly cairn]

retrofit

[plain saffron]

limit break, awaken, upgrade gears

[forest palm]

• retrofit
• upgrade gear
• limit break
• awaken
• buying cat boxes
• resetting cat talents
• augments

[sharp socket]

go retro ships for collection, youll burn through coins real fast

[rapid grail]

huan chang, though i'd wait for devs to give upgrade that'll make her good

[tender lotus]

What to choose between Kitakaze champy or odin to fs5 by coin?
Champy still at d16
Odin & kita fs1
All other pr/dr are done including pr7

[inland shoal]

At that point it doesn't really matter anymore, just do them one after the other with coining in whatever order you want

[white agate]

choose the one with the better tech

[tame jungle]

(champagne ^)

[inland shoal]

For tech grind you just need dev0

[tame jungle]

sus

[forest palm]

no that's right

Any PR/DR that is actually going to see use needs Dev 30, however if you're just leveling then the Dev Level doesn't matter, much like other ships.

[nimble knoll]

Can I still get this in the event, even though I have no more bonus tickets and used up all my 15 tries? (Ik you can still do it even after you used everything up, but does it still drop?)

[keen sable]

Something useful. Research is a daily activity, awaken/limit break for tech, etc

[forest palm]

unique so slow

[keen sable]

Do you feel lucky?

[inland shoal]

Iirc yes just at very low rate. I really wouldn't farm just for that though if you're already done with milestones

[tame jungle]

you still got tomorrow though, right?

[nimble knoll]

Yes.. "All Or Nothing."

[nimble knoll]

Tomorrow is 2/5 which is the end of the event tho?

[ivory pawn]

You’ll also get them from research randomly, so there’s really no need to try to force them to drop from a mediocre node.

[tame jungle]

last day still counts

[nimble knoll]

Owh, then I might be able to get it

[forest palm]

there's 41 hrs left

also those can drop from research coms

[keen sable]

Nothing it is

[white agate]

yep, but still leveling a ship at 3 star without books( i did it so with uvh, but she is ur and at 4 star)

[forest palm]

talking to someone that's leveled over 80% of ships in the game...I know

in world 12 the leniency with which you can get away with certain things is fairly large

[spice phoenix]

what is the best w13 stage to farm?

[forest palm]

for?

[spice phoenix]

cog chips

[forest palm]

13-1

[spice phoenix]

thanks

[mild sail]

Wait what? Cog chip? 13 drop those?

[carmine heath]

what does being detected do to carrier dps?

[soft raft]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[turbid marsh]

yes, 1:1 13-1 is chip farm for those who don't need exp and A LOT OF TIME

[harsh gust]

W12, 13, 14 can all drop cog chips
dunno about w15, but I'd assume so

[soft raft]

Why would you 1:1 a oil cap map?

Esp one that has that many planes

[tame jungle]

technically higher efficiency
but it's also a massive pain in the ass

[harsh gust]

1:1 can go even lower than oil cap
tho I'm not sure how worth it either, it can't be that cheaper

[turbid marsh]

errr 13-1 has been the best cog chip farm 1:1 for like 3 years, highest eff, but really, only those who dont need exp and has a lot of time on their hands do it. dont recommend, but its there

[worldly pewter]

why does someone need to 1:1 when they want cog chips

[harsh gust]

the less oil you spend - the more fights you can do, the more drops you get

[worldly pewter]

the less exp u get which defeats this grind

[harsh gust]

that's why they specified if you don't care about exp

[hollow gust]

you don't need exp sometimes

[turbid marsh]

or maybe they finished their exp?

[worldly pewter]

sounds like 2y ↑ progression stage

[left cedar]

idk about 2y u lvled everyone ... seens like quite impossible to me ...

[turbid marsh]

more like 6 years

[tender girder]

Who should i get here? I imagine dupe z46 for tech points is not worth it

[crimson glacier]

only kaza is good from those

[ivory pawn]

Dupes to save on bulins for ships you were going to raise is fine. Kazagumo’s the important one, and you already have her, so it’s tech or just because.

[sharp socket]

if you lack french ships you get get one of the french DDs

[cobalt rapids]

triomphant for brest otherwise dupes if u plan to save on mlb but thats abit of a waste

[soft raft]

Allen isnt half bad
Mainly because she has high AA for a DD

[sharp socket]

malin has fp, triomphant has hit iirc?

[cobalt rapids]

both are fp, but malin is vichiya

[soft raft]

Allen is also DD FP Tech on obtain

[sharp socket]

ah both fp, vichiya doesnt count for french tech?

[cobalt rapids]

counts for vichiya

[dire flare]

is independence worth getting with core data

[sharp socket]

if you don't have a 4th good CV yes

even if you do shes still good to get

[dire flare]

in that case, who generally has higher priority to retrofit, independence or saratoga

[sharp socket]

id say indep

shes only good on retro anyway

non retro is bad

[haughty dust]

does Plymouth not have a fate simulation? I’m noticing it doesn’t go past death level 30 but then again I also can’t analyze the spare blueprints for her for some reason.

[stark quiver]

she doesnt

[turbid marsh]

too stronk for fate simulation

[soft raft]

currently Agir, the PR5-6 DRs and all of PR7 dont have Fate Sims

the PRs get theirs in like August
URs are on a way less consistent time frame much less order

cuz Drake got FS5 before FdG did

[haughty dust]

well, any idea why it’s not letting me analyze my remaining three spare blueprints? I tried and it does nothing.

[soft raft]

are you trying to do it in the research menu or in your inventory

[haughty dust]

Also, I’ll show my current operation siren fleets to figure out where Plymouth fits in them in just a few minutes, but I’m not at my current computer right now

[soft raft]

She'd go to the Triple BB fleet

[haughty dust]

give me just a moment and I’ll show you.

[hollow gust]

Any fleet with a BB as flag, Plymouth works

She's my mob tank rn

[frank trout]

im new to this game , can i ask why a lot of the ships have their skills locked

[hollow gust]

They have retrofits , that unlocks the skill

[haughty dust]

Never mind, I figured it out. I had uncheck whatever box was selected when I pulled it up in the depot.

[ivory pawn]

Lot of VG ships have an All Out Assault skill that are unlocked via limit breaking too.

[hollow gust]

It purposely saves enough for fate sim , you should never uncheck

[haughty dust]

Well, since you said Plymouth does not have a fate simulation was the only way I was able to analyze the remaining ones

[hollow gust]

She will eventually get one??????

[soft raft]

it's either a All out assualt skill that doesnt unlock until Limit Break 1 or they have skills that they obtain after retrofit

[hollow gust]

It lets you analyze surplus prints, if you unclick you are going into the fate sim pile

[frank trout]

some ships dont have retrofit and their skills are locked so ill just need to limit break?

[soft raft]

that would be their All Out Assualt skill yes

[torn latch]

Inb4 we will get Plymouth fate sim before agir

[soft raft]

lvl 1 unlocks at LB1 and lvl 2 ulocks at MLB

[frank trout]

is it only the first limit break or some need to do it until tier 3?

[hollow gust]

The system keeps enough for fate sim , and any more then that you can analyze without unchecking the button. You should almost NEVER touch that button

[soft raft]

first limit break
then the skill gets its only upgrade at MLB

[haughty dust]

This is current Op Si fleets btw and gear:

[frank trout]

ahh ok thx

[soft raft]

Plymouth would replace unzen

also why are your main tanks and off-tanks swapped around

[hollow gust]

And Alsace will be the one taking the buff

There is no way those sync

[haughty dust]

same gear?

[hollow gust]

Plymouth is a CL, she uses her own gun, good torps

[haughty dust]

not sure what you mean?

[hollow gust]

Laffey for medium harby is a recipe for dying in the 2nd strike

[soft raft]

The way the fleet builder is formatted is the same as in game
3 Off-tank
2 Middle
1 Tank

Currently you have it as
3 Tank
2 Middle
1 Off tank
Which in game would translate to the Off-tank being in the wrong spot

[worldly pewter]

yeah he made them as the result screen as it seems

[elfin hollow]

got this golden thingie but gut feeling says it's not good

[soft raft]

It is indeed shit

[haughty dust]

Pretty sure someone said formation does not matter in the fleet maker? Also I thought Plymouth's gun was the Twin 457? Is it not? I cannot select it in the fleet maker. Is it the Quadruple 152?

[elfin hollow]

off to the scrapper XD

[soft raft]

Twin 457 is a BB gun 💀
Yes her gun is the Quad 152

[haughty dust]

Well then what goes on Helena? Because that is where it is currently located

[hollow gust]

A good CL gun

[soft raft]

give her like a 155 Kai or somethin

[elfin hollow]

IIRC someone said this gun's good

[soft raft]

only if you lack better options

[haughty dust]

I have only 155 main not 155 Kai atm

[soft raft]

What about these two?

[haughty dust]

I do not believe so but let me double check

[elfin hollow]

damn those are not purple ones anymore I think I might stick to the tbsk one T_T

[hollow gust]

There is like half a dozen good CL guns

[vagrant steppe]

Im i doing something wrong or is this bug report?

[hollow gust]

That's a bug report , try restarting game first

[haughty dust]

Yeah looks like it to me too that is a bug

[ivory pawn]

It’s a common bug. It’ll fix itself either on restart or daily reset.

[haughty dust]

Any thoughts?

[soft raft]

you'll have to use the TBtsK then
or just go upgrade one of those spare 155s into the Kai version in gear lab if you can

[haughty dust]

I do not have the resources for that atm and which one is TBtsK?

[soft raft]

This thing

[haughty dust]

I need 3 T2 Ordinance Testing Reports to do so.

[hollow gust]

Just give Helena a 155 and that's enough

And don't analyze your Plymouth prints

[haughty dust]

I already did remember? Also then what about the rest of Plymouth's gear?

[hollow gust]

🤢

[haughty dust]

any thoughts?

[elfin hollow]

speaking of the 155

can helena use this or nah? I have the necessary materials to upgrade it to +7 beyond

[wind hazel]

no

[soft raft]

the gold version would be better
Im heavily biased against it being used for vanguards due to its bullet pattern but ig it's at least a better FP Stat stick than purple guns

[haughty dust]

Just taking a guess here. These are my thoughts so far but not sure.

[forest palm]

SGR on Helena

and that's fine

[hollow gust]

.

[haughty dust]

SGR? and what for both fleets since these are two versions of the same fleet

[forest palm]

recommending FuMO is weird...

[soft raft]

SG Radar
And there'd be literally no difference in the fleets besides the Main gun on the BBs

[forest palm]

if you're using HSFCR/AFCT you have to use SGR

[haughty dust]

I do not understand these abbreviations. Which weapons are those?

[hollow gust]

Plymouth is more then tanky enough , she can rank light and heavy arbiter main tank with Fumo

[haughty dust]

Fumo? English please?

[quartz jungle]

High Performance Fire Control Radar/Admiralty Fire Control Table

[quartz jungle]

It's called that because it isn't English

[hollow gust]

And that's offtank, she can run full offensive if she wants

[dreamy blade]

/wiki fumo

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/FuMO_25
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fumizuki
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fumiruiru
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fusou/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fusou
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fusou_META
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fusou/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fumizuki/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fumiruiru/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fusou/Gallery

Feb 4, 2025, 3:53 PM

[quartz jungle]

It's a German shorthand

[turbid marsh]

(fumo is actually not a short for something XD)

[haughty dust]

Not sure if I have one of those I have to check in a moment

[dreamy blade]

its from core data shop

[wind hazel]

you don't need it...

[hollow gust]

Either way run firepower if she survives , run defensive if she doesn't . She really doesn't care

[quartz jungle]

It is (Funkmess-Ortung) but not in AL

[elfin hollow]

I don't wanna sound nerd but it's supposed to mean "Radio-direction finder, active ranging"

[soft raft]

Not the marketable plushies? Cant belive I've been lied to this entire time smh

[woven star]

Why SGR for Helena? Any reason to use it for main fleet having more 20 sec cd

[soft raft]

Because the BBs have HSFCR/AFCT

so SG Radar is needed for Helena to maintain sync with them

[forest palm]

that's not 20 sec CDR, if you read the base FR you fail to calculate anything that manipulates FR like HSFCR, AFCT, and Skills

[woven star]

Ah OK, I forgot this 15%

[wind hazel]

holy

[haughty dust]

That is most but not all of the gear I have right now. There is a little bit more SSR gear but will only show if needed

[turbid marsh]

i think at this time, you should create a thread for equip help XD

[elfin hollow]

maaan, I feel poor XD

[haughty dust]

first image was an accident though.

[elfin hollow]

the best gear I got was the bad BB gun that I scrapped XD

the other was a gold 533 torp

[wind hazel]

not sure if anyone have told you this yet or not, but stop +11ing random gear

[hollow gust]

That's a lot of bloat

[quartz jungle]

Nah Wiki is wrong, it's just Radio-direction finder, there nothing in Funkmess-Ortung that means "active ranging"

[haughty dust]

I have not in ages. That was a long time ago.

[elfin hollow]

kinda Funky, the radar info is XD

ba-dum tsss

[soft raft]

Anyway this is stupid semantics arguing

[haughty dust]

This is what I have set so far in fleet builder. Still do not know where to go from here.

[soft raft]

I mean just go with the High performance rudder and a toolbox (For ply)

Not that much thought required for that

[elfin hollow]

holy shi-

is that purple gun really meta? my nelson had my only one, +8 tho

[wind hazel]

make it like this

[soft raft]

oh wait right I forgot about the HSFCR/AFCT
Yeah SG Radar instead of the Majuu for Helena

[pseudo hearth]

The Battleship gun? Yes, it's really good

[soft raft]

406 Mk6 is the 2nd best HE BB gun in the game
It's only beaten out directly by the 406 Mk7

[woven star]

Any reason to use HSFCR/AFCT for heavy/med target? Maybe ap shell or how it's call for crit

[soft raft]

AFCT/HSFCR gives more HIT Stat while the super heavy shell gives none

So AFCT/HSFCR + AP Shell = more HIT total
Which is generally more valued for boss fights than a fairly small amount of FP Boost (Compared to their already high default FP stat)

AFCT/HSFCR can also circumvent bosses that have shields that spawn in at 20s intervals

[woven star]

Thx, good reason for moving bosses buff timing

[pseudo hearth]

I'm almost finished out grinding XP for Brest, what Dev level does she need to be to be usable?

[hollow gust]

25 is enough

[sharp echo]

retrofit give tech point?

ok good xd

[pseudo hearth]

I'm trying to level up my IJN carrier backline (Nano, Amagi CV, and Haku), and I forgot what a good Mobbing load out for Carriers are. Suggestions?

[novel solstice]

Parallel tbs for mob fleets (wyverns if you have them, otherwise barracudas). Tenrais for the dbs. Any of the good fighters for fighters.

And steam catapults as the aux gear

[soft raft]

or just use Helldivers instead of Tenrais because W12 mobbing is not that difficult, esp on safe difficulty

[novel solstice]

Yeah.

[pseudo hearth]

Some of them have flex slots, so I might as well ask, of the 3 types of aircraft, which is usually the best to equip for mobbing?

[raven canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/akairo-azur-lane-akashi-blush-gif-16540352

[haughty dust]

wdym? Most of that was just grinding and luck

or actually probably about all of it

[raven canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242348095736512587/1312312156464742441/image0-5.gif

[forest palm]

#al-general

[haughty dust]

Still no clue what you are trying to indicate here

[stark quiver]

Just leave it be

[raven canyon]

yeah me neither i just dont know what to say

[soft raft]

then just dont say anything at all
instead of posting off-topic gifs/emotes

[raven canyon]

alright my bad

[elfin hollow]

chat is sandy worth replacing Z23?

I wanna boost up development for St. Louis

this is my current fleet

[soft raft]

If you arent at W9 yet, dont bother too much with research

also dont forget that you need to retrofit Z23 for rookie missions so dont bench her completely just yet

[elfin hollow]

aight copy copy

I'm like two nodes away from W9 but I'll make sure to retro them all before proceeding to the more specific needs

[pseudo hearth]

So is there any one that is better to use than the other?

[woven star]

Barracuda as more as u can. Only reason asynchron for mobing

[turbid dawn]

So I'm up two LA9 and 2 Ply guns, what is better to focus at this point, already have 3 tenrai

[viscid swift]

more La-9s

[turbid dawn]

Would it be better to +13 the 1 Skyraider or the 2nd LA9? Already have everything else at +13 that's important

[white agate]

wait, if flagship dies i lose the fight right?

my musashi flagship in boss battle hard 13-1 was a bad idea(i still won)

[woven star]

Do you have z52?

[viscid swift]

I would just wait until you need one or the other at +13

[woven star]

Musi+z52 good combo

[turbid dawn]

Well Implac is the last UR I'm missing so I've never used an anti-light CV coomp, that'll change one I finalyl get her ig

[woven star]

But I think you have more problems than that combo. Maybe low dps

[white agate]

i used it, i think z52 aa support is what saved my musa

[turbid marsh]

you mean flag support right?

[viscid swift]

you can put together a very competent light comp with Soyuz, Nahkimov, and Fritz already so

[woven star]

San Diego can help with aa. Z52 not very good with a lot of aircrafts

[turbid dawn]

I actually use that as my anti-med comp in OpSi right now, is it that good against light?

[viscid swift]

gear it properly yes

[white agate]

yeah, but i needed helena and i was tempted to go anco,helena,sandy and z52 in mob, but z52 inboss worked too

[turbid dawn]

The F6F hellcats are best anti-light fighters right? I only managed to farm 3 from the last event so I'd be missing the 4th

[viscid swift]

yes

[turbid dawn]

What is 2nd best then? German rockets?

[viscid swift]

La-9

but you also have a skyraider hopefully

[turbid dawn]

Only the 1 but that's all that's need for Nahk right?

[viscid swift]

her or Fritz but with it you'd only need 3 HVARs

[woven star]

I'm trying to use CVs for bossing they can hold some enemies aircrafts. Anyway I still on 12-4 hard. Too lazy to push farther. Musi good for mobing

[novel solstice]

If you are looking for gear for a specific ship, https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home has a list of ships, click on one and it will give suggested gear. READ THE DESCRIPTIONS. Gear is not one-size-fits-all, but is dependent on what content you are doing.

If you are looking for a general guide of what ships and gear to use because you are new, go over to the bot-spam channel and run the guide command; it will give you some general advice on what ships are easy to get and useful for new players.

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[slow fox]

How did you turn into ECTL's biggest hater

[eager mulch]

big hats

they’re downtiering me

[slow fox]

There there. As long as the downtier isn't literally 5 tiers, then it means nothing. Eugen T5

[glass basin]

is kearsarge + enty + yorktown 2 a valid opsi team? what other teams are kearsarge good in?

[stark quiver]

She only really fits in well into that team

[glass basin]

is there any better options for enty at the moment

she's an og ship and I assume there are better options now?

[inland shoal]

Enty is still a very good option for that fleet

[storm heron]

fritz is better, though nakhimov or implacable also work with better utility for fast enemies but with lower damage tradeoff

[glass basin]

Hm I can definitely try to use Rumey

[soft raft]

Yeah Enty is still pretty good for that fleet
esp with Yorktown 2's RLD buff for any Yorktown or Essex class carriers

[slender turtle]

Is there a super oil efficient way to get pr combat data, or is just doing the highest stage you can with that faction really the best way

[keen sable]

12+ is as efficient as it gets

[haughty dust]

My current submarine fleet and current gear is there any thoughts on finishing up the year on these until I can get some better torpedoes

[slender turtle]

Even if I have to drop a main fleet spot to use unicorn? Guess that math probably does check out

[keen sable]

snorkel pressure hull on everything unless you know what you are doing

[haughty dust]

gotcha if I don’t have enough resources to get a third one, then I’ll save up until I get a third one. Anything else? Also, if not mistaken, it looks like the one who’s lacking. The most is the third character. I posted there the one who doesn’t have her gear finished. Am I correct?

[keen sable]

If you're using L1 ships yes you need to carry with someone like Unicorn. But L100 should be okay on 12-1,2 and L110 should be okay on 12-4

[keen sable]

it's just more bidders and pressure hulls and 1 snorkel. if they have an aug use it but they were fine before augs. gun doesn't matter at all. you don't want them to be using their guns. best way to have them die and be useless

[haughty dust]

Give me a moment and I was able to get another snorkel but not able to max it. Here is current U-37 in just a few moments here. Got to screenshot it first

also, what are bidders again?

[eager mulch]

royal navy torp

[haughty dust]

SR or UR?

[eager mulch]

/wiki bidder

[rain vine]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Submarine-mounted_Mark_20S_"Bidder"_Torpedo

[haughty dust]

I Googled it. You mean the red tipped torpedo?

[keen sable]

yes the ones you already have on u-47

[haughty dust]

I also have one on U-96 but so far only one

I think once I get the gear better fleshed out. I might need some help on the submarine daily raids that I cannot auto and have to do manual because I am stuck on the really high level ones right now and cannot get past them

[civic oak]

Is there something special about the VIT-2 mode change prototype vs the VK-107 variant?

[soft raft]

Mode change is converging torps

[keen sable]

use as many oxytorps as you can

[civic oak]

Ok, yeah, that's significant.

[haughty dust]

oxytorps? @keen sable

[keen sable]

yes oxytorps give you more ammo in raid

[haughty dust]

still not sure which ones you are referring to

[ivory pawn]

Oxytorps are the auxiliary that give your subs more TRP.

[stark quiver]

Any oxytorp you have

[civic oak]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Type_93_Pure_Oxygen_Torpedo#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

[cobalt egret]

The auxiliary gear that boosts torp stat

Which is a torpedo but also not a torpedo

[civic oak]

It's not the only Aux that boosts trp.

[cobalt egret]

.

[keen sable]

also US triples are the best raid torp

[haughty dust]

How do you get those. I see those are not in crafting and will have to see if I have any

[keen sable]

core data

[haughty dust]

ok

[stark quiver]

Look a wiki

[civic oak]

It's not even the only aux that boosts trp that is a "torpedo that is not a torpedo".

[stark quiver]

Wiki tells you where to get stuff and whatnot

[ivory pawn]

Or just get the gold version from Sakura tech boxes.

[keen sable]

gold and purple work also especially unenhanced

you're just trying to get some more ammo

[civic oak]

On that note, does the magnetic torpedo aux provide ammo?

I never looked.

[keen sable]

can a sub even equip it?

[civic oak]

Oh. Good question.

[haughty dust]

I do not see that purple Torp in core data. Only the UR version of it

[cobalt egret]

That is correct. However there is no other torpedo not torpedo aux gear in the game called oxytorp besides the oxytorp line of oxytorp torpedoes

[keen sable]

gold and purple are from sakura boxes

[haughty dust]

Is UR version worth saving up for later down the line?

[keen sable]

the current meta uses 4 so...or even 6...

[stark quiver]

Maybe

[keen sable]

an expensive luxury for a one shot for sure but what to do with 140k core data

[haughty dust]

1 Think is 1.5k actually

[storm heron]

280 aux gold plate wait I mess up my math

[stark quiver]

Not like there’s a lotta stuff to use cd on anyways

[civic oak]

SS cannot, in fact, equip the magtorp.

So I guess that answers both questions about it.

@keen sable share some with me? XD

Aww.

[stark quiver]

Does 457 do more damage per shot compared to champy

[keen sable]

shot salvo or volley?

[stark quiver]

One volley

Third barrel diff?

[left cedar]

457 single bullet have a higher dmg, voley x volley they are about the same, problem its when 6 x 9 ... so the balance became a bit complicated to 457
wut can be a chance its 1 salvo more in favor to 457 ...

[keen sable]

maybe you'll find the geometry matters though

although champ isn't particularly inaccurate compared to some other stuff

[stark quiver]

Also between nakh and Fritz who does more med damage

[left cedar]

Rumy

8 La-9 are just hard to beat