gameplay-help

[stark quiver]

No way I have to run a fine tuned fleet

[cobalt rapids]

then u might like the final strat

[stark quiver]

Rainbow unga bunga

[turbid marsh]

i like that idea

[eternal moth]

Should be light right?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[stark quiver]

I can do the high end cv, but problem is zwei isn’t 200 aff

[cobalt rapids]

just get her to 200 aff smh

[eager mulch]

Is fritz on ectl?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[white agate]

should have loved her more smh

btw is it due to no oath? maybe there are other solutions?

[stark quiver]

I have oath
I don’t have oil to grind

[cobalt rapids]

theres always other solutions
but getting a ship to 200 aff you alr oathed is one of the easiest solutions

[stark quiver]

+0 autoloader

[white agate]

lowoil farm with her and get mvp plus dorm is the only thing i can think of

[cobalt rapids]

but anyway if ure copying the bb fleet just tune down soyuz autoloader if needed
actually not even

[white agate]

how?!

[stark quiver]

Oh yea lmao

Anyways
The affinity grind shall continue last week

[summer echo]

how to unlock Hakuryuu? i got 156 blueprints, same with Plumouth(255)
i dont know what to really do with them

[undone plover]

u need tech points to start their missions
then finish the missions

[summer echo]

are they hard to get?

[stark quiver]

No

[undone plover]

not really

[summer echo]

oo, how to get them quickly?

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[summer echo]

thanks

[undone plover]

well try and focus hakuryuu first
u can buy her BP with coin
so she will be dev30 much faster than plymouth

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[summer echo]

whats BP

[undone plover]

blueprints

[summer echo]

ohh

sorry im bad at abbreviations

[undone plover]

no worries

[summer echo]

thank you so much for the help man!

[weary gust]

Does a DDG do more damage than Shimakaze vs medium armor boss?

[undone plover]

if u dont have the points ready atm
u can try and get someone else while u get the points
for example anchorage is a very good option if u dont have her yet

[stark quiver]

How good is a 3 ddg backline

[forest palm]

DDGs have always been jank in the main fleet

[weary gust]

Normal 1000lb bombers still better vs heavy than LA9, right?

[cobalt rapids]

no lol

[weary gust]

So La9 or HVAR always for bossing, depending on armor type?

[cobalt rapids]

skyraider > hvar > else for light
la9>else on med
conv tb > tenrai at same enh > la9 on heavy bar timing but timing always important so yea

normal fighter can potentially be better than la9 if it helps ur cv fleet maintain conceal

[stark quiver]

How long does it take for zwei black hole to bring everything in center

[left cedar]

1s~

[cobalt rapids]

like 1s or so

[left cedar]

but somethings that are far from black hole are hard to be dragged to center

[stark quiver]

I see thx
so zweifires like 1.5s before implac

[cobalt rapids]

you cannot have timings that far spread apart

[sweet delta]

Watch a youtube video and count frames

[slow fox]

suchiperson spotted

[cobalt rapids]

also if implac timing matches bz its perf because she slows first during pull and freeze only happens after they are pulled

[sweet delta]

Can enemies be pulled while stun frozen?

[cobalt rapids]

they need to have spd > 0 iirc

[undone plover]

mebot I wanted to ask
in your ehp sheet ik u mentioned the enemy comp is a mix of avi/torp/shell dmg
which campaign is it closest to if u dont mind me asking? is it ch14?

[cobalt rapids]

they can be pulled through freeze/stun

[stark quiver]

Nice

[cobalt rapids]

as long as their spd is over 0 i think

[stark quiver]

So it’s gonna be implac zwei and else

The firing order

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty sure you don't need both imp and zwei

[stark quiver]

It’s a shame ca rld only goes up to 16

[floral thunder]

Two questions: Should I buy more dock slots and what changes should I make for my 2 fleets?

[weary gust]

Always spend f2p gems on dock slots.

Stop using not fully limit broken ships.

[eternal moth]

Gem priority is 3 dorm slots, 2nd floor, and then all dock slots. Although I went 4 dorm slots instead, and haven't had a problem yet on my alt

[weary gust]

Start leveling up Unicorn ASAP.

[eternal moth]

Being able to level 2 ships while keeping your mob fleet full on morale is really nice

[soft raft]

Yes
Also you look nowhere ready for a 2nd fleet right now

And you really look like you should go give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[eternal moth]

This is what I've managed to get as a F2P character who's beaten up to chapter 12

Hmm, only main-fleet tech I need is Taihou Meta, AA, and EVA. Dang, this is getting tougher to decide on.

[novel solstice]

After a certain point it's a lot easier to not worry about which tech each ship gives, and just say "ok, I'm leveling everything that gives tech". Then you don't have to think, you just press the button to do another set of 12-1 runs 🙂

[eternal moth]

12-1? Oh no, everything gets run in 12-4

Let's see how this does

Granted, having a full UR crossfleet is kinda cheating

[weary gust]

That's way overkill for 12-4. ~lvl 100avg ships that have no skills leveled and without crossfleets can still run 12-4 fine.

[eternal moth]

Yeah, I ran it with Okie, Tenn and Conte for a while

[silk sphinx]

yo finished avi/hit/rld already? grats

[white agate]

problem is that crossfleet can mess up your mvp

[eternal moth]

lol mvp

[weary gust]

mvp control is a trap

[white agate]

i want flagship mvp even if its bad in the long run
getting main max tech is confy

[eternal moth]

Why would I worry about who's MVP when I can just outfit everyone with the best gear and do more runs in the same amount of time?

[white agate]

oil, less oil to 120 one specific ship

[tame jungle]

hamaal i think you're failing to understand that someone may or may not value oil/time differently

[silk sphinx]

i mean with that high levels and skills mvp... z52 swill prob take mvp tbh

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but I'm trying to 120 EVERYONE. I guess if there's a specific ship you absolutely need to 120 for testing or something that's one thing, but most players aren't worried about that.

[floral thunder]

Are there better choices for any of my ships right now?

[silk sphinx]

even if you do mpv control, your fights take more time + it's only 4.5 to 5 exp shares for backline...

[soft raft]

Besides the URs (Which you should bench for the time being) and Hood, not really

give that link I sent a read if you havent already

[white agate]

mvp + flag + mood =3.6 exp

i forgot s clear
4.32

[tame jungle]

(you should be getting only S-rank when farming anyway so let's cross that one out)

[sweet delta]

If you're trying to level 120 EVERYONE then why are you not caring about vanguard mvp

[silk sphinx]

also youi level backline ships in general far faster

[eternal moth]

Because forget that noise

[white agate]

yep, that would be best in the long run, but i like my main more

[eternal moth]

WAY too much effort.

[sweet delta]

If you always give flagship MVP then you'll be done with main fleet like twice or thrice as fast as vanguard

[silk sphinx]

ask anyone here, you run out of main fleet ships to level far faster than vanguard

Like i have around 4/5 rows of backline ships to level... multiples of that for vanguard

[weary gust]

I have 0 backlines left to 120 and like 80 DDs alone still to go.

[white agate]

yep, that is why i say mvp vanguard is better in the long run, but i like more getting main in the short term

[silk sphinx]

ultimately this here is key,., you're only increasing exp gain for backline by around 11%

if you take into account the entire fleet you're gaining 8 shares of exp to 7.5 if flag takes mvp

[wary skiff]

are torpedo auxileries worth it on DDs like kiev?

[silk sphinx]

kind of pathetic difference if you have to gimp gear/clear rate/speed

[white agate]

damage aux are good if you are sure to survive

[soft raft]

DDs already have high TRP stat by default
Would be better to shore up their relatively low HP than TRP

[tame jungle]

if memory serves me correctly, kiev scales more off of gun damage anyway

[wary skiff]

i got a repair toolkit on her aand probs will put a fire extinguisher on her then

[tame jungle]

if you're pushing content, don't worry about firepower and just give her two survival auxiliaries (preferably HP)

[unreal wolf]

im a bit confused about sub equipment since i havent touched it in years before playing again? is it still get any gold or did things change?

[weary gust]

Red bidders generally best, purple depth hull and snorkel for most auxes, gun doesn't matter.

[unreal wolf]

this any good? im planning to use rainbow torp aux with this

[tame jungle]

is this even equippable to subs

[soft raft]

that is a #pvp aux for vanguard ships

[unreal wolf]

oh

[weary gust]

That's not for subs. This is the sub torp you want ideally. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Submarine-mounted_Mark_20S_"Bidder"_Torpedo#Type_0-0

[soft raft]

Nope lol

[eternal moth]

This is the typical setup. If the SS you're using wants something else, I'd recommend checking ECTL https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ss

[weary gust]

These work too: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Submarine-mounted_G7e_Acoustic_Homing_Torpedo#Type_3-0

[unreal wolf]

is it viable to mix it with the german magnetic torpedo?

[tame jungle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#ss_torpedo

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty sure you want to use EITHER bidders or the G7e, not a combination of both

Wait, Flasher wants G7e, not bidders? Hmm, I'll have to fix that

[unreal wolf]

im planning to use albacore i 26 and archerfish, so the magnetic goes for i 26 and red torps for albacore and im stumped on archerfish

[eternal moth]

Archerfish wants what I linked

[soft raft]

the fuck is I26 doing there
girl thinks she's on the team 💀

[unreal wolf]

got it thanks

[weary gust]

With that scuffed a sub fleet comp just use whatever torps you have at the moment.

[tame jungle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/SubReload give this a read, goes into detail on what you want

[eternal moth]

That said, i-26 really isn't that great. Get Cavalla or Nautilus if you can.

[stark quiver]

I use bidders cuz a full set looks nice

[unreal wolf]

i26 is my waifu and shell be my mainline torpedo team becouse of it

[tame jungle]

respect

[stark quiver]

[unreal wolf]

so the entire point of her getting magnetics is becouse albacore will be a flagship since she has skill barrages and does need to aim as much

if anything i might change archerfish to flasher becouse flasher is very cute

[tame jungle]

magnetics have better physical hitrate since they are... well... magnetic

[eternal moth]

Thanks, that helps.

[tame jungle]

so your effective damage will almost always be higher with magnetic torpedoes because of that (of course, if the boss is completely stationary there might be a case for nonmagnetics)

[toxic tartan]

What type of ship is best against her?

[stark quiver]

Ur spam

[eternal moth]

Any, but I found a CV fleet better. She's heavy armor

[weary gust]

Ships that do good damage to heavy armor.

[tame jungle]

she's heavy armor, so ships like the IJN CVs, torp spammers and the likes

[unreal wolf]

ill check on what im able to get atm from crafting etc but ill finalize the girls i like for the final build

[white cave]

Even though I added it instead of secretary, affinity does not increase?

[wary skiff]

how do you even check armor type lolk

[tame jungle]

1. only leftmost slot gives affinity
2. you have to be online in-game for it to actually give affinity

[eternal moth]

Based on this it looks like the whole fishpack wants G7E, is that right?

[tame jungle]

it's not like bidder's necessarily bad on them, it's just that fishpack easily reaches the reload requirement for the G7E to be better

[vale spindle]

it doesn't account for reload buffs to shpis

[white cave]

ohh there was prinz on the far left and I'm married to him

[vale spindle]

generally you do want g7e + snorkel, but archerfish specifically can bidder without snorkel

[soft raft]

mainly hulltype (tho a few exceptions exist)
or in the case of shipgirl bosses, you can check the wiki/in-game for the playable version's armor type

[vale spindle]

its wack and i don't like minmax since it hurts my brain so i just g7e everything

[eternal moth]

G7E has better magnetics than bidder too right?

[tame jungle]

larger homing range, higher turn rate and same speed iirc, so yes

[sweet delta]

G7e is not better than bidder because fishpack reaches some supposed "reload breakpoint"

What will the sub do with her g7e when the boss is out of range

[slow fox]

Currently, the mix does NOT include W14/W15. I can have it include it if you would like.

The values obtained by feeling it out with Suchiperson for literally 30 seconds.

[sweet delta]

why did you feel me out

[slow fox]

However, Suchi person claims no ownership of this distribution.

[tame jungle]

well yeah, when the DPS requires you to fire more often, the longer your subs "hold" their torps the more it hurts their damage output lol

which i'm assuming is also implied in the description on the ecgc equip guide

[sweet delta]

I'll just say that I'm confident that g7e is not better than bidder most of the time, even for flasher

[tame jungle]

based on the higher impact of being out of range?

[sweet delta]

Based on all of oxygen, reload, range, movement rng, and magnetism together

[kind needle]

uhh, what does fu shun retro do? kinda don't understand how she works

[sweet delta]

Damage

[kind needle]

does trying to get chien wu worth it or no?

[cobalt rapids]

no worth it unless for collection

[kind needle]

also, I skipped PRs, (Izumo, Ibuki, Neptune from PR1. Azuma and Kitakaze on PR2. Cheshire, Drake and Odin on PR3), should I go finish them after napoli? or isn't worth the time?

[silk sphinx]

really? i did not know about the online requirement

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur dock but rainbow docks only use for them is tech
ibuki might have a niche for fast clears

[silk sphinx]

meh tech, chinese ship

[sweet delta]

I did not know that either. How did I get two rows of ships to 90 affinity by logging in for 5 minutes per day on 5 days per month?

[tame jungle]

then i must be mistaken

mandela effect

[dense briar]

Is portland (retrofitted) better for boss fleet compared to san francisco?

[sweet delta]

The only way Portland is better is in cost

[cobalt rapids]

no, shes just cheaper

[sweet delta]

More like nagmi misinformation effect

[slow fox]

nagmi

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

does breguet have better intercept than wyvern

[cobalt rapids]

no

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

[wary skiff]

Do war archives eventually become farmable like hardmode where only the boss node spawns? 60 clears seems a lot for chapayev considering oil

[storm heron]

very very unlikely since some drop ships are not only expensive in comparison, but also chance-based instead of guaranteed

[undone plover]

sry was away . I was mostly interested in where the current ehp values are best applicable. As in which world map are the current mix values representative of?

[slow fox]

OpSi at best. Nothing Each other at worst.

heh

[undone plover]

I see thanks
idk how easy it is to run but it would be nice to have the top 10 or so tanks values for different maps like ch14 and ch15
but I understand if too much trouble

[slow fox]

That's easy. Do you agree with hypothesized bullet mixes though? That's what I'll be running the calcs on.

[undone plover]

since I am not sure what that is I will ask you the question 🫵
do you think it is useful? or is it magic numbers

[slow fox]

These values? Bullet type and mods?

[undone plover]

oh u mean that information is not available to data mine?

[slow fox]

I think that information IS available to datamine. I haven't combed through the mine though.

[boreal wagon]

(it is)

[undone plover]

sry mebot I am not following very well
I am not very good with the coding part
but is it a case of even knowing individual enemy stats u would have to manually mix a cocktail of enemies anyway? cuz if so then sure I am happy with theory since realistically there isnt a more representative sample u can get (I think)

[slow fox]

I'm not good with the coding part, either.

I'm also pretty sure you have a better idea of what W14/W15 feels like than I do. So I think your input on whether or not this mix is valid is better than my input.

Realistically, the better sample I can get is by mining W14/W15 lol.

[undone plover]

~~just mine it ~~

i mean if suchi agreed with the above table I am happy

[slow fox]

He it

[undone plover]

~~smh ~~

[little tree]

Me bot spotted

[soft raft]

War Archive maps are old events so no
only campaign hard mode works like that

[slow fox]

Holy VH

[soft raft]

[undone plover]

i thought VH would be bad cuz heavy takes more dmg from torp avi?

[lyric bison]

I just came back so are we gna get a new event right after this one?

[undone plover]

rerun of blucher event
new event prolly end of february (UR event)

[slow fox]

I can adjust these assumptions if you would like:

W15: 0.33/0.33/0.33 of AVI/TRP/FP

AVI: 0.8/0.9/1 of L/M/H damage
TRP: 0.8/1/1.2
FP: 1/0.8/0.7

[lyric bison]

Blucher ayt ima google that. Thanks for the info!

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Convergence
Aka the time EN got a SP event for Anniv

[slow fox]

W15 only

[undone plover]

wait can u explain the VH part mebot
i was actually curious why it is better on your ehp3 sheet as well
cuz we never use it

[slow fox]

Wait this might be misinformation I'm indexing wrong

[vale elk]

Hey i have bulins but I cant use them because i accidentally leveled them up what do I do

[undone plover]

tbh ignoring the VH parts this looks reasonable think (also agir better than I thought )

[lyric bison]

Thanks blaster

[soft raft]

set your limit break menu to show dupes/bullins that are higher than lvl 1

[undone plover]

toggle these on

[soft raft]

it's in the top right of the screen

[vale elk]

Thanks alot

[slow fox]

That looks better. Thank god.

The uhh W14 values were throwing it off.

I have it as 0.45/0.34/0.21 for some reason

Which means it deals 2x damage vs light as vs heavy

This is the source btw

[boreal wagon]

math

[sweet delta]

Who is kashais

[storm heron]

kaz

[slow fox]

I have no clue. But they said they have an eHP guy, so I trust him.

[dense briar]

I saw on slaimuda tierlist that An Shan is a Top Tier DD, got me thinking me if i should spend 1k to get her retrofit material in shop. Is she worth building as per the tier list?

[undone plover]

so doesnt this make heavy armor actually good?

[slow fox]

No. According to my W15 list just now, no. I think those W14 values are wrong.

[sweet delta]

No, because fushun is about as good, and fushun's retrofit item is free from the mini game

[dense briar]

Alright thank you

[undone plover]

this is too complicated for me
sry mebot

[slow fox]

This is W15 eHP.

[viscid swift]

hmmm

[undone plover]

ngl there is some sus names on that list
z43 higher than anchorage?

[viscid swift]

they confirmed Gear Lab updates will be every June and December which is interesting

[undone plover]

tbh makes more sense than current system we had

[slow fox]

Z43 sus there at all. She nominally 71% wth

[undone plover]

sth broke

[little tree]

~~ Me bot scamming us ~~

[slow fox]

found it

Supposed to be 0.9

[vernal flume]

Which to pick

Have none

[soft raft]

Check the pins for a brief overview of all those ships then decide from there

[little tree]

Will I still get points if go above 15 hard

[viscid swift]

yes

[undone plover]

~~laffey best tank ch15 ~~
anyway thanks mebot I bothered u enough

[storm heron]

fancy can tank better than guam

[soft raft]

/15runs

[odd root]

The first 15 runs you do each day give better rewards than normal. Once you hit 0/15, you can still fight, for the same number of contribution points, but the droprate of equipment blueprints is much lower. Your 15 runs reset each day, so you will get 15 more "drop-boosted" runs tomorrow. You can use challenge tickets to run "boosted" attempts when you run out of your daily amount.

[little tree]

Oh so it's just blueprints that's fine I need points for data packs to get ply gun

[bright tusk]

Is gear lab update next MT?

[soft raft]

Feb 20th

So most likely on the maint for Feb UR event or the CTA the week prior

[slow fox]

I'm almost 100% sure this was common knowledge :mutsuki:

[little tree]

Does hiden have fatesim yet ?

[storm heron]

soon ™️

[ivory pawn]

Unless Manjuu really like skipping over seasons for DR FS, you and I have different definitions of “soon”.

[slow fox]

They're the same definition, actually. It's the ™️ that matters.

[storm heron]

I mean drake got hers before fdg

[turbid marsh]

(barely changed anything, probably first dr to get ue)

[little tree]

~~ surly Hiden fatesim wont be +15 luck ~~

[storm heron]

+25 luck

[eager mulch]

ability to equip a ca main gun in the torp slot

[storm heron]

why are we thinking the same thing

[eager mulch]

amagi-chan brainrot

[zinc hornet]

should i prio 100 kai for sandy or something else? my only gear lab rainbows so far are 2 wyverns

[wintry rune]

What the best ship to replace my atago

[soft raft]

Where did your Portland go

[wintry rune]

My Portland?

[mint flint]

your portland

[soft raft]

Yes

[keen sable]

when did nagami say that though

[wintry rune]

Okay wait

[zinc hornet]

gear lab help pls

[keen sable]

inb4 keep atago, get rid of kwkz

[storm heron]

wasn't nagami doubting that to the point he decided to test it himself

is atago not as tanky as takao?

[weary gust]

Does it matter? They're both useless

[forest palm]

not useless just more expensive than they're worth

[storm heron]

they're like 1 bulin to getting a tank (hopefully) so I was just asking since I am pretty sure previously celerio was using takao for w14

[wintry rune]

Any advice for my 2nd fleet

[keen sable]

it's almost definitely not true but should be super easy for nagami to test. but there's a difference between only gain affinity when logged in and game not giving you the offline affnity.

[soft raft]

Are you at W9 yet?
If yes, sure you can consider it
If no, then perish the thought until you do get there

Your dock looks more like the latter

[keen sable]

dorm works the same way. you can't leave your ship in dorm and exercise and go away and them smash people on defense with L100 ship...five years later

[wintry rune]

World9?

[vernal flume]

Ty, just a minor question, they say taihou is only obtainable from this event, but practicality wise yat sen best, so it comes down to like more meta oriented or collection oriented play style?

[storm heron]

ya chapter 9

[keen sable]

it's not takao tuesday in that dock. atago is at least 2LB. that kawa is just bad. maybe there's even a second atago dupe hiding lower

[storm heron]

yea I was just asking, I didn't have ehp in me rn

[wintry rune]

Not yet

[wintry rune]

For my second fleet i had shinano

[keen sable]

very bad

only use mlb ships

[robust onyx]

I didn't even see a Unicorn either

[wintry rune]

I don't know because i played this game back 2020 sorry because i had no knowlage of this game

I know i still bad at this game

[robust onyx]

2 of the best new player characters to get are Portland and Unicorn

[storm heron]

how many gold bulin do you have

[wintry rune]

Around 3

I used all for my enterprise

[storm heron]

nagato enty unicorn z23 atago +either portland/helena
please read the guide

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[wintry rune]

This is my fleet

[keen sable]

@wintry rune

[storm heron]

there's just a lot of wrong things. Understand that you need only a fleet until you can farm more efficiently up there in chapter 9

[wintry rune]

Ohh

[wintry rune]

What is mlh ship

[robust onyx]

Max limit Break ie full stars

[wintry rune]

Ohh

[storm heron]

also if you want you can open a thread so we can review your options

[weary gust]

Fyi, left-most spot in vanguard is the tank spot. Middle in backline is where you want your BB.

[sweet delta]

Idk, he's the only one mentioning it. So I blame nubi Minaj after all then

[keen sable]

I found it from months ago

[inland juniper]

Are temporary stat buffs taken into account when shots/planes are fired, or when they make contact with an enemy? Like specifically for Scepters. If ship A without a scepter fires her planes, then ship B with a scepter fires instantly after, does ship A get the 20 Avi for that airstrike since it hasnt hit an enemy yet, or does it not apply since it was fired before?

[sweet delta]

Planes mostly take the buffs from the ship when they are launched. Shells and torpedoes take the buffs when they hit

That's why CVs like shoukaku and taihou have to launch first when in a synced triple CV boss fleet

[inland juniper]

Got it, thanks

[bright tusk]

is there any sheet that show list of ships with the highest AA dps?

[agile prism]

I know one

san diego

[slow fox]

Mebot AA list mentioned

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/edit?gid=1469188580#gid=1469188580

This isn't DPS, but damage per tick? cycle?

[turbid marsh]

there is also that end game tier list or something

[slow fox]

SUchilist

[eager mulch]

mebot what’s my eHP with a rudder

[humble echo]

i just started but am i only suppose to roll when a UR comes in a month? bc this one is bad and just save

[inland juniper]

In a boss fleet with 3 CVs (Haku / Shinano / Amagi CV), who should be flag? And should I use 1x Scept and 2x Bow or just 3x Scept?

[soft raft]

UR banners are always worth going for
As for SR events, varies case to case

In which in this case for the current banner, just do your daily light pull on it
Also give this a read if you havent already, lots of handy tips and etc
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[bright tusk]

who is the mininum to AA carry?

[soft raft]

Doesnt really matter
and I honestly just do scepter on all of my CVs, I barely give a shit about the skills on the purple Augments

[slow fox]

I actually can't answer this question. I only do numbers. Other people have said that you want at least 2500.

[atomic abyss]

Really it shd be the level of sandy no Kai no aug at bare minimum ig

[sweet delta]

Akashi slander

[turbid marsh]

i mean... does aa really matter THAT much outside of w15 and 13hm (argubly)

[atomic abyss]

God that's such a mouthful to say
Can we just call that vanilla sandy or sth

AA matters for w13 and w15

W13 with meh AA usually sees you having issues by the time you hit 13-3

[sweet delta]

Don't care about "AA carry," whatever that means. Use good ships, and include ships with good AA

[atomic abyss]

As for w14, I suppose it's w12 levels of AA?

[dreamy blade]

for w14 is it better to do sushi mob+fdg boss? or other way around

[sweet delta]

Doesn't matter, but if you don't have specific pairings, maybe use fdg mob

[atomic abyss]

FdG does pretty well on mob in 14 anyways

[dreamy blade]

what would specific pairings be, like aquila for sushi? (dont have her)

[queen jackal]

is w14 harder than w13h

[sweet delta]

Or if Musashi could be shinano's third IJN

[dreamy blade]

ah yeah dont have her either my only other URs are amagi and fritz (and a dev25 plymouth i guess)

[atomic abyss]

Different beasts
13H is highly dependent on your AA capability and carriers
14 is dependent on your ASW, anti suicide boat and anti BB

I'd say 13-4H in particular is harder than 14
The rest of 13H isn't that remarkably hard

[slow fox]

Where on the AA list do you call "good AA"

[dusty gulch]

What's up with none of the shops selling PR7 prints? Guild shop still selling PR1 prints and I only see PR6 prints in medal shop. The wiki site says S7 prints in medal shop but I just see S6.

[sharp socket]

air parity on 13-4h with 1bb 2cv is

[eternal moth]

General BP are the ship prints right?

[atomic abyss]

I've seen guild shop with up to series 3 or 4 prints

[sweet delta]

Let good AA mean your main fleet (usually) doesn't die to planes

[eternal moth]

There was never an update to guild shop for prints as far as I know. Just use them for either free development or more protocores

[dreamy blade]

guild shop prints pretty negligible either way, they rarely appear and when they do you get like 2 prints only iirc?

[eternal moth]

I think it's just 1

[slow fox]

On W15, what does that look like?

[queen jackal]

yeah ik they are basically separate requirements, was more asking for the average player which would they most likely be ready for first

[sharp socket]

i did both about the same time

[dusty gulch]

@eternal moth where'd you pull that from?

[eternal moth]

Patch notes

[sharp socket]

though i only did 13-1h for the 30 core data per hard

[dreamy blade]

well you kindof completely ignore that ASW exists until prepping for ch14, whereas starting from ch11 you have to start shoring up your AA so theres that

[eternal moth]

#game-news message

[atomic abyss]

It really depends on the ships you have tbh
W14 is more punishing if you lack 2 strong BBs with strong gear
W13 is more punishing if you lack 5 CV/Ls with strong gear

And what ships you have largely depends on when you "joined the game"

[sharp socket]

i don't remember anything about planes being difficult during my beginner stage but i had monty to cover if there were

[atomic abyss]

Someone who joined in say the last 6 months is gonna have loads of UR CVs but no UR BBs outside FdG and Musashi

[eternal moth]

Yup. If I'd started my alt a month earlier, for example, I would have started the game with Musashi, which could have made this easy-mode. Although Fritz has been pretty damn strong as well

[atomic abyss]

Someone who is attempting those maps in Sep after starting in say Feb 2024 would have many UR BBs (Soyuz, Alsace, Vanguard) but lack UR CVs (Amagi in Sep)

So really it's another case of "itdependencitis"

[eternal moth]

That's also assuming they stayed active as well.

[atomic abyss]

If you were to exclude gacha URs entirely for the occasion, w14 would probably be easier

Because it's easier to gear BBs

[sharp socket]

did i do w14 in sep i don't remember

[dreamy blade]

also dont have to deal with the fleet/stat requirements like in 13h

[atomic abyss]

And FdG is incredibly good for w14

But then again, what SRs you have may also impact how well you clear

Like say there was Volga banner in April last year

Aquila got archived before Amagi so there's a chance to get her in the many special builds since then

[eternal moth]

I'd say one of the single best QOL change happened in the last maint, when Kaza was added to the medal shop. That's a super-important ship for late-game OpSi and META fights being added essentially for free.

[atomic abyss]

Ultimately I feel 14 is easier to clear because you're more likely to have better BB gear

[atomic abyss]

Also this

[grizzled sundial]

When they add rainbow SE bomber to gear lab , should i still stick to Pr4 research focus ?

[atomic abyss]

Well the truth is, it's kinda hard to say

On one hand, yes your PR4 gear and ships are not easily accessible without research

On the other hand, it's gonna be pretty costly from a gear lab or protocore perspective

I'd personally move to 5 if I'm nowhere near the next tenrai

If I'm very close, finish that last tenrai first

[viscid swift]

Tenrai won't be added for another month still

CN confirmed the Gear Lab update wouldn't be until February 20th

along with revealing all the Gear being added which includes the Tenrai

and the next new piece of UR gear is another AA gun

[keen sable]

dw no power creep because lr

[eternal moth]

lr?

[atomic abyss]

Idk to be glad cos I haven't crafted any 57mm

[keen sable]

long range

[wary skiff]

Kazagumo? I have like 3 DDs being kiev, jintsu and z46, would it be better to prioritize that one

[atomic abyss]

Jintsuu is a CL not a DD

[wary skiff]

Keep forgetting that

[atomic abyss]

But yes Kazagumo is very high priority for mid/late game AL

[eternal moth]

She's the best ARA ship at the moment, but isn't really necessary until you're making OpSi/META fleets

[wary skiff]

Ok I’ll get her next I got u-96 last time and I think it woulda been better if I got a main fleet or vanguard ship instead lol

[atomic abyss]

Good torp stat stick too

[eternal moth]

They're in completely different categories from main fleet ships. Whether she's available or not will depend on your server; you need to have DDs for sale

[wary skiff]

I just cleared opsci for the first time and I only got one decent fleet so I’ll add her into it

[eternal moth]

I bought Z46 right before they announced she was moving to medals -.-

[keen sable]

i drank the kaza 14 kool aid

[wary skiff]

Oh wait ur right I think it was z46 then and I hardly used her since dds were so fragile without ok gear

[eternal moth]

Just like everything else, it depends on the ship. Z46 isn't that fragile, though, and does pretty significant damage

[dreamy blade]

i bought le malin for tech bc i didnt know medal shop got updated in january

[storm heron]

got scammed

[wary skiff]

What DDG would be most worth to retrofit and put the guided missile on overall? I only wanna focus on one, I broke them all down and don’t wanna spend too many cubes

[dreamy blade]

fu shun bc her retrofit item was given to you for free

[storm heron]

fu shun from event

/ddgpriority

look at the decision chart above

[eternal moth]

What chart?

[wary skiff]

Ooo thanks, I tried searching for it in pins / oh ok it’s telling me to screw off immediately lmao

[eternal moth]

DId you not get the missile from the raid?

[wary skiff]

I got the missile but I do not have extra core data, I just bought a heavy shell for odin today and the type 1 was going to be my next core data purchase with the 700 core data from the raid

[storm heron]

how impactful are ddgs with poverty guns

[atomic abyss]

Still better than most DDs
But will lose out to the really good ones
Ignoring the URs, Tashkent is a notable example

[dreamy blade]

yes if you havent made the important core data purchases yet then the ddg aux is very low prio

[atomic abyss]

Since Tashkent relies on her skill to reach her high DPS

Also to be clear, DDGs are reliant both on the guns and their missile

Much like say enty, they are noticeably buffed by their bis gear

I'm fairly sure sandy kai w/ aug would beat them too if they're on poverty gear

[wary skiff]

im only a few weeks in so im guessing this will be a side thing thats months away right

[bright tusk]

is z52 surface damage come from her red bullets from skill?

[dreamy blade]

mostly from her barrage yes

[atomic abyss]

The large majority of it comes from her skill barrage and her AoA barrage

That's not to say her gun DPS is bad ofc

It's just her barrage DPS is even better

[soft dagger]

with heclp, when rng drops are "rolled twice," does this mean you get two separate rolls for each potential drop, or just one roll times 2?

[atomic abyss]

2 separate rolls

[dreamy blade]

yes you will want at least 2 of each shell + independence before considering the ddg aux, although im not sure how good/bad they are without it

[eternal moth]

I'd argue that depending on your progression path Indep may not be required, but I'd probably still recommend the 2 sets of shells first.

[frank pulsar]

whys cc so low? is fu shun better than her when paired with an shan or smth

[sweet delta]

Because the default is not to pair DDGs, and changchun is the weakest DDG unless you have like soyuz and some other DE

[frank pulsar]

makes sense

[wary skiff]

Thanks for the idea, didn’t know of independence. Do retrofits always stay 5 stars? My uni did

[frank pulsar]

retrofit doesnt change max star count
not that it matters anyway

[wary skiff]

ok nice. I was kinda bugged feeling like I was using a unit that’s missing a limit break level

[storm heron]

most of the time you just see empty stars easier

[frank pulsar]

my stars disappear

[storm heron]

yea that's the exception

[wary skiff]

I think I know what ur talking about, I’ve seen my odin fall down to 5 stars and I was like wtf

UI bug or something

[soft raft]

common desync moment
just force close and relaunch the game if it happens

[wary skiff]

Yep that fixed it for me

[sweet delta]

Not a network desync

Scrolling down and up fixes it for me

[wary skiff]

That didn’t for me nor refreshing the screens

[storm heron]

what are list of known bugs, tapping comission too fast, comission not refreshing,

[wary skiff]

But it’s whatever it’s just a visual bug

[sweet delta]

#known-bugs

[dreamy blade]

displayed morale

[frank pulsar]

my homescreen ui straight up broke a few times

[sweet delta]

#bug-reports

[wary skiff]

The cattery one was making me insane since it had a red exclamation mark to take care of the cats or whatever and it wouldn’t let me so the mark stayed there all day until refresh

[storm heron]

are desyncs bug?

[storm heron]

you probably just have an empty slot

[wary skiff]

Nope, it came after getting the third slot and filling it

It had the icons to feed the cats and wouldn’t let me lol

[agile harness]

How hard is the stage 14 compared with the stage 13?

[stark quiver]

a pretty difficult increase if you dont have correct setups

[agile harness]

Um, what kind of ships are need in stage 14

[sweet delta]

Good ships and 1 or 2 BBs per fleet

[stark quiver]

depends what you have
usualy ships with good dps and survivability

[tulip zenith]

What would be a good dragon empery vanguard for 12-4 I’m tryna get harbin

[stark quiver]

anyone here

[sweet delta]

Anything you want to level. If they fail, then go to 12-2 instead

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

Are all the ddgs about equal

[atomic abyss]

More or less
Unless you intent to push for OHKOs or sth
In which there is a slight difference

[humble echo]

should i use chien wu or portland

[stark quiver]

are you new?
probably portland

[humble echo]

yes im new

[stark quiver]

then portland

[rapid grail]

portland
then later on once you have leveled portland and need another tank, you may raise her if you aren't looking for PR bote options like Roon, Saint Louis and Anchorage

[sweet delta]

Use Chien Wu, you have 4 spare gold bulins and can get more for enterprise later

[storm heron]

is oceana and navigator the same?

[vale spindle]

yesnt
believe one refers to enemy and one to allied or smth

but also jp name is literally navigator so imma just go with that

[sleek spade]

hey guys who is the best out of the DDGs

Im considering who should have the SY-1A and normal SY-1s

[tulip zenith]

K thx

[sweet delta]

Give 1A to the one you use the most in hard content

[thin vapor]

Where to use the " Empery knot " items please ?

[keen sable]

the spring invitation. you get way more than you need

[thin vapor]

I got 2000 , it doesnt make sense , but ok , thanks !

[keen sable]

it's so you can get it without doing something you don't want to do

[thin vapor]

They wanted to be SURE everybody got it lol

[agile harness]

how i can fix this when i try to download the game in memu nebula

[eternal moth]

Sounds like a web-based emulator. You may need to download the real version to play

[agile harness]

but theres a good low end emulator for pc, since bluestacks and memu lags a lot

[eternal moth]

Try clearing cache and then re-downloading then. If not you probably need a native emulator

[agile harness]

i mean

im not using this emulator in browser

[eternal moth]

The fact that one of the high points of the emulator is that it supports Android 7, I'm going to say it probably won't work.

[agile harness]

[eternal moth]

Then again, it does list Azur Lane as working, so ask in #tech-support

[sullen dew]

Question: how does one ensure that their flagship, in a fleet with 3 BB's, is the one that fires the first salvo when all 3 have their salvoes loaded?

[eternal moth]

Generally it doesn't matter, but who are you trying to make shoot first, and what's your fleet?

There are ways to adjust timings if needed, but it's going to depend on what you're fighting as well.

[forest palm]

If all BBs had their Salvos primed it starts with Flag always fires first, then its either top or bottom that fires next I honestly forget

[eternal moth]

It should be flag, top, bottom

[sullen dew]

Weird. I was trying out a fleet with Bismarck Zwei as the flagship, and Georgia for the top, and running August von P. for crowd control, all for a boss-killer fleet. For some reason when both BZ and G had their salvoes loaded, Georgia fired first.

[eternal moth]

Georgia only has 2 main gun mounts, so she's natively going to be faster

[sullen dew]

Huh.

[night marsh]

hello, is next event have no limited ship banner? all i saw on news is skin showcase

[eternal moth]

There isn't an event starting after maintenance

We're still in the current event for another week.

[sullen dew]

I believe they're just adding more outfits for this patch.

[eternal moth]

Do they have the same gun?

[night marsh]

i see thx

[eternal moth]

And is either one of the BBs using a radar/admiralty table?

[sullen dew]

No. These are their respective main guns I'm having them use

[robust onyx]

Georgia gun is faster

[eternal moth]

... Look at the speed difference. The first one is absolute trash BTW

[sharp socket]

oh dear i think some fleetbuilding help is needed here

[robust onyx]

Agreed

[sullen dew]

Guess I need to reallocate some of my BB main guns

[eternal moth]

The right one isn't TERRIBLE, but it's not great either. You really want champagne gun, this one.

With that on both ships Bis would fire first every time.

Assuming they're both fully enhanced, that is.

[barren tapir]

avp shouldnt be in a bb fleet either

[sullen dew]

I find her slow-down ability useful for lining up a massive volley from my BB's

[eternal moth]

Bismarck should be doing just fine on her own

Bisco gathers them all up and the other 2 fire right after

But you only want to be doing this in OpSi/META fights, not campaign

[sullen dew]

Fair enough. Perhaps 2 crowd-control ships is a little bit... unneccessary.

[frank pulsar]

can zwei suck enemies that are stopped

[sullen dew]

Yep. If they're in range of the... "whirlpool"(?) effect

[eternal moth]

Also, if anyone wants it, I managed to one-fleet harbiter. I don't know how difficult this month's was

Although it did require the use of subs

[frank pulsar]

not too difficult imho
i managed to get my first one fleet this month
no subs

[eternal moth]

CV or BB?

[sullen dew]

What other BB's are good for single-target elimination?

[eternal moth]

Rainbows

[barren tapir]

agreed i managed to get my first harby kill, 2.5 fleets with multiple low lvls

[eternal moth]

Except Warspite

[frank pulsar]

fraudspite

[hollow gust]

Eagle fleet can do like 80+ bars of light in oneshot without subs lul

[eternal moth]

What, Kear/YT2/Enty?

I'd like to see the plane loadout for that

[hollow gust]

No with nahk ofc

[humble summit]

hi so do i retro fushun

[eternal moth]

OK, then what's the setup, because I didn't do that much with those 3

[storm heron]

is this month's harby that hard?

[hollow gust]

Voroshilov Aurora Helena

[eternal moth]

Apparently not

[hollow gust]

I did enough damage to kill her the same strike as the jellyfish

[eternal moth]

Oh, you're using Helena. ok.

[hollow gust]

Helena less I still do 65% +

[humble summit]

theysay open 15 for the limited skin, how do i get it ( red envolope)

[eternal moth]

Do the events.

[humble summit]

i opened 15

[storm heron]

ask fu po, fu shun, and an shan in their minigames for that

[barren tapir]

an shan, fu shun, fu po events

[eternal moth]

Did you get coins? If so you already had the skin

[storm heron]

just look at your fu shun

[humble summit]

ok mb guys i think i paniced when i got random stuff

[barren tapir]

the skin is so cute

[humble summit]

agree

[storm heron]

disagree

[barren tapir]

bro bas 0 taste

[humble summit]

so the other minigames comes after maint?

[storm heron]

other 6 after maint

[stark quiver]

how much more rld do i get on fritz, from 124 to 125

[humble summit]

okok

[storm heron]

1 rld iirc wait nvm

[stark quiver]

cool

[eternal moth]

They're already in the current event

[humble summit]

im confused

[storm heron]

there's like no difference

oh level 123 is -1 rld

level 124 is 0 rld

[humble summit]

i dont see anymore events that i can do

[eternal moth]

Fu Shun, right is An Shan, Fu Po I don't see but you should have gotten her for logging in the first day of the current event

[humble summit]

oh ya i completed

now i need 6 more packets from next maint

[eternal moth]

Spring Fireworks comes after maint, yes

[stark quiver]

bruh my fleet only does 52 bars one strike

[humble summit]

only

.-

._.

[cunning bison]

how long will maint last

[eternal moth]

8 hours. You can always check #game-news for patch notes, which include that info

Blucher's event is rerunning after this one's over right?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[eternal moth]

Looks like it's going to be a full 20 days before I finish series 6 training then

[cunning bison]

it says short one

[whole crypt]

what training

[eternal moth]

series 6 PR missions

[cunning bison]

"short operational pause"

[cunning bison]

???

[whole crypt]

you're basically going to be timegated by HM every year

[wind hazel]

it's a figure of speech, not meant to be taken as "short 6hr maintenance"

[hollow gust]

Helenaless Eagle fleet still does 60+

[storm heron]

bro's powerleveling yorktown

[storm heron]

is 6 really short?
like you even take 8 to sleep like everyday

[eternal moth]

Must be nice, being able to sleep for 8 hours

[stark quiver]

sleeping 8 hours

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

what a wonderful world

[stark quiver]

im using soym,fritz, nakh

[barren tapir]

random question - has anyone compared akashi spawn rates in explorable/secured zones vs hidden zones? i might be tripping or just memory bias but i really feel like akashi spawns more often in hidden zones?

the compiled rate for c1 is about 5% spawn rate, and i would ballpark my hidden akashis at around 10% ish instead

[eternal moth]

Maybe I need to change Sirius for Aurora, I only did 45 bars

[barren tapir]

yes use me

[storm heron]

[bright tusk]

Is there any web/link for blue to purple gear that is good for newbie?

[barren tapir]

-20% evarate is pretty fucking big

[hollow gust]

[stark quiver]

only 45 tho?
not enough xfleet?

[storm heron]

why the wotspite

[stark quiver]

cuz with eagle fleet, u should be doing big damage

[barren tapir]

probably bc he wasnt using aurora to begin with

[stark quiver]

ima change z52 to helena and see how it goes

[storm heron]

not like you did

[barren tapir]

temperance has 94 eva and 45 lck, i figure evarate reduction will do big good here

[hollow gust]

Helena Aurora Kazagumo sounds sqishy asf

[barren tapir]

the worst case of 80% to 100% is still +25% damage, and your backline at base probably is much lower than that

[stark quiver]

thats exactly what im running rn goose

[eternal moth]

Why would you run Kaza with Kear?

[hollow gust]

im not???

[barren tapir]

that's alphas fleet i thought

[hollow gust]

i told u my frontline already

[barren tapir]

too many convo threads

[stark quiver]

hm
what am embarassment, helena kaza aurora only did 62 bars

[storm heron]

:hamaalfused:

[hollow gust]

almost like paper dps is overhyped as fk

[barren tapir]

6 hours out of 168 in a week is indeed a short pause

[stark quiver]

idek what paper dps means bro

[eternal moth]

I need an Eagle frontline that isn't Helena for that fleet. Who best, Balti?

[storm heron]

6 is short compared to the 8 we get

[hollow gust]

oh wait balti is also a thing

[barren tapir]

another thought: maybe for hiddens, akashi spawn rate is correlated with corrosion level. c5/c6 seem to have her very often

[hollow gust]

just use voroshilov

and run aurora helena

[barren tapir]

3 c5/c6 had akashi in a row now

[hollow gust]

or u can run Guam/Laffey/Elridge Tashkent Aurora

[eternal moth]

Helena's in my BB fleet though.

[stark quiver]

agir,52,ply

[barren tapir]

well to minmax a single fleet you'd need to adjust things...

[storm heron]

might as well 2 fleet at this point

[wind hazel]

bb fleet 1shot temperance too...

[eternal moth]

Eh, I guess I can try it. Not like I need the damage anywhere else

[stark quiver]

welp, helena in my fleet made absolute 0 difference
it will still a 3 strike smh

[barren tapir]

luck better

[storm heron]

suchi also 3 strike dw about it

[barren tapir]

just get lucky

[wind hazel]

just get the positive 50% 4Head

[hollow gust]

You not only need helena , but still need to critfish and win 50% . Its laughable

[barren tapir]

bb can definitely 1fleet, idk about 1shot

[stark quiver]

well it cant

[wind hazel]

1shot=/= 1strike

[barren tapir]

i meant 1 strike

[stark quiver]

yee and it cant one strike

[wind hazel]

well i didnt mean 1 strike

[barren tapir]

yeah i know u meant 1shot as in 1 fleet

[storm heron]

even the november harby can be 1 striked, this harby looks so strong

[wind hazel]

[barren tapir]

and if you didnt then idfk what you meant so i hope you meant that

bc i also dont think a single bb shot kills it

[wind hazel]

because fybre said 2 fleet

[barren tapir]

i see

[stark quiver]

just git gud

[barren tapir]

fuck this confusing terminology

[wind hazel]

reading is hard

[barren tapir]

it is, we are EN

[stark quiver]

goose, did you 2 or 3 strike

[eternal moth]

damn, even with helena still only 70 bars

[hollow gust]

2 with helena, 3 without

[wind hazel]

have you tried z52

[hollow gust]

u cant?

[stark quiver]

you broke the jellyfish and killed the last 20 bars as well?

[hollow gust]

yeah

[eternal moth]

Yeah, second airstrike killed it.

[stark quiver]

wtf

[wind hazel]

oh you're using helena as 3rd uss

[stark quiver]

my 2nd aurstrike doesnt do that

[storm heron]

bro's using np

[hollow gust]

caus it doesnt do enough damage, you need spare output

[eternal moth]

I DO have all +13 planes, so if you don't have that you're going to do less damage

[wind hazel]

got indep crossfleet? might help

[storm heron]

nj crossfleet?

[stark quiver]

i have every crossfleet

[wind hazel]

skill issue

[hollow gust]

Oh wait i didnt use NJ

[eternal moth]

Yeah, I didn't either. Hmm.

[hollow gust]

Either way BBs are CVs crossfleet btch

And soyuz nahk fritz comp is a bit overhyped

[stark quiver]

This is how the average run goes

ffs i have the same result with z52

[hollow gust]

wait does all the airstikes fit into helena timin

[stark quiver]

idk

pretty sure yea

half avi and 1/3 hit tech

[hollow gust]

well thats alot

wait what comp you running?

[stark quiver]

wrong link
i just happen to have the ships leveled

https://mrlar.dev/s/5a49e82e539c4a27abdf4c8f1a8f6116707f78d3

[storm heron]

not the inverse torp

[stark quiver]

dont mind vg gear

[storm heron]

I can't even attempt the harby

I don't have enough coins to upgrade 4 hvars

[eternal moth]

Do you have BF-109s?

[storm heron]

I have 2 of them +13 I think, the rest is +10

[stark quiver]

just do it lol

[wind hazel]

why breguet

[stark quiver]

i have no clue
i might make a spearfish with my last 10 ords

nope, spearfish messes up sync big time

[wary robin]

How can i farm cogni chips?

[eternal moth]

Chain run 12-1 or 12-4

[zenith heron]

Just 2 Boss Fleet it, no harm done, unless this is "Stronk Player" Territory

[eternal moth]

The latter is what's going on right now

[stark quiver]

im a casual

anyways, ima change autoloader to shell and pray it syncs

[keen sable]

meta sync?

[plain saffron]

Spam 12-1

[keen sable]

13-1

[stone sluice]

I have coins but only 3 hvars

[keen sable]

||14-1||

[tender girder]

I whaled and bought PR1 and PR4 for izumo and anchorage.. lol.
now regretting whether i should have gone for PR3 and PR4 for parseval & cheshire instead or not haha.

[stark quiver]

shouldnt have bought anything, theyre grindable ships and easily grindable at that

[keen sable]

izumo sus

[eternal moth]

Ancho was the correct call if you were going to do any of it, but Izumo is sus

Although I guess if you start the game with her she's pretty good.

[tender girder]

haha. yeah. i was getting annoyed of using penny and I wanted to prioritize working on Enterprise & Sandy... rather than Enterprise and Hood

though i guess i'll never know who would show up in the medal shop next month

[eternal moth]

I just hope I get DD on my alt again. Although with my luck it won't be for months

[sleek bolt]

hey guys, what best dps fleet?
to kill medium heavy cruiser (Chien wu)
i got all ship except unzen
Im expecting all BB AP boss fleet or CV Bf109-g fleet

[stark quiver]

somethin like
alsace,soyuz,vanguard

[eternal moth]

Not bisco?

[hollow gust]

CVs do much better

[barren tapir]

izumo probably one of the best picks from that tho...free decent quality gold bb, 0 bulins etc

[sweet delta]

is there datamine

[barren tapir]

all she needs is augment and shes pretty great, especially for a new player

[hollow gust]

You can pull a Sakura Comp or Nahk Soyuz fritz

[eternal moth]

Amagi CV/Shinano/Imp/tank/Kaza/Helena

[eternal moth]

I don't think there's anything TO datamine is there? Just new skins and the addition of Oceana

[spring bolt]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1025512171680825351?spm_id_from=444.41.0.0

[eternal moth]

Oh right, Bolzano. Forgot about that.

[barren tapir]

so is oceana just for secretary after TB raising or

[eternal moth]

Yep

[tender girder]

yeah my other option with a decent BB is duke of york?... and it'll probably take another month of saving merits till i get him..

[eternal moth]

Project TB 2.0 essentially

[barren tapir]

might actually do it then cos she's cute

[sweet delta]

nice, +10% eva when solo vanguard

[stone sluice]

Soyuz, Fritz, nakhimov comp

[eternal moth]

Should be +FP tech too

[upbeat wagon]

Is 18 sec musashi, 21 sec unicorn and 25 sec saratoga good timing for mobbing

[cursive saffron]

Will rental skin disappear after the maintenance?

[eternal moth]

Timing doesn't matter for mobbing; you generally want them desynched anyways

[spring bolt]

which chapter?

[upbeat wagon]

11

[spring bolt]

mob timing for ch 11 is whatever... just use the best you have and you will be fine

and tbh musa with no gun will easily crush ch 11 mobs easily, as long as you have enough skill and ship level

[slate blade]

Honestly none chapter requires synco for mobs. 14 chapter mobs may be an exception, but I doubt even that

[stark quiver]

if u sync stuff in w14 mob, youll die

[spring bolt]

later chapters if you sync attacks with mob spawn, it makes you life easier, definitely not syncing with other ships or skills like boss fights, and that would require much more dedicated fleet building

[slate blade]

Nah, I don't think I should say this. When will we get the datamine?

[upbeat wagon]

Should i increase musashi's lvl cap to 125, i only have 600 of the blue chips

I mean ill probably use her a lot right?

[molten zinc]

Best BB for late game campaign, so yes

[wind hazel]

you mean Musashi's level

[spring bolt]

125 is ship level, skill level caps at 10 but anyway, yes, musa 125 totally worths it

[upbeat wagon]

Right

[spring bolt]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1025512171680825351?spm_id_from=444.41.0.0
or scroll up a little bit
not much to see anyway

[sweet delta]

yeah i got the same numbers for hinden gun as Mr. 🧊
博尔扎诺·META DMG: 59308/46308/39494 DPS: 672/524/447
Slot 1 Unzen Gun does 14 in 86.70s 41041/29315/20520 2931/2094/1466 473/338/237 70.5/64.5/52.9%
博尔扎诺·META DMG: 50819/49545/45865 DPS: 576/561/519
Slot 1 Drake Gun does 13 in 82.70s 32552/32552/26891 2504/2504/2069 394/394/325 68.4/70.2/62.6%
博尔扎诺·META DMG: 44025/53357/44732 DPS: 499/604/507
Slot 1 Hindenburg Gun does 14 in 83.84s 25758/36364/25758 1840/2597/1840 307/434/307 61.6/71.8/60.6%

[shell willow]

what tech is bolzen

[spring bolt]

fp+1, ca

[sweet delta]

but 40 lower dps

[slate blade]

Not this one, but thanks

[fickle hollow]

thoughts on this build, Shinano

[slate blade]

Just no

[stark quiver]

absolute shit

[reef flume]

You have purple helldivers?

[sweet delta]

34 likes must mean it's good, right?

[slate blade]

No

[fickle hollow]

yep my shinano is properly built i just saw this with 34 likes and got curious

[wind hazel]

yeaaaaaaaah rightttttt

[reef flume]

Replace the gold ones with the purple helldivers

[slate blade]

Someone's trolling. I hope they're trolling and this is not an actual build

[boreal wagon]

the loadouts shared ingame are more often than not ass

[reef flume]

Ryuusei is good but you'd want a parallel torp bomber if you are planning to use her in campaign

[spring bolt]

pro escort mission player

[stark quiver]

34 poor souls

[fickle hollow]

[sweet delta]

whats bolzano meta ehp

[boreal wagon]

at least a number that can be expressed as a percentage

[slow fox]

Is she up!?!

Skill tl smh

[sweet delta]

her chinese datamine is up, but her ehp is down low probably

when she's not solo vanguard, all she has is a 10% zombie heal and some area slashes

and -8% damage taken in opsi boss

[plain saffron]

No datamine from en team because i forgot to fix the tool

[clever lance]

PvE, PvP fleet help and some gear advice spread in

[sweet delta]

abouts 87% ehp

[blissful hamlet]

Anything new on this maint other than the skin?

[sweet delta]

#game-news

[warm trail]

what do u get for clearing past events in the war archive?

[quartz jungle]

The story for the event gets unlocked + ship/gear for clearing D3 60 times

[peak moat]

You can farm the drops on the maps, and you get the ship on the event after a certain amount of clears if it doesn’t drop

[warm trail]

any in those worth clearing?

specifically which ones

[slate blade]

Only if you don't have girls, which you can get on dis maps

[crisp estuary]

I used to farm gold steamcatapult from war archive

[steel lava]

Who's worth getting in the Medal Shop?

[barren tapir]

what is your options

[steel lava]

I forgot to take a screenshot ;-;

[barren tapir]

well good ship is like hood, enterprise, kazagumo, sandy, sirius, u96

[slate blade]

Eldridge and wait for her retro item

[barren tapir]

eldridge is merit shop

[wind hazel]

it's more or less the same ones anyway

BB Hood, Tirpitz, or any other faction tech you need
CV Enterprise, tech
CA tech
CL Sirius, SanDiego, tech
DD Kazagumo, tech
SS lol

[barren tapir]

[slate blade]

Ouch

[steel lava]

Is Taihou u good?

[wind hazel]

no

good armpit though, can flaunt in pvp def fleet 👍🏼

[plain saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LcDGBIP30PySuAcQZ1gvl9RNRi_wmoVXQOGq9QCRVaE/edit#gid=0

[vale spindle]

added to pins

[bold stream]

Hello all. Who is the best lv 70 no limit break main fleet? Ranger? Or maybe yorktown since she got that zombie skill?

[plain saffron]

Depends on which stage

Actually nvm, ranger

I don't want to know what cursed thing you're doing

[bold stream]

I am farming sakura map ships rn for the tech..

I will farm foxes, maya, yuudachi and others if possible

[plain saffron]

Ranger ddg probably works

[tender girder]

as a newbie with around 200 cubes at the moment.
if implacable comes in Feb, should i pull for her? or save?

my current party
BB : penny, izumo
CV : ark royal, sartago
CVL : unicorn
DD : Z23, Kazagumo
CA : Anchorage, Portland
CL : Helena

[sharp socket]

we have no idea if implac is coming in feb or not

[tender girder]

oh, i thought that was the predicted rerun

[peak moat]

I would lean to it being a new UR event since we just had a ur rerun

[tender girder]

yay. fun then

[barren tapir]

implac is likely rerun after feb UR

[peak moat]

Ye

[tender girder]

If new UR = good, pull new UR
if new UR = bad, should i pull implac?

[fair lance]

After feb new UR when's the next new UR expected to be?

[crimson glacier]

may

[dense briar]

Once the medal shops reset, will it have the option to exchange for SR ships again? Or nah?

[fair lance]

Yeah that resets

[dense briar]

Good thing i saved my medals

[carmine heath]

I think you get ~50 cubes a week minimum so yeah just pull for the ur

[blissful hamlet]

Speculation

[carmine heath]

Chances are you wont have to pity anyway so more cubes for next next ur event

[tender girder]

i see. nice!

[sharp socket]

implac is next in line to rerun and they usually do reruns in between new URs

[tender girder]

i guess the game devs make money from this game, NOT from pulls.. but from skins (which are wildly expensive)

[carmine heath]

Welcome to azur lane where clothing your ships is more expensive than getting your ships

[grizzled sundial]

But the jiggling !

[zenith heron]

Does Implacable's Fairey Plane have use? Other than some niche timing?

[blissful hamlet]

Speculation

[primal silo]

Yea
where else are they gonna get money?

[cobalt rapids]

outside the niche timing ( which is usually 4 striking in metas ) no

[zenith heron]

Rarely at merch

[carmine heath]

Pay more for less clothing

• azur lane and actual clothing brands for some reason

[blissful hamlet]

Best for ark royal meta since she requires HMS plane and her DB slot are shits

[tender girder]

i doubt the merch make them much money.

[zenith heron]

But its not safe to delete?

[blissful hamlet]

It's unique gear only available on limited event

[barren tapir]

also most mmorpgs

[cobalt rapids]

why would u want to delete it tho
its limited and even tho its niche it still has a use

[zenith heron]

Sad that its actually good for Ark Royal, won't use her though, I guess stay in storage it will

[zenith heron]

Just sayin, considering some event limited ones especially Auxies really take up space...

Like that memphis Auxi one...

[cobalt rapids]

well yea but u can just use ur ships for deposit

equipped equipment doesnt count towards depot limit

[carmine heath]

This feels like cursed information

[cobalt rapids]

[sharp socket]

wdym

just store equipment you want to keep/dont use on ships

[barren tapir]

200 ship = 1000 depot slot

[sharp socket]

i do it for the ships i cant/wont scrap, like metas, research, collab, tech ships that arent 120

[tropic tusk]

how many books do u need per skill to make them lvl 10

[tropic tusk]

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[plain saffron]

sup

[whole crypt]

jp up

[barren tapir]

[late flame]

speedrun neet siren ending letsgo

it may or may not be the fastest way to see if one can equip the paid skin, considering she only needs 20 weeks compared to TB's 48 weeks

[boreal wagon]

u unlock the skin after the tutorial
(or rather the ability to buy it)

[cobalt rapids]

lightbulb simulator

[whole crypt]

you don't need to finish to use skin

[late flame]

oh nice

[boreal wagon]

the patch notes even mentioned that

[whole crypt]

same for TB anyway

it's just you don't get the full set unlocked

[late flame]

TB mafia boss skin when

[plain saffron]

6 or 8?

[boreal wagon]

maint is 8 hours if thats ur question

[left cedar]

Nagami thinking that GPH can read hidden info, so GPH is reaching into collective mind

[fickle hollow]

60$ in nikke

[carmine heath]

are there any estimates on amagi rerun?

[molten zinc]

November 2026

[zenith heron]

How many ships are currently in Azur Lane overall? Excluding the Collab Ships?...

[inland shoal]

Estimates for reruns are always roughly 2 year

[plain saffron]

thanks

[inland shoal]

The wiki page on Ships should tell you iirc

Also thanks for alerting me that that page has an issue

[eternal basalt]

"0 of which can be retrofitted"

[cunning bison]

jp people hv any of ya all found special interactions in l2d skins

[forest palm]

ask #al-general

[cunning bison]

kk

[cunning bone]

WRONG GAME

[wanton dawn]

can i ask if there is a point in doing meta stuff? the meta ships generally dont seem to be that gd and it doesnt give anhy gd rewards right?

[wary skiff]

Well it will atleast give you mats and skillbooks. Some metas are better than the original like jintsuu iirc.

[cobalt rapids]

also they are limited and will take a while to archive and take minimal effort to do
if dossier then not rly, unless ure farming for tech

[dreamy blade]

a lot of them have really good tech too

[lyric bison]

Is it better to just farm the current event for xp or just finish 10 to start 11-1

[dreamy blade]

just do 15+5 runs of hard a day then go back to pushing campaign

[lyric bison]

Got it thx slinger

[wary skiff]

This counts towards ship yard? The dossier grind?

[cobalt rapids]

no because theres no meta ship girl in shipyard

and meta is their own faction

[wary skiff]

Ah I misread the tech mention and yea Ik they’re diff factions

[cobalt rapids]

tech meaning the bonus stats at collection and 120 here

[wary skiff]

Ahh

[wanton dawn]

okok ty guys:)

[wary skiff]

Is there any note somewhere what rigging should be prioritized? For giulio i remember it was fp and rld and i felt i bricked her by getting like 40 reload instead of throwing it into fp

[cobalt rapids]

you cannot brick meta fortifications
they are static

and they use different materials for each stat

[wary skiff]

Yea, so I couldn’t get like 100 FP instead of 60 FP and 40 RLD as an example?

[cobalt rapids]

cannot

[wary skiff]

Ok that’s good to know ty

[inland shoal]

The only issue that you could have is spending too many mats on a ship you don't use and then having kothing left for the ship you do

[wary skiff]

Ya I full sent on the giulio one and she was like my second level 100 and got replaced quickly

I was so new I ran her without her skills for like a solid 90% time I used her

[deep storm]

I fell asleep this week. What's being updated in this maintenance?

[wind hazel]

skins, bolzano meta soonTM, Oceana

[deep storm]

Cool. Weird it's happening mid-event (the CNY event is still happening right?)

[wind hazel]

pretty normal

[whole crypt]

precisely because it's CNY, probably going 2 straight weeks no maint from here

[storm peak]

Open?

[forest palm]

someone lost the keys

[nimble knoll]

Is it still not open?

[wind hazel]

apologem soon

[storm peak]

Still not open

[nimble knoll]

Smh

[plain saffron]

dead gaem

[nimble knoll]

[plain saffron]

it's up btw

[nimble knoll]

Finally

[forest palm]

looks like someone found the keys

[wind hazel]

already out of date

[nimble knoll]

Really.. Another 233 MB.. Smh

[plain saffron]

that's why i only download when it's up

[left cedar]

them how u know that are up ...
Nagami is a dev plotwist

[plain saffron]

shh

[forest palm]

clearly the update was just the access key so people could log in

[nimble knoll]

Should I take out my mail coins?

[forest palm]

if you need it

[static storm]

When you need it I guess

[forest palm]

it gets stored in a bank either way

[plucky basin]

Should i use her?

[nimble knoll]

Is 3*'ing 1-2hm and 2-2hm a good thing to get purples for Portland? Cuz I'm missing a lot of purples

[forest palm]

certainly could do that, not that hard especially since you can kind of cheat the system

[nimble knoll]

Are ya talking to me? (And wdym cheat the system?)

[tame jungle]

the attempt is only counted if you beat the boss, so you can get the other stars for 3* by killing mobs then exiting out

[forest palm]

and repeating the process

[nimble knoll]

Yeh, I'm doing that, I'm only using 1 battle, then just keep killing the escorts and leave and repeat

[tame jungle]

good!

[forest palm]

still wish they'd bring back 6x HM runs

[tame jungle]

i need more core data!!!

[nimble knoll]

Is saratoga good? I got her from completing a Battle-

[forest palm]

post retro ya she's good

[nimble knoll]

Owh

[nimble knoll]

But before retro, she's mid?